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Tonight on This Week,
we attempt to answer | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
all the big questions. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:09 | |
Like, where has all
the chicken gone? | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
No! | 0:00:11 | 0:00:16 | |
Deep fat fryer Jane Moore
rounds up a finger-licking | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
good political week. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
This chicken looks so yummy. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
And unlike KFC, these guys
have actually got some. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:29 | |
Sorry, mate. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:35 | |
George "Pluck Pluck" Galloway
ruffles a few feathers and looks | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
forward to a Jezza foreign policy. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
Labour shouldn't clip
their diplomatic wings by chickening | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
out on a hard Brexit. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:51 | |
And cocky comedian Geoff Norcott
thinks we've all gone | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
mother clucking crazy. | 0:00:54 | 0:01:00 | |
Michael and Liz, you boneless dips. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
Get your family
buckets to the ready. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
This Week's come home to roost. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:11 | |
Evenin' all. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:15 | |
Welcome to This Week. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
And at a time when there has been
much in the public prints about dear | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
Jezza's innocent dealings
with a Czech spy masquerading | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
as a diplomat - who knew that's
what these fiendish commies got up | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
to during the Cold War -
I think it only fair to fess up | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
and admit that I too was one
of their useless idiots. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
Mr Corbyn was given
the code name Agent Cob. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
My secret moniker was Agent Nob. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
Dunno why! | 0:01:41 | 0:01:42 | |
But there you are. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:43 | |
They said it suited me. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
As they plied me with unlimited
Blue Nun I freely revealed | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
the scheduled departure of the 9.45
from Chipping Sudbury to Paddington. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
9.45, as it happens. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
"When is the ten O'Clock
News", they demanded. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
"Ten O'Clock", I blurted out. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
"Does anyone watch This Week",
they wanted to know. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:04 | |
I burst out laughing. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
"No, we thought not",
said my handlers. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
Thus did I pass on some of our most
vital secrets to our sworn enemies. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
And, unlike the saintly
Jezza, who was not paid | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
to tell them anything
because even if he was minded to, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
which he wasn't, he knew nothing
worth paying for anyway, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
I was of a more materialistic bent. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
Yes, I betrayed our nation
for a year's supply of Blue Nun | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
vodka and a huge tin of caviar
for Molly the Dog. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
She likes her Russian
treats, you know. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
And when you do late night TV
on the BBC you need to find some way | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
to supplement your pittance
of an income. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
Speaking of those you'd
pay just to shut up, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
I'm joined on the sofa by two folks
so out of the loop that even | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
Communist diplomats with huge
expense accounts couldn't be | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
bothered to give them
them the time of day, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
even over a cup of tea
in a greasy spoon. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
I speak of course Liz
#fourpercent Kendall | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
and Michael #choochoo Portillo. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:03 | |
Welcome, both. Your moment of the
week, Michael. The relevant select | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
committee, according its
Conservatives, rejected the | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
government's nomination for the new
chairman of the Charity Commission. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
I think Charity is a pretty serious
subject nowadays. We can see a | 0:03:16 | 0:03:23 | |
couple disintegrating before our
eyes. There is also another issue | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
that some charities have
unacceptable agendas at the | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
masquerade as charities and need to
be unmasked. In other words, this is | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
a serious business. The baroness has
been rejected not least because she | 0:03:33 | 0:03:40 | |
has no experience of regulation or
charities. It illustrates that the | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
government has no idea where its
interests lie and cannot understand | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
its own priorities. Do we know if
the government is going ahead with | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
the appointment? The government has
said that, but time will tell. Never | 0:03:51 | 0:03:58 | |
have charities been more in the
spotlight, and never has it been | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
more important to get the proper
regulator in the charities | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
commission. Liz, your moment. The
failure of the UN Security Council | 0:04:05 | 0:04:11 | |
tonight to agree a ceasefire in
Syria, despite the latest | 0:04:11 | 0:04:16 | |
unimaginable horror in Eastern
Ghouta. Russia is clearly, again, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:23 | |
blocking the resolution, despite
some serious amendments. And it was | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
very interesting tonight that the
French ambassador said if a | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
resolution is not agreed it will be
a devastating blow to confidence in | 0:04:31 | 0:04:37 | |
the Security Council, and possibly
even the death knell of the UN. A | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
serious and severe warning, and we
have to make sure that isn't right. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
That is very big news. Very well.
