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the cloud might be thick enough for the odd

One parcel had drugs in it. What was in there? It's not of cannabis. You

smell it and then what? You tell the managers and they say, you need to

deliver it. If you see the person you're delivering two, tell them to

be more careful. Really? The next American president

Donald Trump has publicly sided with Russia over America's

intelligence services over claims that Russia interfered

in the USelection process Today he meets intelligence chiefs

to hear their evidence. More people than ever with mental

health problems are being kept in hospitals for longer

than necessary because of problems finding care

for them when they leave. We talk to a man who says he felt

like he'd been kidnapped after being kept on a secure

ward for months. Welcome to the programme, we're live

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we're talking about this morning - we are talking about lots

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than they need because of problems with onward care, get

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and if you text, you will be charged Our top story today,

Donald Trump's doubts over the judgement of America's

intelligence chiefs has been attacked as "absolutely mindless"

by the outgoing US vice president The President-elect, is due to meet

intelligence chiefs today, to discuss their claims that Russia

tried to interfere in the American Mr Trump's been facing renewed

criticism from senior Republicans and Democrats about his scepticism,

and less than 24-hours before the meeting, one of his top

intelligence advisers quit his team. The three Wise men of US

intelligence. Together in their belief that Russian hacking

interfered with the presidential election, intending to help Donald

Trump win. The hacking was only one part of it. It also entailed

classical propaganda, disinformation, fake news. But in

the last few hours, the President-elect has again questioned

their judgment. It's the latest in a long list of

online outbursts. First rubbishing intelligence officials, before

saying he's a big fan, then challenging them once again. The CIA

director said he was expecting a feisty meeting. I am hoping that he

is going to be respectful, respectful of the agency as well as

the intelligence community. And looking forward to a rather robust

if not sporty discussion. On this issue. There has been more blunt

criticism of Mr Trump's approach from his political enemies. Not to

be prepared to listen to the myriad of intelligence agencies, from

defence intelligence to the CIA, etc, is absolutely mindless. It's

just mindless. And from Republicans to. Every American should be alarmed

by Russia's attacks on our nation. There is no national security and

trust more vital to the USA than the ability to hold free and fair

elections without foreign interference. Putin is up to no good

and had better be stopped. Mr President-elect, when you listen to

these people, you can be sceptical, but understand they are the best

among us and they are trying to protect us. At least two of these

men won't be around for long. They'll be replaced when Donald

Trump takes office, two weeks today. Dan Johnson, BBC News.

Annita McVeigh is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

The failure to predict the financial crisis of 2008 was a "Michael Fish"

moment for economists, the Bank of England's

Andy Haldane compared financial forecasts to the famously inaccurate

reassurances given by the BBC weatherman ahead of the UK's

Mr Haldane said the profession was "to some degree in crisis"

following the crash and the Brexit vote.

Delays in discharging people from hospital are rising more

rapidly in mental health trusts than other parts of the NHS

NHS England data found a 56% rise in the number of bed days lost

to delayed discharge in psychiatric trusts in October 2016

Ministers say they will be spending 400 million pounds

over the next 4 years, to ensure mental health

teams can provide support to people in their homes.

Oliver Lang helps his father run a small post office in Norfolk. In

2014 the 27-year-old was detained under the Mental Health Act. He

spent several weeks in a psychiatric unit, but even when he was well

enough to leave, he couldn't. Delays in arranging support in the

community meant he spent a further two months unnecessarily in

hospital. I felt like I was in danger in there, because a lot

happens in hospital. Then, I felt like if someone attacks me I'd have

to defend myself. But if I did defend myself and hurt someone,

there'd say he is a danger, so that keep me locked up for longer. I was

trying to be whiter than white. Latest figures show...

The analysis was carried out this former care minister who says

figures show mental health patients are being discriminated against. It

means there's a shortage of community psychiatric nurses, as

shortage of support services like detox facilities, and a shortage in

social care which I think has hit people with mental illness is

disproportionately hard. Ministers say they are spending ?400 million

over the next four years to ensure mental health teams provide more

support to people in their homes. Michael Buchanan, News.

The pressure of patient numbers last month prompted a third of hospital

trusts in England to issue warnings that they needed to take

urgent action to cope, according to analysis seen

In the most serious cases, the Trusts declared

that they were unable to give patients comprehensive care.

The data comes from the health-care think tank, the Nuffield Trust.

A man will appear in court today in connection with a police

operation on the M62 near Huddersfield,

28-year-old Yassar Yaqub died after firearms

officers stopped a car he was in on a motorway slip road.

Moshin Amin, who is 30 and from Dewsbury, has been charged

Stalkers will face longer jail terms under a drive

The maximum sentence in England and Wales will rise

The Ministry of Justice says the plans will help ensure

the punishment reflects the damaging impact stalking has on victims.

A lack of funding to improve forensic science is jeopardising

the integrity of the criminal justice system in England and Wales,

The Forensic Science Regulator says it's also concerned

about the processing of DNA samples taken from suspects

The National Police Chiefs Council says it has secured extra funding

to respond to the challenges faced by the service.

President Barack Obama has described the torture of a mentally

disabled man in Chicago, streamed on Facebook Live,

The four suspects are seen assaulting a man with

special needs while making anti-white racial taunts.

Three teenagers and a woman are due in court today accused of aggravated

The train drivers' union Aslef says it will go ahead with three

days of strike action on the Southern Rail

That's despite a report by the Independent Rail Regulator

claiming that trains with driver-operated doors,

A busy commuter line brought to a standstill in December, when

Southern Rail's drivers and conductors went on strike.

Passengers on the railway between London, Surrey, East Sussex and West

Sussex endured more than two dozen strikes last year. They are in for

more. The drivers union Aslef insists it will go ahead with 324

hour strikes next week... The dispute is about this. Southern

wants its drivers to take over closing the train doors, it's a job

currently done by the on-board guard. The union says its less safe

and threatens jobs in the long run. After a further review the office of

rail and road has confirmed it regards the plans as safe. In light

of that report, Transport Secretary Chris Grayling says the strike

should be called off. He also wants nationwide safety guidelines on the

way trains are dispatched. Aslef disputes the report, and says its

members will walk out next week. If that goes ahead, Southern Rail says

no trains will run on Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday. Members of

Aslef and the RMT are also planning three further strikes later in the

month. Ben Bland, BBC News. Scientists have told the BBC

that a giant iceberg, a quarter the size of Wales is ready

to break off from the Larsen C ice When it does, the iceberg is likely

to be one of the ten Researchers say that this

is a geographical and The Indian actor Om Puri,

who starred in the British comedy East is East,

has died of a suspected He also appeared in other films,

including Gandhi, and more recently he played opposite Dame Helen Mirren

in The Hundred Foot Journey. Some knees just coming in. British

Airways says passengers will be able to fly to their destinations during

a 48 hour strike by cabin crew next Tuesday. Although a small number of

flights will be merged. Staff are striking over pay and conditions.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9:30am.

Let's get some sport now with Hugh, and it's a big

Yes, in fact it's one of the biggest weekends of the football calendar,

it's FA Cup third round weekend with five non-league teams among

those dreaming of a shock to one of football's best sides

as Premier League and Championship teams enter the competition.

The first tie of the round is a good one too, it's live on BBC One

and Radio 5live this evening - it sees a somewhat under

pressure Pep Guardiola, take his Manchester City side

to the London Stadium to face West Ham United.

Guardiola is exceited for his first taste of the competition.

What I hear before, the Cup is special because the lower teams

But of course it is tough, it will be luck of the draw.

A big game for us and a big game for them, the FA Cup.

It is for the fans of course and I am sure they will put a very

strong team tomorrow, because it's a big chance

Some high-profile footballers are heading to China.

The Chinese Super League has picked up another Chelsea player.

