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Hello and welcome to our look ahead
to what the the papers will be
bringing us tomorrow.
With me are former pensions minister
Baroness Ros Altmann and the writer
and broadcaster Mihir Bose.
The Guardian leads with a story
of pressure growing on Theresa May
amid what it describes
as a "jolt" to Brexit talks.
The Telegraph claims that MI5
foiled an alleged plot
to assassinate the Prime Minister
in Downing Street.
That story also makes
the Sun's front page.
The Mirror also leads with what it
a "Terror plot
to kill Theresa May".
The Times leads with a story
on the row between Philip Hammond
and the Ministry of Defence,
claiming the chancellor has been
banned from using RAF aircraft.
The Metro leads with next year's
rise in rail fares, saying
passengers are being "bled dry".
The i notes that the increase in
rail prices will be the biggest in
The FT reports that James Murdoch
could be the new boss of Disney
if Disney buys 21st Century Fox
from the Murdoch-controlled
group of companies.
Good to have you both here. Let's
begin with the Telegraph. Rose, that
iconic picture staring out at us.
Christine Keeler in that pose on
that chair, the chair which is now
in the V&A, it was so iconic.
note saying Christine Keeler sat
I must look at what it does
say. This is a reminder of one of
the bigger sex scandals of the last
century. And it brought down the
Macmillan government. It certainly
brought down ministers. Profumo, for
lying. Was married. He had an affair
of apparently, Christine Keeler was
also having an affair with a Russian
attache. So have the makings of a
Mihir Bose, I am not
being impolite but you just about
remember the Profumo affair?
about remember reading political
stories for the first time. What is
interesting looking back to from our
21st century scandals is that when
Harold Wilson made his attack on the
Macmillan government, he said it is
not about the sex, it is because
Christine Keeler has shared secrets
with the Soviet intelligence officer
with whom she shared a bed. The
point was, the sex was not talked
about. Now we are in a different
world and a better world in the
sense that this is much more open,
but then, the question was, is the
country's intelligence being
compromised by the same woman being
in bed with two different men?
the picture captures something of
the period, doesn't it, with the
ambiguity of how women were regarded
then. She looks like a sophisticated
ingenue, when she was actually a
young Home Counties girl.
remembered as being quite naive and
caught up in all of this political
shenanigans and not really up to all
the intrigue. If she ended up in
jail for perjury as well... And she
died penniless, pretty much. It's
The whole thing with what
happened with Stephen Ward...
celebrity osteopath. He would have
his own show if it were a modern
version. He would be on reality TV,
but he ended pretty unhappily too.
Let's go to a story in the
Telegraph. Mihir, this is
intriguing, the imponderable
situation Theresa May has got
herself in over Brexit. Johnson and
Gove lead Cabinet revolt, fearing
that she is going soft.
Yes, and it
is emerging that David Davis, the
man who was supposed to take us out
of Europe, the hardliner, seems to
have gone native. There was an
exchange in Parliament today where
Jacob Rees Mogg said there should be
a red line. You can't have alignment
of regulations, and he said the only
red line it's to get a good deal out
So we are prepared to
give ground on that.
And that is
what Gove and Johnson are protesting
about. They are colleagues of yours.
David Davis seems to be coming into
the real world faster than people
like Johnson and Gove.
I guess you
were both Remainers?
Correct. But a
lot of Tories were Remainers, and
that is not the point. As David
Davis says, the point is to get the
best deal for Britain. If we want to
look after Northern Ireland and if
we want to treat Northern Ireland as
a full and equal part of the UK, you
can't have different rules for them
and us. The only way of having a
frictionless border seems to me to
stay in some kind of customs union,
probably the one we are currently
in. David Davis is saying that we
have to have regulatory alignment.
The EU wants a level playing field.
