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07/12/2017

Andrew Neil reviews the political week with Michael Portillo and Alan Johnson. Plus Kate McCann looks back at the headlines and Tim Shipman examines political chaos.


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When I found you, I saw

raw, untamed power.

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And beyond that...

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Something truly special.

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Tonight on This Week: War

and conflict is tearing the

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galaxy apart.

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Tim Skywalker Shipman dusts

off his light sabre, and tries

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to cut through the mystery

of Westminster.

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May, Corbyn - can anyone

save us from the dark side,

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whatever that is?

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Princess Kate McCann

travels through hyperspace

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for this week's round-up.

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On planet politics,

peace and harmony seems a

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long time ago in a

galaxy far, far away.

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And Jedi John Culshaw wonders

if This Week will even make it to

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the next sequel.

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I sincerely hope not, Darth Neill.

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The show's already gone

on for a long time.

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There can be only one

winner on This Week

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tonight.

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Which one of us is the bad guy?

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I am.

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May the Force be with you.

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Fulfil...

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Your...

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Destiny.

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Evenin' all.

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Welcome to This Week -

the week in which Theresa May

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finally discovered what the "U"

in DUP stands for.

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Yep, Unionist.

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Who'da thunk it?

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Though you might have

thought the Leader of

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the Conservative And Unionist Party

could have guessed.

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Perhaps there's a certain

metropolitan snobbery -

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a Home Counties hauteur -

when it comes to dealing

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with the Democratic Unionist Party.

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The London political and media

establishment tends to regard

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the DUP with all the affection it

accords Red Necks from Alabama.

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Religious fundamentalists,

provincial hicks with strange

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accents, obsessed with identity

and possessing unfashionable,

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even antediluvian, social views.

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It's a point of view, I suppose.

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But just because you disagree

with them is no reason to disrespect

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them, especially if you're a Tory

and they're keeping you in power.

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These are folks who've

come up the hard way.

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The party's leader, Arlene Foster,

saw her father gunned down

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by the IRA when she was a child.

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A few years later terrorists

blew up her school bus.

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A rather more testing political

genesis than the one experienced

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by your average shire Tory.

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So it's probably not wise

to underestimate the DUP or assume

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it can be dragooned into line

at your convenience

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and at the last moment,

as the PM discovered,

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to her peril, this week.

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Tonight the DUP is subjecting her

to Belfast's version

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of Chinese water-torture,

even as the mood music

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turns more positive.

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Speaking of those who've been

consistently over-estimated

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throughout their modest careers,

I'm joined on the sofa tonight

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by two pundits who between them

constitute their very

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own Coalition of Chaos.

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I speak of course of Michael

#sadmanonatrain Portillo,

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and Alan #sadmanontheleft Johnson.

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Michael, your moment of the week?

Well, I suppose the moment that will

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live the longest in history is the

decision by Donald Trump

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live the longest in history is the

decision by Donald Trump to move the

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American embassy in Israel to

Jerusalem. Jerusalem is a city of

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profound importance to Muslims,

Christians and Jews. It Tel Aviv is

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a much larger city with an

international airport and the

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seaside. In Jerusalem, you are aware

of how stressful situation is. It

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will be more stressful now. There

wasn't much hope for peace in the

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Middle East, I think, but they're

sure isn't any now.

It may not

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happen, because the move won't

happen until after 2020, but

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nevertheless...

An important symbol.

A very important symbol, and it has

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caused a lot of anguish. Alan?

Theresa May had a bad week over

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Brexit so far.

Not over yet!

She has

had a terrible week on the social

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issues, the burning injustices.

The

social mobility commission.

They

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have resigned en masse. It was a

juicer rowan tree foundation report

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that said that 400,000 more children

have fallen into poverty since 2013.

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The Institute for Fiscal Studies

that might be jealous of Rowntree

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foundation. On top of the social

policy -- the Joseph Rowntree

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foundation. A report has been with

Government for a year and nothing

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has been done about it. There seems

to have been complete in action from

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what was her stated priority on the

steps of Downing Street.

They said

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that it looked like Brexit was

taking up all the bandwidth.

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Politics has never seemed more

unpredictable - or precarious.

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For months we're told

that the Brexit negotiations

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will come unstuck over the money -

only for that largely to be

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resolved and for them to be

scuppered, at least for now,

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by the Irish border.

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Expectations of Theresa May's demise

grow by the day but she ploughs

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on in her very own version

of the Bataan Death March,

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leaving behind casualties

strewn by the wayside.

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Recent polls give Jeremy Corbyn

a comfortable lead but Corbynistas

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fret that he may yet be denied

the early election that they think

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would guarantee his victory.

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At uncertain times like these,

psephologists, pollsters and pundits

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are proving to be pretty useless.

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Perhaps what we need

are mathematicians

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versed in chaos theory.

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Of course here on This Week

we cannot afford that

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sort of expertise.

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So here's cheap as chips

Tim Shipman of The Sunday Times

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with his take of the week.

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So the DUP torpedoed phase one

of Brexit talks on Monday.

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"Couldn't run a piss up

in a brewery", Ed Miliband tweeted.

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But it's very difficult to do

anything properly as Prime Minister

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when your squabbling Cabinet is out

to get you, you're personally not

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great under pressure,

and you're at the mercy

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of the ruthless DUP.

