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Hello, it's Monday, it's nine o'clock. | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
Police investigating a violent attack on a teenage asylum-seeker | :00:08. | :00:13. | |
in south London release images of three people | :00:14. | :00:15. | |
We'll have the latest from the scene. | :00:16. | :00:20. | |
We have a special report on the financial challenges faced | :00:21. | :00:22. | |
by young people when they leave the care system at 18. | :00:23. | :00:26. | |
"That's it, we no longer need to be in contact with you, | :00:27. | :00:29. | |
you've now hit that age where you can live by yourself | :00:30. | :00:32. | |
independently, and there you go, off you go into | :00:33. | :00:39. | |
and there was not much preparation for that. | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
And will your child's nursery be one of those which says it can't offer | :00:44. | :00:46. | |
30 hours of free childcare because it's too expensive? | :00:47. | :00:48. | |
on how the new system for nurseries in England will work. | :00:49. | :01:02. | |
Hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am. | :01:03. | :01:11. | |
Showed profits from the so-called tampon tax go to an anti-abortion | :01:12. | :01:17. | |
group? The group says it is providing essential housing support | :01:18. | :01:20. | |
for women who decide to keep their babies, but the MP who champion the | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
scheme says they should have to give the grand back, let us know what you | :01:25. | :01:26. | |
think about that. Our top story today, | :01:27. | :01:33. | |
detectives investigating an attack on a teenage asylum-seeker | :01:34. | :01:37. | |
which left him seriously injured have released images of three people | :01:38. | :01:39. | |
they want to question. The two men and a woman | :01:40. | :01:41. | |
are being sought about the attack on the 17-year-old boy at Croydon | :01:42. | :01:44. | |
in south London on Friday night. Anisa Kadri is following | :01:45. | :01:47. | |
the story for us. What is the latest? Well, eight | :01:48. | :01:56. | |
people are actually in Kas today now, police are questioning them on | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
suspicion of attempted murder, and as you mention, three images have | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
been released this morning by police, people they want to speak | :02:07. | :02:13. | |
to. Police believe up to 20 people could have been involved. As for the | :02:14. | :02:19. | |
victim, 17 years old, Kurdish-Iranian, police are treating | :02:20. | :02:22. | |
it as a suspected hate crime, they believe his race was integral to the | :02:23. | :02:30. | |
reason that he was attacked. And a... They are treating this, as I | :02:31. | :02:34. | |
say, as a hate crime. He is said to be in a serious but stable condition | :02:35. | :02:39. | |
at the receiving repeated kicks and punches and sustaining serious head | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
injuries. Tell us more about what has been police together about the | :02:44. | :02:49. | |
attack. -- pieced together. On Friday night, this victim was | :02:50. | :02:52. | |
waiting at a bus stop in Croydon with friends when a group is said to | :02:53. | :02:56. | |
have come up to him, and police say they ask them, you know, where are | :02:57. | :03:00. | |
you from? It was then that he said he was an asylum seeker, and they | :03:01. | :03:06. | |
chased him down the street and began kicking him, punching him. Many | :03:07. | :03:13. | |
people saw this happen, some alerted 999, and the victim was left lying | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
there, and it was at that point, of course, that the emergency services | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
got involved and realised that this needed to be, you know, attended to, | :03:24. | :03:25. | |
so to speak. Anisa, thank you. Annita is in the BBC | :03:26. | :03:32. | |
newsroom with a summary Donald Trump has warned that the US | :03:33. | :03:34. | |
will solve the North Korean nuclear In an interview with | :03:35. | :03:39. | |
the Financial Times, "If China is not going to solve | :03:40. | :03:41. | |
North Korea, we will." Mr Trump confirmed he was referring | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
to direct unilateral action. The comments come ahead | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
of a visit to the US Significant restrictions on the use | :03:53. | :03:54. | |
of bail by police in England The amount of time a suspect | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
released from custody can remain on bail will be limited to 28 days | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
in most cases. The decision is in response | :04:05. | :04:07. | |
to concerns that people were being left in limbo for months | :04:08. | :04:09. | |
or even years. as our home affairs correspondent | :04:10. | :04:12. | |
June Kelly reports. Famous faces who've been under | :04:13. | :04:18. | |
police investigation, finally told they wouldn't | :04:19. | :04:20. | |
be facing charges, They were among the 5000 | :04:21. | :04:22. | |
still on bail after a year. The Government says the system | :04:23. | :04:29. | |
needed rebalancing. Well, what's happened in the past | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
is people could be put on bail with no end in sight and no check | :04:34. | :04:36. | |
or balance, which means we had thousands of people could be on bail | :04:37. | :04:40. | |
for 12 months or more. In fact, there were examples | :04:41. | :04:43. | |
of people on for several years, We've got to make sure | :04:44. | :04:45. | |
we've got a proper system that It's part of an overhaul of the | :04:46. | :04:51. | |
bail system in England and Wales. From now on, some suspects won't be | :04:52. | :04:55. | |
subject to police bail at all. For those who are bailed, in most | :04:56. | :04:58. | |
cases, the limit will be 28 days. But a senior police officer | :04:59. | :05:05. | |
will be able to grant one three-month extension | :05:06. | :05:07. | |
in complex cases. The police will have to seek | :05:08. | :05:08. | |
the permission of a magistrate The Police Federation, which | :05:09. | :05:11. | |
represents rank-and-file officers, 28 days, in the cycle | :05:12. | :05:14. | |
of a police officer, is not a long time for to | :05:15. | :05:24. | |
investigating a crime. You've also got to bear in mind, | :05:25. | :05:26. | |
in relation to external inquiries, what we tend to have is external | :05:27. | :05:29. | |
resource, so we have got the Forensic Science Service, CPS, | :05:30. | :05:32. | |
and 28 days is not realistic for them to come back to us | :05:33. | :05:35. | |
with the information The Police Federation said | :05:36. | :05:37. | |
the old system protected complainants and victims and helped | :05:38. | :05:40. | |
prevent further offending. Europe is becoming the global hub | :05:41. | :05:42. | |
for the hosting of child sexual abuse images and videos, | :05:43. | :05:50. | |
according to a new report. The Internet Watch Foundation found | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
that 60% of worldwide abuse material was now in Europe, | :05:54. | :05:56. | |
an increase of 19%. of European nations | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
hosting the illegal content. Improved reporting and policing | :06:02. | :06:06. | |
in North America are believed | :06:07. | :06:08. | |
to have driven the shift. The Spanish Foreign Minister has | :06:09. | :06:18. | |
said there is no need to lose tempers over Gibraltar. He was | :06:19. | :06:22. | |
speaking after the chief minister of Gibraltar insisted that the | :06:23. | :06:25. | |
territory would be used as a bargaining chip in negotiations over | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
Britain's exit from the European Union. | :06:29. | :06:35. | |
The EU's guidelines on the Brexit talks suggest that Spain over | :06:36. | :06:38. | |
which claims overeignty over the Gibraltar, might be able | :06:39. | :06:40. | |
to veto decisions that affect the territory. | :06:41. | :06:42. | |
But yesterday, Theresa May assured the people of Gibraltar | :06:43. | :06:44. | |
that her government remained committed to them, | :06:45. | :06:46. | |
and that the sovereignty of the Rock was not up for grabs. | :06:47. | :06:49. | |
Tom Burridge is at the Gibraltar border with Spain this morning | :06:50. | :06:51. | |
you can probably make out a flow of traffic, | :06:52. | :07:01. | |
a lot of people walking out of southern Spain into Gibraltar, | :07:02. | :07:05. | |
because thousands of people work, sorry, live over that side | :07:06. | :07:09. | |
The free movement of people is guaranteed because Gibraltar | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
and Britain are members of the European single market. | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
Now, when Britain comes to negotiate its Brexit deal | :07:18. | :07:23. | |
with the rest of the European Union, in theory now, according | :07:24. | :07:26. | |
to the European Union, Spain will have a say | :07:27. | :07:29. | |
on whether the deal can apply to Gibraltar or not. | :07:30. | :07:34. | |
And what is possible is that Spain might say that, actually, | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
aspects of any deal can't apply to Gibraltar, and it might do | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
so on economic grounds, because Spain has always complained | :07:42. | :07:43. | |
that taxes are much lower on this side of the border | :07:44. | :07:46. | |
Of course, Britain and Gibraltar putting on a united front, | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
saying any deal for Britain is a deal for Gibraltar, | :07:51. | :07:53. | |
take it or leave it, that is the kind of poker game we are in. | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
Rescue teams in Colombia are continuing to search | :07:58. | :07:59. | |
through tonnes of mud and debris for anyone who might have survived | :08:00. | :08:02. | |
the devastating mudslides in the south of the country. | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
In the last few hours, the president has said 254 people | :08:06. | :08:08. | |
are known to have died, 43 of them children. | :08:09. | :08:10. | |
The mudslide engulfed the town of Mocoa, | :08:11. | :08:17. | |
Hopes of finding anyone alive in the debris are fading. | :08:18. | :08:31. | |
The political parties in Northern Ireland will begin | :08:32. | :08:33. | |
fresh talks today at Stormont aimed at restoring | :08:34. | :08:35. | |
Power-sharing collapsed in January because of a row between Sinn Fein | :08:36. | :08:38. | |
and the Democratic Unionists about a botched green energy scheme. | :08:39. | :08:41. | |
Last week, a deadline to form a new administration | :08:42. | :08:43. | |
Police are looking for a dog on the loose in Bolton after armed police | :08:44. | :08:56. | |
shot dead two pit bull type dogs after an attack on a man and a woman | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
in a street. Police were told five dogs were out of control. A woman | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
was bitten on the hand, a man suffered injuries to his legs. Two | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
dogs were captured, a fifth managed to escape. Police are warning people | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
to be on the lookout for a large dog with short hair and of a muscular | :09:14. | :09:17. | |
build. That is a summary of the latest BBC News. | :09:18. | :09:21. | |
In a few moments, a special report on the financial challenges faced by | :09:22. | :09:27. | |
young people when they leave care at the age of 18. Caroline has tweeted | :09:28. | :09:30. | |
to say, I am really pleased to see this as being featured by the | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
programme, and Natalie says, so glad councils are offering more support. | :09:35. | :09:39. | |
There are calls for council tax to be waived for care leavers, and some | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
are doing it, but not all. Let's get some sport | :09:44. | :09:50. | |
with Hugh Woozencroft. And we start with a rather | :09:51. | :09:52. | |
incredible story in golf. I still can't decide | :09:53. | :09:54. | |
whether this story is the good or bad side of sport, | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
because I'm pedantic, and if a player breaks | :09:58. | :09:59. | |
the rules in a sport, then does it really matter | :10:00. | :10:02. | |
who has pointed it out? OK, maybe I'm being harsh, | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
because Lexi Thompson, the American golfer, | :10:06. | :10:07. | |
must be heartbroken after an eagle-eyed television | :10:08. | :10:10. | |
viewer called in to say they'd spotted | :10:11. | :10:12. | |
an infringement. But the heartbreak will be | :10:13. | :10:18. | |
even harder to take because it was the first women's | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
golf major of the year, Thompson held a two-shot lead | :10:23. | :10:25. | |
in the tournament when she was told. She only found out with six holes | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
to play, and the infringement happened a full | :10:30. | :10:32. | |
24 hours beforehand. She was left in tears | :10:33. | :10:35. | |
when she was approached Calling it ridiculous, she was | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
handed a four-stroke penalty, and eventually the title | :10:39. | :10:42. | |
as well in a play-off. The decision hasn't | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
gone down too well. Finally, Lexi Thompson herself | :10:46. | :11:05. | |
took to Instagram a few hours ago, saying, "Well, it was an emotional | :11:06. | :11:08. | |
day here for me, first off I do want to say what I had done was 100% | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
not intentional at all, I played amazing today, probably the | :11:13. | :11:24. | |
best I have played all week. I wasn't expecting that on whatever | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
hole it was, I did not intentionally do that. So to the officials or | :11:29. | :11:32. | |
whoever called in, that was not my purpose. I didn't realise I did | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
that. But you know, I fought hard coming in, I didn't give up, I knew | :11:39. | :11:44. | |
I could still win. But so many players played great, | :11:45. | :11:48. | |
congratulations micro. Rather understandably upset. | :11:49. | :11:49. | |
The LPGA have defended their decision, one official said | :11:50. | :11:51. | |
she wouldn't have been able to sleep if she'd have let it slide. | :11:52. | :11:54. | |
But it does beg the questions what if they'd have noticed | :11:55. | :11:57. | |
Would they have taken victory away from the 22-year-old? | :11:58. | :12:02. | |
What did she actually do? Well, essentially, she marked ball | :12:03. | :12:08. | |
on the 17th green in her third round with a coin, just before she was | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
going to putt. When she replaced the ball, it had moved just over to the | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
side, essentially, she didn't play from where the ball had landed, | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
which is watching as to do. She could have been looking for a better | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
lie, and that is why you get a penalty, two strokes moving the | :12:26. | :12:29. | |
ball, two for signing for the wrong score after her third round. So | :12:30. | :12:35. | |
yeah, really difficult one to take. Let's move onto tennis, Roger | :12:36. | :12:36. | |
Federer. Well, Roger Federer is defying | :12:37. | :12:38. | |
all the odds at the moment. At the age of 35, | :12:39. | :12:41. | |
he's won the Miami Open. and he's playing as well as anyone | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
in the world right now. But the body does need some | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
tender love and care at his age. He now says he'll take nearly | :12:49. | :12:51. | |
two months off and probably not play | :12:52. | :12:53. | |
again until the French Open. He beat Spain's Rafa Nadal | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
in straight sets to lift the title, 24 hours after Britain's | :13:00. | :13:01. | |
Johanna Konta won the women's event. Federer moves up to fourth | :13:02. | :13:04. | |
in the world rankings, adding Miami to big wins | :13:05. | :13:06. | |
at the Australian Open and And before we go, | :13:07. | :13:08. | |
we must mention Celtic. It may be only the first | :13:09. | :13:22. | |
week of April, but Brendan Rodgers' side | :13:23. | :13:24. | |
