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Tonight on This Week, as Jack Bauer and 24 returns to our screens, and | :00:14. | :00:19. | |
hits the streets of London, this may be the longest night of your life. | :00:20. | :00:29. | |
The political clock is ticking. It's only 363 days until the general | :00:30. | :00:36. | |
election. Can Agent Ed Miliband follow protocol and secure victory | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
at the polls? Blairite journalist and and former trade union official | :00:41. | :00:43. | |
Dan Hodges thinks time is running out fast for the Labour leader. Ed | :00:44. | :00:55. | |
Miliband is no action hero. And to be honest, I can't see him being | :00:56. | :00:57. | |
Prime Minister either. When it comes to the proposed | :00:58. | :01:00. | |
takeover of AstraZeneca by US rival Pfizer, the Prime Minister and Ed | :01:01. | :01:04. | |
Miliband clash over whether the ends justify the means. BBC political | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
operative James Landale is on the mean streets of Westminster. This | :01:08. | :01:15. | |
issue goes to the heart of the debate that is dominating politics. | :01:16. | :01:20. | |
Ed Miliband wants to be the man who is taking on the predators for the | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
people. David Cameron wants to be the man who is bringing business and | :01:25. | :01:26. | |
jobs to Britain. And a terror plot that's far from | :01:27. | :01:29. | |
fictional, almost 300 girls kidnapped in Nigeria by Islamist | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
militants scared of girls being educated. Comic, writer and | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
campaigner Ruby Wax talks intellectual confidence. And some | :01:37. | :01:49. | |
people have more confidence than intellect. I'm not naming names, | :01:50. | :01:54. | |
Andrew. Copy that. I'm Federal Agent Andrew Neil. You | :01:55. | :01:58. | |
are gonna tell me what I wanna know. It's just a matter of how much you | :01:59. | :02:00. | |
want it to hurt. Evenin' all. Welcome to a special | :02:01. | :02:15. | |
halal edition of This Week, where being ritually slaughtered on Blue | :02:16. | :02:18. | |
Nun is always clearly stated on the menu. Differentiation is the name of | :02:19. | :02:22. | |
the game this week, with self-styled Deputy PM Nick Clegg deciding to | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
oppose a Tory plan to jail automatically anyone convicted twice | :02:27. | :02:32. | |
for carrying a knife. Cleggover dismisses the two-stabs-and-your-out | :02:33. | :02:35. | |
policy as a headline-grabbing stunt, which makes it a first in British | :02:36. | :02:43. | |
politics. Not! But it raises an intriguing philosophical question. | :02:44. | :02:46. | |
Given David Cameron fought the last election promising to "send a | :02:47. | :02:49. | |
serious, unambiguous message" by automatically jailing anyone | :02:50. | :02:51. | |
convicted only once for carrying a knife, can the Lib Dems really be | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
criticised for opposing a policy Call-Me-Dave deemed inadequate at | :02:56. | :03:03. | |
the last election? Can they? I'll leave you to ponder and get back to | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
me. Speaking of existential conundrums that make your head | :03:08. | :03:10. | |
explode, I'm joined on the sofa tonight by two strategic assets the | :03:11. | :03:13. | |
Americans would love to get their hands on. Think of them as the | :03:14. | :03:16. | |
AstraZenica and Louisiana Purchase of late night political chat. I | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
speak, of course, of #sadmanonatrain Michael Portillo and #baffled Diane | :03:21. | :03:32. | |
Abbott. Welcome, both. Your moment, Michael. Very sadly the ill-health | :03:33. | :03:38. | |
of Chris Patten means there has been a new chairman of the BBC Trust. I | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
have always supported the licence fee but have recently come to the | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
conclusion that it can no longer be justified in terms of competition, | :03:47. | :03:50. | |
apart from anything else. You now have so many outlets and platforms | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
in the media that have one, the BBC, with all of its programming and its | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
website funded by taxpayers in competition with everybody else | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
seems unjustifiable. I think the BBC needs to get on with thinking about | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
that. I don't think being chairman of chief executive of the BBC can | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
any more be about defending the licence fee and trying to squeeze | :04:12. | :04:14. | |
the most out of the government, and hoping it will keep pace with | :04:15. | :04:18. | |
inflation. Somebody has to be doing the intellectual exercise of | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
thinking about a BBC beyond the licence fee. I fear that the last | :04:23. | :04:25. | |
three years have been lost in that respect. Enjoy your final programme | :04:26. | :04:32. | |
tonight! I am sure it will be a happy retirement. I assume you have | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
ruled yourself out. That wasn't your application for the job, was it? I | :04:39. | :04:44. | |
think that was not a job application! Your moment of the week | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
is to mark it is a sad story but it was President Goodluck Jonathan's | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
statement about the abduction of hundreds of Nigerian girls, three | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
weeks after it occurred. It is a very difficult task. The terrorists | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
may have melted over the border, but I think the completely inadequate | :05:05. | :05:06. | |
response of the Nigerian government, I don't think they realised how it | :05:07. | :05:11. | |
looks to the rest of the world. It looked like he was forced. Exactly. | :05:12. | :05:18. | |
I also read that some of the mothers went to see his wife and she had one | :05:19. | :05:22. | |
of them arrested. If ever there was a leader out of touch with his | :05:23. | :05:28. | |
country, it is him. When you see headlines saying that the SAS are on | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
