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It's Wednesday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, | :00:07. | :00:10. | |
Our top story today - the battle of Aleppo is over - | :00:11. | :00:15. | |
but residents are still waiting to be evacuated from | :00:16. | :00:18. | |
the northern Syrian city - they've painted a horrific picture | :00:19. | :00:20. | |
To everyone who can hear me, we are here exposed to genocide in the | :00:21. | :00:32. | |
besieged city of Aleppo. This maybe my last video. I hope you can | :00:33. | :00:39. | |
remember us. I don't know. Thank you very much. | :00:40. | :00:42. | |
Also on the programme - a British man who tried | :00:43. | :00:44. | |
to assassinate Donald Trump has been sentenced to a year and a day | :00:45. | :00:47. | |
We'll get reaction from his mum who feared for her autistic | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
And British actor Douglas Booth who's starred in Great Expectations | :00:53. | :00:59. | |
and the Riot club is just back from Iraq where he's been | :01:00. | :01:02. | |
Throughout the programme this morning we'll bring you the latest | :01:03. | :01:25. | |
breaking news and developing stories - the latest unemployment figures | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
are due out in around half an hour - we'll bring those to you as soon | :01:29. | :01:32. | |
as they happen and former football coach Barry Bennell is due to appear | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
in court in the next hour charged with child sex offences. | :01:36. | :01:37. | |
We'll have a reporter inside court with all the details. | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
Plus a little later in the programme, David Beckham and British | :01:41. | :01:42. | |
Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning. | :01:43. | :01:47. | |
Use the hashtag Victoria Live and If you text, you will be charged | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
The four-year battle for the Syrian city of Aleppo appears to be ending. | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
Despite the ceasefire, there are reports that government | :01:56. | :01:57. | |
forces resumed shelling of rebel-held districts | :01:58. | :01:58. | |
The United Nations estimates that up to 50,000 civilians remain - | :01:59. | :02:08. | |
and it's demanding access for international observers, | :02:09. | :02:10. | |
Now that the fighting has stopped buses, have arrived ready to take | :02:11. | :02:29. | |
rebel fighters and their families away from their former stronghold, | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
but they're not leaving yet as negotiations over their exit | :02:33. | :02:34. | |
And this has meant the evacuation of sick and injured civilians | :02:35. | :02:40. | |
Ambulances were turned back this morning. | :02:41. | :02:47. | |
Many of those who had been trapped in the crossfire have already tried | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
to flee taking with them what little they have after a battle that | :02:51. | :02:53. | |
For four years, the regime here has been fighting to win back | :02:54. | :03:02. | |
In recent weeks, backed by its Russian and Iranian allies, | :03:03. | :03:07. | |
Finally resulting in victory for the Syrian forces. | :03:08. | :03:14. | |
Now, in the aftermath, they stand accused of war crimes. | :03:15. | :03:16. | |
The United Nations says it has received credible reports of scores | :03:17. | :03:19. | |
of civilians being killed either by intense bombardment | :03:20. | :03:22. | |
or summary execution by pro-Government forces, | :03:23. | :03:23. | |
something the regime strongly denies. | :03:24. | :03:30. | |
At an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council, | :03:31. | :03:33. | |
the United States ambassador said she believed that victory | :03:34. | :03:35. | |
The regime and its Russian allies will only be emboldened | :03:36. | :03:53. | |
to replicate their starve and surrender and slaughter | :03:54. | :03:55. | |
This will be their model for attempt to go re-take cities | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
It will not end with Aleppo and it will not focus on terrorists. | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
More than 300,000 people have been killed since | :04:04. | :04:05. | |
The capture of Aleppo may be a significant victory | :04:06. | :04:11. | |
for the Government, but the country's struggles | :04:12. | :04:13. | |
We are going to talk much more about Aleppo. Let me bring you this. I'm | :04:14. | :04:26. | |
going to pause. Our correspondent Tomos Morgan | :04:27. | :04:29. | |
is in Beirut with the latest. What can you tell us about reports | :04:30. | :04:39. | |
of resumed shelling this morning? That's right right. We first heard | :04:40. | :04:48. | |
reports by pro-opposition media Iranian backed militants had been | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
shelling the east of Aleppo. Activists had been saying the same | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
thing and sources close to the BBC echoing those calls. Russia now, the | :04:56. | :05:01. | |
latest to say that firing has now restarted. They are blaming the | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
rebels for restarting the fighting in east Aleppo saying that the | :05:07. | :05:12. | |
rebels fired at dawn. They used the small window of ceasefire that | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
happened over the past 12 hours as an opportunity to regroup. But it | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
appears as though that ceasefire has not lasted very long. Fighting is | :05:22. | :05:27. | |
continuing for those tens of thousands of civilians who are | :05:28. | :05:30. | |
trapped in the city who were hoping to leave, they are now in the same | :05:31. | :05:33. | |
situation as they have been for the past four years, but in a much more | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
condensed area. People fearing because it is so more congested that | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
the loss of life maybe Greater. Right. And we were told that there | :05:42. | :05:45. | |
were effectively buses on the outskirts of the east of the city | :05:46. | :05:51. | |
waiting to evacuate those civilians, but if shelling has restarted, are | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
they going to hang around those buses or what? Well, from what we | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
understand those buses did arrive. They were waiting and there were | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
injured and sick patients already on the buses waiting to leave. Some | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
people tried to leave before the proposed evacuation time which was | :06:09. | :06:11. | |
0500 hours, that was about six hours ago now. But nothing ever happened. | :06:12. | :06:17. | |
Nobody ever left. One of the reasons for that, it is assumed, it was | :06:18. | :06:22. | |
because the Syrian pro-Government forces wanted their troops to be | :06:23. | :06:28. | |
evacuated from towns and villages in northern Syria which were circled by | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
the rebels. So they were unwilling for the deal to continue unless they | :06:33. | :06:38. | |
had a slice of that bargain. Talks will be continuing today according | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
Turkish officials, talks between Turkey and Russia and hoping to | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
bring this ceasefire to an end, the hope for the civilians still trapped | :06:49. | :06:55. | |
in east Aleppo. Thank you very much, Momas. | :06:56. | :06:57. | |
Back here, Lancashire Police say they have dropped an investigation | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
into an alleged attack on the Strictly Dancer after finding no | :07:03. | :07:05. | |
evidence that an assault took place, they say. The dancer was said to | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
have been the victim of an unprovoked attack outside a | :07:11. | :07:13. | |
Blackpool nightclub after the filming of Strictly, but police say | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
examination of CCTV footage of the location of the alleged assault | :07:19. | :07:22. | |
failed to reveal any evidence of the incident. A spokesman for Lancashire | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
Police said we have carried out an ainvestigation and no arrests have | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
been made. We never received a complaint from the victim and any | :07:31. | :07:34. | |
injuries sustained were seen to be of a minor nature. | :07:35. | :07:37. | |
Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
The former football coach Barry Bennell is due to appear | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
at Crewe Magistrates' Court this morning via video-link. | :07:45. | :07:46. | |
The ex-Crewe Alexandra youth coach, who is 62, has been charged | :07:47. | :07:48. | |
with eight offences of sexual assault against a boy | :07:49. | :07:50. | |
State schools in England will have to find ?3 billion | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
in savings by 2020, according to the public spending watchdog. | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
The National Audit Office says schools are not ready for the "scale | :08:00. | :08:02. | |
The warning comes as ministers are expected to announce | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
a new formula for allocating funding, as our Education | :08:07. | :08:08. | |
Correspondent Gillian Hargreaves reports. | :08:09. | :08:10. | |
Making the numbers add up can be a stressful business. | :08:11. | :08:12. | |
Tanbridge House School in West Sussex has 1,500 pupils | :08:13. | :08:14. | |
and a budget of around ?6 million a year. | :08:15. | :08:17. | |
But it struggles to keep the books balanced because pupils | :08:18. | :08:19. | |
in West Sussex receive around ?1,800 less than in other schools. | :08:20. | :08:29. | |
In teaching terms, if I was funded just down the road, | :08:30. | :08:36. | |
like an area in Brighton, I'd be able to employ around | :08:37. | :08:39. | |
If I were in Greenwich, that number would rise to about 80. | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
I would effectively be able to double my staffing. | :08:44. | :08:45. | |
Now, the Government plans to make the distribution of cash more equal | :08:46. | :08:48. | |
In a report out today, the National Audit Office says that | :08:49. | :08:57. | |
overall school funding isn't keeping pace with increased pupil numbers, | :08:58. | :08:59. | |
the rising cost of national insurance and pension contributions. | :09:00. | :09:05. | |
As a result, ?3 billion of savings will have to be made by 2020. | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
60% of secondary schools will be in the red with deficits averaging | :09:09. | :09:11. | |
Without more money, Tanbridge might have seen its class numbers rise, | :09:12. | :09:21. | |
but while it's likely to be a winner other schools in places | :09:22. | :09:23. | |
like Inner London, Coventry and Doncaster could lose out. | :09:24. | :09:26. | |
Though the Government promises no school will see its budget cut | :09:27. | :09:28. | |
Train bosses and unions will start formal talks this morning | :09:29. | :09:46. | |
in an effort to resolve the Southern Rail dispute. | :09:47. | :09:48. | |
The company has advised its 300,000 daily passengers not to travel, | :09:49. | :09:51. | |
after ASLEF and RMT members walked out yesterday. | :09:52. | :09:53. | |
Southern and the unions have agreed to meet | :09:54. | :09:55. | |
There was a rise in reported cases of hate crime after the EU | :09:56. | :10:08. | |
referendum, according to Britain's most senior policeman. | :10:09. | :10:10. | |
Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe told the BBC cases rose by as much | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
as three-quarters in the three months after the vote, but had now | :10:14. | :10:16. | |
fallen back towards the level before the referendum. | :10:17. | :10:18. | |
He described the prevalence of offences as "quite shocking" | :10:19. | :10:20. | |
and promised to protect anyone who was threatened. | :10:21. | :10:22. | |
A British man who tried to grab a police officer's gun | :10:23. | :10:25. | |
at a Donald Trump rally has been sentenced to 12 months in prison | :10:26. | :10:28. | |
Michael Sandford, who is 20, pleaded guilty to possessing | :10:29. | :10:34. | |
a firearm and disrupting the campaign rally in Las Vegas | :10:35. | :10:36. | |
He admitted that he had approached a policeman, | :10:37. | :10:39. | |
saying he wanted Mr Trump's autograph. | :10:40. | :10:43. | |
The UK ranks 54th in the world for 4G coverage, behind | :10:44. | :10:46. | |
the likes of Romania, Albania and Peru, | :10:47. | :10:47. | |
with many mobile users still struggling to get signal. | :10:48. | :10:50. | |
The National Infrastructure Commission says the Government must | :10:51. | :10:58. | |
of technology, 5G or risk languishing in the "digital slow | :10:59. | :11:01. | |
Where have you been where you failed to get a mobile phone signal? | :11:02. | :11:13. | |
Everywhere. 4G doesn't always work that efficiently, even in London. | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
Well, wherever you are in the country let us know if you can get a | :11:19. | :11:24. | |
4G signal quite interesting, down the think, that we come behind | :11:25. | :11:31. | |
Romania and Peru etcetera. Let us know what the mobile phone signal is | :11:32. | :11:33. | |
wherever you are in the UK. What happened in the Premier League | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
last night, Jessica? Arsenal had the chance to go top | :11:39. | :11:47. | |
of the table last night but blew it The Gunners will certainly | :11:48. | :11:50. | |
be disappointed. They've scored 12 goals | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
in their past three games, This was an opportunity | :11:54. | :11:59. | |
to really throw their hat in the ring and say, | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
"Yes, we are genuine title But they became unstuck | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
against an Everton side really Alexis Sanchez got Arsenal off | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
to a good start with this free kick. But that woke Everton | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
up and they equalised Then Ashley Williams popped up | :12:16. | :12:17. | |
with the winner late on. That's only Everton's | :12:18. | :12:20. | |
second win in 11 games. Also last night, Bournemouth are up | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
to their highest ever position in the top flight, | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
eighth, after beating Leicester 1-0. And in the Scottish Premiership, | :12:29. | :12:30. | |
Celtic have an 11-point lead at the top after a 1-0 | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
