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I will be back in the next hour on BBC News.

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Hello and welcome to our look at what the papers are

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With me are James Millar, political commentator -

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and David Wooding, Political Editor Sun on Sunday.

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Good morning to those of you. The front pages are here for us. Let me

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run them by you. The Observer says that the Prime

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Minister Theresa May is facing a revolt from remain supporting

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Conservative MP's over The same story leads

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the Sunday Telegraph with Tory rebels being told to back Brexit

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or get Corbyn. The Sunday Times also leads

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with a Brexit story, it says Theresa May has secretly

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agreed a 50 billion pound The Mail on Sunday claims that

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Theresa May ignored a memo from Sir Lynton Crosby

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telling her not to risk a snap And The Express front

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page has the news that Moors Murderer Ian Brady,

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who died in May, left presents to pen-pals

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including locks of his hair. James, take us to the Telegraph

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first. Tory rebels told that Brexit or get Corbyn. Parliament is back

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this week. The Great Repeal Bill is in front of parliament this week, we

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will get into the proper and meet and vegetables of Brexit. Tory

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rebels have been told back Brexit or get Corbyn, rather suggesting that

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Theresa May has not learned the lesson from the election in which

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she said back me or get Corbyn. She has got a minority government, the

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possibility that Corbyn... If the government falls, but the numbers

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are such that it will be fun and games over the next couple of weeks.

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A warning from Damian Green. David... Warnings going out today,

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Damian Green saying we should bury our differences and fought for the

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good of the people, the Labour former frontbencher Caroline Flint,

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saying put aside any thought of sinking the government and do for

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the people voted for. In the Sun on Sunday David Davies writes today,

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talking about how he thinks Labour are dry to hold down the Brexit

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debate in this House of Commons voting chaos which could come about

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if they don't get the Great Repeal Bill through. The problem with this

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is what a lot of MPs will be voting for is what breaks it was supposed

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to be about, ringing back control. The Great Repeal Bill will focus on

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government moves to try and sideline parliament and take as much

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executive power so we don't have to put thoughts before Parliament and

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the rebels, such as they are, want Parliament to have as much say as

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parliament which is surely the Brexit was about. It's the laws that

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were EU laws becoming UK laws but how much do you scrutinise the

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transfer process? This is quite sensible. When we leave the European

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Union in March 2019, we will take back control but there is all these

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laws which have wheedled their way into our lives, 70-80% of laws

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created by the European Union. Controversial statistic. Let's

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say... Other statistics are available. The Great Repeal Bill

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scraps of those as European laws and transfers them into the British

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statute books or they can then be altered. The row that arises because

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the Labour Party or Keir Starmer the shadow Brexit secretary says this

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will lead to ministers having the power to amend and altered these

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laws and things like workers' rights. He also wants crucially for

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the bill to stipulate that we could have an extended membership of the

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single market which means no control of free movement and also the

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customs union which of course means we can't do trade deals with other

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countries. Let's continue the Brexit theme. Meet secretly agrees ?50

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million breaks at all. What do we make of that? I love a secret on the

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front page because it's no longer a secret. Number ten denying this,

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suggesting they want to keep it secret. It's an interesting way of

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covering this. Some weeks ago we had the Telegraph saying 36 billion is

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the figure Britain is willing to pay, that's now gone up to 50

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billion, Brexit negotiations going on over, suggesting to me the EU is

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saying you have to pay more, the government is going to have to pay

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more. But it's being dressed up as internal Tory politics and all the

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rest. What's interesting, nobody has come up with a real figure, all the

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figures have been speculative, the European Union hasn't told us how

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much they want and we happened made them an offer they keep saying we

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need to settle a bill. The figure has been touted at 60 billion, but

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never crystallised. Never official. Somebody has told the Sunday Times

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that the government has drawn up a figure of ?50 billion but they are

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not going to announce it until after the Conservative Party conference

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because to say we will pay this much money to the European Union would

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cause a massive row at party conference and could topple Theresa

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May. After the conference they will announce this to sweeten the pill,

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all but three years, it will be about 17 billion a year and paid off

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by 2022, before the next general election. The figures and timings

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make sense, Downing Street saying a load of rubbish. They are hoping

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that no one will spot they are paying at over three years, still

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adds up to 50 billion. If that was a stab in the dark, it's reasonable.

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That Telegraph story a few weeks ago, was verified by three sources,

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this has been verified by one source, everyone keen to establish

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their stories are well sourced but no body is saying much else. If that

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was supposed to be secret and you point out it isn't, what is the

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motivation, do we think? For making it less secret. It is around

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confidence. The Tory conference is coming, we will get some of these in

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the next few weeks because Theresa May is week after her election

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gamble failed. And there are certain people who would like to see her no

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longer Prime Minister, people in her Cabinet and you will get a lot of

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people breathing and counter briefing to weaken her. Talking of

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her election, the front of the Mail on Sunday suggests she was warned

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about holding that election and did not follow the warning. Yes, there

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has been quite a bit of talk of a clash between who was to blame over

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the selection shambles, whether it was Lynton Crosby, the pollster, the

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big election winning Australian, known as the wizard of Oz because of

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his great success and the gang known as was beaten, the formerly bearded,

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Nick Timothy, one of the joint chiefs of staff. There has been a

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lot of counter blaming but the leaking of this note says that

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Lynton Crosby says, the research had shown there was a lot of risk in

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holding an early election, voters actively seeking to avoid

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uncertainty and by creating uncertainty it might run against it

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and of the election was held today there is a risk it could go back to

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the Parliament of 2015. What's curious, people will remember the

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opinion polls when she decided to call the election and they were

