04/06/2017 The Papers

Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

With me are the political commentator, James Millar

and Jo Phillips, who's also a political commentator.

Of course, there is only one story we will be looking at.

a counter-terrorism chief refuses to confirm whether the attackers

were were already known to the police or intelligence services.

The FT focuses on Theresa May's plans to review existing police

and security powers, increase pressure on tech companies

and introduce tougher anti-terror laws.

The Telegraph claims counter-terrorism officers have been

monitoring an alleged extremist cell in Barking since March and secretly

recorded individuals plotting a van and knife attack in London.

Quoting Mrs May's phrase that "Enough is Enough",

the Express vows to support the Prime Minister's plans

for what it calls "tougher action on terrorists".

The Mail also leads with that quote from Mrs May, adding that

all of Britain was echoing her sentiments.

The Mirror leads with the heroes of last night.

It said policeman and members of the public fought off

the attackers with batons, chairs, glasses and their bare hands.

Police fired an "unprecedented" 50 bullets at the attackers to bring

them down within eight minutes, the Metro says.

And the i calls the police and public response "defiant"

It has been an incredibly fraught and a difficult 24 hours for a lot

of people but the response from the public and police has been hailed by

so many people. The Guardian leads with the numbers- seven dead. And

Mrs May saying, "Enough is enough" "Enough is enough". Despite what has

been happening in the last few months, it is a very unusual sight

for us to see armed officers on our streets. Coming here tonight, there

were police officers all over the place. I came over Westminster

Bridge. Police vans. London Bridge still cordoned off. And to see

police officers dressed like this is an alarming as well as reassuring

but the question is, you cannot have that all the time. You can do it for

a little while. After Manchester, it ramped up, and after Westminster and

obviously people can put measures in place for security around buildings

but we do not have enough people to do this at this level and we would

not want to at all. The Guardian talks about how the investigation is

focusing on whether these three men shot dead, what kind of support they

may have had? That is the thing that is becoming unfortunately familiar,

investigators rushing to find out if they were part of a network,

mounting multiple raids and arresting lots of people. That is

the initial reaction and over the next few days we will find out

whether there is network. There has not been in the last few incident

and we do not know what has happened with the arrests from the last

incident. Women taken from a block of flats, a man Tasered. Three women

led away from the same flat, noting there are women involved because

invariably people involved in these things are men. "Enough is enough"

declares it made. What can that mean? There have been moves in the

past to strengthen laws and surveyed its opportunities but there is

always some bush back against that. The FT says that this is a rhetoric.

Beyond that, what will it mean, we will have to find out that as well.

Mrs May says she was a deciding about the Internet. She persuaded

the G7 leaders to dedicate a new tool to clean up the web which

sounds good but I do not know what that means also longer jail

sentences for terrorist attacks but there is no worse place to put these

people. It is very difficult for any politician to tread the line. If you

say "Enough is enough" and we have to be less tolerant because we have

been too tolerant, where does that take you? It is difficult for

Theresa May, Jeremy Corbyn, for anybody as to how to make people

feel safe and the question raised about people who claim to have

reported incidents and suspicions. By the nature of reporting, they

will not get a knock on the door the next day saying thank you very much.

This is about surveillance. It is control orders. Where that they

should come back to replace what we have now. What do you do and at what

point do the security services strike to prevent these? They have a

ready prevented several planned attacks before this. You do wonder

if in the light of Manchester, police were jetting out a lot of

people they had been checking out before and whether they were on that

and possibly push them into doing something we will have to wait and

see. The Daily Mail, the picture is not easy to make out there are men

on the ground, wearing their fake suicide vests which, of course, if

you are confronting these people you do not know whether they are of real

or not. Of course, and you are in a crowded area were people are already

injured and dying and they did what they did and they did it very

quickly. James and I were talking about the rightness, if you like, of

publishing photographs like this. I am concerned about this. What

concerns it you? Am concerned because you begin to make this

people into something they are not, they get notoriety. The comparison

with high school shootings in America. Eventually the press

realise, if you put these people in the front page someone at home will

look and see that someone got the front page because they did

something terrible and they think I will do something terrible. Just

reported straight and the incidence fell off a bit. I concerned that

somebody else will see this, they will see someone achieving

something. I would rather see it pictures of the victims, the concert

in Manchester. The Metro has the same picture, even close-up, saying

police fired 50 bullets which is unprecedented. As you said just now,

if you see free people and you believe they are wearing suicide

vests, and you have a split second, you have to make sure... I do think

there are questions about how papers, in particular, cover this.