Nigeria's Jon Obi Mikel follows former teammate Oscar to China,

In an emotional letter to his "Chelsea family" on social media,

the midfielder thanksed fans for making the "impossible,

He joins a long list of players who have made the move including Carlos

Tevez. And another victory for Andy Murray. Sir Andy Murray is starting

2017 in much the same way he ended 2016, with victory after victory. He

is now into the semifinals at the Qatar open with a win over Nicolas

Duisburg. His second match in a row there was a tie-break in the opening

set and again Murray won it. He took the second is than- five and faces

third seed Tomas Berdych next. Bad news is Johanna Konta. She missed

out on a place in the Shenzhen open final after a shock defeat to world

number 52 Katerina Siniakova. There's going to be a "major

inquiry" into how the police That's according to Yvette Cooper,

who chairs the Home Affairs Select Committee, which looks at how

the governments doing when it She's been speaking to the BBC

after a Newsbeat investigation revealed claims that an increasing

amount of illegal drugs are being Think drug dealer, and you probably

think of a shady character. But as more and more

people buy drugs online... Drugs that people are most likely

to buy on the Dark Net Your postman is unkowingly

becoming a vital link For most people, browsing

the Internet, they will never leave what is called the surface

where but there is a more murky part of the Internet just a few

clicks of the mouse away. Under the surface there are millions

of files full of financial data, photos and other material

that is not publicly accessible. Keep going, and you

arrive in the Dark Web. For a growing number of drug users,

it is the easiest and most reliable I bought marijuana, ecstasy,

2C-B, 2C-1, benzos. A couple of others, AM-22,

psychedelic stimulants... A recent local drug survey found

that in the last year, one in five people who took part had

used drugs bought online. We were waiting for a package

of an ounce of MDMA to be delivered. We see the postman driving down

and get very excited, and then she gives me the package,

and I signed for it. Very happy, and yes,

then we open up the package Me and my friend at the time found

it incredibly funny, she gave us the post and just

had no idea. She handed it over and said

thank you very much, and I looked at her and said no,

thank you very much. Completely unaware of

what had just happened. So, just how easy is it to get hold

of drugs in this way? If you do an investigation

on the Dark Web, you have So, I've come to meet Chris,

who was introduced to me as the person you want to meet

if you want to know what is going on on this murky

part of the Internet. Before meeting Chris,

I bought some Bitcoin, If you go up to this section

here, which says drugs. Click on it, and it looks

like eBay for drugs. It's a crass analogy, but that is

what we've got, isn't it? You would need to have a certain

amount of understanding to be able to operate on here and buy drugs

on here, and generally It is, I compare it to a lot

of people downloading stuff, but their friends teach them how

to do it, and then You think of the Dark Web,

and kids think, this will be a crazy That is not what you expect

to see with a drug dealer? Offline, certainly not,

but online it has become the norm. What is the likelihood of me getting

some, if I order three things today? I would say 98% that

you would get all three. Do you think that is the reason

why this is a growing Absolutely, it gives

you the experience at Amazon and eBay, applying it to drugs

and making it safe. To test the system, I ordered hash,

ecstasy, and synthetic cannabis. We are back in the office and it has

literally taken us a couple of hours to get back,

log back in, and we already One thing with the Dark Web

is that it is quite slow, it takes a long time to load

through, so yes, here we have We have two of the three en route

already, that is about 60, It looks straightforward and normal,

it's easy to forget As the Dark Web becomes

a popular place to buy drugs, inevitably more and more illegal

substances are being But, is this something your average

postman is even aware of? I just wonder if you

have seen anything? I have spent a couple of hours

walking around this area, trying to get postal workers to stop

and chat with us... I wonder if you've ever seen

anything that you posted...? Many did, but did not want to go

on camera as they were worried about losing their jobs potentially

if they speak out. But, we do have comments that they

gave us which I've noted down here. They are quite happy for me to read

them out but not going on camera. One guy has been working

there for 26 years and never seen Another guy, 14 years a postman,

a similar time and he has Parcels get scanned,

yes, I admit that. But how am I to know

what is in a parcel? Another guy says yes,

we definitely suspect the post and it is that weird issue again

of where we can smell the weed but when it is in my mailbag,

we just have to deliver it. We saw a similar response

when we asked the question One said they had handled

a couple of this year Another said that a parcel

was beginning to stink up the office, so it was taken

to the police station. One said that every now and then

we get a special delivery for one of the businesses,

which is full of weed and it Eventually, we did manage

to find one postman who would talk to us,

but only if he could He has come across

drugs in his mailbag. What was in there,

as far as you know? You tell the managers,

and all they say is... If you see the person

it is being delivered to, The Royal Mail told us that it does

not knowingly carry any illegal items on its network,

and says it works closely with police and other

authorities to prevent A few days on, since we put our

orders in on the Dark Web, and it is time to see

if they have turned up. We got them delivered to a PO box,

and asked Jimmy from the office to give us a lift down

to pick them up. This is the post office collection

point, where Jim has had The reason I have headphones

on whilst I am at the wheel is that we are listening while he's

in the queue. I've just had a couple

of text messages from Jim, saying it is taking ages,

slightly paranoid that The woman looked at a pile,

then went off and she has We had three orders we put in,

and I am assuming that all three One ecstasy tablet, which is a blue

pill and there will be a small amount of hash,

cannabis, and there Really, if that came through your

mail if you were a postman, Yes, there is definitely stuff

in there, but it has clearly It is hard with bubble

wrap all around it. But actually, really,

it could be anything in there. It's just an anonymous

looking package. We got three packages but we don't

know what is in them. Thank you for the lift,

see you in a bit... We will take them to a government

approved testing lab. In here, we've got three samples

that we've bought online. We should open them all up

and see if we've got Among the sweets, there

is something wrapped up. That looks like the ecstasy

tablet that we ordered. The same brand and everything

that we thought it was. Which looks very much

like it was in the picture This, we believe, is a blue ecstasy

tablet but the only way to know What we will do is I will hand this

over, and we will do some measurements and then we will take

it into the laboratory A small bit of the pill is crushed,

dissolved and run through a machine. What you are looking for is that

you know where these spikes normally are on the graph and you can compare

that with your database, Yes, I have the retention

time and it then says that your tablet contains MDMA,

ecstasy, which is... The hash has come in a foil wrap,

disguised as tea, and the spice is lose in an envelope,

inside the Jiffy bag. These envelopes will be going

through the post in the millions. Not necessarily with this

kind of stuff in it, quite legitimate post,

but if you get this closely, you can instantly see

that it has been tampered with and there was

something else in it. In theory, it will avoid

smell, to a degree. These got through because there

are millions of these which get through, as I said,

and if the post office opened every package which came through,

we would get our post two or three months after somebody posted it

to us, so they cannot. But it is interesting,

because to me, you may as well have made no effort to do what these

people have done, because if someone was opening these looking

for contraband, they would have The three packages all arrived

as described, but how Dr Adam Winstock runs a global drug

survey where users go The drugs people are most likely

to buy on the Dark Net, cannabis, MDMA, LSD,

cocaine, and novel drugs. In terms of the number of people

buying, we have seen a year-on-year From about 12% of people

who reported either having bought drugs on the Dark Net themselves,

or having drugs bought for them. So, almost 18% last year

and the current global drug survey I expect will show

a further increase. We are seeing the trend

pretty much globally. On Amazon, you get the idea

of people having... Does that happen a lot

on the Dark Web? Absolutely, about a third of people

so that they broaden It's like, we notice that

you like LSD and magic mushrooms... Perhaps you would be

interested in 2-CB? There is absolutely that

effect, but also people who are on the Dark Net are quite

open to looking around What does the global drug survey

tell us about habits Interests on the Dark Web often

reflect the interests of drug In New Zealand, where

it is difficult to get illicit drugs into the country

because of their fantastic biological walls, sniffer dogs

and searching and everything else, very few people use the Dark Net,

I think because of higher operations between the police and Postal

Service. So, there are anomalies

but generally both people reckon that it is safer buying drugs online

and that is where Back in the Newsbeat office, we have

arranged a chat with Jamie Bamford. He is in charge of investigations

and intelligence for Everybody keeps telling us that

New Zealand is leading the way in keeping drugs off the street,

what is your secret? That is nice to hear,

but the way we have approached this problem is that we have taken

an intelligence led approach to it. So, we take a keen

interest in the Dark Net. You think that more

than ever, New Zealanders We have had an increase in smaller

seizures in our post office centres, they have tripled over

a two-year period. We cannot put that down entirely

to the Dark Net, but we think Is it the usual stuff that

you are doing over there? Things like scanners,

and sniffer dogs? Yes, they are hugely effective

in the mail centre setting. They lead to a lot of success

but actually, a lot of intelligence The fact that there has been a big

push by New Zealand to join up all of the agencies and collaborate

together, in order to get that success, these

are a key tool for us. This part of London used to be

home to a lot of shops where you could buy legal highs

or use psychoactive substances. The government says that

their new law to tackle this has meant that these shops

have closed down. But we managed to get these

drugs from the Dark Web, We asked the government to speak

to us, but they declined. They say that they are spending

?1.9 billion over the next five You can see that fall Newsbeat

documentary. Addicts will always find ways of getting drugs. They

will go for the easiest and cheapest way. Anonymous text message says a

worldwide failed war on drugs is to blame, hence why drug dealers

operate on the street. The only logical solution for them not to be

caught is to go online. We will be talking about that later.