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It's not just the heavy lifting

of Brexit that looks chaotic.

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The Tories can't even get

the simple stuff right.

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We were left to EU sources

to explain the draft deal that had

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been proposed on the Irish border.

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Why didn't the Brexit

department quickly communicate

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what they thought it meant

to British journalists?

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And why can't the Cabinet

keep their conflicts under wraps?

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Charging the Chancellor to use

RAF planes and calling

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the Defence Secretary Private Pike

doesn't look like a strong

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and stable government.

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But is it time to stir rumours

of government collapse?

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Concerned that her Brexit red lines

need an extra coat of paint,

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as Jacob Rees-Mogg put it,

the Eurosceptics are revolting.

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The best hope for May is that they,

the Cabinet and the DUP

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all remember their shared objective,

keeping Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party

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on the opposition benches.

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May's chances of clinging

on and fighting the next election

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are helped by Labour's incompetence.

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Corbyn and his team failed to rub

salt in May's wounds on Monday

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after her embarrassment.

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Why?

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Because Labour is just as divided

and confused on Europe

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as the Conservatives,

and they always miss

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an opportunity to twist the knife.

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Thanks.

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So amidst all this chaos,

is there an opportunity

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for the Remainers to block Brexit?

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Don't bet on it.

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In an age without effective

leadership, politicians

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are led by public opinion.

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And British attitudes

to the European Union show

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no sign of changing.

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Deal or no deal,

we're leaving Europe.

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Thanks to the Bianca Road

Brewery in Bermondsey.

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Tim is here - as sober

as a judge, of course.

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At least, he told me to say that!

Good to see you. Michael, is it all

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as chaotic as Tim claims?

No, it's

pretty chaotic, but I think Brexit

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is advancing fairly well. Despite

the famous splits in the

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Conservative party, amazingly, the

money went through the Conservative

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party with hardly a murmur. The deal

that was scuppered last week was

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scuppered by the DUP, not the

Conservative party. They have

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accepted the sort of Irish solution

there was going to be. Even the EU

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Commission seems keen to move onto

the next stage, and I think the

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Irish question will be settled,

probably in the next few hours, but

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anyway, in the next few days, and we

will get onto talking about the

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trade deal. Despite experience of --

despite the appearance of chaos, I

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think it will work. The chances of

there being a deal are much better

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than 50-50. It is becoming what we

expect - there was going to be a

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deal.

Allen, as we broadcast

tonight, the Prime minister's plane

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is on the runway ready to take her

to Brussels, and there was talk of a

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press conference was Jean-Claude

Juncker, the president of the

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commission. There is a Chinese water

torture going on with the DUP, but

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when we wake up, it could be that

Brexit does mean breakfast, after

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all, in Brussels.

Yes, and I think

Tim is wrong in thinking there is

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any hope of pulling the fat out of

the fire on leaving the EU. The big

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question is whether we stay in the

single market and Customs union.

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This deal, part of it of course is

about EU citizens, so we don't know

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the role of the ECJ yet.

We do

almost, because I've seen the draft.

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It may have changed. What it says is

that the British courts,

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particularly the Supreme Court, will

be free to consult the ECJ. And that

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will be time limited, I have,

tonight, to ten years.

Theresa May

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is the author of her own problems.

Apparently, she decided, with her

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advisers, with no reference to

Cabinet even, that our policy would

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become out of the single market and

Customs union without keeping

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options open, and now she is running

into reality. It is either a

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separate deal for Ireland and a

border in the Irish Sea, or there is

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a hard border in Ireland, or they

remain part of the customs union,

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and that solves the problem.

Tim,

don't we in the media spend too much

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time chasing ghosts? We get far too

excited about matters that end up

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being quietly resolved.

That would

be the argument Downing Street is

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trying to make this week. The Berlin

there are saying, this will blow

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over. As Michael says, we will get a

deal and everyone will be happy. I

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think what has upset members of the

Parliamentary Conservative party is

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the way it has been handled. They

think it has been chaotic and

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incompetent.

They are quite grateful

to the DUP.

Indeed, and not all the

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MPs have spoken to have been relaxed

about some of the things suggested.

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Iain Duncan Smith this week, a guy

who has been loyal to Theresa May

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for months, and he has broken cover

and said he doesn't like the

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direction things are going in.

Theresa May has been having crisis

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meetings in the last two days with

Boris Johnson and Michael Gove to

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Gove to try to get them on board. It

has not been straightforward, and

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throughout, the Government has

failed to communicate what it is

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trying to achieve.

I understand. It

is almost a self-inflicted mess,

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again, by failing to square the DUP.

Doesn't this always happen with the

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EU? I followed the Greek bailout

talks closely. That was endless

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setbacks and walking away, but in

the end, it was bailed out.

You

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know, the expectation is that she

will get there.

Do you agree with

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her?

I think it is likely they will

get there fairly soon. The problem

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is, the way it has been handled has

unnerved people who think the Prime

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Minister has shown again that she is

not fully on top of her game. That

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has made probably what happens over

the next year more difficult. There

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are people saying we should get rid

of her by Christmas, and that hasn't

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happened since the party conference.

Journalists obsess about the latest

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drama, but only because we are

getting calls from Conservative MPs

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were obsessing about it themselves.

