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Hello. It's Wednesday, 15th February. | :00:08. | :00:15. | |
South Korea says it is certain that the half-brother | :00:16. | :00:21. | |
of North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un has been killed in Malaysia. | :00:22. | :00:23. | |
Kim Jong-nam died after an apparent poison attack | :00:24. | :00:25. | |
in the airport in the capital, Kuala Lumpur, on Monday. | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
No motive has been confirmed and the attackers have | :00:29. | :00:30. | |
Malaysian police say he complained of being attacked by women who | :00:31. | :00:36. | |
covered his face with a cloth full of burning liquid. He was then taken | :00:37. | :00:42. | |
to the clinic at the airport and then brought to hospital, but he | :00:43. | :00:43. | |
died en route. Nineteen million people in the UK | :00:44. | :00:50. | |
aren't earning enough money to have an adequate quality of life, | :00:51. | :00:52. | |
according to new research. Poverty campaigners | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
the Joseph Rowntree Foundation say that a couple with children now need | :00:56. | :00:56. | |
to earn a minimum of ?37,800 to get by properly and if you are a single | :00:57. | :01:00. | |
parent you need ?35,707. We will be speaking to some | :01:01. | :01:03. | |
of those feeling the pinch. Repeated blows to the head | :01:04. | :01:07. | |
during a footballer's professional career may be linked to long-term | :01:08. | :01:10. | |
brain damage, according to So is it time for a change | :01:11. | :01:13. | |
in rules - especially Hello. | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
Welcome to the programme. Also coming up, data exclusively | :01:18. | :01:32. | |
given to this programme shows that there has been a massive jump | :01:33. | :01:39. | |
in the number of abortion pills being bought online in mainland UK, | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
even though using the pills without medical approval is illegal | :01:43. | :01:47. | |
and which you may not know, could be punished | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
with a life sentence. We will be finding out | :01:51. | :01:52. | |
what is driving the increase, and, of course, we want | :01:53. | :01:57. | |
to hear your experiences. Do get in touch on all the stories | :01:58. | :01:59. | |
we're talking about this morning. Use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE | :02:00. | :02:03. | |
and if you text, you will be charged Our top story today, | :02:04. | :02:05. | |
South Korea has confirmed that the man killed in an apparent | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
attack at an airport in Malaysia on Monday was the estranged | :02:11. | :02:14. | |
half-brother of the North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and they believe | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
North Korean agents poisoned him. Police in Malaysia are | :02:19. | :02:21. | |
studying CCTV footage Images from the footage have focused | :02:22. | :02:23. | |
on two women seen alongside him, who were later spotted leaving | :02:24. | :02:30. | |
the scene in a taxi. Was Kim Jong-nam poisoned | :02:31. | :02:32. | |
by assassins as he prepared to board a flight in the Malaysian | :02:33. | :02:42. | |
capital on Monday? Confusion and mystery surround | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
the death of the half-brother Now South Korean officials say | :02:47. | :02:49. | |
they believe he was murdered. TRANSLATION: The Government is | :02:50. | :03:01. | |
certainly judging that the murdered person is Kim Jong-nam. Since this | :03:02. | :03:04. | |
case is still being investigated we should wait for details until the | :03:05. | :03:07. | |
Malaysian Government makes an announcement. | :03:08. | :03:12. | |
Just before he died, Kim Jong-nam is reported to have | :03:13. | :03:14. | |
told medical workers he was attacked with a chemical spray. | :03:15. | :03:18. | |
Police are studying security camera footage from the airport. | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
He had been long estranged from his half-brother | :03:23. | :03:26. | |
the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, falling out of favour | :03:27. | :03:30. | |
with the secretive regime and living in exile after he was caught | :03:31. | :03:33. | |
sneaking into Japan on a fake passport. | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
South Korea's acting president said if North Korea was responsible it | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
would show the brutality and inhumane nature of the regime. | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
TRANSLATION: The government is carefully watching | :03:47. | :03:49. | |
North Korea's movements, acknowledging the fact this | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
A postmortem is due to be carried in Kuala Lumpur later. | :03:53. | :04:03. | |
A woman has been detained at Kuala Lumpur Airport. | :04:04. | :04:14. | |
Our correspondent Karishma Vaswani has the latest on this story | :04:15. | :04:17. | |
from the Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur. | :04:18. | :04:18. | |
I'm standing outside the morgue where the body of the man we believe | :04:19. | :04:21. | |
to be Kim Jong-nam was brought by Malaysian police overnight. | :04:22. | :04:24. | |
Since then, we've seen several police cars and a police van | :04:25. | :04:26. | |
carrying away what we believe to be that body. | :04:27. | :04:28. | |
On Monday, a North Korean national was taking off for a flight to Macau | :04:29. | :04:36. | |
from KL Airport when Malaysian police say he complained | :04:37. | :04:38. | |
of being attacked by women who covered his face with a cloth | :04:39. | :04:41. | |
He was then taken to the clinic at the airport and then brought | :04:42. | :04:49. | |
Malaysian police initially said that the man who died | :04:50. | :05:00. | |
on Monday was Kim Jong-nam, the half-brother of North Korean | :05:01. | :05:02. | |
There's a lot of confusion and speculation as to what's | :05:03. | :05:06. | |
actually going on in this case, but Malaysian police have said that | :05:07. | :05:09. | |
until a complete investigation and an autopsy of what happened | :05:10. | :05:11. | |
is confirmed, they won't be saying much else. | :05:12. | :05:19. | |
Reeta Chakrabarti is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary | :05:20. | :05:22. | |
The US media are reporting that members of President Trump's | :05:23. | :05:26. | |
campaign team had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence | :05:27. | :05:29. | |
officials in the year before the US presidential election. | :05:30. | :05:33. | |
It follows the resignation of the National Security Adviser, | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
General Mike Flynn, over allegations surrounding a phone call he had | :05:38. | :05:40. | |
with a senior Russian diplomat before President Trump took power. | :05:41. | :05:43. | |
General Flynn quit after it was revealed he had misled | :05:44. | :05:46. | |
the White House over the nature of the call. | :05:47. | :05:48. | |
It's alleged he discussed the future of US sanctions on Russia. | :05:49. | :05:50. | |
Senior Republicans have joined calls for | :05:51. | :05:52. | |
The number of abortion pills being bought online | :05:53. | :06:02. | |
in Britain is on the rise, according to data shown to | :06:03. | :06:04. | |
Government figures show 375 doses, sent to addresses in England, | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
Wales and Scotland, were seized in 2016, | :06:10. | :06:10. | |
Taking the pills while pregnant without medical approval | :06:11. | :06:17. | |
We'll have more on that story at 9.45am. | :06:18. | :06:25. | |
For the first time, a scientific study has found a possible link | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
between head injuries and brain damage in former footballers. | :06:30. | :06:32. | |
Researchers studied the brains of six former players who had died | :06:33. | :06:34. | |
from dementia and then discovered that some of them had a form | :06:35. | :06:37. | |
of the disease linked to repeated blows to the head. | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
Our health reporter Smitha Mundasad has more. | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
Jeff Astle, former England footballer who died in 2002. | :06:46. | :06:51. | |
He had degenerative brain disease, linked to repeatedly heading | :06:52. | :06:53. | |
His family have been campaigning for more research to find out | :06:54. | :06:59. | |
whether lots of this can lead to long-lasting brain damage. | :07:00. | :07:05. | |
In this latest study, scientists looked at the brains | :07:06. | :07:09. | |
of six lifelong footballers who had developed dementia. | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
When we examined their brains at autopsy, we saw the sorts | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
of changes that are seen in ex-boxers, so the changes that | :07:19. | :07:21. | |
are particularly associated with repeated head injury, | :07:22. | :07:23. | |
which are known as CTE, chronic traumatic encephalopathy. | :07:24. | :07:30. | |
So we have shown that head injury has occurred earlier in life, | :07:31. | :07:39. | |
So we have shown that head injury has occurred earlier in their life, | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
which presumably has some impact on them developing dementia. | :07:43. | :07:44. | |
It's a small study, that can't prove a link between football | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
and dementia and the scientists are clear their work did not analyse | :07:49. | :07:51. | |
For the average adult footballer, who plays recreationally, | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
experts at Alzheimer's Research UK say the risks are likely to be | :07:55. | :08:02. | |
low and outweighed by the benefits of exercise. | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
But the Football Association says one question that needs to be | :08:06. | :08:08. | |
answered is whether degenerative brain diseases are more | :08:09. | :08:16. | |
common in ex-footballers and the FA says that's research | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
Several people are still unaccounted for after the explosion in Oxford | :08:20. | :08:25. | |
yesterday which destroyed a three-storey block of flats. | :08:26. | :08:27. | |
Three people were hurt in the blast, in the south west of the city. | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
Two people were treated for minor injuries and one | :08:31. | :08:32. | |
The cause of the explosion is still unknown. | :08:33. | :08:38. | |
A Ukip press officer has offered her resignation after saying | :08:39. | :08:41. | |
she was responsible for misleading personal information | :08:42. | :08:43. | |
about the Hillsborough disaster on the website of party leader Paul | :08:44. | :08:45. | |
Mr Nuttall admitted yesterday, in an appearance | :08:46. | :08:52. | |
on Liverpool's Radio City Talk, that claims that he's lost | :08:53. | :08:54. | |
a close, personal friend in the tragedy were untrue. | :08:55. | :08:56. | |
He said he hadn't written or seen the information on his website | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
People who have grown up in care are far more likely to die in early | :09:01. | :09:08. | |
adulthood than those who haven't, according to figures revealed | :09:09. | :09:10. | |
Although care leavers make up just 1% of all 19 to 21-year-olds, | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
they accounted for 7% of deaths amongst that age group last year. | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
It's thought poor mental health and difficulties accessing | :09:20. | :09:21. | |
The Government says it is investing ?10 million in support | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
A lack of sex and relationships education in some of England's | :09:26. | :09:35. | |
secondary schools is creating a "ticking sexual health time bomb", | :09:36. | :09:37. | |
The Local Government Association says pupils are not being prepared | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
for adulthood and is calling for sex education to be compulsory | :09:42. | :09:43. | |
Currently, all schools in England under local authority control have | :09:44. | :09:51. | |
to teach the subject as part of the national curriculum, | :09:52. | :09:54. | |
but a loophole means academies and free schools | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
which are controlled by central government | :09:58. | :09:59. | |
are not obliged to cover the subject. | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
Harrison Ford has been involved in a near-miss while flying his | :10:04. | :10:05. | |
The 74-year-old actor mistakenly landed on a taxiway | :10:06. | :10:13. | |
where an American Airlines plane was waiting to take-off with more | :10:14. | :10:15. | |
Peter Bowes reports from Los Angeles. | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
It happened as Harrison Ford was coming in to land | :10:20. | :10:22. | |
at the John Wayne Airport in Orange County. | :10:23. | :10:24. | |
The Federal Aviation Administration confirmed that the pilot | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
of a single-engine plane had been cleared to land and that he | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
But instead of landing on the designated runway, | :10:32. | :10:36. | |
Just before landing, Ford is reported to have asked | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
the air traffic controllers "Was that airliner meant | :10:43. | :10:43. | |
The Boeing 737 had 110 passengers on board, and took off safely | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
An FAA investigation into the incident is under way. | :10:49. | :10:56. | |
It could result in a suspension of Ford's pilot's licence. | :10:57. | :11:02. | |
The golden couple of British cycling have announced | :11:03. | :11:05. | |
Laura and Jason Kenny are expecting their first child | :11:06. | :11:11. | |
as Laura revealed in an Instagram post yesterday. | :11:12. | :11:13. | |
The couple are said to be thrilled and delighted and have thanked | :11:14. | :11:16. | |
the public for the kind messages and support they've | :11:17. | :11:18. | |
A group of kayakers in the Firth of Forth got more than he bargained | :11:19. | :11:24. | |
for yesterday when a passing seal decided to hitch a ride. | :11:25. | :11:27. | |
The cheeky mammal had followed the paddling group for a mile before | :11:28. | :11:29. | |
The kayakers said it was an "amazing experience". | :11:30. | :11:38. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :11:39. | :11:40. | |
Still to come - how much do you earn? | :11:41. | :11:48. | |
And do you think its enough to get by on? | :11:49. | :11:50. | |
According to poverty campaigners the Joseph Rowntree Foundation | :11:51. | :11:52. | |
at least a third of us are living with an inadequate income. | :11:53. | :11:59. | |
We will be talking to some of those feeling the pinch and, of course, | :12:00. | :12:02. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning. | :12:03. | :12:08. | |
Use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE and If you text, you will be charged | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
And Barcelona suffering a rare thrashing last night. It is not | :12:12. | :12:20. | |
often that Barcelona get beaten. There is beaten and there is being | :12:21. | :12:24. | |
absolutely thrashed and they lost 4-0 in the last 16 of the Champions | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
League at Paris St Germain and they're out of the Champions League | :12:29. | :12:30. | |
now, aren't they? This is a team that won the European Cup five | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
times. It is not often you see them be demolished like this. Have a look | :12:35. | :12:38. | |
at the goals. This is the first last night. This player got two on his | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
29th birthday. The first one was a free-kick. | :12:45. | :12:53. | |
Then a second and then a third into the top corner. It was a birthday | :12:54. | :13:00. | |
bonanza for PSG. We talk about Lionel Messi, it was | :13:01. | :13:09. | |
like someone tied Lionel Messi, mistakes all over the pitch. Yes, | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
the significance of this is this a real turning point for Europe's | :13:15. | :13:18. | |
elite as we say Barcelona winning it five times before? We see them in | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
the semifinals and the quarterfinals and the final, but they've got a | :13:23. | :13:27. | |
huge task on their hands. No team has overturned a four goal, first | :13:28. | :13:30. | |
leg, deficit in the Champions League. So all to do and their | :13:31. | :13:39. | |
