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Tonight on This Week,
we attempt to answer
all the big questions.
Like, where has all
the chicken gone?
Deep fat fryer Jane Moore
rounds up a finger-licking
good political week.
This chicken looks so yummy.
And unlike KFC, these guys
have actually got some.
George "Pluck Pluck" Galloway
ruffles a few feathers and looks
forward to a Jezza foreign policy.
Labour shouldn't clip
their diplomatic wings by chickening
out on a hard Brexit.
And cocky comedian Geoff Norcott
thinks we've all gone
mother clucking crazy.
Michael and Liz, you boneless dips.
Get your family
buckets to the ready.
This Week's come home to roost.
Welcome to This Week.
And at a time when there has been
much in the public prints about dear
Jezza's innocent dealings
with a Czech spy masquerading
as a diplomat - who knew that's
what these fiendish commies got up
to during the Cold War -
I think it only fair to fess up
and admit that I too was one
of their useless idiots.
Mr Corbyn was given
the code name Agent Cob.
My secret moniker was Agent Nob.
But there you are.
They said it suited me.
As they plied me with unlimited
Blue Nun I freely revealed
the scheduled departure of the 9.45
from Chipping Sudbury to Paddington.
9.45, as it happens.
"When is the ten O'Clock
News", they demanded.
"Ten O'Clock", I blurted out.
"Does anyone watch This Week",
they wanted to know.
I burst out laughing.
"No, we thought not",
said my handlers.
Thus did I pass on some of our most
vital secrets to our sworn enemies.
And, unlike the saintly
Jezza, who was not paid
to tell them anything
because even if he was minded to,
which he wasn't, he knew nothing
worth paying for anyway,
I was of a more materialistic bent.
Yes, I betrayed our nation
for a year's supply of Blue Nun
vodka and a huge tin of caviar
for Molly the Dog.
She likes her Russian
treats, you know.
And when you do late night TV
on the BBC you need to find some way
to supplement your pittance
of an income.
Speaking of those you'd
pay just to shut up,
I'm joined on the sofa by two folks
so out of the loop that even
Communist diplomats with huge
expense accounts couldn't be
bothered to give them
them the time of day,
even over a cup of tea
in a greasy spoon.
I speak of course Liz
and Michael #choochoo Portillo.
Welcome, both. Your moment of the
The relevant select
committee, according its
Conservatives, rejected the
government's nomination for the new
chairman of the Charity Commission.
I think Charity is a pretty serious
subject nowadays. We can see a
couple disintegrating before our
eyes. There is also another issue
that some charities have
unacceptable agendas at the
masquerade as charities and need to
be unmasked. In other words, this is
a serious business. The baroness has
been rejected not least because she
has no experience of regulation or
charities. It illustrates that the
government has no idea where its
interests lie and cannot understand
its own priorities.
Do we know if
the government is going ahead with
The government has
said that, but time will tell.
have charities been more in the
spotlight, and never has it been
more important to get the proper
regulator in the charities
commission. Liz, your moment.
failure of the UN Security Council
tonight to agree a ceasefire in
Syria, despite the latest
unimaginable horror in Eastern
Ghouta. Russia is clearly, again,
blocking the resolution, despite
some serious amendments. And it was
very interesting tonight that the
French ambassador said if a
resolution is not agreed it will be
a devastating blow to confidence in
the Security Council, and possibly
even the death knell of the UN. A
serious and severe warning, and we
have to make sure that isn't right.
That is very big news. Very well.
Two very good moments. One domestic,
one foreign. That is how balanced we
Now, it's rarer than a KFC chicken
these days but yesterday the leader
of the Opposition used PMQs to quiz
Theresa May about about Brexit.
You always get the impression our
Jezza doesn't really give
a monkey's about it.
He's more a Stop the War,
unless Russia, Syria
or Hezbollah started
it, kinda guy.
And though Tory dither,
drift and indecision about Brexit
should be fertile ground for any
Opposition to exploit, well,
he might not be entirely simpatico
with the pro-EU mainstream
of his own party.
So best give it a miss.
Which raises an
What would foreign policy be under
a Corbyn government?
Despite all the daily party
there's been a pretty consistent
bipartisanship since WW2.
pro-Commonwealth, pro-free trade,
until recently, pro-EU,
though that road's often been more
rocky for both sides.