have clinched the Scottish Premiership | :13:25. | :13:25. | |
again, after beating which helped put them 25 points | :13:26. | :13:27. | |
clear of second-placed Aberdeen. And they're still on for | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
the domestic treble as well, so congratulations and good luck | :13:34. | :13:35. | |
to Celtic and their fans While most teenagers are living | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
at home when they turn 18, are suddenly thrust | :13:39. | :13:43. | |
into a grown-up world. They can find themselves | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
alone in a flat with all Managing money is one of the biggest | :13:48. | :13:49. | |
challenges, and a new scheme - so far adopted by 14 councils - | :13:50. | :13:54. | |
aims to help. Our reporter Ashley John-Baptiste, | :13:55. | :13:58. | |
who was himself in care, There's no ifs, buts, maybes - | :13:59. | :14:01. | |
this bill has got to be paid then. About 2000 across | :14:02. | :14:29. | |
different companies. Council tax bill's | :14:30. | :14:33. | |
really the worst one. Like thousands of kids | :14:34. | :14:44. | |
across the UK, I grew up in care. From the age of two, I lived | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
with four different foster families, and I also spent two years | :14:50. | :14:52. | |
in a care home. I remember like it was yesterday | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
the time I had to leave care When I was 18, I left care | :14:58. | :15:00. | |
and I moved into a council Really nervous, because I haven't | :15:01. | :15:11. | |
been back here for at least, say, five years, and it brings | :15:12. | :15:19. | |
back a bit of emotion. But this is the flat I moved | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
into when I left care, when I had to sort of fend | :15:25. | :15:27. | |
for myself as an adult. I can see the flat, | :15:28. | :15:30. | |
it's a bit crazy! That's the window of the flat that | :15:31. | :15:33. | |
I lived in nearly ten years ago now, that I moved into this council flat | :15:34. | :15:42. | |
at 18, as a care leaver. Back then, I felt very isolated | :15:43. | :15:46. | |
and I'm thinking, "What the heck? I've got to go and live | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
independently, by myself, And I remember the toughest weekend, | :15:51. | :15:52. | |
potentially, of my life was when I had 37p to live off | :15:53. | :15:59. | |
for a weekend, and all I could afford was an onion, | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
and I had a bit of tuna and I made I remember the first night that | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
I moved into this flat. The flat wasn't decorated, | :16:12. | :16:22. | |
and I just slept on a mattress, and I felt extremely lonely, | :16:23. | :16:32. | |
vulnerable, and unprepared It is crazy to think that, | :16:33. | :16:35. | |
at 18 years old, when friends I think I've blocked a lot | :16:36. | :16:45. | |
of that out of my head. I think so, because I remember | :16:46. | :16:59. | |
asking for your iron. You've asked for my | :17:00. | :17:03. | |
iron, Hoover, eggs. Oh, my gosh, that's | :17:04. | :17:07. | |
really embarrassing! Did you know, did you know that, | :17:08. | :17:17. | |
when I moved here, I had left care? Then, I had no idea | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
of where my life was going, and I didn't have a mum or dad, | :17:22. | :17:27. | |
and I had these bills, and I had council tax, | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
but I didn't necessarily have the means to get by, | :17:33. | :17:34. | |
so I'm very, very happy that I'm not in the position that | :17:35. | :17:37. | |
I was in when I moved here. You gave me a lot to think | :17:38. | :17:40. | |
about, actually, yeah. Because I didn't really realise half | :17:41. | :17:44. | |
of the stuff that you just told me, so I'm really proud to see that | :17:45. | :17:48. | |
you've accomplished a lot of things. I know I wasn't alone in finding it | :17:49. | :17:51. | |
difficult to leave care, Research suggests well over half | :17:52. | :18:03. | |
of care leavers struggle to pay That's why, as of this month, | :18:04. | :18:09. | |
some councils have decided to stop charging care leavers council tax | :18:10. | :18:16. | |
until they're older. In reality, only a small number | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
of care leavers will benefit. The councils that are doing this | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
hope it will ease the sudden As tough as it was, within months | :18:28. | :18:30. | |
I then went off to university, and with all the trauma | :18:31. | :18:37. | |
and difficulty that I experienced, I'm in East London today to meet | :18:38. | :18:39. | |
a care leaver who's 23, and she's really, really transparent | :18:40. | :18:46. | |
about the struggle she's having Tiffany was taken into care | :18:47. | :18:48. | |
on Christmas Eve when she was five. Growing up, she was moved 15 times, | :18:49. | :19:20. | |
all over the country. Tell me what happened | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
when you went into care? It was the most traumatising thing | :19:25. | :19:31. | |
you could be put through, I'd say, Nothing prepares you for being | :19:32. | :19:34. | |
placed in a car and put outside someone's front door, | :19:35. | :19:41. | |
and then obviously when they open They officially went, "That's it, | :19:42. | :19:43. | |
we no longer need to be in contact with you, | :19:44. | :19:50. | |
you've now hit that age where you can live by yourself | :19:51. | :19:53. | |
independently, and there you go, off you go into the | :19:54. | :19:55. | |
world," kind of thing. There was not much | :19:56. | :19:57. | |
preparation for that at all. So, no-one told you, | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
no foster parent or social worker told you about the bills and council | :20:02. | :20:04. | |
tax that you would have to pay? No, I mean obviously they pointed | :20:05. | :20:07. | |
out the obvious ones, obviously, food, gas, | :20:08. | :20:09. | |
electric, TV licence, But it was never a case of, "Oh, | :20:10. | :20:11. | |
but also, council tax." When you got your first council tax | :20:12. | :20:18. | |
bill, did you pay it? Yeah, because it was actually | :20:19. | :20:21. | |
quite a low amount, so I was like, "Yeah, | :20:22. | :20:23. | |
OK, I'll pay that." And then I thought, "Oh, right," | :20:24. | :20:26. | |
I didn't think anything of it, then the next one came | :20:27. | :20:29. | |
round and I was like, I just didn't understand | :20:30. | :20:31. | |
that they came year by year. And, you know, it | :20:32. | :20:37. | |
made no sense to me. And then obviously when I got older, | :20:38. | :20:39. | |
you know, when you watch TV more, then you work out where it actually | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
comes from, where the money goes. Because other than that you're only | :20:44. | :20:46. | |
just left with a guessing game Did you ever struggle | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
with those payments? "We're aware that you | :20:50. | :20:53. | |
couldn't make payment..." Can I have a read? | :20:54. | :21:03. | |
Do you mind? "Were you aware that we couldn't | :21:04. | :21:07. | |
make some of your payments because there were not enough | :21:08. | :21:11. | |
available funds in your account?" So you've had direct debits go | :21:12. | :21:14. | |
through that clearly haven't About 2000 across different | :21:15. | :21:16. | |
companies, so... Council tax bill's | :21:17. | :21:26. | |
probably the worst one. About ?500 now, but that's not | :21:27. | :21:28. | |
the figure it was last Well over a grand, I'd say, | :21:29. | :21:39. | |
in court fines, then obviously So yesterday I met Tiffany, | :21:40. | :21:46. | |
lovely care leaver who's doing a great job, actually, | :21:47. | :22:04. | |
in looking after her two-month-old daughter and maintaining | :22:05. | :22:06. | |
the responsibilities of her flat. The only thing, I think, | :22:07. | :22:10. | |
is that, at some point, she will have to pay off her council | :22:11. | :22:13. | |
tax there, and it's inevitable that the bailiffs will approach her, | :22:14. | :22:19. | |
and I just wonder how on earth I'm in Grimsby today to meet | :22:20. | :22:22. | |
another care leaver, Jodie. She's a student, but she does have | :22:23. | :22:26. | |
some outstanding council tax debt, and she has a few weeks to pay it | :22:27. | :22:29. | |
off before the bailiffs visit her. This is, this is my place that | :22:30. | :22:35. | |
nobody can take away from me. Jodie was taken into care | :22:36. | :22:48. | |
when she was eight, She was upset to leave, | :22:49. | :22:50. | |
but says she was also excited at the prospect | :22:51. | :22:56. | |
of being independent. See, I always hear that, I hear | :22:57. | :23:03. | |
about care leavers being quite excited about the independence | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
of being a care leaver, leaving care, and the opportunity | :23:08. | :23:09. | |
to have a flat and sort of do But, for me, I was | :23:10. | :23:12. | |
actually really scared. Because I just wanted to be | :23:13. | :23:17. | |
a normal 17, 18-year-old. I remember the first night that | :23:18. | :23:21. | |
I moved into my flat, it was almost like being put | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
in a prison cell. It was like, "This is your flat, | :23:27. | :23:29. | |
here you are," doors closed. I had nightmares for | :23:30. | :23:32. | |
the first few weeks. I'd probably become a bit | :23:33. | :23:46. | |
depressed, to be fair. Yeah, not to the extent where I had | :23:47. | :23:52. | |
to go on medication or anything, but to the extent where sometimes | :23:53. | :23:58. | |
I didn't want to get out of bed, How did you cope with the pressures | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
of being an adult - If I didn't open the post, | :24:03. | :24:06. | |
I didn't have to deal with it. Some councils have decided to scrap | :24:07. | :24:15. | |
council tax for young care leavers, some councils it's until you're 22, | :24:16. | :24:28. | |
some until you're 25, to help them Do you think this is a measure that | :24:29. | :24:31. | |
will help care leavers? Yeah, I do, because it gives them | :24:32. | :24:39. | |
the chance to adjust to life of not being in care and not having | :24:40. | :24:47. | |
the parents being a local authority that haven't had to think | :24:48. | :24:50. | |
about anything before. But some might say, why should care | :24:51. | :24:52. | |
leavers benefit from this but not I understand, I understand why | :24:53. | :24:55. | |
people might say that, but until you've walked in the shoes | :24:56. | :25:05. | |
of a care leaver, how do you know Other people that come from a normal | :25:06. | :25:08. | |
family have that, "Mum, can I just borrow 20 quid," | :25:09. | :25:15. | |
whereas other care leavers don't. There's been times where I've | :25:16. | :25:18. | |
literally had nothing in the cupboards and I've gone | :25:19. | :25:20. | |
hungry because I've had nobody Leaving home and moving | :25:21. | :25:23. | |
into your own place is a learning curve for anyone, and of course | :25:24. | :25:31. | |
no-one enjoys paying bills. But meeting other people | :25:32. | :25:33. | |
who were in care and revisiting my old flat has reminded me how abrupt | :25:34. | :25:36. | |
the transition from care So, on one hand, many care leavers | :25:37. | :25:38. | |
will benefit from this measure. Care leavers like Jodie | :25:39. | :25:51. | |
and Tiffany could certainly do without the pressure of having | :25:52. | :25:53. | |
to pay council tax when they've just But, on the other hand, | :25:54. | :25:56. | |
many people will question why should these young, | :25:57. | :26:01. | |
vulnerable care leavers benefit from this when other | :26:02. | :26:03. | |
young people don't? If you want to watch that again, you | :26:04. | :26:26. | |
can see it on our programme page. Karen texted, "I work with children | :26:27. | :26:30. | |
in care and it upsets me when we're told we can only support our care | :26:31. | :26:33. | |
leavers for a few weeks and sometimes not at all, especially | :26:34. | :26:36. | |
when we have been main key workers in the time they have spent with | :26:37. | :26:42. | |
us." Peter says, "It is an excuse for the adult to fail." Natalie | :26:43. | :26:47. | |
says, "This shows the realities and challenges many care leavers face." | :26:48. | :26:50. | |
We can now speak to Labour MP Clive Betts. | :26:51. | :26:52. | |
He's chair of the Communities and Local Government Committee | :26:53. | :26:55. | |
which has recommended that all councils exempt care leavers | :26:56. | :26:57. | |
Thank you for joining us. So far, 14 councils are doing it. Is that good | :26:58. | :27:07. | |
enough for you? Well, it isn't, but actually our recommendation was that | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
Government should bring in a national policy for care leavers. | :27:12. | :27:16. | |
So, from the age of 18 to 21, a young person leaving care wouldn't | :27:17. | :27:22. | |
have to pay council tax to help them with what has been describe as a | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
cliff-edge. One minute they are in the local authority care, the local | :27:27. | :27:28. | |
authority does everything and pays everything for them and the next | :27:29. | :27:32. | |
minute they're left by themselves with no support at all to help them. | :27:33. | :27:36. | |
So that will be one way of giving them some assistance to get back | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
into independent living. How do you answer the question that was put in | :27:41. | :27:46. | |
in Ashley's report? That it is why should care leavers benefit | :27:47. | :27:52. | |
financially with council tax exemption where other people might | :27:53. | :27:56. | |
be struggling? We understand and many people struggle financially for | :27:57. | :28:00. | |
different reasons, but when we did our report into homelessness, we | :28:01. | :28:04. | |
talked to young people who had been homeless and found that a lot of | :28:05. | :28:08. | |
young homeless people had been in care in the first place. They had | :28:09. | :28:10. | |
difficult lives and difficult experiences so talking to them, what | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
they described to us was a situation where they came out of care. Young | :28:15. | :28:20. | |
people and other circumstances may have family to support them, maybe | :28:21. | :28:24. | |
able to stay at home for a bit longer, if they leave home, they may | :28:25. | :28:27. | |
get financial support from their family. That isn't open to young | :28:28. | :28:33. | |
people in care. They are in care because they haven't got a family to | :28:34. | :28:36. | |
support emthis. It is a challenging set of circumstances and just that | :28:37. | :28:39. | |
little bit of help and it wouldn't cost us much money to say to the | :28:40. | :28:43. | |
young people who come out of care, you're coming out. You have had | :28:44. | :28:46. | |
difficult lives. Difficult experiences, you're on your own now, | :28:47. | :28:50. | |
but we'll give you that bit of helpment don't way the council tax | :28:51. | :28:55. | |
for the first three years until you're 21 and hopefully that will | :28:56. | :28:59. | |
prevent these young people getting into debt and losing their homes. | :29:00. | :29:05. | |
Does it delay the inevitable though? Putting yourself in the shoes of the | :29:06. | :29:08. | |
young people and we took evidence and talked to young people in these | :29:09. | :29:11. | |
circumstances. A lot of challenges. They're sudden from being in the | :29:12. | :29:14. | |
local authority care, from having everything done for them, they're by | :29:15. | :29:18. | |
themselves with a tiny bit of support maybe. In that situation, | :29:19. | :29:23. | |
just taking one pressure off them, one additional responsibility, one | :29:24. | :29:25. | |
bill coming through the door that they don't have to deal with, just | :29:26. | :29:29. | |
helps them adjust to a situation where eventually they will take | :29:30. | :29:32. | |
responsibility and they will pay their council tax in full. | :29:33. | :29:37. | |
And in terms of the cost of it and the impact on comes, you say it is | :29:38. | :29:42. | |
small cost... Yes. In proportion to other costs. However, it is money | :29:43. | :29:46. | |
that would have to be covered somewhere else in the budget? Of | :29:47. | :29:51. | |
course you cans it is. We call them central Government to do it and it | :29:52. | :29:55. | |
is a tiny drop in the Chancellor's resources. And in the end, if it | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
helps these young people get back into a stable life, a stable way of | :30:01. | :30:05. | |
