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I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme.

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More than 130,000 people are recorded missing

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but what's happened to those left behind?

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Don't leave it too late on Sunday getting back.

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Nobody has seen or heard from him since.

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We'll hear from one woman who tells us the only way out

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She's now been reunited with her family.

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Plus warnings that so many prisoners are falling ill from "legal highs"

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that it is straining local ambulance services.

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We'll speak live to the chief inspector of prisons who tell us

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the abuse of psychoactive substances had turned them into the top

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The terror attacks in Paris left 130 people dead and the world in shock.

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Survivors tell of their experiences inside the Bataclan concert hall.

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I'm still wondering why he didn't trigger his detonator at this

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moment. If so, we would have all been killed.

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Welcome to the programme, we're on BBC 2 and the BBC

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First this morning, there are more than 130,000 people now recorded

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as missing by police, according to new figures seen

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Most those who disappear will return home quickly,

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But a small proportion, around 1%, are still not found a year later.

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When someone disappears the first job of the police and other

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authorities is to make sure they're safe.

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It's thought there are 15,000 families in the UK

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who are still trying to find their loved ones more

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than 12 months after they first vanished.

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Jim Reed has been speaking to some of them.

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Every two minutes, someone is recorded missing.

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95% are found safe and well within 48 hours.

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But around 2500 people each year are still missing 12 months later.

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He said "I'm going to mates at Mile End for the weekend"

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and he said he would be back on Sunday because he has

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On Thursday evening, the 8th of April...

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"Don't leave it too late on Sunday getting back."

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No-one has seen or heard from him since.

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Five years ago, Matthew Green, on the right, vanished from his home

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As far as his parents know, he wasn't in any trouble

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His bedroom hasn't been touched since that day.

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On Wednesday when I went to the police station,

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I felt stupid, for want of a better word.

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I thought, he's 26 and I'm coming here to report him missing.

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I don't know if I'm doing right or wrong, or if he is missing,

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He hasn't been in contact since last Friday.

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Which is totally out of the ordinary.

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And then they wanted to come to the house to look at his room

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and see if there was anything that might show up.

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That was totally unusual because at that time,

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it was like this all the time, it was super glued to his ears.

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He would never, ever leave his phone.

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That's when the alarm bells started ringing,

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Matthew didn't just leave his phone behind, he took his passport,

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birth certificate and ?1,700 in cash he had been saving.

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His parents have spent five years following every lead.

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The last five and a half years have been hell,

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Quite a few people have said to me that I'm a strong person

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You don't see me when I'm in the bathroom myself

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And then you continue, you just carry on.

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I mean, I have done 30 years plus in the rescue service

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and I have resolved a lot of different problems

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for different families, but the hardest thing that I feel,

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At the end of the day, I look at it and say,

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I've done it for all of these other people.

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I'm saying, I'm sorry, girl, I don't know what the answer

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I can't wave a magic wand and make everything better.

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Because it won't go away until we find him.

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If someone dies in traumatic circumstances there is support

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for the family and however hard, there is a resolution.

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The families of the missing don't always get the same attention

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from the media, local authorities, or the police.

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Certainly the early days it's all about getting the message out,

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getting the missing person back as quickly as possible.

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Families in this situation for sadly months, years later,

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they will say to us that waiting and not knowing is like some kind

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Many families would say to us, how can I go out and go on holiday,

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how can I move house, even years later,

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In a handful of cases there is no resolution,

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She didn't restrictions, she didn't like being told

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what to do so when dad said, you have to be in by a certain time,

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Mary Flanagan is the oldest missing person case in the history

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She left home aged 16 on New Year's Eve, 1959

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She worked here at the giant Tate Lyle sugar refinery in the east end

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of London and told her family she was going to a party that night.

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The next morning when mum got up, she realised that Mary

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So they went to the firm and when they got there,

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they had the shock of their life, she hadn't been to work

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Her sister Brenda was just eight years old at the time.

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Back then there was no DNA testing or phone records.

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Mary had a boyfriend, a man called Tom, but more than half

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a century later his whereabouts and even his surname are lost.

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The thing that comes to our minds, siblings, I'm sure it was in mum

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That would have been the worst thing, at 16,

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to say that she's pregnant.

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Dad would have hit the roof but he would have calmed down

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What were your parents going through around that time?

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Hell, I don't know how else to explain it.

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We was young and we wanted to talk, she was our sister.

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We knew we had a sister missing, even though she was young.

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Something in my heart is telling me that she's there,

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we need to let her know we want her in our lives.

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In the '80s and again more recently, police searched

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In 2013 when she would, or could have turned 70,

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Posters were printed and newspaper articles written,

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It is still raw, especially at special times of the year.

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Time is getting on, we are getting older, you know.

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Something has to happen before it's too late for any of us.

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Mary Flanagan may be unique but there are thousands of other

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people missing in the UK for a year or more.

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Every one of those cases is life changing, not just for the person

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who disappeared but for the families left behind.

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You can watch that film again on our programme page,

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Later we'll be talking to one woman who said she vanished in an attempt

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Thanks for joining us today, still to come.

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The use of legal highs in prisons is said to be out of control

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We'll have the details and find out why the authorities seem powerless

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Some of the survivors of the shootings at the Bataclan

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concert hall in Paris relive their memories of that

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David Cameron has said a pathway has been created to help Britain secure

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a deal to renegotiate its relationship with

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He said talks at the EU summit in Brussels last night made

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progress, but it would be "tough" to reach agreement at the next

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We have taken a big step forward for a better deal for Britain,

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but there is still a lot of hard work to be done

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The energy regulator, Ofgem, has fined Npower a record

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?26 million for failures in the way it billed customers

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The money will be paid to the worst-hit customers

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Production at Britain's last deep coal mine will end at lunchtime

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today, with 450 people set to lose their jobs.

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UK Coal, which owns Kellingley Colliery in North Yorkshire,

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blames competition from cheap coal imports.

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The National Union of Mineworkers has described it as a sad day.

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Prison inspectors have warned that the use of so-called "legal

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highs" is the biggest threat to safety and security in jails.

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The chief inspector for England and Wales, Nick Hardwick,

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who's about to leave his post, has criticised the government

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for being slow to tackle the problem.

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Pope Francis is reported to have recognised a second miracle

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attributed to Mother Teresa, clearing the way for the nun to be

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A Catholic newspaper said the miracle involved

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the inexplicable healing of a Brazilian man with

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Mother Teresa was beatified, the first step towards sainthood,

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Let's catch up with all the sport now and join Hugh, who has

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the latest on Jose Mourinho's sacking by Chelsea.

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sport is dominated by the sacking of Jose Mourinho from Chelsea, just

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seven months after leading the club to the Premier League title. They

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have lost nine of their 16 games this season and are sitting just one

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point above the relegation zone. Last season's heroics were not

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enough to save Mourinho. His second spell in charge and he has been

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sacked again. Michael said that the situation was down to a powerful

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discord between the manager and players. We will have more on the

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fallout after 10am. And at Fifa as Michel Platini has his case heard by

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the ethics committee today. He won't be attending, saying the result has

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been predestined. And eight serious fall for the basketball star Labuan

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James. He was fine but the wife of Jason Day came off worst -- le Bron

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James. We're taking a break for Christmas

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and this is our last programme This morning we're going to bring

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you some of our highlights from the past eight months

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since we first went on air in April. On our first programme we looked

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at the growing number of children aged ten and under

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who have been referred to NHS support services to help deal

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with transgender feelings. The figure has more than quadrupled

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in the last six years. In particular, we head the story

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of Lily, one of the youngest transgender children in the UK,

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with permission from her parents Now I'm living as a girl,

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I feel much better. Would you be able to draw me

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a picture of how you look, Can you remember when you were being

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treated as a boy, why you wanted I wanted to because I wanted to just

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see how it looked and see if anyone Why were you so sure that

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you would be happier Because I'm sort of am

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a girl, I like girl stuff. Can you remember what you were

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thinking, what you felt like when you were wearing boys

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clothes when you were younger? When I started wearing

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girls' clothes to school, I have girl trousers,

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a girl cardigan, a girl Tell me about school,

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what was the day They had footballers and fairies,

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I was a fairy and my friend Can you tell me about

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the outfit you wore? What else, is there more stuff

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here that you wore on that day? Do you think as you grow up a bit

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you might change your mind? Because I will just have girl

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clothing and never forget about anything because girl things

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are all over my room and I have a bunch

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of Hello Kitty things. Can you imagine what it would be

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like if you were living as a boy? I suppose what I mean is,

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if you were not allowed to play with girl stuff and wear girl

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clothes, if everyone around I would be really upset

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and I would tell my mummy and daddy and see if they say yes

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or no and if they say no, Now I'm living sort of as a girl,

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I feel much better. As soon as Lily could talk,

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she came into my room, I had a dress on and she said,

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mummy, can I wear one Just so excited about

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earrings and dresses. She was very preoccupied

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with gender which, for a three-year-old,

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this was unusual. I guess at that age,