the way, you can be sure the SAS will be nowhere near. Yes. | :05:33. | :05:35. | |
Now, it may have passed you by, but yesterday marked a year to go till | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
the next general election. Wow! 12 whole months of electioneering, | :05:40. | :05:41. | |
slogans and junk through your letterbox to look forward to. But | :05:42. | :05:45. | |
how are the parties shaping up for the fight? Labour, who have led the | :05:46. | :05:48. | |
opinion polls for most of the Parliament, are now at risk of | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
losing their lead. This week they've floated a raft of policies and | :05:53. | :05:55. | |
positions which some call a lurch to the left, and produced a party | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
political broadcast with a strong class war appeal. Is that a winning | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
formula? We turned to former Labour man and Daily Telegraph journalist | :06:03. | :06:05. | |
Dan Hodges. This is his take of the week. | :06:06. | :06:22. | |
# Insects. # We have crickets, bug salad, and we | :06:23. | :06:32. | |
have Give me five minutes. Three years | :06:33. | :06:38. | |
ago, when Ed Miliband was first selected, the Labour Party convinced | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
itself it could go into the next election with an appetising offer | :06:44. | :06:49. | |
for the electorate. Miliband was a fresh political face, his party was | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
united behind him and the nation was tired of the austerities diet being | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
offered by David Cameron and the Tory coalition. Your crickets. Thank | :06:58. | :07:06. | |
you. But now the election is one year away and the early optimism is | :07:07. | :07:12. | |
fading. Labour has three main problems. The first is the Ed | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
Miliband issue. For years, his supporters have been saying, wait | :07:17. | :07:19. | |
until the voters get to know him. Welcome and they have got to know | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
him and the more they have got to know him, the less they have liked | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
him. Too many, he is strange, otherworldly and out of touch. Worm | :07:28. | :07:34. | |
caviar! And then there is the economy. Not long ago Labour was | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
telling us we were on the edge of a triple dip recession. Now they are | :07:40. | :07:41. | |
trying to tell us we are experiencing the wrong kind of | :07:42. | :07:45. | |
recovery. The reality is, the voters are not swallowing it. And then | :07:46. | :07:56. | |
there is Labour's policy offer. There is very little on the menu. As | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
we have seen this week, what there is has pulled Labour from the centre | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
and lurched Labour to the left. That is not going to whet the appetite of | :08:06. | :08:11. | |
the average swing voter. Some commentators still think Labour is | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
on course for victory, but I just don't see. Their lead is too small | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
and big gap on issues such as leadership and economic competence | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
is too wide. I think Labour is heading for defeat in 2015, a defeat | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
Ed Miliband and his party will find tough to swallow. | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
And from the creepy crawlies at the Archipelago Restaurant in Fitzrovia | :08:34. | :08:36. | |
to our own little creepy crawlies here in the heart of Westminster, | :08:37. | :08:46. | |
Dan joins us now. Welcome. Diane, is Labour heading for defeat in the | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
next election? You are talking about this as if it is a US presidential | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
election. People vote for a political party and all of the | :08:56. | :08:58. | |
pollsters, if you talk to them, say that we are going to win. But the | :08:59. | :09:04. | |
Tories will try to make it a presidential election. They will | :09:05. | :09:10. | |
try. But Dan is talking about this great economic recovery. It might | :09:11. | :09:13. | |
look great in Blackheath, but in the rest of the country people know that | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
the numbers are better, but their lives aren't any better. Have you | :09:17. | :09:22. | |
been touring the rest of the country? I was in Croydon today. Not | :09:23. | :09:28. | |
quite the rest of the country. I believe this will be a recovery | :09:29. | :09:34. | |
without votes, because living standards and confident in the | :09:35. | :09:41. | |
future is no better. So why are the polls narrowing? We have had a | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
consistent but small lead and Ike Spector is to keep that. The lead | :09:46. | :09:51. | |
has been narrowing. Why do you so dislike Ed Miliband? It is not that | :09:52. | :09:58. | |
I dislike him on a personal level. Obviously he is quite clearly | :09:59. | :10:01. | |
pursuing the wrong political strategy. I just don't think he is | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
going to be Prime Minister. Surprisingly, I think he has had an | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
opportunity to be Prime Minister but the strategy he has pursued and the | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
strategy Labour is pursuing, if you thought of a worse strategy for | :10:15. | :10:18. | |
Labour to pursue, you could not come up with much worse. Is the problem | :10:19. | :10:26. | |
strategy, or personal? Strategy. It is not him? His poll ratings are not | :10:27. | :10:32. | |
good. In terms of the polling, the problems are that both in terms of | :10:33. | :10:35. | |
his personal ratings on the leadership issue and on economic | :10:36. | :10:37. | |
competence, Labour is 20 points behind. That is a huge albatross. | :10:38. | :10:43. | |
But the big reason Labour is not going to win next year is because | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
Labour is not trying to win in the classical sense of getting more | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
votes than the opposition. They are pursuing this 35% strategy and | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
