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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead
to what the the papers will be
bringing us tomorrow.
With me are Joe Watts,
Political Editor of the Independent.
And Caroline Wheeler,
Deputy Political Editor
of The Sunday Times.
Tomorrow's front pages...
The Mirror leads with the miraculous
story of a three week old baby girl
-- born with her heart outside her
body. The first baby in the UK to
survive this rare illness. 'Tories
go green' - the I looks at the
Conservative governments new climate
change policies in what they call a
push to win back younger voters and
broaden the parties appeal. The
Metro reports on allegations that a
20-year-old woman was raped by a
Conservative Party aide in his
office in Westminster. The Times
reports of a scandal involving the
President of the European Commission
Jean Claude-Junker and alleged
evidence tampering. The Guardian
leads on its exclusive story
detailing how some big companies are
paying intelligence firms to monitor
groups that challenge their
business. The Telegraph leads with a
warning to households and motorists
to expect a sharp rise in gas and
petrol prices. The Express says the
Prime Minister is enjoying a boost
in the polls after her Brexit
negotiation breakthrough.. And...
The Daily Mail says that Social
Media giants Facebook and Twitter
helped fuel abuse towards
Conservative Party candidates in the
last general election. What is the
story about in the Guardian?
Guardian appears to have been
leaked, along with a another news
organisation, a cache of documents,
suggesting that it is not just the
police force involved in the illicit
espionage, but private companies are
doing this too. Not just spying on
each other but buying on people who
perhaps are making choices to take
those companies to court or campaign
against them or protest against
them. Or perhaps even, you know,
encourage consumer activity against
them as well. There are a string of
really big name companies that are
involved in this. Companies like
British Airways, the Royal Bank of
Scotland. Within the detail of these
documents, come all of the ways in
which these companies are spying on
Caroline, at one
point the police have claimed that
commercial firms have had more spies
in bed in political groups than
there were undercover police
Basically they have
infiltrated campaign groups that
have been opposed to some of the
actions that these big corporate
firms have been undertaking in, and
posed as activists themselves. In
one instance, the infiltrate is
pretended to be activists
sympathetic to the cause of the
campaigners, helping to organise and
attending demonstrations, including
on one occasion dressing up as a
pirate with a Cutlass and an eye
patch as part of a protest! These
are extraordinary length that these
organisations are going to to sort
of infiltrate and find out what it
is that people who are opposed to
the goods are kind of worried about.
It shows you the level of concern
that there is around the kind of
protest that we have seen
surrounding these big, multinational
We know it made people
really angry, the story quite
recently about police forces
infiltrating undercover green
groups. There was one case in
particular where a police officer
out of relationships with other
activists, was leading a real double
life. The question is, you know, it
does stay in the story that the
activity is much more widespread
than people would have expected. The
question is, how long have these
undercover operations been going
on's have they been playing with
people's lives in the same weight as
white interesting stuff.
green to win back voters. I remember
hugging the house the end the North
Pole, David Cameron. And then it all
got junk. Well, apparently is coming
back on the Michael Gove, who is
trying to almost arrange the image
of the Department of environment and
getting out there and hitting back
on social media -- change the image.
What do you make of this, joke?
There is a Cameroonian feel to this,
after the Theresa May drive we are
coming back to the fluffy,
compassionate Conservative deal with
this drive, anyway. I think this is
a reaction to what happened in the
election. A lot of young voters
completely deserted the Tories for
the Labour Party. And a lot of that
was to do with not this is the only
particular policies or tuition fees,
but just the way the Tory Party was
promoting its values. Going back to
much more kind of Conservative,
socially Conservative values, away
from Cameroonian Liberal
Conservative feel. After being burnt
on things like fox hunting, the
ivory trade during the election,
this is a real push back to try and
win some of that.
You can sense that
they don't want to go back to being
the nasty party, a sense that they
have been sort of uncaring and they
want to become the kind of, very
sympathetic and loving and animal
loving, you know, other things they
are going to focus on our school
standards, there was a sense that
they lost some of the mummy vote at
the time, it's not just the
environment. As with everything,
there's been a bit of a backlash
around the whole rebranding that was
going on. It's one of the things
they are definitely going to ditch.
For me, it doesn't sit with the new,
caring party, because they are not
making a big thing of the NHS. They
seem to have decided that actually
they can't win on the NHS. One would
imagine that investing in the NHS
would make you be the most caring.
That is the problem. When you poll
people, the NHS is up there and the
environment is not the top issue. I
remember someone was saying that
after blue planet on Sunday, lots of
tweets from Tory MPs, quite similar
stuff. It's a co-ordinated thing
that they are trying to deep.
not everyone is happy about it. Not
all MPs... One MP told me the other
day that they don't get any letters
really about animals at all other
than bees. And actually it hasn't
made much of an impact in the sort
of mailbags. And also talking about
school standards, it's not school
standards which has been bugging
mums, it's school funding. Some of
this seems a bit kind of misguided.
It's about positioning the party.
