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Hello it's Tuesday, it's 9:00am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, | :00:08. | :00:10. | |
Rape prevention classes for migrants. They are already happening | :00:11. | :00:22. | |
in Norway, but should they be rolled out two of the European countries, | :00:23. | :00:25. | |
including the UK. One image used is of a western | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
women in a short skirt. The men are asked what they think | :00:30. | :00:32. | |
she does for a living. You've got till midnight tonight | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
if you want to have your say on one of the most important political | :00:36. | :00:42. | |
decisions you'll ever get to make. I absolutely want to vote | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
because it's a really But at the moment I have no | :00:46. | :00:47. | |
idea which way to vote because there isn't anything out | :00:48. | :00:53. | |
there for me to base my decision on. to the headquarters of one | :00:54. | :01:04. | |
of Europe's largest sports retailers We might find out later this morning | :01:05. | :01:09. | |
when the billionaire founder of sports direct faces MPs questions | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
about the working conditions Hello, welcome to the programme, | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
we're live until 11:00. Throughout the programme we'll bring | :01:16. | :01:27. | |
you the latest breaking news and developing stories - | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
and, as always, really keen to hear from you on all the stories we're | :01:31. | :01:34. | |
talking about this morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE | :01:35. | :01:37. | |
and If you text, you will be charged Our main news - today | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
is the deadline for those wanting to register to vote | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
in the referendum on the UK's Applications need to be | :01:46. | :01:48. | |
in by midnight. Yesterday, 226,000 | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
registered to vote - the largest number on any | :01:53. | :01:55. | |
day so far. The politicians say it's the most | :01:56. | :01:58. | |
important decision in a generation. But if voters aren't registered | :01:59. | :02:05. | |
then their voices won't be heard, and today is deadline day, | :02:06. | :02:07. | |
with registration I just keep forgetting | :02:08. | :02:10. | |
because of work. I keep thinking, "I'll do it | :02:11. | :02:17. | |
tonight," but keep putting it off. The Government changed | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
the way people registered. Traditionally, the head | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
of the household would put down young people as they became 17 years | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
old and they naturally end up That hasn't happened, | :02:32. | :02:34. | |
and it's meant a lot of people who expect to be on | :02:35. | :02:38. | |
the register aren't. If you're over the age of 18, | :02:39. | :02:41. | |
you're from Britain, Ireland or the Commonwealth | :02:42. | :02:43. | |
and you live in the United Kingdom, This is the Government website | :02:44. | :02:46. | |
you will need in order It's dead easy, it takes | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
just five minutes. But remember, you'll | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
need your national insurance number. If you don't know it, | :02:56. | :02:57. | |
it's on your pay slip, your P60, or on your | :02:58. | :03:00. | |
student loan form. To encourage as many people | :03:01. | :03:01. | |
as possible, the Electoral Commission has been running a public | :03:02. | :03:04. | |
awareness campaign on Facebook There is a second deadline for those | :03:05. | :03:06. | |
voters heading off on holiday. 5pm tomorrow is the last chance | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
for people living in England, Scotland and Wales to request | :03:12. | :03:14. | |
a postal vote. The deadline to apply in | :03:15. | :03:18. | |
Northern Ireland has already passed. Then there's just that one other | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
date to remember - June 23rd is just over | :03:24. | :03:25. | |
two weeks away. Let's chat to Norman | :03:26. | :03:33. | |
Smith at Westminster. Norman, both sides, what are they | :03:34. | :03:46. | |
campaigning on today? There is a familiar pattern to this referendum | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
now with the Brexit camp focusing on immigration and David Cameron | :03:52. | :03:57. | |
focusing on the economy. Labour focusing on employment rights and | :03:58. | :04:00. | |
how they say they will be stripped away if we leave the European Union. | :04:01. | :04:09. | |
But the second map -- Remain side said the boss of Hitachi awarding | :04:10. | :04:15. | |
jobs will be lost if we leave the European Union. But again, stressing | :04:16. | :04:23. | |
the threats to workers' rights, equal pay and maternity pay. As for | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
the Brexit team they produce this data of 50 foreign EU criminals who | :04:28. | :04:33. | |
have committed things like rape, robbery and murder and who they say | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
we cannot deport because EU law trumps British law. They say these | :04:39. | :04:43. | |
criminals are claiming under EU freedom of new mint and they have a | :04:44. | :04:49. | |
right to stay here. They say that shows we have lost control of our | :04:50. | :05:00. | |
own judicial system. Come on Tom, a bit more of a song. He has gone shy. | :05:01. | :05:06. | |
Thank you very much, Norman. Joanna Gosling is in the BBC | :05:07. | :05:13. | |
Newsroom with a summary The founder of Sports Direct has | :05:14. | :05:14. | |
written to staff saying he has "nothing to hide" as he prepares | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
to answer questions from MPs about working | :05:20. | :05:21. | |
conditions at the company's Mike Ashley had originally said | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
he would not appear before the Commons committee, | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
but changed his mind He says he wants to defend | :05:29. | :05:31. | |
the firm's "good name", though he acknowledges that some | :05:32. | :05:36. | |
procedures at the site The company's chief executive | :05:37. | :05:38. | |
is to forgo a ?4 million bonus. It looks like Hillary Clinton has | :05:39. | :05:44. | |
won enough votes to secure the Democratic party nomination | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
for president of the United States - according to one news | :05:49. | :05:50. | |
agency's tally of delegates. But her rival Bernie Sanders says | :05:51. | :05:52. | |
it's too early for the media Six states, including California, | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
hold primaries today. Here's our Los Angeles correspondent | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
James Cook. All smiles in California and no | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
wonder - Hillary Clinton As she took to the stage | :06:06. | :06:08. | |
in Los Angeles, the news flashed she had enough support to win | :06:09. | :06:14. | |
the Democratic nomination, I've got to tell you, | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
according to the news, we are on the brink of an historic, | :06:19. | :06:26. | |
historic, unprecedented moment. But we still have | :06:27. | :06:32. | |
work to do, don't we? Bernie Sanders insists | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
the nomination won't be confirmed until the Democrats' | :06:38. | :06:43. | |
convention next month. Right now it's only support pledged | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
by party officials which pushes This campaign is about ending | :06:48. | :06:49. | |
a corrupt campaign finance system in which super packs | :06:50. | :06:56. | |
and billionaires are For months now, Donald Trump's | :06:57. | :06:59. | |
takeover of the Republican party has divided the United States | :07:00. | :07:11. | |
and captivated the world. But the battle which now takes | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
centre stage is for the soul of the Democratic party, | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
with Hillary Clinton standing In Turkey, 11 people have been | :07:19. | :07:21. | |
killed and at least 36 injured Turkish officials say seven | :07:22. | :07:31. | |
of the dead were police officers. The bomb exploded during the morning | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
rush hour and is believed to have No group has yet said it | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
carried out the attack. Scientists have devised a blood test | :07:41. | :07:47. | |
which could ensure that people with depression get more | :07:48. | :07:49. | |
effective medication sooner. Doctors currently give | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
anti-depressants on a trial and error basis, so some patients | :07:54. | :07:55. | |
wait for months before Researchers at King's College London | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
say large-scale clinical Dr Carmine Pariane, who's received | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
funding from pharmaceutical companies to research depression, | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
says there's hope the new test In the future, using this broadcast, | :08:10. | :08:28. | |
the GP will be able to know the best drug for the patients, rather than a | :08:29. | :08:38. | |
more complex with a combination of antidepressants which will make them | :08:39. | :08:40. | |
better, sooner. There are calls for male refugees | :08:41. | :08:45. | |
and migrants arriving in the UK to be offered classes on how | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
to treat women. Controversial rape prevention | :08:50. | :08:51. | |
classes have been running in Norway for several years now and supporters | :08:52. | :08:53. | |
would like to see them introduced It comes after more than 100 women | :08:54. | :08:56. | |
and girls were sexually assaulted by gangs of mainly migrant men | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
in the German city of Cologne We'll bring you an exclusive report | :09:02. | :09:04. | |
from the Norwegian classes next. Dozens of schoolchildren have been | :09:05. | :09:07. | |
rescued by helicopter and lifeboat after becoming trapped by the rising | :09:08. | :09:10. | |
tide on a beach in Kent. The group of 34 teenagers and two | :09:11. | :09:13. | |
adults -- from a school in London -- were hiking when they become stuck | :09:14. | :09:17. | |
between St Margaret's Bay and Dover. They used lights on their mobile | :09:18. | :09:19. | |
phones to help rescue Plans to regenerate the Tees Valley | :09:20. | :09:22. | |
will be announced today in a report by the former deputy prime minister, | :09:23. | :09:31. | |
Lord Heseltine. More than 2,000 jobs were lost | :09:32. | :09:33. | |
after Redcar's SSI steel works Lord Heseltine has been looking | :09:34. | :09:35. | |
at ways to attract jobs He's suggesting a new development | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
corporation, more starter homes The actor, Will Smith, | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
and the former world heavyweight boxing champion, | :09:46. | :09:51. | |
Lennox Lewis, are to be pallbearers Smith played Ali in the 2001 | :09:52. | :09:54. | |
movie of the same name, earning an Oscar nomination | :09:55. | :09:59. | |
and becoming a family friend. Lewis is one of three boxers along | :10:00. | :10:02. | |
with Ali and Evander Holyfield to have held the heavyweight | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
title three times. Former Chelsea doctor | :10:06. | :10:12. | |
Eva Carneiro's employment tribunal Yesterday, it emerged that | :10:13. | :10:15. | |
Dr Carneiro rejected more than ?1 million to settle her claim | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
for constructive dismissal. Dr Carneiro is also bringing | :10:21. | :10:23. | |
separate legal action against former manager Jose Mourinho, who left | :10:24. | :10:25. | |
the club in December, for alleged Check out this CCTV footage | :10:26. | :10:28. | |
from a jewellery shop in eastern India - yes that's a monkey | :10:29. | :10:42. | |
going into the shop here it is opening up the cash | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
drawer and stuffing a bundle The shop owner did try to tempt | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
the monkey with some fruit It got away with over | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
?100 worth of cash. I will be back at 9:30 a.m.. There | :10:55. | :11:14. | |
has got to be a joke there, but I cannot think of one. Perhaps the | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
audience will tweet me one. In the next few minues we'll bring | :11:18. | :11:20. | |
you exclusive access to those rape prevention classes migrant men | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
take in Norway. Do get in touch with us | :11:24. | :11:26. | |
throughout the morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE | :11:27. | :11:30. | |
and if you text, you will be charged Here's the sport now | :11:31. | :11:33. | |
with Jessica Creighton - If you are Jamie Vardy, would you go | :11:34. | :11:51. | |
