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Hello, it's Monday, it's 9am, we're in Westiminster,

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Where else would we be on the Monday after that election. We are on the

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rooftop, why not, overlooking the Houses of Parliament, as Theresa May

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insists she can stay on in Downing Street. I am pleased that people

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from across the party have agreed to serve in my cabinet and we are going

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to be getting on with the job of government. But talk of possible

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leadership challenges continues. Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

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however says he is backing the Prime Minister. Jeremy Corbyn did not win

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this election. It's absolutely right that she should go ahead, form a

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government, and deliver on the priorities of the pupils to -- of

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the people. Labour say they are ready for government.

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Meanwhile, Labour says they're ready for Government.

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Throughout the morning, we'll be joined by politicians

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And we're joined by an audience of voters.

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I am Hermione, I voted Liberal Democrat and I definitely do not

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want another general election. I voted for Labour and I think the

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parties need to come together. I voted Conservative, I am looking for

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us to move on. Wherever you are in the country, do let us know what you

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want to happen next. Rob has already tweeted me to say, I just want some

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peace and quiet! Whatever it is you want next, do let me know. You can

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e-mail, send me a message, or text. Hello, good morning. We are on top

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of a roof at Westminster. And it is a cloudy morning, an overcast

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morning, and it is the morning that Theresa May, another morning where

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Theresa May has to fight for her political life. She is going to meet

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her backbench Conservative MPs later and set out her case. In Downing

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Street. The Prime Minister will also chair

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a meeting of her newly Michael Gove, one of the driving

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forces behind Brexit, Mrs May is also still

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trying to secure a deal with the Democratic Unionists

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to ensure they'll back Our Political Correspondent

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Tom Bateman reports. Back at the heart of Government -

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Michael Gove's last regular appearances on this street

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were before to May became PM. She sacked her old opponent

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after the bruising EU He will now sit

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alongside Boris Johnson. The two men spectacularly

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fell out over the Tory The Foreign Secretary has denied

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having his eye on the top job again, calling for MPs to rally around Mrs

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May. Jeremy Corbyn did not

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win this election. It's absolutely right

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that she should go ahead, form a government and deliver

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on the priorities of the people. I'm going to be backing her,

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and absolutely everybody I'm talking to is going to be

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backing her as well. Mrs May's reshuffle sees

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Damian Green, an old friend of the Prime Minister,

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become first Secretary of State. Former Justice Secretary Liz

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Truss has been demoted, Other key figures staying where they

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are are Jeremy Hunt and Liam Fox. Mrs May will hope the reshuffle,

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most notable for its lack of changes, will help her

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reach out to Tory MPs. She said last night she intends

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to stay in her job. I said during the election

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campaign that if re-elected, What I am doing now is actually

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getting on with the immediate job. I think that is what is important

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and what the public would expect. They want to see

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Government providing that But life without a majority

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the House of Commons The PM may have to wave goodbye

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to some of her policy plans. Today, she will meet

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with her own backbenchers, many of whom will be

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looking for reassurances. She now faces the challenge

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of starting Brexit talks Norman Smith is here. Where are we

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this Monday morning? I think kind of the nearest analogy I can give is if

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you imagine getting a jigsaw, throwing it up in the air and land

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on the floor and nobody knows how to put the pieces back together.

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Basically, everything has changed. Mrs May is still in Downing Street,

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but what we saw over the weekend was the Cabinet seizing power. They are

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running the show, telling Mrs May how she will conduct herself and

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presenters of, how she needs to reach out of the party. Even talking

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about shaping the sort of policies she is going to pursue. And in terms

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of the manifesto are going to have to be jumped. The DUP, yes, it is

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probably going to be OK to get a deal on a ghostly basis, but that is

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perhaps the worst sort of arrangement for Mrs May. If you have

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a day by day deal, you need a Prime Minister who is a bit of a wheeler

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dealer, but arm round people's back and get them on board, come on,

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you're going to back us on this. Not the kind of politician that Theresa

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May is. On top of that, the battle lines are being drawn again over

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Brexit. It is where it clear we are heading for the Battle of Brexit.

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Round two, with all of the old Remainers thinking, right, now is

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our moment to pick away at some of the policies Mrs May was suggesting

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an Brexit, such as for example, maybe we will have no guilt. They

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don't want that. Maybe we could be in the Single Market and have a

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Norway option. For those who thought Brexit was signed, sealed and

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delivered, I'm afraid that whole row looks like starting again, as Mrs

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May Fozz opponents -- Mrs May's opponents use this moment to aim for

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a closer associate members of the EU, sort of half in, half out point

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thank you. Here's Joanna with a summary

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of the day's news. Exit polls following the first

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round of France's parliamentary election suggest President Macron's

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new centrist party is on course for a landslide victory.

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Projections show La Republique en Marche and its MoDem ally look set

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to win up to 445 of the 577 seats The party was only set up one year

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ago. Detectives investigating the London

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Bridge attack have made a further arrest in east London.