I think we can be sure a Corbyn
government would break that
foreign policy consensus.
Here's George Galloway
with his take of the week.
People accuse Jeremy Corbyn
of playing games over Brexit,
but with a party deeply divided over
the issue, he keeps his cards close
to his chest, for good reason.
Nobody can achieve a Brexit
which pleases everyone,
so why not keep a poker face whilst
Theresa May continues to play
a terrible hand over in Brussels?
Reports this morning that Corbyn
intends to use a speech on Monday
to show more of his hand
on Brexit worries me.
Providing Corbyn and the Labour
Party can continue prevaricating,
they can emerge unscathed
from the Brexit battle ground.
By contrast, whatever Mrs May
achieves will create interminable
conflict within the Conservative
party, and could be checkmate
for her pathetic premiership.
Never interrupt your enemy,
Jeremy, whilst they are
busy making a mistake.
Speculation that the speech
is going to herald a softer line
on Brexit worries me further.
Corbyn has an unlikely
ally in Jacob Rees Mogg.
If the European research group's
proposals are accepted
by the Government, we could make
a clean break from the
European Union, which is, I believe,
what Jeremy Corbyn really wants,
or ought to.
A hard Brexit means a realignment
of the stars, a once-in-a-lifetime
opportunity for Corbyn
to revolutionise Britain's relations
with the rest of the world.
Unshackled from the little
leagues on the Continent,
Corbyn could monopolise
on his new-found freedom,
realising his lifelong ambition
of engagement with his allies
in Latin America and Africa,
through the mechanism of the Brics,
fast-growing newly industrialised
countries like China,
India and South Africa.
As part of a geopolitical alignment
suited to his worldview,
Mr Corbyn could create
a new socialist pax Britannica.
Instead of isolating
so-called rogue states,
Corbyn could engage with them.
Only through dialogue can
we hope to influence
the behaviour of others.
Mr Corbyn could pivot Britain
towards trading opportunities
with parts of the world's economy
that are on the up.
Mr Corbyn could also score points
with the Labour grassroots
by eliminating two unpopular,
indeed reprehensible, partnerships.
One, with the murderous Saudi
regime, the other as poodle
to Donald Trump's alt-right
What's more, with the Trump
presidency on thin ice,
and Bernie Sanders in the ascendant,
Jeremy Corbyn is the only British
politician who could make that
even more special.
He could transform it from one that
simply enables colonial excess
into a true transatlantic
partnership of people,
not just corporations.
Hard Brexit means everyone
is a winner, Jeremy,
so don't go soft on me now.
And fresh from his success,
George Galloway joins us now.
Well come back to the programme.
If Mr Corbyn took a hard
Brexit line, could he carry his
No. People like Liz and many
others, more than 4%, maybe 74%,
would be hostile to that. That's why
I think he has been carefully
playing this, and he ought to
continue that, because that doesn't
then burst open the Labour Party's
divisions. And as I said, quoting
Napoleon, never interrupt your enemy
while he is busy making a mistake.
John McDonnell, Shadow Chancellor,
says Labour policy on Brexit is
evolving. Do you think it is
evolving more in your direction?
Yes, I do. And I think you will see
more next week, particularly around
the customs union, and I hope it
goes further still, around the
single market. I think the reason
why is that the leadership is
listening not just to party members,
Labour voters and the trade unions,
but understanding that I'm afraid a
hard Brexit would simply finish the
job that Thatcher began on our
manufacturing industries in the
Midlands and the North, and
undermine workers' rights and
environmental standards, all of
which are very important for the
future of our economy. And the very
strong argument that you cannot be
an anti-austerity party if you are
out of the single market and the
customs union and our economy takes
If we go into the next
election and the dichotomy is that
we are the Tories that withdrew from
the European Union and they are
Labour that tried to betray it, that
is a disaster for Labour. 70% of
Labour held constituencies voted to
leave in the referendum. And if
Labour can be fixed as the stab in
the back party, the party that
betrayed the decision the British
people made in the wraparound, that
would be an electoral catastrophe.
There will be parts of London where
it would be of benefit, but in the
north, in the post-industrial
wastelands of the Thatcher era, it
would be a complete catastrophe.