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it's quite cute and you think well, they'll grow out of it,

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or maybe they will grow up to be You have two boys, one

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of them is older than Lily. Presumably you brought them both up

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in pretty much the same way? Yeah, my eldest son just did

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everything you expected, he loved cars and tractors

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and diggers and dinosaurs. You have a second and you think

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they'll be the same but they just We are on the same page with how

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we think we should go forwards and how we should support Lily,

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which I know is great because I know families where that hasn't been

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the case and it's What about the wider family,

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your parents, Lily's grandparents? Yes, I think the wider family have

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found it harder to understand and it Is there an element that you have

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indulged your child I'm sure some of them

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will see it like that, yeah. They will think that we should

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have tried harder. Some may think that the child

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is six, it is bound to be a phase, We thought that, I guess,

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to start with. But this has been going on since

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she first started talking. There's no point trying to force

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them to be someone they aren't, you have to accept

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them and support them. And throughout Christmas

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watch our for special programmes from Victoria looking

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back at our exclusive You can see the first part of that

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on the BBC News Channel on Monday Next a warning this morning

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that the use of so-called legal highs in jails has become

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so widespread that ambulance The chief inspector of prisons,

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Nick Hardwick, who's about to leave his post,

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has raised the alarm over substances like Mamba and Spice

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which are chemically designed He says it's the most serious threat

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to security in prisons The Prison Service says

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it is using a range of robust We can speak to Nick Hardwick

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now and Steve Gillan, who is the general secretary

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of the Prison Officers' Association. We can also speak to

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Dr Hazel Torrance, who's a toxicologist at

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Glasgow University. Steve, there has been an incident

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overnight with prison officers taken into hospital. Indeed their house. I

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have not had time to digests the Chief Inspector's report on the

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substances, but what I can say is at Durham prison, yesterday, three

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prison officers were taken to hospital, suffering from the effects

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of MPS, just by breathing it in. They were kept to six hours, I

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understand, in hospital, for observations, because their heart

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rate was up and it was causing problems. Is this the first time

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prison officers have been affected? I do not think so but the

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information I have is it has happened at Durham in the past

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couple of weeks and also at other prisons. There is not enough is

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known about what is coming into prisons but I agree with what I have

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read of this report there is a massive security implication for

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prisons. How would you assess it? You have said the issues are so

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great it is depleting ambulance resources. It is a serious threat.

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Because each batch is different and people don't know what they are

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taking... 19 prisoners have died, we think, from taking Spice. The

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trading in prison causes debt, which leads to violence against staff and

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prisoners. Some of the debt is forced on prisoners'

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prisoners. Some of the debt is community. My thought is organised

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crime is getting behind the supply and said the profits that can be

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made from this go back to feed crime in the community, so it is not just

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a problem for prisons, it is spreading to the community. How on

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earth is this happening? Prisons should be the most secure

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environment in the country. It should not be happening and it needs

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to be stopped. Drugs get into prisons in a lot of different ways.

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If you have a big training prison with a long perimeter, it tends to

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come in over the wall. People will throw it over, sometimes using

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catapults, putting it in tennis balls. In a local prison, where

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prisoners go in and out to court, we have instances of prisoners getting

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themselves recalled to prison with legal highs in their body cavities,

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which they can then sell for large amounts of money and collect the

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money when they come out, and sometimes staff are involved,

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visitors are involved. You can spray legal highs on paper and sent a

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letter in pregnant to do with it which you can bowl and smoke as a

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cigarette. It is difficult to stop. Who is failing here? They have not

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had an effective testing mechanism. If prisoners are under the

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influence... They will be punished and disciplined for that. They will

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be sanctioned. But if people take it... Most of it is undetected

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because people will take it at night, take delivery and smoke it at

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night in their prison cell and if it does not make them ill, it would be

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difficult to find out what is going on. Normally what happens, there is

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an effective test. They do random tests on prisoners so you can tell

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if they are taking things they shouldn't. The problem is up to now

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there is no effective test for legal highs. There are tests being

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developed, but they are behind the game on this. Our prison officers

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being lax in trying to deal with this? I think the prison service has

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been lax in not keeping methods are up-to-date and it is putting

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prisoners and staff at risk with violence that the MPS drugs are

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having, it is a massive increase over the past year. 37% increase on

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violence. You put it down to the drugs? Absolutely. In relation to

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the drugs, prisoners have been taken to hospital because they are out of

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control with these drugs. And because they cannot be detected, I

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am worried about the staff, the health and safety of prison officers

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breathing in fumes, coming into contact with these drugs, that

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nobody knows a lot about. The difficulty is it is making prisons

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more violent, it is making the health and safety of prison

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officers, putting that to the test. I think Nick is right. I believe the

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prison service need to get tougher on this. We need more staff, Nick

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mentioned perimeters, there is not enough being done. Prison officers

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have been cut by 30% in the past five years. Numbers have decreased

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and it makes prisons on stable. We can bring in our forensic toxicology

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expert. Tell us more about these drugs. We hear about the impact of

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them not just on prisoners but people around them. If prison

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officers are going to hospital having inhaled something like this

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from a distance, how potent are they? The short answer is we do not

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know. They are variable. Everybody has an individual effect it to them.

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There is such an unknown in everything surrounding these drugs

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in prison. It is not just inhalation of these drugs, but officers who

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have to deal with these people who are very violent, hallucinating, it

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is not an easy situation to deal with. Would you say the effects are

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worse than illegal drugs in some cases? I think the problem is it is

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so uncontrolled and unpredictable. We know quite a bit about the

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classic drugs of abuse. People know how to take them. With these newer

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drugs, they can be so variable, the concentrations, the mixtures, how

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people take them, whether you can snort these things as well as smoke

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them. There are many unknowns. Prison say there is a zero tolerance

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policy on drugs. Is that meaningless when we hear this? If they know

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someone is taking it, the prisoner will be sanctioned and disciplined.

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The problem is there is not an effective testing mechanism. This is

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not organic, it is not growing, it is manufactured in a sort of factory

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in a kitchen, garage, and each batch is different. That is why it is

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difficult to test for and why the effects are unpredictable. There has

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to be away for the authorities to get a grip on this. There are two

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things they need to do. They need to develop testing methods that enable

:28:46.:28:50.

it to spotted and dealt with. How far off is that? They tell us it is

:28:51.:28:56.

almost there, I think there are tests being piloted at the moment.

:28:57.:29:01.

It is not just a question of stopping the supply, you also need

:29:02.:29:07.

to reduce demand. You can do education with prisoners. Often

:29:08.:29:11.

prisoners educating other prisoners works well, so there is a credible

:29:12.:29:16.

source of information, telling them how dangerous it is. You can have

:29:17.:29:21.

equipment, trying to wean people off. These things are some way off,

:29:22.:29:25.

in the meantime how worried are you about what is going on? There is a

:29:26.:29:32.

real risk now. At the moment it is the most serious threat to safety

:29:33.:29:39.

and security in the prison system. It is... It could lead to death

:29:40.:29:46.

because of the effects. It is leading to violence. It is rippling

:29:47.:29:50.

out beyond prison walls into the community, into the families of

:29:51.:29:54.

prisoners having to pay off debt sometimes, and into the communities

:29:55.:29:58.

who suffer from crime gangs who are behind this, who are getting rich on

:29:59.:30:00.

profits to be made. Nick is absolutely right, I think

:30:01.:30:11.

the contributory factor to prisoners's debts is unacceptable to

:30:12.:30:17.

the prison service. I believe prisoners have been bullied into

:30:18.:30:20.

taking them, to test them out, to pay off debts, to see the reaction.

:30:21.:30:26.

And I worry about prison officers. Michael Burr has agreed to meet me

:30:27.:30:33.

next week because it is a major problem. Keep us updated, thank you.

:30:34.:30:39.

Martin has said that nothing should be legal about these drugs, they

:30:40.:30:43.

should all be banned. Another says that if anybody be to take a drug to

:30:44.:30:48.

get out of living, they should get help. And a statement from the

:30:49.:30:52.

Ministry of Justice, saying they take a zero justice approach and

:30:53.:30:55.

there are a range of measures. Coming up, we'll be live

:30:56.:31:15.

at Kellingley Colliery in North Yorkshire, Britain's

:31:16.:31:17.

last deep coal mine, which ceases production today

:31:18.:31:19.

with the loss of hundreds of jobs. So many questions are still being

:31:20.:31:24.

asked about last month's terror What was it like to be

:31:25.:31:27.

one of the 1,500 people inside the Bataclan concert hall

:31:28.:31:32.

as three gunmen unleashed the carnage that would ultimately

:31:33.:31:34.

leave 90 concertgoers dead. You're about to hear from some

:31:35.:31:37.

of those who lived through As you might expect,

:31:38.:31:40.

much of what they say in this

:31:41.:31:44.

extraordinary film by Newsnight's The film is 11 minutes long,

:31:45.:31:46.

so if you'd rather not watch then you've got time to do

:31:47.:31:53.

something else for a bit. But if you want

:31:54.:31:55.

to carry on watching, It had been Katie's birthday three

:31:56.:31:57.

weeks previously and I had decided It had been Katie's birthday three

:31:58.:32:52.

getaway. It's one of the best musicals in Paris. We thought we

:32:53.:32:55.

would have one of the best nights of our lives.

