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Tonight, This Week is walking in the air and floating in the | :00:10. | :00:18. | |
Westminster sky. The people far below are sleeping as we fly | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
through the top stories of the year. Which political snowman will end | :00:21. | :00:27. | |
the year on top and which one is in danger of melting away? We'll be | :00:27. | :00:30. | |
joined by two jolly Fleet Street men of snow - Quentin Letts and | :00:30. | :00:36. | |
Kevin Maguire. Swimming in the frozen sky, leading actor David | :00:36. | :00:42. | |
Morrissey. Providing the Christmas X-Factor - the voice of an angel, | :00:42. | :00:52. | |
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Johnny Robinson. And everyone who sees us, greets us as we fly. | :00:57. | :01:00. | |
Evening all and a special welcome to our special Christmas edition of | :01:00. | :01:03. | |
This Week. The show that exists, much like British foreign policy, | :01:03. | :01:08. | |
in glorious isolation from the rest of the civilised world. In fact, | :01:08. | :01:10. | |
parallels between us and Call-Me- Dave's undiplomatic statecraft | :01:10. | :01:16. | |
don't end there. We too refuse to sign up to bureaucratic rules that | :01:16. | :01:21. | |
limit our sovereign right to cock everything up, all on our own. We | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
too kid ourselves that we punch above our weight, with a global | :01:24. | :01:27. | |
reach, and a fleet of imaginary aircraft carriers, though at least | :01:27. | :01:31. | |
we're not counting on the French to share one with us. And when we too | :01:31. | :01:34. | |
fail miserably to get our own way, just like Dave, we're always ready | :01:34. | :01:38. | |
to claim it was a cunning plan all along and blame everything else on | :01:38. | :01:42. | |
the cheese-eating surrender monkeys. And, at the end of the day, who | :01:43. | :01:46. | |
doesn't get a kick out of making prank phone calls to Nick Clegg at | :01:46. | :01:54. | |
4am saying, "You've just re-taken Calais?" It never ever gets boring. | :01:54. | :01:57. | |
Speaking of those weary souls who are locked in a political prison of | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
their own making, I'm joined on the sofa tonight by two of | :02:00. | :02:05. | |
Westminster's oldest lags. The Lennie Godber and Norman Stanley | :02:05. | :02:12. | |
Fletcher of late-night political chat. I speak, of course, of | :02:12. | :02:14. | |
Michael Portillo, and back by absolutely no public demand | :02:14. | :02:24. | |
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whatsoever, and currently trending as #leftieontheleft - Diane Abbott. | :02:24. | :02:27. | |
And with little chance of being outdone, and currently trending as | :02:27. | :02:32. | |
#maninthemiddle - Charles Kennedy. And a very warm welcome to an actor | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
who does the impossible - yes, he's the man who made Gordon Brown | :02:36. | :02:46. | |
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televisua - actor and director, David Morrissey. Michael, your | :02:49. | :02:57. | |
moment of the year. The killing of Osama Bin Laden. It may be a | :02:57. | :03:03. | |
bitterlyy or paradox, but it wasn't the moment -- a bit early, or par | :03:03. | :03:07. | |
box, but it wasn't the moment of the year, but this was the number | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
one objective of the fight against terror, but funnily enough when I | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
wad ask to think of my moment, it was hard to remember that this his | :03:15. | :03:19. | |
even happened, because although it seemed quite big at the time, what | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
sort of consequence what's it had? No political consequence in America. | :03:23. | :03:28. | |
It kind of died, that is not the bet analogy, but I know what you | :03:28. | :03:35. | |
mean. That's Andrew for you. takes me very literally. It did | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
have the great photograph. You remember the photograph of the | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
operations room and Hillary Clinton with her hand over her mouth? | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
didn't appear to be quite what it is. That's life and politics. | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
a bit naive. They were all terrified it was all going to be | :03:52. | :03:57. | |
another Jimmy Carter helicopters in the desert. Diane? I was at home, | :03:57. | :04:02. | |
Saturday night I looked at Twitter and realised there were riots in | :04:02. | :04:07. | |
Tottenham. Turned on my TV. Took me back all the years back to | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
Broadwater Farm. The riots haven't had longevity in terms of the | :04:11. | :04:16. | |
political impact. But we'll have riots again next summer. We will? | :04:16. | :04:22. | |
Lucky you weren't in the Caribbean at the time. On the spot for once, | :04:22. | :04:29. | |
in the summer. I thought it was the Tottenham district of Jamaica. Have | :04:29. | :04:33. | |
you noticed what's above you. SREAMING | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
We haven't got one. You did, but I cut it down. David, your moment of | :04:37. | :04:47. | |
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the year. My moment, is similar. In the summer I was driving out of | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
London with my son on the Monday and just seeing London burning, as | :04:53. | :05:00. | |
