09/07/2017 The Papers


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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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Are they talking to the writer and broadcaster, Shyama Perera, and the

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political commentator, said Moss. First, let's take a quick look at

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what is making the front pages. The Observer tells us that German

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industry is warning the UK it cannot rely on its help in securing a good

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Brexit deal. The Sunday People has an exclusive -

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it's talked to Lord Dannatt about caring for veterans

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with post-traumatic stress disorder. Back to Brexit, and the Telegraph

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says Theresa May is trying to capitalise on Donald Trump's

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optimism on trade - amid growing The Mail On Sunday is told

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by Conservative MP Andrew Mitchell that he thinks it's time for Mrs May

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to step aside because she has The Sunday Express leads

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with Mr Trump's comments that the UK will thrive outside the EU,

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and his promise to sign a "powerful" The Times says Mrs May claimed that

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Mr Trump's comments had put her plan The Independent reports that hate

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crimes have risen by 23% since the Brexit vote,

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according to figures they've obtained from a freedom

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of information request. And the Mirror says that the singer

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and actress Linda Nolan, who is suffering from cancer, has

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been targeted by an online troll. Shyama, let's go to the Sunday

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Times. The Times is picking up the story that we've been getting

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variations for the last 24 hours. The fact that Donald Trump, I write

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novels times, and there is a thing called the Bad Sex Awards, which is

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for the bad sex scenes. This is like the Bad Politics Awards, because

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this is going to happen "Very, very quickly" it's going to be "Very,

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very big". This is Donald Trump talking after his conversation with

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Theresa May about the fact that the US is going to offer us some great

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trade deal. Again, the language isn't very hopeful because we've

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heard this language around a lots of things. I just wonder, you know,

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Vincent, you can answer this better, but it says, "Trump throws Made a

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lifeline". We need a lifeboat, and I'm not sure he's got one. The thing

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about these trade deals as they are slow-moving things. He talks about

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doing one soon - that is not practically possible, is it? No, it

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can't happen. We have two exit Brexit. It is at least two years

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away. Traditionally these things take years to negotiate. It's all

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very well talking about these deals. The best divisive leaders facing

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domestic problems, and they both want to talk about something else -

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like trade. In reality, it's years away. And they're both, of course,

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very mean with detail. You never get any idea. It's always an abstract

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conversation, whether it is May or Trump. ... The Sunday Telegraph, --

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the Sunday Telegraph," Brexit plays Trump card". This appears more than

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one Sunday newspaper. It is pretty much the same lines talking about

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the G20. It's the same sort of language about Trump, saying that it

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would be a powerful deal done very quickly, which of course it won't.

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One than the Telegraph does pick up if it makes the point that it sees

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what Theresa May has said as what it calls a dismissal of Philip Hammond,

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the Chancellor. He of course famously said that not remaining as

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close as possible to the EU would be madness will stop Theresa May have

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been talking about not just deals with the United States, but India,

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China and Japan. There is precious little evidence that any of these

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round the corner either, but it's very much the view that Theresa May

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wants to come out of the G20. Shyama, back to your point, we've

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got Trump quoted quite extensively on the front page of the Daily Mail.

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But then he also says, we have all of our trade people. We have Trade

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Minister Wilbur Ross with us. We have all of the trade people! The

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phrase is rained down. I think trade will be a very big factor between

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our countries. Seriously? Honestly, it could be written by an

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autonomous. It's meaningless. Let's go on to something which could be

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far from meaningless. This is the front page of the Observer. Just

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tell us what the story says. The story is that the Observer has

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spoken to two of Germany's biggest industry group. Does it say who?

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Yes, it does. There is BDL, the Federation of German industries, --

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BDA. So they are trade groups, not companies? Yes. They're pointing out

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that all of this talk of us somehow finding accommodation between the

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two groups in terms of trade, and the example given is cars, because

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we are the biggest importers of German cars, what they are saying is

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that actually we have to put the EU first and we can't be giving you any

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kind of special deal on this. Maybe it's an obvious thing to say, but

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it's a quite serious point. It is. This is a united message from

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Germany which is that they think the single market is crucial. The single

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market for them and the other remaining nations is much more

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important. So Britain's business may suffer. I think the Observer was

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just trying to find a different story from that which we saw on

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television all day yesterday about the G20. It has gone on this

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different morning of German industry warning. -- gone on this different

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glory of German industry warning. Germany's priority is to protect the

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single market. It is a big warning to British business, if you hire

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Brexit, you will face problems. One thing we overlook sometimes is that

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a lot of German imports are at the luxury end of the markets. The

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electronics, white goods, cars, and all of those. Which, anyway, salty

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people who can probably pay the difference if prices go up. --

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which, anywhere, or sold to people. I don't think German industry is

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that worried white yeah. OK, sticking -- also on the Observer

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front page, the business about Trump and climate change. The Paris

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Crewman was going to be a big issue, but he stuck to his guns. In many

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ways, it's not news. The Observer has always been very big, as an

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issue. It points out that the summit isolates Trump over climate change

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and quotes Theresa May as being dismayed at the US decision to pull

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out. Although she has been asked why she failed to raise it during a

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formal 50 minute meeting with him. She says she's had a number of

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conversations with him in Hamburg and Lavrov with him. President Trump

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doesn't seem to care, and I thought that was indicated because although

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they were wearing special lapel badges, he wore his US one. It was

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very much the summit of the G19 + Trump. Leaving aside this business

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about the climate change, really all politicians go to these summits.

