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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead

to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are Joe Watts,

Political Editor of the Independent.

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And Caroline Wheeler,

Deputy Political Editor

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of The Sunday Times.

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Tomorrow's front pages...

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The Mirror leads with the miraculous

story of a three week old baby girl

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-- born with her heart outside her

body. The first baby in the UK to

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survive this rare illness. 'Tories

go green' - the I looks at the

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Conservative governments new climate

change policies in what they call a

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push to win back younger voters and

broaden the parties appeal. The

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Metro reports on allegations that a

20-year-old woman was raped by a

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Conservative Party aide in his

office in Westminster. The Times

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reports of a scandal involving the

President of the European Commission

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Jean Claude-Junker and alleged

evidence tampering. The Guardian

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leads on its exclusive story

detailing how some big companies are

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paying intelligence firms to monitor

groups that challenge their

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business. The Telegraph leads with a

warning to households and motorists

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to expect a sharp rise in gas and

petrol prices. The Express says the

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Prime Minister is enjoying a boost

in the polls after her Brexit

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negotiation breakthrough.. And...

The Daily Mail says that Social

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Media giants Facebook and Twitter

helped fuel abuse towards

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Conservative Party candidates in the

last general election. What is the

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story about in the Guardian?

The

Guardian appears to have been

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leaked, along with a another news

organisation, a cache of documents,

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suggesting that it is not just the

police force involved in the illicit

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espionage, but private companies are

doing this too. Not just spying on

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each other but buying on people who

perhaps are making choices to take

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those companies to court or campaign

against them or protest against

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them. Or perhaps even, you know,

encourage consumer activity against

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them as well. There are a string of

really big name companies that are

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involved in this. Companies like

British Airways, the Royal Bank of

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Scotland. Within the detail of these

documents, come all of the ways in

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which these companies are spying on

those individuals.

Caroline, at one

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point the police have claimed that

commercial firms have had more spies

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in bed in political groups than

there were undercover police

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officers!

Basically they have

infiltrated campaign groups that

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have been opposed to some of the

actions that these big corporate

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firms have been undertaking in, and

posed as activists themselves. In

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one instance, the infiltrate is

pretended to be activists

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sympathetic to the cause of the

campaigners, helping to organise and

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attending demonstrations, including

on one occasion dressing up as a

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pirate with a Cutlass and an eye

patch as part of a protest! These

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are extraordinary length that these

organisations are going to to sort

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of infiltrate and find out what it

is that people who are opposed to

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the goods are kind of worried about.

It shows you the level of concern

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that there is around the kind of

protest that we have seen

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surrounding these big, multinational

corporations.

We know it made people

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really angry, the story quite

recently about police forces

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infiltrating undercover green

groups. There was one case in

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particular where a police officer

out of relationships with other

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activists, was leading a real double

life. The question is, you know, it

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does stay in the story that the

activity is much more widespread

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than people would have expected. The

question is, how long have these

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undercover operations been going

on's have they been playing with

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people's lives in the same weight as

white interesting stuff.

Tories go

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green to win back voters. I remember

hugging the house the end the North

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Pole, David Cameron. And then it all

got junk. Well, apparently is coming

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back on the Michael Gove, who is

trying to almost arrange the image

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of the Department of environment and

getting out there and hitting back

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on social media -- change the image.

What do you make of this, joke?

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There is a Cameroonian feel to this,

after the Theresa May drive we are

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coming back to the fluffy,

compassionate Conservative deal with

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this drive, anyway. I think this is

a reaction to what happened in the

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election. A lot of young voters

completely deserted the Tories for

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the Labour Party. And a lot of that

was to do with not this is the only

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particular policies or tuition fees,

but just the way the Tory Party was

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promoting its values. Going back to

much more kind of Conservative,

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socially Conservative values, away

from Cameroonian Liberal

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Conservative feel. After being burnt

on things like fox hunting, the

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ivory trade during the election,

this is a real push back to try and

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win some of that.

You can sense that

they don't want to go back to being

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the nasty party, a sense that they

have been sort of uncaring and they

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want to become the kind of, very

sympathetic and loving and animal

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loving, you know, other things they

are going to focus on our school

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standards, there was a sense that

they lost some of the mummy vote at

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the time, it's not just the

environment. As with everything,

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there's been a bit of a backlash

around the whole rebranding that was

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going on. It's one of the things

they are definitely going to ditch.

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For me, it doesn't sit with the new,

caring party, because they are not

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making a big thing of the NHS. They

seem to have decided that actually

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they can't win on the NHS. One would

imagine that investing in the NHS

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would make you be the most caring.

That is the problem. When you poll

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people, the NHS is up there and the

environment is not the top issue. I

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remember someone was saying that

after blue planet on Sunday, lots of

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tweets from Tory MPs, quite similar

stuff. It's a co-ordinated thing

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that they are trying to deep.

And

not everyone is happy about it. Not

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all MPs... One MP told me the other

day that they don't get any letters

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really about animals at all other

than bees. And actually it hasn't

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made much of an impact in the sort

of mailbags. And also talking about

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school standards, it's not school

standards which has been bugging

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mums, it's school funding. Some of

this seems a bit kind of misguided.

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It's about positioning the party.

How much of it about positioning

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Michael Gove?!

