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Jake Gill and hall stars in

Stronger. His life is changed

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drastically since the Boston

bombing. -- Gyllenhall. Coming up in

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the Phil Review. -- Film.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are the political

commentator Jo Phillips

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and Nigel Nelson, political editor

of the Sunday Mirror.

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Tomorrow's front pages,

starting with...

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The Mail on Sunday reports that

Theresa May had to intervene

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in a stand up row between

the Defence Secretary

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and the Chancellor in

the House of Commons.

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The Observer leads with a warning

that the EU is under pressure not

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to give the UK a better trade deal

than other non-member countries

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get after Brexit.

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The Sunday Express says leading

Brexit supporting Mps want the UK

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to make clear it will walk away

from any trade deal they don't think

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is good enough.

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The Sunday Telegraph goes

with tensions within the Cabinet

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over the meaning of the commitments

the Prime Minister made to move

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the Brexit talks on.

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And the Sunday Mirror reports that

some delivery drivers are working 14

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hour days, it claims they're earning

less than the minimum wage.

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Let keep off this hour with the

Sunday express front page.

This is a

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report that the Brexiteers are

demanding the Theresa May should

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have demanded goldplated trade deal.

If we don't get one then we say no

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more money and that's the end of it.

In other words, a straightforward no

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deal and we would walk away. I'm not

sure you can get away with doing no

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money. You can probably do less

money. On the basis that if we did

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walk away, we would have to do it

before 2019 when we're due to leave.

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One assumes the transition period

wouldn't go ahead, you would save

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£20 billion that way. We would

probably have to carry on paying for

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pensions as part of our obligations.

Interesting about the story is we

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are getting to the next stage,

really, which is what we actually

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want? The one thing Michel Barnier,

Jean-Claude Juncker, Donald Tusk,

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all of them have been frustrated

that Britain won't come forward with

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actually what we think the endgame

is. Theresa May has a Brexit walk

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cabinet coming up to thrash it out

but it is quite important now that

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when we go back to Europe, we have a

clear idea of how we see our

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relationship after Brexit which we

haven't got.

The Sunday Express is

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quite a leash. They have them over

of Durrell. -- bullish.

This is what

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the Eurosceptics are clinging onto.

-- barrel. That we did show signs to

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collaborate after the collapse of

the TU P. That is to be welcomed if

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you to anything in an negotiation.

-- DUP. They seem to think that just

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because we have got to this stage

then we can turn around to the EU in

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six months or 18 months' Time and

say actually we won't pay you. This

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is already cementing, as if it needs

any more cement, the hard lines

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between the Brexiteers and the

Remainers. It all comes down to this

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thing, in the event of no deal, the

UK will maintain full alignment with

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the customs union and the single

market when it comes to the Irish

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border. And continuing to abide by

all of the EU's will. It is all

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about semantics. It is a positive

headline for the Prime Minister,

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probably, but very...

The full

alignment phrase, moving on, Texas

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to the Sunday Telegraph. Much

reference there about the talk in

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the Cabinet. -- takes us to the

Sunday Telegraph.

If you can say

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that by sending Boris Johnson to

Iran, that keep him out of the way,

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that is one way of looking at it.

There is a problem between the

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Brexiteers and the Remainers. The

Brexiteers are so keen to walk away

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from Europe that they would almost,

you know, do anything just to be

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able to say, we have done it, we

have done it, we are out of Europe,

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regardless of the consequences. That

comes back to the point that Nigel

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made that it is difficult for the

Prime Minister and the negotiating

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team and it is not just David Davis,

it is an army of civil servants and

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lawyers and what have you. It is

difficult for them to go there if it

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is not clear what we want.

Now we

get to the next stage which is we

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ought to be honest because if we can

lay on the table, at the moment,

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we're not saying anything. We are

arguing that we must keep

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negotiating position close to a

chest. Now we are moving into trade

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talks and the question is why should

we? Let's say this is what we want,

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we then negotiate to get there and

see how far we go but at least if

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you utterly knew what we were going

towards... We would speed up the

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negotiations but it would be the

best way of helping both sides come

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to some kind of deal.

Because they

have been negotiating on these three

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issues which we have gotten past, to

a degree, only now would it be the

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right moment to say this is what we

want in the future. If that is their

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argument? S there is a point you

have to take it step-by-step and I

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always knew Northern Ireland will be

a major sticking point.

-- there is

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a point you have to take. You have

to do a bit by bit but you have to

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know what your endgame is.

Talking

of truces or not, Nigel, this is the

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Mail on Sunday which is talking

about a bust up.