win against Hamilton. More fallout from the | :12:35. | :12:42. | |
Russian doping scandal? The Russian city of Sochi will no | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
longer host the bobsleigh This comes after a recent report | :12:48. | :12:49. | |
which alleges that more than 1,000 Russian athletes were part | :12:50. | :12:56. | |
of a blood-doping cover-up And so the governing body | :12:57. | :12:58. | |
the International Bobsleigh and Skeleton Federation will name | :12:59. | :13:05. | |
a new host city for the competition, You might remember there | :13:06. | :13:08. | |
were threats of boycotts from some high-profile names in the sport | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
including Britain's Olympic She's reacted to the decision, | :13:13. | :13:16. | |
saying she's happy the sport There's been talk of one | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
Formula One's biggest sets of rivals It seems hard to believe, | :13:22. | :13:30. | |
considering their intense battle for the title this year, | :13:31. | :13:36. | |
but yes, world champion Nico Rosberg says he and former Mercedes teammate | :13:37. | :13:38. | |
Lewis Hamilton can "have a laugh together" now that | :13:39. | :13:41. | |
Rosberg has retired! They were good friends as teenagers | :13:42. | :13:43. | |
when they were go-kart racing, but the strain of being on the same | :13:44. | :13:46. | |
team and challenging for the title over the past three seasons | :13:47. | :13:49. | |
really took its toll. It seems as though they're both | :13:50. | :13:51. | |
putting that behind them, though. Remember those pictures of a young | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
boy from Afghanistan wearing a blue-and-white carrier bag | :13:57. | :14:06. | |
as a football shirt to replicate The pictures went across the world | :14:07. | :14:08. | |
on social media and the boy Well, that same little boy | :14:09. | :14:16. | |
actually got to meet Messi. He got to walk out | :14:17. | :14:22. | |
onto the pitch with him. Having so much fun, | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
didn't want to leave. He wants to play for Barcelona by | :14:28. | :14:41. | |
the looks of it. Gorgeous. Thank you very much, Jess, thank you. | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
There are reports that shelling has resumed | :14:47. | :14:49. | |
in the Syrian city of Aleppo, a day after a ceasefire was agreed | :14:50. | :14:52. | |
between the government and rebel fighters. | :14:53. | :14:55. | |
Witnesses say government forces began firing on rebel-held districts | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
in eastern Aleppo but that it stopped after half an hour. | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
Meanwhile the planned evacuation of civilians and rebel fighters | :15:03. | :15:10. | |
from the city has been delayed, as the government there demands | :15:11. | :15:13. | |
a simultaneous evacuation for its own injured fighters. | :15:14. | :15:15. | |
Aleppo has been a key battleground in the war between forces loyal | :15:16. | :15:17. | |
to President Bashar al-Assad and rebels who want | :15:18. | :15:19. | |
People living in the East, have faced non-stop bombardment | :15:20. | :15:27. | |
from pro-government forces for the last two days | :15:28. | :15:29. | |
with reports of barrel bombs, dead bodies in the streets, | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
and claims that civilians were being shot dead | :15:34. | :15:35. | |
This time yesterday on the programme we were reporting the tweets | :15:36. | :15:40. | |
of desperate residents trapped in the Syrian city of | :15:41. | :15:42. | |
Here are some of the social media videos people have been posting | :15:43. | :15:46. | |
To everyone who can hear me, we are here exposed to a genocide | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
We are tried to get in touch with him to get him back on the | :15:53. | :17:09. | |
programme. In an interview on Russian Today, | :17:10. | :17:11. | |
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said that the West does not care | :17:12. | :17:14. | |
about civilians in Aleppo. Here's an extract from | :17:15. | :17:17. | |
that the interview, If we liberate Aleppo | :17:18. | :17:18. | |
from terrorists, Western officials and mainstream media would be | :17:19. | :17:21. | |
worried about civilians. They do not worry when the opposite | :17:22. | :17:25. | |
happens, when terrorists kill those civilians or attack Palmyra | :17:26. | :17:29. | |
and start destroying the human heritage, not | :17:30. | :17:34. | |
only Syrian heritage. In an extraordinary intervention | :17:35. | :17:37. | |
last night, US Ambassador to the United Nations Stephanie Power | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
asked Syria, Russia and Iran whether there was literally nothing | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
that could shame them. You in truly incapable of shame? Is | :17:45. | :17:57. | |
there literally nothing that can shame you? Is there no act of | :17:58. | :18:07. | |
barbarism against civilians, no execution of a child that gets under | :18:08. | :18:10. | |
your skin, that creeps you out a little bit? | :18:11. | :18:20. | |
I gather you can hear shelling right now? Tell us what is going on. About | :18:21. | :18:29. | |
three hours ago the shelling and bombing started to hit the besieged | :18:30. | :18:39. | |
city by the Iranians and Syrian regime. We heard there is a problem | :18:40. | :18:50. | |
with... You can hear that? I heard it. There is a problem with those | :18:51. | :18:57. | |
who occupy the city. The Iranians would love to kill everybody in | :18:58. | :19:04. | |
Aleppo, because that is what is satisfying them. Can I just ask | :19:05. | :19:13. | |
about that? You said Iranians are trying to kill everyone in eastern | :19:14. | :19:20. | |
Aleppo to satisfy them? Yes. That is what they want. I just heard some | :19:21. | :19:29. | |
more shelling. Yes, it has continued for the last three hours. I read | :19:30. | :19:40. | |
that the Russians said that the rebels resumed attacks and the | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
regime will attack the city, and that is what has happened. But the | :19:46. | :19:53. | |
regime starts hitting these neighbourhoods, to start attacking | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
again this besieged city, maybe to put pressure on the Syrian friends | :19:59. | :20:09. | |
to evacuate the people from the city without any conditions, and the | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
Iranians want to put in another condition, about evacuation of a | :20:14. | :20:27. | |
village. The same as what will happen to Aleppo city. Before we | :20:28. | :20:34. | |
continue our conversation, do you want to leave us, do you want to | :20:35. | :20:37. | |
move somewhere, do you want to continue talking? We are under a | :20:38. | :20:49. | |
real genocide. But because of our last messages and our low voice, we | :20:50. | :21:00. | |
shout, for the world to stand for this. But we know they will keep | :21:01. | :21:07. | |
silent. If the Iranians and Russians killed us, they will not care about | :21:08. | :21:20. | |
that. Everything will be good. That is what we think about. We know that | :21:21. | :21:28. | |
we should survive, because there is nothing important to die for. We can | :21:29. | :21:44. | |
sacrifice ourselves for freedom and democracy. It looks like nobody | :21:45. | :21:53. | |
cares about our freedom and our democracy. They care about | :21:54. | :22:02. | |
dictatorships and who can take power. I just want to check whether | :22:03. | :22:10. | |
you feel OK continuing to talk to us now with the shelling that we can | :22:11. | :22:15. | |
hear in the background. It is not a problem. We to that. -- we are used | :22:16. | :22:25. | |
to that. We have seen reports in people in the east of Aleppo, | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
civilians, opposition activists, saying there have been dead bodies | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
piling up in the streets, that there have been executions. Have you seen | :22:36. | :22:46. | |
that? I did not see that. But one of my friends, his relative was killed | :22:47. | :22:56. | |
and executed when they were captured by the Assad regime. If we suppose | :22:57. | :23:04. | |
is has not happened, we know what the Assad regime did since the | :23:05. | :23:11. | |
uprising began, 100,000 people executed. My friend, a doctor, was | :23:12. | :23:22. | |
executed in the air force security branch, they burned him alive in | :23:23. | :23:27. | |
2012. All of the world knows about that, this crime. | :23:28. | :23:36. | |
If you suppose it has not happened, I am sure it has happened. It would | :23:37. | :23:47. | |
not be unusual for the Assad gang and his allies. I will bring in some | :23:48. | :23:53. | |
more people who have got pertinent things to say about what is going on | :23:54. | :23:58. | |
in eastern Aleppo. If you need to leave us, we completely understand. | :23:59. | :24:05. | |
If you can take -- stay, we would be grateful, but I will leave it up to | :24:06. | :24:07. | |
you. We can speak now to Hamish Gordon | :24:08. | :24:08. | |
from the charity Doctors Under Fire, and Crispin Blunt, who's | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
a Conservative MP and the chair of the Foreign Affairs | :24:12. | :24:16. | |
Select Committee. You voted against intervention in | :24:17. | :24:35. | |
Syria in 2013 but voted for it in 2015. It is being reported by a P, | :24:36. | :24:42. | |
those buses that were supposed to take civilians, children and rebel | :24:43. | :24:45. | |
fighters out of Aleppo, Associated Press said they have returned to | :24:46. | :24:48. | |
their depots without anybody on board. We were speaking to our | :24:49. | :24:54. | |
people in East Aleppo earlier this morning. They try to get out, but | :24:55. | :25:00. | |
the Iranians militias were preventing it. What we have heard | :25:01. | :25:09. | |
coming out of East Aleppo is very concerning. If the Iranians intent | :25:10. | :25:15. | |
to murder everybody there, that is absolutely shocking. We were | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
hopeful, speaking to people only half an hour ago, that the buses and | :25:20. | :25:26. | |
ambulances... We have ambulances available to take injured out, we | :25:27. | :25:32. | |
were hopeful they would be back later, so they were hopeful 30 | :25:33. | :25:35. | |
minutes ago. The general ceasefire appears to be in place but it | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
appears that the Iranians militias are still fighting, and creating | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
what we have heard on the ground at the moment. Hence the sound of | :25:45. | :25:52. | |
shelling? That would appear to be the case. Overnight it has been | :25:53. | :25:56. | |
relatively quiet, we have not seen any end attacks on the regime ought | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
from... Apparently Russia has not been attacking for some time. The | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
children we have had prepared and ready to go, a plan we have worked | :26:08. | :26:13. | |
on for several weeks, we were very hopeful last night that by now they | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
would be out and in the main hospital in Italy. It is very | :26:19. | :26:22. | |
disappointing that is not happening, although people were upbeat half an | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
hour ago that this might happen again later or tomorrow morning. But | :26:27. | :26:31. | |
it appears it is the Iranians who are the block. Let's hope, after the | :26:32. | :26:36. | |
debate yesterday, where everybody agreed that hitherto we have been | :26:37. | :26:41. | |
pretty woeful in our activities in Syria, that people are now | :26:42. | :26:47. | |
galvanised. I would hope the Prime Minister and Foreign Secretary are | :26:48. | :26:51. | |
on the phone to the Iranians the moment to try and assert influence | :26:52. | :26:55. | |
on them. Because I agree with George Osborne and Andrew Mitchell, what | :26:56. | :27:01. | |
Britain is brilliant at is diplomacy, and we have not flexed | :27:02. | :27:03. | |
that muscle enough recently, and we should be now. Just to explain to | :27:04. | :27:10. | |
people who are wanting to learn more about this situation, the Iranians | :27:11. | :27:13. | |
militias are there fighting alongside resident Assad's troops. | :27:14. | :27:20. | |
Correct. Assad has a variety of different allies, Hezbollah and also | :27:21. | :27:25. | |
the Iranians militias, who are fighting with him. They are even | :27:26. | :27:31. | |
less controlled than the Syrian Army. We have heard of the | :27:32. | :27:35. | |
executions yesterday, our people on the ground have confirmed that has | :27:36. | :27:40. | |
been happening, but 282 people, women and children, shot in the | :27:41. | :27:49. | |
open. -- up to 82 people. I could not say hand on heart that they had | :27:50. | :27:53. | |
witnessed it, but they say they have seen it happen, and there are people | :27:54. | :27:57. | |
in the streets who have been summary executed and murdered by these | :27:58. | :28:04. | |
militias. You're 40 Syrian staff, when was the last time you heard | :28:05. | :28:08. | |
from them, and what have they told you? Thankfully I have just spoken | :28:09. | :28:14. | |
to them via what's up minutes ago. This confirms they are still alive. | :28:15. | :28:22. | |
They are trapped inside East Aleppo. Much of what we are hearing tonight | :28:23. | :28:28. | |
about the continued shelling of the city, there is a loss of faith both | :28:29. | :28:33. | |
from our staff and from the wider civilian community about the | :28:34. | :28:38. | |
international ability, desire or interest to stop this ongoing | :28:39. | :28:41. | |
conflict, which is killing hundreds of thousands and currently trapping | :28:42. | :28:46. | |
them in what can only be described as hell on earth. Why would the | :28:47. | :28:53. | |
Iranians militias want to kill all of those civilians and opposition | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
activists and rebel fighters as they try to leave eastern Aleppo? I don't | :29:00. | :29:06. | |
know. What do we think? They are working alongside Assad, is it doing | :29:07. | :29:07. | |
his dirty work? I don't know. Is it a parallel of the kind of | :29:08. | :29:35. | |
motivation that is infusing the Islamist extremists who make up some | :29:36. | :29:39. | |
of the forces who are fighting against the Assad regime, as well as | :29:40. | :29:44. | |
the rest of civilisation? You will be to get a proper answer to your | :29:45. | :29:47. | |
question, we need to understand in more detail the nature. Do you as a | :29:48. | :29:54. | |
British MP believed you share some responsibility for what has happened | :29:55. | :29:59. | |
in eastern Aleppo? The international community has failed. Including | :30:00. | :30:07. | |
