31/03/2017 Victoria Derbyshire


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Hello, it's Friday, it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire -

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A longer wait for routine operations in England.

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NHS bosses say it's a "trade-off" for improvements in other areas.

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There are a significant proportion of people

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who don't need to be there, who don't want to be there,

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and if we could get them out that would free up something like 2000

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to 3000 beds in the NHS, which can be used more

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effectively for providing quicker elective surgery.

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Will tough new sanctions against adults who send explicit

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messages to children be enough to stop the problem of grooming?

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One woman tells us what happened to her.

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I didn't want to cause trouble and, like, not be believed.

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But yeah, I knew I had to say something.

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And we'll have a special report on why some young voters in France

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Hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am this morning.

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Are you waiting for a non-urgent operation?

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If so, we'd love to hear from you this morning about how long

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Are you one of the many people who've arrived at hospital only

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to have your operation cancelled on the day?

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Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

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If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

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We are going to go and live now to hear from Donald Tusk, the president

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of the European Council. You can see the podium there, he is waiting to

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speak in Malta in the next few minutes, he will of course be

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talking about those Brexit negotiations, so we will go back to

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that live as soon as it happens, you won't miss anything at all.

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Our top story today - patients will have to wait longer

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for routine operations, such as hip and knee replacements

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as a "trade-off", so that improvements can be made in other

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That's according to the Head of NHS England, Simon Stevens,

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who says "choices have to be made" because of increasing patient demand

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Iris Ram is 96 and is recovering from a recent illness.

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Her GP called a local NHS service based in Nottinghamshire

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to give her the right care in the right place.

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The treatment at home has been absolutely wonderful.

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Iris is well cared for - a priority for the NHS.

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But it's acknowledged the system is under pressure, and tough

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Today, NHS England leaders are taking stock of progress

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since their five-year plan was published in 2014.

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Aims set out in the new strategy include improving cancer survival

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rates, increased access to mental health therapies and

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But with limited resources it means the 18 week target for planned

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operations is increasingly likely to be missed. Many of these procedures

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are life changing, some are life-saving. We know that people

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sometimes die on waiting lists, waiting for heart surgery. The

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longer you wait, the more likely that is to happen. We know that

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people are waiting for gall bladder operations, the longer you wait, the

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more likely it is. Today is about setting out

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what is possible with the money allocated by the Government

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to the NHS in England. But, at a time of increased demand,

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what is not addressed Let's go straight to Malta now where

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Donald Tusk has begun speaking. As you know, the treaty gives us

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only two years to reach an agreement. Allow me to outline the

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main elements and principles of my proposal. We treat them as

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fundamental and will firmly stand by them. Our duty is to minimise the

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uncertainty and disruption caused by the UK decision to withdraw from the

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EU for our citizens, businesses, and member states, as I have already

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said in essence it is about damage control. We need to think of people

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first. Citizens from all over the EU live, work and study in the UK. And

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as long as the UK remains a member, their rights are fully protected.

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But we need to settle the situation after the withdrawal with

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reciprocal, enforceable, and non-discriminatory guarantees.

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Second, we must prevent a legal vacuum for our companies that stems

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from the fact that, after Brexit, EU laws will no longer apply to the UK.

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Third, we also need to make sure that the UK offers all financial

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commitment and liabilities it has taken as a member state. It is only

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fair towards all those people, communities, scientists, farmers and

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so on to whom we, all the 28, promised and Bob This Is Money. I

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can guarantee that the EU, on our part, will honour all under

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commitments -- all other commitments. Fourth, we will seek

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flexible and creative solutions aiming at avoiding a hard border

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between Northern Ireland and Ireland. It is of crucial importance

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to support the peace process in Northern Ireland. These four issues

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are all part of the first phase of our negotiation. Once, and only

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once, we have achieved sufficient progress of the four can we discuss

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the framework of our future relationship. Starting parallel

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talks on all issues at the same time, as suggested by some in the

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UK, will not happen. And when talking about our future

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relationship, we obviously shared the UK's desire to establish a close

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partnership between us. Strong ties reaching beyond the economy and

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including security cooperation remain in our common interest. Let

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me conclude by saying that the talks which are about to start will be

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difficult, complex, and sometimes even confrontational. There is no

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way around it. The EU 27 does not and will not pursue a punitive

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approach. Brexit in itself is already punitive enough. After more

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than 40 years of being united, we owe it to each other to do

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everything we can to make this divorce as smooth as possible. This

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is also why Prime Minister May and I have agreed to stay in close and

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regular contact throughout this process. I intend to visit Theresa

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May in London before the April European Union Council. As rotating

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presidency, we see the guidelines that have just been submitted by

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President Tusk as constructive. It will be a very tough negotiation, an

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unprecedented negotiation for the European Union since previously, in

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all such negotiations, it was about getting closer, not getting further

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away from each other. It will be a tough negotiation, but it will not

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be a war. At the end of the day, the two sides will need to remain close

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to each other as friends, but it is obvious for the 27 that membership

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of the European Union is the superior option. The priority, as

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set out in the draft guidelines which will now be discussed and are

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just now starting being discussed in Brussels, show very clearly that the

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first priority is the settling of issues relating to citizens. We need

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to make sure that our citizens, European citizens in the United

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Kingdom and British citizens in the European Union, are not used as

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bargaining chips by any side, so I do believe that there is a wide

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ranging commitment to settle this issue as quickly as possible. As

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President Tusk was saying, and has already declared in our initial

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statements, the 27 see no room for parallel negotiations. First, there

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needs to be an agreement on the principles of the United Kingdom's

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orderly withdrawal from the European Union, but once those principles are

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agreed, and before actually going on with those negotiations, once there

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is sufficient progress that it will be determined by date European

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Council alone, negotiations on a new phase, a new relationship, will be

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able to start by council giving a mandate to the negotiator to do so.

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It is imperative to stress that, while the European Union and member

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states are showing flexibility in making it clear that they are ready

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for transition periods as necessary, those transition periods need to be

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governed by European institutions, since those are the institutions

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that would be sovereign in taking decisions. Finally, the issue of

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Northern Ireland is being given serious and special consideration by

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the 27. We know the sensitivities that exist on the Irish issue, and

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we are looking at creative and pragmatic solutions to see that

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peace and stability on the Irish aisle are not ended. Thank you.

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Chris Morris from the BBC. President Tusk, your document talks about the

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fact there will be no separate negotiations between individual

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member states and the UK. You have talked a lot about unity in the past

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week, this makes it sound like you are worried that the UK will try to

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pick of individual countries and have those negotiations. How can you

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be sure that won't happen? Secondly, the document talks about not moving

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onto the second phase of the negotiation involving trade talks

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and future trade relationships until sufficient progress has been made

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the initial phase, what does sufficient progress mean? Is it

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simply the European capitals will to find that? And Prime Minister must

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step, your thoughts on those issues as well, thank you. This is my first

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divorce and I hope the last one. This is why I want to be very

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cautious and precise. First of all, when it comes to our unity and

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solidarity I have no doubt, especially after our summit in Rome

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and the Rome declaration, that this is not only a declaration, this is

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the truth, that all 27 will be united during the negotiations, and

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I have no doubt this is our common interest but also in the interest of

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the UK. If they want to achieve a constructive agreement, it means

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that they should discuss and negotiate only with the 27 as a

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union. This is the only way to achieve anything in this very

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difficult process. From my side, it is obvious that the British

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Government is in contact with all member states. I don't think that

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there is any instruction from Brussels or any institution not to

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have regular and normal relationship with our British counterparts, so we

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will continue to engage with the United Kingdom, and I think all

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member states will, but, and this is a clear demarcation line, when it

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comes to negotiations on this issue, on Brexit and on future

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relationships, there is a clear commitment by the 27 to have just

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one point of contact, and that point of contact is Mr Barnier, that is

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led exclusively from the European side and I do believe, as Donald has

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just said, this is not something of a lip service but this is true

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political commitment from each side. When it comes to your question on

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sufficient progress, yes, we are seeing that sufficient progress is

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determined exclusively by the European Council. Yes, I want to be

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very clear and support Joseph. It must be clear that the EU as 27

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decides it's sufficient progress has been achieved. Probably in the

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autumn, at least I hope so. Robin amateur from Reuters.

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President Tusk, in the guidelines there is envisaged some sort of

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transition period in which Britain would continue to pay into the EU

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budget and be under the jurisdiction of the ECJ. -- Robin Emmett from

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Reuters. Both of these reasons why people voted to leave the EU, I

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wonder why you included them? Let me say just one thing about

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money and some impressions on both sides of the Channel. There is no

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such thing as a Brexiter bill or penalty for leaving. If you want to

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talk about finance and commitment I have no doubt that for both sides it

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is really important to demonstrate that we want to be fair to reach the

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chewing the negotiations. I will add to that that there is no, as someone

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said, Brexiter bill. I think the letter that Prime Minister Mae has

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sent acknowledges that the UK has commitments, so what we are setting

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out in the draft guidelines, and I think there is a broad agreement on

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the document that Donald has put forward, OK, some things might be

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added and subtracted, but the essence is there. I do believe that

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the idea is one which shows and says that those commitments must be

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respected, and the idea is that we have to come up with the methodology

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that shows and calculates those commitments and also what Britain

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needs to take from European assets, as a balance sheet. I do believe

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that this is very, very obvious. On the ECJ and other European

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institutions governing transition period, in our books transition

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period means that you are still Amber, or at used to have access --

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are still a member or at least still have access to and Bishop situation.

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If you have such access it goes without saying that the institutions

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we have agreed upon need to government. We would obviously not

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intrude on what happens afterwards within the United Kingdom. Then,

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when it comes to a free trade agreement, we would have to have

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negotiations, and those would then determine what type of institutions

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will govern that new type of arrangement. REPORTER: One last

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question. Television Malta, to date there has been concerned following

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Prime Minister May's letter on the link between the trade agreement and

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future security cooperation. Is this acceptable? Have you received any

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concerns from member states about Prime Minister May's letter?

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Know, especially after the terrorist attack in London. -- no, especially

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after. It is to be clear that terrorism is our common problem and

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security is our common problem. I know Theresa May well enough and I

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know her approach to this issue. This is why I rule out this kind of

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interpretation and speculation to be used as a bargaining chip. It must

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be a misunderstanding. Our partners are wise and decent partners, this

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is why I am absolutely sure that no one is interested in using security

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cooperation as a bargaining chip. I would like to confirm that even

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though it was something that hit the headlines and really and truly many

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people, including ourselves, noted, we have had reassurances from the

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British Government that this is a misinterpretation. We will take, at

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least my Government, will take the word of the British Government. We

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do believe that they are decent partners, people who will not

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bargain on security of any of our citizens, and I do believe that we

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will start negotiations in this spirit of sincere cooperation. Thank

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you very much. STUDIO: That was the president of the European Council,

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Donald Tusk, speaking with Maltese Prime Minister -- the Maltese Prime

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Minister. They are talking about the Brexit negotiations. He outlined an

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interesting number of points, he says there will not be

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conversations, parallel conversations about trade and

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commitments. That seek to Europe correspondent

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Damian Grammaticas in Brussels. Interesting that he outlined those

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four areas that he wanted to be sorted, Donald Tusk, before

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contemplating a decision about trade. Take us through those? This

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is what PE you site has identified as the most pressing issues to be

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settled first of all in this Article 50 exit process -- this is what the

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EU side has identified. There has been lobbying from citizens, it use

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it as an living in the UK, UK citizens living in the EU -- EU

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citizens living in the UK. Those people have rights to live, work,

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study. What will happen to those rights in the future? The second

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thing he talked about was preventing a vacuum of laws, that talks about

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businesses, what certainty they will have, EU, the guidelines we have now

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here talking about those benefiting from EU money, project extending

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into the long-term. Backers into the third issue, the UK's financial

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commitments, he says both sides must honour those. Donald Tusk made the

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point that this is not a Brexiter bill, this is a settling of

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accounts. -- this is not a Brexit bill. He said this is payment

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promised to farmers, scientists, people that obligations have been

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made to that must be met. The last thing was the Ireland/ Northern

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Ireland border, we have seen a bigger effort by the Irish

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Government to press this, it is identified as a key priority. There

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was recognition that these could be difficult conversations, sometimes

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confrontational, Donald Tusk said those words. Talking about security

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cooperation, he said there was misunderstanding about the letter

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from Theresa May? He said this is a common problem for priority to

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tackle terror, that is something that must be done together. But I

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think the take from this whole thing, this document, what we heard

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Donald Tusk say, which is that the EUG side is very clearly setting the

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agenda now -- the EU side. The timetable the EU was setting, saying

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exit talks, there must be sufficient progress, we heard them in that

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press conference saying it is the EU side, the 27, who will decide when

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that has been sufficient, where they are happy that enough detail has

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been nailed down on the Exeter agreement and they will move on to

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the future relationship and the transition. -- on the exit

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agreement. From the EU side, they made very clear if there is a

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transitional period during which the UK continues to access the single

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market, it will be on the EU's rules, they said. Payment into the

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EU budget, rules of the Court of Justice applying, the EU laying down

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its principles and we will see the EU trying to enforce what it sees as

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how the negotiation must proceed. Donald Tusk very clearly said that a

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person or people in the UK have been advancing the idea of parallel

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negotiations on the future status for the UK, along with the

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withdrawal agreement. The person advocating those is the UK Prime

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Minister, Theresa May. He said absolutely that will not happen. A

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very clear message from the EU who now, I think, will be in control of

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a lot of the dynamic of this. Thank you very much, Damian.

