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Power up. To Mike, as the all woman Ghostbusters film hits the big | :00:13. | :00:20. | |
screen, no one should have two encounter our kind of supernatural | :00:21. | :00:29. | |
politics. I think you can handle it. Haven't you heard, the ladies of the | :00:30. | :00:37. | |
top dogs. Hang on, he's not a woman. No, but I am a feminist. Anyhow, | :00:38. | :00:43. | |
what about Corbyn? They keep trying to kill him off and he seems | :00:44. | :00:47. | |
immortal. Michael Rosen is pleased he is clinging to power. Labour | :00:48. | :00:53. | |
right-wingers can fire anything they like a Jeremy Corbyn but he's not | :00:54. | :00:59. | |
going anywhere and nor should he. We don't want mass hysteria. The Labour | :01:00. | :01:07. | |
Party is so match oh. If only we had a female Prime Minister. Oh, yes, I | :01:08. | :01:16. | |
remember the good old days. Keep up, Theresa is in charge. She's going to | :01:17. | :01:20. | |
round up the right wing ghosts and put them somewhere safe, like the | :01:21. | :01:25. | |
Cabinet! Women really are taking over the world. Do you feel | :01:26. | :01:35. | |
emasculated? No, I feel liberated. Let's go. Cerys Matthews was | :01:36. | :01:43. | |
therefore girl power and she thinks gender busting has been a long time | :01:44. | :01:51. | |
coming. I ain't afraid of no ghost. I'm absolutely petrified of | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
appearing on this programme. Who are you going to call? This Week. Hey, | :01:57. | :02:06. | |
girls, what do you think of my kitten heels? Nice! | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
And our new Prime Minister has asked me to make it immediately | :02:11. | :02:15. | |
clear that when she wrote "F Off" next to Boris Johnson's name, | :02:16. | :02:18. | |
she did not mean he should be put in charge of the Foreign Office, | :02:19. | :02:21. | |
And when she put "P Off" next to David Davis' name she did not | :02:22. | :02:27. | |
mean he should be put in charge of our negotiations to leave the EU. | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
Mrs May has also asked me to point out, by way of mitigation, | :02:33. | :02:35. | |
that she's new to the job and has not quite yet got the hang of it. | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
But she promises to do better come the next reshuffle which, | :02:41. | :02:42. | |
given some of the people she's appointed this time round, | :02:43. | :02:45. | |
is likely to be sooner rather than later. | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
However, she has clocked that the 80% of economists who confidently | :02:49. | :02:51. | |
predicted last night that the Bank of England would cut interest rates | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
this morning, which of course it didn't, | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
are the same 80% of economists who confidently predicted that | :03:02. | :03:03. | |
Brexit would be economic harikari for Britain. | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
So she's decided to appoint Larry the Downing Street Cat | :03:08. | :03:10. | |
Speaking of the feline frisky, I'm joined on the sofa tonight | :03:11. | :03:19. | |
by two political risk-takers who would like to kiss | :03:20. | :03:22. | |
Think of them as the Steve and the Crabb of late | :03:23. | :03:26. | |
I speak, of course, of #manontheleft, Alan | :03:27. | :03:29. | |
'AJ' Johnson, and #sadmanonatrain, Michael 'choo choo' Portillo. | :03:30. | :03:38. | |
Michael, your moment of the week? Well, Peter Lilley, when David | :03:39. | :03:46. | |
Cameron last appeared in the House of Commons as Prime Minister, said | :03:47. | :03:50. | |
that he had given the finest performances at the dispatch box | :03:51. | :03:53. | |
that he had ever seen a Prime Minister give. And this was a very | :03:54. | :03:57. | |
significant comment because that embraced Gordon Brown, Tony Blair | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
and Margaret Thatcher. Peter Lilley was an immense admirer of Margaret | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
Thatcher. It did pull me up a bit to remember how easily David Cameron | :04:09. | :04:11. | |
sat in the role of Prime Minister. He made an immense contribution to | :04:12. | :04:15. | |
reform and modernisation of the Conservative Party. It heightens the | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
sense of tragedy that because of the fatal misjudgement of calling a | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
referendum, his premiership was cut short. 14 years ago, as a junior | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
minister, housing by two to do the weekend interview with a journalist | :04:29. | :04:31. | |
called Rachel Silverstone. It was for the Daily Telegraph, and the | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
press office at the Department for Education advised me not to do it. | :04:37. | :04:39. | |
They said Rachel Sylvester always does a good profile but always gets | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
a front-page story out of it. I did it, and she did. It was not a huge | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
front-page story. She is a good journalist and I have done several | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
since. She probably changed the course of history. I think it Andrea | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
Leadsom had gone out there, given the things that have happened with | :04:58. | :05:00. | |
outsiders getting elected, she could well have won the ballot. It was | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
that single interview with Rachel Sylvester which ended her leadership | :05:05. | :05:10. | |
bid, and I think I certainly would not complain about Rachel, a good | :05:11. | :05:13. | |
journalist, but she changed the course of history last weekend. It | :05:14. | :05:18. | |