to Arsenal? He has had a successful season, but you can't blame him to | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
be tempted away by Arsenal, expecting to earn ?40,000 a week, | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
more at Arsenal. Roy Hodgson has said, with only three days to go | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
before the European Championships, he is hoping Jamie Vardy makes his | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
decision before they begin their campaign. Has been all over the back | :12:10. | :12:15. | |
pages this morning. So you have seen the pictures of the England players | :12:16. | :12:21. | |
arriving at their base. Today, it is time to put their football kits back | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
on as they have their first training session ahead of their tournament | :12:27. | :12:29. | |
opener against Russia on Saturday night. We should have pictures of | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
the training session for you later. We will be hearing from Northern | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
Ireland as they continue their preparations for the first match | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
against Poland on Sunday. The squad settled into their base and were | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
left pictures of families by their bedside in their rooms. So plenty of | :12:47. | :12:53. | |
home comforts for them in a country who are experiencing a major | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
tournament for the first time in 30 years. We are settling in nicely. | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
The base camp is unbelievable. It feels like we are at home. Nice | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
things sent from our families and nice little touches around the place | :13:06. | :13:11. | |
to make it feel homely. The board gains will come out well we are | :13:12. | :13:17. | |
relaxing around the place. We have everything we need at the base camp | :13:18. | :13:23. | |
to take care of that when we are bored. Also later, we will be | :13:24. | :13:29. | |
hearing from Chris Colman from Wales ahead of their opening game against | :13:30. | :13:32. | |
Slovakia. Wales, appearing in their first major tournament for 58 years. | :13:33. | :13:35. | |
The Employment Tribunal brought by the former Chelsea team doctor | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
against the club and former manager, Jose Mourinho goes into a second day | :13:39. | :13:42. | |
with the Doctor expected to appear as a witness today. Yesterday it was | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
alleged Jose Mourinho suggested he should work with Chelsea ladies and | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
now Manchester United manager, swore at and abused her, following the | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
game against Swansea last August. She is alleging and is | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
criminalisation by Jose Mourinho and Chelsea, which both parties deny. | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
Laura Robson begin to campaign at the Nottingham open today. This is a | :14:08. | :14:18. | |
speed test again some of the Nottinghamshire cricket players at | :14:19. | :14:22. | |
Trent Bridge. Maybe a second career beckons. One of the big names will | :14:23. | :14:30. | |
be glued to the Euros over the next month. Roger Federer, a big football | :14:31. | :14:32. | |
fan, naturally rooting for Switzerland to do well in the | :14:33. | :14:38. | |
tournament. I really hope they can play a good tournament, just good | :14:39. | :14:44. | |
soccer, I want to see a few wins and then if they get into the position | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
of moving on and through the group stages, they really believe that | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
anything is possible. I play knockout tournaments every week. | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
They only play them sometimes. Knockout, anything is possible on | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
any given day, especially in soccer with the power the referee has with | :15:02. | :15:06. | |
red cards, penalties and so forth. I really wish the team all the best | :15:07. | :15:12. | |
and I will be following it very closely. I am sure he will be | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
watching when Switzerland play their first game on Saturday. That is all | :15:17. | :15:18. | |
the sport for now. If you were Vardy, what would you | :15:19. | :15:31. | |
do? Honestly, I would move to Arsenal. Come on, it is Arsenal. | :15:32. | :15:37. | |
What Lester did was amazing, it was a fairy tale, but it was unexpected | :15:38. | :15:45. | |
and for them to follow up another season with more trophies, I'm not | :15:46. | :15:52. | |
sure. What about loyalty? It does not exist any more! | :15:53. | :15:56. | |
This morning - exclusive access to a controversial class | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
which teaches migrants and refugees about rape prevention. | :16:01. | :16:02. | |
The lessons, which run in Norway, were first introduced | :16:03. | :16:04. | |
several years ago - but following the attacks in Cologne | :16:05. | :16:06. | |
there are now calls for them to be introduced elsewhere. | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
Hundreds of women and girls reported mass sexual assault and robbery | :16:11. | :16:13. | |
by gangs of men in the German city on New Years Eve. | :16:14. | :16:19. | |
In the classes men are shown pictures like this | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
and taught that wearing skimpy clothes isn't | :16:24. | :16:26. | |
Critics say it stigmatises migrant men. | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
Our reporter James Longman has been speaking to those taking part | :16:31. | :16:33. | |
Norway's North Sea coast, a new start for those | :16:34. | :16:45. | |
It's quite a change from the life many left behind, especially when it | :16:46. | :16:50. | |
comes to more liberal societies like this one. | :16:51. | :16:55. | |
On New Year's Eve in Germany, as many as 1000 women were attacked | :16:56. | :16:58. | |
by groups of men, many of whom were reported to be migrants. | :16:59. | :17:39. | |
My name is Mohammed and I'm from Iraq. | :17:40. | :17:44. | |
Since three months, I finished three months. | :17:45. | :18:06. | |
It's good, better than my previous life. | :18:07. | :18:10. | |
When you sleep without thinking someone will kill you or someone | :18:11. | :18:12. | |
She said, always, she said, "Even if you are far away from me, | :18:13. | :18:27. | |
but you are safe, that is a good thing." | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
Today, Mohammed will go to the relationship class along | :18:33. | :18:42. | |
Norway has been running these classes since 2009, after a number | :18:43. | :18:54. | |
of rapes by migrants in a town up the coast. | :18:55. | :18:59. | |
But the course isn't just about rape prevention anymore - | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
now it includes discussions around communicating with the opposite sex, | :19:06. | :19:08. | |
boundaries, domestic violence, and what to do if you witness | :19:09. | :19:10. | |
NARRATOR ON VIDEO: "It is up to you to decide if you want to have sex." | :19:11. | :19:15. | |
One image used is of a Western woman in a short skirt. | :19:16. | :19:18. | |
The men are asked what they think the woman does for a living. | :19:19. | :19:21. | |
I ask them what they make of this, and if they would see it in Syria. | :19:22. | :19:31. | |
Some of them say it would be impossible, but others that in big | :19:32. | :19:35. | |
cities it is perfectly normal to see women dressed like this. | :19:36. | :19:43. | |
The men are discussing how rape is understood in Syria. | :19:44. | :19:46. | |
There's a discussion going on around what parts of Syria rape will be | :19:47. | :19:53. | |
considered illegal between a man and woman who are married. | :19:54. | :19:55. | |
They're talking about how religion plays a role, | :19:56. | :20:04. | |
In the cities, some things are considered legal or illegal | :20:05. | :20:08. | |
and in the countryside not so much, so it's a really mixed picture. | :20:09. | :20:11. | |
It's also a chance for the men to discuss cultural norms back home. | :20:12. | :20:14. | |
Mohammed brings up the issue of rape in Iraq. | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
"We have tribal and family courts in Iraq," he says. | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
"Sometimes, a woman who is raped by a man will end up being forced | :20:23. | :20:25. | |
to marry him by her family just to save face." | :20:26. | :20:34. | |
It's the first time these guys have ever had this | :20:35. | :20:36. | |
But the class has been criticised for treating all refugees | :20:37. | :20:48. | |
This is the director of this refugee centre. | :20:49. | :20:55. | |
Do you think it stigmatises them a bit? | :20:56. | :20:57. | |
When people find out that the first thing Norwegians do is teach men | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
I just think that it's not just we teach them about cultural | :21:03. | :21:10. | |
difference in many aspects, this is just one of the examples so far, | :21:11. | :21:13. | |
one of the aspects of cultural codes that they should be aware of. | :21:14. | :21:16. | |
How much of a real difference does four hours in a classroom actually | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
It is very difficult to tell, but what we do find is that | :21:20. | :21:27. | |
through the discussions we have and the participation, it is not | :21:28. | :21:30. | |
just about the training itself, it is about creating a good | :21:31. | :21:51. | |
In 2014, 87% of sexual offences were filed against Norwegian | :21:52. | :21:54. | |
citizens, the rest by migrants and other foreigners, | :21:55. | :21:56. | |
That year, sexual crime charges were brought against one Syrian, | :21:57. | :21:59. | |
12 Iraqi, and 20 Afghan citizens, so the statistics show that, | :22:00. | :22:02. | |
in Norway at least, sexual crimes are not more regularly | :22:03. | :22:08. | |
It may be that these classes have helped to achieve this in some way. | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
The media has been focused on the danger or the difficulties | :22:14. | :22:18. | |
that some women have in Europe from groups of migrant men. | :22:19. | :22:25. | |
Have people here seen that happening on the way to Norway, maybe | :22:26. | :22:34. | |
"The majority of people know about sexual assault," | :22:35. | :22:38. | |
"Any rational person knows not to do it. | :22:39. | :22:41. | |
The difference is, we don't normally talk about it, | :22:42. | :22:43. | |
Another man added that they had heard about what went on in Germany, | :22:44. | :22:50. | |
My name is Margaret and I'm a counsellor. | :22:51. | :22:58. | |
What do you think has shocked you most about doing this, | :22:59. | :23:01. | |
What shocked me most was the course I had for women, not for men, | :23:02. | :23:08. | |
because the women tend to be more judgmental towards each other | :23:09. | :23:13. | |
They tend to blame the women when there has been a violent act | :23:14. | :23:19. | |
For example, when we show the movie, it's a movie about a girl | :23:20. | :23:26. | |
who is being raped, my question after the movie is, | :23:27. | :23:33. | |
All the men agree that it was rape, but the women, they're not so sure. | :23:34. | :23:42. | |
Do you think this is the kind of course that could get | :23:43. | :23:45. | |
Absolutely, because there are not such big differences between, | :23:46. | :23:51. | |
for example, Great Britain and Norway in the way women behave | :23:52. | :23:55. | |
It's very similar, so I think it could easily be held | :23:56. | :24:00. | |
This is a totally different world to the one many of these men have | :24:01. | :24:11. | |
come from, and it's unclear that four hours in a classroom | :24:12. | :24:13. | |
is going to make that much of a difference. | :24:14. | :24:16. | |
But they seem to really appreciate the effort that the Norwegians have | :24:17. | :24:18. | |
made to better assimilate them, and it could be that classes | :24:19. | :24:21. | |
like these are rolled out across the whole of Europe. | :24:22. | :24:31. | |
We went to the Oslo opera house, a hub for all kinds of Europeans | :24:32. | :24:34. | |
coming to visit this iconic building, to ask what they | :24:35. | :24:37. | |
I think it's important to teach people who are not from our cultural | :24:38. | :24:45. | |
background our rules and our ideas about living together, | :24:46. | :24:50. | |
about how our society works, and I think it's necessary | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
We have got this training all through our lives and our childhood, | :24:55. | :25:02. | |
we have been bought up in this way, and other people have been brought | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
up in a different way, so from my perspective this is no | :25:07. | :25:09. | |
topic of racism or anything else, it's just you have to know about it. | :25:10. | :25:15. | |
It's necessary that they get a feel for the Norwegian culture | :25:16. | :25:26. | |
and the equality with women and men that we preach here. | :25:27. | :25:29. | |
Especially with women, of course, but meeting a Norwegian girl | :25:30. | :25:33. | |
in a miniskirt doesn't mean that she is ready | :25:34. | :25:36. | |
to have sex with you, and I think it is very important | :25:37. | :25:38. | |
