05/02/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

A United Nations panel says Julian Assange should get the right

to compensation - formally ruling that he's been 'arbitrarily

detained' at an embassy where he sought asylum -

but British police say he still faces arrest if he leaves.

Juliana Symes was hoping he could walk out of the embassy after almost

four years. That looks to be very unlikely. -- Julian Assange.

More than 8,000 patients a day are in hospital when they should

A new report into how the NHS in England can save money,

says bed blocking is costing 900 million pounds a year.

After more than a decade the most famous male model in the world

I've been to meet Ben Stiller and his co-star Owen Wilson ahead

Derek existed before the selfie, he predated it. He invented it except

there was not a phone or a Cammarata take it. He invented the look.

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Developing story to bring you this morning: A United Nations panel has

in the last hour confirmed its ruling that the Wikileaks

founder Julian Assange has been what it calls arbitrarily detained.

And it calls for him to be given the right to compensation

Mr Assange voluntarily entered the Ecuadorean embassy in London

in 2012, seeking to avoid extradition to Sweden where he's

wanted for questioning over a rape allegation.

Police say he'll be arrested if he leaves the building.

The UN panel has called on the UK and Sweden to end his supposed

Downing Street has said the ruling has no legal force and in the last

few moments we've heard the UK will contest the decision.

The Swedish government says he is free to leave the embassy

It's the latest twist in a long drama that has kept

We have seen the distortion of evidence and facts by prosecuting

authorities in Sweden, revealed at my new detail throughout

Under our law, with Mr Assange having exhausted all options

of appeal, the British authorities are under a binding obligation

We must carry out that obligation and of course we fully intend

As WikiLeaks stands under threat, so does the freedom of expression

I ask President Obama to do the right thing.

The United States must renounce its witchhunt

He has told the people of the world and the United States

that there is mass unlawful interception of their

It is hard in there without the air and the sunlight, without any

It is a story developing this morning. We are expecting to hear

from the people speaking on behalf of the United Nations in Geneva.

Let's talk to a lawyer for Julian Assange who worked on petitioning

the United Nations. Thank you for joining us. The UK and Swedish

governments say that he is not arbitrarily detained. He went in off

his own accord. Thank you for having me. I would like to clarify. The

asylum Julian Assange received is about an ongoing case against him

and his website for publishing activities in the United States. It

does not have anything to do with Sweden or even the UK. That is

instrumental. The United States has not made an extradition request for

him to be sent to the United States. Federal court documents confirm

there is an ongoing case against Julian Assange, and numerous sources

indicate that in similar cases such as Edward Snowden, when it comes to

these planning is... Sweden has said before he would not face being sent

to a country where he faces the death penalty. To this day, neither

Sweden or the UK have offered this. There is an attempt to prosecute him

for publishing activities. The UN said it is based on the possibility

of extradition and should have been given consideration. The UN

admonished both states for not taking into account the

determination of Ecuador, and they noted that both the UK and Sweden

have recognised a silent on humanitarian grounds in similar

cases. What we are talking about now is the idea of detention. It exists

when your only choice is between confinement and risking persecution.

That is precisely the case. This, specifically, there is no

extradition request from the united states. It boils down to an

allegation of rape outstanding in Sweden. The UK Government points out

there is an allegation and a European Arrest Warrant in place and

they have a legal obligation to extradite him to Sweden. He took the

decision to avoid that by going into the embassy. As a matter of

international law, the European Convention on human rights simply

disagrees with that view. Outstanding extradition requests are

not a requirement, both Sweden and the UK have an independent legal

obligation to assess whether an individual would face a risk of

onward persecution, that would violate the rights of Julian

Assange. The UN has said he should get compensation from Sweden in the

UK. Is that something he will pursue? Absolutely, our lawyers are

reviewing this. That is breaking news. It came out in the last hour.

This UN body is the highest authority on detention in the world.

This is the process in which an independent investigation, both the

UK and Sweden participated in it and all the evidence was considered. It

would surprise me if either state decides to challenge the outcome.

This authority is relied upon, and they are detained as well. Will he

walk out of the embassy? The only way that Julian Assange can have

freedom of movement is to go to a hospital, with sufficient guarantees

that his asylum would be respected. That is at the core of this case. So

far, the process has not taken that into account. That is the core of

this case. I might add that under the procedures of the working group

there are very narrow grounds for appeal but they required new fact

that did not exist at the time of the case. The only new fact that

exists is the fact that the UK lost this case. That would be grounds to

appeal and we would encourage both governments to implement this

decision. Coming up, thousands of would-be codebreakers had a crack at

it but nobody cracked GCHQ's puzzle. Now, next.

How cheap does a shop need to be, to make a cut-price supermarket

Well the answer could lie in west London, where a new supermarket has

Pizza, tuna, tea, biscuits - it's all the same.

It's the brainchild of Sir Stelios Haji-Ioannou,

the founder of Easyjet - and he's calling this venture -

And the store has proved so popular it was forced to shut.

Today it re-opens - and our reporter Ashley John-Baptiste is there.

It opens again and a reporter is there. It looks more like a

storeroom than a supermarket but is proving popular. Tell us what it is

like. Here I am at the EasyFood store which officially opened this

week. It is basically a small grocery store selling staple food

items. What it does not sell is fresh produce. For the month of

February, everything in this shop costs 25p. It opened on Monday but

it closed yesterday because it ran out of stock. Since the doors have

opened it has been bursting at the seams with customers. I saw the

queue before it opens and there was a sense of excitement and consumer

energy and bars. Very exciting time for the customers. However, the

store only sells 76 items, compared with your average supermarket which

sells 70,000. I've been told that prices will increase next month to

50p and will be re-addressed there on. Everybody is hungry, we want to

take a little challenge. Go and buy something for breakfast, coffee,

tea, biscuits, but just to make it harder we want you to go to some

other supermarkets to compare prices. Are you up for that?

Absolutely, I'd already bought you five items. We've got coffee, 25p,

serial, biscuits. I will do that at the other supermarkets and compare

prices with you. We will see you later. Thank you for joining us

today. Still to come, more than 2000 instances of female genital

mutilation were reported in England last year. Why have the body ever

been convicted? Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson tell me about being back on

the catwalk in Zoolander two. Let's bring you up-to-date with the main

news this morning. I'd UN panel says Julius -- Julian Assange has been

arbitrarily detained and should get compensation. The NHS in England

could save billions every year. A review has found they could save

?900 million by getting people out of hospital more quickly. Lord

Carter has done a report in which he found nearly one in ten beds was

taken by someone well enough to be released. David Cameron is trying to

win support in his plans for EU reform. He faces growing pressure at

home as a new survey suggests more Britons want to leave than stay in

the EU. Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have clashed in a debate.

