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$:/STARTFEED. Tonight, join This Week for the | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
Great British political menu. For starters, we are serving up, what | :00:18. | :00:25. | |
else, horsemeat, with all the trimmings,. Jay Rayner gives his | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
review. If the supermarkets are going to make a dog's dinner, | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
perhaps it's time for the Government to take the reigns. | :00:32. | :00:37. | |
For the main course, we are feeding the squeezed middle. Jane Moore is | :00:37. | :00:41. | |
adding extra salt. As the coalition's shaky marriage heads | :00:41. | :00:47. | |
towards the rocks of a by-election, I'll be speed dating a selection of | :00:47. | :00:51. | |
galloping gourmets. Who will be my Valentine? Is political pudding | :00:51. | :00:55. | |
going out of fashion with men in the spotlight feeling the pressure | :00:55. | :01:02. | |
to look good, pop sensation Lamar flexes his muscles. You don't get | :01:02. | :01:07. | |
these from nothing. Men should take pride in their appearance, just | :01:07. | :01:11. | |
like Andrew. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the This Week | :01:11. | :01:14. | |
kitchen! Evening all. Welcome to This Week | :01:14. | :01:19. | |
where you find us here under starters orders, champing at the | :01:19. | :01:24. | |
bit with long faces all round. Despite the revelation that call me | :01:24. | :01:28. | |
Dave and Rebekah's horse has rocked up in Black Beauty pudding, when it | :01:28. | :01:32. | |
comes to looking a script gift horse in the mouth, we like to | :01:32. | :01:35. | |
think we have standards higher than Becher's Brook. Yet we are faced | :01:35. | :01:40. | |
with a hurdle that's impossible to clear, namely avoiding the stampede | :01:40. | :01:43. | |
of Shergar burger puns being trotted out around the press | :01:43. | :01:48. | |
paddock and our week began so promisingly dear viewers. As we | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
lounged around the This Week production office twiddling our | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
thumbs and fiddling our expenses, the only dead horse we plan to flog | :01:56. | :02:01. | |
tonight was sparkling, German and blue. But Azhar old MacMillan once | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
said, eventing dear boys. And now we are forced to shut the stable | :02:06. | :02:15. | |
door. How can we go on after all this after the puns have already | :02:15. | :02:25. | |
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bolted? So all we can offer you is our lack of originality is a | :02:27. | :02:33. | |
hygiene guarantee of our own. The programme you are about to consume | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
contains no contamination from either horse, pork, Donny or | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
Newsnight and that's a promise worth making. Speaking of show | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
ponies, heading for the glue factory, I'm joined on the sew | :02:45. | :02:51. | |
phaetonite by two of Westminster's most valuable studs, the Joan | :02:51. | :02:57. | |
Collins and Oliver Tobias of the late-night political chat. I speak | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
of Jacqui Smith and Michael Portillo. Your moment of the week? | :03:01. | :03:09. | |
Gary walk waug was paid at least �500,000 to be got rid of -- Gary | :03:09. | :03:16. | |
Walker. He was made to sign a gagging order. It was an Orwellian | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
situation. The National Health Service is causing the deaths of | :03:20. | :03:25. | |
patients and it's paying off with masses of taxpayers' money, people | :03:25. | :03:33. | |
to two away and say they've found fault with the system, and my quiz | :03:33. | :03:36. | |
question for the night is, is there anything that would shame the Head | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
of The National Health Service into resigning? Is there anything that | :03:40. | :03:43. | |
will shame the Government into firing this man? Interesting. Good | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
stuff. Your moment of the week? There's been dancing on the streets | :03:47. | :03:53. | |
of Westminster and around the world today as part of the one billion - | :03:53. | :03:58. | |
it's not you two - but still time, as part of the one billion rising | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
campaign. One billion relates to the one billion women likely to be | :04:01. | :04:06. | |
raped or beaten in their lives and this is a campaign where today | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
women and the men who want to support them got out on the streets, | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
danced and protested. It's a good example of a modern campaign. | :04:15. | :04:21. | |
Although in the UK it's been led by Stella Creasey, Shadow Home Office | :04:21. | :04:25. | |
Minister, it's cross party and non- party, it uses celebrities and | :04:25. | :04:30. | |
social media to spread the word, it's part of a really exciting | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
burgeoning new young feminist movement as well, so a very good | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
campaign, one I hope for which there'll be a lot of support. | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
will go on I suspect. Horsemeat passed off as beef is an issue that | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
is not going away. With each day, there's another of Michael's ready | :04:46. | :04:50. | |
meals recalled from the shelves. If it carries on like this, he's going | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
