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All eyes will be on Brussels

tomorrow morning for that

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statement from the President

of the European Council,

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Donald Tusk.

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So will it be make or break

for a deal on Brexit?

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Welcome to The View.

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Tonight - breakdown or breakthrough?

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Were not making any comment, no

thank you.

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We're just hours away from finding

out, with that fresh Brexit

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statement due in Brussels tomorrow.

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We'll be live there and in Dublin

for the latest news and analysis.

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We'll also have political

reaction here in Belfast,

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and we'll be finding out what those

who could be most affected

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by any deal think of it.

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That's local farmers

and the manufacturers.

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And in Commentators' Corner,

champing at the bit to hold forth

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on another dramatic week

of political high drama,

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are Fionnuala O Connor

and Alex Kane.

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Hello.

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It's been four days

of "will they, won't they?"

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Out of nowhere, a deal appeared

to be on the cards in Brussels,

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but then it vanished again

just as quickly.

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Then the blame game began -

"he said, she said",

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on a European scale.

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Here's a short reminder of what's

happened since Monday.

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We have been very clear, Northern

Ireland must leave the European

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Union on the same terms as the rest

of the United Kingdom.

This is not a

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failure. This is the start of the

very last sections.

We will

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reconvene before the end of the week

and I am also confident we will

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conclude this positively.

We are

surprised and disappointed they

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haven't been able to follow through

today on that agreement. But there

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is still time.

We have said from the

beginning that the pact between the

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DUP and the Tories in London would

end in tears, and so it has.

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Yesterday confirmed what we already

knew, the DUP tail is wagging the

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Tory dog.

When we looked at the

wording and saw the import of all of

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that, we knew we couldn't sign up to

anything that was in that text that

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would allow a border to develop in

the Irish Sea.

Taoiseach, can you

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guarantee that your government will

not accept any deal that doesn't

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ensure the north remains in the

customs union and single market?

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Someone forgot to share the details

of the Irish border deal with the

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DUP. Surely, Mr Speaker, there are

1.5 billion reasons why the Prime

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Minister really should have

forgotten to do that.

We will ensure

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there is no hard border between

Northern Ireland and the Republic of

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Ireland. We will do that while we

respect the constitutional integrity

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of the United Kingdom.

As the

Taoiseach outlined yesterday, this

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is a sensitive negotiation at a very

sensitive time.

Do you feel you are

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making any progress whatsoever?

We

will not be making any comment at

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this stage, thanks very much.

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So that brings us up to date

with the latest on what's been

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a roller-coaster week

of Brexit negotiations.

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And now we're hearing Donald Tusk

has an early start tomorrow morning,

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making an announcement in Brussels.

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So, what could he be about to say?

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RTE's Europe Editor,

Tony Connelly, is there for us.

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And from Dublin, we're joined

by the former Irish Times Political

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Editor, Stephen Collins.

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Tony Connelly Percival in Brussels.

Fair to assume Donald Tusk's

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statement will be about a fresh

deal. Do you think so?

That is the

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anticipation here. He announced a

few hours ago he would make a

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statement at around 6:50am Irish

time, 7:50am Brussels time. That was

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quickly qualified by a spokesperson

saying he was on a flight to Hungary

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shortly afterward so he wants to be

there to make a statement should

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anything happen overnight. After

that the signals come thick and fast

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that things were moving. Phone calls

between Jean-Claude Juncker and

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Theresa May, phone calls between

Theresa May and Leon Goretzka, the

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Taoiseach. Since then, signals that

more is happening with a text. --

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layover -- Leo Varadkar. It was

indicated this could run through the

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night and journalists were advised

to stay by their phones.

There was

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speculation before I came down to

the studio that Theresa May could

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travel to Brussels very early

tomorrow morning to meet Jean-Claude

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Juncker and Donald Tusk stop have

you heard that as well?

It was

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always anticipated that Theresa May

would have to do come back to

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Brussels if a deal was done because

she would have to do repeat the

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choreography of Monday, meeting

Jean-Claude Juncker and that one

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would expect that would lead to a

political sign off. And then the

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batting would be handed to the

European Commission and Donald Tusk.

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They would want to look at any text

before the start of the summit next

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big bust up one would have to be

here if there is to be a text that

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wins the support of the DUP and the

Irish government.

What about the

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shape of the text? How might it

differ from Monday's draft wording?

