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Tonight, This Week is bewitched by Westminster.

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Not an enchanting tale, as Culture Secretary Maria Miller is dunked by

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the press and then forced to resign. The Spectator's Isabel Hardman

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assesses whether there was any kind of witchhunt.

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Culture secretary Maria Miller whizzes she could wriggle her nose

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and cast a spell to make her expenses problems go away. In the

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end, she disappeared in a puff of smoke. With improving economic news,

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Chancellor George Osborne wants to conjure up a boom before the next

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general election. Former Dragon and Businessman with money-making powers

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Theo Papthetis is a supernatural-confident. Shopkeepers

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have magic powers. We see things before anyone else. And the Irish

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President certainly put a spell on us, with a first ever state visit to

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the United Kingdom. So, what's the magic ingredient that attracts so

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many people to Britain? Irish comedian Aisling Bea reveals all.

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Dignity, always dignity. When shall we three meet again? On

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This Week, of course Evening, all. Welcome to This Week. An historic

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week, with the first ever official visit of the Irish head of state. At

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the state banquet, the Queen naturally wore her Crown, while

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Martin McGuinness looked fetching in his favourite balaclava. It was the

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week in which a largely unknown cabinet minister's 15 minutes of

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fame and fortune, let's not forget, ended with her return to obscurity,

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from which she's unlikely ever to return. I've forgotten her name

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already. And it was the week in which the divine David Cameron

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claimed to a Christian group that, by promoting the Big Society, he was

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merely following in the footsteps of our Lord Jesus Christ and doing

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God's work here on earth. The fact that he did this to the strains of a

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soprano singing the hymm Ave Maria only goes to show that religion and

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irony are not incompatible after all. If there are things that are

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stopping you from doing more, he told his congregation, think of me

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as a giant Dyno-Rod. I guess that's the sort of thing you learn in the

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dormitories of Eton of a night. And for those of you who've forgotten

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what the Big Society is, it's just like the Big Issue - except nobody

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buys it. Speaking of those things nobody would buy even at a massive

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discount, and even if they came with a Miller-sized expense account. I'm

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joined on the sofa tonight by two men who are celebrating the 20 year

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anniversary of Britpop and were both big in the 90s. Think of them as the

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Liam and Noel of late night political chat. I speak, of course,

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of #manontheleft Alan "AJ" Johnson. And #sadmanonatrain Michael "All

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Aboard" Portillo. Your moment of the week. I was very pleased that Nigel

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Evans, the former deputy speaker, long serving of Parliament was

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cleared of all charges laid against him. His reputation has taken a

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terrible kicking. He looked like a half broken man. I believe there is

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more kicking of his reputation to come. I want to put it on the record

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how much Parliamentary colleagues that I knew, I thought he was one of

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the most straightforward, loyal, decent, reliable people I ever came

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across. For that reason, I'm pleased, at least, that he has not

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suffered the horror of being found guilty of these charges. Not one of

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the nine, was he found guilty. As a former Home Secretary, I want to

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talk to you later about what this means for the Crown Prosecution

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Service. Before we get there, what is yours? The public disclosure act,

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which introduced protection back in the late 90s, it was not perfect. It

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was very difficult to know who a whistle-blower would go to to blow

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their whistle too. There was a number of prescribed people. They

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could go to the National Audit Office or the ombudsman, but that's

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a pretty daunting task. From this week they can go to any member of

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Parliament. Why? Because a member of Parliament, not one of mine, a

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conservative, David Davies, he slogged through a ten minute Bill,

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went to the progress of getting Government support, went to talk to

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the opposition and now it has become a statutory instrument. Practically

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nobody knows about it. In a week when perhaps the worst side of

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Parliament has been shown, I think it's a good example of the hard slog

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of politics that gets you no particular praise, but will have

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been very beneficial for a lot of people. If you are a whistle-blower,

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you might be careful which member of Parliament you go to, some are more

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executive minded than the executive. Everyone else is delighted, Andrew.

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I'm just putting that warning out there, you can't trust them all.