They are the only remaining Democrats in the race. Maurice White

has died in the United States at the age of 74. The band had a number of

hits including September and Shining Star. Two men have been injured

after a motorbike stunt went badly wrong. They were reportedly

volunteers and were hurt after the bike failed to clear a ramp. We have

the build-up to the six Nations. With just 24 hours to go, excitement

reaching fever pitch. It will be very exciting.

Eddie Jones, this trading, taking things over at England, familiar

looking squad, only for changes to the team that lost in their last

matches at the World Cup last year, Scotland are a team on the up, Vern

Cotter taking charge, it will be a really interesting game, we will see

how that goes tomorrow. That is how the six Nations is looking.

Switching codes, the Super League got under way last night, really

interesting stuff or Leeds Rhinos, they won all three of the domestic

titles on offer last year. They lost against Warrington Wolves on the

opening match at home. Not a good start. Breaking news this morning,

Jessica Ennis-Hill has ruled herself out of the indoor season this year,

she has a sore Achilles, she wants to make sure that in fine fettle for

the Olympics, and maintaining her title. Join us in 20 minutes time.

New figures published today show how many young girls in England are

subjected to female genital mutilation, known as FGM.

It's reported that a new case of FGM is reported in England

More than 2,400 instances of mutilation were reported

in the six months from April to September last year.

And experts believe these numbers don't reflect the true

extent of the problem and are just "the tip of the iceberg".

FGM is illegal in the UK and it is illegal to take someone

abroad to have the procedure carried out.

At the start of November last year if someone like a doctor,

a nurse or a social worker suspects a girl under 18 has suffered FGM

The new laws introduced last year were designed to deter

the practice and could lead to the first ever conviction for FGM

Our report Catrin Nye went to meet women who have survived FGM

and reported back to us at the end of last year.

Here's a quick reminder of what she found and as you might

expect her film coming up contains frank and graphic material right

If you've got young children with you watching you might not

It is something I have to live with for the rest of my life, that is

what I do not want another child screaming like that. She had FGM in

Somalia as a child before moving to the UK.

It was not until she had a baby that she found out it was not normal. It

has been illegal in the UK since 1985 but nobody has ever been

convicted of it. Seeing this the first time, that medical lectures, I

have had people being sick in the audience, because it was too much.

In many countries in Africa, it is just the norm for women, in Somalia,

98% have had it. Exact figures on female genital

metre Laois and in the UK are impossible because it is so

secretive, a recent that the estimated 127,000 women who have

come to live in England and Wales are living with the consequences of

FGM. Another 10,000 girls are likely to have added. Now, if a girl under

the age of 18 comes into this north London hospital or any London

hospital and the staff are old or see that she has FGM, they must tell

police, teachers and social workers must also report. -- another 10,000

girls are likely to have had it. These ladies run a specialist

fennec, if another member of staff sees it, they will tell these

specialists. How many women are you seeing? 40 a week. That is going. --

growing. Have you feel about rather than contacting social services, you

will be calling the police? I have been saying to health professionals

that you should not feel anxious about reporting, it supports you, it

is something you should be doing already, if you discover a girl who

is under 18 who has had FGM. There is confidentiality, people trust

you, do you worry about people seeing you as an arm of the police?

