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Hello. It's 9am.

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I'm Victoria Derbyshire. Welcome to the programme.

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Well, it's here, the last full day of campaigning

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Let me know either way and who you think you're

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We will have all the latest from the main parties as they push

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Last day of campaigning means our last Election Blind Dates

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where we've been playing matchmaker to well-known faces who are poles

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Today it's the turn of former Labour advisor Ayesha Hazarika

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Things have changed and they have changed dramatically. You know

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Brexit changes everything. Stop banging on about it for a while and

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talk about the other issues, the really, really important issues.

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Also, "you need to do it", the text sent by a woman on trial

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in America for urging her boyfriend to kill himself.

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Prosecutors say Michelle Carter drove Conrad Roy to take his own

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This hour we are talking to a mum who is calling for a vaccine

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that is exclusively given to girls to be given to boys too.

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It's to protect against a virus called HPV which can cause

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different types of cancer and sexually transmitted diseases.

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Have you got sons and do you want them protected?

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An official decision has yet to be made as to whether boys should get

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it. Do get in touch on all the stories

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we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

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and If you text, you will be charged Plus have you made up your mind how

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you are going to vote? Let me know who and why,

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and if you're still undecided, It's the final day of campaigning

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in the general election and the party leaders will be

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on a hectic schedule of visits to key towns

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and cities across Britain The closing stages of the campaign

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have been dominated by the issue of security

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following the London Bridge Our political guru Norman Smith

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is at Westminster. Who is doing what and where today,

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Norman? There is just frenetic activity today, so Mrs May started

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early doors down in Smithfield market. That's the old meat market

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in Central London, not the place to go if you're a squeamish about

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coming face-to-face with a cow's carcass first thing in the morning,

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but Mrs May started there. Jeremy Corbyn is starting out in Glasgow.

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He's winding his way down through Wales and ends up in his home patch

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in Islington in Central London and Tim Farron is dotting around to

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various key target seats for the Lib Dems. Often sort of university towns

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where he's trying to hoover up some of the Remain support. So that

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blizzard of last minute activity to claw in as many votes just before

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election day. Now, news about Diane Abbott. She isn't very well, is she?

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She isn't, no. I guess a lot of us were sort of raising eyebrows when

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she pulled out of that woman's hour debate yesterday at the last minute

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and we all thought aye-aye the Labour leadership told her not to do

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it because she has been unsteady in some of her public appearances. You

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remember that time when she had a very difficult time trying to

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remember the police numbers and how much it was going to cost to

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implement Labour's policy. This morning, Jeremy Corbyn was asked

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about Diane Abbott and he said she was still not well and now we've had

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a statement from Labour saying actually her shadow is going to

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stand, her number two is going to stand in for her for a few days.

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That suggests this isn't just passing migraine or a dickie tummy,

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it suggests Diane Abbott really might be quite ill. It seems she

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will be out of action for a bit. OK. OK. The question that people like

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you probably don't like very much, but everybody wants to know! Who is

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going to win this election, Norman? Oh my god. You might as well ask

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Mystic Meg! Why ask me. I have got just about every political call

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wrong in the past five years. I think anything could happen because

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frankly who knows what people out there are thinking. We seem to live

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in volatile uncertain times. You think of Brexit. You think of Donald

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Trump. I would just say fasten your seat belts and hold on and let's

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see! What a wonderfully,ic and gorgeous answerment more from Norman

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later. Joanna Gosling is in the BBC

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Newsroom with a summary That's a good summary of how we're

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all feeling about it! The Home Office is coming under

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mounting pressure to explain how one of the London Bridge attackers

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was able to return to the UK despite The Italian authorities said

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they had issued warnings about Yousef Zaghba,

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whom they suspected of supporting the Islamic State group,

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after he tried to travel to Syria. These are the three men who brought

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terror to the streets of London The third confirmed

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as Youssef Zaghba was an Italian national born in Morocco who lived

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in East London. The 22-year-old wasn't

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regarded as a security threat by police or MI5,

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but today questions Zaghba was stopped at

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Bologna Airport last year Italian police say he was placed

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on a watch-list with British Border security staff are accused

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of still allowing him The Home Office has

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declined to comment. The Australian Government says two

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of its nationals were among Their names haven't been

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officially confirmed. Kirsty Boden, a senior

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nurse at Guy's Hospital, murdered as she ran to help people

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who had been knocked Described as selfless,

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caring and heroic. The family of Sara Zelenak,

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a nanny from Brisbane, She's one of those people that

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doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, She's amazing and she's

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21 years of age. French media have also confirmed

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the death of Alexandre Pigeard, a Borough market restaurant

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waiter from Normandy. Sebastien Boulanger's family

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are travelling to the UK from France to find out what's happened

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to the chef. Desperate searches and desperate

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days for so many who found themselves caught up

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in this tragedy. Our correspondent Sara Smith is at

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New Scotland Yard. What's the latest? Officers from New

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Scotland Yard carried out a search warrant in East London, in Ilford

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overnight. At 1.30am they arrested a 30-year-old man. Now, searches are

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carrying on at that address as they are at other addresses in East

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London. This man, this 30-year-old, was arrested on suspicion of

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commission, preparation, or instigation of terrorist acts and

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he's being held for questioning at a police station in South London.

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There are also other arrests yesterday in Barking. So far we know

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that 12 people have been arrest, who have been arrested have been

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released without charge. There are two people in custody. There was a

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man in his 30s arrested in Ireland, in Wexford, just south of Dublin. He

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is arrested on his connections with one of the killers, Rachid Redouane.

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There was an arrest made at Heathrow. That's in connection with

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the Manchester bombings. A 38-year-old man was arrested there.

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All in all, there are seven people in custody as far as that

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investigation is concerned. Thank you, Sara.

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Police investigating the Manchester bombing

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in which 22 people were killed, have arrested a 38-year-old

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man at Heathrow Airport in a planned operation.

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Detectives say they've found evidence that the suicide bomber,

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Salman Abedi, had stored parts for his device in a white

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Reports from Iran say a security guard has been killed

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in a shooting in the country's parliament in Tehran.

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An armed man is said to have entered the building and opened fire,

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Across the city, at a this Rhine a suicide bomber reportedly shot

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several people before detonating explosives.

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President Trump has spoken to the King of Saudi Arabia

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to discuss his country's decision to cut ties with Qatar

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because of its alleged support for extremist groups.

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Mr Trump had earlier backed the move, saying it could be

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"the beginning of the end to the horror of terrorism".

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A White House spokesman said the President had stressed the need

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There are calls for the HPV vaccine, which is currently

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only given to girls, to be received by boys too.

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The human papilloma virus jab is offered to teenage girls

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in the UK to protect against cervical cancer.

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Experts say there is increasing evidence on links between HPV

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After 10am, we'll be talking to a mum, who's had

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a HPV-related cancer herself, and wants her sons

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to receive the vaccine as well as her daughter.

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The American-based taxi firm, Uber, says it has sacked 20 employees

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after an investigation into complaints of sexual

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harassment, bullying and other issues.

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Uber has been under fire over its treatment of women staff

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since a former employee wrote a scathing blog post

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Most complaints came from workers at the firm's San Francisco base.

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A 14-year study of nearly a million people at risk

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of developing heart disease, found those who were married

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fared much better than those who were single.

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Researchers from Aston Medical School found married people

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with high cholesterol were 16% more likely to be alive at

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It also found that married people with diabetes had a 14%

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And married patients with high blood pressure were 10%

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Researchers believe, although they cannot prove it,

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that a loving spouse may encourage you to stay fit and well.

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It could be a whole range of things ranging from having someone, a close

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relative to be able to offer you support in taking your medications,

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being your rehab programmes and things and also seeking help from a

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doctor when you know you need it and in particular men are notoriously

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bad for doing that and it's having a spouse can help with that.

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That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30am.

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Thank you very much. One viewer in Dundee says I normally vote SNP, but

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I will be voting Conservative because the SNP want to stay in the

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European Union. And this text from Adrian, "I'm voting Labour. We have

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had years of austerity with no improvement." Get in touch with us

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throughout the morning. Who are you going to vote for and why and if

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you're undecided tell me what it is that you're weighing up at this late

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stage. If you're texting, you will be charged at the standard network

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rate. Let's get some sport

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with Hugh Woozencroft. The British and Irish Lions

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are in action on their tour of New Zealand -

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how's it going? One media outlet in New Zealand

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describing Warren Gatland's side as reaching levels of mead OK rity.

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Before the match there was a minute's silence held in memory of

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the victims of the recent terror attacks in London and Manchester.

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The Lions faced down a traditional chant. The Blues showed some class.

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The Blues went ahead early on. The Lions had a try narrowly ruled out

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before the back row bundled over to square things up. A conversion and

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further penalty edged the Lions ahead. There are ten minutes before

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half-time and that one the Lions much improved so far, but still

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plenty to play for in the coming minutes.

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The FA seem determined to tackle hooliganism.

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Tell us about the bans they've handed out to supporters.

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Two supporters club members made Nazi gestures in the match against

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germ in March. There was booing of the German National Anthem and

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singing about the Second World War as well ahead of the match in

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Dortmund. The FA has taken a strong line now. The two fans who made Nazi

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references towards German fans have been handed lifetime bans from the

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England supporters travel club. That's the only way to get England

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tickets away from homement they are forbidden to attend all of their

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country's away games. 27 people have seen their membership suspended for

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varying lengths of time. Six handed written warnings and other cases

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pending as well and the FA taking a strong stance. They're determined to

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tackle what they fear is a new generation of hooliganism.

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Now, you've got some really dramatic pictures to show us

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What's the latest from Sir Ben Ainslie's challenge?

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They are into the semifinal of qualifying taking on New Zealand,

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but look at this for a moment of drama yesterday. New Zealand's

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catamaran suddenly capsizing forwards on the run-in to the start

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of one of the races. Some crew were left suspended in the boat's hull

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above the water. Three were thrown overboard, but all the crew were

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safe and accounted for. Some cuts and bruises, of course, but they did

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say it was entirely their fault. BA R captain Sir Ben said he'd never

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seen anything like it in his 30 years of racing. It does mean they

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got a helping hand, Ben Ainslie's team. They trail New Zealand 3-1 in

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the best of nine series. Plenty of work. They should be back on the

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water in Bermuda later on if the weather conditions are suitable.

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Time for the sixth and final edition of our Election Blind Dates.

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Over the last week, we've been playing matchmaker to some

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well-known faces who are poles apart when it comes to politics.

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Nigel Farage and Rachel Johnson, Peter Stringfellow and Mary Beard,

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Gina Miller and Godfrey Bloom - our unlikely couples have ended up

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having some fascinating conversations and quite often,

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You've told us that you've really appreciated seeing people

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who disagree with each other on some fundamental issues, talking about

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Today, the SNP's Tommy Sheppard - who set up The Stand Comedy club -

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She was once advisor to Labour's Ed Miliband,

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But when the conversation turns to the question

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of Scottish independence, will either of them be laughing?

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There's an election on and people are talking politics.

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So what happens when you send two people with opposing

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I'm like, oh my god, this has been so long.

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You see people that are sat there and can go and work

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They choose to go and sign on - it angers me.

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When people stand at the dispatch box and tell me there's

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more money in education, I look around and wonder

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Because it's not in my children's school.

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I went on a date with a guy and he drank so much.

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He did then said to me, you couldn't pay for the cab, could you?

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Gordon Brown, Harriet Harman, Ed Miliband - that went really well.

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Now I'm a political commentator and a stand-up comedian.

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When I was growing up in the West of Scotland you had religion,

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the Labour Party and you had Rangers and Celtic.

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I think I'm the kind of person on a date I'll have strong initial

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Do you think sparks are going to fly?

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I'm the SNP candidate for Edinburgh East.

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It's been a long time since I've been on a date.

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I'm really curious as to who it's going to be, you know.

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Who would you not want to be going on a date with?

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Is there anyone I wouldn't go on a date with?

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Do you know, I'm that desperate, probably not.

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Do you know what, I thought it was going to be Alex Salmond.

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We're going to agree with each other too much, I think.

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Are you ready for Prime Minister Corbyn?

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You know, given that she was 24 points ahead

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in the polls, he started off the campaign with a photocall

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in a toilet, it was sort of like, everyone was, I think we know

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Well, here we are, six days out and it's incredible.

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She's gone from strong and stable to not willing

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Also, she's had such a stinker of a campaign.