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According to the ever humble Maria Miller, in the end she had to go

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because she'd become a distraction. The Chancellor was miffed that we

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work to preoccupied with her to notice that the International

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Monetary Fund. Forecasts had been too pessimistic and they now think

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they will be the fastest-growing economy in the G7 this year. But

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given their atrocious record of predictions, is it really time to

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unscrew a bottle of the blue stuff? But the IMF is not alone in saying

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this is a more robust recovery than expect it. We turned to the nation's

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favourite shopkeeper, former Dragon Theo Paphitis. This is his take of

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the week. As a shopkeeper, icon of all people,

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recognise the importance of consumer spending. I've been saying it for a

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while and now, if consumers are spending it shows they have still

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got confidence the economy. Now, I have been positive all of the way

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through this recession. Why? Because it is my third one. My only concern

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is if we can keep interest rates down, preserve employment. The

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answer, yes, we did. All this talk of the squeezed middle, what a load

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of political claptrap. You are electioneering. As far as I'm

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concerned, it doesn't actually exist.

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The so-called squeezed middle, as far as I am concerned, have not done

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too bad out of this recession. Mortgage rates have gone down to

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unprecedented levels, leaving a bigger disposable income. The worst

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they have had to do is tighten their belts a little bit, miss out on

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their ski holiday and maybe change the car a little less frequently.

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So, if the so-called squeezed middle have not paid the price for this

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recession, who has? Those at the bottom, the poor. They have seen

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rent go up, their fuel costs go up and, in some cases, their benefits

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go down. Quite rightly, the Government has

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tried to bring down our welfare bill. That has come at a cost. The

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cancer on our society, payday lenders and the rise of food banks.

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Whilst brilliant, there's no reason they should exist. In my opinion,

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politicians have stopped focusing on people in the middle, they should

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focus on people at the bottom. And from the Centre Court Shopping

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Centre in Wimbledon to our own little shopping centre here in the

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heart of Westminster. Theo Paphitis, welcome to the show. Now, after the

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crash, we lost 7% of our GDP, more than we did in the great

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depression. The economy is still smaller than it was in 2007. Wages

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have been trailing prices for years. Are you really sure this recession

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hasn't hurt badly? It certainly has, you probably remember the last two

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recessions as well. The first two were really painful, unemployment,

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queues at the dole office, it didn't happen this time. Employment and

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interest rates were the keys, that made a massive difference. As we

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have seen, some of the poorest in society have, unfortunately, paid

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the price. What do you say to that? I would say the middle-income group,

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the squeezed middle, probably their quality of life has not eroded as

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much. They have tightened their belts a little bit. So I agree with

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that. But you can't get away from the fact that wages on average down

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?1600. The red book on the budget just a few weeks ago said that by

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the next election wages would be down by 5.6%, real wages. Gas

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fires, rail fares etc, it has had an effect on everyone. It had an effect

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on a group of people that are not in the category where you probably

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wouldn't go to food banks, but they are also not getting the benefit of

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the decrease in high rate of income tax. In that sense, there is a real

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problem. Theo? The squeezed middle, what a load of nonsense. It's more

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like the squeezed bottom! I think I've heard you say that a couple of

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times. We had food in times when there was excessive everywhere. All

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they had to do was get rid of some of those excesses. They have

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relatively remained unscathed. The bottom end have suffered, but the

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middle have suffered. It's very difficult for the group of people in

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the middle who have seen an effect on their income, that didn't happen

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in the previous two recessions, actually. There was not that

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reduction in real take-home pay. Come on, you are old enough to

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remember the facts, you don't have too make it up. Let me bring Michael

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in here, well you recover. I suppose a more modest way of saying what

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Theo is arguing is that the last six years have hardly been great, but

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there has not been, for most people, abject misery. Most folk

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have, with a bit of belt tightening, managed to make ends meet? I think

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it's very solitary if you go abroad and see what people in Spain and

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Greece say, Italy, Ireland, where there have been massive adjustments

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in property prices. I think property prices is at the heart of what Theo

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is arguing. If you are a property owner, the fact that interest rates

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have remained so low, for so long, it has been of extraordinary