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We'll also get reaction throughout the programme, we are live until

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11am. Another story we will talk about is

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the NHS. Are you on a waiting list for a routine operation? Have you

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had a routine operation cancelled on the day you have arrived at

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hospital? You can get in touch with us on Twitter. We want to hear and

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share your stories as ever. Across the country thousands

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of children are groomed each year, and while the Government created

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a law to make this illegal 2 years ago they never put it into force

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in England and Wales. From Monday that will all change

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and will mean any message sent by an adult to a child that relates

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to sexual activity will be considered grooming

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and therefore illegal. Earlier I spoke to to Molly,

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which isn't her real name and wants to remain anonymous, who was groomed

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when she was 15 years old, she's now 21, and Tony Stower

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from the NSPCC who campaigned So, Molly, just start by telling us

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how old you were when this began. And who was the person

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who approached you, It was an adult, a volunteer

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at a youth club I used to attend. Well, first off,

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he befriended my dad. Then we used to go

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round his house and stuff. Then we all added each

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other on Facebook. And what were the sort of messages

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that he was sending you? At first, it was just

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normal conversation. How's your family, how's

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your dad, all of that. Then it started getting more,

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where he was using names for me, And then one morning

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I got up for school, checked my Facebook,

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as I used to do, and he messaged me, saying he was doing stuff

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to himself, while his partner So, you know, I just closed my

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laptop down and went to school. That must have been quite

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frightening, at 15, to read that? But I just sort of closed my laptop

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down and carried on with my day. Well, he got my number

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through Facebook, off So I started getting

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messages from him when I was He would text me, saying

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he was outside my house in his car. He used to try to get me to go out

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and meet him, outside my house. One time I had to get my sisters

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to close my curtains, so I could crawl around

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on the floor, so he But he would always do it

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while my dad was out. Somehow he knew that

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my dad wasn't home. At what point did you start

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to feel uncomfortable, Pretty much from the

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Facebook incident. But the last lot of texts that

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I got, he was telling me he had feelings for me and stuff,

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that he had to try Telling me that I looked

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beautiful, the night before, when I went to the youth club,

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stuff like that. I just said to him,

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I don't want this. Telling him this is not what I want,

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I don't want to be a part of this. I told my best friend at the time,

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I let it slip to my brother. Between him, my best

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friend and another friend, they all bullied me into telling my

:28:59.:29:00.

dad what was going on. Did you realise you

:29:01.:29:05.

should tell someone? Was it that you were frightened,

:29:06.:29:07.

or you felt embarrassed? I just didn't want my

:29:08.:29:12.

dad to lose a friend. You know, I didn't

:29:13.:29:15.

want to cause trouble. This is a man who had children

:29:16.:29:18.

the same age as you? So, you told your dad

:29:19.:29:26.

and how did your dad react? He said I should have told him

:29:27.:29:34.

sooner and he could have got But he was calm, he had

:29:35.:29:39.

his head screwed on. He rang the child protection

:29:40.:29:42.

of the youth club that I went to. They got us straight down

:29:43.:29:47.

into the headquarters. They had a read through the messages

:29:48.:29:50.

that I had saved on my phone. Then they advised us

:29:51.:29:58.

to go to the police. How difficult is that,

:29:59.:30:02.

when you are 15, you're worried about whether you're going to be

:30:03.:30:04.

believed, showing those messages? And you went to the police,

:30:05.:30:11.

and the police took your The day that we went to the police,

:30:12.:30:17.

they took a recorded interview. Then I had to go back

:30:18.:30:28.

for video interviews. They had all my logins

:30:29.:30:31.

for my social media, What was that process

:30:32.:30:33.

like, as a 15-year-old? Yeah, considering I was

:30:34.:30:44.

going through my GCSEs and stuff at school,

:30:45.:30:47.

it did have a knock-on I just cracked on with

:30:48.:30:50.

what I had to do. At the end, was at the police

:30:51.:31:00.

who said to you, we can't do Yeah, the CPS, I got a letter

:31:01.:31:04.

from the CPS saying he's What reason did they

:31:05.:31:08.

give you for that? Because there wasn't

:31:09.:31:15.

enough evidence. I think they said they could have

:31:16.:31:24.

got him done for harassment, but it had taken too long

:31:25.:31:27.

for the police to go through all the phone

:31:28.:31:29.

and my social medias. Tony, people listening

:31:30.:31:31.

to this will be amazed that a story like Molly's,

:31:32.:31:35.

where there is obvious It's astonishing to think that it's

:31:36.:31:37.

still not illegal for an adult to send a sexual message to a child

:31:38.:31:44.

in England and Wales, unlike in Scotland

:31:45.:31:47.

and Northern Ireland, where this protection for children

:31:48.:31:48.

is already in place. The NSPCC has been campaigning

:31:49.:31:51.

for three years to change the law to finally make it illegal

:31:52.:31:54.

for adults to send We are really pleased the Government

:31:55.:31:58.

has finally listened. From Monday, children

:31:59.:32:02.

will be protected, just Today, if somebody sends a sexually

:32:03.:32:04.

explicit message to a child, The police just haven't got

:32:05.:32:07.

the tools to step in, until the abuse progresses to be

:32:08.:32:16.

something more dangerous. So, until an adult asks a child

:32:17.:32:19.

to commit a sexual act, We're really clear that

:32:20.:32:22.

waiting until that abuse Children need to be protected

:32:23.:32:27.

from the moment that they go online. You say that this is currently

:32:28.:32:32.

a crime in Scotland Do you have a sense of how many

:32:33.:32:34.

cases have been prevented, how many children have been

:32:35.:32:39.

protected from this? Certainly, in Scotland it has been

:32:40.:32:44.

in operation for about five years. Over the time there, they have

:32:45.:32:51.

recorded about 1500 offences. That means in England,

:32:52.:32:54.

if we scale that up, we think maybe 4000 offences

:32:55.:32:56.

could have been recorded That is 4000 cases that

:32:57.:32:58.

could have been recorded, where the police could have

:32:59.:33:01.

taken action earlier. How did you feel when the police

:33:02.:33:06.

or the CPS turned around to you, Molly, and said,

:33:07.:33:14.

When you'd been through all of that, the interviews,

:33:15.:33:17.

I was heartbroken, really heartbroken.

:33:18.:33:19.

Presumably that's the sort of thing you hear reasonably regularly

:33:20.:33:25.

We know that it can be very distressing for children to get

:33:26.:33:30.

That's exactly how online predators work, by building

:33:31.:33:37.

a relationship of trust, sending increasingly sexual

:33:38.:33:39.

messages with an aim of eventually meeting the child.

:33:40.:33:41.

We need to make sure that the police have the tools and resources

:33:42.:33:44.

so they can step in as early in the process as possible.

:33:45.:33:48.

It's really clear that there are things that parents and children

:33:49.:33:51.

can do to help protect themselves, by making sure they have the right

:33:52.:33:57.

privacy settings, especially in their social media accounts

:33:58.:33:59.

That is what Molly was saying, he got her phone

:34:00.:34:02.

You didn't even realise he could access that?

:34:03.:34:05.

There are steps that parents can take.

:34:06.:34:12.

There's loads of advice on the NSPCC website about it.

:34:13.:34:15.

If anybody's concerned about a child, they can always phone

:34:16.:34:18.

the NSPCC helpline and we will talk them through how they can take steps

:34:19.:34:21.

Molly realised this was wrong, she put a stop to it,

:34:22.:34:25.

there were never any meetings or anything like that.

:34:26.:34:28.

Are we doing enough, as parents, society, teachers, whatever,

:34:29.:34:31.

Because it's an awkward conversation to have with kids, isn't it?

:34:32.:34:40.

They are quite difficult conversations, about the risks

:34:41.:34:42.

of online behaviour and how to protect yourself.

:34:43.:34:45.

We are trying to support parents through the provision of the NSPCC

:34:46.:34:48.

helpline to make sure that parents can have some of those

:34:49.:34:51.

Where those relationships are built and parents can have those

:34:52.:34:57.

conversations in advance, that is the way to help protect

:34:58.:34:59.

children from these predators before the abuse escalates.

:35:00.:35:05.

Because you don't want to frighten young people and say,

:35:06.:35:08.

don't use social media, don't reach out to people.

:35:09.:35:10.

But, from your perspective, Molly, what would have helped you before

:35:11.:35:12.

so that you could have protected yourself better?

:35:13.:35:14.

I mean, it's clearly not your fault, but you understand what I'm saying?

:35:15.:35:17.

Did you feel you had enough information?

:35:18.:35:19.

To recognise the signs of what is going on would

:35:20.:35:24.

If anyone is watching this now, and they think this may

:35:25.:35:31.

be happening to them, it may be in the early stages,

:35:32.:35:35.

what would you say to that young person, or indeed to a parent

:35:36.:35:38.

who may fear it is happening to their child?

:35:39.:35:40.

It's that first step, isn't it, that's often the hardest, to say

:35:41.:35:55.

And that's fantastic advice, actually.

:35:56.:36:00.

If you, as a child, are concerned about any of this,

:36:01.:36:03.

speak to a responsible adult and they'll help you take action.

:36:04.:36:05.

Of course, any of these kind of sexual messages

:36:06.:36:08.

from an adult to a child will be illegal from Monday.

:36:09.:36:10.

It's really important they are reported to the police

:36:11.:36:12.

so the police can step in and stop the abuse before it escalates.

:36:13.:36:16.

How many children do you think this could potentially protect?

:36:17.:36:20.

Is this law going far enough, in your view?

:36:21.:36:22.

Well, this is a really big step forward and we are

:36:23.:36:25.

As I say, we think about 4000 offences could have been recorded

:36:26.:36:28.

But there is clearly more that we can do.

:36:29.:36:32.

We're really pleased that the Government starting to take

:36:33.:36:34.

action on relationships and sex education in schools.

:36:35.:36:36.

And there are organisations, like the NSPCC, who can help

:36:37.:36:38.

with some of the difficult online safety issues for

:36:39.:36:41.

Well, it affected my school life and my GCSE grades.

:36:42.:36:52.

At first it did, I was angry, I used to cry a lot about it and take it

:36:53.:37:04.

But now I don't really think it's had that much of a knock-on effect.

:37:05.:37:14.

Thank you both for coming on, I'm very grateful to both

:37:15.:37:17.