I was driving out. Just seeing the pockets of fire. That was a very - | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
Stays in the memory? Very strange time to be leaving London and | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
feeling like getting out and feeling safe about getting out and | :05:08. | :05:13. | |
thinking I shouldn't be feeling safe about driving away. You are | :05:13. | :05:20. | |
making a drama? It is out on 22nd. Next week. Channel 4 9pm. Channel 4. | :05:20. | :05:28. | |
Excellent. I will set the sky plus. Charles? I think if you look at UK | :05:28. | :05:35. | |
politics at the moment, fascinating and unpredictable as it, the one | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
constant light in the sky and it grieves me to say this, but it was | :05:39. | :05:43. | |
confirmed this year, is the primacy of First Minister Alex Salmond. He | :05:44. | :05:48. | |
is far and away the most successful politician in terms of having an | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
absolute majority of his own and having a renewed mandate and | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
effectively next to no opposition whatsoever. In the land of the | :05:55. | :06:03. | |
blind, the one-eyed man is king? shall see. At the moment, there is | :06:03. | :06:07. | |
no alternative, to coin a phrase, from Alex Salmond. Equally, it's | :06:07. | :06:14. | |
going to have ramifications for the rest of the United Kingdom, because | :06:14. | :06:20. | |
the issues are internal. It will be a developing story. Very much so. | :06:20. | :06:28. | |
Thank you for those. Now, we've got an extra treat for you tonight. As | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
forelock-tugging corporate lickspittles of the highest order, | :06:30. | :06:32. | |
we're contractually obliged to favour all BBC light entertainment | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
over its ITV rivals. That's why, naturally, we've decided to round | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
off the year with, what else, a Political X-Factor Quiz, with X- | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
Factor singing sensation, it's the X-Factor's Johnny Robinson from the | :06:40. | :06:50. | |
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X-Factor! APPLAUSE | :06:55. | :07:01. | |
Hello. Pleased to meet you. Factor is on the BBC, isn't it? | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
ITV, love. You got that wrong. We'll be fired. Naughty boy. Are | :07:05. | :07:12. | |
you ready? What are you going to be doing? We are going to give you a | :07:12. | :07:20. | |
question, because it's a quiz. Start us off. Here we go. First | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
question is - which naughty Baroness, who spooked the Lords, | :07:24. | :07:34. | |
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has the X Factor? He's got no idea. Let's roll the type and let's see | :07:38. | :07:48. | |
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what the answer is. It's Baroness Trum tonne there. She is one of the | :07:48. | :07:50. | |
only ones... LAUGHTER | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
I can just watch that again and again. I want to see that on a loop. | :07:55. | :08:01. | |
Jonny, come back and we'll do some more. Thank you. Now, never let it | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
be said that we take the take-off too far on this programme. | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
Absolutely not, we buy a first- class ticket and send it half way | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
around the world to tiny states of microkneesia, so that must mean | :08:13. | :08:23. | |
it's time for the Downturn Abbey Christmas special. There have been | :08:23. | :08:31. | |
big changes since we visited last Christmas. Times have moved on | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
faster that Nick Clegg's bottom when Europe is debated. Kevin | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
Maguire has been sent off to fight in Brussels and Lord Quentin Letts, | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
for it is he, is coming to terms with a dramatic change in fortunes, | :08:43. | :08:50. | |
so sit back and enjoy our first of three visits to double-dip Downturn | :08:50. | :09:00. | |
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Abbey at Christmas. MUSIC I remember Christmas Eve 2011. A new | :09:28. | :09:34. | |
front had opened up in the war in Europe. For months the bankers had | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
been shelling the Germans, who were shooting the French, sniping at the | :09:38. | :09:44. | |
Greeks and Italians. But when Field Marshal Lord Cameron signalled the | :09:44. | :09:51. | |
retreat, everyone started shooting at us. I came back to Downturn | :09:51. | :09:56. | |
where I had hoped to spend the holidays recuperating with my old | :09:56. | :10:01. | |
master, but life back home had changed. Hang on a minute, this | :10:01. | :10:11. | |
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doesn't look right. Hello. Maguire, I'm so glad you're home. | :10:18. | :10:25. | |
We have been repossessed. Yaild Mr May, the house keep -- wailed Mr | :10:25. | :10:35. | |
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May, the housekeeper and look Hizbollah Lordship. -- look at his | :10:35. | :10:39. | |
Lordship. So the newsreels were right and Field Marshal Lord | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
Cameron did win the great European war and the boys are coming home | :10:43. | :10:53. | |