to waste away. What is to be done and who should take responsibility? | :04:54. | :05:00. | |
Who better to ask than food writer Jay Rayner. This is his take of the | :05:00. | :05:10. | |
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If ever there was a scandal designed for the self-satisfied | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
chatter of the British middle classes, it's that involving the | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
discovery of horsemeat in cheap ready meals. The argument will be | :05:28. | :05:34. | |
familiar, anybody buying overly cheap food gets what they deserve. | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
We should all abandon the supermarkets in favour of | :05:38. | :05:44. | |
independent shops like this one. In a perfect world, that rhetoric | :05:44. | :05:47. | |
would apply. Consumers have a responsibility for what they buy | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
and what they eat, but in an age of austerity with wages falling and | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
prices rising, food is one of the few things that people can cut back | :05:55. | :06:01. | |
on. Consumers cannot be blamed for shopping in the value ranges. The | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
blame lies elsewhere. The supermarkets must take some | :06:05. | :06:10. | |
responsibility. The sheer economic might of these corporates is | :06:10. | :06:17. | |
dangerous. They made this scandal all but inevitable by using their | :06:17. | :06:23. | |
huge buyer power by forcing the suppliers to cut corners. There is | :06:23. | :06:28. | |
a real economic incenti to pass horse off as its mooing cousin. A | :06:28. | :06:38. | |
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couple of rib-eyes, please. -- incentive. A proper corporate | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
social responsibility must come. In effect, they are custodians of our | :06:42. | :06:47. | |
food supply chain, but it's a task in which they've failed dismally, | :06:47. | :06:57. | |
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they must be called to account. Can Thank you very much. There's a | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
problem with regulation of the food industry. I don't think it's | :07:11. | :07:17. | |
coincidence that this scandal comes off the back of major cuts to the | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
organisations like the Food Standards Agency. I find it galing | :07:20. | :07:22. | |
that the Government should have been using the Food Standards | :07:22. | :07:26. | |
Agency as a political shield to take the flak while it gets to | :07:26. | :07:32. | |
grips with the crisis. If this scandal proves anything, | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
it's that these agencies need more powers, not fewer, not something | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
this Government supports. If the supermarkets will not police | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
themselves with sufficient riggour, the state will have to do it for | :07:43. | :07:53. | |
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them. Consumer trust depends upon -- rigour. | :07:55. | :08:01. | |
Welcome to the programme. Are the supermarkets fundamentally holding | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
the responsibility here? They're the ones who label the food and | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
they haven't done enough testing as to make sure the labels they put on | :08:09. | :08:14. | |
is accurate? Ie been speaking to a number of producers, it's one of | :08:14. | :08:19. | |
the things I do, they've all been saying to me for a long time that | :08:19. | :08:23. | |
the incredible tight detail, the tight crush on margins that the big | :08:23. | :08:25. | |
supermarkets enforce upon their producers was going to lead to | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
something or other. None of them foresaw that it would be horsemeat | :08:29. | :08:35. | |
instead of beef but they said it was absolutely inevitable. When | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
margins are cut that thin and when you are threatened with delisting | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
from the big companies, things will happen and they've said it's simply | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
a consequence. When I buy a Hamburger that says beef on the | :08:46. | :08:52. | |
label and it turns out to be in some cases 100% horse instead, is | :08:52. | :08:56. | |
my first port of call of blame the supermarket for misselling? | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
Obviously the retailer is responsible for what they've done. | :09:00. | :09:04. | |
There is a wider responsibility I think for the way various | :09:04. | :09:09. | |
Governments over 20 years, 25 years have allowed that market to develop. | :09:09. | :09:15. | |
You can go back to the early 90s when supermarkets expanded. They | :09:15. | :09:19. | |
ended up with the big ring road businesses and became dominant in | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
the food market. It's the economic mechanism which has resulted in | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
this so there is a role for Government and regulation and for | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
the supermarkets. I think the big companies should be paying in to a | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
central body who police them. The supermarkets have to take | :09:33. | :09:38. | |
responsibility, but in the end it's the job of Government to keep them | :09:38. | :09:42. | |
isn't it, the Government should have the back spot of regulation | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