manager saying a disastrous night and we were clearly inferior. | :13:40. | :13:42. | |
Pressure Will on Arsenal tonight because they are back in Champions | :13:43. | :13:46. | |
League action? Yes Arsenal in Champions League action and Arsene | :13:47. | :13:48. | |
Wenger not happy to be reminded really that they've got a poor | :13:49. | :13:53. | |
record in the knock-out stages. The last six seasons they have failed to | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
get past the last 16. They will be sick of the sight of Bayern Munich. | :13:58. | :14:09. | |
Bayern Munich are seven points clear at the top of the Bundesliga. | :14:10. | :14:15. | |
Despite their poor record Arsene Wenger saying there is no reason | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
they can't put it right. I feel we have the experience. We play against | :14:20. | :14:26. | |
a Bayern side every year the every year the same target is to win the | :14:27. | :14:29. | |
Champions League and when you look at their record they are always | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
basically in the last four. So it's a massive challenge, but I think we | :14:36. | :14:41. | |
are capable of dealing with it. All the build-up and commentary for | :14:42. | :14:49. | |
you on 5 Live sport. A former Sunderland striker in the Premier | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
League. He has been told he has unethical hair. I don't know what | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
you make of that. I think it is a three. I'm not quite sure. He's one | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
of 40 players to have been found guilty of having unethical hair by | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
the united Arab Emirates Football Association. They told a goalkeeper | :15:08. | :15:11. | |
four years ago to cut his hair before a game. We're trying it get | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
clarification as to why it is unethical. He was told he has to | :15:16. | :15:21. | |
sort his hair out! We look forward to finding out what | :15:22. | :15:25. | |
you found out about that. Thank you, Will. | :15:26. | :15:30. | |
19 million people aren't earning enough | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
to have an adequate quality of life, a rise of four million | :15:36. | :15:37. | |
According to the report by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
if you fall below the following levels you are not earning enough | :15:42. | :15:44. | |
It's ?17,300 if you're single and renting | :15:45. | :15:47. | |
If you're a couple with two children and living | :15:48. | :15:50. | |
in social housing, you need a minimum of ?37,800 between you. | :15:51. | :15:53. | |
Or staggeringly, if you're a single parent | :15:54. | :15:56. | |
Let us talk now to a number of people who fall below those lines. | :15:57. | :16:08. | |
Solomon Smith is a 31-year-old youth worker from London | :16:09. | :16:10. | |
Alison Darby lives in London, where you need at least ?29,000 | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
She works two jobs and over 60 hours a week. | :16:15. | :16:26. | |
Thank you for joining us. You are single with two children and I said | :16:27. | :16:33. | |
you earned ?9,000 per year, that compares with the foundation saying | :16:34. | :16:38. | |
that to be getting by, you should be earning 35,004 -- around ?35,500. | :16:39. | :16:47. | |
Tell us what your lifestyle is why? It is hard. It is proper hand to | :16:48. | :16:53. | |
mouth. Sometimes I pay my rent, my electric or my water, or sometimes, | :16:54. | :16:57. | |
do I just get into the red? Now I'm used to seeing a lot of red letters. | :16:58. | :17:02. | |
Tell us more about the specifics on how you get by. Obviously, they are | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
fundamental things you are talking about not being able to afford. It | :17:07. | :17:10. | |
is just like, you know, like today is payday and I know it is not going | :17:11. | :17:18. | |
to be enough for my rent, the kids' school meals. It is just like, | :17:19. | :17:24. | |
sometimes it is just heartbreaking. I also run a charity as well for the | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
homeless. Sometimes I have two it where I work to make sure I can | :17:28. | :17:36. | |
Super have enough food for the day. You know, it is just kind of living | :17:37. | :17:42. | |
in 2017 and kind of experiencing what I'm experiencing is absolutely | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
crazy. Allison, what is your situation? You are single with no | :17:47. | :17:50. | |
children but you are working extremely hard and you are still not | :17:51. | :17:56. | |
earning the level you need. I'm a postgraduate, I've got a degree, I | :17:57. | :17:59. | |
went to university thinking it would help me get into a position where I | :18:00. | :18:03. | |
could get a decent job. It was quite hard after I'd finished university | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
because I went back quite late and I could not really find work anywhere | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
and ended up waitressing for a while. Eventually got a reasonable | :18:12. | :18:14. | |
job at the pay is not great. To subsidise that, I have to work on | :18:15. | :18:18. | |
weekends at the local pub. Just to get enough money for travel and | :18:19. | :18:27. | |
rent. What are the choices you have to make? To be honest, my rent is | :18:28. | :18:30. | |
usually loads. My bills are included in my rent otherwise I could not | :18:31. | :18:33. | |
guarantee the money would be there. I have to ask my parents for money. | :18:34. | :18:38. | |
My mum is retired and my dad is working part-time. It is so hard, | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
constantly having to worry about whether or not I can pay my rent, if | :18:43. | :18:47. | |
I can get my travel money to work each week, and I don't even remember | :18:48. | :18:51. | |
the last time I went away. I have no social life. My social life is the | :18:52. | :18:58. | |
work at the pub. Has it always been like this for you? Has it got | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
harder? It has just got harder. Like myself, I went to university, | :19:04. | :19:06. | |
thinking that once I've finished, I would have a good job. It made it | :19:07. | :19:12. | |
ten times worse. Then, you know, you have more bills, what is upon your | :19:13. | :19:18. | |
head. The day I finished university, instead of celebrating, I got a | :19:19. | :19:21. | |
letter saying I was in debt of ?40,000. I was thinking, how am I | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
going to pay that? And you are building your debt because you are | :19:27. | :19:32. | |
starting some month in the red. What about your debt levels? Now, seeing | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
all the letters, easily up to ?70,000. Why do you think it has got | :19:38. | :19:45. | |
worse, both of you? I think it is the lack of jobs. They say going to | :19:46. | :19:52. | |
university would kind of encourage you to kind of get work but it is | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
not like that. I think we have got to educate people that commie you | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
know, there are thousands and thousands of people going to | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
university, leaving university and not getting work. And ?50,000 debt | :20:06. | :20:08. | |
which goes against you if you could try to get a mortgage. What policy | :20:09. | :20:15. | |
decisions in the budget next month might make a difference? There | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
should be more means testing and things. For me, I fall out of the | :20:21. | :20:24. | |
category that would get any kind of tax credits or anything. I pay a lot | :20:25. | :20:31. | |
of tax, because I work two jobs so 20% on one of them and whatever on | :20:32. | :20:35. | |
the other. But I don't see any of it back. I pay for my prescriptions | :20:36. | :20:40. | |
like everyone else, dentistry, like everyone else, travel, and it is a | :20:41. | :20:43. | |
lot of money in London to travel to get to work. These kind of things. | :20:44. | :20:50. | |
They just all add up. If there was a way to help someone who earns under | :20:51. | :20:53. | |
?20,000 to lives in the city, that would be helpful to a lot of people. | :20:54. | :20:59. | |
But we don't get that. Do you have any ideas on policy decisions? The | :21:00. | :21:03. | |
best policy is to make the policy visible for everyone, because | :21:04. | :21:08. | |
there's a lot of different funds that can help people. If you don't | :21:09. | :21:11. | |
know about it, you will never know. That is one problem I have always | :21:12. | :21:17. | |
had a problem with. I have had to do a lot of research to get a lot of | :21:18. | :21:23. | |
help. And again, that is one of the main reasons why I set up my own | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
charity, because there's a lot of support that people are entitled to | :21:28. | :21:33. | |
and they just don't know. I think it is making those policies known to | :21:34. | :21:36. | |
everyone and who is entitled to it can get it. I want to read some | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
comments from people watching, Kelly has tweeted to say, "I'm definitely | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
struggling financially, made redundant in 2013 and have been | :21:46. | :21:50. | |
struggling ever since, debt is a major problem". Christopher says, "I | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
just get ?60 per week from a cleaning job and ?20 on DLA and | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
without my family I would not be alive". Matthew said on Facebook, | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
"Predatory globalism and capitalism is a race to the bottom of the | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
labour cost pile". Can you see things changing? You are trying to | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
earn what you can but are there any obvious options? Short of searching | :22:13. | :22:18. | |
and trying to find a better job which I don't have time to do and I | :22:19. | :22:22. | |
love my job, I don't want to leave it. I'm not even sure there's a | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
decent salary job out there. What do you do? I will read. It's unusual, | :22:28. | :22:33. | |
it is like a vocation for you? I like it and enjoyed it and the | :22:34. | :22:39. | |
people I work with our great. What do you do? Everybody in the country | :22:40. | :22:42. | |
who died, there will come through the office and we compile | :22:43. | :22:44. | |
information, give it to charities and government and things like that, | :22:45. | :22:48. | |
inform charities when they get money. It is satisfying work. It is | :22:49. | :22:54. | |
great. You don't want to change but you don't earn enough? Know so I | :22:55. | :22:58. | |
have to work on the weekends and realistically, you can't do that | :22:59. | :23:01. | |
forever, working seven days a week. What about living in London? The | :23:02. | :23:08. | |
living costs are more expensive, too. Can you afford to stay in | :23:09. | :23:12. | |
London? Not really, I pay ?1000 and ensuite room every month, which | :23:13. | :23:15. | |
includes my bills but that is a lot of money, just for a room in zone | :23:16. | :23:20. | |
two so I still have to get the train to work every day. Short of moving | :23:21. | :23:25. | |
further out, I was in Whitechapel and had to move to Stratford because | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
I could not afford to live in Whitechapel any more. Realistically, | :23:30. | :23:32. | |
I will have to move further out and pay more travel. How do you see your | :23:33. | :23:39. | |
options? To be totally honest, I don't know, I just feel it is not | :23:40. | :23:45. | |
going to get any better. I have to keep an struggling. Any means of me | :23:46. | :23:49. | |
trying to get money, working extra hours, sometimes I work until 4am, | :23:50. | :23:56. | |
just to get extra hours. And you have kids? I have two kids. It must | :23:57. | :24:02. | |
be very hard? It is so hard. So they can't have what they need basically. | :24:03. | :24:09. | |
Yes, it is half term now and a lot of the vision, when it is half term, | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
it is like Butlins and things like that, it proper hurts me to know | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
that it is half term and the kids have got to stay at home. How old | :24:19. | :24:24. | |
are they now? Seven and two and this is their prime time when they are | :24:25. | :24:28. | |
asking me to go here and there but I can't do it. I asked you what you | :24:29. | :24:32. | |
both thought the government could do in policy terms to help you but | :24:33. | :24:36. | |
obviously, you are working, you are doing everything that you can to | :24:37. | :24:42. | |
help yourselves. What responsibility do you feel the state has two you? I | :24:43. | :24:48. | |
would definitely say that if you can see that we are not just sitting at | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
home, mum and dad sitting at home, we are going out there and doing | :24:54. | :24:56. | |
something, I think we should get some kind of support to see that | :24:57. | :25:01. | |
they are trying and it is hard. And then we can kind of try to make it a | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
bit easier for them. But I think they need to do a bit more to kind | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
of see that there is a lot of people in dire need and still working. And | :25:11. | :25:18. | |
the pressures on you? Most definitely. Thank you for joining | :25:19. | :25:24. | |
us. And telling us about your experiences, and thanks for your | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
comments. Keep your thoughts coming in. | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
Does a career of heading footballs lead to dementia in professional | :25:32. | :25:38. | |
footballers? New evidence suggests there could be a link. We will speak | :25:39. | :25:41. | |
to the daughter of the former England striker Jeff Astle who says | :25:42. | :25:44. | |
her father 's death could have been down to his days on the pitch. Also, | :25:45. | :25:50. | |
data given exclusively to this programme revealed that more women | :25:51. | :25:52. | |
in the UK are buying abortion pills online. | :25:53. | :25:53. | |
We'll be speaking to the British Pregnancy Advisory Service | :25:54. | :26:00. | |
Also about why they say it could be dangerous. | :26:01. | :26:09. | |
Away from the row about Donald Trump's national security adviser, | :26:10. | :26:15. | |
the administration has had a peace deal to Israel and the Palestinians | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
may not come in the form of a two state solution. | :26:20. | :26:19. | |
A White House official said the peace process was a priority | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
for President Trump - but he did not want | :26:23. | :26:24. | |
Mr Trump will hold talks with the Israeli Prime Minister | :26:25. | :26:28. | |
Barbara Plett-Usher takes a look at what's on the agenda. | :26:29. | :26:31. | |
This is a moment for Israel and America to take stock of their | :26:32. | :26:39. | |
relationship. Here are Netanyahu and Trump's four priorities. First, this | :26:40. | :26:42. | |
is a chance to reset Israeli-American relations at the | :26:43. | :26:46. | |
top. Obama did not get on so well with Netanyahu but now... I think | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
he's good, I like him, he's strong. And Trump has promised to be the | :26:52. | :26:54. | |
most pro-Israel president ever. I'm the best thing that could happen to | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
Israel. Be bred for lots of mutual admiration. I plan to speak soon | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
with President, but how to counter the threat of the uranium regime | :27:04. | :27:06. | |
which calls for Israel's destruction. At the top of | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
Netanyahu's gender is Iran. Both leaders are fierce critics of | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
Obama's deal to curb Iran's nuclear programme. This is a bad deal. It | :27:15. | :27:21. | |
was the worst deal I've ever seen negotiated. Netanyahu wants to scrap | :27:22. | :27:24. | |
the agreement and Trump is more likely to enforce it vigorously and | :27:25. | :27:28. | |
taken of harder line against Iran. And then there is the battle against | :27:29. | :27:32. | |
so-called Islamic State. Trump has roused to crush the group in Syria. | :27:33. | :27:36. | |
Netanyahu is all for that. But he does not want any of this to spill | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