Indeed! Looking at

the policies that the Tory Party has

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brought forward since the election

and the policies that Michael Gove

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has brought forward, he has won to

be fair to him, some plaudits from

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green groups, who have said, you

know, it's good at least that we

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have a Secretary of State that is

looking at the right things. We

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still waiting to see the proof, the

piece of legislation he is

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promising, whether that is going to

come through. If you look at the

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policies that Theresa May announced

week, which has formed the platform

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for the new PR push, they are not

that the revolutionary than what was

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announced this week. There was a big

PR push on this. Whether it actually

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follows through is yet to be seen.

Let's have a look at the FT. Talking

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about the Conservative Party, the

picture of Damian Green. He is still

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awaiting that inquiry into his

alleged behaviour, saying here,

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Theresa May has got to pep up the

top team. And the Brexit deal blow.

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Do you think it is a glow, Caroline,

after the Brexit deal?! The

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Government,

the basking in the glow

of success, this wasn't the story

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that we were discussing last week

when everything was going horribly

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wrong.

I think it's safe to say it's

a bit volatile.

This could easily

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set fire to the paper!

The crisis

has almost become the new norm with

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this Government. Normally you would

get political crises and they would

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last for days and days. You can have

very turbulent days and then it is

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like you in a new country the next

day. They pick themselves up and

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move on. This story is saying,

things are all right, by contract,

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maybe now she is strong enough to

carry out the reshuffle which has

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really been on the cards pretty much

for months.

Will she wait to the New

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Year?

Most Tory MPs will tell you

they do not expect her to last

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beyond Brexit anyway.

There is a

talk about the younger generation

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being brought in in some weight.

There is.

Lots of talking about

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that.

Looking about as off at the

picture, there is a big question

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mark hanging over some of the older

members of the party. There can be

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no reshuffle until we know what

Damian Green's fate is going to be.

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If he is going to be forced to

resign, there has been some chatter

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that that is the direction of

travel, although it seems to ebb and

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flow every week this saga goes on,

she cannot do anything and all that

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is decided. What she doesn't want to

happen is that she saves him and

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there's more revelations and he is.

William Hague has said very clearly,

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-- he is false to go again. He says,

you need to start really elevating

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some of those people in the junior

ministerial positions and stamped

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your authority.

She has been trying

to get William Hague did come back,

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and he has refused to so far.

Let's

move the times. Rob Tait will be

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beamed to dashboards. Joe, what's

this about -- Road data.

Everything

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has to be smart these days, you

can't just have a manually operated

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thing. You can't have a motorway to

just drive along! This with the

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hundreds of miles of fibre-optic

cable buried alongside motorways.

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Through this fibre-optic cable in

the wizardry of broadband, you would

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be able to beam into driverless cars

all of the information about

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traffic, speed limits, no doubt it

could probably direct your car where

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to go to avoid the worst traffic

jams and make sure that you avoiding

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ice patches. I mean, it is exciting,

it does feel very futuristic.

What

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could go wrong?!

This is also the

point, it is preparing the way for

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these driverless cars. The

Government is really, really keen on

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this as an idea and think that we

can lead the way on it. The

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technology, however, there is

question marks even around smart

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meters and things like that. So

actually having cars on the roads

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that could be potentially open to

hacking and all of those things, I'm

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sure that they will do all of those

tests, but it is one of those things

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that you look so many things could

potentially go wrong, lights being

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flashed at you and things on your

dashboard, it sounds very back to

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the future.

We need to get with it!

We are going to talk about the

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Independent next. Almost half of

British people want Donald Trump's

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state visit scrap, according to a

poll. It doesn't sound very popular.

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But the state visit seems to be on

the back burner. A working visit to

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London might be happening.

There is

an indication, including from the US

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ambassador today, that the working

visit, as it is being called, to

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open the new US embassy could go

ahead in February. But the polling

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that we had done even shows that

around half of people are against

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from coming in any capacity. But the

state visit really riles people

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because it involves the Queen and

all of the pomp and ceremony and

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giving the huge honours for the

president. In her heart of hearts,

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even Theresa May regrets making and

I'm sure she regrets making the

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picture of herself on the White

House lawn hand-in-hand with Trump.

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It seems a long time ago. The state

visit is not going to happen any

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time soon, is it?

I think the state

visit has now been postponed. It is

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usually something that presidents

get in the second term. It was

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always going to be quite

controversial this idea that it was

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going to be a great expansion and

visit given to him. The working

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visit, as I understand Joe said

correctly, I understand it is at the

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end of February. But the actual

state visit I think will now be in

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2019. In 2019, she may well not be

Prime Minister any longer. I don't

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know what the protocol is on this.

From maybe impeached by then as

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well.

Let's have a look at Star

Wars, the premiere of the latest

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film. Are you a Star Wars fan?

I am,

yes, ever since I was very, very

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young, it's been part of my

upbringing. I've seen all of them, I

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had all of the toys when I was a

kid, and I massively excited about

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this.

Are you massively excited?

I

loved it when I was a little girl, I

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got my hair done as Princess Leia.

But I'm looking forward to taking my

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little boy to see it, he is wildly

excited.

It was quite a big

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premiere. Even got some royalty who

were there.

The fact that it has

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made the front of most of the papers

shows what a big deal it is and how

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it's going to beat the film that

really captures the imagination this

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Christmas.

5-star review. Thank you

very much indeed.

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That's it for The Papers tonight.

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Don't forget, you can see the front

pages of the papers online

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on the BBC News website.

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It's all there for you, seven days

a week, at bbc.co.uk/papers.

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And if you miss the programme any

evening you, can watch it

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later on BBC iPlayer.

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Thank you, Joe Watts

and Caroline Wheeler.

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Goodbye.

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