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Hello it's Monday, it's 9.15, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
This morning we'll keep you up to date with that breaking news | :00:08. | :00:13. | |
Several people have died and up to 100 more are injured. | :00:14. | :00:20. | |
We'll keep you across developments throughout the programme. | :00:21. | :00:23. | |
Plus - do you think you've been discriminated at work | :00:24. | :00:27. | |
We'll talk to viewers who say they have been. | :00:28. | :00:31. | |
It comes as a woman with dyslexia wins her case against Starbucks | :00:32. | :00:35. | |
There was a point that I wanted to commit suicide. Because... I'm not a | :00:36. | :00:55. | |
fraud. Also on the programme, | :00:56. | :00:56. | |
the future of fracking in this country could be decided | :00:57. | :00:59. | |
when a planning inquiry opens today. Whenever a large scale project goes | :01:00. | :01:08. | |
ahead, there are winners and losers. You have to accept there'll be some | :01:09. | :01:11. | |
people that won't be happy at the end of it. And police suspect the | :01:12. | :01:24. | |
Dublin shootings could be linked to a gang feud. We'll bring you the | :01:25. | :01:26. | |
details. Welcome to the programme, | :01:27. | :01:29. | |
we're on BBC 2 and the BBC Throughout the programme we'll bring | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
you the latest breaking news A little later we'll discuss kids' | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
use of social media. A survey for Newsround suggests more | :01:40. | :01:44. | |
than three-quarters of children aged between 10 and 12 use accounts | :01:45. | :01:47. | |
like Snapchat, Instagram and Facebook - despite the age | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
limit being 13. It's something parents struggle | :01:51. | :01:54. | |
with, so we'd love to hear your Texts will be charged | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
at the standard network rate. And of course you can watch | :02:01. | :02:07. | |
the programme online wherever you are - | :02:08. | :02:09. | |
via the BBC news app or our website, We'll bring you the latest on the | :02:10. | :02:24. | |
breaking news this morning. Police reporting that at least four people | :02:25. | :02:28. | |
have been killed and 100 injured in a head-on train crash in southern | :02:29. | :02:34. | |
Germany. It happened this morning in the state of Bavaria. One train is | :02:35. | :02:42. | |
thought to have derailed, several wagons overturned. A rescue effort | :02:43. | :02:48. | |
is ongoing. Many people are reported to be trapped and investigations are | :02:49. | :02:51. | |
under way to establish the cause of the crash. The latest from the | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
police is that 15 people are thought to be very serious injured and a | :02:57. | :02:58. | |
further 40 badly injured. A woman with dyslexia has | :02:59. | :03:03. | |
won her discrimination Dyslexia is a common learning | :03:04. | :03:06. | |
difficulty that can cause problems Meseret Kumulchew took the coffee | :03:07. | :03:12. | |
chain to an employment tribunal after she was disciplined | :03:13. | :03:18. | |
for falsifying documents. Our legal eagle Clive Coleman has | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
been speaking exclusively to her. Tell us the story? She was a | :03:24. | :03:36. | |
supervisor in Clapham. Part of her duties were to check water and | :03:37. | :03:38. | |
fridge temperatures at specific times during the day and to make | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
entries on to a duty roster. She has difficulties with reading, writing | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
and time, so she made those entries incorrectly. Every employer in the | :03:48. | :03:53. | |
UK, Victoria, is under a due toy make reasonable adjustments under | :03:54. | :03:57. | |
the equality act from someone that suffers from a disability, including | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
dyslexia. Far from doing that in this case, Starbucks accused her of | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
deliberately falsifilinging the entries in that duty roster. She | :04:06. | :04:11. | |
took them to an employment tribunal. The employment tribunal found that | :04:12. | :04:15. | |
Starbucks failed to make reasonable adjustments to help her and that it | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
had discriminated against her because of the effects of her | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
dyslexia, so in other words as a result of the false entries in the | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
duty roster. It also found she had been victimised and it found there | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
was little or no knowledge or understanding of equality issues. | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
Now, Meseret spoke exclusively to me and told me the allegations of lying | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
pushed her to the edge. Clash There was a point that | :04:41. | :04:45. | |
I wanted to commit suicide. Yes, I nearly completely | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
ended up my life. But I had to think of my kids, | :04:50. | :05:13. | |
and that's the sort of way it Explain the kind of difficulties | :05:14. | :05:18. | |
you had at work because I'm dyslexic, I get carried away | :05:19. | :05:24. | |
to the extent, when I'm at work, I have to put alarm clocks | :05:25. | :05:31. | |
on my mobile to alarm me it's 2:18, 2:17, then I can start packing, | :05:32. | :05:35. | |
otherwise I'm in it, What could they do by way of making | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
adjustments to assist you in doing your job to the same | :05:40. | :05:47. | |
standard that anyone else To start with, they should have | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
bought in the Dyslexia Association, which they have insight, | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
they might not have the total understanding of what I go through, | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
but they can make life easier. It's within their power, | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
they could do that. Why do I have to be | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
deprived from it? What sort of practical | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
measures would help you? For example, if I'm doing | :06:11. | :06:13. | |
the banking, have another person Leave me to it, let me | :06:14. | :06:18. | |
make my mistakes, then give me time to go back and backtrack it, | :06:19. | :06:27. | |
because I can backtrack it. Or I can have another person | :06:28. | :06:32. | |
to assist me to say, "Hang on, you've done a mistake | :06:33. | :06:35. | |
here," then I can backtrack it. But eventually it becomes such | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
a routine it becomes OK, because it's the same | :06:40. | :06:42. | |
thing day in, day out. Another thing they could do | :06:43. | :06:45. | |
is that all the policy It doesn't muddle up | :06:46. | :06:48. | |
to my brain to digest. Most importantly, apply | :06:49. | :06:57. | |
what Starbucks say, do, I do, I go into it physically, | :06:58. | :07:04. | |
so I can put, you know the little technical details that don't mean | :07:05. | :07:14. | |
anything to anybody... Don't worry - help me, | :07:15. | :07:16. | |
but I'll get there in my own time, in my own speed, and I'm not | :07:17. | :07:33. | |
going to affect your business because every customer of people | :07:34. | :07:36. | |
coming in Starbucks, if it was in my power I'll | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
roll out the red carpet, because they are a lot to me, | :07:41. | :07:43. | |
and I want to take the Starbucks mission statement and the training | :07:44. | :07:49. | |
I got given and apply it I love my job, because it gives me | :07:50. | :07:52. | |
the interaction of different kinds of people - educated, | :07:53. | :08:01. | |
disabled, non-disabled, so many different | :08:02. | :08:04. | |
customers that I meet. Giving them a coffee | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
might not be a big deal, but, to me, I'm making their life, | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
for the day, at least, happy. Starbucks say they are committed to | :08:15. | :08:33. | |
having a diverse and inclusive workforce. Just to give you an idea | :08:34. | :08:39. | |
of the size of this problem. The British Dyslexia Association tell us | :08:40. | :08:42. | |
that one in ten people has dyslexia to one degree or another, so this is | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
a huge chunk of the working population. They say that in terms | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
of making the reasonable adjustments, firstly they'll go in | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
and assess and advise, but small things like for instance having a | :08:56. | :08:58. | |
recording device during meetings, having someone to help you with | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
proof-reading, that sort of thing, can be an enormous help. They say | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
cases such as this are a bit of a wake-up call for many employers. | :09:08. | :09:13. | |
Thank you very much. Very keen to hear from you if you are dyslexic, | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
do you feel you have been discriminated against or has your | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
boss made the reasonable adjustments so you can get on with your daily | :09:23. | :09:29. | |
job. Let's talk to Rosie, a learning support teacher. She was left with | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
no option but to leave her job, she says, after bosses failed to support | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
her with her dyslexia. Sean Douglas Cesc he previously lost a job | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
because of his dyslexia and Louise is here, she supports adults and | :09:46. | :09:48. | |
teenagers and she believes she wasn't short listed for a job | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
because of her dyslexia and poor writing skills. Thank you all very | :09:53. | :09:55. | |
much for coming on the programme, thanks for talking to us. Explain to | :09:56. | :10:01. | |
our audience first of all Rosie, what it's like having dyslexia? It's | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
a different way of thinking. Your brain is wired in a different way | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
and the way you process information is done in a different way. For each | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
person it's personal to them but the usual things of reading, that's | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
difficult, memory is a problem and spelling is difficult. It's a | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
short-term auditory memory, I don't remember what people have | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
short-term auditory memory, I don't know if it's written but if someone | :10:29. | :10:32. | |
says I'll meet you at quarter past five and I'll think, quarter to or | :10:33. | :10:35. | |
quarter past and it's gone within seconds. What about reading or | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
writing? I grew up not knowing I was dyslexic so I thought I was stupid, | :10:42. | :10:47. | |
careless. I don't read accurately. At Christmas, I read to my | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
four-year-old granddaughter and my six-year-old grandson was correcting | :10:53. | :10:57. | |
me. And he was right. If I ask you to spell a word, let's use the word | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
dismal, for example, what are you hearing? I hear one sound, dismal, I | :11:03. | :11:08. | |
don't hear all the break-ups. Obviously I've trained to be a | :11:09. | :11:20. | |
specialist teacher, I know it's d-i-s-m-a... But that's taken | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
training. If I hear the word scarf, I don't hear it with the sounds in | :11:26. | :11:31. | |
the right order inside my head. You have different experiences of | :11:32. | :11:33. | |
discrimination in the work place. Sean, tell us about your old | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
company? I'm a video producer and had gone through my career and | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
reached a high level. I went into a company and took a step back to fill | :11:44. | :11:50. | |
in gaps in the knowledge. I worked on complicated projects. At this | :11:51. | :11:55. | |
production company I was piled with paperwork, I was employed because of | :11:56. | :12:01. | |
my creativity but I was forced into doing something which my brain is | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
not trained to do. There could have been some job-sharing that would | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
have allowed me to excel but after three months I was told told I was | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
slow, I was coming in at 6 in the morning to get on top of this and it | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
was like, why are you doing this, nobody else does and that was the | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
discrimination I had. You said presumably you had dyslexia? They | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
knew, yes. Yet they still let you go after three months? Yes. It got to a | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
point where I was brought into the office and told I was bad at my job | :12:34. | :12:36. | |
and you have a month to pull your Socks up and, after that, you don't | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
really want to be in that environment with you are looking | :12:41. | :12:43. | |
over your shoulder and a lot of people don't talk about the | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
emotional side. They talk about the reading and writing, but what it | :12:47. | :12:49. | |
does to your self-confidence is as much of a problem as the physical | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
difficulties that you have. Rosie, what about your own experience? A | :12:56. | :13:01. | |
complete lack of understanding and awareness because the disability is | :13:02. | :13:08. | |