If you are under 18, you are a child. You need to be protected. But

we are here to support the women's. The thing which worries me, is that

for the first time, we are really cutting right across the principle

of confidentiality. For patients who attend their doctor. Junior and even

senior doctors are deficient in their knowledge of genital

mutilation. Without extensive re-education, I do not think this is

really going to be a starter. You think your attitude is slightly

defeated? I think it is realistic. -- defeatist. Why do you think some

experts think mandatory reporting is a bad idea? It comes down to not

really understanding how that process works, for me it is quite

simple, you would report to me if I took my daughter to the hospital and

her arm or finger was cut off, you would have two report that, so why

is that different to when her genitals mutilated, I want to ask a

health professional that is resistant to this, why is it any

different? STUDIO: Let's discuss the issues

raised in that report. Hibo Wardere is an author and anti-FGM campaigner

who was cut as a child. Arifa Nasim runs a charity to prevent young

girls at risk of FGM and Lucy Russell is the campaigns manager for

Plan UK. Thank you for joining us, first of

all, you were cut at the age of six, Hibo, what do you remember? I

remember everything, the pain, how I was groomed the day before, it is

something that you never forget, it stays with you. It is

psychologically, emotionally, mentally there are, it is nothing

you can ever forget, however young you are, you are always there. For

years I did not talk about it because it is too personal and

painful, you just feel humiliated and disgusted... You do not want to

discuss it with anyone, not even my mother. That is the horrible part of

it, it happened, but nobody after that discusses anything about it,

how you feel, what just happened, nothing, no one did. That was the

fact that I struggle to understand that something major had taken

place, but nobody is discussing it or asking how you deal about it,

what has happened... It becomes a moot subject... At what age did you

think it was unacceptable? From the moment they cut me, I was consumed

in pain... It was part of the culture... At what stage did you

think it was unacceptable and you wanted to do something about it? I

always thought that one day I would discuss it, but I did not know how

long it was going to take, it took me 42 years to even begin to discuss

what had happened. To look at myself and what had happened. In the

meantime I was literally asking my mother every day, why did this

happen, why did you do this, until I was 16, and she told me that we did

this in order to preserve virginity, it is part of heritage, it is all to

do with making you preserved for your future husband. Here I was

thinking, you make me go through all of this pain and horrific things

that I suffered, echoes of a future husband?! Why is he not suffering

like that, why do my genitals have to be ripped up, because of that, I

had so many questions but I did not know how to discuss it and I did not

know when. You have a daughter. Three beautiful daughters, 19, 14

and nine years old, they will never know this, because I came to the UK,

the first thing I realised was, freedom, this is freedom for me, the

biggest part was realising that for my future children, they will never

experience what I did. For them to see today, a young woman, the other

one growing up, the other one playing with her dolls, and I am

talking Somalian... It is amazing to see them... They do not have the

emotional things that I was going through when I was younger, carefree

girls. I live my life through that, I see them and I lift my childhood

through them, for me, that is huge. You are best friends with one of the

daughters, as a result of hearing about her experiences, and others,

you have decided to become actively involved in campaigning on the

issue. Whatever you been doing? I found out about FGM when she came

and told me that her mother was campaigning on the issue. At the

time I was doing a campaign on forced marriage at my school. We

went to school together, and she said, this is an issue that links to

it. Before that I had not heard of it. You were 14, very young, and

obviously concerned by what you are hearing. Absolutely, and it began to

tie into everything that I was hearing about honour, the motivation

and reasons for which young people are forced to go through this

horrific abuse, and if you think about honour as a term, it is very

difficult for people in Western societies to understand, Western

societies are individualistic, where a societies that practice FGM, they

are collective societies. What they say goes, essentially. Even if a

mother does not want her child to be cut, she does not have a say, it

will be the grandmother or the aunty, that will perpetrate the

abuse. Understanding the dynamics under which these abuses and

practices happen is really crucial. Is that something you came up

against, when you took the decision that your children, your daughters,

was their pressure from other family members? Once they found out I was

not going to cut my girls, my own family wanted me to cut them, and

his family also wanted them to be cut, they will each week quite vocal

about that. The only thing I could tell them, these are my kids, not

yours, I make a decision, their answer was, who is going to marry!

You are going to be labelled all kinds of names. And I thought, that

does not matter, their health comes first. They were created that way,

they are beautiful beings, every part of them, sacred and functional,

who am I to have the right to remove anything just because of preserving

virginity? No, tell tell her, that would be enough for me, and for her.

The opportunity is hers, whether she wants to have six or not, it is her

decision, we were not trusted, that is the reason we were mutilated. I

want to be the opposite. One case reported every 109 minutes in the

UK, is it actually happening here? It is, although the majority of

cases, the girls are being sent back to home countries and there is

something we call the cutting season, a particular time of the

year during summer holidays, girls are sent home, people talk about

going back to visit family, but often, there are plans in place for

the girls to undergo FGM while they are away. It is possible to get

orders in place to prevent children being taken from the country, but it

must be quite hard to prove that is the reason. It is hard to prove, but

I think what is happening is that the safeguarding processes, the

police, people are beginning to understand more and more about the

risks and what is happening. Things like being able to take away the

passport of a child, does not harm them, but it does stop that risk.

How often is that being incremented? At the moment it is more cases but

one of the key thing is, people need to understand and learn more about

it, we are really passionate about training people about public

awareness and making sure professionals really understand what

is going on. That is the only way that intervention will happen stop

at Wonga what about the change that health professionals who see a case

are obliged to report it, is that happening, is it making a

difference? The reporting is happening, 109 minutes, that is the

first year we have of health and social care statistics, that is

painting a really strong picture for us and it is the first time we have

had a sense of what is going on in England, but it is a long time

before we know the real picture. The most vulnerable people are those

that are not in contact with social services. Those statistics relate to

people who have not been known about before, it is not new cases having

all of the time. It is not new before, it is not new cases having

cases, it is cases that have not been known about, so there is a

mixture. Check how many women are there who

cannot talk about it? 137,000 women live with FGM but that is just the

tip of the iceberg, I think there is much more than that. 80% of them

cannot speak about it, they live life as normal, and that is the

worst way of suffering in silence, they are suffering when it comes to

emotional, psychological things, but it is too personal to speak about

it, but that is changing, when I come from, we do amazing work, what

is happening is students are going back to the houses, talking about

it, they do not even believe it exists in their own culture. It is

amazing, they are confronting parents, asking them, does this

happen in the community, they've got no choice but to tell them. It is

educating parents as well, the child telling parents about the legality.

For us, education is the way to get through to these women and we are

doing it through the GPs, the coffee mornings, it is working in the UK.

Thank you. A reminder, if you feel you are in immediate danger of being

taken abroad to undergo FGM you should call the police. If you are

concerned that the welfare of a child is at risk, you can find more

contacts. You can call the NSPCC's hotline. Still to come, Ben Stiller

is back as the dim-witted male model Derek Zoolander. I've been speaking

to him and his co-star Owen Wilson. Let's get more on Julian Assange.

His UK lawyer is here with me. Good morning. I've been reading the

judgment. 100 paragraphs. Will it make any difference? It is

interesting because nobody else seems to have read it. It has only

just been released. It will be published later today. In the

headlines it suggests his freedom of movement should be facilitated and

he should be compensated. Sweden and Britain point out that his freedom

of movement is only being curtailed by the fact that he went into the

embassy to avoid extradition. 100 paragraphs of this refute that. The

interesting thing for Britain is the blame is essentially put on Sweden.

It is put on the Swedish prosecutor who has never given him, in five

years, the opportunity to explain. It is put on the arrest warrant.

This is something that MPs here will be interested in. He has been

wrongly detained as a result of the European Arrest Warrant that was

issued by a Swedish prosecutor, not by a Swedish court. The criticism is

of the process, which we in Britain, after he was ordered to be

extradited, changed. Now you cannot be extradited unless there is a

trial. He is still under investigation. That is the point, he

is still under investigation in Sweden and his opportunity to

explain is by going to Sweden. The criticism of Sweden was that it had

this process by which the European Arrest Warrant could be obtained, in

this case by a partisan prosecutor who did not have sufficient

evidence. It is on this basis... The prosecutor has been criticised.

These are allegations that are being investigated. The court, the United

Nations tribunal which I think Britain has an obligation to honour

their judgment, because we rely on their judgment, when they held that

others had been wrongly detained, we cannot pretend this is a judgment we

can ignore because if we do, our reputation for upholding human

rights will plummet. How does this trump the legal process? This is

international law. What trumps obligation to Sweden is that Sweden

has acted contrary to international law, but Sweden is bound morally by

this judgment as well, so obviously in order to enforce it, Britain

should get together with Sweden and find a way out. Perhaps compensate

the Ecuadorians for putting up Julian a staunch -- Julian Assange.

That is the result of Britain's commitment to international law. We

have more soft power in the world than anyone else, partly because

have more soft power in the world the BBC and its influence and partly

because we honour international law. After this long judgment, which

begins with Julian Assange being detained for ten days at Wormwood

Scrubs, it essentially concentrates on the defects of the Swedish arrest

warrant. Have you spoken to Julian Assange since? Not since the

judgment came out. Will you leave the embassy? Obviously not. He only

said he would leave if this ruling came in against him. What I think he

will probably do, and I cannot speak to him because I've only just got

the judgment, I think he will ask Sweden and Britain to comply with

their international obligations to give him freedom of movement to

negotiate a system where he has safe passage. I will leave that to him.

Britain and Sweden have an obligation to honour that judgment.