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That is critical.

That is critical.

The Irish government have made it

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clear that the substance of Monday's

text can't be changed or removed.

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They would be prepared to have some

language in there that qualifies or

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clarifies, or spells out in more

detail how this would work. As far

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as the Irish government is

concerned, and they have been

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signalling this this week, even

though they have been cautious in

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their pronouncements, what they have

felt happened on Monday was an

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agreement that had been reached by

all sides and they want the gist of

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that agreement to remain intact.

Stephen Collins, what are you

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hearing in Dublin tonight?

In Dublin

people are saying very little. After

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the experience of Monday people are

being cautious. The mood music is

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optimistic and there are hopes that

it can be pulled off this time. The

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Taoiseach, as Tony said, spoke with

Prime Minister Theresa May today.

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There is a feeling of guarded

optimism, I would call it. But

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nobody will count their chickens

this time. There was talk that the

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Irish government would be prepared

to modify some of the language, but

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the substance would have to remain.

If the language needs to be

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clarified, that the Irish government

accepts Northern Ireland remains

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part of the United Kingdom as long

as the majority wanted to, then that

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can be done. But the notion that

there would be some form of

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regulatory alignment would want to

be remained as far as the Irish

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government is concerned.

The most

logical speculation or outcome it in

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your view is that there would be

some additional sentences, the extra

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paragraph put in over and above

Monday's draft that would soothe the

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furrowed brow of the DUP?

I think

the Irish government signalled they

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would be prepared to put in some

extra words to soothe the DUP, but

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how far they would be prepared to do

that, I think they would want to be

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reassured that it would suit the DUP

and there isn't really any

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fundamental change. I think the

Irish government believes the DUP

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misinterpreted Monday's agreement

and read far too much into it. But

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they are prepared to move slightly

to clarify that for the DUP, I

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think. But after Monday's events, it

would be very foolish to presume

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what is going to happen in the

morning.

The Dublin government must

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be thinking it needs to be very

careful, as you have suggested, so

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that the horses are not spooked

again. The DUP clearly has

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considerable clout as far as Theresa

May is concerned. This is probably

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the last chance to get this right.

It probably is the last chance to

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get this right, so that we will be

ready in time for next week's

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European Council meeting for stop

but I the DUP appreciates they are

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also on a knife edge and their

pivotal role that they have to play

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very carefully, and if they disrupt

the whole thing, or if they are seen

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to be the ones who resent an

agreement going ahead, then the

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fallout for them could be quite

damaging in the longer run. I think

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the stakes are very high for

everyone involved in this, and that

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is why everybody been so careful

tonight. But this seems to be

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movement and they seem to be moving

towards an agreed position.

Tony, no

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leaks late in the evening. We will

see what happens in the wee small

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hours. Does this get us back on

track for next week's planned summit

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in Brussels, potentially?

If there

is agreement tomorrow morning, as

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people are now anticipating, what

will happen then is that the process

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that normally happens before a

European Council meeting, that will

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kick in. So you will get a signal

from Theresa May and Jean-Claude

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Juncker that this has been agreed

and then it will go to the other

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European capitals in the shape of

European ambassadors who have a

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co-repair meeting here. There is

normally one of those meetings every

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Friday, so it is possible the text

could go into that co-repair meeting

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on Friday. Member states will look

through it to make sure there is

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nothing that causes alarm. On Monday

it would go to the Sherpa meeting,

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more jargon, but the Sherpa meetings

are the envoys of the 27 heads of

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government who will meet on Monday

and prepare draft conclusions for

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next week's summit. That is the

normal procedure. If indeed

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everything is over the line tomorrow

morning, then that would pave the

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way for a Council conclusion next

week. In which the EU 27 can

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formally say, yes, there is

sufficient progress on all three

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critical areas and yes we can move

this into the second phase in

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January.

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Thank-you both.

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The front pages are just coming in.

I'm told the Daily Telegraph

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headline tomorrow, EU expects

Theresa May to sign deal today. Very

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much in line with what we have just

heard.

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So that's the very latest in terms

of what we believe might

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be happening tomorrow.

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What, then, do my studio

guests make of that?

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Tonight I'm joined by

Sinn Fein's Mairtin O Muilleoir

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and the Alliance Party leader,

Naomi Long.