was a significant interview. As we were preparing to come on-air, | :05:19. | :05:24. | |
news started to reach us of a major terrorist attack in Nice in the | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
South of France. Nice is one of the major regional centres in France | :05:30. | :05:31. | |
with a massive promenade that goes on for miles along the seafront, and | :05:32. | :05:39. | |
it seems that a truck piled into the people who were on the promenade. | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
Today is Bastille Day in France, and it means places like the promenade, | :05:45. | :05:50. | |
on the front of Nice, are packed with people and families and | :05:51. | :05:56. | |
children and so on. So it seems this was clearly planned, they knew what | :05:57. | :05:59. | |
they were doing. The report says that the truck piled in and then | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
stopped. This bit is unconfirmed, that the driver got out and started | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
shooting at people around. There have been some terrible pictures | :06:10. | :06:12. | |
coming in, more than we are able to show you at the moment. You can see | :06:13. | :06:18. | |
the hotel in the distance, right at the heart of Nice on the promenade. | :06:19. | :06:27. | |
Earlier, 20 minutes ago, reports suggested the death toll could be as | :06:28. | :06:32. | |
high as 30. But in the past couple of minutes, French media, the French | :06:33. | :06:40. | |
prefect in that part of France, a significant figure in the French | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
administration, is now talking that perhaps as many as 60 have been | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
killed, which makes it a major terrorist incident indeed. And we | :06:50. | :06:54. | |
will try to keep across this. We have managed to track down Isabel | :06:55. | :06:58. | |
Hardman of the Spectator and also contributor to this programme. She | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
is in Nice. I'm delighted to say that she is safe. She has been | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
monitoring the French media for us. What have you been learning from the | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
French media? Well, the French media have reported that at least 73 | :07:14. | :07:23. | |
people are dead as a result of this attack which took place on the | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
promenade, which is actually where I was five minutes before it happened, | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
watching the fireworks for Bastille Day. It was packed because it is a | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
national holiday in France. There were lots of families watching | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
fireworks, having dinner, drinking, having a lovely time. Suddenly there | :07:41. | :07:46. | |
were screams and people started running. I kept spotting people -- | :07:47. | :07:54. | |
stopping people and they said they did not know what was happening. I | :07:55. | :08:03. | |
bumped into a family with a young child who took shelter, because | :08:04. | :08:06. | |
police told us to stay indoors while they worked out what happened. We | :08:07. | :08:09. | |
are now just watching the news, trying to work out what on earth has | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
happened. We will leave it there. Thank you for joining us. Stay safe. | :08:14. | :08:20. | |
We understand President Hollande, who was close to Lees today, on the | :08:21. | :08:24. | |
way back to Paris when the news broke, has now moved to the | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
situation room in the Interior Ministry, to monitor what is going | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
on. We can see helicopters coming in on the promenade. It is such a flat | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
place that it would be easy for the truck to mount the pavement. That is | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
where the helicopters are landing, opposite the famous hotel. It could, | :08:42. | :08:49. | |
therefore, do all the more damage. Isabel Hardman was saying that the | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
death toll has now reached 73, with many more people injured. Clearly, | :08:55. | :09:04. | |
another major French terrorist incident, following on Charlie Hebdo | :09:05. | :09:07. | |
and the attacks in Paris in November. We will bring you more | :09:08. | :09:14. | |
news on this developing situation as it takes place. A sad night for | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
France and for all of us. No one has yet claimed responsibility but of | :09:21. | :09:23. | |
course, attention always turns to Islamic State and Al-Qaeda. | :09:24. | :09:27. | |
Now, bricks thrown through office windows, accusations of plots, | :09:28. | :09:29. | |
coups and treacherous behaviour, hard-nosed members reduced to tears, | :09:30. | :09:31. | |
It's the This Week summer recess party. | :09:32. | :09:38. | |
Or Labour is having a leadership contest. | :09:39. | :09:41. | |
Jezza told Call-Me-Dave this week that the party's latest spasm | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
of democracy was "an exciting and splendid thing, and I'm enjoying | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
That's certainly one way of looking at it. | :09:49. | :09:53. | |
But Jezza has no intention of going anywhere, despite the almost total | :09:54. | :09:56. | |
breakdown in relations between himself and the vast | :09:57. | :09:59. | |
So should he go before the party destroys itself? | :10:00. | :10:04. | |
Poet and author Michael Rosen doesn't think so. | :10:05. | :10:06. | |
Climbing to the top of any political party is a slippery affair. | :10:07. | :10:21. | |
And the ineffective plotting of the Blairite warlords of Labour | :10:22. | :10:24. | |