I just read statistics about which men rape women, | :25:39. | :25:45. | |
and it isn't quite true that the majority are immigrants. | :25:46. | :25:50. | |
So maybe everyone should have these classes? | :25:51. | :25:57. | |
Lawrence fled the war in Rwanda 20 years ago to come to Norway | :25:58. | :26:07. | |
He says he empathises with the men he sees making their journeys | :26:08. | :26:11. | |
What was your experience when you first came to Norway? | :26:12. | :26:16. | |
My experience was that, when I came, of course, | :26:17. | :26:18. | |
Believe me, it was cold, that was my first experience! | :26:19. | :26:32. | |
So when you came 20 years ago, if someone said you need to go | :26:33. | :26:36. | |
to a class, you wouldn't have found that to be at all racist? | :26:37. | :26:39. | |
For me it was a positive experience and I recommend it to anyone | :26:40. | :26:43. | |
You look at what is happening now and feel like you have | :26:44. | :26:49. | |
something in common with the men coming from Syria? | :26:50. | :26:52. | |
Death, destruction, war, desperation, losing hope, losing | :26:53. | :27:02. | |
I can see the feeling, I can try to somehow relate | :27:03. | :27:08. | |
to them by the human suffering, you know? | :27:09. | :27:12. | |
We all want the well-being of us, and for anyone who is coming | :27:13. | :27:16. | |
from there, without knowing exactly what is going on there, I feel like, | :27:17. | :27:24. | |
when you leave you have no hope, no future, you want to get | :27:25. | :27:27. | |
in a place where you are safe, where you can plan even | :27:28. | :27:30. | |
for being married and having children, being | :27:31. | :27:33. | |
Many of them, maybe they have this kind of hopelessness in them. | :27:34. | :27:44. | |
Many of the men I met spoke about what they were looking | :27:45. | :27:47. | |
Not just safety, food and shelter, but an active life in which they | :27:48. | :27:52. | |
They said they didn't see the courses here as rape prevention. | :27:53. | :27:58. | |
They take them because they hope it might make it easier to find | :27:59. | :28:01. | |
a partner and ease what is very often a solitary existence. | :28:02. | :28:05. | |
I have been speaking with a woman, she is 31 years old... | :28:06. | :28:09. | |
The day after class, I met with Mohammed again. | :28:10. | :28:12. | |
He said he'd arranged a date with a local girl the night before | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
but she cancelled at the last minute. | :28:17. | :28:17. | |
She had been helping him to learn Norwegian. | :28:18. | :28:20. | |
What do you say to people who think there is a problem | :28:21. | :28:23. | |
I'm not doing the wrong thing, I'm not doing that big mistake, | :28:24. | :28:30. | |
The problem if I make the wrong thing with her, that's the problem, | :28:31. | :28:41. | |
and if I did that wrong thing it will be, people will say, | :28:42. | :28:45. | |
"Look at the refugees, what they are doing, | :28:46. | :28:48. | |
What is the difference between people? | :28:49. | :28:57. | |
You are 29 years old, I am 27, you have Instagram, | :28:58. | :29:04. | |
I have Instagram, you have Facebook, I have Facebook, you have | :29:05. | :29:06. | |
So what is the difference between people? | :29:07. | :29:14. | |
OK, there are differences between cultures, but I let | :29:15. | :29:17. | |
I hope and I wish that people speak with me about my culture, | :29:18. | :29:29. | |
not give their opinion, maybe bad opinion, | :29:30. | :29:33. | |
We are all human beings, there are no differences | :29:34. | :29:43. | |
should classes like this be introduced in the UK? | :29:44. | :29:52. | |
Do get in touch throughout the programme - a little later | :29:53. | :29:55. | |
in the programme we'll bring you more reaction | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
This person said, absolutely include them here. Hannah on Twitter says | :30:01. | :30:09. | |
these should not just be for migrants. The issue runs much | :30:10. | :30:11. | |
deeper. Should we hesitate, rather than | :30:12. | :30:19. | |
allowing migrants in if they are unable to control themselves? | :30:20. | :30:28. | |
Matthew says why make these for migrants? The problem needs to be | :30:29. | :30:32. | |
addressed across cultures. Do get in touch throughout | :30:33. | :30:39. | |
the programme - a little later in the programme we'll bring | :30:40. | :30:42. | |
you more reaction Thousands of children | :30:43. | :30:45. | |
are thought to be at risk in the Iraqi city of Falluja - | :30:46. | :30:47. | |
caught up in fierce fighting between Iraqi | :30:48. | :30:50. | |
forces and IS fighters. Aid agencies tell others children in | :30:51. | :31:01. | |
the city are at risk of being recruited by IS. | :31:02. | :31:05. | |
And campaigners challenge a decision by NHS England not to commission | :31:06. | :31:08. | |
a preventative HIV treatment called 'prep' which they say | :31:09. | :31:10. | |
can reduce the risk of infection by more than 90%. | :31:11. | :31:15. | |
And now to the BBC Newsroom for a summary of today's news. | :31:16. | :31:22. | |
Today is the deadline for those wanting to register to vote | :31:23. | :31:24. | |
in the referendum on Britain's membership of the EU, | :31:25. | :31:26. | |
226,000 registered to vote yesterday, | :31:27. | :31:33. | |
the largest number on any day so far. | :31:34. | :31:34. | |
Applications need to be submitted by midnight. | :31:35. | :31:36. | |
Those wanting to vote by post must download the application form | :31:37. | :31:39. | |
and return it to their local office by 5pm tomorrow. | :31:40. | :31:41. | |
The founder of Sports Direct has written to staff saying he has | :31:42. | :31:45. | |
"nothing to hide" as he prepares to answer questions | :31:46. | :31:47. | |
from MPs about working conditions at the company's | :31:48. | :31:51. | |
Mike Ashley had originally said he would not appear before | :31:52. | :31:56. | |
the Commons committee, but changed his mind | :31:57. | :31:57. | |
He says he wants to defend the firm's "good name", | :31:58. | :32:03. | |
though he acknowledges that some procedures at the site | :32:04. | :32:05. | |
The company's chief executive is to forgo a ?4 million bonus. | :32:06. | :32:12. | |
In Turkey, 11 people have been killed and at least 36 injured | :32:13. | :32:16. | |
Turkish officials say seven of the dead were police officers. | :32:17. | :32:21. | |
The bomb exploded during the morning rush hour and is believed to have | :32:22. | :32:24. | |
No group has yet said it carried out the attack. | :32:25. | :32:33. | |
It looks like Hillary Clinton has won enough votes to secure | :32:34. | :32:36. | |
the Democratic party nomination for president of the United States - | :32:37. | :32:39. | |
according to one news agency's tally of delegates. | :32:40. | :32:42. | |
But her rival Bernie Sanders says it's too early for the media | :32:43. | :32:45. | |
The Associated Press news agency says Hillary Clinton cannot now be | :32:46. | :33:05. | |
caught. No one person has all the answers. I will go anywhere, any | :33:06. | :33:12. | |
time to seek common ground. I will talk to anybody. I did as first | :33:13. | :33:20. | |
lady, I did as a Senator, I did as Secretary of State and I will | :33:21. | :33:22. | |
certainly do that as president. Dozens of schoolchildren have been | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
rescued by helicopter and lifeboat after becoming trapped by the rising | :33:27. | :33:29. | |
tide on a beach in Kent. The group of 34 teenagers and two | :33:30. | :33:32. | |
adults -- from a school in London -- were hiking when they become stuck | :33:33. | :33:36. | |
between St Margaret's Bay and Dover. They used lights on their mobile | :33:37. | :33:38. | |
phones to help rescue That's a summary of | :33:39. | :33:40. | |
the latest BBC News later. After arriving at their European | :33:41. | :33:48. | |
Championship base in Chantee, France, England will train | :33:49. | :33:58. | |
for the first time morning. They kick off their tournament | :33:59. | :34:01. | |
on Saturday against Russia. For a change, there are no injury | :34:02. | :34:10. | |
worries. Jamie Vardy is the main talking point in the build-up to the | :34:11. | :34:12. | |
game. We'll also be hearing today | :34:13. | :34:15. | |
from Northern Ireland today as they continue their preparations | :34:16. | :34:17. | |
for their first match Kyle Lafferty and Craig Cathcart | :34:18. | :34:19. | |
are expected to feature in training despite carrying | :34:20. | :34:23. | |
slight fitness concerns. The employment tribunal brought | :34:24. | :34:25. | |
by former Chelsea team doctor Eva Carneiro against the club | :34:26. | :34:27. | |
and former manager Jose Mourinho goes into a second day | :34:28. | :34:30. | |
with Carneiro expected to appear Carneiro is alleging victimisation | :34:31. | :34:33. | |
and discrimination by Mourinho That is all the sport for now, we | :34:34. | :34:39. | |
will have an update at ten a.m.. Today is the last chance to register | :34:40. | :34:51. | |
to have your say on one of the most important votes you'll ever get | :34:52. | :34:55. | |
to cast - the European It's estimated that six million | :34:56. | :34:57. | |
people haven't yet signed If you're not registered - | :34:58. | :35:01. | |
you can't vote. On our programme yesterday we heard | :35:02. | :35:06. | |
from people who told us they felt weighted down by the importance | :35:07. | :35:07. | |
of the decision they were yet I absolutely want to vote because it | :35:08. | :35:18. | |
is an important decision. But at the moment I have no idea which way to | :35:19. | :35:24. | |
vote because there isn't anything out there to base my decision on. If | :35:25. | :35:29. | |
we get to June 23 and you still haven't got the information you are | :35:30. | :35:33. | |
desperate for, will you go with your head, your heart, your God? I am so | :35:34. | :35:39. | |
conflicted, I don't even know. Part of me says go with Leave and give it | :35:40. | :35:48. | |
a chance. All I have ever known in my life is being in the EU, so I | :35:49. | :35:54. | |
don't know what would happen if we weren't in it, is a part of me | :35:55. | :36:01. | |
thinks, give it a try. But it is such a big decision and there is | :36:02. | :36:08. | |
such a risk, there is so much to put on. It is so much for everyone as an | :36:09. | :36:14. | |
individual to make a decision on. With no information to make that | :36:15. | :36:19. | |
decision on, so you feel lost. The information coming out is pathetic. | :36:20. | :36:23. | |
The politicians really need to get their act together. The leaflets | :36:24. | :36:26. | |
given out, a five-year-old could have written it. That is the Remain | :36:27. | :36:30. | |
side, the government. There wasn't enough information in that. I want | :36:31. | :36:33. | |
to make a good decision. I want to know where you get your figures | :36:34. | :36:40. | |
from, how you work it out and please explain your arguments because I | :36:41. | :36:44. | |
don't get it. I do believe you should use your vote because people | :36:45. | :36:47. | |
have lost their lives, you should use your vote. Quite honestly, at | :36:48. | :36:53. | |
this moment in time, I don't want to vote because I don't know which way | :36:54. | :37:01. | |
to go. I am more undecided than I was when I walked in this room. I am | :37:02. | :37:09. | |
undecided. If we lead the EU, will we flourish? If we stay, will we | :37:10. | :37:15. | |
crash and burn? On the day, how will you make up your mind, briefly? I am | :37:16. | :37:18. | |
open, I might not even vote. Really? The Electoral Commission says | :37:19. | :37:23. | |
in the last few weeks - 1.6 million Under 25s have applied | :37:24. | :37:26. | |
online to register to vote. But young people are | :37:27. | :37:28. | |
still less likely to vote Abiodun Ola-tokun has been hitting | :37:29. | :37:30. | |
the streets to convince young people He's from an organisation | :37:31. | :37:36. | |
called Bite the Ballot. Saadia Sajid is 17 and really | :37:37. | :37:39. | |
frustrated the law prevents her Syeda Tasmia Tahia is 21, | :37:40. | :37:41. | |
and Dolarpo Okun-uga is 19 - they'll both be voting remain | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
on the 23rd of June. And Jordan Ryan and Joesph Wigmore, | :37:46. | :37:47. | |
who are 22 and 21, you are considering | :37:48. | :37:52. | |
spoiling his ballot paper on the 23rd - | :37:53. | :38:09. | |
tell us why All I am hearing is the Conservative | :38:10. | :38:16. | |
Party arguing within each other. It is not enough information to make up | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
your mind. Can you support a political party? I do support a | :38:22. | :38:28. | |
political party. The emphasis has been based on the Conservative | :38:29. | :38:32. | |
Party's point of views. The Labour Party, you are not seeing much. Have | :38:33. | :38:39. | |
you looked at Labour speeches? There was something about Gordon Brown the | :38:40. | :38:43. | |
other day but that is not enough to go on. You are all going to vote, | :38:44. | :38:51. | |
tell him what to think about the fact he is considering spoiling his | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
ballot paper? It is a better decision compared to someone who is | :38:57. | :38:58. | |
saying they wouldn't vote. Spoiling the ballot paper still counts as | :38:59. | :39:02. | |
kind of, your engagement with the process, which is more important in | :39:03. | :39:08. | |
terms of telling the young people who are still interested and don't | :39:09. | :39:12. | |
probably have that important information to make the decision, as | :39:13. | :39:15. | |