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Also with me is Ivor Ferguson

from the Ulster Farmers' Union

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and Richard Hogg, who's on the board

of Manufacturing NI.

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We did ask the DUP to take

part in the programme,

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but it didn't want to.

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The Ulster Unionists couldn't get

anyone to join us and we tried

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a long list of Conservative

MPs without success.

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Having said all of that, we are

pleased to welcome the four of you

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to the studio. Make no mistake about

that. Mairtin O Muilleoir, let me

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turn to you first. If the deal is

the right gear, it will be worth

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waiting for.

You make it sound as if

we have nothing to do tonight,

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because we are the only people who

turned up!

I expressly didn't want

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to give you that impression!

We will

all get up early tomorrow. If there

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is going to be an agreement or

statement, we will study it. Or else

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we need the Green MEP who spilled

the beans on the last proto-

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agreement. Whatever happens

tomorrow, we will stress test it

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again what we and Sinn Fein want. I

think we speak for the majority of

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people in the north when we say that

we want a special designated status

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within the EU. Other people call it

a unique status. That means the

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status quo must maintain. We should

stay in a single market and Customs

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union.

You will not get that in this

deal.

Let's test what comes out, if

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there is a deal tomorrow. Let's test

it against what we want to see.

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Certainly the language on Monday,

and what an exciting week it was,

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but Collingwood on Monday was that

we would have a situation that

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ensured the rights of Irish citizens

north of the border. -- but the

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language on Monday was.

What it

underscores more than anything is

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the peripheral nature of Sinn Fein.

You are not part of the negotiation

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process whatsoever. You're watching

from the sidelines like the rest of

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us.

Actually, tomorrow morning, if

there is a deal then Michel Barnier

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will brief the Parliamentary team

and Sinn Fein will have a

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representative on that team.

You are

being told what the deal is, you had

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nothing to do with shaping it.

I

think the parliament has input and

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we have four MEPs in the parliament.

The DUP, what they want to see, and

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they are the only party that

campaign for Brexit, and they

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represent a minority. The Taoiseach

has taken a firm stand and we cannot

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have any rolling back from that

stands taken on Monday this week by

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the Irish government standing firmly

behind the rights of Irish citizens

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and the majority of the North. The

Taoiseach repeated several times

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this week, the DUP speak for a

minority in this. They want to drag

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is back to pass that didn't work.

Most people want to be outward

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looking.

In your view it speaks for

the minority, but it is a party with

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an awful lot of clout.

Let's see

what they do or don't get. But if

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they get a deal that is the deal

Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, Liam

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Fox, the type of deal they want, it

would be a deal for the Brexiteers,

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it would be a hard Brexit, very

damaging to business here and damage

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to the community 's sector and it

would mean an end...

The Irish

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government will not accept that and

it has been clear since day one.

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Let's make sure the Irish government

stands firm and for the type of

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future we envisage. If anything it

needs to be protected.

Those

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elements which are relevant as far

as the Good Friday Agreement is

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concerned were determined in the

original draft. Naomi long, I am

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sorry that you're completely out of

the loop on this as well.

We are not

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in this negotiation, but if you look

at what we, it was pretty close to

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where things were coming out in

terms of negotiations earlier this

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week, it set forward I think the

only tangible proposal from any

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local party, we discussed them with

the secretary of state and both

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governments so we will set out our

position very clearly to those in

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the negotiations even though we are

not at the table and it's been clear

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this week despite the DUP having ten

MPs they were not at the table

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either.

Your colleague Stephen Farry

told me on Monday that the draft

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deal which fell on Monday was a

golden opportunity, the best of both

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worlds, how concerned are you that

that could be changed dramatically

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in the second deal we think we will

see tomorrow are you not concerned?

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I don't think it can be changed

dramatically because the individual

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pieces which make the deal have been

pretty much on the table and

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circumscribed by Arlene Foster and

Martin McGuinness's letter which

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went to the Prime Minister just

after Brexit to set out what we

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needed in Northern Ireland. I think

effectively on Monday the DUP did

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not just with gift horse in the most

they shot dead in the head and I've

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no idea why, we already have

regularity alignment for certain

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sectors. It was about taking it up a

notch.

The rug from under the feet

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of Theresa May...