Corbyn's opponents have tried to put every obstacle they can in his way. | :10:25. | :10:36. | |
They said he wouldn't win the leadership, but he did. | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
They said he wouldn't win the Oldham by-election, | :10:43. | :10:44. | |
They said he wouldn't get through the NEC to get | :10:45. | :10:48. | |
Corbyn, with his honest and principled politics, | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
isn't just clinging to power, he is secure at the top. | :10:54. | :11:00. | |
# To keep me from getting to you... # | :11:01. | :11:14. | |
To keep those legitimate members who paid ?3 to support Corbyn | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
from voting in this leadership race, well, it was a move that was decided | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
500,000 people supported Jeremy's ascent and they are | :11:23. | :11:35. | |
172 MPs who voted no confidence in him should remember that. | :11:36. | :11:43. | |
Now, I'm not a Labour member, but a party uniting around a man | :11:44. | :11:46. | |
who's fighting the upcoming cuts and sell-offs and the renewal | :11:47. | :11:49. | |
The whole shambling coup is a mistake. | :11:50. | :11:58. | |
Jeremy is the one fighting in defence of the needy and, | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
as for that speech by PM May, she's not going to do it. | :12:02. | :12:04. | |
Labour should be marking out a route to government, not blocking | :12:05. | :12:10. | |
Jeremy Corbyn's way, should unite around the leader. | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
That's the way to get votes from the Tories and Ukip. | :12:16. | :12:23. | |
In-built into its history is a coming together and separating. | :12:24. | :12:27. | |
If Corbyn stays, the right may head off into the sunset, | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
but they lost my vote and many others over the Iraq war. | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
Keep him at the top of the Labour Party | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
And from scaling the heights of The Arch Climbing Wall | :12:43. | :12:51. | |
in Bermondsey, to coming back down to earth with a bump on This Week, | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
Welcome to the programme. Good evening. What makes you think Mr | :12:55. | :13:08. | |
Corbyn could win a general election? He would need a 12% swing in England | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
from the last election, which would require millions of Tories to vote | :13:13. | :13:17. | |
for him. How is that going to happen? There are also millions who | :13:18. | :13:23. | |
don't vote, aren't there? 25%, sometimes more like 30% who don't | :13:24. | :13:28. | |
vote. We can't say necessarily who at the head of the Labour Party | :13:29. | :13:31. | |
would necessarily win those millions. We know that during the | :13:32. | :13:37. | |
Blair years, the Labour Party lost nearly 6 million votes from 1997 to | :13:38. | :13:42. | |
the 2010 election. So to point the finger at Corbyn and say he | :13:43. | :13:48. | |
couldn't, well, who else could? I think it's a mountain to climb for | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
whoever is leader, but I would suggest it is a particularly high | :13:53. | :13:54. | |
mountain when the leader of the Labour Party, his personal ratings | :13:55. | :14:04. | |
are a stonking -41%. The SNP has shut you out of Scotland, Ukip | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
threatens you in the north of England, Wales is nothing like as | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
secure as it was, Mrs May is parking her tanks on the centre ground. I | :14:13. | :14:17. | |
just don't see where the 12% swing could come from. Be careful of | :14:18. | :14:23. | |
saying "Me". I sometimes vote Labour, sometimes not. We know that | :14:24. | :14:29. | |
Jeremy is fighting on certain different fronts at the moment. The | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
point is, he is campaigning, he is a campaigning leader, not one who sits | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
in Westminster. There was a poll today that put a different picture. | :14:40. | :14:43. | |
If you just go on popularity of leaders, it does not really sure | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
what is going on. But if you want to win, you need a reasonably popular, | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
respected leader. You talk about campaigning, which is interesting. | :14:53. | :14:58. | |
Is it more important to you that he can win elections, or more important | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
that he stays as he -- as a true socialist? Well, it is step-by-step. | :15:04. | :15:09. | |
At the moment, he has to secure the leadership, which is proving the | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
most difficult job. I am keen that he will fight austerity. We have a | :15:14. | :15:20. | |
huge upcoming caps and sell-offs that will happen, and the issue of | :15:21. | :15:24. | |
Trident. For me, it is important that those particular points are put | :15:25. | :15:31. | |
over well. But he does have to fight, you often sneer at it, but he | :15:32. | :15:37. | |
has to fight a media that is almost universally hostile, so he has to go | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
out in order to find people to support him because he is not going | :15:42. | :15:42. | |
to get it through the mass media. The thing that Michael said is that | :15:43. | :15:53. | |
we ought to be plotting a route to government. Instead of plotting | :15:54. | :15:59. | |
against him. Michael isn't a Labour member, but the whole point is that | :16:00. | :16:06. | |
Jeremy Kyle is get 20% of 230 MPs. -- Jeremy Kyle get. -- Jeremy can't | :16:07. | :16:16. | |
get. These are people who have dedicated their lives to working on | :16:17. | :16:24. | |
social services and tackling politics. We have no confidence in | :16:25. | :16:29. | |