The real question would then become of free speech. I want to read you a

bit of the Foreign Office statement, they say he has never been

arbitrarily detained, they recognise the protections of the British legal

system. He is voluntarily ignoring arrest by staying in the Ecuadorian

Embassy. That was the United kingdom -- the argument the United Kingdom

put to these judges and they rejected that. This is an example of

the dog in the manger attitude. It does Britain's no favours because we

must recognise, if we lose, the umpire gives us out, we walk. This

is the cricketing metaphor for Britain's behaviour. How can we

possibly say that the next time the tribunal says some dissident has

been detained that Iran Russia should release them? They will turn

around and say you don't honour these judgments. You are just as bad

as we are. I think that's the damage the Foreign Office are going to

cause. Thank you for joining us. This story is developing throughout

the day. The UK Government have said they will challenge the decision. It

has been more than a decade since the most famous male model in the

world appeared on the screen but Derek Zoolander is back. The film

was a success for Ben Stiller who directed and played the lead. After

attempts to make a sequel it finally opens in the UK. I had the chance to

sit down with Ben Stiller and his co-star. I was pretty excited to

meet them. They were less excited to meet me. Let's do it! 15 years, how

does it feel revisiting the characters?

It was fun. At first it was strange because it had been so long, when we

decided to make the movie, I watched the first movie again because I'd

not seen it from long time, what it was a long time coming in terms of

building up to make it. At one point we were going to do it in 2005, then

2010, a couple of years ago we said, let us do this. How do you decide

who you want? You try to think who you want for the world of the movie.

There were certain people we wanted, and this time we were able to get

those people in. The opening scene with Justin Bieber, where his dying

act is to take a selfie, was that in there? It was in the script from the

beginning because we wanted to kick off the movie in a way that related

to what was happening today. Derek existed before the selfie, he

predates that. He invented it, didn't he? Yes, except that there

was no phone or camera to take it. He invented the look. I liken it to

Marlon Brando existing before there was a movie camera, they were meant

for each other. I never quite followed that analogy, I don't know

if you did. Imagine if Marlon Brando existed without a camera to capture

him. He was pretty good on stage... Derek would like to exist on a

runway. You were lampooning... Tortured analogy. You were

lampooning the fashion industry but the movie industry must be quite

similar. I think there is a little bit of an overlap in the

self-absorption, believing the whole world is thinking about movies and

what you're doing, and I think the fashion industry has the same thing,

you sort of have to think that to do something creative, to put yourself

out there. You've got to take yourself seriously, to be taken

seriously. You've got to say, this is what I think is it. Acting is the

same thing. He pulled don't take chances or go as far as they go.

There is always that fine line between brilliant and ridiculous. It

is easy to find correlation. Zoolander two is released in cinemas

everywhere if you want to see it. Now the weather. It is national

weather forecaster Dave. I am expecting a cake any moment now. I

want to show you something is happening in Japan at the moment.

We've got the international Snow and ice Festival, you can see in the

North where it is, the difference in the temperatures. We've got the

milder conditions in South Japan and it is called in the North. There has

been a lot of snow in the last few days. The resorts are doing well but

so is the festival. Here are some pictures of this festival. Look at

the detail in that. How long must it have taken to make that? This

attracts 2 million visitors every year. In recent years, when there

has not been enough snow? -- snow, the army have been deployed to

import snow to save the festival. Last year, there was not enough

snow. This year it is looking more promising. Temperatures over the

next few days, still minus ten. By day it will be a little higher.

Have you ever seen anything like that? No, we often have, not snow,

but sand sculptures, they are also affected by the weather, the weather

would melt the snow, it would rain, it is the same with the sand

sculptures. We begin importing colder air, for most of us, this is

the picture, cloudy scenario, drizzle coming out of the cloud,

some showers around, and we have some rain, courtesy of this weather

front. Some of the rain is going to be

heavier, but it will be surrounded and just ahead of it by sorely wind,

and through the course of the day, that is going to be pushing south.

There will be some breaks, across parts of Yorkshire, and then into

Lincolnshire, down into the West Midlands, we can also see some

breaks, but for most it will be cloudy and at times, damp. As the

rain continues south, across Scotland, clearest guys coming in

behind it, cold, and we will see some showers as well. Around the

rain we have this Warley wind, and just ahead of it, similar story. As

we come south, under the veil of cloud, thick enough to produce

drizzle all the odd shower. Temperatures ten or 11. Through the

evening and overnight, this front will come south, ticking North,

weakening feature, still windy, and another force will come in from the

Atlantic, that will pep things up, but it means for England and Wales,

another mild night. For the far north of England, Northern Ireland

and Scotland, cold, cold enough for frost and the risk of ice on

untreated surfaces. We begin on a wet note, tightly packed isobars

means that it is going to be wind, gusts, gale force, even severe gales

possible, with exposure through the English Channel. This rain could

produce as much as 50 millimetres, two inches, across parts of Wales

and south-west England, the risk of local flooding, and you can see it

migrates north through the day, engaging with the colder air, and so

we will see some snow on the hills. Still cold in the north,

comparatively mild as we push further south. Sunday is going to be

a mishmash, shall shine, showers, blustery showers, strongest wind

will be in the north and for a time we are likely to see hills no, by

then, cooler conditions will have floated further south. I say cooler,

compared to what they are going to be today, it will feel cooler, is

temperatures are more representative of where they should be at this

stage in February. -- these temperatures.

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As a United Nations panel rules that Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has

at an embassy where he sought asylum, his lawyer tells this

programme the UK and Swedish governments must abide

We would urge both governments to implement this decision under

numerous binding national conventions.

Thousand of patients in England are being kept in hospital

even though they could be discharged if the right care was available

to solve the problem of so-called bed-blocking?

After more than a decade, the most famous male model is back on the big

screen, I have been to meet Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson for the

release of Zoolander two. The film predates so much of what we take for

granted now... The selfie... He invented the look but somehow people

are giving him credit for inventing the selfie!

The main news: the UK says it will contest a ruling by a UN panel

that Julian Assange should be allowed

It says the Wikileaks founder has been Warbitrarily detained"

at an embassy in London where he sought asylum three

Sweden and the UK have an independent obligation under article

three to assess whether an individual would face this on wood

extradition and persecution that would violate their rights, in the

case of Julian Assange, he would risk cruel and inhumane treatment.

The NHS in England could save billions every year,

a review finds, including two billion managing staff better

The author, Labour peer Lord Carter, also says that ?900 million could be

saved if people were discharged from hospital more quickly.

David Cameron is holding talks in Poland and Denmark

in a bid to win support for his plans for EU reform.

