20/02/2018 Tuesday in Parliament


20/02/2018

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Hello and welcome to the programme.

Coming up, and a comfortable morning

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of questioning for Oxfam bosses.

We

are sorry for the damage that Oxfam

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has done the.

MPs demanded the law

is changed to help a 6-year-old boy.

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I would urge them to break the law

because the law in this case is

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cruel and lacks compassion.

And the

case for a bridge across the

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channel.

It is a curiosity that two

of the most powerful economies in

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the world separated by barely 21

miles of water are connected by only

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one railway line.

Oxfam has lost

7000 regular donors since it emerged

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some of its staff paid... MPs spent

two hours grilling senior executives

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on the accusations. Then there were

the comments made by Oxfam's chief

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executive.

In your interview

published on Saturday, you appeared

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to be downplaying the scandal, using

the parallel with the murder of

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babies in their cots which many

people regarded as grossly

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inappropriate. I give you

opportunity to apologise?

Certainly.

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I do apologise. I was thinking under

stress. I had given it interviews. I

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had given many decisions to try and

lead Oxfam's response to this. I was

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thinking about the amazing work I

had seen Oxfam do across the world

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for refugees coming from EMR. I

should not have said those things.

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It is not for Oxfam to judge things

as far as Porsche elegy --

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personality. I am sorry. We are

sorry for the damage that Oxfam is

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done, both for the people of Haiti

but also for wider aid and

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development, possibly undermining

the book support.

People in our

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country behaved well as citizens not

because they are pleased... This is

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about aligning our people with the

values of Oxfam. Some hideous men

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came into our organisation and

abused the trust of the British

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people, the supporters. But they

were able to get away. This was

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wrong. We are going to change that

culture and working on that culture

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cost money.

A Conservative said she

had been highlighting the problem of

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sexual explication for two years but

no one had taken any notice.

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Everybody knew this happened.

Everybody knew that the aided sector

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was pretty rotten because it had got

all these people who were abusing

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women and girls regularly in all

countries. But nobody, not one

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organisation, was actually tackling

it in doing anything about it.

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That's shocking. You are all

supposed to be good people trying to

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help the world but it would appear

you are not as good as you should

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be.

It's really heartbreaking that

we are in the situation. But I want

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to assure you that we are not doing

nothing. We working on it but we

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have reached a point where the world

has woken up to the situation in a

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very special way and we find

ourselves not to of done enough. But

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we did something. We have been

improving every year, but we are not

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where we want to be.

But your

organisations are not the victims in

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this. It is the women and girls who

are being abused by the men who you

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employed and other agencies. This is

so shocking. No wonder the world is

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angry and no wonder the people are

questioning whether anybody should

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be giving to charities. Sadly, the

people who should benefit from this

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are the poor people in the different

countries and they're going to lose

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out because of all of your

behaviours in the Aida sector.

I can

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see that indeed, some people entered

our system who did not share our

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values. They abused the trust of

Oxfam, the power of Oxfam in their

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hands, they abused the trust of the

British public. And turned on the

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very people they were supposed to

protect.

Over in the comments of the

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International Development Secretary

gave a verdict on the previous

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leadership, using directors of

putting the reputation of Oxfam

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above the people they were supposed

to help.

We must trust organisations

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to report and follow-up incidents of

wrongdoing when they occur. In the

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this duty, Oxfam failed under the

watch of Barbara stocking and Penny

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Lawrence. They did not provide a

full report to the charity

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commission. They did not provide a

full report to their donors. They

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did not provide any report to press

getting authorities. In my view, Mr

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Speaker, they misled quite possibly

deliberately.

Eight Labour shadow

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was equally appalled, but she said

the good UK good to do...

Even at

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this darkest moment far exceeds

evil. The Secretary of State says

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she believes in aid but I have not

heard her call out those simple

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opportunities, including her own

predecessor and many in her own

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party who have jumped on this

scandal and attacked aid. If she

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won't, then I will. Because it is

wrong. It does an injustice to our

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country and it will distract us from

what's really happened needs to

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happen to happen, which are reforms.

The Ministers that she did not

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recall hearing anyone doing that.

When Conservative had a blunt

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question.

Should the UK Government

ever be working with an organisation

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that thinks they are above the law

in one of the poorest countries of

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the world, which is Haiti?