Two very good moments. One domestic, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:53 | |
one foreign. That is how balanced we
are. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:59 | |
Now, it's rarer than a KFC chicken
these days but yesterday the leader | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
of the Opposition used PMQs to quiz
Theresa May about about Brexit. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
You always get the impression our
Jezza doesn't really give | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
a monkey's about it. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:08 | |
He's more a Stop the War,
unless Russia, Syria | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
or Hezbollah started
it, kinda guy. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:12 | |
And though Tory dither,
drift and indecision about Brexit | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
should be fertile ground for any
Opposition to exploit, well, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
he might not be entirely simpatico
with the pro-EU mainstream | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
of his own party. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
So best give it a miss. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:25 | |
Which raises an
interesting question. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
What would foreign policy be under
a Corbyn government? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
Despite all the daily party
political argy-bargy, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
there's been a pretty consistent
Labour-Tory | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
bipartisanship since WW2. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
Pro-Nato, pro-America,
pro-Commonwealth, pro-free trade, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
pro-globalisation and,
until recently, pro-EU, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
though that road's often been more
rocky for both sides. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
I think we can be sure a Corbyn
government would break that | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
foreign policy consensus. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:54 | |
Here's George Galloway
with his take of the week. | 0:05:54 | 0:06:02 | |
People accuse Jeremy Corbyn
of playing games over Brexit, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
but with a party deeply divided over
the issue, he keeps his cards close | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
to his chest, for good reason. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
Nobody can achieve a Brexit
which pleases everyone, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
so why not keep a poker face whilst
Theresa May continues to play | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
a terrible hand over in Brussels? | 0:06:34 | 0:06:42 | |
Reports this morning that Corbyn
intends to use a speech on Monday | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
to show more of his hand
on Brexit worries me. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
Providing Corbyn and the Labour
Party can continue prevaricating, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
they can emerge unscathed
from the Brexit battle ground. | 0:06:54 | 0:07:00 | |
By contrast, whatever Mrs May
achieves will create interminable | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
conflict within the Conservative
party, and could be checkmate | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
for her pathetic premiership. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
Never interrupt your enemy,
Jeremy, whilst they are | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
busy making a mistake. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:21 | |
Speculation that the speech
is going to herald a softer line | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
on Brexit worries me further. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
Corbyn has an unlikely
ally in Jacob Rees Mogg. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
If the European research group's
proposals are accepted | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
by the Government, we could make
a clean break from the | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
European Union, which is, I believe,
what Jeremy Corbyn really wants, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:47 | |
or ought to. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
A hard Brexit means a realignment
of the stars, a once-in-a-lifetime | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
opportunity for Corbyn
to revolutionise Britain's relations | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
with the rest of the world. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:03 | |
Unshackled from the little
leagues on the Continent, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
Corbyn could monopolise
on his new-found freedom, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:10 | |
realising his lifelong ambition
of engagement with his allies | 0:08:10 | 0:08:15 | |
in Latin America and Africa,
through the mechanism of the Brics, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:20 | |
fast-growing newly industrialised
countries like China, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:26 | |
India and South Africa. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
As part of a geopolitical alignment
suited to his worldview, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
Mr Corbyn could create
a new socialist pax Britannica. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
Instead of isolating
so-called rogue states, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
Corbyn could engage with them. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
Only through dialogue can
we hope to influence | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
the behaviour of others. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
Mr Corbyn could pivot Britain
towards trading opportunities | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
with parts of the world's economy
that are on the up. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:06 | |
Mr Corbyn could also score points
with the Labour grassroots | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
by eliminating two unpopular,
indeed reprehensible, partnerships. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:17 | |
One, with the murderous Saudi
regime, the other as poodle | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
to Donald Trump's alt-right
United States. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:28 | |
What's more, with the Trump
presidency on thin ice, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
and Bernie Sanders in the ascendant,
Jeremy Corbyn is the only British | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
politician who could make that
special relationship | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
even more special. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
He could transform it from one that
simply enables colonial excess | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
into a true transatlantic
partnership of people, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:51 | |
not just corporations. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
Hard Brexit means everyone
is a winner, Jeremy, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
so don't go soft on me now. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
And fresh from his success,
George Galloway joins us now. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:12 | |
Well come back to the programme.
Thank you. If Mr Corbyn took a hard | 0:10:13 | 0:10:21 | |
Brexit line, could he carry his
party? No. People like Liz and many | 0:10:21 | 0:10:28 | |
others, more than 4%, maybe 74%,
would be hostile to that. That's why | 0:10:28 | 0:10:35 | |
I think he has been carefully
playing this, and he ought to | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
continue that, because that doesn't
then burst open the Labour Party's | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
divisions. And as I said, quoting
Napoleon, never interrupt your enemy | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
while he is busy making a mistake.
John McDonnell, Shadow Chancellor, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:54 | |
says Labour policy on Brexit is
evolving. Do you think it is | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
evolving more in your direction?