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benefit. You would have expected to pay much more for your mortgage. All

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of this has come at a price, in economic terms. We have not made the

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adjustment that other countries like Ireland and Spain have made in

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property prices. We left them very high. This is because the Government

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didn't want anyone to be repossessed. There have been very

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few repossessions. But it means we have a credit fuelled recovery, not

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an exporter fuelled recovery. It means we are in danger of going back

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into the cycle. Except there is no rise in negative equity, none at

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all. In fact, negative equity is in decline. Unsecured debt, largely

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credit card debt, has risen only modestly. I think when you look at

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the debt figures, there is little evidence to say this is a recovery

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fuelled by debt. First of all, people in properties feel much

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richer. I understand that. And their mortgages have gone down, the point

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you have been making. If you keep interest rates at 1% for six or

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seven years, you can bet that people, sooner or later, are going

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to start borrowing again. It's too good a deal. Overall, households are

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still paying down their debt. It follows from what you said, if you

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are right. Ed Miliband constantly banging on about the squeezed

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middle, if you are right, he is saying something that is not

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resonating? The middle is not squeezed, it won't resonate? They

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have to concentrate on the realities. It seems like a great

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thing, if you want to appeal to a wider electorate. That is what we

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do. The reality is, as far as the middle is concerned, they have had a

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pretty soft landing. Let's talk about the bottom as well. I

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understand the point you make about them being squeezed. You also make

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the point that employment has remained high. That is of immense

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benefit to people in the bottom. A lot of people that might expect to

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be unemployed or not. Maybe the squeezed middle, if it has been

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resonating, will run out of steam? There is a poll in the standard

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tonight that shows 80% of the public that shows there is an issue, so it

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does not look like it is running out of steam. Now, a cost of living

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problem, Labour saying there is a crisis. If you take tax and benefits

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alone, that average group in the middle has lost around ?980. That

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figure only works when you include the top 10%. Make the top 10% to

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come out and then do the average it comes to ?400. Still a squeeze. So

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Theo, this is all wonderful Abbas Khan I did not say it is all

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wonderful, I am a realist. You have to accept there is a problem, Theo?

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The problem came when we went into the deepest recession. You lot went

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off, the other lot came in and then it is the public who have got to put

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up with it. Now you're saying oh my God, it was so terrible. Now we were

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out of the recession by five successive quarters of growth. We

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were supposed to continue that level of growth. If you look at the state

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of the French or Italian economies, the Spanish, all of them have shown

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some growth. The eurozone, the US is growing. Not as fast as the UK

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economy. That is because it has already grown. Slowest recovery from

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any American recession in history. And the same in Britain, also.

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Things seem to have changed. I think anybody accepts there is a recovery

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underway. Labour is slightly ahead in the polls, inflation is falling,

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unemployment is falling, living standards are starting to rise

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again. This is not the economic backdrop Labour thought it would he

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fighting the election on? I think anyone who is analysing this would

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have expected us to make a recovery by the 2015 election. Probably not

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as strong as it has turned out to be? Michael's point, that it is

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based on easy credit. It is not. Once those interest rates go up, as

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they inevitably will. The man in Weston-super-Mare will start feeling

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things are getting better. A year ago, Labour said there was no

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recovery and the government have two change its strategy. But the IMF has

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admitted it was wrong. I don't think anybody could count on this recovery

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a year ago. Just over a year ago, a feeling had set in that the recovery

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was so slow, we wondered if it was going to come back. We now

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absolutely take for granted the recovery, but we also forget that

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until recently we did not count on it at all. Surely the point that

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still resonates, when it comes to 2015, for most people, they will

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still not be as well off. They will be less well off in 2015 than they

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were when this coalition come to power? A lot of people expected a

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lot, a lot worse with the recession than it turned out. In some ways

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they will feel very relieved. CEO won't be the only person in the

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world to remember who was in power when the recession began. It is too

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difficult question for this time of night.