hoping they will get 35% and the vagaries of the electoral system | :10:56. | :10:57. | |
will help them stagger over the line. Ed Miliband's personal poll | :10:58. | :11:04. | |
ratings are not great, but neither were Mrs Thatcher's in 1979. She did | :11:05. | :11:10. | |
still win and Mr Miliband needs, because of what Dan calls the | :11:11. | :11:13. | |
vagaries of our electoral system, he only needs 35% of the vote. It will | :11:14. | :11:20. | |
not be like 1979, because Margaret Thatcher got over 40%, a big number. | :11:21. | :11:26. | |
What is happening at the moment, it is a vote less election. All the | :11:27. | :11:32. | |
parties are doing badly apart from UKIP. The polls are showing figures | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
of 30% Conservatives and 30% for Labour. Both of those figures are | :11:39. | :11:41. | |
terribly low in case of -- in the case of each party. In each case, | :11:42. | :11:45. | |
they would normally mean defeat, if it were not for the fact that the | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
other party is doing just as badly. This is not an election about | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
whether Ed Miliband can win. It is precisely the last point that Dan | :11:55. | :11:57. | |
made, whether Labour gets tried over the line in an extraordinary | :11:58. | :12:03. | |
situation. 30% is the sort of number that for the Conservatives produced | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
160 seats in 1997, 2001. Not only not a winning position, but | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
desperately short. What we know is that if Labour and the Conservatives | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
score the same number, whatever the number, Labour wins. You are all | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
forgetting that ordinary people, not those like us, they don't start to | :12:23. | :12:28. | |
focus on general elections until much later on in the cycle. I | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
believe when they come to focus on this general election, the Tories | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
are going to be even more unpopular than in 2010 when they lost, and | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
they will lose again. It is also possible that the opposite will | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
happen, and if the focus goes on Ed Miliband it will go badly. On what | :12:47. | :12:52. | |
basis will the Tories be popular next summer? You must be happy that | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
Ed Miliband seems to be shifting Labour to the left. Chance would be | :12:58. | :13:03. | |
a fine thing. He is talking about taking the Labour finances Ashgrove | :13:04. | :13:11. | |
fractures taking the railway franchises back into some form | :13:12. | :13:18. | |
public ownership. It actually constitutes policies which are | :13:19. | :13:25. | |
actually very popular. As a practising politician, all things | :13:26. | :13:29. | |
being equal, I like popular policies and these are popular policies. And | :13:30. | :13:35. | |
they are popular. But the poll rating is not bearing that out, is | :13:36. | :13:41. | |
it? I think the big problem for Labour is that the parties are | :13:42. | :13:45. | |
currently neck and neck, but that is with UKIP currently polling at 12%. | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
UKIP is not going to get 12% in the general election and the majority of | :13:51. | :13:53. | |
voters that switch back will go to the Tories. The Lib Dems are polling | :13:54. | :13:58. | |
at 8% and they are not going to get that in the general election. They | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
will be up 13 or 14 points, I expect. And that is coming straight | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
off Labour. At the moment they are at level pegging when Labour should | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
be at least ten points ahead. By the time of the election next year, the | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
only way that the polls can go is that the Tories will go up and | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
Labour will go down. Those figures about the Lib Dems are misleading. | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
They will hold seats you might not expect. But overall they are going | :14:25. | :14:33. | |
to lose seats. Isn't Mr Miliband's biggest asset that for the first | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
time in living memory, the right is divided? Mrs Thatcher benefited from | :14:38. | :14:43. | |
the left being divided. The right has been divided for 20 years. | :14:44. | :14:53. | |
Between different political parties. 1997, 2001, 2005, 2010 for that | :14:54. | :15:00. | |
matter, it has been about the Conservatives being terrified of | :15:01. | :15:04. | |
losing votes to the right. Despite intellectually understanding they | :15:05. | :15:07. | |
had to fight on the centre ground, in the end they decided to assuage | :15:08. | :15:14. | |
the Daily Mail and try to shore up their 35%. This is the first | :15:15. | :15:17. | |
election in which the Tories will face a credible party to their | :15:18. | :15:21. | |
right. I don't think that is the case. What was there before? It was | :15:22. | :15:29. | |
UKIP last time. It has become more credible but the Conservatives have | :15:30. | :15:32. | |
faced the same problem of shifting themselves to the right in order to | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
avoid being headed off by a right-wing party and losing votes in | :15:37. | :15:43. | |
the centre. Certainly not after... You are going Lib Dem? Especially | :15:44. | :15:49. | |
after that preposterous disgraceful political broadcast... It was not | :15:50. | :15:55. | |
intended for YOU, Dan. Just as well. It is intended for people that voted | :15:56. | :16:01. | |
Lib Dem because we all love Nick and now they regret it! It would be | :16:02. | :16:07. | |
wrong to pose as Labour's critical friend because you have moved beyond | :16:08. | :16:11. | |
that? I don't think anyone is in any doubt about what I think about Ed | :16:12. | :16:16. | |
Miliband or the Labour Party. Right. Dan thinks that Mr Cameron will be | :16:17. | :16:20. | |
Prime Minister with an overall majority, am I right? Yes. Diane? Ed | :16:21. | :16:26. | |
Miliband will be Prime Minister with a small but sufficient overall | :16:27. | :16:33. | |