It is a function of Theresa May's

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lack of authority since the

election. But she is still there.

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Yes, we know why she is still there.

It is even acquiring a certain

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amount of longevity or permanence,

actually. Part of the discussion is

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slightly unfair. We did have at one

time to have reached this stage in

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October, but since then, we have

expected to reach it now, in

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December. What was unexpected was

the flurry early this week when

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suddenly the briefing from the

commission was that we would have a

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deal that day, which was unexpected.

We didn't expect to have it until

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tomorrow. I think that caught the

British unaware and they were

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bounced into a position from which

they were not ready, they didn't

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have the DUP on board, but that is

because the timing had been changed

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on the British. Now, we're back to

the timing we thought we were run

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the first place, and it looks like

we will have a deal Friday.

We have

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monitored quite carefully, because

it is the Government, the Tory

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chaos. Pinning Labour down on its

position on the single market of the

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customs union is pretty difficult

too, depending on who you speak to.

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I want to put this to you, Alan. If

Labour were to win a snap election,

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and there could be one -- a snap

election, and there could be one, do

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you think they would end up trying

to stay in the EU?

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I don't think so. The policy would

change, much as they would seek

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extra time to negotiate Article 50,

during which time we would remain in

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the customs union and single market.

The Tories were talking about a

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bespoke deal for that period and it

was Keir Starmer who said no. But

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there are voices like John McDonnell

and Barry Gardiner who have said we

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should be out of the customs union

and the single market. But me, they

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have been good for Britain and you

can remain in them if you are

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outside the EU, which is the

starting point of ensuring the

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British economy does not suffer.

If

Labour did get into power, Tim and

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others, we have all looked at the

divisions in the Tory party, but in

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government, would there be the

danger of an almighty row between

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the pro-Europe Social Democrats in

the Labour Party and the anti-Europe

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Marxists.

Good question. I'm not

sure. I do know the vast majority of

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Labour supporters are in favour of

Britain remaining in the European

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Union. Two thirds voted to remain in

the European Union in every

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constituency. So the position of the

party is clear. The people you are

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talking about, they saw that and

shied away, even though their heart

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is not in it, they still believe we

should be out of the EU and they

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frankly don't give a toss about the

issues. Whether they are strong

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enough, through their fan club to

create those divisions, you might be

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right.

Let's come back to the Tory

divisions, because they are the ones

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in power. If there is no agreement,

supposing the plane does not leave

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in the middle of the night for

Brussels, does not leave at all,

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because they can't get agreement, if

they don't get to the next stage of

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negotiations, will the Tory

Brexiteers become more vocal in

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saying to the government, let's walk

away?

Absolutely. Some have broken

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cover. You have seen Owen Paterson

saying that and Nigel Lawson saying

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much the same. Lots of people have

been phoning journalists this week

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saying, she needs this deal, or

else. I have never seen why we need

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it by the weekend. I would have

thought next Thursday at the summit

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be adequate. But there are forces

circulating that if the Prime

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Minister does not get this nailed

down she will have a distinctly

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uncomfortable Christmas.

I certainly

agree on the Friday Thursday point.

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Tomorrow is another artificial

deadline. The other point is that it

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isn't at the moment a failure to get

a deal with the European Union, but

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a failure to get deal with the DUP.

That changes the context.

The big

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change this week is that Brussels,

the commission, wanted to get on

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with it. That is a big change.

That

is a huge change. Some in the

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Conservative Party will see the DUP

as important flag carriers for their

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point of view, but others will see

this as a rather wretched result of

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being stuck in a coalition.

The

pressure on Theresa May, from the

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people who had been driving the

Brexit bus, the hard Brexiteers, and

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she is to blame because she rode on

the bus with them, they are looking

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to see how much we are paying, does

the ECJ have any role, does it mean

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even a hint of us staying in the

customs union? That is her problem

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and what encourages me this week is

the voices of the sensible

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Conservatives who, I think, are

still the majority in the

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Conservative Party, pragmatic, get a

deal, let's move on to trade, they

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seem to be more emboldened.

We are

almost at Christmas and it has been

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the most remarkable political year

just in Britain alone, never mind

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anywhere else. But the Prime

Minister calling the election

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promised a strong and stable

government and we joked that it was

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weak and unstable. But actually, it

has turned out to be weak and

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unstable. We never saw that coming!

The thing that is keeping everyone

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in line, the one thing that pulls

all these people together, is that

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they do not want to see Jeremy

Corbyn as Prime Minister. That is a

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significant factor which keeps the

DUP in line.

On the whole, we talk

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about the possible general election,

that would normally follow a vote of

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confidence. If there were a vote of

confidence, every Tory and DUP would

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vote for the government, because the

DUP certainly do not want to see

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Jeremy Corbyn in. In the context of

history, if we delayed by a week, by

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a dispute in Ireland, in the

historical context, that would be

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minimal. Ireland has been so

disruptive for the British and

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Britain has been so disruptive for

the Irish, you have to put it in

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context. Our policy has often been

determined, for water damned messed

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up by our relations with Ireland.

The one major cause of future

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uncertainty was alluded to at the

beginning, that we still don't know,

0:20:590:21:03

Brussels still does not know the end

state of what the government wants

0:21:030:21:08

in a new relationship with the EU,

and that is yet to be resolved.