George is right that Labour should
not interrupt their enemies while
they are making mistakes. A couple
of weeks ago I said I thought Corbyn
would not want to be Prime Minister
at this moment and I was howled
down, not least by you, but I think
George is saying the same thing, let
the Tories get on and get to Brexit
of whatever form and then the Labour
Party is not responsible for what
has happened. I don't believe there
will be a hard Brexit because I
think the European Union and
Britain, neither will want to impose
tariffs upon the other. But I
certainly think that Labour's best
interests, Corbyn's in particular,
are to allow the Tories to get on
with this for the next two years, to
be hopelessly divided about it, and
to pick up the settled consequences,
What about George's
wider vision of a Corbyn foreign
policy, what it could be like? What
he outlined, by and large, it has
the benefit of being what Mr Corbyn
believes. It may be right or wrong
but it is what he believes, isn't
I don't think that we should be
an anti-West, anti-American,
anti-Europe, isolationist party.
That is your leader's position.
don't be -- believe you can build
social democracy, let alone
socialism, in one country if you
don't understand that our economy is
global, climate change, terrorism,
migration, can only be dealt with if
you play a strong role in the
international, rules -based
institutions we set up.
arguing just for a different role.
And a very special relationship with
the United States, and the
great-grandson of the only woman in
the 19th century later emigrated
from the United States to Dundee.
You have seen Dundee. There is
nothing anti-American about me. I
want Corbyn and samplers to make a
really special relationship, one
involving people and not just
corporations. -- Bernie Sanders. Of
course, corporations do have their
You need to get him into the
The current polls are
showing him... If he is still alive,
of course. But that is true of all
I thought this part of George's film
should be shown as a Conservative
party political broadcast, unveiling
for the Corbyn foreign policy would
be, with one foot note, if I may,
George. You mentioned Brics, and the
capital R stands for Russia. But you
did not want to mention that the
Russian military are killing off
large numbers of civilians in Syria
at the moment. The regimes you would
like to put your arm around, China
you mentioned, with massive numbers
of death penalties every year, the
highest number of death penalties.
Even more than the United States.
Mao Tse at...
For your information,
Britain is trying very hard to trade
with China, and outside of the EU,
will be in a better position to do
But you socialists have more in
common with the Chinese than with
One has to trade with all
kinds of countries, with the
exception of Saudi Arabia, I would
be in favour of trading with them,
and to trade with them, you have to
have good relations. All the
countries, 25 countries we have
sanctions against at the moment, 18
of which we have invaded in the
Since you left Russia out of
your little them, would you like to
say what you feel about
say what you feel about Russia's
role in Syria?
It is cold outside,
and if it is warm indoors it is
because of Russian gas. Russia is an
important trading partner and can be
still more important.
still more important.
regimes should be let off? If they
Murderous regimes with
oil, you always little.
getting Bernie Sanders in the White
House is a bit of a stretch, and it
would mean turning our back on our
allies, embracing Russia and Iran -
could you really sell that to the
I'm asking the country to
embrace the world, to leave the EU's
fading, failing economies, with all
the stresses and strains in the EU,
it's falling apart in front of our
eyes, and embrace instead a world
where economies are rising.
trouble is, George, you sound no
different from Jacob Rees Mogg.
Labour Party members and voters just
won't buy that. If what we end up
having is exactly the same policy
that Jason breach -- Jacob Rees Mogg
has suggested. It's not right for
the country and it is not what party
members or members want. -- what
Labour Party members want.
not isolationism. It is leaving the
European Union and joining the
world. If Jacob Rees Mogg says the
same thing, well, even a stopped
clock is right twice a day, and he
is right on that if that is what
A final question: If Mr
Corbyn was to become prime minister,
how likely do you think is he to go
in the direction of foreign policy
that you have outlined? Does he have
the inclination to be that bold, or
is he likely to be much more
He's not as bold as one
would have thought he would be. He
is under a lot of pressure inside
the parliamentary Labour Party. He
doesn't have two dozen people among
his MPs to actual... Actually agree
with them. Even now, the Blairites
are there in huge numbers in the
PLP. He is cautious and serene, Zen
like, you might say. I don't think
if he became prime minister he would
be knocking over the apple carts,
kicking over the money changers'
tables and so one, but he would be a
steady, slow, but steady progress in
the direction that I have been
George Galloway, thank
It's late, Saint Michael
of Assisi late.