After a third of hospital trusts said they had to take urgent action

to cope with patient numbers last month.

We'll have the latest NHS figures covering the festive period.

And you may remember this iconic moment when weather forecaster

Michael Fish failed to predict the great storm of 1987.

Earlier on today, apparently a woman rang the

BBC saying that she had heard that there was

Well, if you are watching, don't worry.

Well, a leading Bank of England economist has admitted the bank had

what he calls "a Michael Fish moment" over its gloomy predictions

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

Donald Trump's doubts over the judgement of America's

intelligence chiefs has been attacked as "absolutely mindless"

by the outgoing US vice president Joe Biden.

The President-elect, is due to meet intelligence chiefs today,

to discuss their claims that Russia tried to interfere in the American

Mr Trump's been facing renewed criticism from senior Republicans

and Democrats about his scepticism, and less than 24 hours before

the meeting, one of his top intelligence advisers quit his team.

The failure to predict the financial crisis of 2008 was a "Michael Fish"

moment for economists, the Bank of England's

Andy Haldane compared financial forecasts to the famously inaccurate

reassurances given by the BBC weatherman ahead of the UK's

Mr Haldane said the profession was "to some degree in crisis"

following the crash and the Brexit vote.

Delays in discharging people from hospital are rising more

rapidly in mental health trusts than other parts of the NHS

NHS England data found a 56% rise in the number of bed days lost

to delayed discharge in psychiatric trusts in October 2016

Ministers said they will be spending ?400 million to ensure mental health

teams can provide support to people in their homes.

A man will appear in court today in connection with a police

operation on the M62 near Huddersfield,

28-year-old Yassar Yaqub died after firearms

officers stopped a car he was in on a motorway slip road.

Moshin Amin, who is 30 and from Dewsbury, has been charged

British Airways says customers will be able to fly to their destinations

during a 48-hour strike by cabin crew next Tuesday although a small

number of flights will be merged. Members of Unite have rejected the

latest pay offer and will walk out for 48 hours from Tuesday. The

Indian actor Om Puri has died of a suspected heart attack. Om Puri also

appeared in Gandhi and recently played opposite Dame Helen Mirren.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.00am.

We have some breaking news about Russia's role in Syria. According to

the APA news agency in Moscow, Russia says it is withdrawing its

aircraft carrier and other warships from the waters of Syria as the

first step in drawing down forces in Syria. The Russian General staff

chief has said the carrier and accompanying ships will be the first

to leave. He was quoted as saying that in accordance with President

Vladimir Putin the Defence Ministry is starting to downsize Armed Forces

in Syria. Those reports coming through. We will keep you updated.

A big weekend of FA Cup ties coming up -

32 matches in all in the third round.

The action starts tonight when Pep Guardiola's Manchester City

For City manager Pep Guardiola, it's a new experience,

he's never been involved in the Cup before and he's looking forward

to what he describes as a special match tonight.

Another Premier League player is moving to the Chinese Super League -

Chelsea's John Obi Mikel is joining He'll join Tianjin Teda.

Mikel joins other high profile names in making the move -

including former Chelsea team-mate Oscar.

Sir Andy Murray is through to the last four of the Qatar Open.

The World Number One beat Spain's Nicolas Almagro in straight

sets to set up a semifinal with third seed Tomas Berdych.

Top seed Johanna Konta missed out on a place in the final

The British Number One was shocked by Czech world number 52

New research shows that more and more people are being kept

in mental health wards long after they are well

Delays in discharging people are increasing more rapidly

in mental health trusts than in other parts of the NHS

in England, according to analysis by the Liberal Democrats

A delayed discharge occurs when a patient is declared medically

well enough to leave hospital but something else

Well last year it was estimated that delayed discharges cost the NHS

Now today's figures show for the year ending last October,

the number of people kept in hospital longer than they needed

to rose by up to 30% in acute trusts in England,

that's in normal hospitals. But in mental health and learning

disability units the increase Look at the figures for one

month alone, last July. Where nearly 4% of all mental health

bed spaces were occupied by people who were medically well enough

to be sent home. Of more than 640,000 bed places that

were occupied in that month, almost 25,000 were taken up

because of delayed discharges. We can speak now to

Dr Jonathan Bindman, medical director of Barnet,

Enfield and Haringey Mental Health NHS Trust, and Sophie Corlett

from the mental health charity MIND, and in Norwich is Oliver Lang

who was kept in a secure ward for four months after he should

have been released. Oliver, tell us what happened.

Basically I was sectioned to a medium security unit. Two or three

months later I had a tribunal where the doctor and judge and panel

agreed I should be discharged. They gave me a maximum of two months to

ditched charge me. They had a care home setup and everything was ready

-- to discharge me. Two trusts were arguing over who would fund my care

and as a result I was kept in hospital longer. It took four months

longer than it should have done in the end. After the original decision

it was six months in total? Yeah. Knowing you had been cleared for

release and you couldn't get out, how did you feel? It was quite

scary. It makes you think, it puts things in perspective. You think,

there are these people with so much power and nobody bats an eyelid when

they keep you locked up. It must have been very frustrating. It was.

It's quite a dangerous place to be. I didn't feel safe there. It wasn't

very nice. What sort of conversations where you having with

people? When I was allowed to use the phone at designated times, I

kept ringing round my social worker, my solicitor, my dad was running

around heads of funding panels as well. They were sending us round in

circles. Everyone was saying, why are you worried, I said, I'm the one

locked up, I need to keep my nose clean every day, it's hard. It all

boiled down to a row over who would fund what would happen after you

left? Yeah. Sophie, you work with Mind. How often is this happening?

Is happening quite a lot. Oliver's story is shocking. You've just said

the financial cost but the personal cost to somebody. In Oliver's case,

he wasn't just on a board, he was on a locked ward. You wouldn't keep

somebody in prison for six months beyond what they needed to be. Even

if that only happened once in the whole country, it would be a really

shocking thing. But it is happening a lot. Not just one locked wards but

all sorts of wards. It stops people's recovery and has a real

impact on their lives. Is it better people are kept in longer than they

should be rather than released without somewhere that is

appropriate for them? People need to have somewhere appropriate to go,

that is the issue. There aren't the community services available. We

know that one of the most dangerous and fragile times for people is when

they first come out of hospital. That first seven days, two weeks,

where they need to be really well supported. It's a very high suicide

risk for people in the early release time. It's definitely important that

you don't just send people out to nothing. People may have been in

hospital for quite a long time, they may have lost their accommodation

and have literally nowhere to go. Housing can often have to be

arranged. It's very important but is set up. How much of an issue is it

in the area where you are in Barnet, Enfield and Haringey mental health

trust? It is absolutely an issue and the overall figure quoted was 3.8%

of birds are filled at any one time by people who could leave hospital.

In London it's more typically 6%. 6% of all of our beds at any one time

are filled with people who could go tomorrow if suitable places were

available. Obviously what it means is that new people cannot come into

the system. Yes, absolutely. It's really important to see the figure

is just one symptom of a whole system that is under enormous strain

at the front end, at the point of admission as well as the point of

discharge. And also all the other parts of the system, including the

places people live, supported accommodation. It boils down to

financial issues and they aren't enough spaces elsewhere for people

to go to. How would you define that? It's not just a matter of the

finances overall, it's a question of where the money is and where the

resources are. I feel that we can take great pride in the mental

health system but over the last 30 years we have successfully managed

to greatly reduce the number of beds. I'm not suggesting we need to

start increasing the number, it's all about the alternatives that are

available. I think we need much more resource in the community, in

supported accommodation of all types, but also things that support

people to do meaningful activities. Things with their time. A whole

range of social care support. Talking about the money, the delayed

discharge is estimated to cost the NHS ?820 million a year which is

obviously money that could be spent effectively elsewhere. Why doesn't

that happen? Well, that is obviously an enormously complicated question.