They

0:21:080:21:14

still say the Prime Minister will

have that conversation with cabinet

0:21:140:21:18

before Christmas. That will be a

difficult series of meetings. The

0:21:180:21:22

one issue Alan did not latch onto

when he was talking through this is

0:21:220:21:26

how aligned we are with the European

Union going forward. What caused the

0:21:260:21:32

problem with the Brexiteers this

week was the suggestion that Theresa

0:21:320:21:37

May, in aligning with Dublin, would

put the UK in permanent alignment

0:21:370:21:41

with the EU.

Ireland brought the

alignment issue to the fore.

We want

0:21:410:21:49

to be outside the EU and to have

free trade, and to know whether 50

0:21:490:21:54

billion is enough to buy that.

On

that noncontroversial point, your

0:21:540:22:01

book is out which catalogues this

amazing year. Every political

0:22:010:22:05

stocking should have won.

If you

have a thick stockings.

It is a big

0:22:050:22:11

book.

0:22:110:22:12

It's late.

0:22:120:22:13

Doctor Who late.

0:22:130:22:14

We were shocked, this week,

to discover that the trans-gender

0:22:140:22:17

regeneration of our favourite sci-fi

hero, from gnarly old Scotsman

0:22:170:22:19

to feisty young Yorkshire lass,

was delayed for several years.

0:22:190:22:21

So what dark forces conspired

to bar a female time lord

0:22:210:22:24

from the police box for so long?

0:22:240:22:26

A Dalek invasion?

0:22:260:22:27

Nope!

0:22:270:22:28

A Sontaran death ray

trained on Pinner?

0:22:280:22:30

Nope.

0:22:300:22:31

Apparently the delay was all down

to Brexit voters being hostile

0:22:310:22:34

to the idea of a woman Doctor.

0:22:340:22:35

At least, that's what the show's

producer is claiming.

0:22:350:22:38

I know.

0:22:380:22:40

As excuses go, it's pretty weak.

0:22:400:22:42

But he's from Paisley.

0:22:420:22:44

Excuses are not our forte.

0:22:440:22:45

Someone who's not going to be phased

by the Doctor's sex change -

0:22:450:22:48

and has even done impressions

of the previous incarnations -

0:22:480:22:51

is impressionist Jon Culshaw,

who'll be putting "posturing"

0:22:510:22:54

under the Spotlight.

0:22:540:22:57

And if you're still insisting

on getting in touch via the Tweeter,

0:22:570:23:00

the Fleecebook and the

Snapnumpty, then beware.

0:23:000:23:03

I may have been lying

about the Sontaran death ray,

0:23:030:23:05

but I'm still capable of zapping

you right in the Dimblebys!

0:23:050:23:10

Now, we all like a bargain,

especially in the

0:23:100:23:12

run-up to Christmas.

0:23:120:23:14

America's purchase of Alaska

from the Russians in 1867

0:23:140:23:16

was clearly a snip at $7 million,

but not as big a bargain

0:23:160:23:20

as Michael's shirts,

which Primark will pay you to remove

0:23:200:23:23

from their shelves.

0:23:230:23:26

Or volume 47 of Alan's memoirs,

which is not just being discounted.

0:23:260:23:30

It's being remaindered.

0:23:300:23:33

And what about Momentum's election

spending, which has been logged

0:23:330:23:36

at just over £38,000?

0:23:360:23:38

Yes, Jezza's imperial stormtroopers

very nearly pulled off the political

0:23:380:23:42

coup of the century for less

than the price of a

0:23:420:23:45

high-end Volvo estate.

0:23:450:23:49

I can't believe those grumpy

mugwumps at the Electoral Commission

0:23:490:23:52

are investigating the expenses

of the Corbynista

0:23:520:23:56

Revolutionary Guard.

0:23:560:23:57

They should be put in

charge of the Treasury.

0:23:570:23:59

Anyway, here's Kate McCann

from the Telegraph with her

0:23:590:24:01

round up of the week.

0:24:010:24:03

After some pretty heated Brexit

negotiations, what could be more

0:24:170:24:22

refreshing than Alpine air? Time to

replace red lines with red runs. At

0:24:220:24:27

the beginning of the week, it seemed

the PM was on a home run. We were

0:24:270:24:31

braced for a historical day on

Brexit, agreement on a crucial

0:24:310:24:36

sticking point, the Irish border,

had been reached. But not so fast,

0:24:360:24:41

what about the DUP?

We have been

very clear. Northern Ireland must

0:24:410:24:50

leave the European Union on the same

terms as the rest of the UK and we

0:24:500:24:54

will not accept any form of

regulatory divergences which

0:24:540:25:00

separates Northern Ireland,

economically or politically, from

0:25:000:25:02

the rest of the UK.

And with her

boot firmly in, snowy optimism

0:25:020:25:10

turned to slush and the Irish PM

said he might even veto trade talks

0:25:100:25:15

meant to start in Brussels next

week. The PM's phone call with the

0:25:150:25:25

DUP leader on Wednesday morning

failed to produce results in time

0:25:250:25:28

for PMQs. An opportunity for Jeremy

Corbyn, but one he let slide.