that makes sure the supermarkets are doing what they should be doing | :09:45. | :09:50. | |
and that hasn't happened? One step back. I think British supermarkets | :09:50. | :09:55. | |
are superb. I think we get high quality food at good prices, | :09:55. | :09:59. | |
although the market's dominated by supermarkets there's intense | :09:59. | :10:03. | |
competition between them. When I travel abroad I'm struck by what an | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
amazing variety of products there are in the supermarkets. The basic | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
problem with Britain today is that you can have little chance of | :10:10. | :10:15. | |
ending up in handcuffs. We need more people in handcuffs, we need | :10:15. | :10:20. | |
Chief Executives of supermarkets in theory knowing they'll be arrested, | :10:20. | :10:25. | |
they should be responsible for the supermarkets. They should know what | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
is going on. It isn't the point of this programme at the moment, but | :10:29. | :10:35. | |
you can't end up in handcuffs for fixing interest rates or not | :10:35. | :10:45. | |
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looking after patients in hospitals. People are not going to take | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
seriously their responsibilities if they believe they are never going | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
to be held accountable for anything. I don't believe creating more | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
inspectors of supermarkets is going to solve the problem. There are | :10:55. | :11:00. | |
people already responsible, make their truly responsible. It's funny, | :11:00. | :11:06. | |
there used to be 1700 inspectors employed by the FSA, now there are | :11:06. | :11:13. | |
800 and we have a scandal. The FSA, they hadn't been testing for | :11:13. | :11:16. | |
horsemeat since 2003? But you have Trading Standard and Environmental | :11:16. | :11:22. | |
Health officers doing spot checks. We have seen massive cuts in | :11:22. | :11:27. | |
budgets, 32%. Nobody in the business predicted this was going | :11:27. | :11:33. | |
to happen. It is clearly a mess and one of these things... This is not | :11:33. | :11:40. | |
ever yet, there'll be a new thing coming out in the next few days. | :11:40. | :11:46. | |
Has Labour been right to be scaremongering on this? So far it's | :11:46. | :11:55. | |
a food labelling story, not a food safety story? Mary Creagh has been | :11:56. | :12:01. | |
active in stark contrast to... In the Select Committee today they | :12:01. | :12:07. | |
said the Government should be... Chaired by Anne Mackintosh, the | :12:07. | :12:13. | |
Tory MP... Yes and they'd been flat-footed. You had Owen Paterson | :12:13. | :12:18. | |
saying he'd eat a Findus lasagne, but you have the Minister for Food | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
saying... Unless somebody told him what it was! But the minister | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
saying these should be returned to the shop where you bought them from. | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
That's a confused message. You need to get to the bottom of it as soon | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
as possible, you need to tell the public what they need to know and | :12:34. | :12:40. | |
the Government need to get a grip. Do you think they've known? You've | :12:40. | :12:44. | |
got Owen Paterson standing there before going into that EU meeting | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
yesterday saying there were going to be more raids coming forward, we | :12:47. | :12:53. | |
think, although I don't really know. He sounds very, very flat-footed. | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
So much food regulation these days isn't done by national Government | :12:57. | :13:00. | |
now, it's European? But the national Governments have the | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
choice whether to fund the enforcement bodies. I do in one | :13:04. | :13:12. | |
regard agree with Michael. I'm not on principle against supermarkets, | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
they have been advantageous to food health in Britain, but they have | :13:16. | :13:22. | |
too much control of too much of the market. | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
Food scares are a nightmare for politicians aren't they? They are | :13:25. | :13:33. | |
and this is a prime example. Every scandal, they are so foolish to | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
give reassurances, they are urged by the Civil Service to give | :13:37. | :13:42. | |
reassurances and it's bonkers. You can't at one moment say it's | :13:42. | :13:45. | |
criminal activity which indeed it is and say there's nothing scary | :13:45. | :13:49. | |
about it. If it's a criminal activity you have no idea where | :13:49. | :13:54. | |
this stuff is coming from or what's been done to it. Why don't you | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
bring in the police? This is a scandal, because it's so come pleck, | :13:57. | :14:03. | |
people have chosen their targets, so some people who don't like our | :14:03. | :14:05. | |
European partners plumped for Romania despite the fact that it | :14:05. | :14:09. | |
was Ireland that pointed out the problem to us in the first place. | :14:09. | :14:14. | |
Some people who have a thing against supermarkets have chosen to | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
focus on supermarkets, I'm not saying you, Jay. Some people who | :14:18. | :14:22. | |
are concerned about quangos have chosen to focus on the FSA despite | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