invisible, people make asun summions and think you are not trying hard | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
enough, you are making mistakes and become careless -- assumptions. I | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
have dyspraxia too, which isn't as known. Do you want to explain that? | :13:18. | :13:23. | |
It's another specific learning difficulty. It affects the way that | :13:24. | :13:28. | |
the brain is wired, the signals which go down to the body, so it | :13:29. | :13:35. | |
affects coordination, balance, spatial awareness, knowing where you | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
need to be and time distance and space, trying to navigate yourself | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
around a crowd maybe or trying to get yourself somewhere, trying to | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
navigate a new place, trying to do things and it takes you ten times | :13:49. | :13:53. | |
longer to pick up basic skills that other people take for granted. Are | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
there some jobs that you think you couldn't do or shouldn't do because | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
of your dyslexia? Air traffic controller. Not good with lefts and | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
rights. That would be a nightmare for me. All right, but by and large | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
you feel you should be given the opportunity to do the same job as | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
anybody else? You should be allowed to do any job that you have the | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
capability to do, absolutely. There are simple adjustments that | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
employers can make. There's also assistive technology so you can bits | :14:25. | :14:27. | |
of software that will read your text back to you and that is amazing. You | :14:28. | :14:33. | |
can't see mistakes that you make but you will easily hear them. A lot of | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
employers are cottoning on to that so you can help an individual and | :14:39. | :14:41. | |
buy the software. Which will auto correct any copy that you are | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
writing? Or you can speak to the computer and it will write the words | :14:46. | :14:51. | |
for you. Yes. Other than helping individuals, companies need to think | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
about being more holistic. Some get blanket licences for the better | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
software. People that maybe don't identify as diselectionic or maybe | :15:02. | :15:04. | |
they are ashamed about it, they can use that stuff and that's been | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
proved with companies that have dyslexics. They suddenly have | :15:10. | :15:14. | |
hundreds of dyslexics when they think they had about ten. Tell us | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
about the job you were not short listed for because, you believe, of | :15:20. | :15:27. | |
your dyslexia? I wasn't short listed, and I asked why. They | :15:28. | :15:31. | |
actually said, your handwriting was not good enough. But on the form, I | :15:32. | :15:36. | |
made it very clear I was dyslexic. What was the job? To teach special | :15:37. | :15:42. | |
needs for a private school. So, with your own experience, you would think | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
that you would have... I should have been short listed. I don't say I | :15:48. | :15:51. | |
should have got the job, but I should have been interviewed. When | :15:52. | :15:54. | |
he said your handwriting was not good enough, you They did not know I | :15:55. | :16:01. | |
was dyslexic. They denied they said that. | :16:02. | :16:04. | |
You did not take your former employers to a tribunal, tell us | :16:05. | :16:12. | |
why. The emotional side of dyslexia can be quite tough. It was a bit of | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
a tail between the legs moment. It was more about proving to myself | :16:17. | :16:19. | |
that I was as good a producer as I knew that I was, taking them to a | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
tribunal was not really an option for me. What about you? For me, the | :16:24. | :16:31. | |
emotional side, it made me very anxious, it made me lose my | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
confidence, lose my self-esteem. It had a huge impact on my emotional | :16:36. | :16:40. | |
side of things. Just really, I wanted to raise awareness. That made | :16:41. | :16:46. | |
me want to help other people and help raise awareness of the hidden | :16:47. | :16:53. | |
differences. You left your job. Sean's case, he was let go. It | :16:54. | :17:03. | |
affected my confidence and self-esteem. People around me, my | :17:04. | :17:06. | |
boyfriend and my mum, they could see how much it was affecting me. They | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
were saying, you are worth more than that, you have so many strengths, so | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
much empathy towards other people. You are so determined. You are able | :17:16. | :17:18. | |
to think outside the box. You are worth more. Can I read some comments | :17:19. | :17:24. | |
from people watching around the country? They saw the interview. | :17:25. | :17:31. | |
This one does not leave their name. That woman should not be doing the | :17:32. | :17:35. | |
job if she can't do it. Steve says, if you cannot do the job, don't do | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
it. You cannot have another person watching over you, they might as | :17:40. | :17:46. | |
well do it themselves. Anthony text, dyslexia at work? Thank God for | :17:47. | :17:49. | |
compensation culture. There are some positive ones, which I will read in | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
a moment. How do you react? Employers should not be worried | :17:55. | :17:57. | |
about employing dyslexics, most of others | :17:58. | :18:09. | |
---- us only need a minor adjustment. If you are dyslexic, it | :18:10. | :18:15. | |
can take longer to pick up a job. If you are given proper training, | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
laminated cards with pictures on, the temperatures, that would have | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
been helpful. You can make reasonable adjustment, so the lady | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
could do her job. Some elements of a job, like filing, you might not have | :18:28. | :18:31. | |
to do. But the people that are good at that can do that part of the job. | :18:32. | :18:35. | |
Would you be saying it was acceptable for a medical | :18:36. | :18:38. | |
professional to make such mistakes, says one reviewer, would you be | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
understanding if your bank lost your money or messed up a house purchase | :18:43. | :18:47. | |
because of a dyslexic employee? Just accept that some people cannot be | :18:48. | :18:51. | |
employed for certain jobs. I disagree, a dyslexic is no more | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
likely to make those mistakes than anybody. The banking crisis was not | :18:56. | :19:02. | |
done by dyslexics. All good companies should have strategies in | :19:03. | :19:06. | |
place so that these mistakes, made by any particular person, are | :19:07. | :19:10. | |
identified. Employers should look at the people they have employed. They | :19:11. | :19:14. | |
have put somebody through the interview process, that person has | :19:15. | :19:16. | |
stood out from the crowd. Think about those attributes. Starbucks, | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
we're not going to Starbucks because we think the coffee is worth ?3, we | :19:23. | :19:26. | |
are going for the environment, the customer service. That woman | :19:27. | :19:29. | |
probably had all of those attributes. That part of the job was | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
a small part of the job, not the overall part. If you go into | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
Starbucks and she's really nice, attentive, get your order is right | :19:39. | :19:41. | |
and makes you feel like you are a person that they want in the store, | :19:42. | :19:45. | |
that is what you need to think about, a very small part of what | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
she's doing. Helen says, I feel for the young woman that has dyslexia, | :19:51. | :19:53. | |
it is heart-rending, but it seems there is no real support or | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
understanding. Another, dyslexia is not just about spelling and grammar, | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
it is about the way you think if people keep labelling it as a | :20:02. | :20:07. | |
disability, rather than a learning difference, we will never overcome | :20:08. | :20:10. | |
prejudice. If there are people watching, parents or adults, | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
thinking, this sounds familiar, maybe I have dyslexia, what is their | :20:15. | :20:20. | |
first port of call? If they are in education, they should go to the | :20:21. | :20:24. | |
school and ask to speak to the form tutor and special educational needs | :20:25. | :20:28. | |
coordinator. Every school must have won by law. Plenty of students are | :20:29. | :20:35. | |
watching, if you are at college or university, the same? You have a | :20:36. | :20:37. | |
disability service or a student support service, and you can go to | :20:38. | :20:41. | |
that. The reason it is called a disability is because of the | :20:42. | :20:45. | |
education act. The education act called it a learning disability and | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
we have to stick to government legislation. But, as Rosie says, and | :20:50. | :20:55. | |
Sean, it is different brain wiring. If you are in work, there is Access | :20:56. | :21:01. | |
To Work, you can go to that and you can get an assessment and they can | :21:02. | :21:04. | |
help you get the assistive technology. There are also | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
charities. You are not alone. Charities like Dyslexia Action, The | :21:10. | :21:14. | |
British Dyslexia Association, for anybody who thinks they might be | :21:15. | :21:20. | |
dyspraxic, there is the Dyspraxic Association. You can feel very | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
isolated and think, it is me being me, but lots of other people are | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
going through similar experiences. If teachers want support, there is | :21:29. | :21:36. | |
the Dyslexia Trust, which has free training and information on their | :21:37. | :21:37. | |
website. Thank you very much. Throughout the programme we will | :21:38. | :21:43. | |
bring you the Throughout the programme we will | :21:44. | :21:47. | |
train crash in Germany. We are hearing from a reporter for | :21:48. | :21:59. | |
Bavarian regional television, he says that two trains collided in a | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
small forest area and that the terrain is difficult to reach. He | :22:05. | :22:07. | |
says the front of the two trains have rammed into each other, to a | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
distance of about ten metres, and the crash site is strewn with pieces | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
of wreckage. The trains are not completely destroyed. According to | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
the reporter, the route is operated by a private rail company called | :22:23. | :22:29. | |
Meridian. Rescue workers are having to be winched down from helicopters | :22:30. | :22:37. | |
to the crash site. You can see the emergency workers, paramedics and | :22:38. | :22:40. | |
ambulance crews attending to those that have been injured. Up to four | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
people have been killed, we are told, in this head-on train crash in | :22:46. | :22:49. | |
the state of Bavaria, the town of Bad Aibling is where it has | :22:50. | :22:55. | |
happened. Possibly up to 150 people injured. | :22:56. | :23:02. | |
Still to come: As a planning inquiry into fracking in the UK gets under | :23:03. | :23:05. | |
way, this programme has discovered a link between a group of residents | :23:06. | :23:08. | |
who support fracking and the controversial energy company | :23:09. | :23:10. | |
At least four people have died and around 150 have been injured | :23:11. | :23:19. | |
in a head on collision between two trains in southern Germany. | :23:20. | :23:22. | |
Emergency services are still trying to reach people trapped | :23:23. | :23:24. | |
in the wreckage of the crash near Bad Aibling in Bavaria. | :23:25. | :23:28. | |
A woman with dyslexia has won a disability discrimination case | :23:29. | :23:31. | |
against her employer Starbucks after she was accused | :23:32. | :23:33. | |
A tribunal found Meseret Kumulchew had been discriminated | :23:34. | :23:40. | |
against after making mistakes recording times and temperatures. | :23:41. | :23:47. | |
People in the American state of New Hampshire are voting | :23:48. | :23:50. | |
Their choices will help select the Republican and Democratic party | :23:51. | :23:53. | |
People are being warned there's no such thing as a safe sun tan. | :23:54. | :24:02. | |
New guidance says the need for short term sun exposure to build up | :24:03. | :24:05. | |
Vitamin D has to be balanced against the risks of skin cancer. | :24:06. | :24:15. | |
The head of Google has become the highest-paid chief executive in | :24:16. | :24:26. | |
America. 43-year-old Sundar Pichai has been awarded nearly ?140 million | :24:27. | :24:32. | |
worth of shares, which happens to be ?10 million more than Google | :24:33. | :24:35. | |
recently agreed to pay the UK Government in back taxes. The BBC | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
understands Andy Murray has become a father after his wife, Kim Sears, | :24:40. | :24:43. | |
gave birth to a girl. The couple were married in Dunblane last year. | :24:44. | :24:46. | |
A formal announcement is expected shortly. Those are the main news | :24:47. | :24:53. | |
stories. Congratulations to Andy and Kim. | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
It should be dissent a piece of this year's sporting calendar, but there | :24:58. | :25:02. | |
is more concern around the Rio Olympics. | :25:03. | :25:03. | |