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Now it's late. "Chief Whip, Sir George Young, knocking on Maria

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Miller's door with a pearl-handled revolver" late. But unlike Maria,

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Blue Nun passes the smell test... Sort of. So hold your nose and pour

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yourself another. Because waiting in the wings is Irish actor and

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comedian, Aisling Bea, to talk about the visit of the Irish President and

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the attraction of coming to Britain. And if you have any moral

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superiority left in you after the sorry saga of Ms Miller, feel free

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to vent your synthetic outrage at us on The Twitter, The Fleecebook and

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the Interweb. It's not as if we actually bother reading any of your

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comments - so fill your boots. Now. MPs head off on their Easter

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holidays next week and so do we! For me, it's a two-week

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all-expenses-paid holiday at an exclusive resort Down Under with

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Wills and Kate! For Michael and Alan, it's an

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all-paid-for-by-expenses stay in a pokey flat in Basingstoke

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masquerading as a family home with Maria Miller! Sorry guys, she's

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really not suffered enough. So to get us all in the mood for Easter,

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we sent the Spectator's Isabel Hardman to learn from one of

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London's top chocolatiers William Curley. Here's her EGG-cellent

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round-up of the week. See what I did there? Who writes this stuff?!

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Hello. I am busy preparing Easter treats for the This Week team.

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Making chocolate takes a long time, longer than 32 seconds. If you are

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not careful you could end up like our politicians with a bit of a

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sticky mess. Sorry, Chef! On Monday, the Prime Minister

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started with a trip to the supermarket. Not his favourite one,

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he is a Waitrose kind of guy. But as they had an Easter off on, get

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thousand of jobs for free. But the journalists had something else on

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their minds. Maria Miller is in her job because she is doing a good job

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as Culture Secretary. She went through this process and the

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committee found she had made a mistake in her mortgage claim so she

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repaid money, made an apology. I think that is the right thing to do.

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Come on Isabel, let's move it. But Downing Street melted faster than a

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chocolate teapot and failed to sell the tie any support the Maria

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Miller. And Esther McVey were given free rein to criticise Maria Miller.

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It is at times like this is a minister needs his or her bag

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carrier to step up to the plate for them. I'd do think this is a

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witchhunt by the media, who are angry about the leather some

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reports, equal marriage and they are taking it out on Maria. Many in the

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Conservative Party thought it was her clumsy text messages that did

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the Maria Miller. She tried to sweeten her constituents by penning

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an emotional piece for her Basingstoke local newspaper. Perhaps

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if she had written this on the day she spoke in the Commons, she could

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have support -- survived. Support was like gold dust. It is a question

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of honour. She should quietly have gone to the Prime Minister and said,

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I think I should go. And the Prime Minister should have said, yes,

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thank you for doing a good job, you can come back at some time later.

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Honour is saved at all that, I am out raged about it. Even so, most of

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us thought she would try to stick it out until Wednesday when

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Conservative backbenchers meet at the committee. As journalists were

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sharpening pencils in anticipation when Mrs Miller decided to take an

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early Easter break. I hoped that I could stay but it has become clear

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to me over the last few days this has become an enormous destruction

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and it is not right I am distracting from the incredible achievements of

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this government. -- enormous destruction. Was she pushed, Ord did

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she jump? Number ten has shut down all

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discussion repeatedly saying it was Maria Miller's decision to go. It

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sounds like she did get a visit from someone and it probably wasn't the

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Easter Bunny. What really did for Maria Miller was a mix of backbench

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fear of the public backlash, a lack of warmth from senior colleagues and

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the Chancellor's allies were furious that this news about the economy was

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lost in the mix about the ongoing Maria Miller model.