British politicians? So far as we hold the Government to account. I | :30:08. | :30:11. | |
was not part of the Government in 2011, I was not responsible for | :30:12. | :30:17. | |
foreign policy. But collectively, we have some degree of responsibility | :30:18. | :30:22. | |
for the signals sent out in 2011, which implied support to those | :30:23. | :30:28. | |
people on the back of the Arab Spring and rose against Assad as | :30:29. | :30:31. | |
another Arab dictator who would fall in the wake of Arab Spring. I | :30:32. | :30:35. | |
believe they made some shins about the scale of the help they would get | :30:36. | :30:40. | |
from the West. We raised their expectations. That is a reasonable | :30:41. | :30:46. | |
point to make. We were not prepared to follow through with giving them | :30:47. | :30:53. | |
lethal support. The regime often involved in fighting for its | :30:54. | :30:56. | |
existence against the various threats, and they fought back. With | :30:57. | :31:05. | |
the two understand the divided nature of Syrian society, people | :31:06. | :31:11. | |
were looking to the regime for protection from their perceived | :31:12. | :31:14. | |
threat from Islamist extremism. You then have the recipe and the result | :31:15. | :31:17. | |
of this appalling Civil War. Irony is not the right word, but as | :31:18. | :31:30. | |
we are talking about this and the vote in the British Parliament in | :31:31. | :31:34. | |
2013 not to authorise the use of military force against Syria, after | :31:35. | :31:39. | |
President Assad's alleged use of chemical weapons on his own | :31:40. | :31:42. | |
peoplement there are shells going off, four years later, behind us, as | :31:43. | :31:49. | |
our guest talks to us on Skype. I mean, do you regret the way you | :31:50. | :31:53. | |
voted back then? I don't regret the way I voted back then because we | :31:54. | :31:58. | |
were being asked around a specific objective to get rid of President | :31:59. | :32:04. | |
Assad's chemical weapons. The means we were being asked to authorise | :32:05. | :32:09. | |
would not have achieved the objective. In the end the objective | :32:10. | :32:16. | |
was achieved with the Russians disarming their Syrian ally. Hamish | :32:17. | :32:25. | |
Gordon is sitting alongside you... I know what this intervention is going | :32:26. | :32:30. | |
to be... Let him speak for himself. I was collecting evidence of the use | :32:31. | :32:35. | |
of chemical weapons and I had just come out of Syria when the mass | :32:36. | :32:39. | |
attack, the sarin attack on 21st August... What did you think of the | :32:40. | :32:44. | |
vote back then and how it... I was shocked. I was a veteran of both | :32:45. | :32:51. | |
Gulf wars and a veteran in the Army. People were saying we don't want to | :32:52. | :32:56. | |
repeat 2003, it was nothing like 2003. What is the link between that | :32:57. | :33:03. | |
vote in 2003 and what we are seeing in Aleppo now One of the interesting | :33:04. | :33:11. | |
facts, the regime have dropped chemical weapons into Aleppo, | :33:12. | :33:15. | |
chlorine that forced the children out of the cellaers, we have seen a | :33:16. | :33:24. | |
sarin attack two days ago. That was supposed to have been removed in | :33:25. | :33:29. | |
2013 and when that red line was crossed and we collectively, I as | :33:30. | :33:33. | |
the British Government, or the British people tell their | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
politicians how to vote, so we're all responsible, but when you look | :33:38. | :33:42. | |
at that, and we didn't act then, chemical weapons are now used, you | :33:43. | :33:47. | |
know, the great taboo are used all over the world. In Mosul Islamic | :33:48. | :33:50. | |
State are using them at the moment, and by not being firm, they are | :33:51. | :33:54. | |
common place and we have seen the news and I firmly believe and, you | :33:55. | :34:01. | |
know, I hear Cripin on this, we would be in a better position had we | :34:02. | :34:07. | |
intervened asm. We have got Iranian militias who are threatening to kill | :34:08. | :34:10. | |
everybody in Aleppo. What are we doing? What are we doing to prevent | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
that? What are we doing Crispin blunt? The responsibility sits with | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
Russia. It is Russia... And what are we doing? Well, we have to hold | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
Russia to account and what is different about war these days, we | :34:25. | :34:27. | |
are seeing the end of a siege of the it is almost medieval of the | :34:28. | :34:30. | |
consequences of what we're seeing. What is different today is a future | :34:31. | :34:35. | |
accountability. Here we are with this situation being able to talk to | :34:36. | :34:43. | |
someone in a studio in London and there is the end of a siege in | :34:44. | :34:48. | |
Aleppo. There is more accountability, there will be | :34:49. | :34:52. | |
pictures and electronic record... It don't know that's any consolation to | :34:53. | :34:57. | |
anyone who has lost kids, mothers, brothers... Of course, it isn't. All | :34:58. | :35:02. | |
of that influences future acts as well... Does it? After the genocide | :35:03. | :35:10. | |
in Rwanda? The Russia is the P5 power that has chosen to put itself | :35:11. | :35:15. | |
in this position, their leaders take up a degree of responsibility. Of | :35:16. | :35:19. | |
course, it is right now incredibly difficult to hold them to account | :35:20. | :35:24. | |
now, but we are creating a record now of what's happened, but this | :35:25. | :35:31. | |
story is as almost as old as human history of our failure as humanity | :35:32. | :35:36. | |
and the way we behave towards each other and we are hopefully making | :35:37. | :35:42. | |
some progress with international institutions talking over decades in | :35:43. | :35:46. | |
the post Second World War settlement to do this better. The challenge to | :35:47. | :35:50. | |
our system is the failure of the international community to address | :35:51. | :35:54. | |
this collectively. I think we have lost the Skype line. This is being | :35:55. | :36:01. | |
reported by AFP, a legal advisor to Syrian opposition factions says that | :36:02. | :36:04. | |
an evacuation deal for Aleppo is being held up by Iranian fighters | :36:05. | :36:08. | |
who have renewed shelling of the rebel part of the city which is | :36:09. | :36:14. | |
confirmation, I think, of what Monta was telling us anyway. Sorry, Mike, | :36:15. | :36:20. | |
did you want to say something there? Well, I think, the people have | :36:21. | :36:27. | |
raised good points about future accountability. What civilians and | :36:28. | :36:33. | |
the wider Syrian context, they no longer want words, they want some | :36:34. | :36:36. | |
action that actually means that they are safer and when they are safe, | :36:37. | :36:39. | |
that they receive the humanitarian assistance that they feel they | :36:40. | :36:44. | |
rightly deserve. So this loss of faith goes back to events such as | :36:45. | :36:49. | |
the bombing, the chemical weapon attacks outside of Damascus in 2013. | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
I was in fact in Syria at that time in the east of the Kurds and west | :36:55. | :37:01. | |
and the community back then was saying the red line has been | :37:02. | :37:07. | |
crossed. Where is the action and we are sitting three years later and | :37:08. | :37:12. | |
the atrocities of Aleppo city are continuing, but like a chemical | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
weapon attack in terms of political sensitivity and not a single action | :37:17. | :37:18. | |
is happening to protect these people. OK. This is coming in from | :37:19. | :37:26. | |
one of President Putin's spokesmen. This is about UN accusations of | :37:27. | :37:29. | |
forces allied to the Syrian Government carrying out excuses of | :37:30. | :37:34. | |
civilians in Aleppo. A spokesman for President Putin said they should | :37:35. | :37:37. | |
have watched the material from TV journalist on the ground which shows | :37:38. | :37:41. | |
the local population with joy and emotion welcomed the liberation of | :37:42. | :37:44. | |
the eastern part of the city from terrorists. This is in stark | :37:45. | :37:47. | |
contrast to such accusations and it is not correct the fact they, ie, | :37:48. | :37:53. | |
the UN don't have a position on the atrocities carried out by the | :37:54. | :37:56. | |
terrorists. Thank you very much for coming on the programme. Thank you | :37:57. | :38:01. | |
Mike talking to us in New Zealand. Thank you very much. | :38:02. | :38:11. | |
Unemployment has fallen in the three months to October aid cording to | :38:12. | :38:17. | |
official figures. Unemployment has fallen again, by 16,000 to 1.62 | :38:18. | :38:21. | |
million in the three months to October. Average earnings increased | :38:22. | :38:27. | |
by 2.5% in the year to October. 0.1% up on the previous month. | :38:28. | :38:32. | |
Still to come: A 20-year-old autistic British man who tried | :38:33. | :38:37. | |
to grab a gun at a Donald Trump rally has been given a one year | :38:38. | :38:40. | |
Riot Club and Great Expectations actor Douglas Booth | :38:41. | :38:51. | |
He's been to Iraq to visit Syrian refugees there. | :38:52. | :38:58. | |
Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
Shelling has resumed in the Syrian city of Aleppo, | :39:04. | :39:07. | |
a day after a ceasefire was agreed between the government | :39:08. | :39:09. | |
It was clearly audible during an interview on this programme a short | :39:10. | :39:15. | |
time ago. The evacuation of wounded civilians | :39:16. | :39:17. | |
and up to 1,500 fighters from Aleppo has been delayed | :39:18. | :39:19. | |
because of new demands Buses which were meant to take | :39:20. | :39:27. | |
rebels and civilians out of Aleppo have returned empty to their depots. | :39:28. | :39:32. | |
The former football coach Barry Bennell is due to appear | :39:33. | :39:35. | |
at Crewe Magistrates' Court this morning, via video-link. | :39:36. | :39:37. | |
The ex-Crewe Alexandra youth coach, who is 62, has been charged | :39:38. | :39:39. | |
with eight offences of sexual assault against a boy | :39:40. | :39:41. | |
Train bosses and unions will start formal talks this morning | :39:42. | :39:46. | |
in an effort to resolve the Southern Rail dispute. | :39:47. | :39:50. | |
The company has advised its 300,000 daily passengers not to travel | :39:51. | :39:53. | |
after ASLEF and RMT members walked out yesterday. | :39:54. | :39:56. | |
Southern and the unions have agreed to meet | :39:57. | :39:58. | |
The UK ranks 54th in the world for 4G coverage, behind Romania, | :39:59. | :40:09. | |
Albania and Peru with many mobile users still struggling | :40:10. | :40:11. | |
The National Infrastructure Commission says the government must | :40:12. | :40:14. | |
make sure the country is ready for the next generation | :40:15. | :40:17. | |
of technology, 5G or risk languishing in what it calls | :40:18. | :40:19. | |
Eddie says, "No 4G outside of Telford in a rural village. Signal | :40:20. | :40:37. | |
poor from all the major networks unless we stand outside." It could | :40:38. | :40:38. | |
be worse. Arsenal missed the chance to go top | :40:39. | :40:41. | |
of the Premier League last night. Celtic are now 11 | :40:42. | :40:46. | |
points clear at the top of the Scottish Premiership | :40:47. | :40:54. | |
after a 1-0 win over Hamilton. A new host city for the bobsleigh | :40:55. | :40:57. | |
and skeleton world championships will be announced in | :40:58. | :40:59. | |
the next few days. That's after the sport's governing | :41:00. | :41:03. | |
body said it wouldn't be "prudent" to hold the event in Russia | :41:04. | :41:05. | |
in February, following last week's Formula One World Champion Nico | :41:06. | :41:08. | |
Rosberg says he hopes he might become friends | :41:09. | :41:17. | |
with Lewis Hamilton again. The former Mercedes team-mates had | :41:18. | :41:23. | |
an intense rivalry on track, but Rosberg says the pair have had | :41:24. | :41:25. | |
kind words since he won the title. The German announced his retirement | :41:26. | :41:29. | |
from the sport ten days ago. Dylan Hartley will find out today | :41:30. | :41:31. | |
if he'll be available to captain He will appear in front | :41:32. | :41:34. | |
of an independent panel who'll decide the length of ban he'll | :41:35. | :41:42. | |
receive after being sent off for the third time in his career | :41:43. | :41:44. | |
in Northampton's defeat I will have a full bulletin for you | :41:45. | :41:47. | |
at 10am. the latest unemployment | :41:48. | :41:59. | |
figures are just out. They are a lagging indicator, they | :42:00. | :42:09. | |
are looking at what happened before. If you compare it to the same time | :42:10. | :42:14. | |
last year, the unemployment rate then was 5.2%. Over the year, it is | :42:15. | :42:18. | |
down. Interesting if you devil into the numbers it tells us unemployment | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
fell by 16,000, so the number of people out of work standing at 1.62 | :42:23. | :42:28. | |
million people. But and this is the bit I always talk to you is | :42:29. | :42:32. | |
earnings. How much on average are wages going up and whether it is | :42:33. | :42:36. | |
rising quickly? Well, it is not to be frank because it is going up by | :42:37. | :42:41. | |
2.5%. 2.5% which you think is all right, but inflation is starting to | :42:42. | :42:44. | |
rise and that's the big thing. So prices in the shops starting to rise | :42:45. | :42:48. | |
and we've been told that that is going to pick up pace even more in | :42:49. | :42:51. | |
the New Year because we start to get all that Brexit effect because the | :42:52. | :42:55. | |
value of the pound has fallen. It means stuff that we import from | :42:56. | :43:00. | |
overseas goes up in price. So yesterday, the inflation figures | :43:01. | :43:04. | |
coming in at 1.2%, all the expectation is that next year it | :43:05. | :43:06. | |
will start rising more. So the problem is if our wages going up | :43:07. | :43:10. | |
even more the gap between what we're paying out in the shops and what | :43:11. | :43:14. | |
we're earning starts to get narrower and narrower and it means we will | :43:15. | :43:17. | |
have less money in our pocket. OK, thank you very much. Thank you, | :43:18. | :43:24. | |
Ben. Ben Thompson reporting. Some tweets on Aleppo. A viewer | :43:25. | :43:29. | |
says, "Massive respect for your coverage on Aleppo and thank you for | :43:30. | :43:36. | |
caring." Some e-mails, "Yes, of course, Putin, Assad and Putin are | :43:37. | :43:40. | |
war criminals and listening to the tweets on your programme, it is | :43:41. | :43:44. | |
clear our feeble Government needs to act, the Russian ambassador should | :43:45. | :43:50. | |
be expelled from the UK and the Russian Embassy closed. : " Joel | :43:51. | :43:56. | |
says it is not that people don't care about events in Aleppo, it is a | :43:57. | :44:01. | |
complicated situation that the media haven't explained well." Ian says, | :44:02. | :44:06. | |