the fact this Government took some of their powers back into | :14:25. | :14:32. | |
Government at the point at which they... Back into DEFRA? Exactly. | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
A lot of reasonably well off broadcasters are saying we need to | :14:36. | :14:41. | |
go back to the local butchers, see meat raw again and all the rest of | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
it. This is driven by chicks and for a lot of not well off people, | :14:46. | :14:53. | |
they are north-wested to buy those things -- forced to buy those | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
things? All those culpable, you have the enforcement agencies, the | :14:57. | :14:59. | |
investment companies, the Government and supermarkets, right | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
down the bottom I think I'm going to put the people who've been | :15:04. | :15:07. | |
buying the stuff as culpable, and in fact I wouldn't put them on | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
theley. Those consumers are in tight economic circumstances. They | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
went and bought either brands or from retailers that they had every | :15:15. | :15:21. | |
right to trust and they've been let down. Do you normally think that | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
instant mass produced food is cheaper? It's all about economies | :15:26. | :15:30. | |
of scale. When you break down some of the deals and what goes into | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
this stuff, it's terrifying they've managed to get it at that priesz. | :15:34. | :15:40. | |
It does scare me. There's this great myth that the poor are time | :15:40. | :15:47. | |
rich and cash poor. But actually, often, they are time poor and cash | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
rich, they don't have the time to do these things and the cost-of- | :15:51. | :15:55. | |
living is enormous and the proportion of their income. We talk | :15:55. | :16:00. | |
about how small a proportion of income, 10-11% food is, not if you | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
are on a low income, suddenly it's 30 or 40%. It's unlikely that this | :16:05. | :16:10. | |
will change our eating habits very much? We are still going to buy | :16:10. | :16:20. | |
modern lifestyles and we'll still go for this stuff? We are seeing | :16:20. | :16:25. | |
change, consumer power is calling big businesses to account, like we | :16:25. | :16:33. | |
saw in Starbucks. You have electronics companies like Amazon | :16:33. | :16:36. | |
producing in dodgy factories. You will see consumer pressure to the | :16:36. | :16:46. | |
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supermarkets to clean up their act. It's late. Crimewatch Update late, | :16:49. | :16:57. | |
damn you Kirsty Young, damn you BBC schedule yulers. But stick with us. | :16:57. | :17:03. | |
As if this studio wasn't drop dead gorgeous enough, waiting in the | :17:03. | :17:07. | |
wings is Lemar, to talking about the pressure on men to look good. | :17:07. | :17:13. | |
And for those of you who want to avoid any form of "internet | :17:14. | :17:21. | |
grooming", we do ignore all your desperate pleas for attention on | :17:21. | :17:27. | |
the Fleecebook, the Twitter and our website. It wouldn't be right if I | :17:27. | :17:30. | |
didn't wish you a happy Valentine's Day, so I take it upon myself to | :17:30. | :17:36. | |
fill the gaps in your personal life. We are a romantic lot here on This | :17:36. | :17:42. | |
Week. Honestly. It is hard to get Michael to sit on his side of the | :17:42. | :17:48. | |
sofa sometimes. But it hadn't been all kisses and cuddles at | :17:48. | :17:55. | |
Westminster. The Sun's Jane Moore did get a date tonight. This is her | :17:55. | :18:05. | |
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So it's Valentine's Day, when romantic and commercially minded | :18:14. | :18:17. | |
couples squeeze themselves into restaurants all over the country | :18:17. | :18:20. | |
too show their love for one another. Still I suppose we all need | :18:20. | :18:24. | |
something to celebrate. What with Ed Miliband pointing out that we're | :18:24. | :18:30. | |
all worse off... People are working harder than ever before. But for | :18:30. | :18:36. | |
far too many, wages are falling and prices are rising, and they feel | :18:36. | :18:41. | |
worse off, not better off. there is one thing I'm not willing | :18:41. | :18:47. | |
to compromise on. Also I don't really want to miss out on the | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
national "lurve"-a-thon either, so I thought I would try a spot of | :18:51. | :19:00. | |
speed dating. I'm so hungry I could eat a horse. Starter, prawn | :19:00. | :19:07. | |
mayonnaise. Main course, rib-eye steak and a side-saddle. Dessert | :19:07. | :19:15. | |
Red Rum Baba? I hope my first date is more appealing. I know I said I | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
wanted a stable relationship but this isn't quite the Italian | :19:19. | :19:28. | |
stallion I had in mind. Now Tesco and Findus lasagne is off | :19:28. | :19:36. | |
the menu for most, the horsemeat crisis deepens daily. It has become | :19:36. | :19:41. | |
a nightmare for David Cameron. Prime Minister is rightly shocked | :19:41. | :19:49. | |
that many products contain 100% horse. Does it -- that if tested | :19:49. | :19:56. | |
many of his answers may be 100 bull? I really think we've got to | :19:56. | :20:01. | |
get a grip of this rather than make a joke about it. But they are so | :20:01. | :20:11. | |
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tempting. A horse walks into a bar... Time for my next date. | :20:13. | :20:18. | |
From man you were to mature. I know I like an older man but I reckon | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