This was an all out

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war and it was between the Defence

Secretary David Williamson and the

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Chancellor Philip Hammond. According

to the Mail on Sunday, their

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simmering feud, as they put it,

turned into a full-scale shouting

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match. Dependent on which side you

listen to, it seems that Gavin

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Williamson thinks the Chancellor

wants to cut the army down to

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50,000. The chancellor says he

doesn't want to do this at all. We

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then get insults thrown both ways.

They went toe to toe in the Commons.

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It sounds like dancing.

The

Chancellor calls Gavin Williamson...

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I don't think it is the Chancellor,

I think it is people in his

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department.

This is his description

of him.

Pike as in Dad's Army.

The

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stupid boy. We have this full-scale

row and the backdrop to this, of

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course, is whether or not Gavin

Williamson is thinking in terms of

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succeeding Theresa May when she

finally goes.

Well! And neat segue.

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Simon Walters, political editor of

the Mail on Sunday has actually done

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exactly this and point out the

remarkable similarity between the

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Gavin Williamson's meteoric rise

into the Cabinet to that is John

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Major in 1990. Then you had Margaret

Thatcher with the blonde bombshell

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Michael Heseltine seen as her net --

natural successor. She would have

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rather had anything happen than

that. Now you have the same with

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Gavin Williamson. Interestingly, it

is said in other reports that he has

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now aligned himself with Boris

Johnson and Michael Gove, giving a

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majority, albeit a slim one, to the

Brexiteers in the Cabinet. You know,

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he is siding with dubious people.

Let's move on and talk of other

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things. Among them, fast tracked

degrees. It takes us back to the

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Telegraph and it is the suggestion

that they ought to be two-year

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degrees rather than three.

Yes, I

think a lot of people would think it

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is a jolly good idea. Now, this is

not least of all, it would save a

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considerable amount of money. It

would also get people into

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employment a lot quicker. But I

think what is significant is that

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this is about universities having to

offer more value for money.

It is as

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well as three.

Exactly. But it is a

choice you can take and it will be

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unveiled by the government tomorrow,

and Joe Johnson who is the

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universities minister thinks it is

skewed in favour of traditional

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degrees and offers a pitifully low

number of courses. This comes at a

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time when there is an enormous fury

over the vast salaries being paid to

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vice chancellors and senior

university staff. Because if you

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introduce fees, you are then putting

students in the role of consumers

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and therefore they will expect more

for their money. This is a good way

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of seeing whether they can get it.

The figure suggested is quite

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significant.

It is suggesting that

it would save the students £25,000.

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It is a bit of a sleight of hand

because you would save 5500 on

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tuition fees although you would be

paying 20% more for each year. That

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it still gives you 5500 and you get

this extra money besides you won't

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have to take out a maintenance loan

fee of third-year is the fact that

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most students get a job afterwards.

19,000 is the average amount.

I will

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squeeze to mooring in the last 2.5

minutes. Civil partnerships to go

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straight. Something that has been

speculated upon for a while.

Indeed.

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Again, absolutely right. A private

members bill. The idea is to try and

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basically bring the law into line

for both heterosexual and homosexual

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couples. Very sensible. It should

have been done a while ago. The only

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reason that heterosexual couples

couldn't enter into civil

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partnerships was the argument that

gay couples were in civil

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partnerships because they couldn't

get married and of course now they

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can get married and this is simply a

matter of equality so everyone's

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then can either have a civil

partnership or get married.

And it's

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sensible for all those reasons but

also it actually makes it a lot

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easier for cohabiting couples to put

things on a much better footing in

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terms of pension rights and wheels,

property. -- wills to stop people

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make the mistake that because people

have lived together for 100 years

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they are treated as a married couple

and they are not. -- wills. It is

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Charles Keaton and Rebecca Stone

fell to have their case held next

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year. I know we shouldn't promote

other channels but those of us in

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political circles are familiar with

the political editor of ITN. On

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first-class, I thought this was Tom

Bradley. I'm sure it's not, but it

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is a man dressing after apparently

emerging...

Thomas is that mad.

He

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was probably looking at Brexit. Why

would you go into the Serpentine in

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Hyde Park in any freezing

temperatures yesterday in London? I

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don't know but it is a good

photograph and the lady next to him

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looks like she is ignoring it and

she is quite used to seeing it.

She

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is more appropriately dressed.

Have

either of you being tempted at this

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time of year?

Know but I do live on

the coast and date to have a friend

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who goes swimming at least once a

week regardless of the weather.

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Hasn't appeared yet on the front of

the Sunday Times.

It is not

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newsworthy.

That is it for the

papers this hour. Thanks to Jo and

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Nigel.

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Coming up next, it's

the Film Review.

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