majority. An Ed Miliband Prime Ministership is the most likely | :16:34. | :16:35. | |
outcome. That is not the same as saying that is my prediction. I | :16:36. | :16:39. | |
agree with what Dan said about the way things can shift and might | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
shift. What is your prediction? Well, if I were forced to predict | :16:44. | :16:47. | |
now, I would say Ed Miliband would be Prime Minister. But that is not | :16:48. | :16:50. | |
my prediction because I think there is a lot that will happen. OK. You | :16:51. | :16:55. | |
have lost me! I think it is perfectly simple. The viewers will | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
understand that and that is all that matters to me! We will see if the | :17:00. | :17:04. | |
viewers understand. Let me know now. Dan, thank you. | :17:05. | :17:11. | |
Now it's late, Reverend Flowers late, so you're probably wide awake | :17:12. | :17:14. | |
and feeling rather guilty, so prepare to serve your paltry | :17:15. | :17:17. | |
sentence. Because waiting in the wings, comic, writer, campaigner, | :17:18. | :17:20. | |
Ruby Wax is here, to discuss "intellectual confidence". We have | :17:21. | :17:24. | |
just seen a bit of that. With a certain Diane Abbott. And Michael | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
Denzil Xavier Portillo. Thank god we're not discussing intellectual | :17:28. | :17:30. | |
humility or they'd have nothing to say! And remember, if you're too | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
smart or too stupid for all this, we'd rather not hear from you. | :17:36. | :17:37. | |
Unfortunately, the BBC insist we inform you about The Twitter, The | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
Fleecebook and The Interweb. Now, how do you get an MP to run a | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
four-minute mile? Question them about their expenses. Boom boom! But | :17:47. | :17:50. | |
it was 60 years ago this week that Sir Roger Bannister broke the then | :17:51. | :17:54. | |
one-mile record. Always happy to celebrate a great British triumph, | :17:55. | :17:56. | |
we challenged BBC Deputy Political Editor, James Landale, to get his | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
spikes on, run round a track like a mad man, and at the same time give | :18:01. | :18:04. | |
us his in-depth take on the week in Westminster. Will he succeed? I | :18:05. | :18:12. | |
doubt it. Please look away now if you're of a nervous disposition - | :18:13. | :18:15. | |
naked wet legs were involved in the making of this film! | :18:16. | :18:24. | |
Hello and welcome to the highlight of this summer's sporting fixtures - | :18:25. | :18:32. | |
the one-mile This Week Chase. 60 years ago Mr Roger Bannister did it | :18:33. | :18:36. | |
under four minutes. I can tell you, four minutes is a long time in | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
politics! Today's race is sponsored by Pfizer, that's why Mr Landale is | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
determined not to get too stiff! That is why he is doing all those | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
physical jerks. Don't try this at home, children! There's one year to | :18:51. | :18:57. | |
go until the general election race begins, so today all the runners are | :18:58. | :19:02. | |
limbering up for the early heats for a place in the local council and the | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
ambition of every athlete - the chance to go to Europe! And they are | :19:08. | :19:13. | |
off! For years, the Lib Dems have told us every election is a | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
two-horse race. Not anymore. The political track is looking crowded | :19:18. | :19:22. | |
for the euro elections and Nick Clegg's team could come fifth behind | :19:23. | :19:28. | |
the Greens. We are the only party that have the courage to stand up to | :19:29. | :19:39. | |
UKIP. The only party relied on to rein in the Conservatives, the only | :19:40. | :19:44. | |
party to undo the damage done by Labour to our economy. I say - poor | :19:45. | :19:54. | |
show! A bit of jiggery-pokery going on, just the argy-bargy the | :19:55. | :19:59. | |
Institute of Government says is going on in coalition. Coalition, my | :20:00. | :20:08. | |
bottom! The main pushing and shoving this week was over the news that the | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
Yanks want to join the race - that's right, Pfizer, the American drugs | :20:14. | :20:20. | |
firm, wants to get its leg over - sorry, takeover of that plucky | :20:21. | :20:24. | |
British enterprise, AstraZeneca. I and my colleagues across Government | :20:25. | :20:28. | |
engaged early with both companies to ensure the outcome is positive for | :20:29. | :20:33. | |
the UK, precisely to avoid previous Government's failures in this type | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
of situation. The fact is, over the last week, the Government has | :20:39. | :20:42. | |
compromised the Astra board leading the chairman to urge the Prime | :20:43. | :20:44. | |
Minister to adopt a neutral position. Finally, Mr Speaker, the | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
bottom line is this: The assurances the Government has extracted from | :20:50. | :20:52. | |
Pfizer are simply not worth the paper they are written on. That was | :20:53. | :21:00. | |
the club junior starting the relay. Then it was time for the senior boys | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
to pick up the baton, for Ed Miliband it was another chance to | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
bash a beastly foreign company. For David Cameron, a very real test of | :21:10. | :21:13. | |
his claim that Britain is winning the global race. Better go! I agree | :21:14. | :21:19. | |
with what the Business Secretary said yesterday. Let me be clear. The | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
most important intervention we can make is to back British jobs, | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
British science, British R, make is to back British jobs, | :21:27. | :21:29. | |
British medicines and British technology. Is he ruling out or | :21:30. | :21:35. | |
ruling in using the public interest test on this takeover? If he does | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
not take action now, and the bid goes through without a proper | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
assessment, everyone will know he was cheerleading for this bid, not | :21:44. | :21:47. | |