18

0:25:280:25:36

months after the referendum the

Prime Minister is unable to answer

0:25:360:25:38

the question. And on Monday, as she

thought she was coming here to make

0:25:380:25:44

a statement, it was vetoed by the

leader of the DUP. The tale really

0:25:440:25:54

is wagging the dog here.

B will

ensure we leave the European Union

0:25:540:26:01

in March 2019. We will leave the

internal market, we will leave the

0:26:010:26:05

customs union at the same time, we

will ensure there is no hard border

0:26:050:26:10

between Northern Ireland and the

Republic of Ireland when we do it.

0:26:100:26:17

At least the PM had her backbenchers

onside, right?

Will she apply a new

0:26:170:26:24

coat of paint to her red lines

because on Monday they were

0:26:240:26:28

beginning to look little pink.

Would

it help if I came over to Brussels

0:26:280:26:33

with you to sort them out?

If PMQs

did not shed light on our departure,

0:26:330:26:44

MPs were stunned when David Davis

tried to explain the impact

0:26:440:26:46

assessments.

The government has not

undertaken any impact assessments on

0:26:460:26:53

the dangers of leaving the EU for

the British economy. So there isn't

0:26:530:26:58

one, for example, on the automotive

sector.

Not that I'm aware of.

0:26:580:27:05

Aerospace?

No. The answer is going

to be no to all of them.

Right.

0:27:050:27:20

Brexit was also blamed this week for

leaving the government without the

0:27:200:27:24

bandwidth to help those left out in

the cold, after the social mode to

0:27:240:27:29

Czar quipped. Emotions ran high in

Parliament as Labour MP Frank Field

0:27:290:27:34

explained the impact of universal

credit on one of his constituents.

0:27:340:27:39

For the first time, a gentleman rose

after we had spoken and I tried to

0:27:390:27:43

persuade him not to commit suicide.

Such was the desperate mess that he

0:27:430:27:49

saw in the future for himself. And I

realised that the hand that shook my

0:27:490:27:55

hand was wet. He had been crying.

I

don't know where to start after

0:27:550:27:59

that. I am humbled by the words from

my honourable good friend. No

0:27:590:28:07

government is perfect, no benefit

system is perfect, no debate, no

0:28:070:28:12

motion is perfect but we work

together and make this better.

0:28:120:28:22

Parliament at its best. Speaking of

which, Damian Green's colleagues

0:28:220:28:26

rallied round this week after a

former police officer, himself

0:28:260:28:30

perhaps a little guilty of staring,

said he was left in no doubt that

0:28:300:28:34

the first Secretary of State had

accessed pornography on his

0:28:340:28:38

parliamentary computer. As

accusations of vendettas flew, the

0:28:380:28:44

Met Police said the former police

officers can be prosecuted.

This is

0:28:440:28:48

a case from nine years ago. Police

officers know they have a duty of

0:28:480:28:53

confidentiality, a duty to protect

personal information. That duty, in

0:28:530:28:59

my view, clearly endures after you

leave the service. So it is my view

0:28:590:29:04

that what they have done, based on

my understanding of what they are

0:29:040:29:08

saying, what they have done is

wrong, and I condemn it.

Apres ski,

0:29:080:29:21

and the chance to catch up with a

magazine while Alan and Michael are

0:29:210:29:27

in the hot tub. What is a hostile

takeover? As Labour councillors

0:29:270:29:32

complained of purges, there is a

more positive narrative.

This is

0:29:320:29:40

about democratisation of the Labour

Party and there is a correlation

0:29:400:29:43

between that and improved electoral

performance, empirically. It is

0:29:430:29:47

observable. I would say this is

instrumentally vital to a

0:29:470:29:53

reinvigorated party membership.

Speaking of invigoration, it is time

0:29:530:29:58

to hit the slopes. I hear Philip

Hammond needs a new mode of

0:29:580:30:01

transport. These are strong and

stable.

0:30:010:30:10

Merci beaucoup, Apres London

at the Flat Iron in London.

0:30:180:30:22

Fresh from the winter sun

we are joined by Kate McCann.

0:30:220:30:27

Welcome. Have you managed to

discover why the DUP was so

0:30:270:30:37

mishandled?

Know, and I think it's

one of the biggest questions of the

0:30:370:30:40

week. It goes to the heart of what

Theresa May's problem is, because if

0:30:400:30:44

you look at the issues she has had

as a Prime Minister of her short

0:30:440:30:49

leadership, a lot of them come back

to the inability to control the

0:30:490:30:53

media narrative. While you might not

think that is important, at the

0:30:530:30:56

start of this week, she let one

story run away with her without

0:30:560:31:00

trying to control it at all. The

Government could have got on the

0:31:000:31:03

front foot when the Irish Government

came out and said, we have a great

0:31:030:31:07

deal and it will look really good

for us, that was obviously

0:31:070:31:10

frustrating for Arlene Foster and

that is what scuppered it. Theresa

0:31:100:31:13

May could have done something to

prevent that from happening. She

0:31:130:31:19

could have tried to rein it in, and

she didn't.

She is leader of the

0:31:190:31:24

Conservative and Unionist Party.

What bit of that didn't she get?