But the prime minister faces growing pressure at home as a new poll

suggests a strong lead for Britons who want to leave the EU.

Democrats Hilary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have clashed over

foreign policy, campaign funding and health spending

In a face to face debate they argued over foreign policy, health spending

and Clinton's Wall Street fees for speaking engagements. And - the loss

of a soul man. Maurice White, the founder and leader of Earth, Wind

and Fire, has died in the US, at the age of 74. He had Parkinson's

disease. The band's massive hits included Boogie Wonderland,

September and After the Love has gone. Three people have been

announced as winners of GCHQ's Christmas puzzle challenge. The

budding code breakers beat 600,000 people to come the closest to fully

solving the challenges set by the Uk's national intelligence and

security agency. Latest in the sport. Excitement

building towards what has often been described as the greatest tube in

rugby, talking about the six Nations, especially of last year 's

tournament was anything to go by, Ireland snatch the title from Wales

and England on a thrilling final day. All gets under way in 24 hours'

time, France take on Italy in Paris, 100-year-old rivalries are renewed

in the oldest international fixture for the Calcutta Cup, between

England and Scotland. When they talk about the six Nations being the

greatest championship in the world, that is the whole reason why it is

the greatest, because every game means so much, means so much to the

fans and to the nations. You cannot get excited about it, you are not

going to get excited about anything! COMMENTATOR: Chris Robshaw...

Ford... Straight through, George Ford as the try. Not only the 15, we

are trained to score to 30... -- we are training a big squad and a good

squad of 30. Bennett gets the try for Scotland. They have hit back

with a first attack of the match. A win is a win, we are not thinking

too far ahead, what is important to us is how we start the game, we have

had two weeks to prepare, we have been so detailed, preparations have

gone well, we have worked hard. For us it is trying to look at what

England have done in the past, look at what Eddie Jones has done with

his squad, and tried to be prepared for anything that could come our way

on Saturday. You are never going to be in tidy sure about what they will

throw at you. Six weeks of thrilling international rugby begins this

weekend. Coverage begins live on BBC One, 1:30pm, France against Italy,

before Scotland against England at Murrayfield, kick-off, 4:50pm. On

Sunday, Ireland begin their bid for an president of the six Nations

title in a row, the reigning champions taking on Wales in Dublin

at 3pm. The women's six Nations also kicks off, Scotland face England

today, defending champions Ireland face Wales on Saturday. Switching

codes, rugby league's super league season began with an unexpected bang

last night, Leeds Rhinos, winners of the treble last season, an done at

home against Warrington Wolves, with three of Leeds pot veteran stars

including former captain Kevin Sinfield now retired, Rhinos were

narrowly beaten 12-10 at Headingley, Kevin Penny with a converted try.

That made the difference. There he goes. Over the line. Before I go,

disappointing news, Jessica Ennis-Hill has decided to miss the

indoor athletics season because of a sore Achilles heel, the heft apple

and world champion says that she is really frustrated, no surprises, but

that it is only precautionary, she would like to be 100% ready to

defend her Olympic title in Rio de Janeiro. She has made a comeback

before and no doubt she will do it again. -- the heptathlon champion.

STUDIO: Top story developing as we go on air, United Nations panel has

in the last hour confirmed its ruling that Julian Assange, with the

late founder, has been arbitrarily detained. It calls for him to be

given the right to compensation from Britain and Sweden. -- Wikileaks. He

voluntarily entered the Ecuadorian Embassy in London in 2012 seeking to

avoid extradition to Sweden where he is wanted for questioning over an

allegation of rate. He denies the allegation. Police say that he will

be arrested if he leaves the building. -- rape. Expert was asked

how binding this opinion is. It is an opinion, it is legally binding to

the extent that it is based on international human rights. Which

has been ratified by states. When a state ratifies a convention, in this

case, convention on civilian political rights, that stays as the

obligation to implement its provisions. Indirectly, yes, it is

binding. In the last few moments we have heard that the UK will contest

the decision. Downing Street says a European Arrest Warrant is in place

so the UK has a legal obligation to extradite Julian Assange to Sweden.

Geoffrey Robertson is Julian Assange's UK lawyer. What trumps our

obligation to Sweden is that Sweden has acted contrary to international

law. We have no obligation to Sweden. But Sweden is bound morally

by the judgment as well. Of the asleep, in order to enforce it,

Britain should get together with Sweden and find a way out, and

perhaps compensate the Ecuadorians for putting up Julian Assange. -- of

the asleep, in order to enforce it. That is the extent of Britain's

commitment to international law, we are the leading soft power, we have

more soft power in the world than anybody else. -- obviously, in order

to enforce it. In a moment we'll be talking to the Government's human

rights minister Dominc Raab and Peter Bleksley who's a former Met

Police Officer, but first here's a reminder of the story so far.

We have seen the distortion of evidence and facts, by prosecuting

authorities in Sweden, revealing, in minute detail, throughout the course

of the day. Under our law, with Julian Assange having exhausted all

options on people, the British authorities are under a binding

obligation to extradite him to Sweden. We must carry out that

obligation and we fully intend to do so.

As Wikileaks stands under threat, so does the freedom of expression, and

the health of all our societies. I ask Barack Obama to do the right

thing. The United States must renounce its witchhunt against

Wikileaks. He has told the people of the world

and the United States that there is mass unlawful

interception of their It is hard in there without the air

and the sunlight, without any Let's go live to the Ecuadorian

Embassy. Richard Lister is outside. Ring as up-to-date with the ruling

and reaction. In terms of the latest reaction, we've just had this from

the Foreign Secretary. He says Juliana Sarge is a fugitive from

justice and the UN panel report is ridiculous -- he says Julian Assange

is a fugitive from justice. The Foreign Office is not taking any

track with this report. It says it changes nothing and will contest the

report. It does not even recognise a concept of political asylum Juliana

-- Julian Assange has been granted. It says it did not sign the

convention that ratifies it. It does not support it. This changes nothing

on the ground. The British government is bullish and the Met

police have said if he steps out of the embassy he will be arrested. I

think he can claim a moral victory to his campaign, he has attracted a

lot of international attention. The report might be grounds for a

challenge at the European Court of Human Rights, we can wait and see,

but the government is standing firm. We can talk to the human rights

minister at Westminster. Also with me is a former Met police officer.