championing British science and British industry. One team that is | :21:48. | :21:51. | |
making the running is the UKIPers, they have chosen a new candidate for | :21:52. | :21:59. | |
the Newark by-election hurdle. As for their leader, Nigel Farage, he's | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
keen to show us that he has lots of black friends, apparently. Let this | :22:05. | :22:09. | |
picture of me on the stage with these wonderful men and women from | :22:10. | :22:14. | |
all their different backgrounds and their united belief in being British | :22:15. | :22:18. | |
and being part of this country and in wanting this country to be free | :22:19. | :22:24. | |
and independent and proud. Let this be UKIP's clause for moment. -- | :22:25. | :22:31. | |
Clause IV moment. Black and ethnic minority voters are going to get | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
more important. A report by a think-tank said they are going to | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
make up a third of the country by 2050 and, at the moment, not many of | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
them are voting for David Cameron, which is a bit of a problem if he | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
wants to run again. Right now Mr David Cameron is well behind the | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
leaders. He is hoping the growing economy will give him a late surge | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
in the final straight, but those Tory legs, they are looking pretty | :22:57. | :23:00. | |
tired. What we have got to have in our country is the politics of the | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
answer rather than the politics of anger. What we have got to do is fix | :23:05. | :23:09. | |
these problems. Fix our welfare system so it rewards the | :23:10. | :23:12. | |
hard-working, fix our immigration system so it benefits the whole of | :23:13. | :23:18. | |
our country, get our taxes down. So, the election finishing line is | :23:19. | :23:21. | |
almost in sight, all the politicians desperate to be first past the post. | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
Except, of course, it is not like that, these are European elections | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
so it is proportional representation and it is decided by somebody... | :23:31. | :23:43. | |
Sadly, he tripped over his shoelaces at the last minute and never made | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
it! AstraZeneca and Pfizer, where are you on this - welcome to | :23:50. | :23:54. | |
Miranda. Well, pharmaceuticals is one of our few indigenous and highly | :23:55. | :24:01. | |
successful industries and so I would be pretty nervous of the Pfizer bid. | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
I'm quite struck by the interventions that have been made, | :24:07. | :24:09. | |
particularly by a former Chief Executive of AstraZeneca, who | :24:10. | :24:15. | |
believes that we should be very suspicious of the bid. That would be | :24:16. | :24:19. | |
my frame of mind. This is a problem for the Prime Minister? It is. | :24:20. | :24:24. | |
Conservatives, particularly, in recent years - the last 20 or 30 | :24:25. | :24:28. | |
years - have been associated with the free market. Sometimes get a bit | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
bamboozled by the idea that the free market is the only thing they should | :24:34. | :24:36. | |
be thinking of. It is one of the things they should be thinking of, | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
but it is not the only thing. The last Labour Government watered-down | :24:40. | :24:43. | |
the public interest test? Was it? I take your word for that. And you | :24:44. | :24:47. | |
should, because it's true. Miranda, do the Lib Dems have a view on this? | :24:48. | :24:51. | |
Vince Cable is the Business Secretary, so they have to. Well, | :24:52. | :24:57. | |
hold on. There can be a Lib Dem view and a Vince the Cable view? That is | :24:58. | :25:05. | |
true. I think it is about striking a balance because it's been very | :25:06. | :25:09. | |
striking, I think, that The Financial Times has said hold on a | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
minute our science base is so important that we should look at | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
this very carefully, it has been very striking, the intervention from | :25:18. | :25:20. | |
the Swedish Finance Minister saying you can't believe the pledges from | :25:21. | :25:23. | |
Pfizer and we have suffered in Sweden. So, you know, it is a moment | :25:24. | :25:29. | |
where you, as Michael says, it can't just be about principles of openness | :25:30. | :25:34. | |
to foreign investment, it has also got to be about if you choose to | :25:35. | :25:44. | |
have industrial strategies on certain industries and if a | :25:45. | :25:48. | |
challenge comes along to undermine your strategy, you do have to think | :25:49. | :25:52. | |
twice about whether you let it go through. You don't have to look in | :25:53. | :25:56. | |
the crystal ball, you can read the record. Pfizer has a history. First | :25:57. | :26:00. | |
of all, everyone believes they want to come here because of the tax | :26:01. | :26:04. | |
arrangements. OK. They have a history of asset-stripping companies | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
they have taken over and selling off the constituent parts. That is what | :26:09. | :26:11. | |
people... Why didn't Ed Miliband want to meet the Chief Executive | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
when the Chief Executive of Pfizer offered to come and see him? | :26:16. | :26:21. | |
Miliband could have said... No... We know you are an asset-stripper and | :26:22. | :26:24. | |
he would have got a lot of kudos. But he turned down the meeting. What | :26:25. | :26:28. | |
was the reason for that? The reality - that is a distraction. He said he | :26:29. | :26:33. | |
was too busy campaigning to meet him. Ed Miliband doesn't know | :26:34. | :26:38. | |
whether to trust him or not because he didn't meet him! It's given the | :26:39. | :26:42. | |
Government certain assurances, Pfizer, it would continue with the | :26:43. | :26:48. | |
R in Cambridge, which is the existing AstraZeneca plant. The | :26:49. | :26:50. | |
European headquarters would be placed here and there are other | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
things. What do you do if they break them? Exactly. You wouldn't be able | :26:56. | :26:59. | |