Jeremy as a leader and, if you cannot get the confidence of the | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
Parliamentary party, I don't know how many votes Mrs Thatcher had when | :16:34. | :16:37. | |
she resigned because she didn't get enough votes... She still won it. | :16:38. | :16:46. | |
You need that confidence. It is different time phases. The | :16:47. | :16:50. | |
constituency that selected and elected Jeremy is different from the | :16:51. | :16:54. | |
time phases that produced the MPs. Either way, that is the case. It is | :16:55. | :16:59. | |
out of kilter, isn't it? You got two different... We are notorious for | :17:00. | :17:06. | |
just walking into elections with unpopular leaders. The Tories are | :17:07. | :17:12. | |
set to be pretty ruthless about their leaders. I'm afraid this is | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
our Iain Duncan Smith moment. If we don't tackle this now, if we let | :17:17. | :17:23. | |
this drift on, and there isn't a concerted plot, it seems to be | :17:24. | :17:27. | |
internal combustion after Europe. It was a big test for Jeremy on Europe. | :17:28. | :17:33. | |
He failed it, leadership... Be no more failed and Cameron did. As a | :17:34. | :17:39. | |
test of leadership of the party, it was more important than a general | :17:40. | :17:43. | |
election for many people in the party, and that may be what set it | :17:44. | :17:48. | |
off. The fact is, if the membership elected him again knowing that the | :17:49. | :17:52. | |
Parliamentary Labour Party have no confidence in him, that it can't | :17:53. | :17:58. | |
even scramble together 46 out of 230 MPs to nominate him, I'm afraid the | :17:59. | :18:03. | |
membership are going to continue this problem. You said something | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
interesting, which is that the party is out of kilter. The Parliamentary | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
party doesn't like the grassroots and the grassroots don't like the | :18:14. | :18:18. | |
Parliamentary party. You can say that objectively whether you support | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
one or the other. Doesn't that mean at some stage, whether Mr Corbyn | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
wins or not, if he wins, surely there is a danger the Parliamentary | :18:28. | :18:30. | |
party will go off and form another party and, if he loses, the | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
grassroots will go off and form another party. Either way, there is | :18:35. | :18:41. | |
a schism. You could say it is a crisis in social democracy and a | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
crisis in how you define a party. Jeremy Corbyn isn't a social | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
democrat. I would say he's a Parliamentary socialist. He spent | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
all of his life being an MP... He has also been attacking democracies | :18:57. | :18:59. | |
like Germany and Sweden. He wanted a much more hard left approach to | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
things. Isn't it true that a lot of people who have joined the Labour | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
Party last year were not really Labour at all? You look at the | :19:09. | :19:13. | |
banners at the demonstration is, it is the Socialist Workers Party, | :19:14. | :19:18. | |
communist party... The Socialist Workers Party as far as I know have | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
not joined the Labour Party. And lots of individuals... I don't know | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
anything. There are a lot of young people. The idea there are 300,000 | :19:28. | :19:35. | |
Trotskyists. As far as I know, there are about 520. A lot of people but a | :19:36. | :19:41. | |
lot of store in Jeremy. He represents something to them. Maybe | :19:42. | :19:47. | |
it is this purity, he hasn't had to make decisions. He is a protester, | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
not a persuader. If you have a status quo that isn't | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
satisfactory... If he was going to knock seven bells out of the Tories, | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
if he was going to make these speeches at the dispatch box... He | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
has none of these capabilities as a leader, that's the sad truth. People | :20:06. | :20:10. | |
were saying David Cameron was a leader but at the end of the day he | :20:11. | :20:17. | |
failed. Let me bring Michael in. We need an election. It was true that | :20:18. | :20:24. | |
after 1997, when the Tories were in a mess, what really mattered in | :20:25. | :20:28. | |
British politics was what happened in the ruling party, new Labour. Are | :20:29. | :20:32. | |
we back in that situation where what really matters at the moment is what | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
happens in the ruling party, which is the Tories? It does for the time | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
being but we don't know what lies ahead. Who leads the Labour Party | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
and what their policies are matters very much. It is a Parliamentary | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
democracy and the government and opposition are both made within | :20:50. | :20:53. | |
Parliament, and both parties have arrived at a situation where they | :20:54. | :20:56. | |
are capable of electing leaders who don't command the confidence of | :20:57. | :21:02. | |
Labour's -- members of Parliament, because Andrea Leadsom would not | :21:03. | :21:05. | |
have had much more confident among the Tories and Morgan does among | :21:06. | :21:12. | |
Labour. The elections are not fit for purpose. -- Corbyn does among | :21:13. | :21:21. | |
Labour. With Boris, it is somebody who has said thing about | :21:22. | :21:26. | |