You might remember yesterday a story regarding the United States | :25:04. | :25:05. | |
warning their athletes against travel to Brazil due | :25:06. | :25:07. | |
to the Zika virus, which has been linked to birth defects. | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
Now Kenya, a country famed for its middle and long distance | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
runners such as the great David Rudisha, say they will not | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
send athletes if the virus reaches epidemic level, | :25:20. | :25:21. | |
whilst they are hopeful it won't get that bad. | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
Elsewhere, a big day for captain Eoin Morgan | :25:27. | :25:28. | |
They'll look to lay down a marker by taking an unassailable lead | :25:29. | :25:32. | |
Play is due to begin at Centurion later this morning, | :25:33. | :25:36. | |
around 11:30 with England hoping to make it 3 out of 3. | :25:37. | :25:39. | |
We'll hear what Eddie the Eagle has to say to celebrities taking part | :25:40. | :25:42. | |
in the Channel 4 reality show The Jump after Beth Tweddle's | :25:43. | :25:45. | |
And there's some good news in the Murray household this morning | :25:46. | :25:50. | |
as Andy and wife Kim have had a little girl, | :25:51. | :25:52. | |
I'll be back with a sport round-up just after 10. | :25:53. | :25:58. | |
Lets talk more about the train crash in Germany. Police say several | :25:59. | :26:04. | |
people have been killed in a head-on collision between two trains in the | :26:05. | :26:09. | |
south-east of the country. At least 100 people have been injured, many | :26:10. | :26:16. | |
of them seriously. It could be up to 150. The early morning crash caused | :26:17. | :26:20. | |
several carriages to derail. It happened near the town of Bad | :26:21. | :26:24. | |
Aibling, about 40 miles south-east of Munich. A rescue operation is | :26:25. | :26:28. | |
underway as many are still said to be trapped in the wreckage. Gulian | :26:29. | :26:34. | |
von Lovvis is a local journalist. He's just a couple of hundred meters | :26:35. | :26:41. | |
from the scene and gave this update. We do not know anything about the | :26:42. | :26:47. | |
reason of the crash. Obviously, one train was going in the wrong | :26:48. | :26:54. | |
direction. We do not know why, if the operator did a failure or if | :26:55. | :26:57. | |
there was a technical failure. We do not know at this point. We do know | :26:58. | :27:03. | |
that the situation is very difficult, there is a lot of rescue | :27:04. | :27:10. | |
teams and helicopters flying trying to get the situation. This railroad | :27:11. | :27:17. | |
in the south of Bavaria, it is rush-hour. Those trains were | :27:18. | :27:25. | |
probably quite busy. So, the number of injured, the number even of | :27:26. | :27:33. | |
deaths, might arise today. The crash situation is in a very narrow area. | :27:34. | :27:38. | |
The helicopters cannot land there properly. The rescue teams have to | :27:39. | :27:46. | |
fly over the situation. This is pretty tough, for the situation. | :27:47. | :27:55. | |
Let's talk to Andy Moore, Phil us in with what you know. The latest | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
casualty figures from the German police, they say four people are | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
dead, 15 critically injured, 40 badly injured and a total of about | :28:05. | :28:09. | |
100 injured. This crash happened about 7am, our time, on this single | :28:10. | :28:16. | |
line of track. Two passenger trains were involved in a head-on | :28:17. | :28:19. | |
collision. Why they were both on that single line of track at the | :28:20. | :28:23. | |
same time will be part of the inquiry. We believe several | :28:24. | :28:26. | |
carriages from both of the trains were derailed. It is a very | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
difficult area to deal with, as we heard from that correspondent. It is | :28:32. | :28:35. | |
a wooded area, it seems to be on an embankment. There is a river nearby | :28:36. | :28:40. | |
that is causing some problems. So, the helicopters are landing some | :28:41. | :28:44. | |
distance away and the casualties are then being ferried to the helicopter | :28:45. | :28:55. | |
landing area. Some of them have been moved along the track. Some of them | :28:56. | :28:58. | |
are being moved across the river by the emergency services. We are | :28:59. | :29:00. | |
hearing at some of the rescued people are being winched down to the | :29:01. | :29:03. | |
area by helicopter. In very large emergency operation on going. One | :29:04. | :29:05. | |
reporter talks about never seeing so many ambulances at the scene. A lot | :29:06. | :29:09. | |
of the roads around have been closed to enable that operation to get | :29:10. | :29:13. | |
underway. One fortunate thing is that this happened at 7am. Normally | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
there would have been a lot of children on board the trains heading | :29:18. | :29:20. | |
to school. We understand it is a holiday in the area at the moment. | :29:21. | :29:25. | |
As far as we are aware, none of those casualties are children. | :29:26. | :29:34. | |
We will keep you updated on that train crash throughout the morning. | :29:35. | :29:40. | |
Still to come, two fatal shootings in Dublin that police think are | :29:41. | :29:42. | |
linked to a gangland feud. We will bring you the details. | :29:43. | :29:44. | |
This morning hundreds of protestors are expected | :29:45. | :29:46. | |
at Blackpool Football Club as a public inquiry starts | :29:47. | :29:48. | |
which could decide the future of fracking in England. | :29:49. | :29:52. | |
The controversial energy company Cuadrilla is trying to overturn | :29:53. | :29:55. | |
a landmark decision to ban drilling on two key sites in rural | :29:56. | :29:58. | |
Over the last year the debate has become heated at times with both | :29:59. | :30:03. | |
sides accusing the other of distorting the facts | :30:04. | :30:05. | |
Now this programme has discovered that a vocal group of local | :30:06. | :30:09. | |
residents set up to support fracking in the region is run by people | :30:10. | :30:12. | |
linked to Cuadrilla itself, as Jim Reed reports. | :30:13. | :30:21. | |
Just keep the wretched stuff in the ground. | :30:22. | :30:33. | |
You can be happy being a vicar and being somebody | :30:34. | :30:51. | |
After all, the alternative is to let people freeze. | :30:52. | :31:09. | |
A cold and wet winter's day in Blackpool. | :31:10. | :31:12. | |
150, old and young, gather ahead of a decision that could change this | :31:13. | :31:16. | |
We really, really must continue to fight in whatever way we can. | :31:17. | :31:22. | |
Those involved promise fracking for gas will bring | :31:23. | :31:25. | |
This group will need some convincing. | :31:26. | :31:30. | |
Across the country, back in 2011, there were three | :31:31. | :31:33. | |
Over the last year, this whole debate has become nasty | :31:34. | :31:40. | |
and bad-tempered at times, with accusations of dirty | :31:41. | :31:43. | |
We have been taking a close look at the claims made by both sides. | :31:44. | :31:49. | |
Are some of those opponents guilty of scaremongering and exaggeration? | :31:50. | :31:53. | |
Are many of those in favour linked to the fracking industry itself? | :31:54. | :31:59. | |
Lancashire is sitting on what some think is one of the largest gas | :32:00. | :32:03. | |
fields in mainland Europe - perhaps enough to power the UK | :32:04. | :32:07. | |
First, of course, you have to get the stuff out. | :32:08. | :32:12. | |
Water, sand and chemicals are pumped at high pressure, deep underground. | :32:13. | :32:17. | |
The rocks down there frack and the gas flows | :32:18. | :32:20. | |
It's profitable but controversial, in the US and Australia. | :32:21. | :32:26. | |
It's banned at the moment in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. | :32:27. | :32:29. | |
In England, though, the Government is keen. | :32:30. | :32:33. | |
I want us to get on board this change that is doing so much good | :32:34. | :32:38. | |
on bringing so much benefit to North America. | :32:39. | :32:41. | |
I want us to benefit from it here as well. | :32:42. | :32:43. | |
Will it make a difference to your life? | :32:44. | :32:45. | |
Fracking in America is a big reason why world oil and gas prices | :32:46. | :32:52. | |
It's not happening here yet, but more than 100 licences have been | :32:53. | :32:57. | |
granted from Sussex to Yorkshire, a great opportunity, | :32:58. | :33:00. | |
say its backers - an environmental disaster, | :33:01. | :33:03. | |
We've driven out of Blackpool now and we are making our way down | :33:04. | :33:08. | |
to the village of Roseacre, which is about 20 minutes away, | :33:09. | :33:12. | |
So, if I pull over, I wanted to show you, this is exactly | :33:13. | :33:21. | |
where Cuadrilla, the energy company, wants to drill. | :33:22. | :33:28. | |
If we jump out of the car, quickly, you can see this is it. | :33:29. | :33:31. | |
This could become one of the first fracking sites, | :33:32. | :33:40. | |
not just in Lancashire, but in the whole country. | :33:41. | :33:48. | |
If you just want to come through here a minute. | :33:49. | :33:50. | |
Local campaigners claim there are 180 people living | :33:51. | :33:54. | |
Jane Barnes and her family are one of the closest. | :33:55. | :34:01. | |
When we are out here, you get a really good | :34:02. | :34:05. | |
So, those trees, just over there, that is Roseacre Wood. | :34:06. | :34:12. | |
In between those two, looking straight across there, | :34:13. | :34:16. | |
we would be looking at a fracking site. | :34:17. | :34:19. | |
If it goes ahead, the site itself will look something like this. | :34:20. | :34:22. | |
Cuadrilla says it will be independently tested and it's | :34:23. | :34:25. | |
confident there is no danger to public health. | :34:26. | :34:29. | |
I cannot imagine why anybody would want to come here, | :34:30. | :34:33. | |
to look at a fracking site, to live amongst it, | :34:34. | :34:35. | |
with all the traffic and everything that it entails, | :34:36. | :34:39. | |
So, it's taken away that choice that we would have for our future. | :34:40. | :34:51. | |
Somebody says to you this is nimbyism, not in my backyard, | :34:52. | :34:55. | |
People like to say that to you, don't they? | :34:56. | :35:02. | |
For such a hugely populated country that we are, the risks | :35:03. | :35:05. | |
that you would run, you have a responsibility | :35:06. | :35:10. | |
to stand up and say, it's not right. | :35:11. | :35:13. | |
It's not all right in anybody's backyard, not just mine. | :35:14. | :35:23. | |
Some locals are against on health or environmental grounds. | :35:24. | :35:27. | |
Many are worried it will make it harder to run a business | :35:28. | :35:34. | |
We did see one case of a house falling 15% in value | :35:35. | :35:39. | |
because of the threat of fracking - but nothing like some of the figures | :35:40. | :35:43. | |
It's not, though, the first time locals have gone through this. | :35:44. | :35:49. | |
This was the scene last summer, when Lancashire Council throughout | :35:50. | :36:03. | |
This was the scene last summer, when Lancashire Council threw out | :36:04. | :36:05. | |
the fracking application for Roseacre and | :36:06. | :36:07. | |
I think you know what it means to me. | :36:08. | :36:14. | |
Cuadrilla is now appealing that decision - the first case | :36:15. | :36:19. | |
We were really expecting this to be the definitive moment. | :36:20. | :36:28. | |
I suppose, in that, we took them at their word | :36:29. | :36:30. | |
This begins to describe what will be coming. | :36:31. | :36:35. | |
The campaign against fracking was dealt a major blow in November, | :36:36. | :36:37. | |
when the Government said this decision is too important to be | :36:38. | :36:40. | |
So, the appeal goes ahead, but it will be the Secretary | :36:41. | :36:44. | |
of State in Westminster who now has the final say. | :36:45. | :36:47. | |
But I don't see it as meaning defeat or that we are wasting our time, | :36:48. | :36:54. | |
because we simply wouldn't carry on if we thought that was the case, | :36:55. | :36:57. | |
So, the local community has come together. | :36:58. | :37:01. | |
Its lawyers are working for free and thousands has been raised to pay | :37:02. | :37:04. | |
for expert witnesses, through everything from cake | :37:05. | :37:08. | |
It makes David and Goliath look like a fairly even contest. | :37:09. | :37:13. | |
Cuadrilla has a vast array, it has a PR company, | :37:14. | :37:16. | |
But the more you know, the more you know you've | :37:17. | :37:27. | |
We have been passed the latest polling figures by academics | :37:28. | :37:45. | |
It's interesting, when you look at the whole country, nationwide, | :37:46. | :37:51. | |
they suggest that consistently, more people support fracking | :37:52. | :37:54. | |
It's the jobs argument that seems to be the most persuasive. | :37:55. | :37:59. | |
A large majority believe fracking will bring economic benefits. | :38:00. | :38:04. | |
I don't think you can go anywhere in Lancashire without a railway, | :38:05. | :38:07. | |
without a motorway, without a power station or some | :38:08. | :38:11. | |
I think the people of Lancashire are used to having that | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
on their doorstep, and that's why I think they are well equipped | :38:17. | :38:19. | |
So you think some people are just going to have to accept that this | :38:20. | :38:25. | |
might happen next door to their house? | :38:26. | :38:27. | |
Inevitably, whenever a large-scale project goes ahead, | :38:28. | :38:30. | |
You do have to accept that there is going to be some | :38:31. | :38:36. | |
people that are not going to be happy at the end of it. | :38:37. | :38:39. | |
But I think, long-term, the benefits outweigh the cost. | :38:40. | :38:41. | |
The accountants Ernst and Young claimed fracking can create 64,000 | :38:42. | :38:44. | |
jobs across the whole country - though that report was paid | :38:45. | :38:47. | |
for by the industry and is disputed by the other side. | :38:48. | :38:54. | |
The impact of it not going ahead at present has meant that he has | :38:55. | :38:58. | |
Just as there are very vocal critics of fracking, | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
Is less bad for the climate and is less bad for air pollution. | :39:04. | :39:09. | |
One of the most active is a group called Backing Fracking, | :39:10. | :39:11. | |
that describes itself as a residents collective. | :39:12. | :39:14. | |