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for Christmas. Yes, something like that. I said before coming to | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
Brussels that if I couldn't get adequate safeguards for Britain in | :10:58. | :11:04. | |
a new European treaty, then I wouldn't agree to it. So much for | :11:04. | :11:11. | |
all that high- fluting talk and using the veto. Lord Cameron's done | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
what no British Prime Minister, not even Lady Thatcher, ever dared do. | :11:16. | :11:23. | |
I know, it's great, isn't it? I say, this calls for a celebration. Mrs | :11:23. | :11:28. | |
May, break open the drinks from the cellar. Shouldn't we remember the | :11:28. | :11:35. | |
fallen? Yes, you're right. And those missing in action. How can | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
the Prime Minister expect to persuade anyone else it's a good | :11:39. | :11:47. | |
outcome when he can't persuade his own deputy? Being aced as one is | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
bad for jobs and growth and the millions of people in this country, | :11:50. | :11:56. | |
but the coalition is here to stay. Shame, shellshock does funny things | :11:56. | :12:03. | |
to a good footman. Let's drink. Lords Letts believed the good old | :12:03. | :12:09. | |
days were just around the corner. But what had happened to Downturn? | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
Tricky one, I'm afraid. I'm afraid my accountant, young Lord Osborne, | :12:13. | :12:20. | |
had a little bit of trouble with his sums. They have unsurprisingly | :12:20. | :12:23. | |
revised down their short-term growth prospects for our country, | :12:23. | :12:29. | |
for Europe and for the world. They expect GDP if Britain to grow this | :12:29. | :12:37. | |
year by 0.9%. 0.9%? I've had stronger supermarket own-brand | :12:37. | :12:42. | |
value lager than that. I fear the Boy George in a man's job is | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
pushing us into a double-dip recession. The trouble is Labour | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
ballsed up the economy and they are still Ed Ballsing it up. Until they | :12:50. | :12:53. | |
get rid of the people who made a mess they are not going to be | :12:53. | :13:03. | |
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trusted on the economy. Bah, my Lord?! It must be hard for you to | :13:04. | :13:10. | |
get by on just under 150 K a year. We squeezed middle must make the | :13:10. | :13:20. | |
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best of things. Polysays we can stay until 2015. -- polly here says | :13:20. | :13:25. | |
we can stay until 2015. I'm going down with something, it must be the | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
Spanish flu, or Greek or German. Blasted conned nepbtals. I'm off to | :13:29. | :13:39. | |
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bed. -- continentals. I'm off to TV magic. Public service | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
broadcasting at its finest. Michael, do you think David Cameron is | :13:50. | :13:54. | |
pinching himself tonight? It looks like we're on the brink of another | :13:54. | :13:58. | |
recession. The Chancellor has had to admit his plans are off course. | :13:58. | :14:02. | |
We were one against 26 last week. He's now ahead in the polls and the | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
darling of his party. No, I don't think he's pinching himself, | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
because he's done something no Prime Minister has done before, | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
which is to say no to another treaty. This touches on the | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
relationship between the British people and the European Union. We | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
never expected to have one treaty after another, after another. We | :14:20. | :14:28. | |
thought we had joined a club. The European Union's rules are changing | :14:28. | :14:33. | |
all the time. Also, I think the treaty he didn't sign will shortly | :14:33. | :14:40. | |
be seen as a treaty of infan mi. What it will do is impose the most | :14:40. | :14:43. | |
austere austerity on countries when it is not the appropriate thing to | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
do. When the countries refuse to respond, then their Governments | :14:48. | :14:55. | |
will be replaced, as we have seen in Italy and Greece. This is not | :14:55. | :15:03. | |
only economically illiterate. We are well out of it. | :15:03. | :15:08. | |
Diane, inflation is high, living standards have been squeezed more | :15:08. | :15:13. | |
severely than any time since 1925. Unemployment is rising. There is | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
virtually no growth in the economy. Why is Labour and Mr Miliband doing | :15:18. | :15:24. | |
so badly? We're going to win... We have won all our by-elections so | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
far. We have 65,000 new members. However, you are right, if you look | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
at the overall number polling numbers for Ed, they are not as | :15:33. | :15:38. | |
high as we would like them to be. Things are going to get worse. You | :15:38. | :15:44. | |
are saying the eurozone will crash. It may well do. However,... High | :15:44. | :15:49. | |
are things not as high. Things have got worse and your ratings have got | :15:49. | :15:56. | |
worse. No. The Tories are ahead. It's a margin of error. | :15:56. | :16:01. | |