foreigners... It's more important that Labour goes into the 2020 | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
election with Mr Corbyn intact and it is that it wins the 2020 | :21:32. | :21:37. | |
election? Should he stay even if it is claggy is going to lose? That | :21:38. | :21:44. | |
isn't either or for me. -- even if it is clear he is going to lose. | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
Yes, I would want Labour to win with Jeremy Corbyn's politics. They are | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
indivisible in my mind, but clearly not in Alan's. We shall see. It will | :21:55. | :22:00. | |
be a long, hot summer for the Labour Party. May be for the Tories, too. | :22:01. | :22:08. | |
Now lots of things scare me - spiders, clowns, some of the strange | :22:09. | :22:11. | |
sartorial choices you see on this programme. | :22:12. | :22:13. | |
But one thing that doesn't scare me is having | :22:14. | :22:15. | |
And with the all-women Ghostbusters film out this week, | :22:16. | :22:22. | |
we asked our very own Miranda Green to investigate some spooky goings-on | :22:23. | :22:25. | |
down at Waterloo Station, for her round-up of the week. | :22:26. | :22:44. | |
There's been something strange in the political neighbourhood | :22:45. | :22:45. | |
Quite frankly, it's been hard to know. | :22:46. | :22:54. | |
After 30 years, the Ghostbusters are back, and this time the ladies | :22:55. | :23:08. | |
It's nearly that long since we had our last | :23:09. | :23:15. | |
female Prime Minister, but we've got the latest a bit | :23:16. | :23:17. | |
I have, however, concluded that the interests of our country | :23:18. | :23:23. | |
are best served by the immediate appointment of a strong and well | :23:24. | :23:26. | |
I'm therefore withdrawing from the leadership election. | :23:27. | :23:35. | |
When Andrea Leadsom pulled out of the leadership race, | :23:36. | :23:37. | |
her staunch Brexiteer supporters were dismayed | :23:38. | :23:38. | |
More of a self sliming, perhaps, after she suggested that | :23:39. | :23:44. | |
being a mother gave her the edge over her rival, Theresa May. | :23:45. | :23:50. | |
Brexit means Brexit, and we are going to make | :23:51. | :23:52. | |
David Cameron had to get the removal van in a bit early but he didn't | :23:53. | :24:01. | |
There's a lot of pelting around in this business. | :24:02. | :24:27. | |
When the press pack got the call about the Leadsom bombshell, | :24:28. | :24:29. | |
they were supposed to be paying attention to the Labour Party, | :24:30. | :24:32. | |
who really want to get in on this all-women act. | :24:33. | :24:38. | |
We are at a crossroads and I am ready to lead. | :24:39. | :24:53. | |
Unfortunately, trainee ghostbuster Angela | :24:54. | :24:59. | |
and the Labour moderates are not having much luck in eliminating | :25:00. | :25:02. | |
A leadership challenge is looking dangerous and may | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
They tried to keep Corbyn off the ballot, but the darling | :25:07. | :25:14. | |
of Momentum isn't quite ready to go into the light. | :25:15. | :25:18. | |
I'm delighted to say the Labour Party National Executive | :25:19. | :25:21. | |
has decided that an incumbent is automatically on the ballot | :25:22. | :25:24. | |
Still haunted by the experience of the SDP. | :25:25. | :25:39. | |
If the left and the moderates do go their separate ways, | :25:40. | :25:42. | |
It's in danger of splitting the Labour Party. | :25:43. | :25:45. | |
I won't let it happen on my watch, and that is why I'm standing | :25:46. | :25:50. | |
for the Labour leadership in order to unite our party and give people | :25:51. | :25:53. | |
hope that there is a credible Labour alternative ready to fight for them. | :25:54. | :26:05. | |
Honestly, there have been horrors everywhere this week. | :26:06. | :26:08. | |
In normal times, civil war inside the opposition would dominate | :26:09. | :26:10. | |
Westminster, but the high drama of David Cameron handing power | :26:11. | :26:13. | |
to give Mrs May left Labour's demons on the cutting room floor. | :26:14. | :26:19. | |
I'd also like him to pass on my thanks to his mum | :26:20. | :26:31. | |
for her advice about ties and suits and songs. | :26:32. | :26:35. | |
It's extremely kind of her and I'd be grateful if he'd pass that | :26:36. | :26:39. | |
I will certainly sent his good wishes back to my mother. | :26:40. | :26:49. | |
He seems to have taken her advice and is looking | :26:50. | :26:51. | |
When the main actor bows out, it's traditional they get a warm | :26:52. | :27:00. | |
Nothing is really impossible if you put your mind to it. | :27:01. | :27:04. | |
After all, as I once said, I was the future once. | :27:05. | :27:14. | |
The PM rose to a standing ovation from the Tories and former | :27:15. | :27:21. | |
Lib Dem coalition partners, who he'd slimed good and proper, | :27:22. | :27:23. | |
David Cameron went to the Palace to resign and the new leader | :27:24. | :27:33. | |
of the girl gang, Mrs May, went to see the Queen, | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
then entered Downing Street and tried to banish | :27:38. | :27:39. | |
Because not everybody knows this, but the full title of my party | :27:40. | :27:55. | |
is the Conservative and Unionist Party, and that word | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
It means we believe in the union, the precious, precious bond | :28:00. | :28:08. | |
between England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. | :28:09. | :28:12. | |
But it means something else that is just as important. | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
It means we believe in a union not just between the nations | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
of the United Kingdom but between all of our citizens, | :28:21. | :28:24. | |
every one of us, whoever we are and wherever we are from. | :28:25. | :28:35. | |
George Osborne was well and truly busted, exorcised from number 11. | :28:36. | :28:41. | |