opposed to someone who says I will not be voting, because they will not | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
be in any of those records. The fact they were confused will not show up | :39:21. | :39:27. | |
anywhere and no one else will find out about that. It is a better | :39:28. | :39:32. | |
decision as opposed to not voting at all. Anyone else? It sends a message | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
to the political class, you have listened to both arguments but | :39:38. | :39:40. | |
couldn't agree. It shows that turnout is high because people turn | :39:41. | :39:47. | |
out and spoiled ballot, because on a low turnout, you can say people were | :39:48. | :39:52. | |
apathetic and didn't care, but clearly you do care. He would love | :39:53. | :39:58. | |
to be able to vote, like in the Scottish referendum we had 16 and | :39:59. | :40:01. | |
17-year-olds, why do you want your voice to be heard in this boat? For | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
the EU referendum, these are decisions that will affect us in the | :40:07. | :40:12. | |
near future. Two years down the line when I choose to go to university, | :40:13. | :40:18. | |
if I want to study abroad, I will not have the opportunity in the same | :40:19. | :40:25. | |
way as if we were in the EU. Because there are organisations that give | :40:26. | :40:28. | |
15,000 students the opportunity to study abroad in the EU. The young | :40:29. | :40:34. | |
people, it is such an important opportunity will not only affect our | :40:35. | :40:36. | |
lives, but future generations. For the older generation to make that | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
decision based on what they believe is the right decision. But those | :40:41. | :40:43. | |
people who it will affect will not have the opportunity. You want | :40:44. | :40:46. | |
people to register. You don't mind how they vote, you want them to | :40:47. | :40:51. | |
register. What engagement are you getting from 18 to 24-year-olds, a | :40:52. | :40:57. | |
low turnout when it comes to general elections? That is the lie of the | :40:58. | :41:00. | |
land, unfortunately politics at the moment doesn't really speak to young | :41:01. | :41:04. | |
citizens in the wake and want to be spoken to. We did a bit of polling | :41:05. | :41:12. | |
the other day which showed the types of message both camps are leaving | :41:13. | :41:17. | |
are not reaching young people to encourage them to take part. You | :41:18. | :41:21. | |
mean the personalities, Nigel Farage, Michael Gove, David Cameron, | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
Boris Johnson, they are all on social media rush to mark that is | :41:27. | :41:34. | |
the sort of issue. 43% of the people in the poll said they see it as | :41:35. | :41:40. | |
groups of old man shouting at each other. The vote will affect Britain | :41:41. | :41:46. | |
for its entirety. It is everyone's contest, which is why we have | :41:47. | :41:52. | |
launched a nationwide vote campaign to get people to turn up and vote on | :41:53. | :42:01. | |
the issue. We need to get people to speak to each other. Establishment | :42:02. | :42:05. | |
can have their conversation but everybody needs to be involved. Are | :42:06. | :42:10. | |
you having this conversation with your friends, what are people saying | :42:11. | :42:16. | |
to you? It is a big deal. We do talk about the referendum and how Twitter | :42:17. | :42:20. | |
has been important for them. Social media, Twitter accounts from | :42:21. | :42:24. | |
musicians has been really good, basically. What about you, Joseph, | :42:25. | :42:29. | |
is this a big deal for your friends? It is a mixed bag. People are | :42:30. | :42:36. | |
engaged and they do show an interest, but you also get people | :42:37. | :42:40. | |
who are not a very engaged in politics and don't really know what | :42:41. | :42:46. | |
is going on. That is to do with the political class not interacting with | :42:47. | :42:51. | |
young people and making them feel connected. Our people registered to | :42:52. | :42:55. | |
vote, do you know if your friends are registered? I think half are, | :42:56. | :42:58. | |
half are not. This constant complaint from your generation that | :42:59. | :43:02. | |
politicians don't speak to you in the way that would engage you, what | :43:03. | :43:07. | |
should they be doing? You have talked about it should be friends | :43:08. | :43:12. | |
talking to friends, how should politicians be doing it differently? | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
Social media allows you to interact with the politicians and see | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
politicians differently. They are already doing that. On some | :43:23. | :43:27. | |
accounts, you can tell they are writing it for themselves, on other | :43:28. | :43:32. | |
accounts, you can tell it is their adviser doing it for them, or | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
whatever. If it is coming from the politician themselves, sending a | :43:38. | :43:41. | |
video, engaging with the young market, let them talk to young | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
people rather than a standard like going across the platform. It is at | :43:47. | :43:56. | |
the 40 to 50 target rather than the 15 to 16-year-olds. If they want to | :43:57. | :44:00. | |
get young people engage, they need to get them engaged rather than this | :44:01. | :44:07. | |
is a speech, but it is not aimed at young people. We know 18 to | :44:08. | :44:14. | |
24-year-olds are more likely to vote remain. You are Leave, why are young | :44:15. | :44:19. | |
people voting Remain? People vote with the status quo, what they know | :44:20. | :44:25. | |
and what they have grown up in. Also, the EU offers great schemes | :44:26. | :44:30. | |
the students abroad and it appeals to young people. To be part of the | :44:31. | :44:35. | |
EU, is being part of it, you don't have to be part of the EU to be part | :44:36. | :44:44. | |
of the student scheme. People vote in universities because it is the | :44:45. | :44:48. | |
vote Remain because it is the status quo, lecturers saying we might lose | :44:49. | :44:53. | |
funding. Not all young people go to university. Only the third of young | :44:54. | :44:57. | |
people go to university, two thirds of people go on to do | :44:58. | :45:02. | |
apprenticeships or go into the world of work. It is those people who are | :45:03. | :45:07. | |
underrepresented on all of the panels and debates that have | :45:08. | :45:10. | |
happened so far. What would you say to anybody, whatever age who haven't | :45:11. | :45:13. | |
registered to vote, they have until midnight? As I said, the 23rd of | :45:14. | :45:23. | |
June is the biggest question people of our age, first-time voters have | :45:24. | :45:27. | |
faced and will likely to face. It is massive. It is only the third time | :45:28. | :45:33. | |
in the history of Britain we have had a UK wide ) them. This will | :45:34. | :45:37. | |
literally shape jobs, the economy, immigration, so many things that are | :45:38. | :45:42. | |
so important to people at the start of their professional careers for | :45:43. | :45:47. | |
ever. A lot of people live in areas, safe seats were year on year, every | :45:48. | :45:53. | |
election, the same politicians are returned. Some people, when we | :45:54. | :45:57. | |
deliver our workshop in the community say, my vote doesn't | :45:58. | :46:02. | |
matter. On the 23rd of June, every vote and every voter are crucial. | :46:03. | :46:11. | |
You could find that either side has won by a vote and you could be | :46:12. | :46:19. | |
crucial. If it is one vote there will be a recount! If you wake up on | :46:20. | :46:24. | |
the 24th of June and spoil your ballot paper, are you going to get | :46:25. | :46:28. | |
annoyed with people saying you've got no right to complain? I always | :46:29. | :46:36. | |
believe in spoiling your ballot because it is a statement if I do | :46:37. | :46:45. | |
not believe in what is happening. I have people who complain when they | :46:46. | :46:54. | |
did not vote. One person says the person who wants to spoil their | :46:55. | :46:57. | |
ballot papers should not be allowed to vote. I think spoiling your | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
ballot comes across all your ages, it is your statement that you do not | :47:02. | :47:07. | |
believe in the system. Why can't I? Thank you for coming on the | :47:08. | :47:08. | |
programme. Thank you. Hillary Clinton prepares to take | :47:09. | :47:11. | |
on Donald Trump in the race We'll compare their policies | :47:12. | :47:14. | |
and look ahead to the 20,000 children are thought to be | :47:15. | :47:17. | |
in danger in the Iraqi city of Falluja, according to aid | :47:18. | :47:28. | |
agencies working in Iraq. The city - which has been | :47:29. | :47:34. | |
controlled by so-called Islamic State since 2014 - | :47:35. | :47:38. | |
has been caught up in fierce battle between Iraqi | :47:39. | :47:41. | |
forces and IS fighters. Thousands of families have been | :47:42. | :47:44. | |
fleeing conflict there over the last few weeks - | :47:45. | :47:47. | |
with reports of children being used as human shields, people being shot | :47:48. | :47:49. | |
as they try to escape and food Let's talk to Becky Bakr Abdullah | :47:50. | :47:52. | |
from the Norwegian Refugee Council who we spoke to last week | :47:53. | :48:00. | |
on the programme, and Peter They've both been working | :48:01. | :48:04. | |
with displaced families in Falluja and Peter you feel that children | :48:05. | :48:09. | |
left behind are at real risk of being recruited by so called | :48:10. | :48:14. | |
IS and are being subjected to trauma which will have serious implications | :48:15. | :48:17. | |
in the long run. Indeed, we've seen this in other | :48:18. | :48:33. | |
parts of the country and elsewhere. 20,000 children trapped in foliage | :48:34. | :48:40. | |
are at risk of being killed or maimed by the fighting and being | :48:41. | :48:45. | |
recruited by the militants to perpetrate and continue the | :48:46. | :48:49. | |
conflict. We've seen elsewhere that children are being recruited to | :48:50. | :49:03. | |
support Islamic State. The danger of them being used as human shields, | :49:04. | :49:12. | |
how? We don't know what's happening currently but what is evident is | :49:13. | :49:22. | |
those children are trapped in the city. Unicef are calling for the | :49:23. | :49:32. | |
families to come out or frost to have access to them so that we can | :49:33. | :49:41. | |
deliver immediate needs. They should not be left in that condition or | :49:42. | :49:49. | |
situation. Becky, you believe around 3000 people have reached refugee | :49:50. | :49:54. | |
camps since the 23rd of May. Last week you told stories from the | :49:55. | :49:57. | |
you've spoken to but what about the newcomers? It's the third week of | :49:58. | :50:10. | |
this fight, we are still collecting stories from the families that | :50:11. | :50:15. | |
escaped. Yesterday I spoke to a woman who told me how they managed | :50:16. | :50:20. | |
to cross the river and wanted to get to safety. The first thing they did | :50:21. | :50:25. | |
when they reached the river was drink from it, because they were so | :50:26. | :50:33. | |
exhausted. She threw her daughter on one of the boats are hoping she | :50:34. | :50:38. | |
would make it to safety. She saw three children being stuffed inside | :50:39. | :50:41. | |
a refrigerator with no door to get them across the river. She told me | :50:42. | :50:48. | |
the refrigerator sank and a young girl drone. We remain concerned. -- | :50:49. | :50:58. | |
young girl drowned. They are trying to get away from the shooting. | :50:59. | :51:07. | |
Absolutely desperate. What is the target of your organisation? | :51:08. | :51:21. | |
We are creating a safe spot 30 minutes away from Falluja. We are 12 | :51:22. | :51:28. | |
minutes from the nearest front line. We are there every day and night | :51:29. | :51:34. | |
assisting the families. We are giving them food parcels, drinking | :51:35. | :51:41. | |
water, basic hygiene. The situation in the camps, because families are | :51:42. | :51:45. | |
escaping the outskirts every night, is getting more terrible. We can | :51:46. | :51:52. | |
only give these families the bare minimum what they need. We are | :51:53. | :51:57. | |
trying to deliver our job but we have not much funding. Do you think | :51:58. | :52:07. | |
things will get worse before they get better? It is important to | :52:08. | :52:15. | |
understand the context in which this is happening, 60,000 people are | :52:16. | :52:19. | |
displaced already, some of them multiple times as the conflict moves | :52:20. | :52:24. | |
from Falluja and further north-west. People are being displaced, as | :52:25. | :52:30. | |
conflict comes back they are displaced. We are struggling to meet | :52:31. | :52:38. | |
the needs of thousands of displaced already. The increased number of | :52:39. | :52:50. | |
people coming out of Falluja can only overwhelm us further more. I | :52:51. | :52:54. | |
met with my colleagues yesterday, two children who had just come out | :52:55. | :52:59. | |
of Falluja and both of whom were injured by the fighting. One had | :53:00. | :53:04. | |
shrapnel around her face and her younger brother had shrapnel marks | :53:05. | :53:08. | |
on both his ankles. They were lucky. The others were less lucky. Water | :53:09. | :53:22. | |
and shelter are provided, health care from the WHO, food and other | :53:23. | :53:32. | |
immediate needs. We continue to do that in an environment which is very | :53:33. | :53:37. | |