I think from our perspective, the thing that would be most helpful

would be better joining up between decommissioning of the health

services and the commissioning of the social services. I think that's

something that is recognised throughout the system, that

reductions in social care funding are having an enormous impact on the

NHS. That social care funding has gone down more sharply than NHS

funding, and being unable to get people out of beds into suitable

places in the community is one of the ways in which social care

funding pressures impact on the NHS. Oliver, we are talking about the

fact that when people can't get out which was the situation you were in,

it impacts on people trying to get the help they need. Have you

struggle to get the help at the other end? The care home I've gone

too is quite a good one, I can't really fault it. With me, they

talked about places not being available. With me it came down to

funding because I had a care home available. I agree with what the

gentleman said that they need to put more money into things in the

community. I agree with that, that would be nice, to have, there are

plenty of places. There seem to be waiting lists for some of them, it's

not as easy to get involved in things as you would think. Sophie,

the same things are coming up again and again when we talk about mental

health services and the issue of resources. Is it something that is

properly being looked at? Do you expect there will be change? I do

expect there to be change. Partly because I think people now have

woken up to the fact there needs to be change. What I think we are

seeing is a massive delay in that happening on the ground. Nationally

we've agreed there's something called parity of esteem, which means

mental health and physical health services should be treated equally.

There has been recognition of that in the funding being put aside. But

to make that happen, actually in a local area and make a difference to

somebody, there is 1000 different decisions that need to be made by

people at every level. Right down to the people who make decisions

between are we spending on a bed to somebody in a secure unit very

expensively, or on an addiction service or a supported housing

service, actually much less expensively. Who makes those

decisions down the line? It's that which we still haven't seen change

and which really needs to change if we are going to make a difference

for the many hundreds of people like Oliver who get stuck in the system.

I just want to read out a text from someone who said "Mental health

community support is minimal. How is a 24-year-old CBT Council are meant

to help a 50-year-old previously well respected man now crippled with

long-term depression? " please let us know your thoughts on

that. Coming up, Donald Trump is told

to "grow up" by the outgoing US vice-president ahead of a meeting

with intelligence chiefs to discuss claims that

Russia tried to interfere in the American

presidential election. The Bank of England's chief

economist has said the failure to predict the financial crisis

was a "Michael Fish" Andy Haldane compared financial

forecasts to the famously inaccurate forecast by the BBC weatherman,

ahead of the UK's He said the profession

was "to some degree in crisis" following the 2008-9 crash

and the Brexit vote. Well let's remind ourselves of that

iconic moment in 1987 when Michael Fish failed to predict

the great storm. Earlier on today, apparently a woman

rang the BBC saying that she had heard that there was a hurricane

on the way. Well, if you are watching -

don't worry. But having said that actually,

the weather will become very windy, but most of the strong winds

incidentally will be down over Spain, and across

into France as well. There's a vicious looking area

of low pressure on our doorstep, nevertheless around the Brittany

area, which will head across Bringing, if nothing else,

a lot of rain with it. Oh dear, who can forget that? Let's

take a look at some of the panicked headlines economic forecasts can

prompt. To find out more about why these predictions are so hard to get

right I'm joined by Kamal Ahmed. The two most significant moments

economically in recent years are being described as "Michael Fish"

moments. There, be laughed off, can they go?

What happened cause devastation across the south-east of England.

The chief economist of the Bank of England was honest about what

economic forecasts are trying to do. They are trying to make a judgment

on human behaviour. They try to make those judgments when the data does

not exist. I think he was talking about, when he talked about the

Michael Fish moment, you must talking about the financial crisis

and the forecast made then didn't understand the depth of the action

of the world economy to the collapse of a Liman 's bank and other banks

in 2008, The Royal Bank of Scotland of course, being another. They

undercut the effect. When it comes to Brexit, although the Bank of

England was correct on some things, like the fall in value of sterling

work, which did happen after the Brexit vote, it did overcome the

reaction. There is a assumption in the forecast that consumers would

become nervous and stop spending. Consumers are a huge and important

part of growth in the UK, but consumers have stayed pretty

confident. It might surprise the media, Brexit isn't the most

important thing when it comes to people buying and selling things in

the economy. We have low interest rates, incomes are rising slowly,

high levels of employment. Consumers are feeling good at the moment.

Brexit hasn't happened and Andy Haldane made the point that nothing

has changed. Until Britain leads the European Union at the two-year

Article 50 process, the fact is, at the moment consumers are feeling

good. Do we just ignore forecasts in the future? No, what Andy Haldane

was saying, as meteorology learned from the Michael Fish moment, it

studied things in more detail and got better at modelling weather

patterns, Andy Haldane said economist had to learn from that,

use the data in a more sophisticated way. When you have shock events like

the financial crisis and the Brexit vote, forecasting has to change to

understand what those events mean. These are events, you don't know

what will happen because the fact is, they are unique. And that is the

big problem for economic forecasting. We have a duty, I know

I tried to do this, before the referendum, to say they are only

forecasts, these things could happen. What happens in a political

environment in a referendum campaign, a lot of politicians said

these things will happen. It is a different thing. We are always

grasping for certainty? We are, Andy Haldane said these forecasts are

useful to try and project where these things will go, but just like

weather forecasts, they can be wrong.

Coming up, leading Indian actor Om Puri, star of the hit film East

We will have tributes to him. But first today...

Today, President-elect Donald Trump is due to see the evidence,

upon which claims have been made that Russia launched cyber

attacks on Democrats during November's US Election.

It comes after top US intelligence officials gave testimony to

the Senate Armed Services Committee, which is investigating

The unclassified version will be made public next week,

Director of National Intelligence, General James Clapper has already

said Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the hack

of Democratic Party emails, and the motive will be

But he's stopped short of calling it "an act of war."

Well basically that Russia interfered to help Mr Trump

to his surprise election win over Hillary Clinton.

Donald Trump's praised Mr Putin in the past,

and his choice for Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has a history

Here's what the out-going Vice President, Joe Biden,

had to say about Mr Trump's lack of faith in the US

Not to be prepared to listen to the myriad intelligence agencies from

the defence agencies and the CIA, is absolutely mindless. It is just

mindless. Can you disagree? Can you ask for more detail? Can you

question, whether or not there is a disagreement among the various

intelligence agencies, that is all legitimate. But the idea that you no

more than the intelligence community knows... It is like saying I know

more about physics than my professor, I didn't read the book, I

just know I read more. Let's discuss this with our guest.

What do you think about what he has been saying? Joe Biden has a good

way of making things simple. Some people think he would have beaten

Donald Trump had he chosen to run. The point is well taken. There is a

bizarre love and admiration between Dolman Tromp and Vladimir Putin, no

one can quite explain it. There is a willingness from Trump, who

obviously won the election by calling into question, the

complacency of the elites. He is doing the same with the intelligence

community. Part of him, has this desire to make trouble and part of

him is this desire to defend his victory, because part of the

accusation is that the Russians intervened to help him win the

election and to defeat Hillary Clinton. Part of what becomes is a

partisan battle, again a very divided country, Republicans against

Democrats. Democrats will feel the election was taken from them.

Possibly with Russian meddling and help. The Republicans want to make

sure there is no stain on this victory. At least, that is what

Trump wants. Republican senators, people like John McCain, who have a

long history about being tough about Russia and the Russian annexation of

Crimea and Russian meddling are very upset with their President-elect.

What is wrong with somebody voicing what Mike Pence has described as

healthy scepticism, not taking it as face value. How much have they seen

of the intelligence yet? The interesting about Trump, he wants to

keep the distance between himself and what the intelligence people are

saying. So this will be the first time he will have had any proper

briefing on this? On this particular issue, there is a classified

briefing that President Obama got yesterday and that Trump will get

today and there will be declassified version that out next week. In terms

of what we do understand from some of our reporting and reporting for

others, they have intercepted messages of congratulations among

Russian leaders about what happened. There is an implicit sense they knew

what was going on. The intelligence chief who testified yesterday, James

Klapper, tried to make the distinction between normal spying,

which is what we all do, which is intelligence gathering and meddling

in elections and meddling in the political process, that in the

United States, simply to our knowledge, hasn't happened before.