to hold them to those pledges. I think the Government, you know, has | :27:00. | :27:04. | |
to make a political gut decision. On the one hand, it is also plausible | :27:05. | :27:10. | |
that if AstraZeneca is joined to Pfizer so that people in Britain are | :27:11. | :27:15. | |
working for the largest pharmaceutical conglomerate in the | :27:16. | :27:18. | |
world with some of the best pharmaceutical properties, that | :27:19. | :27:21. | |
could be very advantageous. It is also possible to argue that it would | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
be stripped out of Britain and taken somewhere else. We have some amazing | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
pharmaceutical patents in AstraZeneca and you can see why | :27:32. | :27:35. | |
Pfizer would want to get hold of them. They are falling off the | :27:36. | :27:40. | |
patent cliff, most of the drugs which they have made a lot of money | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
now are going out of patent and will become generic, which is why their | :27:46. | :27:50. | |
pipeline... You talking about AstraZeneca or Pfizer? AstraZeneca. | :27:51. | :27:56. | |
The recent drugs that AstraZeneca have done well with were developed | :27:57. | :28:01. | |
in Maryland. I wonder if AstraZeneca is the big British Champion that | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
British politicians seem to think it is. It employed 50,000 people | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
worldwide. Most of it - a lot of its research is done in Maryland. It has | :28:11. | :28:15. | |
closed research facilities in Britain as well. It is interesting - | :28:16. | :28:20. | |
7,000 jobs on a day when 19,000 jobs are being lost in bhaR clays. -- | :28:21. | :28:28. | |
Barclays. Pfizer's promises remind me of Krafts's promises in relation | :28:29. | :28:34. | |
to Cadbury's. It is not just about the tax come pe division, though. -- | :28:35. | :28:38. | |
competition, though. There is this question of the NHS has a testing | :28:39. | :28:42. | |
ground for pharmaceutical discoveries. Gordon Brown, as Prime | :28:43. | :28:45. | |
Minister, was very hot on this. He was hot on the fact that we have got | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
a good research base. We have the ideal place to test it. The NHS is | :28:50. | :28:53. | |
not the ideal place anymore. It is not being used by most of the big | :28:54. | :28:57. | |
pharmaceuticals, it takes too long and it is too slow, so much of | :28:58. | :29:01. | |
AstraZeneca's testing is done in Europe. It is probably the | :29:02. | :29:05. | |
explanation of why we have had a very successful pharmaceutical | :29:06. | :29:10. | |
industry that they had a tame NHS to fund their research. Should - at the | :29:11. | :29:15. | |
moment, as I understand it, the Government has very little power to | :29:16. | :29:22. | |
stop this in the end. I think at the end, the power lies with Brussels to | :29:23. | :29:27. | |
stop this, or let it go ahead. Should the British Government have | :29:28. | :29:30. | |
the power to stop this? I think Pfizer said that if they - if the | :29:31. | :29:35. | |
British Government indicates it doesn't support this bid, it will | :29:36. | :29:38. | |
withdraw. I think it should indicate it doesn't support the bid. That | :29:39. | :29:42. | |
would stop it? That is what Pfizer are saying. Let me move on to ethnic | :29:43. | :29:47. | |
minority voters. There is a report out this week, it showed that the | :29:48. | :29:52. | |
Tories have a real problem with ethnic minority voters in that they | :29:53. | :29:55. | |
don't get them. Why? It is a huge problem. Partly because the Tories | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
have ceased to articulate some messages that were attractive in the | :30:01. | :30:08. | |
Thatcher days - we were the party of aspiration. And for Asian voters, | :30:09. | :30:12. | |
particularly Indian and Pakistani voters, that seemed to go down | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
extremely well. Margaret Thatcher took enormous care to appear at | :30:17. | :30:22. | |
Asian social events and to socialise with prominent British Asians. | :30:23. | :30:29. | |
I think the second thing is that if you decide as a party that you want | :30:30. | :30:36. | |
to go on saying immigration needs to be reined in, it is quite difficult, | :30:37. | :30:41. | |
in the year of those who are first-generation immigrants, or | :30:42. | :30:45. | |
immigrate -- immigrants themselves, it is difficult to distinguish | :30:46. | :30:49. | |
between a party saying, we don't want many immigrants, and something | :30:50. | :30:55. | |
different, saying we don't like people who are immigrants or | :30:56. | :30:58. | |
descended from immigrants. It sounds the same. So I think what the | :30:59. | :31:02. | |
Conservatives are doing is that in the very short term they are hoping | :31:03. | :31:06. | |
they can shore up their dwindling, ageing traditional vote, by heading | :31:07. | :31:12. | |
off UKIP, by talking about immigration. What they are doing | :31:13. | :31:15. | |
strategically is driving away the voters of the future. So the | :31:16. | :31:19. | |
discussion we just had about what will happen at the next election is, | :31:20. | :31:23. | |
in my view, of secondary importance. It is what will happen | :31:24. | :31:26. | |
to the Conservative Party in the longer term that is of primary | :31:27. | :31:31. | |
importance. The Prime Minister is focused on the near-term, shoring up | :31:32. | :31:34. | |
the vote for the next election, without a thought to the strategic | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
question of how the Tory party will survive. Were you in Crest -- | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
impressed with UKIP's diversity display? The polling shows that I | :31:44. | :31:53. | |
think one third of people think that UKIP is anti-immigrant, in the worst | :31:54. | :31:58. | |
sense. He was trying to send a message saying that is a media myth | :31:59. | :32:02. | |
and here are the pictures to prove it. It will have no impact, because | :32:03. | :32:08. | |
the thing about anti-immigrant rhetoric, the Republicans have this | :32:09. | :32:13. | |
problem. They went on and on about illegal immigrants, but then legal | :32:14. | :32:16. | |
immigrants fled from the Republicans. It is what Michael was | :32:17. | :32:20. | |
saying, you hear this anti-immigrant rhetoric, and even though you are | :32:21. | :32:25. | |
here legally, you believe that party doesn't like you. Between us we have | :32:26. | :32:33. | |