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What have we got here? Oh dear. It's not up to standard. The Minister has

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dominated the agenda. Labour's pledge to give English councils ?20

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billion disappear faster than 32 second apology. So a PMQs, Ed seized

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his opportunity. He said six days ago she had done the right thing and

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should leave it up that. Does he realise it is a terrible error of

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judgement? Why didn't he call on her to resign? He seems to be the first

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leader of the opposition in history to come to this house and make the

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first suggestion someone should resign, after they have already

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resigned. I have heard everything! It is my job to fire members of his

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cabinet. In opposition, David Cameron prided himself on his

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finesse in judging the public opinion. But he has misjudged the

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public mood now and many Tory MPs are worried it has left them looking

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vulnerable before the European elections. Still, there is one bit

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of politics guaranteed to leave you with the sweet taste, and a sugar

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high. Andrew, this is for you. Michael, what did you make of the

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shambles? One of the biggest shambles I have ever witnessed in

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British politics? Because? Unnecessary? David Cameron had

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decided his government was going to be whiter than white. Maria Miller

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had been forced to make an apology to the House of Commons for being

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uncooperative with the investigating authority. Any Secretary of State

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who found people were being uncooperative with her or with him

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would be outraged. I don't see how you can have a member of the cabinet

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apologising to the house who had been uncooperative with the

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authorities. That was a sack of all offence in itself. I think David

:26:27.:26:31.

Cameron should have said, I told you things were going to be different

:26:32.:26:36.

under me, I don't think she has done anything wrong, but she did not

:26:37.:26:43.

cooperate, so she has gone. He would have saved himself a week of

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terrible publicity. And he was worried that she must not be hounded

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out by the newspapers. But what he achieved is that she has been

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hounded out. If she had gone before the first began, that implication

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would not have been carried. I suppose what happened was, he got

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distracted by the thought she was going to be bullied and Harry ride

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the Daily Mail, the Daily Telegraph and the other unhappy newspapers.

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But that should not have clouded his judgement. The point to focus on is

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she had done something not come -- compatible with her position as

:27:27.:27:31.

Cabinet minister. David Cameron is not the first to do this, spend so

:27:32.:27:36.

much political capital on a relatively obscure politician, that

:27:37.:27:38.

no one had really heard of in the country. Was regarded by many people

:27:39.:27:45.

as not very good at her job in the first place. Yet he is out on a

:27:46.:27:53.

limb. Why does that happen? Not exactly a household name before This

:27:54.:27:58.

Week. She sure is now! David Cameron does seem to have a little bit of a

:27:59.:28:04.

fetish of this idea of personal loyalty. We saw this also with Andy

:28:05.:28:12.

Coulson. It is as if he sees it as his own code of honour. Which in

:28:13.:28:17.

theory is not a bad thing? In the right circumstances it can be an

:28:18.:28:20.

admirable quality. But as Michael said, if you know what you might end

:28:21.:28:29.

up having to do, do it quickly because a week of these front pages

:28:30.:28:33.

has been bad for the Prime Minister. Do you think the political class in

:28:34.:28:39.

general forgot how bad this is? No, Betty Boothroyd had it right. Nobody

:28:40.:28:46.

was expect a Maria Miller to get away with this. When David Cameron

:28:47.:28:52.

was in opposition, a lot of decent Tories went, he sacked them in

:28:53.:28:58.

opposition. He said it was wrong. There was no way her house in

:28:59.:29:07.

Wimbledon, in which her husband, her children and parents lived was her

:29:08.:29:11.

second home. It starts from that ASIC points and builds from there.

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The frustration for politicians on all sides who were tearing their

:29:15.:29:18.

hair out last week because she was still there, people seem to think

:29:19.:29:22.

that is still the system. This system has changed completely. If it

:29:23.:29:29.

happened now it would be an independent person dealing with it.

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Maria Millie was only dealt with under that process because it was a

:29:34.:29:40.

legacy before 2010. I read articles from a usually very informed

:29:41.:29:43.

journalist that seem to have missed that point. David Cameron back to an

:29:44.:29:52.

events and nobody to defend her until it was too late? It was the

:29:53.:29:58.

wrong wicket to be batting on. Just to dwell on hard strawberry this has

:29:59.:30:03.

all been, as you pointed out, we had this fantastic economic news,

:30:04.:30:10.

completely lost. The beginning of the European elections, completely

:30:11.:30:15.

drowned out. In one year's time, we will be in a general election

:30:16.:30:18.

campaign. To have a Government associated with the sleaze of MP

:30:19.:30:21.