And

0:31:240:31:31

she is in a coalition with the DUP

as well. At the risk of repeating

0:31:310:31:35

myself, I think the speed of events,

we were all very surprised. I

0:31:350:31:42

remember the surprise in the voice

of the BBC correspondent when they

0:31:420:31:46

suddenly said, we are getting all

these positive noises out of the

0:31:460:31:49

commission and it looks like we will

get a deal today. The commission was

0:31:490:31:52

ready but the British won't. The

British hadn't squared it. Settling

0:31:520:31:59

the two halves of the island of

Ireland is very difficult. You like

0:31:590:32:05

the point is, she knew she was going

out on an issue did with Ireland,

0:32:050:32:09

and she relies on those ten votes

for confidence and supply. You would

0:32:090:32:17

have thought she would have made

absolutely sure she had nailed this

0:32:170:32:21

down. You may be able to tell us

Kate, but she didn't even need

0:32:210:32:25

Arlene Foster rendered DUP. She left

it to an inexperienced chief whip on

0:32:250:32:29

the Sunday together and talk to

them. And then there was the leaking

0:32:290:32:33

to the Irish media and all that. She

is maladroit. She is the author of

0:32:330:32:41

her own problems. She would have had

a triumph on Monday, instead of

0:32:410:32:46

which, she may have a triumph

tomorrow, but it will be diminished

0:32:460:32:51

by the farce.

That may be true, but

she also is almost like the Arnold

0:32:510:32:59

Schwarzenegger in the terminator. It

doesn't matter what happens, you

0:32:590:33:03

press it into a little metal ball,

it melts, then suddenly it all comes

0:33:030:33:07

together again and she is still

there.

Nobody else wants it. Brexit

0:33:070:33:14

is a poisoned chalice. Whoever was

in Theresa May's position now would

0:33:140:33:17

have to grapple with these issues.

There are people on the backbenches

0:33:170:33:21

who talk a good game, but they don't

want it until this is over and done

0:33:210:33:25

with, because it won't look good for

whoever is holding the baby when we

0:33:250:33:30

leave the EU, because of things like

Northern Ireland and the border and

0:33:300:33:42

because they are so complex. You're

right, there are grumblings about

0:33:420:33:44

her, and she seems to be getting it

wrong frequently, but I still think

0:33:440:33:47

she's not going to be.

Allen, in

your view, does it look more likely

0:33:470:33:49

than not that she won't get through

the winter?

I have been dining out

0:33:490:33:52

on saying she will be gone by

Christmas. I thought David Davis,

0:33:520:33:56

who has one chance and really wants

it, would be the main protagonists.

0:33:560:34:01

What Michael said earlier on about

the one wanting a general election,

0:34:010:34:04

including the public, by the way, is

right. That is why the Conservatives

0:34:040:34:10

will probably there until 2022. --

will probably be there. Everyone

0:34:100:34:19

thought she was toast and it was

just about when she came out of the

0:34:190:34:24

toaster. Maybe they will leave it

until after March 20 19. I think she

0:34:240:34:28

will definitely be gone. You are

right, Andrew - the more she goes

0:34:280:34:32

on, the more she seems to be

stoical. It might well be that she

0:34:320:34:39

stays.

It is like the first tack-mac

terminator movie. What has happened

0:34:390:34:46

to David Davis?

At the committee

this week.

He looked a rather

0:34:460:34:54

forlorn underpowered figure.

Somebody said to me he has been cut

0:34:540:34:57

out of the loop quite a bit now.

I

think he is an interesting one,

0:34:570:35:01

because there are people who say he

wants to be the next leader of the

0:35:010:35:05

party and wants to be prime

minister, and I'm not sure that is

0:35:050:35:07

the case. If you look at the way he

behaved that the committee this

0:35:070:35:11

week, and that previous ones, he has

not got the full grasp of the

0:35:110:35:15

detail. People asking questions he

should know the answer to, and he

0:35:150:35:19

doesn't. I don't feel like that is

because he's not capable, I think it

0:35:190:35:23

is because he's coasting. I think he

is grateful to be in the position he

0:35:230:35:27

is in, and I think he enjoys it, but

I don't get the impression he thinks

0:35:270:35:31

he's going to be the next prime

minister. What could

0:35:310:35:44

happen, and what may happen, is that

he could end up being the interim

0:35:460:35:49

and handing over to someone you from

annual intake at some point later.

0:35:490:35:52

That would only be the case, I

think, if Mrs May went in the near

0:35:520:35:55

future.

If there were some crisis.

What do you make of his performance

0:35:550:35:57

now?

I agree that he doesn't look

very hungry for it. I think he has

0:35:570:36:08

wisdom. I think he has gravitas. He

looks stable coming has a sense of

0:36:080:36:13

humour and a lot of qualities, but

he doesn't look to me like he is

0:36:130:36:18

going for it.

I think the move of

Ollie Robinson, the senior civil

0:36:180:36:21

servant with whom you didn't get on

in the Brexit Department, his move

0:36:210:36:25

to the Cabinet office next to the

Prime Minister, I think power has

0:36:250:36:30

moved that way as well. Damian

Green, Michael, will he survive?

0:36:300:36:36

Should he? What do you make of this

business?

I don't know the will, but

0:36:360:36:41

I think he should. David Davis said

he will resign.

I think he rode back

0:36:410:36:50

on that quite quickly.