We can speak about the cost of the operation. What is your reaction to

this judgment? It is not a judgment, it has not been handed down by a

court, it is an opinion coming from a panel on the UN. We want to

consider it very carefully. Not only is it legally flawed, but the facts

are upside down. There is a lack of moral clarity. It is not Britain

detaining Julian Assange. He was on conditional police bail, he

absconded and pulled himself up in the Ecuadorian Embassy. He did so to

avoid an allegation of rape in Sweden. It is not a banana republic,

it is a country with a very well-respected justice system. What

needs to happen is the Ecuadorian speed to engage with the Swedes in

good faith to get this resolved. Frankly, the UN opinion does not

help resolve this at all. If anything it rather undermines the

credibility of the UN, and that is very regrettable. When you say that

you want the Ecuadorians and Sweden to negotiate, what do you want to

happen? We think the warrant needs to be respected, if there are any

issues about what happens that is a bilateral issue. It is an abuse of

the system to see someone hold themselves up in an embassy when

they are accused of something serious in a country, it is Sweden,

you can get a fair trial. This should be resolvable and should

happen quickly. His supporters say this is as it is because he is a

dissident, the are concerned about extradition. Looking at the reports

about they've come to the decision, the working group says because he

has been subjected to different forms of liberty deprivation, that

was arbitrary because he was held in isolation and a lack of diligence.

That is factually wrong and legally flawed. He was on conditional lease

bail and absconded, breaking those conditions. The idea that Britain or

Sweden is detaining him is upside down. What you think of the cost of

the detaining him? It is ridiculous. I think the taxpayer will be

concerned about it and it is an abuse of the system. I understand

there is a court case, but let's member whilst everyone allowed this

man in, he is accused of rape, he has the right to a fair trial but

does anyone seriously think he would not get that in Sweden? Let's bring

in the former Met police officer. Spell out what that ?12 million

amounts to in terms of police hours? The peace officers need to be

played, we've seen a large number posted outside the embassy, albeit

they've been withdrawn in recent weeks. When you start looking at the

salaries they earn, between 20 and ?30,000, multiply that by half a

dozen, that is one shift, there will be three shift today. Suddenly you

can see how the cost starts to mount up. It is ?12 million and counting.

Whilst there are not any officers outside the embassy anymore I would

strongly suspect there was a covert operation point with officers with

binoculars trained on the front door because the Met police cannot face

the embarrassment of Julian Assange popping out, slipping into a car and

ab scolding. What do you think about the fact the UN has got involved? We

want to support them, is consistent in promoting human rights around the

world, but I think we struggle when you get reports like this which are

so often upside down. We will behave the right way which is to go to the

UN, correct the facts, explain why it is not Britain detaining Julian

Assange, why he has brought this on himself. His supporters say that by

saying what you're saying you under reminding -- undermining the

authority of a report if it goes another way, and you want to accept

the findings. Jeffrey is very well paid as the lawyer, but what is

undermining the credibility of the UN is reports like this, which

people will think lack moral clarity. We will engage

constructively but robustly. Remember, it is the Ecuadorians who

need to step up to the plate. Frankly, this talk about human

rights, people want to look at the Ecuadorian government. It is a

double standard. The UN says he should be entitled to compensation.

If moves begin for compensation to be sought, how would the UK

Government see that? We would contest that rigorous way. He would

not be achieving any compensation, the mess that has been created as a

result of his actions would ensure that. Thank you very much. Thank you

for joining us in the studio on the cost of the operation. This morning

we be looking at cut-price supermarket and sent one of our

reporters on a challenge. A new store has opened selling everything

for 25p. It is an attempt to undercut the discount food market. A

reporter was at EasyFood this morning. He's now at Lidl. Compare

how it was. At EasyFood I bought tea and coffee and cereal and biscuits.

Each item was 25p. I've come to Lidl and bought the same items and I've

spent ?4.10. I spent more here. We will check in

later. Where are you going next? I am going to Aldi. Thank you for

joining us. Still to come... We will discuss how home care can be

improved so that bed blocking, where elderly patients are kept in

hospital, can be tackled. As shoppers flock to a new supermarket

offering basic items for 25p, could the competitors cut their prices in

response? The main news this morning, the Foreign Secretary says

a ruling that Julian Assange should get compensation for being

arbitrarily detained is ridiculous. He says Julian Assange is a fugitive

from justice. They assess whether an individual would face the risk of

onward extradition and persecution. That would violate the rights of

Julian Assange. Not only is it legally flawed, I think the facts

are upside down. It is not Britain detaining him. Better management

could save the NHS in England billions of pounds every year, an

independent reviewer has found. There is a big problem with delays

in discharging hospital patients. David Cameron is in Poland and

Denmark intensifying his efforts. The parameter faces pressure at home

as a new poll shows the reform package has led to more people

wanting to leave the EU. Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have had

a head-to-head debate, clashing over health policy, and the money Hillary

Clinton has taken. The world of soul has lost Maurice White, a member of

Earth, Wind and Fire. Three people have been announced as the winner of

GCHQ's Christmas challenge. We will speak more about that shortly.

Is time to catch up with the latest on the build-up to the six Nations.

Rugbys greatest championship, according to Eddie Jones, now just

24 hours away. England travel to Murrayfield for the opening match

against cotton, an international fixture which is over 100 years old,

live on BBC One tomorrow. Champions Ireland face Wales on Monday. --

Sunday. Switching codes, rugby

league's super league season began with an unexpected bang

last night, Leeds Rhinos, winners of the treble last

season, an done at home against Warrington Wolves,

with three of Leeds pot veteran stars including former captain

Kevin Sinfield now retired, Rhinos were narrowly beaten

12-10 at Headingley, Jessica Ennis-Hill

has decided to miss because of a sore Achilles

heel, the heft apple and world champion says

that she is really frustrated, no surprises, but that it is only

precautionary, she would like to be 100% ready to defend her

Olympic title in Rio. Is that if the government says that

better management could cut the cost of running the NHS in England by

billions of pounds every year, the report by a Labour peer, Lord

Carter, says big improvements could be made if all hospitals learned

from the best. He said sectors where savings could be made included:

estate management, purchase of supplies, use of medicines and

staffing. In his report he says delays

in transferring patients out of hospital after treatment could be

costing the NHS in England The independent review,

that aims to find ways the NHS can save cash, says one in 10 beds

are occupied by someone who was medically

fit to be released. Lord Carter also called for better

procurement and staff management and said

the drugs bill should be cut This is what Lord Carter told BBC

Breakfast this morning. It is certainly not going to beat

eBay did is 5 billion in a total spend of 150 billion, 55 billion in

acute hospitals, where the really difficult things are undertaken. The

King at it, if we can work more efficiently, we can certainly buy

things more efficiently, and we can make the whole system run. The good

point is that we have excellent hospitals that are doing it well, we

know how to do it, the issue is how we get everyone up to the standards

of the best. from Unison, the union

which represents many NHS staff. Also here is Richard Murray,

from The King's Fund think tank. And from Coventry is

Councillor Izzi Seccombe, from the Local Government

Association. First of all, Richard, have new

areas being highlighted here that have not been highlighted before,

because it feels as though these are areas where money could be saved.