:32:56.:33:10.

We saw Jesse standing there so we asked him if it was OK for pictures

:33:11.:33:18.

and he said of course. He said to us that he would rock the place for us

:33:19.:33:25.

tonight and we were really excited about it.

:33:26.:33:35.

We were thinking probably we would avoid going into the big crowd and

:33:36.:33:45.

maybe it would be better to stand back by the door. In that picture we

:33:46.:33:54.

are just behind Paul. A few steps down to the main dance floor the bar

:33:55.:34:01.

is behind us. And the entrance doors are directly behind us.

:34:02.:34:12.

I posted my traditional picture on Facebook, some videos. We said it

:34:13.:34:31.

was one of the best concerts we've seen because of the energy of the

:34:32.:34:34.

band and the public. It is one of the most beautiful

:34:35.:35:00.

venues in Paris, we were one of the first to get in, to be within a few

:35:01.:35:04.

metres. It was the first time I was seeing

:35:05.:35:20.

them on stage and it was fun, it was very fun until the fifth or sixth

:35:21.:35:22.

song, when it all began. We heard, you know, clacking noise

:35:23.:36:07.

is, something very weird. -- noises. I felt a knock, something being

:36:08.:36:35.

spilt on my shoulder. David was standing behind me, kind of

:36:36.:36:39.

protecting me from getting bashed, moved around at the concert. I

:36:40.:36:45.

turned to David and as I said "Did somebody spilled their drink?" ...

:36:46.:36:54.

They're worth flushes and sparks and persistent gunfire -- flashes. It

:36:55.:37:00.

wasn't a good sound. The only way to know is to look at the guys on the

:37:01.:37:05.

stage and I could see them looking towards the entrance. And their

:37:06.:37:15.

mouths just dropped and I could see fear and I knew that there was death

:37:16.:37:16.

on their faces. They were getting nervous because

:37:17.:37:30.

they wanted the police to stay far from the corridor. There is also a

:37:31.:37:39.

big silence. We saw before the final assault the red lights, so we knew

:37:40.:37:42.

that people were on the roof, snipers. We knew that the police

:37:43.:37:49.

were there. Every hostage is very quiet. We didn't talk to each other.

:37:50.:38:00.

The three hostages behind the door, the terrorists were giving orders to

:38:01.:38:07.

these hostages, asking them to listen to what was happening inside

:38:08.:38:18.

the Bataclan. And for the six first standing in front of the window, the

:38:19.:38:24.

action was to look at what was happening in front.

:38:25.:38:31.

How many people we were, where we are, whether we are safe, whether

:38:32.:38:39.

there are injuries. They asked if we could see the explosive belt. The

:38:40.:38:47.

terrorists asks one of the hostages to shout the smartphone number to

:38:48.:38:55.

the police. During this period they had more or less five or six calls.

:38:56.:39:05.

The terrorists were only saying "We have hostages, we have exposed

:39:06.:39:10.

belts. If you come too close, we are going to kill the hostages, so stay

:39:11.:39:18.

far. " They seemed not to have any demands. So it gave more impact for

:39:19.:39:28.

me, the fact that they were going to kill us.

:39:29.:39:34.

There's a lot of shooting and explosions. Going boom, boom, boom.

:39:35.:39:46.

The police were throwing stun grenades. And this moment, I fell.

:39:47.:40:02.

I think I was the last hostage, maybe one of the last. I can

:40:03.:40:13.

remember precisely the image of one of the terrorists shooting. In one

:40:14.:40:23.

hand he has his Kalashnikov and in the other hand, his finger on the

:40:24.:40:24.

detonator. So, two terrorists are escaping

:40:25.:40:41.

using the stairs. At this moment, the police start shooting.

:40:42.:40:49.

I'm still wondering why he didn't trigger his detonator at this

:40:50.:40:59.

moment. If so, we would have all been killed.

:41:00.:41:16.

When the police took us out of the corridor, they said not to look at

:41:17.:41:27.

what's happening in front of the stage. But it wasn't easy for us not

:41:28.:41:36.

to have a look. How can you think like that, walking in and shooting

:41:37.:41:43.

people in the back while they are having fun at a concert, you know?

:41:44.:41:50.

It doesn't make any sense to me and I don't think it makes sense to you

:41:51.:41:52.

either. How are you sleeping? Not very well,

:41:53.:42:10.

a lot of nightmares. During that dream, every time, I think my brain

:42:11.:42:18.

is trying to let me see what it was protecting me from. Every night it

:42:19.:42:23.

is the same dream, the black background. I don't feel any anger

:42:24.:42:33.

or hatred, it's just sadness. I feel sad about everybody that was there,

:42:34.:42:38.

whether they were the ones shooting, or the people who were shot. I just

:42:39.:42:44.

feel very sad. There's no point in being angry, it's done.

:42:45.:43:13.

That film was made by Warwick Harrington and Alessandra

:43:14.:43:15.

You can watch a much longer version of that film online,

:43:16.:43:21.

follow the links at bbc.co.uk/newsnight.

:43:22.:43:28.

Coming up: more than 100,000 people are missing in the UK at anyone

:43:29.:43:36.

time. We'll speak to one woman who disappeared from home for 18 months.

:43:37.:43:41.

We'll talk to her about why she went and why she decided to go home in

:43:42.:43:45.

the end. Now, let's catch up with the weather. Sarah Keith Lucas has

:43:46.:43:52.

the details. It's so mild, it seems a silly question, but any prospect

:43:53.:43:56.

of a white Christmas? It has been very mild, it feels more like the

:43:57.:44:00.

middle of May. We are going to keep that theme to the weather as we head

:44:01.:44:05.

towards the festive period. Looking at white Christmases, that's what

:44:06.:44:08.

everyone is wishing for, it only needs one flake of snow to be

:44:09.:44:13.

observed falling during the 24 hours of Christmas day, at any of our

:44:14.:44:19.

weather stations, that constitutes a white Christmas. Has it ever

:44:20.:44:24.

happened that there is one flake? Probably not! Normally more than

:44:25.:44:29.

that. It is reasonably common, over the last 55 years we have had a

:44:30.:44:34.

white Christmas 38 times, so in theory it is more likely than not

:44:35.:44:38.

that some parts of the country will see a white Christmas. The most

:44:39.:44:42.

white on record, when we had the most snow, that was five years ago,

:44:43.:44:49.

in 2010. Many parts of the country, 80% of the weather stations in fact

:44:50.:44:52.

reported snow lying on the ground in 2010.

:44:53.:44:58.

I remember it well! If we look ahead at the festive period we are likely

:44:59.:45:06.

to see colder air pushing into northern parts of the country with

:45:07.:45:09.

just a chance we could see hill Snow, mainly on top of the mountains

:45:10.:45:14.

of Scotland, but for the majority, we are not likely to see a white

:45:15.:45:19.

Christmas. Further south stay mild and unsettled, so breezy and

:45:20.:45:24.

outbreaks of rain. It does not feel like Christmas. It has been

:45:25.:45:28.

particularly mild over the past few weeks. December well above average

:45:29.:45:32.

for the time of year. Weather watchers have sent pictures of him

:45:33.:45:38.

roses blossoming in Kent, daffodils also. We have heard wide reports of

:45:39.:45:44.

spring bulbs popping up as brothers blossom on the trees. Mild weather

:45:45.:45:49.

will continue for the next few days. Outbreaks of rain pushing across

:45:50.:45:54.

Northern Ireland, Scotland, into the north-west of England. Further south

:45:55.:45:58.

and east, dry conditions and brightness, some sunshine in the

:45:59.:46:03.

east. In the west, cloudy. Some hill fog. Drizzle in the south-west and

:46:04.:46:09.

Wales. Further east, the best of the brighter skies in Kent, up towards

:46:10.:46:14.

Norfolk. Further north, some rain across parts of the north-west of

:46:15.:46:19.

England, but nothing heavy today. Spells of rain in Northern Ireland

:46:20.:46:24.

and west Scotland, around 50 millimetres of rain by the end of

:46:25.:46:28.

the day. This evening we'd lose their heaviest of the rain. Cloudy,

:46:29.:46:34.

murky, hill fog and patchy rain and drizzle overnight. Very mild. It

:46:35.:46:41.

could be record-breaking tonight. Possibly the warmest December night

:46:42.:46:45.

ever on record across some parts of the country. Saturday dawning on a

:46:46.:46:51.

mild note. The next weather front during Saturday is positioned

:46:52.:46:55.

through the central part of the country. It will be slow-moving and

:46:56.:47:00.

there will be spells of rain particularly in the south-west of

:47:01.:47:04.

England, Wales and northern England. In the south-east, looking dry and

:47:05.:47:09.

mild. Further north and west, sunshine and scattered showers in

:47:10.:47:12.