He said it continues. He is trying to say scepticism is fine, but

disparaging the work of the intelligence community is deeply

damaging to our national interests. Thank you very much.

The Indian actor, Om Puri, who starred in the British

comedy East is East, has died of a suspected

Om Puri, who acted in both mainstream and art films,

was known for his gritty performances in a number of landmark

He also appeared in a number of British films, including a cameo

in Richard Attenborough's epic on Mahatma Gandhi, and,

more recently, he played opposite Dame Helen Mirren

Slowdown. Stop! Stir things up. I want to buy this restaurant. This is

private property. Do you own this property? No, no. That means you are

just passing through. The President of France lines there. People don't

eat those things. They have never tried. My son is the best Indian

chef in Europe. Raise your hand, don't be shy. Begin! Is it a wedding

party over there? A funeral. The death of good taste. If your food is

anything like your music, I suggest you turn it down. I will turn it

down, but I will turn the heat up. Let's speak to the former East End

as actor who starred alongside him in a number of productions. When you

are 13, you saw him on the big screen and he had a massive impact?

He did. It was a rare occasion when my family went to see a British film

in the Midlands. It was Richard Attenborough's Gandhi. As a

teenager, I kind of had to sit there through the lecture of India's

history and then the scene in the film, which was astonishing, was a

tiny little scene, it was a cameo and it had such a huge impact on me.

I have never forgot it. Years later, it turned out to be Om Puri. After

that, I had the honour of working with him twice on projects. I did

tell him that story. What was it about that moment and him that

connected with you as a 13-year-old boy? It is very profound. The memory

of that experience of watching an actor storming into a scene. It was

so powerful, so full of energy and so truthful, I had never seen

anything like it. It stuck with me. It stuck with me. It had such a

profound effect, it had a big influence on what I wanted to

achieve as an actor. When you came to meet him and act alongside him,

you told him that story, what was he like? He was great. Om Puri, he has

got a very angry resting face. But when he breaks out into a smile, the

room lights up. He is a very gentle man and full of humour. Completely

took me under his wing. I loved working with him. We were

side-by-side, working as equals. His only regret with me is that I wasn't

Punjabi enough for him. I remember one day, I said I fancy some Indian

food. His wife had just come over from India and cook. There it was on

the set the next day. He said, my wife cooked for you. He was lovely,

made every experience like a family gathering, eat, drink, work and be

happy. A couple of weeks ago he tweeted about his life and career.

He said I don't have any regrets, I have done well for my self. I didn't

have a conventional phase, but I am proud of what I have done.

Absolutely, both Hollywood and Bollywood have a criteria where you

have to be handsome and have a great set of teeth, but Om Puri broke that

completely, he was your archetypal heart-throb. His career was huge. He

has done hundreds of films. But he brought truth to what could be a

very shallow industry and gravitas that nobody can match. It was a

great honour for me to work with him. He is also one of these guys

who hasn't managed to work in Britain, worked in Hollywood

alongside Tom Hanks and Helen Mirren, as you have shown. But it

all boils down to the truth and power of his acting. Thank you very

much. My pleasure. Abba at the moment there is a

contrast across the UK. Minus six this morning across the country. 15

degrees warmer towards Northern Ireland and 15 degrees warmer than

it was this time yesterday. It is the warmer air that takes over this

weekend. But there is cloud and outbreaks of rain. It is heavy

across eastern Northern Ireland and it will be into England and Wales

and Scotland. After an icy start towards East Anglia, it stays cold

all day, but you should see sunshine. Not quite the blue skies

of yesterday. The temperature contrasts continue. Tonight, milder

air pushes southwards after rain in East Anglia and the South East.

Misty and damp throughout the night across the South. Spot of those

elsewhere and misty over the hills. Clear skies will be in northern

Scotland and here, a touch of frost into the weekend. But this is where

you see the best of the sunshine. Lots of cloud around on Saturday,

brighter breaks will come and go but morning rain and drizzle in the

south. Many of you will spend the afternoon dry and across southern

area is a good deal milder than it will be today. Chilly across the

north-east of Scotland, where again there could be of frost to go into

Sunday. Sunday, another dry and reasonably sunny day. Right across

eastern part of England. It does stay cloudy for most with spots of

rain and drizzle in the West and temperatures higher than they should

be. Warmer than it has been, peaking at 11 degrees in the south-west of

England. Whilst we get milder this weekend, it gets colder to the east

of Europe. Athens, barely above freezing on Sunday. Moscow, a high

of -25 degrees. Too cold for me. Hello, I'm Joanna Gosling

in for Victoria Derbyshire. Postal workers are delivering drugs

bought on the so-called dark web, unaware of what they are handing

over and with few checks. A major inquiry is promised into

the changing nature of cyber crime. And more people than ever

with mental health problems are being kept in hospitals

for longer than necessary because of problems finding care

for them when they leave. We talk to a man who says he felt

like he'd been kidnapped after being kept on a secure ward

unnecessarily for months. It puts things in perspective. There

are people with so much power and they can keep you locked up, no one

bats an eyelid. One of London's most iconic

nightclubs which reopens its doors again this weekend with tough

security and zero tolerance Now, let's get a summary of the news

from the BBC Newsroom. Donald Trump's doubts over

the judgement of America's intelligence chiefs has been

attacked as "absolutely mindless" by the outgoing US vice

president Joe Biden. The President-elect is due to meet

intelligence chiefs today, to discuss their claims that Russia

tried to interfere in the American Mr Trump's been facing renewed

criticism from senior Republicans and Democrats about his scepticism,

and less than 24-hours before the meeting, one of his top

intelligence advisers quit his team. Russia says it is withdrawing

its aircraft carrier and some other warships from the waters off Syria

as the first step in drawing Moscow has been a key supporter

of Syrian President Bashar Assad's government and forces in the Mideast

country's devastating civil war. Russian General Staff chief

Valery Gerasimov said that the Admiral Kuznetsov carrier

and accompanying ships New figures from NHS England showed

slightly fewer patients attended AMD departments between Christmas and

New Year as compared to earlier in December. The total was just over

370,000. The run-up to Christmas itself also quieter.

Delays in discharging people from hospital are rising more

rapidly in mental health trusts than other parts of the NHS

NHS England data found a 56% rise in the number of bed days lost

to delayed discharge in psychiatric trusts in October 2016

Ministers said they will be spending ?400 million to ensure mental health

teams can provide support to people in their homes.

A man will appear in court today in connection with a police

operation on the M62 near Huddersfield,

28 year-old Yassar Yaqub died after firearms

officers stopped a car he was in on a motorway slip road.

Moshin Amin, who is 30 and from Dewsbury, has been charged

Chris Grayling is urging Southern Rail staff to suspend industrial

action, saying there is no safety excuse for it to continue.

The train drivers' union Aslef says it will go ahead with three

days of strike action on the Southern Rail

That's despite a report by the Independent Rail Regulator

claiming that trains with driver-operated doors,

British Airways says customers will be able to fly to their destinations

during a 48-hour strike by cabin crew next Tuesday although a small

number of flights will be merged. Members of Unite will walk out for

48 hours next Tuesday. The failure to predict the financial

crisis of 2008 was a "Michael Fish" moment for economists,

the Bank of England's Andy Haldane compared financial

forecasts to the famously inaccurate reassurances given by the BBC

weatherman ahead of the UK's Mr Haldane said the profession

was "to some degree in crisis" following the crash

and the Brexit vote. The Indian actor, Om Puri,

who starred in the British comedy East is East has died

of a suspected heart attack. Om Puri also appeared in other

films, including Gandhi, and more recently he played opposite

Dame Helen Mirren in That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10:30am. Lots of you are reacting to the news

that more people than ever with mental health problems are being

kept in hospital for longer than necessary because of difficulties

finding somewhere for them to go once it has been agreed they can be

discharged. One viewer has said, hospital social services and

computer systems aren't compatible soap assessments are lost, repeated

not clear. Another says, reduce the number of beds, no saved money is

reinvested. Andy has tweeted to say, I work in mental health support,

funding cut every year and every time they announce extra funding

they've vulnerable you find it isn't really new.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

It's one of the biggest weekends of the football calendar,

it's FA Cup third round weekend, the point where Premier League

and Championship teams enter the competition.