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What's interesting, right, she's been a lucky general.

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She didn't even have a proper leadership contest.

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She had to go up against Andrea Leadsom.

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That is like winning Wimbledon against a wheelie bin.

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The thing is, Woman's Hour is not an easy game.

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People make the assumption that women's media is like a soft ride.

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They do it with mumsnet and with Woman's Hour.

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They sometimes do it with women's magazines.

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And actually it's just really insulting to think that

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because you have a female journalist the questions aren't going to be

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But to be honest, the fact that Theresa May won't even turn up to do

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I feel she's in a witness protection scheme now.

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I was on This Week last night with Andrew Neil.

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So I spent - not hours, days - it was like cramming for an exam.

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I knew the price of every single spending commitment

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I could have just gone in there and chatted

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I've got to eat something which I'm not going to get all over myself.

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I think we're all cautious of not having a Miliband moment.

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So, listen, you're in touch with the right wing

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Don't call it the right wing of the Labour Party!

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That's not fair, the right wing of the Labour Party.

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Well, there's a right and left of everything.

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Well, people who just don't agree with Corbyn.

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Well, those people, what are they going to do if Corbyn

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Another five years of just trying to knife him

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That's going to be boring, apart from anything else.

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On that, we are a party that exists to win parliamentary seats,

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that is what the Labour Party exists to do, to get into power, to do

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So if you tick that box, everything else is forgiven?

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No, I'm not saying that, hear me out.

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What I will say is that Corbyn has had a good election campaign.

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So I think the truth is, even if he loses the election

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and even if loads of Labour MPs lose their seats, I reckon

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he will still be around as the leader of the Labour Party.

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Why do you want another Scottish referendum?

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Don't you think the people of Scotland have had

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Things have changed quite dramatically.

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The United Kingdom that people voted to be part of in 2014 is not

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If you go to a shop and you buy something, and you get it home...

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If you go to a shop, you buy something, you take it

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home and you open it up, and what you find is not

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what it says on the packet, well, you take it back and you say,

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And I think a lot of people are finding that the decision

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they took in 2014 isn't what it said on the packet.

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There's been a lot of democracy in Scotland.

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I think the good thing about that is people

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are really energised about politics in Scotland.

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But I think the plea from people is, can we just move off the obsession

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Nicola Sturgeon is like the Beyonce of Scottish politics.

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She's a woman obsessed with her independence.

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That's a great soundbite but it's not true.

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And let's just see some of that focus on the big day job stuff.

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Every time somebody goes to the chemist and gets

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a prescription and doesn't pay ?8.60 - that's doing the day job.

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Every time a kid in a Scottish university doesn't get a bill

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for ?27,000 for their fees, that's doing the day job.

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If you look at Nicola's speech, she was very very clear,

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that now was not the time for a second

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We need to know the shape of Brexit first.

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It's like saying "I don't want to have this conversation

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now, I want to have it in three years' time."

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Well, wait and have it in a few years' time.

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We're all frustrated with Theresa May about Brexit.

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She's treating the public like potatoes, best kept in the dark.

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We don't know how Brexit is going to pan out.

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And my goodness, we've had plenty of democracy.

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And people have the right to change their minds.

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I thought it was a once in a generation?

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There's no point asking the question again if no-one

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has changed their mind or if circumstances haven't changed.

:24:08.:24:09.

Stop banging on about it for a while and talk

:24:10.:24:16.

about the other issues, the really, really important issues.

:24:17.:24:22.

You know, you have been in government for a long

:24:23.:24:24.

There are lots of issues to be dealt with.

:24:25.:24:28.

There is much more that needs to be done but I would ask

:24:29.:24:33.

One, that the actual performance of the health service in Scotland

:24:34.:24:39.

The second thing to note, we do that within a framework

:24:40.:24:47.

of Scottish Parliament operating within the rules and within budgets

:24:48.:24:55.

which are mainly set in number 10 and number 11 Downing Street.

:24:56.:24:59.

My dad was in hospital recently and was lying on a trolley

:25:00.:25:06.

in a corridor for quite a while before he got into bed.

:25:07.:25:09.

So you can see the health service north and south of the border.

:25:10.:25:12.

You can't sit there with a straight face and tell me that it's

:25:13.:25:16.

just as bad in Scotland as it is in England.

:25:17.:25:19.

Just because people are not rioting in the streets,

:25:20.:25:22.

that's not a barometer that everything's going well.

:25:23.:25:24.

We've had stuff out recently, literacy and numeracy

:25:25.:25:27.

We've got children from poor backgrounds not

:25:28.:25:30.

Well, actually, the figures are improving for children

:25:31.:25:34.

from working-class backgrounds getting to university.

:25:35.:25:36.

Even your education minister has said there has been an issue.

:25:37.:25:40.

The point is, in Scotland, you have a Scottish Government

:25:41.:25:42.

that is focused on doing something about those problems.

:25:43.:25:47.

Admits that they are there, understands why they are there.

:25:48.:25:49.

Whereas in England, what's the education policy here?

:25:50.:25:51.

The Tories just want to bring back grammar schools.

:25:52.:25:53.

Which by definition isn't going to help most people.

:25:54.:25:58.

Are you guys worried that you're going to lose some seats

:25:59.:26:03.

I can't believe I'm even saying those words.

:26:04.:26:06.

We used to talk about there being more giant pandas than Tory MPs.

:26:07.:26:17.

Scotland had become a Tory free zone.

:26:18.:26:23.

Truth is, there has always been Scottish Tories

:26:24.:26:26.

We're seeing them be more confident and turning out in greater

:26:27.:26:33.

numbers than they've done for some years.

:26:34.:26:34.

And do you think part of that is down to the fact that

:26:35.:26:38.

Ruth Davidson, she's quite a big figure, isn't she?

:26:39.:26:40.

Do you think that has had a big factor in it?

:26:41.:26:47.

I think she's been very effective at sort of humanising

:26:48.:26:50.

I like to have a laugh and I can joke about stuff

:26:51.:27:12.

Having done stand-up gigs for a long time, PMQs has an element

:27:13.:27:20.

of the late-night show at the Comedy Store when it's

:27:21.:27:22.

And I do have to say, it strikes fear and terror

:27:23.:27:27.

into the heart of every politician that has to do it.

:27:28.:27:39.

And I think there, if you can have a good line

:27:40.:27:41.

or something funny to use, it can be quite powerful.

:27:42.:27:44.

The funniest bits are not the scripted one-liners.

:27:45.:27:48.

The funniest bits are the adlibs or the heckles.

:27:49.:27:50.

Do you remember there was this terrible thing when David Cameron

:27:51.:27:53.

was under loads of pressure, it was around the Murdoch

:27:54.:27:55.

And it turns out he had been horse riding on Rebekah Brooks' horse.

:27:56.:27:59.

And one of our backbenchers just started going, "Neigh!"

:28:00.:28:02.

And it was so juvenile, but I'm afraid everyone absolutely

:28:03.:28:05.

And the Prime Minister just looked ridiculous.

:28:06.:28:08.

And then there was that thing with the animal's head.

:28:09.:28:14.

During the Remain campaign for the referendum, we went

:28:15.:28:23.

on a cross party bus, myself, Harriet Harman,

:28:24.:28:25.

lots of other people including David Cameron.

:28:26.:28:27.

And we went to this farm in the South West

:28:28.:28:29.

And the press team basically said to us beforehand,

:28:30.:28:34.

don't even think about getting a picture of the Prime

:28:35.:28:36.

I'll put in the bulk of it which is ironic.

:28:37.:28:57.

Shall we have a discussion about the Barnett formula now?

:28:58.:28:59.

We'll put in equal measures and look forward

:29:00.:29:04.

to an equal partnership between Scotland and

:29:05.:29:05.

The independence thing does obviously annoy me

:29:06.:29:22.

because the SNP is obsessed with the independence question.

:29:23.:29:24.

They are a sort of single issue party.

:29:25.:29:29.

I feel like we're going round and round and round again.

:29:30.:29:36.

It's like deja vu, it's like Groundhog Day.

:29:37.:29:37.

I expect I haven't changed your mind and you haven't changed my mind.

:29:38.:29:41.

I think Tommy and I could be really good friends but I don't think we've

:29:42.:29:45.

It's just as well politics isn't the only thing in life, isn't it?

:29:46.:29:51.

Allen says these election Blind dates have been lol. That was the

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last in the election blind date series. Do not worry, you can catch

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And let us know what you think using the hashtags election blind

:30:28.:30:34.

And with the news that one of the London attackers

:30:35.:30:48.

was able to enter the UK, despite being on an EU-wide

:30:49.:30:55.

watch list - we ask "how safe are our borders?"

:30:56.:31:03.

Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

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It is the final day of campaigning in the general election. The closing

:31:08.:31:14.

stages of the campaign have been dominated by the issue of security,

:31:15.:31:18.

following the London Bridge attack. Theresa May has said if the

:31:19.:31:22.

Conservatives are re-elected she would scrap any Human Rights laws

:31:23.:31:26.

that prevent her from introducing tougher anti-terror measures. The

:31:27.:31:29.

former Liberal Democrat leader, Nick Clegg, accused her of trying to make

:31:30.:31:33.

up for her lacklustre election campaign.

:31:34.:31:38.

Jeremy Corbyn said the Shadow Home Secretary, Diane Abbott is unwell

:31:39.:31:41.

and is taking a break from the campaign. He said Diane Abbott who

:31:42.:31:47.

withdrew from a debate on Woman's Hour had received totally unfair

:31:48.:31:48.

levels of abuse. The Home Office is coming under

:31:49.:31:53.

mounting pressure to explain how one of the London Bridge attackers

:31:54.:31:56.

was able to return to the UK despite The Italian authorities

:31:57.:31:59.

said they had issued warnings about Yousef Zaghba

:32:00.:32:03.

after they suspected that he was a supporter

:32:04.:32:04.

of the Islamic State group who'd In a further development,

:32:05.:32:07.

detectives have arrested a 30-year-old man on suspicion

:32:08.:32:12.

of terror offences in Police investigating

:32:13.:32:14.

the Manchester bombing in which 22 people were killed have

:32:15.:32:19.

arrested a 38 year-old man at Heathrow Airport

:32:20.:32:22.

in a planned operation. An inquest into the 22 deaths

:32:23.:32:27.

at the Manchester Arena Reports from Iran say seven people

:32:28.:32:32.

have been killed and four have been taken hostage at the country's

:32:33.:32:36.

parliament in Tehran. An armed man is said to have entered

:32:37.:32:38.

the building and opened fire, Across the city, at a shrine housing

:32:39.:32:41.

the tomb of Ayatollah Khomenei founder of the Republic,

:32:42.:32:46.

a suicide bomber reportedly shot several people before

:32:47.:32:48.

detonating explosives. President Trump has spoken

:32:49.:32:52.

to the King of Saudi Arabia to discuss his country's decision

:32:53.:32:55.

to cut ties with Qatar because of its alleged support

:32:56.:32:57.

for extremist groups. Mr Trump had earlier backed

:32:58.:33:00.

the move, saying it could be "the beginning of the end

:33:01.:33:03.

to the horror of terrorism". A White House spokesman said

:33:04.:33:05.

the President had stressed the need That's a summary of the latest BBC

:33:06.:33:08.

News - more at 10am. The British and Irish Lions

:33:09.:33:15.

are trailing in the second match of their Tour

:33:16.:33:30.

to New Zealand. They were leading

:33:31.:33:35.

against the Auckland Blues at half-time thanks

:33:36.:33:41.

to a try from CJ Stander. As part of the Football

:33:42.:33:44.

Association's vow to tackle hooliganism, they've handed out

:33:45.:33:46.

lifetime bans for the first time - two supporters who made Nazi

:33:47.:33:49.

gestures at the friendly against Germany in Dortmund in March

:33:50.:33:51.

will never again be allowed Two wins from two took

:33:52.:33:54.

England's cricketers through to the semi-finals

:33:55.:33:57.

of the Champions Trophy. They beat New Zealand

:33:58.:33:59.

by 87 runs in Cardiff and they'll top their group

:34:00.:34:02.

and knock out Australia, if they beat them at

:34:03.:34:04.