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They talk a lot, and they also have two sound cooperative. But in the

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end they're only interested in what goes on in their backyard and

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helping their own people. In a way, Mr Trump is being straightforward

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and honest, isn't it? I think he's just there for cosmetic reasons. He

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just wants to be seen there. A lot of the agendas will have been

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decided before they sit down and have discussions. It's interesting

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that he ever ran with her, and interesting that he overran with

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Putin. I don't know if that means they need to double the length of

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every audience because he loses concentration halfway through, or if

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it means he's saying something new and interesting, which is what Putin

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suggested was much more serious when you meet him behind closed doors.

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Let's move on, Shyama, to the story we've been circling around. The good

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old Mail will mail it properly. This is Theresa May under heavy fire at

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home. They have a contact of David Davis. Andrew Mitchell. Yes. The man

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who had a tangle with bicycles! Absolutely. It says that May must

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quit now. It's covered in different variations with different MPs in the

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Sunday Times and Sunday Telegraph, because I think the Telegraph has

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got people saying, every bill she puts the rest going to look like a

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Christmas tree because we're going to be hanging so much on it. The

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Sunday Times had three people saying she's got to go because she's not

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sorting things out. This is the latest, the most important. Because

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David Davis is he Brexit man. Again, I'm not sure he's saying anything

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which isn't obvious. We must be clear, Andrew Mitchell is saying it.

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He may be David Davis's jump, but it's not suggested that David Davis

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himself is saying these things. These remarks made at a private

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dinner in June at which somebody was present. The story has been

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overheated. It's not the first time the Sunday newspapers have been

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overheating stories. But apparently at this first meal Andrew Mitchell

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said that Theresa May was dead in the water, couldn't go on, and a new

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leader was required. This comes amongst reports of is a kamikaze

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group of MPs ready to risk handing power to Jeremy Corbyn, and they

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believe that ousting Mrs Mabel effectively kill off any events to

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reverse Brexit. -- ousting Mrs May will effectively kill off. That is

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reflected across pretty much all the Sunday newspapers, including the

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sun, which has another story from Grant Shapps, saying they are

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dysfunctional Number 10. The only paper that isn't reporting it is the

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Labour leading paper the Sunday Mirror, which doesn't have anything

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about instability in the Conservative Party. Rather unusual,

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perhaps! These results are marks of Andrew Mitchell allegedly made. I

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think we will see a lot more of this in the months to come. Let's go to a

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different story. Let's get away from the straightforward politics. The

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Sunday Telegraph front Page, whose turn is it... Vincent, I think it is

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you. American plans for armed officers in UK airports. That sounds

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rather alarming. What they're suggesting is what already happens

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with British border guards in France. We've effectively moved our

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immigration controls to France to stop people that should be coming to

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England crossing over. The suggestion is the same thing could

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happen to British passengers going to the States. You would have US

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immigration at British airports to clear security at this end. But for

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us, because they say that you would miss the big lines at American

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airports. But I think some of the line that big American airports are

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shorter than those at British airports these days! Whether that

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would happen, it suggests that some airports, like Dublin and Shannon

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where it already happens, some airports like that don't want to do

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it. Does it mean Americans with guns at our airports? I think it's

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outrageous. Why do you say that? Firstly we don't have any room.

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Perhaps when we get the next runway, we can think about putting in

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American immigration. But I think it's outrageous that another

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country's legislation would be enacted on our soil. It's their

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rules, it's on their soil but they should be checking immigrants, not

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on our soil. But we have an agreement with France and do it with

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friends. America unfortunately see us as not without the odd terrorist.

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Then we should be checking people for gun ownership. It's silly. How

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many terrorists have we exported to America? I'm not aware of any. There

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was the shoe bomber. There have been a couple of cases where there have

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been lots over here to try to blow up transatlantic airliners. We never

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Trump is not the biggest fan of allowing certain people and checked

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into America's. But he's not checking Saudis going into America.

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He's not checking people coming in to learn how to fly planes in

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America. Why should the British be stopped? Time for a quick story,

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Shyama, a great headline - "I'm first man to give birth". This is

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inside of the Daily Mail. How is he able to say this and what does he or

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she mean? It's a trans-mail going through the process of becoming a

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man called Scott Parker. The reason this story is interesting in the

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mail is because the sun has got an interesting interview with the

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male-female transition who is claimed to be the first man to give

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birth in the UK. What they're saying is that this person, Scott Parker,

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has eaten him by six weeks. Essentially, it's a newspaper war.

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-- has beaten him. The Mail is declaring that they have the first

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dad. The sun has probably paid a lot of amount of money to their man,

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Hayden Cross, who they report is the first man to have given birth. It's

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an old-fashioned tabloid wars. It's one of those interesting stories of

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the moment because it's so hard to know what the correct vocabulary is.

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Scott and Hayden are both men, but they are in the bodies of women,

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making the transition. They stopped and will continue it now. Although

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they are saying they're the first man to give birth, they are still

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having female bodies. So it's not quite what it seems. We are grateful

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to you for your review of the papers. Thank you very much to

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Shyama and Vincent. Just a reminder we take a look

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at tomorrows front pages every

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