over Israel's shared border with Syria. And Israel may want American | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
help to foster covert cooperation with some Arab countries on | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
counterterrorism and also on a shared desire to counter Iran. | :27:50. | :27:55. | |
Finally, the hot ticket question, Trump's policy for peace with the | :27:56. | :27:58. | |
Palestinians. He wants to know Netanyahu's plan. He is still | :27:59. | :28:02. | |
forming his own and it seems to stray from bedrock US positions. | :28:03. | :28:07. | |
They are support for a Palestinian state and opposition to Jewish | :28:08. | :28:10. | |
settlements built on Israeli-occupied land expected to | :28:11. | :28:13. | |
form part of that state. Trump the candidate said Israel should keep | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
building but Trump the president has been cautiously rowing back. We | :28:18. | :28:21. | |
don't believe the existence of current settlement is an impediment | :28:22. | :28:24. | |
to peace but I think the construction or expansion of | :28:25. | :28:27. | |
existing settlements beyond the current borders is not going to be | :28:28. | :28:31. | |
helpful moving forward. Netanyahu is also seeking a better read on | :28:32. | :28:35. | |
Trump's future decisions. Campaign promises are one thing. Complicated | :28:36. | :28:39. | |
realities are another, especially if the president is a businessman who | :28:40. | :28:43. | |
harbours hopes of making the ultimate deal on Middle East peace. | :28:44. | :28:48. | |
Here's Reeta Chakrabaty in the BBC Newsroom | :28:49. | :28:50. | |
Malaysian authorities say they have detained a woman from Myanmar | :28:51. | :28:57. | |
in connection with the death of Kim Jong-Nam, the half-brother | :28:58. | :28:59. | |
Kim Jong-nam died after an apparent poison attack in the airport in | :29:00. | :29:10. | |
Kuala Lumpur on Monday. South Korea says they believe he was killed by | :29:11. | :29:13. | |
North Korean agents. North Korea have not commented on the death but | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
officials from the country's Malaysia Dempsey have been visiting | :29:18. | :29:20. | |
the hospital in Kuala Lumpur where Mr Kim's body has been taken. | :29:21. | :29:24. | |
The number of abortion pills being bought online | :29:25. | :29:26. | |
in Britain is on the rise, according to data shown to | :29:27. | :29:28. | |
Government figures show 375 doses, sent to addresses in England, | :29:29. | :29:32. | |
Wales and Scotland, were seized in 2016, | :29:33. | :29:33. | |
Taking the pills while pregnant without medical approval | :29:34. | :29:39. | |
We'll have more on that story shortly. | :29:40. | :29:49. | |
Ukip has rejected an offer of resignation from one of its press | :29:50. | :29:55. | |
officers whose was responsible for misleading personal information | :29:56. | :29:56. | |
about the Hillsborough disaster contained an -- website of party | :29:57. | :29:59. | |
leader Paul Nuttall. Mr Nuttall admitted | :30:00. | :30:01. | |
yesterday, in an appearance on Liverpool's Radio City Talk, | :30:02. | :30:02. | |
that claims that he's lost a close, personal friend | :30:03. | :30:05. | |
in the tragedy were untrue. He said he hadn't written or seen | :30:06. | :30:07. | |
the information on his website Hundreds of people in | :30:08. | :30:10. | |
the New Zealand city of Christchurch have been evacuated as wildfires | :30:11. | :30:14. | |
threatened houses in its suburbs. A state of emergency has been | :30:15. | :30:17. | |
declared and the military called in to help battle the blaze | :30:18. | :30:19. | |
in the city's southern It is thought the fire has destroyed | :30:20. | :30:22. | |
at least seven houses and forced Several people are still unaccounted | :30:23. | :30:26. | |
for after the explosion in Oxford yesterday which destroyed | :30:27. | :30:31. | |
a three-storey block of flats. Three people were hurt in the blast, | :30:32. | :30:35. | |
in the south west of the city. Two people were treated | :30:36. | :30:38. | |
for minor injuries and one The cause of the | :30:39. | :30:40. | |
explosion is unknown. Although care leavers make up 1% of | :30:41. | :31:03. | |
all 19 and 21-year-olds they accounted for 7% of deaths amongst | :31:04. | :31:06. | |
that age group last year. It is thought that poor mental health and | :31:07. | :31:10. | |
difficulties accessing support could be to blame. The Government says it | :31:11. | :31:15. | |
is investing ?10 million in support for those leaving care. | :31:16. | :31:21. | |
A lack of sex and relationships education in some of England's | :31:22. | :31:26. | |
secondary schools is creating a ticking timebomb according to local | :31:27. | :31:29. | |
councils. The Local Government Association says that pupils are not | :31:30. | :31:33. | |
being prepared for adulthood and it is calling for sex education to be | :31:34. | :31:39. | |
compulsory in secondary schools. Currently all schools under local | :31:40. | :31:42. | |
authority control have to teach the subject. But academies and free | :31:43. | :31:47. | |
schools, which are controlled by central Government, are not obliged | :31:48. | :31:51. | |
to cover the subject. Harrison Ford has been involved in a near miss | :31:52. | :31:54. | |
whilst flying his plane in California. The 74-year-old actor | :31:55. | :32:02. | |
mistakenly landed on a taxiway at John Wayne Airport. | :32:03. | :32:05. | |
An investigation is underway. That's a summary of | :32:06. | :32:10. | |
the latest BBC News. We are getting latest unemployment | :32:11. | :32:22. | |
figures through. Unemployment fell by 7,000 according to the latest | :32:23. | :32:26. | |
official figures and the claimant count fell by 42 ,400 to 745,000. | :32:27. | :32:33. | |
The Office for National Statistics putting the figures out. We'll bring | :32:34. | :32:37. | |
you more detail. More detail on earnings as well coming through. | :32:38. | :32:41. | |
Average earnings increased by 2.6% in the year to December which was | :32:42. | :32:48. | |
down by 0.2% on the previous month. We had the inflation figures | :32:49. | :32:51. | |
yesterday and inflation was up last month compared with December, up to | :32:52. | :33:01. | |
1.8% from 1.6%, but average earnings increases, still outstripping that, | :33:02. | :33:04. | |
increased by 2.6% in the year to December, but it was down by 0.2% on | :33:05. | :33:09. | |
the previous month. So we'll bring you more on those figures and | :33:10. | :33:11. | |
reaction to it clear. Here's some sport | :33:12. | :33:15. | |
now with Will Perry. Barcelona were thrashed 4-0 in the | :33:16. | :33:24. | |
last 16 of the Champions League by Paris St Germain last night. | :33:25. | :33:36. | |
Benfica beat Borussia Dortmund. Arsenal in Champions League action | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
tonight. They play the first leg of their tie to Bayern Munich. Arsene | :33:42. | :33:45. | |
Wenger's side have been knocked out at this stage in the last four | :33:46. | :33:51. | |
years. And Floyd May weather joinior denies | :33:52. | :33:57. | |
reports that he agreed a bout with Conor McGregor. Mayweather retired | :33:58. | :34:02. | |
from boxing in September 2015. McGregor has never fought a | :34:03. | :34:08. | |
professional boxing match and says he wants ?18 million to fight | :34:09. | :34:10. | |
Mayweather. We will see you later. Now, for the first time, | :34:11. | :34:18. | |
a scientific study has found a possible link between head | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
injuries and dementia Researchers studied the brains | :34:22. | :34:23. | |
of six former footballers who had died from dementia, | :34:24. | :34:26. | |
and discovered that some of them had a form of the disease, | :34:27. | :34:31. | |
chronic traumatic encephalopathy, which is linked to repeated | :34:32. | :34:33. | |
blows to the head. Before this study we have only had | :34:34. | :34:35. | |
anecdotal reports that footballers might be more prone to develop | :34:36. | :34:38. | |
dementia in later life. Let's show you pictures of the | :34:39. | :34:53. | |
England World Cup winning squad in 1966. Some of the squad have | :34:54. | :34:57. | |
Alzheimer's. Although we can't say they developed the condition from | :34:58. | :35:00. | |
playing in the game, it is feared their illness could be linked to | :35:01. | :35:05. | |
decades of heading traditional leather cased footballs. | :35:06. | :35:09. | |
We can speak to Dawn Astle, the daughter of the former England | :35:10. | :35:12. | |
and West Brom footballer, Jeff Astle. | :35:13. | :35:13. | |
Jeff died at the age of 59 from a degenerative brain disease, | :35:14. | :35:16. | |
which was linked to heading old leather footballs, and | :35:17. | :35:18. | |
after reading the report, Dawn says there are hundreds if not | :35:19. | :35:21. | |
thousands of other footballers out there suffering | :35:22. | :35:22. | |
We also have Peter McCabe, chief executive of Headway, | :35:23. | :35:27. | |
Dawn, you have been pushing for more research to be done into this. What | :35:28. | :35:39. | |
is your reaction to this research? Well, sadly, I'm not surprised | :35:40. | :35:47. | |
because when the coroner ruled back in 2002 that dad's job had killed | :35:48. | :35:51. | |
him. He ruled industrial disease, it was then that the footballing | :35:52. | :35:57. | |
authorities should have taken this really seriously because people were | :35:58. | :36:00. | |
losing their lives, but when dad's brain was re-examined two years ago, | :36:01. | :36:06. | |
it was actually found that he didn't have Alzheimer's, he had got CTE and | :36:07. | :36:11. | |
he became the first British footballer to have been diagnosed, | :36:12. | :36:16. | |
that was the reason for his death. And of course, we know that the | :36:17. | :36:23. | |
disease has been found in NFL players and ice hockey players and | :36:24. | :36:26. | |
rugby players and our question has always been, when it has been | :36:27. | :36:30. | |
two-fold, one my dad was a footballer, how did he die of | :36:31. | :36:35. | |
boxer's brain? The second one is have we got a problem with dementia | :36:36. | :36:39. | |
in our former players? I really do think we have a serious problem. I | :36:40. | :36:43. | |
mean obviously on that, there is no proper answer to that from this | :36:44. | :36:48. | |
research because it is a small study and they are saying they need to | :36:49. | :36:52. | |
carry out further research. If terms of your situation, when did you and | :36:53. | :36:55. | |
your family first make a link between what happened to your dad | :36:56. | :37:05. | |
and heading the ball? I think it was virtually straightaway as soon as | :37:06. | :37:08. | |
dad was diagnosed. We couldn't understand how someone was so | :37:09. | :37:11. | |
physically fit and all the brain cells were dying at the front of the | :37:12. | :37:18. | |
brain. So it wasn't a surprise to us that the coroner's ruling of | :37:19. | :37:21. | |
industrial disease, but I think what did shock us when the pathologist at | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
the time stood in the court and described how badly damaged dad's | :37:27. | :37:30. | |
brain was. He said that there was considerable trauma throughout the | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
brain and it was the repeated heading of footballs that had caused | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
it. And when dad's brain was re-examined two years ago and CT was | :37:38. | :37:45. | |
found, the doctor Willie Stewart who performed or looked at dad's brain | :37:46. | :37:49. | |
again, he actually said to us if he hadn't of known that he was looking | :37:50. | :37:53. | |
at the brain of a man of 59, he would have thought he was looking at | :37:54. | :37:59. | |
the brain of a man of at least 89 or in his 90s. | :38:00. | :38:06. | |
We're talking about old-style footballs, leather footballs that | :38:07. | :38:09. | |
would get rain sodden and would weigh up to 3lbs when sodden with | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
water. Your dad, I think, described heading a football as being like | :38:14. | :38:17. | |
heading a bag of bricks? Yes, he did. Yes, he did. He did used to say | :38:18. | :38:22. | |
that, but it was part of the game and it was his job and that's what | :38:23. | :38:27. | |
he did and he was brilliant at it and it's just, you know, just really | :38:28. | :38:32. | |
sad and really tragic that when he died, you know, he was surrounded by | :38:33. | :38:39. | |
England caps and his FA Cup winners medal and his League Cup medal and | :38:40. | :38:43. | |
everything that he won in football, football had taken away because he | :38:44. | :38:47. | |
died not even knowing that he had ever been a footballer. | :38:48. | :38:54. | |
When industrial disease was mentioned by the coroner, did that | :38:55. | :38:58. | |
then lead you down the path of thinking well, there should be | :38:59. | :39:02. | |
compensation? Have you had any conversations about that? No, it | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
wasn't. I mean it was a landmark ruling of its kind and I think in | :39:08. | :39:13. | |
any other industry it would have had either quake repercussions for that | :39:14. | :39:20. | |
industry in question. But it seems, football and its privileged status | :39:21. | :39:25. | |
have been self governing and seem to wriggle out of it and that's wrong | :39:26. | :39:29. | |
because all we wanted was answers. Answers as to why dad had died. What | :39:30. | :39:36. | |
had killed him? And how many other players had been affected? We need | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
to know. All the families of all these other former players need to | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
know and more importantly, football needs to know. Peter, obviously | :39:45. | :39:50. | |
still a lot of unanswered questions, but what is your view of this | :39:51. | :39:54. | |
research and where it takes things? Well, I think Dawn has campaigned | :39:55. | :40:00. | |
tirelessly to get answers to these questions and if it were my dad I | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
would and wouldn't we all want answers to these questions and I | :40:06. | :40:08. | |
think she deserves answers to these questions as do the other families | :40:09. | :40:16. | |
and it's time the FA actually conducted a detailed and large scale | :40:17. | :40:22. | |
study so that they can have answers. What would your concerns be? There | :40:23. | :40:26. | |
will be people thinking my child plays football or I play football. | :40:27. | :40:33. | |
What should people be thinking about heading footballs? I know in the | :40:34. | :40:37. | |
United States there is a ban on kids under ten actually being able to | :40:38. | :40:41. | |
head footballs. Would you like to see something similar here? Well, my | :40:42. | :40:46. | |
two sons played football. And my grandson plays football and I played | :40:47. | :40:50. | |
football and I remember heading the very heavy leather footballs and | :40:51. | :40:53. | |
when they were wet, they were like heading a lump of concrete. So I | :40:54. | :40:57. | |
think there are two issues. The first one is the families deserve | :40:58. | :41:01. | |
answers to those questions. The second is, does this study, which | :41:02. | :41:06. | |
analysed the brains of six former footballers in detail, give us | :41:07. | :41:10. | |
sufficient evidence to make policy decisions about, you know, should | :41:11. | :41:15. | |
youngsters be heading balls? I think the answer is there is not enough | :41:16. | :41:19. | |
evidence with this study, but, you know, what it does clearly show is | :41:20. | :41:22. | |
there is a need for further research. Now, football is such a | :41:23. | :41:27. | |
wealthy game and you know, I have been looking back on old e-mails. | :41:28. | :41:33. | |
Three years ago I put the football authorities this touch with so. | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
Finest scientists in this field because they were asking about | :41:39. | :41:41. | |
conducting research. So I went out of my way to find those people, put | :41:42. | :41:46. | |
them in touch and absolutely nothing has happened and it's time that Dawn | :41:47. | :41:51. | |
got her answers and parents would then be in a position to assess the | :41:52. | :41:56. | |
risk and make sensible decisions going forward. I wouldn't want to | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
discourage youngsters from playing football because there are so many | :42:01. | :42:05. | |
health benefits, but we do need to get to the bottom of this. Dawn, | :42:06. | :42:09. | |
what's your view, do you have a view on whether kids should be heading a | :42:10. | :42:13. | |
ball? It's difficult because we need the evidence there to make informed | :42:14. | :42:16. | |