The first tie of the is live on BBC One and this evening,

and sees Manchester City visit the London Stadium to

City boss Pep Guardiola is excited for his first taste of the Cup.

What I hear here before is the cup is special because the lower teams

can beat the big teams. That's why it's so fascinating. It can happen

in the cup as well and that's why I'm looking forward to it. Of course

the Premier League game will be tough.

A big game for us, the big game for them. It is FA Cup. Big game for

both clubs. It is for the fans of course. I'm sure there are going to

again put very strong teams. Following the likes to Carlos Tevez,

Demba Ba and Oscar, the Chinese Super League has picked

up another high profile player. Nigeria's Jon Obi Mikel

follows former Chelsea teammate Oscar to China,

joining Tianjin Teda FC. In an emotional letter to his

"Chelsea family" on social media, the midfielder thanked fans

for making the "impossible, Sir Andy Murray is starting 2017,

much in the same way he ended 2016 - He's now into the semifinals

of the Qatar Open with a win over For his second match in a row

there was a tiebreak in the opening He took the second 7-5, and faces

third seed Tomas Berdych next. Bad news for Johanna Konta though,

she missed out on a place in the Shenzhen Open final

after a shock defeat to Czech world And that's all the sport

for now, I'll be back There's going to be a "major

inquiry" into how the police That's according to Yvette Cooper,

who chairs the Home Affairs Select Committee, which looks at how

the governments doing when it She's been speaking to the BBC

after a Newsbeat investigation revealed claims that an increasing

amount of illegal drugs are being It's an illegal trade

worth millions, and it means your local postman could,

unwittingly, be delivering drugs More and more people are buying

drugs on the Dark Web, Are the final point

in the drug dealing chain. You tell the managers,

and all they say is, If you see the person

it is delivered to, just tell He is not alone in telling us

that he has had suspicious We've been on forums

used by postal workers, and heard the same stories

of parcels which smell We spent a few hours outside of one

of the largest sorting offices But, none of them would speak

on camera, for fear The Royal Mail told us that it does

not knowingly carry any illegal But getting drugs online

is becoming more popular, He would only speak to us

if we protected his identity. It was cheaper, and you

had a smaller chance Me and my friend have found it

incredibly funny how she hands it over to us and says,

thank you very much. I looked at her and went "No,

thank you very much". She walked off, completely

unaware that she was part This part of London used to be

home to a lot of shops where you could buy legal highs

or use psychoactive substances. The government says its new laws

to tackle this has meant that But, we managed to get these

drugs on the Dark Web, We asked the government

to come on and speak to us They say that they are spending

?1.9 billion over the next five So, how easy was it to buy those

drugs on the Dark Web? We've come to meet Chris,

an independent security Everything about it is pretty much

like eBay, except it looks Yes, the technology is not

as mature, but you are seeing an anonymous website which is hard

to track down indeed. At the end of the session,

we bought three different drugs. Ecstasy, some marijuana, and

synthetic cannabis, known as spice. It is taken out of your

wallet, and then... A few days later, all

three parcels arrived. We took them to this government

approved testing lab... There is no way that every single

item could be opened. There would be backlogs

upon backlogs. So, they are trained on things

that look suspicious. It may have only been three samples,

that the testing proved that everything we bought on the Dark Web

was as described. Raising the question, what needs to

be done to stop this deadly trade? Police and authorities need to keep

up with new technology. It isn't easy but the police can't do it

alone. They've got to be able to collaborate with other organisations

including customs, the postal service, and learn from what other

countries are doing. She says more can be done but how will the

authorities tackle a global issue where every time an online

marketplaces shut down, another pops up to replace it?

Let's talk now to Jamie Bartlett, who's from the Centre

for the Analysis of Social Media at the think tank Demos

and author of The Dark Net: Inside the Digital Underworld

and Dr Adam Winstock is a consultant psychiatrist and founder

of the Global Drugs Survey, the biggest drugs

Thank you for joining us. You've been looking into what's been going

on on the dark web for some time, how much drug dealing is going on,

what is the proportion happening there? It's quite difficult to tell

because it's quite secretive place, but there are dozens of sites like

ones we've just seen which offer an Amazon or eBay style service selling

drugs. From hundreds, maybe thousands of fenders. In terms of

the actual amount, I think it's tens, maybe hundreds of millions of

pounds a year. That's got to be put into context. The global drugs trade

offline is far bigger than that. I think we're going to hear from the

global drug survey, we found one in five users have purchased drugs from

the dark web. It doesn't mean they've use them themselves of

course. I think that's going to grow because people are attracted to,

frankly, what is for many users a better offer online and they can get

offline. They don't have to go somewhere that feels dodgy... Dodgy

street corners. It is still dangerous but you aren't out on the

streets. Because it's a competitive market, a lot of users reported

better quality products. Fenders are competing with each other for your

custom -- fenders. Quality goes up and price goes down. Adam, you are

the founder of the global drugs survey, that some figures on this in

terms of the scale. We've been tracking this for the last five

years, and it has increased year on year. I think one of the interesting

things is those countries that have got some of the highest interest in

buying drugs on the dark net are those with the most punitive drug

regimes. Countries such as Sweden and Norway. In countries like

Australia, America, the UK, the attraction of a broader range of

drugs delivered to your door with the possibility of better quality is

going to make those marketplaces increasingly popular. Is it roaring

in people who previously might not have touched drugs at all or is it

changing the way people who would have done it anyway go about getting

them? -- drawing in people. It is those people who are already

involved in using illicit drugs. We might draw people back into using

illicit drugs who lost contact with street dealers. One thing we are

seeing, about a third of users are increasing their drug using

repertoire. LSD and other drugs, perhaps you would like DMT? There is

the possibility of people are expanding their repertoire. Jamie,

you describe it as Amazon or eBay. Hurdles have to be crossed to get

into this part of the web, but it is not that difficult to do, as we have

seen. Why does it not translate into the security services, intelligence

agencies being able to crack down on it? It isn't as difficult as people

imagine to get onto this part of the Internet. But it is difficult for

the authorities to know what people are doing when they are there. You

have powerful encryption which means people on their keep their IP

address obscure or hidden. The sites themselves are difficult to remove

entirely from the nets. That sounds almost impossible, but the way

modern encryption works, in fact it is a relatively secure place. The

difficulty is, I think for the authorities, although they are

trying much more now than they were a few years ago to undermine these

markets and infiltrate these markets, in an old-fashioned

policing sense, they don't want to destroy the entire network. Because

the encryption on which the dark net depends, is valuable for

whistle-blowers and journalists and for human rights activists around

the world. This dark net has an important social function as well.

It is unfortunate it is always going to be, as has always been the case,

used by people for criminal purposes as well as for good. Adam, is much

being done to crack down on the drug dealing online, have there been many

arrests of people dealing or people buying? It is incredibly difficult

for the police to identify who is buying drugs online and whether or

not it is the best investment of their time. Where we need to spend

more time is thinking what the impact is having better access to

drugs online and the global drug survey is looking exactly how the

dark net access is altering people's drug use. It may not always be for

harmful effects. You could see some benefits could come out of it. There

was a doctor, -- as a doctor I worry it could develop somebody's drug use

and also develop better products. The police say they will spend more

money on cyber crime over the next five years. How best will the money

be spent? You cite the example of what has happened in New Zealand as

a way of potentially looking at these issues? New Zealand benefits

from having secure borders and a relatively small population. The

amount of postal traffic is relatively little compared to the

UK. There is good collaboration between Customs, the police and the

postal services. Trying to replicate that in the UK with a population

that is ten times the size, it is going to be really difficult. It is

a good opportunity for the government to start thinking about

other ways of producing drug-related harm, or just banning them. We have

to educate people about the risks, but also how to use them more

safely. It is something we have to look at more carefully. Jamie, in

the report we heard how the post people delivering these parcels

sometimes know what is in them because they can smell it. But it

seems not much is being done to actually clamp down on it. Why

aren't there sniffer dogs? It is so difficult to do. If you look at it,

there is something like a billion pieces of mail delivered every year

by the Royal Mail. A fraction of that will be illegal drugs. So spot

testing and random checks will not pick up on everything. As you saw,

you can hear some pills in a bottle, but you don't know if they are

illegal or not. The truth is, people who are selling these drugs are

very, very good at hiding them. They are obscured or hidden within junk

mail. Inside sweet packets and aerosol cans which make it difficult

for the sniffer dogs and anyone else to guess what they are. Even though,

yes, the postal service is sometimes delivering drugs, it is unfair to

criticise them for it because it is so difficult for them to know. Thank

you both. Gavin has treated, complete overhaul of the UK drug

laws is needed. A tweet from Hannah says, drugs need to be legalised and

regulated. People will never stop using them, let's make it safe and

tax it. A tweet said prohibition is a problem. The only answer is to

legalise and regulate drugs. Anything else is a fight that cannot

be won. And you can see that full

Newsbeat documentary Drugs A police force is trying a new

approach to bring in a burglary suspect who has been evading

officers. We will be talking about that in a few moments.

