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Hello, this is BBC News with Lukwesa Burak.

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We'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment.

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First, the headlines: President Trump celebrates

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the signing of $350 billion worth of contracts between the US

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and Saudi Arabia, on day one of his visit to the region.

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Jeremy Corbyn insists his party is committed to Trident,

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after members of the Shadow Cabinet publicly disagree over the issue.

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The Tories defend their aim to cut net migration

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to "tens of thousands", after it comes under fire from

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Iran's newly re-elected president, Hassan Rouhani, says

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he will use his second term to reach out to the world and work

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The wedding has taken place of Pippa Middleton, the sister

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Prince George was one of the page boys, while his sister

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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are Nigel Nelson, Political Editor of the Sunday

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And the political commentator Jo Phillips.

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Very good evening to both of you. Really looking forward to our chat.

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First of all, tomorrow's front pages. Starting with the Telegraph,

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I believe. Theresa May writes in

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the the Sunday Telegraph that she'll tell Brussels that "money paid

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in the past" by the UK must be taken into account

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in the final divorce bill. The Sunday Times reports a Tory

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wobble in the opinion polls, as cuts for elderly people slash

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Theresa May's lead. It puts the Tories on 44%,

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with Labour on 35%. The Observer reports that

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Theresa May's school meals plan "to hit 900,000 poor children",

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and there are concerns it could "The Dementia Tax Backlash"

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is the Mail on Sunday's headline, as the paper reports a Survation

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poll suggesting the Tories' lead has slipped by 5% after its pledge

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to make elederly people pay for care - but they're still

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12% ahead of Labour. Mummy Kate takes charge

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on Pippa's big day", the picture headline

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on the Sunday Express, is about Duchess of

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Cambridge's sister's wedding. It is a lovely picture. We will come

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to that later. Let's begin. Nigel and Jo, who is going to lead? Ladies

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first! That Sarries we do Pugh! I'm going to get into trouble! I will

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just sit back and! The Sunday Telegraph, as you were referring to

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just now, this is an interview with Theresa May. And I have to say, they

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have picked two bits that don't make it look like a very interesting

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interview. The headline is it lose your gong if you dishonour it, says

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PM. This is to raise a promising to crack down on people who have got

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honours like knighthoods and what have you -- Theresa May. The way it

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works at the moment is that if somebody is disgraced, I'm thinking

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of Fred Goodwin, from the Royal Bank of Scotland, or Anthony Blunt,

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people like that, it's all done behind closed doors. She wants a

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more transparent process where people can be stripped of their

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honours if they fall below the expected standard. I have to say, I

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can't imagine that this is right at the forefront of people's minds as

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we go into an election. Or what it means. If you strip someone of their

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honour, does it matter if it is behind closed doors were out in the

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open? Frankly, a lot of people are honoured, political stooges. There

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are other problems as we head into the election. That, which is Brexit,

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is at the bottom of the page in a very small story. Theresa May is

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saying that money paid in the past must be taken into consideration.

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She talks about the European investment bank and the investment

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fund. It wouldn't make me rush out and buy a paper! No, it's very dull!

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Moving on... Good blogger at! I've got the interesting story! It is

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still Theresa May. But a very different angle. This is the front

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page of The Times. Yes, indeed. The Sunday Times have a poll taken since

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the Tory manifesto came out. What they are saying is that there is

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now, this is sort of War Ball weekend for the Tories. On the poll,

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the Tories are now on 44%, Labour on 35 -- a wobble weekend for the

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Tories. Eight just so Mike -- just a 9-point lead for the Tories. The

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Conservatives are down from an 18 point lead in just one week. It is

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all down to what came out through the manifesto. It is all down to the

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dementia tax, to taking away winter fuel allowance. When it comes to,

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it's interesting, it was during the manifesto launched watch Theresa

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May. She is so confident of winning this election, she felt she could do

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something that was bound to lose her votes. And her biggest vote is in

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the over-65s age group. They are the ones who go out and vote. She was

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hoping to pick up the under 35 is by doing it on the basis that they tend

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to go Labour. I wonder if the under 35s now they have realised they are

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about to lose their inheritance if there are more dad gets ill and

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stays at home, whether this is actually going to backfire? Make

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them more engaged into the conversation as well. One would hope

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so. Jeremy Corbyn is popular with young people, it will be interesting

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to see how many of them actually turn out to vote. I mean, the poll,

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as Nigel says, puts Labour at its highest standing since the last

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general election. But it won't do the Tories any harm to have a wobble

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like this. It will make them think. The terrible thing is, actually, and

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as we go onto the next paper, which is exactly the big story of last was

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the social care and the Inheritance Tax. If you are going to look at

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trying to do something to solve the into generational difference where

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you've got young people, they are either riddled with student debt or

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they can't get on the housing ladder, and you've got wealthy,

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older people living in houses that are too big and getting all sorts of

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benefits. You've got a pension age raised, but that's not commencing

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with the aid that many people get benefits like free bus passes and

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stuff like that. -- the age that many it is bonkers and you have to

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tackle it somehow. But however you tackle it you will get a backlash.