his hip goes out more than he does. Still, maybe he will benefit from | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
the Government's plans to finance some care for the elderly. One in | :20:26. | :20:30. | |
ten of us will spend more than �100,000 on our social care costs. | :20:30. | :20:35. | |
By putting a cap in the limit on how much anyone has to pay, we will | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
make it possible for people to plan much earlier in their life. First | :20:39. | :20:47. | |
their child benefit was cut, then the marriage tax postponed, now the | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
inheritance tax pledge abandoned. Little wonder that the Tory middle | :20:52. | :20:58. | |
classes are feeling slightly hard done by. Some feel that by paying | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
inheritance tax they've already paid the cost of their old care and | :21:01. | :21:06. | |
now they are being singled out to pay the cost for others. Time for | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
my next date. Let's hope it's an improvement shall we? Hop it, | :21:10. | :21:20. | |
granddad. Hello, I don't suppose you get out | :21:20. | :21:24. | |
much do you! As Chris Huhne wishes he could turn back the clock, no, | :21:24. | :21:30. | |
hang on a mint, maybe not. He awaits his fate, which may be a | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
custodial sentence. In his former constituency of Eastleigh, a host | :21:34. | :21:42. | |
of suddenly concerned politicians are jockeying for position speed | :21:42. | :21:47. | |
dating potential voters. It must be a crucial by-election. You have to | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
show that you can hold on to seats like this in the south of England. | :21:50. | :21:55. | |
If you cannot, your prospects for the elections are pretty poor. | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
confident we will hold on the this seat but not because I say so but | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
because the people of Eastleigh like the fact that's Liberal | :22:04. | :22:09. | |
Democrats who've been cutting council tax. I've seen a few by- | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
elections in my time and nothing settles until all the candidates | :22:12. | :22:18. | |
are there. We know from the opinion polls that we are ahead or we are | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
just lightly behind, so I think there's a lot to find for. Labour | :22:22. | :22:27. | |
is here to set out our one-nation alternative and to give people a | :22:27. | :22:33. | |
way of sending a real protest to the G There is this huge issue of | :22:33. | :22:42. | |
Romanian and Bulgarian entry next year in unlimited numbers. Jobs and | :22:42. | :22:48. | |
house itting are real issues here. A rocky patch in the coalition's | :22:49. | :22:54. | |
uneasy marriage. I know you are not supposed to talk | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
about politics or religion on a first date but I've messed up on | :22:58. | :23:03. | |
the politics already, so I might as well go for broke. So, are you a | :23:03. | :23:09. | |
believer? Hang on, are you sure you're looking for a relationship? | :23:09. | :23:18. | |
That's a big a shock as the Pope resigning from Vatican City to join | :23:18. | :23:23. | |
Vatican United. Is that right? You're jogging -- you're joking, | :23:23. | :23:32. | |
the Pope? Oh, my God. Oh, I'm so shocked. He has been such a short | :23:32. | :23:40. | |
time with us. Meanwhile Rupert Murdoch has tweeted that he's | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
considering putting page 3 out to grass. Mind you, as he's been | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
saying that in private for the past decade at least, it is a bit of an | :23:49. | :23:53. | |
old horse chestnut, so I wouldn't hold your breath. Time for my last | :23:53. | :24:03. | |
:24:03. | :24:05. | ||
day. Maybe topless isn't so bad after | :24:05. | :24:15. | |
:24:15. | :24:15. | ||
all! Cheers. They really blew the extras budget | :24:15. | :24:20. | |
on that one. That was Jane Moore, with special thanks to Miles of "My | :24:20. | :24:24. | |
Cheeky Butler". I must remind you that you can find a full list of | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
all the candidates standing in the Eastleigh by-election on the BBC | :24:28. | :24:34. | |
News website. We have to do that, so I've done it. | :24:34. | :24:41. | |
Michael, can the Tories still hope to win the next election if living | :24:41. | :24:47. | |
standards in 2015 are lower than 2010? Yes. Government can win | :24:47. | :24:52. | |
elections in all sorts of circumstances. I fleb the 1980 | :24:52. | :24:57. | |
winning an election with 3 million unemployed. It depends crucially on | :24:57. | :25:01. | |
whether people believe that the opposition is ready to take over, | :25:01. | :25:05. | |
which is why Ed Miliband's appearance today is quite | :25:05. | :25:13. | |
interesting. Mr Miliband, he is going to ask the Reagan question | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
used so effectively in 1980. He said, are you better off than you | :25:18. | :25:25. | |
were in 1976? Mr Miliband will say, are you better off now than in | :25:25. | :25:32. | |
2010? Mr Reagan wasn't in power in 1976 but Mr Miliband was in 2010. | :25:32. | :25:36. | |
That's part of the reason why he's not only put in place some headline | :25:36. | :25:38. | |
policies that illustrate the economic approach to he wants to | :25:38. | :25:45. | |
take, but to put in place with the 10p tax rate a policy that says we | :25:45. | :25:48. | |
got it wrong in Government and this is one of the ways in which we are | :25:48. | :25:51. | |