Edgbaston on Saturday. And there was a dramatic race win

:34:05.:34:07.

for Sir Ben Ainslie's team in the America's Cup semi-finals

:34:08.:34:09.

when the New Zealand boat capsized - all the crew members were fine -

:34:10.:34:12.

and they still lead the British team 3-1, with the first

:34:13.:34:16.

to five going through. That's all the sport for now. I will

:34:17.:34:17.

have more at 10am. Thank you very much for letting me

:34:18.:34:31.

know who you're going to vote for. This viewer says, "I'm switching to

:34:32.:34:35.

Labour. The Conservatives have failed me in every way." Sheila

:34:36.:34:40.

says, "I'm voting Conservative." This text from Sam, "I believe that

:34:41.:34:45.

democracy only votes based on our values. Therefore, I'm voting Lib

:34:46.:34:49.

Dems even though they are unlikely to make it into Government. They

:34:50.:34:53.

will never have a chance to lead the country if they don't gain any

:34:54.:34:59.

momentum." Keep those coming in. If you're undecided, what is it that

:35:00.:35:03.

you're weighing up? What will it be that finally makes the decision for

:35:04.:35:08.

you? Let me know. Send me an e-mail. Or you can tweet which is using the

:35:09.:35:23.

hashtag Victoria Live. Khuram Butt's uncle in Pakistan has

:35:24.:35:25.

been talking to our correspondent. I condemn first of all this incident

:35:26.:35:30.

in this brutal action. I am feeling ashamed

:35:31.:35:37.

talking about this. Innocent people are

:35:38.:35:44.

killed in this action. I have very deep sympathies

:35:45.:35:50.

with all the victims, innocent victims, even

:35:51.:35:52.

I would like to say no religion Khuram Butt was born in Pakistan,

:35:53.:35:55.

but moved to London as a child. His uncle said on his last trip

:35:56.:36:12.

in 2013 he noticed he had become more religious,

:36:13.:36:18.

but not extreme. When he came he started off reading

:36:19.:36:33.

prayers and he had a beard also. Before that these symptoms,

:36:34.:36:38.

I did not find in him. He found out about Butt's

:36:39.:36:41.

involvement on the Butt's mother had seen this photo

:36:42.:36:43.

on the news and recognised her son. I received a call from the UK,

:36:44.:36:58.

from my sister's home, and she was weeping and she only

:36:59.:37:01.

said that something I started to listen

:37:02.:37:04.

to the BBC and CNN. Sometimes they show a flash of that

:37:05.:37:13.

person who was stabbing. I also recognised

:37:14.:37:19.

that this is Khuram. Are you angry with Khuram now?

:37:20.:37:24.

Do you feel angry towards him? I can't explain in words.

:37:25.:37:27.

I don't have any words. What message do you have

:37:28.:37:34.

for the families of the victims? They are on my mind, even I don't

:37:35.:38:09.

know their names, but I think they are my relatives, my brothers. I

:38:10.:38:17.

don't know their names, their nationalities and why they were

:38:18.:38:23.

killed. They came to the city to make their shopping, to make their

:38:24.:38:34.

dinners. Who allows anyone to hit them and to die them? That's the

:38:35.:38:46.

uncle of Khuram Butt, one of the London attackers.

:38:47.:38:55.

Meanwhile it's emerged that the third London terrorist,

:38:56.:38:56.

Youseff Zaghba, was on an EU-wide watch list after being stopped

:38:57.:38:59.

It's believed he was travelling to Syria and it's reported he told

:39:00.:39:04.

officials, he "wanted to be a terrorist".

:39:05.:39:06.

Somehow despite being on that database, he was

:39:07.:39:08.

We can talk now to the former head of the UK Borders

:39:09.:39:16.

I'm really interested on behalf of our audience for you to talk through

:39:17.:39:27.

what is supposed to happen when an individual is added to this EU-wide

:39:28.:39:31.

database. First of all, what does that mean? First of all, there isn't

:39:32.:39:40.

an EU-wide database. There are something like 26 different

:39:41.:39:45.

databases in the EU. And the UK does have access to some of those. So I'm

:39:46.:39:55.

waiting to hear precisely what data was shared like everybody else. We

:39:56.:40:00.

do have a national UK database and that is accessible by a range of

:40:01.:40:04.

different agencies who can put data directly on to that and that would

:40:05.:40:08.

enable our officers at the UK border to intervene if they are asked to do

:40:09.:40:16.

so by an agency. So as we speak we know that this person was put on a

:40:17.:40:20.

watch-list by the Italians, but we don't know what they mean by the

:40:21.:40:24.

watch-list and we don't know whether or not that was shared routinely

:40:25.:40:28.

with us or whether it was passed as an individual risk so there is a lot

:40:29.:40:32.

of information to come out. I think it would be wrong to jump to any

:40:33.:40:35.

conclusions. That's fair enough. It was put as I understand it, on

:40:36.:40:40.

something called the Schengen database. What is that? There is a

:40:41.:40:46.

Schengen information system. As you know the Schengen group, we are not

:40:47.:40:50.

part of the Schengen group. That's part of a group of countries that

:40:51.:40:54.

don't have borders between them and they have to have a central

:40:55.:40:59.

information system that enables them to share data. There is however the

:41:00.:41:05.

Schengen INAUDIBLE

:41:06.:41:10.

Which was agreed in the treaty of Amsterdam which does enable the UK

:41:11.:41:15.

and other EU countries have access to some components of the Schengen

:41:16.:41:18.

information system, but I don't know whether in this case that part of

:41:19.:41:21.

the Schengen system was shared with the UK or not.

:41:22.:41:28.

Right, OK. From what you're describing then, unless Youssef

:41:29.:41:33.

Zaghba was on the UK watch-list then he wouldn't necessarily be stopped

:41:34.:41:37.

at an airport when he arrives here, is that correct? Absolutely. He is a

:41:38.:41:43.

European citizen as I understand it. I don't know if he travelled on his

:41:44.:41:47.

European passport or on his identity card, but either way, he benefits

:41:48.:41:51.

from freedom of movement. He would not have been asked any questions

:41:52.:41:55.

and there would have been simply a document check either through our

:41:56.:42:01.

E-gates or by an officer which would be a straightforward watch-list

:42:02.:42:05.

check. So unless somebody somewhere, from another agency or from you

:42:06.:42:09.

know, or from the EU had given us the data and uploaded that on to our

:42:10.:42:13.

watch-list there would have been no grounds for a Border Force officer

:42:14.:42:18.

to stop him and again, of course, when people put data on our

:42:19.:42:21.

watch-lists there are different types of codes and some are called

:42:22.:42:27.

stopping and non stopping codes. That would send a signal to border

:42:28.:42:30.

officers as to whether or not in the opinion of the person putting the

:42:31.:42:34.

data on that there was sufficient risk to stop that person then the

:42:35.:42:37.

Border Force would stop them and refer to whatever agency was the

:42:38.:42:43.

source. From a lay person's point of view, I'm a member of the public, I

:42:44.:42:47.

pay my taxes and I travel and I get on planes to places like Italy and

:42:48.:42:52.

back again, if someone is arrested at an Italian airport, suspected of

:42:53.:42:56.

travelling to Syria and apparently says to officials, "I want to be a

:42:57.:43:01.

terrorist." I might have assumed and wrongly as you've pointed out that,

:43:02.:43:07.

there would be an EU-wide database where this individual's name would

:43:08.:43:13.

be placed so that were he to arrive at any other airport in the EU, of

:43:14.:43:17.

which we are still a member, it would flash on a computer screen. Is

:43:18.:43:22.

that naive of me? Yes. No, that's not an unreasonable assumption for

:43:23.:43:29.

you to make. We had a conference in London Bridge where we had

:43:30.:43:34.

representatives from the European Union talking about it. It doesn't

:43:35.:43:41.

follow that because somebody is detected on outbound and there is a

:43:42.:43:44.

sufficient reason for that person to be circulated across the EU or

:43:45.:43:47.

elsewhere. It is really a problem and it was identified in Paris and

:43:48.:43:53.

Brussels of how the EU deals with this. That's integrated to a single

:43:54.:43:59.

system and how risks are spread across all of the member states and

:44:00.:44:06.

it is not just the EU, we have if not more intelligence from the US,

:44:07.:44:10.

Canada and Australia. Border agencies are always looking to

:44:11.:44:15.

gather intelligence and data and there has been 5,000 EU passport

:44:16.:44:21.

holders that we know have been to Syria and come back again, but they

:44:22.:44:24.

haven't all been arrested and I think this is the problem that we're

:44:25.:44:30.

facing now is how do we track people like this, who are on the radar, but

:44:31.:44:34.

the evidence isn't sufficient to enable us to stop them or arrest

:44:35.:44:38.

them and that's going to all come out in the coming days as the

:44:39.:44:42.

investigation unfolds. Is the current system working? Well, I can

:44:43.:44:48.

only speak from my experience. I was the head of the Border Force in the

:44:49.:44:54.

period around the London 2012 Olympics. I was responsible for the

:44:55.:45:00.

vetting and checking of many, many people coming to this country at a

:45:01.:45:04.

time when we were operating an alert level of severe and that worked well

:45:05.:45:07.

and we were able to mitigate a significant number of threats, but

:45:08.:45:11.

this is a moving feast and I do hope that the public bear with the

:45:12.:45:14.

intelligence services and with the Border Force. We are quite good at

:45:15.:45:20.

this, but there is no such thing I am afraid anywhere in the world such

:45:21.:45:25.

thing as a perfect border and we will need to learn lessons from

:45:26.:45:30.

this. Nor a perfect database. Thank you, Tony Smith. Really interesting,

:45:31.:45:43.

former head of the UK Border Force. And a -- a...

:45:44.:45:46.

We'll hear more about the 20 year-old woman on trial in America

:45:47.:45:49.

for allegedly urging her boyfriend to take his own life via text.

:45:50.:45:51.

So there's just one more day of campaigning

:45:52.:45:53.

For the last few weeks, we've enlisted the help of Twitter

:45:54.:45:57.

watchers at the think tank Demos, to mine millions of tweets and tell

:45:58.:46:00.

Twitter users are a small part of the electorate and this

:46:01.:46:04.

non-scientific analysis is not about how people are going to vote.

:46:05.:46:07.

And what they have been talking about.

:46:08.:46:11.

Today it's all about their patterns of behaviour over the last 6 weeks.

:46:12.:46:15.

Josh Smith, you've been with us for that time.

:46:16.:46:20.

Let's go back six weeks. Good morning, yes. A lifetime ago. It has

:46:21.:46:30.

been a long and short campaign. We have been looking at the discussion

:46:31.:46:33.

on generic hashtags since the campaign was announced. These are

:46:34.:46:38.

the terms that the public were using about the election. The blue line

:46:39.:46:45.

near is the discussion of the Conservatives and Theresa May, the

:46:46.:46:49.

red line is the discussion of Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party and the

:46:50.:46:52.

grey line is absolutely everybody else combined. What we see here,

:46:53.:46:58.

there are two things that stick out. The first thing is doing this kind

:46:59.:47:03.

of analysis, it lets you see what people are actually concerned with.

:47:04.:47:05.

Or at least what they are talking about. So we have seen spikes when

:47:06.:47:11.

the Labour manifesto was launched, and some foreign policy speeches

:47:12.:47:14.

that Jeremy Corbyn has given. After Manchester, when the campaigning

:47:15.:47:18.

relaxed, there was a halt in campaigning and we saw a similar

:47:19.:47:22.

halt on Twitter. At the second thing that is striking about this is this

:47:23.:47:28.

grey line, which might be expected to uptake as the Labour and

:47:29.:47:32.

Conservative lines have over the last week, it has remained pretty

:47:33.:47:35.

constant or even declined as we approach the election. This has been

:47:36.:47:43.

released pricing. You been looking at what 400 supporters of some of

:47:44.:47:49.

the parties have been talking about. Absolutely. So what we have tried to

:47:50.:47:53.

do, let me take you back to the beginning of May, two weeks into the

:47:54.:47:59.

campaign. Everybody has got over their surprise that the election has

:48:00.:48:02.

been called at all. And these are words that Labour were using during

:48:03.:48:06.

that week which are characteristic of that week's discussions. This is

:48:07.:48:10.

what Labour supporters are talking about six weeks ago was. Yes. We

:48:11.:48:17.

have removed the words from conservative supporters. This is one

:48:18.:48:22.

party's view. And you can see there is quite a wide discussion, we're

:48:23.:48:26.

still talking about fox hunting, education, the media and fraud.

:48:27.:48:29.