Neil Lewis,

the police officer who gave the

0:36:500:36:58

interview to the BBC last week, I

was disturbed that the BBC broadcast

0:36:580:37:02

this interview. We have heard from

Cressida Dick on the programme

0:37:020:37:05

saying she thought it was

disgraceful and there may be grounds

0:37:050:37:10

for a prosecution. It is worth

remembering that the alleged

0:37:100:37:16

information was gathered by the

police during a raid in which they

0:37:160:37:20

used anti-terrorist powers

investigating a leak. They happened

0:37:200:37:23

to attack, as it were, a member of

the Parliament, but it could have

0:37:230:37:29

been in this building on any of the

computers here.

There was outrage in

0:37:290:37:34

Parliament.

There should have been

outrage in the BBC. For the BBC then

0:37:340:37:39

to broadcast this fellow's interview

in order just to make trouble for a

0:37:390:37:44

Government minister...

But this is

news. The BBC is just the messenger.

0:37:440:37:53

It was illegitimate news because it

was gathered in a fishing expedition

0:37:530:37:56

in Ammancomputer. -- a man's

computer. There is an issue of some

0:37:560:38:04

policemen behaving as this if -- as

if this were a police state.

I get

0:38:040:38:13

the point Michael is making about

evidence gathered in a particular

0:38:130:38:20

operation suddenly, years later,

comes out in an area...

I agree with

0:38:200:38:26

that.

I agree with that completely.

Here is the parallel: I was Home

0:38:260:38:36

Secretary and came in just after

they got that information. It was

0:38:360:38:39

passed by a civil servant who

disgracefully took home office

0:38:390:38:43

documents and pass them over to the

opposition front bench. I'm not

0:38:430:38:49

criticising Damian Green and David

Davis for taking that.

What do you

0:38:490:38:53

make of the role of the police?

You're criticising the BBC for

0:38:530:39:02

taking a piece of news.

I am more

interested in your view as a former

0:39:020:39:06

Home Secretary.

Michael is right, it

was disgraceful, and Cressida Dick

0:39:060:39:12

was absolutely right to condemn it.

I have a deep affection for the

0:39:120:39:17

British police, and how they have

always operated. As Michael says,

0:39:170:39:21

this takes us too much down the

police state line.

Cake, in the

0:39:210:39:27

final few seconds, we have been

saying the prime minister's plane is

0:39:270:39:30

on the runway ready to go. What is

the latest in your view? Will she

0:39:300:39:34

make it in time for Brussels

breakfast? A Brexit breakfast?

We

0:39:340:39:42

are poised to get on the Eurostar in

the morning.

It will be too late by

0:39:420:39:46

then. Remit but we will be there in

time to catch the press conference,

0:39:460:39:50

if there is one. The thinking at the

moment is possibly that she may go

0:39:500:39:54

early, and there might be a later

statement if she does go. Fingers

0:39:540:39:57

crossed.

Lets hope they have paid

the RAF bill, or she won't be

0:39:570:40:06

leaving.

Like the Chancellor.

0:40:060:40:08

Some unkind soul once said politics

was showbiz for ugly people.

0:40:080:40:10

But I think that

unfair to ugly folks.

0:40:100:40:12

It's also demonstrably untrue -

just look at these two

0:40:120:40:15

posturing political peacocks.

0:40:150:40:16

Handsome as the day is long.

0:40:160:40:19

And watching them in action can

sometimes make the day feel really,

0:40:190:40:22

really long indeed.

0:40:220:40:25

But most politicians have been

guilty of posturing at some

0:40:250:40:28

stage in their careers,

which is why we're putting posturing

0:40:280:40:30

in tonight's Spotlight.

0:40:300:40:37

The winner of the Radio 1 Teen Award

for Best TV Show is...

0:40:400:40:47

Good news for the BBC

this week as Towie star

0:40:470:40:49

Gemma Collins backed down

from threatening to sue

0:40:490:40:51

the corporation over her dramatic

exit, stage

0:40:510:40:53

centre, at the Teen Awards.

0:40:530:40:58

But as one celebrity

falls off the runway,

0:40:580:41:00

another falls onto it.

0:41:000:41:02

Jeremy Corbyn struck a pose

for GQ magazine this

0:41:020:41:04

week.

0:41:040:41:05

But did the camera love Jezza

as much as his voter base?

0:41:050:41:08

The shoot itself was quite tortuous.

0:41:080:41:10

It was as difficult

as shooting any Hollywood

0:41:100:41:12

celebrity, actually.

0:41:120:41:15

Really?

0:41:150:41:17

It seems, then, that

everyone has had

0:41:170:41:18

enough of PR stunts.

0:41:180:41:20

After all, Emmanuel Macron...

0:41:200:41:24

Not all babies want to be kissed.

0:41:240:41:26

Meanwhile, Labour MP

John Healey says politicians

0:41:260:41:29

should stop talking the talk and get

back to the job in hand.

0:41:290:41:34

100 more homeless children for every

Conservative press release.

0:41:340:41:36

And what's needed now

is action to deal

0:41:360:41:39

with the root causes of this

rising homelessness,

0:41:390:41:41

not more warm words.

0:41:410:41:48

And what of Donald Trump's

posturing in the Middle East?