Yes, the blessed Govey,
patron saint of small furry things
at the Department of Environment,
thinks it's "unkind" to keep
dumb animals cooped-up
indoors all the time.
He wants them to be able
to frolic more outside.
But politicians shouldn't
get too excited.
Even the Govester's compassion
for dumb animals has its limits.
So no gambolling on College
Green for Tory MPs.
They'll remain locked
in their Westminster
crates for the time being.
At least until the Maybot can
concoct a Brexit policy around
which they can rally.
So they could be in
captivity for some time.
Someone who's never followed
the herd is Geoff Norcott.
Indeed he's a phenomenon that's
rarer on BBC Radio 4
than Hezbollah at a Barmitzvah.
A comedian who isn't just funny -
that's rare enough
on radio these days -
but is also right of centre,
which is not just
rare but unheard of.
Bonkers, I know.
So, rather appropriately,
he'll be asking if politics
has gone "bonkers".
And if you feel compelled to bleat,
moo or cluck a few mindless
comments onto the Tweeter,
the Fleecebook, or the Snapnumpty,
well, feel free, be my guest, pull
up a bollard, sit down and tap away.
But be aware that, unlike
the Maybot, I do finish my box sets.
So I'll never get round to
seeing your drivelling.
It's been a week of spy
plots and sci-fi movies.
Of James Bond and Mad Max.
Of Cold War pasts
and dystopian futures.
Yes, all of that, and the great
chicken furore of 2018.
So, from deep in the deep-fat
fryer, here's Jane Moore
with her roundup of the week.
Here at This Week, we know that
Andrew simply won't get into that
presenter's chair without first
fuelling up with a bargain bucket
and a couple of gallons of Blue Nun.
So, when I heard there was a chicken
shortage at KFC, I thought I'd
better take matters
into my own hands.
Let's get to work.
# Everybody's heard
about the bird...#.
Yes, an order for the
European research group?
Yes, OK, hang on a minute.
62 servings of wings, yeah.
for the UK post Brexit, OK.
UK free to start trade negotiations
during the transition period.
OK, yeah, yeah.
Thanks a lot, give me 20 minutes.
A letter from Jacob Rees
Mogg's agitators gave
Theresa May something
rather tough to chew on.
Many feathers have been ruffled
as the squawking over Brexit
continues, but David Davis confused
to acknowledge the concerns of
Remainers over the potential
impact of leaving the EU.
They fear that Brexit
could lead to an
Anglo-Saxon race to the bottom,
with Britain plunged into a Mad
Max-style world borrowed
from dystopian fiction.
These fears about a race
to the bottom are based on nothing.
Whilst Damian Green stuck his beak
in to call on the Government to
publish any Brexit
If analysis is being produced,
then publish it, and
frankly, there will be a big
political debate about it, and let's
have the argument in public.
That's what democracies do.
Brexiteer foxes aside,
Theresa May toured TV studios
to defend her premiership, and to
point out that when it comes to
running the country, she's still got
some eggs in her basket.
I'm doing a job, and I'm
going to jolly well get
on and do it.
And what drives me in doing
it is actually not what's
written but what people out
there want the Government to do.
But the crowing didn't
last long, feathers
flying yet again over
university tuition fees.
Amidst a lot of clucking
from certain quarters, the
PM ruled out scrapping
Basically, you've got out
there people who will benefit
from going to university
and those who don't.
And I think it's right that those
who benefit should make a
The crisis is involving
Oxfam and Save The
Children deepened yesterday as yet
more allegations emerged of sexually
by charity workers and bosses.
Former chief executive
of Save The Children Justin Forsyth
is the latest to face accusations
on his conduct.
MPs heard evidence on Tuesday.
I repeat Oxfam's broader apology,
and my personal apology.
I am sorry, we are sorry,
for the damage that
Oxfam has done, both
the people of Haiti, but also
to a wider efforts for aid and
development by possibly
undermining public support.
On the war path this week
was Jeremy Corbyn, who in his
speech to the EEF, seized
the opportunity to roast the banks.
We will take decisions and decisive
action to make finance the servant
of industry, not the masters of all.
And it wasn't just the financial
institutions he was clucked
Responding to accusations
that he met with spies during the
Cold War, he accused
the media of foul play.