I am not sure

that's the case, I think it was more

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a fit of pique because they felt

they had been closed out of

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negotiations and I don't think it

went down well. The difficulty is in

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pulling the rug out from Theresa

May's beat the need to remember they

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have weakened her on the

international stage and yet she is

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to all intents and purposes the

Prime Minister who will have to

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negotiate her way through the future

stages of this and she is a much

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weakened Prime Minister thanks to

how the DUP have handled the

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situation. Much better to have had

this conversation behind closed

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doors, not down a telephone line

which put the government in an

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embarrassing position.

Very

interesting perspectives, let's hear

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from the manufacturing sector and

the agricultural sector, Richard,

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you appeared before the affairs

committee at Westminster yesterday,

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how important is it for you and the

people you represent that the

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politicians get this sorted and

sorted quickly?

It's really

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important and hopefully we will get

the border thing sorted out by

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tomorrow, maybe, maybe not. What I

find very disappointing about this

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whole process was that are two

leading particle parties tried to

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politicise what is a business

problem. Trying to politicise the

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border. I think a lot of people in

business find that alarming. It's

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important the politicians get

together and start moving forward in

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a good direction to help us, to give

us direction because within

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manufacturing, business in general,

we don't know what will happen.

Are

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you optimistic to hear some kind of

a revised deal appears to now be in

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the final stages of being agreed,

could well be signed off tomorrow by

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the powers that be in Brussels which

would give you perhaps the kind of

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clarity you are looking for? Then

the question is are you guaranteed

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the politicians will not start

politicising the deal in the way you

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think they have politicised the road

to the deal?

We are extremely

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enthusiastic about it and we are

very optimistic about business with

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Northern Ireland. We see fantastic

opportunities within Brexit

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actually. Which is, sometimes a bit

contradictory but we do find, we do

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think there are a fantastic

opportunities if it's handled

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properly and there is no reason we

cannot become a bridge rather than,

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so it's not talk about borders or no

borders, let's become a bridge.

You

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think Northern Ireland could get the

best of both worlds in the deal and

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it could be a golden opportunity

with a foot in both camps?

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Absolutely, why not? Why can they

not be the bridge between Europe and

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the rest of the world and the UK?

Why not?

Is that how you see it in

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the agricultural sector?

No,

certainly, speaking as Northern

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Ireland's farmers we want to see

progress made, the area I live is in

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Armagh and I live quite near the

border so we would like to see a

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solution to the border, we want to

see free trade but having said that,

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it's been mooted about the border in

the Irish Sea, that would certainly

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be a big problem for us because our

businesses are worth almost £5

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billion now and 50% of that goes

directly into the UK market so

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anything which would disrupt or

change the regulations as regards

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Northern Ireland into the GB market

it would certainly be a big problem.

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Where are you concerned as far as

that element of the Monday draft

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deal, that it could visit problems

for your sector? And east-west

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border effectively?

That is right.

We would like to see free trade with

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our colleagues south of the border

but this east West is a bigger

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concern for us because of the volume

of trade we do. Our Chief Executive

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and myself were in Brussels at the

end of last week and Michel Barnier

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told us it was his ideal, the only

answer he could see was for the UK

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to come into a customs union or be

aligned in some way. What we were

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talking about here for Northern

Ireland, if that could be applied UK

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while Leave why it could cause a lot

of problems.

So you will be reading

0:20:540:20:58

the terms of the deal if there is a

deal tomorrow very carefully because

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that's an issue that unionists

flagged up, if there is to be some

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kind of regulatory alignment they

would like it to apply more widely

0:21:060:21:10

and to Northern Ireland.

Yes, we do

not take part in politics, this is

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merely on trade business we are

concerned about for Northern

0:21:180:21:21

Ireland.

I appreciate that but it's

a political negotiation which is the

0:21:210:21:25

difficulty. The politicians have the

say so and a degree of influence

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over how you do business in future,

that is the reality.

I have to agree

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that is the reality but nonetheless

it is our top priority. To have no

0:21:350:21:40

interference with trade.

What do you

make of that, it's a real concern

0:21:400:21:43

and there are a lot of farmers in

Northern Ireland and a lot of

0:21:430:21:47

business.