Most of the areas have been identified in the past. Real

difference that has come through is the help about how you would reduce

the savings, what is it that local hospitals need to do and what

support can they be given, addictive Eilidh Child on benchmarking, so

that they compare themselves to other parts of the service. It can

be difficult to know what might be the cheapest price or what they

should be looking to do on things like the States. Other areas like

procurement, management of the states, procurement, many people

full these are areas for savings, but the real key is giving the

service more support in releasing them. Does Lord Carter deliver an

effective simplicity here, that could provide a template for every

NHS Trust to know how they can do it easily. Hospitals are big

businesses, it is quite complicated, what is, but they did is to make

sure the ambition is not too unrealistic. A lot of the savings

being delivered by 2020, some years away, that is a good thing, it is

moralistic, it means it will not really help the NHS in the funding

challenge this year and over the next two to three years. For the

local government Association, how do you see this, bed blocking...

Questions about the price of drugs... They sound like things that

we have heard a lot about before, why is it so difficult for hospitals

to tackle those issues. The role that local government can play, and

that we have supported, is that we should be looking at a whole systems

approach. We truly value the NHS, and the role they play, and

hospitals, but what we don't want is people sitting in hospitals when

they should not be, we want them back at home and supported in their

independence, and trying to get back to the life they want to lead. That

is where we come into it, where social care comes into it. As long

as we are not funding social care properly, we are not tackling a

whole systems approach. For me that is the critical factor, we need now

to have support, financial support, to look at how we drive down the

dependency, and try to keep people independent at home. Is it the case

then that it is pointing out that effectively money can be saved here,

as long as we spend money there, on social care. There is a lot of truth

in that, you cannot discharge people from hospital until services are

available outside of hospital. It is not just social care, also things

like district nurses which are part of the NHS, which have been

declining. The outlook for social care spending is quite grim, there

is a risk that the problem will get worse before it gets better. What do

you think about the report? How constructive is it? There is good

things, it is good to point out where the variations are, we are

disappointed it seems to have been the directive route, rather than

having individual solutions and individual trusts, how you cut the

overhead corporate and administrative costs, and absolute

figure could be trouble Matip for a number of trusts, and does not deal

with some of the issues about why some trusts may have these

variations. The big failing, if you like, for me, when I read it, it

talks about the problems in delays and discharges but there is no

recognition whatsoever of the massive cuts that local authorities

have seen in their funding, it averages at 40% cuts, to local

authorities, and funding. Although many have tried to protect social

care funding, there has still been cuts of around 25 to 30% on social

care funding, my own counsel, south London, that has had 56% cuts in

funding since 2010, and expecting more. Do you see any thing actually

changing on that front? We continue to support the whole systems

approach, we recognise that the government have addressed in part

the issues around funding which will help. But it only helps in part, and

there is still a gap, a funding gap, that we would like to address, of

about 700 million, if they brought forward the better care fund, now,

that would help us to start to deliver the systems approach that I

talked about earlier, now, which is the issue that your other

interviewers have addressed. We need to deal with it this year. TUC any

thing actually materially changing as a result of this report? A lot of

things will potentially change, how hospitals and all the states, how

they manage administration spending, the worry is the one around social

care, extra money, that is quite difficult to do at the current time.

Procurement, why has it taken so long, cost of drugs. There is a lot

of drugs, many different types of drugs, you need transparency, one

hospital does not automatically know what another has paid unless a

system is put into reveal that information, most hospitals are

competing, it not in their interests to reveal how much they are managing

to pay for things. This tries to make sure that there is

transparency, that people know the prices that everyone is pain, and in

some cases that the NHS can come together and buy as a group and push

the prices down. Thank you very much joining us.

It all started with a Christmas card from the head of Britain's code

breaking intelligence agency GCHQ. Inside was a link which led

to the first stage of a puzzle. Since then it's gone viral,

and thousands have tried to solve it Three people came close to cracking

it, but the competition has now closed and Britain's finest

cryptographers remain unbeaten. In a moment we'll ask how

but first our security correspondent has been finding out how to solve

at least part of the problem. And as you might expect with a quiz

set by GCHQ the people behind VOICEOVER: Tell us how one

of the puzzles is solved. It is a sum involving

Roman numerals. There is a secret feature to this

question, which is that we can reinterpret one or other of these xs

to be multiplications. X is obviously used

as a multiplication sign sometimes. Here is how you solve

another of the puzzles. When you arrange these squares

correctly, you get the first word

of famous two word films. The arrow and the dice surrounding

the words point you to one of the letters from the second word

of the title, and when you have all of these letters

they reveal the answer. They have called it the hardest

puzzle in the world and it takes some serious intellectual firepower

to solve, A glass paperweight,

and a fair bit of bragging rights. STUDIO: With me in studio is Jessica

Williams a final year student on Computer Games Programming at De

Montfort University. David McBryan one of three winners in the GCHQ's

christmas puzzle is in Edinburgh. And in Swindon is Professor Alan

Woodward, a specialist in cyber security at the University of

Surrey. Jessica, you are our uber-brain in the studio, we expect

you to crackhead! -- crack it. Thank you everyone for joining us, coming

straight to you, David, well done. How long did you send on it? -- how

long did you spend on it? It was published on a Thursday, I had it

done by the early hours of the Sunday... Basically, three days.

What is your background, what kind of skills have you got that made you

look at it in a way that most of us would look at it and think, I have

no idea what that is supposed to be about. The initial puzzle is a type

that I have seen plenty of times before. That was straightforward. I

did maths at university, but since then, I have worked as a quizmaster,

writing quiz questions. I spend my spare time doing puzzles. This was

very much in my field. Jennifer, you are going to look at it for us...