There is

no organisation that is too big for

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our work with them too complex to

have us withhold funding if they do

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not meet the standards.

Penny

Mordaunt. Karen Bradley has to

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become is that Northern Ireland

cannot remain in a state of limbo.

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She promised to provide clarity on a

budget for civil servants to work

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from a soon as possible. This the no

functioning government in Stormont

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for more than a year after the

coalition collapsed in a bitter row.

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That Northern Ireland Secretary also

said she was looking into the

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salaries of Assembly Members who are

still being paid.

A number of

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challenging decisions will have to

be taken. Ultimately, the Government

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has a responsibility to ensure good

governance and the continued

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delivery of public services. In

particular as the head of the

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Northern Ireland civil service is

made clear, the Nice to be certainty

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and clarity about a budget for

Northern Ireland for next year as

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soon as possible. I intended to take

steps to provide clarity on the

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budget and I will update the House

as soon as I'm in a position to do

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so. This is clearly not what I want

to be but in the absence of an

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executive in Northern Ireland, I

have no other choice.

Talks between

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the DUP and Sinn Fein last week over

legislation for the Irish language,

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with both sides isolating each

other.

I must commend the Secretary

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of State for the Herculean optimism

that she continues to still hope for

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a deal to be done and for the clear

statement that she's rejecting the

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calls to exceed to direct with

immediate effect. Optimism the vital

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ingredient in Northern Ireland... I

will not criticise the Government

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for remaining hopeful. But clarity

and contingency planning has also

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been important features of the

process, Mr Speaker. So people know

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where they are in the process and

what it will follow if there is no

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progress. And on this question, Mr

Speaker, I fear that many in

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Northern Ireland will be with all

the wiser after the Secretary of

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State's statements afternoon.

I've

just come from a meeting of a group

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of charities and others who want

somebody to lobby the Minister to

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argue about mental health funding in

Northern Ireland. There've been no

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Ministers for 13 months. That cannot

continue. It's time Secretary of

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State to set a budget, let the

efforts for devolution continue post

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ideas, we want to see devolution but

it is a dereliction of duty to

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continue without a budget without

ministerial decisions. It's time to

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get on with it.

Does the Secretary

of State sure my exact he said some

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of the drumbeat coming from the hard

Brexit causes of the debate to the

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Good Friday Agreement has failed,

that it's outlived its usage?" Which

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he did this opportunity to reassert

the Government's view that nothing

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should be done to jeopardise this

carefully brokered peace settlement?

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No Brexit ideology, no attempts to

justify introducing any order. But

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the Government is 100% the Good

Friday Agreement.

Mr Speaker, I can

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confirm the Government is 100 behind

the goods to the Mac -- Belfast

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agreement and that it was

specifically referenced in the

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report...

The people of Northern

Ireland want their assembly up and

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running. It is their assembly. And

they were extremely disappointed and

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very angry last week when he talks

collapse. I'm not putting the

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figure. That's not going to help

anybody. The people of Northern

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Ireland will also be externally

angry at and LA's receiving their

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full salary. What possible

justification can there be from

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paying their full salary?

The

Minister said the sellers were being

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discussed and eight decision will be

made shortly. You're watching

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Tuesday in Parliament with me, Mandy

Baker. The home honest Minister said

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the Government explore every option

in the current law to try and help a

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6-year-old boy who has a rare form

of epilepsy -- the Home Office

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industry. He as many as 30 violent

seizures a day. His parents wanting

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to be treated with cannabis oil,

which is illegal in the UK. His

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condition improved he took the drugs

abroad...

Failure for the Government

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to move from its current position

would sentence out feedback to the

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steroid macro likely to give an

early psychosis and a premature

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death. It also means that British

citizens are being denied more

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potential medical... To cannabis

based medicines. If we don't spend

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the money to do the research cannot

they went after the product. And we

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will not have to rely on the wisdom

of crowds on the source and

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unreliable product but on pure

brewed -- peer-reviewed...

It is

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clear there are some special

circumstances to this case which

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needs to be respected. I have

undertaken to meet the family and I

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would do that as quickly as

possible, and undertake to explore

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every option within the current

regulatory framework that exists. I

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give that undertaking.

It's not just

one case. There are thousands of

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people who have the choice of

suffering terrible pain and seizures

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every day or can mobilise themselves

by breaking the law. I would urge

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them to break the law because the

law in this case is cruel and lacks

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compassion.