choice, that's what it is about, it is about making informed choices and | :42:17. | :42:21. | |
I think we all know, you know, the benefits of sports participation. We | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
all know that. But brain damage must never be seen as a acceptable | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
consequence of it. It must never be seen as that and that's why it is so | :42:32. | :42:36. | |
vitally important that the research is conducted and if I can go back to | :42:37. | :42:40. | |
the ball and yes, we know in dad's day it was incredibly heavy and it | :42:41. | :42:46. | |
absorbed the water. But we know that there is no evidence to suggest that | :42:47. | :42:50. | |
the modern day ball is any safer and that's purely because of the physics | :42:51. | :42:55. | |
of actually heading the ball. The modern day ball was slow and heavy, | :42:56. | :43:00. | |
but the modern day ball is lighter, but travels faster and the motion of | :43:01. | :43:04. | |
the brain being rocked backwards and forwards inside the skull is still | :43:05. | :43:07. | |
happening whether it be an old ball or a modern day ball. Thank you both | :43:08. | :43:12. | |
very much. Let us know your thoughts on that as well. The usual ways of | :43:13. | :43:14. | |
getting in touch. South Korea says it's certain | :43:15. | :43:20. | |
that the half-brother of North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un | :43:21. | :43:21. | |
has been killed in Malaysia. He was apparently poisoned in | :43:22. | :43:24. | |
an attack at Kuala Lumpur airport. His brother Kim Jong-un has been in | :43:25. | :43:33. | |
charge of North Korea since 2011. Let's take a look at what life | :43:34. | :43:45. | |
in the secretive state is like. It is being claimed that Kim | :43:46. | :47:01. | |
Jong-nam has been killed by North Korean agents. Why would they want | :47:02. | :47:09. | |
to do that? It is largely because of what he may have said previously | :47:10. | :47:17. | |
about his half brother. He has done interviews where he has been openly | :47:18. | :47:21. | |
critical of him and many have believed that for North Korean spy | :47:22. | :47:28. | |
agencies -- the North Korean spy agencies may have been trying to | :47:29. | :47:32. | |
reach him for some time. Most North Koreans may not know this because it | :47:33. | :47:37. | |
is a taboo subject inside their country, but Kim Jong-il, the father | :47:38. | :47:40. | |
of the current leader, had married several times and had many children | :47:41. | :47:46. | |
from different spouses. Ever since Kim Jong-il died, five years ago, | :47:47. | :47:52. | |
his eldest son, Kim Jong-nam, has spent most of his time overseas, | :47:53. | :47:57. | |
mostly in Asia. Many believe this was not by choice but from an | :47:58. | :48:01. | |
enforced exile, based on rivalry with his younger half brother, Kim | :48:02. | :48:06. | |
Jong-nam, the leader of North Korea. -- Kim Jong-il and -- Kim Jong-un, | :48:07. | :48:16. | |
who has a record for brutality and is believed to have ordered the | :48:17. | :48:20. | |
execution of his uncle in 2012. Are we ever likely to hear any proof for | :48:21. | :48:26. | |
evidence if it is North Korean agents behind this? Already, there | :48:27. | :48:34. | |
are fresh reports of a woman being detained as a suspect for the crime. | :48:35. | :48:39. | |
The Malaysian authorities earlier had released a photo of a young | :48:40. | :48:46. | |
Asian woman with heavy make up and casual clothes, believed to be one | :48:47. | :48:51. | |
of the assailants. Now the local media is reporting that several | :48:52. | :48:59. | |
others, possibly part of the same group, may be being pursued. | :49:00. | :49:05. | |
Initially, the South Korean media sourced an unnamed government | :49:06. | :49:07. | |
official that Kim Jong-nam was killed with a poisonous needle. | :49:08. | :49:13. | |
Other reports in the Lazier mentioned a spray and the latest | :49:14. | :49:17. | |
account seems to be that a woman had approached Mr Kim from behind and | :49:18. | :49:22. | |
covered his face with a cloth laced with liquid. -- from Malaysia. There | :49:23. | :49:27. | |
seems to have been some kind of physical contact with Mr Kimmince | :49:28. | :49:31. | |
was waiting at the airport. But based on all of these reports, it | :49:32. | :49:35. | |
seems highly likely an investigation is likely to take place, focusing on | :49:36. | :49:42. | |
a deliberate attempt of murder through poisoning, and an autopsy | :49:43. | :49:47. | |
may take place to reveal the exact cause of death. Some analysts | :49:48. | :49:49. | |
believe this could have been a deliberate attempt at assassination | :49:50. | :49:53. | |
by the leadership in Pyongyang. Thank you for joining us. Breaking | :49:54. | :49:59. | |
News that we are getting from the courts, that Rolf Harris will face a | :50:00. | :50:04. | |
retrial on three of the counts which a jury could not reach a verdict on | :50:05. | :50:07. | |
in his trial. One charge which the jury could not reach a verdict on, | :50:08. | :50:12. | |
he will not face retrial on, and he will also face another charge of | :50:13. | :50:15. | |
indecent assault against one of the alleged victims. He will be facing a | :50:16. | :50:21. | |
retrial on three counts after a jury could not reach a verdict in the | :50:22. | :50:24. | |
trial which ended last week. Data exclusively given to this | :50:25. | :50:32. | |
programme shows there's been a jump in the number of abortion pills | :50:33. | :50:37. | |
being bought online in mainland UK, despite the ability to access legal | :50:38. | :50:42. | |
services on the NHS. The British pregnancy advisory service says by | :50:43. | :50:45. | |
taking the pill they have bought online, women face life in prison | :50:46. | :50:48. | |
and they want the law changed. This is what we know. | :50:49. | :50:50. | |
The number of women in England, Scotland and Wales buying abortion | :50:51. | :50:52. | |
In 2013, five doses of the abortion pills were seized coming | :50:53. | :50:57. | |
Under current law, taking the pills can be punishable | :50:58. | :51:04. | |
by life imprisonment, no matter how far along | :51:05. | :51:06. | |
Two women have been sentenced to time in prison. | :51:07. | :51:12. | |
One terminated her pregnancy after 24 weeks and got | :51:13. | :51:15. | |
The other was almost at the end of her pregnancy, | :51:16. | :51:20. | |
But why would women take them when legal abortions | :51:21. | :51:25. | |
are available in England, Scotland and Wales anyway? | :51:26. | :51:29. | |
We've been hearing some anonymous testimonies. | :51:30. | :51:31. | |
I'm in the UK, but it's impossible for me to get to a clinic due | :51:32. | :51:34. | |
to having a disabled daughter that I just can't leave, and I have no | :51:35. | :51:38. | |
Clinics have said I have to leave my daughter at home, | :51:39. | :51:43. | |
but I have no one else at all to have her. | :51:44. | :51:46. | |
I was hoping to have a termination in the comfort of my own home, | :51:47. | :51:49. | |
without judgmental eyes and without worrying | :51:50. | :51:50. | |
Being a foreign student, I can't afford this country's | :51:51. | :51:57. | |
And the place in line for supported abortions is too | :51:58. | :52:02. | |
I feel absolutely horrible and desperate. | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
The British Pregnancy Advisory Service says it's time to bring | :52:08. | :52:10. | |
women's reproductive healthcare into the 21st century, and remove | :52:11. | :52:13. | |
Ann Furedi is the chief executive of the British Pregnancy Advisory | :52:14. | :52:26. | |
Service and wants women to be able to buy the pills legally. | :52:27. | :52:32. | |
And Scanlon works for a pro-life charity and believes abortion pills | :52:33. | :52:35. | |
should be illegal. Dr Rebecca Gomperts is from Women | :52:36. | :52:37. | |
on Web, who sell abortion pills Thank you for joining us. Rebecca, | :52:38. | :52:50. | |
first, tell us why you are selling the pills online. Who is buying | :52:51. | :52:54. | |
them? I just want to correct this. We don't sell pills online. This is | :52:55. | :53:01. | |
an online service which is providing help to women that need it. So you | :53:02. | :53:07. | |
connect people who want the pills... We sent e-mails to women all over | :53:08. | :53:10. | |
the world, sometimes advising them to try to find medicines locally, | :53:11. | :53:15. | |
and women from the UK, for example, we always referred to the existing | :53:16. | :53:18. | |
abortion services that are there. But what we have noticed from the | :53:19. | :53:24. | |
e-mails that we get is that a lot of women in the UK really have trouble | :53:25. | :53:29. | |
accessing existing services. That is because indeed it is much too | :53:30. | :53:34. | |
regulated, much too restricted. This problem can only be solved when | :53:35. | :53:38. | |
medical abortions, for example, are available through a perception in | :53:39. | :53:43. | |
pharmacies. Tell us then, the sort of women from the UK who are getting | :53:44. | :53:48. | |
pills via your website. You say it is too regulated but abortion is | :53:49. | :53:51. | |
obviously available legally in the UK, as long as you go to the doctor. | :53:52. | :53:58. | |
And it is free on the NHS. Yes, it is free on the NHS but it is not | :53:59. | :54:03. | |
always easy for women to access the free services. For example, foreign | :54:04. | :54:08. | |
students don't have NHS coverage. They have to pay for their own | :54:09. | :54:11. | |
abortions and sometimes it is up to ?500. Some of the illegal women that | :54:12. | :54:18. | |
live in the UK, a woman that has emigrated and works as a cleaning | :54:19. | :54:22. | |
lady somewhere, they don't have ?500 to pay for an abortion and they are | :54:23. | :54:27. | |
not covered by the NHS. By the way, this is not just a problem in the | :54:28. | :54:33. | |
UK. But I want to focus specifically on the UK so I want to bring in Ann | :54:34. | :54:42. | |
Furedi, and the number of people getting these pills from U:K.'s | :54:43. | :54:46. | |
increasing, to what extent? We heard about the numbers of pills that have | :54:47. | :54:49. | |
been stopped coming into the country but we don't really know how many | :54:50. | :54:53. | |
women are buying them. But it is ridiculous that women in this | :54:54. | :54:56. | |
country should feel the need to do that. That is really where the crime | :54:57. | :55:02. | |
is. There are two big problems. One is that these abortion pills, which | :55:03. | :55:08. | |
are extremely safe and which effectively cause a very early | :55:09. | :55:13. | |
miscarriage, they are incredibly safe for women to use and yet... But | :55:14. | :55:17. | |
you can get them from the doctor, Kyron Duke, for an early miscarriage | :55:18. | :55:21. | |
under medical supervision but where it is illegal is buying it online | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
and people are using them when it is not for early miscarriage. No, the | :55:26. | :55:29. | |
point is abortion in this country is only available in hospitals and in | :55:30. | :55:34. | |
specially licensed clinics like ours. With this, you have a kind of | :55:35. | :55:41. | |
medication that it is perfectly appropriate for a woman to use in | :55:42. | :55:44. | |
her own home and yet she is required to either go to a hospital with the | :55:45. | :55:50. | |
facilities or a clinic like ours. In other countries around the world, | :55:51. | :55:54. | |
women can get them from their family doctor, or indeed, in some | :55:55. | :55:57. | |
countries, they can get them on prescription from a pharmacist. But | :55:58. | :56:01. | |
in this country, the problem is abortion, even when it is this early | :56:02. | :56:09. | |
in the pregnancy, and it is a straightforward -- as | :56:10. | :56:11. | |
straightforward as taking tablets come is as regulated as much later | :56:12. | :56:21. | |
termination. But this is illegal, and Ann Scanlon, what is your | :56:22. | :56:26. | |
perspective, should it stay illegal? The problem is, the women you have | :56:27. | :56:29. | |
given examples of is that these people do not meet the criteria of | :56:30. | :56:36. | |
the abortion act. And as you say, abortion has been decriminalised. | :56:37. | :56:39. | |
Neither of these women would have been given an abortion in this | :56:40. | :56:43. | |
country. It is very hard for me to imagine why someone who has a | :56:44. | :56:46. | |
full-term baby, and I'm astonished that I would support that, should be | :56:47. | :56:50. | |
able to abort a full-term baby in the comfort of their living room. | :56:51. | :56:57. | |
Not specifically necessarily on that but abortion pills, if they are | :56:58. | :57:00. | |
bought online at all by someone when they are using up -- them at an | :57:01. | :57:04. | |
early stage, is it right to criminalise someone for that? I | :57:05. | :57:08. | |
wouldn't like to see women criminalise but I would criminalise | :57:09. | :57:12. | |
the providers. I was surprised to discover there are more than twice | :57:13. | :57:15. | |
as many complications from medical abortions as there are from surgical | :57:16. | :57:20. | |
abortions. I find it quite astonishing. That is not true. Look | :57:21. | :57:25. | |
at the statistics. The Department of Health statistics, I looked them up | :57:26. | :57:31. | |
yesterday. Hang on, let the response happen. It is simply not true. The | :57:32. | :57:37. | |
point about these drugs is that they are less risky than many of the | :57:38. | :57:41. | |
drugs that we buy over-the-counter in pharmacies. They are less risky | :57:42. | :57:48. | |
than aspirin, for example. That is the cause of many deaths. However, | :57:49. | :57:54. | |
the issue is, is that abortion is often not straightforward and no one | :57:55. | :58:02. | |
wants women driven to buying tablets online and certainly, nobody wants | :58:03. | :58:07. | |
women to be stepping outside of the law. But in this case, the law is | :58:08. | :58:12. | |
constructive in a way that is archaic. Your argument is nonsense. | :58:13. | :58:20. | |
Maggie Lieu we don't want women to be sent to prison. Let Ann Scanlon | :58:21. | :58:28. | |
comeback on this. This woman to Jordan abortion at 39 weeks and it's | :58:29. | :58:32. | |
about that last year there were 209 complications of medical abortions | :58:33. | :58:35. | |
before a woman even left the clinic. I find it astonishing that an | :58:36. | :58:39. | |
organisation who knows the health risks and the complications would | :58:40. | :58:42. | |
even attempt to put women's lives at risk in this manner. I think it is | :58:43. | :58:46. | |
astonishing. We are out of time but thank you for joining us. Let us | :58:47. | :58:50. | |
know your thoughts on that. We'd love to hear from you if you have | :58:51. | :58:56. | |
bought abortion pills online or thought about it. The usual ways of | :58:57. | :58:57. | |
getting in touch. Let's get the latest weather | :58:58. | :58:59. | |
update - with Matt Taylor. A sense spring in the air as part as | :59:00. | :59:06. | |
the weather is concerned, 40 degrees on the Isle of Skye yesterday and | :59:07. | :59:10. | |
close to that for one or two today. Rainfall south-west England and | :59:11. | :59:12. | |
through the day it will spread its way into the south-east, the | :59:13. | :59:16. | |
Midlands and North West by the start of the afternoon, reaching the | :59:17. | :59:18. | |
eastern coast of England and South West Scotland by the evening. | :59:19. | :59:21. | |
Blustery showers in Northern Ireland but staying sunny, could hit 13 of | :59:22. | :59:26. | |
the Moray Firth, and brighter in Wales and the south-west later with | :59:27. | :59:30. | |
13 possible here as well. A slightly milder regime but cooler tonight | :59:31. | :59:33. | |
than last night across England and Wales with clearer skies and some | :59:34. | :59:36. | |
mist and fog to the south but a mild night to come for Scotland and | :59:37. | :59:39. | |
Northern Ireland with quite a blustery wind and occasional | :59:40. | :59:43. | |
showers. Going into Thursday, the southern half of the UK largely dry | :59:44. | :59:47. | |
with sunshine, mist and fog gradually clearing, lots more | :59:48. | :59:50. | |
sunshine for England and Wales tomorrow. Scotland and Northern | :59:51. | :59:53. | |
Ireland, passing showers every now and again, some of them on the heavy | :59:54. | :59:58. | |
side and quite a wind. Temperature wise, should be about eight this | :59:59. | :00:01. | |
time of year but most of you above that and the trend will continue | :00:02. | :00:04. | |
through the rest of the week and into the start of next week. | :00:05. | :00:06. | |
Temperatures above where they should be for the time of year and by | :00:07. | :00:10. | |
Monday, one or two could be getting 16 or 17. Goodbye. | :00:11. | :00:18. | |
A woman has been arrested in connection with the murder of Kim | :00:19. | :00:34. | |
Jong-nam. Kim Jong-nam was believed to be | :00:35. | :00:39. | |
attacked while he waited for a flight at Kuala Lumpur Airport. | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