Yes, I do. And I think you will see | 0:10:58 | 0:11:06 | |
more next week, particularly around
the customs union, and I hope it | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
goes further still, around the
single market. I think the reason | 0:11:10 | 0:11:16 | |
why is that the leadership is
listening not just to party members, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
Labour voters and the trade unions,
but understanding that I'm afraid a | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
hard Brexit would simply finish the
job that Thatcher began on our | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
manufacturing industries in the
Midlands and the North, and | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
undermine workers' rights and
environmental standards, all of | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
which are very important for the
future of our economy. And the very | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
strong argument that you cannot be
an anti-austerity party if you are | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
out of the single market and the
customs union and our economy takes | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
a hit. If we go into the next
election and the dichotomy is that | 0:11:46 | 0:11:53 | |
we are the Tories that withdrew from
the European Union and they are | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
Labour that tried to betray it, that
is a disaster for Labour. 70% of | 0:11:57 | 0:12:03 | |
Labour held constituencies voted to
leave in the referendum. And if | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
Labour can be fixed as the stab in
the back party, the party that | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
betrayed the decision the British
people made in the wraparound, that | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
would be an electoral catastrophe.
There will be parts of London where | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
it would be of benefit, but in the
north, in the post-industrial | 0:12:19 | 0:12:26 | |
wastelands of the Thatcher era, it
would be a complete catastrophe. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
George is right that Labour should
not interrupt their enemies while | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
they are making mistakes. A couple
of weeks ago I said I thought Corbyn | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
would not want to be Prime Minister
at this moment and I was howled | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
down, not least by you, but I think
George is saying the same thing, let | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
the Tories get on and get to Brexit
of whatever form and then the Labour | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
Party is not responsible for what
has happened. I don't believe there | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
will be a hard Brexit because I
think the European Union and | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
Britain, neither will want to impose
tariffs upon the other. But I | 0:12:58 | 0:13:04 | |
certainly think that Labour's best
interests, Corbyn's in particular, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
are to allow the Tories to get on
with this for the next two years, to | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
be hopelessly divided about it, and
to pick up the settled consequences, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
the outcome. What about George's
wider vision of a Corbyn foreign | 0:13:16 | 0:13:22 | |
policy, what it could be like? What
he outlined, by and large, it has | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
the benefit of being what Mr Corbyn
believes. It may be right or wrong | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
but it is what he believes, isn't
it? I don't think that we should be | 0:13:31 | 0:13:39 | |
an anti-West, anti-American,
anti-Europe, isolationist party. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:45 | |
That is your leader's position. I
don't be -- believe you can build | 0:13:45 | 0:13:52 | |
social democracy, let alone
socialism, in one country if you | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
don't understand that our economy is
global, climate change, terrorism, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
migration, can only be dealt with if
you play a strong role in the | 0:13:59 | 0:14:05 | |
international, rules -based
institutions we set up. George was | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
arguing just for a different role.
And a very special relationship with | 0:14:09 | 0:14:15 | |
the United States, and the
great-grandson of the only woman in | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
the 19th century later emigrated
from the United States to Dundee. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
You have seen Dundee. There is
nothing anti-American about me. I | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
want Corbyn and samplers to make a
really special relationship, one | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
involving people and not just
corporations. -- Bernie Sanders. Of | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
course, corporations do have their
role. You need to get him into the | 0:14:36 | 0:14:42 | |
White House! The current polls are
showing him... If he is still alive, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
of course. But that is true of all
of us. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:52 | |
I thought this part of George's film
should be shown as a Conservative | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
party political broadcast, unveiling
for the Corbyn foreign policy would | 0:14:56 | 0:15:02 | |
be, with one foot note, if I may,
George. You mentioned Brics, and the | 0:15:02 | 0:15:11 | |
capital R stands for Russia. But you
did not want to mention that the | 0:15:11 | 0:15:17 | |
Russian military are killing off
large numbers of civilians in Syria | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
at the moment. The regimes you would
like to put your arm around, China | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
you mentioned, with massive numbers
of death penalties every year, the | 0:15:25 | 0:15:30 | |
highest number of death penalties.