three immigrant parents. That's right. Is Nick Clegg right to oppose | :32:34. | :32:40. | |
tougher sentences for knife crime? I think he probably is but I'm not | :32:41. | :32:43. | |
sure whether the motives are entirely pure. I know, what an awful | :32:44. | :32:50. | |
slur! But I think he is right because I don't think you should | :32:51. | :32:53. | |
make sentencing policy on the basis of what makes good headlines. You | :32:54. | :32:58. | |
should think about the evidence. There are many young people who | :32:59. | :33:02. | |
carry knives, unfortunately, and that is the reality. If you say the | :33:03. | :33:08. | |
second time a young person for whatever reason feels they need to | :33:09. | :33:11. | |
carry a knife, if you put them into a criminal class, lock them up where | :33:12. | :33:15. | |
they will probably become someone who is more likely to have a career | :33:16. | :33:20. | |
of crime ahead of them than not, it is a bad idea. Are you dismayed that | :33:21. | :33:25. | |
Mr Miliband has joined the government in this policy and is | :33:26. | :33:27. | |
Nick Clegg is the one taking the liberal line against it? And can | :33:28. | :33:32. | |
boast about that in the pages of the Guardian? I am dismayed. What is the | :33:33. | :33:38. | |
point of taking kids who happen to be carrying knives, putting them in | :33:39. | :33:41. | |
prison where they can become highly skilled career criminals? It is a | :33:42. | :33:47. | |
trend of governments try to stop the courts using their discretion, but | :33:48. | :33:51. | |
that is what courts are there for. Miranda, thank you very much. | :33:52. | :33:54. | |
Now, political parties have always contained deep thinkers, big-brained | :33:55. | :33:57. | |
people who wrestle with the big philosophical questions of the day | :33:58. | :33:59. | |
providing intellectual foundations for a party's programme for | :34:00. | :34:02. | |
government. One only has to think of Keith Joseph in the Conservative | :34:03. | :34:05. | |
Party, Gordon Brown in the Labour Party, Sarah Teather in the Liberal | :34:06. | :34:08. | |
Democrats. Great minds that didn't think alike, to which we can now | :34:09. | :34:14. | |
apparently add Ed Miliband. And that's why we've decided to stroke | :34:15. | :34:17. | |
our chin and put intellectual confidence in this week's spotlight. | :34:18. | :34:29. | |
Ed Miliband chose a strange tactic in shedding his nerdy reputation | :34:30. | :34:35. | |
this week, bragging about how big his brain is. He claimed he had more | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
intellectual self-confidence than David Cameron, something the Prime | :34:41. | :34:46. | |
Minister took exception to. Let me make this point because I worry it | :34:47. | :34:51. | |
may be lost in this debate. And I know, of course, he thinks he is | :34:52. | :34:54. | |
extremely clever, and we all know that, but he may have missed this | :34:55. | :35:00. | |
point. UKIP also seized on the potency of mocking his bold claim. | :35:01. | :35:04. | |
They showed that they are anti-IQ, two, with their by-election | :35:05. | :35:10. | |
candidate appealing to the common-sense voter, by dismissing | :35:11. | :35:12. | |
the Labour leader as to intellectual. One exam board wants | :35:13. | :35:17. | |
to make the intellectual more accessible by proposing a more | :35:18. | :35:23. | |
accessible English A-level, studying Russell Brand's views on drugs, and | :35:24. | :35:29. | |
tweets. The Department for Education called the idea rubbish, but is it | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
intellectual snobbery? And while we are arguing over how best to teach, | :35:35. | :35:38. | |
in Nigeria, Boko Haram do not want Western teaching at all. The | :35:39. | :35:44. | |
Islamist terror group has abducted almost 300 schoolgirls, kidnapped | :35:45. | :35:49. | |
just for being educated. They are extremists and do not really | :35:50. | :35:54. | |
understand Islam. Is lan says it is your duty to get an education. So | :35:55. | :35:59. | |
how do you instil intellectual confidence, and why is showing off | :36:00. | :36:06. | |
your big brain such a big deal? We are joined by Ruby wax. Welcome. | :36:07. | :36:12. | |
What is intellectual confidence? That is what you use when you want | :36:13. | :36:19. | |
to lose an election. It is not streetsmart? It certainly isn't. If | :36:20. | :36:24. | |
you are unconscious enough to use something that arrogant, I would say | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
it flips you to the downside of intelligent. Dare I say stupid? We | :36:29. | :36:33. | |
should learn from Sarah Pailin. He should have said he is a hockey mum. | :36:34. | :36:40. | |
That is the new Vogue, to say, I am the people. Clearly, he didn't learn | :36:41. | :36:47. | |
from that woman. You are looking at me disapprovingly. I am depressed by | :36:48. | :36:50. | |
what you say, although I think it might be true. Does British society | :36:51. | :36:58. | |
value intellectual abilities? When I first got to this country, I'm not | :36:59. | :37:05. | |
sure. People would say, I have been to Eton. It was like turkeys finding | :37:06. | :37:11. | |
their own. It was a club you could not crash, and it was smug. To an | :37:12. | :37:18. | |
American, may the best guy who ripped you off win. In this country, | :37:19. | :37:22. | |
it was like a club and I wanted to crash it, but I never felt I could. | :37:23. | :37:27. | |
And in these days, going to Eton is a sign that your mum and dad had a | :37:28. | :37:32. | |
tonne of money. In those days, it was still something that was | :37:33. | :37:36. | |
considered, for an American, a superior intellect. Now, I know they | :37:37. | :37:41. | |
all liked to wear nappies, but back then I thought it measured a higher | :37:42. | :37:48. | |
IQ. It is possible that the emerging markets, India, China, they seem to | :37:49. | :37:54. | |
put more value on education and intellect for their kids. To call it | :37:55. | :37:59. | |
intellect is offensive. Does that mean you had a good IQ, or you did | :38:00. | :38:03. | |
well on a test? Intellect is not that. That is just memorising. If | :38:04. | :38:09. | |
you are creative... If you don't have curiosity, you are a moron. Did | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
you just memorise the book and regurgitate it? Let's make it wider, | :38:14. | :38:19. | |
what a real intellectual is. I am a blank slate, but I will ask the | :38:20. | :38:23. | |
right questions and give the appearance of being intelligent. Was | :38:24. | :38:28. | |