There is one discussion that dominates and this is where Labour

:48:30.:48:33.

have traditionally felt comfortable, and that is the NHS. Quite a

:48:34.:48:38.

detailed discussion about health, nurses, hospitals etc. Fast forward

:48:39.:48:46.

to this week, and this discussion is still focused on the NHS but the

:48:47.:48:50.

shifting patterns of conversation behind that have changed. So all

:48:51.:48:55.

parties, supporters from the Conservatives, labour and all the

:48:56.:48:58.

other parties, we saw them reacting to the events of the last few weeks,

:48:59.:49:03.

London Bridge and Manchester. Condemning them, expressing horror

:49:04.:49:06.

and anguish. And again, because this is what Labour is talking about, we

:49:07.:49:13.

have removed those that were not about this. The way they have talked

:49:14.:49:16.

about the attack has intended to concentrate on cuts, on decisions

:49:17.:49:22.

that the Conservatives have made that might have contributed to this

:49:23.:49:29.

kind of extremism. And what about the 400 Conservative supporters,

:49:30.:49:32.

what have they been talking about, starting six weeks ago? At the

:49:33.:49:37.

beginning of May we have a plural discussion with people talking about

:49:38.:49:44.

Diane Abbott, there is a feeling of confidence after gains in the

:49:45.:49:46.

mayoral leadership elections, but the main theme tying this discussion

:49:47.:49:52.

together is the thing which the election was meant to be all about,

:49:53.:49:57.

and that is Brexit, the European Union, Brussels. That is what the

:49:58.:50:00.

Conservatives were talking about at the beginning of May. Again, fast

:50:01.:50:04.

forward to this week and we are living in a different world. Two

:50:05.:50:09.

things that are interesting, first the Conservatives are discussing

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much more this week than before the polling, which shows a narrowing of

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the leaves which the Conservatives hold over Labour, and they are using

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words like you guv, observation, polling, discussing that, wondering

:50:24.:50:26.

should they be worried? But the main discussion again has been around

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London Bridge, it has been around terrorism and extremism, and instead

:50:32.:50:34.

of talking about policies that Britain has taken leading up to this

:50:35.:50:39.

attack, they are talking about the terrorists themselves, the

:50:40.:50:42.

extremists themselves, and the need for us to do something? Thank you

:50:43.:50:47.

for your company over the last six weeks. Let me bring you this news.

:50:48.:50:54.

Norman Smith was reporting earlier from Westminster that Diane Abbott

:50:55.:50:59.

is not very well, and is going to be replaced in her role as Labour's

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home affairs spokesperson. This news just in. Apparently the period of

:51:04.:51:08.

being replaced is indefinite, according to at Millbank. She is

:51:09.:51:15.

being replaced and that period of time is indefinite. Still to come on

:51:16.:51:19.

the programme, vaccinating boys against HPV. We will tell you

:51:20.:51:24.

exactly what HPV is and we will be hearing from some of those affected

:51:25.:51:25.

by it. A 20 year old woman in the States

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is being accused of using texts to encourage her boyfriend

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to kill himself. 20 year old Michelle Carter has gone

:51:38.:51:40.

on trial in Massachusetts, and is accused of voluntary

:51:41.:51:42.

manslaughter. In dozens of messages,

:51:43.:51:44.

Carter is alleged to have repeatedly urged 18 year old Conrad Roy III

:51:45.:51:49.

to kill himself. On the morning of his death,

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she wrote: "You need to do it, Conrad.

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You're ready and prepared." NBC Boston reporter John Moroney has

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been following the case and he joins us on the phone now from outside

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Tauton Juvenile Court Thank you for talking to us, John.

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Can you hear me OK? I can, thank you. Tell our British audience what

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this trial centres around. The centres around this relationship

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between these two young people. This happened three years ago, when

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Michelle Carter was 17. Conrad Roy III was 18. They have a relationship

:52:38.:52:43.

that had developed on social media, in what is really the focus of

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prosecutors and also the defence, these text messages that they shared

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over a period of time. I want point in time, the prosecution saying

:52:53.:52:56.

yesterday that she sent him dozens and dozens of messages, 40 in

:52:57.:53:02.

particular, asking him continually when he was going to do it, when he

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was going to take his life, because it was something he had talked about

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doing for a while, apparently, and in fact in 2012 he attempted to take

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his own life at that point in time but was unsuccessful. But then they

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developed a relationship, and Michelle Carter was troubled

:53:24.:53:27.

herself. This is when the text started. And she encouraged him,

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badgering him almost to take his life. That is what the prosecution

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is arguing. And what are the prosecution saying was her motive?

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They are saying that she was a student at Glenville high school and

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was not necessarily that popular but by becoming the grieving girlfriend,

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that she would become popular. She did after his death establish and

:53:57.:54:04.

run benefits to raise money and raise awareness about suicide, not

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mentioning or telling anyone that she had had these conversations and

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text messages with Conrad, putting his family, after he had died, she

:54:13.:54:21.

told his mother that she was sorry about what had happened, and that

:54:22.:54:26.

she had done everything she could to prevent him from taking his own

:54:27.:54:32.

life. I will read some more of the text messages for our audience. I

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already mentioned one in the introduction. You need to do it,

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Conrad. Michelle Carter texted him that on the morning of the 12th of

:54:43.:54:46.

July. The day that he took his own life. You are ready and prepared.

:54:47.:54:51.

All you have to do is turn the generator on and you will be free

:54:52.:54:55.

and happy. She told him and another message, you are finally going to be

:54:56.:54:58.

happy in heaven with no more pain. It is OK to be scared and it is

:54:59.:55:03.

normal. I mean, you are about to die. Then this: I thought you wanted

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to do this. The time is right and you are ready. Just do it, baby.

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You have explained it was so she could raise funds and raise

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awareness, but is the prosecution also saying it is about her getting

:55:17.:55:17.

attention? That's correct. She noticed that she

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would receive sympathy as a grieving girlfriend and she took it a step

:55:31.:55:36.

further, by going out and soliciting, raising awareness about

:55:37.:55:39.

suicide. But it was all motivated by the fact that, according to the

:55:40.:55:45.

prosecution, she wanted attention. But you read the text messages and

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they were read in court yesterday, and they have been out to some

:55:49.:55:56.

degree but to give them read in court was shocking. Her defence team

:55:57.:56:01.

yesterday, the day before yesterday, decided that they would not have a

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jury trial, that they would only go before a judge who will decide

:56:06.:56:12.

whether or not she's guilty. And I think a lot of the speck elation is

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that because these text messages are so difficult to hear for a jury,

:56:17.:56:23.

that perhaps they did not want to do that, to have a jury consider it. So

:56:24.:56:27.

instead they are going to a bench trial where a judge will make the

:56:28.:56:33.

determination because hopefully the defence feels, he will take the

:56:34.:56:41.

emotion out of it when a verdict is rendered. The audience will

:56:42.:56:46.

understandable manslaughter means, we have a charge of manslaughter

:56:47.:56:56.

when the person did not have any intent. What has Michelle Carter

:56:57.:57:00.

been charged with? She has been charged with involuntary

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manslaughter, which is just a different use of the language. In

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terms of involuntary manslaughter, I am not a lawyer myself but it is

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somewhat similar. Thank you very much, John. John Maroni, outside the

:57:19.:57:25.

court in Massachusetts. And we will obviously bring you the defence when

:57:26.:57:29.

that is a in the court case. Let me reduce the messages from you run the

:57:30.:57:38.

country. 24 hours ahead of the voting in the general election.

:57:39.:57:42.

Marilyn has e-mailed to say, I am voting Lib Dem. In a final,

:57:43.:57:46.

desperate attempt to vent our exit from the EU, which was a decision

:57:47.:57:51.

based on so much misinformation. And this from Angela. I am undecided, I

:57:52.:57:55.

want a party that is going to support our police officers and

:57:56.:57:59.

given the resources they need, and I feel that our laws need changing on

:58:00.:58:03.

terrorism. The police should be able to arrest people on their radar and

:58:04.:58:08.

extremists to make it a safer world. Thank you for those. Particularly if

:58:09.:58:10.

you are undecided, we're very interested to hear what it is that

:58:11.:58:16.

you are weighing up, 24 hours before the polls open. You can message us

:58:17.:58:23.

on Twitter, or on Facebook. The latest news and sport is on the way

:58:24.:58:27.

at ten o'clock but before that, the weather, with Matt Taylor. And it is

:58:28.:58:29.

called. It certainly has been. And a bit

:58:30.:58:38.

stormy. The wind is particularly strong, unseasonably so for June.

:58:39.:58:42.

The best of the gusts on the Aberdeenshire coast. With the trees

:58:43.:58:46.

in full leaf, and has led to seems like this one, captured in Somerset.

:58:47.:58:51.

It was not just about the cold and the wind yesterday. It was also

:58:52.:58:56.

about the rain. Edinburgh, for instance, had well over a month's

:58:57.:59:00.

worth following just a day and a half. 83 millimetres in total. It

:59:01.:59:05.

has stopped raining here now at least but as our weather watchers

:59:06.:59:08.

have shown us, it is still raining across parts of eastern Scotland.

:59:09.:59:11.

This was Aberdeenshire a short while ago. But it is now in the minority

:59:12.:59:17.

because more blue skies are overhead. A better start of the day

:59:18.:59:21.

for the vast majority, probably the best day of the week for many. If

:59:22.:59:25.

you look across the satellite picture, we can see clear skies.

:59:26.:59:30.

Cloud in eastern Scotland producing heavy rain and gusty wind still

:59:31.:59:35.

around. But the wind will ease, and the rain is pushing away. At the

:59:36.:59:42.

same time, it is clouding over. Towards the end of the afternoon we

:59:43.:59:45.

will see better conditions across eastern Scotland. It could be still

:59:46.:59:51.

cloudy, damp and windy across Orkney, Shetland and Caithness.

:59:52.:59:54.

Elsewhere, dry with sunny spells. The morning sunshine will give way

:59:55.:59:58.

to more cloud in Northern Ireland, staying dry until late in the day.

:59:59.:00:02.

Across much of England and Wales, it will be a sunny afternoon. The

:00:03.:00:07.

sunshine turning hazy, but temperatures up on yesterday's

:00:08.:00:13.

values. South West Wales, Devon and Cornwall, finishing the afternoon

:00:14.:00:19.

with outbreaks of rain. Through tonight, the rain spreading

:00:20.:00:21.

erratically. Heaviest and most persistent on the hills. A bit of

:00:22.:00:24.

rain for Northern Ireland and southern Scotland but it will be dry

:00:25.:00:29.

for much of Scotland and Northern Ireland. With clear skies, a chilly

:00:30.:00:34.

night. Elsewhere, it should be a mild start.

:00:35.:00:45.

Sorry about that Matt. A lot more rain and then it will be sunny.

:00:46.:00:48.

Thank you very much. It's 10am.

:00:49.:00:52.

I'm Victoria Derbyshire. Less than 24 hours until you get to

:00:53.:01:00.

vote in Tom's UK general election. We will bring you reports from

:01:01.:01:06.

around the country and the latest in our Vic's van share.

:01:07.:01:11.

John Ashworth doesn't rule out throwing his hat into the leadership

:01:12.:01:17.

hat. Can't tell me how much a prescription costs. I was lucky

:01:18.:01:20.

enough to go to university before we had fees. I don't know what I would

:01:21.:01:25.

have done if I had come out with all those debts which young people kout

:01:26.:01:27.

of university with today. We'll

:01:28.:01:32.

hear more from Jon later. The HPG jab is given to teenage

:01:33.:01:44.

girls, but not boys, we will be asking why they don't get the same

:01:45.:01:45.

treatment? The battle for Raqqa -

:01:46.:01:51.

the so-called Headquarters of Islamic State -

:01:52.:01:56.

forces make a final push. Joanna Gosling is in the BBC

:01:57.:02:07.

Newsroom with a summary The final day of campaigning

:02:08.:02:12.

in the general election will see the party leaders on a hectic

:02:13.:02:16.

schedule of visits to key towns and cities across Britain

:02:17.:02:19.

in a last push for votes. Theresa May made an early morning

:02:20.:02:22.

visit to Smithfield meat market in central London with her husband

:02:23.:02:24.

