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my guess is Marcel Thereux, and we are talking about his story about | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
storytelling, and why it matters. Hello and welcome to our look ahead | :00:07. | :00:20. | |
to what the papers will be With me are Nigel Nelson, | :00:21. | :00:24. | |
who is the political editor at the Sunday Mirror | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
and Sunday People, and the political Tomorrow's front pages: The Observer | :00:28. | :00:30. | |
says that the Prime Minister, Theresa May, is facing a revolt | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
from remain supporting Conservative The same story leads | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
the Sunday Telegraph, with Tory rebels being told to back | :00:38. | :00:47. | |
Brexit or get Corbyn. The Sunday Times also leads | :00:48. | :00:50. | |
with a Brexit story. It says Theresa May has secretly | :00:51. | :00:53. | |
agreed a ?50 billion divorce bill The Mail on Sunday claims that | :00:54. | :00:56. | |
Theresa May ignored a memo from Sir Lynton Crosby | :00:57. | :01:02. | |
telling her not to risk a snap And the Express front page has | :01:03. | :01:05. | |
the news that Moors Murderer, Ian Brady, who died in May, | :01:06. | :01:10. | |
left presents to pen-pals including So let's begin, and Nigel, I will | :01:11. | :01:29. | |
get you to kick us off this time. We will start with the Sunday Telegraph | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
where we are going Brexit to begin with. Tory rebels being rapped over | :01:35. | :01:37. | |
the knuckles in advance of a busy week. Parliament comes back on | :01:38. | :01:43. | |
Tuesday after a long break and the first thing they are faced with is | :01:44. | :01:47. | |
the great repeal bill, now they have dropped the great. That puts all EU | :01:48. | :01:54. | |
law into British law on Brexit date, which is basically quite sensible. | :01:55. | :01:59. | |
However, a lot of Tory MPs do not like this very much. They are | :02:00. | :02:01. | |
worried about the government basically taking too many powers | :02:02. | :02:04. | |
away from Parliament and handing it to Whitehall. So the Telegraph as | :02:05. | :02:10. | |
saying that six of them may well rebel. It could be even more than | :02:11. | :02:15. | |
that. At the same time, Labour objects to the bill because it | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
doesn't put in the protections they want to see in it and they will be | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
voting against it and they are encouraging the Tories to come | :02:24. | :02:26. | |
across. In the Sunday papers, a charm offensive by Damian Green, | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
first Secretary of State, who was effectively Theresa May's Deputy | :02:32. | :02:35. | |
Prime Minister. He is appealing for Tory unity. Theresa May is in every | :02:36. | :02:42. | |
paper asking for Tory unity as well. David Davis is in another Sunday | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
paper doing the same thing. It is quite a co-ordinated effort. | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
Probably she will get through this week. If she doesn't, the government | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
falls, which is their warning. And as the Telegraph says, then you end | :02:55. | :02:59. | |
up with Jeremy Corbyn, as they would be a general election. Probably | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
these MPs will hold their fire and try and amend the bill in committee. | :03:04. | :03:08. | |
Still a problem for her because she relies completely on this bill to | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
get Brexit through. It is all about numbers, isn't it? It undermines | :03:15. | :03:18. | |
completely her slim majority, this absolutely way the then seeing which | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
is going to be the difference between her staying in power and | :03:24. | :03:27. | |
Jeremy Corbyn getting in -- wafer-thin thing. Or possibly Brexit | :03:28. | :03:33. | |
never happening and ending up with a hung parliament again. We were | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
talking earlier and saying I feel like I have heard this argument | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
about could the Tories be united and put their splits to one side? I feel | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
like I have heard that all my adult life. And there is Bill Cash quoted, | :03:47. | :03:53. | |
just to make sure it feels like a rerun. You think either get on and | :03:54. | :03:57. | |
do the job that you have got us into by calling the referendum that David | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
Cameron... And we will come at him later, and just get to it. But this | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
is all the worst sort of venal party politics. You have Corbyn who | :04:07. | :04:12. | |
doesn't want an election, you have Theresa May, who doesn't want an | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
election because Corbyn might win. Then you have the SNP and Democrats | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
and a few rebels and you have Conservative MPs saying don't bully | :04:21. | :04:25. | |