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resoundingly in her favour. It's interesting, the memo, as you say,

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the important bit is it says voters want stability and having an

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election is not stability, as the memo says. Folders show a clear

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preference for Theresa May but that means they think they can vote for

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whoever they want and Jeremy Corbyn will not get into number ten and the

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way things played out suggest that this was bang on, people did think,

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I will vote for a good local MP and Jeremy Corbyn ends up with a lot

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more MPs than any of us, including himself, were expecting. The other

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bit of interesting detail, when one of Theresa May's aides ran that a

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brand Lynton Crosby with the date, he said apparently, I am not so sure

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that is a smart idea, mate. Good idea. Let's move on. The Sunday

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Telegraph, let's go back to that. This is a story towards the bottom

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of the front page, stop scaring older mothers and it quotes

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Professor Cathy Warwick, from the Royal College of Midwives. I was

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think about three men in suits sitting around and talking about

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childbirth... It is interesting. What she says, the longer you wait

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to have children there are certain risk factors that go up but what

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Professor Cathy Warwick suggests is that the risk goes up by a small

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amount, how significant is that? Is it overplayed? She says I am not

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sure why we are so worried and I am not sure we should be terrifying

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woman about it. Well... I suggested something to do with the patriarch

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if you want to go into that, that level of staff. Why do we constantly

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terrify women by biological clocks and all that sort of thing?

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Regularly. I suspect this is one of the reasons behind it. Quite a bit

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in there about the overzealous promotion of so-called natural

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childbirth, some others being purged to have no medical intervention

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whatsoever, of course each breath is completely different and has to be

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taken as such. The Sunday express, let's pick some stories from there.

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Page two, exclusive, can't specialist says NHS tourists cost ?2

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billion a year. It's the running controversy of health tourism --

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tourism, as it is dubbed, people coming to Britain to have free

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nonurgent medical care like hip replacements and cataract

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operations. A consultant at the Royal Marsden Hospital, cancer

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specialist, says one in 20 cases that come to the hospital are health

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tourists and of course, the big problem is, we don't claim the money

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back. If you come here from a foreign country to have routine

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surgery of some kind your government or you yourself should pay that back

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and the problem is that the NHS don't seem to chase it. He says

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doctors are not equipped to look at people's passports and know whether

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somebody is a foreign health tourism or not. But of course in my view,

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there are flaws and -- floors and floors at health managers and

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officials who could do this. But isn't that the problem? Not enough,

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a lot of hospitals employ someone specifically to work out who is

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entitled to what and to reclaim the money. And of course, if they do,

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certain newspapers will say, look at all the managers in the NHS, why

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don't they spend that on nurses? It is worth pointing out that Graham

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Thomas is a controversial character, been in the papers a few times over

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the years. Just one point, makes reference to what the government

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hopes to recoup by introducing new -- new measures next month, some

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debate as to whether that will make a difference. 500 million a year, I

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think? These figures get handed about. Figures on paper, if someone

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turns up, they talk about the Lagos shuttle of pregnant women who turn

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up from Nigeria, someone turns up at a hospital saying I am about to have

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a baby, you can say to them you don't have the right passport,

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Galway, what do you do? It's all about the mix of efficiency. -- go

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away. Reform and funding. You cannot just divorce one from the other. I

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should say the Royal Marsden declined to comment on that piece.

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Alongside it, page three, my career has gone West, he was the future

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once now Cameron is booked to speak in the wilds of South Dakota to a ?5

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ahead crowd. David, take us there. This was the man who was in number

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ten, David, David who? He is in rapid city in the heart of the wild

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West, students paying the equivalent of ?2 50 to hear him speak and those

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in non-concession are paying $7 or five quid to hear the Prime

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Minister. It shows you how life moves on and compared with the likes

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of Tony Blair, raking in a fortune, even Gordon Brown who gives it

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straight... Read further down, Mr Cameron has not done badly out of

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one or two previous... And we don't know how much he is earning, it says

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this actually pays the speakers but doesn't reveal how much it pays

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them. Mrs Thatcher spoke, Colin Powell, Benazir Bhutto, they are not

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getting paid just what they make the door, they get paid a significant

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fee to turn up. I was to say... Not making so much out of that. ?100,000

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publishing deal has been struck, compared with Tony Blair or Margaret

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Thatcher, significantly lower. Apparently Tony Blair made for .6

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million, Thatcher three and a half million. One more, let's go to the

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Observer and its front page. Fixed odds betting, quite a lot of concern

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about terminals, there is talk of a clamp-down. Yes, the crack cocaine

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of the betting world, super puggies as they are known in Scotland. You

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can lose huge amounts of money on these and the government keeps

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saying it will do something about them but it slightly smacks of the

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government not having a huge amount to talk about. A lot of Brexit

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talking up, yesterday talking about holes in the road, they are going

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fixed on betting terminals. We are expecting something in the summer,

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classic government definition is now getting pushed back to October.

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Whether that is something that will happen or not, it just smacks to me

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of the government saying something to put in the papers. As one of

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these issues are lot of people will be saying I told you so. In the

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Blair years betting regulations were relaxed as were drinking

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regulations, people feel maybe they went too far, the balance has been

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redressed. As you say, it's quite striking. Make a stake of up to ?120

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every few seconds, a player could potentially gamble away ?18,000

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every hour. Not good for anybody. Good for the Treasury. Some betting

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shops make after earnings from these now. Rather than the horses. That

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said that the papers, -- Just a reminder we take a look

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at tomorrow's front pages every evening at 10.40pm

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here on BBC News. bed of a mixed day across the UK,

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enjoying some bright weather but in the West some thick cloud. That

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