going to demonstrate that we've learnt that lesson. Do you think | :25:51. | :25:57. | |
that on the scrapping of the 10p tax rate, he said, quote, that was | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
a mistake made by Gordon Brown. Will the voters give him credit for | :26:02. | :26:08. | |
track his old boss? That is the problem of course with trashing | :26:08. | :26:11. | |
your record in Government and continuously apologising for your | :26:11. | :26:15. | |
record in Government. To be fair Gordon Brown himself has said he | :26:15. | :26:22. | |
was wrong about that decision. bet Gordon is really comfortable | :26:22. | :26:28. | |
about the way Ed Miliband said that today. I hope there were no mobile | :26:28. | :26:35. | |
phones lying around. I suspect he will hope Labour wins the next | :26:35. | :26:37. | |
election. It is a tactical thing. It is much more important what's | :26:37. | :26:42. | |
happened under the coalition, which has been under a lot of Lib Dem | :26:42. | :26:48. | |
pressure, to lift the threshold at which people pay tax to �10,000. If | :26:48. | :26:53. | |
you make a 10p tax rate, Miliband said today it was worth �2 a week, | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
but once you've taken off the effect on benefits and so on it is | :26:57. | :27:03. | |
probably 66p. It is nothing. week? A week. It is a �1,000 band | :27:03. | :27:09. | |
at the moment on which the 10p will... That's assuming the mansion | :27:09. | :27:14. | |
tax gets you �2 billion. I've seen estimates that suggest you will be | :27:15. | :27:21. | |
lucky to get �1 billion. To be fair about the �2 billion, those are | :27:21. | :27:28. | |
figures that are based on IFS figures. I think they might be | :27:28. | :27:32. | |
based on the Lib Dems. That should give you confidence. That's the | :27:32. | :27:38. | |
other point about this, this is the adoption of a policy the Lib Dems | :27:38. | :27:42. | |
have promoted. The 10p tax rate, if you increase the rate at which you | :27:42. | :27:48. | |
pay tax, you benefit those people at the bottom. If you reintroduce a | :27:48. | :27:54. | |
10p tax rate you benefit 25 million basic rate taxpayers as well. | :27:54. | :28:01. | |
Except those on the very high. everyone who is paying income tax | :28:01. | :28:05. | |
benefits as well: Isn't the reason Ed Miliband said it today is that | :28:05. | :28:12. | |
he fierce it is going to be done in a budget? Therefore it is also... | :28:12. | :28:21. | |
It is one of the reasons why Gordon Brown wanted rid of it. To make a | :28:21. | :28:29. | |
real difference, tour create a 10p tax rate between 9,500 and up to | :28:29. | :28:33. | |
12,000, the total cost is �7 billion. That would make a | :28:33. | :28:38. | |
difference but there is no mansion tax, unless you want to kill the | :28:38. | :28:43. | |
housing market in Britain altogether, that is ever going to | :28:43. | :28:50. | |
make �7 billion. The 10p is a �1,000 band today. And raises | :28:50. | :28:55. | |
nothing. 67P as Michael says. it makes a very important point for | :28:55. | :29:00. | |
all taxpayers and reinforces the argument that Ed Miliband is making. | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
An echo of Barack Obama, that the difference a Labour Government | :29:03. | :29:08. | |
would take is to build the economy from the middle. But that whole | :29:08. | :29:12. | |
squeezed middle is not only the people who are suffering gurks | :29:12. | :29:18. | |
people who will provide the everyone us to grow. Put aside the | :29:18. | :29:23. | |
detail. Having interviewed Ed Balls today the details are sketchy. | :29:23. | :29:29. | |
Looction at the direction of the travel. Tax the -- location of the | :29:29. | :29:33. | |
direction of travel. Use the proceeds to cut the tax of the rest. | :29:33. | :29:38. | |
Does that still have potency in the 21st century? I suspect so, as | :29:38. | :29:42. | |
there are many more people who regard themselves as poor as rich. | :29:42. | :29:46. | |
However, the introduction of a wealth tax, which is what it is, is | :29:46. | :29:52. | |
a major step. It breaks with all press den, except that we have been | :29:52. | :29:56. | |
before in a situation where you tax people on their assets who may not | :29:56. | :30:02. | |
have any income. It generally ends badly, because among the people who | :30:02. | :30:07. | |
own these �2 million houses are people who are retired and have no | :30:07. | :30:11. | |
income. They are asset rich and income poor. Thefpblts will be | :30:11. | :30:17. | |
driven from their houses. They will be driven from their houses. | :30:17. | :30:21. | |
other policy is social care and the inheritance tax. Do the | :30:21. | :30:25. | |
Government's proposals broadly make sense or not? Well, they broadly | :30:25. | :30:33. | |
make sense in as much as they are the model that Andrew Dilnot | :30:33. | :30:37. | |
brought forward in terms of the look he took at this. They make | :30:37. | :30:41. | |
sense because this is an enormously important area that needs to be | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
solved for the long term. The difficulty with them is that while | :30:44. | :30:48. | |
they make sense in five years' time they don't solve today's problems. | :30:48. | :30:54. | |
They of course in setting the cap at �57,000 set it considerably | :30:54. | :31:01. | |
higher than Dilnot profd, therefore impact on fewer people. -- proposed, | :31:01. | :31:11. | |
:31:11. | :31:18. | ||
therefore impact on fewer people. $:/STARTFEED. It's potty. They are | :31:18. | :31:23. | |
introducing a thing which will penalise everybody by restricting | :31:23. | :31:26. | |
the threshold on inheritance tax. So everybody knows they are going | :31:26. | :31:32. | |
to be poorer and none of the people who benefit know it will be them | :31:32. | :31:37. | |