Even more than the United States. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:37 | |
Mao | 0:15:37 | 0:15:46 | |
Mao Tse at... For your information,
Britain is trying very hard to trade | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
with China, and outside of the EU,
will be in a better position to do | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
it. But you socialists have more in
common with the Chinese than with | 0:15:55 | 0:16:01 | |
Russia. One has to trade with all
kinds of countries, with the | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
exception of Saudi Arabia, I would
be in favour of trading with them, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
and to trade with them, you have to
have good relations. All the | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
countries, 25 countries we have
sanctions against at the moment, 18 | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
of which we have invaded in the
past. Since you left Russia out of | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
your little them, would you like to
say what you feel about | 0:16:24 | 0:16:36 | |
say what you feel about Russia's
role in Syria? It is cold outside, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:37 | |
and if it is warm indoors it is
because of Russian gas. Russia is an | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
important trading partner and can be
still more important. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:48 | |
still more important. So murderous
regimes should be let off? If they | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
have gas? Murderous regimes with
oil, you always little. I think | 0:16:53 | 0:17:02 | |
getting Bernie Sanders in the White
House is a bit of a stretch, and it | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
would mean turning our back on our
allies, embracing Russia and Iran - | 0:17:06 | 0:17:12 | |
could you really sell that to the
country? I'm asking the country to | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
embrace the world, to leave the EU's
fading, failing economies, with all | 0:17:15 | 0:17:21 | |
the stresses and strains in the EU,
it's falling apart in front of our | 0:17:21 | 0:17:28 | |
eyes, and embrace instead a world
where economies are rising. The | 0:17:28 | 0:17:34 | |
trouble is, George, you sound no
different from Jacob Rees Mogg. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
Labour Party members and voters just
won't buy that. If what we end up | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
having is exactly the same policy
that Jason breach -- Jacob Rees Mogg | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
has suggested. It's not right for
the country and it is not what party | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
members or | 0:17:51 | 0:17:58 | |
members or members want. -- what
Labour Party members want. This is | 0:17:58 | 0:18:04 | |
not isolationism. It is leaving the
European Union and joining the | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
world. If Jacob Rees Mogg says the
same thing, well, even a stopped | 0:18:07 | 0:18:14 | |
clock is right twice a day, and he
is right on that if that is what | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
he's saying. A final question: If Mr
Corbyn was to become prime minister, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:25 | |
how likely do you think is he to go
in the direction of foreign policy | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
that you have outlined? Does he have
the inclination to be that bold, or | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
is he likely to be much more
gradual? He's not as bold as one | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
would have thought he would be. He
is under a lot of pressure inside | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
the parliamentary Labour Party. He
doesn't have two dozen people among | 0:18:41 | 0:18:47 | |
his MPs to actual... Actually agree
with them. Even now, the Blairites | 0:18:47 | 0:18:57 | |
are there in huge numbers in the
PLP. He is cautious and serene, Zen | 0:18:57 | 0:19:02 | |
like, you might say. I don't think
if he became prime minister he would | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
be knocking over the apple carts,
kicking over the money changers' | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
tables and so one, but he would be a
steady, slow, but steady progress in | 0:19:10 | 0:19:17 | |
the direction that I have been
describing. George Galloway, thank | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
you. A pleasure. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
It's late, Saint Michael
of Assisi late. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
Yes, the blessed Govey,
patron saint of small furry things | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
at the Department of Environment,
thinks it's "unkind" to keep | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
dumb animals cooped-up
indoors all the time. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:30 | |
He wants them to be able
to frolic more outside. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
But politicians shouldn't
get too excited. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:34 | |
Even the Govester's compassion
for dumb animals has its limits. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
So no gambolling on College
Green for Tory MPs. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
They'll remain locked
in their Westminster | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
crates for the time being. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
At least until the Maybot can
concoct a Brexit policy around | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
which they can rally. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
So they could be in
captivity for some time. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
Someone who's never followed
the herd is Geoff Norcott. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
Indeed he's a phenomenon that's
rarer on BBC Radio 4 | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
than Hezbollah at a Barmitzvah. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
A comedian who isn't just funny -
that's rare enough | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
on radio these days -
but is also right of centre, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
which is not just
rare but unheard of. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
Bonkers, I know. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
So, rather appropriately,
he'll be asking if politics | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
has gone "bonkers". | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
And if you feel compelled to bleat,
moo or cluck a few mindless | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
comments onto the Tweeter,
the Fleecebook, or the Snapnumpty, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
well, feel free, be my guest, pull
up a bollard, sit down and tap away. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
But be aware that, unlike
the Maybot, I do finish my box sets. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
So I'll never get round to
seeing your drivelling. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
It's been a week of spy
plots and sci-fi movies. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
Of James Bond and Mad Max. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
Of Cold War pasts
and dystopian futures. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
Yes, all of that, and the great
finger-lickin', fried | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
chicken furore of 2018. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
So, from deep in the deep-fat
fryer, here's Jane Moore | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
with her roundup of the week. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:59 | |
Here at This Week, we know that
Andrew simply won't get into that | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
presenter's chair without first
fuelling up with a bargain bucket | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
and a couple of gallons of Blue Nun. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
So, when I heard there was a chicken
shortage at KFC, I thought I'd | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
better take matters