Repeatedly heading footballs during a player's career could be | :00:44. | :00:45. | |
New research adds call for changes to the rules, | :00:46. | :00:49. | |
The coroner ruled back in 2002 that dad's job had killed him. He ruled | :00:50. | :01:02. | |
industrial disease. It was then that the footballing authorities should | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
have taken this really seriously because people were losing their | :01:07. | :01:07. | |
lives. Author Philip Pullman has | :01:08. | :01:17. | |
announced the publication of the long-awaited follow-up | :01:18. | :01:19. | |
to his best-selling His Dark The new trilogy is called The Book | :01:20. | :01:21. | |
of Dust and the first novel will come out in October, | :01:22. | :01:25. | |
17 years after the last instalment. Here's Reeta in the BBC Newsroom | :01:26. | :01:32. | |
with a summary of today's news. In the last hour, Malaysian police | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
have told the BBC they've arrested two people in connection | :01:37. | :01:39. | |
with the death of Kim Jong-nam, the half-brother of North Korean | :01:40. | :01:41. | |
leader Kim Jong-un. One of those arrested is a woman | :01:42. | :01:43. | |
holding a Vietnamese passport. The other is a taxi driver who has | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
since been released. Kim Jong-nam died after an apparent | :01:47. | :01:49. | |
poison attack at the airport South Korea says they believe he was | :01:50. | :01:51. | |
killed by North Korean agents. North Korea has not commented | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
on the death but officials from the country's embassy | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
in Malaysia have been visiting the hospital in Kuala Lumpur | :02:00. | :02:01. | |
where Mr Kim's body has been taken. The macian authorities released a | :02:02. | :02:22. | |
photo of a young Asian woman with heavy make-up in casual clothes | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
believed to be one of the assailant's. Now the local media is | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
reporting that several others possibly part of the same group, | :02:32. | :02:40. | |
maybe being pursued. Initially the South Korean media sourced an | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
unnamed individual that Kim Jong-nam was killed with a poisonous needle. | :02:45. | :02:48. | |
Then other reports in Malaysia mentioned a spray and the latest | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
account seems to be that a woman had approached Mr Kim from behind and | :02:53. | :02:59. | |
covered his face with a cloth laced with a liquid. There seems to be | :03:00. | :03:02. | |
some kind of physical contact with Mr Kim as he was waiting at the | :03:03. | :03:08. | |
airport. But based on all of these reports, it seems highly likely an | :03:09. | :03:13. | |
investigation is likely to take place focussed on a deliberate | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
attempt of murder through poisoning and an autopsy may take place to | :03:18. | :03:23. | |
reveal the exact cause of death. Some analysts believe this could | :03:24. | :03:28. | |
have been a deliberate attempt at ais as is as nation by the | :03:29. | :03:33. | |
leadership. -- ash assassination. | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
Figures out this morning show that unemployment fell in the last | :03:39. | :03:41. | |
The number of people out of work dropped by 7,000 | :03:42. | :03:44. | |
to 1.6 million in the three months to December. | :03:45. | :03:46. | |
Meanwhile, average earnings rose by 2.6% | :03:47. | :03:48. | |
That's down 0.2% on the equivalent figure for the previous month. | :03:49. | :03:52. | |
The US media are reporting that members of President Trump's | :03:53. | :03:54. | |
campaign team had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence | :03:55. | :03:56. | |
officials in the year before the US presidential election. | :03:57. | :03:59. | |
It follows the resignation of the National Security Adviser, | :04:00. | :04:01. | |
General Mike Flynn, over allegations surrounding a phone call he had | :04:02. | :04:04. | |
with a senior Russian diplomat before President Trump took power. | :04:05. | :04:09. | |
It follows the resignation of the National Security Adviser, | :04:10. | :04:18. | |
General Mike Flynn, over allegations surrounding a phone call he had | :04:19. | :04:21. | |
with a senior Russian diplomat before President Trump took power. | :04:22. | :04:23. | |
General Flynn quit after it was revealed he had misled | :04:24. | :04:26. | |
the White House over the nature of the call. | :04:27. | :04:28. | |
It's alleged he discussed the future of US sanctions on Russia. | :04:29. | :04:30. | |
Senior Republicans have joined calls for | :04:31. | :04:32. | |
Ukip has rejected an offer of resignation from one of its press | :04:33. | :04:36. | |
officers who was responsible for misleading personal information | :04:37. | :04:38. | |
about the Hillsborough disaster contained on the website of party | :04:39. | :04:40. | |
Mr Nuttall admitted yesterday, in an appearance | :04:41. | :04:43. | |
on Liverpool's Radio City Talk, that claims that he's lost | :04:44. | :04:45. | |
a close, personal friend in the tragedy were untrue. | :04:46. | :04:47. | |
He said he hadn't written or seen the information on his website | :04:48. | :04:50. | |
Rolf Harris is to face a retrial on three sex offence charges | :04:51. | :04:56. | |
following the failure by a jury at Southwark Crown Court | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
The 86-year-old former TV personality will also face | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
Last week, he was found not guilty on three counts, | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
with the jury unable to reach a verdict on four other charges. | :05:08. | :05:21. | |
Researchers studied the brains of six former players who died from | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
dementia and discovered that some of them had a form of the disease | :05:27. | :05:29. | |
linked to repeated blows to the head. | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
The number of abortion pills being bought online | :05:35. | :05:36. | |
in Britain is on the rise, according to data shown to | :05:37. | :05:38. | |
Government figures show 375 doses, sent to addresses in England, | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
Wales and Scotland, were seized in 2016, compared | :05:43. | :05:44. | |
Taking the pills while pregnant without medical approval | :05:45. | :05:47. | |
Hundreds of people in the New Zealand city of Christchurch | :05:48. | :05:56. | |
have been evacuated as wildfires threatened houses in its suburbs. | :05:57. | :05:59. | |
A state of emergency has been declared and the military called | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
in to help battle the blaze in the city's southern | :06:04. | :06:05. | |
It is thought the fire has destroyed at least seven houses and forced | :06:06. | :06:11. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :06:12. | :06:18. | |
Three-quarters of police forces in England and Wales say record | :06:19. | :06:31. | |
levels of hate crimes were reported in the three months | :06:32. | :06:33. | |
The European giants Barcelona are thrashed 4-0 in the last 16 | :06:34. | :06:56. | |
of the Champions League by Paris St-Germain to leave them | :06:57. | :06:58. | |
in danger of failing to reach the quarter-finals for the first | :06:59. | :07:01. | |
Angel di Maria scored twice for PSG on his 29th birthday, | :07:02. | :07:04. | |
Then Julian Draxler smashed in a second before Di Maria curled | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
Another PSG birthday boy Edinson Cavani and then sealed | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
a famous win with a powerful fourth on the day he turned 30. | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
In last night's other game, Benfica beat Borussia | :07:19. | :07:20. | |
The goal scored by former Fulham striker Kostas Mitroglou. | :07:21. | :07:30. | |
Arsenal play the first leg of their last 16 tie away to Bayern Munich. | :07:31. | :07:36. | |
Arsene Wenger's side has been nobbled out of that stage in last of | :07:37. | :07:43. | |
the six years. Despite their poor record, Arsene | :07:44. | :07:45. | |
Wenger says there is to reason they can't put it right. | :07:46. | :07:52. | |
I feel we have the experience. We play against Bayern every year with | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
the same target. It is to win the Champions League and when you look | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
at their record, they are always basically in the last four. So it's | :08:01. | :08:06. | |
a massive challenge, but I think we are capable of dealing with it. | :08:07. | :08:14. | |
Former Sunderland striker Asamoah Gyan is among a group | :08:15. | :08:16. | |
of more than 40 players deemed to have "unethical hair" under | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
United Arab Emirates Football Association guidelines. | :08:20. | :08:21. | |
The Ghanaian is on loan at Dubai-based Arabian Gulf League | :08:22. | :08:23. | |
In 2012, Saudi Arabia goalkeeper Waleed Abdullah was told | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
to cut his "un-Islamic" hair by the referee before playing | :08:30. | :08:32. | |
The BBC has asked for clarification on its guidelines | :08:33. | :08:40. | |
Floyd Mayweather Jr denies reports he's already agreed a bout | :08:41. | :08:45. | |
with Conor McGregor, but has called on the UFC champion | :08:46. | :08:47. | |
Mayweather retired from boxing for a second time in September 2015. | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
McGregor has never fought a professional boxing match | :08:52. | :08:54. | |
There was double British success at the awards last night. Rachel | :08:55. | :09:08. | |
Atherton won Sports Person of the Year and Leicester City won the | :09:09. | :09:14. | |
Spirit of Sport Award. Leicester's manager was on hand to accept the | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
award. The American gymnast won the Sports Woman of the Year gong. Usain | :09:21. | :09:26. | |
Bolt took up a record equalling fourth award in the men's category. | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
That's all the sport for now. I'll have the headlines at 10.30am. | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
Rolf Harris is to face a retrial on three sex offence charges. | :09:37. | :09:39. | |
He will also face another charge of indecent assault. | :09:40. | :09:41. | |
Our correspondent Dan Johnson is at Southwark Crown Court. | :09:42. | :09:43. | |
What can you tell us, Dan? A retrial on 15th May. There were four charges | :09:44. | :09:53. | |
that the jury here last week at the end of his trial couldn't reach a | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
verdict on. This morning, the Crown Prosecution Service has said it | :09:58. | :10:01. | |
wants to take three of those charges forward to a retrial, but one of | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
them will be split into two separate accounts. So there are four charges | :10:06. | :10:09. | |
that Mr Harris faces. That new charge was put to him this morning | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
and he pleaded not guilty. He has not been here in court. He appeared | :10:14. | :10:19. | |
via videolink from prison because he is already serving a sentence | :10:20. | :10:22. | |
because of convictions that he was found guilty of back in 2014. He was | :10:23. | :10:29. | |
expecting to be released from that original sentence in July. So it | :10:30. | :10:32. | |
appears the retrial has been scheduled to take place before that | :10:33. | :10:35. | |
possible release so he should know his fate before he was originally | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
expecting to be released from prison. This morning his defence has | :10:39. | :10:42. | |
also raised with the judge the possibility of a further appeal | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
against those original convictions. That's something they've already | :10:47. | :10:48. | |
tried once and haven't been allowed to proceed with. Again, fresh | :10:49. | :10:56. | |
questions were raised with the judge and a suggestion his defence team | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
may push for an appeal of those convictions, but he will be fighting | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
the trial expected to start here in May. Thank you very much, Dan. | :11:04. | :11:11. | |
For the first time, a scientific study has found a possible link | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
between head injuries and brain damage in former footballers. | :11:15. | :11:16. | |
Researchers studied the brains of six former players | :11:17. | :11:18. | |
who had died from dementia, and discovered that some of them had | :11:19. | :11:21. | |
a form of the disease linked to repeated blows to the head. | :11:22. | :11:24. | |
We can speak to former footballers Ian St John, | :11:25. | :11:27. | |
Kevin Davies, Gordon Smith and child's football | :11:28. | :11:29. | |
Thank you all very much indeed for joining us. Ian, I wanted to come to | :11:30. | :11:40. | |
you first. You played for Liverpool from 1961 to 1971 and a large number | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
of your former team-mates have got dementia, haven't they? Just tell us | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
what you have seen. Well, I mean, we're talking about that age group | :11:51. | :11:58. | |
that played at that time. Of my team-mates, six of them, six in a | :11:59. | :12:04. | |
group of at that time, there wasn't big squads of players. I would say | :12:05. | :12:08. | |
in a group of maybe 16 players you've got six of them that has got | :12:09. | :12:14. | |
Alzheimer's. So, it is quite, you know, a large percentage I think. | :12:15. | :12:17. | |
Yes, I mean the research today does not give a sort of definitive answer | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
as to whether football would be the cause of that. It is a limited | :12:23. | :12:29. | |
study, but from your experience anecdotally, the knock to the head | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
that you would have taken playing and heading the old-fashioned | :12:35. | :12:38. | |
leather footballs, what are your thoughts? Well, for people of my | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
vintage, I would say, you know, all of the facts that we have got stand | :12:44. | :12:49. | |
up. I don't know why the FA and the PFA have covered this up for years. | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
I mean I talked about it to the PFA a couple of years ago and their | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
answer was, "Well, women get Alzheimer's so therefore, it's not | :13:00. | :13:05. | |
an industrial injury." With a football." It is a load of nonsense. | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
I do think the studies that are being done now will prove the point | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
that the heading the ball, that heavy ball, in our era, I don't know | :13:15. | :13:19. | |
about today's light ball, in our era heading that heavy ball day in and | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
day out, it is not the matches, it is training as well, so you're | :13:24. | :13:28. | |
banging the heavy balls and the lads now, at this stage of their lives | :13:29. | :13:34. | |
are either dying or have dementia. I want to bring in Kevin, you are a | :13:35. | :13:40. | |
former player. Are you surprised about what the research is | :13:41. | :13:44. | |
indicating potentially on there being a link between heading the | :13:45. | :13:48. | |
ball and dementia? Good morning. I wouldn't say I'm surprised. When you | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
start to look at the numbers in terms of professional players, the | :13:53. | :13:54. | |
amount of contact they have with the ball, if you look at my career for | :13:55. | :14:00. | |
instance, over 800 career games and you take into training and all the | :14:01. | :14:04. | |
training methods and things, the numbers start to stack up, it could | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
be between 10,000 and 50,000 times that you're heading the ball and | :14:09. | :14:11. | |
listening to Ian, they are different. The ball has changed a | :14:12. | :14:14. | |
lot. The training methods have changed a lot now. You see some | :14:15. | :14:19. | |
sessions where you were hurling balls to the deaders and pinging the | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
ball at pace for them to head the balls. It was scary at the time. | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