Philip in the first The Labour Leader, Jeremy Corbyn,

:02:25.:02:27.

started his day addressing supporters in Glasgow and has

:02:28.:02:30.

a further six events The Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn,

:02:31.:02:32.

has said the Shadow Home Secretary, Diane Abbott, is unwell

:02:33.:02:38.

and is taking a break He said Ms Abbott, who withdrew

:02:39.:02:40.

from a debate on Women's Hour yesterday, had received "totally

:02:41.:02:47.

unfair" levels of abuse. Lyn Brown will stand

:02:48.:02:49.

in for Diane Abbott as shadow home secretary for what Labour says

:02:50.:02:51.

is an "indefinite" period of time. The Home Office is coming under

:02:52.:02:57.

mounting pressure to explain how one of the London Bridge attackers

:02:58.:03:00.

was able to return to the UK despite The Italian authorities

:03:01.:03:03.

said they had issued warnings about Yousef Zaghba

:03:04.:03:09.

after they suspected that he was a supporter

:03:10.:03:12.

of the Islamic State group who had In a further development,

:03:13.:03:15.

detectives have arrested a 30-year-old man on suspicion

:03:16.:03:19.

of terror offences in Police investigating

:03:20.:03:21.

the Manchester bombing in which 22 people were killed,

:03:22.:03:25.

have arrested a 38-year-old man at Heathrow Airport

:03:26.:03:27.

in a planned operation. He's the 19th person to be arrested.

:03:28.:03:32.

Seven are still in custody. An inquest into the 22 deaths

:03:33.:03:35.

at the Manchester Arena Reports from Iran say seven

:03:36.:03:38.

people have been killed. The state media says one of the

:03:39.:03:52.

attackers blew himself up. Across the city, at a shrine housing

:03:53.:04:05.

the tomb of Ayatollah Khomeini, founder of the Republic,

:04:06.:04:07.

a suicide bomber reportedly shot several people before

:04:08.:04:10.

detonating explosives. President Trump has spoken

:04:11.:04:11.

to the King of Saudi Arabia to discuss his country's decision

:04:12.:04:13.

to cut ties with Qatar because of its alleged support

:04:14.:04:16.

for extremist groups. Mr Trump had earlier backed

:04:17.:04:18.

the move, saying it could be "the beginning of the end

:04:19.:04:20.

to the horror of terrorism". A White House spokesman said

:04:21.:04:23.

the President had stressed the need There are calls for the HPV vaccine,

:04:24.:04:25.

which is currently only given to girls, to be received

:04:26.:04:29.

by boys too. The human papilloma virus jab

:04:30.:04:31.

is offered to teenage girls in the UK to protect

:04:32.:04:34.

against cervical cancer. But experts say there is increasing

:04:35.:04:36.

evidence on links between HPV After 10am, we'll be talking

:04:37.:04:38.

to a mum, who has had a HPV-related cancer

:04:39.:04:42.

herself, and wants her sons to receive the vaccine

:04:43.:04:44.

as well as her daughter. The American-based taxi firm, Uber,

:04:45.:04:51.

says it's sacked 20 employees after an investigation

:04:52.:04:58.

into complaints of sexual harassment, bullying

:04:59.:04:59.

and other issues. Uber has been under fire

:05:00.:05:01.

over its treatment of women staff since a former employee wrote

:05:02.:05:03.

a scathing blog post Most complaints came from workers

:05:04.:05:05.

at the firm's San Francisco base. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:05:06.:05:12.

News - more at 10.30am. Well, the difficulty of the Lions

:05:13.:05:20.

tour to New Zealand is becoming Of course, we knew the Test Series

:05:21.:05:27.

against the double world champions would be tough,

:05:28.:05:31.

but after a narrow win in their first match,

:05:32.:05:36.

they're currently in a real battle. Super Rugby side Auckland Blues had

:05:37.:05:39.

eight All Blacks in the starting The Lions responded well -

:05:40.:05:46.

Ireland back row CJ Stander bundled The Lions looked like they'd be up

:05:47.:05:55.

at half-time but Sonny Bill Williams fortunate try has

:05:56.:06:00.

put the Blues ahead. They lead 15-10 with around 20

:06:01.:06:01.

minutes to play at Eden Park. England cricket captain Eoin Morgan

:06:02.:06:04.

says they must "beat the best" in Australia on Saturday

:06:05.:06:07.

if they're to be considered contenders to win

:06:08.:06:09.

the Champions Trophy. They reached the semi-finals thanks

:06:10.:06:11.

to a 87-run victory over Half-centuries from Alex Hales,

:06:12.:06:13.

Joe Root and Joss Buttler guided England past the 300 mark

:06:14.:06:17.

before Liam Plunkett took four wickets to finish

:06:18.:06:20.

off the Kiwis' chase. If we're truly going to be

:06:21.:06:33.

contenders for this tournament we need to beat the best teams and

:06:34.:06:35.

Australia are one of the best teams. They always are going into a white

:06:36.:06:43.

ball tournament. They seem to produced limited overs at will so to

:06:44.:06:48.

go into a game like that with no other attitude than winning is very

:06:49.:06:50.

important to us. The Football Association

:06:51.:06:53.

has handed out lifetime bans for the first time,

:06:54.:06:55.

after two supporters made Nazi gestures at England's

:06:56.:06:57.

friendly against Germany The FA has vowed to tackle

:06:58.:06:58.

what it fears is a new In all, 27 fans have

:06:59.:07:02.

had their membership suspended. The supporters' club is the only way

:07:03.:07:07.

to obtain tickets to away matches. Great Britain won their first race

:07:08.:07:12.

in the America's Cup semi-finals in the most

:07:13.:07:15.

dramatic of circumstances. After going 3-0 down

:07:16.:07:18.

to New Zealand, Sir Ben Ainslie's team finally registered

:07:19.:07:21.

when their opponents capsized Luckily all of their

:07:22.:07:27.

crew members were OK. Our first thought was for the safety

:07:28.:07:36.

of the sailors on the boat and yeah, looking at the footage since, you

:07:37.:07:41.

know, it's clear they had a misjudgement on the daggerboard and

:07:42.:07:45.

lifted it out of the water too much and ran into an aggressive pitch. I

:07:46.:07:49.

don't think anyone is passing criticism because the boats are so

:07:50.:07:54.

tough to sail and it could happen to anyone. The most important thing is

:07:55.:07:58.

the crew is safe and they will come back and the fight continues.

:07:59.:08:03.

The Renault Formula One team have revealed that Robert Kubica has

:08:04.:08:05.

tested an F1 car for the first time since a rallying accident in 2011

:08:06.:08:08.

Renault posted pictures on Twitter of Kubica

:08:09.:08:13.

at a session in Spain, saying, "So guys, we need to come

:08:14.:08:16.

clean about something. It's true.

:08:17.:08:17.

It really is Robert Kubica, back in one of our cars after six years."

:08:18.:08:22.

They didn't reveal how quick he was, but it is an encouraging

:08:23.:08:25.

sign for one of the most popular drivers around.

:08:26.:08:29.

That's all the sport for now. We will be back with an update on the

:08:30.:08:35.

Lions at 10.30am. Over the course of the election I've

:08:36.:08:39.

been giving politicians from some of the main parties lifts

:08:40.:08:42.

between their campaign meetings. It has been quite a responsibility,

:08:43.:08:44.

honestly! The fourth and final passenger

:08:45.:08:48.

in our Vic's Van Share series is the man who hopes to run the NHS

:08:49.:08:51.

in England and Wales Speaking last week, before

:08:52.:08:54.

the London Bridge attack, Labour's Jon Ashworth told me

:08:55.:08:57.

about the stand-up row he had with Jeremy Corbyn,

:08:58.:09:01.

losing his dad to alcoholism and confirmed Labour

:09:02.:09:05.

would lift the freeze on some benefits despite this not

:09:06.:09:07.

being in their manifesto. He also failed to rule out

:09:08.:09:12.

throwing his hat in the ring to lead his party one day,

:09:13.:09:15.

but will his singing help I just want to sing songs

:09:16.:09:18.

and pretend to be Peter Kay. That's the only reason

:09:19.:09:54.

I've agreed to do it. Don't do the boring

:09:55.:09:57.

policy questions. So, the IFS, the Institute

:09:58.:10:01.

for Fiscal Studies, independent, respected, as you know,

:10:02.:10:07.

have said that if you, if Labour win the election then

:10:08.:10:10.

the poorest 30% of households will suffer a significant hit

:10:11.:10:16.

in their income because you are not promising to reverse some

:10:17.:10:19.

of the cuts to benefits If you're going to be building more

:10:20.:10:21.

houses which is what we want to do, if you're going to be investing

:10:22.:10:30.

in wages, giving people a pay increase by increasing the minimum

:10:31.:10:33.

wage to ?10 an hour, obviously that will lift some people

:10:34.:10:36.

out of benefits, but it will mean more money coming

:10:37.:10:39.

into the Exchequer. But are you going to reverse

:10:40.:10:41.

the cuts to child tax credits? Well, we've opposed the cuts

:10:42.:10:46.

to child tax credits. Are you going to reverse them

:10:47.:10:48.

if you win the election? We cannot say we're going to reverse

:10:49.:10:51.

every single cut that's taken So you're not going to reverse

:10:52.:10:54.

the cuts to child tax credits? Are you going to lift the freeze

:10:55.:10:57.

on working age benefits? Look, benefits won't need to be

:10:58.:11:00.

frozen under a Labour government because we're going to put

:11:01.:11:08.

the money into... We're going to lift the freeze

:11:09.:11:10.

on some of the benefits, yes. That's why we've allocated

:11:11.:11:15.

this extra ?2 billion. You might well borrow

:11:16.:11:16.

?250 billion over ten years to invest in infrastructure,

:11:17.:11:19.

in roads and new hospitals and in infrastructure,

:11:20.:11:21.

in big building projects. How much will the economy grow

:11:22.:11:22.

if you spend, if you borrowed ?250 billion and spent

:11:23.:11:27.

it on infrastructure? Well, the IFS, funnily enough,

:11:28.:11:34.

have said we would grow the economy by a percentage higher

:11:35.:11:37.

than what the Conservatives Although I don't have that

:11:38.:11:39.

particular figure in front of me. But they certainly were saying

:11:40.:11:45.

we would grow the economy more. When borrowing rates are so low,

:11:46.:11:50.

I think you can invest in the infrastructure

:11:51.:11:54.

of the country, you can invest in schools and hospitals

:11:55.:11:56.

and road-building and extending Our levels of investment

:11:57.:11:58.

in infrastructure are terrible. When compared Europe

:11:59.:12:08.

and other countries. People are worried about adding

:12:09.:12:10.

to the debt pile, though. The nation's debt pile.

:12:11.:12:12.

?250 billion would add to it. If you can do it, in a way

:12:13.:12:15.

by which by the end of the period you've got debts as a proportion

:12:16.:12:18.

of GDP coming down, it seems to me sensible to be investing

:12:19.:12:22.

in the infrastructure. Do you know how many council homes

:12:23.:12:23.

the last Labour government built? I've not got that figure

:12:24.:12:27.

on me at the moment. It's about 7,800 under

:12:28.:12:30.

the last Labour government. Margaret Thatcher's government built

:12:31.:12:42.

around 17,000 in one year. Are you shocked that her government

:12:43.:12:45.

built more council homes in one year than under the entire period

:12:46.:12:48.

of office that New Labour was in? No, I'm not shocked,

:12:49.:12:53.

because when we came into government in 97,

:12:54.:13:00.

the housing stock in this country was in such a state

:13:01.:13:02.

that the priority for the first period of the government

:13:03.:13:04.

was to invest in upgrading Me and my wife have a mortgage

:13:05.:13:07.

on our house in Leicester. Yes, but we're paying

:13:08.:13:14.

a mortgage on it. Why are you planning

:13:15.:13:23.

to spend ?56 billion on the university tuition

:13:24.:13:32.

fees of students and ?37 billion We just don't think it's fair that

:13:33.:13:35.

students are racking up Even the sons and daughters of chief

:13:36.:13:38.

executives, bankers, property millionaires,

:13:39.:13:42.

you want to pay their university tuition fees,

:13:43.:13:43.

when they can afford it? A highly educated population

:13:44.:13:45.

contributes to the good I was lucky enough to go

:13:46.:13:47.

to university before we had fees. I just don't know what I would have

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done if I'd come out with all those debts

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which young people come out You've said you will give NHS staff

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a pay rise, how much, A percentage rise is

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about half a billion, 2% rise is about ?1 billion,

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so we think it's affordable. Is that cost part of your ?37

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billion going into the NHS? That is part of the money

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going into the NHS, yes, but we think it's deliverable,

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based on the calculations OK, two years ago you failed to vote

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against the Government's Welfare Bill, and that was the bill that cut

:14:26.:14:35.

the benefit cap from 26,000 to 23,000, that abolished

:14:36.:14:39.

legally-binding child-poverty targets, that cut housing

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benefit to the young. That was the position

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of the Labour Party. You cannot have a principled

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opposition if you are I followed the position of the front

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bench because I'm a loyal I'm a Labour MP who gets

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on and supports the Labour Party. The position of the Labour Party

:15:04.:15:07.

front bench was to support an amendment which said,

:15:08.:15:10.

"We reject this bill." Well, I suspect the position

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would be different this time, so we would not vote the same

:15:13.:15:19.

way this time. How do you think the campaign

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is going for Labour at this point? I think the Conservatives thought

:15:24.:15:29.

they could take people for granted, that they could glide through this

:15:30.:15:31.

election with trite slogans, and there is a feeling

:15:32.:15:34.

they have been trying to take When you are driving

:15:35.:15:36.

around, campaigning, in your car with your team,

:15:37.:15:41.

what do you sing? It's really funny -

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I go out campaigning, like the North-East or wherever,

:15:53.:15:54.

and you often get picked up by a Labour Party volunteer

:15:55.:16:00.

and they want to talk about policy, but I like to plug in my iPhone

:16:01.:16:03.

and sing along to cheesy music and think I am Peter

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Kaye in Car Share. # Whatever it takes

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is what I'm going to do. # And we can build

:16:09.:16:28.

this thing together. # When this world runs out of

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lovers # Nothing's gonna stop us,

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nothing's gonna stop us now. Nothing's gonna stop you,

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except potentially Theresa May? I think I have just ended my career

:17:13.:17:21.

by singing that in such a daft way, but anyway, you've got to have a bit

:17:22.:17:26.

of fun in an election campaign. Does that represent

:17:27.:17:30.

how you are feeling, "Nothing's gonna stop us,

:17:31.:17:31.

not even the Conservatives I don't know, it's

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just a bit of fun. We've got to stop

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Theresa May, I think Jeremy Corbyn would be

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a better Prime Minister? Hang on a minute,

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I have just asked you. Jeremy Corbyn is

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principled and honest. Would Jeremy Corbyn be

:17:49.:17:50.

a better Prime Minister? You have spent your whole

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adult life in politics, you started off as a researcher -

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what were you next? Then a deputy political secretary,

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then a political secretary, then head of campaigns,

:18:13.:18:19.

then a candidate, then an MP. You've never had a proper

:18:20.:18:21.

job in the real world? People who work in

:18:22.:18:29.

politics, they are jobs. We still have to pay the mortgage,

:18:30.:18:36.

I still have to get the kids from school and get them

:18:37.:18:39.

breakfast in the morning. I'm from a very normal

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working-class background, my mum was a barmaid,

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my dad was a croupier in a casino. A lot of my life I spent

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looking after a father, Weekends, as a teenager I would go

:18:47.:18:49.

back to stay with my dad, I would open the fridge

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and it was just big bottles of white wine

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and cans of beer, no food. I would have to go

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and sort it out myself. I went home one Christmas

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and my dad said, "I'm off, He literally just went off

:19:14.:19:15.

to Thailand, I didn't see him again. I got the call two years later,

:19:16.:19:24.

saying that he was dead. And it was drink, he had been

:19:25.:19:27.

drinking a bottle of whiskey a day. So you're right, I have been

:19:28.:19:34.

a special adviser and researcher and all the rest of it,

:19:35.:19:37.

but I have had some Do you want to have a crack

:19:38.:19:39.

at the leadership one day? We've got a leader

:19:40.:19:53.

of the Labour Party. Do you want to have a

:19:54.:19:55.

crack at it one day? There are loads of Labour MPs who

:19:56.:19:59.

would fancy their chances one day. It is my dream job, every day I feel

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honoured that I got it, and I am hoping the people

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in my constituency re-elect me, but all of the other jobs

:20:29.:20:32.

in politics, I'll have to see You are in politics to make

:20:33.:20:35.

a difference, to change You will think, "What a cliche," but

:20:36.:20:39.

actually that is what motivates me. If that means I'm a Health

:20:40.:20:45.

Secretary, Shadow Health Secretary, or a different role,

:20:46.:20:48.

we'll see where it goes. Yeah, I know politicians are now

:20:49.:20:52.

meant to say yes, make it look like they had an interesting

:20:53.:21:03.

life, but I didn't. Sorry, I know I will get

:21:04.:21:06.

the Corbynistas tweeting me, having a right go at me,

:21:07.:21:11.

but Gordon gave me a job. He gave me a job when I was a young

:21:12.:21:14.

man, he gave me an opportunity, I'll always have

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a loyalty to Gordon. Finish the line of this song,

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"I'm in love with the shape of you." It is going to be

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really obvious now? The biggest-selling track of this

:21:31.:21:34.

year, 18 weeks at number one. "I'm in love with the shape of you,

:21:35.:21:37.

push and pull like a magnet do." "Although my heart is falling too,

:21:38.:21:50.

I'm in love with the shape of you." "I was working as a waitress

:21:51.:21:59.

in a cocktail bar." # I was working as a waitress

:22:00.:22:08.

in a cocktail bar when I met you. Oh, no, it's one of those questions

:22:09.:22:11.

where you catch us out. Everybody is saying,

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Shadow Health Secretary, They are all going to be

:22:32.:22:32.

tweeting about it now. How many times have Leicester City

:22:33.:22:37.

been finalists in the FA Cup? Name me a band that

:22:38.:22:40.

you love from the 1980s. I love singing along

:22:41.:22:50.

to cheesy songs from the 80s, like Together In Electric Dreams,

:22:51.:22:53.

or a bit of Madonna. Do you know the words

:22:54.:22:56.

to Like A Virgin? Last time you had an argument

:22:57.:23:03.

with Jeremy Corbyn? Probably when he took me off

:23:04.:23:11.

the National Executive Committee. Was it just you and him

:23:12.:23:13.

shouting at each other? We had words, let's

:23:14.:23:23.

put it like that. To be blunt, on some

:23:24.:23:27.

of the votes I voted the way I'm sure victor Dharmesh said that

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John Ashworth could sing. She lied! -- Victoria Derbyshire said.

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So today is the final day of political campaigning

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before you cast your votes in the General Election tomorrow.

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Here's a look back at the past 7 weeks of campaigning.

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I have just chaired a meeting of the cabinet where we agreed

:24:57.:24:59.

that the Government should call a general election.

:25:00.:25:01.

Oh, for God's sake, honestly, I can't stand this.

:25:02.:25:04.

There's too much politics going on at the moment.

:25:05.:25:06.

Since I became Prime Minister I have said there should be no

:25:07.:25:17.

But now I have concluded that the only way to guarantee

:25:18.:25:20.

certainty and stability for the years ahead is to hold this

:25:21.:25:23.

election and seek your support for the decisions I must take.

:25:24.:25:28.

I welcome the opportunity for us to put the case to the people

:25:29.:25:31.

of Britain to stand up against the Government

:25:32.:25:33.

and its failed economic agenda, which has left our NHS in problems,

:25:34.:25:36.

our schools underfunded, so many people uncertain.

:25:37.:25:42.

It is very clear that the Prime Minister's announcement is one

:25:43.:25:45.

all about the narrow interests of her own party, not the interests

:25:46.:25:48.

We want to put a case out there to the people of Britain

:25:49.:25:54.

of a society that cares for all, an economy that works for all,

:25:55.:25:57.

It is an opportunity for the people of this country to change

:25:58.:26:05.

the direction of this country, to decide that they do not want

:26:06.:26:08.

a hard Brexit, or to keep Britain in the single market,

:26:09.:26:11.

and indeed an opportunity for us to have a decent,

:26:12.:26:13.

strong opposition in this country that we desperately need.

:26:14.:26:36.

With the right Brexit deal secured, my mainstream Government

:26:37.:26:38.

Whatever your age or situation, people are under pressure

:26:39.:26:41.

Now more than ever, Scotland needs strong SNP voices at Westminster.

:26:42.:26:51.

Plaid Cymru exists to defend and build up our country.

:26:52.:26:57.

We have shown time and again you do not need the keys

:26:58.:27:00.

to Number Ten to open the door to change.

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I believe in our great country, I believe in British values,

:27:06.:27:10.

The Government I lead will build a Britain

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Labour is guaranteeing the triple lock to protect pensioners' incomes.

:27:14.:27:19.

Can you tell the British people tonight that you support

:27:20.:27:22.

We're going ahead with the programme that has been

:27:23.:27:28.

Listen, my views on nuclear weapons are well known.

:27:29.:27:39.

Does North Korea receive money from the UK aid budget?

:27:40.:27:42.

We have got to tackle and address and challenge extremism

:27:43.:27:50.

I believe very strongly that we have to do that

:27:51.:27:54.

We mustn't scapegoat the Muslim community.

:27:55.:28:01.

You tried to take Personal Independence Payments away

:28:02.:28:03.

from people with disabilities and then you turned yourselves

:28:04.:28:05.

There is no extra payment you don't want to add to,

:28:06.:28:14.

no tax you don't want to rise, but we have to concentrate our

:28:15.:28:17.

resources on the people who need it most.

:28:18.:28:19.

We want to see corporation tax reduced, not raised,

:28:20.:28:21.

because if you raise it, companies will leave this country.

:28:22.:28:24.

If Jeremy cared about having enough money to spend on those

:28:25.:28:33.

who need it the most, to raise living standards,

:28:34.:28:37.

he would not have trooped through the lobbies

:28:38.:28:43.

with the Conservatives and Ukip to trigger Article 50

:28:44.:28:45.

Our schools are underfunded, our hospitals are overcrowded,

:28:46.:28:53.

our students are saddled with debt, there is a growing housing crisis.

:28:54.:28:56.

People on the lowest incomes have been hit by welfare cuts.

:28:57.:28:59.

We will always provide that safety net where it is needed.

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I will give you the figure in a moment.

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You've announced a major policy and you don't know

:29:06.:29:10.

Can I give you the exact figure in a moment?

:29:11.:29:14.

Why should the public trust anything you say or any of your policies

:29:15.:29:40.

when you have a track record of broken promises and backtracking?

:29:41.:29:49.

Why have you never regarded the IRA as terrorists?

:29:50.:29:55.

My wage slips from 2009 reflect exactly what I am earning today.

:29:56.:29:58.

How can that be fair in light of the job that we do?

:29:59.:30:01.

We have had to take some hard choices across the public

:30:02.:30:12.

sector in relation to public-sector pay restraint.

:30:13.:30:14.

But there isn't a magic money tree we can shake that suddenly provides

:30:15.:30:17.

Is Labour's manifesto a realistic wish list or is it just

:30:18.:30:21.

I think it is a serious and realistic document that

:30:22.:30:24.

addresses the issues that many people in this country face.

:30:25.:30:38.

We have been brave enough to put it out there with all

:30:39.:30:41.

I think you're losing a lot of votes from SNP supporters by continuing

:30:42.:30:46.

with the independence referendum at this time.

:30:47.:30:48.

I am not proposing it now, I accept that point.

:30:49.:30:50.

My simple proposition, it should be our choice, when the time is right

:30:51.:30:57.

and we know what breaks it means for our country, to decide what the

:30:58.:30:58.

future of Scotland should be. So what are the Conservatives,

:30:59.:31:16.

Labour and the other main parties doing today to win all those

:31:17.:31:19.

last minute votes? First to Chris Mason

:31:20.:31:21.

who is with the Jeremy Corbyn Good morning Victoria. The marathon

:31:22.:31:35.

is on when all the party leaders dash around all corners of the

:31:36.:31:39.

country to try and convince us that they're hard enough and they're go

:31:40.:31:45.

to woo and cajole every person who may not have made up their mind.

:31:46.:31:50.

Jeremy Corbyn started in Glasgow. He will roll up here in Runcorn in over

:31:51.:31:54.

an hour's time. Some Labour activists are gathering. The focus

:31:55.:32:00.

of his speech here will be the NHS. The big challenge for Jeremy Corbyn

:32:01.:32:04.

is trying to turn the depth of the support that we have seen a lot of

:32:05.:32:08.

his rallies in recent days, quite a few people already and plenty more

:32:09.:32:13.

likely to arrive in the next hour or hour and 20 minutes into the breadth

:32:14.:32:17.

you need to become Prime Minister. You become Prime Minister not by

:32:18.:32:21.

having a few million people who adore you, you need on top of that

:32:22.:32:27.

plenty who are happy to vote for you and to put up with you as Prime

:32:28.:32:30.

Minister. The challenge for Jeremy Corbyn is trying to spread out that

:32:31.:32:34.

support. But they are buoyed up and they are positive Labour. They feel

:32:35.:32:38.

like they have had a good last couple of weeks. Jeremy Corbyn likes

:32:39.:32:41.

it and enjoys it out on the stump. He is off to North Wales after he

:32:42.:32:44.

has been here. Then he heads to Watford and then he ends up in

:32:45.:32:49.

Islington, his home patch in North London. So, plenty of miles to go!

:32:50.:32:52.

Cheers, Chris, thank you very much. Sima Kotecha is with

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Tim Farron and the Liberal Tim Farron has just pulled this

:33:02.:33:11.

pint. This constituency voted Tory in 2005. It was a Tory seat until

:33:12.:33:17.

2015. And now the Lib Dems are hoping that they can win it because

:33:18.:33:21.

overwhelmingly it voted to Remain in the EU referendum. So as I said, he

:33:22.:33:26.

has been pulling pints and talking to businesses about the detrimental

:33:27.:33:30.

effects he says Brexit will have on businesses here and around the

:33:31.:33:36.

country. Now, remember at the front and centre of the manifesto has been

:33:37.:33:39.

a pledge if they were to win on Friday that they would have another

:33:40.:33:42.

referendum, where they would offer the people a chance to have a say on

:33:43.:33:47.

that crucial deal between Brussels and the Government. That has been

:33:48.:33:51.

the core of their message. They have also announced other eye-catching

:33:52.:33:55.

policies along the way including legalising cannabis and allowing

:33:56.:33:58.

tens of thousands of Syrian refugees to come in the country if they are

:33:59.:34:03.

successful. However, as I said, they've dubbed themselves as the

:34:04.:34:06.

anti-Brexit party from day one on this campaign. However, there has

:34:07.:34:09.

been a mixed reaction on the doorstep. Some people saying they

:34:10.:34:13.

feel irritated and frustrated that they're banging on about something

:34:14.:34:17.

they say that happened a year ago. But there are those who say well,

:34:18.:34:21.

hang on a mind the Government need to be held to account and they say

:34:22.:34:24.

the Liberal Democrats are the party to do that. We'll find out if that

:34:25.:34:27.

message has been successful on Friday.

:34:28.:34:36.

And Ben Wright is with Theresa May's campaign.

:34:37.:34:40.

There are red and blue bowling balls being rolled along this green in

:34:41.:34:45.

Southampton. Theresa May is here in Hampshire. The first stop of her

:34:46.:34:53.

final day of campaigning. We're in the constituency of Southampton

:34:54.:34:56.

Test. It has a Labour majority of just under 4,000. It is interesting

:34:57.:35:01.

she is here. Clearly, it is a seat she feels the Tories might be able

:35:02.:35:05.

to take. It's the start of a day where Theresa May will be

:35:06.:35:09.

criss-crossing England. Hampshire to begin with and then East Anglia and

:35:10.:35:13.

we rumble through to the Midlands and a rally this evening where this

:35:14.:35:17.

campaign will finish and I imagine we'll hear familiar themes all day

:35:18.:35:21.

about Brexit beginning soon after this election wraps up and the need

:35:22.:35:25.

for somebody to is serious about delivering it to be in charge of the

:35:26.:35:28.

negotiations. She will be framing the whole of today about a choice

:35:29.:35:34.

between herself and Jeremy Corbyn. The questions of security are going

:35:35.:35:38.

to feature. The announcement last night that she made that she maybe

:35:39.:35:41.

prepared to re-open, pick apart and look at Human Rights law if it helps

:35:42.:35:46.

to tackle extremism has clearly caused political controversy.

:35:47.:35:51.

Labour, the Lib Dems have criticised her approach on that, so that could

:35:52.:35:54.

be the issue we talk about during this final day of general election

:35:55.:35:55.

campaigning. And finally our political

:35:56.:36:06.

guru Norman Smith is in Westminster and

:36:07.:36:08.

more on the news that Dianne Abbott has stepped back

:36:09.:36:21.

from the campaign due to ill health. It seems that Diane Abbott is not at

:36:22.:36:27.

all well. We have had a statement from the Labour Party saying she is

:36:28.:36:31.

going to be replaced for the foreseeable as Shadow Home Secretary

:36:32.:36:36.

by Lynn Brown. Some folks saying she will be out of action indefinitely.

:36:37.:36:40.

We don't know what's wrong with her. But obviously, it looks a little

:36:41.:36:48.

more serious than a dickie heart or a migraine. Emily Thornbury was in

:36:49.:36:53.

here a short time ago saying how strong Diane Abbott was and she

:36:54.:36:55.

suggested some people should be ashamed of themselves for suggesting

:36:56.:36:59.

that you know she had been pulled back because Labour people didn't

:37:00.:37:02.

have confidence in her. Now, we don't know what's wrong with her,

:37:03.:37:06.

but clearly, she is not at all well. OK. So the last day of campaigning

:37:07.:37:11.

and for a final time let's look at the moments through the campaign.

:37:12.:37:18.

We need a general election and we need one now. To every city, every

:37:19.:37:24.

village, every town. We state a clear intention. B-the future of

:37:25.:37:28.

this country. The big question here is simply this. At what point... Are

:37:29.:37:33.

voters... Getting tired of politicians. Let me finish if you

:37:34.:37:40.

don't mind. So Norman take us through some of

:37:41.:37:44.

your picks of the campaign. So, I guess one of the things in an

:37:45.:37:47.

election campaign is it's a moment to get to know the political

:37:48.:37:53.

leadersment you get a sense of their character and what they are about

:37:54.:37:58.

and what sort of person, but Theresa May, any time anyone tried to get a

:37:59.:38:02.

sense of her likes and dislikes, they have been biffed away. Theresa

:38:03.:38:04.

May will not give us anything about the sort of person she is. You

:38:05.:38:08.

remember, she did that sort of quick fire interview when she was asked,

:38:09.:38:15.

you know, do you prefer broad church or Line of Duty. She was asked do

:38:16.:38:20.

you like Indian or Chinese take-aways. She said she didn't do

:38:21.:38:26.

take aways and she was asked if she preferred whisky or wine? She didn't

:38:27.:38:32.

answer. A journalist on ITV had one last effort in the dying days of the

:38:33.:38:37.

campaign to try and crowbar out a little more sell of personal

:38:38.:38:41.

information about Theresa May! What's the naughtiest thing you ever

:38:42.:38:49.

did? Oh goodness me, well, I suppose, gosh, do you know, I'm not

:38:50.:38:53.

quite sure. There must have been a moment? Nobody is ever perfectly

:38:54.:39:00.

behaved, are they? I have to confess when me and my friends used to run

:39:01.:39:04.

through the fields of wheat, the farmers weren't too pleased about

:39:05.:39:08.

that. Evil. Evil. How has Theresa May managed to live with that all

:39:09.:39:13.

her life. If I was a farmer, I would be on the blower, I would say, "It

:39:14.:39:19.

was that Theresa from the vicarage, she was running through the fields

:39:20.:39:22.

of corn. What are you going to do about it?" What about Jeremy Corbyn?

:39:23.:39:25.

If you're going to launch a policy, the basic rule is get your facts

:39:26.:39:30.

sorted out and above all, know how much it's going to cost. Second, tip

:39:31.:39:36.

to politicians, if you're going a radio interview, don't think no one

:39:37.:39:40.

can see you. We have cameras in the studio. We can see you tapping away

:39:41.:39:44.

on your iPad trying to get the answers! Look at Jeremy Corbyn! How

:39:45.:39:50.

much will it cost to provide unmeans-tested childcare for 1.3

:39:51.:39:56.

million children? Maria Miller, it will cost Maria Miller, it will

:39:57.:40:03.

obviously cost a a lot to do so. I presume you have the figures. I will

:40:04.:40:07.

give you the figure in a moment. You don't know it. You're logging into

:40:08.:40:12.

your iPad here. You've announced a Mabelingor policy and you don't know

:40:13.:40:16.

how much it'll cost. What a nightmare! Last off, Nicola

:40:17.:40:21.

Sturgeon, the SNP have been quite good at arranging lots and lots of

:40:22.:40:25.

events to get Scotland's First Minister out and about. But, some of

:40:26.:40:30.

these photo opportunities have become sort of photo opportunities

:40:31.:40:35.

from hell and you can see Nicola Sturgeon just thinking, "What am I

:40:36.:40:36.

doing here?" Like aerobics. You can see her

:40:37.:40:54.

thinking, "Who on earth decided on this?" She hasn't got her high

:40:55.:41:01.

heels. Ice creams, be careful of ice creams. This one is melting quickly.

:41:02.:41:04.

It's going to dribble all over the place! And what on earth is that? I

:41:05.:41:11.

mean, I'm not a great cook, but honestly, that does not look that

:41:12.:41:18.

appetising. It's a meat pie, ain't it? Everyone knows it's a meat pie.

:41:19.:41:23.

I'm not feeling enthusiastic about that meat pie. It's not exactly

:41:24.:41:29.

making me hungry. Maybe Jon Ashworth should have been crowbared with the

:41:30.:41:33.

disco dancing in the van. That was very good. I liked that. He loved

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it. He loved it. I don't know what that says. What does it say if a

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politician really wants to sing and if a politician doesn't want to

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sing? Let's not answer that. Let's leave it hanging there. Thank you

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very much, Norman. Our election programme on the BBC tomorrow night

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with David Dimbleby and Emily Maitlis, with all the people you'd

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expect throughout the night on the BBC bringing you the results.

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We'll be asking why hundreds of thousands of teenage boys

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are being denied a potentially life saving vaccine which is routinely

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And as the battle for Raqqa - the headquarters of so-called

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Islamic State in Iraq - rages, we'll hear from

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an organisation helping those who've escaped the city.

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Almost 400,000 teenage boys a year are currently denied a vaccine that

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The Human Papilloma Virus, or HPV, jab is only offered to teenage girls

:42:36.:42:49.

in the UK to protect against cervial cancer.

:42:50.:42:53.

The virus which is transmitted through sexual

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contact leads to lots of different types of infection and in some

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In the UK, girls aged 12 to 13 have been vaccinated

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So why are boys not getting the same treatment?

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Steve Bergman was diagnosed with throat cancer in 2015 through

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Jill De Nardo was diagnosed with anal cancer in 2009.

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She has a daughter who received the vaccine

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Tristan Almada is the founder of the HPV and Anal Cancer Foundation.

:43:20.:43:26.

Welcome all of you. Thank you for coming on the programme. Explain

:43:27.:43:34.

what the Human Papilloma Virus is. It's a virus that everyone comes

:43:35.:43:38.

into contact with at some point in their life. We think that 80% of

:43:39.:43:42.

sexually active people will test positive at some point for HPV. It

:43:43.:43:50.

causes 5% of all cancers and some of the fast increasing cancers in the

:43:51.:43:55.

UK today for example throat cancer are caused by this virus. We don't

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know why some people who get diagnosed with HPV such as my

:43:59.:44:05.

mother, progressed to cancer and end up passing away. We don't know why

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others resolve the virus on their own. OK, but you said it was

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ubiquitous so we all have it. We have the propensity to have it? If

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you have had sex once, you have come into contact with HPV, you have it,

:44:20.:44:25.

I have it, Joe has it. It is unavoidable. You can pass it through

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passionate kissing or through any means of contact. OK. You mentioned

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your personal experience. Tell us a little more about that if that's OK?

:44:35.:44:45.

In 2010 my mother passed by away from stage four APV related cancer.

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She invested every ounce of loving energy into the upbringing of my

:44:51.:44:54.

sisters and myself and when she passed away, my sisters and I

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thought well, is there something that we can do to prevent the

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devastation that happened to our family from happening to anyone ever

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again? Watching someone deteriorate in your hands, the most important

:45:07.:45:10.

person in your life and it's not just the side-effects from the

:45:11.:45:14.

chemotherapy that cause your hands to feel numb so for the case of my

:45:15.:45:19.

mother, she had this dream to be a landscape architect and she used to

:45:20.:45:22.

work in public relations and she don't draft because her hands were

:45:23.:45:28.

so numb. But in addition to the emotional anxiety and the stigma

:45:29.:45:32.

associated with HPV because people don't understand what it is, so she

:45:33.:45:36.

couldn't relate her diagnosis to her friends and family because she was

:45:37.:45:41.

afraid of what they might say. HPV, how do you get that, anal cancer,

:45:42.:45:47.

how do you get that? The only thing that made her at risk was that she

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was a human being. Jill, you were diagnosed with anal cancer in 2009.