into my own hands. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
Let's get to work. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:24 | |
# Everybody's heard
about the bird...#. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:32 | |
Hello? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
Yes, an order for the
European research group? | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
Yes, OK, hang on a minute. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
Right, so... | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
62 servings of wings, yeah. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
Regulatory autonomy
for the UK post Brexit, OK. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:55 | |
UK free to start trade negotiations
during the transition period. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
OK, yeah, yeah. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
Thanks a lot, give me 20 minutes. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
Bye. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
A letter from Jacob Rees
Mogg's agitators gave | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Theresa May something
rather tough to chew on. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
Many feathers have been ruffled
as the squawking over Brexit | 0:22:14 | 0:22:21 | |
continues, but David Davis confused
to acknowledge the concerns of | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
Remainers over the potential
impact of leaving the EU. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:31 | |
They fear that Brexit
could lead to an | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
Anglo-Saxon race to the bottom,
with Britain plunged into a Mad | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
Max-style world borrowed
from dystopian fiction. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
These fears about a race
to the bottom are based on nothing. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:50 | |
Whilst Damian Green stuck his beak
in to call on the Government to | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
publish any Brexit
impact assessments. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
If analysis is being produced,
then publish it, and | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
frankly, there will be a big
political debate about it, and let's | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
have the argument in public. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
That's what democracies do. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
Brexiteer foxes aside,
Theresa May toured TV studios | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
to defend her premiership, and to
point out that when it comes to | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
running the country, she's still got
some eggs in her basket. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:20 | |
I'm doing a job, and I'm
going to jolly well get | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
on and do it. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
And what drives me in doing
it is actually not what's | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
written but what people out
there want the Government to do. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
But the crowing didn't
last long, feathers | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
flying yet again over
university tuition fees. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
Amidst a lot of clucking
from certain quarters, the | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
PM ruled out scrapping
them completely. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
Basically, you've got out
there people who will benefit | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
from going to university
and those who don't. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
And I think it's right that those
who benefit should make a | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
contribution. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
The crisis is involving
Oxfam and Save The | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
Children deepened yesterday as yet
more allegations emerged of sexually | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
inappropriate behaviour
by charity workers and bosses. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:03 | |
Former chief executive
of Save The Children Justin Forsyth | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
is the latest to face accusations
on his conduct. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
MPs heard evidence on Tuesday. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
I repeat Oxfam's broader apology,
and my personal apology. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:21 | |
I am sorry, we are sorry,
for the damage that | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
Oxfam has done, both
to | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
the people of Haiti, but also
to a wider efforts for aid and | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
development by possibly
undermining public support. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
On the war path this week
was Jeremy Corbyn, who in his | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
speech to the EEF, seized
the opportunity to roast the banks. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:46 | |
We will take decisions and decisive
action to make finance the servant | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
of industry, not the masters of all. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
And it wasn't just the financial
institutions he was clucked | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
off with. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Responding to accusations
that he met with spies during the | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
Cold War, he accused
the media of foul play. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
Number Ten... | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
Publishing these ridiculous
smears which have | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
been refuted by Czech officials
shows just how worried the media | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
bosses are by the prospect
of a Labour Government. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
They are right to be. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
Hmm... | 0:25:23 | 0:25:24 | |
The electorate will be
the judge of that. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
Oh, it's you! | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
Thanks! | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
Stories where Jeremy Corbyn isn't
accused of fraternising with a | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
dodgy regime seem scarcer
than hen's teeth these | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
days, but the Leader
of | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
the Opposition did a valiant attempt
to avert attention from himself at | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
PMQs by focusing on Brexit instead. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
The Foreign Secretary recently made
a speech about Brexit, and he found | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
time to mention carrots,
spam, V signs, stag | 0:25:50 | 0:25:51 | |
parties and a plague
of | 0:25:51 | 0:25:57 | |
boils. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
Not one mention of Northern
Ireland in his speech. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:05 | |
But in her response,
the Prime Minister | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
couldn't resist the urge
to peck at the open wound. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
Can I congratulate the Right
Honourable gentleman, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
because normally he stands up every
week and asks me to sign a | 0:26:14 | 0:26:22 | |
blank cheque, and I know he likes
Czechs, but really... | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
In an astonishing display
of Chicken Little syndrome, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
Tory MPs read press reports
and piled into double-O Corbyn to | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
accuse him of, in the words of
Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
being a traitor. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:33 | |