Then began the paranormal return of some of the Brexiteers. | :28:42. | :28:57. | |
Liam Fox as Trade Minister, David Davis as Brexit negotiator, and the | :28:58. | :29:01. | |
return of the marshmallow man himself, | :29:02. | :29:04. | |
Boris Johnson at the Foreign Office. It's been a very busy first day | :29:05. | :29:06. | |
for me here at the Foreign Office and it began really with a big | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
speech to about 700 of our staff. I set out all I think we need to be | :29:12. | :29:14. | |
doing, what I think we need to focus on, and that is reshaping Britain's | :29:15. | :29:19. | |
profile and identity Today, we got some more female | :29:20. | :29:21. | |
appointments So what is going to | :29:22. | :29:24. | |
be in this sequel? Brexit means Brexit, | :29:25. | :29:34. | |
they say, but the outlines One thing is for certain, | :29:35. | :29:36. | |
the new female cast There's a woman in Downing Street | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
preparing to have talks with Angela Merkel and maybe even | :29:42. | :29:48. | |
Hillary Clinton. Larry the cat is just about the only | :29:49. | :29:50. | |
male who's been allowed to stay. Speaking of cats, where | :29:51. | :29:54. | |
are my kitten heels? And Miranda takes some time | :29:55. | :30:03. | |
off from busting ghosts before we proceed, let me bring you | :30:04. | :30:15. | |
up-to-date with this unfolding terrorist tragedy in Nice, southern | :30:16. | :30:22. | |
France. We are now getting a scale of the incredible, an idea of the | :30:23. | :30:26. | |
scale of what was going on. It now looks as if the truck drove for two | :30:27. | :30:31. | |
kilometres. I said earlier that the Promenade des Anglais is miles and | :30:32. | :30:37. | |
miles long, going all the way along the front at Nice. It looks like it | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
drove the two kilometres, on a promenade packed with people who | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
were out celebrating Bastille Day, the symbolic beginning of the French | :30:47. | :30:51. | |
revolution and the beginning of the French republic. That gives an idea | :30:52. | :30:54. | |
of why the death toll, which we now think is over 70 is so great. They | :30:55. | :31:00. | |
could find no way to stop this. People were clinging on to the doors | :31:01. | :31:04. | |
of the drug, trying to get the driver to stop, but it took a long | :31:05. | :31:07. | |
while before police could assemble in shoot out the windscreen. Le | :31:08. | :31:14. | |
Figaro is saying that several weapons, guns and grenades have been | :31:15. | :31:18. | |
found inside the lorry. The interior minister has said that the driver | :31:19. | :31:21. | |
who drove the truck has been neutralised, I am pretty sure that | :31:22. | :31:26. | |
means he has been killed. There are conflicting reports as to whether | :31:27. | :31:28. | |
the driver got out and started shooting. Some say yes, other | :31:29. | :31:34. | |
eyewitnesses say no. No hostages have been taken, contrary to some | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
earlier reports, but the death toll is rising by the minute. The scale | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
of this terrorist incident is being unveiled as time goes on. | :31:44. | :31:53. | |
Michael, these are uncertain and difficult times on a host of fronts. | :31:54. | :32:02. | |
It is Theresa May up to it? I last knew her properly 15 years ago and | :32:03. | :32:07. | |
she has come on by leaps and bounds since then. What she did as Home | :32:08. | :32:11. | |
Secretary took me immensely by surprise. She was tough, she was | :32:12. | :32:16. | |
there for six years. But what has most impressed me is the last 36 | :32:17. | :32:21. | |
hours in which she has acted with great decision, great ruthlessness | :32:22. | :32:27. | |
and achieved a pretty good balance. Her speech was pretty well-balanced. | :32:28. | :32:31. | |
She dealt with the question of whether we would exit the European | :32:32. | :32:35. | |
Union deftly, with two or three words which were, as we leave the | :32:36. | :32:41. | |
European Union, and then appointed two ministers to make sure we would | :32:42. | :32:46. | |
leave. She very bravely put George Osborne and Michael Gove on the | :32:47. | :32:50. | |
backbenches. This is really a night of the Long knives which has no | :32:51. | :32:54. | |
precedent since the days of Macmillan. She has acted very | :32:55. | :33:00. | |
boldly. She has been applauded, you just did it, for last in six years | :33:01. | :33:04. | |
at the Home Office. What did she actually achieved? She stood up to | :33:05. | :33:11. | |
the vested interests of the police in particular. She made a speech to | :33:12. | :33:15. | |
the Police Federation. What did she then do? She reduced police numbers | :33:16. | :33:22. | |
and maintain police effectiveness, I would say. The Treasury told her to | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
do that. She did not actually reform the police. She had a total failure | :33:27. | :33:34. | |
over immigration. I don't know in any way, I asked Chris Grayling, her | :33:35. | :33:38. | |
campaign manager, in what way were the borders more secure than six | :33:39. | :33:43. | |
years ago and he could not tell me. So I am not quite sure what she | :33:44. | :33:49. | |
achieved. I suppose most people are applauding her for... Just | :33:50. | :33:54. | |
surviving. Yes, but that is quite a big thing in that department. Why | :33:55. | :34:00. | |
did she sound like Ed Miliband in Downing Street? She felt was the | :34:01. | :34:06. | |
moment do precisely that. She feels it strongly herself, that she should | :34:07. | :34:12. | |
be a one nation Tory. Secondly, she sees an extraordinary political | :34:13. | :34:14. | |
opportunity because Jeremy Corbyn is abandoning the centre ground. She | :34:15. | :34:20. | |
talked about fairness between North and South, black-and-white, men and | :34:21. | :34:23. | |