"The lack of action by the UK, etcetera is utterly despicable. | :44:07. | :44:09. | |
People in power and with influence should be ashamed." | :44:10. | :44:15. | |
A British man who tried to assasinate Donald Trump has been | :44:16. | :44:18. | |
sentenced to 12 months and one day in a court in Las Vegas. | :44:19. | :44:27. | |
20-year-old Michael Sandford, who is autistic, attempted to snatch | :44:28. | :44:29. | |
a policeman's gun at rally for the then Republican | :44:30. | :44:31. | |
We've spoken regularly to Michael Sanford's mother, | :44:32. | :44:39. | |
Lynne, on this programme, who has told us she worries | :44:40. | :44:41. | |
about her son's fragile state of mental health. | :44:42. | :44:47. | |
Can you hear me OK? I can, thank you. How has Michael reacted to the | :44:48. | :44:58. | |
sentence? He has enormously relieved. He is | :44:59. | :45:03. | |
grateful the judge was compassionate to take all his circumstances into | :45:04. | :45:05. | |
consideration and instead of looking at a sentence of years, you know, he | :45:06. | :45:10. | |
is only looking at months to do. Yeah, fantastic news for him. | :45:11. | :45:16. | |
So he could be deported to the UK in how many months? He would take off | :45:17. | :45:24. | |
time served, six months, and he would get two months off for good | :45:25. | :45:27. | |
behaviour, said he could be back in four months. You seem really up | :45:28. | :45:32. | |
eight, the most up and I have seen you for a long time. None of us knew | :45:33. | :45:38. | |
what to expect, we were looking at potentially 30 years initially, so I | :45:39. | :45:43. | |
am so glad that we could get such good legal help and medical help | :45:44. | :45:48. | |
from the professionals and have so much support behind us, it has been | :45:49. | :45:55. | |
so gratifying and humbling, and we would not be where we are today | :45:56. | :45:58. | |
without it. I am really happy. The court heard your son failed to pull | :45:59. | :46:04. | |
the gun from an officer's holster at this rally. The judge described the | :46:05. | :46:11. | |
incident as a crazy stunt, and he did really appear to be synthetic to | :46:12. | :46:16. | |
Michael. The judge was fantastic. He was a very reasonable and logical | :46:17. | :46:22. | |
man, he could see that Michael was not a bad person, that he had just | :46:23. | :46:27. | |
got lost along the way, overrun by mental health issues, and he did a | :46:28. | :46:33. | |
very bad thing in a weak moment. He can get past this and given a second | :46:34. | :46:40. | |
chance. The judge said, I don't see you as evil or a sociopath, and | :46:41. | :46:44. | |
wished your son good luck as he rose to leave the court room. He did. He | :46:45. | :46:49. | |
also questioned, had Michael succeeded in pulling the gun, he | :46:50. | :46:55. | |
would not have stood a chance, he would not have been able to wrestle | :46:56. | :47:00. | |
with police officers, it was just a very crazy moment, as the judge | :47:01. | :47:06. | |
said. The last time we spoke, you explained why it was that Michael | :47:07. | :47:10. | |
was in the US, you had not been able to stop him going there or | :47:11. | :47:16. | |
travelling around. If he is put back here in four months, how will you | :47:17. | :47:18. | |
make sure that does not happen again? He has told me he never | :47:19. | :47:23. | |
intends to go anywhere again. This has been the shock of a lifetime for | :47:24. | :47:28. | |
him. He said, I wish I had listened to do, I wish I had never gone. He | :47:29. | :47:35. | |
cannot wait to be back home to the safety and comfort of his own | :47:36. | :47:38. | |
country. What does Michael say about the incident now? How does he | :47:39. | :47:43. | |
reflect on what he tried to do? He does not remember the incident, he | :47:44. | :47:48. | |
said it is just a blur. When he was put on medication and he realised | :47:49. | :47:51. | |
what he had done and the gravity of it, he was overcome by remorse. He | :47:52. | :47:58. | |
was disgusted with himself, what he had attempted to do, he has never | :47:59. | :48:03. | |
tried to hurt anybody in his life, so this was a massive wake-up call | :48:04. | :48:08. | |
for him. Are you staying there for Christmas or coming back to the UK? | :48:09. | :48:11. | |
I shall be back the day after tomorrow. Thank you for talking to | :48:12. | :48:17. | |
as again, we appreciate your time. Clearly very relieved, her son | :48:18. | :48:23. | |
Michael jailed for a year and a day, although he could be back home in | :48:24. | :48:27. | |
four months because of time he has already spent in custody. | :48:28. | :48:32. | |
Coming up, we'll talk to the union behind the strikes on Southern Rail, | :48:33. | :48:35. | |
and to someone whose livelihood is threatened by the disruption. | :48:36. | :48:41. | |
While the world's attention is finally on the city of Aleppo | :48:42. | :48:43. | |
in Syria, albeit too late, the British actor Douglas Booth, | :48:44. | :48:47. | |
who was in Great Expectations and The Riot Club, has just returned | :48:48. | :48:50. | |
from a trip to Iraq, where he's been meeting refugees | :48:51. | :48:52. | |
The 24-year-old wants to challenge the negative stereotypes | :48:53. | :48:58. | |
Who did you meet and what did you see? | :48:59. | :49:16. | |
I flew to northern Iraq, to start with I met Syrian refugees who had | :49:17. | :49:24. | |
fled to Iraq who were living in an urban setting, and often you think | :49:25. | :49:30. | |
of refugees in tented camps, I was meeting them trying to life in local | :49:31. | :49:35. | |
communities, and then I met internally displaced Iraqis in Iraq | :49:36. | :49:38. | |
had fled from Mo Soul, the second biggest city in Iraq. That was | :49:39. | :49:44. | |
interesting, because you have people who had been living under Islamic | :49:45. | :49:49. | |
State rules for two years, so I met people who had either just been | :49:50. | :49:53. | |
liberated or had escaped hours before or a couple of days before. I | :49:54. | :49:57. | |
heard their stories about life under Islamic rule. It was quite shocking, | :49:58. | :50:06. | |
I was sitting down with young people like me, and to hear them talk about | :50:07. | :50:13. | |
life, it sounded normal before, the football clubs they love to support, | :50:14. | :50:20. | |
Real Madrid, but then have people dictating what they wore, the way | :50:21. | :50:23. | |
they grew their beard, they could not watch TV, there was no music, so | :50:24. | :50:28. | |
to talk to a young person like me about that was interesting, they had | :50:29. | :50:32. | |
to cut their symbols of their football shirts because they could | :50:33. | :50:34. | |
not show any. That was very interesting. The gradual oppression? | :50:35. | :50:41. | |
Yes, and they moved people from surrounding villages to the city | :50:42. | :50:47. | |
centre, so they could control them. Families were split up, friendship | :50:48. | :50:52. | |
groups, so life became arduous. All of the women were pulled out of | :50:53. | :50:59. | |
school. Lots of parents decided to take their young sons out of school | :51:00. | :51:02. | |
because they were scared of bracket -- radicalisation. They were | :51:03. | :51:12. | |
learning about guns. There was hard propaganda and radicalism happening | :51:13. | :51:16. | |
in schools. Fathers said they followed their sons around like a | :51:17. | :51:20. | |
shadow, they would have to sit them down every evening over the kitchen | :51:21. | :51:25. | |
table and say, this is not true. It was a struggle. Meeting young girls, | :51:26. | :51:35. | |
18 and 21, 22, who had been science students, hoping to work in | :51:36. | :51:38. | |
laboratories and Bush signed forward, they had such a bright | :51:39. | :51:44. | |
future, and to hear their stories, being pulled out of education, | :51:45. | :51:47. | |
terrified to leave the house, even if they left the house just showing | :51:48. | :51:51. | |
their eyes they would be reprimanded. Shocking. For me, to | :51:52. | :51:58. | |
see these people who were just like us, ordinary families going through | :51:59. | :52:02. | |
extraordinary circumstances, it was incredible. | :52:03. | :52:05. | |
Let's take a look at you at the camp, meeting some | :52:06. | :52:07. | |
Tell him something so he can remember you. | :52:08. | :52:46. | |
Tell us about these kids. They are Iraqi kids who had just been | :52:47. | :53:01. | |
liberated from Mosul. A really beautiful family. There was a sense | :53:02. | :53:09. | |
of jubilation, because a lot of them could not run around and play in the | :53:10. | :53:14. | |
street, so for the first time they could run around, having | :53:15. | :53:17. | |
conversations with me, and they were showing us around, and young guys | :53:18. | :53:22. | |
were being able to play football. I spoke to a young man who had had | :53:23. | :53:28. | |
this act of defiance, he had got married with a young girl from his | :53:29. | :53:33. | |
village, no music was allowed, but they've rolled down the blackout | :53:34. | :53:38. | |
blinds, he dead to trim his beard, they had a party, and he said it was | :53:39. | :53:48. | |
beautiful that she did not -- he did not know where his wife was, because | :53:49. | :53:51. | |
she was off chatting with friends. You will have seen events in Aleppo, | :53:52. | :53:58. | |
over the last few years. How do you react to some of the reports we are | :53:59. | :54:01. | |
getting from their? It is devastating. There have been | :54:02. | :54:06. | |
atrocities happening there for years. As the international | :54:07. | :54:12. | |
community, we have let civilians down. I have not been there. I am | :54:13. | :54:20. | |
not as educated on that as I am with this situation, but the UN refugee | :54:21. | :54:23. | |
agency are standing by with aid, shelter and protection for civilians | :54:24. | :54:28. | |
there who desperately needed. They have been calling for years to give | :54:29. | :54:37. | |
aid and shelter, but they can't, it has fallen on deaf ears. I heard | :54:38. | :54:42. | |
there had been a ceasefire that has not held. I hope that the | :54:43. | :54:48. | |
international community continues to put pressure on whoever is involved, | :54:49. | :54:55. | |
just to let the aid in and let the civilians get the protection they | :54:56. | :55:00. | |
deserve. You have the power of celebrity, the power to shine a | :55:01. | :55:04. | |
light. You also know that when you make these trips and you meet these | :55:05. | :55:09. | |
people in desperate situations, and then you come back to your normal | :55:10. | :55:13. | |
life, you put yourself out there for criticism. How do you respond? I try | :55:14. | :55:19. | |
not to think about criticism. People can criticise me for trying to do a | :55:20. | :55:24. | |
good thing. I am fortunate to have a platform. I try and use it to meet | :55:25. | :55:35. | |
people in Iraq or Lesbos who don't have a voice. I feel it is my | :55:36. | :55:40. | |
response will do, to give them a voice, as much as I can do, and to | :55:41. | :55:44. | |
raise awareness amongst people my own age, and try and spread | :55:45. | :55:50. | |
awareness about the issues, try to start a conversation. I have great | :55:51. | :55:58. | |
hope for my generation, great hope that we want to do the right thing, | :55:59. | :56:01. | |
and we just need to get a conversation started. | :56:02. | :56:06. | |
And you're staying around, Douglas, for a Facebook Live for this | :56:07. | :56:09. | |
You can send your questions via the BBC News Facebook page. | :56:10. | :56:17. | |
David Beckham has been an ambassador for the United Nations | :56:18. | :56:22. | |
And now he's using his famous tattoos in a new campaign to end | :56:23. | :56:26. | |
violence against children across the world. | :56:27. | :56:30. | |
Mixed fortunes today. For England and Wales, a lot of dry weather to | :56:31. | :56:45. | |
come. We should get more sunshine than in recent days stop but it will | :56:46. | :56:50. | |
not be dry everywhere, we will see cloud and rain working into Northern | :56:51. | :56:56. | |
Ireland and Scotland. We had fog to start the day in Windsor, and across | :56:57. | :57:01. | |
the North and South Downs and Salisbury Plain. Poor visibility. | :57:02. | :57:07. | |
Most of it has cleared. Across Wales, we had cloud breaking up, | :57:08. | :57:11. | |
with sunny spells. This picture was taken near to Port Talbot. They were | :57:12. | :57:17. | |
the front is snaking its way up towards the UK. It is not exactly | :57:18. | :57:24. | |
straight. It will snake along the Irish Sea area, coming inland across | :57:25. | :57:30. | |
Northern Ireland, into western Scotland, giving a real soaking to | :57:31. | :57:36. | |
the Isle of Man. For England and Wales, the early-morning murkiness | :57:37. | :57:38. | |
will break up, and we will see decent sunshine coming through. Over | :57:39. | :57:42. | |
the sunshine is late to reach the intention and North Yorkshire. As we | :57:43. | :57:49. | |
go through the afternoon in Scotland, the rain will come more | :57:50. | :57:53. | |
widespread and a lot heavier. A cloudy day in the Western Isles | :57:54. | :57:57. | |
competitor with yesterday. But the south-east of Scotland may escape | :57:58. | :57:59. | |
with dry weather around the Scottish Borders. In Northern Ireland, the | :58:00. | :58:04. | |
rain will be reluctant to move away from Antrim and down. Some 50 pulses | :58:05. | :58:11. | |
of rain coming and going. England and are mild, with southerly | :58:12. | :58:14. | |
breezes, with more sunshine than there has been over the last few | :58:15. | :58:18. | |
days. Tonight, the weather front will continue to push East, whilst | :58:19. | :58:24. | |
weakening. We will be left with an area of cloud, bits and pieces of | :58:25. | :58:28. | |
light rain and drizzle. It will turn milky over the hills. For many, it | :58:29. | :58:37. | |
will be on the mild side. The big story at the moment, we have the | :58:38. | :58:42. | |
high-pressure in Europe, the weather front zooming across the Atlantic, | :58:43. | :58:47. | |
hitting that high-pressure, and dying as they move across the UK. We | :58:48. | :58:51. | |
have got that again for tomorrow's forecast. We start cloudy with | :58:52. | :58:56. | |
dampness. The next weather front comes in across Northern Ireland. It | :58:57. | :59:01. | |
will bring another spell of rain. Some of the rain could be heavy. | :59:02. | :59:11. | |
We will have the best of any sunshine in Scotland. Looking at the | :59:12. | :59:18. | |
forecast through Friday and into the weekend, we are expecting a lot of | :59:19. | :59:21. | |
dry weather. Not a great deal of rain. We will sue the best of the | :59:22. | :59:26. | |
sunshine on Saturday, especially northern England Northern Ireland | :59:27. | :59:28. | |
and into Scotland. Through Sunday, the cloud again | :59:29. | :59:44. | |
tends to build in. A lot of dry weather over the next few days, | :59:45. | :59:47. | |
especially as we get to the weekend. But sunshine might be in short | :59:48. | :59:49. | |
supply. The Syrian Army | :59:50. | :59:55. | |
has started shelling the city of Aleppo again despite a deal | :59:56. | :00:06. | |