It uses some of the tactics of the other side, raising money | :39:15. | :39:17. | |
online, planning demos and writing letters to the local paper | :39:18. | :39:20. | |
The people behind it say they are speaking for a silent | :39:21. | :39:26. | |
majority who want to see jobs and growth. | :39:27. | :39:28. | |
Shale gas can actually promotes much more job prospects for the young | :39:29. | :39:31. | |
We found out that two of the main organisers do have links to | :39:32. | :39:37. | |
One is an engineering student who has worked as an intern | :39:38. | :39:42. | |
for Centrica, another owns a company which provides | :39:43. | :39:44. | |
All say they are involved because they believe fracking, | :39:45. | :39:51. | |
This is a reproduction of William Smith's geological map | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
Some come at it from a very different direction. | :39:57. | :40:03. | |
Michael Roberts still works as a vicar. | :40:04. | :40:05. | |
A geologist by trade, heleft the profession to join | :40:06. | :40:07. | |
8000 feet below that are the Bowland Shales. | :40:08. | :40:12. | |
Now he is a vocal pro-fracking campaigner, driven by what he says | :40:13. | :40:16. | |
is bad science coming from the other side. | :40:17. | :40:19. | |
I am a realistic greenie, realising that on this planet | :40:20. | :40:26. | |
there are so many people here, that they have to be fed | :40:27. | :40:29. | |
and they are going to need a certain amount of energy. | :40:30. | :40:34. | |
That is why we should use our own, local, natural gas. | :40:35. | :40:37. | |
Your critics are going to say that you are in the pocket of big energy. | :40:38. | :40:41. | |
I'm afraid they don't give me a new Bentley every year. | :40:42. | :40:44. | |
So, we took a drive, away from the planned | :40:45. | :40:48. | |
fracking sites, and up into the hills of Lancashire. | :40:49. | :40:51. | |
It is here that, if you know where to look, you can find | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
the shale that Cuadrilla and other energy companies hope to split open, | :40:56. | :40:59. | |
under the ground, in places like Roseacre. | :41:00. | :41:02. | |
You can see how it is splitting apart because of weathering. | :41:03. | :41:05. | |
That is what the fracking would do when they did it. | :41:06. | :41:08. | |
They would split apart, along the planes, as it were. | :41:09. | :41:13. | |
Do some people think, Michael, that, as a vicar, | :41:14. | :41:20. | |
There are those, and I think they are very mistaken, | :41:21. | :41:28. | |
as there is nothing to replace fossil fuels with at the moment. | :41:29. | :41:31. | |
So you can be happy being a vicar and being someone | :41:32. | :41:34. | |
After all, the alternative is to let people freeze, and I don't think | :41:35. | :41:43. | |
you would be a good vicar if you have a system which allowed | :41:44. | :41:47. | |
Plenty of people in Lancashire and beyond may disagree with that. | :41:48. | :41:53. | |
Whatever comes out of the public inquiry in Blackpool, | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
whatever decision comes from the government in Westminster, | :42:00. | :42:02. | |
it could make a big difference to us all. | :42:03. | :42:07. | |
Cuadrilla say it's to be expected that people with links | :42:08. | :42:11. | |
to the industry would support frracking. | :42:12. | :42:17. | |
Later in the programme we'll hear from the boss of Cuadrilla. | :42:18. | :42:22. | |
Coming up: Why nearly 80% of 10-12 year olds in the UK have a social | :42:23. | :42:26. | |
media account - despite a minimum age limit of 13. | :42:27. | :42:36. | |
In you have children under 13 and let them have Instagram, Facebook or | :42:37. | :42:42. | |
Snapchat accounts, explain why. Let's get the latest | :42:43. | :42:47. | |
weather update with Carol. How is it looking after the storm? | :42:48. | :42:58. | |
Look at those waves! They are mainly from Wales and southern England | :42:59. | :43:02. | |
which took the brunt of the storm. Waves were reported from a buoy | :43:03. | :43:07. | |
about 100 miles south-west of Cornwall, reaching 19 metres in | :43:08. | :43:11. | |
height, roughly 62 and a bit feet, that's huge. Even into the English | :43:12. | :43:17. | |
Channel, we had ten metre waves but of course, as they crashed on shore, | :43:18. | :43:21. | |
they were roughly up to about five metres. That's about 16 feet. Huge | :43:22. | :43:28. | |
waves. In Southampton you can see them. Not as windy today but it's | :43:29. | :43:33. | |
been windy in Ben tomorrow. In Benidorm? Yes. Look at these | :43:34. | :43:43. | |
cyclists taking part in a race and they are pedalling against the wind. | :43:44. | :43:48. | |
The gusts were about 50mph, that kind kind of speed. Have you ever | :43:49. | :43:52. | |
tried cycling into the wind? Of course I've not. Do I look stupid. | :43:53. | :43:58. | |
It's really hard. I am stupid, I've done it. Look at that, oh, my gosh. | :43:59. | :44:04. | |
The policeman was struggling. This chap was trying to help him. We | :44:05. | :44:09. | |
shouldn't laugh. We are not laughing at them, but with them. The forecast | :44:10. | :44:14. | |
today for us is much better. We'll take a look at that. | :44:15. | :44:18. | |
Today the rain has been pushing across the south coast and it will | :44:19. | :44:24. | |
eventually clear. We have a weak weather front courtesy of what's | :44:25. | :44:31. | |
left by Storm Imogen. That will weaken today and sink | :44:32. | :44:35. | |
further south. We have some hill snow around coming out of the band | :44:36. | :44:39. | |
of rain and you can see some in Wales, maybe still the chance of | :44:40. | :44:43. | |
some snow coming out across the moors but that risk is now | :44:44. | :44:48. | |
diminishing. In-between it all, we will see some sunshine. Across | :44:49. | :44:52. | |
Scotland, we have snow across the Northern Isles sinking south into | :44:53. | :44:55. | |
the mainland. That'll produce some snow through the course of the | :44:56. | :44:58. | |
afternoon. Talking of the afternoon, there'll be some sunshine around. We | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
have got that certainly across the south-east, into East Anglia, | :45:03. | :45:06. | |
through the Midlands, towards the south coast with the showers and | :45:07. | :45:10. | |
still the chance of some wintriness on the hills. For south-west | :45:11. | :45:14. | |
England, a similar story. We have rain coming across Wales, moving | :45:15. | :45:18. | |
south, again the risk of wintriness on the hills, as there is across the | :45:19. | :45:22. | |
Pennines. Bright skies or sunshine in-between. For Northern Ireland, we | :45:23. | :45:26. | |
have the rain sinking south. For Scotland, central areas seeing some | :45:27. | :45:30. | |
sunshine, but then we are back into the rain and the hill snow. Wherever | :45:31. | :45:35. | |
you are today it's going to feel cold. As we head through the | :45:36. | :45:39. | |
evening, everything that is in the north is heading south. There'll be | :45:40. | :45:43. | |
some breaks in the cloud. It will be another cold night with some frost | :45:44. | :45:46. | |
around. There is the risk of some ice first thing in the morning on | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
untreated surfaces. Tomorrow is looking like a beautiful day with a | :45:52. | :45:58. | |
fair bit of sunshine around. So yes, there'll be some showers, | :45:59. | :46:01. | |
particularly in the north and west. Many will miss them all together. | :46:02. | :46:05. | |
The wind will fall lighter so it won't feel as cold but it is still | :46:06. | :46:10. | |
cold as it is still February. As we head on into Thursday, once | :46:11. | :46:16. | |
again we are looking at some dry conditions, forecast change this | :46:17. | :46:20. | |
morning for Thursday, so a lot of dry weather, some sunshine, a few | :46:21. | :46:23. | |
showers but still feeling a bit on the nippy side. | :46:24. | :46:28. | |
I'm Victoria Derbyshire, good morning. | :46:29. | :46:31. | |
We'll have the latest on that breaking news of a head on train | :46:32. | :46:34. | |
Last few minutes, police in Bavaria say eight people have died and up to | :46:35. | :46:47. | |
150 are injured. We will bring you the details on this developing | :46:48. | :46:48. | |
story. A woman with dyslexia has won | :46:49. | :46:50. | |
a discrimination case against Starbucks at | :46:51. | :46:52. | |
an employment tribunal. There was a point that I wanted to | :46:53. | :47:09. | |
commit suicide. Because... I'm not a fraud. | :47:10. | :47:11. | |
We've been speaking to viewers with dyslexia who say they've also | :47:12. | :47:13. | |
I was brought into an office and basically tell I was bad at my job. | :47:14. | :47:22. | |
You have a month to pull your socks up. After that, you don't want to be | :47:23. | :47:26. | |
in an environment where you are looking over your shoulder. A lot of | :47:27. | :47:29. | |
people do not talk about the emotional side of dyslexia. They | :47:30. | :47:33. | |
talk about the reading and writing, but what it does to your | :47:34. | :47:35. | |
self-confidence is as much of a problem as the physical | :47:36. | :47:40. | |
difficulties. Do continue to tell us your experience of dissemination at | :47:41. | :47:42. | |
work if you have dyslexia. Police in Dublin suspect | :47:43. | :47:46. | |
two fatal shootings - one last night and one at a boxing | :47:47. | :47:48. | |
weigh-in on Friday could be linked And, why nearly 80% of 10-12 year | :47:49. | :47:51. | |
olds in the UK have a social media account - despite a minimum age | :47:52. | :47:57. | |
limit of 13. If you have children under 13 and | :47:58. | :48:06. | |
you let them use Snapchat, Instagram on Facebook, get in touch and tell | :48:07. | :48:08. | |
us why. The main news this morning: at least | :48:09. | :48:20. | |
eight people have died and around 150 have been injured in a head-on | :48:21. | :48:25. | |
collision in Bavaria in southern Germany. | :48:26. | :48:27. | |
Emergency services are still trying to reach people trapped | :48:28. | :48:29. | |
in the wreckage of the crash near Bad Aibling in Bavaria. | :48:30. | :48:32. | |
The cause of the collision is not yet known. | :48:33. | :48:34. | |
A woman with dyslexia has won a disability discrimination case | :48:35. | :48:40. | |
against her employer, Starbucks, after she was accused | :48:41. | :48:41. | |
A tribunal found Meseret Kumulchew had been discriminated | :48:42. | :48:44. | |
against after making mistakes recording times and temperatures. | :48:45. | :48:52. | |
The NHS in England has been told to stop sending mental health patients | :48:53. | :48:58. | |
a long way from home for care. An independent inquiry says the | :48:59. | :49:00. | |
practice is unacceptable and potentially dangerous. | :49:01. | :49:02. | |
A health watchdog has warned that there is no such thing | :49:03. | :49:05. | |
The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence in England says | :49:06. | :49:08. | |
the need for short term sun exposure to build up Vitamin D has to be | :49:09. | :49:12. | |
balanced against the risks of skin cancer. | :49:13. | :49:18. | |
The head of the technology giant Google has become the highest-paid | :49:19. | :49:21. | |
43-year-old Sundar Pichai has been awarded nearly ?140 million worth | :49:22. | :49:24. | |
of shares, which happens to be ?10 million more than Google | :49:25. | :49:27. | |
recently agreed to pay the UK government in back taxes. | :49:28. | :49:36. | |
And the BBC understands that tennis star Andy Murray has become a father | :49:37. | :49:40. | |
after his wife Kim Sears gave birth to a girl over the weekend. | :49:41. | :49:44. | |
The couple were married in Dunblane last year. | :49:45. | :49:46. | |
A formal announcement is expected shortly. | :49:47. | :49:54. | |
Those are the main news stories. Now the sport. | :49:55. | :49:57. | |
Kenya could pull out of this year's Rio Olympics due to concerns over | :49:58. | :50:01. | |
the Zika virus outbreak in Brazil, according to the head | :50:02. | :50:03. | |
Kiptcho Kegayno says "Obviously, we are not going to risk taking | :50:04. | :50:07. | |
Kenyans there if this Zika Virus reaches epidemic levels." | :50:08. | :50:13. | |
The main sporting action to keep an eye on today will come in cricket | :50:14. | :50:16. | |
as England's one-day side look to seal a convincing series win over | :50:17. | :50:20. | |
They lead the best of five match-up 2-0 and will be hoping to replicate | :50:21. | :50:25. | |
the Test team's strong progress in the 9 month's under head | :50:26. | :50:28. | |
We will stick to our methods. It has been tried and tested and worked so | :50:29. | :50:39. | |
far. I think we are a good one-day side at the moment. I think we have | :50:40. | :50:52. | |
got things going for us in the last two games, and we will take it into | :50:53. | :50:56. | |
the next one. Hopefully tomorrow is the first one where we can knock off | :50:57. | :51:02. | |
playing the best cricket we can be. Whatever the team is, it doesn't | :51:03. | :51:06. | |
matter. They are very hungry. The mood in the camp, a lot of credit | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
goes to the coaching staff, who have kept the mood exceptionally good. | :51:11. | :51:12. | |
Liverpool face West Ham in an FA Cup fourth round replay tonight | :51:13. | :51:15. | |
at Upton Park, with Jurgen Klopp set to take his place in the visitors' | :51:16. | :51:18. | |
dugout just three days after having his appendix removed. | :51:19. | :51:21. | |
Klopp admits he will have to tone down his usual antics | :51:22. | :51:23. | |
on the sidelines, but insists he is raring to go. | :51:24. | :51:31. | |
I feel really good. That is the only reason why I am here. If I am not | :51:32. | :51:38. | |
fit, I cannot help here, I would be at home. But everything is OK and we | :51:39. | :51:41. | |
don't have to talk about this any more. For me, it is not a normal | :51:42. | :51:46. | |
coaching game. I don't want to jump or things like this, I have a few | :51:47. | :51:51. | |
holes in my body. Hopefully it stays in. That's all. | :51:52. | :51:53. | |
Meanwhile Chelsea defender Kurt Zouma's season is over | :51:54. | :51:55. | |
and he'll also miss Euro 2016 after injuring his knee. | :51:56. | :51:57. | |
He'll undergo surgery in the next 48 hours and is likely to be out | :51:58. | :52:00. | |
The 21-year-old France international injured his anterior | :52:01. | :52:06. | |
cruciate ligament during Sunday's Premier League draw | :52:07. | :52:07. | |
against Manchester United at Stamford Bridge. | :52:08. | :52:12. | |
The legendary British ski jumper Eddie the Eagle Edwards believes | :52:13. | :52:15. | |