Lots of you are getting in touch about the NHS, the changes which are

:37:18.:37:28.

coming, the head of NHS England has been talking about a trade-off for

:37:29.:37:34.

better facilities and reducing waiting times at A Road but that

:37:35.:37:40.

means waiting longer for operations. Katz said, cancellation of my

:37:41.:37:43.

aneurysm operation twice, I turned up and waited for seven hours and

:37:44.:37:49.

then it was cancelled, my family had taken time off work to look after

:37:50.:37:52.

me, I'm 88. Mark says, I've been waiting for a

:37:53.:37:58.

follow-up appointment with a specialist since April 2016, it has

:37:59.:38:03.

been put back to April 2018 committee-macro years.

:38:04.:38:06.

This one says, my dad have been waiting for a second hip operation

:38:07.:38:10.

the six years, NHS staff do a fabulous job on the ground but this

:38:11.:38:15.

needs sorting out. Ahead of next month's French

:38:16.:38:19.

presidential elections, the Front National has been

:38:20.:38:20.

attracting increasing It's the country's main far-right

:38:21.:38:22.

party, led by Marine Le Pen, who's been a divisive figure

:38:23.:38:25.

in French politics for many years. James Reevell has been spending time

:38:26.:38:28.

in northern France with young activists in order to gain

:38:29.:38:31.

an insight into why they're drawn The contributors in this film

:38:32.:38:33.

express some frank views Front National are

:38:34.:38:37.

France's increasingly They have big hopes of winning next

:38:38.:39:14.

month's presidential election. More and more they are

:39:15.:39:19.

attracting young people, too. We spent a week in northern France

:39:20.:39:25.

with those fighting for the FN, We've been invited out

:39:26.:39:28.

on a protest with the FN's They're supporting the presidential

:39:29.:39:35.

candidate Marine le Pen. Hi, I'm Christophe,

:39:36.:40:18.

I'm 26, and I'm the head Christophe is part of the new

:40:19.:40:38.

generation of activists all believing that the FN's future is

:40:39.:40:43.

now mainstream. Over the last few years, the FN has rebranded itself.

:40:44.:40:47.

They say they are not fascist or racist but realists, they claim the

:40:48.:40:53.

fight is for everyone now. Christophe has taken to a school to

:40:54.:40:54.

spread the message. Hello, I'm Camille, and 22 years

:40:55.:42:10.

old, I'm a law student and I joined Front National more than two years

:42:11.:42:15.

ago. Camille is one of the FN's rising stars, collected as head of

:42:16.:42:17.

the area's youth division. Camille is off to show the area

:42:18.:42:53.

around university, it is diverse, raw, and to her it symbolises what

:42:54.:42:55.

is broken in France. But beyond this, what seems to

:42:56.:43:21.

really resonate with Camille is the FN's widely discredited claim that

:43:22.:43:24.

migrants get a better deal than white French people.

:43:25.:44:10.

Say hello to a group of extreme far right activists. They like Front

:44:11.:44:23.

National but think they are soft on Muslims. Their speciality is making

:44:24.:44:27.

slick videos as they stormed public buildings and display provocative

:44:28.:44:28.

banners. The citadel is basically an old

:44:29.:44:56.

right white Power members cup. It opened in September. -- members

:44:57.:45:00.

club. I just cracked on with

:45:01.:45:31.

what I had to do. Orioli and is short on details of

:45:32.:45:41.

his system. But it seems to boil down to getting Muslims to leave

:45:42.:45:43.

France voluntarily. When you speak to them about the

:45:44.:46:00.

election, you can feel the excitement. They clearly believe

:46:01.:46:04.

that the FN and Marine Le Pen is their big chance.

:46:05.:46:27.

Everyone I had spoken to so far had accused immigrants, and specifically

:46:28.:46:34.

Muslims, of failing to integrate or to really embrace being French. I

:46:35.:46:39.

decided to head to feel's largest Muslim neighbourhood. I wanted to

:46:40.:46:44.

find out what it felt like to be told you do not belong. I am Marian,

:46:45.:46:50.

I'm 25 years old, I am Muslim and I think France is becoming a racist

:46:51.:46:55.

country. Marian was born to immigrant parents

:46:56.:47:00.

in France. She is educated, works for a charity supports the French

:47:01.:47:04.

national football team. We don't have to hide. French is the biggest

:47:05.:47:10.

racist country in Europe -- Francis. They are making many laws against

:47:11.:47:14.

the hijab, mainly against the Muslims. It is racist. The Front

:47:15.:47:21.

National is an extreme party, racist. I don't have words. It is a

:47:22.:47:29.

racist party who thinks that France belongs to the white, but it is not.

:47:30.:47:35.

We used to just be friends, no matter our religion, but now the

:47:36.:47:41.

first question, for example when we choose friends is what is your

:47:42.:47:43.

nationality? Are you French? Face hello, I am William, I am 25

:47:44.:48:02.

years old. I think the Government have forgotten the people. William

:48:03.:48:08.

is a recent convert to the FN, joining two years ago. A pharmacist,

:48:09.:48:13.

he has swiftly risen through the ranks and is the back-up candidate

:48:14.:48:17.

for his area, a rule and industrial place where the party has always

:48:18.:48:21.

done well. Migration is one key issue, despite the area being

:48:22.:48:28.

largely white. We could be killed right now, it is a remote

:48:29.:48:31.

possibility that it could happen. That is horrible. I don't want to

:48:32.:48:36.

live in fear, I want everyone to be happy. Muslims, Christians,

:48:37.:48:40.

whatever, I don't care. What has become clear after meeting

:48:41.:48:44.

the FN is that their appeal is not just about Islamophobia or racism,

:48:45.:48:50.

it is about loss of jobs, identity and hope. William wants to show me

:48:51.:48:55.

his hometown, unemployment runs Haider and there is little positive

:48:56.:49:01.

about the future. -- unemployment runs high. We are going to the

:49:02.:49:08.

village where I live, it is a village of 1500 people. It is a

:49:09.:49:13.

small village, as you can see, it used to be a place where lots of

:49:14.:49:21.

people left, they were working in the textile industry.

:49:22.:49:27.

This place is a former factory of textiles, textile factory. Long ago

:49:28.:49:31.

they used to be lots of people were working here. You would have come...

:49:32.:49:36.

I was not born, you would have come 40 years ago, there would have been

:49:37.:49:39.

a lot of people right here in the city. Look now, it looks like it is

:49:40.:49:46.

a dead place. That is sad. The village is dying. I really think

:49:47.:49:53.

that what I'm doing is good for me, it is good for my family and friends

:49:54.:49:59.

and the people of France. I do it for a better future. What happens if

:50:00.:50:06.

that future does not come? Well... I think that politicians, most of them

:50:07.:50:11.

are here to give us hope. Because I think without hope we would be

:50:12.:50:16.

drowning in sorrow. We need hope, the human mind needs hope. To think

:50:17.:50:23.

of a good future, a brighter future. NHS bosses warn of delays to routine

:50:24.:50:34.

operations in England - We could see improvements in other

:50:35.:50:46.

areas like Cancer care is waiting times for A We will get the

:50:47.:50:49.

reaction from patients and doctors. Workers on the Government's National

:50:50.:50:51.

Living Wage will see their pay go up Over two million people currently

:50:52.:50:54.

receive the National Living Wage. At the moment, if you're over 24

:50:55.:50:58.

years old, you get ?7.20 an hour. From tomorrow, that will go

:50:59.:51:02.

up to ?7.50 an hour. The National Minimum Wage will also

:51:03.:51:06.

increase for those under 24 and it could boost the earnings

:51:07.:51:09.

of a typical full-time worker by ?600 a year,

:51:10.:51:11.

which some low paid workers say With us now are Catherine Chapman,

:51:12.:51:21.

director of the Living Wage Foundation, Sarah Steel,

:51:22.:51:28.

director of a small business and Solomon Smith, a youth worker

:51:29.:51:30.

on the National Living Wage. Solomon, just explain the difference

:51:31.:51:38.

this increase will make. It is 30p an hour, will it be significant? It

:51:39.:51:45.

is 30p and hour, you know? At least there is a bit of a change. But

:51:46.:51:51.

there still needs to be more. Even though a lot of people will be like,

:51:52.:51:56.

you know, the money has gone up, it will not really go up as people

:51:57.:52:03.

think it is. You have children, explained the struggle? I have two

:52:04.:52:09.

kids, once payday comes it comes and goes straightaway. How do you get

:52:10.:52:16.

by? Just learning what to pay for, you know? I pay my rent, I pay my

:52:17.:52:21.

school fees. I have been living on the red Koran two years. I want to

:52:22.:52:30.

bring in Sarah, she is an employer. Is this 30p an extra -- extra per

:52:31.:52:38.

hour challenging? It hurts some sectors really hard. We would not

:52:39.:52:42.

doubt that our stuff the King Arthur and educating young children deserve

:52:43.:52:46.

a higher wage. There are two issues, one is about keeping the

:52:47.:52:50.

differential, although we will be moving everybody up to meet the

:52:51.:52:53.

living way, it is important that people who have done more

:52:54.:52:58.

qualifications, we can keep the pay differential between the unqualified

:52:59.:53:02.

and well-qualified. For nurseries, lots of income comes from Government

:53:03.:53:07.

funding for three and four-year-olds, the Government

:53:08.:53:09.

effectively price fixes that, local authorities tell us what they will

:53:10.:53:14.

pay, they will not pay what it costs us. So when the living wage goes up,

:53:15.:53:18.

in order to pay staff more we have to pass on the Costa parents because

:53:19.:53:23.

government will not pay a so the fees go up. That has a knock-on

:53:24.:53:29.

effect. And it will not help people like Solomon... It ends up not worth

:53:30.:53:34.

going to work, it is a complicated system. You are at the other

:53:35.:53:38.

rendered you need the money but it is challenging for employers?

:53:39.:53:43.

Definitely, I have lots of friends who own businesses. I spoke to a

:53:44.:53:47.

friend yesterday and said this is going to absolutely kill my pocket

:53:48.:53:55.

-- and he said. Even though people want more money, the umpires had to

:53:56.:54:00.

pay more. It is a knock-on effect on both sides. -- the employers had to

:54:01.:54:05.

pay more. This is what you have campaigned for, you want a national

:54:06.:54:13.

Living Wage that is sensible. 30p an hour, it is enough of an increase?

:54:14.:54:18.

It is great that there is an increase, it will benefit low paid

:54:19.:54:22.

workers, but for millions of low paid and please the increase is not

:54:23.:54:27.

enough. We calculate a real living way completely separate to this

:54:28.:54:31.

minimum wage, based on what it actually costs to live, that is

:54:32.:54:38.

currently ?8.45 an hour in the UK and ?9.75 an hour in London. That is

:54:39.:54:45.

different to ?7.50, the difference of about ?45 a week in the UK and

:54:46.:54:50.

?95 in London, which makes a huge difference to those on low incomes.

:54:51.:54:56.

We already work with thousands of businesses who are choosing to go

:54:57.:55:00.

forward than the Government minimum wage, this is to the absolute legal

:55:01.:55:04.

floor, you are not breaking the law with this increase. We have

:55:05.:55:08.

employers choosing to go further because they want to make sure that

:55:09.:55:11.

everyone working for them has enough to live on. We have heard it is a

:55:12.:55:16.

challenge and nurseries so how can some businesses say they will pay

:55:17.:55:21.

more? We are increasingly hearing about some of the business benefits

:55:22.:55:25.

of paying better wages, some research tomorrow has fantastic

:55:26.:55:30.

statistics. When people are working for an employer that pays them well

:55:31.:55:33.

and they feel valued, motivation goes up, staff retention rates

:55:34.:55:40.

improve, absenteeism and sickness rates go down, real business

:55:41.:55:43.

benefits as well as being good for stuff, so it can be a win-win for

:55:44.:55:48.

business and society. -- being good for staff. We have seen real

:55:49.:55:54.

movements recently in low paid industry. A few years ago people

:55:55.:55:58.

thought paying the living weight would be really difficult on retail,

:55:59.:56:03.

for example. IKEA had signed up, we have added around 3000 of their

:56:04.:56:09.

co-workers. There is scope for further growth and to pay these

:56:10.:56:15.

higher wages. That is not realistic in your business, Sarah? I would say

:56:16.:56:20.

lots of nurseries already pay... We pay lots of our staff more than the

:56:21.:56:24.

living way. In order to push everybody up and keep those pay

:56:25.:56:29.

differentials, in some areas it is not realistic, in some areas it is.