women, privileged and underprivileged. It is no more than | :34:24. | :34:30. | |
boilerplate rhetoric, is it? It is almost pablum. Does she have any | :34:31. | :34:33. | |
idea of the policies required to achieve any of that? Well, we will | :34:34. | :34:41. | |
see. This idea of one nation, you are right to have brought up Ed | :34:42. | :34:47. | |
Miliband. There were chunks that could have been lifted from an Ed | :34:48. | :34:52. | |
Miliband speech. As we know, a Conservative Prime Minister can do | :34:53. | :34:55. | |
things that would look bad, Labour Prime Minister and vice versa. | :34:56. | :34:59. | |
Perhaps she can push through social reforms to do something about the | :35:00. | :35:02. | |
fact that there are so many people who feel they do not share in the | :35:03. | :35:05. | |
prosperity that made them vote to leave the European Union. I | :35:06. | :35:10. | |
understand the aim, but almost everybody has a version of these | :35:11. | :35:14. | |
aims. I am trying to work out if she has the policies. We don't know yet. | :35:15. | :35:19. | |
But there is a problem for the Labour Party because the Tories now | :35:20. | :35:23. | |
seem not just to want to occupy the centre right, not just the centre, | :35:24. | :35:29. | |
but it's of the centre-left as well. It is almost pushing the Labour | :35:30. | :35:35. | |
Party further to the left. David Cameron started like that, hugging | :35:36. | :35:39. | |
foodies, the greenest government ever, and that changed. He has one | :35:40. | :35:43. | |
thing to show for it, gay marriage, and not much else. 2.4 million more | :35:44. | :35:50. | |
jobs. Let's give credit there. Unemployment is not as high... Let's | :35:51. | :35:58. | |
give credit there. But in terms of what he has done to tackle | :35:59. | :36:03. | |
inequality, I don't see very much. If Theresa May or Damian Green came | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
out next week and said, we will abandon the bedroom tax, which is | :36:08. | :36:14. | |
symbolic, because we all deal, as constituency MPs, including Tory | :36:15. | :36:16. | |
constituencies, with the effect of that nasty, vicious piece of | :36:17. | :36:22. | |
legislation, that would be a start. Is she really going to put workers | :36:23. | :36:29. | |
on the board, I doubt it. That cannot possibly have been thought | :36:30. | :36:33. | |
through. I was relieved that the leadership campaign did not go on | :36:34. | :36:37. | |
longer and we did not get more promises of that kind. I don't know | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
what cheek can convert into policy, but I think she is achieving a tonal | :36:42. | :36:49. | |
change. -- what she can convert into policy. We have this referendum | :36:50. | :36:53. | |
because David Cameron was too clever by half. He took an enormous risk | :36:54. | :36:57. | |
which came home to roost, destroyed him and may have damaged the | :36:58. | :37:02. | |
country. Osborne was like that, and Gove fours like that. She has got | :37:03. | :37:05. | |
rid of the people who were too clever by half. The Notting Hill | :37:06. | :37:13. | |
set. And she is a solid, perhaps somewhat plodding person, and | :37:14. | :37:17. | |
Phillip Hammond is a solid, somewhat plodding person. That could be | :37:18. | :37:26. | |
deeply reassuring. Why Boris Johnson? Unfortunately, the mirror | :37:27. | :37:30. | |
to what Michael is describing, the safe, plodding Prime Minister and | :37:31. | :37:34. | |
Chancellor, there is a terrible flip side, which is that we seem to have | :37:35. | :37:39. | |
someone who is not that at all as our Foreign Secretary and | :37:40. | :37:42. | |
representative around the world. I am also worried about David Davis | :37:43. | :37:45. | |
being in charge of Brexit negotiations. I know that is seen as | :37:46. | :37:50. | |
the right appointment because it proves she will do Brexit, but as a | :37:51. | :37:54. | |
negotiator who can actually sit in the room and come back with deals to | :37:55. | :38:00. | |
suit both sides, is he the right person? Here has a lot of | :38:01. | :38:05. | |
experience. He has been more of a commentator recently, really. She | :38:06. | :38:11. | |
has gone for more grey hairs. Including herself. She is nine years | :38:12. | :38:17. | |
older. The three biggest Brexit jobs have gone to David Davis, Boris | :38:18. | :38:24. | |
Johnson and Liam Fox, not exactly the three Amigos. Unless Boris is | :38:25. | :38:28. | |
there to keep him in when they announced the third runway at | :38:29. | :38:32. | |
Heathrow, I am not sure. But who is going to take control of that? It | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
should be the Foreign Secretary. We have two lead it. Miranda, good to | :38:37. | :38:42. | |
see you. Lovely outfit and you were great in the movie. | :38:43. | :38:45. | |
David Cameron once said that the reason he wanted to be | :38:46. | :38:48. | |
Prime Minister was that, "I thought I'd be good at it". | :38:49. | :38:50. | |
But being PM isn't all it's cracked up to be. | :38:51. | :38:54. | |
Sure, you've got the nuclear launch codes and you don't have | :38:55. | :38:56. | |
to stop at traffic lights, and you get to pretend Barack Obama | :38:57. | :38:59. | |
You have to point at fish in Portuguese markets and look | :39:00. | :39:04. | |
like you're enjoy flying on Easyjet when you go on holiday, | :39:05. | :39:06. | |
to show you're not part of the global elite. | :39:07. | :39:09. | |
So God only knows why Theresa May would want the top job. | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
And that's why we're putting frontwomen in the Spotlight. | :39:14. | :39:24. | |
Theresa May has attracted plenty of comparisons with the Tories' | :39:25. | :39:28. | |
original frontwoman, Margaret Thatcher. | :39:29. | :39:30. | |
Some say we shouldn't obsess over the gender of our new PM, | :39:31. | :39:33. | |
but surely there's no denying this is a historic moment. | :39:34. | :39:38. | |