to evacuate opposition We spoke to one resident | :00:07. | :00:08. | |
there who told us the bombing It has continued for | :00:09. | :00:13. | |
about three hours. The regime started | :00:14. | :00:26. | |
shelling and hitting this neighbourhood to start attacking | :00:27. | :00:28. | |
again this besieged city. More travel misery | :00:29. | :00:35. | |
for rail passengers. There are no trains on any route | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
on Southern's network for a second day as train drivers | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
continue their strike We will talk to the leader of the | :00:42. | :00:43. | |
RMT union. And if you've had a challenging | :00:44. | :00:52. | |
year, how do you face 2017 Dr Steve Peters is a top | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
psychiatrist who has coached our national sportsmen and women | :00:56. | :00:59. | |
to Olympic success. He reckons he can do | :01:00. | :01:04. | |
the same for us. Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom | :01:05. | :01:09. | |
with a summary of today's news. Shelling has resumed | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
in the Syrian city of Aleppo, a day after a ceasefire was agreed | :01:13. | :01:17. | |
between the government The evacuation of civilians and | :01:18. | :01:20. | |
fighters have been delayed. Buses, which were meant to take | :01:21. | :01:30. | |
rebels and civilians out of Aleppo, The sound of shelling could be heard | :01:31. | :01:33. | |
on this programme a short time ago. Yes, it has continued | :01:34. | :01:41. | |
for about three hours It says that the rebels resumed | :01:42. | :01:48. | |
the attacks and the regime will attack the city and that's | :01:49. | :01:57. | |
what is happening. The former football coach | :01:58. | :02:02. | |
Barry Bennell is due to appear at Crewe Magistrates' Court this | :02:03. | :02:06. | |
morning via video-link. The ex-Crewe Alexandra youth coach, | :02:07. | :02:08. | |
who is 62, has been charged with eight offences of sexual | :02:09. | :02:11. | |
assault against a boy Train bosses and unions | :02:12. | :02:13. | |
are starting talks this morning in an effort to resolve | :02:14. | :02:19. | |
the Southern Rail dispute. The company has advised its 300,000 | :02:20. | :02:22. | |
daily passengers not to travel, after ASLEF and RMT members | :02:23. | :02:24. | |
walked out yesterday. Southern and the unions are meeting | :02:25. | :02:27. | |
at the conciliation service ACAS. State schools in England | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
will have to find ?3 billion in savings by 2020, according | :02:33. | :02:35. | |
to the public spending watchdog. The National Audit office says | :02:36. | :02:38. | |
schools are not ready for the "scale The warning comes as ministers | :02:39. | :02:41. | |
are expected to announce a new education | :02:42. | :02:46. | |
funding formula today. The UK ranks 54th in the world | :02:47. | :02:53. | |
for 4G coverage, behind Romania, Albania and Peru with many mobile | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
users still struggling The National Infrastructure | :02:58. | :02:59. | |
Commission says the government must make sure the country is ready | :03:00. | :03:02. | |
for the next generation of technology, 5G or risk | :03:03. | :03:05. | |
languishing in what it calls There was a rise in the reported | :03:06. | :03:22. | |
numbers of hate crime. Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe told the BBC that cases | :03:23. | :03:25. | |
rose by three-quarters in the three months after the vote. But had now | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
fallen back towards their former level. He described the figures as | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
shocking and promised to protect anyone who was threatened. | :03:35. | :03:51. | |
Under a plea agreement, he admitted he had approached a policeman saying | :03:52. | :04:03. | |
he wanted Mr Trump's autograph. The Philippines president admitted | :04:04. | :04:05. | |
personally killing suspected criminals when he was the Mayor of A | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
southern city. He said he was setting an example to police | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
officers. He has drawn international criticism for his hard-line policy | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
to eradicate illegal drugs which has seen police kill thousands of | :04:21. | :04:23. | |
suspects since he became president in June. | :04:24. | :04:26. | |
Viewers are telling us where they haven't got 4G or 3G. Philip is in | :04:27. | :04:35. | |
North Yorkshire. Mobile signal awful. Mount Everest has 4G, why not | :04:36. | :04:44. | |
North Yorkshire? Gillian is cross, the mobile signal in West London is | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
atrocious. I have no choice, but to use a signal booster to make sure I | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
can receive and send messages and calls and my current provider hasn't | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
been helpful. This texter, "I live in Surrey and | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
the EE network is at best really bad. We don't get any service most | :05:01. | :05:08. | |
of the time let alone 3G or 4G. EE should spend more money on Kevin | :05:09. | :05:15. | |
Bacon! Such a small thing, but so very, | :05:16. | :05:21. | |
very annoying, isn't it Joanna? I'm glad it is not just me. I was saying | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
the other day that I don't find it as bad as 3G used to be sometimes. | :05:27. | :05:29. | |
It is clearly a problem. Those were the days! Thank you, Joanna. | :05:30. | :05:33. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning - | :05:34. | :05:35. | |
use the hashtag Victoria LIVE, and if you text, you will be charged | :05:36. | :05:38. | |
Arsenal have been in brilliant form of late, scoring 12 goals | :05:39. | :05:54. | |
in their past three games, so you'd probably have | :05:55. | :05:56. | |
bet on them overcoming a struggling Everton side. | :05:57. | :05:58. | |
But the Gunners lost 2-1 at Goodison Park, | :05:59. | :06:00. | |
even after going in front through Alexi Sanchez. | :06:01. | :06:02. | |
Everton equalised before half-time and then Ashley Williams | :06:03. | :06:04. | |
That's only Everton's second win in 11 games. | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
Also last night, Bournemouth beat Leicester 1-0, | :06:09. | :06:13. | |
and in the Scottish Premiership Celtic won 1-0 | :06:14. | :06:15. | |
Formula One World Champion Nico Rosberg says he hopes to be friends | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
The former Mercedes team-mates have had an intense rivalry on the track | :06:22. | :06:27. | |
Rosberg, who announced his retirement from the sport ten days | :06:28. | :06:31. | |
ago, says things have got friendlier between the pair since | :06:32. | :06:33. | |
There was some ups and downs. What really helped us through this time | :06:34. | :06:42. | |
was the respect that we still have back from the days when we were | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
really good friends in the carting days when we were like 14 years old | :06:47. | :06:51. | |
and that got us through all this. So in a decent way and now, you know, | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
we can have a laugh together at the moment. So I think, who knows maybe | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
in the future we might get on well again. | :07:00. | :07:01. | |
Dylan Hartley will find out today if he'll be available to captain | :07:02. | :07:04. | |
He will appear in front of an independent panel who'll | :07:05. | :07:09. | |
decide the length of ban he'll receive after being sent off | :07:10. | :07:12. | |
for the third time in his career in Northampton's defeat to Leinster | :07:13. | :07:14. | |
A new host city for the bobsleigh and skeleton world championships | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
will be announced in the next few days. | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
That's after the sport's governing body said it wouldn't be "prudent" | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
to hold the event in Russia in February following last week's | :07:30. | :07:32. | |
It claimed more than 1,000 Russians benefited from a doping cover-up | :07:33. | :07:36. | |
Remember those pictures of a young boy from Afghanistan wearing | :07:37. | :07:46. | |
a plastic bag to replicate Messi's Argentina shirt? | :07:47. | :07:49. | |
The picture went across the world on social media and the boy | :07:50. | :07:51. | |
Now that same little boy, his name is Moo-taza, | :07:52. | :07:58. | |
And he got to walk out onto the pitch with him. | :07:59. | :08:09. | |
Having so much fun, he didn't want to leave. | :08:10. | :08:23. | |
Barcelona might have a new signing there. | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
This time yesterday on the programme we were reporting the tweets | :08:30. | :08:31. | |
of desperate residents trapped in the Syrian city of | :08:32. | :08:34. | |
Rebel fighters are preparing to leave under a deal that could end | :08:35. | :08:47. | |
more than four years of fierce fighting. | :08:48. | :08:50. | |
Buses have been brought in, but the evacuation is being delayed | :08:51. | :08:59. | |
as the government there demands a simultaneous evacuation | :09:00. | :09:01. | |
Aleppo has been a key battleground in the war between forces loyal | :09:02. | :09:14. | |
to President Assad and rebels who want | :09:15. | :09:15. | |
People living there in the East, have faced non-stop bombardment | :09:16. | :09:24. | |
from pro-government forces for the last 48 hours, | :09:25. | :09:26. | |
with reports of barrel bombs, dead bodies piled in the streets, | :09:27. | :09:28. | |
and claims that civilians were being shot dead in the street, | :09:29. | :09:31. | |
Earlier we spoke to someone who is trapped in eastern Aleppo. He told | :09:32. | :09:44. | |
us about the fears of the people still there. | :09:45. | :09:53. | |
They love to kill everybody in Aleppo because that's what is | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
satisfying them. Sorry, I don't, can I just ask you about that last bit | :09:58. | :10:03. | |
you said? You said Iranians are trying to kill everyone in eastern | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
Aleppo to satisfy them. Is that what you just said? Yeah, that's what I | :10:08. | :10:11. | |
said because the Iranians, that's what they want and that's what they | :10:12. | :10:16. | |
have declared. I just heard some more shelling. Yes, it has continued | :10:17. | :10:22. | |
more about three hours and right now, I read about the Russians. It | :10:23. | :10:31. | |
says that the rebels resumed the attacks and also the regime will | :10:32. | :10:36. | |
attack the city and that's what is happening, but opposite the regime | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
started shelling and hitting the neighbourhoods to start attacking | :10:43. | :10:50. | |
again this besieged city. Let's talk to our reporter who is in | :10:51. | :10:57. | |
Beirut. Where are on the evacuation of people from the east of Aleppo? | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
Nobody has been evacuated from what we understand. The fighting goes on. | :11:03. | :11:06. | |
That ceasefire doesn't seem to have lasted for very long at all. | :11:07. | :11:12. | |
Different reports from both sides blaming each other on why the | :11:13. | :11:16. | |
fighting restarted. Proopposition media and activists saying that | :11:17. | :11:22. | |
Iranian militants, to back President Assad started shelling the start | :11:23. | :11:26. | |
remain enclave first thing this morning. Russia then responding | :11:27. | :11:32. | |
saying that it was in fact the rebels that began fighting and that | :11:33. | :11:37. | |
they used the short-term ceasefire as an opportunity to regroup. Now, | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
this whole situation regarding this deal was completely confusing when | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
it first came about last night. There were several different reports | :11:48. | :11:50. | |
about what was in part of this deal and what wasn't and when it was | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
going to begin and when people were going to start evacuating. It is | :11:54. | :11:56. | |
clear it hasn't held. Turkish officials said this morning that | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
talks are continuing between them and Russia to make sure that | :12:02. | :12:07. | |
evacuation does take place, but the Russian Foreign Minister has also | :12:08. | :12:10. | |
said this morning that it could take between two and three days for this | :12:11. | :12:16. | |
to come to an end and unclear if he moons for the fighting or the | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
evacuation deal to come into fruition. We will see what happens. | :12:21. | :12:26. | |
I know you will keep updating our audience. | :12:27. | :12:28. | |
Fardous Bahbouh, a Syrian living in the UK with friends and family | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
Zouhir Alshimale, Syrian national and freelance | :12:34. | :12:43. | |
Mary Creagh, a Labour MP who spoke in yesterday's debate on Syria | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
and who voted against military action in 2013. | :12:47. | :12:51. | |
And in favour of airstrikes against IS in December 2015. Let me start | :12:52. | :12:59. | |
with you as you are in east Aleppo. What is happening there on the | :13:00. | :13:03. | |
ground? The situation now is intensifying. | :13:04. | :13:13. | |
We can hear the shelling. How regular is that bombing? It is | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
constantly. In one hour, in one minute, you can count more than ten | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
attacks in one minute. So you can count in one hour how many bombs are | :13:24. | :13:30. | |
being hit until now with all of it by mortar attacks and artillery | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
attacks and the heavy launch, with a heavy ground launch bombs that are | :13:36. | :13:41. | |
being dropped here in a small area where it is overcrowded with the | :13:42. | :13:46. | |
civilians and families who are trapped in their buildings, they | :13:47. | :13:52. | |
cannot go and they cannot leave to go to the west of Aleppo. Are you | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
comfortable with continuing to talk to us or do you need to move? | :13:57. | :14:03. | |
I can't move anywhere else. There is no where else which is safe here in | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
the whole east. So if I move to the other part of the building, it will | :14:09. | :14:14. | |
be the same. Right. That bombing sounds close to you. Yes, it's | :14:15. | :14:20. | |
close. We're in a small area in the east here. So any bombs that might | :14:21. | :14:26. | |