The funeral of the man who was killed during a police

operation in West Yorkshire on Monday is taking place

28-year-old Yassar Yaqub, was shot when police stopped

a car near junction 24 of the M62 on Monday.

The inquest found the provisional cause of death was gunshot wound to

the chest. Another man is appearing

court in Dewsbury today, Joining me now from Huddersfield

is our correspondent, Judith Moritz. Judith, bring us up today with the

latest in this investigation. Several different elements this

morning to tell you about. The funeral here which took place a

short time ago. Hundreds of mourners filled the mosque behind me and

poured into the street as well. There were so many, they could not

all fit inside. As the coffin of Yassar Yaqub was brought up the

street, inside the mosque for a short time, about half an hour or

so, then a few minutes ago he was taken away for burial. His family

followed the Coffin. His mother's distress was audible. That service

is happening now away from here. Elsewhere, there has been the

inquest into the death of Yassar Yaqub. That was opened and adjourned

this morning. Just a three-minute hearing. The coroner in that case

will hear it more fully in March. It has been adjourned until the 31st of

March. The details that did emerge this morning, Yassar Yaqub,

28-year-old, he is single, his profession was given as an office

clerk. The inquest found his provisional cause of death was

gunshot wounds to the chest. And also the hearing heard a firearm was

recovered from the front passenger foot well of the car in which Yassar

Yaqub was travelling on Monday night, when he was shot by West

Yorkshire Police. That inquest was opened and adjourned. Elsewhere in

Yorkshire, this morning a court appearance is due at Leeds

Magistrates' Court. That will be the first appearance of Moshin Amin, who

was charged with firearms offences in connection with this case. We

expected to be a relatively short hearing. Thing is getting underway

in terms of the judicial process. The Independent Police Complaints

Commission which is investigating this separately, that continues. We

are yet to hear from them, any update today. But there is different

things happening but the focus for the family of Yassar Yaqub, who have

spoken to the media and also friends of his who spoke to us this morning,

their focus is about paying tribute to him and morning for someone they

say was very well loved in his community and will be sadly missed.

One friend of Yassar Yaqub, should tell you, in the last few minutes

told reporters, they feel this case bears similarities to that of Mark

Duggan, the man who was shot in Tottenham in London by police in

2011. Those similarities have been drawn by the family and friends of

Yassar Yaqub today. Thank you, Judith.

Russia says its withdrawing its aircraft carrier and some other

warships from the waters off Syria as the first step in drawing down

According to the state news agency, the defence ministry is starting

to downsize armed forces in Syria in light of the recent ceasefire.

It follows a major battle during which the Russian backed

Syrian regime reclaimed the city of Aleppo.

I'm joined by Famil Ismailov from the BBC Russia service.

Thanks for coming in. Does this indicate they think, job done? The

first question was asked, what was the job of the aircraft carrier?

Also, the major battle cruiser, which was nuclear powered, they were

sent to the area. But the question is asked because the aircraft

carrier was shown later on, was not technically prepared to join the

battle in Syria. It lost two aeroplanes, within probably a couple

of weeks, within a month. The questions were asked, was it ready

to go? If you look at the screen behind you, there is black smoke

coming out of the carrier. That is not what is supposed to happen. Not

how the aircraft carrier should be seen. But all the way it was coming

from its base to the Mediterranean, it would show the engine was

probably faulty. Russia has played a very active role in Syria, what

capability remains, what is likely to happen now? After the naval group

will leave, we will see attempts by Russian and Turkish diplomats and

military to hold the ceasefire in the main battlefields in Syria. We

have seen some clashes near Damascus and clashes in other places, but

generally the ceasefire is holding. The question is, how long will it

hold and how will a transfer into the negotiations which are expected

to start on the 23rd of June in Kazakhstan. Thank you very much.

Still to come... Clubbers will be able to return to Fabric, with a

zero drugs policy. With the news, here's Anita McVeigh

in the BBC Newsroom. Donald Trump's doubts over

the judgement of America's intelligence chiefs has been

attacked as "absolutely mindless" by the outgoing US vice

president Joe Biden. The President-elect, is due to meet

intelligence chiefs today, to discuss their claims that Russia

tried to interfere in the American Mr Trump's been facing renewed

criticism from senior Republicans and Democrats about his scepticism,

and less than 24-hours before the meeting, one of his top

intelligence advisers quit his team. Russia says it is withdrawing

its aircraft carrier and some other warships from the waters off Syria

as the first step in drawing Moscow has been a key supporter

of Syrian President Bashar Assad's government and forces in the Mideast

country's devastating civil war. Russian General Staff chief

Valery Gerasimov said that the Admiral Kuznetsov carrier

and accompanying ships New figures from NHS England show

slightly fewer patients attended accident and emergency departments

in England the week between Christmas and New Year,

as compared to earlier in December. And the run up to Christmas itself

was also quieter, the figures show. A man will appear in court today

in connection with a police operation on the M62

near Huddersfield, 28-year-old Yassar Yaqub

died after firearms officers stopped a car

he was in on a motorway slip road. Moshin Amin, who is 30

and from Dewsbury, has been charged The Transport Secretary Chris

Grayling is urging Southern Rail staff to suspend their industrial

action, saying there's no "safety The train drivers' union Aslef says

it will go ahead with three days of strike action

on the Southern Rail That's despite a report

by the Independent Rail Regulator claiming that trains

with driver-operated doors, David Bowie only discovered his

cancer was terminal three months before he died. He died last

January, just days after the release of his album, Black Star. You can

see a documentary, David Bowie, The Last Five Years tomorrow on BBC Two.

That is a summary of the latest news. Join me for BBC newsroom live

at 11 o'clock. A big weekend of FA Cup ties

coming up, 32 matches The action starts tonight

when Pep Guardiola's Manchester City For Guardiola, it's

a new experience, he's never been involved in this Cup before and he's

looking forward to what he describes Another Premier League player is

moving to the Chinese Super League. Chelsea's John Obi Mikel

is going to Tianjin Teda. Mikel joins other high profile

names in making the move, including former Chelsea teammate

Oscar. Sir Andy Murray is through to

the last four of the Qatar Open. The World Number One beat

Spain's Nicolas Almagro in straight sets to set up a semi-final

with third seed Tomas Berdych. Top seed Johanna Konta missed out

on a place in the final The British Number One was shocked

by Czech world number 52 That's all from me for now,

I'll have more on the BBC A police force's open letter

to a suspected burglar, which included emojis and hashtags,

has met with a mixed response. Kingston Police tweeted the note

addressed to Tracey Dyke, In a two-page letter on Facebook,

appealing for her to contact "Dear Tracey Dyke, We have come

round to see you a number of times recently, but it looks like you'd

rather not speak to us, We have a slight suspicion that

you might be blanking us #Awkward. You don't text, you don't

call back and haven't They go on to say Ms Dyke

was a suspect in crimes involving The letter signs off with,

"Looking forward to seeing I'm joined now by our

reporter, Sian Grzeszczyk. This is unusual, isn't it? Tell us

more about it and what the reaction has been. It is very unusual, I

haven't come across a tweet like this before. It has certainly

divided opinion since it was tweeted 24 hours ago. Let me take you

through some of the reaction. Some impressed, some are unimpressed. A

lady called Christina said, this reads like what a schoolteacher

types up on a newsletter to try and beat cool but just comes across as

awkward. Another response described it as a clever and unexpected use of

social media by a police force. The letter also doesn't just address

Tracy but it urges members of the public if they see had to call 999.