Presumably you have already had a good look. I have had a peek. When

you look at something like this, how do you own picket? You begin looking

at the patterns that you can see, double letters, things like that,

anything that happens repeatedly. It becomes clear within the first 30

seconds, all you will be on it for hours. It depends upon how your

brain works, sometimes you look at a crossword, and if you are attuned to

the person setting the crossword then you can guess it. Yes, I would

say so. Have you looked at this one and gone, YES! LAUGHTER

When I got it myself, I did not get that far. Do not be ashamed. Talk us

through. That makes no sense to me, what does it say to you? It looks

like a load of colours to make! LAUGHTER

I would begin by looking at the opposite words, seeing if there was

any connection between them. Then if I could not get any headway that

way, then I would think about the colours in the words, some kind of

correlation. Then there is the numbers. I am looking at it that way

as well, I am going to leave Yuji Carreon puzzling, while we bring in

the cyber security experts, Alan Wood Wood, it is obviously a bit of

fun, but the point was, these are the sort of things that are used by

GCHQ as part of their recruitment, and why is that? -- Alan Woodward.

This goes all the way back to the days of Bletchley Park, to find

people with the right mindset, they put puzzles in the Times, not just

crosswords but logic puzzles, and the kind of skills they are after

our people who can think will logically, but also laterally. And

also one of the things you find with most of these puzzles is that there

is some ambiguity potentially in the answer, one that was in Gordon's

package, with the Roman numerals, for example, the X can mean ten, it

can also mean multiplied by, there are several answers. Your answers

they were looking forward all of them put together! You were nodding

vigorously at that point. At the ambiguity, yes, that was the most

frustrating aspect, really, of solving it, you did not know when

you could read it, some of the answers were clearly right, but

others... Not so sure. Particularly the Roman numerals. The initial

answer was too obvious, a couple more... OK, that works... Then there

were some others... They were looking for us to express again not

just the question but the answer as well! In terms of the two meanings

of the X. Do you want to be a spook question mark definitely not!

LAUGHTER I think that you got a paperweight

as a prize. I don't think it is the skills that

are used, there is some correlation but it is very different to modern

cryptology, which is computer-based, most of these things, you could work

out with a pen and paper. It is correct to say they are the kind of

skills they would be looking for in Bletchley Park but I don't think

this was ever intended as a recruitment tool. Tell us about the

bigger picture which is looked for when it comes to recruiting. It is

obviously not just cryptographers but analysts. One of the skills they

look for our people that can piece together, look for patterns in

things, try and understand where things are not what they appear to

be. But also, they are looking for people who can deal with ambiguity

and deal with where you do not know what the question was. Quite often

there were not instructions, you had to figure it out. They were looking

for people who would go a little bit deeper. A couple of questions, you

got an answer and if you went back to it as I did, one of the

observations is, there was a hidden question on the final page, the

crest of GCHQ has leaves in it, which were shaded differently. When

you looked at it, it spells out a message, which was a question. The

question was, name the technique for hiding these in images. You're

nodding, that is your bag. I was looking at that challenge this

morning. If I had phoned that I would have been on it right away.

Has it made you want to be a spook? I would love to be but you're not

supposed to say that! Good luck if you ever decide to do that. Thank

you for joining us. Some breaking news, the family of PC David Rath

band have lost their negligence claim against the police. He was

shot by Raul Mote -- Raoul Moat. He would not have been stationary had

he been warned by senior officers. He said if commanders had rushed

orders another serious incident could have occurred. Suicide is one

of the biggest killers in the UK. In 2014, 6142 people killed themselves.

Men are three times more likely to kill themselves but suicide rates

among women are also at the highest in a decade. We spoke to a man whose

daughter to her own life. The words of a grieving father. She

was always ready to give herself. And I was a wife, a mother of two

children. Last April, she faced redundancy, believing she failed

those she loved most. In this beer she took her own life. She was 44.

-- in despair. The Voice just said, and is dead. I was silent, she is

dead? She said they had not reached me before now. I put the phone down.

The first thing is, I am angry, my fist is on the mantelpiece, you want

to turn it back, this is not real, it has not happened. I felt angry we

did not get down there sooner, and I thought, I've got to go out there.

If you're guilty, because you love her so much, and you think, why did

you not tell me it was so bad? All these people are so shocked and

would have absolutely sprinted to support you to get you through this.

Michael and his partner now help others cope with what is left

behind. The suicide literally brought

Michael to his knees. Emotionally, he was... It was terrible to see.

All that is left is the memory of her daughter. When she is not there,

you miss the companionship. If you could have won more conversation

what would you say? I would say that I loved you always and always will.

If you have been affected by these issues and would like details of

organisations which offer advice and support you can get in touch with

the action line. Lines are open 24 hours. This

morning we have been looking at cut-price supermarkets, sending a

reporter on a challenge to buy food on a budget. A new shop is selling

items for 25p. A reporter was at EasyFood first. Then we sent him to

Lidl and Aldi. What is in your shopping bags? I have got a massive

breakfast. From the EasyFood shop I bought tea, coffee, jam, cereal and

biscuits. I spent ?1 25 because they are doing their February deal where

they sell everything that month for 25p. I have just come back from

Aldi, I spent ?4 26. Biscuits were cheaper than EasyFood and jam cost

65p. At EasyFood I spent 1.20 five. -- ?1 25. The real point here is in

a few months, prices will change. Prices will increase and be

readjusted again. It will be interesting to go back a few months

and do the comparison properly. Thank you. Hurry back so that we can

get breakfast. It has been more than a decade since the most famous male

model in the world appeared on the screen but now Derek Zoolander is

back. The film was box office success for Ben Stiller, and after

three attempts to make a sequel, it finally opens in the UK. I had the

chance to sit down with Penelope Cruz, who appears in the latest

instalment, to find out how much fun she had trying to perfect the pose.

I loved making this movie, working with them, being in their company

every day, enjoying how funny and talented they are, I love comedy and

I am a big fan of comedy. When he gave me the news that he wanted me

to be part of it, I was so excited. I'm one of those people who has seen

the first one in six times. It is obviously poking fun at the fashion

industry. I know that you work in the fashion business and the movie

business, is it something that concerns you? I think this is an

important question but you're asking me to compare the fashion world with

the movie world and it would be a ten minute answer, I discussion. I'm

not going to get into that right now! Is it something that bothers

you in the movie industry? Sometimes it takes your attention, like when

they give facts about what is happening and someone like Jennifer

Lawrence is in a position where it is very brave what she does because

she could be very comfortable and not complain but she is very

generous that she is speaking for all the other women. You speak up if

you felt you were not getting the same? I support what she is saying.

The fact somebody like her is saying that, it does a lot for all the

other women. If you like the first film you will love the second. Thank

you very much for your company. If you would like to watch our films

you can do it online. Just visit the page. You can find us on the BBC

news app. Victoria is here on Monday so join her from 9:15am. Have a

lovely weekend and I will see you soon. Goodbye.