contestants in the Channel 4 Show The Jump should bear the brunt | :52:16. | :52:18. | |
of the blame for any injuries they suffer. | :52:19. | :52:21. | |
The comments come as Britain's most successful gymnast Beth Tweddle | :52:22. | :52:23. | |
remains in hospital after neck surgery. | :52:24. | :52:27. | |
The London 2012 bronze medallist fell on the slopes | :52:28. | :52:30. | |
during rehearsals, and is the third contestant | :52:31. | :52:33. | |
That all the sport for now. I'll be back at 10:30am with the headlines. | :52:34. | :52:50. | |
More on that train crash in a moment. Quite a lot of you getting | :52:51. | :52:56. | |
in touch about dyslexia and workplace discrimination. That is | :52:57. | :53:01. | |
after a woman with the learning disability won a disconnection case | :53:02. | :53:04. | |
at a tribunal against Starbucks. Various comments from you. Lucy | :53:05. | :53:08. | |
says, I cannot believe this woman was treated like that by their | :53:09. | :53:13. | |
employer. I'm really pleased she still loves her job and won her | :53:14. | :53:18. | |
case. Richard says, I am dyslexic, jobs are difficult to get. I've been | :53:19. | :53:22. | |
trying to find employment for 14 years and being dyslexic is a big | :53:23. | :53:29. | |
hurdle. Most employers do not want to deal with that. As I'm not an | :53:30. | :53:33. | |
employee, there is nobody to go to for help. There are various | :53:34. | :53:38. | |
charities, Richard. Katie says she is dyslexic, I'm quite creative and | :53:39. | :53:42. | |
I think it can be positive, I often think outside the box. It's | :53:43. | :53:47. | |
important to remember it is not all about spelling. Some people have big | :53:48. | :53:51. | |
problems with spelling, but it is also about memory and ordering, | :53:52. | :53:58. | |
sequencing. Everybody is different. Get in touch throughout the | :53:59. | :54:04. | |
programme, texts or shoes charged up the standard network rate. You can | :54:05. | :54:11. | |
watch online or on the BBC News app. There has been a deadly train crash | :54:12. | :54:14. | |
in southern Germany. Police have reported at least eight people have | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
been killed and more than 100 others injured, many of them seriously. | :54:19. | :54:24. | |
Several carriages overturned after two trains collided near the town of | :54:25. | :54:28. | |
Bad Aibling in south-eastern Germany, about 60 kilometres from | :54:29. | :54:33. | |
Munich. The train operator said that both trains are partly derailed and | :54:34. | :54:37. | |
wedged into each other. The crash happened at around 7am this morning, | :54:38. | :54:41. | |
local time, on a single line of railway track. Rescue workers are | :54:42. | :54:49. | |
trying to pull out people trapped inside the wreckage and helicopters | :54:50. | :54:53. | |
are being used to airlift those that are badly injured to hospital. We | :54:54. | :55:04. | |
can talk now to a local radio journalist in Bavaria. In fact, he | :55:05. | :55:08. | |
is in Munich, about 40 miles away, but has been speaking to people at | :55:09. | :55:12. | |
the scene. What are people saying to you? People are saying that it is | :55:13. | :55:17. | |
still kind of chaotic, you know? After the crash, right now, we have | :55:18. | :55:22. | |
confirmed eight people have died. On the other hand, it might become much | :55:23. | :55:26. | |
more because there are still some victims in the trains, the two | :55:27. | :55:32. | |
trains, that could not be rescued so far. So, the number of five people | :55:33. | :55:37. | |
might increase within the next hour. OK, the police at the moment are | :55:38. | :55:40. | |
saying that eight people have died, but you are saying that number is | :55:41. | :55:44. | |
likely to go up over the next few hours? Yes, because there are 150 | :55:45. | :55:49. | |
injured people, some people that are injured very heavily and they might | :55:50. | :55:54. | |
die, you know? You can't say right now. On the other hand, thank God at | :55:55. | :56:02. | |
his school holidays, because the trains normally have plenty of | :56:03. | :56:06. | |
school students in. So we have school holidays in Bavaria, so we | :56:07. | :56:10. | |
did not have students in the train. I guess that most of the passengers | :56:11. | :56:16. | |
were people going to work. So, the trains could have been a lot more | :56:17. | :56:19. | |
crowded, thankfully, because of the school holidays they were not. | :56:20. | :56:27. | |
Obviously it is very early stages. But are there any theories as to why | :56:28. | :56:30. | |
two trains were travelling towards each other on the same piece of | :56:31. | :56:35. | |
track? Not really. Like you said, this was a single track. The two | :56:36. | :56:41. | |
trains collided and they actually used the same track. But nobody | :56:42. | :56:44. | |
knows right now widely used the same track. Probably, or maybe, one of | :56:45. | :56:49. | |
the engine drivers just did not pay attention to one of the train | :56:50. | :56:53. | |
signals. But I can't confirm that, nobody can confirm this theory right | :56:54. | :56:58. | |
now. Our audience is watching live pictures of the rescue operation as | :56:59. | :57:04. | |
it is ongoing. Can you tell us a little bit about this area? It | :57:05. | :57:09. | |
happened in a forest area and it is clearly not that easy to reach from | :57:10. | :57:14. | |
a rescue a point of view? Saky like you say. It is not far away from the | :57:15. | :57:20. | |
town of Bad Aibling, in the south-eastern part of Bavaria. It is | :57:21. | :57:25. | |
not really a remote area, but it is right over dense forest, so it is | :57:26. | :57:29. | |
hard to get the relief units there. It might be a time before all of the | :57:30. | :57:34. | |
victims are rescued. Thank you very much for talking to us, we | :57:35. | :57:38. | |
appreciate your time. That is a local radio journalist, with the | :57:39. | :57:39. | |
latest. With the latest, our news | :57:40. | :57:40. | |
correspondent Theo Leggett is here. I would like to pick up on what he | :57:41. | :57:49. | |
was saying, how did two trains and off on the same section of track? | :57:50. | :57:53. | |
Single-track railway is not that unusual in rural areas, in reasons | :57:54. | :57:56. | |
of cost or space, where there is not room to put two tracks in. So you | :57:57. | :58:01. | |
regulate carefully which trains are on that section of track at any one | :58:02. | :58:05. | |
time. The systems used can vary, it can be a simple token a driver has | :58:06. | :58:09. | |
to take before he proceeds into a section of track, one nowadays you | :58:10. | :58:13. | |
have complex signalling systems, automatic train protection systems | :58:14. | :58:21. | |
that are supposed to sign of warnings in the cab. Presumably | :58:22. | :58:25. | |
those warnings worked, why did the driver not stop? Was there an | :58:26. | :58:28. | |
automatic system that should have stopped him? We don't know what | :58:29. | :58:33. | |
systems were operating at the investigation will have to work that | :58:34. | :58:36. | |
out. It seems unusual that two trains were heading in opposite | :58:37. | :58:39. | |
directions on the same piece of track, that is absolutely to be | :58:40. | :58:41. | |
avoided. There are fears of a gangland feud | :58:42. | :58:43. | |
in Dublin after a man was shot dead It's understood this latest attack | :58:44. | :58:46. | |
is in retaliation for a shooting Four gunmen opened fire | :58:47. | :58:52. | |
in the Regency Hotel in Dublin at a weigh in ahead | :58:53. | :59:05. | |
of a boxing match. Those gathered had to run | :59:06. | :59:10. | |
for their lives as shots were fired. David Byrne - who had | :59:11. | :59:16. | |
links to criminal gangs - was killed and it's claimed his | :59:17. | :59:19. | |
shooting was in itself revenge. The gunmen had marched | :59:20. | :59:24. | |
in to the hotel disguised as police officers openly carrying | :59:25. | :59:26. | |
AK-47 assault rifles. Some of them were photographed | :59:27. | :59:31. | |
fleeing - one dressed as a woman. There have been suggestions | :59:32. | :59:39. | |
the dissident republican group the Continuity IRA could | :59:40. | :59:41. | |
have been involved. The man targeted was said to be | :59:42. | :59:44. | |
a member of the rival Real IRA. Police say they are | :59:45. | :59:55. | |
investigating all theories. Armed officers have been patrolling | :59:56. | :59:56. | |
the streets and manning But last night - four days later - | :59:57. | :59:58. | |
another man was shot dead in Dublin. Eddie Hutch Senior, | :59:59. | :00:03. | |
who was in his 50s, was killed near his flat in the north | :00:04. | :00:05. | |
of the city. The police fear it may have been | :00:06. | :00:08. | |
a reprisal for the hotel attack. Sinn Fein's Gerry Adams said | :00:09. | :00:11. | |
on Monday that this was simply a battle between what he described | :00:12. | :00:14. | |
as criminal thugs and any links He insisted the IRA are gone | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
and their weapons are gone. John Mooney is the security | :00:18. | :00:25. | |
Correspondent for the Sunday Times What is going on, do you think? | :00:26. | :00:38. | |
Well, I think it is two different criminal organisations attacking | :00:39. | :00:40. | |
each other. But one of them has support from paramilitaries based in | :00:41. | :00:48. | |
the Dublin area. These are people that are probably former members of | :00:49. | :00:51. | |
the Provisional IRA, who retains some weapons post decommissioning. | :00:52. | :00:58. | |
In terms of what might happen next, presumably the police are braced for | :00:59. | :01:05. | |
more tit-for-tat murders are they? I think it's beyond doubt that | :01:06. | :01:08. | |
there'll be more shootings in Dublin in the coming weeks. The murder of | :01:09. | :01:15. | |
Eddie Hutch last night is likely to provoke further retaliation strikes | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
by the grouping which has support from paramilitaries in Dublin. As | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
you see, there's weaponry that these people have available to them, they | :01:22. | :01:26. | |
also have a certain degree of know-how and also skills and | :01:27. | :01:30. | |
expertise at carrying out these attacks. So the Irish police have | :01:31. | :01:37. | |
absolutely no doubt whatsoever that they have to step up and increase | :01:38. | :01:41. | |
surveillance and step up security in certain parts of the city in | :01:42. | :01:44. | |
anticipation for what they believe could happen next. What do you make | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
of the fact that apparently the Continuity IRA said it carried out | :01:51. | :01:54. | |
the killing on Friday then later they said, actually it wasn't us? I | :01:55. | :02:01. | |
think the grouping that claimed responsibility, it's a very | :02:02. | :02:04. | |
factionalised organisation, it doesn't have a great degree of | :02:05. | :02:08. | |
support in the Dublin area. I think possibly what's happening is that it | :02:09. | :02:17. | |
was asked to claim responsibility to avert police from that particular | :02:18. | :02:22. | |
line of inquiry. I don't believe the Continuity IRA were responsible for | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
the assault on the Regency Hotel in Dublin last week. That's | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
interesting. Why does the Continuity IRA still exist? There are six or | :02:32. | :02:39. | |
seven factions of the IRA on both sides of the border along with the | :02:40. | :02:46. | |
Provisional IRA which has killed since the ceasefires, as recently as | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
last May. The rest of them are known as dissident Republican | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
organisations. There's various coalitions and factions of them. | :02:56. | :03:04. | |
Thank you very much. If you had a heart attack, | :03:05. | :03:09. | |
you'd be taken straight to the nearest A | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
department - wouldn't you? So why are patients with severe | :03:13. | :03:15. | |
mental health problems sent hundreds Well, it has to stop according | :03:16. | :03:17. | |
to a former boss of the NHS in England and the man who's just | :03:18. | :03:22. | |
been looking into why it happens. Among Lord Nigel Crisp's | :03:23. | :03:25. | |
recommendations are treating mental health patients the same as those | :03:26. | :03:27. | |
with physical conditions. Current estimates suggest that | :03:28. | :03:30. | |
around 500 mentally ill people have to travel over 50km to be admitted | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
into hospital every month. Last week, on this programme | :03:36. | :03:38. | |
we spoke to Pol Hodge - whose 18 year old daughter Chloe | :03:39. | :03:41. | |
spent two years in a mental health The problems happened with Chloe | :03:42. | :04:00. | |
when she sort of hit puberty. And then we discovered that there was no | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
out-of-hours, out of office care for young people with mental health | :04:05. | :04:09. | |
issues in Cornwall at all. In fact, one night she actually spent in the | :04:10. | :04:15. | |
kitchen of the police station because the police took her away. | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
The hospital wouldn't accept her so she spent the night wrapped in a | :04:20. | :04:25. | |
blanket in the kitchen at the local police station and then the episodes | :04:26. | :04:33. | |
increased and she was taken away to Somerset, put in a residential | :04:34. | :04:40. | |
placement which didn't have any mental health speciality and she was | :04:41. | :04:49. | |
moved on then to Stevenage which also didn't have any mental health | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
support in-house. She stopped taking her medication, made herself really | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
ill, then she was moved to Colchester, which is 350 miles away | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
from us and the problems are that she's a youngster, she's poorly and | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
we've just not been able to support her. She's got no chance of home | :05:09. | :05:16. | |
leave, she's been cut off from her family and her friends and that's | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
been ongoing. Let's talk now to Lord Crisp, | :05:21. | :05:23. | |
who's behind today's report which looks into the future of adult | :05:24. | :05:26. | |