That has changed and the style of football has changed a lot. But | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
there needs to be more research and more evidence with the new | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
footballs, they are lighter compared to back in the 50s and 60s. When you | :14:35. | :14:41. | |
say it was scary at the time. Did you ever feel any effects of it? No, | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
not particularly. I'm well renowned for heading the ball and we used to | :14:47. | :14:53. | |
get the stats back, it can be between 45 and 20 times. The one | :14:54. | :15:01. | |
that concerns me most is from the goalkeepers, ball if hand and the | :15:02. | :15:04. | |
centre-back is coming to head the ball. You're challenging for the | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
ball and there is the concussions, we saw Gary Cahill and Ryan Mason | :15:10. | :15:14. | |
clashing heads and they could have long-term effects further down the | :15:15. | :15:17. | |
line, but playing con tableg sport, there will be a ricks. We know that | :15:18. | :15:22. | |
as sports machine and they are the risks we're prepared to take, I | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
think. Do you think it is the job though of the gof rning bodies to | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
look properly and maybe think about changes if there is a link? | :15:33. | :15:37. | |
Yes, this is based on 14 players and they examine six brains, and in four | :15:38. | :15:44. | |
cases, they are looking for the CD which they only can when someone is | :15:45. | :15:48. | |
deceased. There is definitely better science available now, MRI scans, | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
but to do more research into this will take another 15-20 years, I | :15:53. | :15:57. | |
believe, if they start now. I think the PFA have got an expert | :15:58. | :16:00. | |
concussion panel in place and are speaking to the FA and it is trying | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
to divide the right methods and find a way of getting the right research | :16:07. | :16:11. | |
done and how they will monitor that over a person's career. It needs to | :16:12. | :16:17. | |
be done, and if there is a problem, it needs to be something we look | :16:18. | :16:20. | |
into in terms of protecting young children. As a father myself, I | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
don't see a lot of heading with young children and I know they | :16:25. | :16:26. | |
banned it in the United States for under 11th. Having watched | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
grassroots football for a number of years, I don't see a lot of children | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
heading balls so it is not a bit -- major concern for me now. Nathan, | :16:35. | :16:39. | |
you coach children playing football. What is your view of kids heading | :16:40. | :16:46. | |
the ball? Just to reiterate some of Ian and Kevin's points, really, you | :16:47. | :16:50. | |
know, the latest footballs that are used have come a long way since | :16:51. | :16:57. | |
Ian's days and the technology around the ball, where it is more synthetic | :16:58. | :17:05. | |
leather than a solid casing. But as Kevin said, in grassroots football, | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
you don't see a lot of kids heading the ball and really, it is how much | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
is done at training, obviously, you have to limit the amount and think | :17:14. | :17:17. | |
about it. And obviously, with the findings and the studies, you have | :17:18. | :17:23. | |
to take it into account. When you say you don't see a lot of kids | :17:24. | :17:25. | |
heading the ball, if it actively discouraged? Oh, it is just because | :17:26. | :17:33. | |
of the physicality of the children. -- no, it is just. Especially at the | :17:34. | :17:39. | |
other end, they aren't going to kick it 20 feet into the sky for it to | :17:40. | :17:44. | |
come down and other kids to be encouraged to head the ball. It is | :17:45. | :17:49. | |
more round the fact it is never really off the floor. Gordon Smith, | :17:50. | :17:55. | |
a former Scotland international and former chief executive of the SFA. | :17:56. | :18:01. | |
Have the football associations, the professional bodies, been active | :18:02. | :18:05. | |
enough on this? Not as yet but they are looking at it now. Certainly, | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
going back to the fact I'm Ambassador of the Scottish youth | :18:12. | :18:13. | |
football Association and they are looking at it because they | :18:14. | :18:15. | |
understand what has happened in America regarding the ban on | :18:16. | :18:22. | |
children heading the ball from 11 downwards. I agree with what Kevin | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
and Nathan have both said, I see football at the younger level and | :18:28. | :18:33. | |
because now the game has changed because it is seven aside until the | :18:34. | :18:36. | |
kids are 12, the ball is very rarely in the air so the kids don't head | :18:37. | :18:40. | |
the ball as much now as they used to, no doubt about that. The second | :18:41. | :18:43. | |
aspect of it is the fact that the balls are different from Ian's day, | :18:44. | :18:49. | |
coming into the game at first, the balls have improved a lot, they were | :18:50. | :18:52. | |
very heavily and a lot of the damage was done because of those kinds of | :18:53. | :18:55. | |
balls and people doing a lot of heading practice, no doubt about it. | :18:56. | :19:04. | |
A recent study was done which had a few kids, a few young players, | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
heading the ball 20 times each and then they did a test on them and | :19:09. | :19:12. | |
they found that their memory had deteriorated over a 24-hour period | :19:13. | :19:16. | |
after heading 20 balls. It shows you that there is still damage being | :19:17. | :19:21. | |
done from heading able and an effect from doing it. -- a ball. Certainly, | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
we need to stop and make sure the kids don't do it while their brains | :19:27. | :19:32. | |
are developing and then maybe at an older age, we need to consider the | :19:33. | :19:39. | |
fact it is as little as possible in training. So when you say make sure | :19:40. | :19:43. | |
the kids don't do it, as in something as specific as the ban in | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
the US? Yes, I think it will come in here. I think it will come to this | :19:49. | :19:55. | |
country too. I would say from 12 years and other accommodation have | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
no heading the ball at all. The -- 12 years and under, they should have | :20:01. | :20:04. | |
no heading the ball. These concerns have been around a long time but | :20:05. | :20:06. | |
this is the best research of its kind that has been done. Have the | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
professional footballing bodies been remiss in not taking this issue | :20:11. | :20:18. | |
seriously previously, and commissioning research? They have | :20:19. | :20:21. | |
been, there should have been something on it. You can imagine | :20:22. | :20:24. | |
some time in the future, there might be a scenario where each player has | :20:25. | :20:30. | |
do sign a disclaimer to say that they know they are taking a risk and | :20:31. | :20:33. | |
regardless of what happens to them in the future regarding brainpower, | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
maybe getting Alzheimer's, that they sign a disclaimer to say that if | :20:38. | :20:40. | |
they are playing football, they are taking a risk and therefore they | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
will not sue the clubs because that is the biggest threat, that is why | :20:45. | :20:50. | |
they are looking at it, they have introduced it in that part of the | :20:51. | :20:53. | |
world in terms of doing something but a lot of people in this country, | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
there should have been some kind of compensation for the relatives | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
affected. What is your view on that, Ian? The issue of compensation for | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
people playing from your era? That is actually the big point about the | :21:07. | :21:12. | |
whole thing. The FA and the PFA are just hiding behind, you know, | :21:13. | :21:16. | |
whatever facts they have got. They don't want to be paying out for what | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
would be classed as an industrial injury. You know, I went to the PFA | :21:20. | :21:26. | |
a couple of years ago on the same topic, two years ago and said," | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
friends of mine from Liverpool, they all seem to be getting dementia". | :21:32. | :21:37. | |
They went, "OK, leave it with us", and they came back and said, "It has | :21:38. | :21:40. | |
nothing to do with football because women get dementia". Of course they | :21:41. | :21:48. | |
do but football and the footballs we headed for years caused this and | :21:49. | :21:51. | |
they are denying it. They are in denial about it. Sorry to interrupt | :21:52. | :21:57. | |
but you headed the ball, presumably. I did. Have you had any concerns | :21:58. | :22:05. | |
yourself? I don't know how it works, why lads who headed the ball like I | :22:06. | :22:09. | |
did, and I get a bit forgetful but I don't have the big problem. This is | :22:10. | :22:15. | |
another thing, when they are doing all of these surveys, why don't they | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
do one about goalkeepers? How many goalkeepers have got dementia over | :22:21. | :22:24. | |
the years? Professional ones. If they did a survey, it would be | :22:25. | :22:28. | |
interesting if there were none, which means that the goalkeeper, the | :22:29. | :22:32. | |
only guy on the field who is not really heading the ball, who is | :22:33. | :22:35. | |
eight -- is OK. It is the outfield players who get it. Should there be | :22:36. | :22:41. | |
a ban on children under 12 heading the ball? I'm worried about that | :22:42. | :22:44. | |
because my grandchildren play football and they are in that age | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
group. I would say, they are changing the way the game is played | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
at that level, no kicking the ball over head height and so on so you | :22:54. | :22:56. | |
don't have too high it, keep it on the carpet and pass around. That's | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
fine. It is a form of football but heading the ball as a whiz been a | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
big part of football. Thank you for joining us. Let us know your | :23:06. | :23:07. | |
thoughts on this as usual. Unemployment | :23:08. | :23:10. | |
has fallen yet again, while the average amount people earn | :23:11. | :23:12. | |
has gone up. We'll be getting some analysis | :23:13. | :23:15. | |
on what these latest figures say Three-quarters of police forces | :23:16. | :23:17. | |
in England and Wales say record levels of hate crimes were reported | :23:18. | :23:26. | |
in the three months More than 14,000 offences were | :23:27. | :23:29. | |
recorded between July and September. The Equality and Human Rights | :23:30. | :23:36. | |
Commission said the findings suggested a small number of people | :23:37. | :23:39. | |
used the Brexit vote to legitimise Our home affairs correspondent | :23:40. | :23:42. | |
Dominic Casciani is here Tell us more about the figures. Last | :23:43. | :23:58. | |
October, we had the first official figures, the first official attempt | :23:59. | :24:00. | |
to work out what had happened after Brexit because we had all of those | :24:01. | :24:04. | |
stories in the days after the vote that there had been attacks or | :24:05. | :24:08. | |
harassment of minorities, particularly Eastern Europeans, in | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
some parts of the country. The figures in October revealed about | :24:12. | :24:15. | |
5500 incidents in weeks immediately after the referendum, 40% higher | :24:16. | :24:19. | |
than the same period 12 months previously. Now what we have had is | :24:20. | :24:26. | |
a three-month total, four July, August and September across all | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
police forces. It tells us there were 14,000 hate crimes across the | :24:32. | :24:35. | |
forces in England and Wales. There is no comparable data for Northern | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
Ireland and Scotland. That means hate crime over that period was up | :24:40. | :24:46. | |
about 27%. 33 of the 44 forces, three quarters, saw their highest | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
ever levels of hate crime recorded, effectively since records began in | :24:51. | :24:57. | |
2012. Ten of the forces saw rises over 50% although four did the fall. | :24:58. | :25:03. | |
It is a very complicated picture and in theory, it looks like 2016 is | :25:04. | :25:06. | |
heading for a record year but I don't think we can say that yet | :25:07. | :25:09. | |
because there are discrepancies about how individual forces deal | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
with the data and what they classed as a hate crime. In the core data | :25:14. | :25:18. | |
which is the key offences of things like assault and harassment and | :25:19. | :25:23. | |
aggravated criminal damage like to mosques and synagogues, that kind of | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
things, there was clearly arise. What about geographical areas where | :25:28. | :25:33. | |
there were rises? Can you draw any conclusions? It is interesting, what | :25:34. | :25:36. | |
is going on, in percentage terms, Dorset and Nottinghamshire saw the | :25:37. | :25:42. | |
highest rises, 100% and 75% respectively in the number of | :25:43. | :25:45. | |
recorded incidents of people coming to them and saying what had | :25:46. | :25:49. | |
happened. You have to be cautious because the numbers within that are | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
quite small. Greater Manchester and West Yorkshire Police each recorded | :25:54. | :25:57. | |
about 1000 incidents which makes sense because they are big | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
metropolitan areas, Leeds, Bradford, Manchester and so forth. The | :26:02. | :26:04. | |
Metropolitan Police, 3500 incidents in London. What we think is that it | :26:05. | :26:11. | |
is difficult to drill down to what is happening across the country. | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
Like looking at Merseyside, a good example, they had quite a strong | :26:16. | :26:20. | |
Brexit vote but the rise in hate crime did not necessarily correlate | :26:21. | :26:24. | |
with that. There will be lots of thinking by academics and police | :26:25. | :26:27. | |
chiefs about what is really going on. And a word of caution, one thing | :26:28. | :26:31. | |
the police think is happening is that there is increased reporting | :26:32. | :26:35. | |
going on because more people are confident in coming forward and | :26:36. | :26:38. | |
telling them what is going on. It is similar to sexual offences in that | :26:39. | :26:41. | |
sense which had lower reporting for years but when the police started | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
going out and telling victims of rape to come forward and say what | :26:46. | :26:48. | |
happened, more people came forward and some of this rise may be | :26:49. | :26:51. | |
ultimately down to that. Thank you for joining us. | :26:52. | :26:53. | |
As we learn more about what happened to the half-brother of North Korea's | :26:54. | :26:57. | |
leader, we'll be speaking to a writer and regular visitor | :26:58. | :26:59. | |
to the country to find out what life is like in the secretive state. | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
Fans of the fiction writer Philip Pullman better take a seat. | :27:04. | :27:06. | |
The author has announced the publication of the long-awaited | :27:07. | :27:09. | |
follow-up to his best-selling series, His Dark Materials, | :27:10. | :27:11. | |
Reeta Chakrabarti is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary | :27:12. | :27:23. | |
Malaysian police say they have arrested a woman and are searching | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
for several other suspects as they investigate the sudden | :27:29. | :27:31. | |
death of Kim Jong-Nam, the half-brother of North Korean | :27:32. | :27:33. | |
Earlier, police said they released a taxi driver who they also arrested | :27:34. | :27:39. | |
Kim Jong-Nam died after an apparent poison attack | :27:40. | :27:43. | |