expenses, one year before the election, it is a calamitous

:30:22.:30:27.

outcome. So easily avoided. Do you think there was an element of a

:30:28.:30:34.

witchhunt in this by the papers? Many people are saying it. I don't

:30:35.:30:41.

know anybody in the newspapers who thought that Maria Miller was a

:30:42.:30:45.

formative figure in the Leveson process. She just happen to have the

:30:46.:30:55.

portfolio. It was Oliver Letwin, the Prime Minister. Nobody thinks she

:30:56.:30:58.

was important, so I doubt see why the papers would have created a

:30:59.:31:05.

witchhunt. Your point of David Cameron expending so much political

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capital, it would be odd for the papers to blend -- rent their spleen

:31:09.:31:17.

on this. On gay marriage as well, she wasn't the influence. It was the

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Prime Minister will who forced this. Are you not surprised, as I was

:31:25.:31:28.

surprised, that the Prime Minister did not replace Miss Miller with one

:31:29.:31:35.

of the number of rather, just as there are on the Labour side, the

:31:36.:31:39.

number of rather bright young Tory women? I was surprised, but I do

:31:40.:31:44.

think that the new Secretary of State for culture is very

:31:45.:31:52.

interesting. He is of Pakistani origin, working class background,

:31:53.:31:58.

completely self-made. So he's a really interesting appointment.

:31:59.:32:03.

Esther McVey would have been interesting. Pretty Patel, who

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happens to be a woman and an ethnic minority. Absolutely. What he has

:32:07.:32:13.

ended up with is a cabinet with the proportion of women in it going down

:32:14.:32:17.

all of the time. When he came into Government he promised to have 40%

:32:18.:32:22.

of his ministerial team female. We have half the percentage of women in

:32:23.:32:27.

our cabinet that Rwanda has, less than half. Rwanda! If you were

:32:28.:32:34.

inventing a parliament, as they did in Rwanda, you presumably were...

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That is what they are dealing with. Francois Hollande has 52%.

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Absolutely. This point of giving the women's Minister position to

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somebody who is not a full member of cabinet and reporting to a man,

:32:58.:33:02.

extremely unhealthy. There is not a mother, does that matter? I think it

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does, being one myself, I know that women's lives change radically when

:33:09.:33:11.

they become mothers. You look at things slightly differently. You

:33:12.:33:16.

care about things differently as well? Your economic circumstances

:33:17.:33:20.

change completely, if you don't have people who understand that

:33:21.:33:22.

experience, you will have lined spot on policy. On gay marriage, he has

:33:23.:33:30.

managed to appoint a woman responsible for women's issues who

:33:31.:33:35.

voted against gay marriage, so people are now saying she is

:33:36.:33:39.

Minister for heterosexual women. Final thought, Michael? I think

:33:40.:33:43.

there has to be a reshuffle because I think we do need to have more

:33:44.:33:47.

women and more ethnic minorities. The real issue is who is in the

:33:48.:33:52.

inner circle. The cabinet is in public display, but the people

:33:53.:33:56.

really calling the shots are a small group close to the Prime Minister,

:33:57.:33:59.

some of whom are in parliament and some of whom are not. I'm very few

:34:00.:34:05.

of whom are women. They don't let girls into Eton! Dick Whittington

:34:06.:34:22.

found that the streets of London were not paved with gold. Whilst

:34:23.:34:25.

Maria Miller found that the streets of Wimbledon most certainly were -

:34:26.:34:28.

to the tune of over ?1 million, minus capital gains tax - if she

:34:29.:34:32.

ever gets round to paying it. So, with such riches to be made from so

:34:33.:34:36.

little effort, is it any wonder people from around the world want to

:34:37.:34:40.

come, and live, and claim expenses in Perfidious Albion? And so, on the

:34:41.:34:43.

day when those annoying fact-checkers at the Office for

:34:44.:34:45.

National Statistics revealed we've underestimated the number of recent

:34:46.:34:48.

migrants by at least 350,000, we've decided to ponder why people bother

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and put "Coming to Britain" in this week's Spotlight.