Can I have some sauce, please? | 0:26:33 | 0:26:41 | |
MP Ben Bradley's neck was wrung
by Corbyn after he posted | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
a tweet accusing the Leader
of the Opposition of selling British | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
secrets to Communist spies. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:55 | |
Thank you. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
Right, I better get
Andrew's order together. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
We've run out of chicken. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:11 | |
Jane assures me that the chicken
from Other Side Fried | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
at Peckham Levels, that I didn't get
to taste, was delicious. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:22 | |
- G8 it all. Michael, this whole
Corbyn is a spiced up, had it | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
rebound badly on the Tories and the
Tory press in the end? I don't think | 0:27:28 | 0:27:33 | |
so. I think it would be quite
difficult to elect as our Prime | 0:27:33 | 0:27:41 | |
Minister someone who was consorting
with the IRA, with Palestinian | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
terrorists... It didn't play last
time ran? No effort was made last | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
time because the Government thought
it would win effortlessly so no real | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
effort was invested. Not a
prime-time interviews, including one | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
I did where Mr Corbyn was asked
rigorously about his past | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
associations with the IRA, and it
didn't seem to have traction, even | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
in the middle of an election with a
terrorist campaign which was | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
unprecedented. River, no one thought
Labour would win the election, which | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
of course they borrow right to
assume, -- remember, no one | 0:28:14 | 0:28:21 | |
thought... Haven't the Tories
overplayed their hand? We know he | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
has never been a fan of Western
foreign policy. He has been accused | 0:28:25 | 0:28:33 | |
of being too cosy with the enemies
of the West, but that is nothing to | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
do with the trade in the country
being a traitor. No, but I'm afraid | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
it's absolutely enough to lose a
general election. The defence | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
minister said he has betrayed the
country. The idea that he had any | 0:28:46 | 0:28:55 | |
state secrets was ridiculous, and
that he would be motivated by money | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
to sell them is even more
ridiculous. That is what I mean by | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
ever playing their hand. Why do you
think these agents were interested | 0:29:02 | 0:29:07 | |
in talking to Jeremy Corbyn? Because
they had to justify their salary to | 0:29:07 | 0:29:13 | |
their Czech masters. They thought it
was important to infiltrate the | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
Labour Party, which was the
opposition party and might one day | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
become the Government party. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:24 | |
Except we have no evidence of any of
that. Michael is right to say our | 0:29:24 | 0:29:33 | |
foreign policy and security policy
will come under scrutiny at the | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
general election. But by going on
this ridiculous claim, I think | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
Corbyn is right it was a smear on
him and it has backfired. If he were | 0:29:41 | 0:29:48 | |
right, he would offer himself for TV
interviews, allowing himself to be | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
grilled about this file. They said
they did not have a file, Michael. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:58 | |
He appears and says, I am
threatening the Tory press, if I | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
become Prime Minister I will gag it
in some way. That does not endear | 0:30:02 | 0:30:07 | |
him. If Mr Corbyn is watching and he
is up for an interview, you know | 0:30:07 | 0:30:12 | |
where we are. It is 20 months since
the referendum, almost a year since | 0:30:12 | 0:30:17 | |
Article 50 was triggered, and
Cabinet ministers spent almost all | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
day today still trying to decide on
some of the most basic negotiating | 0:30:21 | 0:30:26 | |
positions of this country. Isn't
that remarkable? It is, but the | 0:30:26 | 0:30:32 | |
clock is running not only for us but
also for the European Union. But | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
they have decided their negotiating
position. They may have, but they | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
have not decided the outcome. I
absolutely do not believe there will | 0:30:41 | 0:30:47 | |
be a hard Brexit. I do not believe
that the end of this will be the | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
imposition of tariffs by the
European Union on Britain and by | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
Britain on the European Union. So
something else is going to happen. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:59 | |
That may be true, but by any of that
happen, the Europeans need to know | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
our negotiating position. Mrs May
seems to be vacillating on this. We | 0:31:03 | 0:31:11 | |
still don't know. The word is that
the meeting broke up in Chequers | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
tonight the couple of hours ago. The
big divide seems to be between those | 0:31:15 | 0:31:21 | |
who want to diverged, if and when we
leave, from European regulations, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
and those who think to get access to
all the markets we have two stay | 0:31:26 | 0:31:32 | |
roughly aligned, as close as we can.
I am told the divergences got the | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
better of the argument but there was
given steak on both sides. Is that | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
good or bad? Bad. I would like us to
stay as close as possible. Whether | 0:31:42 | 0:31:49 | |
she got agreement amongst her
Cabinet, the real battle will be on | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
her backbenchers. We heard this week
that the customs and trade bill is | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
now not going to come to Parliament
until after the May elections. There | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
has been an amendment put down by
Anna Soubry and Kenneth Clarke | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
calling for us to remain in the
customs union, and I think Labour | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
will back that. She has got the
people who voted Remain, Anna | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
Soubry, Nicky Morgan, and then she
has Jacob Rees-Mogg and that group | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
who want us to stop any kind of
negotiation by March the 20th -- by | 0:32:19 | 0:32:26 | |
March 2019. So we would fall out on
WTO rules. She has to make a choice. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:33 | |
Maybe the reason there will not be a
hard Brexit is because there will | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
not be a majority in parliament for
it. Absolutely right. There isn't. I | 0:32:36 | 0:32:44 | |
think that is coincidentally true
but it is not the reason there will | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
not be a hard Brexit. It is
unimaginable that the European Union | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
and Britain will direct tariffs when
around the rest of the world we are | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
moving in a different direction,
with the exception of the United | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
States. We are globalising and we
would find ourselves entirely out of | 0:32:58 | 0:33:03 | |
