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Hello and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are Kate Proctor,

Political reporter at

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the London Evening Standard

and the broadcaster John Stapleton.

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And Manchester City fan... Always a

pleasure to have you on the show,

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especially after the weekend we've

had.

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The Metro leads with

"President Trump is a pervert" ,

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reporting that 16 women allege

the 45th President

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sexually assaulted them.

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The I describes new research

into Huntingdon's disease

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as the biggest breakthrough in brain

science for 50 years.

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The FT's front page picks up

on the attempted bomb

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attack in New York...

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While the Mirror reports

on the forecast drop

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in temperatures tonight.

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Saying Britain is expected

to be colder than Moscow.

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The Daily Telegraph says rail

passengers are being denied

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the right to book cheap travel

for Christmas, and the

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The Guardian reports that a senior

QC has said the Grenfell Tower fire

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was a "national atrocity"

with warnings being ignored.

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The Times picks a report

coming out tomorrow,

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urging the government to toughen

rules on social media groups that

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fail to stop online abuse.

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And finally The Daily Mail reports

that a former Facebook boss

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has said the company

is 'ripping society apart'.

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Start with the daily Mirror,

apparently it will be colder than

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Moscow overnight. That's pretty

cold.

That is really cold, and I

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grew up in Cumbria, and I didn't

even get down to those temperatures

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when I was young. -15, that's

freezing, we've already seen the

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chaos caused over the last 24 hours

because of the snowfall. Tomorrow

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morning will be a really difficult

morning for drivers, they will have

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very icy roads and I expect you will

have school closures as well for

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another day.

I know, I know. I know

I sound like an old soul and so when

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I say this but she was brought up in

Cumbria, I was brought up in Bolton,

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at the top of the Pennines, I don't

remember a single day when our

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school was closed. Our old Grammar

School in Oldham. I know times have

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changed, health and safety rules the

world, kids are understandably

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scared of slipping. In our day, you

slipped and fell, tough bananas. And

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we all got by. I was slightly

snowbound at the weekend, a

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wonderful party in Oxfordshire and I

couldn't help thinking, we have had

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two or three days of this and still

motorways closed, trains don't run.

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I know it's not the easiest job in

the world, and I'm sure many did

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their level best to keep the country

running but you do think, why does

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this not happen in Poland, in

Norway, in Scandinavia?

They spend a

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lot more on gritters and are a bit

more in control, frankly. The front

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page of the Telegraph, it talks

about slow keeping schools shut for

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second days as teachers are told not

to travel. That's part of the

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problem, teachers can't get in.

They

don't always necessarily live near

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the schools, its rate you would have

all the teachers live in one town

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one village. It might not just be

that it's cold, you cannot get staff

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into the school. That seems like a

pretty reasonable reason why you

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would have to close a school down.

But parents, it's really difficult

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because lots of them might have to

be slipping in a day 's holiday just

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before the Christmas holiday so they

can look after their children.

It's

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a tricky one. We are going to go to

the Telegraph. Dosages denied cheap

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Christmas rail tickets. If we are

going to get stuff over when it

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comes to the cost of travel, it will

be Christmas time.

A 4% increase

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coming in after Christmas for all

rail journeys. They have increased

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dramatically the last couple of

years, we know that. The prices are

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steep, they have gone up

dramatically in the last few years

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or so it seems, a very interesting

report by a government watchdog

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committee, the official watchdog

committee, saying rail passengers

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are being denied the chance to buy

cheap tickets for the Christmas

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break by train companies that

routinely mislead them. One of the

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things they allege is that they did

not make all the advance tickets

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available, did not make public the

fact these advance tickets were

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available, which are cheaper. But

also they were selling tickets for

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trains that could not make the

journey they were supposed to make.

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A couple of examples quoted, a great

Western Railway ticket being on sale

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in early October direct London

Paddington services running on

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December the 27th, well, that can't

happen on December 27, Paddington is

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shut. Actually selling tickets for

journeys that they could not

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possibly make, at least not without

changing, or taking buses as well.

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The rail companies, the six big

ones...

Network Rail always the

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bogeyman, always. It is always

blamed. They have some huge

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engineering works happening over

Christmas holidays, so £160 million

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worth of engineering works going on

over the Christmas holidays around

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London and Manchester. That will

affect so many people. All of this

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will feed well into what the

government is pushing for, which is

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to switch Network Rail and the train

companies together. To bring track

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and train together. The first phase

this will be rolled out as the East

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Coast Main line, who knows in the

future whether that will improve

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things?

The reason people are being

misled, is that Network Rail did not

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tell them, the rail companies, about

their final plans. Therefore they

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sold these tickets hoping the works

would be completed when they were

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indeed.