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What it does do, and one of the figure the Sunday Times quotes is it

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would mean that Theresa May would have a majority of 46. Only one week

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ago we were looking at the three figure majority. You might have

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been! Polls were looking at a three figure majority. The more that comes

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down, it is better for the governance of Britain. A cake. It

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doesn't much in any other parties, interestingly. Yes, it does. Let's

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turn to the Mail. It is the dementia tax backlash is the headline. Again,

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carrying on with this. We have got the elderly, dementia, do you want

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to pick this up? It's very interesting, because this actually,

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the Mail and the Express are almost interchangeable. I find it rather

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offensive, actually, to call it a dementia tax. But, you know, this is

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the idea that people who need social care in their own homes who

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currently have to pay if they've got savings or income assets of over

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?24,000. This is now going to quadruple under the Tory manifesto

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plan, but it also takes into account the value of your house. But it is

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capped at ?100,000, that is the lowest level. That is the floor. It

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is a floor rather than a cap. But of course what that means is that

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people will still have to sell their property in order to pay for their

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care. That ties in very nicely to the front of the Express. The front

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page really, it is just headlined at the very top, it is a front page

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that we will becoming too. The headline we will be talking about

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here is Labour's death tax bombshell. Interestingly, I was

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listening to Radio 4 on my drive to work. It was Any Answers. Some of

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the feedback that was coming from the Tory manifesto, in particular

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things like, you know, losing some of the benefits, they were saying,

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it is the embarrassment of having to go through a lot of these. You know,

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the means testing. It is undignified, yes. Yes, and

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dignified, and talking to the young and a lot of parents now saying, you

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know, go out and build up the debt. Their fathers were saying, I know

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this sounds terrible to be telling them this, but what's the point of

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saving? It's all going to be stripped away from you. There is a

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lot of backlash. As you were saying, the potential to lose a lot of their

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core voters over this issue. That is why it is such an interesting thing

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to do. We don't have the details and we don't actually know who these

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various things are going to hit. But when... Sorry, are we doing the

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Express? We are just finishing off the Express. The interesting thing

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about this, this is an interview with Philip Hammond. He is attacking

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them the other way. He's going for the death tax, which is Labour's

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plans to halve the out of Inheritance Tax exemption from more

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than ?800,000, ?850,000, to ?425,000. He says that homes owned

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by people who've worked hard all of their lives, they've saved and

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struggled, put something by, they are going to be punished by this

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tax. Well, actually you could make exactly the same argument for the

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dementia tax that you don't like to call it. People will lose their

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homes if they have to go in... If they are to stay at home and receive

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nonresidential care, in the same way that they would under Labour. It is

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a curious argument. It is also about the skewed property market, that is

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part of the problem. There is a point that outside of the bubble of

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London, you know, where house prices are absolutely ridiculous, you would

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end up with about 60% of houses in London being, you know, within the

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bracket. But that wouldn't necessarily be the same outside. But

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the tax on both from either side or exactly the same. Let's move on

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quickly to Mr Trump in Saudi Arabia. Back to the Sunday Telegraph, going

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back to the first page. And what is Trump telling the Saudis? What have

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you made of the pictures, the pomp, the ceremony was blocked by our

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terribly pleased to have him! I expect they are secretly hoping that

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Barack Obama is watching and thinking, well, they didn't do that

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for me! It does put those of us who are older to remember but people

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will know about it anyway, the Shah of Iran, who did the fantastic party

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in the desert with peacocks and palm trees. Donald Trump would have liked

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that! Exactly, but it was the beginning of his end, actually, that

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great grandiose waste of money. I'm not saying it is the end of the

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Saudis, that is a different thing. Donald Trump is probably very glad

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to be away from home. Although the shadows will cast further... They

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are saying there is a lot of concern, isn't there, that he had

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derided, make disparaging comments about Islam. They are now saying,

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you know what, for the case of expediency we are going to have to

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work with him anyway. And a lot of people also saying they are tapping

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into his love of the larger life. One of the things that he will have

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to do tomorrow when he makes his speech is somehow got back it has

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got to be a really skilful speech. What he's got to do is to obviously

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move the Muslims in Saudi Arabia, get them onside as far as -- woo by

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Muslims. He has to explain why he tried to ban them from America in

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the first play. It is a tricky speech, that one. He's going to have

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to be a politician, isn't he? Smart I wonder who is going to write it

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for him?! We have to squeeze the next two in. The Chibok girls are

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reunited with their parents. This story has been running all day. It

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is astonishing that these girls, who were kidnapped three years ago, some

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have been returned. And this is the next 82 children. They were reunited

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with their families, who have travelled the days. They had to go

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to Abuja, didn't they? To go and meet them. You would have a heart of

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stone not to be moved by this. It would be very interesting, what a

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nerve kept them going, the hope that they would finally be reunited. --

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what an earth kept them going. Obviously they are very emotional.

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There are still 100 girls with Boko Haram at the moment. What it does

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show is deals can be done. They swapped five militants for the

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girls. One would hope the other goals will come out as well. There

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has been much learned about the deals. The Sunday Express. I think

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this is the picture, isn't it? I love this picture. This did make me

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smile. Nigel, your softer side! Oh, yes, my softer side! How long have

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you got?! I thought the papers rather over did the wedding. Don't

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be ridiculous! It was a lovely wedding but it seemed a bit

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overdone. For the Sunday Express! They have got page after page... It

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is a nice picture. There was a lot of trouble getting pictures today

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for the journalists. Coming back with things like this, they are

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lovely, I agree. I think this is a smashing thing. Anyone who has had

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to look after small children at a wedding or a party or a day out, you

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know that thing of turning round to them and saying, shhh. It is lovely

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to see her performing the role of sister, the roles are reversed. It

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is wonderful. Anyway, Nigel and Jo, we will leave it there for now. But

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you are coming back at just gone 11:30pm. For now, that is it from

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the papers.

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