South Korea says they believe he was killed by North Korean agents. | :27:44. | :27:48. | |
North Korea has not commented on the death but officials | :27:49. | :27:51. | |
from the country's embassy in Malaysia have been visiting | :27:52. | :27:53. | |
the hospital in Kuala Lumpur where Mr Kim's body has been taken. | :27:54. | :27:57. | |
Figures out this morning show that unemployment fell in the last | :27:58. | :28:00. | |
The number of people out of work dropped by 7,000 | :28:01. | :28:05. | |
to 1.6 million in the three months to December. | :28:06. | :28:08. | |
Meanwhile, average earnings rose by 2.6% | :28:09. | :28:11. | |
That's down 0.2% on the equivalent figure for the previous month. | :28:12. | :28:26. | |
The US media are reporting that members of President from's campaign | :28:27. | :28:30. | |
team had repeated contact with senior Russian officials in the time | :28:31. | :28:33. | |
before the general election. It follows the resignation | :28:34. | :28:37. | |
of the National Security Adviser, General Mike Flynn, over allegations | :28:38. | :28:39. | |
surrounding a phone call he had with a senior Russian diplomat | :28:40. | :28:42. | |
before President Trump took power. General Flynn quit after it was | :28:43. | :28:44. | |
revealed he had misled the White House over the nature | :28:45. | :28:46. | |
of the call. It's alleged he discussed the future | :28:47. | :28:49. | |
of US sanctions on Russia. Senior Republicans | :28:50. | :28:51. | |
have joined calls for Rolf Harris is to face a retrial | :28:52. | :28:53. | |
on three sex offence charges following the failure by a jury | :28:54. | :29:00. | |
at Southwark Crown Court to reach a verdict | :29:01. | :29:04. | |
on them last week. The 86-year-old former TV | :29:05. | :29:06. | |
personality will also face one He has pleaded not guilty. The | :29:07. | :29:15. | |
retrial will take place on the 15th of May. | :29:16. | :29:18. | |
Ukip has rejected an offer of resignation from one of its press | :29:19. | :29:21. | |
officers who says she was responsible for misleading | :29:22. | :29:23. | |
personal information about the Hillsborough disaster | :29:24. | :29:24. | |
contained on the website of party leader Paul Nuttall. | :29:25. | :29:26. | |
Mr Nuttall admitted yesterday, in an appearance | :29:27. | :29:29. | |
on Liverpool's Radio City Talk, that claims that he's lost | :29:30. | :29:31. | |
a close, personal friend in the tragedy were untrue. | :29:32. | :29:34. | |
He said he hadn't written or seen the information on his website | :29:35. | :29:36. | |
For the first time, a scientific study has found a possible link | :29:37. | :29:49. | |
between head injuries and brain damage in former footballers. | :29:50. | :29:51. | |
Researchers studied the brains of six former players | :29:52. | :29:53. | |
who died from dementia, and discovered that some of them had | :29:54. | :29:55. | |
a form of the disease linked to repeated blows to the head. | :29:56. | :29:58. | |
The daughter of the former England footballer Jeff Astle, | :29:59. | :30:00. | |
who died at the age of 59 from a degenerative brain disease, | :30:01. | :30:12. | |
told this programme the study might help answer | :30:13. | :30:14. | |
It is tragic that when he died, he was surrounded by England caps and | :30:15. | :30:23. | |
his FA Cup winners medal and everything he had won in football. | :30:24. | :30:27. | |
Football had taken away because he died not even knowing that he had | :30:28. | :30:30. | |
been a footballer. The question has always been twofold, one, my dad was | :30:31. | :30:39. | |
a footballer, so how did he die of boxer's brain? And the second is | :30:40. | :30:43. | |
have we got a problem with dementia in former players? I really think we | :30:44. | :30:48. | |
have a serious problem. We are getting news that a three-year-old | :30:49. | :30:51. | |
boy has died after being knocked down by a tractor on a farm in Fife. | :30:52. | :30:55. | |
The accident happened yesterday in the village of Crossgates. | :30:56. | :30:58. | |
Join me for BBC Newsroom live at 11am. | :30:59. | :31:08. | |
The European giants Barcelona are thrashed 4-nil in the last 16 | :31:09. | :31:12. | |
of the Champions League by Paris St-Germain to leave them | :31:13. | :31:14. | |
in danger of failing to reach the quarter-finals for the first | :31:15. | :31:17. | |
In last night's other game, Benfica beat Borussia | :31:18. | :31:20. | |
The goal scored by former Fulham striker Kostas Mitroglou. | :31:21. | :31:23. | |
Arsenal are in Champions League action tonight. | :31:24. | :31:25. | |
They play the first leg of their Last 16 tie | :31:26. | :31:31. | |
They play the first leg of their last 16 tie | :31:32. | :31:33. | |
Arsene Wenger's side have been knocked out at the stage in each | :31:34. | :31:37. | |
of the last six years, it's the fourth time they've met Bayern | :31:38. | :31:40. | |
Floyd Mayweather denies reports he's already agreed a bout | :31:41. | :31:43. | |
with Conor McGregor, but has called on the UFC champion | :31:44. | :31:46. | |
Mayweather retired from boxing for a second time in September 2015. | :31:47. | :31:49. | |
McGregor has never fought a professional boxing match and has | :31:50. | :31:52. | |
said he wants ?80 million to fight Mayweather. | :31:53. | :31:55. | |
I will have more sport for you on the BBC News Channel throughout the | :31:56. | :31:59. | |
day. A woman has been arrested | :32:00. | :32:03. | |
in Malaysia in connection with the death of the North Korean | :32:04. | :32:06. | |
leader's half-brother. Police say she was held at the | :32:07. | :32:16. | |
airport in Kuala Lumpur. It has been revealed a until of | :32:17. | :32:20. | |
suspects are wanted in connection with the death. | :32:21. | :32:27. | |
His brother Kim Jong-un has been in charge of North Korea since 2011. | :32:28. | :32:31. | |
What does this mean for the so-called Secretive State | :32:32. | :32:40. | |
and what is life like inside North Korea? | :32:41. | :32:41. | |
Paul French is the author of North Korea: State of Paranoia, | :32:42. | :32:44. | |
and has been a regular visitor to the country since 2002. | :32:45. | :32:46. | |
Tell us first of all more about him, the half-brother? Kim Jong-nam is | :32:47. | :32:56. | |
the oldest son of the former leader. He is a half-brother of choUng and | :32:57. | :33:00. | |
he was going to be the next leader, but in 2001 he took a trip to Tokyo | :33:01. | :33:06. | |
to visit Disneyland on a fake passport. He got busted at | :33:07. | :33:10. | |
immigration. This was a massive scandal and it ended his ascendancy | :33:11. | :33:15. | |
and choUng became the favourite to take over and did and since then he | :33:16. | :33:25. | |
has been in disgrace. What a random event to lead to a change in the | :33:26. | :33:29. | |
succession. What does something like that tell us about what goes on in | :33:30. | :33:35. | |
North Korea? It tells us how close the Kim family want to retain | :33:36. | :33:38. | |
control and don't want trouble. What seems to have happened is not a | :33:39. | :33:42. | |
surprise to people who watch Korea. There was a long tradition in North | :33:43. | :33:49. | |
Korea of abductions, kidnappings and assassinations and bombings of | :33:50. | :33:58. | |
people in the political hierarchy. Would Kim Jong-nam have been seen as | :33:59. | :34:03. | |
a threat? Well, this is the odd thing. Kim Jong-nam has made one or | :34:04. | :34:08. | |
two comments about how he thinks the country should liberalise a little | :34:09. | :34:11. | |
bit. How he thinks that they should open up the economy a little bit, | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
but he hasn't said anything. He doesn't have any following. There | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
isn't a great troop of fans around him in the dissident community of | :34:21. | :34:25. | |
North Korea. Why now is the kind of question that everyone asks? It is | :34:26. | :34:29. | |
not surprising that they assassinate people that they perceive to be a | :34:30. | :34:34. | |
threat to the regime, but what made Kim Jong-nam so dangerous to his | :34:35. | :34:47. | |
brother? Have you any thoughts? Perhaps someone thought he was the | :34:48. | :34:52. | |
person that could lead that. He has visited Beijing several times and | :34:53. | :34:57. | |
Beijing is unhappy with North Korea at the moment. They don't seem to be | :34:58. | :35:03. | |
able to control them. If they thought it was some kind of coup | :35:04. | :35:07. | |
attempt sponsored by someone else, another state perhaps, then they | :35:08. | :35:12. | |
would have stepped in to nip that in the bud quickly. Would that be | :35:13. | :35:18. | |
paranoia? You said where the speculation lies in terms of any | :35:19. | :35:23. | |
regime change operations. Is there a sense that there is a sort of | :35:24. | :35:28. | |
momentum? There is a sense of paranoia. There is a sense of, | :35:29. | :35:34. | |
constantly purging. Constantly showing that people can disappear | :35:35. | :35:37. | |
quickly in order to keep everyone scared and keep in control. The | :35:38. | :35:42. | |
thing about the North Koreans, if there was to be regime change, he | :35:43. | :35:46. | |
hasn't got anywhere to go. No one is going to want him. They won't give | :35:47. | :35:50. | |
him a villa in the south of France. It will end very badly. So, there | :35:51. | :35:55. | |
has been a tendency to try at the slightest sign of any resistance to | :35:56. | :36:00. | |
as I say, nip it inned bud quickly and fatally. People living in North | :36:01. | :36:07. | |
Korea, will they have any clue? No, word may filter in as word does, but | :36:08. | :36:15. | |
it won't be on the news. In terms of the, I mean it is obviously a very | :36:16. | :36:21. | |
secretive country. He rules it with an iron fist. What is life like | :36:22. | :36:28. | |
there? Well, life is still pretty grim and it hadn't changed much over | :36:29. | :36:33. | |
the last decades, really since the 1990s when there was a terrible | :36:34. | :36:36. | |
famine. There is little food security. People still go hungry. | :36:37. | :36:42. | |
There are lick theatrical plaque-outs and there is not enough | :36:43. | :36:47. | |
med suns and it is cold in the winter. The leader pledged that he | :36:48. | :36:56. | |
will improve life and give North Korea a nuclear weapon to protect | :36:57. | :37:02. | |
itself. Last weekend we saw another missile test. They are getting | :37:03. | :37:07. | |
closer to having a deliverable nuclear weapon. Little steps, how | :37:08. | :37:11. | |
close? We know they can do a nuclear explosion and fire a missile, they | :37:12. | :37:16. | |
can't put the tip on the missile and fire that, it is only a matter of | :37:17. | :37:21. | |
time. Thank you very much indeed Paul French. | :37:22. | :37:27. | |
Chris Nunn, is a British photographer who's been capturing | :37:28. | :37:30. | |
the conflict in eastern Ukraine between government forces | :37:31. | :37:32. | |
and Russian backed separatists which began in 2014. | :37:33. | :37:34. | |
Earlier this month he was nearly blinded in one eye | :37:35. | :37:37. | |
when the apartment he was in, was hit by a shell. | :37:38. | :37:39. | |
His friend, a Ukrainian woman, whose apartment it was, | :37:40. | :37:41. | |
Chris has given his first interview to our correspondent | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
The vision in Chris Nunn's left eye is gradually coming back. | :37:46. | :37:59. | |
I can see waving your hand like this. | :38:00. | :38:01. | |
Chris has covered the war in eastern Ukraine as a photographer to a half | :38:02. | :38:05. | |
But when he and his colleague visited a friend's flat earlier this | :38:06. | :38:08. | |
I remember, the whistle and the explosion and I remember | :38:09. | :38:12. | |
everything going yellow, this bright light. | :38:13. | :38:15. | |
I remember just checking to see if I had arms and legs and hands | :38:16. | :38:18. | |
Just moments before, with the electricity | :38:19. | :38:25. | |
out, Chris recorded the fighting from his friend Elaine's apartment. | :38:26. | :38:28. | |
This selfie is one of the last pictures of her alive. | :38:29. | :38:34. | |
It just makes you understand the fragility of life | :38:35. | :38:36. | |
out there, that things can just happen, just like that. | :38:37. | :38:44. | |
We met her family grieving the following day. | :38:45. | :39:00. | |
I have a daughter also, and when we fill | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
better with Chris, we will go and speak | :39:05. | :39:07. | |
to them about how we can help her son. | :39:08. | :39:09. | |
Elena had lived here in the city of Avdiivka. | :39:10. | :39:12. | |
It is where fighting with Russian backed | :39:13. | :39:18. | |
separatists recently flared up again. | :39:19. | :39:28. | |
The explosion outside Elena's apartment blasted this tiny | :39:29. | :39:30. | |
fragment of plastic into Chris Nunn's eyeball. | :39:31. | :39:32. | |
His doctor showed us video of the five-hour operation | :39:33. | :39:35. | |
he performed to remove it and rebuild Chris' eye. | :39:36. | :39:38. | |
Getting him quickly to one of Ukraine's top hospitals | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
was crucial for preventing him being blind in one eye. | :39:45. | :39:47. | |
TRANSLATION: If we had lost time, there would have been a 99% | :39:48. | :39:50. | |
chance of him losing his sight completely. | :39:51. | :39:55. | |
That's why we had to do the work in the first hours. | :39:56. | :39:58. | |
We managed to extract the plastic and | :39:59. | :40:00. | |
By the morning, Chris was able to count my fingers. | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
Chris says he wants to keep photographing the people whose lives | :40:06. | :40:08. | |
are trapped in the war zone of eastern Ukraine. | :40:09. | :40:11. | |
He's raising money for Elena's family and he is lucky. | :40:12. | :40:15. | |
The doctors think his full sight will return one day. | :40:16. | :40:30. | |
Lots of you getting in touch on poverty and the research on the | :40:31. | :40:36. | |
number of people who are trying to get by on salaries, an income, way | :40:37. | :40:42. | |
below the level that the foundation says is necessary for an adequate | :40:43. | :40:49. | |
lifestyle. Jen says my daughter is a 2-1 graduate and works hard, but is | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
struggling to manage other mortgage and bills and has to choose between | :40:55. | :41:00. | |
heating and eating. She has to work the extra hours to survive. There is | :41:01. | :41:04. | |
no Government help and no permanent full-time jobs paying her the wage | :41:05. | :41:07. | |
she needs. We told graduates that education is the key to a bright | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
future. Clearly, it isn't for the vast majority with degrees. A | :41:12. | :41:15. | |
texter, "I get ?130 a week from which I have to pay rent, feed and | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
clothe myself. The answer, reduce MPs salaries by half. That will | :41:21. | :41:25. | |
bring in millions." Christie tweets, "I think the figures are inflated. | :41:26. | :41:30. | |
I'm below this poverty line and living fine." Another tweets, | :41:31. | :41:39. | |
"In-work poverty, a phenomenon. Greed -- exploitation." Another | :41:40. | :41:42. | |
viewer says, "If you can't afford to live in London, surely you have to | :41:43. | :41:46. | |
move away." Another texter says, "I am a married man. I live on ?26,000 | :41:47. | :41:52. | |
and I have two cars and go abroad every year. I don't know where the | :41:53. | :41:56. | |
reported figures come from." Thank you. | :41:57. | :42:01. | |
The long wait by fans of His Dark Materials trilogy | :42:02. | :42:04. | |
22 years after publication of the bestselling novels, | :42:05. | :42:07. | |
the fantasy author Philip Pullman has revealed the story | :42:08. | :42:09. | |
for The Book of Dust, which comes out in October. | :42:10. | :42:12. | |
The original trilogy - Northern Lights, The Subtle Knife | :42:13. | :42:14. | |
and The Amber Spyglass - is currently being | :42:15. | :42:16. | |
The new series will return to the story of Lyra Belacqua, | :42:17. | :42:20. | |
and will begin when the heroine is a baby, and move | :42:21. | :42:23. | |
Philip Pullman has been talking to the BBC. | :42:24. | :42:31. | |
The book of dust is something I have had in mind for a long time. The | :42:32. | :42:40. | |
story of Lyra is finished, but there are other stories that can be told | :42:41. | :42:43. | |
about the people in the book and the world of the book and one of them | :42:44. | :42:47. | |
has been occupying my imagination for quite sometime. Sometimes when | :42:48. | :42:52. | |
you write a story that comes before another story or after another | :42:53. | :42:58. | |
story, people say is it a prequel or a sequel. It is neither. It is an | :42:59. | :43:04. | |
equal. It is a different story. It begins roughly ten years before His | :43:05. | :43:11. | |
