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the hunt for a Victorian serial killer in the British thriller. We

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get James King's take on this and the rest of the week's cinema

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releases in the Film Review. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the papers will be With me are the Parliamentary

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journalist Tony Grew and the entertainment

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journalist Caroline Frost. Tomorrow's front pages:

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The Financial Times writes that Donald Trump has opened

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the door to military action following the latest nuclear weapons

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test by North Korea. The i also leads with the bomb test,

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in which the US secretary of defence warns of possible annihilation

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options in response. Your move, Mr Trump,

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is the headline across the Metro, as it shows a photo

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of the North Korean leader shortly The Times says Mr Trump has

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threatened to sever trade ties with any country that deals

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with North Korea, including China. According to the Telegraph,

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there is growing concern in Europe that Mr Trump is considering

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unilateral action, as the UN Security Council is

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due to meet tomorrow. The Guardian leads with

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an unpublished official report which says families who have lost

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loved ones in police custody are being failed by authorities,

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and calls for reform to the system. And the Daily Mail headlines that

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households who overfill their bins could face a fine of up to ?2,500

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and a criminal conviction, as councils try to push recycling

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and cut collections. Let's began. -- begin. We will start

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off with the Guardian, and the big story is North Korea. So the front

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page of the Guardian, escalating the nuclear crisis is the way they are

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labelling that picture. Yes, I mean, it is obviously a very worrying set

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of circumstances. Although there hasn't been any independent

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verification, it looks very likely that North Korea has detonated a

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bomb in a nuclear tests, the first test they had carried out since

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President Trump came into office and the sixth since 2006. Now, if they

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have a nuclear capability, and they have recently demonstrated that they

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have the ability to fire long-range missiles, certainly as far as Japan

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and beyond, then this is an existential threat to the United

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States, and indeed, two other actors in the region. The disturbing thing

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is that the sanctions regimes which have been in place for a long time

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don't appear to be working. North Korea is still pushing forward with

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its ambitions to become a nuclear armed state. It concerns me that

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Donald Trump is leaving at this moment, because his approach is

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different to the coolheaded approach we might expect from the leader of

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the free world. I talked about the missile test. He is talking about

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fire and fury, and I was looking at that in thinking that is not how

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this is supposed to work. A more junior State Department official

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should be responding to that. Not the president of the United States.

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He just escalated this to the top of the agenda. I can't help thinking of

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this is North Korea escalating Ms Moore, pushing and pushing it to see

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what happens next. And on the subject of sanctions, I can't

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remember who it was, but I think there was a national leader who was

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saying that we need to implement the sanctions that have already been

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proved. Some people will be surprised, saying why agree to these

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sanctions and not implement them? And because we know very little

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about the motivation of the North Korean leaders, we could argue it is

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the sanctions causing them to go down this avenue. They are thinking

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the world is pressing in on us on trade channel, and we need to show

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our might somehow. It is like bouncy castle, squeeze them here and they

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will try to emerge mightier here. Economic sanctions do not seem to be

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working. They are not pulling back. As you say, Donald Trump's hefty

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tweets don't seem to be doing much either. I feel like we have been

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back into a corner. We can just desperately hope that a lot of back

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channels are being opened that we are not being informed about. And

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certainly South Korea wants dialogue. They don't want to go down

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this military Road, and they are the ones coming Donald Trump down,

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saying we don't want this. And that is the point. Quite apart from this

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focus on their nuclear capabilities, North Korea is a heavily armed state

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with a significant amount of conventional weapons and hardware.

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It is a huge threat. We talk about the threat to Guam or the idea that

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they might be able to get a nuclear device as far as the western coast

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of the United States, but the people in the immediate firing line from

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those conventional weapons are South Korea, especially the capital. If I

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was a South Korea, I wouldn't be particularly comforted by the fact

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that Donald Trump seems to be the United States' response. Talking

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about the US response, if we turn to the Telegraph, the US warning it is

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ready to annihilate North Korea. You mentioned this H-bomb tests, and

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basically one of the steps into obtaining a missile head that has a

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nuclear weapon on it is miniaturising. You wonder if they

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have done it. This is a big step, and the US saying they are ready to

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annihilate North Korea. This latest test has been estimated as ten times

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more powerful than the most recent ones. So the threats, if it is

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existent, as you say it has not been independently verified, is

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exponentially growing at quite a rate. And what we have in parallel

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is the US using rhetoric that is exponentially more threatening. So

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words like annihilation, fire and fury. These are meaningless words.

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These are words that you shout out when nothing is at risk, but so much

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is at risk, that I absolutely agree with Tony. I don't think that this

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can be put in the hands of the tweets, by anybody, let alone

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somebody who we know it is very spontaneous. And they are escalating

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again. Just in terms of rhetoric and language. You are now escalating the

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situation. How will we be escalated? What we should be aiming for is

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de-escalation. Containing one North Korea is trying to do in terms of

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its nuclear programme. And the only people that appear to have an

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influence on this are China. But for the president of the United States,

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or for any other administration official, to even claim that they

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might cut off trade links with China, because China trades with

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North Korea, is fantasy. And it is part of the unreality of the

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situation we're in. That you have the president of the United States

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saying I am willing to put ?400 billion worth of trade at risk. No

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president should be in that position. And you mentioned that

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ultimately what we look for is regime change, but the Qin dynasty

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is a whole other can of worms. Their whole agenda is to maintain the

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status quo, to maintain the dynasty at all cost. That is the only thing