How much of it about positioning
Indeed! Looking at
the policies that the Tory Party has
brought forward since the election
and the policies that Michael Gove
has brought forward, he has won to
be fair to him, some plaudits from
green groups, who have said, you
know, it's good at least that we
have a Secretary of State that is
looking at the right things. We
still waiting to see the proof, the
piece of legislation he is
promising, whether that is going to
come through. If you look at the
policies that Theresa May announced
week, which has formed the platform
for the new PR push, they are not
that the revolutionary than what was
announced this week. There was a big
PR push on this. Whether it actually
follows through is yet to be seen.
Let's have a look at the FT. Talking
about the Conservative Party, the
picture of Damian Green. He is still
awaiting that inquiry into his
alleged behaviour, saying here,
Theresa May has got to pep up the
top team. And the Brexit deal blow.
Do you think it is a glow, Caroline,
after the Brexit deal?! The
the basking in the glow
of success, this wasn't the story
that we were discussing last week
when everything was going horribly
I think it's safe to say it's
a bit volatile.
This could easily
set fire to the paper!
has almost become the new norm with
this Government. Normally you would
get political crises and they would
last for days and days. You can have
very turbulent days and then it is
like you in a new country the next
day. They pick themselves up and
move on. This story is saying,
things are all right, by contract,
maybe now she is strong enough to
carry out the reshuffle which has
really been on the cards pretty much
Will she wait to the New
Most Tory MPs will tell you
they do not expect her to last
beyond Brexit anyway.
There is a
talk about the younger generation
being brought in in some weight.
Lots of talking about
Looking about as off at the
picture, there is a big question
mark hanging over some of the older
members of the party. There can be
no reshuffle until we know what
Damian Green's fate is going to be.
If he is going to be forced to
resign, there has been some chatter
that that is the direction of
travel, although it seems to ebb and
flow every week this saga goes on,
she cannot do anything and all that
is decided. What she doesn't want to
happen is that she saves him and
there's more revelations and he is.
William Hague has said very clearly,
-- he is false to go again. He says,
you need to start really elevating
some of those people in the junior
ministerial positions and stamped
She has been trying
to get William Hague did come back,
and he has refused to so far.
move the times. Rob Tait will be
beamed to dashboards. Joe, what's
this about -- Road data.
has to be smart these days, you
can't just have a manually operated
thing. You can't have a motorway to
just drive along! This with the
hundreds of miles of fibre-optic
cable buried alongside motorways.
Through this fibre-optic cable in
the wizardry of broadband, you would
be able to beam into driverless cars
all of the information about
traffic, speed limits, no doubt it
could probably direct your car where
to go to avoid the worst traffic
jams and make sure that you avoiding
ice patches. I mean, it is exciting,
it does feel very futuristic.
could go wrong?!
This is also the
point, it is preparing the way for
these driverless cars. The
Government is really, really keen on
this as an idea and think that we
can lead the way on it. The
technology, however, there is
question marks even around smart
meters and things like that. So
actually having cars on the roads
that could be potentially open to
hacking and all of those things, I'm
sure that they will do all of those
tests, but it is one of those things
that you look so many things could
potentially go wrong, lights being
flashed at you and things on your
dashboard, it sounds very back to
We need to get with it!
We are going to talk about the
Independent next. Almost half of
British people want Donald Trump's
state visit scrap, according to a
poll. It doesn't sound very popular.
But the state visit seems to be on
the back burner. A working visit to
London might be happening.
an indication, including from the US
ambassador today, that the working
visit, as it is being called, to
open the new US embassy could go
ahead in February. But the polling
that we had done even shows that
around half of people are against
from coming in any capacity. But the
state visit really riles people
because it involves the Queen and
all of the pomp and ceremony and
giving the huge honours for the
president. In her heart of hearts,
even Theresa May regrets making and
I'm sure she regrets making the
picture of herself on the White
House lawn hand-in-hand with Trump.
It seems a long time ago. The state
visit is not going to happen any
time soon, is it?
I think the state
visit has now been postponed. It is
usually something that presidents
get in the second term. It was
always going to be quite
controversial this idea that it was
going to be a great expansion and
visit given to him. The working
visit, as I understand Joe said
correctly, I understand it is at the
end of February. But the actual
state visit I think will now be in
2019. In 2019, she may well not be
Prime Minister any longer. I don't
know what the protocol is on this.
From maybe impeached by then as
Let's have a look at Star
Wars, the premiere of the latest
film. Are you a Star Wars fan?
yes, ever since I was very, very
young, it's been part of my
upbringing. I've seen all of them, I
had all of the toys when I was a
kid, and I massively excited about
Are you massively excited?
loved it when I was a little girl, I
got my hair done as Princess Leia.
But I'm looking forward to taking my
little boy to see it, he is wildly
It was quite a big
premiere. Even got some royalty who
The fact that it has
made the front of most of the papers
shows what a big deal it is and how
it's going to beat the film that
really captures the imagination this
5-star review. Thank you
very much indeed.
That's it for The Papers tonight.
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Thank you, Joe Watts
and Caroline Wheeler.