My leg has not been petted since you were last on the show. There | :16:01. | :16:11. | |
you go! Aren't you glad I'm back! I like it when you say to me, | :16:11. | :16:16. | |
you're right. Every answer tonight just say, "You're right." I will | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
take that mistletoe down. You will see that public opinion will come | :16:20. | :16:27. | |
to us when people see how bankrupt Osborne's plan is. There There's no | :16:27. | :16:32. | |
evidence of that. By all normal criteria Labour | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
should be doing well, it is mid- term, it has gone badly for the | :16:36. | :16:42. | |
Government. It is when oppositions always come through. My thing is to | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
ask you about opinion polls in general. How serious do you take | :16:46. | :16:51. | |
opinion polls as politicians? Are they really sweated over? Are they, | :16:51. | :16:56. | |
in that way? Then denied in public. Sniefplt you see David Cameron's | :16:56. | :17:03. | |
lead in the run-up is he was streets ahead. That.... They take | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
them seriously. If they are behind they are not important. The's only | :17:06. | :17:12. | |
one poll that is important, that is election day. If they are ahead, | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
they are on top of the world. If you are doing badly the support | :17:15. | :17:20. | |
is not there. It's like watching the share price. Same thing. | :17:20. | :17:23. | |
had a few doubts, I seem to remember, about this coalition | :17:23. | :17:29. | |
being formed at the time. Yes. One or two. Would you like to say | :17:29. | :17:36. | |
tonight, I stand totally vindicated, Charles Kennedy. I stand partly | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
vindicated? I stand a wee bit vindicated? | :17:40. | :17:46. | |
I'm a great believer in the economy of expression. You feel vindicated? | :17:46. | :17:53. | |
I don't feel vindicated. You just said you did. Answering the point, | :17:53. | :17:58. | |
seriously - I think the anxieties some of us expressed have been | :17:58. | :18:05. | |
vindicated. I mention Scotland. The night we aagreed to the deal I said | :18:05. | :18:10. | |
I cannot raise my hand from this. I am a Democrat. This will play badly | :18:10. | :18:15. | |
at the next elections in Scotland. We lost a lot. It is not just | :18:15. | :18:20. | |
Scotland. Mr Clegg told your party, peers and MPs, he said he didn't | :18:20. | :18:24. | |
want to go down in history as the last leader of the Liberal | :18:24. | :18:29. | |
Democrats by calling a general election. In other words, if there | :18:29. | :18:33. | |
was an election, you lot are stuffed. And when the original | :18:33. | :18:37. | |
coalition agreement was made, the argument I was putting forward was | :18:37. | :18:43. | |
we'd be better off in opposition, have a minority Tory Government. | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
Vote with them when you think it is right. | :18:46. | :18:53. | |
Hold on a minute. Let me finish. great compatriot and a great man. | :18:53. | :18:58. | |
He recognised.... Are you implying I am not democratic! You are trying | :18:58. | :19:03. | |
to wind Charles up. I am not. I believe this. He recognised the | :19:03. | :19:08. | |
deficit was the major problem. There had to be an austerity | :19:08. | :19:14. | |
Government. It had to last to 2015. He will stick through it through -- | :19:14. | :19:19. | |
to it through thick and thin. that decision was taken I was of | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
the view it would last through thick and thin. Eremain of that | :19:24. | :19:26. | |
view despite the Europe difficulties last week. Is there | :19:26. | :19:31. | |
not a danger for Labour it will be seen as too pro Europe and there | :19:31. | :19:37. | |
are too votes on the left or right by being too pro Europe? We have to | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
be careful of that T I am pro Europe in the general sense. What | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
is happening to the euro was always going to happen. Actually, what we | :19:45. | :19:50. | |
have to look at now is what's going to happen to the euro, because the | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
survival of the euro depends on the German voting public being prepared | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
to put its hand in its pocket and bail out Mediterranean countries. | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
They show no sign they want to do that. Labour ought to remind us | :20:02. | :20:07. | |
that the man David played on the television, Tony Blair, kept us out | :20:07. | :20:13. | |
of the euro. He is a great man. grateful nation would like to thank | :20:13. | :20:18. | |
you for that. Not me. Thank him personally, I think. | :20:18. | :20:26. | |
We are running out of time. Come back in. Give them another question. | :20:26. | :20:30. | |
Right, which cowboy, who shot from the hip, and missed, has the X | :20:30. | :20:36. | |
Factor? Charles looks lost. Can't you get | :20:36. | :20:44. | |
it? He always looks lost! Give them a clue. He's a bit of a | :20:44. | :20:52. | |
Dick. George Bush. Get it? answer is the republic and | :20:52. | :21:02. | |
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Presidential candidate Perry. Commerce, education and the - | :21:02. | :21:07. | |
what's the third one there? The third agency of Government, I would | :21:07. | :21:15. | |
do away with education, the.... Um.... Commerce and, let's see... I | :21:15. | :21:21. | |