mental health care services. Why does any Trust send a patient | :05:27. | :05:37. | |
with severe mental health difficulties away? They don't have | :05:38. | :05:40. | |
the resources locally. Does that mean beds? When we talk about acute | :05:41. | :05:46. | |
care, there are beds, but also home treatment services, that may mean | :05:47. | :05:49. | |
that you are at home and that people are coming in to see you two or | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
three times a day. There are advantages about home treat, as | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
opposed to beds, because it stops breaking all the social life, you | :05:58. | :06:01. | |
don't lose your tenancy if you are in housing or whatever else and it's | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
easier for rehabilitation. We think the biggest issue here in terms of | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
extra resource is about more home treatment. ? Right. But there are | :06:10. | :06:17. | |
plenty of Trusts who are able to treat patients with severe mental | :06:18. | :06:21. | |
health problems in the locality aren't they, why can't everybody do | :06:22. | :06:24. | |
it? You are absolutely right. There are three or four different issues | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
here. Firstly, sometimes the problem just lands on the Trust and the | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
entire system that surrounds it doesn't support it in doing it. One | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
of the big problems is housing. This is one of the most interactable | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
problems so you end up with acute wards with people on them who don't | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
need to be there. We did a survey and found that roughly 15% of | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
people, according to the consultants in charge of the wards didn't need | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
to be there and that offn the problem was there wasn't alternative | :06:54. | :06:55. | |
resources in the community for them to go to. Very often that was | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
housing. At the moment, there are some big problems about social | :07:01. | :07:03. | |
housing, is that's interactable. There are different issues in | :07:04. | :07:07. | |
different areas, but you are absolutely right, some do it well | :07:08. | :07:10. | |
and we need to learn from those people. You say it's unacceptable | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
and potentially dangerous, why? We are saying, forgot just about the | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
long distance treatment, it's actual about the difficulties of admission | :07:20. | :07:22. | |
because we make another recommendation which is that | :07:23. | :07:25. | |
everybody should be admitted within four hours after it's been decided | :07:26. | :07:28. | |
after they have been assessed. We all know of cases around the | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
country, happily not terribly many, where people haven't been admitted | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
or have been discharged early or something, and they have either hurt | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
themselves or somebody else. That's why it's potentially dangerous. The | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
stronger we make this system, the less likely it is that we'll see | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
those dreadful incidents. Is the Government listening? Will things | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
change because you have talked about resources, there is no money, health | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
is protected in terms of funding, that is what is said? There is a new | :07:59. | :08:04. | |
political will around, all political parties are talking about giving | :08:05. | :08:12. | |
mental health and physical health the same attention. There is a lot | :08:13. | :08:15. | |
of talk, but is the action backing up the rhetoric? That is our | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
challenge. Stop talking about it or do this and I've talked to ministers | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
and others in the last few days and people are really keen to support | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
these sorts of recommendations. Now, the Prime Minister on I think it was | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
January 11th, made a speech about additional money for mental health | :08:33. | :08:35. | |
and he talked specifically about home treatment and that's good. We | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
haven't seen that money, we don't know how much it is and whether it's | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
spread over five or one year, but to do this, you need a real focus, | :08:45. | :08:47. | |
primarily on home treatment but the other big issue is housing. Thank | :08:48. | :08:49. | |
you very much. The Shadow Home Secretary Andy | :08:50. | :08:59. | |
Burnham has warned that it may be impossible for Labour to reach | :09:00. | :09:03. | |
an agreed position on Trident. It comes after the Shadow Defence | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
Secretary Emily Thornberry faced questioning from Labour MPs last | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
night, during a presentation about her review of | :09:11. | :09:12. | |
the party's defence policy. Afterwards she was branded waffly | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
and incoherent by a former Shadow Defence Minister, | :09:17. | :09:18. | |
amid renewed party infighting over Our Political Guru, Norman Smith, | :09:19. | :09:20. | |
is in Westminster. Who is saying what and why and can | :09:21. | :09:32. | |
they reach a solution one day? It could be mission impossible frankly | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
such are the divisions in the party over whether they go along with | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
Jeremy Corbyn who doesn't want to renew the nuclear deterrent, or | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
whether they stick with the nuclear deterrent and build a new range of | :09:44. | :09:46. | |
submarine Toscary them. Certainly last night at the meeting of the | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
Parliamentary Labour Party when the new Shadow Defence Secretary, Emily | :09:52. | :09:55. | |
Thornberry was setting out her plans for a review, she was heckled by | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
Labour MPs. She had to ask them to keep quiet and let her get her | :10:01. | :10:03. | |
arguments over. The chairman at the meeting had to intervene to calm | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
things down. One Labour MP to her face said she was living in la-la | :10:08. | :10:12. | |
land. Neil Kinnock, the former Labour Leader when she emerged from | :10:13. | :10:17. | |
the meeting and was asked how did it go, just started laughing. I mean, | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
it did not go well, let's say that, albeit this morning Emily Thornberry | :10:23. | :10:25. | |
on the Today programme sought to play down the level of | :10:26. | :10:27. | |
disagreements. This is what she said. It's a hard job that I've been | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
given, I accept that it's a hard job. But I think that if people | :10:32. | :10:37. | |
proceed with goodwill and if we are prepared to go into this and look at | :10:38. | :10:41. | |
the evidence, the evidence will draw us to certain conclusions and we | :10:42. | :10:44. | |
need to have all the options on the table and we need to have a proper | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
debate within the party. Obviously, I mean it's been well rehearsed, | :10:50. | :10:55. | |
four, five, perhaps possibly six people at the PLP kicked off last | :10:56. | :11:01. | |
night but I don't think they necessarily represent the whole of | :11:02. | :11:07. | |
the Parliamentary... What has made this all together more difficult, | :11:08. | :11:10. | |
it's hard to see a compromise. Jeremy Corbyn suggested this idea of | :11:11. | :11:14. | |
building the submarines but not putting missiles on them. Now, | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
that's been dismissed by a lot of Labour MPs as just frankly not | :11:19. | :11:27. | |
credible. This morning the Shadow Home Secretary Andy Burnham said, | :11:28. | :11:31. | |
look, you know what, it may just be impossible to reach any sort of | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
compromise or agreed position on Trident. I believe the world is very | :11:37. | :11:42. | |
uncertain and I don't believe we can take a step on our own into the | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
unknown right now so I've set out my position, we always knew this would | :11:48. | :11:50. | |
be a difficult debate for the party, there are two positions difficult to | :11:51. | :11:55. | |
reconcile here, maybe impossible to reconcile and the party's got to | :11:56. | :11:59. | |
find some way of accommodating those positions and move forward and not | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
let this issue take over everything. Let me give you a sense of the | :12:05. | :12:09. | |
dismay in the party. There was one Labour MP, Madeline Moon, a member | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
of the Defence Select Committee, and immediately after the meeting of the | :12:14. | :12:19. | |
Parliamentary Labour Party, she tweeted this; oh, dear, oh, dear, | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
oh, my God, oh, dear, oh, dear, need to rest in a darkened room. A short | :12:26. | :12:32. | |
time ago I asked Ms Moon why she felt like that? Labour's policy is | :12:33. | :12:39. | |
very clear. We actually support the renewal of the deterrent. That's our | :12:40. | :12:43. | |
position. What worries me is that you can't have an open and honest | :12:44. | :12:48. | |
debate if what you are saying is, I would never use the deterrent, I | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
don't support the deterrent, but I'm doing a review. Now, that is not an | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
open and honest discussion. It's perfectly valid to have a position | :12:58. | :13:00. | |
where you don't support Trident. That's valid. But to say that your | :13:01. | :13:05. | |
position is that you are willing to discuss it when clearly you are not, | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
is forgot honest. That upsets me a great deal. So your sense is that | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
it's a fix in effect, that the decision has already been made, that | :13:15. | :13:17. | |
you are not going to support Trident? That's the feeling that we | :13:18. | :13:26. | |
are all getting. What worries me is, this discussion needs to be | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
wide-ranging and in-depth. I don't see much discussion with the other | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
members of NATO. Remember, Britain's nuclear deterrent is part of the | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
NATO arsenal, it's not just about the protection of Britain. It would | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
be called on by the 28 members to be used. We expect the members of NATO | :13:44. | :13:49. | |
to come to our defence and we to go to their defence. You cannot think | :13:50. | :13:52. | |
that we can get rid of a deterrent that's critical to the security of | :13:53. | :13:53. | |
the whole of Europe. Vic, you get some divisions in | :13:54. | :14:04. | |
politics which just can't be reconciled, you think of, I suppose, | :14:05. | :14:07. | |
the Conservative Party and the difficulties they've had over Europe | :14:08. | :14:10. | |
which has dogged them for years, you go back a while to, before the | :14:11. | :14:16. | |
Second World War, the disagreements over appeasement and rearmament, and | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
you kind of wonder actually whether Labour are facing a similar schism | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
over Trident. It's just simply not going to be possible to bridge the | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
divide between those who want to renew our nuclear deterrent and | :14:30. | :14:31. | |
those like Jeremy Corbyn who don't. So much so that some Labour MPs are | :14:32. | :14:36. | |
openly talking that at the next election if Jeremy Corbyn gets his | :14:37. | :14:40. | |
way and the party becomes a unilateralist party, they are going | :14:41. | :14:42. | |
to issue their own personal manifestos in which they'll say, | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
never mind what Jeremy Corbyn thinks, I personally remain | :14:47. | :14:49. | |
committed to renewing Trident. Thank you very much, Norman. | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
We could hear every word, crystal clear, sorry about the glitching on | :14:54. | :14:55. | |
the line though. Still to come, how a student with | :14:56. | :15:04. | |
leukaemia defied the odds to find a mixed race seven Ali stem cell | :15:05. | :15:12. | |
donor. And nearly eight out of 1010 to 12-year-olds in Britain have a | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
social media recount, despite a minimum age limit of 13. If you have | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
children under 13 and you let them on social media, get in touch and | :15:22. | :15:23. | |
explain yourself! At least eight people have died | :15:24. | :15:30. | |
and around 150 others have been injured in a head-on train crash | :15:31. | :15:33. | |
in Bavaria in southern Germany. Emergency services are using boats | :15:34. | :15:45. | |
and helicopters to carry people to hospital from the crash site, | :15:46. | :15:49. | |
trapped between a forest and a river. | :15:50. | :15:50. | |
A woman with dyslexia has won a disability discrimination case | :15:51. | :15:55. | |
against Starbucks after she was accused | :15:56. | :15:57. | |
Meseret Kumulchew was disciplined after she recorded times and | :15:58. | :16:06. | |
temperatures incorrectly. The NHS in England has been told | :16:07. | :16:09. | |
to stop sending mental health patients a long way | :16:10. | :16:12. | |