living, once they have left care, then that actually would probably | :30:06. | :30:09. | |
mean less demand on other services, less demand for help with the debts | :30:10. | :30:13. | |
they get into and hopefully they won't get evicted and end up | :30:14. | :30:16. | |
homeless with the local authority. It could mean savings in term of the | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
pressure that they're going to put on other services to help them out | :30:21. | :30:24. | |
and I think it is just a proper and humane thing to do, to say to these | :30:25. | :30:28. | |
young people, "Look, you have had a difficult life. Here is one way | :30:29. | :30:33. | |
society can help you get back into independent living and hopefully not | :30:34. | :30:36. | |
get into the same problems that we heard many young people get into | :30:37. | :30:40. | |
once they leave care and are left to themselves with the responsibilities | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
and the bills. If there isn't the national strategy, is there anything | :30:45. | :30:48. | |
that can make councils do this? Councils can look at it and see | :30:49. | :30:53. | |
whether perhaps in their own locality and Connells are challenge | :30:54. | :30:55. | |
for resource at present. They have had 40% of the their Government | :30:56. | :30:59. | |
grant taken away since 2010, but if they can find a little bit of mub to | :31:00. | :31:03. | |
help maybe it means those young people don't become a burden and an | :31:04. | :31:08. | |
extra pressure on local services if they get into difficulties and debt | :31:09. | :31:11. | |
and find that they lose their home. So I very much welcome what you said | :31:12. | :31:15. | |
that 14 councils have decided to do this, but in then come on | :31:16. | :31:18. | |
Government, let's find this bit of money to help these young people. | :31:19. | :31:23. | |
Thank you very much. Later, we will be talking to two young people who | :31:24. | :31:26. | |
are benefiting from the new scheme. Two young care leavers and also a | :31:27. | :31:32. | |
council leader of a council that has introduced that policy. | :31:33. | :31:40. | |
Sima says, I can relate to this, I didn't know light bulbs. Thank you | :31:41. | :31:44. | |
for your comments. Still to come, we spoke to them | :31:45. | :31:47. | |
back in March about their battle to save the life of their baby boy | :31:48. | :31:50. | |
Charlie, who receives 24-hour care Half of nurseries in England say | :31:51. | :31:53. | |
they might be unable to provide the full 30 hours of free | :31:54. | :31:57. | |
childcare from September, We'll be discussing why | :31:58. | :31:59. | |
with parents and nurseries. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom | :32:00. | :32:07. | |
with a summary of today's news. Detectives investigating an attack | :32:08. | :32:14. | |
on a teenage asylum seeker, have released images of three people | :32:15. | :32:16. | |
they want to question. The two men and a woman | :32:17. | :32:20. | |
are being sought about the attack on the 17-year-old boy at Croydon | :32:21. | :32:23. | |
in south London on Friday night. Nine people have | :32:24. | :32:28. | |
already been arrested. One was later released | :32:29. | :32:30. | |
without charge. Police believe up to 20 people | :32:31. | :32:32. | |
were involved in the attack. Donald Trump has warned | :32:33. | :32:36. | |
that the US will solve the North Korean nuclear threat | :32:37. | :32:38. | |
under his leadership. In an interview | :32:39. | :32:40. | |
with the Financial Times, "If China is not going to | :32:41. | :32:43. | |
solve North Korea, we will." Mr Trump confirmed he was referring | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
to direct unilateral action. The comments come ahead of a visit | :32:49. | :32:53. | |
to the US Significant restrictions on the use | :32:54. | :32:55. | |
of bail by police in England The amount of time a suspect | :32:56. | :33:01. | |
released from custody can remain on bail will be limited | :33:02. | :33:07. | |
to 28 days in most cases. According to the Home Office, | :33:08. | :33:10. | |
the move will end the injustice of people left in limbo for months | :33:11. | :33:12. | |
or even years. the change will be unrealistic | :33:13. | :33:15. | |
in complex investigations. Spain's Foreign Minister has said | :33:16. | :33:33. | |
there is no need to lose tempers over Gibraltar. The chief minister | :33:34. | :33:36. | |
of Gibraltar had insisted it would not be used as a bargaining chip in | :33:37. | :33:40. | |
negotiations over Britain's exit from the European Union. | :33:41. | :33:43. | |
The EU's guidelines on the Brexit talks suggest that Spain, | :33:44. | :33:46. | |
which claims sovereignty over the territory, | :33:47. | :33:47. | |
could be able to veto decisions that affect it. | :33:48. | :33:50. | |
But yesterday, Theresa May assured the people of Gibraltar | :33:51. | :33:52. | |
that her government remained committed to them, | :33:53. | :33:53. | |
and that the sovereignty of the Rock was not up for grabs. | :33:54. | :33:56. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :33:57. | :33:59. | |
They won the Scottish Premiership title with room to spare, | :34:00. | :34:12. | |
Scott Sinclair's hat-trick helped them to a 5-0 win at Hearts | :34:13. | :34:15. | |
They now need the Scottish Cup title to seal a domestic treble | :34:16. | :34:19. | |
in Brendan Rodgers' first season as manager. | :34:20. | :34:22. | |
The pressure eased slightly on Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger, | :34:23. | :34:24. | |
as his side drew 2-2 with Manchester City | :34:25. | :34:29. | |
protests against him before the match | :34:30. | :34:35. | |
and Wenger insists his future will be revealed soon. | :34:36. | :34:50. | |
Lexi Thompson was punished in the ANA Inspiration golf after a viewer | :34:51. | :35:01. | |
spotted an infraction. Roger Federer has moved up to four the world after | :35:02. | :35:05. | |
winning in Miami, that is all the sport for now, back with more just | :35:06. | :35:07. | |
after ten o'clock. The parents of baby Charlie Gard, | :35:08. | :35:10. | |
who suffers from a rare genetic condition, are hoping to persuade | :35:11. | :35:13. | |
a High Court judge to let them Connie Yates and Chris Gard | :35:14. | :35:16. | |
have now raised over ?1.2 million for the treatment, | :35:17. | :35:20. | |
but UK doctors have opposed Victoria spoke to Connie Yates | :35:21. | :35:22. | |
and Chris Gard last month. It's not really been fine | :35:23. | :35:27. | |
since the day we found At the end of the day, we just | :35:28. | :35:30. | |
want him to be given a chance. You're never going to find | :35:31. | :35:38. | |
treatments or cures for these things What we're asking to give | :35:39. | :35:41. | |
him are not poisons. They're naturally occurring | :35:42. | :35:48. | |
compounds that me and you can produce, and unfortunately he's | :35:49. | :35:51. | |
deficient in them and he can't So, you know, there's no real known | :35:52. | :35:54. | |
side effects to these medications so I kind of think the whole time, | :35:55. | :36:03. | |
why not try? It's just something that | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
his body requires, you know? I know people will say | :36:08. | :36:15. | |
it's very different. If a diabetic doesn't have insulin, | :36:16. | :36:19. | |
then they're in trouble. Insulin is known | :36:20. | :36:24. | |
to be safe in humans. Who was the first | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
person to try this? We feel like because he's got | :36:29. | :36:32. | |
a rare disease, then he hasn't got any treatment at the moment, | :36:33. | :36:35. | |
but he's only number 16. He always has been and always | :36:36. | :36:39. | |
will be our number one priority, but we know how it feels to have | :36:40. | :36:46. | |
someone born with this disease, so if anyone else in the future | :36:47. | :36:49. | |
is born with this disease, we want something that can | :36:50. | :36:52. | |
help this, and we want to find a treatment | :36:53. | :36:55. | |
and cure for the disease. We want parents taken | :36:56. | :36:58. | |
into the side room to say, "We've got something for you, | :36:59. | :37:01. | |
something you can take." We don't want that devastating news | :37:02. | :37:04. | |
of, "There's nothing we can do." Our correspondent Daniel Boettcher | :37:05. | :37:10. | |
is outside the High Court. What happens today, Daniel? Well, | :37:11. | :37:23. | |
Joanna, we expect a judge to hear detailed arguments from both sides | :37:24. | :37:29. | |
in this case. Now, Charlie was born last August, initially he seemed | :37:30. | :37:33. | |
perfectly healthy, but after about six weeks as parents noticed that he | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
was losing weight. When he was eight weeks old, he was taken to a local | :37:38. | :37:40. | |
hospital, initial tests couldn't establish what the matter was. In | :37:41. | :37:46. | |
October, he was then taken to Great Ormond Street Hospital, and he has | :37:47. | :37:48. | |
been diagnosed with a very region and a condition, which is a type of | :37:49. | :37:53. | |
mitochondrial depletion syndrome, and his parents believe he is only | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
the 16th person to be diagnosed with this particular form. The | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
mitochondria are the power units of the cells, if you like, they power | :38:03. | :38:06. | |
various functions of cells, and this condition leads to muscle weakness, | :38:07. | :38:13. | |
progressive muscle weakness, so Charlie is being treated in the | :38:14. | :38:17. | |
intensive care unit at Great Ormond Street Hospital, and the doctors | :38:18. | :38:20. | |
there say that there is no accepted queue. They now believe that | :38:21. | :38:25. | |
withdrawal of life-support treatment is in his best interests, but his | :38:26. | :38:29. | |
parents want to take him to America, where they hope that he can receive | :38:30. | :38:32. | |
treatment. As you have erred, in that interview with them, and at a | :38:33. | :38:39. | |
hearing last month a judge was told that an American hospital will | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
accept him for treatment being trialled there so long as they can | :38:43. | :38:45. | |
pay for it. So is parents have been raising funds, and an online | :38:46. | :38:52. | |
donation page shows that they have already exceeded an initial ?1.2 | :38:53. | :38:57. | |
million target, but whether he can be taken to the United States now | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
depends firstly on practicalities, but primarily it will depend on the | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
decision of a judge here, once he has heard both sides of the | :39:08. | :39:12. | |
argument. He will decide what is in Charlie's best interests. Thank you | :39:13. | :39:16. | |
Ray Mutch, Daniel. Lots of you reacting to Ashley's report about | :39:17. | :39:22. | |
the financial pressures on care leavers. Stewart says, good news | :39:23. | :39:26. | |
that councils are reacting to this. Khalid tweets, thank you for your | :39:27. | :39:31. | |
report highlighting these important matters. Tom tweets, councils have | :39:32. | :39:40. | |
legal parenting responsibilities to care leavers, what would any other | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
reasonable parents do to support their child? Robert tweets, their | :39:45. | :39:47. | |
lives have been hard enough, anything to help is a blessing, good | :39:48. | :39:51. | |
luck to them all. Jude says, we need more stories putting the spotlight | :39:52. | :39:57. | |
on what care leavers have to face. Thank you for your comments, we will | :39:58. | :40:01. | |
be talking about that more later with two care leavers who are | :40:02. | :40:05. | |
benefiting from the decision by their councils to wave council tax. | :40:06. | :40:08. | |
It's one year since a British charity worker was was sentenced | :40:09. | :40:11. | |
to five years in jail by a secret Iranian court. | :40:12. | :40:13. | |
Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, a project manager at | :40:14. | :40:19. | |
the Thomson Reuters Foundation, has been imprisoned in Iran | :40:20. | :40:21. | |
since April, when she was arrested and accused of attempting | :40:22. | :40:23. | |
In a moment, we'll talk to Nazanin's husband Richard, who's here, | :40:24. | :40:26. | |
but first here's a quick reminder of what's happened so far. | :40:27. | :41:17. | |
Let's now speak to Richard Ratcliffe, who's with us. | :41:18. | :41:25. | |
Thank you very much, another anniversary, if you can call it | :41:26. | :41:32. | |
that, tell us what the latest is an Nazanin. Yes, that is right, the | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
latest is she is still in prison, she is still waiting for hospital | :41:38. | :41:42. | |
treatment, so she was very ill back in February, she saw a neurological | :41:43. | :41:45. | |
specialist who said that she needed to be admitted to hospital, but the | :41:46. | :41:50. | |
judge decided it was not going to happen. We have been waiting for | :41:51. | :41:55. | |
that to progress. What the health issues? Is this something that has | :41:56. | :41:59. | |
come about since she was in custody? Yes, she has had a problem with her | :42:00. | :42:03. | |
neck, back and shoulder, and she been passing out, and also not been | :42:04. | :42:09. | |
able to move her arms. At different times, we have at this but don't | :42:10. | :42:21. | |
like -- we have had different reports. She has spasms of pain that | :42:22. | :42:30. | |
sometimes are not so bad, sometimes terrible, and sometimes she is not | :42:31. | :42:35. | |
able to lie down. So I don't know, that is the honest answer. That is | :42:36. | :42:40. | |
obviously physically debilitating what about her mental state? It has | :42:41. | :42:45. | |
been very tough, obviously she was in solitary confinement for the best | :42:46. | :42:49. | |
part of 18 months, moved to general cells after Christmas, and in some | :42:50. | :42:53. | |
ways it is about the legacy of that coming through, she talks about | :42:54. | :42:56. | |
panic attacks, not being able to sleep. One of the things of the | :42:57. | :43:00. | |
interrogation is pressure, threats, and those comeback. -- and those | :43:01. | :43:10. | |
comeback. For me, the hardest part will be the psychological part, that | :43:11. | :43:15. | |
is where the scars will be long-term. Yesterday we mark the | :43:16. | :43:19. | |
anniversary, at a tree in our local park we put loads of messages for | :43:20. | :43:23. | |
what people would do with one day of freedom. The idea of it, really, was | :43:24. | :43:28. | |
to keep an eye on that hope for tomorrow, and when you come out, | :43:29. | :43:32. | |
that there are things we can do together, simple things like go to | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
the beach, have a coffee or watching Gabriella sleep, things we all took | :43:38. | :43:42. | |
for granted. And talking to other prisoners who have come out of the | :43:43. | :43:45. | |
other side, what you lose is the ability to choose, the ability to | :43:46. | :43:49. | |
feel anything other than stress, so to have a list of things to do can | :43:50. | :43:55. | |
help. And are you now resigned to the fact that she has been sentenced | :43:56. | :43:58. | |
to five years and it will be five years? Are their options to get out | :43:59. | :44:05. | |
soon? I can't cope with five years, I was battling very hard to bring | :44:06. | :44:08. | |
her home for Christmas, and that didn't happen, and then there was a | :44:09. | :44:13. | |
bit of a lull, and now I am battling until the summer, I am working in | :44:14. | :44:21. | |
blocks of six months, like a staircase. This was the mark of a | :44:22. | :44:27. | |
new start. In terms of how long, we had a trial, she wasn't allowed to | :44:28. | :44:30. | |
speak at the trial, sentenced to five years. We had an appeal where | :44:31. | :44:34. | |
the sentence was confirmed, she was allowed to say a few words, but it | :44:35. | :44:38. | |
was confirmed, and lies were told. There is a final High Court appeal, | :44:39. | :44:43. | |
no date set, the papers are there for that to happen. So the legal | :44:44. | :44:49. | |
process continues, and the political and diplomatic process continues. | :44:50. | :44:52. | |
And you have a daughter, Gabriella, who is nearly three. And she is | :44:53. | :44:57. | |
there, being looked after by her grandparents. With this situation is | :44:58. | :45:02. | |
so uncertain, in terms of how long Nazanin might be there, can you | :45:03. | :45:06. | |
bring her back? We have been asking for her passport back, the Iranian | :45:07. | :45:12. | |
authorities still have her passport, that is a technicality, but the one | :45:13. | :45:15. | |
thing that is important for Nazanin is to be able to see Gabriella. At | :45:16. | :45:21. | |