You can't have countries who are
supposed to be trading freely with
you suddenly cheating and having
makes the front of the FT. Mihir
were saying people thought of him as
a Eurosceptic. He was Europe
minister under John Major. That was
why he was appointed. But your boss,
Iain Duncan Smith, has said we may
have reached the point where we have
to walk away from the talks because
there is no way that we in the
Conservative Party, MPs of his ilk,
will accept staying in the customs
union, even if you call it something
The extreme Brexiters do not
speak for the Tory party. And the
idea of walking away and leaving the
issue of Northern Ireland unsolved
is not a view of all the Tory party
or the whole of Parliament.
we walk away, are we not responsible
for some of our liabilities? We
can't say, we are not paying
anything, and off we go. Look at the
We have to respect
the referendum. We have to try to
leave the EU on good terms. If it
turns out that things are changing,
and David Davis seems to be
realising that the political
decision to leave the single market
and customs union, which was not
something people voted on, may need
to be rethought, that is
responsible. But we must not abandon
Northern Ireland or abandon the
peace process that is so precious on
the island of Ireland.
Let's move on
to the sports page of the Guardian,
Winter Olympics ban for Russia over
doping. It is a banner up to a
point. Some might say it is the
wisdom of Solomon. What is your take
It has finally been done.
They didn't do it for the previous
games. The head of the International
Olympic Committee, a German, was
very close to putting and therefore
didn't do it. But now they have done
it. Even then, Russian athlete who
can prove they are keen can take
part, but not under the Russian
flag, under the Olympic flag. Which
is close to the EU anthem, so we
will hear a lot of that. Maybe Jacob
Rees Mogg should have a word.
we could do what those football
players were doing in the US in
protest. We could have something
equivalent when they play the Ode To
This is something sport has not
come to grips with properly. We know
there is doping. Sport is always
trying to say we are on the moral
high ground, and jet they don't take
the decision. Welcome as it is, this
is a late decision.
You would have
had a total ban, would you?
have had a total ban.
But isn't it
hard for the athletes...
state-sponsored doping. That means
the state is helping you. You have
to bear responsibility.
The IOC is
also considering that these are
excellent athletes, and if you want
to have a meaningful Olympic Games
and you have athletes who can prove
they have done nothing wrong, maybe
there is a case for saying to them,
you can participate. And others who
might otherwise be tempted to do
something they should not be doing
will think twice, because there are
consequences. It is right that you
have this decisive action. But maybe
we have a bit of carrot and stick
here. The carrot is, if you are
Some of them they believe,
if we tinker with the edges, we can
get away with it.
Let's move on to
the Times and something people will
not get away with, this
extraordinary story. It makes you
wonder whether this has been fed to
the papers because of the critical
report into MI5 and the Abedi case,
the suicide bomber in Manchester.
That is possible. The Abedi case and
the Khalid Masood, boasts of those
were possibly missed opportunities,
but thousands of people are under
surveillance and you can't be
everywhere at all times. But we are
seeing that two men have been
charged with allegedly plotting to
blow up the Prime Minister. That is
really serious. They have also taken
the opportunity to let us know that
nine other terrorist plots have been
foiled in the last 12 months. So
although it is awful that some of
them have not been foiled, the
police and security services are
working tirelessly to protect us and
are doing a good job, succeeding in
We should also look at
whether they have enough resources.
In the Abedi case and some others,
it seems that they were going to
talk to him, but later on. Maybe the
week after. Maybe there is a
question of how much resources we
are devoted to something that is a
very serious issue.
That is a valid
point, but however much resources
you put into it, there is also the
legal problem. Even if you suspect
something, you have to have
meaningful evidence before you can
And if you overreact,
you almost create a win for those
who don't like this country, because
you change the way this country does
We should be proud of the
freedoms we have and we don't have a
Indeed. We have a less
flattering picture of Theresa May
here with scotch egg on her face!
This is a story about train fare
rises. Do you feel bled dry or do
you not use the train?
I do use the
train. In the last decade, trains
have changed enormously in this
For the better?
better. And often, I go by train
instead of driving. But there is the
serious issue of how much we should
pay in fares.
If you are on
Southern, I don't think you would be
complacent about this. The cost of
train fares for people who commute,
they can't afford to live in the big
cities, they are living further out
and now you have the train fare
rises by more than wages. 3.4% fare
rises. Train fares are tied to RPI,
the retail prices index, which is
higher than the CPI. Benefits are
tied to the CPI. Lots of areas where
you might earn more op-ed the CPI.
Let's align the two.
A bit of
regulatory alignment! Maybe that
will catch on. Ros Altmann and Mihir
Bose, thank you so much.
That's it for The Papers tonight.
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Thank you both.