And I have a

constituent, Vicki Clark, who is now

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just five stone in weight in Saint

Giles hospice in my constituency

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suffering from the final stages of

multiple sclerosis. Her husband

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under the only drug that cured her

pain or alleviated her pain was

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cannabis and twice he has been

investigated by the police.

We urge

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the UK Government to look again very

seriously at decriminalizing the use

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of cannabis for medicinal use. If

they do not, we would ask they

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devolve the power of Scotland said

the Scottish Government can take the

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appropriate steps. We say we would

like this for everybody in the

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United Kingdom.

There are good

reasons for the Government's current

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position but as I said, I made very

clear in the statement we are

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looking very closely at what other

approaches taken by other countries

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and we have a keen eye and what the

global experts, the WHO, conclude in

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terms of the therapeutic and

medicinal benefits of cannabis.

May

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I help the Minister and suggest that

he speak to his colleague, the

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Secretary of State for Health, and

ask about the extensive trial known

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as Delta nine which took place in

the royal hospital 40 years ago?

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With cannabis. To be an excellent

prophylactic against nausea. The

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data is there, the evidence is

there. Why does he not save time and

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trouble and talk to the Secretary of

State for Health and let's resolve

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this matter for once and for all?

In

addition to the... Sufferers denied

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access to cannabis for medicinal

purposes.

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I think that answer is the standard

by the Department of Health. What I

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am keen to register at the Hess is

our determination to try and explore

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every option to see if we can

support this case. The Education

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Secretary has admitted that changes

to higher education in England

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haven't delivered the range of

choice and Ministers wanted. On

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Monday Theresa May launch a

government review of tuition fees

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and university funding. Putting a

little flesh on the bones, it was

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told MPs that reviews would look up

parts of the system that were not

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working well.

Does not always offer

a copper handset range of

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high-quality alternative routes for

the money and people to receive a

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technical or vocational path at that

stage. And universities have not

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seen the extent of an increase in

choice that we would have wanted.

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The great majority is to be same

level and three-year courses... Even

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the funding system has built-in

protections the elements are not

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always entirely understood.

He said

the review would also look at the

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cost of higher education.

We must

maintain a protect key elements of

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our education system network a while

already. We will maintain the

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principle that students should

contribution because of their

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studies and we will not place

account on the number of students

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who can benefit from it. In Scotland

controls as the numbers continue to

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restrict the aspirations of young

people.

Amid welcome the Prime

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Minister his admission yesterday

that the system is not working.

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Surely talked about the choices

facing a working-class teenage girl

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today. I have faced those choices as

a working-class teenage go myself

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but every part of the education

system that helped me has been

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attacked by this government. The

truth is that a year-long review is

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an unnecessary waste of time and

energy when action is needed now. So

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let me offer him a simple conclusion

to his review. A fully costed plan

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to scrap tuition fees, bring back

maintenance support and reverse the

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rest... It is called for the many

not be few. And that is exactly what

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our education system should be.

An

SNP MP re-highlighted the Scotland

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education.

This support package

works, the Scottish 18-year-olds

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from the most disadvantaged

backgrounds are now 67% more likely

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to apply to higher education than 12

years ago. And they graduate with

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the lowest debt in the UK. Isn't it

time that we stop the nonsense and

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abolish the fees is? And match not

just Scotland but the rest of the

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developed world?

One fifth to a

third of graduates are not getting

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graduate jobs. And the number of

state school graduates have gone

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down in the past year. Is it not the

case that our home education system

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is not providing value for money

from any disadvantaged people? That

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is why this review must focus on

skills and addressing social

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injustice.

There is no such thing as

free and higher education. Somebody

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must pay. There only two types of

people who confront higher

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education, the people who have

benefited from and we know that over

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their lifetimes they typically earn

much more and narrative people who

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have entered. There is a public

subsidy that goes towards education

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and O'Reilly reflects the societal

benefit that we do think it is right

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that if you are one of those ones

who benefits you should contribution

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to the cost. The alternative, the

labour alternative is to have the

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tab picked up by other taxpayers

entirely. Many of whom will not have

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benefited from this advantage is.

About is a regressive policy, it

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would mean less money going to

universities and fewer people going

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to university. To be a policy for

the few, not the money.