from home for care. An independent inquiry says | :16:13. | :16:14. | |
the practice is unacceptable A health watchdog has warned | :16:15. | :16:16. | |
that there is no such thing The National Institute for Health | :16:17. | :16:23. | |
and Care Excellence in England says the need for short term sun exposure | :16:24. | :16:27. | |
to build up Vitamin D has to be balanced against the | :16:28. | :16:30. | |
risks of skin cancer. The head of the technology giant | :16:31. | :16:32. | |
Google has become the highest-paid Sundar Pichai has been | :16:33. | :16:40. | |
awarded nearly 140 million pounds-worth of shares, | :16:41. | :16:42. | |
which happens to be ten million pounds more than Google recently | :16:43. | :16:44. | |
agreed to pay the UK government And Andy Murray has become a dad, | :16:45. | :16:55. | |
after his wife, Kim Sears, gave birth to a girl over the weekend. | :16:56. | :17:00. | |
Bookmakers are already quoting 250-1 that the little one grows up to win | :17:01. | :17:02. | |
Wimbledon. Kenyan officials say they will not | :17:03. | :17:14. | |
risk sending athletes to the Olympic Games in Brazil later this year, | :17:15. | :17:22. | |
should the Zika virus which academic levels. Former British Lions captain | :17:23. | :17:30. | |
Paul O'Connell has been Ali retired from rugby. After a hamstring injury | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
at the tournament he has been forced to stop playing. | :17:36. | :17:41. | |
England's one-day side look to seal a convincing series win over | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
You can listen on the BBC sport website from 11:15. | :17:45. | :17:54. | |
Liverpool face West Ham in an FA Cup fourth round replay tonight | :17:55. | :17:57. | |
at Upton Park, with Jurgen Klopp set to take his place in the visitors' | :17:58. | :18:00. | |
dugout just three days after having his appendix removed. | :18:01. | :18:02. | |
Beth Tweddle remains in hospital after neck surgery. She fell on the | :18:03. | :18:08. | |
slopes during rehearsals for the Channel 4 reality show The Jump. | :18:09. | :18:12. | |
That is all the sport for now, back with more on the news channel | :18:13. | :18:13. | |
throughout the day. We now know that eight people have | :18:14. | :18:19. | |
died in a head-on We now know that eight people have | :18:20. | :18:27. | |
two trains in the state of Bavaria. Up to 150 others are said to be | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
injured. A major rescue operation is underway. We can speak to a local | :18:33. | :18:35. | |
journalist who has just left the scene. What were you able to see? | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
There were hundreds of members of the rescue teams from Austria, from | :18:40. | :18:52. | |
the southern Bavarian region. They tried to get the injured people out | :18:53. | :19:00. | |
of the train by helicopters. They can't really land there. It's a very | :19:01. | :19:05. | |
narrow road, on one side of the train tracks there is a small | :19:06. | :19:15. | |
kennel, on the other side there is a little forest. It is a pretty hard | :19:16. | :19:20. | |
rescue action. The latest information I have got is that the | :19:21. | :19:26. | |
injured people are all in hospital, so they cryptic error of all of | :19:27. | :19:33. | |
them. This part of the rescue action is already done. -- so they can take | :19:34. | :19:40. | |
care of them. Anybody injured within the wreckage, they have pulled them | :19:41. | :19:48. | |
out? Sorry? Everybody trapped in the wreckage, the rescuers have managed | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
to get out? Yes, they are still working on the front side of the | :19:54. | :20:01. | |
train, they are very damaged. We are not sure, but we guess that they are | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
trying to get out the people that died in the train. Would you expect | :20:07. | :20:12. | |
the number of fatalities could rise as the hours pass? We are not sure. | :20:13. | :20:20. | |
We hope to get more information at the press conference right now, at | :20:21. | :20:25. | |
12 o'clock, where the German Minister of transportation is taking | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
part. He is supposed to arrive at the scene in a few minutes. After | :20:30. | :20:35. | |
that, we hope we get more information, we hope that the 150 | :20:36. | :20:44. | |
injured people is the last number. Thank you very much for talking to | :20:45. | :20:46. | |
us. A student who was diagnosed with an | :20:47. | :20:53. | |
aggressive form of leukaemia has found a stem cell donor after a | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
celebrity backed viral campaign inspired thousands to donate. She's | :20:59. | :21:04. | |
24, she needs a stem cell transplant but her unusual Thai and Italian | :21:05. | :21:15. | |
heritage meant that a mixed race donor was required. She has recorded | :21:16. | :21:20. | |
this video message. I am very excited to tell you some great news. | :21:21. | :21:25. | |
A well matching donor has been found. If all goes to plan, I will | :21:26. | :21:38. | |
go to transplant soon. It is kind of incredible to think that it is one | :21:39. | :21:42. | |
in 25 million. I know there is a long road ahead, but I want to thank | :21:43. | :21:50. | |
every single person that has been behind the Match4Lara campaign. | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
Thanks for everybody's efforts. There are still lots of donor drives | :21:55. | :21:59. | |
planned. I urge everybody who has not signed up yet to go to the donor | :22:00. | :22:08. | |
drives and sign up. From the very beginning, this campaign has been | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
not just about finding a match for me, but diversifying the donor | :22:14. | :22:16. | |
Registry and getting more people on the registry in general. There are | :22:17. | :22:22. | |
still plenty of people waiting to find their donor. The campaign, | :22:23. | :22:29. | |
called Match4Lara, has gained global attention and has been backed by the | :22:30. | :22:32. | |
Prime Minister, David Cameron, and various celebrities, including | :22:33. | :22:40. | |
Gareth Bale and JK Rowling, boot treated, the donor is desperately | :22:41. | :22:43. | |
needed to save this young woman's life. Stephen Fry asked his | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
followers to do something with your unique identity and save a life. | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
Mark Wahlberg gave his support, simply tweaking the link to the | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
website. Pink Floyd's Nick Mason urged fans to get the word out and | :22:58. | :23:03. | |
help save a life. Let's talk to Lara 's father, at University College | :23:04. | :23:11. | |
Hospital in central London. First, your reaction when you realised a | :23:12. | :23:16. | |
match had been found? Well, obviously it was amazing news. We | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
knew how difficult it was going to be. We were really overjoyed. Do you | :23:22. | :23:27. | |
know whereabouts this donor lives? No, this has been kept confidential | :23:28. | :23:35. | |
for the next two years, we will not know. But a big thank you goes to | :23:36. | :23:41. | |
him or her, wherever they may be. What happens now, in terms of this | :23:42. | :23:47. | |
donor giving their stem cells? Well, the donor will have to go through a | :23:48. | :23:53. | |
relatively simple procedure, which is analogous to giving blood. There | :23:54. | :23:59. | |
will be hooked up to a machine for about four hours. After a few days | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
of drug treatment, the machine basically collects stem cells from | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
the blood and then puts the blood back into the system. In terms of | :24:10. | :24:18. | |
transferring them to Lara The bags will travel one kilometre, 10,000 | :24:19. | :24:25. | |
miles, we don't know where they are coming from. They will be shipped | :24:26. | :24:31. | |
within 48 hours, or something like that. At that point, Lara will have | :24:32. | :24:38. | |
already gone through a feud days of serious chemotherapy and | :24:39. | :24:41. | |
radiotherapy, to wipe out her immune system. She will be receiving the | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
cells. So does require a lot of coordination from teams | :24:47. | :24:52. | |
internationally. It is not over, is it? There is quite a way to go? Of | :24:53. | :24:57. | |
course, the treatment, it is part of it. Before the new stem cells will | :24:58. | :25:06. | |
become part of the immune system, it will take a while. It is at least 18 | :25:07. | :25:14. | |
months before the doctor can say, yes, this has fully worked. But, of | :25:15. | :25:20. | |
course, hopefully, there are various steps in between that will give | :25:21. | :25:26. | |
encouragement that things are going in the right direction. We wish you | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
all the best, and to Lara, as well. Yes, thank you. Thank you for your | :25:31. | :25:37. | |
time. Before 11, Moore on fracking and children's social media | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
accounts. We wanted to show you some pretty incredible pictures of | :25:42. | :25:44. | |
lightning from space. Why not? They have just been posted on Twitter by | :25:45. | :25:49. | |
Tim Peake. Straight from the International Space Station. He said | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
this. Amazing how much lightning can strike our planet in a short time. | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
Flying from North Africa, over Turkey, towards Russia in this | :25:59. | :26:02. | |
time-lapse. Let's look again. Absolutely stunning. Posted by Tim | :26:03. | :26:10. | |
Peake, the British astronaut, on the International Space Station right | :26:11. | :26:13. | |
now. He should be doing some work, shouldn't he? | :26:14. | :26:23. | |
Hundreds of people are gathering at Blackpool Football Club. Cuadrilla | :26:24. | :26:30. | |
is trying to overturn a decision to ban drilling on two site in rural | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
Lancashire. The debate has become heated, with both sides accusing the | :26:35. | :26:38. | |
other of distorting the facts or scaremongering. Jim Reid has been | :26:39. | :26:43. | |
speaking to the chief Executive of Cuadrilla ahead of the public | :26:44. | :26:44. | |
inquiry. Would you personally be happy | :26:45. | :26:46. | |
to live a couple of hundred meters Yes, I'd have no problem | :26:47. | :26:49. | |
with that at all. I've worked in the oil and gas | :26:50. | :26:52. | |
industry all my career, 30 years, and particularly | :26:53. | :26:55. | |
here in the UK it has the highest standards of safety | :26:56. | :26:57. | |
and environmental responsibility of any industry, I would | :26:58. | :26:59. | |
say, in the country. But it would be pretty obvious | :27:00. | :27:01. | |
you were living near it. Well, during the construction phase | :27:02. | :27:04. | |
it is like a construction site, but I think what people often forget | :27:05. | :27:06. | |
is that the production phase of the site is vastly longer | :27:07. | :27:09. | |
than the construction phase. Typically, construction, | :27:10. | :27:12. | |
drilling takes about two years but the site can be in operation | :27:13. | :27:14. | |
for 20 or 25 years after that. Certainly during the drilling phase | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
it's like a construction site, but during the production phase | :27:19. | :27:21. | |
you will not know it's there, producing gas - you can't see | :27:22. | :27:24. | |
it, hear it, smell it. But that's still two | :27:25. | :27:27. | |
years of disruption. The country needs natural gas, | :27:28. | :27:28. | |
everybody in the country uses natural gas, so if we don't | :27:29. | :27:32. | |
produce our own we're going to be reliant on imports, | :27:33. | :27:35. | |
increasingly from North Africa, Our point of view, and I think a lot | :27:36. | :27:37. | |
of people would agree, it makes much more sense | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
to develop it here. Why does it make more | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
sense to develop it here? Because one, it's more | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
environmentally friendly, because if you're going to import it | :27:49. | :27:50. | |
all the way in a pipeline from Siberia then that's | :27:51. | :27:53. | |
going to use a lot more energy, Two, it's going to be more | :27:54. | :27:55. | |
expensive. Three, it's going to be | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
infinitely less secure. But we're always going to be buying | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
gas, this country is not going to be self-sufficient in gas | :28:05. | :28:08. | |
even if fracking takes off in the way you and the | :28:09. | :28:09. | |
Government think it will. It's a fair point, | :28:10. | :28:12. | |
but every bit helps. In Lancashire, you lost | :28:13. | :28:15. | |
the original case last year. Why now take it to appeal, | :28:16. | :28:18. | |
why have a second go? I wouldn't describe it | :28:19. | :28:22. | |
as having a second go, Everybody has the right of appeal | :28:23. | :28:24. | |
in a planning context, We firmly believe that the decision | :28:25. | :28:29. | |
that was taken by the county councillors was wrong, | :28:30. | :28:35. | |
and the county council's own planning officer | :28:36. | :28:38. | |
recommended it be approved, their own legal QC went | :28:39. | :28:42. | |
into writing to tell them that, whilst they could turn it down, | :28:43. | :28:45. | |
they had the right to turn it down, it would be, in his words, | :28:46. | :28:48. | |
irresponsible to do that. Polls do show that more people | :28:49. | :28:52. | |
support fracking in this country nationwide than oppose it, | :28:53. | :28:56. | |
but that difference has Is that a concern for you, | :28:57. | :28:58. | |
that you're losing the PR battle? This is not an industry that's | :28:59. | :29:06. | |
going to be there for a year or two. It's hopefully going to be | :29:07. | :29:09. | |
there for 20 or 30 years, If you were to start coal | :29:10. | :29:12. | |
mining today, for example, I'm sure you'd have lots of people | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
who'd say we should never do this, But what you find with anything, | :29:17. | :29:20. | |
mobile phone masts, wind farms, etc, It's not, "We're going | :29:21. | :29:26. | |