difficult. The resources currently available are running out and we | :53:38. | :53:44. | |
need extra resources to sustain this over the coming months. Presumably | :53:45. | :53:52. | |
for the children experiencing whatever is going on in Falluja, | :53:53. | :54:02. | |
witnessing this, the trauma will have long-term implications for | :54:03. | :54:05. | |
them. Absolutely, that's the next step. We need to look at the | :54:06. | :54:12. | |
psychosocial needs of these children. They've lost years of | :54:13. | :54:20. | |
education already. They are affected by the trauma and the conflict. A | :54:21. | :54:24. | |
lot of them are separated from their fathers and brothers. Some of them | :54:25. | :54:30. | |
might have been killed. These need to be picked up. We are faced with | :54:31. | :54:37. | |
losing a generation of children. The situation needs to improve quickly. | :54:38. | :54:41. | |
Thank you for taking the time to talk to us. Many thanks speaking us | :54:42. | :54:57. | |
on the programme. Thanks for your comments on the controversial scheme | :54:58. | :55:01. | |
running in no way to teach migrant men about rape prevention. This | :55:02. | :55:08. | |
person says... Many men from the societies believe | :55:09. | :55:28. | |
women wearing short skirts are looking for attention. It is a | :55:29. | :55:33. | |
difficult question as to who needs to attend these classes. This person | :55:34. | :55:38. | |
says everyone should take these classes. Jerome says... | :55:39. | :55:48. | |
Migrants can come from anywhere in the rod and teaching them how the | :55:49. | :56:04. | |
new culture works can only help them. It set them up for the best | :56:05. | :56:10. | |
start in their new home. I emigrated to England and did not know basic | :56:11. | :56:13. | |
things like certain hand gestures being rude. | :56:14. | :56:25. | |
If it makes a few of them think twice about their behaviour. This | :56:26. | :56:36. | |
person says these classes should be compulsory everywhere. Protection of | :56:37. | :56:46. | |
women is much more important than stigmatisation. Thank you for the | :56:47. | :56:51. | |
messages. We will talk more about that scheme. Also to come, why | :56:52. | :57:02. | |
children need to wake years to have their mental health problems dealt | :57:03. | :57:09. | |
with. Now the weather. Enjoying the lovely hot weather? In Manchester it | :57:10. | :57:14. | |
was 26 degrees. It has been for a week. The highest amateur we've seen | :57:15. | :57:19. | |
so far has been in the north-west of Wales, where it got to 28 degrees. | :57:20. | :57:31. | |
It has been very hot. We're going to get thunderstorms developing as we | :57:32. | :57:38. | |
go through the day. We will get thunderclouds developing. The | :57:39. | :57:43. | |
ingredients are there for the atmosphere to go bang. The storms | :57:44. | :57:52. | |
will be heavy and slow moving. Extensive sunshine at the moment. We | :57:53. | :57:56. | |
have this area of low cloud affecting the north-east of Scotland | :57:57. | :57:59. | |
and that will continue to affect Aberdeen. It will clear in the | :58:00. | :58:05. | |
central lowlands. The middle part of the day, those storms getting going | :58:06. | :58:09. | |
across Wales, northern England and Scotland. We may see thunderstorms | :58:10. | :58:14. | |
developing across parts of East Anglia. The storms will be | :58:15. | :58:28. | |
slow-moving. There is a risk. Temperatures at their highest in | :58:29. | :58:39. | |
eastern England. We've got thunderstorms developing in Scotland | :58:40. | :58:41. | |
but the low cloud will keep things colder. Be aware as we go through | :58:42. | :58:49. | |
this afternoon and evening, there is a risk of flooding. Tune into your | :58:50. | :58:56. | |
local station to see what the weather is up to where you live. | :58:57. | :59:00. | |
Overnight, those storms will continue for a time but after that | :59:01. | :59:07. | |
they will fade away. It will affect eastern Scotland and eastern | :59:08. | :59:14. | |
England. It will be muggy and London. Quite uncomfortable for | :59:15. | :59:20. | |
sleeping. Tomorrow there will be more clout but it will brighten up. | :59:21. | :59:35. | |
This time it seems more likely... There are changes toward the end of | :59:36. | :59:38. | |
the week. As we lose the high pressure we will see an influence | :59:39. | :59:43. | |
from the Atlantic. We will see increasingly cloudy skies and wet | :59:44. | :59:48. | |
weather. 25 degrees for a top temperature on Thursday. Through | :59:49. | :59:53. | |
Friday at the weekend the weather gets progressively cloudier. There | :59:54. | :59:56. | |
will be some burst of rain a Roman we will see the temperatures coming | :59:57. | :59:58. | |
back down -- bursts of rain around. Hello it's 10:00am, | :59:59. | :00:10. | |
I'm Victoria Derbyshire, Controversial classes that help | :00:11. | :00:12. | |
refugees with rape prevention. "We have tribal and family | :00:13. | :00:39. | |
courts in Iraq" he says. Sometimes a woman who is raped | :00:40. | :00:41. | |
by a man is forced to marry him It's the first time these guys have | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
ever had this kind of conversation. They're already happening in Norway | :00:45. | :00:51. | |
- but should they be rolled out to other European | :00:52. | :00:53. | |
countries including the UK? It's looking increasingly likely | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
that Donald Trump's opponent in the race for the White House | :00:56. | :00:59. | |
will be Hillary Clinton. I will go anywhere any time | :01:00. | :01:02. | |
to seek common ground. I'll talk to anybody, | :01:03. | :01:04. | |
I did as First Lady, I did as a Senator, I did | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
as Secretary of State, and I will certainly do | :01:08. | :01:09. | |
that as president. What do Hillary Clinton and Donald | :01:10. | :01:21. | |
Trump stand for? We will look at their policies. | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
And is NHS England right in it's decision NOT to offer a preventative | :01:25. | :01:27. | |
Today is the deadline for those wanting to register to vote | :01:28. | :01:40. | |
in the referendum on Britain's membership of the EU, | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
226,000 registered to vote yesterday, | :01:44. | :01:47. | |
the largest number on any day so far. | :01:48. | :01:49. | |
Applications need to be submitted by midnight. | :01:50. | :01:52. | |
Those wanting to vote by post must download the application form | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
and return it to their local office by 5pm tomorrow. | :01:57. | :02:05. | |
This man is trying to encourage young people to vote but many saw | :02:06. | :02:17. | |
the campaign as groups of old men shouting at each other. The vote on | :02:18. | :02:23. | |
the 23rd of June will affect Britain for its entirety and it is | :02:24. | :02:26. | |
everyone's contest, which is why we have launched a national voter | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
registration campaign to get engagement on the issue. We, as | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
young citizens are the best to speak to each other. Establishment can | :02:36. | :02:39. | |
have their conversation but everybody needs to be involved. | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
The founder of Sports Direct will appear before MPs in the next | :02:44. | :02:45. | |
hour to to answer questions from MPs about working conditions at the | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
Mike Ashley has written to staff saying he has "nothing to hide". | :02:50. | :02:54. | |
The billionaire had originally said he would not appear before | :02:55. | :02:58. | |
the Commons committee, but changed his mind | :02:59. | :02:59. | |
He says he wants to defend the firm's "good name", | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
though he acknowledges that some procedures at the site | :03:04. | :03:05. | |
In Turkey, 11 people have been killed and at least 36 injured | :03:06. | :03:10. | |
Turkish officials say seven of the dead were police officers. | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
The bomb exploded during the morning rush hour and is believed to have | :03:15. | :03:17. | |
No group has yet said it carried out the attack. | :03:18. | :03:25. | |
No group has said it was behind the attack but suspicion will fall | :03:26. | :03:35. | |
principally on the PKK Kurdish militant group. An offshoot of the | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
group says it was behind two attacks on police vehicles in Ankara in | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
February and March which killed over 30 people on each occasion. Although | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
the Turkish government and Western governments believe it is an alias | :03:52. | :03:54. | |
of the PKK, with which fighting has resumed since a ceasefire between | :03:55. | :03:57. | |
the Turkish government and the PKK broke down last year. | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
Hillary Clinton has reportedly win enough votes to win the numb | :04:02. | :04:11. | |
nomination for president of the United States. Bernie Sanders says | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
it is too early for the media to do declare a winner. But the media says | :04:17. | :04:22. | |
Hillary Clinton cannot now be caught. | :04:23. | :04:26. | |
Dozens of schoolchildren have been rescued by helicopter and lifeboat | :04:27. | :04:28. | |
after becoming trapped by the rising tide on a beach in Kent. | :04:29. | :04:31. | |
The group of 34 teenagers and two adults -- from a school in London -- | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
were hiking when they become stuck between St Margaret's Bay and Dover. | :04:36. | :04:36. | |
The children, seen here getting off a lifeboat, used lights on their | :04:37. | :04:45. | |
mobile phones to help rescue teams locate them. | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30. | :04:50. | :04:52. | |
use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged | :04:53. | :05:02. | |
John tweets, spoiling a ballot paper isn't a protest, no one will know or | :05:03. | :05:19. | |
care. It is the lack of courage to make a decision. Someone else said, | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
it is disrespectful of those who still fight for the right to vote. | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
Someone says spoiling a ballot paper is ignorant and immature. Elaine | :05:31. | :05:36. | |
said, the ability to add Stein should be compulsory on the ballot | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
paper which should make voting compulsory. Now the sports | :05:41. | :05:44. | |
headlines. After arriving at their European | :05:45. | :06:02. | |
Championship base in Chantee, France, England will train | :06:03. | :06:04. | |
for the first time morning. They kick off their tournament | :06:05. | :06:06. | |
on Saturday against Russia. For a change, there | :06:07. | :06:08. | |
are no injury worries. Jamie Vardy is the main talking | :06:09. | :06:10. | |
point in the build-up to the We'll also be hearing today | :06:11. | :06:13. | |
from Northern Ireland today as they continue their preparations | :06:14. | :06:20. | |
for their first match The squad settled into their base, | :06:21. | :06:22. | |
just north of Lyon and were even left pictures of their families | :06:23. | :06:42. | |
by their bedsides in the rooms. Plenty of home comforts then | :06:43. | :06:45. | |
for a country who are experiencing life at a major tournament | :06:46. | :06:47. | |
for the first time in 30 years. Nice things sent from our families | :06:48. | :06:50. | |
and nice little touches around The board games will come out well | :06:51. | :06:57. | |
we are relaxing around the place. We have everything we need | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
at the base camp to take care Also later today, we'll be hearing | :07:03. | :07:04. | |
from Wales manager Chris Coleman, ahead of their opening game | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
with Slovakia on Saturday - Wales appearing in their first major | :07:09. | :07:11. | |
tournament for 58 years. The employment tribunal brought | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
by former Chelsea team doctor Eva Carneiro against the club | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
and former manager Jose Mourinho goes into a second day | :07:19. | :07:20. | |
with Carneiro expected to appear Yesterday, it was alleged that | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
Mourinho suggested Carneiro should work with Chelsea Ladies | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
and that the now Manchester United manager swore at, and abused | :07:30. | :07:32. | |
Carneiro following the game Carneiro is alleging victimisation | :07:33. | :07:34. | |
and discrimination by Mourinho The funeral of Muhammad Ali takes | :07:35. | :08:00. | |
place on Friday with the pallbearers. Almost the same | :08:01. | :08:16. | |
philosophy of life. He was a wonderful player, a boxer who was in | :08:17. | :08:26. | |
shape, preparing himself. He was spectacular for the people, making | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
the people happy. That is what I used to do in my field. I wanted to | :08:31. | :08:37. | |
score a goal, make people happy. Always, I used to say, God, it if | :08:38. | :08:44. | |
you make the game goalless, let's finish the game 4-4 because | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