Northern Ireland and Scotland. Temperatures up to 12 even 16

:47:13.:47:21.

Celsius. On Sunday, not quite as mild. A slightly fresher feel to the

:47:22.:47:27.

weather. Some showers in North and north-west parts. Further south and

:47:28.:47:33.

east, remaining dry and bright. Looking ahead towards Christmas

:47:34.:47:37.

week, the festive outlook looks like we will keep mild weather in many

:47:38.:47:42.

parts of the country. There will be further rain and breezy at times.

:47:43.:47:47.

But foremost, a white is pretty unlikely.

:47:48.:47:49.

Hello, it's Friday, it's ten o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling.

:47:50.:47:52.

Welcome to the programme if you've just joined us.

:47:53.:47:54.

More than 100,000 people are currently missing in the UK

:47:55.:47:58.

and although most will return home quickly, some families may never

:47:59.:48:01.

Don't leave it too late on Sunday getting back.

:48:02.:48:18.

We will have a special report and heard from him since.

:48:19.:48:31.

We will have a special report and speak to a woman who disappeared

:48:32.:48:37.

from home for 80 months. -- 18 months.

:48:38.:48:38.

Also on th programme - the end of an era -

:48:39.:48:41.

Britain's last deep coal mine ceases production today -

:48:42.:48:43.

It is their way of life, their dad and grandparents have done it. It is

:48:44.:48:53.

built into them. I would love to see it carry on, but unfortunately, it

:48:54.:48:54.

is not. It's the Strictly

:48:55.:48:57.

final this weekend. We'll be talking to some

:48:58.:48:58.

of the professional dancers An update on the menus. -- main

:48:59.:49:00.

news. David Cameron has said a pathway has

:49:01.:49:18.

been created to help Britain secure a deal to renegotiate

:49:19.:49:21.

its relationship with He said talks at the EU summit

:49:22.:49:23.

in Brussels last night made progress, but it would be "tough"

:49:24.:49:27.

to reach agreement at the next We have taken a big step forward

:49:28.:49:30.

for a better deal for Britain, but there is still a lot

:49:31.:49:34.

of hard work to be done. Energy regulator Ofgem has fined

:49:35.:49:44.

Npower a record twenty six million pounds for failures

:49:45.:49:46.

in the way it billed customers Npower's billing issues affected

:49:47.:49:49.

more than half a million customers between September 2013 and December

:49:50.:49:52.

2014. Prison inspectors have warned

:49:53.:49:54.

that the use of so-called "legal highs" is the biggest threat

:49:55.:49:57.

to safety and security in jails. The Chief Inspector for England

:49:58.:50:02.

and Wales, Nick Hardwick, who's about to leave his post,

:50:03.:50:05.

has criticised the government for being slow to

:50:06.:50:07.

tackle the problem. It is undoubtedly causing... It has

:50:08.:50:17.

led to death because of health effects. It is leading to serious

:50:18.:50:23.

levels of islands against staff and prisoners and it is moving out into

:50:24.:50:27.

the community, the families of prisoners who have to pay off debt

:50:28.:50:30.

sometimes and into the communities who suffer from the crime gangs

:50:31.:50:34.

behind this, you are getting rich on the profits to be made in this

:50:35.:50:35.

trade. Production at Britain's last deep

:50:36.:50:37.

coal mine will end at lunchtime today, with 450 people

:50:38.:50:39.

set to lose their jobs. UK Coal, which owns Kellingley

:50:40.:50:43.

Colliery in North Yorkshire, blames competition

:50:44.:50:45.

from cheap coal imports. The National Union of Mineworkers

:50:46.:50:48.

has described it as a sad day. Pope Francis is reported to have

:50:49.:50:56.

recognised a second miracle attributed to Mother Teresa,

:50:57.:51:02.

clearing the way for the nun to be A Catholic newspaper said

:51:03.:51:05.

the miracle involved the inexplicable healing

:51:06.:51:08.

of a Brazilian man with Mother Teresa was beatified -

:51:09.:51:10.

the first step towards sainthood - Prince George will begin to attend

:51:11.:51:14.

the Westacre Montessori School Nursery in Norfolk before

:51:15.:51:20.

the end of January. The Westacre Montessori Nursery have

:51:21.:51:23.

said: "We are looking forward to welcoming George to our nursery

:51:24.:51:25.

where he will get the same special A family photograph taken in October

:51:26.:51:28.

has also been released. We can now get the latest on Jose

:51:29.:51:42.

Mourinho colour all over the papers. A brutal end, stuffed, a few of the

:51:43.:51:49.

headlines from the papers, both front and back pages. Some

:51:50.:51:54.

suggesting it was an incident with the former club doctor set off his

:51:55.:52:00.

downfall. Chelsea are one point outside the relegation zone after

:52:01.:52:04.

nine defeats in 16 Premier League matches but they won the title by

:52:05.:52:08.

eight points last season. Who will replace him, what has been going on?

:52:09.:52:12.

We can put those questions to our reporter. Guus Hiddink, a strong

:52:13.:52:19.

rumour he will at least fill in at Stamford Bridge. Do we know anything

:52:20.:52:24.

more? Reports this morning are widespread that Guus Hiddink is set

:52:25.:52:29.

to be in caretaker charge until the end of the season. Some I have

:52:30.:52:33.

spoken to in the Netherlands say he is on his way or even potentially in

:52:34.:52:39.

London. We have not been able to stand up entirely. Those I spoke to

:52:40.:52:44.

at Chelsea refused to confirm anything, but these reports are

:52:45.:52:48.

widespread. If you looked overnight at the Australian football

:52:49.:52:53.

Federation website, they released something that said Guus Hiddink has

:52:54.:52:59.

taken temporary charge of struggling Chelsea after the club announced

:53:00.:53:02.

they sacked Jose Mourinho, following the club's disastrous run. They

:53:03.:53:09.

announced on the Twitter feed, our former boss has taken charge of

:53:10.:53:15.

Chelsea FC. The tweet was later deleted and the website story, as

:53:16.:53:21.

well. Confusion, but not many other names in the frame. Early in the

:53:22.:53:25.

week, row mosque, formerly of top Ramos, and possibly Pep Guardiola of

:53:26.:53:41.

Bayern Munich. All Carlo Ancelotti, who has managed Chelsea before. What

:53:42.:53:48.

about Jose Mourinho? It has come as a shock to many. Was it his fault,

:53:49.:53:58.

was it the players'? Not many have come out in support. Cesc Fabregas

:53:59.:54:03.

offered his support. Very quickly after Jose Mourinho was sacked.

:54:04.:54:08.

There were reports that Fabregas and Jose Mourinho had perhaps fallen

:54:09.:54:12.

out, perhaps Fabregas was the source of dressing room leaks. I spoke to a

:54:13.:54:17.

source close to the player who refutes that. John Terry took to

:54:18.:54:21.

social media and said thank you does not seem enough, a sad day, going to

:54:22.:54:26.

miss you boss, the best I have worked with. Unbelievable memories.

:54:27.:54:32.

They were together at Chelsea over the two spells as manager by Jose

:54:33.:54:36.

Mourinho, but he is gone and Chelsea are looking for a new manager. That

:54:37.:54:42.

is all the sport but we will be back with the headlines just after

:54:43.:54:43.

10:30am. Thank you for joining us this

:54:44.:54:50.

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:55:08.:55:11.

'Victoria Derbyshire'. There are more than 130,000 people

:55:12.:55:13.

now recorded as missing by police, according to new figures

:55:14.:55:16.

seen by this programme. Most those who disappear

:55:17.:55:25.

will return home quickly - normally

:55:26.:55:27.

within in a week. But a small proportion - around 1% -

:55:28.:55:28.

are still not found a year later. When someone disappears the first

:55:29.:55:32.

job of the police and other authorities is to make

:55:33.:55:34.

sure they're safe. It's thought there are

:55:35.:55:36.

15,000 families in the UK who are still trying

:55:37.:55:40.

to find their loved ones more than twelve months

:55:41.:55:42.

after they first vanished. Jim Reed has been speaking

:55:43.:55:44.

to some of them. Every two minutes, someone

:55:45.:55:46.

is recorded missing. 95% are found safe and

:55:47.:55:50.

well within 48 hours. But around 2500 people each year

:55:51.:55:55.

are still missing 12 months later. He said "I'm going to mates

:55:56.:56:03.

at Mile End for the weekend" and he said he would be back

:56:04.:56:06.

on Sunday because he has On Thursday evening,

:56:07.:56:09.

the 8th of April... No-one has seen or

:56:10.:56:12.

heard from him since. Five years ago, Matthew Green,

:56:13.:56:24.

on the right, vanished from his home His bedroom hasn't been

:56:25.:56:27.

touched since that day. The last two years of been hell and

:56:28.:56:54.

people say I am a strong person and I think you don't know me. I did 30

:56:55.:56:59.

years plus in the Kent Fire and Rescue Service. I resolved a lot of

:57:00.:57:07.

problems for different people. The hardest thing I feel, I cannot

:57:08.:57:12.

resolve this. It will not go away until we find him.