:56:30.:56:34.

Maybe in nurseries and health care, social care, it is very difficult.

:56:35.:56:39.

For as it is about getting fair funding from the Government, that

:56:40.:56:44.

would make the difference. I agree about the benefits of treating your

:56:45.:56:47.

staff well and wanting them to stay with you. In nurseries, early years,

:56:48.:56:52.

retention of good stuff is a real issue. We pay better, we get better

:56:53.:56:57.

people and they want to stay with us, but it is very hard trying to

:56:58.:57:01.

put that as a blanket across everybody. One size will not fit

:57:02.:57:05.

all. What difference would ?9.45 an hour

:57:06.:57:11.

make to your lifestyle? Are to be absolutely fantastic. Despite me

:57:12.:57:21.

having a degree and a Masters, I never think about degree and Masters

:57:22.:57:24.

wages, I just think about real wages. Can it pay my rent? Just so I

:57:25.:57:28.

can just look into my bank account and I am not in the red. That will

:57:29.:57:34.

be mind blowing. Doing everything I am doing and still feeling like

:57:35.:57:42.

where I am now is absolutely not a good feeling. Sometimes I might go

:57:43.:57:47.

to work and I am just like... You know? Where is the motivation? One

:57:48.:57:52.

of the main things is about motivating staff. I run a homeless

:57:53.:57:57.

organisation and we are strictly on all volunteers. Because I know I

:57:58.:58:01.

can't pay my staff I will do other things, even if it is benefits like

:58:02.:58:05.

the cinema, doing little things like that, you start to see how your

:58:06.:58:11.

staff treat you. Imagine if I could start paying them, you know? It is

:58:12.:58:16.

good for me who experiences this knowing that this is what I would

:58:17.:58:20.

not want for my stuff. But presumably it is dreamland to pay ?9

:58:21.:58:32.

45? That is the London living wage. But Solomon lives in London.

:58:33.:58:37.

Absolutely. We have seen real growth in London living wage and players.

:58:38.:58:41.

Thousands of those small businesses, small independent firms choosing to

:58:42.:58:44.

pay the higher rate. They want to make sure that people work for them,

:58:45.:58:48.

not having to worry about these challenges you just mentioned. They

:58:49.:58:52.

have the time to devote to the job, nothing to worry about paying the

:58:53.:58:55.

bills all the school uniform at the start of term. It is great to see an

:58:56.:59:01.

increase in the minimum wage, but there is further to go.

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I am sure it is a conversation that lots of people will get in touch

:59:05.:59:07.

about. Matthew Taylor has the weather.

:59:08.:59:11.

A grey, damp start boss. The rain is soon to depart. It will rain for

:59:12.:59:23.

much of the day in Scotland, showers will arrive later in Northern

:59:24.:59:26.

Ireland, West Wales and Cornwall. Not as warm as the 22 Celsius saw

:59:27.:59:30.

yesterday but pleasant enough for this stage in March. Showers

:59:31.:59:35.

tonight, mainly in the West. Eastern areas will be dry, fairly clear and

:59:36.:59:39.

cooler than recently. Temperatures into the start of the weekend into

:59:40.:59:43.

single figures. A slightly fresh start than over the past few

:59:44.:59:46.

moorings. Morning sunshine for quite a few of view but showers in the

:59:47.:59:50.

West initially will develop more widely through the day, lighter

:59:51.:59:57.

winds so slow-moving, could be heavy inventory, particularly across parts

:59:58.:00:00.

of England and Wales. Between the showers we will see sunshine, in

:00:01.:00:03.

that sunshine temperatures still in the mid to high teens at the very,

:00:04.:00:06.

very best. Cooler through Saturday into Sunday,

:00:07.:00:10.

a chilly start to the second half of the weekend, but much, much drier,

:00:11.:00:14.

showers few and far between, most with sunshine.

:00:15.:00:22.

The president of the European Council, Donald Tusk,

:00:23.:00:35.

rejects Theresa May's request for Brexit negotiations to run side

:00:36.:00:37.

by side with talks on the UK's future relationship with the bloc.

:00:38.:00:40.

Starting parallel talks on all issues at the same time, as

:00:41.:00:45.

suggested by some in the UK, will not happen.

:00:46.:00:50.

We will get the Government's reaction and be live in Malta for

:00:51.:00:51.

the fallout there. A longer wait for routine

:00:52.:00:53.

operations in England. NHS bosses say it's a "trade off"

:00:54.:00:56.

for improvements in other areas. We will get the views of

:00:57.:01:08.

professionals and those on the waiting list in the next hour.

:01:09.:01:10.

And the schoolgirl code breakers taking the cyber

:01:11.:01:12.

Find out why they're poised to become the next James Bonds

:01:13.:01:16.

The president of the European Council, Donald Tusk, has been

:01:17.:01:36.

outlining how the EU intends to carry out Brexit negotiations.

:01:37.:01:39.

Speaking in Malta he warned the talks would be complex and sometimes

:01:40.:01:43.

confrontational, and he said negotiations on future trade

:01:44.:01:47.

relations can only began after sufficient progress has been made on

:01:48.:01:51.

disentangling Britain from the obligations of its 44 year

:01:52.:01:52.

membership of the EU. Only once we have achieved

:01:53.:02:01.

sufficient progress on the withdrawal can we discuss the

:02:02.:02:04.

framework of our future relationship. Starting parallel

:02:05.:02:08.

talks on all issues at the same time, as suggested by some in the

:02:09.:02:16.

UK, will not happen. And when talking about our future

:02:17.:02:21.

relationship, we obviously shared the UK's desire to establish a close

:02:22.:02:28.

partnership with Europe. Strong ties reaching beyond the economy and

:02:29.:02:33.

including security cooperation remain in our common interest. Let

:02:34.:02:41.

me conclude by saying that the talks which are about to start will be

:02:42.:02:45.

difficult, complex, and sometimes even confrontational. There is no

:02:46.:02:53.

way around it. The EU 27 does not and will not pursue a punitive

:02:54.:02:54.

approach. Waiting times will be longer

:02:55.:02:57.

for routine operations, such as hip and knee replacements,

:02:58.:03:00.

as a trade-off for improvements in A performance and better

:03:01.:03:03.

treatment in other areas. That's according to the Head of NHS

:03:04.:03:10.

England, Simon Stevens, who is unveiling a strategy

:03:11.:03:14.

for the NHS over the next two years. He says increasing patient demand

:03:15.:03:17.

and the growth in new treatments MPs say it's unacceptable that

:03:18.:03:20.

residents who pay their own fees at care homes in England are charged

:03:21.:03:24.

on average 43% more than those The Communities and Local Government

:03:25.:03:27.

Committee blames a lack of funding, which it says is threatening

:03:28.:03:33.

the viability of adult The Government says it's already

:03:34.:03:35.

given councils an extra ?2 billion. Hotels, restaurants and tourist

:03:36.:03:44.

attractions have warned ministers of the possible consequences

:03:45.:03:46.

of restricting the movement The British Hospitality Association

:03:47.:03:47.

predicts a shortfall of 60,000 workers a year if immigration

:03:48.:03:53.

is limited from the EU. The Government says it will design

:03:54.:03:59.

a new immigration system That's a summary of the latest BBC

:04:00.:04:01.

News - more at 10:30am. Lots of you getting in touch with us

:04:02.:04:14.

this morning about routine operations being delayed, cancelled.

:04:15.:04:20.

An e-mail, I was the victim of a hit-and-run accident in January,

:04:21.:04:23.

left with a double fracture of the collarbone and four broken ribs. The

:04:24.:04:27.

hospital sent be home the same day and told me to come back the next

:04:28.:04:30.

day to see if a bed was free, there was still no bed the next day.

:04:31.:04:34.

An anonymous text, my son has been waiting for an operation at

:04:35.:04:37.

Birmingham Children's Hospital for two years, he was ready for the

:04:38.:04:41.

operation this week only to be told it was cancelled less

:04:42.:04:54.

than 24 hours before it was due to start because they had no sterile

:04:55.:04:58.

equipment to use in his operation. Keep those coming in, your

:04:59.:05:00.

experiences of routine operations being delayed, we will talk more

:05:01.:05:01.

about that in the next few minutes. If you text, you will be charged

:05:02.:05:03.

at the standard network rate. What a couple of seasons it's been

:05:04.:05:07.

for Manchester City Women. They did the league and cup double

:05:08.:05:11.

last year, now they're through to the semifinals

:05:12.:05:13.

of the Champions League Lucy Bronze headed home

:05:14.:05:15.

the only goal of the match against Fortuna Hjerring,

:05:16.:05:19.

to give them a 2-0 aggregate win Next up City face the

:05:20.:05:21.

reigning champions Lyon. And their captain Steph Horton

:05:22.:05:24.

is excited by the challenge. We don't stop here, we're excited to

:05:25.:05:35.

be involved in the semifinal, we know that Leon are a very

:05:36.:05:38.

experienced team and they have a team full of world-class

:05:39.:05:42.

individuals, but so have weak, and it's going to be an exciting game

:05:43.:05:43.

for sure. A shocking claim from Stoke City

:05:44.:05:45.

striker Saido Berahino. He served an eight week doping ban

:05:46.:05:48.

earlier this season whilst at his former club West Brom,

:05:49.:05:51.

but he says it was because his drink Berahino insists that there was such

:05:52.:05:54.

a small amount in his system, it proves he couldn't have taken

:05:55.:05:59.

the drug intentionally. For me to get banned for something

:06:00.:06:11.

that I really haven't Because if I was going to get high,

:06:12.:06:14.

like talking about whether you wanted to get high,

:06:15.:06:20.

maybe the numbers would have came higher,

:06:21.:06:22.

if it was found in my system. But it was really, really low,

:06:23.:06:25.

so why would you want to take But because I'm in the Premier

:06:26.:06:28.

League, the FA have And you can watch the the full

:06:29.:06:34.

interview on Football Focus clubs feel aggrieved at the lack of

:06:35.:06:53.

recognition for their community work according to Richard Scudamore. He

:06:54.:06:56.

was speaking at the launch of an event to provide resources to

:06:57.:07:00.

thousands of primary schools. We have a power that motivates

:07:01.:07:04.

people, motivate young people particularly, and therefore because

:07:05.:07:07.

we can, we should, and that is what it is about and why we are doing it.

:07:08.:07:11.

The campaign above the line is to make sure schools engage and begged

:07:12.:07:14.

the programme a success, and hopefully hearts and minds will

:07:15.:07:17.

alter in terms of some of the perceptions towards some of the

:07:18.:07:20.

things the Premier League stands for.

:07:21.:07:20.

Tennis now. Joanna Konta continues to impress -

:07:21.:07:27.

she's become the first British woman Konta beat Venus Williams

:07:28.:07:30.

and will now play Caroline Amazing to think Konta was just six

:07:31.:07:34.

years old when Williams first won Konta has said Venus is one

:07:35.:07:38.

of her all time heroes, but dispatched her opponent

:07:39.:07:42.

in straight sets. I'm very happy to have come through

:07:43.:07:52.

that, I wasn't able to serve it out the first time but the second time

:07:53.:07:56.

around I was able to, so I think, yes, relief and obviously excitement

:07:57.:07:59.

that I get to be part of the last day of the tournament.

:08:00.:08:01.

England's Charley Hull is in contention at the first

:08:02.:08:08.

women's major of the year, the ANA Inspiration in California.

:08:09.:08:10.

But the woman grabbing the headlines is this golfer,

:08:11.:08:18.

South Korean amateur Seong Eun-jeong.

:08:19.:08:19.

And she made a hole-in-one at the fifth.

:08:20.:08:24.

What about that? She is only 17, look at her reaction. Brilliant,

:08:25.:08:32.

fabulous to see that from her. That is all the sport by now, I will be

:08:33.:08:35.

back with a headline that about 10:30am.

:08:36.:08:40.

Talks between the EU and UK on Brexit will be difficult and

:08:41.:08:48.

sometimes confrontational according to the president of the European

:08:49.:08:57.