Publishing these ridiculous
smears which have
been refuted by Czech officials
shows just how worried the media
bosses are by the prospect
of a Labour Government.
They are right to be.
The electorate will be
the judge of that.
Oh, it's you!
Stories where Jeremy Corbyn isn't
accused of fraternising with a
dodgy regime seem scarcer
than hen's teeth these
days, but the Leader
the Opposition did a valiant attempt
to avert attention from himself at
PMQs by focusing on Brexit instead.
The Foreign Secretary recently made
a speech about Brexit, and he found
time to mention carrots,
spam, V signs, stag
parties and a plague
Not one mention of Northern
Ireland in his speech.
But in her response,
the Prime Minister
couldn't resist the urge
to peck at the open wound.
Can I congratulate the Right
because normally he stands up every
week and asks me to sign a
blank cheque, and I know he likes
Czechs, but really...
In an astonishing display
of Chicken Little syndrome,
Tory MPs read press reports
and piled into double-O Corbyn to
accuse him of, in the words of
Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson,
being a traitor.
Can I have some sauce, please?
MP Ben Bradley's neck was wrung
by Corbyn after he posted
a tweet accusing the Leader
of the Opposition of selling British
secrets to Communist spies.
Right, I better get
Andrew's order together.
We've run out of chicken.
Jane assures me that the chicken
from Other Side Fried
at Peckham Levels, that I didn't get
to taste, was delicious.
- G8 it all. Michael, this whole
Corbyn is a spiced up, had it
rebound badly on the Tories and the
Tory press in the end?
I don't think
so. I think it would be quite
difficult to elect as our Prime
Minister someone who was consorting
with the IRA, with Palestinian
It didn't play last
No effort was made last
time because the Government thought
it would win effortlessly so no real
effort was invested.
prime-time interviews, including one
I did where Mr Corbyn was asked
rigorously about his past
associations with the IRA, and it
didn't seem to have traction, even
in the middle of an election with a
terrorist campaign which was
River, no one thought
Labour would win the election, which
of course they borrow right to
assume, -- remember, no one
Haven't the Tories
overplayed their hand? We know he
has never been a fan of Western
foreign policy. He has been accused
of being too cosy with the enemies
of the West, but that is nothing to
do with the trade in the country
being a traitor.
No, but I'm afraid
it's absolutely enough to lose a
minister said he has betrayed the
The idea that he had any
state secrets was ridiculous, and
that he would be motivated by money
to sell them is even more
That is what I mean by
ever playing their hand.
Why do you
think these agents were interested
in talking to Jeremy Corbyn?
they had to justify their salary to
their Czech masters.
They thought it
was important to infiltrate the
Labour Party, which was the
opposition party and might one day
become the Government party.
Except we have no evidence of any of
Michael is right to say our
foreign policy and security policy
will come under scrutiny at the
general election. But by going on
this ridiculous claim, I think
Corbyn is right it was a smear on
him and it has backfired.
If he were
right, he would offer himself for TV
interviews, allowing himself to be
grilled about this file.
they did not have a file, Michael.
He appears and says, I am
threatening the Tory press, if I
become Prime Minister I will gag it
in some way. That does not endear
If Mr Corbyn is watching and he
is up for an interview, you know
where we are. It is 20 months since
the referendum, almost a year since
Article 50 was triggered, and
Cabinet ministers spent almost all
day today still trying to decide on
some of the most basic negotiating
positions of this country. Isn't
It is, but the
clock is running not only for us but
also for the European Union.
they have decided their negotiating
They may have, but they
have not decided the outcome. I
absolutely do not believe there will
be a hard Brexit. I do not believe
that the end of this will be the
imposition of tariffs by the
European Union on Britain and by
Britain on the European Union. So
something else is going to happen.
That may be true, but by any of that
happen, the Europeans need to know
our negotiating position. Mrs May
seems to be vacillating on this. We
still don't know. The word is that
the meeting broke up in Chequers
tonight the couple of hours ago. The
big divide seems to be between those
who want to diverged, if and when we
leave, from European regulations,
and those who think to get access to
all the markets we have two stay
roughly aligned, as close as we can.
I am told the divergences got the
better of the argument but there was
given steak on both sides. Is that
good or bad?