0:41:480:41:51

The US President's

decision to recognise

0:41:510:41:53

Jerusalem as the Israeli capital

this week provoked a diplomatic

0:41:530:41:55

storm.

0:41:550:41:59

This decision by President Trump

is clearly one of the most

0:41:590:42:02

irresponsible decisions

taken by American

0:42:020:42:04

Presidents vis-a-vis the

0:42:040:42:05

region and the chances of peace.

0:42:050:42:11

Given his track record on calming

international disputes, we shouldn't

0:42:110:42:14

have too much to worry about.

0:42:140:42:16

Very sad, this is nothing like me.

0:42:160:42:18

They have made me

into a giant terracotta

0:42:180:42:20

novelty candle.

0:42:200:42:21

That's a disgrace.

0:42:210:42:24

Impressionist Jon Culshaw knows

a thing or two about political

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posturing.

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But is there just too

much of it about?

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# We'll still have fun!#.

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John Culshaw joins us. Welcome back

to the programme. It has been too

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long. Let's be honest, political

posturing is a dream for you because

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it emphasises and builds everything

up, doesn't it?

It gives us more

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clues. Armando Iannucci said that

reality outperforms comedy in many

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instances, but it never fazes the

comedy writers. It just empowers

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them even more. It is so interesting

watching the bluster of Donald

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Trump, because he seems... Well, he

is clearly so miscast and out of his

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depth. The way he gets himself out

of things, just with plaster, and if

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at any stage she gets founder, fake

news, that's terrible, get it out of

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the. If you would reported

accurately...

It is always our

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fault! When is saying things like,

this is going to be so great, he is

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looking for the ward often.

I can't

believe how great it is, it will be

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so fantastic so I will say it is

going to be great again until I

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found that, I found it, I forgot it.

Is that posturing, though?

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Posturing, to me, is someone trying

to be something they're not, and

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that seems to me to be entirely what

he is.

It is interesting with Trump.

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In front of audiences, you can only

do two or three jokes. State visit,

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I'm going to Stratford-upon-Avon,

the birthplace of William Shatner,

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to witness the wedding of Prince

Harry and Angela Merkel, is going to

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be beautiful. You can have a few

jokes and then the audience go, will

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you stop that now, please?

Is Mrs

May is involved in posturing?

Very

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controlled, clenched, cautious and

uneasy, scripted, and Deborah

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Stevenson does a good impression of

her too. That catch in the back of

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the voice, the fear of tripping up

at any moment.

Jeremy Corbyn, he has

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never been thought the posture, but

the GQ magazine cover was a kind of

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posture.

His form of posturing is

often to be much quieter, to be

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sitting back, to be nodding rather

like an ornament on the parcel shelf

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of a Morris Minor, in this way, very

laid-back, controlled and

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understated. If you want to know my

policy statement, it will be made

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available on Betamax and as a mix

tape will stop

not an eight track?

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We will look into that and reach

that advanced stage in due course,

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Andrew.

I suppose Trump overwhelms

everything. It is a character than

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not even Central Casting could have

invented.

Tom Jamieson, one of the

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Dead Ringers writers came up with

the joke that sums up the feeling:

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We are working our way through the

worst crisis in American history

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since the 110 minutes ago. And so it

goes on. Than the crisis ten minutes

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ago.

Does the news cycle encourage

posturing, if you want to break

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through?

No, I think here is another

reason for a Brexit. British

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politicians on the whole do not

posture, and politicians on the

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continent do. All this stuff about

the great European vision about

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where they were going to arrive in

20 years, this is one of the

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reasons...

Years off-again!

We're

culturally completely different. --

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he is off again.

Michael, if you go

too far, becomes Dale Winton. Keep

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it just here, just right.

What are

you up to?

I have voiced an audio

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book called the beautiful poetry of

Donald Trump, which pulls together

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his quotes into problems. They form

algorithms bizarre nonsense.

Is Dead

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Ring is coming back?

Were recorded a

special on Saturday.

Thank you for

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being here.

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That's your lot for tonight, folks.

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But not for us.

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Inspired by the runaway success

of Vladimir Putin's new calendar

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and Jezza's striking makeover

on the cover of GQ,

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we're off to our very

own photo shoot at Lou Lou's,

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where the DG has promised to whip

out his old Box Brownie and give us

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the full Annie Leibovitz.

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Choo Choo plans to channel his inner

Putin by stripping to the waist

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and pretending to shovel coal

into the engine pulling the London

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to Glasgow night sleeper.

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I haven't the heart to tell him

it was electrified years ago.

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And Sad Man will pose in his best

Samuel Pepys outfit as he writes

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Volume 48 of his memoirs

with his favourite quill pen.

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He's very high tech, y'know.

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Nighty-night -

don't let Arlene bite.

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#

All I want for Christmas is...

Leaving the European Union as a

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whole.

# I don't want a lot of Christmas

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# There is just one thing I need

# I don't care about the presence

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# I don't need the Christmas tree

#...

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# All I want for Christmas is you #.

Northern Ireland must leave the

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European Union on the same terms as

the rest of the United Kingdom.

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Andrew Neil reviews the political week with Michael Portillo and Alan Johnson. Plus there is a film looking back over the headlines from Kate McCann, Tim Shipman looks at political chaos, while Jon Culshaw examines posturing in the spotlight section.