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in Barking on suspicion of terrorism offences shortly before

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Both the White House and Downing Street have dismissed

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a report that Donald Trump wants to delay his proposed state visit

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to the UK until he has the support of the British public.

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An online petition was signed by nearly two million

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people who wanted to block the American President's

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The opposition was inflamed by Mr Trump's criticism of London

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mayor Sadiq Khan's response to the London Bridge terror attack.

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A new poll suggests many children are confused about where their food

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comes from. One third of 5-7 year-old survey by the British

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nutrition foundation thought cheesecake came from a plant, not an

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animal. Nearly a quarter thought prawns come from plants, and a fifth

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of those questioned thought chips were also from animals.

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That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

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Now the sport, with Katherine Downes.

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Thanks, Joanne, such a busy weekend of sport. Chris Coleman thinks they

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need to win all four of their remaining World Cup qualifiers if

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they are to reach next year's finals. A penalty for Aaron Ramsey

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gave them the lead. But the home side levelled, leaving Wales four

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points behind. The Republic of Ireland drew with Austria. We were

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looking to win it in the last ten minutes. Once they equalised, you

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know, they have to and puffed, we had two or three breakaways there.

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It could have been different. Overall, good game, tough game, two

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good teams. For us one point is a good point. The England manager

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Gareth Southgate says it is up to clubs to nurture young talent.

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England National Football team have won a World Cup. Everton's Manik

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Calvert living with the goal. Goalkeeper Freddie Woodman making an

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amazing save to make sure that England lifted the trophy.

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Obviously, ultimately the aim is that those players come through to

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the seniors. A big part of that is for them to get opportunities with

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their clubs. I think they have shown that if the under 20s real world

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champions, there is enough players there to fulfil careers in the game

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without clubs looking elsewhere. History was made in Paris as well.

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Rafa Nadal thought he would be fishing on his boat of Majorca by

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now, not winning the French Open for a record tenth time. He cruised back

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Stan Wawrinka in ten sets to take his 15th major cycle. He has won

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Grand Slams in his teens, 20s and his 30s. And Lewis Hamilton's

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Formula 1 title challenge is back on track. He won the Canadian Grand

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Prix, leading from start to finish in Montreal to take the chequered

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flag for the sixth time and cut Sebastian Vettel's Championship lead

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to six points after he could only finish in fourth. My first win he

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was ten years ago. To repeat it this weekend is incredibly special. I

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really have to thank my team, who made this possible. The guys back at

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the factory have worked so hard to really fix what we had in the last

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race to bring it here. Sir Patrick Stewart was asking the questions, if

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you didn't recognise him! That's all the sport, back to you, Victoria, in

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Westminster. Thank you very much. More sport throughout the warning.

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Good morning, it is Monday morning, it is overcast and cloudy and warm,

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it is in mourning that Theresa May, the Prime Minister, for now, is

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fighting for her political life. So it is the morning.

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Theresa May is fighting for her political life this morning

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as she prepares to meet Conservative MPs to persuade them she can

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It looks like she'll be forced to abandon so many of the promises

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she'd made in the party manifesto - a manifesto many blame, in part,

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for the party's downfall in last weeks election -

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and she's had to bring back into her Cabinet Michael Gove,

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And if she does manage to cling on to power, overshadowing

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everything is the knowledge that in one week from today she must

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begin negotiations that will determine this country's future

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I have just chaired a meeting of the Cabinet...

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My simple proposition is, it should be our choice...

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We want to put a case out to the people of

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It's an opportunity for the people of this country

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People will write PhDs about the 2017 election

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I think we've witnessed a political earthquake.

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And what we're saying is the Conservatives

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Note they don't have an overall majority at this stage.

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314 for the Conservatives, that's down 17.

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If accurate, it means that Theresa May has just presided over

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the greatest catastrophe that I can think of in the Conservative

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I cannot see any way at all that the Conservatives can

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Loss after loss for the Conservatives.

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The Prime Minister called the election because

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Well, the mandate she's got is lost Conservative seats,

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lost votes, lost support, and lost confidence.

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She doesn't shy from difficult decisions, but she now has

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I have just been to the Her Majesty the Queen, and I will now form

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a Government, a Government that can provide certainty and lead Britain

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forward at this critical time for our country.

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The Prime Minister has spoken with me this morning,

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and we will enter discussions with the Conservatives to explore

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how it may be possible to bring stability to our nation at this time

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It's quite possible, quite possible there'll be

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an election later this year or early next year, and that might be a good

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thing because we cannot go on with a period

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Theresa May is a dead woman walking, it's just how long she's

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And I'm sorry, Theresa May, you can pray to God

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in that church right now - you have had it.

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She's won the most seats, 56 seats more than Labour,

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she's won the biggest share of the vote for 34 years.

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It wasn't the big majority that she wanted, that we wanted.

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We now have to get on and make the best of it.