can't, the third one, I can't. Sorry. Whoops! | :21:21. | :21:27. | |
This is not as bad as the candidate who had to admit he tied the dog to | :21:27. | :21:34. | |
the roof of his car when they drove to Canada. At least Sarah Palin was | :21:34. | :21:40. | |
honest about shooting animals. Now back to Downturn Abbey as we return | :21:40. | :21:50. | |
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to Lord Letwin and Butler Kevin Maguire dreaming of better days. | :21:51. | :21:55. | |
It was the night before Christmas, when all through the flat not a | :21:55. | :22:05. | |
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creature was stirring, well almost. SNORING | :22:07. | :22:17. | |
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sleep. Do you think Father Christmas has been along yet? | :22:19. | :22:26. | |
sure soon. My Lord, I have been thinking, why are we fighting the | :22:26. | :22:33. | |
French? It seems only like yesterday that Cameron and Sarkozy | :22:33. | :22:43. | |
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were the best of friends. # Ding, dong merryly on high # | :22:44. | :22:50. | |
No more holding of hands now. Cameron gambled taking on Gaddafi. | :22:50. | :22:56. | |
Even the Americans had their doubts. It wasn't an easy start. Probably | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
not the best idea to helicopter in Special Forces to talk to the | :23:00. | :23:06. | |
opposition. The British public are entitled to wonder if some new | :23:06. | :23:08. | |
neighbours moved into the Foreign Secretary's street he would | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
introduce himself by ringing the door bell or choose to climb over | :23:12. | :23:16. | |
the fence in the middle of the night. You have to say it paid off, | :23:16. | :23:22. | |
even if no-one knows where the Arab Spring is heading, I think | :23:22. | :23:30. | |
Britain's top brass handled the matter quite well. In with arm | :23:30. | :23:35. | |
manufacturers is going to get growth back. Are we saying for all | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
time, countries like Kuwait have to manufacture and maintain every | :23:38. | :23:43. | |
single part of their own defences? Lord Letwin was trying to drift | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
back to sleep to dream of the good old days of Downturn. The Troubles | :23:47. | :23:52. | |
of the world were keeping me awake. If you are going abroad you should | :23:52. | :23:58. | |
let the staff know when you'll be back. Thank you! Gave me my | :23:58. | :24:04. | |
favourite quotation of the year. What's the point of Nick Clegg? | :24:04. | :24:09. | |
The first Deputy Prime Minister in British history to fail to turn up | :24:09. | :24:13. | |
to work when the Prime Minister's across for a week. | :24:13. | :24:20. | |
I think I am wanting to ask - what's the point of Nick Clegg? | :24:20. | :24:25. | |
Still, I suppose travelling abroad does have its perils. You have to | :24:25. | :24:30. | |
be careful who you meet. Last week's media frenzy was not | :24:30. | :24:35. | |
unprecedented. It happens. We're a necessary free press and politics | :24:35. | :24:41. | |
collide. I believe, there was in some quarters, a personal | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
vindictiveness, that should worry all of us. Yes, it was all the | :24:45. | :24:50. | |
press's fault. My duvet, I think. No, it's not. | :24:50. | :25:00. | |
:25:00. | :25:03. | ||
It's mine. No, it's not. It's mine. What would Christmas Day and the | :25:03. | :25:11. | |
New Year bring? Who said social mobility is dead? So long as it is | :25:11. | :25:16. | |
downwards. The Prime Minister took a risk in Libya. It went right. The | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
gamble paid off. Yes, some do. This Week, we have been thinking about | :25:21. | :25:26. | |
Iraq with the Americans withdrawing. There's one that didn't come off. I | :25:26. | :25:29. | |
was very surprised that David Cameron after the experiences of | :25:29. | :25:35. | |
Iraq and Afghanistan would commit forces. He said you cannot enforce | :25:35. | :25:39. | |
democracy from 30,000 feet. It did come off. I think British foreign | :25:39. | :25:43. | |
policy is hard to understand. I think the rule of Bahrain was | :25:43. | :25:47. | |
recently welcomed in Downing Street. So, some dictators who have been op | :25:47. | :25:50. | |
pressing their people are welcome in Downing Street. Others are | :25:50. | :25:55. | |
bombed. I think there's a message there. If you expect consistency | :25:55. | :26:01. | |
you'll have a long wait. The most embarrassing pictures involve your | :26:01. | :26:06. | |
former leader and Mr Gaddafi. Blair and Mr Gaddafi. Best of | :26:06. | :26:11. | |
friends. They were embarrassing. There you go. That was new Labour | :26:11. | :26:15. | |
for you. All down to new Labour! Old Labour would not have touched | :26:15. | :26:25. | |
:26:25. | :26:26. | ||
him with a barge pole. Mr Scargill tried to get money out of it | :26:26. | :26:32. | |
think it was Napoleon who said, give me lucky generals. He was | :26:32. | :26:37. | |
lucky it did not turn into a ground war. There was consensus in the | :26:37. | :26:46. | |
House against that. Is the Arab Spring still spring, or is it now | :26:46. | :26:51. | |
winter Where I have been is in the south of Lebanon. It's on the | :26:51. | :26:57. | |
border of the north, it is kicking off. I run a charity for children | :26:57. | :27:02. | |
in camps in the south. I don't get much of a sense, once you are in | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