:45:54.:46:01.

Can you relate to what tris tran is saying about the stigma?

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Diagnosed at the same age. I did not really tell anybody that it was anal

:46:08.:46:16.

cancer at the time, I said it was bowel cancer but the more I

:46:17.:46:23.

realised, the more I thought about it, the less I would be aware. It

:46:24.:46:27.

was Tristan's family that made me aware of the HPV connection with the

:46:28.:46:31.

cancer. That is when I start to get very angry. The fact that it was not

:46:32.:46:35.

known to many people. My daughter was potentially protected against

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it, but my sons were not. And we are awaiting a decision as to whether

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teenage boys will be routinely vaccinated. What is the argument for

:46:49.:46:52.

only vaccinating teenage girls? I do not think there can be an argument.

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Look at this picture here. These are my three children. They all went

:46:58.:47:00.

through routine vaccinations, they went through the normal inoculations

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that children have. Why would any parents choose to discriminate

:47:05.:47:09.

against one child, in favour of the other two? My sons are too old for

:47:10.:47:12.

the vaccination to be properly protected, but if they had had the

:47:13.:47:16.

vaccination at the same age as my daughter, they would be protected.

:47:17.:47:21.

It is not good enough to say that they heard situation, where 85% of

:47:22.:47:28.

the girls are protected... If my son is having relationships with older

:47:29.:47:33.

people or girls from countries that have not been vaccinated, they are

:47:34.:47:38.

at just as much risk. Let me bring in Steve, who was diagnosed with

:47:39.:47:42.

cancer in 2015. How are you at the moment? I am great, thank you. You

:47:43.:47:48.

thought it was glandular fever. Yes. My wife and I, we looked at the

:47:49.:47:55.

consultations on the internet, and I had all the symptoms of glandular

:47:56.:47:58.

fever so we went along and somebody whacked me round the head and said,

:47:59.:48:04.

you have got cancer. And how did you react to the fact that it was throat

:48:05.:48:11.

cancer caused by HPV? It took a while for me to digest what it was

:48:12.:48:15.

about. I think it is important to say that I am a heterosexual man. I

:48:16.:48:20.

have family and a daughter, and this can happen to anyone. What happened

:48:21.:48:27.

to me, all of a sudden my whole world was completely consumed by

:48:28.:48:35.

trying to get healthy again. Within eight days I was whipped into

:48:36.:48:41.

hospital and I had a massive tumour removed from my throat and my right

:48:42.:48:46.

tonsil. I had a tracheotomy put in there. And I started seven months of

:48:47.:48:58.

recovery, settling into that, and then a couple of months of

:48:59.:49:03.

chemotherapy, and then quite radical radiotherapy because this part of

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the body, it's a really busy part of the body. And it had a massive

:49:10.:49:14.

impact on everything, saliva, food, everything. And then there is the

:49:15.:49:21.

after-shock, that once recovery has taken place, it is the emotional

:49:22.:49:27.

stuff, that has to be repaired. And that has taken a while. Do you mind

:49:28.:49:35.

me asking how old your doctor is? She is 23. So she is too late for

:49:36.:49:39.

this vaccine? No, she was the first year. Let me ask you the same

:49:40.:49:46.

question I asked Gill. Is there any argument for teenage boys, apart

:49:47.:49:49.

from cost, which is an issue with the NHS in England and Wales? It is

:49:50.:49:57.

not that much. Tell me why you believe teenage boys are not

:49:58.:50:05.

routinely vaccinated? There are 11 countries in the world that

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routinely vaccinate boys, including Austria, Brazil and Italy. Norway,

:50:10.:50:13.

Switzerland, the United States. We think it is a matter of time before

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everyone realises that this is, that this is the solution to solve a

:50:19.:50:22.

preventable cancer. The questionnaires, is the UK going to

:50:23.:50:26.

be the next country or a country that will make this decision a few

:50:27.:50:31.

years down the road. The argument to not vaccinate boys is that if you

:50:32.:50:36.

protect enough girls, and boys just have sex with the vaccinated girls,

:50:37.:50:39.

in theory you have protected those boys but if the boys travel or are

:50:40.:50:48.

older, or like older women or are gay, or meet women from other

:50:49.:50:53.

countries, they are not protected. It is just a very narrow way of

:50:54.:50:59.

viewing it. I think there is a lot of misinformation about HPV. We

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think about it as a cervical cancer jab. It is not that, it is a 5% of

:51:04.:51:08.

all cancers jab. Ten years ago there was a lot of data pointing to the

:51:09.:51:13.

fact that this was mostly about women, but since then we have

:51:14.:51:16.

realised that the burden also falls on them. Thank you very much, all of

:51:17.:51:21.

you, thank you for educating us. We await a decision. Let me bring you

:51:22.:51:31.

this sad breaking news. It is to do with a victim from the London Bridge

:51:32.:51:34.

terror attack. Detectives searching for the Frenchman, Xavier Thomas,

:51:35.:51:42.

who disappeared on Saturday night, have recovered a body from the

:51:43.:51:45.

Thames. Scotland Yard say that his next of kin have been informed.

:51:46.:51:53.

Xavier Thomas, who has not been seen since the terror attacks on Saturday

:51:54.:51:56.

night, his body has been recovered from the Thames near Limehouse.

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Scotland Yard say his next of kin have been informed.

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Next, we're going to talk about Raqqa in Syria, technically the

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headquarters of Islamic State. It is a city with a population of 200 or

:52:18.:52:23.

300,000, the size of a town like Rochdale. And now others are trying

:52:24.:52:28.

to take back control from IS, a selection of fighters known as the

:52:29.:52:33.

Syrian Democratic forces, backed by the United States. They launched an

:52:34.:52:37.

offensive this week to try to retake it. The US coalition said that the

:52:38.:52:41.

battle would be long and difficult and it is thought that between three

:52:42.:52:48.

and 4000 IS prisoners are holed up inside Raqqa. Islamic State have

:52:49.:52:52.

lost a lot of territory, as you can see from these maps, that they

:52:53.:52:54.

control at the start of last year. In March of this year, they lost the

:52:55.:53:00.

historic city of Chameera in Syria while the battle for Mosul, an

:53:01.:53:05.

important city in Iraq, is still ongoing. -- Palmyra. It would be a

:53:06.:53:14.

serious blow for Islamic states to lose Raqqa, where there organisation

:53:15.:53:20.

has been based for a number of years.

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We can chat about this more now with Charlie Winter who does

:53:21.:53:23.

lots of research on Islamic State for the International Centre

:53:24.:53:26.

for the Study of Radicalisation at Kings College London

:53:27.:53:28.

and Paul Donohoe from the International Rescue committee -

:53:29.:53:30.

an aid organisation who've been helping people who've

:53:31.:53:32.

Hello to you both. Thanks for talking to us. Charlie, how

:53:33.:53:38.

important is Raqqa to IS? Well, symbolically it is very important. I

:53:39.:53:46.

think if it is taken from Islamic State over the next few months, and

:53:47.:53:49.

it will take one time, it will be a big win the coalition. Over the last

:53:50.:53:54.

six months or so, Islamic State has been moving away from Raqqa to

:53:55.:54:10.

Easter Syria, so the thing is, the groups is Raqqa as its capital, but

:54:11.:54:15.

it is only a symbolic thing. Obviously it is going to be hugely

:54:16.:54:21.

important if it is taken. Poll, tell our audience about what life has

:54:22.:54:25.

been like inside Raqqa over the last few years? Well, unfortunately there

:54:26.:54:33.

have been 200,000 civilians trapped under ice is controlled Raqqa for

:54:34.:54:39.

three and a half years. We know from those who have escaped that every

:54:40.:54:44.

day has been terror, and in addition to the harsh rules that people know

:54:45.:54:50.

that those living under Isis have to adhere to, you can be executed for

:54:51.:54:53.

the slightest infraction. And in recent days we have heard that some

:54:54.:54:57.

people have been executed for being found to not be fasting or for

:54:58.:55:01.

trying to make contact with anyone outside the city. You can imagine it

:55:02.:55:05.

has been a very traumatic experience and a real ordeal, so one of the

:55:06.:55:09.

things we try to do as an aid agency, as well as providing

:55:10.:55:13.

life-saving AIDS, is to make sure that people get the proper

:55:14.:55:15.

specialist support they need to overcome what they have gone

:55:16.:55:19.

through. But things are going to get tougher as this battle rages? It's

:55:20.:55:25.

true. We are worried for the civilian still in the city that they

:55:26.:55:29.

are effectively being used as human shields. It is a tactic that ice of

:55:30.:55:32.

used and that means that they will be at real risk of being caught up

:55:33.:55:37.

in the fighting, as the assault makes it way through the city. Of

:55:38.:55:41.

course, also as locations and buildings are used by snipers, the

:55:42.:55:46.

civilians living in those buildings will unfortunately be killed. For

:55:47.:55:49.

those who have the opportunity to escape, they still face real risks,

:55:50.:55:58.

and we have met people who have seen family members killed as they

:55:59.:56:01.

crossed minefields. And some have been targeted by snipers. Charlie,

:56:02.:56:06.

is it accurate to say that Islamic State are struggling in Syria and

:56:07.:56:15.

Iraq or not? Absolutely. There is no two ways about it. They have lost a

:56:16.:56:18.

lot of senior figures in the leadership, they have lost thousands

:56:19.:56:21.

and thousands of square kilometres of territory. The most important

:56:22.:56:26.

resource is people. They need to be able to drop on people for recruits

:56:27.:56:30.

and supporters, and they have lost a lot of them along with the

:56:31.:56:36.

territory. They have lost access to the local population. The insurgency

:56:37.:56:38.

is struggling. And I am afraid to say that as its insurgency in Iraq

:56:39.:56:43.

and Syria is struggling, it has looked to attack elsewhere. And are

:56:44.:56:49.

we an increased threat because they are struggling in Syria? I think we

:56:50.:56:53.

are. We need to be careful about drawing to linear relationship, and

:56:54.:56:57.

certainly there is no two ways about it, terrorism as propaganda, it

:56:58.:57:05.

absolutely is propaganda. And as its momentum slows, as the ideology

:57:06.:57:09.

continues to flounder to ring the insurgency, it means that it needs

:57:10.:57:13.

to be able to derive that momentum from somewhere else and terrorism

:57:14.:57:16.

happens to be a very good way of doing it. There will be some people

:57:17.:57:22.

talking and listening to how you have described the lives of

:57:23.:57:25.

civilians in Raqqa you will want to do something. What can people do?

:57:26.:57:32.

Well, organisations like my own, the International Rescue Corps Mitzi, we

:57:33.:57:36.

have teams inside north-east Syria providing health care to people who

:57:37.:57:39.

have escaped and supporting people to rebuild their lives. One of the

:57:40.:57:43.

things that we're worried about is that over the years that the

:57:44.:57:47.

children have lived under Isis, many of them have not been in school and

:57:48.:57:51.

they have lost in education. We do not want a lost generation so

:57:52.:57:55.

long-term, any of the children that have escaped Isis areas in Syria and

:57:56.:57:59.

Iraq, that has to be part of the solution. Thank you very much, both

:58:00.:58:06.

of you. Charlie went from the international centre for the study

:58:07.:58:08.

of radicalisation and Paul Donohoe from the International Rescue Corps

:58:09.:58:11.

Mitty, thank you very much. Thank you for your messages today, whether

:58:12.:58:15.

you are undecided or whether you have made a decision about who you

:58:16.:58:19.

will vote for tomorrow. Robert says, it is my decision to vote

:58:20.:58:22.

Conservative because I cannot trust Jeremy Corbyn with the safety of the

:58:23.:58:28.

country. John says it is now time to support our National Health Service.

:58:29.:58:29.

Becky Bumic favelas. I want to know...

:58:30.:58:33.

..what will happen next. And I want to know...

:58:34.:58:38.

..what it all means...

:58:39.:58:41.

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