step with the global trend. On
tuition fees, the Prime Minister | 0:33:03 | 0:33:08 | |
came in this week. What is the sense
in entering a bidding war with | 0:33:08 | 0:33:16 | |
politics on this, a subject she
knows she cannot win? She can't win, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:21 | |
but the reason this has gone badly
wrong is that this is the most | 0:33:21 | 0:33:28 | |
non-Conservative policy ever
invented. When you are selling a | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
rusty bicycle or a Rolls-Royce, they
cost the same amount of money. A | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
lousy degree in a lousy university
and a top degree in a top university | 0:33:35 | 0:33:40 | |
have all been priced the same. So
the student has no power. How can a | 0:33:40 | 0:33:47 | |
Conservative Party have invented
such a daft, crazy communist system? | 0:33:47 | 0:33:54 | |
I thought Labour invented it? We
pushed it up to 9000. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
Winston Churchill once said,
"A politician needs the ability | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
to foretell what is going to happen,
and the ability afterwards | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
to explain why it didn't happen". | 0:34:04 | 0:34:05 | |
Even by recent standards,
it's been quite a week. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
David Davis invoking the spirit
of the Thunderdome to assure us | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
Brexit won't be as bad as Mad Max. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
So that's all right then. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:13 | |
An earthquake in Swansea. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:14 | |
Not a sentence you thought
you'd ever hear. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
And, rather than taking guns off
killers, in the wake of yet | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
another school shooting,
the President of the United States | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
has said that arming teachers
could be the answer. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
Just as well that wasn't the policy
when Mrs MacGregor was teaching us | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
maths in the lower fourth. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
She was already a dab
hand at whacking your | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
knuckles with a ruler. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
Who knows what she might have
done with a Colt 45? | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
So has the world gone bonkers? | 0:34:36 | 0:34:37 | |
Almost certainly. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:38 | |
That's why we're putting
bonkers in the spotlight. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:45 | |
# Bonkers...# | 0:34:48 | 0:34:56 | |
Is it just me,
or has the world gone crazy? | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
No! | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
KFC plunged fast food lovers
into despair after its chicken | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
shortage led to consumer chaos. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
I've had to go to Burger King. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
It's what? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:13 | |
Ridiculous. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:14 | |
Surely there's enough chicken. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
But was it just a little bit
bonkers to see the Queen | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
at London Fashion Week? | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
Her Maj noted the conditions
were rather hard underfoot. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
Although the course seemed
quite straightforward. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:31 | |
And just how crazy do you have to be
to give birth to your child on air. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
Hi, buddy. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
As US radio presenter
Cassidy Proctor did this week. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
She even got the audience
to name her newborn. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
Meanwhile, Theresa May says her life
is so bonkers she can't even find | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
the time to finish a box set. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
I never get to the end of a box set. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
For Ukip at least, another leader
down, the shambles is nothing new. | 0:35:55 | 0:36:00 | |
I'm constantly being told
by political experts that Ukip | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
is finished and that nobody
really cares any more, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
nobody knows what its purpose is. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
And what of serious politics? | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
Is it bonkers that we have to look
to grime musician Stormzy to hold | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
the Prime Minister to account? | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
The artist took a swipe
at Theresa May at the Brits last | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
night over her handling
of the Grenfell Tower tragedy. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
Yo, Theresa May, where's
the money for Grenfell? | 0:36:22 | 0:36:23 | |
What, you thought we just
forgot about Grenfell? | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
You criminals. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:27 | |
And you got the cheek
to call us savages... | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
Comedian Geoff Norcott thinks times
like these call for a cool head. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:34 | |
But can anyone make
sense of this madness? | 0:36:34 | 0:36:42 | |
And Geoff Norcott is with us now. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:50 | |
Welcome to the programme. KFC runs
out of chicken, Trump wants to armed | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
teachers. We are going bonkers. It
jumped the shark this week. And that | 0:36:55 | 0:37:01 | |
clip with Stormzy. There was a
headline that said Theresa May hits | 0:37:01 | 0:37:06 | |
back at Stormzy. For one second I
thought she had done it in the form | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
of rap. I could imagine her with
Michael Gove doing beatbox. It is a | 0:37:09 | 0:37:15 | |
symptom of the times we are living
in. What a terrifying image! Isn't | 0:37:15 | 0:37:21 | |
it slightly bonkers that she
responded to Stormzy? All this week | 0:37:21 | 0:37:26 | |
things like that have been
happening, with Corbyn warning the | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
press he is not a rabid
revolutionary, he threatened to | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
control the free press. A great way
of coming back against your critics. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
There were lots of things Corbyn
said in that video which were fair | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
but what was odd was the intensity
in his eyes. For a pacifist, he | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
looked like he wanted to punch
someone, ready to come out swinging. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:52 | |
Henry Bolton, the former Ukip, there
has to be a point, when you are | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
sitting on the sofa on TV and the
woman half your age is a racist, you | 0:37:55 | 0:38:01 | |
have to think I have not made prior
decisions. I was in the running to | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
be leader of the party and here I
am! What is it that is making us | 0:38:05 | 0:38:11 | |
bonkers? Elections, pressure. Buying
back from 2014, 15, these have been | 0:38:11 | 0:38:18 | |
unexpected results which puts the
pressure on politicians. There is no | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
comfort zone any more. Social media,
we could all be a hashtag by the | 0:38:22 | 0:38:27 | |
time we get back to the green room.
Or worse. Or dressed as a chicken. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:33 | |
And pressure will dismiss stakes.
