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make sure that they stay safe and that is happening, right now. Much

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more run a story at 11pm. Now it is time for The Papers.

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What matter I will get to what The Papers will be bringing us tomorrow.

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We're joined by the writer and broadcaster Caroline Foster and the

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jealous, Tony McCoy. The first of our headlines... The Daily Telegraph

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quotes the council leader in the borough, saying that Grenfell

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changes everything. The developments in Camden came too late for the

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daily Mirror. The express labels critics of Theresa May as EU

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bullies, as the Prime Minister announces details of the offer to EU

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nationals after Brexit. According to The Times, the Manchester suicide

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bomber used videos from YouTube and other websites to help build a

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device that killed 22 people. And the Daily Mail serialises the

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biography of the Duchess of Cambridge. A couple of the papers

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are managing to report what happened in Camden tonight, only a couple of

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them because the news broke so late. We will start with the I. Urgent

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safety work needed at high rise after buildings fail safety checks.

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Even this front page was put together in a rush. Absolutely,

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covering breaking news. Deciding to evacuate a block on a Friday

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evening. They are talking about putting people up on a leisure

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centre and speaking about finding hotel rooms in the middle of high

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season in London for 800 households. My first reaction is, I think this

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is a mistake. If I was the council I would say to people, there is a very

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small risk that the fire is going to break out in this block and that the

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cladding might catch fire and then we might have a repeat of what

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happened in Grenfell. I would have offered a people asked for temporary

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accommodation but as we heard from bag lady who lives in one of the

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blocks, we're talking about people being out of their homes for four

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weeks. I'm not sure that the council has thought this through. How big is

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this risk? If I lived in a tower block I would feel the concern that

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lady expressed and I can understand the Council offering that do that

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people who requested it by saying that the block is unsafe and we have

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to move people into a leisure centre seems like a slight overreaction and

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it is going to put pressure on other councils across the country, to see

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whether or not they are going to react in the same way. It is

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difficult when you're in the council's position. What decision

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you make? I don't think this decision will have been taken,

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likely. You could tell from the body language of the council leader. I am

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sure that this was done with a very heavy heart. Whilst the might be a

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small chance, even this remotest chance of a repeat of those scenes

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we saw last week is something that no council can be seen to let

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through. People'svoices have got more powerful in the wake of the

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tragic circumstances that Grenfell Tower. Can you imagine the outcry if

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any council sat on any fire safety warning or they did nothing they

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delayed? It be unthinkable. As you said, Tony, some people have said I

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am not worried about it, I am not going anywhere. Two things. It will

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be interesting to see what the Fire Service said. I suspect that they

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have not ordered an evacuation and this is a political decision. They

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did express concerns. They expressed concerns about the safety of the

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building, well, maybe I am wrong about this. Perhaps what council

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leader should have been doing for the last six or seven years is

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upgrading facilities in council blocks that they control, perhaps

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putting sprinklers in, perhaps putting proper fire alarms in before

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this accident. This, to me, smacks of a panic, knee jerk reaction

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because Camden and other councils have bigger questions to answer,

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than just the cladding outside these buildings. The daily Mirror looking

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at the story, as well, in a connected way, but taking it back to

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what happened in Grenfell, Cilliers in our kitchens. The Grenfell fire

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started by a fridge freezer that had not been recalled. Concerns for lots

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of people about how safe the appliances are. The blame game has

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moved around as lessons are being learned. We have seen lessons about

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the cladding being learned at great speed by councils and authorities.

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They have moved to the fridge freezer. 64,000 of these products

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have been sold throughout the UK. That will not just the people in

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tower blocks but all sorts of consumers, and they have been

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invited to get in touch with the company. Presumably this is one step

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short of recalling the product. We will find out that there are other

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councils facing the same criticisms, so it will go on. We don't want to

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balance safety problems with widespread panic. This particular

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appliance has a plastic backing to it. That is correct. Not a huge

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amount of detail in the front page but it seems to be saying that this

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specific appliance when manufactured in the US has a metal back and in

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the UK, it has a plastic back that can go up in 90 seconds whereas the

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metal one stops are far from happening. This is a slightly

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ignored issue that we have had some concerns about white goods. There

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was a series of tumble drier fires in London that were raised in

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Parliament. There has been some concern around white goods and

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fires. That will come into sharp focus because of what happened at

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Grenfell. This conversation around cladding we were not having a couple

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of weeks ago has become a major issue of national importance. The

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Telegraph looking at the risk to hospitals, feared to be at risk,

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public buildings will have to be tested, again, following what

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happened in Grenfell. The scale of the checks that is going to be

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carried out in public buildings is enormous. This is not just

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hospitals, it is also schools. All of us have seen the way in which

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1960s buildings have been spruced up by sticking some cladding on the

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front of them. That was a popular method of making these buildings

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look more modern, but there are hundreds of them all over the

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country. We haven't even considered private tower blocks. Obviously,

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hospitals, schools, universities, will become a focus. The Department

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of Health says it is working with the building research Establishment.