Bad. I would like us to
stay as close as possible. Whether
she got agreement amongst her
Cabinet, the real battle will be on
her backbenchers. We heard this week
that the customs and trade bill is
now not going to come to Parliament
until after the May elections. There
has been an amendment put down by
Anna Soubry and Kenneth Clarke
calling for us to remain in the
customs union, and I think Labour
will back that. She has got the
people who voted Remain, Anna
Soubry, Nicky Morgan, and then she
has Jacob Rees-Mogg and that group
who want us to stop any kind of
negotiation by March the 20th -- by
March 2019. So we would fall out on
WTO rules. She has to make a choice.
Maybe the reason there will not be a
hard Brexit is because there will
not be a majority in parliament for
Absolutely right. There isn't.
think that is coincidentally true
but it is not the reason there will
not be a hard Brexit. It is
unimaginable that the European Union
and Britain will direct tariffs when
around the rest of the world we are
moving in a different direction,
with the exception of the United
States. We are globalising and we
would find ourselves entirely out of
step with the global trend.
tuition fees, the Prime Minister
came in this week. What is the sense
in entering a bidding war with
politics on this, a subject she
knows she cannot win?
She can't win,
but the reason this has gone badly
wrong is that this is the most
non-Conservative policy ever
invented. When you are selling a
rusty bicycle or a Rolls-Royce, they
cost the same amount of money. A
lousy degree in a lousy university
and a top degree in a top university
have all been priced the same. So
the student has no power. How can a
Conservative Party have invented
such a daft, crazy communist system?
I thought Labour invented it?
pushed it up to 9000.
Winston Churchill once said,
"A politician needs the ability
to foretell what is going to happen,
and the ability afterwards
to explain why it didn't happen".
Even by recent standards,
it's been quite a week.
David Davis invoking the spirit
of the Thunderdome to assure us
Brexit won't be as bad as Mad Max.
So that's all right then.
An earthquake in Swansea.
Not a sentence you thought
you'd ever hear.
And, rather than taking guns off
killers, in the wake of yet
another school shooting,
the President of the United States
has said that arming teachers
could be the answer.
Just as well that wasn't the policy
when Mrs MacGregor was teaching us
maths in the lower fourth.
She was already a dab
hand at whacking your
knuckles with a ruler.
Who knows what she might have
done with a Colt 45?
So has the world gone bonkers?
That's why we're putting
bonkers in the spotlight.
Is it just me,
or has the world gone crazy?
KFC plunged fast food lovers
into despair after its chicken
shortage led to consumer chaos.
I've had to go to Burger King.
Surely there's enough chicken.
But was it just a little bit
bonkers to see the Queen
at London Fashion Week?
Her Maj noted the conditions
were rather hard underfoot.
Although the course seemed
And just how crazy do you have to be
to give birth to your child on air.
As US radio presenter
Cassidy Proctor did this week.
She even got the audience
to name her newborn.
Meanwhile, Theresa May says her life
is so bonkers she can't even find
the time to finish a box set.
I never get to the end of a box set.
For Ukip at least, another leader
down, the shambles is nothing new.
I'm constantly being told
by political experts that Ukip
is finished and that nobody
really cares any more,
nobody knows what its purpose is.
And what of serious politics?
Is it bonkers that we have to look
to grime musician Stormzy to hold
the Prime Minister to account?
The artist took a swipe
at Theresa May at the Brits last
night over her handling
of the Grenfell Tower tragedy.
Yo, Theresa May, where's
the money for Grenfell?
What, you thought we just
forgot about Grenfell?
And you got the cheek
to call us savages...
Comedian Geoff Norcott thinks times
like these call for a cool head.
But can anyone make
sense of this madness?
And Geoff Norcott is with us now.
Welcome to the programme. KFC runs
out of chicken, Trump wants to armed
teachers. We are going bonkers.
jumped the shark this week. And that
clip with Stormzy. There was a
headline that said Theresa May hits
back at Stormzy. For one second I
thought she had done it in the form
of rap. I could imagine her with
Michael Gove doing beatbox. It is a
symptom of the times we are living
What a terrifying image!
it slightly bonkers that she
responded to Stormzy?
All this week
things like that have been
happening, with Corbyn warning the
press he is not a rabid
revolutionary, he threatened to
control the free press. A great way
of coming back against your critics.
There were lots of things Corbyn
said in that video which were fair
but what was odd was the intensity
in his eyes. For a pacifist, he
looked like he wanted to punch
someone, ready to come out swinging.