Absolutely and in

manufacturing and I think the point

0:21:470:21:51

is well made. We called our paper on

Brexit bridges not barriers because

0:21:510:21:56

we want to see Northern Ireland's

businesses able to trade freely with

0:21:560:21:59

the rest of the UK and Republic of

Ireland and beyond because there's

0:21:590:22:03

an opportunity here for us if we

have the special arrangement to be

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able to maximise our business. Not

just protect what we have but grow

0:22:080:22:16

what we have into the future after

Brexit and it's important we future

0:22:160:22:18

proof business. We cannot have hard

borders either in the Irish Sea are

0:22:180:22:21

a lot of the border with the

Republic but regulatory alignment,

0:22:210:22:23

having no diverging from the EU,

that's not mutually exclusive with

0:22:230:22:30

being able to remain to do trade

with the UK.

When you look at the

0:22:300:22:36

wording, it's only going to relate

to a certain number of sectors.

It

0:22:360:22:41

already happens in a certain number

of sectors, we already have

0:22:410:22:44

regulatory alignment in some sectors

on a island-wide basis and on other

0:22:440:22:51

sectors it's across the UK. There

have been occasions were having a

0:22:510:22:55

border and its other serious hard

border but some kind of boundary in

0:22:550:22:58

the Irish Sea has been beneficial to

farmers. Redford and mouth and so

0:22:580:23:03

on, the fact our cattle are not

classed the same as GB was to our

0:23:030:23:08

benefit army could continue to

trade. There is an occasion where

0:23:080:23:12

that's it to our advantage so why

would we not maximise our advantage?

0:23:120:23:18

That is a good example of how the

different Cenation work in favour,

0:23:180:23:22

OK it was lying time ago and we

don't want another outbreak of foot

0:23:220:23:26

and mouth, obviously, but it is an

example of how benefited.

As long as

0:23:260:23:33

there are no barriers between us and

the UK we could see a lot of

0:23:330:23:37

advantages going forward and there

are a lot of positives to grow our

0:23:370:23:40

share of the home market. The GB

market is 65 million people.

Richard

0:23:400:23:48

how concerned are you by the issue

raised that is some kind of border

0:23:480:23:52

which divides your business in

Northern Ireland for the rest of the

0:23:520:23:55

United Kingdom, you don't want that?

And the people you represent the one

0:23:550:24:00

that?

Definitely not, we do not want

borders anywhere, we want free trade

0:24:000:24:05

back and forward.

There has to be a

border somewhere.

Yes but it can be

0:24:050:24:11

negotiated and we can work through

it but we need to get to the point

0:24:110:24:14

to make their next move which

hopefully tomorrow we can see what

0:24:140:24:16

that can be but we need to get to

that point first then we can discuss

0:24:160:24:20

it.

There are different kinds of

borders. This is what we need to

0:24:200:24:25

start talking about. When it's the

alignment we already have there is

0:24:250:24:29

already a border effective for

certain goods which doesn't cause

0:24:290:24:34

disruption.

We need to focus on the

practicalities but we have to get

0:24:340:24:37

this ready first and get it agreed

or we will never move to the point

0:24:370:24:41

these gentlemen need to be at.

I am

sympathetic to what I've and Richard

0:24:410:24:47

are saying but unfortunately and

Michel Barnier has said this many

0:24:470:24:50

times, you cannot have your cake and

eat it. The British want to leave

0:24:500:24:53

the EU.

I don't understand that.

Let

me explain, Michel Barnier said the

0:24:530:25:01

British voted, English and Welsh

certainly voted to leave the EU and

0:25:010:25:05

a majority here voted to stay there

we are a special case Angela Powers

0:25:050:25:09

said very clearly they are going to

stand behind the Irish government

0:25:090:25:13

that there should be no damage done

to the north of Ireland under annex

0:25:130:25:20

it so Europe wants to see a solution

and it is seen to the British

0:25:200:25:25

government you want out, you cannot

say we want to leave the EU but

0:25:250:25:28

still want the rights and

entitlements. I know business wants

0:25:280:25:33

to be agnostic and I appreciate that

but if the DUP get the way they are

0:25:330:25:37

exiting the same way Manchester and

Bristol are and that is a hard exit.

0:25:370:25:43

If the deal goes to tomorrow that's

not the case.

This is what I am

0:25:430:25:48

trying to say, trying to politicise

all of this again is a nonsense and

0:25:480:25:52

it's not acceptable to us in

business. Stop it. We need to get to

0:25:520:25:56

appoint move forward.