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Once upon a time, the headliner Martin McGuinness toasts the Queen

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would have shocking connotations. But the former IRA man showed times

:35:12.:35:13.

have changed for the better at Windsor Castle this week. The

:35:14.:35:19.

banquet was in honour of Michael D Higgins, the first-ever state visit

:35:20.:35:23.

by an Irish President, who spoke of friendship, shared history, but not

:35:24.:35:30.

forgetting our troubled past. The intertwined histories of Ireland and

:35:31.:35:34.

Britain have indeed no great turbulence. But we meet at a time

:35:35.:35:37.

when the relationship between hers has never been more friendly or

:35:38.:35:45.

respectful. So, what have his charm and stature done for Anglo-Irish

:35:46.:35:49.

relations? For a start, it shows Irish visitors no longer labour

:35:50.:35:53.

under the impression they are not welcome at the top table. Foreigners

:35:54.:35:58.

come to Britain for lots of reasons. One MP is determined to find out

:35:59.:36:02.

why, living undercover as a migrant, trying to understand why so many

:36:03.:36:09.

young Poles want to move to Britain. If only he had asked the

:36:10.:36:14.

Education Secretary. He told cabinet that people come here for a variety

:36:15.:36:18.

of attractions, one of them being, and I quote, loads of hot sex.

:36:19.:36:24.

# It's getting hot in here, to take off all your clothes... #

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So, what makes our fair isle so attractive? In a week when Ireland

:36:30.:36:35.

and Britain moved closer together, are people more ready to put the

:36:36.:36:39.

past behind them in search of a brighter future?

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How about that? How important was it to see the head of state of Ireland

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sitting down at a state banquet? Hugely important. Odd balaclava

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jokes aside, it was an amazing thing to see. I moved to win in seven

:37:07.:37:09.

years ago. If you had told me then they would be hanging tricolours

:37:10.:37:17.

alongside union Jacks on the road to Buckingham Palace, you would have

:37:18.:37:20.

laughed your head off. To see them now, as someone who lives here, it

:37:21.:37:26.

is sort of a beautiful thing. Going back to the balaclava, even more

:37:27.:37:31.

remarkable was Martin McGuinness? It really was. There was a lot of

:37:32.:37:37.

controversy about it, obviously. But it is sort of a testament to

:37:38.:37:40.

humanity that can happen. It is sort of one of those things where you go,

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God, we are not robots, we are humans and we get over things. If

:37:45.:37:48.

you put anger aside, the amount that can be achieved in such a short

:37:49.:37:53.

amount of time is remarkable and a testament to human people. To

:37:54.:37:59.

humans, rather. The lead up to what happened, the huge success of this

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week, it can go back to the Queen's visit to Ireland three years ago,

:38:06.:38:09.

which laid the groundwork for this? Absolutely. Even in the week in the

:38:10.:38:15.

lead up to that, people were still naysaying. Report of a bomb on a bus

:38:16.:38:20.

from Dublin, quite serious threats. As soon as she stepped off the

:38:21.:38:27.

plane, in a green outfit, spoke a bit of Gaelic, everybody went, oh,

:38:28.:38:33.

she's lovely, just like your old mother, just like your mother. How

:38:34.:38:40.

popular William and Kate are as well, that has filtered into

:38:41.:38:51.

everybody's psyche. The Queen's magnanimity in this is exceptional.

:38:52.:38:54.

I think she has played more of a political role on Ireland than she

:38:55.:38:57.

has ever played on any other subject. Her willingness to go to

:38:58.:39:02.

Ireland, lay a wreath, her willingness to have Martin

:39:03.:39:08.

McGuinness in Buckingham Palace, remembering the assassination of

:39:09.:39:11.