everybody will be happy. This was Muhammad Ali, he always wanted to | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
bring happiness to the people. That is all the sport for now, Victoria. | :08:54. | :09:01. | |
Should male refugees and migrants arriving in this country | :09:02. | :09:04. | |
Controversial rape prevention classes have run in Norway | :09:05. | :09:09. | |
But since the attacks in Cologne where more than 100 women and girls | :09:10. | :09:15. | |
reported being sexually assaulted by gangs of migrant men in | :09:16. | :09:17. | |
the German city on New Years Eve - there are calls for them to be | :09:18. | :09:21. | |
introduced across other European cities. | :09:22. | :09:24. | |
Our reporter James Longman has been speaking to some of those taking | :09:25. | :09:27. | |
Norway's North Sea Coast, a new home for those made homeless by war. | :09:28. | :09:43. | |
After the attacks on women in Germany on New Year's Eve, questions | :09:44. | :09:45. | |
were asked about young, male migrants coming to Europe. Are they | :09:46. | :09:53. | |
really a danger to women? This is Western Norway, like many places | :09:54. | :09:58. | |
across Europe, it has taken its share of silence takers. But the | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
Norwegians are doing things differently, they offer refugees | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
watch Rob Holding classes, classes teaching men how to better treat | :10:06. | :10:13. | |
women. Norway has been running these classes since 2009 after a number of | :10:14. | :10:19. | |
rapes by migrants in the town of the coast. It covers rape, sexual | :10:20. | :10:22. | |
assaults, communicating with the opposite sex and understanding | :10:23. | :10:31. | |
boundaries. Even if you are in a relationship or like someone a | :10:32. | :10:41. | |
lot... One is of a Western woman in a short skirt. The men are asked | :10:42. | :10:46. | |
what the woman does for a living. Model or actress, the men reply. I | :10:47. | :10:53. | |
asked them what they make of this and if they see it in Syria? They | :10:54. | :11:01. | |
say it depends on the area. Some of them say it would be impossible. But | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
others from big cities say it is normal to see women dressed like | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
this. The men are discussing how rape is understood in Syria. In this | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
case, they are all from Syria. The discussion is going on around what | :11:17. | :11:21. | |
parts of Syria where rape would be considered illegal between a married | :11:22. | :11:24. | |
couple. They are talking about religion plays a role and culture | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
plays a role. It is the first time these guys have ever had this | :11:30. | :11:42. | |
conversation. It is useful. But the class has been criticised for | :11:43. | :11:46. | |
treating all refugees as potential rapists. Does it stigmatise them a | :11:47. | :11:56. | |
bit? I don't know. When people find out the first thing Norwegians do | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
about teaching men about gender differences? We teach them about the | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
cultural differences in many aspects. This is just one of the | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
aspects of cultural codes they should be aware of. The media has | :12:11. | :12:16. | |
been focused on the dangers... I asked the men if they felt | :12:17. | :12:23. | |
patronised? The majority of people know about sexual assaults, this man | :12:24. | :12:29. | |
says. Any rational person knows not to do it. The difference is, we | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
don't normally talk about it, you do. I am speaking with a woman, she | :12:35. | :12:42. | |
is 37 years old... This man has been living in no way the seven months. | :12:43. | :12:48. | |
He says he sees the class is helping him meet somebody. Being a refugee | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
camp the lonely existence. We are all human beings. You are 29 years | :12:53. | :13:02. | |
old, I am 27. You have Facebook, I have Facebook. I have added you, by | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
the way. What is the difference between people? | :13:09. | :13:10. | |
So should similar classes be introduced in the UK? | :13:11. | :13:13. | |
We can talk to Sarah Green from the 'End Violence | :13:14. | :13:15. | |
Against Women Coalition', Annabel Shunke a German journalist | :13:16. | :13:18. | |
that broke the story about a series of sexual assaults that happened | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
in Cologne on New Year's Eve, which has been blamed | :13:24. | :13:26. | |
on migrants and Bekele Woyeecha who was in asylum seeker | :13:27. | :13:29. | |
from Ethiopia who now works with migrants for Citizens UK. | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
Welcome to all of you. Sarah, should they be introduced here? We need to | :13:35. | :13:45. | |
start with what goes on in Britain. The women inequality committee is | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
listening to evidence from people who work in the schools talking | :13:50. | :13:54. | |
about the levels of sexual harassment and sexual violence they | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
experience. In Britain, we have endemic levels of sexual harassment, | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
including groping, terrible sexual name-calling of girls and BBC | :14:05. | :14:06. | |
research last year showed hundreds of rapes have been recorded by | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
police taking place on school premises. We have to look at the | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
context in Britain already, where there is no evidence that any group | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
disproportionately commits rape or sexual violence. What I would say | :14:21. | :14:26. | |
about the film, which is really interesting, it might make sense to | :14:27. | :14:30. | |
do that in Norway, where in the way it is compulsory to do sex and | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
relationship classes at school. I have an attitude and an idea of | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
citizenship that we share our norms, talk about this stuff and everybody | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
who lives in Norway goes through these things. It might make sense | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
said to newcomers, you should look at what we have learned at school. | :14:47. | :14:52. | |
There is something awkward about separating out refugees, foreign | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
newly arrived men as if they present a particular danger. Not least when | :14:58. | :15:03. | |
we know 90% of rapes are committed by somebody who is already known to | :15:04. | :15:08. | |
the person who is assaulted. Let me ask you, you came to Britain, how | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
many years ago now? About 11 years ago. Someone presents you with the | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
opportunity to join a class or a scheme where rape prevention is | :15:18. | :15:20. | |
talked about, what do you think about it? It shouldn't happen for | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
refugees and migrants. I am a refugee and I have never seen an | :15:27. | :15:31. | |
individual or a refugee having committed this sort of problem. I | :15:32. | :15:38. | |
don't think these classes should necessarily be for refugees and | :15:39. | :15:41. | |
migrants, it has to be for everybody else. For men in general? | :15:42. | :15:49. | |
What do you think about rolling these across Europe? To be honest, I | :15:50. | :16:04. | |
don't rate these courses. Most refugees who come here, aged 20 or | :16:05. | :16:12. | |
although, I believe the majority of men have been immersed in a | :16:13. | :16:22. | |
patriarchal system and are unlikely to | :16:23. | :16:24. | |
embrace an alien view of the interaction of the sexes. Look at | :16:25. | :16:34. | |
the third or fourth generation of young Turkish men in Germany. | :16:35. | :16:37. | |
expect them to change their attitudes. | :16:38. | :17:02. | |
You don't think they are realistic or plausible. | :17:03. | :17:10. | |
change the socialisation of people with a course. That is fair enough. | :17:11. | :17:32. | |
You spoke about what is going on in schools. Is it naive to think | :17:33. | :17:34. | |
that will change the way people behave or is that just about | :17:35. | :17:36. | |
starting early? If we get a place where we are | :17:37. | :17:48. | |
talking about respect and consent, and | :17:49. | :17:48. | |
young people are crying out for that kind of education. They | :17:49. | :17:52. | |
want to speak to adults about what is OK. | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
need to get teachers and school leaders in a better place. | :17:56. | :17:58. | |
I'm sure it could be a good thing. It is not the only solution we need. | :17:59. | :18:04. | |
need to talk about public education throughout society, a much broader | :18:05. | :18:12. | |
discussion about attitudes to women and how it | :18:13. | :18:13. | |
is OK to treat them, which MPs have spoken about. | :18:14. | :18:21. | |
saw it as a holistic thing then we could talk | :18:22. | :18:25. | |
term. I don't see those attaching themselves to this conversation | :18:26. | :18:33. | |
about foreign men being a problem talking about sexual violence and | :18:34. | :18:35. | |
this crime because it is universally committed. When you fled Ethiopia, | :18:36. | :18:57. | |
because you were a political activist, when you first got here | :18:58. | :19:06. | |
how much of a culture shock was it? It was not as | :19:07. | :19:08. | |
speak English and I worked in the American embassy. | :19:09. | :19:14. | |
But there are lots of different things, you're put in contact with | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
them on arrival and it takes time to adapt to them. It is important to | :19:20. | :19:25. | |
have anything that can help refugees and | :19:26. | :19:28. | |
people up and down the country on how to welcome refugees. | :19:29. | :19:50. | |
Let me read some messages from people watching her in the country. | :19:51. | :20:01. | |
This person said they think it is racist to | :20:02. | :20:26. | |
only have them for migrants and downplaying it for non-migrants. | :20:27. | :20:32. | |
We do not have a culture that is equal and women friendly. | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
were abducted by family members and forced to have sex with young men | :20:37. | :20:58. | |
from the family. No other members tried to protect these young women. | :20:59. | :21:01. | |
We called it rape and they called it a cultural | :21:02. | :21:14. | |
norm. In terms of what you help refugees and migrants accustom | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
themselves to, give us examples. What we normally do is organise | :21:19. | :21:24. | |
teams up and down the country, train them how to welcome refugees. One | :21:25. | :21:31. | |
will be, what does a refugee need on arrival? That includes teaching them | :21:32. | :21:42. | |
English, the basics of Britain, the culture we value so much in Britain. | :21:43. | :21:48. | |
Give them the tools so that they integrate easily. It | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
helps many. Thank you for coming on the programme. Thank you. | :21:54. | :21:59. | |
Should preventative HIV treatment known as Prep be | :22:00. | :22:02. | |
So we now almost certainly know that the next President | :22:03. | :22:17. | |
of the United States of America will either be a billionaire former | :22:18. | :22:20. | |
reality TV star or a seasoned politician who also happens to be | :22:21. | :22:23. | |
In the Republican camp we have Donald Trump | :22:24. | :22:30. | |
and in the Democratic Camp Hilary Clinton. | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
It's being reported that Hilary Clinton has passed | :22:34. | :22:35. | |
the milestone number of delegates needed to be officially nominated | :22:36. | :22:38. | |
If elected she'll become the first female President of the states.So | :22:39. | :22:42. | |
what do they both actually stand for? | :22:43. | :22:46. | |
On the economy, Hillary Clinton wants an extra 4% tax on anyone | :22:47. | :22:49. | |
She also wants to close "tax loopholes" for the wealthy. | :22:50. | :22:57. | |
Donald Trump says he wants a simpler tax system so that anyone | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
who earns less than $25,000, that's about ?16,000, | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
And he wants to lower business tax rates. | :23:06. | :23:11. | |
On healthcare, Mrs Clinton wants to expand so-called Obamacare, | :23:12. | :23:15. | |
which aims to extend the number of Americans with health insurance. | :23:16. | :23:18. | |
And she wants the government to negotiate with pharmaceutical | :23:19. | :23:22. | |
By contrast Mr Trump says Obamacare is a "disaster" | :23:23. | :23:31. | |
But he believes that "everybody's got to be covered" by some form | :23:32. | :23:35. | |
On firearms and preventing mass shootings, Hilary Clinton would be | :23:36. | :23:38. | |
the first Presidential candidate to run on a promise | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
She supports holding manufacturers liable for deaths caused by their | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