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With me is Jacob Rhys Mogg. When the election was called you said it's

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always a good idea to trust the British people and ask them for

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their say. What do you think they have said with this outcome? What I

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do I think they have said? I think the Conservatives won. It is the

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highest share of the vote we've got since 1983... What do you think was

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said with the fact that there isn't a majority? They have said nothing

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about Brexit because Brexit was not at the heart of the campaign...

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That's what Theresa May wanted it to be? It is what she wanted, but it's

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not what she got. You get all the Remainers coming on now saying the

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campaign was all about Brexit. They said nothing beforehand. Now they

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say the voters said something they didn't. You say it's not about

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Brexit. Then what does it mean? I think we have to be honest about it,

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it was a raspberry at the Conservative manifesto. That was the

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bit that got us into trouble. I don't think it was... Brexit was in

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the Conservative manifesto. But that wasn't what was the focus of the

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campaign, was it? The campaign was about social care and Jeremy Corbyn

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campaigned well. He didn't do as well as Michael Howard in 2005, but

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nonetheless Jeremy Corbyn did much better than the expectations and

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politics is very much about expectation and momentum. I mean

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perhaps, sorry to interrupt, perhaps it was the electorate saying to Mrs

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May, we don't particularly like you. We don't particularly like your

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domestic pollees, we don't like your policy on Brexit? I don't think

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that's right because Mrs May got more votes than Tony Blair got in

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199 #. More physical number votes. I'm not trying to pretend the

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election was an enormous triumph, it wasn't as bad as some people have

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written up. Mrs May got a complete mandate. Last year you said Boris

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Johnson would make a great Prime Minister and leader of the

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Conservative Party. He has the sense to be a unifier and a representative

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of the nation on the world stage. Do you still believe that? I think

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Boris Johnson is a great man. One of the really big figures of British

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politics. Mrs May is the Prime Minister. There is no vacancies.

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Boris said he doesn't want to become leader now. Do you believe that? We

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need Mrs May to remain. We need Mrs May to deliver on Brexit. People

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have been talking about disasters. Disasters are when the Titanic sinks

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not and when your vote share goes up. Some people used the word

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catastrophe? Calm and deliberation is what we need and that leads us to

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the conclusion that Mrs May is the right... We have a selection of

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voters here. PROBLEM WITH SOUND

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You heard what Rhys Mogg said. Her campaign was about strong

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leadership, but in my view, what should have happened is to speak

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about the economy because in the last two elections when Mr Cameron

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was Prime Minister, that's what won the vote. I want to ask you is Mrs

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May the right lady to use Jacob Rhys Mogg's word for the job right now?

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That's what we've got and unfortunately that's got to remain.

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Who else wants to say something about that? Alex. I would like to

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ask a question if I could. I was really encouraged as a youth worker.

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I work in Luton and I was really encouraged that young people came

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out and voted and I'd love to know what you think young people have

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been saying in the vote because I think that's fascinating the early

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signs that we're seeing? It was very interesting and it's a change from

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previous elections. I think it's very good news. I think you have a

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better mandate for all MPs, the more people turn out to vote and the

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turn-out was up election. We're getting close to # 7% which was --

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70% which was routine. We need to use social media to communicate our

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message. The leaflets I put out are successful with a more mature

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community, but I'm not sure they are right for the younger votes and

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that's what we have got to get through. We don't have the exact

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figures, but when the election was called 1.5 million 18 to

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24-year-olds registered to vote. What do you think it is saying if

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turn-out among 18 to 24-year-olds is as high as people are saying. Are

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they saying we don't want a hard Brexit? They care about the future.

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They're voting for the NHS, they're voting for he had caution and voting

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for really key policies and I think they want a better future for

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everybody. Can I add one thing? Yes. The clear message from Brexit and

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from so many young people voting is people are fed-up with business as

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normal. They don't want the political elite of which I am a

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part, I can't depatch myself from it. They don't want the political

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elite carrying on as they have done. They want something fresher and a

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greater trust in democracy. But that's what Theresa May is doing.

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She is carrying on as though it is business as usual. Well, we still

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have to have a Government within this context. It is about the

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message that we've got to deliver and that's the key we should pick up

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from the general election. A quick show of hands. We have got a mixture

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of voters, Green, Lib Dems, Labour, Conservatives, who thinks it's right

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that Theresa May continues as Prime Minister now? Hands up. Right now.

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Right now. So most of you do. OK. That's interesting. That includes

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some Labour voters there as well. That's interesting. Alex, you're a

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Labour voter, why? It feels like in the short-term I would agree, we

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don't need another general election. That's crazy. I don't think she has

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the confidence of the country or the confidence of her party and I can't

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see it lasting long, but right now for the short season, perhaps it's

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right. All right, thank you. Doesn't it just show the wisdom of the

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British people? You gather together a group and they calmly want to see

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things carry on, having the country carrying on. That may not have been

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on the tip of our tongues, but it goes back to what you voted for. You

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can trust the people. The British people get things right. How long

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will Theresa May last? An eternity. