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Hello. Good morning, it is Wednesday, it's 9am. I'm Victoria

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Derbyshire. 72 dead, 20 of them children in a suspected chemical

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attack in north-west Syria. The pictures of dead and dying children

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are almost impossible to look at. What can be done, if anything?

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I lost my son, my children, my neighbours, my daughter. They're all

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gone. I only have got left... We will be live on the ground where it

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happened and we'll ask whether the attack was carried out on the orders

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of the Syrian president? Also on the programme, in an exclusive interview

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a mum whose violent and abusive ex is subject to the first ever court

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order forcing him to tell authorities if he gets a new

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girlfriend tells us she hopes it will protect other women. No matter

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how much fear you have and no match how much blackmailing and

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intimidation you go for it, because if people judge you and you keep

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believing what your abuser is saying, at the end you're going to

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lose yourself and somehow, you can lose your life.

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We will bring you the full exclusive interview shortly. An investigation

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by this programme and the Asian Network discover the Muslim women

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paying to marry, have sex with and then divorce a stranger so that they

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can get with their first husband. It is very, very regularment so all the

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time. A lot of people are under the impression that the marriage is

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over. So as far as are' concerned it is against the religion? It is

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forbidden. Hello and welcome to the programme.

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We're live until 11am. We'll bring you the latest breaking

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news and developing stories. A little later we'll hear how

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various politicians are working together to try and stop benefit

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changes which will leave some bereaved spouses

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and children worse off. It follows our interview with a man

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called Alan yesterday who has He told us his wife would be better

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off if he died today Do get in touch on all the stories

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we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

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and If you text, you will be charged The UN Security Council will hold

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an emergency session later to discuss a suspected chemical

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attack in Syria which is reported to have killed at least 72 people,

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many of them children. The US has accused the Assad regime

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of "barbarism" and joined Britain and France in calling

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on the United Nations to order The Syrian government denies

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using chemical weapons and Russia claims that a rebel arms

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store was hit. You may find images

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in Sarah Corker's report upsetting. Hundreds of innocent Syrians,

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including many children, struggling to breathe

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after a suspected chemical Distressing images and evidence that

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will no doubt dominate emergency talks held by the UN

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Security Council later today. Global leaders have called

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for a rapid investigation Some of the injured were treated

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across the border in Turkey. Medics wore face masks to protect

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themselves from the toxic gases. TRANSLATION: We were

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affected by the gas. We couldn't stand up.

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I felt dizzy and sick. I suffered from shortness of breath.

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I couldn't breathe. This apparent chemical strike

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on a rebel held town has brought The US, Britain and France have

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all blamed the Syrian I'm appalled by the reports that

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there's been a chemical weapons and attack on a town south of Idlib,

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allegedly by the Syrian regime. We condemn the use of chemical

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weapons in all circumstances. If proven, this will be further

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evidence of the barbarism Using chemical weapons

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is a war crime. President Assad's regime denied

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launching Tuesday's attack, echoing denials it has made over

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the course of Syria's And just as doctors were treating

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those who survived, the hospital The attack will overshadow

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an international conference in Brussels later, discussing aid

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effort in Syria. Thousands of civilians

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are still trapped by fighting. What effective action can

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the international community now take What can the international community

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do? Well, this is a summit that was called to focus as the title says on

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the future of Syria, but time and again these world leaders are being

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forced to the very punishing present reality of the Syrian conflict and

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right behind me in the last hour, one after another, world leaders

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went by issuing a strongly worded condemnation of this latest atrocity

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in Syria and another alleged war crime. And warning of a price to

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pay, but as always, what will be the price when the Foreign Secretary

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Boris Johnson passed by here, I asked him for his reaction to the

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alleged war crime. I have seen nothing to suggest or

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rather to lead us to think that it is anything but the regime and all

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the evidence I have and there maybe more to come out of this by the way,

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all the evidence I have seen REPORTER: What have you seen? All

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the evidence that I have seen suggests that this was the Assad

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regime who did it in the full knowledge that they were using

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illegal weapons in a barbaric attack on their own people. I would like to

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see those culpable pay a price for this.

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REPORTER: What is the price? That's been said time and time again. I

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certainly do not see how a Government like that can continue to

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have any kind of legitimate administration of the people of

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Syria. Thank you very much. Another warning of a price to pay,

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but it is Syrian civilians, including Syrian children, who are

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paying the heaviest price of all in this conflict. The arguments about

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who carried out the attack and today and later today in New York, world

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powers will argue about what is to be done. When the UN secretary

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general went by I asked him whether it was a defining moment for the

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international community. He has called it a moment of truth.

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The last time there was a big chemical attack on Syrian civilians,

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the then president of the US, President Obama, called it a red

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line. It wasn't, nothing really happened to President Assad. So,

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practically, what could be done? Is it simply diplomatic sanctions? Is

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it economic sanctions? What? Well we'll just go back to the summer of

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2013 when the British Parliament voted not to take military action in

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Syria and that played a role in then President Obama's decision also not

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to use military strikes in order to punish President Assad for the

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chemical attack in 2013 which let's remind our viewers killed 1,000

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people and was confirmed to be the use of the illegal chemical which is

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sarin gas so we're back at the same place again with the world community

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discussing whether another red line has been crossed. Nobody, no

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country, wants to including Britain, wants to send more forces to fight

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another war in Syria. So they have to look at what kind of military

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pressure is possible, what kind of sanctions are available, but first

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of all, they have to conclude, give decisive proof as to who carried out

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this attack, what were the consequences of it, and what within

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all the tools available to the international community can be the

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consequences for those who carried it out? And this is a big attack,

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but I have come back from spending two weeks in Syria and on an almost

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daily basis there are accusations that a use of chemicals or

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chancellor reen gas is used somewhere at some time in Syria.

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Sometimes we notice them and sometimes we don't and today we're

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noticing them. Thank you very much Lyse.

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Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

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A woman whose former partner has been convicted

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of domestic violence offences and has been ordered to inform

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police about every new relationship he enters into hopes that the court

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Under the seven-year Criminal Behaviour Order,

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Kylle Godfrey must inform police if he is in a relationship

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Scotland Yard says it's the first time that a court order has been

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used to protect victims of domestic abuse.

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This programme will be speaking exclusively

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to Kylle's former partner, Shira.

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are charging "divorced" Muslim women thousands of pounds to take part

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in so-called "halala" Islamic marriages -

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an investigation by this programme and the Asian Network has found

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In reality they are sham marriage where women pay to marry,

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have sex with and then divorce a stranger, so they can get back

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with their first husbands - often leaving women open

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to financial exploitation, blackmail and even sexual abuse.

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A child has suffered life-threatening injuries

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The attack happened in Chatham yesterday afternoon.

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Two people have been arrested over the incident and the dog

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The Prime Minister has indicated that free movement of EU citizens

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across British frontiers may need to continue in some

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Theresa May explained that while immigration would be under

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British control from the moment the UK left the EU, there would need

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The European Parliament will vote later today on a resolution laying

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out the terms it believes the EU must demand during

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It says the UK must honour its financial liabilities and abide

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by EU standards if it wants to maintain a close trading

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Within the past few minutes, Nigel Farage has been addressing

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members of the European Parliament where he was quickly

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You're behaving like the Mafia. You think we're a hostage. We're not.

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We're free to go. 85, no, I know, I know, I do understand...

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I do understand... TRANSLATION: Sorry Mr Farage.

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Listen, I will try and give you the chance to speak and say everything

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you want to say. If you talk about the Mafia and say this Parliament is

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behaving like the Mafia, that's not acceptable.

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APPLAUSE No, I downed stand... I do

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understand, sir, Mr President, I do understand national sensitivities

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and I'll change it to gangsters, all right? And that is how, that is how

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we're being treated. That's a summary of the latest BBC

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News - more at 9.30am. Manchester United are still

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unbeaten, but they'll be worried about finishing

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in the top four now. They drew 1-1 with Everton at Old

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Trafford. I'm sure fans will be worried about that. Here is one of

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the goals that you don't expect to see from an Everton defender.

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Phil Jagielka Look at this touch to put them 1-0 up. Ashley Williams was

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given a red card for handball. Manchester United equalised by a

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penalty. For Manchester United fans I guess it is whether you consider

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your glass half empty or half full. Half the matches have been draws and

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they are four points off fourth place, and they will be worried

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about the fourth qualification spot for the Champions League.

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What's the latest with David Moyes and Sunderland after controversial

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comments earlier this week to a female reporter.

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He threatened to slap a female reporter during an interview. The FA

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chairman Greg Clarke has come out to criticise David Moyes. Clarke said

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it was regrettable and disTAsful and showed a complete lack of respect.

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He said it is doubly bad to use such a term to a woman because there is a

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lot of violence against women in society and terms like that just

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aren't disrespectful. This comes after David Moyes was backed by

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Sunderland and problems for Sunderland and David Moyes continued

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on the pitch. They lost 2-0 at Leicester. They're rooted to the

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bottom of the Premier League table and still eight points from safety.

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Republic of Ireland's women's football team

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have threatened to go on strike, what's happened?

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This centres around player treatment. Now a group of the

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players have come out publicly and decided to speak out on the lack of

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support, the lack of finance, and the kind of lack of organisation as

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part of that team. The players have said that some of them en route to

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matches have had to change in public toilets. No way for, you know, an

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elite training environment to take place and they've refused to train

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today unless the governing body, the FAI hold talks with their

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representatives. The FAI have said they're disappointed that players

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would threaten to strike and refuse to play for their country and

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they've made repeated attempts at payment and compensation. Now, the

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players, the team, have a match against Slovakia on Monday, but it

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will be interesting to see if that goes ahead at all Victoria with a

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breakdown of communication between the two at the moment.

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OK, thank you very much, Jess. All This morning - an exclusive

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interview with the mum of two whose violent ex partner is believed to be

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the first person in England and Wales to be subject to a court

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order which means he must tell It's intended to protect

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future victims. Under the seven-year

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criminal behaviour order, Kylle Godfrey must inform police

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if he is in a relationship for more than 14 days,

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officers can then tell new partners about his previous violent

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behaviour under the domestic In an exclusive interview,

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his former partner Shira - who was subjected to brutal attacks

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and controlling behaviour from him over a period of 6 years -

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told us she hopes the order will protect other

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women in the future. The 33 year old - who doesn't want

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us to her full name - moved to this country

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from the Philippines She has two children

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with Godfrey, aged 3 and 4. In her only broadcast interview

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she began by giving her in a way, they said that it would be

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a bit difficult to get it. -- before we got the order, by the way.

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Because we have not got it before. But having the order now, it makes

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me feel more safe and I feel that other women would also be protected

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by this order because basically if he will inform the police if he has

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a new girlfriend, the police would be able to speak to that woman, and

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I think a lot of women out there, not just me, will be protected from

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domestic violence in the future. But it will be up to him to report

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himself to the police to let them know he is in a relationship. Yes,

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it would be up to him but the police said that if he was with someone and

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he did not record it, and the woman called police on him, like I used to

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do before, I used to call the police him numerous times, but I did not go

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to court or press charges, because I kept going back to him. This time,

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they say that they can't prosecute him straightaway for just breaching

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that order. I understand that you were with Kyle Godfrey for six

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years. He regularly would he attack or beat you? -- how regularly. The

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first two years of our relationship, it happened may be for a longer

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period, for example 1-4 months or 1-6 months. It depended on his mood

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or if there was a problem that arise to. But in the latter part of the

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relationship, it was getting more frequent, and I can see that he is

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getting out of control, so I can't monitor it any more, or do not know

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how frequent it is any more. All I remember is that sometimes even

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little things would actually trigger him, and he could just throw

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something on my face. Like if he feels like unhappy, if I may say, so

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that is how it is. But with a six-year relationship, there were a

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few times where I was really injured, and he destroyed my staff,

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leaving me with nothing. Can I ask what kind of things he did to you?

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Punching. He normally punched my chest or the side of my body.

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Sometimes I feel like it is bullying as well because sometimes he would

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do some things in front of me that actually scare me, like lighting a

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lighter with spray, or turning a cooker, and when the alarm goes off

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in the house, I get scared because the cooker gets really hot. Or

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flicking a cigarette in front of me. Or even sometimes it went really bad

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when one time he actually hit me, slapped me really hard and I lost

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consciousness. And instead of him getting me up, he poured cold water

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on me, so I would wake up. And there was an occasion, I think, where he

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smashed your head against the floor. Yes. That was actually the calling

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that I had because I felt like at that moment, when I was dragged into

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the kitchen and he was smashing my head on the floor, like four or five

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times, I can't remember, but that was when I realised, I thought I was

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going to die that time, to be honest with you, Victoria, because no one

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was helping me and he cannot control himself any more. So I just had a

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little prey and I realised that not one deserves to be in that position,

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and my life is more important than this. I feel like if I am going to

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die here, what are people going to say? I lost my life with this

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horrible man? I also thought about my family back home, if something

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happened to me no one would even know. Goodness, that is such a sad

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thought that if something happened to you, you feel your family would

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not find out what he had done to you. Yes, because that's how he

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makes me feel sometimes. Even though I have been in the UK for a few

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years now, and I have children with him, it is like I am still a

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foreigner. It's just sad. Women like me, women out there that are still

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suffering from domestic violence, you only realise when you are in a

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life or death situation. I am here to tell children that they are that

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they should not have to wait to get to that moment because you might not

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be lucky enough to survive it. Because that time, when he saw me

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bleeding, he just stood up and realised what he had done. But what

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if the person will not wake up, or will not stop, and then you end up

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being dead? Was changed in the end? Why did you work with the police to

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bring this man to justice? Because I felt like even though I was the

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victim, I felt like I was the one running away from the police,

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because there are so many things that have been stuck in my mind,

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being in a domestic relationship actually takes away your power. At

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some point you just believe whatever he says, what ever your ex would say

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to you. When there are so many factors, like everything that

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surrounds you, you feel like you should not be doing it, and

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sometimes you feel like you are going to be the bad person, you are

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going to be the bad mother, and you do not want to do that. Thankfully I

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had a very persistent police officer, and she never gave up on

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me. She kept on pushing me, encouragingly, and of course the

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constant calls and letters and e-mails that I received, plus I have

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family support, like my cousin came over, so I have a bit more of that

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push to go to court. In February this year, Godfrey was jailed for

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three years for his violence against you and another woman whilst he was

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on bail. How do you feel about that sentence? Well, that sentence, when

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they did the sentencing I felt relief, because I feel like this is

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it, you know, I was able to go to the end part. And now I can just

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concentrate on moving on. In regards to the other matter, his issues with

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other exes that he has, I cannot really comment about it. But for

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whatever reason, I think just as a woman like me, sometimes you go to

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feel like it is too much and for you it is too enough, and you have to do

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what you have to do, which is to stand yourself. -- stand up for

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yourself. When he is released from jail, if he ends up in another

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relationship is supposed to tell the police about it, that is the

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condition of the order. Do you have faith that he will actually do that?

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I do not think he will do that. But I think he will be more cautious

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about it and this order, I hope, will also give him some thinking

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before he comes -- goes into a relationship. He will have to think

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that him, or even other men, if you cannot treat the woman right and you

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cannot cope with yourself with a person rightfully and humanely, then

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don't go for it. There are other ways for them to go out with a

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woman. But I have experienced being in an intimate relationship triggers

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these issues, and domestic issues, that result in violence, then don't

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go for it. Because now the law has improved in terms of protecting

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women. But my faith with him, I don't think he will report it, but I

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think he will think about it first. You have said that you felt at times

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that you could not escape the relationship with him. I wonder if

:25:58.:26:03.

this order had been imposed when he had met you, how would it have

:26:04.:26:08.

protected you and your children? Well, if this order was placed

:26:09.:26:14.

before me, then I would of course, if the police had talked to me about

:26:15.:26:18.

it, how serious it was before, then maybe it would change more of my

:26:19.:26:27.

life now. But in terms of being in a domestic relationship, sometimes

:26:28.:26:34.

even for myself I cannot explain how I stayed with him that long. Even

:26:35.:26:40.

though there are some people out there like his family, who told me

:26:41.:26:46.

about what happened in his previous relationships, but still you feel

:26:47.:26:49.

like you are in love with the person and the person will change. What

:26:50.:26:55.

would your message be two other victims of domestic abuse who might

:26:56.:26:58.

be watching this interview right now, who may be trapped in such a

:26:59.:27:02.

relationship, frightened to speak out? What would you say to them?

:27:03.:27:15.

Well, I just want to tell them that there is was away to get out of it.

:27:16.:27:21.

It is not going to be easy because at the end of the day you feel like

:27:22.:27:27.

you are out of it, but somehow you were trapped with the memories and

:27:28.:27:31.

the pain that you have gone through. At I hope that they will not wait

:27:32.:27:38.

for them to waste their lives for so many years being with someone that

:27:39.:27:42.

they do not deserve. No one deserves to be in domestic violence. No

:27:43.:27:48.

matter what race you are, where you come from, no matter how long you

:27:49.:27:54.

have been in the country. No one deserves to be in that relationship,

:27:55.:28:01.

especially women with children. They do not deserve to see domestic

:28:02.:28:05.

violence, and I hope that they will come out and stand for it. No matter

:28:06.:28:13.

how much you have and how much intimidation you get, you go for it

:28:14.:28:16.

because at the end of the day, if people judge you and if you keep

:28:17.:28:21.

believing what Europe user is saying, at the end you are going to

:28:22.:28:25.

lose yourself and somehow you can lose your life. All you have to do

:28:26.:28:35.

is just one day wake up and have the strength to run away or turn your

:28:36.:28:39.

back. And just think of the next step, once you are out of the

:28:40.:28:45.

relationship. And don't go back. If you turn your back, don't keep

:28:46.:28:49.

coming back, because the more you come back, the more you put yourself

:28:50.:28:55.

at risk. And you can lose a lot. You can lose your children, you can lose

:28:56.:29:00.

your life, you can lose yourself. Even the smile on your face. That is

:29:01.:29:05.

what I want to tell other women out there. That is such a powerful

:29:06.:29:11.

message from you. Do you feel free now? Yes. I am sorry for crying. I

:29:12.:29:20.

have not tried for so long, in terms of like emotionally. I used to cry

:29:21.:29:27.

when I was with Kyle and now sometimes, I am mostly happy now and

:29:28.:29:33.

I am more peaceful. Victoria, I just want to get this opportunity to tell

:29:34.:29:41.

also people in the position, or people who can actually help these

:29:42.:29:46.

women like I have experienced. Please, we have to help women, not

:29:47.:29:53.

just talking and stuff. We need to push them out of this, they need

:29:54.:29:57.

support. The government should support women, because it was really

:29:58.:30:03.

hard. Sometimes you want to come out but you cannot even go to a refuge,

:30:04.:30:12.

especially like people's corners, because they are not going to

:30:13.:30:17.

respect you if you do not have access to public funds or if you are

:30:18.:30:20.

not a British citizen. Regardless, the government should give more

:30:21.:30:24.

support to women out there so they can go to court and end the

:30:25.:30:27.

proceedings and once and for all move on with their lives. Her

:30:28.:30:38.

ex-partner in is in jail. He is believed to be the first person in

:30:39.:30:42.

England and Wales to be sub to a court order which means he must tell

:30:43.:30:44.

the police if he gets a new girlfriend.

:30:45.:30:56.

If you want to find out help, you can by contacting the BBC's

:30:57.:31:02.

Actionline. Let me read some comments from you. Audrey says,

:31:03.:31:11.

"Bravo to this young lady to help bring this animal to justice." A

:31:12.:31:16.

viewer says, "I experienced domestic violence for 18 years. I'm glad the

:31:17.:31:20.

help is out there for men and women so they don't have to stay with an

:31:21.:31:25.

abuserment I'm so proud of this lady speaking out and I hope it will help

:31:26.:31:29.

others suffering to take back control of their lives."

:31:30.:31:36.

The women who pay thousands to marry, have sex

:31:37.:31:38.

with and then divorce a stranger, so that they can get back

:31:39.:31:41.

After our interview yesterday with Alan -

:31:42.:31:45.

a father of two with terminal cancer - church leaders and politicians

:31:46.:31:51.

have united to say they are going to fight the Government's cuts

:31:52.:31:57.

to support for bereaved parents which come in tomorrow.

:31:58.:32:01.

We'll speak to three of them just after 10am.

:32:02.:32:04.

Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:32:05.:32:07.

The UN Security Council is to hold emergency talks

:32:08.:32:09.

following a suspected chemical attack in Syria - which has left

:32:10.:32:12.

at least 58 people dead, including a number of children.

:32:13.:32:20.

The Assad regime denies using chemical weapons.

:32:21.:32:28.

Russia has blamed the poisoning on the rebels.

:32:29.:32:37.

A woman whose former partner has been convicted

:32:38.:32:39.

of domestic violence offences, and has been ordered to inform

:32:40.:32:42.

police about every new relationship he enters into hopes that the court

:32:43.:32:44.

Under the seven-year criminal behaviour order,

:32:45.:32:49.

Kylle Godfrey must inform police if he is in a relationship

:32:50.:32:51.

Scotland Yard says it's the first time that a court order has been

:32:52.:32:58.

used to protect victims of domestic abuse.

:32:59.:33:05.

A child has suffered life-threatening injuries

:33:06.:33:06.

The attack happened in Chatham yesterday afternoon.

:33:07.:33:10.

Two people have been arrested over the incident and the dog

:33:11.:33:13.

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will attend what's

:33:14.:33:23.

being called "a service of Hope and Reconciliation later",

:33:24.:33:28.

for the victims of the Westminster attack.

:33:29.:33:29.

Around two thousand people are expected to attend the event

:33:30.:33:32.

Families of the victims, faith leaders and representatives

:33:33.:33:35.

from the emergency services will be among the guests.

:33:36.:33:37.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:33:38.:33:39.

Manchester United left it late to earn a draw in last night's

:33:40.:33:47.

Premier League match at home to Everton.

:33:48.:33:52.

The visitors scored in the first-half,

:33:53.:33:54.

but Zlatan Ibrahimovic scored a 94th minute penalty.

:33:55.:33:56.

United are now unbeaten in 20 games but have drawn nine

:33:57.:33:58.

The Football Association chairman Greg Clarke has reportedly described

:33:59.:34:06.

David Moyes' comments to a BBC reporter as "regrettable"

:34:07.:34:08.

Sunderland remain bottom of the Premier League table

:34:09.:34:14.

after a 2-0 loss last night to a resurgent Leicester.

:34:15.:34:19.

Defending champion Heather Watson wasted two match points before

:34:20.:34:21.

eventually winning in three sets at the Monterrey Open

:34:22.:34:24.

The Masters gets underway tomorrow and Danny Willett hopes

:34:25.:34:30.

a return to Augusta can spark a return to form.

:34:31.:34:33.

He has failed to win a tournament since donning

:34:34.:34:35.

That's your headlines. I will be back at 10am.

:34:36.:34:45.

An investigation by this programme and the Asian Network has found that

:34:46.:34:49.

a number of online services are charging "divorced" Muslim women

:34:50.:34:55.

thousands of pounds to take part in what's known as "halala"

:34:56.:34:57.

In reality they are a sham marriage where women pay to marry,

:34:58.:35:04.

have sex with and then divorce a stranger, so they can get back

:35:05.:35:07.

with their first husbands, often leaving women open

:35:08.:35:10.

to financial exploitation, blackmail and even sexual abuse.

:35:11.:35:16.

The controversial practice is believed, by a very small

:35:17.:35:19.

minority of Muslims, to be the only way a divorced woman

:35:20.:35:22.

can get back with her husband after what's known as a triple talaq

:35:23.:35:26.

- that's an instant divorce where a man just needs to say

:35:27.:35:28.

"talaq" three times to his wife in order to divorce her.

:35:29.:35:31.

Athar Ahmad has been investigating for us.

:35:32.:35:40.

I mean, you get ?1,000 for sleeping with a woman in one night.

:35:41.:35:48.

We can go to a hotel or something, and complete that thing.

:35:49.:35:55.

I remember crying all day long, not eating.

:35:56.:36:05.

Three words in a single text message changed her life forever.

:36:06.:36:31.

After being introduced to a potential partner by a family

:36:32.:36:33.

friend when she was in her 20s, she decided to get

:36:34.:36:36.

A few months later the couple were married and planning

:36:37.:36:39.

We have changed her name to protect her identity.

:36:40.:36:43.

What was your relationship with your husband like

:36:44.:36:45.

In the beginning we were struggling to get along with each

:36:46.:36:53.

After my marriage, my in-laws decided I would have

:36:54.:37:02.

So the first year was hard, considerably.

:37:03.:37:06.

She had children with her husband soon after,

:37:07.:37:08.

The first time he was abusive was over money.

:37:09.:37:15.

My parents gave me a lump sum as a wedding present,

:37:16.:37:19.

and he and his parents decided that they wanted it from me,

:37:20.:37:22.

Well, on that occasion he dragged me by my hair through two rooms

:37:23.:37:34.

and tried to throw me out of the house.

:37:35.:37:37.

He has thrown things at me, pulled me by my hair,

:37:38.:37:41.

Slamming me against the wall became so constant, it became a norm.

:37:42.:37:57.

Her husband's behaviour, though, became increasingly unpredictable.

:37:58.:38:01.

Talk me through what happened on the day he divorced you.

:38:02.:38:04.

So I was at home with the children and he was at work, and during

:38:05.:38:07.

a discussion he sent a text, "Talaq, talaq, talaq."

:38:08.:38:09.

My dad said, "Your marriage is over, you cannot go back to him."

:38:10.:38:17.

It's a little-known phrase, triple talaq.

:38:18.:38:18.

If the man says that three times in a row,

:38:19.:38:21.

some Muslims believe that means the marriage is finished,

:38:22.:38:23.

It's banned in most Muslim countries, but still happens,

:38:24.:38:30.

though it is impossible to know how many women are divorced

:38:31.:38:33.

Men sometimes give a triple talaq during an argument or a fight,

:38:34.:38:38.

like in this case, and then later regret it.

:38:39.:38:48.

If you believe in it, it is possible you will also believe in halala.

:38:49.:38:52.

A small minority think it is the only way a divorced couple

:38:53.:38:54.

Halala meets the woman must marry someone else,

:38:55.:38:58.

consummate the marriage and then get a divorce before she is able

:38:59.:39:01.

But arranging a halala marriage is something the vast majority

:39:02.:39:07.

Most imams and clerics said the practice is down to people

:39:08.:39:16.

misunderstanding the laws around divorce and it has nothing to do

:39:17.:39:19.

The Islamic Sharia Council regularly have women dropping in,

:39:20.:39:25.

asking about the finer points of an Islamic divorce.

:39:26.:39:30.

A triple talaq, is that something you accept at the Sharia Council?

:39:31.:39:34.

No, we make it clear that it is not accepted.

:39:35.:39:37.

A lot of people are under the impression the marriage is over,

:39:38.:39:46.

It is harm, it is forbidden, there is no stronger word,

:39:47.:39:56.

But she believes some Muslims have got the wrong idea about divorce,

:39:57.:40:02.

If you are told by your parents, by your imam or your community

:40:03.:40:11.

that the triple talaq is valid, there is no other option.

:40:12.:40:14.

And you have been told the only way you can get back

:40:15.:40:17.

together is through halala, they feel they have no choice.

:40:18.:40:25.

But there are those who are exploiting women's desperation,

:40:26.:40:28.

pushing out halala as a genuine solution, and now it

:40:29.:40:31.

So I have come across a number of different Facebook pages which

:40:32.:40:38.

Most say they will supply a man who is willing to marry a woman,

:40:39.:40:44.

have sex with her and then give her a divorce so she can get

:40:45.:40:48.

So this is from someone who says he is happy to come to the UK

:40:49.:40:52.

and pay for his flights, accommodation and service fees.

:40:53.:40:55.

This other one is asking for our address and how old we are.

:40:56.:40:58.

We then find a UK-based halala service, which says it arranges

:40:59.:41:01.

temporary marriages, and to message them

:41:02.:41:03.

We get in touch with them over Facebook.

:41:04.:41:14.

An undercover reporter posing as a divorced Muslim woman

:41:15.:41:16.

who is looking to get back with her husband.

:41:17.:41:19.

After weeks of talking over Facebook, we finally managed

:41:20.:41:21.

to arrange a meeting and sent our undercover reporter

:41:22.:41:23.

At this stage we have no idea who the person behind

:41:24.:41:27.

It could be someone messing around online, or it could be someone

:41:28.:41:34.

The man behind the account turns up, tells us he has been busy

:41:35.:41:42.

He has a number of other men working with him,

:41:43.:41:46.

all of whom carry out the halala service for a fee.

:41:47.:41:49.

For you, I contacted three guys, in their 40s.

:41:50.:42:01.

They will take 5,000, and they want to keep it

:42:02.:42:08.

Do you have an idea of which mosque in the UK?

:42:09.:42:25.

I will go and see the people, see a few imams, who will do it easily.

:42:26.:42:31.

The man then offers to carry out the halala service himself,

:42:32.:42:34.

claiming it would be cheaper and safer.

:42:35.:42:35.

If you want to get it done in a hotel or something.

:42:36.:42:55.

The imam's costs, the witnesses' costs, we have to pay

:42:56.:42:58.

And for sex, if you want to enjoy it properly...

:42:59.:43:02.

You can go to a hotel or something, complete that thing...

:43:03.:43:17.

He brings up other women he has helped in the past and how much

:43:18.:43:27.

they have paid to go through with the halala marriage.

:43:28.:43:32.

One of them was in a hotel, but she also paid a lot.

:43:33.:43:36.

Some women who go through a triple talaq become desperate

:43:37.:43:44.

and will do anything to try to save their marriage,

:43:45.:43:47.

including considering going through halala.

:43:48.:43:50.

I remember crying all day long, not eating, even suicidal.

:43:51.:43:58.

And even though he was abusive and divorced you over text,

:43:59.:44:05.

you still wanted to get back together with him?

:44:06.:44:09.

When I married him, I imagined forever.

:44:10.:44:18.

My ex-husband was so desperate, we were both desperate

:44:19.:44:22.

to get back together, we knew halala was the only option.

:44:23.:44:25.

So I did a lot of research online in regards to the halala.

:44:26.:44:30.

I started ringing around and through a couple of people

:44:31.:44:33.

I found out that there are certain individuals, imams even,

:44:34.:44:35.

I found it would cost between 500 to ?2,000.

:44:36.:44:46.

I was so in love with him, I was willing to do anything

:44:47.:44:49.

You were willing to marry a stranger, have sex

:44:50.:44:55.

As awful as that sounds, yes, I was willing to do that.

:44:56.:44:59.

Going through halala comes with its risks.

:45:00.:45:03.

The man behind the Facebook account tells us he has had other

:45:04.:45:06.

men working with him, one who refused to divorce a woman

:45:07.:45:09.

After one month, I asked him to divorce.

:45:10.:45:14.

He said, "No, I want to stay for six months."

:45:15.:45:20.

I said, "No, she does not want to, you have to finish it."

:45:21.:45:25.

How do I know you would do that to me?

:45:26.:45:37.

It is a sham marriage, it is misunderstanding

:45:38.:45:41.

the concept of talaq, and the other danger is that this

:45:42.:45:44.

second husband decides, "I have married her now,

:45:45.:45:46.

I have a legitimate marriage certificate, I am not

:45:47.:45:49.

going to divorce her," so she may be stuck with a man that she does not

:45:50.:45:53.

This is adultery, infidelity, prostitution.

:45:54.:46:06.

Because halala is such a secretive issue, it is hard

:46:07.:46:08.

it is, with women often scared their families will find out.

:46:09.:46:12.

It can leave them open to blackmail, financial exploitation

:46:13.:46:14.

You wouldn't really speak about these things

:46:15.:46:26.

to your parents, your siblings,

:46:27.:46:27.

anyone, because if even one person accidentally mentions it,

:46:28.:46:29.

Do you have any idea about who was offering

:46:30.:46:32.

I heard about certain mosques in the UK containing certain imams

:46:33.:46:36.

who were offering their services for a certain amount of money.

:46:37.:46:39.

So I knew of girls who had gone behind family's backs and had it

:46:40.:46:45.

I heard of this one woman who paid for the service,

:46:46.:46:57.

probably lied to her parents and said she was going away

:46:58.:47:00.

went to the mosque - there was apparently

:47:01.:47:07.

where they did this stuff, and had it done.

:47:08.:47:16.

The imam or whoever offered these services slept

:47:17.:47:25.

with her and allowed other men to sleep with her too.

:47:26.:47:28.

It is a horrific experience for the woman to have to sleep

:47:29.:47:33.

with someone she does not love or find someone because her husband

:47:34.:47:36.

decided to say three words that should never have been said.

:47:37.:47:54.

And it's not just ordinary men who are offering

:47:55.:47:56.

This advert on Gumtree is from someone who claims to be

:47:57.:47:59.

a mufti, a Muslim legal expert who gives rulings

:48:00.:48:01.

He says he is offering a private and confidential service.

:48:02.:48:06.

Once again, we pose as a woman who has gone through a divorce

:48:07.:48:09.

He gets back within hours, saying he has helped women before

:48:10.:48:13.

and he can arrange a temporary marriage, sex and then a divorce,

:48:14.:48:16.

And sex is sold as being an important part of

:48:17.:48:20.

He wraps up the meeting by saying he will start looking

:48:21.:48:56.

into arrangements for the wedding, but does not want to put a limit

:48:57.:49:00.

Or how many times our reporter would have to sleep with him.

:49:01.:49:27.

There's nothing to suggest this man is doing anything illegal.

:49:28.:49:30.

He rejects any allegations against him, claiming he has never

:49:31.:49:35.

carried out or been involved in a halala marriage and he made

:49:36.:49:38.

the Facebook account for fun as part of a social experiment.

:49:39.:49:42.

He says he encouraged our reporter to tell other members of her family

:49:43.:49:45.

about the situation and that he had no intention of taking

:49:46.:49:48.

I wanted to see what the Islamic Sharia Council made of the footage.

:49:49.:49:59.

This is the secret film we have recorded.

:50:00.:50:01.

Having seen the footage, what did you make of that conversation?

:50:02.:50:17.

Does it shock you to see someone offering to marry someone,

:50:18.:50:20.

sleep with them and divorce them for thousands of pounds?

:50:21.:50:31.

This is somebody's sister, daughter, that you are talking to.

:50:32.:50:39.

The basic core values of Islam is where you are decent.

:50:40.:50:43.

This is nasty, this is about making money, abusing vulnerable people.

:50:44.:50:45.

What do you think about someone who claims to be able to find imams,

:50:46.:50:52.

find mosques who are willing to carry out these halala marriages?

:50:53.:50:55.

If it is true that these imams know the intention behind this,

:50:56.:51:04.

that it is a halala marriage, then those imams need to be punished.

:51:05.:51:07.

They are selling their faith, they are the worst possible

:51:08.:51:09.

Farah eventually decided against getting back

:51:10.:51:17.

of going through a halala marriage, but she warns there are other

:51:18.:51:22.

women out there like her who are desperate for a solution.

:51:23.:51:24.

It's an easy moneymaking scheme, ?1,000 to sleep

:51:25.:51:26.

I realised my ex-husband wasn't going to change,

:51:27.:51:30.

he very nearly killed me and if I had gone back,

:51:31.:51:33.

Unless you are in that situation where you are divorced

:51:34.:51:40.

and feeling the pain I felt, nobody will understand

:51:41.:51:42.

Later in the programme we'll be talking to a charity

:51:43.:51:47.

which helps women who've been through such attacks.

:51:48.:51:49.

And you can find out more on the story on Asian Network

:51:50.:51:52.

Coming up, Mel B gets a restraining order against her husband

:51:53.:52:04.

Stephen Belafonte - alleging he beat her,

:52:05.:52:13.

Next the situation in Syria - we're going to show you some

:52:14.:52:20.

disturbing images which show the horror of the reality

:52:21.:52:22.

of what is happening in the north west province of Idlib.

:52:23.:52:25.

These images show children struggling to breathe

:52:26.:52:29.

after a suspected chemical attack which has left 72 dead -

:52:30.:52:32.

The UN Security Council will meet in an emergency

:52:33.:52:39.

session this afternoon to discuss the attack.

:52:40.:52:41.

The United States, Britain and France have proposed a UN

:52:42.:52:43.

resolution condemning the attack, which they blame on the Syrian

:52:44.:52:46.

In this morning that all evidence points to President Assad's forces

:52:47.:52:57.

being behind this attack. Boris Johnson said this morning.

:52:58.:53:01.

Hours after the initial attack, air strikes also hit a hospital

:53:02.:53:06.

in the town where doctors were treating victims,

:53:07.:53:08.

bringing down rubble on medics as they worked.

:53:09.:53:19.

Let's get the latest now from Idlib province.

:53:20.:53:28.

Abdul Aziz Ajini is the media officer at the opposition-run

:53:29.:53:30.

Idlib Health Directorate, and Dr Abdulhay Tennari,

:53:31.:53:32.

a lung doctor who treated the injured from a field hospital

:53:33.:53:35.

And in Paris, Ole Solvang is a Director

:53:36.:53:38.

He has been investigating the attack to get to the bottom

:53:39.:53:42.

of what actually killed the 72 people on Tuesday.

:53:43.:53:57.

Dr Abdulhay Tennari, you are a lung doctor and treated some

:53:58.:54:00.

of the affected in Idlib province, can you walk us

:54:01.:54:02.

Yesterday at 6am, I was south of Idlib. Many people died immediately

:54:03.:54:19.

and around 500 people immediately became sick. The Syrian defence

:54:20.:54:26.

started to evacuate them. To secure them. So there were different cases,

:54:27.:54:32.

depending on the amount of gas they had inhaled, and where the rocket

:54:33.:54:40.

exploded. I saw many children sick and many children who had died. 20

:54:41.:54:46.

children died approximately and 21 women. The rest were men. They were

:54:47.:54:55.

suffering from difficulties breathing, and they had specific

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signs, which was a constricted breathing. When we see the signs, it

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is serious. It is similar with the signs of sarin gas, nerve agent that

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produces severe secretions in the lungs. The patient suffocates

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because they are respiratory system is full of secretions. So we started

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to treat them based on these symptoms and we tried to find the

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antidote. After giving the antidote, there was a very good response,

:55:44.:55:46.

which made us think it was definitely sarin gas.

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Abdul Aziz Ajini is the media officer at the opposition-run

:55:56.:55:57.

Is it clear to you that this was sarin gas? Well, when we first got

:55:58.:56:12.

information about the suspected chemical attack, we went to

:56:13.:56:19.

hospitals and met doctors there and had some photos and videos of people

:56:20.:56:26.

being carried out. And they told us that this was something new, it was

:56:27.:56:33.

not like previous chlorine attacks. In terms of the symptoms and the

:56:34.:56:38.

respiratory systems, in terms of the nerve systems, there was much

:56:39.:56:43.

difference between the syndrome is of quarrying and maybe other

:56:44.:56:52.

poisonous gases. -- the symptoms of chlorine. That is why we started

:56:53.:56:56.

thinking about other agents like sarin gas or organic phosphorus.

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Ole Solvang, who do you think is behind this and why? There is no

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doubt that hundreds of people were exposed to these conditions. The

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deadliness of the exposure is more deadly than we have seen with other

:57:31.:57:38.

chlorine gas attacks. Some of the pupils of the victims pointed

:57:39.:57:41.

towards a nerve agent like sarin gas. It is impossible to conclude

:57:42.:57:49.

for sure exactly what chemical was used without laboratory tests of the

:57:50.:57:56.

soil or of the victims. But we do not that these people were exposed

:57:57.:57:58.

to some sort of chemical. The other thing that we do now is that the

:57:59.:58:04.

Syrian government forces were conducting attacks in this area at

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the time, when these people were exposed. What we are trying to

:58:09.:58:14.

figure out and to conclude is what is the relationship between these

:58:15.:58:20.

warplanes and the exposure. There are two main theories. One is that

:58:21.:58:24.

the Syrian government warplanes dropped the chemicals, which then

:58:25.:58:32.

exposed the people. The other theory is that a bomb hit chemicals on the

:58:33.:58:38.

ground and affected lot of people that way. No matter which one of

:58:39.:58:42.

these theories is the right one, what is clear is that chemical

:58:43.:58:49.

attacks in Syria continue and the government continues conducting

:58:50.:58:54.

them. Human Rights Watch has documented numerous chemical attacks

:58:55.:58:58.

by the government and the problem is really that the Security Council has

:58:59.:59:03.

failed to really impose any sort of consequences for that. In February,

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Russia and China vetoed a resolution imposing sanctions on the government

:59:07.:59:13.

for chemical attacks and it seems obvious that combatants, forces on

:59:14.:59:17.

the ground had taken those vetoes as a green light to continue carrying

:59:18.:59:26.

out chemical attacks. Gentlemen, thank you for your time. The UN

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Security Council meeting today, of course, and we will see what comes

:59:30.:59:32.

out of that if anything. We appreciate your time. In a couple of

:59:33.:59:38.

minutes, the latest news and sport and a full weather forecast. Let's

:59:39.:59:43.

have a quick look. Also, senior Labour figures criticise the party

:59:44.:59:46.

for not expelling Ken Livingstone over his claims that Hitler

:59:47.:59:50.

supported Zionism. Time for the latest weather.

:59:51.:59:54.

This morning, there has been a chilly start to the day for some

:59:55.:59:59.

parts of England and Wales. The temperatures are picking up nicely.

:00:00.:00:04.

For most of us, the forecast is mainly dry. What is happening, we

:00:05.:00:08.

have high pressure firmly in charge of our weather. The wind across the

:00:09.:00:13.

far north of Scotland and the Northern Isles is tending to ease.

:00:14.:00:18.

After a sunny start, we will notice more cloud moving in from the North

:00:19.:00:23.

West. Most of us will miss these. Equally, we will see some cloud and

:00:24.:00:29.

sunny spells. Starting the forecast for this afternoon in the north of

:00:30.:00:33.

England, you can see the extent of the cloud. In the north-east, there

:00:34.:00:38.

will be some sunshine. Equally, in Scotland there will be some sunshine

:00:39.:00:41.

but towards the west at times, there will be a bit more cloud and some

:00:42.:00:45.

showers. Some showers already for Northern Ireland. A few remaining

:00:46.:00:49.

across the coast. Any sunshine will be limited. Quite a cloudy

:00:50.:00:53.

afternoon. For Wales the cloud will continue to build. South Wales

:00:54.:00:58.

seeing sunshine and in Cardiff, we could see 17 Celsius today. South

:00:59.:01:01.

west England also seeing sunshine. But as we move towards the Midlands,

:01:02.:01:05.

heading into East Anglia, there will be more cloud for Southern counties.

:01:06.:01:09.

Again, we will hang onto that sunshine. Temperature wise, 11-17

:01:10.:01:17.

generally, particularly if you are away from the cloud. Cardiff, maybe

:01:18.:01:24.

slightly more, 16, the same across certain parts of England and

:01:25.:01:28.

Scotland. Edinburgh may reach 15 as we go through the afternoon. It will

:01:29.:01:31.

be a cold night with a touch of frost and high pressure still firmly

:01:32.:01:36.

in charge during Thursday and Friday. Largely dry with sunny

:01:37.:01:40.

spells and variable cloud. Heading into the weekend, that is when the

:01:41.:01:45.

high pressure really comes in across our shores. Settled conditions

:01:46.:01:48.

except for the north-west where it will be breezy. The weather front

:01:49.:01:52.

will see a bit more cloud around. And also, splashes of rain. One last

:01:53.:01:56.

thing I want to show you is the temperature. Somewhere across

:01:57.:02:00.

central, Eastern or southern England, it could hit 23 but under

:02:01.:02:04.

the influence of the weather front, in the north-west and will be a

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fresher 13. This is adultery,

:02:07.:02:09.

infidelity, prostitution. Hello.

:02:10.:02:11.

It's Wednesday. Our top story today - many dead -

:02:12.:02:12.

20 of them children in a suspected As the EU and UN meet today

:02:13.:02:22.

to discuss what can be done, A doctor tells us what he saw. I saw

:02:23.:02:38.

many children and many children died and 21 women and the remaining are

:02:39.:02:41.

men. In an exclusive interview

:02:42.:02:46.

we heard from a mother whose violent and abusive former

:02:47.:02:49.

partner has been subject to the first ever court order

:02:50.:02:51.

forcing him to tell authorities She says she thinks it will help

:02:52.:02:53.

and urges women in a similar relationship to find the strength

:02:54.:02:58.

to walk away. You can lose a lot. You can lose

:02:59.:03:05.

your children. You can lose your life. You can lose yourself. Even

:03:06.:03:12.

the smile on your face. So many of you respond to go that

:03:13.:03:15.

interview. This texter says, "What an amazing, clear and inspiring

:03:16.:03:22.

message today. Please make sure you pass on our huge gratitude for her

:03:23.:03:24.

speaking out." Church leaders and politicians

:03:25.:03:27.

from all sides say they are planning to fight Government cuts to support

:03:28.:03:31.

for bereaved parents. It follow our interview with, "Alan

:03:32.:03:44.

"A terminally-ill fatheried. At this point you're contemplating death and

:03:45.:03:49.

you want to go out of this world with dignity, with some grace, with

:03:50.:04:00.

some peace of mind. Not full of financial anxiety and feeling as if

:04:01.:04:04.

the Government has just taken money away from you.

:04:05.:04:06.

The new system of support comes into force at midnight tonight.

:04:07.:04:11.

We will under speaking to some politicians who are vowing to fight

:04:12.:04:14.

them. Joanna is in the BBC

:04:15.:04:18.

Newsroom with a summary The UN Security Council

:04:19.:04:20.

is to hold emergency talks following a suspected chemical

:04:21.:04:24.

attack in Syria which has left at least 72 people dead including

:04:25.:04:26.

a number of children. The Assad regime denies

:04:27.:04:29.

using chemical weapons. Syria's ally, Russia, has blamed

:04:30.:04:34.

the poisoning on the rebels - accusing them of storing toxic

:04:35.:04:36.

agents in a factory which was hit The Foreign Secretary,

:04:37.:04:39.

Boris Johnson, says all evidence points to Assad forces

:04:40.:04:42.

being behind the attack. I have seen absolutely

:04:43.:04:47.

nothing to suggest or, rather, to lead us to think

:04:48.:04:52.

that it is anything but the regime. All the evidence I have,

:04:53.:04:55.

and there may be more All the evidence I have

:04:56.:04:57.

seen suggests that this was the Assad regime

:04:58.:05:11.

who did it in the full knowledge that they were using illegal weapons

:05:12.:05:14.

in a barbaric attack I would like to see those culpable

:05:15.:05:16.

pay a price for this. A woman whose former

:05:17.:05:24.

partner has been convicted of domestic violence offences

:05:25.:05:27.

and has been ordered to inform police about every

:05:28.:05:29.

new relationship he enters into, hopes that the court order

:05:30.:05:31.

will help future victims. Under the seven-year

:05:32.:05:38.

Criminal Behaviour Order, Kylle Godfrey must inform police

:05:39.:05:39.

if he is in a relationship Scotland Yard says it's the first

:05:40.:05:41.

time that a court order has been used to protect victims

:05:42.:05:46.

of domestic abuse. A child has suffered

:05:47.:05:55.

serious injuries The attack happened in Chatham

:05:56.:05:57.

yesterday afternoon. Two people have been arrested over

:05:58.:06:00.

the incident and the dog The European Parliament will vote

:06:01.:06:03.

later today on a resolution laying out the terms it believes the EU

:06:04.:06:07.

must demand during It says the UK must honour

:06:08.:06:09.

its financial liabilities and abide by EU standards if it wants

:06:10.:06:13.

to maintain a close trading The EU's chief Brexit negotiator

:06:14.:06:22.

issued a warning to the UK over its approach to leaving the European

:06:23.:06:23.

Union. The UK letter makes clear that the

:06:24.:06:32.

UK Government will push for negotiations and the withdrawal and

:06:33.:06:37.

the future relations. This is a very risky approach.

:06:38.:06:45.

To succeed we need on the contrary to devolve the first phase of the

:06:46.:06:49.

negotiations exclusively to reachen agreement and the principles of the

:06:50.:06:50.

exit. That's a summary of

:06:51.:06:54.

the latest BBC News. Thank you for your comments about

:06:55.:07:06.

the interview. Emily says, "I would like to say thanks to Sharia. I'm in

:07:07.:07:11.

a controlling relationship and married with two kids. It isn't

:07:12.:07:17.

violent, but I found myself getting depressed in this relationship. I

:07:18.:07:20.

tried to end the relationship, but he always says he will do better.

:07:21.:07:24.

Because I don't want our children to lose their father I keep trying, but

:07:25.:07:28.

I'm at the point where I don't know what is the truth anymore because he

:07:29.:07:32.

tells me that I'm the manipulative one and he is the victim. I'm

:07:33.:07:35.

looking for solutions and seeking help. This interview made me more

:07:36.:07:44.

determined. " Please contact Actionline and they can point you in

:07:45.:07:47.

the right direction. Lin is a on e-mail, "What a brave

:07:48.:07:51.

young woman. Having never been in a vicious violent relationship it is

:07:52.:07:54.

heartbreaking to listen to the years of torment three went through. She

:07:55.:07:58.

is young and so very wise. Let's hope her life has turned around for

:07:59.:08:02.

good." Gayle says, "I feel compelled to comment. It was the most soulful

:08:03.:08:09.

and honest and brave dialogue on the personal subject of domestic abuse.

:08:10.:08:12.

I hope she feels free to enjoy her life and children as she is entitled

:08:13.:08:17.

to and I hope she doesn't feel alone and estranged in this country."

:08:18.:08:20.

This person doesn't leave their name. "Just been listening to that

:08:21.:08:26.

lovely lady talking about domestic. I was crying along with her. I was a

:08:27.:08:29.

victim a long time ago and I know how difficult it is to escape. I

:08:30.:08:33.

would like to say thank you to her, she has probably given courage to

:08:34.:08:37.

women today." "I am a man who was subject to domestic violence from my

:08:38.:08:42.

ex-wife, but being a man, I wasn't ever able to get support."

:08:43.:08:51.

As I say, whether you're male for female go to Actionline and they

:08:52.:08:54.

will be able to give you advice on domestic abuse and violence. If you

:08:55.:08:58.

want to read more about this story and it is clear you do, then go to

:08:59.:09:03.

the BBC News website and you'll find more details there.

:09:04.:09:07.

Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho continued his

:09:08.:09:10.

United rescued a point against Everton to extend their unbeaten run

:09:11.:09:20.

But half of those have been draws, and fourth place now looks

:09:21.:09:24.

Everton took the lead in the first half.

:09:25.:09:32.

Defender Phil Jagielka with the deft touch of a striker.

:09:33.:09:37.

It was Manchester United's Mr Reliable, Zlatan Ibrahimovic,

:09:38.:09:42.

who equalised with a penalty, in the 94th minute.

:09:43.:09:44.

Here's Mourinho after the match, on substitute Shaw.

:09:45.:09:46.

For me his performance was good, but the performance was good because he

:09:47.:09:58.

was on my side and I was thinking for him. If he is on the other side,

:09:59.:10:02.

it wouldn't be the same. That's not possible at this level. He has to

:10:03.:10:06.

grow up. He has to mature and understand the game betterment he

:10:07.:10:08.

has to be more focussed. The chairman of the English Football

:10:09.:10:11.

Association Greg Clarke has reportedly commented on Sunderland

:10:12.:10:13.

manager David Moyes, over his Clarke's been quoted as saying,

:10:14.:10:15.

"it was regrettable, it was distasteful and showed

:10:16.:10:21.

a complete lack of respect". Yesterday Sunderland

:10:22.:10:27.

publicly backed Moyes, but on the field his side

:10:28.:10:31.

are still struggling. They lost 2-0 at Leicester last

:10:32.:10:34.

night and remain rooted to the foot Olympic showjumping champion

:10:35.:10:37.

Nick Skelton has announced his Skelton, who is 59, won Gold

:10:38.:10:42.

at the Rio Games last summer Four years earlier at London 2012,

:10:43.:10:48.

he helped Great Britain In a statement Skelton said

:10:49.:10:51.

the sport has given him more than he could have hoped for over

:10:52.:10:56.

the past 43 years. All the best to Nick in his

:10:57.:11:05.

retirement. That's all the sport for now, I will have the headlines at

:11:06.:11:08.

10.30am. At midnight tonight,

:11:09.:11:13.

cuts are coming in which will leave some bereaved spouses

:11:14.:11:15.

and children worse off. Since we interviewed "Alan"

:11:16.:11:17.

on our programme yesterday, a father of two with incurable

:11:18.:11:19.

cancer who has weeks to live. Church leaders and politicians have

:11:20.:11:24.

united to say they are going to fight the Government's cuts

:11:25.:11:26.

to support for bereaved parents. If "Alan", which isn't his real

:11:27.:11:30.

name, died today, he's calculated his wife and children

:11:31.:11:34.

would receive up to ?60,000 If he dies on Thursday,

:11:35.:11:36.

when Government reforms to these benefits come in,

:11:37.:11:41.

he says his family On our programme yesterday

:11:42.:11:44.

"Alan" described the cuts The Government says it's modernising

:11:45.:11:49.

an outdated system while increasing the initial lump sum for bereaved

:11:50.:11:57.

spouses, and anyone on the payments Listening to Alan's story

:11:58.:12:00.

was a Conservative former Work and Pensions Minister who described

:12:01.:12:07.

the cuts as "unfair", "wrong" and "callous" and promised

:12:08.:12:09.

she would take action. Here's what Alan had

:12:10.:12:12.

to say yesterday. I was shocked that the system

:12:13.:12:17.

of benefits that has been in place, as I understand, for 70 years,

:12:18.:12:22.

since 1946, although it's been renamed, the essence of this support

:12:23.:12:28.

is that when somebody is widowed, there is financial support available

:12:29.:12:39.

for young children up And the fact that that's

:12:40.:12:42.

being taken away seems I'm going to explain

:12:43.:12:51.

to our audience on your behalf, if it's all right, Alan,

:12:52.:13:00.

that the reason that it's difficult for you to talk

:13:01.:13:03.

is because you have cancer which, as I understand it, started

:13:04.:13:07.

in your tonsils before spreading And last December, you were given

:13:08.:13:09.

between one and five months to live. And it essentially means, therefore,

:13:10.:13:18.

that if I were to have died, or still do, in the next couple

:13:19.:13:25.

of days, my family would benefit What conversations have you had

:13:26.:13:31.

with your family about this? I've explained

:13:32.:13:48.

the situation to them. I've said in some ways that it

:13:49.:13:51.

wouldn't be a bad thing if they lost me a couple of days

:13:52.:13:57.

early, because at least there would Of course, even talking in those

:13:58.:14:02.

terms is very, very upsetting. And how do they react

:14:03.:14:14.

when you say that? Well, they're very shocked

:14:15.:14:19.

that the government which, as far as we all understand,

:14:20.:14:30.

talks a good story about being caring and compassionate,

:14:31.:14:34.

but in actual fact has deemed arbitrarily that the period

:14:35.:14:38.

of bereavement, which for 70 years has been set by the government

:14:39.:14:43.

as children up to the age of 19 or 20, suddenly,

:14:44.:14:51.

the whole process of bereavement is no different, for some unknown

:14:52.:14:57.

and unexplained reason. And Theresa May, even yesterday,

:14:58.:15:01.

supported the theory, no support for it whatsoever,

:15:02.:15:06.

that you can acceptably We have all had people,

:15:07.:15:12.

known people, who have had losses. And the losses, and the pain

:15:13.:15:23.

and the anguish, don't suddenly turn So it was perhaps one of the most

:15:24.:15:29.

naive things someone At this point in one's life,

:15:30.:15:35.

you're contemplating death. And you want to go out of this world

:15:36.:15:46.

with some dignity, with some grace, Not full of financial anxiety,

:15:47.:15:49.

feeling as if the government has just taken money away from you that

:15:50.:15:58.

you had earned legitimately. So I would call upon the Lords,

:15:59.:16:09.

the second chamber, to step up now, and call the government to account,

:16:10.:16:13.

because I think they can and should mount a cross-party initiative

:16:14.:16:16.

to stop this terrible situation. I commit to you to try to speak

:16:17.:16:30.

to the other parties across the House, to see if there's

:16:31.:16:41.

anything we can do to extend the period of support

:16:42.:16:44.

for widowed parents, because I'm really upset by the way

:16:45.:16:48.

in which this is being done, Because it is about saving money,

:16:49.:16:52.

and it is about giving more money to parents who are widowed -

:16:53.:17:00.

partners who are widowed, And it is not recognising

:17:01.:17:02.

the devastation that it can cause So I will have discussions

:17:03.:17:11.

with members across the House of Lords in all parties,

:17:12.:17:17.

and see if there is anything we can do to encourage the government

:17:18.:17:20.

to extend the support for parents. Since that interview Baroness Altman

:17:21.:17:23.

has pledged to raise the issue in the House of Lords in an urgent

:17:24.:17:36.

question tomorrow - where a minister is expected

:17:37.:17:38.

to have to respond. We can now speak to Baroness Hollis,

:17:39.:17:40.

the Labour politician who oversaw the introduction of the current

:17:41.:17:43.

bereavement support This was just a year

:17:44.:17:45.

after losing her own husband. She was a Department for Work

:17:46.:17:48.

and Pensions minister Also Dr Alan Smith,

:17:49.:17:51.

the Bishop of St Albans, who wants the government

:17:52.:17:57.

to think again. And finally Lord German,

:17:58.:17:59.

a Lib Dem member of the House of Lords who is working with other

:18:00.:18:02.

party's to reverse the changes. to say to our audience, Baroness

:18:03.:18:11.

Hollis, you are frustrated listening to some of that because you were

:18:12.:18:14.

saying that it is too late. -- I have to say to our audience. It is

:18:15.:18:21.

too late because it is now law. We have had instruments supported in

:18:22.:18:24.

the House of Lords in February, and it has gone through the Commons and

:18:25.:18:28.

takes effect tomorrow. It is too late. Were able to put a pause

:18:29.:18:32.

button on tax credits 18 months ago because it had not become law but

:18:33.:18:35.

this now has become law. The only way forward, it will not happen in

:18:36.:18:41.

the House of Lords because Brexit will take the oxygen out of primary

:18:42.:18:44.

legislation, which would be the normal way that the House of Lords

:18:45.:18:49.

would have a change of mind. I would urge people, bereaved parents and

:18:50.:18:53.

their families, they should go through to their MPs, especially if

:18:54.:18:59.

they have a Conservative MP, because the Secretary of State is a good man

:19:00.:19:02.

and I'm sure he's the one who could mitigate this is possible. Those

:19:03.:19:07.

changes have to come down the other edifices of financial measures. Lord

:19:08.:19:11.

German, you can do nothing according to Baroness Hollis? We are in a

:19:12.:19:16.

position now where the revelations have been made but that does not

:19:17.:19:19.

mean that we should not try to get the government to change its mind.

:19:20.:19:23.

And to build of steam on this matter, it is important that people

:19:24.:19:27.

from all sides of the house joined together to work together and try to

:19:28.:19:31.

mitigate what is both cruel and harsh, and I would like to see a

:19:32.:19:36.

change. I want to see the government changed its mind but the only way we

:19:37.:19:41.

can achieve that is by making sure that sufficient pressure is put on

:19:42.:19:43.

the government, that they see this cause publicly and in Parliament in

:19:44.:19:48.

a way which will make them change their mind. And if there was enough

:19:49.:19:54.

pressure and Damian Green, the Work and Pensions Secretary, listens,

:19:55.:19:57.

despite the fact that it is law, he could extend it from 18 months to

:19:58.:20:01.

five years? He could introduce new legislation. The thing about

:20:02.:20:06.

regulations, it is a fix which can be put in place for a period of

:20:07.:20:10.

time. The government can alter them. They can put in changes to make them

:20:11.:20:13.

happen. He could come back next year with new regulations extending it to

:20:14.:20:22.

three years or seven for the sheltered, to mitigate the pressure

:20:23.:20:29.

and give bereaved parents time in which to come to terms with their

:20:30.:20:32.

family's situation and their finances. But the point I want to

:20:33.:20:38.

make is that it makes me really angry, because it is not only

:20:39.:20:43.

indecent, it is also unnecessary. 75% of bereaved parents are going to

:20:44.:20:47.

be worse off as a result of George Osborne's cuts, yet two thirds, well

:20:48.:20:54.

over half will go back into work within 18 months. You do not need to

:20:55.:20:58.

whip them. But the ones who are not ready to go back to work and who

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will be hurt, they are to Matt Crooks, those with young children

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who are badly distressed, having nightmares, bedwetting, not wanting

:21:07.:21:11.

to go to school, and the mother feels she needs to be around to

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attend to them. To avoid mental health issues later, you need to

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give them extra care. And the government is saying you cannot have

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it. If it is so important to you as a Labour peer, why did your own

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leader not bother to turn up to vote against this in March? Jeremy

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Corbyn? Yes. I don't know. You must have an opinion about that? I don't

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know what he was doing. I cannot be accountable to him. But you are his

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Labour colleagues. I am responsible for policy development in the Lords,

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and in the Lords, we have been putting in some of these delays and

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changes. The crucial thing is how that we now get mitigation and

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changes, and that is to put pressure on Damian Green through Tory

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backbenchers down the other end, to introduce new regulations. Every

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family of every bereaved parent should now be putting pressure on

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Conservative MPs. Let's bring in doctor Alan Smith. Thank you for

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talking to us. The Bishop of St Albans. You know what the government

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is arguing? It says that we are updating a really old-fashioned

:22:26.:22:30.

system which is decades old. We are focusing the most financial support

:22:31.:22:36.

in the immediate period of bereavements, and increased lump sum

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and payments, tax-free, for the first 18 months. Patently right. And

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of course it is to be welcomed, the lump sum slightly increasing. But

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whilst the system may be opened, what has not changed is all the

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research and all our knowledge on what happens when people are

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bereaved, that children very often need extra time, extra support. And

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of course if money is not available, it is much more likely that the

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remaining parent is going to have to go back to work to increase their

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hours much earlier. They will not be able to give the time and attention

:23:14.:23:17.

to the young children. And this is a crucial thing about investing for

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them. As we have heard, after bereavement children are very often

:23:23.:23:25.

in a terrible state and need much more support. It is going to be very

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important that we mobilise people at every level to start talking to

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members of Parliament about this change, which must be mitigated in

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some way. And do you believe that general taxpayers will think that

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this is their to provide support for a longer period of time than 18

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months? I think the crucial issue is trauma that children go through when

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they lose a parent. It is not just short-term. It can emerge later in

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life, it can emerge in teenage life, and really it is a very difficult

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time. You have to provide that support. I think if you asked the

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public, do you think we should provide support in order to mitigate

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the trauma that these children are going to have, I am pretty sure that

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they would say yes. And in fact, the extension, through school life, of

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support, is not actually a huge amount of money in the big scale of

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things. And I think it is something that people will say is the right

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thing to do. It is up to us to build up this head of steam across our

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house and the public, in order to get the public to change their mind.

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I said in the introduction that you lost your husband one year before

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you saw the bereavement payments coming in. You experienced grief. Do

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you still experience that now? Of course. But my sons were grown up.

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But it is not about me. My situation was relatively supported at the time

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under the old system. The problem now is that lone parents are being

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whipped into work as a result of these benefits and cuts, when some

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of them, particularly as Michael was saying, with very desperate,

:25:19.:25:23.

distressed, needy children, that deeply, deeply need their parents

:25:24.:25:26.

with them. And the government is whipping them into work and treating

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them as though they do not know what is best for their family and that is

:25:30.:25:34.

indecent and wrong and unnecessary. They can get back to work as soon as

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they are ready but they are ready when their children are stronger and

:25:39.:25:41.

more able to face the crisis that they have experienced. Thank you all

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very much. Obviously, we will continue to report on this and see

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what happens next. Of course we asked with an interview with anybody

:25:49.:25:53.

from the Department of Work and Pensions and they said no. But they

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stressed in a statement that the new system is simpler, tax-free, easier

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to understand and does not affect other benefits so families can

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access wider welfare support. People managing on low income at the end of

:26:08.:26:11.

their bereavement benefit claim could receive means tested benefits.

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We will bring you more on this tomorrow when the changes come in.

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Thank you very much to Baroness Hollis, Lord German, and doctor Alan

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Smith, the Bishop of St Albans. Today marks two weeks since the

:26:33.:26:35.

terror attack in Westminster which saw four people killed and at least

:26:36.:26:36.

50 injured. At 2.40pm, attacker Khalid Masood

:26:37.:26:39.

drove a car over Westminster Bridge, ploughing into pedestrians

:26:40.:26:48.

at more than 70mph. Armed with a knife, he then ran

:26:49.:26:50.

towards Parliament and stabbed to death policeman PC Keith Palmer,

:26:51.:26:52.

before being shot dead. The attack lasted only 82 seconds,

:26:53.:26:55.

but changed lives forever. This afternoon, relatives

:26:56.:27:00.

of the victims will gather in Westminster Abbey for a service

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of hope - alongside survivors, witnesses and members of the police,

:27:05.:27:07.

fire, ambulance services Prince Harry and the Duke

:27:08.:27:09.

and Duchess of Cambridge Here's a reminder of

:27:10.:27:14.

what happened that day. We have details of a potentially

:27:15.:27:28.

serious incident coming to us from various news agencies, of two people

:27:29.:27:31.

shot outside of the Westminster Parliament. The building is

:27:32.:27:39.

apparently in lockdown. Go, go, go! Gets to cover now! Police are

:27:40.:27:45.

currently evacuating the streets outside Parliament. After reports

:27:46.:27:54.

that someone has been shot. There was blood everywhere. People have

:27:55.:27:59.

been shot or stabbed all over the place. I am now going to suspend the

:28:00.:28:08.

sitting of the house. This house is now suspended but please wait here.

:28:09.:28:13.

We heard gunshots, what we thought were gunshots. We turned around and

:28:14.:28:19.

we saw the car had ploughed into a lady. I think it was a lady, I am

:28:20.:28:24.

not 100% sure but she was underneath the wheel and I could hear screams.

:28:25.:28:27.

On the other side of the road of was a body and when I looked further up

:28:28.:28:32.

the was another body. When I looked over the side of the bridge, there

:28:33.:28:36.

appeared to be a body in the water as well. There were bodies

:28:37.:28:42.

literally... Ten, lying in different places. They had been shot. We

:28:43.:28:49.

declared this as a terrorist incident and the counterterrorism

:28:50.:28:51.

command is carrying out a full-scale investigation into the events today.

:28:52.:29:15.

We will all move forward together. Never giving in to terror. And never

:29:16.:29:25.

allowing the voices of hate and evil to drive us apart.

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We can now speak exclusively to John-Joe Flynn -

:29:29.:29:31.

a student from Edge Hill University in Lancashire who was visiting

:29:32.:29:34.

the Houses of Parliament when the attack happened.

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Two of his friends were badly injured.

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This is his first interview since the attack.

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Good morning. Thank you for talking to us. As a group of politics

:29:44.:29:49.

students, some of you went to Westminster, some went to the

:29:50.:29:53.

bridge, and you chose to go to Westminster. When were you aware of

:29:54.:29:58.

what had happened? Basically we were just leaving the Palace of

:29:59.:30:02.

Westminster and we had previously been up to Westminster Bridge the

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night before, so we decided to go and see Westminster Abbey. When the

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attack unfolded we were walking away from the Palace of Westminster. And

:30:11.:30:14.

when were you aware that something had gone wrong? It was when the

:30:15.:30:20.

shots were fired. We turned around because we had our backs to the

:30:21.:30:26.

Palace of Westminster. And then it was within minutes, the police were

:30:27.:30:30.

rushing in, with fans, and we were being told to move out, get back.

:30:31.:30:36.

When did it become clear that two of your friends had been injured on the

:30:37.:30:42.

bridge? We were standing over by the abbey at this stage behind the

:30:43.:30:45.

police cordons and I received a message on social media from Travis,

:30:46.:30:50.

one of the people injured, saying that he was hurt. I then tried to

:30:51.:30:56.

ring him. It was only on for a few seconds and cut off. After that, we

:30:57.:31:02.

couldn't get in contact with him, but on social media we saw a photo

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of him posted by a journalist, him and another classmate lying on

:31:09.:31:13.

Westminster Bridge. How are they both now? Good. I will see Travis

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later on at the Service of Hope and I saw Owen on Friday in our politics

:31:22.:31:25.

lecture. What injuries did they sustain? Owen had a head injury and

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Travis, I believe, it was a wrist and his leg. I'm guessing, I don't

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know, most of you are still in shock though? Yes. But the university have

:31:36.:31:43.

been so supportive. Offering different services, even

:31:44.:31:49.

the lectures just speaking to us personally, but yes, everyone is

:31:50.:31:53.

still quite shocked and I think it has brought us together though as a

:31:54.:31:59.

group because we've come through something like this, but yes, it is

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still, it is deeply shocking. Are you able to rationalise what

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happened or not? It just all happened so fast. I had taken a

:32:10.:32:15.

photo outside the Palace of Westminster and a few minutes later

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the next photo on my phone was us behind police cordons. It was just,

:32:22.:32:28.

it was mayhem. We were just, we didn't know what was happening. We

:32:29.:32:32.

were separated. Half of our group were on the bridge. Half of of us we

:32:33.:32:39.

were outside the palace of wem and our lecturer was inside, so it was

:32:40.:32:44.

just the kind of confusion, we're not from London. I personally am

:32:45.:32:48.

from Northern Irelandmed we don't know the area. So it was basically

:32:49.:32:54.

that and trying to get in contact as it was breaking news with our

:32:55.:32:58.

families just to say we were all right, but we didn't know what was

:32:59.:33:01.

happening. Why is it important for you to be at

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the service of hope today? I think it's important just, just to mark

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the event as we saw it unfold and it is basically everyone coming out the

:33:20.:33:23.

other side sticking together and looking forward and learning from

:33:24.:33:27.

this kind of thing. What do you think we can learn? I

:33:28.:33:37.

think we can just kind of just to lick stick together. It was, I

:33:38.:33:44.

noticed even after the attack we went to a cafe and it was the kind

:33:45.:33:49.

of comradery of the Londoners, people have this vision of

:33:50.:33:52.

Londoners, but everyone was so welcoming. I had to charge my phone.

:33:53.:33:57.

Someone offered the socket, a simple act like that because I wanted to

:33:58.:34:02.

keep in contact with my parents. It's learning from that and actually

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saying thank you to the people for being so welcoming because it was

:34:10.:34:13.

utter confusion for us. Thank you very much John-Joe.

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John-Joe Flynn. The Service of Hope attended

:34:19.:34:22.

by The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge is live from Westminster Abbey

:34:23.:34:25.

on BBC One this morning at 11.30am. Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom

:34:26.:34:30.

with a summary of today's news. The UN Security Council

:34:31.:34:32.

is to hold emergency talks following a suspected chemical

:34:33.:34:36.

attack in Syria which has left at least 72 people dead

:34:37.:34:38.

including children. The Assad regime denies

:34:39.:34:40.

using chemical weapons. Syria's ally Russia

:34:41.:34:43.

has blamed the rebels, accusing them of storing toxic

:34:44.:34:45.

agents in a factory which was hit The Foreign Secretary,

:34:46.:34:48.

Boris Johnson, says all evidence points to Assad forces

:34:49.:34:51.

being behind the attack. I have seen absolutely nothing to

:34:52.:35:07.

suggest that or rather to lead us to think that it is anything, but the

:35:08.:35:13.

regime and all the evidence I have and there maybe more to come out of

:35:14.:35:17.

this by the way, all the evidence I have seen

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REPORTER: Such as? There maybe more to come out.

:35:20.:35:22.

REPORTER: What have you seen? All the evidence I have seen suggests

:35:23.:35:28.

that this was the Assad regime who did it in the full knowledge that

:35:29.:35:33.

they were using illegal weapons in a barbaric attack on their own people.

:35:34.:35:37.

A woman whose former partner has been convicted

:35:38.:35:39.

of domestic violence offences, and has been ordered

:35:40.:35:41.

to inform police about every new relationship he enters into,

:35:42.:35:44.

hopes that the court order will help future victims.

:35:45.:35:46.

Kylle Godfrey must inform police if he is in a relationship

:35:47.:35:48.

Scotland Yard says it's the first time that a court order has been

:35:49.:35:54.

used to protect victims of domestic abuse.

:35:55.:36:01.

There have been sharp exchanges in the European parliament over

:36:02.:36:03.

Britain's exit from the EU, before a non-binding vote

:36:04.:36:06.

The EU's lead negotiator Michel Barnier, said Britain's

:36:07.:36:09.

demand for parallel talks on withdrawal and a new

:36:10.:36:11.

The Ukip MEP Nigel Farage, who led the Brexit campaign,

:36:12.:36:16.

was reprimanded after accusing the Parliament of treating Britain

:36:17.:36:19.

That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC

:36:20.:36:30.

Manchester United left it late to earn a draw in last night's

:36:31.:36:37.

Premier League match at home to Everton.

:36:38.:36:39.

The visitors scored in the first half,

:36:40.:36:41.

but Zlatan Ibrahimovic scored a 94th minute penalty.

:36:42.:36:46.

United are now unbeaten in 20 games but have drawn nine

:36:47.:36:49.

The Football Association chairman Greg Clarke has reportedly described

:36:50.:36:52.

David Moyes' comments to a BBC reporter as "regrettable"

:36:53.:36:54.

Sunderland remain bottom of the Premier League table

:36:55.:37:00.

after a 2-0 loss last night to a resurgent Leicester.

:37:01.:37:08.

And British Olympic showjumping champion Nick Skelton has

:37:09.:37:10.

announced his retirement from the sport.

:37:11.:37:12.

Skelton won Gold at the Rio Games last summer on his horse Big Star.

:37:13.:37:17.

Next the situation in Syria - we're going to show you some

:37:18.:37:27.

disturbing images - which show the horror of what has

:37:28.:37:30.

happened in the north-west province of Idlib.

:37:31.:37:31.

These pictures of children struggling for breath are almost

:37:32.:37:37.

They've been stripped of their clothes -

:37:38.:37:44.

contaminated by whatever chemical was released in the attack

:37:45.:37:46.

The British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says

:37:47.:37:49.

at least 72 people died, 20 of them children.

:37:50.:37:51.

The UN Security Council will meet in emergency session today

:37:52.:37:54.

to discuss yesterday's suspected chemical attack in the province

:37:55.:37:56.

The United States, Britain and France have proposed

:37:57.:38:01.

a resolution condemning the attack which the international

:38:02.:38:03.

community has blamed on the Syrian President,

:38:04.:38:05.

This next film contains graphic and distressing images of children

:38:06.:38:09.

We have had serious gas attacks today.

:38:10.:38:50.

These patients have got clear signs of a phosphate chemical attack.

:38:51.:39:10.

The patients keep flooding in from this chemical attack.

:39:11.:39:20.

All the world is watching us, they are supporting Assad.

:39:21.:41:16.

We condemn the use of chemical weapons in all circumstances.

:41:17.:41:18.

If proven, this will be further evidence of the barbarism

:41:19.:41:21.

More coverage on this throughout the day. Lyse Doucet will be reporting

:41:22.:41:40.

later on. Dozens of Labour Mps have openly

:41:41.:41:44.

criticised the party's decision to only suspend Ken Livingstone

:41:45.:41:46.

for another 12 months An independent panel issued

:41:47.:41:49.

the former London Mayor with a two-year suspension

:41:50.:41:51.

from standing for office or representing the party at any

:41:52.:41:53.

level for two years. He has already served one

:41:54.:41:56.

year of that suspension The suspension is over these

:41:57.:41:58.

comments he made linking This is what Mr Livingston actually

:41:59.:42:02.

said on BBC Radio London last September while defending

:42:03.:42:05.

a colleague against Let's remember when Hitler won his

:42:06.:42:15.

election in 1932 his policy then was that Jews should be moved to Israel.

:42:16.:42:21.

He was supporting Zionism before he went mad and ended up killing six

:42:22.:42:23.

million Jews. He then attempted to defend them

:42:24.:42:27.

on this programme the next day while he was being interviewed

:42:28.:42:30.

about the Labour MP Keith Vaz. There are of dozen and dozens of

:42:31.:42:37.

books by academics looking at the fact that Hitler signed a deal and

:42:38.:42:41.

worked with the Zionist movement throughout the 1930s, I have not

:42:42.:42:45.

even criticised that. The Zionist movement had to deal with the fact

:42:46.:42:49.

that Hitler was running Germany and if they were going to try and save

:42:50.:42:54.

Jews they had to do a deal with him. Are you not bothered by hurting

:42:55.:42:58.

Jewish people by repeating your views? I said at the time if anybody

:42:59.:43:03.

has been offended by what I said, I am truly sorry about that, but I

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have been struck by the number of people who came up to me on the

:43:07.:43:11.

street saying, "I'm Jewish. I know what you are said is True. Don't

:43:12.:43:13.

give into the bullying." The Chief Rabbi, Ephraim Mirvis,

:43:14.:43:17.

has accused Labour of failing the Jewish community by not

:43:18.:43:19.

expelling Ken Livingstone Ellie Price has been monitoring

:43:20.:43:21.

reaction at Westminster. In the last few minutes, deputy

:43:22.:43:25.

leader Tom Watson has spoken out. That's right. Plenty of reaction. We

:43:26.:43:36.

have had statement from the deputy leader Tom Watson who says I find it

:43:37.:43:43.

incomprehensible that elected members found Ken Livingstone guilty

:43:44.:43:47.

and then concluded that he could remain a member of the Labour Party.

:43:48.:43:50.

He goes on, "I am ashamed that we have allowed Ken Livingstone to

:43:51.:43:54.

cause such distress. This shames us all and I'm deeply saddened by T my

:43:55.:44:00.

party is not living up to its commitment to have zero tolerance

:44:01.:44:04.

approach to anti-semitism, I will continue to fight to ensure that it

:44:05.:44:09.

does. And I will press my colleagues to do so." There has been plenty

:44:10.:44:14.

reaction too from some of his Parliamentary colleagues on Twitter.

:44:15.:44:18.

Overnight we have heard from Yvette Cooper who said it is not enough to

:44:19.:44:23.

say the words zero tolerance on anti-semitism, Labour has not put

:44:24.:44:26.

them into practise, a shameful decision. Lucy Powell agreed she

:44:27.:44:35.

agreed with her colleague. She said, "An appalling decision. Why is

:44:36.:44:38.

anti-semitism being treated differently from any form of

:44:39.:44:48.

racism?" John Woodcock said, "Labour members do we stand for decency

:44:49.:44:53.

against this or are we part of the decay?" And Anna Turlye, "The Ken

:44:54.:45:06.

ban shows that Labour can look at itself in more difficult times,

:45:07.:45:10.

however painful." She expected more of a strong reaction than that. It

:45:11.:45:13.

is worth saying there are some supporters of Ken Livingstone even

:45:14.:45:17.

in the Jewish community who say it is an issue of freedom of speech and

:45:18.:45:23.

last night he said that he stood by his comments and he said that the

:45:24.:45:27.

hearing had been something out of North Korea. Again, last night, he

:45:28.:45:30.

was back on the airwaves. If he said he was a Zionist, who

:45:31.:45:40.

would not have just apologised, I would have asked my doctor if it was

:45:41.:45:46.

the first sign of dementia. He did a deal with Zionists, and I did not

:45:47.:45:50.

criticise the deal because 66,000 Germans moved to Palestine and if

:45:51.:45:55.

they have not, they would have died in the gas chambers. Launching

:45:56.:45:59.

Labour's local election campaign today, we are talking about Ken's

:46:00.:46:03.

bizarre fascination with the 1930s. It is damaging the Labour Party's

:46:04.:46:10.

reputation. Ken has form, go and read back to his second term as

:46:11.:46:14.

mayor of London, whether it was suggesting dues were not voting

:46:15.:46:17.

Labour any more because they had become wealthy and has formed when

:46:18.:46:22.

it comes to making ill considered and incendiary remarks that offends

:46:23.:46:25.

the Jewish community. Ten years after finishing as Mayor of London,

:46:26.:46:29.

his name comes up on the doorstep in my constituency because he brings

:46:30.:46:33.

the Labour Party into disrepute. He undermines our claims. Why did you

:46:34.:46:39.

ask me to come and campaign for you in the general election then? We

:46:40.:46:41.

were walking around your constituency together. He did not

:46:42.:46:45.

come anywhere near my constituency during the election and you would

:46:46.:46:51.

never be welcome. No words so far from Jeremy Corbyn. Although he has

:46:52.:46:55.

always said that the Labour Party stands against all forms of

:46:56.:46:56.

anti-Semitism. A joint investigation by this

:46:57.:47:00.

programme and the Asian Network has exclusively found online services

:47:01.:47:03.

charging divorced Muslim women thousands of pounds to take part

:47:04.:47:05.

in sham Islamic marriages. We play to the full report earlier

:47:06.:47:17.

and we are going to show you a short extract right now before we have a

:47:18.:47:20.

conversation about it. -- we played you.

:47:21.:47:32.

We have changed Farah's named to protect her identity. He tried to

:47:33.:47:41.

throw me out of the house. He dragged me by the hair. Farah's

:47:42.:47:46.

husband's behaviour became increasingly unpredictable. I was at

:47:47.:47:49.

home with the children and he was at work. During a heated discussion, he

:47:50.:47:56.

sent me a text saying that our marriage was over. He divorced me.

:47:57.:48:05.

Triple talaq is when a man says divorce to his wife three times

:48:06.:48:09.

over. Then sometimes give a triple talaq during an argument or a fight

:48:10.:48:14.

and later regret it. A small minority think that the only way a

:48:15.:48:18.

couple divorced like this is allowed to get back together is through

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halala. Halala means that a woman must marry someone else, can't you

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make the marriage and then get a divorce before she is able to marry

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her husband. It is something the vast majority of models are strongly

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against. Most say it has nothing to do with religion, as it was

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something that Farah considered. There are concerns that women are at

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risk because of making that decision. I have come across a

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number of different places that offer halala services. Most say that

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they will send a man to marry her, Kodjia make the marriage and then

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get a divorce. The man behind this account tells our reporter that the

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halala service will cost several thousand pounds.

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He then tells our reporter that he has other men working with him. One

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who refused to divorced woman after carrying out the service.

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-- divorced the woman after carrying out the service.

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There is nothing to suggest the man our reporter meets is doing anything

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illegal. We contacted him after the meeting.

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He rejects any allegations against him, claiming he has never

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carried out or been involved in a halala marriage and he made

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the Facebook account for fun as part of a social experiment.

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And that he had no intention of taking

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I wanted to see what the Islamic Sharia Council made of the footage.

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This is somebody's sister, daughter, that you are talking to.

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The basic core values of Islam is where you are decent.

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This is nasty, this is about making money, abusing vulnerable people.

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Farah eventually decided against getting back

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with her husband and the risk of going through a halala marriage,

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but she warns there are other women out there like her who are desperate

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Unless you are in that situation where you are divorced

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and feeling the pain I felt, nobody will understand

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Let's talk now to Huda Jawad who works for a domestic violence

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charity and campaigns on womens rights issues.

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Nusrat Siddiqui runs a Facebook page for single Muslim mums -

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she wants Muslim women to know their rights when it

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in Islamic law who was the first woman in the UK to serve

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Nusrat Siddiqui, your reaction to this investigation? I think it is

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discussing what goes on. I feel that most men feel that because they can

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issue the taraq three times in one go in the marriage is over, they can

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target the most vulnerable women and they are left standing there not

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knowing what to do. I think a lot of awareness needs to be brought up

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about this, and their rights. And then, going on, saying that we can

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get back together by doing halala, which there is no concept of in

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Islam. It is completely made up. The concept of three talaqs is

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misunderstood. Men can initiate a divorce proceeding and so can a

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woman. When a man initiates the proceedings, in the next three

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months they could get back together without remarriage. They have that

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time period. Similarly, if there is another divorce, another period of

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three cycles where they can decide to get back together without

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actually having a new contract, unless that period lapses, the

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problem is that people think they can just say those in one setting.

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The Koran lays out beautifully that there is a time period, that people

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can actually have a time to negotiate, to come to terms with

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issues and problems. But unfortunately, seeing it in one

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sitting, there is some opinion that even though it is sinful and wrong,

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it is valid. Hence people have this use this. -- have misused this. But

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the men are supposed to become when they speak this word, because if you

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speak this word it is such a serious word in Islam, you are not supposed

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to alter it here and there. Going onto the words halala, there was no

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mention of that word within the Koranic Scripture or tradition. Why

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are and women not using British divorce law? To reiterate that this

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is a really abusive practice, this is another example of domestic abuse

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that happens. -- why are Muslim women. Abusers will use whatever is

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available to them to control and exert power over their partners. I

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think for people of different faith backgrounds and cultures, they want

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permission from their own traditions of their status, whether it is

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marriage or divorce or having a child or the rights of death or

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birth. I think there is a need for people of different faith

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backgrounds and ethnic community is to have that recognition. That is

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why we use it. But the clear message today is please recognise that there

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is no such thing as halala. It is important that the way it is

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understood, it cannot be preplanned. In the Koran, is there -- if there

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has been three divorces, a man cannot marry his ex-wife unless she

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happens to marry somebody else and then there is a natural divorce.

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Then they may marry again. So it is organic. It is against the teachings

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of the permanence of marriage. That is a very patriarchal interpretation

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of a particular teaching or tradition that goes against the

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spirit of Justice and equality that the Koran talks about. The Koran

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talks about compassion and mercy and at the core of Islamic law is being

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compassionate and merciful towards each other. That is in fact not what

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you see. Thank you very much for your patience. Next.

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Former Spice Girl Mel B has filed a restraining order

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against her former husband Stephen Belafonte, claiming

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that he emotionally and physically abused her throughout much

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Our reporter Anisa Kadri can tell us more.

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What are the allegations? In these court papers there is a lot of

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shocking detail. Mel B claims that Stephen Belafonte emotionally and

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physically abused her throughout most of their marriage. Let me tell

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you a little bit more about the marriage. They have a daughter

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together and Mel B has children from previous relationships as well. In

:55:50.:55:54.

happier times, they were pictured on the red carpet, and Belafonte denies

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that he has abused and sexually exploited his wife. Mel B has now

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been granted a restraining order after listing some of the following

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allegations against them. Physical assault and battery. Verbal threats,

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stalking and surveying. And she says that this carried on throughout most

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of her marriage. Surveying? Related to stalking. That is one of the

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allegations. Anyway, you may ask why did she not leave him if this was

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going on throughout the marriage? I would not have asked that. Indeed,

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but she says she tried to many times but that he threatened her with

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violence and said that he would leak sex tapes to the media if she left.

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And she talks about being the main earner in these papers file. Indeed.

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She says that Mel B did not have steady employment and he wanted

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control over her finances. He access millions of dollars through a joint

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bank account. And what has Stephen Belafonte said to these allegations?

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The celebrity sites TMC put some allegations to him on Monday and he

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said that somebody had set him up to look like the bad guy. -- the

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celebrity site TMZ. I have some quotes from a film they recorded

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with him and in it he says that on allegations that she became -- he

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became very jealous would not be working with Usher, demanding that

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she had sex with him another women, he said, I'm distraught how this is

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going to affect our children. I am shocked by the allegations and that

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is what it is. And now Mel B has filed for divorce last month, citing

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irreconcilable differences. She has been granted a restraining order and

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a full hearing will be heard later this month. Thank you very much and

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thank you for your very many messages about our interview with

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which we began the programme. You can see the interview again on our

:58:09.:58:10.

programme page. On the programme tomorrow,

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