:57:13.:57:17.

If someone dies in traumatic circumstances there is support

:57:18.:57:19.

for the family and however hard, there is a resolution.

:57:20.:57:21.

The families of the missing don't always get the same attention

:57:22.:57:24.

from the media, local authorities, or the police.

:57:25.:57:36.

It is hard to move on. People will say how can I go out, go on holiday,

:57:37.:57:45.

move house? Even years later, what if they come back? In a handful of

:57:46.:57:51.

cases there is no resolution. No hint of what happened. Full of life.

:57:52.:57:55.

She did not like restrictions and being told what to do. Mary Flanagan

:57:56.:58:00.

is the oldest missing persons case in the history of the Met police,

:58:01.:58:05.

leaving home at 16 on New Year's Eve 1959 and was never seen again. She

:58:06.:58:10.

worked at the giant Tate Lyle sugar for -- refinery.

:58:11.:58:24.

The next morning, they have the shock of their life, she had not

:58:25.:58:31.

been to work for two weeks. Police searched the National Insurance

:58:32.:58:34.

database and Mary's number has never been used. In 2013 the case was

:58:35.:58:38.

reopened and newspaper articles written, but nothing. It is still

:58:39.:58:44.

raw. Especially at special times of the year.

:58:45.:58:54.

Time is getting on, we are getting older, you know.

:58:55.:58:56.

Something has to happen before it's too late for any of us.

:58:57.:58:59.

Mary Flanagan may be unique but there are thousands of other

:59:00.:59:02.

people missing in the UK for a year or more.

:59:03.:59:04.

Every one of those cases is life changing, not just for the person

:59:05.:59:07.

who disappeared but for the families left behind.

:59:08.:59:09.

So what about the people who go missing?

:59:10.:59:11.

What makes someone walk out of their own life?

:59:12.:59:13.

We can speak now to Shelley MacKenney, who's in Birmingham,

:59:14.:59:16.

and who went missing when she was 22 for 18 months.

:59:17.:59:21.

Prof Hester Parr joins us from Scotland.

:59:22.:59:23.

She's running a research project looking at why people walk out

:59:24.:59:26.

of their lives, and what happens when they're away.

:59:27.:59:28.

She's spoken to dozens who've disappeared.

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And here in the studio is Colin Sutton, a former senior

:59:30.:59:32.

investigating officer for the Met Police who has worked

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on many missing persons investigations.

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Thank you for joining us. You went missing because you got into debt

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and lost your job. Things were bad, but what made you think going

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missing was the answer? I didn't think it through. It wasn't

:59:50.:00:00.

premeditated. It was more like... When I was in the process of losing

:00:01.:00:06.

my job, in debt, I was under a lot of stress and I was finding it hard

:00:07.:00:10.

to cope. I didn't talk to anyone. It was a build-up of emotions and I

:00:11.:00:16.

felt very down and angry and guilty. It was a mixture of emotions. It

:00:17.:00:22.

went on for so long, by the time I actually left, it wasn't like a

:00:23.:00:28.

choice, something had snapped in my head, something clicked and I

:00:29.:00:34.

thought, I'm going, I'm leaving. Then it was a case of, I need to get

:00:35.:00:38.

away as fast as possible. This happened in the space of an hour one

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morning. I didn't take anything happened in the space of an hour one

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me, I didn't plan, I just got into a cab, went to the coach station and

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asked for the next train leaving. She asked me where I wanted to go

:00:52.:00:55.

and I said, anywhere. I didn't think of anything else, where I'm going to

:00:56.:01:01.

stay. I didn't plan the day ahead, I literally decided I wanted to go

:01:02.:01:07.

then and there. You were effectively walking into a void, how scary was

:01:08.:01:16.

that? It wasn't a fear as much. I had dealt with so much. Actually I

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didn't steal, that's the wrong way of saying it, I didn't deal with my

:01:24.:01:27.

problems. I just wanted a way out. So that way out seemed such a better

:01:28.:01:33.

option than anything I had to fear of the future. What happened after

:01:34.:01:41.

that? Did you feel liberated? It was a very weird sensation. When I got

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onto the coach, and that point, my emotions switched off, everything

:01:50.:01:53.

switched off. I'd Ashley reached the point of not feeling any more after

:01:54.:01:56.

the months of being depressed and unable to cope. By the time I got on

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the coach, when I got off, the girl I was before was dead, I wasn't

:02:03.:02:06.

surely any more, I was a different person. -- Shelley. I reacted

:02:07.:02:14.

differently to how I was normally. So what was life like? There was a

:02:15.:02:21.

sense of freedom, but I don't want to say that in a positive way. It

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was more like post-traumatic stress disorder. I was actually diagnosed

:02:29.:02:34.

with that. It's like I had no restraint any more, no

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responsibilities, no bills to pay, no one to answer to. If I did

:02:38.:02:41.

anything wrong, I wasn't letting anybody else down. There was a sense

:02:42.:02:47.

of freedom in that. It's dangerous as well because although I didn't

:02:48.:02:50.

care about anything I didn't care about myself either, didn't care if

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I was attacked, walking down a dark alley, I had given up on life

:02:57.:03:01.

effectively. It was just living from day to day. How did you live from

:03:02.:03:06.

day to day? Where were you getting everything you needed to live from?

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As I left with nothing, I left as I was, I spent a couple of days just

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exploring my surroundings, which was Birmingham, finding out where

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everything was. I slept rough. The next day, I thought I need to find

:03:22.:03:27.

somewhere that I can state properly because it's very dangerous, you

:03:28.:03:30.

know, being a young girl on the streets. I got in contact with

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Shelter and they got in contact with a hostel where I could stay. I went

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to the hostel and they said I needed to sign on. Up until then I had

:03:42.:03:46.

always worked and I didn't know anything about signing on. I went to

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the job centre. I told them the truth and they said to me that I

:03:52.:03:55.

wasn't entitled to any benefits because I'd lost my job, and the way

:03:56.:04:01.

in which I lost my job. So I had to wait for six weeks. I tried getting

:04:02.:04:07.

a job instead. I went from the job centre and I found a job on the same

:04:08.:04:12.

day. When I went back to the hostel they told me I wasn't allowed to

:04:13.:04:18.

work. It was manned 24 hours a day, the rent would be ?400 a week, so

:04:19.:04:23.

effectively I had to leave the job as well. I had no money at all

:04:24.:04:28.

coming in. That's when I had to turn to waste, things are not proud of --

:04:29.:04:34.

ways. Things I wouldn't want to do again, including Corning, stealing,

:04:35.:04:41.

surviving from day to day. -- conning people. Were you looking

:04:42.:04:48.

back and missing the people and life you had left behind, and were you

:04:49.:04:51.

aware of how much they would be missing you? When I actually had my

:04:52.:05:02.

break, might mental break, I mean, and I left, I was convinced, I felt

:05:03.:05:06.

so bad about myself as a person, I was convinced they were better off

:05:07.:05:10.

without me. I was convinced they would hate me for the mistakes I

:05:11.:05:14.

made, getting into debt, the thought of losing the house. And I thought I

:05:15.:05:21.

was doing them a favour. I thought that their lives would be better if

:05:22.:05:26.

I wasn't there. I thought they hated me as much as I hated myself. So no,

:05:27.:05:34.

I didn't think I wanted that life back because I didn't think I was

:05:35.:05:38.

entitled to it. I felt so bad within myself that I didn't even think I

:05:39.:05:43.

was entitled to survive. Anything I did I felt like I deserved. So you

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would run for 18 months, what's changed over that period that made

:05:50.:05:52.

you decide to turn around and go back? Well, being a missing person

:05:53.:05:59.

is very hard. Society is always trying to pull you in. You have a

:06:00.:06:04.

national insurance number, jobs, social, so you have to live under

:06:05.:06:08.

the radar, which meets sleeping rough, hanging around with people

:06:09.:06:16.

who don't necessarily conform to society. I did this for 6-9 months.

:06:17.:06:21.