it wise of him to claim to be more intellectually confident than the | :38:29. | :38:34. | |
Prime Minister? His father was a genuine intellectual, however you | :38:35. | :38:37. | |
define it. But I think he forgot that historically the British are | :38:38. | :38:41. | |
suspicious of intellectuals. Clever politicians, even if they are | :38:42. | :38:48. | |
intellectual... I don't want him reading history books on holiday. I | :38:49. | :38:53. | |
want him to meet the people. Clever politicians have always hidden that | :38:54. | :39:00. | |
they are intellectuals. Are you intellectually confident? I am | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
curious. I lack some intellectual confidence and I admire those who | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
have it. That is a very British thing to say. That humble thing, I | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
am not buying it, because he looks intellectually confident. The United | :39:14. | :39:23. | |
States had as a President William Jefferson Clinton, with an | :39:24. | :39:26. | |
extraordinary IQ. I think it was great that such a gifted man was in | :39:27. | :39:34. | |
the presidency. But he hid it. Actually, I think the range of | :39:35. | :39:38. | |
issues on which he was absolutely confident was an advantage to the | :39:39. | :39:42. | |
presidency. I am proud that in the Conservative government today I | :39:43. | :39:45. | |
would say that people like Oliver N and David Willetts are some of the | :39:46. | :39:49. | |
most intellectual people we have had in government. I think they add | :39:50. | :39:55. | |
enormously to the government. Nobody is saying you are an idiot, but you | :39:56. | :40:01. | |
just don't say, I am one of the great... You have invalidated who | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
you are. I am not saying Ed Miliband should have said that but the knee | :40:07. | :40:09. | |
jerk reaction that we despise intellectuals is wrong. If we are | :40:10. | :40:14. | |
lucky enough to get some people who are very, very bright to go into | :40:15. | :40:18. | |
politics, I think we should be really pleased at that. But our | :40:19. | :40:23. | |
leaders do try to hide their intellect. It is very British. These | :40:24. | :40:30. | |
are all clever men. When you get very successful British people, they | :40:31. | :40:35. | |
always say, I was just walking down the street and I became chairman of | :40:36. | :40:38. | |
this multinational company. Of course, it wasn't like that but they | :40:39. | :40:43. | |
love to be self-deprecating. But now, when they choose leaders, the | :40:44. | :40:47. | |
guys who come at the top of the class are not necessarily hired. I | :40:48. | :40:53. | |
associate high intellect with asp urges, because they have pinpoint | :40:54. | :40:58. | |
vision. Let's talk about Richard Branson, someone who's good with | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
people. That is who is being hired. Let's be more personable. Boris, I | :41:04. | :41:11. | |
am not his greatest supporter, but he does things nobody else can do. | :41:12. | :41:14. | |
For instance, he presents programmes on television about Roman and | :41:15. | :41:19. | |
classical history which are clearly intellectual, and it does him no | :41:20. | :41:25. | |
damage whatsoever. I just want to note that and admire it. But he | :41:26. | :41:31. | |
carries it off by pretending to be a buffoon. Nobody is questioning that | :41:32. | :41:34. | |
you have to be smart to get this job. It's no big deal. I don't know | :41:35. | :41:39. | |
what I'm doing on this show, really. I will tell you, | :41:40. | :41:44. | |
intellectual confidence is that I wrote a book called saving the | :41:45. | :41:52. | |
world, and I'm here to plug it. -- seine New World. Do intellects make | :41:53. | :42:03. | |
good leaders? I just said it, that I don't think, they are smart, but if | :42:04. | :42:10. | |
they say it, it is offensive to the common man. Of course you have to be | :42:11. | :42:15. | |
smart. Nobody is questioning that. I guess what we are talking about is | :42:16. | :42:18. | |
whether you should say it. No, you should not. President Kennedy hosted | :42:19. | :42:23. | |
a dinner for 14 Nobel Prize winners and began his speech by saying, | :42:24. | :42:28. | |
there has never been a great collection of brain power under this | :42:29. | :42:31. | |
roof since Thomas Jefferson dined alone. A very good joke, one of the | :42:32. | :42:40. | |
best. Good luck with the book. You did not mention that I graduated | :42:41. | :42:46. | |
from Oxford. In September. So I can understand those words. You are | :42:47. | :42:53. | |
intellectually confident. I am now. You are not meant to say it. In | :42:54. | :42:58. | |
August I was a moron but now I wear a square hat. I am confident. | :42:59. | :43:02. | |
That's your lot for tonight folks, but not for us. We're giving Lou | :43:03. | :43:06. | |
Lou's a miss tonight and heading over to Kebabylon on the Holloway | :43:07. | :43:09. | |
Road for an extra-large lamb shawarma. We've no idea whether the | :43:10. | :43:12. | |
meat's halal or kosher - we're just praying it's actually meat. But with | :43:13. | :43:15. | |
Nick Clegg launching his party's local election campaign this week, | :43:16. | :43:18. | |
at the Ministry of Sound nightclub in London - I kid you not, This Week | :43:19. | :43:23. | |
viewers - we leave you tonight with the Lib Dem leader's rousing speech | :43:24. | :43:26. | |
to the party-hard faithful, and his call to arms in the air. | :43:27. | :43:30. | |
Nighty-night. Don't let Ravey Clegg bite. | :43:31. | :43:39. | |
We are the only party in this election that has the courage to | :43:40. | :43:47. | |
stand up to UKIP. The only party relied upon to reign in the | :43:48. | :43:54. | |
Conservatives. The only party to undo the damage done by Labour to | :43:55. | :44:03. | |
our economy. The only party that will deliver a stronger economy and | :44:04. | :44:07. | |
a fairer society. Thank you very much. | :44:08. | :44:11. | |
# Can you feel it. # with three brand-new comedies | :44:12. | :44:20. | |
to brighten up your spring. You cannot present the weather | :44:21. | :44:24. | |
dripping with sex appeal. No sex appeal, the way I did it - | :44:25. | :44:31. | |
that's the way to do it. All a good mountain man needs | :44:32. | :44:36. | |
is a stout set of legs, a bar of tablet and a bobble hat. | :44:37. | :44:39. | |
There you go. Why can't the rest of us have a go? | :44:40. | :44:42. | |
There's a good reason. | :44:43. | :44:46. |