Comments just keep pouring in every time you look at the Twitter page

for Kingston police. One person said, whatever happened to

professionalism? Appalling conduct from social media team. It certainly

got people talking about it. What have Kingston police said? They

haven't got back to meet with the answers to my questions. Their

reaction to how people have perceived this open letter to

Tracey, and why they decided to do it, who did it and whether this is a

new approach to finding wanted people. They haven't got back to me

yet, we don't know whether Tracey has got in touch or not. Their

police colleagues in Lewisham said, we think you are a friendly bunch as

well, I hope Tracey returns your call soon. Thank you. A team of

British doctors have travelled to the Syria- Turkey border.

Aid workers plan to use the equipment to set up a children's

Rola Hallam did a video blog of the journey,

she arrived at the border on 23rd December.

My first thought right now is of this freezing cold weather

and of how many people are homeless, displaced, and refugees.

We had a bit of delay yesterday with the truck held up

We're back on the move, the team is an amazing spirits,

and I look forward to keeping you updated as we go along.

We have covered about 850 miles so far and we've got

We're progressing really, really well.

Our truck is a little while behind us because they have to go a bit

slower and have a bit more rest due to regulations.

So we're making our way through Bulgaria, we're a bit behind

schedule and we've just been told the border ahead is maybe closed

and there's a few hours waiting because there are lots of trucks

Great news, the convoy has just made it into Turkey!

The guard thought that Paul was Iranian and asked him

for all forms of ID to actually prove he was indeed a Scouser.

We've been on the road for about four hours and we've hit

a massive snowstorm, and we've been told

We're really not sure about how well we're going to be able

The people's convoy arrived safely, powered by your love and support

It was a really emotional, beautiful union with the independent

They are going to call the hospital Hope Hospital.

Since 2008, London has lost 50% of its nightclubs and 40%

of its live music venues, despite Night Time industries being

Fabric nightclub, one the most iconic venues in the capital,

was stripped of its licence and forced to close in September

after the drug-related deaths of two 18-year-olds.

Many saw it as an attack on dance culture, and the club

started a campaign that raised over ?300,000.

This weekend, the club will reopen, after Islington council agreed

The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has welcomed the decision,

and said he and his newly appointed "night czar", Amy Lame, were working

New conditions mean the venue will refuse entry to under-19s,

and will have tougher security measures to clamp down on drugs.

Let's talk now to Philip Kolvin, the barrister who helped Fabric

to strike an agreement with Islington council.

Since then, London Mayor Sadiq Khan has appointed him as Chairman

Alan Miller from the Night Time Industries Association campaigns

to make sure the night industry across the country is

Also joining us is American techno DJ and producer Seth Troxler,

who donated ?4,000 to the campaign to keep the club open.

He'll be headlining the Fabric reunion night on Saturday.

Thank you for joining us. Tell us more about what the case was for

reopening. It lost its licence because it breach it. The process

was one of dialogue within Clinton Council. It's really important to

say this. Although the Islington revoked the licence it was

immediately prepared to enter into a good dialogue as to what

professionally could be done to make clubbers safer in Fabric. But

involved better security at the door, and enhanced security

provision inside, and also better welfare facilities. So if somebody

is feeling poorly they are identified and dealt with

straightaway. All of that was dealt with through a number of technical

discussions which led to a tripartite agreement between Fabric,

the council and the police. What does this mean going forward? Does

this set a precedent and indicate there is always the way back? I

always believe there is a way back. I think closure of a nightclub

should always be a last resort. Nobody closes factory when there's

an accident, nobody closes an outline when there's an accident. If

something goes wrong, it's important the parties sit down together early

and work out what the best way forward is. One of the best things

about the night-time commission is we are going to try to make sure

that is the first port of call to get the parties sitting down and

talking, before it comes to closure. There's probably no other club in

the country that could have mustered resource and support that Fabric

mustard to keep themselves open. 7000 people helped fund their

campaign stay open. Otherwise it would have been gone. In the end can

any club ever guarantee it's going to keep drugs out and people save?

It's like life. It's like our prisons. During the hearing it said

Pentonville had a better record than Fabric. But that isn't the case.

Drugs are quite ubiquitous in society. I don't think it's fair or

legitimate to ask my clubs, bars or cafes to somehow be different to the

rest of society. But they operate under licence. They do indeed but

when they've done the measures in terms of security and checks, what

we find is increasingly they are being asked to do more things. More

and more conditions are imposed on them. Not everyone has the same

approach. When we have an incident, the question could be asked, how did

the drugs get to the club in the first place? I think it's a

conversation for people in Britain. People do take drugs, how do we want

to solve that as a society. Not just say we have a knee jerk reaction to

clubs and bars. This club is reopening on the basis of promoting

zero tolerance of drugs. In the end is any club going to be completely

zero tolerant of drugs? No one in Britain is allowed to say that they

can't do that, that somehow there is this thing in society that people

are doing, because then they will be penalised for encouraging it.

Although there are some good examples... Are you saying the

practice isn't going to match up to the rhetoric? Fabric had a gold

standard, now it is a platinum standard. They have a amazing due

diligence and professionalism. In the last year or two, things like

harm reduction and drug testing have been worked on with certain police

forces. In places like Switzerland you've got on the spot drug testing

where 1 million people go to a festival where there are no

fatalities. If it's about public health and safety, we need to have a

grown-up conversation about mitigating problems. And not just

saying if drugs are found inside or outside a club, that we have a knee

jerk reaction to close at. Are drugs an integral part of clubbing

culture? I did think so. Drugs are a social problem. You were talking

about hundreds of millions of dollars on drugs coming through the

Royal Mail. This isn't only a club problem. If you look at pop culture,

drugs are littered throughout culture. The idea that dance music

culture is to blame is ridiculous. Right now we are celebrating... It's

about how much drugs are in clubs, when they are operating under

licence... Drugs are in bars, casinos, concerts... A lot of people

go out to celebrate life. Fabric, like other clubs, there is a club in

Berlin which was given the highest approval of high culture. It's the

only club that gone back and forth between Fabric of being the number

one club in the world. In Germany they consider it the number one

source of culture. Yes there are drug deaths there. There are drug

deaths on the street right now in London because of the heroin

epidemic. But no one is talking about that. This is a story where

the council was trying to gentrify the neighbourhood, and using Fabric

as an example for their greater wealth. There are deaths all the

time, it is not to trivialise them, but on our motorways and beaches, we

see all sorts of problems occur in various walks of life. We work out

how to mitigate, resolve all emit them together. We don't say we are

just going to shut down the airport or closed shopping centre when there

is a mugging or a stabbing. When it comes to bars and clubs, the notion

that they are responsible for all personal behaviour, not only is that

unrealistic but it also takes away the autonomy of our citizens. The

notion that under English law you are responsible for your own

conduct. We have to say, how can we make our cities truly creative and

dynamic together by working in partnership? What happens if there

is another drug step that Fabric? You cannot guarantee there will

never be a drug death in a club, Street, Park or anywhere else. What

we want to see from clubs is that they are using due diligence,

operating best practice, being honest and straightforward and

transparent with your parities. I hope that one of the things that we

are going to be able to do in the night-time commission is to explain

and express good practice for all licensed premises. If they are

operating under Best practice and a tragedy occurs, then of course they

shouldn't be shut down. Thank you. Let us know your thoughts on that.

A short time ago I spoke to former EastEnders actor Nitin Ganatra,

who starred alongside Om Puri in the BBC's adaption

He told us how the actor inspired him as a child.

It was a rare occasion when my family went to see a British film in

the Midlands. It was Richard Attenborough's Gandhi. As a

teenager, I had to sit through the lecture of India's history. Then a

scene in the film which was astonishing. A tiny scene, it was a

cameo and it had such a huge impact on me. I have never forgotten it.

Years later it turned out to be Om Puri, when I did my research. Of

course, after that, I had the honour of working with him twice on

projects. I did tell him that story. What was it about that moment and