But the change came when I became pregnant. When I became pregnant,

:06:22.:06:30.

the emotional effect on me, I wanted to be a good mother, I wanted to

:06:31.:06:34.

give my daughter a good start. I looked around me and I couldn't do

:06:35.:06:38.

that with what I was doing, how I was living, not eating, running out

:06:39.:06:44.

of restaurants and stealing. I couldn't do that and the people I

:06:45.:06:47.

was mixing with, I couldn't give her the best chance. That's when I woke

:06:48.:06:55.

up and thought I needed to change this and address the issue. The love

:06:56.:07:00.

of her was greater than my fear of what I had become. It was more than

:07:01.:07:07.

that. I went to the doctors and for the first time in a long time I told

:07:08.:07:11.

them everything, I poured my heart out about how I felt, everything

:07:12.:07:16.

that caused it, being in debt, and they recommended that I go into

:07:17.:07:21.

counselling. What was the first contact you had with someone you had

:07:22.:07:25.

left behind was to mark what was it like? I went into counselling for

:07:26.:07:33.

ten months. I still didn't contact my family. It was a long time and it

:07:34.:07:37.

wasn't until my daughter was four sold that I received a letter in the

:07:38.:07:42.

post from the Salvation Army -- four sold. They track down people and

:07:43.:07:49.

they sent a letter to the Department for Work and Pensions and it is

:07:50.:07:51.

redirected to anybody with that number. I received the letter, it

:07:52.:07:59.

had been 18 months now. After the counselling, evaluating my life, I

:08:00.:08:03.

felt strong enough to face might now and, the woman who raised me. -- to

:08:04.:08:12.

face my Nan. I faced up to the mistakes I've made. Speaking to her

:08:13.:08:16.

for the first time was the hardest thing I've ever done. It was harder

:08:17.:08:22.

than walking away. I was running away from everything but this meant

:08:23.:08:30.

going back and facing everything. It was so scary, I was scared that they

:08:31.:08:34.

would hate me and would tell me that they hated me. I was scared of the

:08:35.:08:41.

recriminations coming back to me. But she didn't, she was lovely. She

:08:42.:08:48.

was crying. She just wanted to know I was OK. And if I'd been OK. And

:08:49.:08:57.

how I survived, really. Esther, listening to Shelley, people out

:08:58.:09:04.

there who are still living, but are invisible to the people who love

:09:05.:09:07.

them and have lost them, what are the reasons you have found behind

:09:08.:09:12.

situations like hers, from the people you spoken to? Quite a lot

:09:13.:09:18.

like Shelley, many people feel a sense of frustration, may be dealing

:09:19.:09:23.

with a major difficulty in the life, be it debt, drug addiction, alcohol

:09:24.:09:28.

problems. 80% of missing people have mental health problems and that was

:09:29.:09:35.

the case in our research. And these issues that may be haven't been

:09:36.:09:40.

dealt with, people not receiving any help or intervention to help them

:09:41.:09:43.

deal with the interventions caused the build-up of frustration that

:09:44.:09:47.

Shelley talked about. Causing them to take the step out the door,

:09:48.:09:55.

embarking on what we call a crisis mobility. Paul, the police will get

:09:56.:09:59.

involved when those left behind have no idea what's happened. How quickly

:10:00.:10:04.

can the police ascertained that someone is still alive, but has gone

:10:05.:10:09.

off their own accord? Quite quickly these days because there is a

:10:10.:10:12.

digital footprint and so much bureaucracy, that we heard about in

:10:13.:10:20.

Shelley's moving tale. The police have to make sure that people are

:10:21.:10:24.

safe, that's the first priority, to see if someone is safe. It isn't

:10:25.:10:27.

about tracking them down because that's the wrong thing to do. The

:10:28.:10:34.

absolute priority is trying to find out people are safe and that's what

:10:35.:10:39.

the people left at home wants to know, isn't it? So then you let them

:10:40.:10:44.

know, so they know that the person has gone because they wanted to and

:10:45.:10:49.

then they can't find them? Yes, if the person is an adult and wants to

:10:50.:10:54.

go away, then the police would say yes, we've ascertained that they are

:10:55.:10:58.

safe, we know where they are, but unfortunately they don't want you to

:10:59.:11:01.

know and we are not going to tell you where they are, only that they

:11:02.:11:04.

are safe and you don't have to worry. What goes on after that is a

:11:05.:11:12.

matter for the internal family. It is not the police's point to

:11:13.:11:15.

intervene and tell people where they can find loved ones if they don't

:11:16.:11:20.

want to be found. We heard in the report how people caught up in that

:11:21.:11:26.

situation find it almost impossible to move on because they are thinking

:11:27.:11:30.

that they can't move house, what if the person tries to contact them at

:11:31.:11:34.

that moment when they are not there for them? Yeah, absolutely. In the

:11:35.:11:42.

research study we also contacted families of missing people. We spoke

:11:43.:11:47.

to 25 families of missing people who described that sense of limbo, being

:11:48.:11:50.

trapped in a situation, for ever waiting for news. Being very

:11:51.:11:56.

dependent on the police service for giving them regular, detailed

:11:57.:11:59.

updates for the search efforts they are undertaking so they can

:12:00.:12:03.

coordinate that with their own search effort. What we found is that

:12:04.:12:08.

many families actually put in place their own search strategy and never

:12:09.:12:16.

stop looking. If anyone is watching the programme, Shelley, affected by

:12:17.:12:19.

this, whether it is somebody missing, what would you say to them?

:12:20.:12:26.

I think when you are missing, it's very easy to put obstacles in your

:12:27.:12:30.

way. It is easy to build up a wall. Why comments myself that everyone

:12:31.:12:34.

would be better without me but you need to know that you can go back.

:12:35.:12:41.

Not necessarily straight back because that's quite scary, the

:12:42.:12:44.

thought of going back into the situation you escaped from his

:12:45.:12:51.

scary, but you can make initial contact. When I made contact it was

:12:52.:12:57.

very subtle, I couldn't do it straightaway, it took months of

:12:58.:13:01.

talking here and there on the phone. I wrote my book to tell people that

:13:02.:13:06.

there is a way back. And I would say a lot of missing people probably

:13:07.:13:11.

want to get in contact with family but they are too scared. You can do

:13:12.:13:18.

it. I sought help in the way of counselling, to build myself up to

:13:19.:13:22.

be strong enough to do that. I would say, talk to someone, talk to your

:13:23.:13:27.

doctor, the Samaritans, there are people who can help you. You can

:13:28.:13:32.

build something better than you had before. That's what I did. Thank you

:13:33.:13:38.

for joining us. Glenn has said while, Shelley, explaining things in

:13:39.:13:42.

a way that I've never been able to, well done for doing that on TV.

:13:43.:13:46.

Thank you for sharing your experience -- wow. Get in touch if

:13:47.:13:52.

you are affected by any of the issues we were discussing.

:13:53.:13:55.

A fault in an online form may have led to thousands of divorce

:13:56.:13:58.

settlements in England and Wales being calculated incorrectly.

:13:59.:14:00.

The error on the Ministry of Justice website has been there since April

:14:01.:14:03.

2014 but has only just been uncovered.

:14:04.:14:04.

Nicola Matheson-Durrant works in family law and she discovered

:14:05.:14:07.

A client of mine, Ken, was sent away by me to go and type up his form E,

:14:08.:14:23.

which he was downloading from the mystery of Justice website. He came

:14:24.:14:26.

back frustrated, planing about the figures coming into the box which

:14:27.:14:30.

weren't accurate and he wanted me to check it out -- the Ministry of

:14:31.:14:35.

Justice. I couldn't make it work and I checked the form online on several

:14:36.:14:40.

occasions to see if I could make them work, only to discover that it

:14:41.:14:44.

was absolutely impossible, so there must be a software fault.

:14:45.:14:46.

Our legal eagle Clive Coleman is here.

:14:47.:14:50.

What impact has this had? This is an extraordinary story. You have to

:14:51.:15:10.

fill out a long form and at one point it tries to calculate your net

:15:11.:15:16.

wealth so the court has accurate figures to negotiate with. It looks

:15:17.:15:20.

at your assets and liabilities. In one box it should subtract your

:15:21.:15:25.

debts from your assets. What was happening was it was not doing that.

:15:26.:15:32.

Let's say you are worth half ?1 million but have ?100,000 in debt

:15:33.:15:35.

your net worth is ?400,000, but it was telling you the net worth was

:15:36.:15:40.

half ?1 million. You might think a lot of people would pick that up,

:15:41.:15:45.

but when you are getting divorced, you are upset, financially you are

:15:46.:15:50.

concerned, and you rely on government software. It may be these

:15:51.:15:54.

things were overlooked. We know around 20,000 of these forms were

:15:55.:15:59.

downloaded in the period when this glitch took place. Taking place from

:16:00.:16:05.

April 20 14. It has been fixed. The Ministry of Justice say they are

:16:06.:16:08.

looking into the matter and seeking to contact anyone and firstly

:16:09.:16:13.

affected. On our website there is an e-mail address for people to contact

:16:14.:16:17.

the ministry if they feel they have been affected, but what it means is,

:16:18.:16:22.

if it was not picked up and corrected, divorce settlements would

:16:23.:16:27.

have been agreed and approved, determined by the court, on the

:16:28.:16:31.

basis of unfair figures. Potentially a headache. It really years for some

:16:32.:16:37.

people affected, this will be an unpleasant Christmas present.

:16:38.:16:40.

Thanks for joining us today - still to come before 11.

:16:41.:16:46.

And it's the Strictly final this weekened.

:16:47.:16:47.

We'll talk live to some of the professional dancers

:16:48.:16:50.

David Cameron has said a pathway has been created to help Britain secure

:16:51.:16:58.

a deal to renegotiate its relationship with

:16:59.:17:00.

He said talks at the EU summit in Brussels last night made

:17:01.:17:06.

progress, but it would be "tough" to reach agreement at the next

:17:07.:17:09.