When people are under pressure, they | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
shoot from the hip. Don't you think
it is just more exposed? We did not | 0:38:38 | 0:38:45 | |
know what was going on with
politicians 24-7 years ago. You are | 0:38:45 | 0:38:51 | |
right about the elections but you
are really saying lack of | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
leadership. People are trying to
react to what others have ready | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
decided. You have seen that with
Trump, the response to the gum | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
thing, dependent on the gun lobby.
He does not have a view of his own. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:08 | |
It is not just the elections, but
the results. With Trump winning in | 0:39:08 | 0:39:14 | |
America, Mrs May failing to get a
decent majority, Macron coming from | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
nowhere to win in France, Mrs Merkel
struggling to put together a | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
coalition. All of the results have
really been a kick in the teeth. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:29 | |
Nobody can get their feet under the
table. When you think back to the | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
Blair eight years, how long has it
been since people could win an | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
election and be an MP for five years
and get on with the job? You have | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
five minutes before you are getting
hounded on Twitter constantly. There | 0:39:40 | 0:39:45 | |
is a general tribalism which is
distorting. I had a clip about | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
Corbyn go viral this week. On my
Facebook page, I had people | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
reviewing me off the back of it. 25
of the reviews were 5-star, and ten | 0:39:54 | 0:40:00 | |
of them were ones star, and nothing
in the middle. I have always thought | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
I was a solid 3.7. It is almost a
symptom of the age, that the | 0:40:04 | 0:40:10 | |
dialogue and political discourse is
dominated by the fringe ends. Being | 0:40:10 | 0:40:18 | |
calm, reasonable, building
consensus, bringing people together | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
just doesn't cut it any more. It is
not fashionable in politics. The | 0:40:20 | 0:40:28 | |
mainstream is discombobulated now.
It is. But as I say, there are not | 0:40:28 | 0:40:34 | |
people who know their own mind and
are prepared to tell us what they | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
think and where they want to take
us. They are just bobbing around on | 0:40:37 | 0:40:43 | |
a sea of public opinion which is
constantly changing and moving. I | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
would suggest we will stay bonkers
for quite some time. I would hope | 0:40:47 | 0:40:52 | |
so. For comedy, it is brilliant.
What are you up to? I am on tour, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:59 | |
going round the country at the
moment. We have just extended into | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
the autumn. Although I voted
Conservative and I voted Leave, I | 0:41:03 | 0:41:09 | |
was in Leicester on Monday and there
were loads of Labour voters who came | 0:41:09 | 0:41:14 | |
and sat at the front. The Leicester
comedy Festival. Yes. All of the | 0:41:14 | 0:41:23 | |
Leavers sat at the back, for a sharp
exit! It is much better when you get | 0:41:23 | 0:41:28 | |
diversity in the audience. I am not
in this to create an echo chamber, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
so I am glad. All lefties are
welcome. I don't mind anybody. Does | 0:41:32 | 0:41:38 | |
the audience know that you are right
of centre? I think they want to be | 0:41:38 | 0:41:45 | |
triggered, in a way. There was a
woman in Leicester who I kept | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
calling mad, and she said it was a
jest and class sensitive as well. I | 0:41:49 | 0:41:55 | |
had not heard class sensitive, so I
said, all right, treacle, I will | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
call you something else. But did not
go down well! | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
That's your lot for
tonight, but not for us. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
We're off to Loulou's,
where it's Mad Max theme night. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
Giving Michael yet another excuse
to dress up in his tight, studded, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
ripped leather biker gear,
plus David Davis mask. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
Leaving Liz free to mull on life
in a dystopian world of no hope, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
no future, no purpose. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
Come to think of it,
since the Brexit referendum | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
and Jezza's takeover of her party,
that's been pretty much what's | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
she been living through anyway. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
So tonight will be just another
normal night for her. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
But we leave you tonight
on a more serious note, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
with the words of Andrew Pollock,
whose daughter, Meadow, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
was shot dead in Florida last week
in yet another mass school shooting | 0:42:37 | 0:42:43 | |
of the sort which seems to have
become quotidian in the US | 0:42:43 | 0:42:48 | |
and to which American politicians
seem incapable of responding | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
with any action, just the ritual
thoughts and prayers for the victims | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
and their loved ones. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
This is part of Mr Pollock's speech
at Donald Trump's "listening | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
session" last night. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
We, as a country,
failed our children. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
This shouldn't happen. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:16 | |
I'm very angry that this happened,
because it keeps happening. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
9/11 happened once and
they fixed everything. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
How many schools, how many
children have to get shot? | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
Because I want it to sink in,
not forget about this. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
We can't forget about all
the school shootings. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
It doesn't make sense. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:33 | |
Fix it. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:34 | |
It should have been one
school shooting and we | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
should have fixed it. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:40 | |
And I'm pissed. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
Because my daughter I'm
not going to see again. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
She's not here. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:51 | |
Never, ever will I see my kid. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
I want that to sink in. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:54 | |
It's eternity. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:55 | |
My beautiful daughter,
I'm never going to see again... | 0:43:55 | 0:44:01 |