the moment, it is once a week, so back in the autumn I was exploring | :45:22. | :45:24. | |
whether I should bring her home, and she said, please don't take my baby | :45:25. | :45:29. | |
away, I live for senior. I made a promise to her that it is a choice, | :45:30. | :45:36. | |
we will keep trying to get the passport back, but fundamentally, if | :45:37. | :45:39. | |
Nazanin can control nothing in this, at least she can decide what happens | :45:40. | :45:44. | |
to Gabriella. Tobias Ellwood, the Minister for the Middle East, has | :45:45. | :45:50. | |
raised the case with Iran and is also supporting you directly. What | :45:51. | :45:54. | |
support our view had? It has got better, we have met with the Foreign | :45:55. | :45:58. | |
Office quite frequently recently, very caring and sympathetic. I | :45:59. | :46:07. | |
suppose my criticism would be of the Government is that there is a glass | :46:08. | :46:11. | |
ceiling, it has never been raised by the Foreign Secretary, and there has | :46:12. | :46:18. | |
never been any criticism. Nazanin was on holiday, held in secret | :46:19. | :46:23. | |
charges, a five-year sentence - you know, all of these Iranian and | :46:24. | :46:27. | |
international laws were broken, and the Government has never said, | :46:28. | :46:30. | |
listen, we don't treat a British citizen like that, it is not | :46:31. | :46:31. | |
acceptable. Do you think what the Government is | :46:32. | :46:39. | |
doing will make any difference then? I want them to bring her home and it | :46:40. | :46:43. | |
would be good for them to stand up for her. Thank you very much, | :46:44. | :46:44. | |
Richard. Thank you. This is about 12 months of growth | :46:45. | :46:54. | |
since chemo finished and it has come Victoria says goodbye | :46:55. | :47:06. | |
to her wig in her latest video diary charting her recovery | :47:07. | :47:12. | |
from breast cancer. From September, some children | :47:13. | :47:17. | |
in England will be eligible for 30 It's double what's | :47:18. | :47:20. | |
currently on offer. But we've been told that about half | :47:21. | :47:24. | |
of nurseries are either uncertain if they'll be offering the scheme | :47:25. | :47:27. | |
or have decided already to opt out. The Government says 390,000 | :47:28. | :47:30. | |
three and four-year-olds in England will be eligible, | :47:31. | :47:31. | |
but some say it could be closer to 500,000, meaning | :47:32. | :47:34. | |
a shortage of spaces. Research from the Pre-School | :47:35. | :47:42. | |
Learning Alliance, a charity representing childcare providers, | :47:43. | :47:44. | |
suggests that over 36% of nurseries are unsure if they will offer | :47:45. | :47:54. | |
the 30 hours scheme, while almost 20% say | :47:55. | :47:56. | |
they are definitely opting out. The majority of providers say | :47:57. | :47:58. | |
government funding falls short of the actual hourly cost of looking | :47:59. | :48:01. | |
after a child and there are fears many nurseries could be forced | :48:02. | :48:04. | |
to close under the new scheme. Let's talk now to Neil Leitch, | :48:05. | :48:06. | |
who is the chief executive of the Pre-School Learning Alliance | :48:07. | :48:09. | |
who carried out this research. Liz Burnett, whose nursery | :48:10. | :48:11. | |
won't be offering 30 hours. Jane Jones, who is unsure | :48:12. | :48:18. | |
if their nursery can or not. Luisa Element, a mother of two whose | :48:19. | :48:21. | |
youngest son is eligible but his nursery doesn't know | :48:22. | :48:27. | |
if they can offer it. Vanessa Warn, a nursery owner | :48:28. | :48:29. | |
from York who was part of the government trial, | :48:30. | :48:32. | |
and with her Jill Campbell, a mother who's child goes | :48:33. | :48:36. | |
to Vanessa's nursery and under 30 Thank you very much for joining us. | :48:37. | :48:48. | |
Neil, you have been carrying out the research. Tell us more about what | :48:49. | :48:53. | |
you have found in terms of how many private providers will be offering | :48:54. | :48:57. | |
the 30 hours? Well, the difficult thing is we already know that many | :48:58. | :49:02. | |
providers are reluctant to participate. This research which was | :49:03. | :49:09. | |
over 1300 participants, around 44% only have said that they would | :49:10. | :49:14. | |
participate so we are left with a huge void in terms of the number of | :49:15. | :49:18. | |
places that are likely to be available come September and that is | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
pretty poor news for parents who think they can knock on the door and | :49:23. | :49:25. | |
come in and a place will be available. The research is saying | :49:26. | :49:29. | |
that's not the case. Liz, you are one of those saying you will not | :49:30. | :49:33. | |
offer the 30 hours, why not? We are a village pre-school. We're only | :49:34. | :49:39. | |
open for 30 hours a week. And we are under funded on the 15 hours | :49:40. | :49:45. | |
currently. So therefore, we will have lost about ?24,000 this year in | :49:46. | :49:51. | |
terms of offering the 15 free hours. Therefore, with under funding, still | :49:52. | :49:55. | |
an issue as of September, to offer the 30 would be financial suicide | :49:56. | :50:00. | |
for us. Would you go bust, would you? Yeah, we would be unable to | :50:01. | :50:06. | |
keep the doors open, but by not offering it, we are, you know, | :50:07. | :50:09. | |
perhaps going to be losing parents who are looking for the 30 hours | :50:10. | :50:15. | |
offer. Jane, you're not sure if your nursery will be able to offer the 30 | :50:16. | :50:20. | |
hours. What are the considerations for you? It is the same as Liz, it | :50:21. | :50:25. | |
is the finance. We have the capacity, but we have been under | :50:26. | :50:33. | |
funded since 2015. We were about ?17,000 short 2015/2016 so we're | :50:34. | :50:37. | |
thinking about maybe offering five places and have some policy in place | :50:38. | :50:42. | |
to decide which parents would get that. Possibly if they previously | :50:43. | :50:47. | |
had two-year-old funding and had got into work, but as we have trustees, | :50:48. | :50:51. | |
we need to look at and see what's the best option for us. Let's go to | :50:52. | :50:56. | |
Vanessa, your nursery was part of the Government trial. Did it work | :50:57. | :51:03. | |
out? How did it work financially? It worked extremely well for York. York | :51:04. | :51:07. | |
has a strong partnership with its local authority and we were allowed | :51:08. | :51:11. | |
to charge additional services with the bletsing of the Department of | :51:12. | :51:18. | |
Education. So we were able to not lose any money basically, we were | :51:19. | :51:21. | |
able to communicate with our parents to explain that the Government gave | :51:22. | :51:25. | |
us ?4 an hour, my nursery charges ?5. So we were able to charge our | :51:26. | :51:32. | |
parents ?1 for additional services like food and nappies, forest school | :51:33. | :51:37. | |
and then that actually was met really positively by our parents and | :51:38. | :51:41. | |
we didn't lose any money. Jill, you're sitting a long side Vanessa. | :51:42. | :51:46. | |
You are one of those parents, how did you feel about paying towards | :51:47. | :51:51. | |
what was billed as free childcare? Because the childcare funding had | :51:52. | :51:54. | |
made such an I will pact to our monthly bills, I didn't see it as | :51:55. | :52:00. | |
having to pay towards the daily cost of my daughter having to attend the | :52:01. | :52:05. | |
nursery. I had already seen it as a massive benefit being able to access | :52:06. | :52:09. | |
the funding so I was more than willing to pay the additional pound. | :52:10. | :52:13. | |
Liz and Jane, is that something you could consider to make it viable? At | :52:14. | :52:20. | |
the moment, our children bring packed lunches in. I know that some | :52:21. | :52:24. | |
nurseries have been charging for lunches and things like that, but we | :52:25. | :52:29. | |
don't have facilities to provide a meal as such so... What about | :52:30. | :52:33. | |
nappies? Again, families bring their own nappies in and things so the | :52:34. | :52:38. | |
children arrive each day with a bag which has nappies and things like | :52:39. | :52:43. | |
that. So we are really quite stuck on where we could charge for extras. | :52:44. | :52:49. | |
Our only options being potentially to open for an extra hour of the | :52:50. | :52:53. | |
day, but we have staff who have children themselves and therefore, | :52:54. | :52:57. | |
you know, they're dropping them off at quarter to nine and picking up at | :52:58. | :53:03. | |
just gone 3pm, to stretch our day from 8.30am to 3.30pm would create a | :53:04. | :53:10. | |
big impact on our staffing arrangement. Jane, what about you? | :53:11. | :53:15. | |
We are the same. We are on a school site, and they can have a hot meal | :53:16. | :53:21. | |
and a That would be charged at the same rate as the school. We take | :53:22. | :53:26. | |
children from two. We don't have that many in nappies and those | :53:27. | :53:30. | |
parents bring those. And also parents bring something for snack | :53:31. | :53:35. | |
time for us as well. So we don't have really any scope for charging | :53:36. | :53:40. | |
extra. You have got a two-year-old boy who will be eligible for the 30 | :53:41. | :53:43. | |
hours from September, but you don't know if his nursery will offer it? | :53:44. | :53:49. | |
What have they said? I've asked them a number of times now and they keep | :53:50. | :53:52. | |
saying they are having meetings about it, but they haven't decided | :53:53. | :53:56. | |
which means that in the moon time, we're if limbo waiting for a | :53:57. | :54:00. | |
decision because we're faced with having to find another childcare | :54:01. | :54:04. | |
provider for one year before my son goes to school. I'm fully expecting | :54:05. | :54:09. | |
them to say that it is not financially viable, but until we get | :54:10. | :54:13. | |
a des we are just waiting. What options do you have? Well, the | :54:14. | :54:19. | |
school that my oldest son goes to have already said they were not | :54:20. | :54:22. | |
going to offer the 30 hours in their nursery. So the option we have, I | :54:23. | :54:26. | |
guess, is to either leave him where he is and take the hit and not get | :54:27. | :54:30. | |
the 30 hours funding that we are entitled to or find somewhere else | :54:31. | :54:34. | |
that does offer the 30 hours, but that's another issue because we | :54:35. | :54:37. | |
don't know yet where is going to be offering it because lots of people | :54:38. | :54:41. | |
haven't decided yet. So it's tricky. Neil, local authorities have to | :54:42. | :54:45. | |
offer the 30 hours for free, don't they? There is always an option? | :54:46. | :54:50. | |
They have an obligation to offer it, but at the end of the day, it is | :54:51. | :54:53. | |
down to the provider and I think what we really need to remember here | :54:54. | :54:58. | |
is held out to be free childcare, so the real crit is that parents | :54:59. | :55:01. | |
shouldn't have to pay additional charges and if Government haven't | :55:02. | :55:05. | |
put enough money in, they should make up the difference. There is no | :55:06. | :55:10. | |
such thing as free childcare, there is subsidised childcare. They need | :55:11. | :55:13. | |
to be honest and say that's what it is. When the policy was announced a | :55:14. | :55:17. | |
couple of weeks before the election, no consultation. The Government had | :55:18. | :55:20. | |
no idea of what it would cost. They had no idea of whether there was | :55:21. | :55:23. | |
capacity within the sector to deliver it and when you look at | :55:24. | :55:28. | |
numbers, when they announced it pre-election, they said 630,000 | :55:29. | :55:33. | |
parents would benefit. When it came to post election, only 390,000, I'd | :55:34. | :55:38. | |
suggest if you walked into any business, commercial environment, | :55:39. | :55:42. | |
put an offer like that on the table, you would be laughed out of the | :55:43. | :55:45. | |
building, yet we as providers are expected to make up for a poor | :55:46. | :55:50. | |
policy. When there is criticism of charges, it won't fall on | :55:51. | :55:53. | |
Government. It will be on Liz and Jane. It would be be on ministers. | :55:54. | :55:57. | |
How many parents would you estimate would actually end up not being able | :55:58. | :56:01. | |
to access it or having to pay an element? 44% of providers. At the | :56:02. | :56:09. | |
moment we estimate 200,000 of those parents will not find a place as it | :56:10. | :56:12. | |
stands and Government recognises that. Hidden in the last Budget... | :56:13. | :56:20. | |
That's 50%? 50% roughly speaking. Hidden in the last Budget Government | :56:21. | :56:26. | |
said we're not going to have to spend the same amount of free | :56:27. | :56:32. | |
extended 15 hours. They recognise it. They just won't put enough money | :56:33. | :56:38. | |
in. Jill, you said that at least it has mitigated your childcare costs, | :56:39. | :56:42. | |
but in terms of a policy where you're told you're going to get free | :56:43. | :56:45. | |
childcare and then you have to pay towards it. How do you feel about | :56:46. | :56:51. | |
that? I think, every parent would be different. For me personally, I was | :56:52. | :57:00. | |
more than willing to contribute towards my daughter's daily cost at | :57:01. | :57:05. | |
nursery because I wouldn't want any nursery to have to suffer and | :57:06. | :57:11. | |
therefore the child have to suffer because of an inability for the | :57:12. | :57:17. | |
nursery to be able to survive on the reduced funding that they receive | :57:18. | :57:20. | |
from the local authorities. If you had to pay, how would you | :57:21. | :57:27. | |
feel about that? Well, we're paying already | :57:28. | :57:31. | |
obviously. But having been told, you're eligible for 30 free hours | :57:32. | :57:39. | |
and you may not get that? Obviously I would prefer not to | :57:40. | :57:44. | |
prefer for the hours that we are entitled. We have to see how that's | :57:45. | :57:49. | |
going to pan out. It is not looking particularly good for us, yeah, of | :57:50. | :57:52. | |
course, I would like to take up the 30 hours that we're entitled to. | :57:53. | :57:57. | |
What's it like, Liz, when you've got parents coming to you saying, "Hang | :57:58. | :58:04. | |
on, I'm entitled to this." And you're telling them you're not | :58:05. | :58:08. | |
offering it? We're lucky and we have supportive parents and the withins | :58:09. | :58:11. | |
that we have spoken to and explained the situation and told them how | :58:12. | :58:15. | |
under funded we actually are on a per child per hour cost have | :58:16. | :58:20. | |
actually said well, we understand and we appreciate why you are unable | :58:21. | :58:25. | |
to do so. They are disappointed. Obviously from their prospective | :58:26. | :58:29. | |
they would like to have us offering the full 30 hours, we are three | :58:30. | :58:35. | |
times outstanding sort of facility. Our parents are really happy with | :58:36. | :58:40. | |
what we do, but they do appreciate that financially we are unable to | :58:41. | :58:45. | |
carry that cost. Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts with us. | :58:46. | :58:49. | |
The Department for Education told us they are putting a record ?6 billion | :58:50. | :58:52. | |
into childcare per year by 2020, including ?300 million | :58:53. | :58:54. | |
to increase the hourly funding rates paid to nurseries, | :58:55. | :58:56. | |
They said, "The vast majority of providers will see their funding | :58:57. | :59:00. | |
rate increase and councils will have to pass 95 % of this funding | :59:01. | :59:03. | |
Let's get the latest weather update with Carol. | :59:04. | :59:19. | |
We have had fog. Some frost and sunshine and rain. Most of the fog | :59:20. | :59:25. | |
will lift during the course of the next couple of hours. But there will | :59:26. | :59:29. | |
be some sea fog lapping on shore as we go through the course of the day. | :59:30. | :59:34. | |
It will hold the temperature back. We have got rain coming across | :59:35. | :59:39. | |
Northern Ireland and Scotland. And pushing towards the South East | :59:40. | :59:42. | |
overnight. Overnight. Behind it, there will be cloud and for England | :59:43. | :59:45. | |
and Wales not as cold a night as it was last night, but a cooler night | :59:46. | :59:48. | |
across Scotland and Northern Ireland. So this is how we start | :59:49. | :59:50. | |
tomorrow with a weather front in the south-east. Still producing rain, | :59:51. | :59:56. | |
albeit patchy. That clears away, leaving residual cloud with the odd | :59:57. | :59:59. | |
spot of drizzle coming out of that, but for most it will be dry and | :00:00. | :00:02. | |
bright and there will be somebody shine. A lot of showers blowing in | :00:03. | :00:06. | |
