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My guest on meet the author this
week is historian Norman Davies who
leaves his usual European territory
to navigate the world in a global
journey into history.
Hello and welcome to our look ahead
to what the the papers will be
bringing us tomorrow.
Our guests joining me tonight
are the political commentator
Jo Phillips and Nigel Nelson,
of the Sunday Mirror.
The Mail on Sunday reports
that Theresa May had
to intervene in a stand up row
between the Defence
and Foreign Secretaries
in the House of Commons
The Observer leads with a warning
that the EU is under
pressure NOT to give the UK a better
trade deal than other non-member
countries get after Brexit.
The Sunday Express says leading
Brexit supporting MPs want the UK
to make clear it will walk away
from any trade deal they don't
think is good enough.
The Sunday Telegraph goes
with tensions within the Cabinet
over the meaning of the commitments
the Prime Minister made to move
the Brexit talks on.
And the Sunday Mirror reports that
some delivery drivers
are working 14 hour days,
and earning less
than the minimum wage.
Let's dip in to some of those.
Plenty of Brexit to mull over. Take
us to the Observer, their front page
talking about trade deal talks that
will follow what emerged in the last
There's nothing like
puncturing somebody's party balloon,
is there? What a week, there we were
on a knife edge, the DUP looking as
if they were going to blow up that
particular balloon, then everything
goes fine and the Observer have come
up with an unnamed source, an EU
source close to the talks, who is an
official. They go on to say, as he
just said in the headlines, we have
been approached by a number of
nonmember countries expressing
concerns and making it clear it
would constitute a major problem if
suddenly the UK were to get better
terms than they got. You can
understand where they're coming
from, but frankly if this is based
on one unnamed source, unofficial,
it's not much of a story.
right. The deals that have been done
with other countries obviously are
specifically for other countries,
Japan, Australia, New Zealand, the
one that takes our fancy if we don't
go the Norway route would be Canada.
At the moment, Canada just goods, so
we would really like a Canada plus,
so we can have services in there.
That's the most important thing, if
we don't have services we don't have
much of a deal anyway.
the arguments, as you say, from
those outside is that if we now see
a better deal being done by someone
else, albeit somebody a very
different situation geographically
and in recent terms, historically,
they may want to renegotiate their
I think that is the
argument. If you have a country that
wants to join, who is going through
the slow process of becoming a
member or partial member, or getting
to the stage of becoming a member,
if they see us coming out looking
like we've got a jolly good deal,
that might put them off.
danger is, if it was New Zealand and
we ended up on World Trade
Organisation rules, we would want a
load of New Zealand's land quota, so
it may not actually go quite so well
for other countries if we ended up
in that situation.
Take us to the
Sunday Telegraph, going with Brexit
as well, this time talking about the
Cabinet truce threatening to
The argument here is that
Michael Gove and Boris Johnson, key
Brexiteers in Cabinet, were bought
off in the sense of, they would
support Theresa made's breakthrough
on Friday, on the basis that it
doesn't actually mean a great deal.
So we had this wonderful alignment
is nothing about, and according to
the Telegraph, full alignment does
not mean a thing. No legal basis, we
don't have to care. I think that
might be a bit of a
misunderstanding. The whole issue of
the Irish border at the moment, now
described as kicking McCann down the
road, but what we have actually done
in Scott McCarron in the right part
the road. The Irish border should
never have been discussed one. --
what we have done is got the can in
the right part of the road.
The question really comes down to,
do we follow EU rules as we do now,
which means we followed the process,
or if Theresa May Sallai, do we
follow... We don't follow EU rules,
but we arrive at the same
destination? -- if Theresa May gets
her way. While we are a member of
the EU, we must take each rule
step-by-step and obey it. The
argument is probably can get to an
open border by going a different
Is that you're reading of it?
Pretty much, that was fairly
I wasn't quite sure
where the can was at one point, but
I'm with you otherwise!
around the curve in Nigel's head...
Is it an Irish road? An Irish lane?
It's now a phase two lay-by.
as long as we're not going up a
The mail on Sunday, I
think I may have said Boris Johnson
in the intro but I didn't mean it, I
meant Mr Hammond.
This is lovely.
Never mind Cabinet Brexit truce
threatens to unravel... This is
Gavin Williams, some may not be
familiar with him. He is the new
Defence Secretary. He allegedly went
head-to-head with Philip Hammond and
had a furious bust up in the Commons
and the Prime Minister had to step
in and say, stop behaving like
children or cricketers and pull
ourselves together and be sensible.