guns and expanding background checks on people buying weapons. | :23:48. | :23:49. | |
Mr Trump says "the right To bear arms shall not be | :23:50. | :23:55. | |
But in order to end mass shootings, Mr Trump wants greater investment | :23:56. | :24:02. | |
On immigration, Hilary Clinton wants to find a way of giving American | :24:03. | :24:09. | |
citizenship to millions of people living there illegally because it | :24:10. | :24:12. | |
would be too expensive to deport them so long as they meet certain | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
conditions including paying taxes and learning english. | :24:17. | :24:21. | |
Donald Trump's big immigration policy is, of course, | :24:22. | :24:23. | |
to build a huge wall between the US and Mexico to stop Mexicans coming | :24:24. | :24:26. | |
In some of his earliest campaign comments, he suggested that Mexicans | :24:27. | :24:32. | |
coming to America are largely criminals, calling some | :24:33. | :24:35. | |
He believes Mexico should pay for the wall. | :24:36. | :24:43. | |
And it's a bit of an understatement to say they don't | :24:44. | :24:46. | |
Donald Trump's ideas are not just different. | :24:47. | :24:56. | |
They are dangerously incoherent. They are not really even ideas, just | :24:57. | :25:06. | |
a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds and outright lies. | :25:07. | :25:10. | |
unprepared. He is temperamentally unfit. | :25:11. | :25:15. | |
someone who should ever have the nuclear codes. | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
Trump leading us into war just because somebody got under very thin | :25:22. | :25:28. | |
skin. Clinton is unfit to lead our | :25:29. | :25:32. | |
country. She is a weak person. Hillary Clinton is totally scripted. | :25:33. | :25:41. | |
Hillary wants it. But she does not have the | :25:42. | :26:00. | |
talent for the job, she's not a natural | :26:01. | :26:00. | |
for the job and just a natural talent. Honestly, folks, the aunt | :26:01. | :26:06. | |
me, With me now is the reporter | :26:07. | :26:06. | |
Charlie Wells from the american newspaper, The Wall Street Journal | :26:07. | :26:19. | |
and on webcam is Dan Bilefsky from the International New York | :26:20. | :26:21. | |
Times. OK, Bernie Sanders is still saying | :26:22. | :26:22. | |
it might not be Hillary Clinton but are you at the point | :26:23. | :26:33. | |
where you think it will be her? I think we still need to be careful. | :26:34. | :26:39. | |
There is a weird quirk where superdelegates play a role. They are | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
fighting for delegates elected, and super delegates who are | :26:45. | :26:46. | |
former governors, vice presidents, who can switch their vote at the | :26:47. | :26:50. | |
convention. They have that extra privilege? | :26:51. | :27:00. | |
Bearing that in mind, imagining it is Hillary Clinton. It feels like | :27:01. | :27:04. | |
she's been around in politics over three decades. What kind of | :27:05. | :27:05. | |
Democrat presidential candidate will she be? We have two people to | :27:06. | :27:17. | |
look at. Barack Obama, G has spoken about | :27:18. | :27:28. | |
seeing herself as continuing his legacy. She has the legacy of Bill | :27:29. | :27:33. | |
Clinton as well. She has said he will play a role in economic policy | :27:34. | :27:43. | |
in the White House. Dan, thank you for talking to us. What do you think | :27:44. | :27:45. | |
of Hillary Clinton? She has been around American | :27:46. | :27:52. | |
politics for decades and is arguably one of the most qualified | :27:53. | :27:55. | |
presidential candidates in recent memory. | :27:56. | :27:57. | |
At the same time she is deeply flawed. She does not pull | :27:58. | :28:15. | |
particularly well. People are fed up and she faces a | :28:16. | :28:21. | |
bruising campaign, he will invoke all sorts of difficult things. It | :28:22. | :28:30. | |
will be one of the most bruising campaigns. She has spoken about his | :28:31. | :28:43. | |
business record and said she is unfit to be president that he is | :28:44. | :28:50. | |
unfit. There will be a lot of people looking at his finances. She will | :28:51. | :29:04. | |
present him as a demagogue who is unfit for the Oval Office. He is | :29:05. | :29:06. | |
trying to present her as being shrill and not worthy of the | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
presidency, saying that she cannot be trusted because she used | :29:12. | :29:13. | |
her e-mail servers in a personal capacity. It | :29:14. | :29:20. | |
will be very nasty. Do you think Hillary Clinton has work to do in | :29:21. | :29:24. | |
her own party to get everyone to unite behind her? | :29:25. | :29:28. | |
Democratic primary which nobody expected. | :29:29. | :29:34. | |
Bernie Sanders, a Socialist senator from Vermont, was not expected to | :29:35. | :29:38. | |
still be in the race at this point. There are supporters of him who have | :29:39. | :29:46. | |
been posting about how they are going to go to the Democratic | :29:47. | :29:51. | |
convention and cause chaos. Hillary Clinton does not want this. Why | :29:52. | :29:53. | |
does she want to be president? It is interesting. She's been fighting in | :29:54. | :29:59. | |
the trenches since her husband was starting his own career in the | :30:00. | :30:08. | |
1970s. She's been through changes and challenges. Exactly one year | :30:09. | :30:17. | |
ago, eight years ago, in 2008, when she lost the primary to Barack | :30:18. | :30:21. | |
Obama, she said it is the hardest, highest glass ceiling. She did not | :30:22. | :30:23. | |
shatter it then. Why some children are having to wait | :30:24. | :30:30. | |
years to get treatment And Should preventative HIV | :30:31. | :30:39. | |
treatment known as Prep be Jack says, I am not HIV-positive, | :30:40. | :30:59. | |
but my partner is. I have the right to have a healthy, safe sex life | :31:00. | :31:05. | |
with the person I have chosen to spend my life with. Prep gives me | :31:06. | :31:10. | |
this. Without it, I would almost certainly become a HIV-positive two. | :31:11. | :32:28. | |
Turkish officials say seven of the dead were police officers. | :32:29. | :32:42. | |
The bomb exploded during the morning rush hour and is believed to have | :32:43. | :32:44. | |
No group has yet said it carried out the attack. | :32:45. | :32:48. | |
Hillary Clinton has reportedly won enough votes to secure the | :32:49. | :32:54. | |
Democratic party nomination. Six states including California, are | :32:55. | :32:57. | |
holding primaries later. Bernie Sanders says it is too early for the | :32:58. | :33:03. | |
media to declare a winner, but the Associated Press news agency says | :33:04. | :33:07. | |
Hillary Clinton cannot now be caught. | :33:08. | :33:10. | |
Dozens of schoolchildren have been rescued by helicopter and lifeboat | :33:11. | :33:13. | |
after becoming trapped by the rising tide on a beach in Kent. | :33:14. | :33:16. | |
The group of 34 teenagers and two adults from a school in London, | :33:17. | :33:19. | |
were hiking when they become stuck between St Margaret's Bay and Dover. | :33:20. | :33:22. | |
The children, seen here getting off a coastguard boat, | :33:23. | :33:25. | |
used lights on their mobile phones to help rescue teams locate them. | :33:26. | :33:30. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :33:31. | :33:39. | |
After arriving at their European Championship base | :33:40. | :33:49. | |
in Chantee in France, England are currently in their first | :33:50. | :33:51. | |
Southampton full-back Ryan Bertrand is the only absentee, | :33:52. | :33:55. | |
he missed last week's friendly win over Portugal. | :33:56. | :33:58. | |
The main talking point has been around Jamie Vardy's | :33:59. | :33:59. | |
proposed transfer to Arsenal from champions Leicester. | :34:00. | :34:01. | |
England kick off their campaign against Russia on Saturday. | :34:02. | :34:04. | |
We'll also be hearing today from Northern Ireland, | :34:05. | :34:06. | |
as they continue their preparations for their first match | :34:07. | :34:08. | |
Kyle Lafferty and Craig Cathcart are expected to feature in training, | :34:09. | :34:14. | |
The employment tribunal brought by former Chelsea team doctor | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
Eva Carneiro against the club and former manager Jose Mourinho | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
goes into a second day with Carneiro expected to appear | :34:22. | :34:24. | |
Carneiro is alleging victimisation and discrimination | :34:25. | :34:30. | |
by Mourinho and Chelsea, which they deny. | :34:31. | :34:35. | |
That is all the sportswear now. There will be more across the | :34:36. | :34:42. | |
morning and the day on the BBC News Channel. | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
If you have a child with mental health issues, how long did | :34:47. | :34:49. | |
A new report claims that it can be up to a decade between children | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
displaying their first symptom and getting help. | :34:55. | :34:56. | |
The Centre for Mental Health say during that period problems become | :34:57. | :34:59. | |
entrenched and can escalate to crisis point and the longer | :35:00. | :35:01. | |
a child goes without help, the more it's likely to cast | :35:02. | :35:04. | |
Her 12-year-old son Harrison waited two and a half | :35:05. | :35:09. | |
years to get treatment for his anxiety and depression. | :35:10. | :35:12. | |
Pooky Knightsmith had anorexia as a child and now works | :35:13. | :35:15. | |
with children who have mental health problems. | :35:16. | :35:17. | |
And Sean Duggan's from the Centre for Mental Health | :35:18. | :35:20. | |
This is about the time that passes about first showing symptoms and | :35:21. | :35:39. | |
getting help. It is too long. Ten years was surprisingly to me, but we | :35:40. | :35:47. | |
will hear about the delays as we go forward. But it is too long. One | :35:48. | :35:52. | |
reason is it is difficult to get access to specialist child and | :35:53. | :35:55. | |
adolescent mental health services. The other reason is, young children | :35:56. | :36:00. | |
and parents don't often recognise the early symptoms as being part of | :36:01. | :36:05. | |
the mental health problem. Why would a child recognise that, or have the | :36:06. | :36:09. | |
vocabulary to express what is going on in their head? Precisely, if we | :36:10. | :36:16. | |
help parents and schools to pick up the signs more quickly and then do | :36:17. | :36:22. | |
something about it to refer on. When signs or symptoms are picked up, | :36:23. | :36:28. | |
sometimes they don't want to go for treatment because of the stigma. The | :36:29. | :36:33. | |
stigma with mental health issues and children is probably more pronounced | :36:34. | :36:37. | |
in children than adults. It is getting better, but more needs to be | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
tackled. Harrison is 12, has anxiety and depression. Can you recall when | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
he first started displaying the symptoms? It all started when he was | :36:46. | :36:53. | |
about seven. He did start to self harm in class, his anxiety levels | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
were high. He has a diagnosis of high functioning autism as well. | :36:59. | :37:02. | |
Things got bad when he was about nine and he started talking about | :37:03. | :37:08. | |
suicide. Did you seek help when he was self-harming and what kind of | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
help was available? When he was seven he was able to get some help | :37:13. | :37:18. | |
and had some counselling sessions. A few years later, the funding | :37:19. | :37:25. | |
changed. It was taken over, it had a different name and we were rejected | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
about six times in total of six times. Why was that? They said it | :37:30. | :37:41. | |
was an overactive imagination. That is alarming, to say the least. It | :37:42. | :37:48. | |
is, because you fear a misdiagnosis and also you imagine that young | :37:49. | :37:53. | |
person and the adults around them trying to support them, getting to | :37:54. | :37:57. | |
the point where you look the help and then being told to go well. -- | :37:58. | :38:02. | |
go away. It is so frustrating and distressing. The work you do with | :38:03. | :38:08. | |
young children, what is that? I work at a memorial trust, a charity who | :38:09. | :38:14. | |
work with schools and other organisations working with young | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
people, to help empower them, help them recognise mental health issues | :38:19. | :38:21. | |
in young people and also recognise what they can do. We are hearing | :38:22. | :38:27. | |
there is a crisis and lots of things going on and we feel out of control. | :38:28. | :38:32. | |
We provide funded support to say, these are the things you can do, | :38:33. | :38:38. | |
training to help you recognise the warning signs. Support for the | :38:39. | :38:41. | |
teachers to help them teach young people about their own mental | :38:42. | :38:44. | |
health. How we can help people. Is it OK to go online, to go on forums | :38:45. | :38:52. | |
to talk about problems you might have as 12, 13-year-old? Is that | :38:53. | :38:59. | |
getting or not? I don't think so. Going online, you are just putting | :39:00. | :39:05. | |
yourself out there, anybody could be online and could be saying things to | :39:06. | :39:12. | |
make you feel worse. That is what a teenager might do, that is where | :39:13. | :39:17. | |