drop is going to be very close and it might drop here in this building | :14:27. | :14:32. | |
or in this street as what happened like five minutes ago. It is still | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
continuing until now. Did you have hope, did you have | :14:37. | :14:41. | |
optimism overnight that you would be able to get out of the city this | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
morning after the ceasefire? Yes, of course. All the people were | :14:46. | :14:53. | |
excited and happy with the agreement about evacuating the city finally. | :14:54. | :15:02. | |
They were trying to get what they have and leave in the morning. The | :15:03. | :15:12. | |
severely injured people will be evacuated at 5am this morning. It | :15:13. | :15:17. | |
hasn't happened. And until now no one has left the east of Aleppo. | :15:18. | :15:25. | |
People were bombed and were frightened about the escalation | :15:26. | :15:28. | |
that's taking place right now and they think the regime is going to | :15:29. | :15:31. | |
take our ground forces. It is just happening around here. | :15:32. | :15:50. | |
Very close attacks. Maybe they will have ground forces on the ground, | :15:51. | :15:59. | |
escalating attacks. It might be there are 100 family members that | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
are scared now. There are many kids and women who are trapped and have | :16:06. | :16:15. | |
nowhere us to go. They are being abandoned. I know you have already | :16:16. | :16:25. | |
said... Can you still hear me? You have said there is nowhere as for | :16:26. | :16:28. | |
you to go to, because you are trapped, but if you want to end this | :16:29. | :16:34. | |
conversation, you must do that. No, it is fine, if you have anything you | :16:35. | :16:43. | |
want to ask. In the east there are more than 60,000 people, mostly | :16:44. | :16:47. | |
women and children, trapped, there is nowhere for them that is safe. | :16:48. | :16:51. | |
Many injuries. Until now, the attacks have been | :16:52. | :17:15. | |
intensified, as you can he. It is unimaginable for British people | :17:16. | :17:24. | |
watching you now. I don't know how you live like this, how you have | :17:25. | :17:32. | |
survived. I survived because I have not got bombed yet in my building. | :17:33. | :17:38. | |
But it might happen any time. Nobody is moving towards ending this | :17:39. | :17:47. | |
catastrophe. The regime are carrying on with their attacks. People on the | :17:48. | :17:54. | |
streets yesterday was not enough to hold the regime. Or to put pressure | :17:55. | :18:01. | |
on them to stop to let the people out of the city, and give them their | :18:02. | :18:08. | |
life back. They want to kill everybody here. Nobody cares about | :18:09. | :18:14. | |
those people who are trapped here and are being killed. Maybe we will | :18:15. | :18:26. | |
be trapped under the rubble of the buildings. Many people are watching, | :18:27. | :18:38. | |
we should go and demonstrate against the regime, we should do something, | :18:39. | :18:46. | |
assemble your friends and families and demand to stop the War crimes | :18:47. | :18:52. | |
that are taking place. I have a lady who lives here in the UK, who is a | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
Syrian, who has friends where you are, in the East and West. What | :18:58. | :19:03. | |
would you like to say to him? I am struggling to find words to support | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
you and tell you that there is solidarity from the people here, we | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
are just not seeing the political will to do something to stop the | :19:13. | :19:15. | |
regime. The action should have been done a long time ago. Why would they | :19:16. | :19:25. | |
announce a ceasefire with no protection for civilians? We are all | :19:26. | :19:32. | |
with you, we are standing in solidarity with our friends in the | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
UK, but we want the political will. Yes. There is nothing to say, is | :19:38. | :19:48. | |
there? Is a British politician, what can you say or do? I want to thank | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
you for the incredible courage you have shown in speaking to us today | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
and in the work that you do, live tweeting, I followed you on Twitter, | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
the work that you and other citizen journalists did a couple of nights | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
ago to wake the world up to the mass executions that were happening is | :20:07. | :20:09. | |
the reason why there was a discussion at the Security Council | :20:10. | :20:12. | |
yesterday, why we had that confrontation between the US and the | :20:13. | :20:19. | |
Russians on the Security Council why we had that debate in Parliament | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
yesterday. The courage that you have shown is one of the reasons why they | :20:24. | :20:30. | |
are playing cat and mouse with the West. You are caught in the middle | :20:31. | :20:37. | |
of a war of propaganda. The person who is victorious owns the history. | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
They want to own a history to say that you are all jihadis there, they | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
want to say that you are all rebel fighters, and they don't want to say | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
that they were teachers, human at variance, nurses, women and babies | :20:50. | :20:55. | |
and elderly and disabled people and that treated you the same. We know | :20:56. | :21:01. | |
that humanitarians and journalists have been attacked by the regime | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
consistently for showing up the terrible abuses that your people | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
have suffered. I want to say, thank you for what you have done, and | :21:11. | :21:15. | |
history will remember you, and the incredible courage you have shown. | :21:16. | :21:22. | |
If I may add, we all need to remember that the Syrian border | :21:23. | :21:25. | |
started as a peaceful revolution for freedom. The citizens in Aleppo, | :21:26. | :21:31. | |
they want the world to remember that we wanted freedom and the pity, but | :21:32. | :21:38. | |
the regime, with its brutality, and with Russian support, crushed | :21:39. | :21:40. | |
everybody, and now there is propaganda. But we wish the world | :21:41. | :21:46. | |
had acted a long time ago. There were so many missed opportunities to | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
stop Assad and Russia and Iran and the militia of Hezbollah. The world | :21:51. | :21:56. | |
has done nothing. How can win get ourselves later on, with no action? | :21:57. | :22:02. | |
There is still time for action. The Aleppo situation did not just start | :22:03. | :22:06. | |
yesterday, it has been going for so long, and it is time to do something | :22:07. | :22:18. | |
about it. Do you have hope that the international community can put | :22:19. | :22:23. | |
further pressure on Assad and the Russians to make sure a ceasefire | :22:24. | :22:32. | |
holds, so you can get out? I don't have any hope from the international | :22:33. | :22:36. | |
community at all. It has been six years until now. They have done | :22:37. | :22:42. | |
nothing apart from statements to said they are worried. They are | :22:43. | :22:48. | |
afraid about mass killing and people already killed. They are watching | :22:49. | :22:54. | |
and having statements. I have more faith in the people themselves, the | :22:55. | :23:00. | |
people who are our brothers, human beings, watching people in other | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
parts of the world, far away from here, from you in the UK or in | :23:05. | :23:09. | |
America or all around Asia or Africa, watching these videos that | :23:10. | :23:16. | |
came out from here, they can do something. There is a feeling that | :23:17. | :23:30. | |
each country has the power to put intense pressure on the Government, | :23:31. | :23:42. | |
in the Security Council, in every embassy. All around the world. She | :23:43. | :23:52. | |
just can not go to the main squares in every country and assemble and | :23:53. | :24:00. | |
demand to stop the massacring -- you can go to the main squares. If you | :24:01. | :24:06. | |
would like to do something, just go and do it. You don't have to pay for | :24:07. | :24:20. | |
something or to have some Facebook time, just go at night and assemble | :24:21. | :24:27. | |
and gather the people that you can go with during the night and just go | :24:28. | :24:42. | |
and make pressure, to put pressure on the Government. | :24:43. | :24:54. | |
American and Asian people and Arabian people... I could hear | :24:55. | :25:03. | |
voices in the background, are there people there? Are you OK? They are | :25:04. | :25:12. | |
friends of mine. I am going to read some messages from our British | :25:13. | :25:19. | |
audience. We are talking to a freelance journalist and a Syrian | :25:20. | :25:25. | |
and, he is talking to us live from East Aleppo. As we have been | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
conversing, we can clearly hear shelling going on behind him. This | :25:32. | :25:36. | |
after a ceasefire was meant to have been put into place last night. It | :25:37. | :25:41. | |
lasted for some hours, but it began again in the early hours of this | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
morning. There are some e-mails and tweets from British people. Wendy | :25:47. | :25:55. | |
says, I and crying as I watch him talk. Kramer says, how can the world | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
be watching this and take no action? It is an embarrassment to humanity. | :26:00. | :26:07. | |
Another viewer and says, Theresa May, Barack Obama, Angela Merkel, | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
are they watching this programme? Darren says, what are we waiting | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
for? We need to get these people safe. Clearly, there are people who | :26:15. | :26:24. | |
care deeply about you. They are not in a position of power, though. I am | :26:25. | :26:29. | |
just getting this news, from Damascus. It says rebel rocket fire | :26:30. | :26:37. | |
on government-held part of Syria's second city Aleppo has killed seven | :26:38. | :26:44. | |
people and wounded others, that has been reported on state television. | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
The Skype connection has just gone down. This being reported on a | :26:50. | :26:57. | |
French news agency, it is coming from state television in Syria, they | :26:58. | :27:02. | |
report that rebel rocket fire on government-held part of Aleppo has | :27:03. | :27:05. | |
killed seven people and wounded others. After fighting has regime | :27:06. | :27:11. | |
and an evacuation deal was suspended. It says six people were | :27:12. | :27:18. | |
killed and others wounded in another neighbourhood, with a seventh person | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
killed, and more wounded in other government-held parts of the city. | :27:24. | :27:29. | |
Final comment from you? The pressure now falls to the British Government | :27:30. | :27:33. | |
to call in the Russian ambassador and the Syrian ambassador. We have | :27:34. | :27:39. | |
British aid charities that have workers in eastern Aleppo who are | :27:40. | :27:43. | |
trapped. I asked Foreign Secretary what he was doing to get the | :27:44. | :27:47. | |
humanitarians out. We know they are targeted by the regime and the | :27:48. | :27:53. | |
Russians. It is incumbent upon us as a country, if we believe in | :27:54. | :28:00. | |
humanitarian... Intervening on humanitarian grounds, I see no | :28:01. | :28:03. | |
clearer case than what is unfolding in Aleppo today. | :28:04. | :28:06. | |
The former football coach Barry Bennell is appearing | :28:07. | :28:08. | |
at Crewe Magistrates Court this morning, via video link. | :28:09. | :28:11. | |
The ex-Crewe Alexandra youth coach has been charged | :28:12. | :28:14. | |
Barry Bennell has been remanded in custody and will appear again at | :28:15. | :28:32. | |
Chester Crown Court on January 11th. The hearing here lasted about 15 | :28:33. | :28:40. | |
minutes. He did not appear here in person, he appeared via video link. | :28:41. | :28:46. | |
He was wearing a blue jumper, he spoke only to confirm his name and | :28:47. | :28:50. | |
address, which was given as of no fixed abode. He is 62, a former | :28:51. | :28:56. | |
football coach, a former youth coach with Crewe Alexandra, he also worked | :28:57. | :29:03. | |
as a number of other clubs across the north-west. He has been charged | :29:04. | :29:07. | |
with eight offences of sexual assault against boy aged under 15. | :29:08. | :29:12. | |
The offences are alleged to have happened between 1981 and 1985. He | :29:13. | :29:18. | |
was charged following an investigation by Cheshire police, | :29:19. | :29:22. | |
they submitted a file of evidence in September. Barry Bennell has been | :29:23. | :29:28. | |
remanded in custody, he will appear again at Chester Crown Court on | :29:29. | :29:30. | |
January the 11th. With the news, here's Joanna | :29:31. | :29:38. | |
in the BBC Newsroom. Shelling has resumed | :29:39. | :29:40. | |
in the Syrian city of Aleppo, a day after a ceasefire was agreed | :29:41. | :29:42. | |
between the government The evacuation of wounded civilians | :29:43. | :29:45. | |
and up to 1,500 fighters has been delayed because of new demands | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
from the government. Buses which were meant to take | :29:50. | :29:54. | |
rebels and civilians out of Aleppo The audible sound of shelling | :29:55. | :29:57. | |
interrupted an interview from Aleppo A local journalist told us how | :29:58. | :30:12. | |
residents had started the day happy that a ceasefire had been announced. | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
People were excited and happy with the agreement and evacuating the | :30:17. | :30:22. | |
city, finally. They were just preparing themselves, packaging | :30:23. | :30:35. | |
their stuff, and we have got to know that the severely injured people | :30:36. | :30:43. | |
will be evacuated at 5am. It has not happened, and nobody has left the | :30:44. | :30:49. | |
east of Aleppo. People were very frightened about this escalation | :30:50. | :30:52. | |
that is taking place now. They think that the regime will take ground | :30:53. | :30:57. | |
forces... The former football coach | :30:58. | :31:02. | |
Barry Bennell has appeared at Crewe Magistrates' | :31:03. | :31:04. | |
Court via video-link. The ex-Crewe Alexandra youth coach, | :31:05. | :31:07. | |
who is 62, was charged with eight offences of sexual assault | :31:08. | :31:10. | |
against a boy under the age of 14. He was remanded in custody | :31:11. | :31:13. | |
until next month. Train bosses and unions have begun | :31:14. | :31:24. | |