the camps you are not getting -- you are dealing the day-to-day | :27:06. | :27:13. | |
really. You do it and keep it going. | :27:13. | :27:19. | |
We have done things in those camps. Conditions are tough. Certainly for | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
the Palestinian refugees there. As the country as large I don't get | :27:23. | :27:28. | |
much of a sense. Don't you worry that all liberal revolutions devour | :27:28. | :27:35. | |
their own children. We've had the Muslim Brotherhood win in Tunisia. | :27:35. | :27:41. | |
The second biggest party, the party which came second, hard-line, much | :27:41. | :27:47. | |
more so than the Muslim Brotherhood. Syria, a clampdown, the Gulf run by | :27:47. | :27:56. | |
kings. It's not going great, is it? There's no sense, I don't think the | :27:56. | :27:58. | |
most crack-pot right-wingers in the Bushill administration, in the | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
States would have argued if you could somehow shove bits of the | :28:02. | :28:07. | |
Middle East in the direction of something resembleing democracy, | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
that would be democracy of a liberal democratic nature. It's not | :28:11. | :28:15. | |
just going to happen. It's all relative. There is a kind of | :28:15. | :28:19. | |
democracy in that region. It's called Iraq. A kind of democracy, | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
yes. Well, I suppose that's better than | :28:23. | :28:27. | |
what went before. I think the price that's got to be weighed is the | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
fact that of all those uncounted, unnamed, tens of thousands, perhaps | :28:31. | :28:38. | |
hundreds of thousands.... Certainly tens and tens. | :28:38. | :28:45. | |
The price was high. The memorys of that, in those families -- memories | :28:45. | :28:50. | |
of that in those families, will go beyond our grandchildren's lifetime. | :28:50. | :28:55. | |
You are in danger of saying because the Tunisian and Egyptian elections | :28:55. | :29:00. | |
have not worked out how we would have liked, that's not democracy. | :29:00. | :29:04. | |
Is a challenge. It is still democracy. | :29:04. | :29:09. | |
That's like saying Hitler was elected. When you elect people who | :29:09. | :29:12. | |
don't believe in democracy then you're in trouble. We will see | :29:13. | :29:18. | |
where we get to in the future. do you think the story will end, or | :29:18. | :29:24. | |
at least not end? What is the next stage? Well, in Egypt I think it is | :29:24. | :29:27. | |
possible that the Muslim Brotherhood will respect the | :29:27. | :29:31. | |
election process and there will be another election when their time is | :29:31. | :29:35. | |
up. I don't think we should despair of the Muslim Brotherhood. I don't | :29:35. | :29:41. | |
want to be starry eyed. I don't think we should throw our hands in | :29:41. | :29:47. | |
the air and say the whole thing is over. It is not. Yet they have | :29:47. | :29:54. | |
banned sun bathing and not wearing too many clothes in Sharm El-Sheikh. | :29:54. | :30:04. | |
:30:04. | :30:05. | ||
They have not actually done that. It's a definition where you have a | :30:05. | :30:10. | |
certain freedom to do what you want. In France, they banned the burqa. | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
Not when you are sunbathing. We are getting lost in the sunbathing | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
thing. We are. Certain policies decide to ban clothing and I think | :30:20. | :30:25. | |
that's bad. Are you as optimistic as Michael My optimism is so | :30:25. | :30:29. | |
heavily qualified, that it's not quite pessimism, but it's probably | :30:29. | :30:34. | |
realism, let's put it like that. How do you feel? I think you have | :30:34. | :30:38. | |
to be optimistic. That's where it's about negotiation with people | :30:38. | :30:42. | |
talking and being open. You have to wait and see. You don't think you | :30:42. | :30:47. | |
should make decisions here and now. There's a long way to go and you go | :30:47. | :30:51. | |
forward hopefully. The interesting thing would be to see what the West | :30:51. | :30:57. | |
reaction is, because we never saw this coming. Our expensive Foreign | :30:57. | :31:02. | |
Office camel corps never told us this was going to happen. It was | :31:02. | :31:05. | |
completely unforeseen this time last year. Maybe we have no idea | :31:06. | :31:10. | |
what will happen next. We usually have no idea about most things. | :31:10. | :31:14. | |
Jonny, come back in here. Show the audience how useless they are. | :31:14. | :31:22. | |
yeah. They're not bad. It is Christmas. The spirit of Christmas | :31:22. | :31:32. | |
:31:32. | :31:33. | ||
is still alive and well. Here we go. Which godfather, who got his just | :31:33. | :31:38. | |
desserts has the X Factor? better give them a clue. This would | :31:38. | :31:43. | |
be Gaddafi, perhaps. No. Much worse than that. If I give you a clue, | :31:43. | :31:49. | |
Michael, you will get it. It's Bashar Al-Assad. That's your two | :31:49. | :31:58. | |
strikes and you're out. The clue. Right. The perpetrator was taken in | :31:58. | :32:08. | |
:32:08. | :32:13. | ||
to custardy. This would be Osama Bin Laden. Right. Run the VT. I | :32:13. | :32:19. | |
know you did, Jonny. I was trying to make it easy. I thought it was | :32:19. | :32:23. | |
about being accused of being a godfather. Sometimes you need to | :32:23. | :32:29. | |
spell it out. Try another one, because we are on a roll here. | :32:29. | :32:34. | |
got to get this one. Which conference comedian has the X | :32:34. | :32:44. | |
:32:44. | :32:47. | ||