Lord Mountbatten by the IRA, this is an extraordinarily personal mission

:39:12.:39:17.

the Queen has undertaken, without parallel and without precedent. One

:39:18.:39:20.

of the consequences has been, as the Prime Minister claimed this week,

:39:21.:39:24.

and I think he was right too, that Anglo-Irish relations have been good

:39:25.:39:27.

for some time now. But they have never been better? No. I think in

:39:28.:39:34.

terms of what Her Majesty did, what Martin McGuinness did was hugely

:39:35.:39:39.

brave. It's no good celebrating what has happened in Northern Ireland. I

:39:40.:39:45.

used to represent members killed on duty, 16 of them assassinated during

:39:46.:39:49.

the troubles, I was always over there as a union official. You can't

:39:50.:39:52.

celebrate that and failed to recognise the courage it took from

:39:53.:39:59.

people on all sides. I think that is an aspect of it. It would have been

:40:00.:40:02.

easy for him to play to the gallery and say, I'm not going to go. It

:40:03.:40:06.

doesn't make him any less of a Republican that he's gone to the

:40:07.:40:10.

Palace. He has taken his responsibilities seriously and that

:40:11.:40:20.

is remarkably brave. I think in politics you really respect people

:40:21.:40:23.

that aren't looking for glory or the vote, genuinely looking for change.

:40:24.:40:27.

I think that is what all of this is. What was really appreciated, the

:40:28.:40:31.

symbolism was so huge, especially with the tensions. When the Queen

:40:32.:40:34.

came over three years ago, and she doesn't normally speak the language

:40:35.:40:38.

of the place she visits, she arrived and spoke a little line of Gaelic,

:40:39.:40:43.

of Irish, at the start of a meal that they were having. It was so

:40:44.:40:47.

huge to hear the Queen of England speak a line. A tiny bit of

:40:48.:40:52.

symbolism that makes a huge difference. Martin McGuinness, he is

:40:53.:40:57.

bowing his head, but he's not... There was a slight gesture there.

:40:58.:41:01.

For her, to welcome him, when her family had been affected. What we

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had on Spotlight is why people want to come to Britain. I wonder why,

:41:08.:41:11.

for most people, it is not so much Britain they want to come to, it is

:41:12.:41:16.

London? London is a beautiful city, I have been living here for seven

:41:17.:41:20.

years and I love it. Why did you come here? To steal your jobs. I

:41:21.:41:25.

moved over here to go to drama school. I moved over here seven

:41:26.:41:30.

years ago, before the crash in the economy. I sort of moved over here

:41:31.:41:35.

out of choice and opportunity rather than necessity, which is a nicer

:41:36.:41:38.

reason to move anywhere. When I moved here, I was immediately

:41:39.:41:43.

involved in the community, the artistic community. I have always

:41:44.:41:47.

felt a familiar tie to London. I feel part of it. There are very few

:41:48.:41:57.

Cockney geezers left in London. Where you come here, you sort of

:41:58.:42:03.

become a Londoner. If you move to Dublin, you will never become a

:42:04.:42:07.

Dubliner. Have the natives been friendly? I haven't talked to many

:42:08.:42:14.

of them, I haven't been able to go out in these tropical climes. Some

:42:15.:42:23.

of my best friends are you people! These aren't Londoners, these

:42:24.:42:27.

Scotsmen and... I can't tell difference. There is a huge Irish

:42:28.:42:32.

community in London. It does amazingly well. There is the Irish

:42:33.:42:37.

Centre in Camden, which doesn't just look after... We run the London

:42:38.:42:42.

Irish comedy Festival, it doesn't just look after the elderly people,

:42:43.:42:46.

it also looks after the vulnerable young people that come over on

:42:47.:42:51.

Ryanair, expecting everything to be amazing. To quit hint? There is a

:42:52.:42:59.

support system? You are happy to be here? -- Dick Whittington. The And

:43:00.:43:07.

there is also loads of hot sex. That is the real reason you came? I can

:43:08.:43:15.

confirm the reports. That is your lot for tonight, but not for us. It

:43:16.:43:22.

is the smell test, and Michael is wearing his Teen Spirit, just for

:43:23.:43:26.

the occasion. We leave you tonight with the increasingly gorgeous

:43:27.:43:30.

George. Windsor, that is, not Galloway. He already looks like he

:43:31.:43:33.

has a way with the girls. Good night, don't let the return of cool

:43:34.:43:38.

Royal Britannia bite.

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