talks in an effort to resolve The company has advised its 300,000 | :31:25. | :31:26. | |
daily passengers not to travel, after ASLEF and RMT members | :31:27. | :31:30. | |
walked out yesterday. Southern and the unions are meeting | :31:31. | :31:32. | |
at the conciliation service ACAS. Police have charged a 29-year-old | :31:33. | :31:37. | |
policeman with attempting to "incite sexual activity" | :31:38. | :31:39. | |
with a child under 13. Nicholas Pool, a PC | :31:40. | :31:44. | |
in South Cumbria, will appear at Carlisle Magistrates' | :31:45. | :31:46. | |
Court this morning. He is currently suspended | :31:47. | :31:48. | |
from the force. A British man who tried to grab | :31:49. | :31:53. | |
a police officer's gun at a Donald Trump rally has been | :31:54. | :31:56. | |
sentenced to 12 months in prison Michael Sandford, who is 20, | :31:57. | :31:59. | |
pleaded guilty to possessing a firearm and disrupting | :32:00. | :32:02. | |
the campaign rally in Las Vegas, He admitted that he had | :32:03. | :32:04. | |
approached a policeman, saying he wanted | :32:05. | :32:07. | |
Mr Trump's autograph. Join me for BBC | :32:08. | :32:11. | |
Newsroom Live at 11am. Thank you very much. We have many | :32:12. | :32:22. | |
messages from you about the interview with the journalist in | :32:23. | :32:29. | |
east Aleppo. Most of you are saying that he had immense courage for | :32:30. | :32:33. | |
actually continue talking to you as the shelling was going on around him | :32:34. | :32:40. | |
in that city. A viewer says, "Very powerful stuff from the journalist | :32:41. | :32:43. | |
in Aleppo. The situation there needs sorting out now." Emily tweets, | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
"Shocking scenes from Aleppo. Staggering scenes and sounds from | :32:49. | :32:51. | |
east Aleppo says Emma. Terrifying and gut-wrenching. Horrible, | :32:52. | :32:55. | |
horrible situation and I feel helpless. Amanda says, "So how we | :32:56. | :32:58. | |
areful. This man is so brave." Arsenal missed the chance to go top | :32:59. | :33:02. | |
of the Premier League last Celtic are now 11 | :33:03. | :33:12. | |
points clear at the top of the Scottish Premiership | :33:13. | :33:19. | |
after a 1-0 win over Hamilton. Formula One World Champion Nico | :33:20. | :33:22. | |
Rosberg says he hopes he might become friends | :33:23. | :33:24. | |
with Lewis Hamilton again. The former Mercedes teammates had | :33:25. | :33:26. | |
an intense rivalry on track, but Rosberg says the pair have had | :33:27. | :33:28. | |
kind words since he won the title. The German announced his retirement | :33:29. | :33:32. | |
from the sport ten days ago. Dylan Hartley will find out today | :33:33. | :33:37. | |
if he'll be available to captain He will appear in front | :33:38. | :33:40. | |
of an independent panel who'll decide the length of ban he'll | :33:41. | :33:44. | |
receive after being sent off for the third time in his career | :33:45. | :33:47. | |
in Northampton's defeat A new host city for the bobsleigh | :33:48. | :33:49. | |
and skeleton world championships will be announced in | :33:50. | :33:56. | |
the next few days. That's after the sport's governing | :33:57. | :34:01. | |
body said it wouldn't be "prudent" to hold the event in Russia | :34:02. | :34:04. | |
in February, following last week's The investigation into an alleged | :34:05. | :34:06. | |
assault on Strictly Come Dancing star Gorka Marquez has | :34:07. | :34:14. | |
been dropped by police. Our Entertainment Reporter Chi Chi | :34:15. | :34:16. | |
Izundu joins me now. Remind us, what | :34:17. | :34:18. | |
originally happened? This incident is said to have taken | :34:19. | :34:25. | |
place after the Blackpool Tower ballroom live event of Strictly. | :34:26. | :34:31. | |
Apparently Gorka was walking to a nightclub in Blackpool with others. | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
He was apparently set upon by a group of youths. They punched him to | :34:36. | :34:39. | |
the ground and then he chipped two of his teeth on his lower jaw and | :34:40. | :34:44. | |
had to get emergency dental surgery. What have the police said? Well, the | :34:45. | :34:48. | |
police said they have checked CCTV of the assault and haven't found any | :34:49. | :34:53. | |
evidence of it taking place. They have said they carried out a | :34:54. | :34:57. | |
proportionate investigation which is now closed and that they never got a | :34:58. | :35:01. | |
complaint from Gorka in the first place, but they want victims of any | :35:02. | :35:04. | |
crime to come forward and talk to them as much as possible. Has Gorka | :35:05. | :35:08. | |
said anything after the news from the police? He hasn't and there has | :35:09. | :35:11. | |
been no official statement from the BBC, but they have stressed that in | :35:12. | :35:14. | |
the past when this incident did happen, he said that he wanted to | :35:15. | :35:20. | |
put it behind him and move on. BAFTA has said it is to introduce a | :35:21. | :35:26. | |
series of diversity measures following a survey of its | :35:27. | :35:29. | |
membership? Indeed. This is not going to kick in until 2019, but | :35:30. | :35:35. | |
they did a recent survey of their 7500 strong membership. 45% actually | :35:36. | :35:39. | |
replied and they discovered that their numbers are quite low in | :35:40. | :35:43. | |
response. They have got 41% female and 13% were from an ethnic minority | :35:44. | :35:49. | |
and the media age was 52. They want to change that. From 2019, the | :35:50. | :35:55. | |
criteria for outstanding British film and outstanding debut by | :35:56. | :35:58. | |
British writer, director or producers will need to be eligible | :35:59. | :36:04. | |
in these categories to adhere to the British Film Institute's diversity | :36:05. | :36:06. | |
standards which will change to make sure the make up of the film, both | :36:07. | :36:10. | |
on screen and behind screen, actually make up the audience that | :36:11. | :36:14. | |
are watching film. So it is representative effectively? It is | :36:15. | :36:17. | |
definitely representative. Southern rail passengers are facing | :36:18. | :36:22. | |
a second day of travel chaos due to strikes, as talks continue to try | :36:23. | :36:25. | |
and find a resolution to the dispute We can talk to the RMT union's | :36:26. | :36:28. | |
General-Secretary Mick Lynch. Huw Merriman, a Conservative MP | :36:29. | :36:36. | |
who sits on the Transport Select Committee and is a rail | :36:37. | :36:40. | |
commuter himself, Leigh Robb, a former train driver | :36:41. | :36:42. | |
and guard, and Jacqui Miles, who is stranded in Oxford and can't | :36:43. | :36:45. | |
get home because of the strike. Where is home? Caterham in Surrey. | :36:46. | :37:01. | |
I'm going to start with Mick Lynch. The rail safety standards board says | :37:02. | :37:04. | |
there is no evidence to suggest that there is an increased risk of harm | :37:05. | :37:10. | |
to passengers where drivers operate powered doors providing the correct | :37:11. | :37:14. | |
procedures are followed? The RSB talks about risk. We are not | :37:15. | :37:20. | |
particularly interested in risk we are interested in high standards. | :37:21. | :37:23. | |
They said the method that was in place was just as safe. What | :37:24. | :37:27. | |
Southern has done is bring forward a new operating system which saves | :37:28. | :37:30. | |
them money and they attempted to do that so they can increase their | :37:31. | :37:32. | |
profits. They could have continued with the previous system and not | :37:33. | :37:36. | |
have had this dispute, but they are doing what the Government has asked | :37:37. | :37:40. | |
them it to did which get rid of guards and destaff the trains. If | :37:41. | :37:43. | |
they revert back to the system we had before which is perfectly | :37:44. | :37:47. | |
sound... Who asked Southern to do that? Well, Peter Wilkinson said... | :37:48. | :37:53. | |
Who is he? The head of the trains division, at the Department for | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
Transport. Is he an elected official or a civil servant? He is a civil | :37:59. | :38:05. | |
servant. Is senior civil servant told the bosses of Southern to make | :38:06. | :38:10. | |
people redundant? That's our view. Have you got evidence? He said on | :38:11. | :38:17. | |
file that he wants to smash the RMT and ASLEF. Why would the RMT do the | :38:18. | :38:22. | |
bidding... This is a directly operated company where they get paid | :38:23. | :38:25. | |
a management fee so they are under the control of the DFT. We think if | :38:26. | :38:31. | |
the DFT creates an environment where Southern are free to make an | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
agreement to our union and ASLEF we can get an agreement to this. The | :38:36. | :38:38. | |
organisation that is responsible for safety standards on the railways... | :38:39. | :38:45. | |
Yes. There is no evidence. Are you saying the companies are corrupt? | :38:46. | :38:50. | |
I'm not saying they are corrupt. Their point is to facilitate what | :38:51. | :38:53. | |
the companies want to do. They are in charge of standards for safety. | :38:54. | :38:57. | |
They are not going to make something up to suit their pay masters? They | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
are not in charge of safety. Sorry, there is no evidence to suggest that | :39:03. | :39:06. | |
there is an increased ricks of harm to passengers. So it is the same as | :39:07. | :39:09. | |
now? There is evidence to suggest it. They are the safety standards | :39:10. | :39:12. | |
board. They say there is no evidence? I know what they are | :39:13. | :39:16. | |
Victoria. I know what they do and I know who pays for them. They have | :39:17. | :39:21. | |
authorised the other system with guards and conductors which operates | :39:22. | :39:25. | |
in 70% of the rail system. If you asked them about that, rather than | :39:26. | :39:28. | |
selecting that quote they would say that's a sound system as well. | :39:29. | :39:33. | |
Well, you make donations to the Labour Party who would like to see | :39:34. | :39:38. | |
the nationalisation of the railways, is that corrupt? We're not | :39:39. | :39:41. | |
affiliated to the Labour Party. You make donation to the Labour Party... | :39:42. | :39:45. | |
We don't make donations to the Labour Party. We don't make | :39:46. | :39:48. | |
donations to the individual MPs. So Jeremy Corbyn? I want to nationalise | :39:49. | :39:54. | |
the railways. Is there anything wrong with that link in the way you | :39:55. | :39:58. | |
are making out the link between the staeventds board and Southern? There | :39:59. | :40:02. | |
is no corrupt link between us or Labour MPs and green MPs whom we | :40:03. | :40:07. | |
also support. The RSSB is there to facilitate, it is a club of train | :40:08. | :40:11. | |
operators to facilitate what they want to do which is create a | :40:12. | :40:18. | |
guardless system. Leigh, what's it like being the driver of a train | :40:19. | :40:21. | |
where you have responsibility for opening and closing the doors? Well, | :40:22. | :40:28. | |
I have been driving trains for many years and obviously it has change | :40:29. | :40:35. | |
quite a bit over the time. The actual camera system isn't | :40:36. | :40:40. | |
particularly that good. So you are with a long train, a lot of | :40:41. | :40:45. | |
carriages... The 12 carriages, I personally would rather have a guard | :40:46. | :40:52. | |
at all times, but obviously, because of the financial restraints, | :40:53. | :40:55. | |
etcetera we have had to put up with over the years, but I will say I | :40:56. | :40:59. | |
have to agree with a lot of what this gentleman says, it is easy to | :41:00. | :41:02. | |
knock because he is a member of a union and a lot of what he says, | :41:03. | :41:08. | |
reading between the lines from what I hear from reports and other | :41:09. | :41:13. | |
people, there seems to be a lot of involvement by from people outside | :41:14. | :41:17. | |
the industry. Do you back the strike? Well, I work for Southern | :41:18. | :41:23. | |
and they are not a bad company. Do you back the strike? For drivers to | :41:24. | :41:27. | |
go on strike there has to be a major problem because drivers do not go on | :41:28. | :41:31. | |
strike. Do you back it? I would have done if I was a driver, but I | :41:32. | :41:34. | |
haven't been driving for five years, but I'm not in that situation at the | :41:35. | :41:39. | |
moment, and I don't want to comment as such, but for a driver to strike | :41:40. | :41:43. | |
there has to be a major problem. I was a driver 20 years and I can't | :41:44. | :41:48. | |
remember us actually ever striking. You sit on the Transport Select | :41:49. | :41:50. | |
Committee and you are a commuter. When is this going to be resolved, | :41:51. | :41:54. | |
that's all passengers want to know? Well, they rightly do. One behind | :41:55. | :42:01. | |
you on that basis. It is incredibly frustrating, constituents get to | :42:02. | :42:04. | |
work and get back to their families. We know that. The power is with the | :42:05. | :42:11. | |
union. We don't have the powers to bring the union back and that shows | :42:12. | :42:15. | |
how irresponsible and unreasonable this strike action is because jobs | :42:16. | :42:18. | |
have been guaranteed, pay has been guaranteed there, is an argument | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
about who opens and closes the doors with technology that's been | :42:23. | :42:26. | |
introduced since 1982 so whilst Southern drivers are on strike right | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
now, 30% of the network, with ASLEF drivers are driving the same | :42:32. | :42:34. | |
technology. That's what my constituents can't understand. There | :42:35. | :42:36. | |
is no consistency, there is no logic. | :42:37. | :42:41. | |
So when are you going to sort it? We hope the across talks will reach | :42:42. | :42:45. | |
some fruition, if they don't the Secretary of State for transport | :42:46. | :42:48. | |
said that legislation has to be an option and that would be a shame to | :42:49. | :42:55. | |
go down that route. This is so disproportionate, you are | :42:56. | :42:57. | |
restricting the freedom of my constituents to get to work and get | :42:58. | :43:04. | |
back to their homes. Grayling won't allow a settlement because he wants | :43:05. | :43:08. | |
to get rid of the guards. This is safe. It has been used for decades | :43:09. | :43:15. | |
and it is safe on Southern. Jacqui, you are a commuter, tell Mick Lynch | :43:16. | :43:20. | |
from the union how fed up you are? It is not just the union, it is the | :43:21. | :43:26. | |
Government too. I don't blame the unions on this. My frustration is | :43:27. | :43:30. | |
that nothing has happened in seven or eight months. I have been, I work | :43:31. | :43:35. | |
at the English National Opera and I have to travel into London sometimes | :43:36. | :43:41. | |
twice a day and for the last seven months that's been a nightmare, turn | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
up at the station, maybe it has been cancelled and it disappears off the | :43:47. | :43:51. | |