Henry Bolton, the former Ukip, there
has to be a point, when you are
sitting on the sofa on TV and the
woman half your age is a racist, you
have to think I have not made prior
decisions. I was in the running to
be leader of the party and here I
What is it that is making us
Elections, pressure. Buying
back from 2014, 15, these have been
unexpected results which puts the
pressure on politicians. There is no
comfort zone any more. Social media,
we could all be a hashtag by the
time we get back to the green room.
Or dressed as a chicken.
And pressure will dismiss stakes.
When people are under pressure, they
shoot from the hip.
Don't you think
it is just more exposed? We did not
know what was going on with
politicians 24-7 years ago.
right about the elections but you
are really saying lack of
leadership. People are trying to
react to what others have ready
decided. You have seen that with
Trump, the response to the gum
thing, dependent on the gun lobby.
He does not have a view of his own.
It is not just the elections, but
the results. With Trump winning in
America, Mrs May failing to get a
decent majority, Macron coming from
nowhere to win in France, Mrs Merkel
struggling to put together a
coalition. All of the results have
really been a kick in the teeth.
Nobody can get their feet under the
table. When you think back to the
Blair eight years, how long has it
been since people could win an
election and be an MP for five years
and get on with the job? You have
five minutes before you are getting
hounded on Twitter constantly. There
is a general tribalism which is
distorting. I had a clip about
Corbyn go viral this week. On my
Facebook page, I had people
reviewing me off the back of it. 25
of the reviews were 5-star, and ten
of them were ones star, and nothing
in the middle. I have always thought
I was a solid 3.7. It is almost a
symptom of the age, that the
dialogue and political discourse is
dominated by the fringe ends.
calm, reasonable, building
consensus, bringing people together
just doesn't cut it any more. It is
not fashionable in politics.
mainstream is discombobulated now.
It is. But as I say, there are not
people who know their own mind and
are prepared to tell us what they
think and where they want to take
us. They are just bobbing around on
a sea of public opinion which is
constantly changing and moving.
would suggest we will stay bonkers
for quite some time.
I would hope
so. For comedy, it is brilliant.
What are you up to?
I am on tour,
going round the country at the
moment. We have just extended into
the autumn. Although I voted
Conservative and I voted Leave, I
was in Leicester on Monday and there
were loads of Labour voters who came
and sat at the front.
Yes. All of the
Leavers sat at the back, for a sharp
exit! It is much better when you get
diversity in the audience. I am not
in this to create an echo chamber,
so I am glad. All lefties are
welcome. I don't mind anybody.
the audience know that you are right
I think they want to be
triggered, in a way. There was a
woman in Leicester who I kept
calling mad, and she said it was a
jest and class sensitive as well. I
had not heard class sensitive, so I
said, all right, treacle, I will
call you something else. But did not
go down well!
That's your lot for
tonight, but not for us.
We're off to Loulou's,
where it's Mad Max theme night.
Giving Michael yet another excuse
to dress up in his tight, studded,
ripped leather biker gear,
plus David Davis mask.
Leaving Liz free to mull on life
in a dystopian world of no hope,
no future, no purpose.
Come to think of it,
since the Brexit referendum
and Jezza's takeover of her party,
that's been pretty much what's
she been living through anyway.
So tonight will be just another
normal night for her.
But we leave you tonight
on a more serious note,
with the words of Andrew Pollock,
whose daughter, Meadow,
was shot dead in Florida last week
in yet another mass school shooting
of the sort which seems to have
become quotidian in the US
and to which American politicians
seem incapable of responding
with any action, just the ritual
thoughts and prayers for the victims
and their loved ones.
This is part of Mr Pollock's speech
at Donald Trump's "listening
session" last night.
We, as a country,
failed our children.
This shouldn't happen.
I'm very angry that this happened,
because it keeps happening.
9/11 happened once and
they fixed everything.
How many schools, how many
children have to get shot?
Because I want it to sink in,
not forget about this.
We can't forget about all
the school shootings.
It doesn't make sense.
It should have been one
school shooting and we
should have fixed it.
And I'm pissed.
Because my daughter I'm
not going to see again.
She's not here.
Never, ever will I see my kid.
I want that to sink in.
My beautiful daughter,
I'm never going to see again...