who benefit. Everybody knows this is about protecting the legacies | :31:37. | :31:42. | |
passing from well off people to their well off children. It seems | :31:42. | :31:46. | |
ludicrous when we are in a period of austerity to expand ways of | :31:46. | :31:53. | |
expanding the welfare state. Isn't the source of this the tuition | :31:53. | :31:59. | |
fees? The Tories made a promise at the last election in 2007 to raise | :31:59. | :32:05. | |
the inheritance tax threshold to �1 million. They are cutting that in | :32:05. | :32:10. | |
real terms. For those who voted Tory for that... The irony is that | :32:10. | :32:16. | |
that was the promise that stopped Gordon at the election. It's huge. | :32:16. | :32:22. | |
Just as the Lib Dem's fees was. And this is too? And all for nothing, | :32:22. | :32:31. | |
for a policy that doesn't make any sense. Final question to you, jack | :32:31. | :32:34. | |
quay -- Jacqui. How should Labour fight this. He's the one-nation | :32:34. | :32:40. | |
Labour guy so he needs to show well in places like that -- show he can | :32:40. | :32:49. | |
do well in places like that. He could let the Tories in because of | :32:49. | :32:54. | |
the Lib Dem votes? It's about trying to get back to the pre-1977 | :32:54. | :32:58. | |
situation when we say we could win in the south. What about his | :32:58. | :33:04. | |
dilemma? The better he does has got to be the expense of Lib Dem | :33:04. | :33:07. | |
defectors. The more Lib Dem defectors, the more likely the Tory | :33:07. | :33:11. | |
also win? I think in the long run the most important thing is for him | :33:11. | :33:14. | |
to show that Labour with him in leadership is in a position where | :33:14. | :33:18. | |
it could gain the sort of votes in the south where it would be | :33:18. | :33:23. | |
necessary... So if he only comes a half decent third, that's good | :33:23. | :33:27. | |
enough even if it means giving the seat to the Tories? You can't back | :33:27. | :33:32. | |
off on the basis that you might at some point in the future want Lib | :33:32. | :33:36. | |
Dem support because he wants to win a majority and the only way you can | :33:36. | :33:41. | |
do that is if you are going to get decent votes in places like | :33:42. | :33:45. | |
Eastleigh. According to highly reputable | :33:45. | :33:51. | |
research which we found on the Internet, faced with a choice of | :33:51. | :33:55. | |
candidates for president, more often than not, Americans choose | :33:55. | :33:59. | |
the tallest. They also historically tend to go for the heavier. For the | :33:59. | :34:06. | |
Republicans looking for a winner for 2016, the obvious one is Chris | :34:06. | :34:12. | |
Christie of new Jersey. Why is he getting so much grief for packing | :34:12. | :34:18. | |
the political pounds? All 300 plus of them? We decided it was time to | :34:18. | :34:28. | |
:34:28. | :34:36. | ||
weigh up this issue and put male body image in this week's Spotlight. | :34:36. | :34:41. | |
Whether it's A listers or politicians, there is strict image | :34:41. | :34:47. | |
guidelines and pressure to look the part. Although fashionable facial | :34:47. | :34:52. | |
hair was the accessory on the red carpet, in Westminster, the lack's | :34:52. | :34:58. | |
never gone down well. Chris Christie is feeling the brunt | :34:58. | :35:03. | |
of an image conscious society with questions raised over what he's too | :35:03. | :35:10. | |
fat to be president. Maybe that's why call me Dave's been stepping up | :35:10. | :35:14. | |
his exercise regime and revealing this week he got a �7 conditional | :35:15. | :35:19. | |
500 discount from his personal trainer. Nick Clegg claiming he's | :35:19. | :35:25. | |
finally off the ciggies and there's been accusations that Harold | :35:25. | :35:30. | |
Wilson's pipe has been airbrushed from BBC screens to give him a | :35:30. | :35:40. | |
:35:40. | :35:42. | ||
Take it from me and I know a lot about male style, if looking good | :35:42. | :35:46. | |
is key to popularity, maybe a bit of Lamar's swagger is what | :35:46. | :35:53. | |
politicians need to impress the voting public. | :35:53. | :35:58. | |
I'm delighted to say we are joined by Lamar. Welcome to This Week. You | :35:58. | :36:02. | |
are looking good obviously. Obviously we are too! Obviously, | :36:02. | :36:08. | |
yes. Obviously. How much pressure are you under as a man to stay | :36:08. | :36:12. | |
looking sharp? I don't know if pressure is the right word, but you | :36:12. | :36:17. | |
have to stay conscious of your appearance, especially in a day and | :36:17. | :36:23. | |
age where Twitter is massive, the spwe net is, it's a very digital | :36:23. | :36:29. | |
age -- Internet. There are lots of uncharitable people out there? | :36:29. | :36:36. | |
a bad picture lasts a lifetime these days. People in your position, | :36:36. | :36:42. | |
more often than not you have been judging looks rather than music? | :36:42. | :36:49. | |
They go hand in hand, you know. It's a very visual age we live in. | :36:49. | :36:55. | |
Suppose you put on a few pounds, grew a straggly beard, would that | :36:55. | :36:59. | |
affect your career? Would the record company say, what's | :36:59. | :37:03. | |
happening?: luckily on this album I'm the record company so no-one | :37:03. | :37:07. | |
can tell me anything. What would you say to yourself? Get it in gear, | :37:07. | :37:13. | |
come on, look at the way you look, come on! So it would matter? | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
depends on the motivation, as long as the motivation's right. If you | :37:17. | :37:20. | |
are staying healthy because people are picking on you, maybe not, but | :37:20. | :37:24. | |
if it's because you want to look good, you don't like what you see | :37:24. | :37:29. | |
or you would rather you wore something different, why not. | :37:29. | :37:34. | |