screen while you are waiting and the destination changes and the | :43:52. | :43:53. | |
culmination has been the last week and I teach in Oxford and I teach in | :43:54. | :43:57. | |
Caterham at home, as well as commuting into London. And I come to | :43:58. | :44:02. | |
Oxford to teach. And I was planning to go back this week to Caterham to | :44:03. | :44:08. | |
teach two days of pupils and have a Christmas concert which the students | :44:09. | :44:11. | |
have been working towards for the whole of the term and I had to | :44:12. | :44:16. | |
cancel that. I've lost income as a result of it. But there is quite a | :44:17. | :44:19. | |
few children who are disappointed they haven't had the chance to do | :44:20. | :44:24. | |
their concerts. Fair enough. It is not fair enough, but I understand | :44:25. | :44:29. | |
that. Hugh, if the Government ever does go down to the road of | :44:30. | :44:33. | |
introducing legislation to ban strikes on the railways, that would | :44:34. | :44:37. | |
be an admission that you had completely mishandled this whole | :44:38. | :44:41. | |
dispute, wouldn't it? It would be an admission that this is a union that | :44:42. | :44:44. | |
unlike some of the other unions that reformed this is a union that still | :44:45. | :44:48. | |
demands to call the shots over and above what passengers and the | :44:49. | :44:51. | |
operators want and as far as I'm concerned that's wrong because it is | :44:52. | :44:54. | |
the passengers that are paying for the service and I would like the | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
unions to be responsible. You consider the Miners' Strike, that's | :44:59. | :45:01. | |
when the mines were being closed downment the rail industry doubled | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
in the last 20 years of the it is a great industry to work in and this | :45:05. | :45:08. | |
type of action is only going to make it worse, not just for passengers, | :45:09. | :45:09. | |
but those who work in it. It is because passenger numbers have | :45:10. | :45:19. | |
doubled that this is not suitable, it is about a whole suite of | :45:20. | :45:28. | |
measures. We are defending the standards. DOO is outmoded, we need | :45:29. | :45:38. | |
a card and driver working together, and a settlement is available today | :45:39. | :45:41. | |
if the Government allow it to happen. Chris Grayling needs to get | :45:42. | :45:44. | |
out of the arena or make the settlement happen. | :45:45. | :45:53. | |
Thank you for commenting on the interview with the freelance | :45:54. | :45:58. | |
journalist in East Aleppo. He was speaking to us in a besieged city, | :45:59. | :46:05. | |
as severe shelling took place close to him. | :46:06. | :46:14. | |
It is close. Any bond that might drop are going to be very close. It | :46:15. | :46:20. | |
might drop here in this building or in this street. As happened five | :46:21. | :46:28. | |
minutes ago. It is still continuing. Did you have optimism overnight that | :46:29. | :46:33. | |
you would be able to get out of the city this morning after the | :46:34. | :46:39. | |
ceasefire? Yes, of course. All the people were excited and happy with | :46:40. | :46:44. | |
the agreement about evacuated the city, finally. They were packaging | :46:45. | :46:53. | |
their stuff, trying to get what they have and to leave in the morning. | :46:54. | :47:00. | |
We have been in touch with him since the interview, which was about 25 | :47:01. | :47:07. | |
minutes ago, he is OK. We lost the Skype line. He is OK, he says. We | :47:08. | :47:14. | |
will keep in touch with him over the coming hours. He has just tweeted | :47:15. | :47:16. | |
this. Thank you for your many messages. | :47:17. | :47:32. | |
Incredible reporting, says one person on Twitter, live from Aleppo. | :47:33. | :47:38. | |
This guy is so courageous. Richard, he is one of the bravest people I | :47:39. | :47:42. | |
have seen, Aleppo is a tragedy and people need our help. Matt says, he | :47:43. | :47:48. | |
is so very brave to be talking to Victoria, no words can explain the | :47:49. | :47:54. | |
horrific events. One person says, unbelievable coverage today, it | :47:55. | :47:58. | |
makes me feel ashamed. We moan about mobile phone coverage, come on. If | :47:59. | :48:02. | |
he says, terrifying scenes from Aleppo. Tasha says, literally in | :48:03. | :48:09. | |
tears watching the journalist talking live from eastern Aleppo | :48:10. | :48:12. | |
while arms are going off around his building. Thank you for those. | :48:13. | :48:23. | |
We will talk to one of the country's top psychologists. | :48:24. | :48:29. | |
He's coached the likes of Sir Chris Hoy, Victoria Pendleton | :48:30. | :48:32. | |
and Ronnie O'Sullivan to success and has worked across | :48:33. | :48:34. | |
He is a psychiatrist I beg your pardon, not a psychologist. | :48:35. | :48:44. | |
What he does for those top sportsmen and women, | :48:45. | :48:46. | |
In terms of the sportsmen and women you have turned around when they | :48:47. | :49:04. | |
have lost, can you do the same for the rest of us? They have turned | :49:05. | :49:09. | |
themselves around, I can only catalyse that. The person | :49:10. | :49:15. | |
themselves, when I work with them, I can get them to say what they are | :49:16. | :49:18. | |
trying to achieve, and what they think is and isn't working, and then | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
offer some ideas. It is unique to the person. I would love to say, | :49:23. | :49:27. | |
these are the five things that will make you happy and successful. But I | :49:28. | :49:31. | |
can say there are commonalities that maybe will help people. It is | :49:32. | :49:37. | |
finding something that resonates and making yourself proactive in doing | :49:38. | :49:44. | |
that. As we reflect on 2016, this has the caveat with what we are | :49:45. | :49:50. | |
reporting in Aleppo, so whatever anybody has gone through, I am not | :49:51. | :49:55. | |
sure much of it could compare, but you would look on your last year, as | :49:56. | :50:00. | |
you move into the next one, what advice can you give people for | :50:01. | :50:03. | |
approaching 2017 with some kind of decent outlook? Having seen these | :50:04. | :50:11. | |
news items, one thing that resonates is, get perspective. When you get | :50:12. | :50:17. | |
perspective, it starts making things seem less serious, because some of | :50:18. | :50:21. | |
the things we worry about, at the time they don't seem to be trivial, | :50:22. | :50:26. | |
but sitting back and thinking, five or ten minutes a day, can make a | :50:27. | :50:31. | |
difference, cos you think, what am I trying to achieve? That gives us | :50:32. | :50:35. | |
perspective and helps us work with reality, which is the starting | :50:36. | :50:38. | |
point. Once you have perspective, then what? Define what it is you are | :50:39. | :50:45. | |
trying to achieve. I had the privilege of working in sport, I | :50:46. | :50:49. | |
have been in the NHS for over 20 years as a consultant, now I have | :50:50. | :50:54. | |
jumped into elite sport and schools. It has been fantastic. I will give | :50:55. | :50:59. | |
Ronnie O'Sullivan as an example. I spoke to him yesterday, I would not | :51:00. | :51:05. | |
talk to somebody I work with in less they give permission, and he is | :51:06. | :51:10. | |
happy. I met him five years ago, the most gifted snooker player we have | :51:11. | :51:14. | |
ever had, and he walked into the room and he complained about stress, | :51:15. | :51:18. | |
he had not won anything for three years, what can he do? My question | :51:19. | :51:23. | |
was basic. What is it you want to do? To cut it short, he said, I just | :51:24. | :51:29. | |
want to be happy and placed Luke. This is what we have seen in elite | :51:30. | :51:35. | |
sports people, you forget what it is about, it is about enjoying what you | :51:36. | :51:41. | |
do. What we do is, we substitute the enjoyment for attainment. I'm not | :51:42. | :51:46. | |
saying attainment is wrong, but get perspective. Counterintuitively, it | :51:47. | :51:51. | |
follows, happier you get, the more you are likely to attain. We are | :51:52. | :51:56. | |
trying to get his victories at the World Championships, but we got him | :51:57. | :52:01. | |
back to the table saying, let's enjoy snooker. The result was he won | :52:02. | :52:06. | |
the next two world titles. By allowing himself to simply enjoy it, | :52:07. | :52:11. | |
rather than aiming to be the world champion, that took some pressure | :52:12. | :52:15. | |
off him? Exactly. You see this with children. This is the next | :52:16. | :52:21. | |
generation of people that we want to get it right for, the last thing I | :52:22. | :52:28. | |
want is to see people stressing out. It is a result of their own outlook. | :52:29. | :52:33. | |
Look at what you are doing and see if you can change your approach. | :52:34. | :52:37. | |
Attainment in business, in medicine, I trained doctors, that is critical | :52:38. | :52:43. | |
and important, but it is a dream. We hope to be fantastic, and you cannot | :52:44. | :52:49. | |
guarantee it. You can guarantee that you can enjoy yourself and do your | :52:50. | :52:54. | |
best. That is the key. I say to children, do your best, and the | :52:55. | :52:58. | |
research backs this. If you encourage them to do their best and | :52:59. | :53:04. | |
prays that, they are likely to attain, but if you say, this is what | :53:05. | :53:08. | |
you have got to get, the evidence is that you start to stress, because | :53:09. | :53:12. | |
you cannot guarantee that you will achieve. In terms of that kind of | :53:13. | :53:20. | |
outlook, enjoying stuff, having a perspective, how much is it also | :53:21. | :53:23. | |
about conquering your personal fears? I am a psychiatrist, we look | :53:24. | :53:33. | |
at the mind and the neuroscience. I have tried to make it simpler, | :53:34. | :53:37. | |
because it is complex. We do not stress, it is the brain that start | :53:38. | :53:42. | |
bringing stress and it cannot understand something or perceived | :53:43. | :53:47. | |
change -- danger. But often we get that wrong. What I would say to | :53:48. | :53:54. | |
people is, if you start to feel anxious and you feel these emotions | :53:55. | :53:58. | |
coming, to them as a message that says, what are you going to do about | :53:59. | :54:02. | |
it? Rather than engaging with them and getting into more of a mess. | :54:03. | :54:11. | |
Rather say, the machine is saying, there is stress for a reason, what | :54:12. | :54:16. | |
is the solution? That is the way forward, but the emotion to one side | :54:17. | :54:19. | |
and say, how am I going to take this forward to resolve the message? We | :54:20. | :54:24. | |
talk about mental health a lot, it is a huge issue. You want to see | :54:25. | :54:31. | |
changes in schools, tell us about that. I am not the expert. I was a | :54:32. | :54:38. | |
former teacher. You have just thought about this more than we | :54:39. | :54:42. | |
have. I have a charitable company, we work in schools, and we say... | :54:43. | :54:48. | |
For teachers as well, they get stressed, because of pressures put | :54:49. | :54:50. | |
on them. They are doing a brilliant job, 99% of them have integrity and | :54:51. | :54:58. | |
are working hard. All we can do is start praising them, because they | :54:59. | :55:03. | |
deserve the same. If we cascade that their two children, if we start | :55:04. | :55:05. | |
awarding the fact that they are doing their best, and that means | :55:06. | :55:13. | |
trying, they will start to XL. If we keep saying to them, you must attain | :55:14. | :55:17. | |
the following and do this, instead of saying, we would like you to do | :55:18. | :55:23. | |
that but enjoy it, that is likely to get them their five GCSEs, rather | :55:24. | :55:27. | |
than saying, we will measure this. That creates stress. It is | :55:28. | :55:31. | |
concerning that we have these recent studies, in girls, between 15 and | :55:32. | :55:38. | |
25, a quarter are suffering depressive features or anxiety and | :55:39. | :55:42. | |
self harming. We have to address this, it is becoming a bit of a | :55:43. | :55:48. | |
crisis. For the schools, I say, can we change our stand? The evidence is | :55:49. | :55:51. | |
it will work. What about social media? And the pressures that puts | :55:52. | :55:59. | |
on young boys and girls? Some kids have smartphones aged seven, it is | :56:00. | :56:04. | |
believable. It is not an evil thing, like anything, it can be. We have to | :56:05. | :56:11. | |
teach children to use it sensibly, but we will never stop bullying will | :56:12. | :56:15. | |
stop we should address it, but it will happen. I listened to somebody | :56:16. | :56:21. | |
talking about children and stress and saying, get them to talk, and I | :56:22. | :56:25. | |
absolutely agree. And adults as well. When we talk, we listen to our | :56:26. | :56:32. | |
staff, -- ourselves, and it helps us rationalise. For children, the step | :56:33. | :56:37. | |
further is that we teach resilient. We know that life will be tough. All | :56:38. | :56:43. | |
of this about being happy and constructive, you still have to deal | :56:44. | :56:47. | |
with what will be knocking is about emotionally, so I would like them to | :56:48. | :56:50. | |
talk, but maybe start teaching resilient. How do you key to | :56:51. | :56:55. | |
resilient? Teaching them perspective, reality, values, and we | :56:56. | :57:01. | |
operate by a value system and award ourselves by a plummeting values? | :57:02. | :57:05. | |
Cos you start to see who you are and you get to be in tune with your | :57:06. | :57:10. | |
values, rather than asking how many of your friends like you, that is an | :57:11. | :57:13. | |
unstable foundation. This is the latest from Aleppo. The | :57:14. | :57:26. | |
Syrian army says the number of people wanting to leave Aleppo is | :57:27. | :57:36. | |
15,000. Including 4000 insurgents. The Syrian Army says the number of | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
people wanting to leave is 15,000, including 4000 insurgents. That has | :57:41. | :57:46. | |
been reported by Reuters. We were hearing earlier that the UN | :57:47. | :57:51. | |
estimated there were 50,000 civilians still trapped. In our | :57:52. | :57:56. | |
interview with the freelance journalist in the east of Aleppo, | :57:57. | :58:01. | |
who was reporting live on our programme for about 20 minutes as | :58:02. | :58:04. | |
the shells were going off around him, lots of you asking if he is OK. | :58:05. | :58:09. | |
He is, we have been in touch with him. We lost the sky plan, but we | :58:10. | :58:15. | |
have been back in touch, he is OK. We will keep in touch with him over | :58:16. | :58:19. | |
the coming hours and days. Thank you for your company today, we are back | :58:20. | :58:22. | |
tomorrow at 9am. Have a good day. You all right there? | :58:23. | :58:31. | |
Oh, it's a very exciting day A very young MasterChef Gregg | :58:32. | :58:33. | |
Wallace is paying us a visit. He's probably going to tell everyone | :58:34. | :58:37. | |
how the nation consumes | :58:38. | :58:43. |