us, we will do what we think is right for the country. I think that | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
is probably right. And the election is quite important. Although Jeremy | :04:31. | :04:35. | |
Corbyn has to say he wants an election, he doesn't really want to | :04:36. | :04:38. | |
have to negotiate Brexit. Much better to pick up the pieces right | :04:39. | :04:43. | |
at the end of it and try and put right anything that might be wrong. | :04:44. | :04:48. | |
Talking about election, much has been made this week, and it has | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
picked up in articles tomorrow, about Theresa May saying she is in | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
it for the long-term and will be around for the next election. That | :04:58. | :05:03. | |
has caused some disquiet. I read a story last week naming the date that | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
she would go. This is making the assumption that as she had indicated | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
to Tory MPs, she wouldn't stay beyond September 20 19. I did a | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
story working out the date from that with Tory election rules and the | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
Parliamentary timetable, and 30 August 2019, a Friday, when she | :05:22. | :05:29. | |
would have to quit. Suddenly she goes to Japan and make the | :05:30. | :05:33. | |
announcement she will stay, which astonished all of us. Not least the | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
Tory party. You had Lord Heseltine coming out, Grant Shapps, pointing | :05:38. | :05:43. | |
out that this is not in her gift. The Tory party decides the leader, | :05:44. | :05:47. | |
not the leader. And she was asked directly by one of our BBC political | :05:48. | :05:53. | |
correspondent, and once she says she is not Steyn, people will say it is | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
unstable, and we can't negotiate with her. She showed the ability to | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
mess up the election and what she has said is I will stay as long as | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
the Tory party and the country want me. That is all you have to say. You | :06:09. | :06:12. | |
are not putting a timetable on it. The next question is does that mean | :06:13. | :06:18. | |
after Brexit? She could repeat the same answer, I will stay as long as | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
and so on. It has gone down well, calming the waters in the Tory | :06:24. | :06:27. | |
party. Suddenly she says this and kicks up a huge storm again. Another | :06:28. | :06:33. | |
huge storm brewing in the Sunday Times, suggesting she is getting too | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
busy and making secret deals before anything is announced. And as Chris | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
Mason said when you were talking to him earlier, it is so secret it is | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
on the front page of the Sunday Times. Allegedly she has agreed a | :06:47. | :06:52. | |
?50 billion Brexit deal, so she wants to approve this after the | :06:53. | :06:55. | |
Conservative Party conference in October, in a bid to try and | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
kickstart talks with the European Union, and Britain would pay between | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
?7 billion and ?17 billion a year to Brussels, and Downing Street | :07:05. | :07:11. | |
completely denying this and saying there is no truth in it. A source | :07:12. | :07:16. | |
close to Tim Shipman or close to Number Ten, I should say, sorry, a | :07:17. | :07:24. | |
source close to Theresa May, says they are planning how to do the | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
Brexit Bill, and whether to do it as an early payment. Again, it is | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
coming back to numbers, and we still don't know what the bill is going to | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
be. We still don't know what the cost of the negotiations is going to | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
be. And over what a long period of time. And rather oddly, I think, | :07:43. | :07:48. | |
given that most Sunday papers rather like doing polls and things, they | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
have a survey saying seven out of ten voters and four out of ten | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
Tories disagreed with Mrs May's assertion that she should fight the | :07:57. | :08:03. | |
next election. 30% of voters want her to fight on, 40% want her to | :08:04. | :08:09. | |
quit before 2022. I find it odd that they didn't put that further up. | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
When it comes to this, it is time we got figures out there. A whole of | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
the negotiation is being held up as of money, and if Barnier says this | :08:19. | :08:25. | |
is the money we want from you, then we are in a negotiation. It is David | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
Davis's duty to beat him down on whatever it is but at least we have | :08:30. | :08:34. | |
a starting point. It is the fact we have no figure which means we are | :08:35. | :08:37. | |