on a gusty wind across the north of Scotland. In Shetland some of those | :00:07. | :00:12. | |
could be wintry, and our temperature eight Celsius in the north to 15 | :00:13. | :00:14. | |
Celsius in the south. Hello, it's Monday, | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
I'm Joanna Gosling, in for Victoria. Police say they want to question | :00:19. | :00:23. | |
three more people over the vicious beating of a teenage asylum | :00:24. | :00:26. | |
seeker in Croydon. There have been eight | :00:27. | :00:28. | |
arrests so far. Police are due to hold a news | :00:29. | :00:30. | |
conference in the next half hour. We take a look at the financial | :00:31. | :00:33. | |
challenges faced by young people when they leave the care system | :00:34. | :00:36. | |
at 18 and the local "That's it, we no longer need | :00:37. | :00:38. | |
to be in contact with you, you've now hit that age | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
where you can live by yourself independently, and there you go, | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
off you go into the world," kind of thing, and there was | :00:46. | :00:47. | |
not much preparation for that. Outrage after ?250,000 | :00:48. | :00:56. | |
of tampon tax money is used to help fund | :00:57. | :01:00. | |
an anti-abortion charity. One MP tells us the ground should be | :01:01. | :01:10. | |
stopped. The tampon tax fund was about empowering women, it is one of | :01:11. | :01:13. | |
the biggest awards to a charity which takes choice away from women. | :01:14. | :01:20. | |
Surely women, if we do believe in choice, must have more than one | :01:21. | :01:23. | |
choice. That interview in full at half-mast. Also coming up... | :01:24. | :01:33. | |
How brilliant is he?! He is 11 years old and from Nottingham. | :01:34. | :01:38. | |
last night as the world's youngest orchestra conductor | :01:39. | :01:44. | |
We will talk with him and his mum live a little later this hour. | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :01:51. | :01:58. | |
Detectives investigating an attack on a teenage asylum seeker, | :01:59. | :02:00. | |
Have now charged five people. Police investigating the attack last Friday | :02:01. | :02:12. | |
believe up to 20 people were involved in the attack. | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
Donald Trump has warned that the US will solve the North Korean nuclear | :02:17. | :02:19. | |
In an interview with the Financial Times, | :02:20. | :02:21. | |
"If China is not going to solve North Korea, we will." | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
Mr Trump confirmed he was referring to direct unilateral action. | :02:26. | :02:28. | |
The comments come ahead of a visit to the US | :02:29. | :02:35. | |
Significant restrictions on the use of bail by police in England | :02:36. | :02:39. | |
The amount of time a suspect released from custody can remain | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
on bail will be limited to 28 days in most cases. | :02:44. | :02:46. | |
The decision is in response to concerns that people | :02:47. | :02:48. | |
were being left in limbo for months or even years. | :02:49. | :02:51. | |
as our home affairs correspondent June Kelly reports. | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
Famous faces who've been under police investigation, | :02:56. | :02:58. | |
finally told they wouldn't be facing charges, | :02:59. | :02:59. | |
but only after long months on bail. | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
They were among the 5000 still on bail after a year. | :03:04. | :03:06. | |
The Government says the system needed rebalancing. | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
Well, what's happened in the past is people could be put on bail | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
with no end in sight and no check or balance, which means we had | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
thousands of people could be on bail for 12 months or more. | :03:18. | :03:20. | |
In fact, there were examples of people on for several years, | :03:21. | :03:22. | |
We've got to make sure we've got a proper system that is | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
It's part of an overhaul of the bail system in England and Wales. | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
From now on, some suspects won't be subject to police bail at all. | :03:32. | :03:34. | |
For those who are bailed, in most cases, the limit will be 28 days. | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
But a senior police officer will be able to grant one three-month | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
The police will have to seek the permission of a magistrate | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
The Police Federation, which represents rank-and-file officers, | :03:49. | :03:51. | |
28 days, in the cycle of a police officer, | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
is not a long time for investigating a crime. | :03:57. | :03:58. | |
You've also got to bear in mind, in relation to external inquiries, | :03:59. | :04:01. | |
what we tend to have is external resource, so we have got | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
the Forensic Science Service, CPS, and 28 days is not realistic | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
for them to come back to us with the information | :04:09. | :04:11. | |
The Police Federation said the old system protected | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
complainants and victims and helped prevent further offending. | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
Spain's Foreign Minister has said this morning | :04:21. | :04:25. | |
that there's no need to lose tempers over Gibraltar. | :04:26. | :04:28. | |
He was speaking after Gibraltar's chief minister insisted yesterday | :04:29. | :04:30. | |
that the territory won't be used as a bargaining chip | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
in negotiations over Britain's exit from the European Union. | :04:35. | :04:37. | |
The EU's guidelines on the Brexit talks suggest that Spain, | :04:38. | :04:39. | |
which claims sovereignty over the Gibraltar, | :04:40. | :04:42. | |
might be able to veto decisions that affect the territory. | :04:43. | :04:50. | |
This morning, Boris Johnson said there would be no change in the | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
status of Gibraltar without the consent of its people. Well, I think | :04:56. | :05:01. | |
the position of the Government is very clear, which is that the | :05:02. | :05:04. | |
sovereignty of Gibraltar is unchanged, and it is not going to | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
change, and cannot conceivably change without the express support | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
and consent of the people of Gibraltar, and the United Kingdom, | :05:13. | :05:15. | |
and that is not go the change will stop thanks a lot! | :05:16. | :05:17. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :05:18. | :05:19. | |
Loads of you getting in touch about the financial pressures on care | :05:20. | :05:28. | |
leavers, Christian has e-mailed, students are exempt from council | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
tax, so no reason why we shouldn't give care leavers the same support. | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
Although 18 is the legal age for adults and, the transition from | :05:37. | :05:39. | |
adolescence varies from person to person. Those who have been in | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
institutional care likely to cope than other teenagers, this is | :05:46. | :05:53. | |
sensible. Robina says, as well as exemption from council tax, it would | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
be good to have a centre whereby such Kellie Wells can live together | :05:58. | :06:02. | |
and be given a bit of targeted support if necessary. -- such care | :06:03. | :06:09. | |
leavers can live together. Melnicescu and this needs to be | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
combined with improved training. -- Melanie says. Many services are | :06:15. | :06:25. | |
under too much pressure or not delivering adequate support to the | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
children. Michael has e-mailed, care leavers deserve all the help they | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
need because the effect of being in care can last throughout their | :06:35. | :06:37. | |
lives. I was in care for ten years and lived in several children's | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
homes, when it was time to leave, it was deemed I was not capable of | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
living on my own because I was institutionalised, and instead I was | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
put into a hostel. Despite spending most of my life in care, it was as | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
if I had never been in care, eyelid in the hostel for ten years, not | :06:54. | :06:59. | |
sure what to do. -- I lived. I attempted to kill myself, I spent a | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
week in intensive care, but fortunately I survived, I am glad I | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
did, I am a single parent with two beautiful girls. Gina says, I am an | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
81-year-old pensioner who gets no help from the state and my biggest | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
worry is paying my council tax bill. But I have a well furnished home and | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
enough money to pay the rest of my bills, these young men and women | :07:21. | :07:25. | |
need all the help they can get, they seem to have been forgotten in the | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
space of things. Come on, they should be given a free grant, it is | :07:31. | :07:36. | |
disgusting how young adults are left like this. And Julie says, I have no | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
contact with my family after leaving home at the age of 17. Thank you for | :07:40. | :07:48. | |
your thoughts and comments, do get in touch. Texts will be charged at | :07:49. | :07:49. | |
the standard network rate. Let's get some sport | :07:50. | :07:52. | |
with Hugh Woozencroft. Good morning and very good if you | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
are a fan of Celtic. It may be only the first week of | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
April, but Brendan Rodgers side have clinched the Scottish Premiership | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
again after beating Scott Sinclair scored a hat-trick, | :08:06. | :08:06. | |
which helped put them 25 points clear of second-placed Aberdeen, | :08:07. | :08:11. | |
and they're still on for the domestic treble - | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
having won the League Cup, they are also into the last four | :08:18. | :08:19. | |
in the Scottish Cup. I am very honoured and very | :08:20. | :08:29. | |
privileged to manage Glasgow Celtic. When you support a team like this as | :08:30. | :08:32. | |
a boy, and you know the history of the club, I was happy to take on the | :08:33. | :08:39. | |
responsibility to make the supporters dream and make the | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
supporters happy. This coming season, and hopefully for years to | :08:44. | :08:44. | |
come. Manchester United defender | :08:45. | :08:47. | |
Luke Shaw's future at the club is in doubt following | :08:48. | :08:49. | |
a stinging attack from his manager, | :08:50. | :08:51. | |
Jose Mourinho. He thinks the England international | :08:52. | :08:52. | |
isn't even deserving saying Shaw lacks commitment, | :08:53. | :08:54. | |
focus and ambition. He's only played 15 times | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
the season, with his boss claiming he is a long way behind his | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
competition for a place in the team. Lexi Thompson, the American golfer, | :09:04. | :09:07. | |
must be heartbroken after an eagle-eyed television | :09:08. | :09:09. | |
viewer called in to say they'd spotted an infringement | :09:10. | :09:11. | |
that cost her a major title. It happened at the first women's | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
golf major of the year, with Thompson holding | :09:17. | :09:18. | |
a two-shot lead in tournament. She only found out | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
with six holes to play, and the infringement happened | :09:24. | :09:29. | |
a full 24 hours beforehand. She was left in tears, | :09:30. | :09:35. | |
calling it ridiculous, as she was handed a four-stroke | :09:36. | :09:37. | |
penalty, losing her lead and eventually the title as well | :09:38. | :09:39. | |
in a play-off to So Yeon Ryu The 14-time Major winner | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
Tiger Woods tweeted, "Viewers at home should not be | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
officials wearing stripes." Former US Open winner | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
Graeme McDowell said, "Another rough day for the deep dark | :09:52. | :09:53. | |
complex rules of golf, simplification cannot | :09:54. | :09:55. | |
come quick enough." Finally, Lexi Thompson herself took | :09:56. | :09:57. | |
to Instagram a few hours ago, saying, "Well, it was an emotional | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
day here for me, first off I do want to say what I had done | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
was 100% not intentional." I played amazing today, probably the | :10:07. | :10:18. | |
best golf I played all week. I wasn't expecting that on whatever | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
hole it was, I did not intentionally do that, so to the officials or | :10:23. | :10:26. | |
whoever called in, that was not my purpose. I didn't realise I did | :10:27. | :10:32. | |
that. But you know, I fought hard coming in, I didn't give up, I knew | :10:33. | :10:37. | |
I could still win, but so many players played great, so congrats. | :10:38. | :10:42. | |
Things went slightly better for Roger Federer. | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
He says he'll have some time off after winning the Miami Open. | :10:47. | :10:49. | |
He beat Spain's Rafa Nadal in straight sets to move up | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
to fourth in the world rankings but won't play most of the clay | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
court season and will probably next appear at the French Open | :10:58. | :10:59. | |
That is all the sport for now, we will be back with more at around | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
10:30. While most teenagers are living | :11:05. | :11:06. | |
at home when they turn 18, are suddenly thrust | :11:07. | :11:09. | |
into a grown-up world. They can find themselves | :11:10. | :11:12. | |
alone in a flat with all Managing money is one of the biggest | :11:13. | :11:15. | |
challenges, and a new scheme, so far adopted by 14 councils, | :11:16. | :11:19. | |
aims to help. Our reporter | :11:20. | :11:22. | |
Ashley John-Baptiste, who was himself in care, | :11:23. | :11:23. | |
has this report. and I moved into a council | :11:24. | :11:28. | |
flat on this street. I'm really nervous, | :11:29. | :11:34. | |
because I haven't been back here for at least, | :11:35. | :11:36. | |
say, five years. But this is the flat I moved | :11:37. | :11:39. | |
into when I left care when I had to fend for myself as an adult, | :11:40. | :11:47. | |
and I can see the flat. I remember thinking, | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
"What the heck?" "I've got to go and live | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
independently by myself I remember the toughest weekend | :11:57. | :11:58. | |
potentially of my life was when I had 37p to live off | :11:59. | :12:06. | |
for a weekend, and all I could afford was an onion, | :12:07. | :12:12. | |
and I had a bit of tuna, and I made pasta tuna | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
and lived by myself. I know I wasn't alone in finding it | :12:17. | :12:28. | |
difficult to leave care, Research suggests well over half | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
of care leavers struggle That's why as of this month some | :12:33. | :12:38. | |
councils have decided to stop charging care leavers council tax | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
until they are older. In reality, only a small number | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
of care leavers will benefit. The councils that are doing this | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
hope it will ease the sudden Tiffany was taken into care | :12:56. | :12:58. | |