Factor? Give them another clue. She's not short of material. | :32:47. | :32:53. | |
should know this. A tall comedian. She is a conference comedian and | :32:53. | :32:59. | |
she is short. Oh, Sarah Teather. Run the tape. I want to get back to | :32:59. | :33:02. | |
my hotel room to watch Strictly Come Dancing. Do you watch it? Of | :33:03. | :33:09. | |
course you do. I heard they've got Peter haun booked for the next | :33:09. | :33:14. | |
series. He's -- Peter Hain booked for the next series. He's doing the | :33:14. | :33:20. | |
tango or has he been tang owed. Record has been out shopping with | :33:20. | :33:23. | |
Andy Coulson and they've bought him a pair of tap shoes for the next | :33:23. | :33:27. | |
series. Back to George Osborne, you heard he's quite keen to get on the | :33:27. | :33:37. | |
:33:37. | :33:39. | ||
show as well. He wants to do a line dance. She kept going. She didn't | :33:39. | :33:47. | |
know what to do. Jonny come back later. Sarah Teather has says she | :33:47. | :33:55. | |
no longer wants to borrow our script writer. Time to return -- | :33:55. | :33:57. | |
Time now to open our final Christmas present and return to | :33:57. | :34:00. | |
Downturn Abbey. Look at Michael's little face, he's so excited! What | :34:01. | :34:03. | |
will Santa bring Lord Letts and his struggling servants? Will butler | :34:03. | :34:06. | |
Maguire save Christmas and will they all return home to Downturn in | :34:06. | :34:16. | |
:34:16. | :34:29. | ||
It was Christmas morning. Lord Letts was still dreaming of a | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
return to the good old days of boom and bust, but outside the streets | :34:33. | :34:43. | |
:34:43. | :34:43. | ||
were full of festive cheer. Maguire, come quickly. Look outside. | :34:43. | :34:47. | |
Wow. Look at that. It's all kicking off down there. Looking really | :34:47. | :34:57. | |
tasty. Our revolutionary brothers and sisters are throwing off shir | :34:57. | :35:04. | |
shackles. Hor ray for -- their shackles. Horray for comrade | :35:05. | :35:10. | |
Cameron. Him next door will have to start helping around here. OK, | :35:10. | :35:15. | |
after I get his breakfast. Is it Christmas Day already? Revolution's | :35:15. | :35:22. | |
broken out. They are revolting. The prifleplgd lot like you will soon | :35:22. | :35:25. | |
be out db privileged lot like you will soon be out on your ear, but | :35:25. | :35:34. | |
first would you like breakfast? boiled eggs with soldiers. After | :35:34. | :35:41. | |
breakfast I persuaded Lord Letts to spread some good cheer. I bet | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
there's no-one else in that tent. The real protest ez are just | :35:44. | :35:49. | |
beginning. Remember what happened when the for -- protests are just | :35:49. | :35:54. | |
beginning. Remember what happened when the Tories tried to steal | :35:54. | :35:59. | |
pensions. Yes, lovely. To those considering strike action, at a | :35:59. | :36:05. | |
time when discussions or on-going, I would say to you these strikes | :36:05. | :36:09. | |
are wrong. Not that comrade Miliband always covered himself in | :36:09. | :36:14. | |
glory. He needs to be fiery and louder and clearer. He was good on | :36:14. | :36:17. | |
Murdoch and threw his lot in with the people in the tents, but then | :36:17. | :36:22. | |
disowned the striking workers. Sometimes it just feels like he's | :36:22. | :36:26. | |
not knowing whether he's coming or going. He had a pretty good middle | :36:27. | :36:32. | |
of the year. I like the way he took on that rueperts Murdoch. He's got | :36:32. | :36:39. | |
balls, but he -- Ruperts Murdoch. He's got balds, but he also has Ed | :36:39. | :36:42. | |
Balls. He's not going to get far until he dumps that Shadow | :36:42. | :36:51. | |
Chancellor of his. Poor old Nick Clog has gone to looking weedy. He | :36:51. | :36:55. | |
lost his referendum on electoral reform and on Europe and he had to | :36:55. | :36:59. | |
hide in his office instead of going to the House of Commons. You will | :36:59. | :37:04. | |
see a strong liberal identity in a strong coalition Government. You | :37:04. | :37:09. | |
might even call it muscular liberalism. All three have been arm | :37:10. | :37:14. | |
wrestling with factions in their parties. Nick Clegg on the | :37:14. | :37:19. | |
coalition. Cameron on Europe. And Ed Miliband on support for the | :37:19. | :37:26. | |
unions and strike. I hate to admit the only man who has come out | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
looking stronger is the man in charge and that's for all the wrong | :37:29. | :37:38. | |
reasons, David Cameron. Don't worry, I'm sure we'll all be back in | :37:38. | :37:41. | |
Downturn next year. Besides, I'm being paid my bonus and it's time | :37:41. | :37:51. | |
:37:51. | :37:54. | ||
you were given your presents. Happy Christmas. Thank you. But, my Lord, | :37:54. | :37:59. | |
it's a P45. Exactly, it's time you all joined the self-employed and | :37:59. | :38:06. | |
then we can all be millionaires. God save us, every one. So, dear | :38:06. | :38:09. | |
Polly I hope you are coping with life in the work house. Maybe next | :38:09. | :38:14. | |
year we'll all get back to Downturn. There's talk of a big push here in | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
Europe in the new year. Whatever happens, it's a lot safer than | :38:18. | :38:28. | |
:38:28. | :38:30. | ||
being back home. Merry Christmas. Great stuff. You kind of think the | :38:30. | :38:33. | |
acting profession hasn't got much to worry about. David, you | :38:33. | :38:37. | |
mentioned at the start, the riots and leaving London when they were | :38:37. | :38:40. | |