The prison officers association has told the programme three prison

:17:10.:17:21.

officers were taken to hospital after breathing in fumes from

:17:22.:17:27.

so-called legal highs, the incident happened at Durham prison and is the

:17:28.:17:32.

second time in the last two weeks it has happened. It comes as the

:17:33.:17:36.

warning comes that legal highs of the biggest threat to security in

:17:37.:17:48.

prison. At Durham prison yesterday, three prison -- prisoners were taken

:17:49.:17:53.

to hospital, because of the effects of breathing it in. They were kept

:17:54.:17:57.

in hospital for observation is because the heart rate was up and it

:17:58.:17:59.

was causing problems medically. The Vatican has confirmed mother to

:18:00.:18:10.

raise is to be made a saint. It is said Pope Francis cleared the way

:18:11.:18:16.

for canonisation by recognising a second miracle attributed to her.

:18:17.:18:18.

Believed to have involved the healing of a Brazilian man with

:18:19.:18:20.

brain tumours. Prince George is to start

:18:21.:18:22.

nursery next month. The Westacre Montessori Nursery

:18:23.:18:24.

in Norfolk says it's looking forward to welcoming George and he'll get

:18:25.:18:27.

the same "special experience" A family photograph taken

:18:28.:18:29.

in October, of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge with their children has

:18:30.:18:33.

also been released. Imagine the clamour for people

:18:34.:18:47.

trying to join that nursery! 1-storey dominating in sport, Jose

:18:48.:18:50.

Mourinho. Is it true he will be paid if he does not get another job?

:18:51.:19:00.

Whenever a manager loses his job, there is always something about the

:19:01.:19:03.

contract, we do not know the size of the severance package but he will

:19:04.:19:06.

contract, we do not know the size of paid to be at the season, that is

:19:07.:19:09.

normal. John Terry said he is the best he worked with at Chelsea say

:19:10.:19:13.

there was discord between Jose Mourinho and players, which was the

:19:14.:19:17.

reason he was sacked from the club a second time. Chelsea one point

:19:18.:19:21.

outside the relegation zone after nine defeats in 17 matches with Guus

:19:22.:19:27.

Hiddink the favourite to take over, and he managed Chelsea in 2009 and

:19:28.:19:33.

led them to FA Cup victory. He is likely to be taking over in the

:19:34.:19:39.

interim. The suspended Uefa president Michel Platini has had his

:19:40.:19:44.

case heard by the Fifa ethics committee. He boycotted the hearing

:19:45.:19:49.

saying the outcome was already decided. Fifa president Sepp Blatter

:19:50.:19:54.

appeared yesterday. And early day, wife of golfer Jason, found herself

:19:55.:19:57.

an unfortunate part of the action when basketball player LeBron James

:19:58.:20:06.

landed on her in a Cleveland Cavaliers game. She is reported to

:20:07.:20:14.

be fine. After the game, the coach asked the NBA to look at courtside

:20:15.:20:20.

safety. We have had an incredible response to the interview I did with

:20:21.:20:25.

Shelley, who was describing why she went missing. She was missing 18

:20:26.:20:30.

months and talked us through her experiences up to being reunited

:20:31.:20:35.

with her family. Victoria said it was a wonderful and insightful

:20:36.:20:39.

account of the life of a missing person and thought processes

:20:40.:20:44.

involved. Michelle said, this is a wonderful programme, listening to

:20:45.:20:48.

the lady's story. Nick said it was an amazing story from Shelley. Dean

:20:49.:20:58.

said he recognised her feelings as his own and he is glad she has

:20:59.:21:02.

turned things around. Keep your comments on everything we are

:21:03.:21:10.

talking about coming in. Today is the last show before we go off air

:21:11.:21:14.

over the festive season. We thought it would be the perfect time to

:21:15.:21:15.

bring memorable moments. In September, we spoke

:21:16.:21:26.

to Victoria Balch, a victim of a rollercoaster

:21:27.:21:28.

crash at Alton Towers. She told us that, having had six

:21:29.:21:30.

rounds of surgery in a bid to save her leg, it was a relief

:21:31.:21:33.

to have it amputated. Through the operations, and there

:21:34.:21:39.

were more than six, you were thinking, we are going to save it,

:21:40.:21:42.

the medical staff were thinking that. Yes, they were. They were

:21:43.:21:50.

amazing. They wanted to save it. They thought it would be better to

:21:51.:21:58.

save it. I have a fracture as well. If they amputated straightaway and I

:21:59.:22:02.

said yes, amputate it, because the question from day one was, I am

:22:03.:22:07.

sorry, you will have to make the decision whether you amputate or

:22:08.:22:11.

not. I could not make that decision. I don't think anyone really can stop

:22:12.:22:17.

he said if you amputate, it will be here. Then it would be a short stump

:22:18.:22:22.

because I have a fracture around here that was quite bad. And so I

:22:23.:22:29.

didn't. I did not want to amputate. I could not say yes and I could not

:22:30.:22:35.

say no. I think, in the end, getting an infection made the decision for

:22:36.:22:45.

you. Yes, it did. Operation after operation, it was looking like they

:22:46.:22:48.

could save it and I would be able to walk again. In the beginning, before

:22:49.:22:53.

I had an infection, I was walking with a frame, with crutches, on my

:22:54.:22:57.

own, it was looking good. I was seeing a light at the end of the

:22:58.:23:03.

tunnel. I was sleeping about three days in a row. I did not feel

:23:04.:23:13.

myself. I had my friends there. I just slept. I could not speak to

:23:14.:23:19.

them or do anything. Obviously, you realise something is not right. I

:23:20.:23:24.

told the surgeon and they said if there is sign of infection, would

:23:25.:23:31.

you sign for me to amputate? I said yes, because I could not do anything

:23:32.:23:36.

myself. I had gone back to... I had to sit down and have someone else

:23:37.:23:42.

holding my leg, another leaning on me, it was horrible. When your leg

:23:43.:23:46.

had been amputated, what will your initial emotions? My mum and a nurse

:23:47.:23:53.

was there. Mum on this side and the nurse there. I knew the nurse quite

:23:54.:23:58.

well. I was in so long I got to know them well. They looked at me and

:23:59.:24:06.

they were upset. I got upset and was thinking, why am I upset? I looked

:24:07.:24:13.

at my leg. It was a relief not to have it there. But eventually, I

:24:14.:24:18.

would be able to walk again with a prosthetic.

:24:19.:24:22.

And throughout Christmas watch our for special programmes

:24:23.:24:24.

from Victoria looking back at our exclusive

:24:25.:24:25.

You can see the first part of that on the BBC News Channel on Monday

:24:26.:24:30.

Today the last tonnes of coal will be brought out

:24:31.:24:41.

Today the last tonnes of coal will be brought out of Kellingley

:24:42.:24:44.

coal mine, near Pontefract in West Yorkshire.

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The mine closes today with the loss of 450 jobs,

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signalling the end of deep pit coal mining in Britain.

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Dan Johnson is there for us this morning.

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It is a sad day for people not just mourning the loss of 450 jobs, but

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in industry and way of life with history behind it. Coal was

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influential in the Industrial Revolution, fuelling factories,

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powering steamships that went around the world and helped Britain build

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its empire. It kept the lights on, generating electricity, keeping us

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warm at home, and it was the basis for communities built around these

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pits. The loss of this today is marked as a significant moment.

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There was a prospect of the miners moving out quietly with not much

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being said but a couple of their wives decided to change that and

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market properly. I have spoken to them about why it was needed. We

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thought it was important we have closure, this is the end but it

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gives an opportunity to catch up with friends and say goodbye. Do you

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feel the contribution the miners her maid is not properly recognise? It

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is a lack of understanding, unless you are part of the mining

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community, it is not understood as much. I think they can feel

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abandoned at the moment. Disappointed, and disbelief it is

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the last deep coal mine in the country and it is shutting. Why

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should this be marked? It is such a shame it is the last coal mine in

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Britain. We could not just let nothing happens, we had to do

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something for the men to show we care, and the whole community cares

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for them will stop to just walk out of the pit on the last day and

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nothing to be done would be really sad. About 800 men have had that

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happen in the last year. Swiped on, swiped off, that is it, not even a

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goodbye. And many other communities have been hit. What impact does it

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have on an area? It is massive. The local shop is, there will be a big

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impact. A lot of people have moved with the mines and they move over

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here and now there is nothing for them, no jobs to go to, what do they

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do? We talked about moving abroad, but why should we have to move

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abroad for work? It is sad, really. Would you like the industry to carry

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on. It is a tough job. It is but it is their way of life. Their dads

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have done it their grandparents, it is built into them. I would love to

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see it carry on, but unfortunately, it is not. It is hard for the

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demographic. There are a lot of men over 50 and there are not a lot of

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opportunities in that age range. Why is this different from any other

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business that goes bust and has to make people redundant? What is

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special about mining? They are held with affection and regard. It is a

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job no one wants to do but everybody is fascinated by and they have no