The rolling news channel is different but even then we have to

pause and think. This picture gave me pause. I did not feel comfortable

with this picture with it being used. The Metro, a free paper, on

trains and buses were schoolchildren are travelling. Of course, he cannot

keep children away from the horrors but you need to see that have the

lawyer we stick... Part of it is because of citizen journalism. We

were trying to work out whether this is an agency professional

photographer but, of course, there are agencies who will market members

of the public photographs. We are not saying these are the baddies

here and it is OK to have a discussion about why it has

happened. We do similar things with suicide to try and avoid copycat

behaviour. I think something like this is something the newspapers

that need to think about. There will be copycat attacks after this.

Immense guidelines about the nature of pictures that we run, how much

detail and how close you get. On the Daily Star they have gone with the

kind of thing viewable comfortable with. He rose and journalists and

taxidrivers featured. -- heroes, and the incredible emergency services

who responded so quickly and how the public turned against these men

despite a risk to themselves. Just as you cannot understand the people

who do this, but the people who run towards the. The British transport

policeman who got stabbed in the face taking them with passion.

Dippel throwing chairs and pint glasses, anything. And you have the

paramedics and ambulance crews who have nothing to protect themselves

with and yet they parlayed and do their job and it is utterly

remarkable. -- they pile in. And the Journal is becoming a celebrity...

Absolutely. This is the photograph of the reality. The speed with which

everybody is so quick to complain about delays in traffic or whether

you are waiting in a queue, my son is a paramedic in London so I

slightly by S. But you see this, it is really quick and fast and you

have these people in the restaurants, waiters and waitresses,

suddenly this horrific event on Saturday night and people come

together instinctively, which I think is quite encouraging.

Incredibly moving as well. In the Daily Telegraph, the picture of the

armed officers out on the street. Apparently, there has been a secret

recording of some cell in Barking, where the raids had taken place

today, where an attack like this seemed to have been devised. But we

do not know. Exactly, it goes back to this question of surveillance and

intelligence. We do not know what has been going on, how long it has

been operational. I think they have said since March, earlier this year

but, apparently, there is a group of people talking about this, using

YouTube... I sure not YouTube but YouTube videos and it goes back to

the question of what is available on the net and how do you control it.

Internet companies like Facebook and Google, are they taking it

seriously... How can YouTube make a decision on

every single video that gets uploaded? Millions are uploaded

every single day. I am not making excuses for them at all, it is the

sheer scale of it. You cannot legislate it because they will be

some other way to find it. Exactly. The Internet is such an incredible

concept. You cannot stop it. It is there now. You cannot roll it back.

The Daily Express quoting the reason may. Enough is enough. -- Theresa

May. They say they have repeatedly called for tougher action on

terrorism. What does that mean? Until someone has committed a crime,

what do you do? That is the biggest worry about this kind of stuff. It

is fine saying enough is enough, but what can you do? There are people in

a bunker in Whitehall that know what to do. But I am not sure what you

can do against a van and a knife. It is not like putting together the

components for a bomb. Exactly. It is not like the thing we're used to,

tight security like airports, airlines and airports can bring in a

ban on laptops, liquids, whatever. These are people on a street going

around restaurants and things on a Saturday night. Drawing attention to

this. Three men walking casually through Borough Market before they

were shot dead. It may have been even before they carried it out. It

may have been after they got out of the van and move across off of the

bridge. It talks about what needs to happen in this tougher action. The

Prevent strategy has been criticised for a long time. They need tothe

radicalisation of people. One of the complaints was many people, many

Muslims, felt there entire communities were being stigmatised

by it. This is the problem. Again, it goes back to saying if you phone

up and say I think this person is a bit dodgy, why, because he has a

beard, he is wearing a grey suit. You think they are dodgy because

little girls wear headscarves? It is delicate, this line we are treading.

You cannot attack a whole community. Now, we have heard, and I am sure,

again, today and tomorrow, we will hear condemnation from the wider

Muslim community, as they have been since Westminster. These people

doing these things actually don't belong in communities because they

are... Communities, they are in communities of her own monstrous

imagination. They are horrible, horrible people who watch

monstrosities, whether it is Islamic State videos, or whatever... There

were some Muslims on social media saying a true Muslim would be busy

eating late at night during Ramadan because they have been fasting all

day. That is what a true Muslim would be doing. The final paper, the

i, defiant. Armed officers coming down escalators. It talks about the

number of people killed and injured. Defiant is a good word. In America,

they said London was reeling from it. I hate to refer to social media,

but there have been many people getting uptight about the use of the

word "reeling." It is not wrong to say we are reeling from Manchester

because it was horrible. It is fine when something is that horrible.

Isn't it about wanting to say that for ourselves? Yeah. Yeah. We can

say that. It is about owning the word, isn't it? But you wouldn't ask

any of those to keep to one side. They are being defiant. I like to

think that is the British way. Stand to the right. Stand to be left. They

also have a small photograph for Manchester as well. May be later

additions will have something. We will see you again for the unusually

late repeat at half past midnight. I hope you will join us... Well, I

hope you will stay. I hope you will join us as well.

The Prime Minister has said last night's attack isn't directly linked