having talks about talks six months after Article 50 was triggered. | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
Let's go back in time with the Mail on Sunday, because they have a story | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
which takes us back to the snap general election and that Theresa | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
May was warned it was a catastrophic mistake. Yes, so this is a secret | :08:53. | :08:57. | |
paper which has been leaked to the Mail on Sunday, and it is a memo | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
from Sir Lynton Crosby, the Australian election guru who helped | :09:03. | :09:08. | |
David Cameron wind two elections and Boris Johnson when two terms as | :09:09. | :09:14. | |
Mayor of London. He was away in Fiji on a long planned family holiday for | :09:15. | :09:19. | |
his wife's birthday. Does he wish he had stayed there now? I suspect he | :09:20. | :09:26. | |
probably does. He was told that they were thinking of going for an early | :09:27. | :09:29. | |
election and he said I don't think that is a very good idea, mate. Not | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
to the Prime Minister, but somebody quite senior, and said what research | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
have you been doing? He is... I don't know him, you probably do, | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
Nigel, but he is renowned for being absolutely rigid. His message was | :09:46. | :09:58. | |
who do you trust on the economy, and not on foxhunting and everything | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
else. His advice was clearly this is a high-risk strategy, there is no | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
guarantee you will get the landslide the polls are currently predicting. | :10:07. | :10:09. | |
And of course, she ignored it and we all know now what a total shambles | :10:10. | :10:14. | |
it was. And mainly the blame game, inevitably, goes back to Fiona Hill | :10:15. | :10:24. | |
and Nick Timothy. You have a fascinating, a great... Well, an | :10:25. | :10:27. | |
interesting picture comparing Nick Timothy to Rasputin, mostly in line | :10:28. | :10:35. | |
with the beard. The character has a bit to do with it as well. Or a Mac | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
and we hear this thing that we have heard so often, that Theresa May's | :10:40. | :10:46. | |
him ignored Crosby's advice out of spite. You get an adviser who thinks | :10:47. | :10:52. | |
they have more power, and they exclude other people, and that is | :10:53. | :10:57. | |
where you end up with a shambles. What did you make of this, Nigel? | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
There is a lot of unpicking of who said what. It is a blame game. What | :11:03. | :11:07. | |
is interesting about the article is Lynton Crosby was responsible for | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
making a presidential campaign and making Theresa May the centre of it. | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
Clearly a mistake, she wasn't up to that. Equally you had Nick Timothy | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
and Fiona Hill, with an iron grip on Downing Street already causing | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
problems, and making a huge cache of the party manifesto. Everybody takes | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
the blame for it. Ultimately it is with the Prime Minister because it | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
was her choice to call the election in the first place. We will move | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
away from Brexit to something totally different. This is in the | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
Sunday express, about health tourism, particularly on the issue | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
of cancer. It is a fascinating piece, this one. It is from Doctor | :11:47. | :11:54. | |
Thomas, a cancer specialist at the Royal Marsden Hospital in London and | :11:55. | :11:59. | |
he says that one in 20 patients he treats as a health tourist. | :12:00. | :12:02. | |
Interestingly he is talking about the fact that the bill for health | :12:03. | :12:10. | |
tourism is probably hugely underrated. At the moment it is | :12:11. | :12:13. | |
reckoned at about ?2 billion, he thinks it is much higher. The | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
government are trying to do something about this. They want | :12:18. | :12:20. | |
people who come in and are not entitled to NHS treatment to put a | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
deposit down, at least to pay for the nonurgent treatment they have. | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
What Doctor Thomas says it is they don't have the staff in hospitals to | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
actually administer that. So effectively not working. Clearly | :12:33. | :12:39. | |
warning like that from a person like that needs to be taken seriously. | :12:40. | :12:43. | |
They have a way of dealing with it. If it is not working they need to | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
make it work. I will have to rattle through, because there is a lot we | :12:48. | :12:51. | |
want to get through. Onto the Observer, and at the bottom, not | :12:52. | :12:58. | |
their main story because they were on Brexit as well. A clampdown on | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