beginning to kick off. We have had the riots and the occupy movement | :38:41. | :38:45. | |
and public sector strikes. But given state of the economy and how | :38:45. | :38:50. | |
much people are hurting, isn't it surprising there's not been more | :38:50. | :38:54. | |
protests? There is, but the big danger is apathy. That people feel | :38:55. | :38:59. | |
they can't do anything or make any difference, that they are not being | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
listened to. I think last year was very interesting. I felt the riots | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
were the end of a really long list of things where people had looked | :39:07. | :39:11. | |
at this and there was no moral guidance from anybody. They were | :39:11. | :39:16. | |
looking at this sort of politician $and looking at the newspaper | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
industry and it -- politicians and looking at the newspaper industry | :39:20. | :39:24. | |
and it was as if the perfect storm had happened and then the incidents | :39:24. | :39:30. | |
in Tottenham just set it off. we clearer to know Diane, whether | :39:30. | :39:39. | |
the riots had some fundamental causes or were basically an abhor | :39:39. | :39:43. | |
ration? I think the Tottenham riot was different from what happened | :39:43. | :39:48. | |
after. It was a classic race riot. A black man died at the hapbtdz of | :39:48. | :39:52. | |
the police. But what -- hands at the police. But what cascaded and | :39:52. | :39:59. | |
what happened in Clapham and Salford, was different. I think | :39:59. | :40:03. | |
these are people that feel they have nothing to lose, no stake in | :40:03. | :40:08. | |
society. There's a horrible streak of terialism. They didn't look book | :40:08. | :40:15. | |
shops, but trainer shops and mobile -- materialism. They didn't loot | :40:15. | :40:21. | |
book shops, but trainer shops and mobile phone shops. Do you agree | :40:21. | :40:25. | |
with that? Yeah, I think I do. I would like to go back on the point | :40:25. | :40:29. | |
David made. I think public opinion is having an effect. I don't mean | :40:29. | :40:32. | |
riots, but public opinion. The coalition is committed to splitting | :40:32. | :40:37. | |
the high street banks from the investment arms. It is demanding | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
greater capitalisation of the banks. I think public opinion has kept the | :40:40. | :40:44. | |
focus on the problem of banking in this country in a serious way and | :40:44. | :40:47. | |
we'll see more action on the banks. I think middle England actually is | :40:47. | :40:53. | |
very cross with the bankers. It is very cross. In a sense it's | :40:53. | :40:58. | |
splietly surprising that the capitalist party is doing so well | :40:58. | :41:03. | |
in the polls. You were once the protest vote, the Lib Dems. That | :41:03. | :41:08. | |
ain't going to happen for the foreseeable future? I wouldn't have | :41:08. | :41:12. | |
thought so. There is a by-election on tonight, but I don't think there | :41:12. | :41:15. | |
is any evident in the course of this brief campaign that the Lib | :41:15. | :41:19. | |
Dems will be any beneficiaries of anything. You were going to come | :41:19. | :41:26. | |
behind the BNP or something. knows. We'll see the result. That | :41:26. | :41:32. | |
sense of escape valve has gone. Which the Liberal Democrats offered. | :41:32. | :41:35. | |
Labour are not offering it. The Conservatives in Government and | :41:35. | :41:38. | |
that means you have got to be careful here in England. That's | :41:38. | :41:42. | |
there's not a non-Parliamentary. There is an extreme form of | :41:43. | :41:46. | |
expression. That's why I just said to David it's surprising there | :41:46. | :41:51. | |
hasn't been more of an extra Parliamentary protest. It's our | :41:51. | :41:57. | |
yes/no interlude and I want yes or no, not maybe or ah. Will Ed | :41:57. | :42:04. | |
Miliband survive the year. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. I hate it when you | :42:04. | :42:10. | |
all agree. Will the coalition survive not just next year, but all | :42:10. | :42:18. | |
the way through to 2015, Charles? Yes. No. No. Yes. 50/50. I like | :42:18. | :42:28. | |
:42:28. | :42:29. | ||
that. Will 2012 be tougher than 2011? Yes. Yes Yes. You are all | :42:29. | :42:34. | |
right there. We ain't seen nothing yet. Nothing about the euro. | :42:34. | :42:40. | |
right. Will all 17 countries be members by the end of 2012 | :42:40. | :42:44. | |
answer is No. You can't wait for that to happen. Jonny come back. | :42:44. | :42:54. | |
:42:54. | :42:56. | ||
This is our final question. Which long, tall gadget freak has the X | :42:56. | :43:06. | |
:43:06. | :43:13. | ||
Factor? Give them a clue. She can't stop rab iting on. -- rab it -- rab | :43:13. | :43:19. | |
bitting on. Mr Bercow. -- Mrs Bercow. What's that noise? It's a | :43:19. | :43:27. | |
rabbit. Special thanks to Jonny and David for being our special guests | :43:27. | :43:34. | |
tonight. Diane we are used to. That's your lot for tonight folks. | :43:34. | :43:37. | |
In fact, that's your lot for 2011. It's mince-pie-and-a-pint night at | :43:37. | :43:40. | |
Annabel's, which means that if Charles' cab can run a few red | :43:40. | :43:43. | |
lights, within half an hour we'll all be happily snuggled-up in | :43:43. | :43:46. | |
Diane's regular booth - watching Michael do the hokey-cokey with | :43:46. | :43:49. | |
Alan Johnson and a drunken euro bond dealer called Stan. What a | :43:49. | :43:52. | |
wonderful life. But we leave you with, who else, everyone's | :43:52. | :43:55. |