Council, Donald Tusk. He has said there is no desire to punish Britain

:08:58.:09:01.

and has said that parallel negotiations can only begin once

:09:02.:09:03.

sufficient progress is made in the divorce proceedings.

:09:04.:09:09.

Citizens from all over the EU live, work and study in the UK, and as

:09:10.:09:13.

long as the UK remains a member, their rights are fully protected.

:09:14.:09:17.

But we need to settle the status and situation

:09:18.:09:20.

after the withdrawal with reciprocal, enforceable,

:09:21.:09:21.

Second, we must prevent a legal vacuum for our companies that

:09:22.:09:33.

stems from the fact that, after Brexit, EU laws will no

:09:34.:09:36.

Third, we will also need to make sure that the UK honours

:09:37.:09:42.

all financial commitments and liabilities it has

:09:43.:09:44.

It is only fair towards all those people, communities,

:09:45.:09:57.

scientists, farmers and so on, to whom we, all the 28,

:09:58.:09:59.

I can guarantee that the EU, on our part, will honour

:10:00.:10:15.

Fourth, we will seek flexible and creative solutions aiming

:10:16.:10:25.

at avoiding a hard border between Northern

:10:26.:10:27.

It is of crucial importance to support the peace process

:10:28.:10:31.

These four issues are all part of the first phase of our negotiation.

:10:32.:10:43.

Once and only once we have achieved sufficient progress of the four can

:10:44.:10:48.

we discuss the framework of our future relationship.

:10:49.:10:57.

Starting parallel talks on all issues at the same time,

:10:58.:11:00.

as suggested by some in the UK, will not happen.

:11:01.:11:04.

And, when talking about our future relationship, we obviously share

:11:05.:11:06.

the UK's desire to establish a close partnership between us.

:11:07.:11:15.

Strong ties reaching beyond the economy and including

:11:16.:11:17.

security cooperation remain in our common interest.

:11:18.:11:30.

Our political correspondent Iain Watson is in Westminster.

:11:31.:11:34.

Is this a rebuff to Theresa May? The language from Donald Tusk is

:11:35.:11:42.

firm, rather than anything else, but we heard from him saying, look, at

:11:43.:11:47.

times the talks would be confrontational. When it comes to a

:11:48.:11:51.

rebirth, remember this, this is what Theresa May asked of the European

:11:52.:11:55.

Union Council, of which Donald Tusk is president, with the letter

:11:56.:11:59.

triggering Article 50. She said, we believe it is necessary to agree the

:12:00.:12:02.

terms of a future partnership alongside those of our withdrawal

:12:03.:12:09.

from the EU. Today, Donald Tusk has said, almost in terms, no chance,

:12:10.:12:13.

there will be no parallel negotiations. He said the first

:12:14.:12:17.

phase would be the untangling of the relationship with the rest of the

:12:18.:12:21.

EU, and only then would move onto a second phase, which would be looking

:12:22.:12:24.

at the future relationship with trade and so on. But the people who

:12:25.:12:28.

will decide whether that second phase will be triggered will be the

:12:29.:12:32.

European Council themselves, not some independent body, not the UK,

:12:33.:12:36.

but the European Council. No final trade deal will be until Britain has

:12:37.:12:44.

left the European Union, and in addition to that, if there is any

:12:45.:12:47.

transitional arrangement, Britain would have to accept a supervisory

:12:48.:12:51.

role as they do currently as a member, these are not things that

:12:52.:12:56.

Theresa May is in favour of, she wants to leave the European Court of

:12:57.:13:00.

Justice and what's negotiations to run in parallel, and Donald Tusk is

:13:01.:13:03.

very clear that will not happen. In the last few minutes we had Downing

:13:04.:13:07.

Street's reaction, a statement following that press conference by

:13:08.:13:10.

Donald Tusk and following the publication of the draft guidelines.

:13:11.:13:15.

In it they say, effectively stressing these are draft

:13:16.:13:19.

guidelines, we look forward to beginning negotiations once they are

:13:20.:13:22.

formally agreed by the 27 remaining members of the European Union.

:13:23.:13:26.

Downing Street goes on to say, it is clear both sides which to approach

:13:27.:13:30.

the talks constructively and as the Prime Minister said this week we

:13:31.:13:33.

wish to ensure a deep and special partnership between the UK and

:13:34.:13:37.

European union, so Downing Street doing nothing at this stage to fan

:13:38.:13:41.

the flames. They say, in effect, this is a negotiation, this is the

:13:42.:13:46.

opening salvo but we hope to move onto more constructive talks later.

:13:47.:13:49.

To be further, there is some constructive progress, both sides

:13:50.:13:54.

clearly want to sort out the status and rights of EU citizens, they

:13:55.:13:57.

recognise the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of

:13:58.:14:01.

Ireland require special attention, but that the issue, can you have

:14:02.:14:04.

talks on trade going alongside if you like the divorce settlement, the

:14:05.:14:09.

bill we have to pay to leave the European Union, they are in two

:14:10.:14:13.

different places, Theresa May want it to happen together, Donald Tusk

:14:14.:14:16.

and the European Council clear today that they do not. Ian, thank you.

:14:17.:14:18.

Our correspondent Chris Morris is in Malta.

:14:19.:14:22.

You were in the press conference with Donald Tusk, we saw you asking

:14:23.:14:29.

a question there. The tough talk has really started now, hasn't it?

:14:30.:14:35.

Yes, it has. Cast your mind back two days, when Donald Tusk appeared in

:14:36.:14:39.

Brussels with Theresa May's letter, he sounded emotional, genuinely

:14:40.:14:43.

upset. Today it about all about business, this is our response and

:14:44.:14:47.

it will be tough. Clear indication from this press conference, the big

:14:48.:14:52.

thought is that the EU now believes it is in control of the process. For

:14:53.:14:56.

nine months, since the referendum, Theresa May had the timing in her

:14:57.:15:01.

hands, it was her decision went to trigger Article 50. Now that it has

:15:02.:15:05.

been done, it is the EU which says, we are going to set the tone, we

:15:06.:15:09.

will spend another month debating the draft guidelines then have the

:15:10.:15:12.

summit of the 27 leaders to approve them, possibly slightly amended,

:15:13.:15:24.

then they have to be turned into a form of the associated directive,

:15:25.:15:26.

and only then will negotiations start, and they have to start on our

:15:27.:15:29.

terms. The UK could say, we don't accept that, but if the other 27

:15:30.:15:31.

countries are united in sailing, divorce and separation first then

:15:32.:15:33.

when sufficient progress is made, and they will judge what that means,

:15:34.:15:37.

then we talk about the future, and only when we have made progress on

:15:38.:15:40.

that will we talk about transition from one to the other. That is the

:15:41.:15:45.

EU saying, this is our process, our treaty that the process is being

:15:46.:15:50.

done under, and we are considering things in a cooperative way, very

:15:51.:15:55.

polite and constructive, as a third country with which we are

:15:56.:15:58.

negotiating -- we are considering you in a cooperative way.

:15:59.:16:01.

The woman who found out she was autisic at 45.

:16:02.:16:04.

Find out how the diagnosis changed her life and what's

:16:05.:16:06.

she's doing now to deal with her condition.

:16:07.:16:09.

Waiting up to 18 weeks for surgery, often in pain,

:16:10.:16:14.

But now NHS patients in England are being warned they may have

:16:15.:16:18.

to wait longer for routine operations such as hip and knee

:16:19.:16:21.

replacements, cataract removal, hernia operations and laparoscopies.

:16:22.:16:23.

Speaking to Today on Radio Four, Simon Stevens, the head of NHS

:16:24.:16:26.

England, says it is a "trade off" for improvements in other areas,

:16:27.:16:32.

such as the four hour A target and better cancer care.

:16:33.:16:35.

He says increasing patient demand and the growth in new treatments

:16:36.:16:37.

mean that radical choices have to be made.

:16:38.:16:42.

The NHS has made huge strides over the course of the last ten or 15

:16:43.:16:45.

years in cutting long waits for operations, and we are

:16:46.:16:48.

So people, I think, would be surprised to remember that,

:16:49.:16:54.

15 years ago, you might be waiting 18 months for your hip

:16:55.:16:57.

or your knee operation, now nine out of ten people it is 18

:16:58.:17:02.

weeks, the average wait for an operation is ten weeks.

:17:03.:17:06.

What we're saying is that, over the next couple of years,

:17:07.:17:09.

we want to have more funded operations on the NHS,

:17:10.:17:13.

but we recognise that the rate of growth is probably going to have

:17:14.:17:16.

to be a little bit slower than it has been at points in the past,

:17:17.:17:19.

because we also want to make big improvements in cancer care,

:17:20.:17:22.

in GP services, and in mental Health Services as well.

:17:23.:17:29.

But you will know that Claire Marks of the Royal College of Surgeons has

:17:30.:17:32.

said that there is a risk that you will have unacceptably long

:17:33.:17:39.

waits, a return to that, and suggesting that the 18 week

:17:40.:17:42.

target has now effectively been jettisoned.

:17:43.:17:43.

The reality is that there are pressures right

:17:44.:17:46.

across the health service, they are well known,

:17:47.:17:48.

and under those circumstances we have to make a start on sorting

:17:49.:17:54.

out particularly those pressures in A departments which we've seen

:17:55.:17:57.

It's right that we start with the most urgent

:17:58.:18:01.

and pressing problems, but then over the course of the next

:18:02.:18:04.

several years we want to be able to expand or continue to expand

:18:05.:18:07.

the amount of surgery that's being done so that waiting times

:18:08.:18:14.

The fact is that we are already looking

:18:15.:18:19.

after, providing 5000 more operations a day now

:18:20.:18:21.

than we were in 2010, and we've got one of the lowest

:18:22.:18:23.

waiting times for routine nonurgent operations of any

:18:24.:18:25.

Under the current NHS guidelines, 92% of patients with non-urgent

:18:26.:18:30.

conditions should be treated within 18 weeks of

:18:31.:18:32.

The maximum waiting time for suspected cancer is two

:18:33.:18:38.

If a hospital or service cancels your appointment at the last minute,

:18:39.:18:45.

they should offer another date within 28 days.

:18:46.:18:56.

WE were hoping to speak to Hugh Pym, who is not with us now. We can speak

:18:57.:19:03.

to Christine Moon, she is on an NHS waiting list for a single coronary

:19:04.:19:09.

bypass. And we can speak to Tim Briggs, an orthopaedic surgeon and

:19:10.:19:15.

the NHS National clinical director for efficiency and quality.

:19:16.:19:21.

Christine, what is your situation? I saw my cardiac surgeon last

:19:22.:19:27.

November. I was told 18 weeks. At the end of the 18 week period I

:19:28.:19:31.

phoned the hospital to try to find out when I might be admitted and was

:19:32.:19:38.

told they could give me no idea at all, they were completely

:19:39.:19:42.

backlogged, people in critical care beds were blocking beds and I was

:19:43.:19:45.

told nobody in the hospital could give me any idea when my operation

:19:46.:19:51.

was likely to take place. So you just sit and wait for the hospital

:19:52.:20:01.

to give you a date? I have decided to go privately because I just

:20:02.:20:05.

cannot carry on my life waiting for this to happen. It is like having a

:20:06.:20:10.

sword hanging over my head. Are you feeling unwell or is it the simple

:20:11.:20:14.

logistics of feeling like you are in limbo? It is feeling I am in limbo,

:20:15.:20:21.

I am taking six tablets a day to alleviate my systems. I guess lots

:20:22.:20:25.

of people are in much worse position than I am, they have probably been

:20:26.:20:30.

waiting longer than me. 18 weeks means absolutely nothing. I want to

:20:31.:20:38.

bring in Tim Briggs, you are a consultant orthopaedic surgeon. I

:20:39.:20:43.

guess many of your patients are the very people who might be affected by

:20:44.:20:47.

this announcement today? If you look at what the NHS has done in the last

:20:48.:20:51.

50 years to bring down waiting times to the historical lows of the

:20:52.:20:56.

moment, it has been an amazing job by many people. If you look at the

:20:57.:21:01.