to convince everybody." I don't think we're going | :29:27. | :29:33. | |
to convince everybody. I'm sure there will be people | :29:34. | :29:35. | |
on this programme who say they'll never be convinced, but you need | :29:36. | :29:38. | |
to get on and do something. We, as a country, need to get | :29:39. | :29:41. | |
on and do something, because we can't just rely | :29:42. | :29:43. | |
on everybody else to provide The boss of Cuadrilla, speaking to | :29:44. | :29:46. | |
Jim Reid. Would you - or have you - | :29:47. | :29:55. | |
allowed your 10, 11 or 12 year old to use Instagram, | :29:56. | :29:59. | |
Snapchat or Facebook? You shouldn't because the minimum | :30:00. | :30:00. | |
age is 13 and yet a survey released to mark Safer Internet Day has found | :30:01. | :30:03. | |
that nearly 80% of 10-12 year olds in the UK have a social | :30:04. | :30:07. | |
media account. It was commissioned | :30:08. | :30:09. | |
by BBC Newsround. It found that while the majority | :30:10. | :30:10. | |
of young kids had a generally positive experience on social media, | :30:11. | :30:13. | |
a significant minority said someone else had been rude, | :30:14. | :30:15. | |
unkind or trolled them. The four most-popular accounts | :30:16. | :30:18. | |
mentioned by the children were Facebook, YouTube, | :30:19. | :30:20. | |
Instagram and Snapchat. The minimum age for | :30:21. | :30:24. | |
a Facebook account is 13. It's the same for | :30:25. | :30:26. | |
Instagram and Snapchat. YouTube says it's only intended | :30:27. | :30:29. | |
for children age 13 or over. There is no consistency among | :30:30. | :30:33. | |
minimum ages on social media, for example Twitter doesn't require | :30:34. | :30:35. | |
an age but for Whatsapp it's 16. Our reporter Peter Coulter headed | :30:36. | :30:40. | |
to Poole Park Primary School in north London to ask a group | :30:41. | :30:42. | |
of year sixes whether they use social media and what | :30:43. | :30:46. | |
they look at online. Hello, I'm ten years | :30:47. | :30:55. | |
old and I use Instagram. Hello, I'm 11 years old and I don't | :30:56. | :30:58. | |
use any social media. Hello, I'm 11 years | :30:59. | :31:03. | |
old and I'm on Snapchat. Hello, I'm 11 years old and I use | :31:04. | :31:07. | |
Facebook and Twitter. Hello, I'm 11 years old, | :31:08. | :31:13. | |
it's my birthday today Hello, I'm 10 years old, | :31:14. | :31:17. | |
and I don't use any social medias. So how many of you have put | :31:18. | :31:27. | |
in a fake age in order to set Well, because they don't | :31:28. | :31:33. | |
let like little ones, I used a different age but it's been | :31:34. | :31:40. | |
a long time so I can't remember The social media I'm using, | :31:41. | :31:44. | |
Snapchat, it has kids mode and higher and, to not be | :31:45. | :31:48. | |
on the kids mode because on the kids mode all you do is draw, | :31:49. | :31:52. | |
so I decided that I want to make a fake age so I can be | :31:53. | :31:56. | |
counted as older than I am. For my Snapchat I put it on kids | :31:57. | :32:02. | |
mode because I am a kid So you're all saying you're | :32:03. | :32:09. | |
on social media but you know you are not supposed to be on it | :32:10. | :32:19. | |
because you're under 13. How many of your parents know that | :32:20. | :32:22. | |
you're using these apps? I text my dad from Twitter | :32:23. | :32:25. | |
and my mum from Facebook. But they don't know | :32:26. | :32:34. | |
about my friends. Well, my mother doesn't actually | :32:35. | :32:37. | |
know that I use Snapchat but one day I had Snapchat and I told her | :32:38. | :32:49. | |
about it and she thought as long And I didn't like that, | :32:50. | :32:53. | |
so I decided, OK that's it I'm done with this, I'm not doing kids mode | :32:54. | :33:04. | |
any more, I want to act like I'm So have you been added by many | :33:05. | :33:08. | |
people that you don't know? Basically one time I was putting my | :33:09. | :33:16. | |
volume up for my alarm and then suddenly I got a text message | :33:17. | :33:23. | |
and a link to a website and it was an estimated number | :33:24. | :33:28. | |
and it was like women who use Viber I gave my phone to my mother | :33:29. | :33:34. | |
and she wrote down the number and ever since then I've been | :33:35. | :33:41. | |
having to delete many, many numbers and profiles | :33:42. | :33:45. | |
that I don't know. In terms of the people that follow | :33:46. | :33:51. | |
you, is it just your friends, or do other people follow | :33:52. | :33:57. | |
you on Snapchat and do other people follow you on Facebook and Twitter | :33:58. | :34:02. | |
that you don't know? So you do get requests from people | :34:03. | :34:06. | |
you don't know? And from adults, mostly | :34:07. | :34:17. | |
adults do you think, Neither of you are | :34:18. | :34:25. | |
on social media. Because my parents, they don't | :34:26. | :34:31. | |
let me go on it and once my big brother, he had Facebook but then | :34:32. | :34:37. | |
some random people started liking him and then my mum told him | :34:38. | :34:40. | |
to change his Facebook account but then the same people | :34:41. | :34:46. | |
keep on following him. They sent him disgusting pictures | :34:47. | :34:52. | |
then my mum just deleted it, she's never let us go | :34:53. | :35:03. | |
on any social medias. Let's talk to two parents about how | :35:04. | :35:11. | |
they manage what their children get John Robert writes the blog | :35:12. | :35:14. | |
Dad You Geek, he has two And Deborah Hodge has a daughter | :35:15. | :35:19. | |
of 12 and a daughter of nine, Your two-year-old you say knows how | :35:20. | :35:37. | |
to use a tablet? Yes. Because you let her? I do let her. It's more of | :35:38. | :35:45. | |
a necessity rather than a want. It keeps her quiet while I'm busy | :35:46. | :35:50. | |
working from home. A lot of parents let their toddlers watch YouTube | :35:51. | :35:53. | |
because there are a lot of cartoons on there. Yes, I mean I know what | :35:54. | :36:01. | |
she's doing. Eight out of ten 10-12-year-olds have a social media | :36:02. | :36:05. | |
account. Surprised in any way at all by that? Not at all. Even though you | :36:06. | :36:13. | |
are supposed to be 13? It's recommended. They are different | :36:14. | :36:17. | |
mental ages so it's down to your own judgment. You know your kids better | :36:18. | :36:22. | |
than most people. You think most of that 80% have asked permission from | :36:23. | :36:25. | |
their parents? I don't know if most have. No. What about your own kids, | :36:26. | :36:30. | |
what are they on and are you aware of everything and have you let them? | :36:31. | :36:35. | |
My daughter, the 12-year-old, she was on Twitter and I saw a tablet | :36:36. | :36:45. | |
and a laptop open, belonging to her, I went mental, I said, you can't be | :36:46. | :36:50. | |
on Twitter, because I was worried about what she was going to be | :36:51. | :36:54. | |
exposed to. She went underground with it. It was lick a game of | :36:55. | :36:58. | |
tennis, she'd lock it down and then go back on it. I said, you can be on | :36:59. | :37:03. | |
it as long as I've got your password and one of my friends who's got | :37:04. | :37:08. | |
20,000 followers, she monitors what Eleanor is doing so I have a sense | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
that I can see what she's up to and I don't feel as bad about Twitter, | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
although I have seen some images myself. Images, pornography you are | :37:18. | :37:22. | |
talking about? Yes. I've been followed by some people that have | :37:23. | :37:27. | |
sent me things. Eleanor's picture is quite demure, it's not sexualised, | :37:28. | :37:31. | |
so I do monitor and I think it's better to be able to see what | :37:32. | :37:32. | |
so I do monitor and I think it's doing, rather than her going into | :37:33. | :37:37. | |
her bedroom and being on social media alone. It's all about having | :37:38. | :37:41. | |
that conversation with your kids. Like anything with children, if you | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
try to take it from them without any conversation, they are going to | :37:46. | :37:48. | |
rebel. Why are we letting them under the age of 13 when that is the | :37:49. | :37:53. | |
recommended age? It's recommended by the social network, there is no | :37:54. | :37:57. | |
statutory law, so... Absolutely. Personally for me, Katie doesn't | :37:58. | :38:01. | |
have Twitter, she has an account so we tag her in tweets when we are | :38:02. | :38:07. | |
out, she never comments on that, but she has Snapchat, that's more of an | :38:08. | :38:11. | |
interaction thing with her family and friends and I would rather her | :38:12. | :38:15. | |
take part in that than be excluded. As long as you talk to them about | :38:16. | :38:20. | |
proper use and the dangers, if it's not controlled, you are not using | :38:21. | :38:24. | |
the right security settings, then it can be scary. You have had that | :38:25. | :38:30. | |
conversation about privacy settings? Yes and we have privacy settings on | :38:31. | :38:41. | |
her I pad and I phone. She's God her own I pad and I phone? Yes. How old | :38:42. | :38:49. | |
is she? 11. Blimey, John! That's not about being geeky. Isn't that | :38:50. | :38:55. | |
obscene? Why? Because it's two pieces of kit which are practically | :38:56. | :39:00. | |
the same, both really expensive. IPhone what, not a 6S? No, a 5 C, | :39:01. | :39:07. | |
the basic one. Wow, I am so old-fashioned, I cannot believe it. | :39:08. | :39:10. | |
What about your own? Gosh, I'm in the same boat. My youngest has got a | :39:11. | :39:15. | |
tablet now. Tell me it's got all the privacy settings on and all that? | :39:16. | :39:23. | |
Erm... Yeah. You don't know, do you? No. I'm not a geek. I'm not a geek | :39:24. | :39:30. | |
and I can do it. My kids use their equipment in the living room so if I | :39:31. | :39:34. | |
can't see what they are doing, then they shouldn't be on it. So we have | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
got an open-door policy so I can see what they are up to all the time. In | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
answer to your question, it's really difficult. My daughter Eleanor | :39:44. | :39:49. | |
didn't have a phone up until year 8, she didn't have an iPad. So that is | :39:50. | :39:54. | |
the second year of secondary school? Yes, she didn't have any of it and | :39:55. | :39:59. | |
it was difficult to get hold of her and there's peer pressure, there's a | :40:00. | :40:04. | |
lot of peer pressure, then you get the guilt as a parent, so it was | :40:05. | :40:09. | |
just this Christmas that I decided to get those for them. I fought | :40:10. | :40:14. | |
against it for a long time, I don't agree with it but we are in an age | :40:15. | :40:19. | |
where it's everywhere. My son, he's 19 now, when he was 11, he was sent | :40:20. | :40:27. | |
some pictures that I found online. Pornographic pictures? Very, yes. | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
Who sent them to him? A friend? I don't know. Knowing now, I would | :40:33. | :40:38. | |
have called the police, I would have called Facebook, I would have been | :40:39. | :40:42. | |
proactive but at the time, I was just shocked. He was experimenting | :40:43. | :40:48. | |
with sexuality, he's gay and so it was a target, it seemed like a | :40:49. | :40:51. | |
target that men were sending pictures so I learnt a lot from that | :40:52. | :40:54. | |
but I learnt the hard way. He's doing OK now, he's got a job in | :40:55. | :40:59. | |
London working for social media company, he works in the digital | :41:00. | :41:04. | |
market, so it's done him good stead, but if my girls got sent anything | :41:05. | :41:09. | |
like that... Katie has unfortunately and that wasn't through a social | :41:10. | :41:12. | |
network, it was an app that you share two pictures and like which | :41:13. | :41:16. | |
one you prefer and a friend shared an account with her through that app | :41:17. | :41:20. | |
which has very few security settings and she saw pictures that you | :41:21. | :41:23. | |
wouldn't ever want your kids to see. We dealt with that and had to have | :41:24. | :41:27. | |
the conversation with the other girl's parents. That's awful. Thank | :41:28. | :41:30. | |
you very much for sharing your experiences, thank you for coming on | :41:31. | :41:34. | |
the programme. You can see full details of the survey on the BBC | :41:35. | :41:38. | |
Newsround website and, if you have any concerns about your child's use | :41:39. | :41:41. | |
of social media, join the BBC News Channel at 11. 30, they are going to | :41:42. | :41:46. | |
put your questions to a child Internet safety expert. | :41:47. | :41:56. | |
Thanks for all your comments today and comments about dyslexia and the | :41:57. | :42:04. | |
discrimination that quite a few of you have experienced at work. It | :42:05. | :42:14. | |
follows the case of a woman who won an employment tribunal case against | :42:15. | :42:19. | |
Starbucks. She was disciplined after being accused of falsifying | :42:20. | :42:23. | |
documents. I wanted to commit suicide because... | :42:24. | :42:33. | |
I'm not a fraud. The name fraud itself is just, it shouldn't exist | :42:34. | :42:40. | |
for me. It's quite serious. So... Sorry, I'm crying. Yes, I mean, I | :42:41. | :42:48. | |
completely nearly ended my life. But I had to think of my kids. That's | :42:49. | :42:52. | |
the sort of way that made me bounce back. What do you feel about your | :42:53. | :42:58. | |
job? I love my job. I love my job because it gives me the interaction | :42:59. | :43:03. | |
of a different kind of people, educated, disabled, non- | :43:04. | :43:08. | |
non-disabled, so many different customers that I meet and giving | :43:09. | :43:14. | |
them a coffee, it might not be a big deal, but to me, I'm making their | :43:15. | :43:20. | |
life for the day at least happy. Thanks to those who got in touch | :43:21. | :43:25. | |
with your own experiences. Ged is 17, he has dyslexia, trying to find | :43:26. | :43:30. | |
a job at my age is already hard but having dyslexia makes it even more | :43:31. | :43:35. | |
so. Julian says I'm dyslexic, was bullied horribly in my first job and | :43:36. | :43:39. | |
left to go to university, it was my second employer who picked up on my | :43:40. | :43:43. | |
dyslexia and paid me to have an assessment or paid to get me to have | :43:44. | :43:48. | |
an assessment. I now have three degrees and successful career. | :43:49. | :43:50. | |
Brilliant. Thank you very much for watching today. We are back tomorrow | :43:51. | :43:54. | |
at 9. 156789 have a good day. | :43:55. | :43:58. |