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They are having a busy week doing the testing on the cladding. And an

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obstruction has gone out to hospitals, who did the contracting,

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what sort of cladding was use? -- and instruction. So this is going to

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take time. This is the trickle-down effect. In the wake of last week's

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tragedy, one of the immediate criticisms was that many of these

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regulations were too complex to be interpreted by standard local

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authorities. Clearly, what we should remember is that this cladding and

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these buildings have been in existence for half a decade and this

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was a tragedy that stood alone, so we had that people are seen this

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with perspective but on the ban, these are tests that should not have

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been happening in this knee jerk speed, this haste to move things to

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the top of the pile, that should have been going on much more

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regularly. Let's move on to the express, shall we? Theresa May

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stands up to EU bullies. I would say that, watching the spectacle of

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Theresa May in Europe is relatively speaking what she does better. We

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know that she has had a terrible two weeks since the election. I would

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think she may be relieved to go behind closed doors into boardrooms

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with lots of paper and policy to munch through and, frankly, anything

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she says, at least she's not going to have the PR disasters that she

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had when meeting the electorate and being asked to respond to tragedies.

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How Clay is it, the direction we're going in? It is as clear as mud.

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That is probably not how I would have interpreted what is going on,

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the way the Express has. Theresa May has gone to the European Council,

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meeting of the heads of government, a regular meeting and they have lots

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of things to discuss, by the way. Brexit is not top of the agenda for

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the other 27 nations. They have many issues to deal with. I can

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understand the sense of frustration from them. What Britain wants is not

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clear to our European allies and friends. This process has been

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delayed by a leadership election last year, Theresa May chose to

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delay it by two months by having an election in which she thought she

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would win a majority for what is called Bohar Brexit. She completely

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lost her majority and has no mandate for her hard Brexit or any part of

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the EU negotiation strategy and the reality of a hung Parliament means

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that a very small part, pro-European Tories in her own party will be able

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to scupper significant parts of a plan as it goes through. She has

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arrived in Europe, she's been humiliated by the British

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electorate, she still does not have a plan and the plan she does have is

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likely to be voted down by Herrerin party. So if you are a European

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leader you are not sure whether, what she wants whether she will be

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able to deliver any of it. Negotiations that everyone involved

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with will have two compromise, over something. This comes after a

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concession about EU national staying in this country. Saying that she is

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standing up to bullies, is she walking in back was come on the back

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foot? There was going to be much budging. There has already been

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fudging and U-turns on the manifesto before the election, there was a

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U-turn, so he can expect some more before the signature is dry. We will

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be here in two years, talking about this. It is a marathon, not a

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sprint. Let's go to The Mail. Glasto's Labour Love In. Ed Balls

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has been spotted in the bathroom queue with his towel. Tom Watson is

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there, he seems to be a regular. I've seen them there in the past.

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They are getting hot under the collar because Jeremy Corbyn is due

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to address the crowd and the BBC has been accused of bias because this is

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happening. It is a televised event and they are televising it. The BBC

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did not book Jeremy Corbyn to appear on the premise stage. But they have

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a duty to televise -- on the Pyramid Stage. A BBC youth reporter, someone

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who may or may not have voted for Jeremy Corbyn was quoted as saying,

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"Brilliant". They are supposed to be generating enthusiasm for an event

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that they are televising. Abe supposed to stand back and say that

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other MPs' speeches are available? My view is that the BBC should not

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be showing this. It would not be particularly difficult for the BBC

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to cut away. They massively open themselves to accusations of bias

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for the left. I do think that this is an explicit political act that

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has been done to put the Leader of the Opposition on the main stage.

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That is politics and not music and the BBC needs to be clearer about

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where that line falls. If it was me I would not go anywhere near

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broadcasting it. Theresa May is not going to be there, that is the

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point, there is clearly biased side. What if the Prime Minister turns up

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at Glyndebourne and makes a speech? I think he's hijacking this event.

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But he was invited. Whoever invited him is hijacking the event to make a

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political point. A bit of a different light tonight. I am so

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sorry. It is because of the News events and what is happening at

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Camden. Caroline and Tony will be staying and will be back in the next

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hour. Join us again at 11pm for more news.

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