National joint Registry founded in 2003, when there were 47,000 joint

:21:02.:21:06.

replacements registered in one year, last year it was over 200,000, it

:21:07.:21:12.

shows you the rising demand, and with the ageing population and the

:21:13.:21:16.

demands on the health service. I think the health service should be

:21:17.:21:19.

congratulated on the actual work it has done in the last few years to

:21:20.:21:23.

bring the waiting times down to the historical lows that we see now, and

:21:24.:21:31.

patients, in terms of quality, timing of the operation is not the

:21:32.:21:36.

only aspiration. It is also getting the best quality outcome. It is a

:21:37.:21:40.

mixture of the two components that produces the best result for

:21:41.:21:45.

patients. That does not help the likes of Christine, she is pulling

:21:46.:21:49.

faces and shaking her head, clearly disagreeing with what you are

:21:50.:21:54.

saying. Lots of people have got into it talking about the delays they are

:21:55.:21:58.

facing already, this will get worse. For people in pain it is no comfort

:21:59.:22:02.

at all. We had to look at what is happening

:22:03.:22:08.

at the moment in the accident and emergency departments, they are

:22:09.:22:11.

under huge pressure. More patients are being admitted to hospitals,

:22:12.:22:15.

delayed transfers of care which I hope has been resolved with the

:22:16.:22:19.

Chancellor's announcement in the budget of the ?2 billion. This means

:22:20.:22:23.

there has been a lot of pressure on beds. If we are going to provide a

:22:24.:22:29.

sustainable health service going forward, to provide excellent,

:22:30.:22:33.

timely care for patients, we have to free up those beds, and we do that

:22:34.:22:37.

by increasing the discharge rates of patients from hospital which has

:22:38.:22:41.

been announced in the Budget with increased funding of ?2 billion for

:22:42.:22:45.

social care, but we also have to sort out the front end of the

:22:46.:22:50.

hospital A departments, reducing the number of patients coming to

:22:51.:22:56.

hospital, to A, the number of patients admitted, sometimes not

:22:57.:23:00.

necessarily. And we have to resolve that to have the bed capacity to

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provide elective care for the patients. I welcome the report in

:23:05.:23:10.

many ways, I'm an orthopaedic surgeon at the front line, I treat

:23:11.:23:14.

patients, I think patients will understand that we had to try to

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sort out the system so we can maintain the frequency at which we

:23:19.:23:23.

can deliver the 18 week target for patients, I don't believe it is

:23:24.:23:28.

being jettisoned, actually. What we are trying to do is sort out the

:23:29.:23:32.

system to maintain it as we go forward. Professor Briggs, I would

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def Chris Dean understands. You say most patients will understand this,

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Christine, feel free to speak to Tim Briggs. -- Professor Briggs, I

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wonder if Christine understands. I don't understand, you say you are

:23:50.:23:52.

trying to sort out problems and A, in the area where I live I

:23:53.:23:57.

understand that A is under immense pressure. There is a walk-in unit

:23:58.:24:02.

being established in Corby which I read with absolute horror is now due

:24:03.:24:06.

to close due to lack of NHS spending. Why? To respond to that, I

:24:07.:24:14.

have been in the privileged position in the last two years of visiting

:24:15.:24:19.

every single hospital in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern

:24:20.:24:23.

Ireland, overall the pressure on A departments is huge, they have had

:24:24.:24:26.

huge pressure over the winter months, as we all know. We had to

:24:27.:24:30.

try to resolve that, because the more patients coming through the

:24:31.:24:34.

front door and getting admitted to hospital with delays of transfer

:24:35.:24:38.

means there are not the beds available to do the collective

:24:39.:24:45.

planned surgery. Over the next 24, 36 months, we need to try to resolve

:24:46.:24:50.

that issue. Simon Stevens said today that no one is jettisoning the 18

:24:51.:24:54.

week targets, we want that to be the norm for patients, but we have to

:24:55.:24:58.

sort out the service at both the front and back end is to mean that

:24:59.:25:02.

we have got the elective capacity and the beds in order to get these

:25:03.:25:08.

elective cases done. I think you should not inform

:25:09.:25:12.

patients about this magical waiting time when clearly it means nothing.

:25:13.:25:16.

I would rather be told you might have your surgery in a year, if we

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can bring its -- forward we will. Why not be honest upfront? Why not

:25:24.:25:29.

say 18 weeks, when it means nothing? What I would say to that is that I

:25:30.:25:35.

work, as I say, in a provider hospital, all the NHS staff are

:25:36.:25:39.

working tirelessly and very hard to try to make sure that they maintain

:25:40.:25:45.

the elective servers as efficiently and effectively and as high-quality

:25:46.:25:49.

as they can. But we have been under a lot of pressure and we have to

:25:50.:25:53.

have a bit of a breathing space and time to sort out the front and back

:25:54.:25:58.

end of the hospital to free up these beds. I do not want to see, and what

:25:59.:26:04.

will not happen, is going back to historical times of the past when

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people were waiting three years, 18 months for surgery, but I believe we

:26:10.:26:14.

need breathing space in order to sort out the system so that we can

:26:15.:26:19.

maintain the elective capacity to do elective surgery at the appropriate

:26:20.:26:23.

time, that is what we are trying to do. Thank you, Professor Tim Briggs,

:26:24.:26:30.

and Christine, best of luck. That look the best of luck in getting a

:26:31.:26:33.

date. The NHS says it wants to stop

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children and young people having to travel far from home to get mental

:26:39.:26:39.

health care. Let's talk now to Marjorie Wallace

:26:40.:26:42.

of the mental health charity Sane. Sally Burke's teenage daughter

:26:43.:26:45.

Maisie was admitted to ten hospitals in the last three years and none

:26:46.:26:47.

of them near her home. Sally, I want to come to you first.

:26:48.:26:56.

Give us a sense of how difficult that has been for you, coping with

:26:57.:27:00.

Maisie being in so many places around the country? It is

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horrendous, as a family we have not been able to support Maisie at her

:27:05.:27:09.

most vulnerable. It has been very difficult as a parent to know that

:27:10.:27:14.

your child needs you but is at least an hour away, some of the photos I

:27:15.:27:18.

have had from Maisie or the police or the unit I read it difficult to

:27:19.:27:21.

deal with and not be able to take part in trying to help her through

:27:22.:27:25.

that -- some of the phone calls I have had. Presumably you had to

:27:26.:27:33.

travel each time, there is a cost indication? Always a cost. What

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about the cost to Maisie of being in so many places, was that problematic

:27:40.:27:46.

for her? Absolutely, each admission has caused more problems, none has

:27:47.:27:51.

been helpful in helping her get over her problems. She has become

:27:52.:27:56.

homesick, lost touch with friends in the community, it has had a knock-on

:27:57.:28:00.

effect on all of the aspects in her life including school. Marjorie, you

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are nodding, is this just about more money, more beds, more units so that

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people like Maisie can be treated closer to home? Lots of it is but it

:28:10.:28:16.

is about attitude to mental illness as well, so it is treated with the

:28:17.:28:19.

same seriousness as physical illness. We are hearing about

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waiting times of 18 weeks, in Melton -- in mental illness it is sometimes

:28:26.:28:28.

years and sometimes there are no beds available at all. Sometimes

:28:29.:28:32.

there are no local beds available, we have lost half the number of

:28:33.:28:38.

psychiatric beds 2000. 25,000 beds have been closed down. That means a

:28:39.:28:44.

person who becomes critically ill, like Maisie was, who is self harming

:28:45.:28:49.

and suicidal, they go to A and sent home and it is on a wing and a

:28:50.:28:53.

prayer that the community mental health team comes. Sally, how did

:28:54.:28:58.

you access that care for Maisie? Sometimes we have had to wait up to

:28:59.:29:02.

two weeks for Maisie to be admitted to a bed, it has just been cope at

:29:03.:29:07.

home, if you are not coping, ring the police, that has a knock-on

:29:08.:29:12.

effect because the police are not happy because it is a mental health

:29:13.:29:19.

problem. Really, I have had to fight every system is apparent, challenge

:29:20.:29:25.

every decision. It is not just more money, sending Maisie away to a bed

:29:26.:29:29.

costs a lot more than if they provided proper care at home and

:29:30.:29:34.

supports to keep her at home in the community with the right support and

:29:35.:29:38.

care that she needs. What support and care which you need to stay at

:29:39.:29:43.

home in the community? Experience, trained staff working around the

:29:44.:29:47.

clock with her. At the moment to get her to a steady ground so she can

:29:48.:29:53.

reintegrate back into routine and life. Marjorie, would that be

:29:54.:29:57.

cheaper than sending Maisie to a unit? Not necessarily, you have to

:29:58.:30:03.

have an intensive investment in that person. We are finding again and

:30:04.:30:09.

again at Sane, we get so many calls, people are not admitted to the

:30:10.:30:12.

hospital or units and they are put under the care of the crisis

:30:13.:30:16.

resolution teams, the rate of suicide amongst mental health

:30:17.:30:20.

patients under these teams has trebled in 13 years and is three

:30:21.:30:27.

times as much as in hospital. These community teams, they are having

:30:28.:30:30.

cutbacks, it is not just the closure to beds but the cutbacks in the

:30:31.:30:34.

teams, they don't have the time to spend with people. It puts people

:30:35.:30:36.

who need that time at risk. For you, Sally, what difference will

:30:37.:30:47.

be the extra beds and units make to Maisie if there is another situation

:30:48.:30:50.

where she needs to be admitted? If there was a Bedene. Home, what

:30:51.:30:53.

difference would it make to you and your family? -- a bed near your

:30:54.:30:59.

home. It would mean people could visit her daily, she could come out

:31:00.:31:03.

into the community, take part in a family event instead of feeling

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isolated and lonely, she could access school, so her routine would

:31:07.:31:12.

continue. Plus, the people in her care when she didn't need a bed

:31:13.:31:17.

would be in our community, so that experience and those professionals

:31:18.:31:19.

would always be at Maisie's doorstep. How is she now? She just

:31:20.:31:28.

came out of a unit last week, she is trying to transition back into

:31:29.:31:31.

normal life, she is up and down, very sad at the moment. Sally, thank

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you for coming on, best of luck to Maisie, and thank you also Marjorie

:31:38.:31:43.

for joining us. We had an e-mail from healthy about

:31:44.:31:47.

the NHS, I live in Northern Ireland and suffer from glaucoma which could

:31:48.:31:50.

lead to blindness if not managed properly. I was due to see my

:31:51.:31:55.

consultant in December 20 for a once a year checkup. When I rang this

:31:56.:31:59.

morning to see why I have not received an appointment, I was told

:32:00.:32:02.

the consultant had retired and no-one had been put in place to take

:32:03.:32:06.

over the running of the clinic. I was told to consult my GP if I had

:32:07.:32:12.

any further with my eyesight. We have no sitting Government in

:32:13.:32:14.

Northern Ireland at the moment because the elected representatives

:32:15.:32:17.

will not sit down with each other to talk about running the country. My

:32:18.:32:20.

problem is minor but there are others not getting treatment with

:32:21.:32:22.

greater need. Thank you very much, keep those

:32:23.:32:25.

e-mails coming. Diagnosed with autism at 45 -

:32:26.:32:27.

we'll talk to a woman who struggled with the condition for most

:32:28.:32:31.

of her life, without knowing why. And the young girls shaping

:32:32.:32:34.

the future of cyber Find out how their codebreaking

:32:35.:32:36.

skills are impressing the GCHQ The President of the European

:32:37.:32:39.

Council, Donald Tusk, has been outlining how the EU

:32:40.:33:00.

intends to carry out Speaking in Malta, he warned

:33:01.:33:02.

the talks will be 'complex and sometimes confrontational'

:33:03.:33:15.

and he said negotiations on future trade relations can only begin

:33:16.:33:17.

after 'sufficient progress' has been made on disentangling

:33:18.:33:19.