Interestingly, political editor of
the mail on Sunday has done a really
interesting piece on Gavin
Williamson inside, because it's
quite clear there is a huge loss of
bad blood between the Defence
Secretary and Philip Hammond, the
Chancellor, who of course was a
Defence Secretary. Simon Walters has
done this piece where he compares
Gavin Williamson and he is meteoric
rise -- his meteoric rise to John
Major under Thatcher. He is asking
the question, a month ago, the idea
of Gavin Williamson succeeding
Theresa May if she stands down in
March 2019 would have been dismissed
as a joke. Look at now. He has gone
from wit, his feet under the MoD,
launched a one-man publicity blitz,
picked a fight with the Chancellor,
he has saved two military dogs from
being put down on last week said all
Britons who fought for Isis should
be killed. He is obviously out there
to get the headlines. I just wonder,
I know he's a whip...
Or was a whip.
And if you were a whip, you tend to
make one or two people unhappy along
And you know where all the
skeletons are, so you have a bit of
I don't think Williamson
has had a great week. He had a
comeback, suggesting you should
start shooting IS fighters, wherever
they may be. Saving the two dogs was
a plus. But he's also now lost his
tarantula, because it turns out it
contravenes MoD pet policy, and MoD
pet policy is no pets. So the
tarantula has had to go. His week
has not ended on a high note.
afraid it is now so publicly known
that apparently somebody in the
Treasury refers to him as Pike,
Everyone in the MoD is
now referring to him as Private
Which the mail on Sunday
picked up on. With their little
photo of lavender, and John Murray
of course, who played Frasier. The
Sunday Times. This is fast track
degrees... Sorry, this is the
Yes, good idea, this one.
Comes from Joe Johnson, universities
minister. What he's trying to do is
reduce the time people need to take
their degrees from three years to
two. The idea is it will save you a
whole lot of money because you don't
have to pay extra tuition for the
last year, that's £5,500. You would
need a maintenance loan for the last
year, what Joe Johnson says is...
You will also be out earning a year
This is the point. He says
25,000 is what a student will save
by that of sleight of hand because
19,000 of it is the average wage of
graduate gets in their first year
away from university.
assumption that you will learn that
in your first
Broadley, not a bad idea. The idea
is it will be available in every
subject rather than just if you,
like accountancy, Law, journalism,
and it gives students a chance to
get through it in those two years
and it would certainly be cheaper.
Actually, there are an awful lot of
students who are feeling that they
are not getting value for money,
particularly when you look at the
walloping great salary that so many
vice chancellors and senior
university staff are getting. Also
for mature students, before the
family commitments and things, a two
year commitment, over and done with,
get out early, perhaps much better.
It makes you wonder why somebody
under that system would still opt to
do every year.
The way the Joe
Johnson puts it, it's tradition. We
are so used to the idea that a
university course is three years,
that people have not thought about
trying to do it in two. Obviously,
doing it in two means a lot more
hard work, it does cost 20% more a
year to go and do, but it does seem
sensible if you could make it kind
of fashionable, it is something that
And employers would be
happy as well.
It does come in the
wake of the National Audit Office
report which says so many degrees,
so many poor quality degrees, have
left many graduates with very low
earning potential. 11 people who did
not go to university.
I nearly went
to the Sunday Times early but I will
go there now. This is civil
partnerships to go straight, this is
effectively mooted for a while?
Exactly, it's a campaign that
heterosexual couples have been
campaigning for, to bring them in
line with homosexual couples,
because people who don't necessarily
want to get married, heterosexual
couples, up till now can't do it.
This is now a Private bill setting
out the changes to bring everything
into alignment, quite why they
didn't do it in the first place,
Lord alone knows. It does seem as
though it has good backing, and it
is as we say something that has been
long campaigned for. It would also
help stabilise families. It would
give people who live together who
previously had not wanted to get
married, it would actually put them
on a more equal footing and would
make life a lot easier in terms of
pensions and wills and things like
It's also a matter of
reason heterosexual couples could
not have this is because it was
reserved exclusively for same-sex
couples, on the basis that same-sex
couples could not get married. Now
they can, both things should be
available to all.
Doubters, there is
one quoted, Andrew Williams might
it's not helpful, making do with a
very pale reflection of marriage.
They may well think that the people
living together with no protection
in law as an even worse reflection,
and as Nigel says, it's not equal.
Should we finish with Christmas
this was your choice.
choice was a scantily clad man
getting out of the sea...
it's a bit later, after the
watershed! The Sunday Telegraph has
a photograph of the Prime Minister,
with a Christmas tree, and a
hilarious little tag line, special
There she is,
putting what apparently...
ornamental stiletto. It is the tree
she devoted herself, apparently, to
her local church. I must say, it's
actually a very nice photograph.
Whatever you think
about code politicians, they do work
very hard. You know perfectly well
she's not had a minute to herself,
and I think it's very nice
And she's smiling a lot,
but then you would, wouldn't you?
She has seen her premiership
survival of the last minute. Could
have been very different.
And it may
change by Monday.
Even in an hour's time it may.
That's it for The Papers this hour.
Thank you Jo and Nigel,
you'll both be back at half 11
for another look at the stories
making the news tomorrow.
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