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understanding about it so when you meet a miner, it is how do you do

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it, what does it feel like? It is a dying industry. Are you hoping for a

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big turnout? When we got together we were naive and it was going to be

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mates having a walk and a bit of a party and it has got bigger than we

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thought. We did not realise how many people wanted to be involved. It has

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been heartening and what we want is that people turn up with respect and

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kindness and affection and also show the men the dignity they are

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showing, turning up every day this week, when they do not have too but

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they are turning up and going down the mine, they are doing it because

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that is the men they are. If you want a mark of how much the industry

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has meant, there is a memorial that commemorates the 17 men who lost

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their lives in different accidents underground here. That is some of

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the depth of feeling. I am joined by one of the miners, you work on the

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shaft top where the men come off. Tell me your connection. The

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connection has been all my life, everything I have had in my life has

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been paid for by this place. My father sank the shafts in 1959. I

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followed in his footsteps in 1983. I have been asked to stay on to cap

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the shafts. Your dad helped to dig it and you will help to say good

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night. Very poignant, a tough decision to

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make but if I don't do it, it's not going to change the endgame. The

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coal industry is shot in this country and I will take the money

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they offer me to cap the shaft. The UX seven that it isn't economic, it

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is cheaper to bring it in? -- do you accept. I will never accept that, if

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you go back a few years, the government was asked for a ?30

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million loan by UK coal to keep the industry afloat and the government

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said it wasn't good value for money. At the same time that year, the

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government took ?700 million out of the pension scheme. We are asking

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for 5% of that money to put into the industry. David Cameron getting them

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today and spouting about 80 million. Transporting coal is part of our

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energy policy for the next ten years, a lot of it will be burned by

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coal, so what kind of policy is that? Relying on third World

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countries. I will never accept, the government could have hoped for

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small. This place could be producing coal for the next ten years. We have

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the biggest coal power station down the road. What's happened has

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happened. We are not going to save the place now, that's fact. As you

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understand, there is a strength of feeling, some bitterness, some

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understanding and questions about what the future will be 40 minute is

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like this that once relied on these heavy industries. When they've gone,

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what's next? After 12 weeks of quickstepping,

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jiving and tangoing we have our four Kellie Bright, Georgia May Foote,

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Jay McGuiness, Katie Derham and

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and their professional partners will be performing live tomorrow

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night in a bid to impress, us, One of them will be taking home

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the Glitterball Trophy. Here's a reminder of the dances that

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got them into the final. Let's talk now to former

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contestant Russell Grant, professional dancer Ian Waite

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and live at rehearsals at Strictly HQ, professional dancer

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Joanne Clifton. Russell, does that bring back happy

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memories? Always, the happiest time of my life, apart from launching BBC

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breakfast time with Frank and Selina in 1983. I am that old! And then

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doing Strictly, I lost about eight stone. I had lost 11 already and if

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it wasn't for Strictly, I don't know if I would even be here now. It was

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a wonderful, memorable time and I loved every minute. Let's check in

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with HQ, Joanne is there. What's the atmosphere like? Oh my gosh,

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everyone is so excited. We were in the restaurant last night and the

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good thing is, they are so excited, but they are making out, "Whoever

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wins, it will be so nice because we are friends", but at the same time,

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thinking that we need to go to bed early. Your brother has been in the

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final every time on the show, how he feeling? I think he's all right, I

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haven't seen him this morning but last night he was OK he was

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practising with Kellie until 11pm last night. They were so tired. You

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see the camaraderie and people saying they hope each other wins,

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but actually people going for the early night, is it a bit cut-throat

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behind-the-scenes? Not really, everyone gets along, that's what's

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great about this year, everyone is so close, they get along so well.

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They are on a WhatsApp group together, they were saying how it

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doesn't matter who wins, but then going to bed because it's a long day

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tomorrow. How intense is the process? It is 24-7 and because I

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live in North Wales, Snowdonia, used to have to come up on Monday and we

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lost a day of training when travelling between there and London.

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But it is joyous. We had a routine, we did it on the piano Strictly

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cruise, we would start off with a bit of Latin to warm up and

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everything was just joyous, it was music, music, dance, dance. Ian, you

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been in seven series, how do you judge the standard this year? It

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seems to get better every year. This year we've had seven or eight really

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good ones and from the last six you didn't know who was going to go out.

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Some of our best dancers who I thought would make the final, like

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Peter Andre... Sorry, we are a bit distracted! I loved it. We were

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beaten by William and Kate's wedding for the Bafta highlight of the year.

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Can't believe it! It is extraordinary because everyone is so

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good. In the final I expected Jay to be the champion from the beginning,

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but he's not doing his jive in the final and everyone's expecting it

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and wanting it but they are not going to do it. Taking a big risk by

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doing another dance but let's see what happens. Now they are in the

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final, I think they are the right finalists. They've worked really

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hard and the semifinals were brilliant. What do you think? I love

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Jay and his partner, who is a close friend of mine. After that first

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dance, I rang her up and I said, my goodness, you are in the final. And

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Georgia and Giovanni, the waltz that they did, did you enjoy it? Her

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ballroom has transformed her, her Latin isn't as good. You have

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performed in the final, what is it like? A couple of times, it's quite

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hard because when you get to that stage there are fewer people around,

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they are all up in the box. Before you have the camaraderie and they

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are together but as it gets later on, people start disappearing and

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all of a sudden it is empty and there were only three of you left.

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It's an amazing experience and to perform the final in front of

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millions of people is very special. What is the Strictly magic because

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is the most watched programme right now? I think it is watching people

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do something out of their comfort zone, learning a skill and the love

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of performing. Everybody loves to see a performance and music, they

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love music and dance. Light entertainment has died and Strictly

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is alive and kicking, quite literally and that is light

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entertainment. And it can be for two-year-olds, three awards, up to

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100-year-olds, it's for everybody. You say that people are out of their

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comfort zone. Russell, I don't want to be cheeky but some people, more

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out of the comfort zone than others. Is it a level playing field? I

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started off in showbiz, astrology was only ever a hobby. I was drama,

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acting. Not that kind of performance. I did musical theatre

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but you end up doing the quiz boxes. I thought you were a drama queen!

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Takes one to know one! When I went into Strictly I had never done that

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kind of dancing, musical theatre. The two things that really helped

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me, I was 60 years old when I did it, having a great partner, and I

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had read. When you have written you can make it work. -- rhythm. Whether

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you can dance or not it doesn't matter in those costumes, you just

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let! You had very glittery outfits. -- you just

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some people were more beginners than others, does that make it fair? I

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think that the audience recognise that and that's why they vote for

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certain people who come from a non-dancing position. I think is the

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first year we've had a boy, all boys, who have had dance experience,

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Peter Andre and Jay have had dance experience, that is the first time

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we've had it on Strictly and it's nice to see boys who have excelled.

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Joanne, what's it like trying to teach someone who hasn't got much

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rhythm and hasn't danced before? With Scott I just became a ventral

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Quist, I kind of just smiled like this. Is that easy with a bloke, to

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be the ventriloquist? Is it easy for me? Yes, for you to be the

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ventriloquist for a man? Yes, I was just holding onto him and pulling

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and just smiling through my teeth I'm quite an extrovert, as you can

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see. It can only take you so far, can't it? Yes, but look at Jeremy

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Vine for example. He got two week eight and he had no dance experience

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at all but because he tried so hard people loved him for it and it got

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him quite a long way. What makes the best performer, contender for you?

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It is a mixture of different things. You have to have good technique to

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make the final and you have to be a performer at heart. I think you have

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to go out and be able to perform. It's that minute and a half where

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you have to deliver and its week after week. And the standard has two

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stay high. If you are bad one week, like Helen George, you go. She was

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one of our best dancers. The choreography is so important. When

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you consider that my partner won with Louis Smith the year after, a

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gymnast who could do these fabulous moves, that wasn't me. She knew that

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my background was musical theatre so I could perform a seven second

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change into a gold suit. How much say do you have in that? We put our

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heads together, when I was on the ball going backwards and forwards, I

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had the Benny Hill glasses on, so I couldn't see. You come together and

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you come up with a creator and then it works. When I got off the ball, I

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did a reverse, I took off the glasses and saw this beautiful woman

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and then I put the glasses back on, and the story was, you know, it was

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back to front, which is probably my dance! You are obviously game for

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anything. Was there anything where you said no, I'm not doing it? Not

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at all. We were told next week that I would be fired out of a cannon,

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was I up for it and I said of course I am, why should I care, lives

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living. What do you think about the voting, the audience having the

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final say? Should it be like that through the show? I don't know what

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happens in the final. It is all audience. I think they are pretty

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good judge, not always the best dancer wins but it's not always the

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best dance. It balances out. They don't all catch the imagination. The

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public will balance out what the judges want, so you have the 50-50

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things going on where the judges will say one thing, some of them

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going for technique more. We are out of time, folks. Great to have you.

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Getting excited! Made the best contender win. Thank you very much

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and thank you for your company today and through the year.

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