Britain from its 44-year Once and only once we have

:33:20.:33:21.

achieved sufficient progress on the withdrawal can we discuss

:33:22.:33:24.

the framework of our Starting parallel talks

:33:25.:33:31.

on all issues at the same time, as suggested by some in the UK,

:33:32.:33:36.

will not happen. The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

:33:37.:33:51.

has been giving his reaction. The UK's commitment to the defence

:33:52.:33:56.

and security of this region of Europe is unconditional, and it is

:33:57.:34:02.

not some bargaining chip in any negotiations that may be taking

:34:03.:34:07.

place elsewhere in this capital. We may can unconditional commitment to

:34:08.:34:10.

the defence, to the security of Europe, because we profoundly

:34:11.:34:14.

believe it's in the interests of stability and prosperity of the

:34:15.:34:15.

whole transatlantic area. Waiting times will be longer

:34:16.:34:17.

for routine operations, such as hip and knee replacements,

:34:18.:34:19.

as a trade-off for improvements in A performance and better

:34:20.:34:22.

treatment in other areas. That's according to the Head of NHS

:34:23.:34:25.

England, Simon Stevens, who is unveiling a strategy

:34:26.:34:27.

for the NHS over the next two years. He says increasing patient demand

:34:28.:34:30.

and the growth in new treatments MPs say it's unacceptable that

:34:31.:34:33.

residents who pay their own fees at care homes in England are charged

:34:34.:34:41.

on average 43% more than those The Communities and Local Government

:34:42.:34:44.

Committee blames a lack of funding, which it says is threatening

:34:45.:34:50.

the viability of adult The Government says it's already

:34:51.:34:52.

given councils an extra ?2 billion. Hotels, restaurants and tourist

:34:53.:35:00.

attractions have warned ministers of the possible consequences

:35:01.:35:02.

of restricting the movement The British Hospitality Association

:35:03.:35:04.

predicts a shortfall of 60,000 workers a year if immigration

:35:05.:35:13.

is limited from the EU. The Government says it will design

:35:14.:35:16.

a new immigration system China is closing almost half

:35:17.:35:18.

of its official ivory carving factories and shops today,

:35:19.:35:25.

with the rest due to close The news has been welcomed

:35:26.:35:27.

by conservationists in their ongoing battle against the illegal

:35:28.:35:33.

trade in ivory. Despite a global ban

:35:34.:35:35.

on international sales, a surge in demand has resulted

:35:36.:35:37.

in the deaths of tens of thousands of African

:35:38.:35:39.

elephants in recent years. That's a summary of the latest

:35:40.:35:41.

news, join me for BBC Lots of your comments still coming

:35:42.:35:55.

in about the NHS and those delays which are going to occur to routine

:35:56.:35:59.

operations. An e-mail from Linda, I was diagnosed with severe arthritis

:36:00.:36:04.

in both knees almost 15 months ago, I am in constant pain and still

:36:05.:36:08.

waiting. I will be 70 in June and have been paying income tax and

:36:09.:36:12.

national insurance since I was 15, I have owned the rights to better

:36:13.:36:17.

treatment. Instead I get the feeling it is my fault for living so long.

:36:18.:36:19.

Kathy says, waiting times could be met if

:36:20.:36:34.

patients who are not accident or emergency were diverted to their GP.

:36:35.:36:36.

Blocked beds are due to closing down care of the elderly which allowed

:36:37.:36:39.

people to be discharged and allow rehab to take place.

:36:40.:36:41.

Let's get some sport now with Jessica.

:36:42.:36:41.

Manchester City's women are through to the semi-finals

:36:42.:36:43.

of the Champions League after beating Fortuna Hjorring.

:36:44.:36:45.

Lucy Bronze headed home the only goal of the match.

:36:46.:36:48.

It followed their 1-0 victory over the Danish side in the first leg.

:36:49.:36:51.

Big match up next in the last four, reigning champions Lyon.

:36:52.:36:53.

Johanna Konta's incredible run continues.

:36:54.:36:57.

She beat Venus Williams in straight sets overnight to reach

:36:58.:36:59.

Amazing to think she was just six years old when Venus won this

:37:00.:37:07.

Konta will play Caroline Wozniacki in the final.

:37:08.:37:11.

England's Charley Hull is in contention at the first

:37:12.:37:13.

She was 2-under-par through seven holes before high winds

:37:14.:37:19.

stopped play at the ANA Inspiration in California.

:37:20.:37:21.

Shot of the day though came from South Korean teenage

:37:22.:37:24.

She made a hole-in-one at the fifth.

:37:25.:37:32.

And world number one Mark Selby is into the quarter-finals

:37:33.:37:34.

The defending champion edged out a tense final frame decider

:37:35.:37:38.

Judd Trump and Ding Junhui are also through.

:37:39.:37:47.

That is all the sport for now, I will see you soon.

:37:48.:37:52.

Laura James was 45 with four kids, a loving husband and great career

:37:53.:37:55.

when a surprise diagnosis changed her life.

:37:56.:37:58.

She was told she had autism, and suddenly she felt she had

:37:59.:38:01.

answers after spending years, as she describes it,

:38:02.:38:03.

"trying to hide her weirdness from others."

:38:04.:38:06.

From rigid routines like lining up nail polishes in order of colour

:38:07.:38:09.

to struggling with bright lights, many things Laura had come

:38:10.:38:11.

to think of as normal were suddenly explained.

:38:12.:38:15.

And now she's written about her diagnosis in a new book.

:38:16.:38:27.

alongside Tom Purser from the National Autistic Society.

:38:28.:38:32.

Do you think, saying you were spending years covering your

:38:33.:38:38.

weirdness, did you have an inkling? No, I was unbelievably surprised

:38:39.:38:42.

when autism was diagnosed. I had spent so long trying to work out why

:38:43.:38:45.

I was different, wondered whether I had a mental health problem, it was

:38:46.:38:50.

because I was adopted, I wandered all sorts of things, but eventually

:38:51.:38:55.

life takes over and work happens, kids happen, so I just worked hard

:38:56.:39:00.

every day to try and appear to be nearer typical, really. I read that

:39:01.:39:07.

you found life generally confusing? I think I had to work three times as

:39:08.:39:16.

hard to get through the day as neurotypical people. I didn't

:39:17.:39:18.

understand what people meant when they were not clear about what they

:39:19.:39:23.

were saying, so vague things that happen, when people say, we might do

:39:24.:39:26.

that on Wednesday but we might not, I find that incredibly, incredibly

:39:27.:39:30.

hard to get my head around. Or just other things like having to do

:39:31.:39:35.

boring things like go round the supermarket, it always left me

:39:36.:39:38.

feeling utterly exhausted and completely confused. I was so

:39:39.:39:42.

confused by the sheer array of choice, looking at washing powder,

:39:43.:39:47.

hundreds of them, it overwhelms me. Something like doing the weekly

:39:48.:39:50.

shopping would just completely take it out of me and make me feel

:39:51.:39:54.

utterly overwhelmed and confused, and as if I was failing because

:39:55.:39:58.

surely that is a simple thing everyone can do easily. And things

:39:59.:40:02.

like scenes of socks would come out and feel very prominent to you? Yes,

:40:03.:40:07.

I have a think about clothing, I have to wear very comfortable

:40:08.:40:10.

clothes otherwise I cannot concentrate on anything other than

:40:11.:40:12.

the irritation the clothing is causing. As he said, on the outside,

:40:13.:40:20.

married, four kids, successful career, were people surprised when

:40:21.:40:24.

you got the diagnosis, for example your husband? I think he was

:40:25.:40:27.

initially surprised, lots of people in my life were as well, but I think

:40:28.:40:32.

that is because, lots of people are aware of autism now but we don't all

:40:33.:40:35.

understand what it means. I thought it was very much the stereotype, the

:40:36.:40:42.

boy with his trains, it did not occur to me someone who is a

:40:43.:40:45.

journalist, who communicates for a living, could possibly be autistic

:40:46.:40:50.

but once I started meeting of the autistic women online, reading more

:40:51.:40:53.

about it, it was just so obviously me, as if they had written a

:40:54.:40:57.

description of me, and I think my husband came to terms with it after

:40:58.:41:00.

he read more about it as well. You wrote that it was like -- he broke

:41:01.:41:07.

that it was like coming on the same first aid for 20 years, constantly

:41:08.:41:11.

getting to know you. Yes, he says that, I think I am very easy to

:41:12.:41:16.

know, but because I'm not a neurotypical person and most people

:41:17.:41:20.

are used to neurotypical people, I think he finds me a bit confusing.

:41:21.:41:25.

Like what? I don't really know! And he is not here to answer the

:41:26.:41:29.

question! It was a line that I wrote in the Telegraph a couple of years

:41:30.:41:33.

ago and people keep asking me, and I keep asking him, and he said he

:41:34.:41:37.

can't put his finger on it, but I think we should make him answer the

:41:38.:41:41.

question! You also talked about school being a confusing time for

:41:42.:41:45.

you, trying to understand how to behave as a girl? Yes, I found other

:41:46.:41:51.

girls really confusing because there were all of these unwritten rules,

:41:52.:41:54.

they would be really nice to one person, then she would wander off

:41:55.:41:57.

and they would be really mean about her, and I just couldn't get my head

:41:58.:42:02.

around that sort of thing, I didn't understand the games girls wanted to

:42:03.:42:06.

play, I am not competitive so I didn't understand wanting to win, I

:42:07.:42:10.

didn't get the sporty girls. I couldn't understand wanting to play

:42:11.:42:13.

with dolls or make-believe because it seemed really bizarre because it

:42:14.:42:24.

is not the real world, so I didn't want to do that, and I couldn't

:42:25.:42:27.

understand why everybody in the playground wasn't sitting in the

:42:28.:42:29.

corner reading a book, like I was. Did you feel isolated grubbing up? I

:42:30.:42:32.

did, but I am self-contained so I did not feel it in a hurtful way but

:42:33.:42:35.

I know other autistic women struggle with that, feeling that they wanted

:42:36.:42:38.

to belong. It was less important to me. When people were bullying at

:42:39.:42:43.

school, if it was scary and I thought they might punch me then it

:42:44.:42:46.

was a big deal, but if they were just being mean to me I was lucky

:42:47.:42:50.

that somehow, I could know if it is autism or a personality thing, but

:42:51.:42:56.

somehow I was quite protected from that, I just wanted to be away from

:42:57.:42:59.

them. You said you always had your head in books when you were growing

:43:00.:43:02.

up but you'd used an interesting author to learn about human

:43:03.:43:06.

behaviour? Jilly Cooper is my favourite author, I adored her, she

:43:07.:43:10.

is the first person I ever interviewed, which was awesome, but

:43:11.:43:13.

I genuinely believed her books were a handbook for life! What did you

:43:14.:43:20.

think we were all doingLAUGHTER. Did you find it helps to understand

:43:21.:43:25.

people's behaviour better? She is a brilliant writer, if you read her

:43:26.:43:29.

work you learn an awful lot. I learned about poetry from reading

:43:30.:43:34.

her book, a book about a TV station, and one of the presenters was making

:43:35.:43:39.

the documentary and I learned so much about poetry, she sparked a

:43:40.:43:43.

real passion, but I also learned about human behaviour and

:43:44.:43:46.

relationships, but I think it was confusing because obviously they are

:43:47.:43:49.

not balls and they are grown-ups. My 14-year-old self thought that

:43:50.:43:57.

someone would come in on a horse to rescue me! -- obviously they are

:43:58.:44:04.

novels. You have written about meltdowns that you had and it was

:44:05.:44:07.

actually one of those meltdowns that was in some way what led to the

:44:08.:44:14.

diagnosis? Yes, I have a genetic condition called Ehlers-Danlos

:44:15.:44:17.

syndrome which often occurs with autism, it is starting to be seen,

:44:18.:44:22.

and I was having tests for that and the tests were really quite invasive

:44:23.:44:26.

and difficult and it was the hottest day of the year in London, I

:44:27.:44:30.

couldn't eat for 24 hours before the tests. I went to my room and it was

:44:31.:44:33.

really claustrophobic, there was meant to be a tuna sandwich, the

:44:34.:44:38.

famous tuna sandwich, waiting for me because I had not eaten for so long

:44:39.:44:46.

and it was very bright, there was a child crying, it was just an massive

:44:47.:44:49.

sensory overload and I had an epic meltdown and burst into tears and

:44:50.:44:54.

kind of got, needed to get out, so I announced to the nurse that I was

:44:55.:44:58.

leaving and she said, we should have sorted it out, I'm so sorry, we see

:44:59.:45:02.

a lot of autistic people here and this is not good enough, we should

:45:03.:45:06.

make it better. I thought it was like that thing where you go into

:45:07.:45:09.

hospital and they mistake you for someone else, so I just left it and

:45:10.:45:13.

had the tuna sandwich when it arrived, but I had to stay overnight

:45:14.:45:18.

so I started googling, as you do, googling autism and there were a few

:45:19.:45:21.

things that sort of raised flags with me, but I googled autistic

:45:22.:45:31.

women and it was like finding myself, every description was so me,

:45:32.:45:33.

and I found some online groups on Facebook and talked to some women,

:45:34.:45:36.

and it became completely apparent that was the case with me. Lots of

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them have Ehlers-Danlos syndrome as well and our experiences were so

:45:40.:45:40.

similar. Tom, how unusual is it for a woman

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to get to her mid-40s before being diagnosed with autism? Not that

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unusual, at the National Autistic Society we have more women coming to

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us, and, like Laura said, finding each other online sharing

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experiences, because many are coming to diagnose this very late in life.