on Christmas Eve when she was five. Growing up, she was moved 15 times | :12:59. | :13:13. | |
all over the country. They officially went, | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
"That's it, we no longer need to be in contact with you, | :13:19. | :13:24. | |
you've now hit that age when you can live by yourself | :13:25. | :13:26. | |
independently and there you go, off you go into the world," | :13:27. | :13:29. | |
kind of thing, and there was not much | :13:30. | :13:31. | |
preparation for that. It's my bank. | :13:32. | :13:34. | |
Do you know what it says? "We are aware that you | :13:35. | :13:36. | |
couldn't make payment." Can I have a read? | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
Do you mind? About 2000 across | :13:41. | :13:44. | |
different companies. Council tax bills | :13:45. | :13:51. | |
are probably the worst one. This is my place that | :13:52. | :13:53. | |
nobody can take away from me. Jodie was taken into care | :13:54. | :14:14. | |
when she was eight but said she was also excited at | :14:15. | :14:16. | |
the prospect of being independent. How did you cope with the pressures | :14:17. | :14:27. | |
of being an adult, If you don't open the post, | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
then you don't have to deal with it. Some councils have decided to scrap | :14:31. | :14:39. | |
council tax for young care leavers. Do you think this is a measure | :14:40. | :14:45. | |
that will help care leavers? Yeah, I do. | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
It gives them the chance to adjust. But some might say why should care | :14:50. | :14:55. | |
leavers benefit from this, but not other vulnerable groups | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
in society? People who come from a normal family | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
have that, "Can I borrow 20 quid?" There have been times when I've got | :15:04. | :15:08. | |
literally nothing in the cupboards, and I've gone hungry | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
because I have nobody to lend me We can now speak to | :15:14. | :15:16. | |
Tiffany Bacchus, who is 20 She spent two years in care | :15:17. | :15:29. | |
from the age of 16. She has struggled to pay her council | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
tax in the past but is now exempt. Ria Roberts is from west | :15:34. | :15:37. | |
London and was in care She's now 21 and has just moved | :15:38. | :15:39. | |
into her own council flat, and a change on 1st April means | :15:40. | :15:44. | |
she won't have to pay council tax. Claire Ward is a housing | :15:45. | :15:49. | |
advice officer for care Stephen Cowan is the leader | :15:50. | :15:51. | |
of Hammersmith and Fulham council, he's a Labour councillor | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
and who have just stopped charging Thank you for joining us. Tiffany | :15:56. | :16:09. | |
you went into care from 16 to 18. At 18 you went into your own flat. Tell | :16:10. | :16:14. | |
us what that was like and how you coped? It was a shock going in from | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
so much help to taking a step back and having to manage all your bills | :16:20. | :16:22. | |
and get a straight head on things very quickly. And how did you cope | :16:23. | :16:29. | |
with bills? Just budgeting plans and getting as much help as k and not | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
being scared to ask for help and looking into what you are entitled | :16:35. | :16:39. | |
to. You have to be quite savvy? Yeah. When bills are coming in and | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
you're fearing you haven't got the money to pay them, it must be | :16:44. | :16:46. | |
frightening? It worries and then you're not able to think about the | :16:47. | :16:52. | |
other smaller bills. So they get out of control sometimes. We are talking | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
today about care leavers being exempt from council tax. That does | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
come in in your area, but before that came in, how much of a burden | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
was council tax? It was a worry. No one likes to have debt on their | :17:07. | :17:09. | |
back... You had a debt, did you have? Yes and to have that there at | :17:10. | :17:14. | |
the time was just a worry, I couldn't focus and feel like I could | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
go out and have fun just for the fact that was at the back of my | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
mind. Were you being pursued for the debt? Yes, I was being pursued. I | :17:23. | :17:30. | |
didn't know I was entitled, to North Somerset Council to help me pay. | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
Were you being pursued by bailiffs? Yes, I was. You were 18. Yeah, I was | :17:36. | :17:41. | |
18 when they came to the door. It was like, "You've got six hours to | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
get it all sorted." Luckily Clare Ward and the team in North Somerset | :17:47. | :17:52. | |
Council said, "She is a care leaver. You can't be going knocking on | :17:53. | :17:57. | |
doors." Sometimes they don't believe the situation and that's their jobs | :17:58. | :18:03. | |
to pursue that. Clare, you were able to help Tiffany and how many others | :18:04. | :18:06. | |
in this situation? I'm not sure of the numbers, but part of what North | :18:07. | :18:11. | |
Somerset do is with the care leavers, we don't take legal action. | :18:12. | :18:17. | |
They stop any legal action for any previous debt so there won't be any | :18:18. | :18:22. | |
bailiffs turning up. So we are getting this sorted out. It came in | :18:23. | :18:28. | |
in 1st April 2016. This is our first full year. It has been a learning | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
curve, but it is working really well. What was your prospective | :18:33. | :18:36. | |
previously on the impact of council tax on care leavers? I came in just | :18:37. | :18:44. | |
before it came in last year, my prodesesor, but we are their | :18:45. | :18:47. | |
corporate parents and these young people don't have a parent to lend | :18:48. | :18:52. | |
them the odd ?50 or ?60. We felt this was something we had a little | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
bit of control over, that we could help them financially to ease them | :18:58. | :19:00. | |
into the independent living. And that's the approach that you've | :19:01. | :19:06. | |
taken as well, Stephen Cawan at Hammersmith and Fulham Council. How | :19:07. | :19:10. | |
would you define the role of a council in terms of parenting kids | :19:11. | :19:15. | |
in care? We're the corporate parent and any parent anywhere has a | :19:16. | :19:18. | |
responsibility to make sure their children have the best possible | :19:19. | :19:21. | |
start in life, but too often care leavers don't have that, so we have | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
been working with some of the care leavers and looking at policies we | :19:26. | :19:30. | |
can implement to make the transition into adulthood easier and getting | :19:31. | :19:33. | |
rid of council tax just seemed an obvious step, but I would stress we | :19:34. | :19:36. | |
see that as the start. We want children in our care to go on and | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
have the best possible life and we know that any corporate parent | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
should be there for them throughout just as much as parents are for | :19:45. | :19:50. | |
their own children. So, you're benefiting from what's happening in | :19:51. | :19:54. | |
Hammersmith and Fulham. Tell us about your situation. Because I'm | :19:55. | :20:00. | |
working part-time I don't get a lot of money. I think I save about | :20:01. | :20:08. | |
?3,000 over the next four years, I'm 21 now. It ends when I'm 25. It is | :20:09. | :20:12. | |
amazing to have that. Like I can spend money on going on holiday or | :20:13. | :20:16. | |
anything else. You mentioned other things that might help people. What | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
more do you think? We are looking at how we can help children get into | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
internships, Ria wants to work at somewhere like the BBC. Parents | :20:27. | :20:29. | |
normally go the extra mile and we are looking at what we can do to | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
help facilitate a child's ambitions to have the type of life they want. | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
We think it is a critical part of being a parent and that's what we | :20:39. | :20:42. | |
intend to do. The question was put in Ashley's report, what about other | :20:43. | :20:47. | |
vulnerable people? How much does all of this cost the council and where | :20:48. | :20:52. | |
do you get, where do you take the money from? There will be 35 | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
children leaving, becoming over the age of 18 this year, and therefore | :20:57. | :20:59. | |
applicable to council tax normally. It will cost us ?49,000 a year to | :21:00. | :21:03. | |
abolish that for them. We think it is a good investment and we think | :21:04. | :21:06. | |
anyone who is in a difficult position needs our help which is why | :21:07. | :21:11. | |
we're investing in foodbanks and why we are the only council to take | :21:12. | :21:16. | |
children out of bed and breakfast accommodation. These children did | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
not ask to come into our care, they were put in for specific reasons and | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
we owe them and we are taking that seriously. Give us your personal | :21:24. | :21:29. | |
prospective on that Ria? I'm lucky because I have a lot of support from | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
my whole experience in care. Being able to volunteer abroad and along | :21:35. | :21:40. | |
with other things. So now hearing if I want to apply for an | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
apprenticeship, these guys are going to back me and help me with. That's | :21:46. | :21:51. | |
amazing. How about you? I agree with the amount of support you get. Just | :21:52. | :21:54. | |
to have that, OK not to worry, calm do you think we'll sort it out and | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
then if everything goes well, we will see what else we can aim for. | :21:59. | :22:04. | |
Lots of comments coming in from viewers who watched Ashley's report | :22:05. | :22:10. | |
and are watching now. A tweet from Vonnie, "After leaving care and | :22:11. | :22:14. | |
entering the homeless system, I have been in debt my entire adult | :22:15. | :22:20. | |
livment" A viewer says, "All the best to both of them. They deserve | :22:21. | :22:25. | |
the best." A social worker says, "I have worked for foster carers and I | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
would be horrified if I found a foster carer was not providing a | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
foster child with the necessary skills." ""There are many reasons | :22:36. | :22:43. | |
why young people need to leave home. Family can't afford to keep them. | :22:44. | :22:48. | |
Bad family relationships. No chance of work in their area, I could go | :22:49. | :22:52. | |
on." What's your reaction to the last comment, Clare? Yeah. Like I | :22:53. | :22:58. | |
said, we are the corporate parent. I think, it's not just financial | :22:59. | :23:01. | |
support that parents give, it is a emotional support. So, you know, | :23:02. | :23:06. | |
your child might pick up the phone and say, "Mum, dad, can you help | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
with this?" We help with emotional support. We are always there, our | :23:11. | :23:13. | |
office has a room where the young people can come, where they can do | :23:14. | :23:18. | |
their washing and cook meals and use the computer and use the phone. | :23:19. | :23:21. | |
There is always someone there to talk to, a friendly face, that's | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
important. The financial side is very important, but that emotional | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
side is also important, I think. We're hearing from you representing | :23:31. | :23:34. | |
councils where this is being done, this level of support is being | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
given. It may not be the same everywhere. It is not the same | :23:39. | :23:43. | |
everywhere, is it? No, it's not. And it's up to those councils to make | :23:44. | :23:47. | |
the decisions that are right for their resident. I do thank the | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
Children's Society who have been pushing this. This is the right | :23:52. | :23:54. | |
thing to do and no matter where there is hardship, where we need to | :23:55. | :23:58. | |
try and fix, we should make sure that we take council tax away from | :23:59. | :24:03. | |
children in care if that's possible and I'm glad we have been able to do | :24:04. | :24:07. | |
it. You want to go in the media and work at the BBC. I'm sure we can, I | :24:08. | :24:12. | |
don't know, I'm sure we can help you. We will do our best. We would | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
love to help you. Tell us more about your am bishings? Yes, so, I'm | :24:17. | :24:22. | |
studying film and television at the moment and hopefully in September I | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
can get on to an apprenticeship and I don't know, start from there. It | :24:27. | :24:33. | |
be a runner, but my dream is to be a writer/film director. Dream big. | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
Follow your dreams. What about you Tiffany? I'm aiming to go on the | :24:38. | :24:46. | |
midwifery side of things, but I'm an adventurous person, support worker, | :24:47. | :24:49. | |
care worker to midwife and see where that takes me. Good luck. It is | :24:50. | :24:54. | |
great to have you all in. Thank you very much. | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
Keep your comments coming in. So many of you getting in touch. We | :24:59. | :24:59. | |
appreciate those comments. As you know, Victoria has | :25:00. | :25:03. | |
been keeping a video diary for this programme, | :25:04. | :25:06. | |
having been diagnosed The diaries have chronicled her | :25:07. | :25:07. | |
mastectomy, chemotherapy and radiotherapy to try and help | :25:08. | :25:10. | |
demystify the treatment. Following chemotherapy, | :25:11. | :25:12. | |
Victoria lost quite a lot of her hair and has been wearing | :25:13. | :25:14. | |
a wig for the last 16 months. OK, so it's time to stop wearing | :25:15. | :25:17. | |
a wig, which I have been wearing since December 2015, | :25:18. | :25:23. | |
since I had chemotherapy And probably about half my hair, | :25:24. | :25:25. | |
maybe three-quarters of my hair, fell out as a result of that | :25:26. | :25:35. | |
treatment, and I have to say losing my hair was the worst bit | :25:36. | :25:38. | |
about cancer treatment for me. And I'm grateful to this wig, | :25:39. | :25:41. | |
actually, because it helped me get on with things, | :25:42. | :25:50. | |
go to work, live my life This is about 12 months of growth | :25:51. | :25:53. | |
since chemo finished. And it's come back as thick | :25:54. | :26:18. | |
as it was, if not thicker. Slightly more ringlety | :26:19. | :26:21. | |
than it was before. But I am actually apprehensive | :26:22. | :26:33. | |
about it, about taking my wig off, But I know it doesn't really matter | :26:34. | :26:36. | |
what my hair looks like. The point is this is proof, | :26:37. | :26:45. | |
if proof were needed, that once chemotherapy is complete, | :26:46. | :26:48. | |
your hair does grow back, and when you're in some of those | :26:49. | :26:50. | |
dark moments during chemo, you do doubt that, as irrational | :26:51. | :26:56. | |
and absurd as that sounds. But your body does slowly renew | :26:57. | :27:00. | |
itself once chemo is complete, and there's something really | :27:01. | :27:03. | |
optimistic about that. You can watch all of Victoria's | :27:04. | :27:17. | |
video diaries via our programme Lots of you getting in touch on help | :27:18. | :27:34. | |
for care leavers. A tweet from LJ "Preparation for adult life needs to | :27:35. | :27:37. | |
be part of school learning. Preventative work is a better | :27:38. | :27:43. | |
approach." Buddy says, "Council tax should be abolished and replaced | :27:44. | :27:49. | |
with a local form of taxation." LJ says, "It is ridiculous taking | :27:50. | :27:55. | |
people to court and adding bailiffs is awful." Fiona says, "Many care | :27:56. | :28:00. | |
leavers want to stay put." Thank you. Keep them coming. | :28:01. | :28:05. | |
