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live in a tolerant, liberal society. And that is why I have chosen to | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
step down as leader of the Liberal Democrats. The resignation statement | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
of Tim Farron from being leader of the Liberal Democrats. Now, I look | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
at the papers. Hello and welcome to our look ahead | :00:00. | :00:21. | |
to what the the papers will be With me are the writer | :00:22. | :00:24. | |
and broadcaster Mihir Bose and the former Pensions minister, | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
Baroness Altmann. We start with the only story on | :00:29. | :00:29. | |
tomorrow's pages. the Telegraph carries a haunting | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
photograph of the throwing their children out | :00:34. | :00:36. | |
of windows to save as avoidable, saying that residents | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
had repeatedly raised The Metro warns that dozens | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
of people are feared dead. The Guardian focuses on the warnings | :00:45. | :00:58. | |
from residents who it says were ignored. The Times reports the blaze | :00:59. | :01:04. | |
spread in a mere 15 minutes. And the Mirror carries a photograph of the | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
burning building with a single word, death trap. So, let's begin, this is | :01:08. | :01:15. | |
a deeply deeply distressing story and it is rightly on the front of | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
all of the papers. Shall we start all of the papers. Shall we start | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
with the times with this horribly violent image, disaster in 15 | :01:23. | :01:28. | |
minutes. What does it concentrate on? You have also got that inset | :01:29. | :01:34. | |
picture of one of the residents waving help from the window. This is | :01:35. | :01:40. | |
such a tragedy, you cannot help but feel for the victims, their | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
families, their friends, to have been involved in this must have been | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
just absolutely horrendous. Children being thrown from the buildings and | :01:49. | :01:54. | |
one of them was caught, one was thrown from the ninth or tenth | :01:55. | :01:57. | |
floor, others jumped, we do not know whether they survived, it is | :01:58. | :02:03. | |
something that you see in a movie. The towering Inferno or whatever. | :02:04. | :02:05. | |
But this has happened in London. And But this has happened in London. And | :02:06. | :02:11. | |
they were told to stay put. They were told to stay within an hour | :02:12. | :02:15. | |
they would be rescued, though given the wrong advice. Whether it could | :02:16. | :02:22. | |
have been avoided, the safety measures but the actual advice to | :02:23. | :02:27. | |
stay stay put and someone defied that advice and saved himself and | :02:28. | :02:36. | |
his family. The stay put policy it was called. Stay put and dive. They | :02:37. | :02:42. | |
were told it was designed to have rigorous fire safety standards and | :02:43. | :02:47. | |
you would believe that. That is the advice given and you think they know | :02:48. | :02:51. | |
what they are talking about. And we tend to obey rules. And the fire | :02:52. | :02:58. | |
doors was poster last 30 minutes to give them time to arrive. It simply | :02:59. | :03:08. | |
wasn't correct advice. The Guardian again the story dominates its front | :03:09. | :03:13. | |
page with that... And the Guardian has a fair bit on the warnings that | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
were given not just about staying put but warnings going back several | :03:18. | :03:24. | |
years and there was an action group that said last November about this | :03:25. | :03:35. | |
catastrophic event will highlight the incompetence of the landlord. | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
These warnings were ignored. And serious questions need to be raised | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
about what sort of management was there and who ignore these warnings. | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
They raised the points that we would probably immediately think of, there | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
was no sprinkler system, where was the building white fire alarm, there | :03:57. | :03:59. | |
was only one fire escape for the whole floor trying to come in | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
residents trying to go out which is why they had to stay put policy so | :04:05. | :04:10. | |
firemen could get in but then also apparently there were some gas pipes | :04:11. | :04:18. | |
in the escape, in emergency exit. And they're worried about that too. | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
And the fire regulations have not been reviewed for 11 years. What | :04:23. | :04:29. | |
this raises questions is what are the fire safety in the buildings, | :04:30. | :04:32. | |
God forbid anything should happen but we need to ask those questions | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
immediately. This fire spread so quickly, let's not forget, 15 | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
minutes, that is not a lot of time. The government says a major review | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
will happen looking at other buildings. The Telegraph, making the | :04:46. | :04:51. | |
point as he said disaster waiting to happen. And the cladding. It says | :04:52. | :04:59. | |
cladding was putting for energy efficiency reasons and the cladding | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
acted like a chimney, there is a gap between the cladding and the walls | :05:04. | :05:05. | |
and that allowed the smoke and fire and that allowed the smoke and fire | :05:06. | :05:12. | |
to spread upwards. And away the cladding was done. It should have | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
protected but it was a conduit for the fire to spread so quickly. For a | :05:18. | :05:24. | |
fighter damage in 15 minutes, something must've happened which | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
quite dreadful. And the London Fire Brigade warned after a fire in a | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
block in Hammersmith last August about the cladding and there was a | :05:33. | :05:37. | |
fire in a skyscraper in Dubai said the fire brigade was all ready | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
concerned about this and all one can say is the government has now said | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
it will urgently review the safety. This is the sort of story that comes | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
out from countries where things are not managed properly, where there is | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
proper control, not a country like ours where we take safety very | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
seriously. Controlled regulation should be looked at. And there are | :06:01. | :06:06. | |
regulations, one thing is fire safety regulations only apply to the | :06:07. | :06:08. | |
common parts not individual flats con they do need to look at that but | :06:09. | :06:12. | |
this is a bigger issue and lessons have to be learnt. I'm sure whoever | :06:13. | :06:17. | |
was involved in the cladding had no idea that there would be a fire risk | :06:18. | :06:21. | |
otherwise it would not have happened. No one would do that if | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
they thought it was. We do not know, it maybe it is not the cladding, | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
maybe something to do with gas pipes, we just don't know. But if | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
residents were warning we need to know what was done and whether they | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
were ignored and said these residents are always going to raise | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
questions needn't bother about it. And they were assured it met the | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
fire safety standards. A quick word, one more story that otherwise would | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
be on the lead story on the front pages in the Financial Times, Tim | :06:52. | :07:00. | |
Farron quits as the Lib Dems. I was quite surprised. Especially the | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
reason he gave, I think his assistant Lord Patrick had resigned | :07:06. | :07:11. | |
citing the issue of Tim Farron's Christian faith and the implications | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
for his belief in gay marriage and Tim Farron has taken what I think | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
you can only describe it as a principled position and said if my | :07:22. | :07:25. | |
faith is getting in a way of me being a political leader then I will | :07:26. | :07:32. | |
choose my face but it is really sad and I would not normally think that | :07:33. | :07:36. | |
we are the kind of country that would not be tolerant of somebody's | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
faith. You cannot be the leader of a political party, that is what he is | :07:41. | :07:46. | |
saying. It is unbelievable. It was an issue in the early stages of the | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
election campaign and he could not get over that. Otherwise the Lib | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
Dems would have done better because they were the representatives of the | :07:57. | :08:02. | |
remainders. We'll be back together at 11:30pm to discuss at greater | :08:03. | :08:10. | |
length. That is it for the papers. We are back at 11:30pm. See them. -- | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
see you | :08:16. | :08:17. |