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Partly that is because of an increase in awareness in autism, an

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increase in the ability of diagnostic services but also because

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women tend to have been missed at a younger age and have tended to be...

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Have been misdiagnosed with other things throughout their lives as

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well. Is it a case that women may be better at masking it than men? There

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is still a lot of research needs to be done around women and their

:46:32.:46:35.

experiences, we know the experiences of autistic women and girls are

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different to those of boys and men. That masking element and that

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learning some of the social rules from sources like the novels of

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Jilly Cooper, for example, it is a perfect example of what girls are

:46:49.:46:57.

good at, perhaps Bob serving some of the social rules and being able to

:46:58.:47:00.

mimic them, masking their behaviours and learning to hide them. The

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impact of that can be huge for women and girls because they are trying to

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keep it inside, trying to fit in and they don't necessarily understand

:47:08.:47:10.

why they feel different to others and why it can be so challenging.

:47:11.:47:16.

How has the diagnosis helped you, your relationship with your husband

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and children? Has it changed anything? It has changed me because

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I always felt that I was failing, now I don't any more. I felt like a

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failing your typical woman, now I feel like a successful autistic

:47:31.:47:38.

woman. We are all quite eccentric so I think we all muddle along, my

:47:39.:47:43.

children, but I think it has helped my husband understands me, I can be

:47:44.:47:47.

difficult at times and I think it has given him a reason, he can pin a

:47:48.:47:52.

reason onto why I behave sometimes and it has made it easier for him.

:47:53.:47:58.

He realises that if I seem for not engaged, it is not to do with him

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but it is because I am in my head. Thank you ever so much for coming

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in, it has been lovely to meet you both, Laura and Tom.

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Laura's book, Odd Girl Out, is out next Thursday.

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Lots of comments on the NHS, Valerie says I returned home and choose stay

:48:13.:48:19.

from a six-week period in hospital with a badly broken leg. I am

:48:20.:48:23.

receiving carers three times a week. My observation of the system is as

:48:24.:48:28.

follows. Excellent medical care, very kind staff, cleanliness and

:48:29.:48:34.

sufficient medication. But a lack of consistency, a lack of

:48:35.:48:38.

communication, a lack of quarter nation, inefficiency, poor

:48:39.:48:41.

management skills, weaker language skills, constant monitoring to catch

:48:42.:48:45.

people out, no praise when the job is done well. It is a clear maxim

:48:46.:48:51.

that you need to say well done ten times to make one criticism

:48:52.:48:54.

effectively otherwise resentment and a lack of involvement quickly set

:48:55.:49:00.

in. Please keep your comments coming in.

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From Spooks to James Bond, we're fascinated by the secret world

:49:02.:49:03.

Well, GCHQ, the Government's electronic intelligence unit,

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is now on the look-out for staff in the real world.

:49:07.:49:09.

They're encouraging more women to consider a career in cyber

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security and recently held a code-cracking competition

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Out of the 8000 who entered, it was a team of three girls

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from Lancaster Girls Grammar School who won the coveted prize.

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And here they are now - Evie Smith, Lauren McHugh

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and Emily Shackleton, along with their teacher

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Gareth Hamilton, and Nicola Hudson from the National Cyber Security

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-- along with their teacher, Gareth Hamilton. And then we will speak to

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the people involved in the competition as well. Explain what

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you had to do? To begin with, and online round of the competition

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involving solving lots of different puzzles. I think we all really

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enjoyed that because we got to see your progress as we were doing that.

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Once we got through to the final it came -- we came down to London on

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Monday to participate with nine other schools, where we had to

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discover different clues about the hacker of a fictional school

:50:10.:50:14.

website. A few puzzles, I think you slightly underplay it. What were

:50:15.:50:21.

they? Four categories in cryptography, logic and coding,

:50:22.:50:26.

cyber security and networking. What is cryptography? Ciphers and codes.

:50:27.:50:32.

I don't understand any of this. You got through that and got down to

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London, and in London, are you nervous or worried at this point? I

:50:37.:50:42.

think we were slightly nervous but thought we would do our best and see

:50:43.:50:48.

how it went. What did you had to do? Find out who had hacked this school

:50:49.:50:54.

website. Find out and details about them, their phone number, their

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address. How do you go about that? Where do you start? First of all we

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looked at the page for the normal school website. Then we looked at

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the hacked page left there by the hacker. We looked at things like the

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source code and the hackers' Twitter, try to make connections

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between the hacker and their personal Twitter account. We looked

:51:19.:51:23.

at some of the details like the domain name of the website and how

:51:24.:51:27.

it had been registered, that told us things. Do you learn this all at

:51:28.:51:32.

school or outside of school? We learned parts of it at school, but

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the competition was a lot harder than what we were used to, we were

:51:37.:51:41.

learning as we went along. Gareth Hamilton is head of computing from

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Lancaster Girls Grammar School. You must be very proud, they are

:51:48.:51:52.

slightly underplaying... Yes, as a teacher this is the stuff of dreams.

:51:53.:52:00.

It is important to get young people into coding, especially girls? They

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are massively underrepresented in the UK workforce at the moment, and

:52:05.:52:09.

in places like GCHQ, so place is putting the subject area on the map

:52:10.:52:15.

are important with. Nicola works for the National Cyber Security Centre,

:52:16.:52:20.

party GCHQ. Good that you are a woman, promoting this. Are there

:52:21.:52:26.

many other women in this field? 10% of the workforce, the global

:52:27.:52:30.

workforce are women, that is a massive, massive issue for as

:52:31.:52:34.

collectively. Within the National Cyber Security Centre about a third

:52:35.:52:38.

of the workforce are women, about half of the senior management team

:52:39.:52:43.

are women, we are making strides. But the port in thing is what the

:52:44.:52:48.

talent pipeline looks like not just the now Buttin

:52:49.:52:59.

two, five or ten years, it is a massively growing sector, the stakes

:53:00.:53:03.

are really high and if we don't have that diverse workforce and young

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girls and women with a completely different skill set, we will not be

:53:06.:53:08.

doing the best possible job that we can. It is an enormous achievement,

:53:09.:53:15.

8500 girls doing it and the final with the three of them, big

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congratulations to them and everybody who took part. As EV said,

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this is not just about a project they did at school, it took a bit of

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oomph, and we will work on this in our spare time -- as Evie said. This

:53:29.:53:34.

is girls are showing an interest in cyber security where people really

:53:35.:53:40.

think boy thing, it is not, these girls have shown it really is not.

:53:41.:53:44.

How long did it take you to crack it? We spent some time on the online

:53:45.:53:49.

round, that took about a week of our time, not solid but, you know... You

:53:50.:53:58.

slept and ate a bit! And the final, nine o'clock to five o'clock with a

:53:59.:54:04.

break for lunch. It took us time to work out what to do at the

:54:05.:54:08.

beginning, but it is that moment of revelation when you realise what you

:54:09.:54:14.

need to do, it is very satisfying. Coding is a big thing, I am of two

:54:15.:54:18.

young girls and so many parents are saying it is really important we get

:54:19.:54:25.

the kids into coding. Why? We all use technology very heavily, but

:54:26.:54:29.

very few of us understand how it works. We need the next generation

:54:30.:54:36.

to understand it so they can keep producing the technology and we can

:54:37.:54:40.

keep using it. When you are teaching, do you get the sense that

:54:41.:54:44.

girls are put off because they see it as something that boys do? To

:54:45.:54:53.

some degree. But I think it is changing. If you are looking at the

:54:54.:54:58.

uptake that we have had over the last few years, definitely computing

:54:59.:55:02.

has been a more popular choice, I think it is changing. You talked

:55:03.:55:08.

about diversity, it is not just girls, you need a mixture of people

:55:09.:55:14.

from across society? Exactly, it is critical, when you look at some of

:55:15.:55:17.

these really complex problems it is how you look at them and the

:55:18.:55:21.

different ways that you look to try to solve those. What was really

:55:22.:55:26.

noticeable about the event on Monday was that out of those ten teams with

:55:27.:55:30.

the same problem, they were coming up with different answers because

:55:31.:55:34.

they were looking at it from different perspectives, which is

:55:35.:55:38.

key. One of the things we were really looking at and judging the

:55:39.:55:40.

teams aren't is teamwork, collaboration and how they work

:55:41.:55:54.

together to draw out each individual strengths, they had that in spades,

:55:55.:55:56.

it was brilliant. Congratulations, Ayew interested in a career in this?

:55:57.:55:59.

I think. Definitely taking it for a level, we will see how it goes.

:56:00.:56:05.

We have had lots of e-mails of people getting into a judge with

:56:06.:56:08.

their stories waiting for hospital operations. Pauline, I suffered a

:56:09.:56:14.

stroke in 2015, luckily it only affected my speech. Three months

:56:15.:56:18.

later I started having difficulty eating and swallowing. I was

:56:19.:56:21.

referred to hospital after various tests which showed that I had a

:56:22.:56:26.

small raised bump which constantly gave me a feeling of something being

:56:27.:56:30.

stuck. I went for the consultation in February and told there was no

:56:31.:56:35.

funding. I could wait for the new financial year and start again. I

:56:36.:56:39.

agreed and went back in May but it might not go ahead then.

:56:40.:56:44.

The boss of NHS England, Simon Stevens, will shortly outline his

:56:45.:56:47.

blueprint for the health service waiting times. Let's get more from

:56:48.:56:52.

our health editor Hugh Pym. We know the highlights,

:56:53.:57:06.

some people are unhappy, routine operations likely to be delayed

:57:07.:57:10.

further, but more money for A and cancer services? That's right, we

:57:11.:57:12.

will get the speech in a few minutes in the Aldershot Centre for health

:57:13.:57:15.

behind me. We are here because Simon Stevens wants to make the point that

:57:16.:57:17.

centres like this could help activity in the community away from

:57:18.:57:20.

hospitals, it is one of the largest of its kind in the country, they

:57:21.:57:24.

have scans, pharmacists as well as GP services. More investment in this

:57:25.:57:27.

sort of facility and he says you won't have to refer so many to

:57:28.:57:32.

hospital. But as you have heard, he has conceded that waiting lists will

:57:33.:57:36.

have to rise routine surgery, which is not popular with those affected

:57:37.:57:42.

by it. You will also talk about how generally community care can be

:57:43.:57:45.

enhanced by health and social care around England.

:57:46.:57:52.

Thank you, Hugh We will be bringing you live coverage of that year. Lots

:57:53.:57:57.

of you have been keeping into edge throughout the morning with your

:57:58.:58:01.

experiences of those delays. Delays to routine operations. It is a

:58:02.:58:06.

concern to many, but as we said earlier there will be improvements

:58:07.:58:11.

to mental health services and also A and cancer services. We will

:58:12.:58:14.

continue with the coverage on the NHS story in Bbc Newsroom Live

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