Money raised from the tampon tax is being used | :28:06. | :28:09. | |
We speak to one MP who wants the grant stopped. | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
The world's youngest conductor at the age of 11. | :28:14. | :28:16. | |
We speak to Matthew Smith fresh from his record-breaking performance | :28:17. | :28:18. | |
with the Nottingham Symphony Orchestra. | :28:19. | :28:29. | |
We will talk to his proud mum as well. | :28:30. | :28:32. | |
Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :28:33. | :28:35. | |
Detectives investigating an attack on a teenage asylum seeker, | :28:36. | :28:38. | |
which left him seriously injured, have now charged five people. | :28:39. | :28:43. | |
In the past few minutes police investigating the attack last | :28:44. | :28:45. | |
Friday night in Croydon, say that three others | :28:46. | :28:47. | |
Police believe up to 20 people were involved in the attack. | :28:48. | :28:53. | |
Donald Trump has warned that the US will solve the North Korean nuclear | :28:54. | :28:57. | |
In an interview with the Financial Times, | :28:58. | :28:59. | |
the President is quoted as saying, "If China is not going to solve | :29:00. | :29:02. | |
Mr Trump confirmed he was referring to direct unilateral action. | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
The comments come ahead of a visit to the US by the Chinese | :29:07. | :29:09. | |
Significant restrictions on the use of bail by police in England | :29:10. | :29:19. | |
The amount of time a suspect released from custody can remain | :29:20. | :29:23. | |
on bail will be limited to 28 days in most cases. | :29:24. | :29:26. | |
According to the Home Office, the move will end the injustice | :29:27. | :29:29. | |
of people left in limbo for months or even years. | :29:30. | :29:31. | |
But the Police Federation has warned the change will be unrealistic | :29:32. | :29:34. | |
Spain's Foreign Minister has said that there's no need to lose | :29:35. | :29:40. | |
He was speaking after Gibraltar's chief minister insisted yesterday | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
that the territory won't be used as a bargaining chip | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
in negotiations over Britain's exit from the European Union. | :29:50. | :29:51. | |
The EU's guidelines on the Brexit talks suggest that Spain, | :29:52. | :29:53. | |
which claims sovereignty over the Gibraltar, might be able to veto | :29:54. | :29:56. | |
This morning the Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said | :29:57. | :30:01. | |
that there would be no change in the status of Gibraltar | :30:02. | :30:04. | |
Join me for BBC Newsroom Live at 11am. | :30:05. | :30:13. | |
They won the Scottish Premiership title | :30:14. | :30:25. | |
Scott Sinclair's hat-trick helped them to a 5-0 win at Hearts | :30:26. | :30:29. | |
They now need the Scottish Cup title to seal a domestic treble | :30:30. | :30:34. | |
in Brendan Rodgers' first season as manager. | :30:35. | :30:37. | |
Manchester United defender Luke Shaw's future at the club | :30:38. | :30:39. | |
is in doubt, following a stinging attack from his manager, | :30:40. | :30:42. | |
He's claimed the ?27 million signing isn't even deserving | :30:43. | :30:46. | |
of a place on the bench, saying Shaw lacks commitment, | :30:47. | :30:48. | |
American Lexi Thompson was penalised four strokes that cost her the first | :30:49. | :30:54. | |
With six holes to play, she was told she would be | :30:55. | :30:58. | |
punished for an infringement in her previous round. | :30:59. | :31:00. | |
It came after a television viewer emailed the LPGA saying | :31:01. | :31:02. | |
And Roger Federer plans to take a short break from tennis | :31:03. | :31:12. | |
after beating Rafa Nadal to win the Miami Open. | :31:13. | :31:14. | |
He's moved up to number four in the world but says he's unlikely | :31:15. | :31:17. | |
to play again until the French Open at the end of May. | :31:18. | :31:25. | |
That is all the sport from me for this morning, I will be back after | :31:26. | :31:28. | |
11. Labour MP Paula Sheriff has told | :31:29. | :31:30. | |
this programme she plans to confront the Government over why ?250,000 | :31:31. | :31:33. | |
from the tax on women's sanitary products has been awarded to Life, | :31:34. | :31:35. | |
an anti-abortion group in the UK. which is now re-allocated | :31:36. | :31:38. | |
into a fund to support women. The Government announced on 24th | :31:39. | :31:47. | |
March that 70 organisations across the country would share | :31:48. | :31:50. | |
?12 million from this tampon-tax fund, which it said would improve | :31:51. | :31:52. | |
the lives of disadvantaged women Earlier, I heard from both | :31:53. | :31:55. | |
sides of the debate. We can speak now to | :31:56. | :32:07. | |
the Labour MP Paula Sheriff. Ann Scanlon, who is | :32:08. | :32:09. | |
education director at Life. Paula Sheriff first of all, | :32:10. | :32:14. | |
you say you will be raising Why are you so against | :32:15. | :32:18. | |
Life getting money? I'll be raising this as soon | :32:19. | :32:22. | |
as I return back to the House of Commons, and I believe | :32:23. | :32:25. | |
the minister has some serious questions to answer about this | :32:26. | :32:27. | |
charity which offers no Essentially, it is going against | :32:28. | :32:29. | |
the very concept of the tampon tax, which is to empower | :32:30. | :32:36. | |
and offer equality and this charity It refers to abortion | :32:37. | :32:39. | |
as the death penalty, I understand their website has been | :32:40. | :32:44. | |
taken down this morning, which does have | :32:45. | :32:51. | |
that comment on there. And equally the tampon tax fund | :32:52. | :32:54. | |
was about empowering women. It is quite ironic that this | :32:55. | :32:57. | |
is a tax that women pay for their own biology | :32:58. | :33:03. | |
which has then been awarded, and, in fact, it is one | :33:04. | :33:07. | |
of the biggest awards to a charity that takes | :33:08. | :33:10. | |
choice away from women. Ann Scanlon, ?250,000, | :33:11. | :33:13. | |
it is one of the biggest awards. It will be spent directly | :33:14. | :33:16. | |
on helping women, and I mean some of the most | :33:17. | :33:20. | |
vulnerable women in our society. This is going to be used | :33:21. | :33:28. | |
in our west London area where we deal with asylum seekers, | :33:29. | :33:31. | |
women who are fleeing domestic violence, women who have been | :33:32. | :33:33. | |
trafficked into this country I am really surprised | :33:34. | :33:36. | |
by this outcry. Surely, if we really do | :33:37. | :33:38. | |
truly believe in choice, surely women must have | :33:39. | :33:44. | |
more than one choice. We give ?10 million every year | :33:45. | :33:46. | |
to the abortion industry, and we are saying that ?250,000 | :33:47. | :33:51. | |
spread over three years is too much to help women who perhaps wants | :33:52. | :33:54. | |
to carry on with their pregnancies. Yes, we are a pro-life organisation. | :33:55. | :33:58. | |
We are very transparent about that. Our application for the money | :33:59. | :34:00. | |
made that absolutely clear. But it doesn't in any way | :34:01. | :34:04. | |
influence the fact that what we want to do | :34:05. | :34:06. | |
is open choices for women. The women who come to us | :34:07. | :34:09. | |
all say they feel they have got to have an abortion | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
because they feel they have no choice, and we don't want | :34:15. | :34:17. | |
any woman to be in that position. So when you say they come | :34:18. | :34:20. | |
to you wanting an abortion... No, they come to us looking | :34:21. | :34:22. | |
for help, But when they go to | :34:23. | :34:24. | |
abortion providers, there is actually | :34:25. | :34:28. | |
only one thing on offer. When they come to us, of course, | :34:29. | :34:29. | |
any woman who comes to us is free to go and have an abortion, | :34:30. | :34:33. | |
but should she want to keep her baby, we can offer | :34:34. | :34:35. | |
practical help and support. We are one of the largest providers | :34:36. | :34:38. | |
of supported accommodation for pregnant women and new mums | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
with their babies. And this money will be specifically | :34:43. | :34:44. | |
spent on that and not campaigning? Absolutely. | :34:45. | :34:47. | |
How can you guarantee that? I myself am involved in the | :34:48. | :34:48. | |
advocacy side of the organisation. 90% of what we do is direct | :34:49. | :34:54. | |
hands-on help for women. Even our campaign. | :34:55. | :35:03. | |
We do education work in schools. We have reached the stage | :35:04. | :35:05. | |
where the entire pro-life voice Surely people need to know both | :35:06. | :35:07. | |
sides of the debate. That is not what we | :35:08. | :35:11. | |
are dealing with here. We are dealing with hands-on help | :35:12. | :35:13. | |
for women, vulnerable women. I think if you were | :35:14. | :35:17. | |
truly pro-choice, Paula Sheriff, do you accept this | :35:18. | :35:19. | |
is about helping vulnerable, It is about hands-on help | :35:20. | :35:25. | |
and not about campaigning? I spoke to one of Ann's colleagues | :35:26. | :35:29. | |
on BBC Radio last night, We put the question to her that | :35:30. | :35:32. | |
should one of those women who came to their organisation then decide | :35:33. | :35:38. | |
to go on and have an abortion, her colleague wasn't actually able | :35:39. | :35:43. | |
to tell me what would happen She basically said the housing | :35:44. | :35:45. | |
and support wouldn't be available It is not true to say that | :35:46. | :35:55. | |
other organisations, including the British Pregnancy | :35:56. | :35:58. | |
Advisory Service and other such charities do not offer | :35:59. | :36:00. | |
a range of services. That absolutely isn't true. | :36:01. | :36:02. | |
I've met them myself. They do of course offer abortion | :36:03. | :36:06. | |
counselling, but they also offer the other options available, | :36:07. | :36:09. | |
and that is why I am pro-choice. It is about offering | :36:10. | :36:11. | |
women the choice It is 2017, | :36:12. | :36:13. | |
and a website that refers which may be in very traumatic cases | :36:14. | :36:18. | |
including rape, including sexual assault, | :36:19. | :36:22. | |
is referred to as the death penalty. If someone faces losing a home | :36:23. | :36:28. | |
that you are offering them, if they then | :36:29. | :36:30. | |
decide they want an abortion, that is not giving | :36:31. | :36:32. | |
them a free choice. We support women. | :36:33. | :36:34. | |
Every woman that comes to us. No, we are not abortion providers, | :36:35. | :36:36. | |
and we talk about BPAS. BPAS don't hold a woman's | :36:37. | :36:39. | |
hand for nine months should she want to carry | :36:40. | :36:41. | |
on with the pregnancy. and decided they did | :36:42. | :36:43. | |
ultimately want an abortion? that is probably the majority | :36:44. | :36:47. | |
of the women that we see. Lots of women who come to us | :36:48. | :36:51. | |
will end up having abortions, and the last thing we say to them | :36:52. | :36:54. | |
when they leave is, "Please, whatever decision you make, | :36:55. | :36:57. | |
please know that you are welcome to come back and speak | :36:58. | :36:59. | |
to us at any time." Many of those women do come back | :37:00. | :37:02. | |
to us, and it's actually the stories we hear in the counselling room | :37:03. | :37:05. | |
about women who felt railroaded down the abortion | :37:06. | :37:08. | |
route who are often very, Actually, that is what firmly | :37:09. | :37:10. | |
made up my mind that abortion is not | :37:11. | :37:13. | |
in a woman's best interest. as to what would happen | :37:14. | :37:15. | |
if somebody wanted an abortion. She says the majority do end up | :37:16. | :37:19. | |
going off and having an abortion. But it is absolutely clear | :37:20. | :37:24. | |
from what she is saying that those women would therefore not be offered | :37:25. | :37:27. | |
the housing, support and any other If they are going off and having | :37:28. | :37:30. | |
a termination, they don't obviously | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
need that support. They may still need support, | :37:34. | :37:34. | |
absolutely. In fact as much | :37:35. | :37:36. | |
as any of the other women. Sorry, this is specifically | :37:37. | :37:40. | |
about giving support to vulnerable pregnant women who don't have | :37:41. | :37:44. | |
someone else to live. If they decide they are having | :37:45. | :37:46. | |
a termination, they don't specifically need | :37:47. | :37:48. | |
that support from this charity. But it isn't true suggest that only | :37:49. | :37:51. | |
the charity can offer that support. but doesn't the same apply | :37:52. | :37:55. | |
to a lot of charities? This money is being spread | :37:56. | :38:00. | |
among 70 different charities. I am not here to talk | :38:01. | :38:07. | |
about whether abortion It is every woman's decision | :38:08. | :38:11. | |
to make that choice But my issue is with the Government | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
giving money to an organisation which is pro-life, which takes | :38:17. | :38:22. | |
the choice away from women. It is clear that Life charity do not | :38:23. | :38:30. | |
offer women who approach them There are many more causes | :38:31. | :38:33. | |
which would have been better, which would have | :38:34. | :38:40. | |
received this money. I held a debate last week | :38:41. | :38:42. | |
in the Houses of Parliament WE're hearing about schoolgirls | :38:43. | :38:44. | |
playing truant from school because they don't have | :38:45. | :38:49. | |
sanitary protection They didn't receive any money | :38:50. | :38:51. | |
as a result of the tampon tax fund. Surely something like that | :38:52. | :38:55. | |
would have been a much better I want to get Ann Scanlon's | :38:56. | :38:58. | |
reaction to that. Absolutely. They would absolutely | :38:59. | :39:01. | |
have been deserving. Is Paula suggesting | :39:02. | :39:03. | |
that they applied and didn't get it? Really, we cannot | :39:04. | :39:06. | |
have a situation... and we were very clear about | :39:07. | :39:09. | |
how that money would be used. Period poverty, | :39:10. | :39:15. | |
absolutely it is a worthy cause. And really somebody should have | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
helped those people There was ?12 million being given | :39:21. | :39:22. | |
to help vulnerable women, and I believe that we do | :39:23. | :39:27. | |
that every day. It is up to the Government | :39:28. | :39:37. | |
to explain exactly what the criteria was for awarding money | :39:38. | :39:40. | |
from the tampon tax fund. I know from the feedback I received | :39:41. | :39:42. | |
just in the last 24 hours, and I have received hundreds | :39:43. | :39:45. | |
of emails, only literally four or five emails out of those hundreds | :39:46. | :39:48. | |
actually supported the campaign that Life were running, and the vast | :39:49. | :39:50. | |
majority of women, and let's not forget it is the women contributing | :39:51. | :39:53. | |
to the tampon tax fund from sanitary products they provide, | :39:54. | :39:56. | |
were firmly opposed to this measure. So you are saying that | :39:57. | :39:59. | |
you want clarity Absolutely, and I will be asking | :40:00. | :40:01. | |
the Government to rescind the money | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
that they are giving to Life. Is there a mechanism to do that? | :40:05. | :40:07. | |
I don't know. Obviously, when I return | :40:08. | :40:10. | |
to Parliament, I will be making | :40:11. | :40:12. | |
those inquiries urgently. How do you react to that | :40:13. | :40:13. | |
if the money were taken back? I can't imagine why it would be, | :40:14. | :40:17. | |
because we were absolutely transparent about how the money | :40:18. | :40:21. | |
would be used and when they analysed the help and support | :40:22. | :40:24. | |
they were going to give to women, I think it would be outrageous | :40:25. | :40:27. | |
if it was removed. I really cannot believe in a country | :40:28. | :40:30. | |
that spends ?10 million on abortion, we are suggesting that a quarter | :40:31. | :40:34. | |
of a million pounds is too much to help women who might | :40:35. | :40:37. | |
want to keep their children. Final thought, Paula Sheriff, | :40:38. | :40:40. | |
on the overall policy? You initially wanted | :40:41. | :40:43. | |
an end to the tampon tax. Overall, if it is doing good, | :40:44. | :40:46. | |
are you happy to see it continue? Obviously, our objective | :40:47. | :40:50. | |
is to have the tampon tax cancelled so sanitary products are not | :40:51. | :40:53. | |
considered as luxury items. While there is still a tax | :40:54. | :40:55. | |
on sanitary protection, it is absolutely right | :40:56. | :40:57. | |
that the money should not go into the Treasury, and it should be | :40:58. | :41:01. | |