The

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Education Secretary. I'm Boris

Johnson propose the 22 mile long

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bridge connecting tent with France

last month experts are quick to

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point out the hazards of a giant

concrete structure in the middle of

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one of the worlds busiest shipping

lanes and the matter came up again

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at four and office questions.

You'll

be aware of the warning that the

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Channel ports face gridlock if I

transition arrangement for Brexit is

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not simple lace urgently. What is

the point of a 20 mile Bridge

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affairs went to be a 20 mile queue

to get onto it?

I congratulate the

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honourable member for crowbar and

Brexit and to that question. I think

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most people would appreciate that

the euro tunnel, the existing

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channel tunnel is likely at the

present rate to be full within the

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next seven years. It is a very short

time. It is a curiosity that to have

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the most powerful economies in the

world, separated by barely 21 miles

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of water are connect it by only one

railway line. And I think it is a

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matter for legitimate reflection by

our two countries.

In terms of links

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across the channel with France and

many other European partners,

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yesterday the Brexit select

committees on Michel Barnier and it

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is absolutely clear that the ED

partnership that we are looking for

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will be a unique and specific

agreement. -- deep relationship that

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will benefit the side of the channel

anonymously. As the Foreign

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Secretary agree with me that this

should be the outcome of the talks

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that will be starting again soon?

On

the subject of crowbarring the

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question is about a fixed link, not

about Brexit.

If I may say so I

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think my honourable friend has hit

upon the notion of a metaphorical

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fixed link, a great swollen,

throbbing connection of trade

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between us. Each side neutrally

nourishing the other. I very much

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approve of the note about to visit

many strikes.

In 1971 the French and

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the English counterparts started

talking about the Channel tunnel.

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And they were mocked. Can we have

more visionary and less mockery of

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the ideas of havoc and take forward

future relationships?

I would remind

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honourable members opposite, it is

invariably conservative of

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ministrations to come forward with

these things it was the

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Conservatives who revive the east

End of London with the Canary

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project and it was Margaret Bacher

who green-lighted the first channel

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tunnel. A bridge to France, it could

yet happen. Is too much money being

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spent on sports? That too few of us

actually play? Several MPs have

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claimed up basketball is a popular

sport that has been unfairly

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deprived of funds by the UK sport

government body which helps recruit

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promote. A London Labour MPs said

basketball is very important for

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inner-city youngsters.

Almost 60% of

adults in this sport are from black,

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Asian or minority backgrounds. 75%

if you look at the figure for adult

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men particularly. But a staggering.

What that is in reality is role

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models, I desperately need. You

cannot have role models that there

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is no prospect of making it you'll

eat. And so I say to the Minister,

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one of the cookie figures I have to

ask for this urban sport and this

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sport which attracts black, Asian

and minority ethnic communities in

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the number is that it does, why is

it that hockey received 28.1 million

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and the rugby league received 51.6

million? Why is it that canoeing,

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cycling, rowing all do so much

better? Where is the equity in that

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formula? And can she satisfy herself

that there is no unintended or

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unconscious bias in the way that

judgements are being made about that

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funding?

But the Minister was not

convinced.

As other colleagues have

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mentioned, basketball is the only

Olympic sport that UK sport do not

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find. It can offer great

opportunities in communities, many

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other sports can send out equally

credible reasons to receive equal

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support.

Finally the House of Lords

has a new black rod, for the first

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time in 650 years it is a woman.

Sarah Clark, previously ran the

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Wimbledon tennis championships and

will be known as the lady Usher of

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the black rod. She replaces David

and a role that involves more than

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having a door slammed in your face.

As a Leader of the House explained

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in her tribute.

Behind the scenes

during his time as black rod, David

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was responsible for arranging a six

state openings, a huge operation

0:24:550:24:59

which he and his team including the

doorkeepers always managed with

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skill and sensitivity. David

supervised nine state visits and the

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six addresses by number of notable

heads of government and states.

The

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shadow Leader of the House recorded

particularly memorable state

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openings.

The Queen's Speech

unfortunately clashed with the

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previous commitment and the overall

calendar. In a full House of Commons

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such formal ceremony, it was a

delight to watch David to struggle

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to keep a straight face.

Ladysmith

on the delights that await the new

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black rod. But as I would have time

for, goodbye.

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