Governor Christie too fat to be President? He may be. I think there | :37:34. | :37:40. | |
was a President who was his weight but the concern the voters have is, | :37:40. | :37:43. | |
will this man last the presidential term because nowadays, so little | :37:43. | :37:48. | |
consideration is given to choosing the Vice-President. The Vice- | :37:48. | :37:52. | |
President is chosen for all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do | :37:52. | :37:55. | |
with their suitability to become President if something goes wrong. | :37:55. | :38:02. | |
You worry, are you going to get a Sarah Palin who ran for the | :38:02. | :38:06. | |
Republicans four or five years ago? So you must worry. People are | :38:06. | :38:16. | |
always poking fun at Eric Pickles. Sometimes cruelly. He's got a way | :38:16. | :38:21. | |
of using his weight to his advantage? Yes, he is funny like | :38:21. | :38:25. | |
Chris Christie was there. The idea that I am going to be sympathetic | :38:25. | :38:30. | |
to a bunch of men moaning about the fact that they are getting judged | :38:30. | :38:36. | |
on their appearance is a little bit difficult for me. Like you even | :38:36. | :38:40. | |
repeating that point. You guys have to get over yourselves and get on | :38:40. | :38:46. | |
with it. The thing that often gets people is that politicians are, | :38:46. | :38:49. | |
particularly Government ministers and oppositions, are always | :38:49. | :38:53. | |
lecturing us on health and what we should be eating. Smoking - when | :38:53. | :39:00. | |
you look at them - they are not the healthiest themselves are they? | :39:00. | :39:06. | |
think it takes all sorts, if you are in the public eye inevitably if | :39:06. | :39:10. | |
you are waking up seeing images of you that you don't particularly | :39:10. | :39:15. | |
like, you are going to make an effort in whatever way to improve | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
that. Whether it affects your ability to do your job, I don't | :39:20. | :39:27. | |
know... What's this thing about the Holyrood stars, and you -- | :39:27. | :39:32. | |
Hollywood stars, and you yourself, like when I asked George Clooney at | :39:32. | :39:37. | |
a party myself and Ben Affleck as well. I'm not a name-dropper, but I | :39:37. | :39:41. | |
said, I'll see you tomorrow and Thursday. What's this thing about | :39:41. | :39:46. | |
beards? They are all wearing them at the moment, aren't they? They | :39:46. | :39:53. | |
are, yes. I wish I could grow a bit more but my genetics don't allow me. | :39:53. | :39:58. | |
This is as good as it gets. Beards have always been a no-no in | :39:58. | :40:04. | |
politics, haven't they, in modern times? Yes, although we showed a | :40:04. | :40:09. | |
few there. David Blunkett maybe for special reasons but Robin Cook, | :40:09. | :40:19. | |
:40:19. | :40:20. | ||
Alistair Darling, there are some. Things go through phases, don't | :40:20. | :40:26. | |
they. They all got rid of their beards. Perhaps led by Ben Affleck | :40:26. | :40:32. | |
and Lamar, who knows, perhaps we might see more. An incredible | :40:32. | :40:37. | |
amount of work to be done on them, they are sculpted. They are works | :40:37. | :40:41. | |
of art. They are. When you look back at British political history | :40:41. | :40:44. | |
was there ever a time when the three party leaders were just as | :40:45. | :40:49. | |
fit looking as they are now? They are all quite young men, very, very | :40:49. | :40:53. | |
presentable, they've got good firks, they make an issue of their health, | :40:53. | :41:00. | |
it's a sign of the times, isn't it -- good figures. Men in the public | :41:00. | :41:04. | |
eye now, are they not really just having to endure this kind of | :41:04. | :41:09. | |
judgment which women in the public eye have always had to endure? | :41:09. | :41:19. | |
:41:19. | :41:20. | ||
I think so. Because it's such a digital age and one pictures | :41:20. | :41:25. | |
travels -- picture travels quickly and one picture lasts a long time, | :41:25. | :41:33. | |
people are conscious of their image. BBC Parliament's running footage | :41:33. | :41:39. | |
about the Harold Wilson years, there were pictures of Harold | :41:39. | :41:48. | |
MacMillan and Mr Douglas-Hulme, looks do seem to matter more now | :41:48. | :41:52. | |
than they do now. Is that the television age? I'm not sure if | :41:52. | :41:56. | |
they do, but if they do, it's Lamar's point that we live in this | :41:56. | :42:01. | |
television age where you have to make an impact very quickly on the | :42:01. | :42:08. | |
television in photographs and if you can't do that, you... Harold | :42:08. | :42:12. | |
Wilson was the man who came into our living room through the | :42:12. | :42:17. | |
television screen and it wasn't good looks. It was the Yorkshire | :42:17. | :42:23. | |
accent, the first TV Prime Minister. Why the Tories picked Heath because | :42:23. | :42:31. | |
they tried to match it. What are you up to? Promoting an album | :42:31. | :42:38. | |
called Invincible. I'm just having a really good time celebrating my | :42:38. | :42:43. | |
fifth album so it's great. Stay off the chips! There you go, I'm | :42:43. | :42:45. | |
trying! That is your lot for tonight. It's | :42:46. | :42:49. | |
not for us though, because with the devastating news that Roman | :42:49. | :42:54. | |
wrestling is to be dropped from the Olympics, Michael's wiping away the | :42:54. | :43:04. | |
:43:04. | :43:07. | ||
tears and wiping on the baby oil for one last time. We leave you | :43:07. | :43:14. | |
tonight with a glorious moment from this week's PMQs, speaker Bercow | :43:14. | :43:24. | |
:43:24. | :43:24. | ||
doing his very, very, very, very best... Thank you, Mr Speaker. | :43:24. | :43:29. | |
Schools... Sorry, Mr Speaker, the opposition don't want... Very | :43:29. | :43:39. | |
:43:39. | :43:43. |