used for good causes, but like I say we need to understand | :41:02. | :41:05. | |
what the Government's criteria is for awarding that money, | :41:06. | :41:08. | |
because I do not believe that giving money to a charity that does not | :41:09. | :41:11. | |
provide choice is the right idea. Paula Sheriff, Ann Scanlon, | :41:12. | :41:17. | |
thank you very much. A Department for Culture, | :41:18. | :41:24. | |
Media and Sport spokesperson told us are benefiting from this | :41:25. | :41:27. | |
year's tampon tax fund. They said, "Life has been awarded | :41:28. | :41:31. | |
?250,000 to fund a specific project in West London that will help | :41:32. | :41:36. | |
homeless and other at-risk women who are pregnant | :41:37. | :41:38. | |
by providing housing, counselling and | :41:39. | :41:42. | |
life-skills training." For years, it has been rumoured that | :41:43. | :41:56. | |
somebody has been going out late at night correcting bad punctuation on | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
Bristol shop fronts. The self-proclaimed grammar vigilantes | :42:01. | :42:03. | |
goes out in the dead of night, correcting street signs and shop | :42:04. | :42:06. | |
fronts where apostrophes are in the wrong place. Jon Kay met him. | :42:07. | :42:20. | |
This is just wrong, it's not meant to be like this. | :42:21. | :42:49. | |
I do think it's a cause worth pursuing. | :42:50. | :43:03. | |
I have felt extremely nervous, my heart has been thumping. | :43:04. | :43:30. | |
Gibraltar is insisting it won't be used as a bargaining chip | :43:31. | :43:33. | |
in negotiations about Britain's exit from the European Union. | :43:34. | :43:35. | |
The EU's guidelines on the Brexit talks suggest that Spain, | :43:36. | :43:38. | |
which claims sovereignty over the territory, | :43:39. | :43:39. | |
could be able to veto future decisions that affect it. | :43:40. | :43:45. | |
The UK Government is rejecting that | :43:46. | :43:46. | |
and says it's committed to the territory. | :43:47. | :43:49. | |
Meanwhile, the Spanish Foreign Minister | :43:50. | :43:55. | |
has urged people not to lose tempers over the issue. | :43:56. | :43:57. | |
Speaking to reporters in Luxembourg in the last hour, | :43:58. | :43:59. | |
the Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, | :44:00. | :44:01. | |
has reiterated that the sovereignty of Gibraltar is non-negotiable. | :44:02. | :44:03. | |
Well, I think the position of the Government is very clear, | :44:04. | :44:07. | |
which is that the sovereignty of Gibraltar is unchanged, | :44:08. | :44:09. | |
and it is not going to change, and cannot conceivably change | :44:10. | :44:12. | |
without the express support and consent of the people of Gibraltar, | :44:13. | :44:17. | |
and the United Kingdom, and that is not going to change. | :44:18. | :44:20. | |
Marlene Hassan Nahon is an independent member | :44:21. | :44:26. | |
She joins me via webcam from Gibraltar. | :44:27. | :44:35. | |
How do you are act to all of this? Good morning! Well, we always knew | :44:36. | :44:43. | |
that Brexit was going to be a nightmare for Gibraltar, that is why | :44:44. | :44:48. | |
we were the one centre that voted overwhelmingly to remain. What we | :44:49. | :44:53. | |
didn't expect was this clause 22, whether EU council has accepted the | :44:54. | :44:59. | |
argument by Spain that Gibraltar should be singled out for separate | :45:00. | :45:04. | |
treatment. Now, we know that Spain has a BDO, but then Suso the other | :45:05. | :45:12. | |
26 member states. -- has a veto, but then so do the other 26 member | :45:13. | :45:16. | |
states. But what is worrying is that Spain has shown its cards in terms | :45:17. | :45:20. | |
of wanting to have a say over any future deals, which is something | :45:21. | :45:25. | |
that the UK needs to factor in in terms of their exit package. | :45:26. | :45:32. | |
You said you always knew that Brexit would be a nightmare for Gibraltar. | :45:33. | :45:41. | |
96% of people in gi bratter voted Remain, but a higher percentage of | :45:42. | :45:46. | |
people in Gibraltar want to remain part of the UK. So, under the | :45:47. | :45:54. | |
auspices of the UK. So how do you square those two things with Brexit? | :45:55. | :46:00. | |
Well, it is very difficult. And we had the EU under Secretary of State | :46:01. | :46:05. | |
coming over to speak to us and we made it clear that this could happen | :46:06. | :46:10. | |
and this could be a real crit and Spain could start being the | :46:11. | :46:14. | |
belligerent neighbour to the north that she has been historically and | :46:15. | :46:17. | |
this is why we have been lobbying and trying to explain to the United | :46:18. | :46:22. | |
Kingdom that it has to be very clear that the deal has to include the | :46:23. | :46:28. | |
best interests of Gibraltar. We have a land frontier with Spain which is | :46:29. | :46:32. | |
an access to Europe and we need to know what the frontier is free | :46:33. | :46:39. | |
flowing and that moving forward the directives and any deal going | :46:40. | :46:44. | |
forward will be favourable to Gibraltar in terms of European | :46:45. | :46:51. | |
working with Europe and collaborating and an ex-clues of | :46:52. | :46:54. | |
deals relating to trade and aviation is something that we need Britain to | :46:55. | :47:00. | |
fight our corner for. So this is the question now, will Britain be | :47:01. | :47:06. | |
willing to come roe mice on deals? Will they be ready derailed in the | :47:07. | :47:12. | |
process for the rest of the UK in favour of Gibraltar? This is what we | :47:13. | :47:19. | |
need to be fighting now and I understand Lord Howard's comments | :47:20. | :47:21. | |
over the weekend. I know that talking about war is a ril bit | :47:22. | :47:29. | |
upping the stakes, but I'm grateful that as a British ex-leader and | :47:30. | :47:36. | |
friend of Gibraltar he has made it very clear that the Britons would go | :47:37. | :47:40. | |
to war for us. It doesn't mean that we are going to have a war, but to | :47:41. | :47:43. | |
feel that love from the United Kingdom is a very good sign for gi | :47:44. | :47:48. | |
bratter because we can see they are committed to our cause and to the | :47:49. | :47:50. | |
difficulties that we face at this present time. | :47:51. | :47:56. | |
Let's listen to the Spanish Foreign Minister who has been speaking in | :47:57. | :48:00. | |
the past few minutes. TRANSLATION: It is not the Spanish | :48:01. | :48:04. | |
Government's job to respond to each and every comment by any British | :48:05. | :48:10. | |
politician past or present. In any case, the Spanish Government | :48:11. | :48:16. | |
is a little surprised by the tone of comments regarding Gibraltar coming | :48:17. | :48:20. | |
out of Britain which is a country known for its composure. | :48:21. | :48:27. | |
Calm down everyone is effectively the message from Spain. How do you | :48:28. | :48:31. | |
react to that? Yeah, it is very easy for them to say calm down, but they | :48:32. | :48:38. | |
made it very, they made very sure to have manipulated the EU council to | :48:39. | :48:47. | |
write a separate clause just which involves Spain and the United | :48:48. | :48:50. | |
Kingdom. So, of course, they can be calm. They can be calm because they | :48:51. | :48:55. | |
don't have the worries that the Gibraltarians have and they still | :48:56. | :48:59. | |
remain in the European Union. So, effectively, one could say that they | :49:00. | :49:02. | |
have the upper hand. We're leaving and they are staying and as a member | :49:03. | :49:07. | |
state, they will do their best clearly, we have seen already, early | :49:08. | :49:11. | |
on, to let us know that they want to have the upper hand. So, of course, | :49:12. | :49:15. | |
it is easy for them to be cool, but it is not so easy for us to be cool | :49:16. | :49:20. | |
when we're trying to negotiate our future. The way that the | :49:21. | :49:26. | |
Gibraltarians are looking are opposites, one to the UK, the other | :49:27. | :49:31. | |
to the EU. If there are no special terms for Gibraltar, which way do | :49:32. | :49:36. | |
you jump because of all of the economic concerns around freedom of | :49:37. | :49:40. | |
movement and the other economic issues arising from Brexit? Well, I | :49:41. | :49:46. | |
know that Theresa May, the British Government have been saying no, no | :49:47. | :49:54. | |
deal is better than a bad deal. We like to count ourselves in that. A | :49:55. | :49:59. | |
bad deal with Spain would be very bad for Gibraltarment so we would | :50:00. | :50:02. | |
hope that the UK will stick up for us and prefer to have no deal than a | :50:03. | :50:08. | |
bad deal for Gibraltar. In that basket of negotiations. But, of | :50:09. | :50:14. | |
course, you know, there is a lot of negotiations to continue happening. | :50:15. | :50:17. | |
Let's just remember that this is just a draft and you know, there is | :50:18. | :50:24. | |
no reason to worry in the sense that there are 26 other member states | :50:25. | :50:30. | |
which I hope will be more humane towards Gibraltar, more reasonable | :50:31. | :50:36. | |
towards Gibraltar and will want to help Gibraltar and an exiting UK to | :50:37. | :50:40. | |
secure a good deal moving forward for the sake of a collaborative | :50:41. | :50:45. | |
future for the Gibraltarians. So I remain optimistic and I also think | :50:46. | :50:53. | |
that Spain, by playing this card so early on, has almost let us all know | :50:54. | :50:57. | |
what they, you know, what they're planning or what they're after and | :50:58. | :51:02. | |
perhaps that will give us more time to foster better negotiations and | :51:03. | :51:07. | |
terms looking forward. Marlene Hassan Nahon Thank you very | :51:08. | :51:10. | |
much. Thank you. | :51:11. | :51:17. | |
Lauren has been in touch over the financial difficulties for care | :51:18. | :51:20. | |
leavers. She says, "A degree of responsibility is needed. I was | :51:21. | :51:24. | |
homeless at 16 and yes, you was helped with benefits whilst still in | :51:25. | :51:27. | |
high school, but you are forced to cope in that situation. At 18 I was | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
given a council flat and I researched ways of dealing with | :51:32. | :51:34. | |
bills. There are more than just care leavers needing help. I was forced | :51:35. | :51:38. | |
to pay council tax within my rent to the hostel. Driving my monthly rent | :51:39. | :51:43. | |
up to ?706 for a room, bathroom and shared kitchen, that's hard and I | :51:44. | :51:46. | |
was still in full-time accommodation. I learned the hard | :51:47. | :51:50. | |
way, scrimp and save and don't splurge on anything. I have never | :51:51. | :51:55. | |
been on holiday. This move should be means-tested and more education | :51:56. | :51:58. | |
needs to be put in place within our schools. It should not be the | :51:59. | :52:03. | |
State's fault if one cannot learn how to handle one's finances." | :52:04. | :52:08. | |
Thank you very much, Lauren and keep all of your comments coming in on | :52:09. | :52:09. | |
that and everything else. Now, he's an 11-year-old | :52:10. | :52:13. | |
boy from Nottingham, but last night he became a world | :52:14. | :52:15. | |
record holder when he became the youngest person | :52:16. | :52:18. | |
to conduct an orchestra. Matthew Smith led the 75 piece | :52:19. | :52:19. | |
Nottingham Symphony orchestra through the overture | :52:20. | :52:22. | |
to Johann Strauss's operetta Die Fledermaus, | :52:23. | :52:26. | |
entirely from memory. In a moment we'll speak to Matthew | :52:27. | :52:27. | |
but first let's take MUSIC: Die Fledermaus | :52:28. | :52:30. | |
composed by Johann Strauss. I'm pleased to say that Matthew | :52:31. | :53:15. | |
joins us now with his mum We're also joined by his music | :53:16. | :53:20. | |
teacher Derek Williams. Thank you for joining us. Matthew, | :53:21. | :53:25. | |
what was it like doing that? Very exciting. And you knew it all from | :53:26. | :53:30. | |
memory. How long did it take you to learn it? Not that long. | :53:31. | :53:37. | |
I already, because I already had like it in my head so it want really | :53:38. | :53:44. | |
that hard to remember it. You're a remarkable 11-year-old boy. When did | :53:45. | :53:47. | |
you decide that's what you wanted to do? Well, I first I never really | :53:48. | :53:54. | |
wanted to conduct until, well, I never really knew what it was until | :53:55. | :54:02. | |
Derek, one day he told me to learn this piece. He was playing the same | :54:03. | :54:13. | |
piece that I played yesterday, the Die Fledermaus and he told me to | :54:14. | :54:17. | |
learn it and he gave me a lesson, but on the lesson I knew the song | :54:18. | :54:21. | |
since I learnt it from memory. We'll talk to Derek in a moment. I want to | :54:22. | :54:27. | |
bring in your mum. You got him involved, didn't you, in the whole | :54:28. | :54:34. | |
situation, to help your son. Tell us what the role was of Derek and what | :54:35. | :54:44. | |
you did? Matthew said he was interested in playing the violin and | :54:45. | :54:48. | |
because I work at the high school and there is music teachers there, | :54:49. | :54:53. | |
but I just went over to the music department and I didn't know what | :54:54. | :54:58. | |
happened, I just chose Derek to teach Matthew and there was other | :54:59. | :55:03. | |
music teachers there, but I chose Derek and from there Derek just | :55:04. | :55:08. | |
said, his first lesson, he said he never seen anyone like this before | :55:09. | :55:20. | |
from many years of teaching. So we kept pushing Matthew to do more. So | :55:21. | :55:25. | |
She told you about her boy and when you met him, what did you think? | :55:26. | :55:29. | |
Well, I could tell how much talent he had just really the first lesson. | :55:30. | :55:34. | |
I put all the, all his fingers on the string, which you don't normally | :55:35. | :55:39. | |
do in the first lesson. I gave him a bow, the violin itself wasn't great, | :55:40. | :55:48. | |
but he had this ability of finding the best notes. You don't get | :55:49. | :55:53. | |
seven-year-olds doing that. How would you describe his talent? | :55:54. | :55:57. | |
Outstanding. I haven't come across a talent like his more about 30 years. | :55:58. | :56:02. | |
Music comes out of every pore of his body. And chance that he came to | :56:03. | :56:06. | |
you. Could that talent have been overlooked? Oh yeah, easily. We | :56:07. | :56:14. | |
don't know how many more Matthew Smiths' there are in the country. | :56:15. | :56:18. | |
There isn't the opportunity for the children now a days. Matthew, what | :56:19. | :56:25. | |
do you want to do in the end? I don't know because I might want to | :56:26. | :56:31. | |
carry on keep on doing my music career or I might want to change and | :56:32. | :56:34. | |
do something else. Leave music completely? Pardon? I won't leave it | :56:35. | :56:45. | |
completely because I would like to keep on playing my vio listen and I | :56:46. | :56:49. | |
might join an orchestra and I will keep on playing my guitar and my | :56:50. | :56:54. | |
other instruments in a band. I won't leave it at all though. | :56:55. | :57:00. | |
How do you feel when Derek says that you're an exceptional talent. He | :57:01. | :57:04. | |
hasn't seen a seven-year-old as you were when you first went to him in | :57:05. | :57:08. | |
his entire 30 years of teaching music? I feel like, well, I feel | :57:09. | :57:17. | |
that he knows I have a great talent and he has pushed me to do lots of | :57:18. | :57:24. | |
different stuff because you've done Grade 8 scales, because he keeps on | :57:25. | :57:30. | |
pushing me to do different things at different times. How proud are you | :57:31. | :57:34. | |
of your son? Very, very proud of him. Happy for him as well and I'm, | :57:35. | :57:44. | |
I do owe Derek a lot for what he has done for Matthew and I'm grateful | :57:45. | :57:48. | |
for the opportunity that he gave to Matthew. Well, really good luck in | :57:49. | :57:53. | |
your career, Matthew. That's an extraordinary thing to be saying to | :57:54. | :57:57. | |
an 11-year-old boy, you know where you're going. Good luck with | :57:58. | :57:59. | |
everything and thank you very much for joining us. Thank you. | :58:00. | :58:01. | |
You're welcome, thank you. We are about out of time. But we | :58:02. | :58:10. | |
have had so many comments from you an Ashley's report on care. You can | :58:11. | :58:14. | |
see that whole report again on our programme page if you would like to | :58:15. | :58:20. | |
see it. A very powerful personal report by Ashley today about the | :58:21. | :58:24. | |
difficulties for kids leaving care. BBC Newsroom live is coming up. | :58:25. | :58:27. | |
Thank you for your company. I will see you soon. Victoria is back | :58:28. | :58:28. | |
tomorrow. Every two minutes, someone in | :58:29. | :58:34. | |
Britain is reported missing. You feel helpless. Like, | :58:35. | :58:40. | |
"Where do I go? Where do I start?" | :58:41. | :58:44. |