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That's all the sport for now. Now, The Papers.

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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are the Sunday Times' Foreign Editor, Peter Conradi,

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Tomorrow's front pages: The Observer says May's Premiership is in Peril.

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The paper leads with its editorial comment saying

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Mrs May is discredited, humiliated, and diminished.

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It says she is now weak, with rivals and opponents

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The Daily Mail focusses on the Foreign Secretary Boris

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Johnson saying he is set to launch a bid to become Prime Minister.

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It also carries a picture of former Top Gear presenter Richard Hammond,

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who was involved in a car crash during filming in Switzerland.

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The Telegraph says Theresa May may be in Downing Street

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but she has no power after losing her

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The paper says senior Tories are jostling in an unofficial

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The Sunday Times claims as many as five Cabinet ministers are urging

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The Express leads with the resignation of Theresa May's

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two closest advisers, Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill.

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Its headline refers to them as 'toxic'.

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Lets kick-off, Peter. Have the Observer - Theresa May's premiership

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in peril. Threat of MP rebellion blocks DUP coalition. This has been

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overtaken since it went to press, because this is based on the idea

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that there was definitely going to be a deal between the Tories and the

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DUP. Subsequently, despite the Government announcing that the

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yesterday evening, we had the announcement from both sides that

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there isn't a deal yet. One presumes there will be won, but it just shows

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just how nobody really knows what is going on at the moment. It looks

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like there will be a deal, doesn't it? It does. Ironically, Theresa May

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was accusing labour beforehand of having a coalition of chaos, because

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that is the impression she is creating, last night announcing a

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deal that had not been finalised. That is chaotic. There are voices

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within the Tory Party who are very unhappy about this potential deal

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because of some of the DUP's believes. They are opposed to gay

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marriage, opposed to abortion. Nicky Morgan, who was the Education

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Secretary, says we do not want the price of a deal with the DUP to

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water down our equality policy. It is a strong issue. The Tories have

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spent years detoxifying the brand. If they make concessions on those

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social issues, and Ruth Davidson has spoken about it as well, it will

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hasten her inevitable demise. The other headline in the Observer is:

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Drop hard Brexit plans, demand MPs. How will this chaos avec Brexit?

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Does it increased the likelihood, in your view, and from Europe's point

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of view, maybe, base of the Brexit? It might. A lot

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of people... The was that she would be in the pocket of the hard Brexit

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supporters in her party. Now she doesn't have a majority, she has to

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look more widely, to Labour and the Lib Dems, perhaps, and that could

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have the effect of softening Brexit. You have to bear in mind, the DUP

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don't want a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic,

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an important issue for them, so she has to bear that in mind. The

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Scottish Conservatives, the same. It could lead to a softer Brexit,

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certainly. Lets look, James, at the Sunday Telegraph. In office, but not

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in power. Fragile leadership. Peter mentioned the Scottish Conservatives

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under Ruth Davidson, and she has obviously talked about an open

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Brexit, hasn't she? Which is code for staying in the single market, I

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believe. She is in a powerful position, having run an excellent

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campaign, in contrast Mrs May's, and she has made this coded reference to

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softening Brexit, and she has also made a coded reference to not making

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an alliance with DUP. She is an out lesbian who is engaged to her

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partner. If there is any suggestion that the Tories would alter their

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policy on gay marriage, that is a deal-breaker. And she has 13 Tory

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MPs in Scotland, very surprisingly successful there. If Ruth Davidson

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withdrew their support, she is toast. To quote someone else this

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morning, she is a dead woman walking. That would be strange - you

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might get the ten DUP but then lose the 13 Scottish Conservatives. We

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are going to unknown territory, aren't we? We certainly are! It will

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keep us all very busy. Let's focus on another relevant yesterday, which

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was that Theresa May's two toxic aides, as the Sunday express calls

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them, have resigned, Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill. All the papers have

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carried this analysis, that she had a very close clique going in Downing

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Street and a centralised way of working. All prime ministers do, but

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she seems to have taken it to a further level, really, and I think

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the role of the advisers has been interesting. It has been something

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that has been known to political insiders for a long time, and I

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think gradually, in the last few weeks in the run-up to the election,

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it has emerged quite a powerful role the two of them have played. In the

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newspapers, Nick Timothy has been transformed from this sort of very

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smart, on this year, brilliant Guru into failure and the man behind the

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defeat. They were the people who pushed her to have the election in

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the first place. Also, Nick Timothy was behind the so-called dementia

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tax, putting that into the manifesto at the last moment without

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consultation with the Cabinet. I think he is now denying that. Years.

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According to one of the papers, there is a suggestion that Philip

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Hammond made that a condition of staying, saying, this is a red line.

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These to my car to go. The former director of communications at number

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ten yesterday said there was a toxic atmosphere there, and she accused

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them of being brutal, which I think is code for something more harsh,

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and that they were being extremely rude to elected cabinet ministers

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when they had never stood for election for these positions. And I

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think that is a legitimate concern, that you have unelected officials

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wielding too much power, and I think that is giving her -- given her

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breathing space of a couple of days. Gavin Barwell, who was a minister,

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lost his seat on Thursday and is popular. Even though he was wet, he

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is popular, which means that he can speak human, unlike Mrs May, and he

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can speak to people, which is a great criticism of her. One person

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they were allegedly route it was the Chancellor, Philip Hammond, and he

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seems to have emerged empowered from all of this. He may push for a

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softer Brexit. Precisely. That was the expectation in the past few

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weeks, that he would be toast after the election, the way that Theresa

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May would not confirm that he would be there as Chancellor. He is

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probably quite a happy man at the moment. Let's look at Boris and what

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all this means for him. We have the Mail on Sunday saying, Boris is set

