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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are the former Labour

adviser and comedian,

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Ayesha Hazarika and Tim Montgomerie,

the founder of unherd.com.

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A look at the front pages.

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The Metro which leads

with the resignation

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of Robert Mugabe as President

of Zimbabwe after 37 years in power.

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The I reflects the jubilant scenes

across Zimbabwe earlier today

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as news spread about the end

of Mugabe's rule.

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A so-called divorce

bill between Britain

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and the European Union could be

settled within three weeks according

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the FT's front page.

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Ahead of tomorrow's budget,

the Telegraph details a last minute

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briefing which the paper says saw

Downing Street demand a last minute

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announcement on schools.

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The Daily Express leads

with how Vitamin D could benefit

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the treatment of arthritis according

to new research.

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The Times reports that schools

will be paid £600 for every extra

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pupil they persuade to sit maths

A-level to help Britain compete

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on the world stage after Brexit.

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The Guardian has an image

of Zimbabweans celebrating

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on the streets of Harare

after Mugabe resigned.

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And the Mail urges savers to boycott

banks that have not passed on this

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month's rise in interest rates.

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Let's talk about some of those. Take

us to the front of the Metro, if

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only for the headline.

Amazing

headline, hip, hip, Harare. Most

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papers have very vibrant scenes of

GB Lei Sheng from Harare. A lot of

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smiling faces -- scenes of

jubilation. We thought Mugabe was

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going to go last week and then we

thought he was going to go on Sunday

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and it didn't work out but people

will be pleased. We shouldn't

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underestimate what a huge moment

this is in African politics. He has

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been a presiding figure not just in

Zimbabwe but across the whole

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region. At first very revered, he

was the man who helped Zimbabwe

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become independent in 1980. There

was a lot of promise, he was seen as

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this revolutionary insurgent, this

very strong figure but Zimbabwe went

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from is being the breadbasket of

Africa with great resources

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basically to being the basket case,

with horrific unemployment. At one

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point, life expectancy in Zimbabwe

was the lowest of anywhere on the

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planet, I think for a woman it was

43 years old. A huge collar and

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epidemic -- cholera and AIDS

epidemic. The agriculture dipped.

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The country has a tragic set of

events happening to it. I hope that

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even know there is a lot of

jubilation, I hope that there will

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be real change. It's important to

note that the man taking over from

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Mugabe was a big part of what

happened before, quite a

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blood-soaked history.

His nickname

is the crocodile.

Doesn't bode

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particularly well.

I think what

Morgan Tsvangirai is calling for is

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correct, until there are free and

fair elections in Zimbabwe who must

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be careful about being too jubilant.

On the story got context, this is a

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very significant day, isn't it?

A

huge moment for the moment said,

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this is a land that had so much

promise, still a lot of resources.

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Quite a talented population in many

respects and you can see the

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excitement and the jubilation. The

military, this is the softest crew

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we've seen of this kind, an example

to the rest of Africa if they can

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have lived correctly -- the softest

coup. There has been a lot of

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intimidation and violence in the

life of the modern Zimbabwe. If this

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transition can happen reasonably

peacefully, it is an open question

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as to how much justice needs to be

done. Whether, behind-the-scenes,

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since we had that extraordinary

press conference on Sunday, the

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non-amazing nation --

non-resignation conference, has he

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got protection and is the immune

from prosecution? It is up to the

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people of Zimbabwe what they will

tolerate. If he has got it it is

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going to leave a sour taste in the

malls of the many victims of his

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regime over the last 37 years. Let's

reflect on it. The pictures are so

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beautiful.

The I's front page, have

you ever seen a great expression of

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joy than the guy from the pale blue

T-shirt?

It is an amazing optic, it

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is one of hope. Zimbabwe has a young

population, actually well. Great

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hope and expectation for the future

but I think Morgan Tsvangirai is

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going to be a really important

figure. In a way he is the man who

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symbolises the brutality of what

went before. Morgan Tsvangirai

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survived three attempts on his life

including somebody coming into his

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office, hitting him across the head

with a bar and trying to throw him

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out of the window. He is going to be

somebody, he is like the physical

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embodiment of somebody who pushed

back against the regime. The

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pictures are very arresting but I

would urge a bit of caution in the

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sense that we have to see, it is no

good replacing one dictatorship with

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another one.

Moving ahead to the

Guardian which has the same image on

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the front page

you raise the issue

briefly what happens Mr Mugabe.

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There is a line on the Guardian's

coverage, the generals are yet to

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comment on his fate and one of the

uncertainties amid the talk of

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succession and maybe a democratic

process, what will happen to him?

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Absolutely, Zanu-PF appeared to have

quickly moved behind the military.

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Quite orchestrated in many senses so

maybe there is more of a plan than

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we realise. We focus a lot on the

human rights issues associated with

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the regime but the big thing that

has brought it to the climax we are

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witnessing is the economic failure,

the complete economic failure,

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basket case, as Ayesha said. It is

an opportunity for the West, we have

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some historic involvement in the

country.