You can say

that, and it's a sexy phrase and a

0:25:560:26:04

headline but what does it mean in

real terms because politics governs

0:26:040:26:08

this process.

We are talking about

borders again so in that, the

0:26:080:26:13

borders and having a lack of them

whatever way it's going to work out,

0:26:130:26:17

that a business thing we need to be

concentrating on as business so we

0:26:170:26:21

know what is going to be there. So

we can employ people, get them into

0:26:210:26:25

work, pay taxes and make his

province into what it can be.

0:26:250:26:31

Hopefully someone from the DUP may

be watching tonight so what is your

0:26:310:26:36

message to them from the people you

represent?

Stop this silly nonsense,

0:26:360:26:42

get yourselves back and sit back and

get storm and running again so we

0:26:420:26:46

can as businesses and farmers get on

with what we want to do.

I would

0:26:460:26:50

certainly agree with that and I also

want to say that this is not a

0:26:500:26:57

one-way ticket. Speaking to our

farmers, in the member states, like

0:26:570:27:02

a lot of member states are really

anxious on the continent and anxious

0:27:020:27:05

to get a good deal, ideal of free

trade in and out of the UK. It's not

0:27:050:27:11

all us in the UK wanting to deal

with the continent, there are a lot

0:27:110:27:15

of member states you want to deal

with us.

I need to ask about

0:27:150:27:20

Stormont, Richard saying get it

sorted out and get back to stored

0:27:200:27:25

mint -- to Stormont, you will see

you wanted but not under the current

0:27:250:27:29

conditions and the DUP need to move

on their position but if this deal

0:27:290:27:32

is on the table tomorrow and is

contingent upon the devolved

0:27:320:27:35

assembly being backed up and

running, to actually implement

0:27:350:27:39

whatever decisions are taken, are

you going to thumb your nose at the

0:27:390:27:43

deal and hold to your red lines and

see this opportunity go down the

0:27:430:27:46

Swan Lake?

Let me reply to Richard,

there should be continuation of

0:27:460:27:52

single market and a customs union so

business are saying they don't want

0:27:520:27:57

a hard border. Boris Johnson says he

wants to leave the EU therefore we

0:27:570:28:01

have to politicise this. The DUP

position is the Brexit position and

0:28:010:28:06

ours is not, it's the majority

position across this Ireland. I

0:28:060:28:10

would love to be back in government,

any of us in elected position want

0:28:100:28:14

to be there to deliver for people.

The DUP is the blockage, once they

0:28:140:28:19

guarantee they will give us the

government...

THEY TALK OVER EACH

0:28:190:28:22

OTHER

Once the DUP guarantee they

can treat people equally, things may

0:28:220:28:33

be nonsense to you but they are

important to ordinary people, I am

0:28:330:28:37

pleased that there was an opinion

poll today showing the majority of

0:28:370:28:42

people want to see...

Those other

issues have to be dealt with

0:28:420:28:45

otherwise no matter what the

opportunities as far as tomorrow's

0:28:450:28:48

deal might be your not going back to

Stormont?

We will be back to

0:28:480:28:53

Stormont as soon as the DUP step up

and see the Good Friday Agreement

0:28:530:28:57

which agrees equality for all, they

will respect that.

So that obstacle

0:28:570:29:01

are still in place?

I remember when

Leo Varadkar came here and on the

0:29:010:29:07

same issue of same-sex marriage she

will not be compromised.

From our

0:29:070:29:13

perspective any divergences we will

have from the overall deal, any

0:29:130:29:17

special arrangements will be reliant

on getting an assembly back up and

0:29:170:29:20

running. I think the majority of

people want to see that happen, they

0:29:200:29:24

want politicians to be grappling

with the detail which will follow

0:29:240:29:27

any deal which comes tomorrow and I

think it's time to get their heads

0:29:270:29:33

together and find a way to get back

into Stormont like the rest of

0:29:330:29:36

A sentence each.

I'm disappointed

with local politicians. At a time

0:29:420:29:46

like this with farming in love

Island and the size of the food

0:29:460:29:50

business, we would like to see some

leadership shown in Stormont to us

0:29:500:29:53

moving forward.

We are complete

alignment.

0:29:530:30:00

Thank you all.

0:30:010:30:02

Let's hear what tonight's

commentators have to say

0:30:020:30:04

about that, and the prospect

of a new deal tomorrow.