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we know about North Korea, that if there is one agenda which is a known

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fact, it is that. They have no interest in, in any way,

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participating in something that will bring them down. And as a population

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they are a lot more prepared for war than the Americans are. They are in

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a constant state of alert. It reminds me, do you remember after

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9/11, George Bush was a little bit Old Testament, hell hath no fury,

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and it was Laura Bush, who happen to be his wife, and there was a

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de-escalation. It will be interesting to see somebody in the

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White House has a conversation overnight. I think Tillerson, but

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there are suggestions he could resign. And in the Times, Theresa

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May reigns in rebels with a fear of reshuffle. Will it happen? I don't

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know. Come on! After the Parliamentary recess, there has been

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a lot of threats throughout the weekend, Tory whips apparently

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telling Tory MPs that if they try to amend the legislation in any way

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they are ushering in a Jeremy Corbyn government. For a woman who called

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an election early, lost the majority, took the brave step of

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running a personality -based election around the candidate who

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doesn't have a personality, she has come out with what some people call

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chutzpah. She is talking about her strength and how the Prime Minister

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has the ability to hire. They are hinting Boris Johnson could be

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demoted from Foreign Secretary. I am certainly impressed with her

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optimism, and with the suggestion she thinks she has this power with

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the party. Theresa May is only prime minister because her backbenchers

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can't see a better option, and she is only prime minister because she

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has had to do a deal with a minor Northern Ireland party, and stump up

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money just to stabilise the government for two years. So the

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idea that this a Prime Minister who will sack Boris Johnson, or indeed

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that there are people who could be promoted, shows the ridiculousness

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of the situation the Conservative Party finds itself in. Putting that

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on the front page of the Times as a serious intention. There are people

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who have just been elected as chair of select committees. Who would give

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up such an important role in Parliament to become a junior

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minister for paperclips. Very little of this story I understand, if I am

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being honest. Have you been following the rise and rise of Jacob

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Rees-Mogg? Every era seems to throw up somebody. We had the Boris years,

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the fluffy charm, and Jacob Rees-Mogg I would argue is taking

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that position. It has left room for Jacob Rees-Mogg to flourish. In the

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Mirror, I thought this opt out system was already in place, because

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we have been talking about it for a long time, haven't we? It is in

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place in Wales and is about to come in in Scotland, and it is quite

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common in European countries, but not here. Basically, in England, you

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have two opt in, as I am sure people are aware, you have to opt in for

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organ donation. And the Labour MP, in the Mirror, putting pressure on

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the government to train change that, so that in the event of their death,

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the organs will be available for transplant. I don't know, what do

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you think about it? I think it is one of those things that I think it

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is a very wise system. Just because it is the sort of question that

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nobody wants to be asked ever, particular in a very traumatic

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circumstances. We have anecdotal evidence and huge research that

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people do feel better at a time of otherwise desperate despair and

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sadness, that this has happened. Do you have a card? Yes, I have a card.

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Would you assume your family would say yes? I think so. Of all the

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family is the research, they found that 177 people said they weren't

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sure what they their families wanted. At some arbitrary time in

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your life, you signup to it, and there are many subjects British

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people don't like to discuss. And maybe the day you leave school, when

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you are not worried about it. The Daily Mail, that scares me. There

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are certain times of the year when, you know, you do put a lot of

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rubbish in your bin. Do they clink? In that blue bin. It is so unlike

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the Daily Mail. It is obviously a rare miss from them that they have

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managed to wind people up. This will wind people up as it will give

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councils, and many are angry about their bin collections to begin with,

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the fact they are forced to go through all these hoops, in the name

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of recycling and green targets, not that I disapprove of those, but this

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will be another puritans, and the fascinating thing about this is that

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terminal convictions. People get a criminal conviction for overfilling

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their bin. Singapore style, isn't it? And putting your bin out early

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or late is on the list of offences. I spent some time studying in

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Switzerland and I thought I was being very efficient, I put my bin

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out a day early and was charged about ?70 for that. And I took it on

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the chin. It is quite common in some European countries, they have really

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strict rules. They are much more regimented societies than Britain

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has been up until now. Obviously things might be... A criminal

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conviction, Caroline. I don't want to be too old lady, but some things

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could be considered criminal, dropping a piece of litter, you see

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people leaving sofas, at what point do you realise you lived in a nice

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community and it no longer is nice? Are not suggesting we go all the way

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to Singapore, and fine people for dropping a sweet wrapper, but make a

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point. And fly tipping needs a lot of resources and is a much bigger

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problem. I would think they would want to put these two things

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together. And you are both excited about this. You like a bit of bling,

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do you, Tony? I think it is nice to see people who we might have assumed

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were no longer with us, but Donald Sutherland certainly lived on the

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wild side. I didn't know who that was until you said that. It is good

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to see him still mobile. I find it interesting, because this Film

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Festival is a brilliant showcase, including for some British films. It

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has a real boost to its profile because it won an award. This is

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part of the momentum building for awards season, which will come early

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2018. What I am enjoying about the Film Festival this year, we have

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Dame Helen as a brilliant and radiant as ever, a couple of days

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ago we had Robert Redford and Jane Fonda, and it is great to see a real

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veteran, top Hollywood stars on the red carpet, and there is a hunger

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for them. Forget what you say about the youth market, they can have

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their super heroes, this is the quality stuff. We have run out of

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time. Thank you, Tony Grew

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and Caroline Frost. Coming up next,

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it is The Film Review.

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