I think we do.

Anything to

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how the transition. These people

have hope at the moment. The

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universities haven't been paid. If

we can help in the investment. So

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often we think of Africa as a

struggling continent but country

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after country has been moving

forward, improvements in literacy,

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improvements in child mortality etc

and now perhaps Zimbabwe will join

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the success story.

Absolutely,

Africa is the market to watch in

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terms of its infrastructure and

telecommunications, that is

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improving but interesting to see

what the leaders surrounding

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Zimbabwe do as well, particularly

South Africa.

Jacob Zuma was due

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there tomorrow, I don't know if he

will go in the light of events.

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Would be delighted if he went

altogether!

Easy for us to say in

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the west that you must have a huge

trial, but it must be for them to

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decide and it may be that there has

been so much are people and there

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has been so much bloodshed they

don't want to risk a huge uprising

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because he still quite popular in

Zimbabwe despite these pictures.

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There are many people who think of

him fondly as the person who

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liberated Zimbabwe from the evil

Empire. In a way I think that other

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leaders around may also encourage

this to be as calm as possible

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without increasing tensions.

One

more image before we talk about

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other matters, the front page of the

Daily Telegraph. If you thought that

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the man in the blue T-shirt we

showed you a moment ago was the

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happiest man in Zimbabwe, maybe this

one wearing a suit and that

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wide-eyed look is running him close!

Looks like he's going to explode

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with happiness.

Made's budget war

with Hammond: the evil they budget.

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By the time people -- the eve before

the budget. By the time people read

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it it will be the day of the budget.

Would Hammond be pleased if the

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Mugabe News had happened tomorrow?

It could have been drowned out or is

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he glad to get the attention

tomorrow? Time will tell. Philip

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Hammond, I don't think I breaking an

exclusive here...

Feel free to do

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that.

He's not the most exciting

Chancellor or politician we've ever

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had. And of course Conservative MPs

are not the happiest people and they

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are hoping for something special

from the Chancellor. There seem to

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be some interesting ideas, for

example encouraging maths teaching,

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very worthy and important but not

the kind of idea or proposal that I

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think will really change

Conservative fortunes. The story in

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the Daily Telegraph is that Theresa

May seems to be anxious that Hammond

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isn't going to delivered the game

changer.

And she may run out of

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patience with him if he doesn't.

A

reach of all that she might choose

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rather than those that have been

forced on her.

I come from a party

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where the leader and the Chancellor

used to fight a lot and it doesn't

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make for happy politics. Going into

most budgets you get a lot of pitch

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rolling and atmospherics forehand.

What people have been saying so far

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about Mr Hammond. Before a budget he

will do a lot of media on the

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Sunday. The worst budget build-up in

history. Never had it though good

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apparently. People say that it is

going to be uninspiring. What it

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looks like is that the knives are

out for him. They are stuck in this

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Brexit crisis at the moment and

really a budget that traditionally

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happens... This is what happens in

since the Conservatives have the

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election. This is a budget that is

going to be quite tough but it will

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set the tone of a government with

vision. There will be nothing of

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that. Things like housing, we need

something substantial. Theresa May's

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conference speech didn't cut any ice

with that.

We are going to get

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something on housing?

But will it be

enough? Also a lot of an happiness

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about the pay cap and calls for

regional investment. Until there is

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a narrative that pulls things

together, this is very

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insubstantial.

A couple of minutes

left. Let's sort out Brexit in that

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time! The FC, Brussels and London

aiming to reach Brexit divorce bill

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in three weeks -- the Financial

Times. This follows the meeting

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earlier today, where a new figure

was mooted. It was yesterday.

This

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sounds ambitious to me. It is vital

that this agreement is reached

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because the clock is ticking. The

Article 50 process is a two-year

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process and there is a feeling that

you need an agreement to get it

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passed by the European Parliament

etc and we haven't begun the crucial

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trade talks yet. Theresa May is

determined to find some sort of

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financial offer for the European

Union so she can get onto the trade

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talks but if it is the kind of

figure that has been talked about

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here, I think there is going to be

uproar inside the Conservative

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Party. Tory MPs, Jacob Rees Mogg,

Robert health on already leading the

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calls of anxiety. Forget the budget,

the fireworks will come when we

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start getting specifics on this

number. It will be the biggest test

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of Theresa May's leadership and

she's had a number of tests but this

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will be huge.

It's difficult because

the issue of Ireland as well, the

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border, a massive issue which people

are concerned about. Tim is right

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about the money. A lot of people

thought that we would get a lot of

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money back from the EU and it turns

out we are going to have to pay a

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lot of money to untangle ourselves.

When we get the budget we'll be told

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that there isn't much money around

and austerity will stay.

Time is up.

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Don't forget you can see the front

pages of the papers online

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on the BBC News website.

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And if you miss the programme any

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evening you can watch it

later on BBC iPlayer.

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Thank you to my guests and goodbye.

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