There's always someone else

to blame. Front page of The Times,

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and executing web giants for abuse,

Mae urges, treating social media

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giants as publishers.

This has come

up before. We have crossbench peers

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compiling this report, which will be

delivered to the government

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tomorrow. He says you need to treat

Facebook and all the big social

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media giants as publishers, which

means so far, some would say they

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have got out of various

responsibilities because they

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describe themselves as platforms. If

you are a publisher, it means you

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end up having all sorts of

responsibilities.

Like us.

Exactly.

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This obviously is a good step

forward but I think what is next is

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what kind of sanctions you will see

on these companies.

And how do them

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do it? How do you make them

efficient, to make sure every

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inappropriate message...

These

companies are having to hire

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thousands of staff to cope with

their obligations already so if the

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government were to take this forward

and actually make them come

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publishers, they would have a vast

amount of scrutiny on what was being

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put on their websites all the time.

They can afford it. Most of them.

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This is just the start of this, I

the home affairs Select Committee is

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also looking into this, and might be

taking some evidence from some of

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these big social media companies in

the next week. For Christmas I think

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we will see a lot of this in

Parliament.

Plastics aid, front page

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of The Times.

A suggestion that

Michael Gove is going to push for

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more of Britain's overseas aid

budget. More of that should be spent

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trying to reduce plastic pollution

in the oceans after a study found

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90% of the waste came from ten

rivers in Asia. This will strike a

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chord with people watching Blue

Planet. And the Daily Mail has had a

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big campaign on this. It really is

horrifying to see what this does to

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see life. Arguably, it is a good

cause.

Yeah, I think it's a great

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idea. You don't think about the

cycling really happening in other

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parts of the world, you only know

about what you do yourself. --

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recycling. The idea you would start

encouraging other countries as part

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of an aid investment, and aid

payments, would actually be quite

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effective probably.

It might assuage

some critics of foreign aid as well.

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If you can make it clear that

foreign aid is useful in a

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particular way. Sad news, front page

of the Daily Mail, Keith Chegwin.

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Died at the age of 60. You knew him.

I was a GMTV, the breakfast station,

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20 years. Cheggers was at least a

decade, used to be the morning

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competitions. I don't know anyone

else could have brought those

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competitions to life in the same way

he did. He was such a barrel of

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laughs, bright ideas and cheerful.

Really a warm, generous guy, born on

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television. When that red light on

helix up. He came in every day with

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some terrific ideas. -- when that

red light came on, he lit up. He

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used to surprise people on the

doorstep, they would come down,

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teeth not in, still on their

nightwear, he would always have such

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fun and never in a demeaning or

patronising way. He knew where they

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came from and he knew where he came

from T. Really good guide, sad.

Do

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you remember him?

Not a great deal,

I'm aware of him but don't remember.

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You listen to radio four.

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Now, she was too young! That's what

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you should have said. You a united

fan or a City fan, come on, which is

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it?

Come on... I even come dressed

for the occasion.

Speaking of the

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big game... Milk eight. Back page of

the Guardian. Apparently there was a

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fracas, Mr Mourinho believed the

City players were too exuberant in

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their celebrations of that famous

victory on Saturday. Apparently

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cartons of milk were thrown.

That's

what was suggested. Apparently he

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thought the noise from the dressing

room is not respectful, and had an

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altercation with our goalkeeper,

talking in Portuguese. Then one of

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the City assistant coaches, who

played for Arsenal, received a cut

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over the eye. It seems to me a bit

of a fuss over not much frankly. You

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and I, we saw what happened after

the game, Mr Mourinho who I believe

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is becoming the Donald Trump of

soccer, a narcissist, actually a

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producer of fake news. Whenever

things go badly, what was he saying?

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We were lucky. Come on, that is

beyond parody to say Manchester City

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were lucky in that game. Then he has

to complain about cities

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celebrating? Someone tweeted a

wonderful picture of Mourinho

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celebrating like this on his knees,

and he complains about celebrating?

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Kate, Kate, what have you got to say

about all this?!

It sounds

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absolutely ridiculous.

I am being

told my earpiece apparently Mourinho

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did the same thing last season

Chelsea trounced United.

He does not

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like a celebration.

Are you a

Chelsea fan, yes, he's a Chelsea

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fan? But it does look as if the

title might be heading...

I'm not

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saying, we are too long in the

tooth.

Very true.

No more football.

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OK, I have let you had your time.

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That's it for THE PAPERS tonight.

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Don't forget you can see the front

pages of the papers online

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on the BBC News website.

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It's all there for you -

seven days a week at bbc dot co uk

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forward slash papers -

and if you miss the programme any

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evening you can watch it

later on BBC iPlayer.

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Thank you Kate Proctor

and John Stapleton.

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Goodbye.

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