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to launch bid to be Prime Minister as May clings on. This morning, he

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has put out that this is tripe. The more he says that, the more

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convinced I am that he will run. It is like when Michael Heseltine said

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he could not foresee circumstances where he would stand against Mrs

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Thatcher and then the next week he did. There is also, apparently, an

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anyone but Boris campaign going on. There is a sense that he is flaky

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and unreliable, those things that Michael Gove, as he flagrantly

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stabbed him in the front and back last year... And the site! And the

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head and everything, he said he was not reliable. Those allegations will

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resurface. Certain allegations from the past will come back towards him,

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I think, and I think there will be a really tight campaign if it is him

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against David Davis. Apparently, Amber Rudd's majority was too slim,

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only 300 or so, so she is out of the running. I would not say that Boris

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is on the way to coronation, it is not a done deal because there are

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people in the party who do not trust them. The Conservative Party is

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thinking, we need a leader for the future who can take on Jeremy

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Corbyn, who did surprisingly well. It is a matter of when they get rid

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of her, really, rather than whether they will. But also, who replaces

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her. Yes, but also the question of how this plays out in the country.

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No one wants another election. If you get a new leader in, and they

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don't have an election, again, they might feel they don't have a

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mandate. Let's look at the Sunday Mirror. They are talking about

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Jeremy Corbyn - 13 million voted for us, we'll push all the way. He still

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believes he could be Prime Minister, theoretically at least. I want to

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eat my hat like Paddy Ashdown here, because I had been on this programme

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many times in the past few years saying I thought he was rubbish, a

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disaster for the Labour Party and democracy because he had no hope of

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cutting through, and I hereby apologise to him because he has done

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brilliantly. I have three daughters, the eldest two of which voted this

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time, both students, and they have been part of an incredible movement,

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and their friends have mobilised in a way they never did in the Brexit

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vote, where only 40% of young people voted. This time, up to 70% of young

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people voted, and that is because he offered them hope. Young people

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particularly are hard-wired for hope, and that is what the offer

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than what Theresa May signally failed to do. Young people voting

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must be a good thing for a democracy. Indeed. If you look at

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how the share of the vote has gone up, or the proportion voting has

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gone up since 2010, it is extraordinary. It must largely be

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the result of the Brexit referendum. A lot of them not bothering to vote

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then and then seeing what happens... It was billed as the revenge of the

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young. Precisely, I think so. It also shows you can get quite a lot

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of votes by promising to drop tuition fees and pay back those that

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have... And also, a good social media campaign. Absolutely. And some

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brilliant memes, if that is the right word. They did lots of jokey

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things. To go back to the young people, last year, my middle

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daughter was abroad in Vietnam, but she made a postal vote, and when she

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did, she said to us, I feel like older people have stolen my future.

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Young people are saying, we didn't vote last time, we have to make our

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voices heard, and now they have, and good on them, because Theresa May

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was offering a Project Via, a cavalcade of despair, and that did

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not resonate with people -- Project Fear. A quick look at the Sunday

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Times front page. We have already talked about it, but five Cabinet

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ministers urging Boris to double Theresa May. We do not know who they

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are. Boris, Boris, Boris and Boris! He is wearing a rather flamboyant

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coat, isn't he? It is maybe a sort of LGBT coat, with those colours,

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isn't it? He is perhaps appealing for the Liberal Conservative vote

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there, but I do think there will be huge civil war going on. The phone

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lines will be red-hot, like that time when Michael Portillo set up a

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campaign headquarters, installed lots of phones, that sort of thing.

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The Tory Party are very good at being ruthless when they think their

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leader is a dead duck, and Theresa May is, and she won't be allowed by

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the Tory Party to stand at another election, so there will be blood on

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the carpet, the walls, the ceiling, everywhere. I think we've got the

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idea! Amazingly, just over a week ago, we had the London Bridge

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attack. Such a strange election, with the two terror attacks.

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Hospitals and GP surgeries are told that, for the first time, they could

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be targeted by terrorists. It is appalling. It sounds outlandish and

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horrific, but it is based on guidance being issued by the police

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to NHS officials, warning of this worst-case scenario where this might

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happen. We have had examples in other countries, such as

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Afghanistan, where there had been raids on hospitals. In Afghanistan,

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they killed 50 people, and the terrorists were dressed as doctors.

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That was how they sneaked into the hospital. That is an appalling

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scenario. It is good that hospitals are being warned, but you wonder

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about the depths to which they will sink. Geoff Ho of the Sunday express

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was caught up in the attacks and has written about his experience. People

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were concerned about him on social media, because he was known to have

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been drinking in the area, as a lot of people work, so lots of concerns

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about whether he was safe. He was a real hero, and it's an incredible

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story. Inside the Sunday express, a huge spread, really. People are

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always fascinated to read the eyewitness account of somebody who

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showed such incredible bravery. He fought back and thank God, he

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survived. He is an example of what we all hoped we would do, but when

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confronted, we very well may not. We may have run, in his situation, but

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he had the courage to confront the terrorists, take them on, and

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possibly his actions spared other people from being killed. There is a

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good line in his first person piece: This is not how the night should

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have ended for anyone. It is not how nights in Borough N. London is one

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of the friendliest places in the world. I think that is a positive

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message. -- it is not how one night out in Borough end. I think defiance

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is the best response to terrorism. There was a taxi driver who tried to

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run them down. It hit particularly close to home for us, because we

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were there. One of my colleagues almost got run over by the ban. He

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left the office, came out, and the van swerved, which is how we were

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alerted to what was going on. -- almost got run over by the van.

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Imagine the greater carnage that could have been caused if they had

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gotten hold of a lorry. Thank you both for being with us. That is it.

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Just a reminder, we take a look at tomorrow's front pages every

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