0:30:040:30:06

Alex Kane and Fionnuala

O Connor are with me.

0:30:060:30:12

Good to see you. I have been handed

a piece of paper with the latest

0:30:120:30:17

information from political editor in

London Laura Kuenssberg. Speculation

0:30:170:30:20

continues. Theresa May will go

tomorrow early to finalise

0:30:200:30:28

agreements. Talks will continue

through the night and it is

0:30:280:30:31

understood additional wording has

been finalised in the text to

0:30:310:30:34

provide additional reassurance to

the DUP. Alex?

I have no idea what

0:30:340:30:38

will happen. We sat here last week

and we knew Sammy Wilson and Peter

0:30:380:30:48

Robinson had made their

interventions. They were spooked and

0:30:480:30:50

angry. But they need a deal to

because the Conservative Party is

0:30:500:30:54

not going to allow, with a few

exceptions, is not going to allow

0:30:540:30:58

the DUP to block everything of

thing. Tomorrow Theresa May,

0:30:580:31:05

politically damaged and

psychologically savaged on Monday,

0:31:050:31:09

she needs to prove she is a lead

again. She needs to square that

0:31:090:31:11

circle.

Your political antenna is

usually pretty good, what's

0:31:110:31:16

happening at the moment?

I don't

know. I think Theresa May is not

0:31:160:31:21

just damage, but she is on her last

chance.

Really?

I do. She was forced

0:31:210:31:28

into that position. People made the

point during the week where she

0:31:280:31:31

didn't want any freethinker

clarified. Didn't want the situation

0:31:310:31:34

clarified of what she would go for

in the end. -- she didn't want

0:31:340:31:38

anything clarified. Now apparently

she wants a cabinet meeting before

0:31:380:31:41

Christmas at which everything will

come out in the open. During which

0:31:410:31:45

all the people inside her Cabinet

who disagree with each other and

0:31:450:31:47

want to her job in a couple of

cases, will open up. She's in a

0:31:470:31:53

terrible position.

The challenge is

that if tomorrow turns out to be a

0:31:530:31:58

deal based on a fudge where

constructive ambiguity is what gets

0:31:580:32:02

it over the line, how long can it

last before it all begins to turn in

0:32:020:32:07

on itself? That's the problem.

The

same thing will happen as has

0:32:070:32:12

happened to the Good Friday

Agreement. Constructive ambiguity

0:32:120:32:15

became destructive very quickly. And

Theresa May does not believe in

0:32:150:32:22

Brexit. She is not committed to

Brexit. She is in and a possible

0:32:220:32:27

task, trying to deliver something

she has no interest in.

She is try

0:32:270:32:31

to make the best of it.

Held hostage

for all the wrong reasons by the

0:32:310:32:35

DUP. A deal she never needed to do

and is now paying the price for

0:32:350:32:39

doing stupid deal. Tomorrow she is

still trying to please these people.

0:32:390:32:44

It's a ridiculously embarrassing

position for a British Prime

0:32:440:32:47

Minister to find herself in.

Do you

have the sense Arlene Foster has

0:32:470:32:50

Theresa May over a barrel at the

moment?

I don't know. They could be

0:32:500:32:55

an element of pretence in the DUP

position. I think they may have

0:32:550:32:59

overplayed their hand. Whether they

decide to go for it, they obviously

0:32:590:33:05

couldn't decide to go for broke and

say, we will bring you down, walking

0:33:050:33:09

out, and we will risk Jeremy Corbyn

getting back in and risk the

0:33:090:33:12

election. So they pulled back from

the brink. And I feel they will do

0:33:120:33:16

so again. But there isn't much time

left. That's the problem.

To hear

0:33:160:33:23

briefly from the agriculture sector

and manufacturing sector, taking on

0:33:230:33:26

the politicians and saying, sort

yourselves out, it's not often you

0:33:260:33:29

hear that.

I don't want to be rude,

but I really heard such magical

0:33:290:33:35

thinking. Politicising this

question, they said. Politicising

0:33:350:33:41

the border, where have these people

been living their entire lives? The

0:33:410:33:45

border isn't political?

Is it

political naivete?

There is more

0:33:450:33:51

chants of me becoming happy than

Stormont being put together any time

0:33:510:33:54

soon. It's not happening.

0:33:540:33:58

That's it from The View

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