Dark Materials and continues roughly ten years after His Dark Materials | :43:12. | :43:17. | |
so we see Lyra as a baby. She is an important baby so all sorts of | :43:18. | :43:21. | |
activity goes on around her and we see her in the second book as an | :43:22. | :43:26. | |
adult. She is 20 years old. The ideal reader is someone who has read | :43:27. | :43:31. | |
His Dark Materials or maybe read it as a child. That's not to say this | :43:32. | :43:35. | |
book can only be read by people who have passed a test by reading His | :43:36. | :43:41. | |
Dark Materials first. I felt one day I would write something that would | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
be a success. Why did I feel that? Conceit, I expect. | :43:47. | :43:49. | |
In our Brighton newsroom is the children's author | :43:50. | :43:51. | |
In Huddersfield is Joanne Harris, who's an admirer of Pullman's work | :43:52. | :43:55. | |
And in Oxford is Richard Ovenden, who's the head librarian | :43:56. | :43:58. | |
at the Bodleian Library at Oxford University. | :43:59. | :44:01. | |
Thank you very much for joining us. Joanne, I think you're a friend of | :44:02. | :44:10. | |
Philip Pullman's as well. What is it that you love about the books? Well, | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
I think they are wonderfully, beautifully written pieces of work | :44:16. | :44:18. | |
and they cross over so well from children's fiction to adult fiction | :44:19. | :44:22. | |
because they are peppered with so many literary reference that is | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
children may or may not pick up. But there has never been any talking | :44:27. | :44:30. | |
down to the audience with Philip Pullman's books. It has taken a long | :44:31. | :44:34. | |
time for an equal. Why do you think it has taken so long? You are a | :44:35. | :44:40. | |
friend of his? These things take time TA to be good they have to take | :44:41. | :44:43. | |
the time that they take and it is very brave to announce that you're | :44:44. | :44:47. | |
writing something and then to say well, you're not going to see it for | :44:48. | :44:51. | |
years and years, but sometimes that's what you need because the | :44:52. | :44:56. | |
readers deserve the best and they also will not give a book away if it | :44:57. | :45:03. | |
is not finished. Have you discussed him writing this privately? No, but | :45:04. | :45:08. | |
I've heard him talk about it and I've heard mention of The Book Of | :45:09. | :45:15. | |
Dust and I was thinking I wonder when I get to read it? But you have | :45:16. | :45:20. | |
to put that impatience aside. Do you think he felt pressure to follow up? | :45:21. | :45:24. | |
I hope not. I think he's probably tougher than that. I would have felt | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
an enormous amount of pressure, but no, I think he takes the time that | :45:29. | :45:34. | |
he takes and that's right. Nick Tucker, are you excited about | :45:35. | :45:35. | |
the new offering? Definitely because having read the | :45:36. | :45:47. | |
trilogy twice and written a book about it, I'm still not absolutely | :45:48. | :45:53. | |
sure what Dust is and he promises in the new book to finally nailed down | :45:54. | :45:58. | |
this very fascinating but really quite ambiguous substance. So this | :45:59. | :46:07. | |
will be a big publishing event. Already people on Twitter are | :46:08. | :46:10. | |
terribly excited about it. Although he does not leave you dangling | :46:11. | :46:16. | |
exactly at the end of book-macro, you want to know what is going to | :46:17. | :46:22. | |
happen to Lyra and now we will know if she gets back together with a man | :46:23. | :46:28. | |
she loves who happens to be living in another world. With something | :46:29. | :46:31. | |
like this which is a phenomenon, people get very passionate about it. | :46:32. | :46:35. | |
You are saying that you have read the books several times and there | :46:36. | :46:37. | |
are things that you still don't understand. What is it about an | :46:38. | :46:47. | |
author that becomes a phenomenon? It is when an author does not tie | :46:48. | :46:55. | |
himself down to too much detail. , any particular idea of moment of | :46:56. | :46:59. | |
history. If you can generalise with your writing, you can find that | :47:00. | :47:05. | |
perhaps it has any relevance because it might refer to something that has | :47:06. | :47:13. | |
not happened yet. Philip is a very ambitious writer. He is a wonderful | :47:14. | :47:18. | |
storyteller but he is also full of ideas. Read one of his books and you | :47:19. | :47:23. | |
are very entertained but you come out thinking about alternative | :47:24. | :47:27. | |
parallel universes, about his fascination with quantum physics and | :47:28. | :47:34. | |
string theory but all made very approachable by the genius of a | :47:35. | :47:37. | |
storyteller who just makes you want to turn from the first page to the | :47:38. | :47:41. | |
last. Richard, you are joining us from Oxford, from the Bodleian | :47:42. | :47:48. | |
library. The work is interwoven throughout Oxford. Absolutely and | :47:49. | :47:54. | |
one of the most exciting things about the promise of the new book is | :47:55. | :48:00. | |
that for us in Oxford, it will be to see how the city and the university | :48:01. | :48:03. | |
buildings, the great institutions like the Bodleian, the botanic | :48:04. | :48:07. | |
Gardens and the museums are going to feature in the new story. One of the | :48:08. | :48:13. | |
most incredible things about book-macro has been the way in which | :48:14. | :48:23. | |
he has conjured -- about His Dark Materials is the way he's put | :48:24. | :48:27. | |
together the magical world and the real world. We can walk around the | :48:28. | :48:32. | |
city and think of passages from the books. The idea that we have got | :48:33. | :48:37. | |
more to do a ranging from the Pitt Rivers Museum, or the physics | :48:38. | :48:41. | |
Department, or suburban streets, the Bodleian, obviously, that is just an | :48:42. | :48:49. | |
incredibly exciting thing, an exciting prospect in store. | :48:50. | :48:53. | |
Particularly in these kind of very challenging times, to have this | :48:54. | :48:57. | |
incredibly rich and stimulating imaginary world, this very | :48:58. | :49:03. | |
compelling and moving story, to be able to go back into that world is | :49:04. | :49:10. | |
just such an enticing prospect. Joanne Harris, how would you rank | :49:11. | :49:15. | |
him as a writer? Where would you put him? He's a top class writer in any | :49:16. | :49:22. | |
genre. Thank you for joining us. Fans will not have too much longer | :49:23. | :49:26. | |
to wait when you think about how long it has been, many years but now | :49:27. | :49:27. | |
it will be October. The latest unemployment figures show | :49:28. | :49:29. | |
another drop in the number The figures include three months up | :49:30. | :49:31. | |
to December show that unemployment Average earnings also increased | :49:32. | :49:36. | |
by 2.6% in the year to December but that's down by 0.2% | :49:37. | :49:42. | |
on the previous month. The employment rate, | :49:43. | :49:45. | |
the proportion of people aged from 16-64 who were in work, | :49:46. | :49:48. | |
was 74.6%, the highest since With me now is our economics | :49:49. | :49:51. | |
correspondent Andy Verity. What do these figures say about the | :49:52. | :50:06. | |
state of the economy? Good morning. We are seeing the same thing in a | :50:07. | :50:10. | |
way that we have seen for a while, the unemployment rate is very low | :50:11. | :50:14. | |
indeed, 4.8%, the lowest it has been since 2005. We are also seeing the | :50:15. | :50:18. | |
same thing we have seen for years, the workforce is still growing. That | :50:19. | :50:23. | |
rate is a proportion of an increasing workforce, 4.8% is low | :50:24. | :50:31. | |
but still 1.6 million people. The workforce has been increasing | :50:32. | :50:34. | |
largely because of immigration from EU access and states but what is | :50:35. | :50:38. | |
interesting in the numbers is it suggests the increase in the | :50:39. | :50:42. | |
workforce is slowing down. Whereas a few months ago, I would have been | :50:43. | :50:44. | |
telling you that the workforce had grown by 500,000, now I can tell you | :50:45. | :50:51. | |
it has grown by more like 300,000. The number of people coming from EU | :50:52. | :50:55. | |
access and states, non-UK nationals coming from the rest of the EU was | :50:56. | :51:01. | |
up by 190,000, still an increase but much less so than it was. We have | :51:02. | :51:08. | |
not left the EU yet so why is this? No, we haven't but the office for | :51:09. | :51:11. | |
National statistics does not give reasons for these numbers so you are | :51:12. | :51:15. | |
left in the realms of speculation. You might suggest that perhaps the | :51:16. | :51:20. | |
prospect of Brexit might put some EU access and state citizens of coming | :51:21. | :51:24. | |
to the UK. Certainly we hear anecdotally from some companies that | :51:25. | :51:29. | |
they have got a skills shortage, construction companies, retail | :51:30. | :51:33. | |
trade, the hospitality industry, hotels, have all highlighted skills | :51:34. | :51:36. | |
gaps and we know that those are the industries which rely on immigrant | :51:37. | :51:40. | |
labour. But that is anecdotal evidence. We could use something | :51:41. | :51:44. | |
more solid to try to establish whether migration from the rest of | :51:45. | :51:48. | |
the EU has slowed down since the referendum. Thank you for joining | :51:49. | :51:49. | |
us. Shadow Home Secretary Diane Abbott | :51:50. | :51:51. | |
says women could be put off entering politics because of abuse suffered | :51:52. | :51:53. | |
by female MPs. She's spoken out about her own | :51:54. | :51:55. | |
experiences after recently receiving It's after Brexit Secretary David | :51:56. | :51:58. | |
Davis appeared to say he would not try to kiss the Labour politician | :51:59. | :52:06. | |
because he's "not blind". We can speak now to SNP MP | :52:07. | :52:08. | |
Anne McLaughlin and Labour MP Dawn Butler, who have both | :52:09. | :52:11. | |
suffered abuse themselves. Thank you for joining us. Tell us | :52:12. | :52:24. | |
what views you have suffered. Well, I have to say, first, I've never | :52:25. | :52:27. | |
suffered the level of abuse that Diane Abbott has. But yeah, it has | :52:28. | :52:33. | |
been pretty bad, pretty nasty stuff but I have a method of dealing with | :52:34. | :52:38. | |
it. When a deluge of tweets start to come in, usually about the time you | :52:39. | :52:42. | |
say something, you stick your head above the parapet and say something | :52:43. | :52:46. | |
that a group of people won't like, I get someone else to take on my | :52:47. | :52:50. | |
Twitter account and stop reading it. You have to be able to do that to | :52:51. | :52:53. | |
protect yourself from it. I get all sorts of advice on how I can improve | :52:54. | :52:57. | |
the way I look, what I should do with my hair and my face, which | :52:58. | :53:03. | |
includes putting a bag over it. And all sorts of nasty, personal stuff | :53:04. | :53:06. | |
which has nothing to do with the job I am trying to do as the MP for | :53:07. | :53:11. | |
Glasgow North East. What about you, what have your experiences been? I | :53:12. | :53:18. | |
agree, you do suffer sexism and with me also, racism. You get told about | :53:19. | :53:26. | |
what to do, your weight, your cleavage, what to wear, what not to | :53:27. | :53:31. | |
wear. People are just completely vile sometimes. And with social | :53:32. | :53:36. | |
media, it makes it worse because people know that they can get | :53:37. | :53:40. | |
directly into your inbox and get to see those things. Blocking and | :53:41. | :53:45. | |
muting are great buttons on Twitter but it will put a lot of women. It | :53:46. | :53:51. | |
is not the first thing you think about when you are standing for | :53:52. | :53:55. | |
election. You think about what you can do in society, the change you | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
can make and you don't really factor into that that you are going to have | :54:00. | :54:03. | |
to consider all of this abuse as you go along. Diane Abbott says she is | :54:04. | :54:07. | |
worried it is putting women of politics. As it made either of you | :54:08. | :54:14. | |
contemplate your career choice? I change what I do sometimes. We | :54:15. | :54:21. | |
consider our security a lot more. You know, when we are going to | :54:22. | :54:26. | |
events, we consider the make-up of that event, etc. I am more concerned | :54:27. | :54:31. | |
for myself and my own safety. I think my younger self would not have | :54:32. | :54:38. | |
put me. I would have liked to prepare myself for what it would | :54:39. | :54:40. | |
feel like to be discriminated in that way and not just being a woman | :54:41. | :54:46. | |
but a black woman. As I say, you don't really think when you go into | :54:47. | :54:49. | |
Parliament that you would have to deal with all of that. Inside | :54:50. | :54:54. | |
Parliament and outside. Inside Parliament? Have you experienced | :54:55. | :54:57. | |
this inside Parliament? Yeah, you do. I talked about it before, when, | :54:58. | :55:06. | |
you know, I was mistaken for a cleaner, or told not to go into a | :55:07. | :55:13. | |
certain section because you do I think I am? Who says that to you? | :55:14. | :55:19. | |
Fellow MPs have said that to me. Sorry, fellow MPs thought you were | :55:20. | :55:24. | |
the clean-up? Yes, yes, I went into the lift and they said the lift was | :55:25. | :55:31. | |
not for cleaners. Day, sorry to keep interrupting but I mean, this is | :55:32. | :55:35. | |
extraordinary. More than one MP thought you were a cleaner? Tell us | :55:36. | :55:41. | |
what happened. I went into the lift early in the morning and I had my | :55:42. | :55:48. | |
coat on. I went into the lift, and there are separate lifts, one for | :55:49. | :55:51. | |
MPs and one for everyone else, because we have to get to committee | :55:52. | :55:55. | |
rooms quickly and somebody said, "I'm really sorry but this lift | :55:56. | :56:00. | |
really isn't for cleaners". You know, I was quite stunned and | :56:01. | :56:04. | |
shocked by that and I turned around and said, "Well, even if I was a | :56:05. | :56:08. | |
cleaner, you are rude and ignorant, but in fact, I'm not a cleaner, I'm | :56:09. | :56:14. | |
an MP". They just turned their back. There have been other cases where I | :56:15. | :56:19. | |
have been going to take my team to have lunch and I have been stopped | :56:20. | :56:23. | |
by a fellow MP asking me where I think I'm going. I said, "We were | :56:24. | :56:29. | |
going to have lunch". He said, "This is only for MPs, who are you?" And I | :56:30. | :56:36. | |
said, "Who are you?" You can stand up and have an argument but you have | :56:37. | :56:39. | |
to choose your battles and this is why the whole culture of Parliament | :56:40. | :56:43. | |
has to change. It is so important in the environment we are in now, that | :56:44. | :56:48. | |
the Prime Minister takes a step to saying that this is just | :56:49. | :56:53. | |
unacceptable for anybody, for MPs, researchers, visitors, it is just an | :56:54. | :56:56. | |
unacceptable way to behave in a workplace. You are nodding. Dawn is | :56:57. | :57:03. | |
very well able to stand up to people like that but why should she have | :57:04. | :57:07. | |
do? Why should she have to stand up to that kind of rudeness, sexism and | :57:08. | :57:14. | |
racism? My concern is about women who might want to go into politics | :57:15. | :57:18. | |
but are put off and I know some of them because I've tried to convince | :57:19. | :57:21. | |
them to go into politics because they would be really good at | :57:22. | :57:24. | |
representing people and fighting for their rights but they have seen some | :57:25. | :57:27. | |
of the stuff that I have had and they just can't bring themselves to | :57:28. | :57:31. | |
do it. They think they could not cope with it. There are two things | :57:32. | :57:35. | |
that need to happen. It needs to stop but until it does, we need to | :57:36. | :57:39. | |
be looking at equipping women and anyone who suffers abuse to deal | :57:40. | :57:45. | |
with it. We need -- I found ways of dealing with it and I want women to | :57:46. | :57:48. | |
know there are ways of dealing with it. We almost out of time but | :57:49. | :57:52. | |
obviously, good to have ways of dealing with it but what about ways | :57:53. | :57:56. | |
of stopping it? You said you had some ideas. Mine are mainly about | :57:57. | :58:00. | |
how to deal with it. I don't have ways to stop it, to be honest, | :58:01. | :58:05. | |
because, you know, social media means anyone can say anything they | :58:06. | :58:10. | |
like. For me, I had to learn how I respond to it. Thank you for joining | :58:11. | :58:15. | |
us. We are out of time. Thank you for your company this morning. BBC | :58:16. | :58:22. | |
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