they might go first? You are nodding? You can get some help and | :39:18. | :39:24. | |
advice, organisations provide excellent help. There have been some | :39:25. | :39:31. | |
good results of support online. What we know from the search, if a young | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
child has got what they think might be a mental health problem, the last | :39:37. | :39:43. | |
place they will go to is a clinic voluntarily. I will go to their | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
peers, their parents and school. So there is a role for that, but it | :39:49. | :39:54. | |
does have to be carefully managed. If it is monitored, it is fine but | :39:55. | :39:59. | |
my son went online to look up methods on how to kill himself. The | :40:00. | :40:03. | |
thing with online support, the parents did some excellent research | :40:04. | :40:06. | |
and work directly with giving people and understood their views. What we | :40:07. | :40:13. | |
found was, it is one of the first places young people will go, but the | :40:14. | :40:19. | |
role of the school is to educate young people so they can do it | :40:20. | :40:24. | |
safely. They need to be a critical consumer, is this a good, safe | :40:25. | :40:28. | |
source of support. They need to recognise in each other when a peer | :40:29. | :40:35. | |
is not accessing something helpful. You get a young people who feels | :40:36. | :40:40. | |
they might feel incredibly alone and isolated and then suddenly they are | :40:41. | :40:45. | |
amongst community who understands. Young people will be looking for | :40:46. | :40:50. | |
help but they find in this community who are perhaps encouraging the | :40:51. | :40:55. | |
problem. The message is, is to parents of children old enough to | :40:56. | :41:01. | |
acknowledge, if they are feeling anxious, Lowell or lacking in | :41:02. | :41:04. | |
confidence, they ought to do something because the longer you | :41:05. | :41:09. | |
leave it, the harder it will be? That is the clear message. Go and | :41:10. | :41:15. | |
see your GP. That would be a good port of call, go and see your GP. | :41:16. | :41:19. | |
The message to services and commissioners, people who have the | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
money, focus on this area and prioritise this area. This can feel | :41:24. | :41:28. | |
like an area of crisis right now, but there are huge steps being taken | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
and there is a lot more work happening between education and | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
helpful tests -- health. There is real cause for help. There is some | :41:39. | :41:41. | |
investment going into it. ?1.4 billion into transforming | :41:42. | :41:44. | |
support for young people in every David Cameron is warning about | :41:45. | :42:16. | |
leaving the EU. Norman Smith is in London. Yesterday it was up on under | :42:17. | :42:21. | |
the economy, mortar might he be saying today, normal? I think he is | :42:22. | :42:27. | |
going to cite a series of warnings by what he calls economic | :42:28. | :42:31. | |
heavyweights who are delivering a reality check to the Brexit camp. | :42:32. | :42:38. | |
The boss of Hitachi, they employ thousands of people in Britain and | :42:39. | :42:43. | |
their boss has said this morning, the cold, economic reality of | :42:44. | :42:47. | |
leaving the EU was job losses. The second warning comes from the boss | :42:48. | :42:52. | |
of the World Trade Organisation, who has described Brexit as a high risk | :42:53. | :42:57. | |
bet and says renegotiating our trade arrangements could possibly take | :42:58. | :43:01. | |
decades. And the third warning has come from the best of the US Federal | :43:02. | :43:06. | |
Reserve, who has talked about the significance economic risks of an | :43:07. | :43:10. | |
exit. David Cameron was say this is a reality check for those who are | :43:11. | :43:16. | |
thinking about leaving the EU. He wants to keep focusing on the | :43:17. | :43:20. | |
economy. Michael Gove, who has been out and about in Suffolk, is saying, | :43:21. | :43:25. | |
these are the same people who got it wrong over the single currency. I | :43:26. | :43:31. | |
believe many of the organisations and individuals who have argued in | :43:32. | :43:35. | |
the past that we should embrace the euro and making the same arguments | :43:36. | :43:39. | |
now over the membership of the European Union. Ultimately, the | :43:40. | :43:43. | |
economic welfare and benefits are people in this country will be | :43:44. | :43:47. | |
greater if we choose to leave. If we were to take back control of taxes | :43:48. | :43:53. | |
and trade policy, we can forge new trade deals with countries like | :43:54. | :43:56. | |
America, Canada, India and Japan. It is also the case we will be able to | :43:57. | :44:03. | |
spend some of the money that is currently spent on our behalf at the | :44:04. | :44:08. | |
European Union, on our priorities. It is a win, win if you choose to | :44:09. | :44:15. | |
leave. You just sends the pace of this referendum campaign is hotting | :44:16. | :44:18. | |
up. I have just come across the river from the Jeremy Corbyn labour | :44:19. | :44:22. | |
event. There is a real sense of urgency beginning to grip the | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
remains side, following three polls we have had recently showing Leave | :44:27. | :44:31. | |
beginning to move ahead and build a bit of a gap. Speaking to Labour's | :44:32. | :44:38. | |
deputy leader on the other side of the river, he said he was worried | :44:39. | :44:43. | |
about the polls and about the Labour vote. | :44:44. | :44:45. | |
that Labour voters do not know that we want them to | :44:46. | :44:54. | |
vote remain but I can understand that. You | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
have a kind of psychodrama as David Cameron describes it with the | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
campaign, you've got Cabinet ministers slugging it out. | :45:03. | :45:10. | |
Our job is to find space with broadcasters and media to get our | :45:11. | :45:20. | |
message out to Labour supporters. As the remain side focus remorselessly | :45:21. | :45:31. | |
on the economic argument, on the side of leaving they are saying we | :45:32. | :45:34. | |
have lost there are serious offenders who have | :45:35. | :45:41. | |
not been deported because They need to be judged to be present | :45:42. | :45:48. | |
threat to public safety the UK. Dozens of schoolchildren have been | :45:49. | :45:57. | |
rescued by helicopter and lifeboat after becoming trapped by the rising | :45:58. | :46:26. | |
tide on a beach in Kent. They became disorientated and the | :46:27. | :46:33. | |
tide was coming in. A huge search alerted the | :46:34. | :46:39. | |
authorities. The children were advised to use | :46:40. | :46:48. | |
their mobile phones because it was getting dark at that stage. | :46:49. | :46:56. | |
this group... Fortunately they were located quickly. | :46:57. | :47:04. | |
people are advised not to walk along it. | :47:05. | :47:11. | |
of the cliffs, after having a day out walking along the base of the | :47:12. | :47:52. | |
cliffs. It is a large-scale operation, it is | :47:53. | :48:10. | |
1am and we have more work to be done for these volunteers can go home. | :48:11. | :48:15. | |
that area is different and people lose their lives. | :48:16. | :48:30. | |
in the future, people read the advice, come to the seaside and | :48:31. | :48:41. | |
enjoy it. It is an amazing place but please be | :48:42. | :48:42. | |
Yes, it is unclear how long they were | :48:43. | :49:02. | |
walking but they were part of a hiking group. | :49:03. | :49:06. | |
It was a huge operation involving a huge number of people. | :49:07. | :49:15. | |
would have had to go past nine warning signs. So | :49:16. | :49:24. | |
of the nice weather but check the times of the tides and don't go | :49:25. | :49:28. | |
places you should not be going to. AIDS campaigners are going to court | :49:29. | :49:33. | |
to challenge an NHS England decision not to offer a preventative | :49:34. | :49:36. | |
HIV drug treatment. Prep is a course of drugs taken | :49:37. | :49:41. | |
by people at high risk It can reduce the risk | :49:42. | :49:43. | |
of infection by more Critics say it | :49:44. | :49:47. | |
encourages unsafe sex. NHS England say they don't | :49:48. | :49:51. | |
have the legal power Let's talk with the director of | :49:52. | :49:53. | |
strategy. And in Guilford is Professor Sheena | :49:54. | :50:07. | |
McCormack, who was the chief investigator on a study | :50:08. | :50:09. | |
into the treatment. Tell us why you're taking this to | :50:10. | :50:12. | |
court. issue in the UK. 17 people are | :50:13. | :50:30. | |
diagnosed every day. We have been promoting condom is and they do work | :50:31. | :50:36. | |
to control the epidemic but we're not seeing a reduction in rates of | :50:37. | :50:41. | |
transmission. We've been waiting for a new tool in the armoury for | :50:42. | :50:45. | |
decades and this has arrived and it is | :50:46. | :50:45. | |
effective, almost 100% effective if you take it as prescribed. | :50:46. | :50:52. | |
The US and France have it in their systems, NHS England | :50:53. | :50:57. | |
started work in 2014 to look at the case for it. I was on the working | :50:58. | :51:00. | |
group. In March, a few months before the | :51:01. | :51:04. | |
decision was to be made, they pulled it from the | :51:05. | :51:15. | |
process. We have a statement from NHS England. | :51:16. | :51:31. | |
commissions immunisation programmes, HIV testing, it does a lot of | :51:32. | :51:56. | |
prevention work, we disagree and we are going to court. | :51:57. | :52:01. | |
Explained to the audience what it is. Preexposure prophylactic. It is | :52:02. | :52:12. | |
taking a drug that ahead of exposure. | :52:13. | :52:16. | |
We use one drug which combines two others which we use for the | :52:17. | :52:19. | |
treatment of HIV in one pill. We conducted a trial in clinics and | :52:20. | :52:38. | |
we randomised gay men to have the pill. | :52:39. | :52:40. | |
For those who did not have it, it was very high. It showed that they | :52:41. | :52:47. | |
needed the extra tool in their toolkit. | :52:48. | :52:51. | |
In those who had taken it the reduction was 86%. | :52:52. | :53:00. | |
It is nearly 100% effective and by taking this drug in these periods it | :53:01. | :53:06. | |
prevents people taking the drug plus one other for the rest of their | :53:07. | :53:08. | |
life. Jerome says he is HIV-positive, he | :53:09. | :53:08. | |
has not been cured but as a carrier. He was told the expense is why it is | :53:09. | :53:33. | |
not available. Also if you miss a couple of days it will not work. | :53:34. | :53:37. | |
This person says they were diagnosed with HIV 21 years ago. They think it | :53:38. | :53:45. | |
is a bad move and people should be responsible. The drugs are very | :53:46. | :53:52. | |
expensive and with budget short burdened to fund their | :53:53. | :54:10. | |
irresponsibility? What do you think? The appropriate comparison is not | :54:11. | :54:17. | |
between the cost of this treatment, it will go down in another 18 months | :54:18. | :54:20. | |
very significantly because it becomes a generic drug. Compare the | :54:21. | :54:25. | |
cost of it with the cost of paying for lifelong HIV | :54:26. | :54:27. | |
treatment. Does it encourage this? There is no | :54:28. | :54:49. | |
evidence of significant increases among those taking it. | :54:50. | :54:55. | |
This is being made by a man with HIV. I | :54:56. | :55:09. | |
what is effective at reducing transmission risk. | :55:10. | :55:20. | |
James says it should be available because it is cost-effective. | :55:21. | :55:41. | |
I want to ask the question about why we | :55:42. | :55:45. | |
should pay the same price for prevention as treatment. | :55:46. | :55:49. | |
The company which makes this drug has expressed a willingness to | :55:50. | :56:00. | |
charge less. Why don't we tackle that angle? I | :56:01. | :56:01. | |
have messages from people listening to you. This | :56:02. | :56:04. | |
person says trials are being run in London | :56:05. | :56:06. | |
where it is given to people where one partner is | :56:07. | :56:19. | |
positive and the other is negative. Another person not leaving the name | :56:20. | :56:21. | |
says it can be considered to be the the long run and will and the | :56:22. | :56:31. | |
pandemic. It is just another layer of protection. Is that how you see | :56:32. | :56:40. | |
it? Yes. For the majority of gay men, they will not need help from | :56:41. | :56:47. | |
this. They will be in monogamous relationships. I think the rule for | :56:48. | :56:58. | |
this is for a proportion of gay men going through a period where they | :56:59. | :57:00. | |
cannot use condom is consistently. It makes sense to fund this pill. | :57:01. | :57:18. | |
How long will this legal process take before we have a conclusion? | :57:19. | :57:25. | |
I think all sides wanted to be sorted out. It will not take long. | :57:26. | :57:35. | |
We are asking the Minister to sit down with us. | :57:36. | :57:38. | |
Let's talk about how we can make it cost-effective. | :57:39. | :57:42. | |
How do you do that? We are making our case but we would like to | :57:43. | :57:47. | |
meet face-to-face. We've not had replied to letter. We think | :57:48. | :57:50. | |
the way forward is collaboration and cooperation. | :57:51. | :58:03. | |
John says it is an utter disgrace. We expect that on the NHS. | :58:04. | :58:14. | |
raised. Thank you both for coming on the programme. | :58:15. | :58:22. | |
with the Olympic hopeful who came out on | :58:23. | :58:31. |