When it comes to woman prime ministers, I'm very pleased to be | :39:39. | :39:41. | |
able to say, pretty soon, it's going to be 2-0. | :39:42. | :39:44. | |
On the other side of the chamber, Labour has never had | :39:45. | :39:47. | |
a woman up front, apart from temporary stand-ins. | :39:48. | :39:49. | |
Angela Eagle triggered a leadership contest this week, | :39:50. | :39:53. | |
It certainly feels like the times are a-changing. | :39:54. | :40:09. | |
Theresa could soon find herself bargaining with Angela, | :40:10. | :40:11. | |
Her bid to become Leader of the Free World got a boost this | :40:12. | :40:18. | |
week from her former Democrat rival, Bernie Sanders. | :40:19. | :40:21. | |
She will be the next President of the United States. | :40:22. | :40:27. | |
And living the good life - Cerys Matthews has headed up a band, | :40:28. | :40:30. | |
radio shows and now her very own music festival. | :40:31. | :40:33. | |
So, whether it's in rock and roll or in politics, what does it take | :40:34. | :40:37. | |
to be frontwoman in what's traditionally been a man's world? | :40:38. | :40:45. | |
And joining us for the This Week summer festival, Cerys Matthews. | :40:46. | :40:53. | |
Welcome to the programme. Thank you. Do we still think, it is a front | :40:54. | :41:06. | |
woman? Or are we getting used to it? People used to ask me when I was in | :41:07. | :41:12. | |
a band about being a woman leading a band, I would say, I don't know what | :41:13. | :41:16. | |
it is like to be a man leading a band. I have never identified myself | :41:17. | :41:20. | |
as a front woman, just a front person. I always believed it is the | :41:21. | :41:26. | |
person with ability that should get the job, no matter how they present. | :41:27. | :41:33. | |
Do people still think, hey, it is a woman heading the band, the | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
festival? Obviously there is work to be done because the numbers do not | :41:39. | :41:43. | |
add up, which is what is exciting about the Cabinet reshuffle, | :41:44. | :41:46. | |
whatever your politics. It is a glimpse of hopefully a future when | :41:47. | :41:51. | |
the numbers are going to add up. It turns out she has only added one | :41:52. | :41:55. | |
extra woman. The march of the women did not quite happen. But when you | :41:56. | :42:01. | |
look over the world... Having said that, when you look in the EU, poor | :42:02. | :42:06. | |
Angela Merkel is there in a see of suits, so there is a lot of work to | :42:07. | :42:11. | |
be done. Hopefully in the future it will be old-fashioned to have this | :42:12. | :42:15. | |
conversation. Is it not already going in that direction? I remember | :42:16. | :42:21. | |
when Mrs Thatcher was chosen leader of the Tory party in 1975, it was a | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
huge issue that she was a woman. That was the main news story. It is | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
obviously historic that Mrs May is only the second woman Prime | :42:32. | :42:36. | |
Minister, but it is not such a big issue and that suggests progress. | :42:37. | :42:40. | |
What is a fresh ink is that my daughter is 12 and her generation | :42:41. | :42:46. | |
absolutely do not want gender specifications. -- what is | :42:47. | :42:50. | |
refreshing. They are about gender fluidity or neutrality. When I grew | :42:51. | :42:56. | |
up, I was perplexed about the reason I could not do woodwork and I was | :42:57. | :43:01. | |
shoved into do sewing. I wanted to play football. I just wanted to put | :43:02. | :43:07. | |
my head down and get things done and get to do things I wanted to do, | :43:08. | :43:13. | |
like lead a band and be a force for positive change. I think it would be | :43:14. | :43:19. | |
fair to say that for your daughter the 21st-century will be the century | :43:20. | :43:22. | |
of women in a way that the 20th century... I hope it is for women, | :43:23. | :43:29. | |
the LG BT community, all colours, all creeds, the person with the | :43:30. | :43:34. | |
right ability gets the job. That means there will be more women. You | :43:35. | :43:40. | |
would hope so. Is it 50-50 in the world? There are still work to do. | :43:41. | :43:47. | |
The Festival? It is great. It is an antidote to being indoors on your | :43:48. | :43:52. | |
screens. You get out, meet people, passionate people, great ideas, | :43:53. | :43:56. | |
food, literature music and the greater -- the great outdoors. All | :43:57. | :44:06. | |
genders are welcome. Thank you very much. I am sorry we are short on | :44:07. | :44:11. | |
time. Our hearts are with all victims of terrorist attacks the | :44:12. | :44:14. | |
world over. Thank you for having me on. That is your lot for tonight but | :44:15. | :44:22. | |
we will be followed by the news with continuing coverage on the BBC of | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
the unfolding terrible terrorist tragedy in Nice. | :44:27. | :44:29. | |
That's your lot for tonight, folks - but not for us, because it's | :44:30. | :44:32. | |
John Whittingdale's leaving party tonight at Lou Lou's - | :44:33. | :44:34. | |
and, if we don't turn up, the place could be deserted. | :44:35. | :44:37. | |
But we leave you tonight with our former Prime Minister, | :44:38. | :44:39. | |
and a week when - at very short notice - Call-Me-Dave had | :44:40. | :44:42. | |
to call the removal van, and his referendum fail finally | :44:43. | :44:44. | |
# I won't be the one to disappoint you | :44:45. | :45:17. | |
# I won't be the one to disappoint you any more | :45:18. | :45:24. | |
# I won't be the one to disappoint you | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
# I won't be the one to disappoint you any more | :45:29. | :45:38. | |
# I won't be the one to disappoint you | :45:39. | :45:43. | |
# I won't be the one to disappoint you any more. | :45:44. | :45:48. | |
# This place is home | :45:49. | :45:56. | |
to more than 80,000 refugees, who fled their homes | :45:57. | :45:59. | |
in war-torn Syria. | :46:00. | :46:03. |