fixed odds betting. There has been a lot of concern about this, | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
particularly from gambling addiction charities, because touchscreen | :13:09. | :13:11. | |
roulette things, and the argument is that gamblers at the moment can play | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
casino games with stakes of up to ?100 every 20 seconds, which in | :13:17. | :13:22. | |
extreme cases means a player can gamble away ?80,000 in an hour. | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
Gambling charities, addiction charities, want the stakes to be | :13:27. | :13:33. | |
lowered to about ?2. Now, obviously that would have implications for the | :13:34. | :13:37. | |
Treasury, and so there has been a bit of... Sort of I think, that the | :13:38. | :13:41. | |
Treasury wanted to keep money but obviously be seen to do the right | :13:42. | :13:46. | |
thing. You have the Department of culture, media and sport saying they | :13:47. | :13:49. | |
must do something about this. In a letter to the Bishop of St Albans, | :13:50. | :13:57. | |
one Doctor Alan Smith, the Chancellor, Philip Hammond, has | :13:58. | :14:00. | |
assured the Bishop that they are going to do something about it, and | :14:01. | :14:04. | |
they are going to look at it. It is four columns of a story that is the | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
government rights to the Bishop to say don't worry about it, we are | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
looking at it. But they have to lower the stakes, because there is | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
not a lot else you can do to control this. And have fewer of them on the | :14:17. | :14:19. | |
high street. They target poorer areas. We have been running a | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
campaign on the Sunday people the two years about this. It is | :14:24. | :14:28. | |
essential you have fewer of them, the stakes are much lower, and stop | :14:29. | :14:31. | |
targeting poorer and vulnerable people. | :14:32. | :14:36. | |
Let's go back to the Sunday Telegraph | :14:37. | :14:38. | |
Let's go back to the Sunday Telegraph and the bottom of the | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
page, tucked away, a story about the NHS terrifying older women who | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
choose to have a child in later life. This has come from Professor | :14:47. | :14:53. | |
Cathy Warwick, the outgoing chief executive of the Royal College of | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
midwives and a midwife herself, saying health professionals have | :14:57. | :15:02. | |
overstated the risks attached to age of older mothers... I think as you | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
probably know, I think it is something like 35 or 36 and you are | :15:07. | :15:12. | |
a geriatric as a mother. Devastating. Terribly upsetting for | :15:13. | :15:17. | |
women. What she is saying is the sensible, if you are healthy, your | :15:18. | :15:23. | |
risks are only a little bit greater than if you have a baby in your 20s | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
but there are a lot more women having children in their 40s, there | :15:28. | :15:32. | |
are more children born to women over 40 than under 20 but nevertheless, | :15:33. | :15:37. | |
the facts speak for themselves, rates of stillbirth and Down's | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
syndrome do increase with older pregnancies. My mother was over 40 | :15:42. | :15:48. | |
and I'm still here. And perfectly normal as far as we can tell! Let's | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
finish on the story tucked inside the Sunday express, Nigel, a picture | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
of David Cameron with this shorts on at the corn free music festival but | :15:59. | :16:01. | |
he's planning on going further afield? He's going to south Dakota, | :16:02. | :16:08. | |
to the wild west. A lovely story, he has an ?800,000 publishing deal, he | :16:09. | :16:14. | |
makes ?125,000 an hour for a speech, he's not really on this uppers but | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
he's going to Rapids city in South Dakota and he's going to give a talk | :16:20. | :16:24. | |
for ?5 a head and I hope they thoroughly enjoy it. Apparently the | :16:25. | :16:29. | |
tickets are selling rather well. Rapids city is a place where there's | :16:30. | :16:36. | |
a civics centre and its organised by... It's the Jonty Bloom Vukovic | :16:37. | :16:54. | |
foundation speaker series. In 1994 Mrs Thatcher gave a speech in the | :16:55. | :16:58. | |
town, it is close to the town of Devon. They have heard Colin Powell | :16:59. | :17:06. | |
and Benazir Bhutto. The place to be for ?5, $11, and ?2 30 if you are a | :17:07. | :17:12. | |
student. The suggestion from the headline would be it is all going | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
down the pan but he is esteemed company. I hope he puts some better | :17:17. | :17:23. | |
clothes on! Thanks very much, Jo and Nigel, great to have you with us | :17:24. | :17:25. | |
again. Coming up next it's time | :17:26. | :17:25. | |
for Meet the Author. A story about storytelling, that | :17:26. | :17:46. | |
myth and belief, about human curiosity and our weakness for a | :17:47. | :17:48. | |
secret. | :17:49. | :17:49. |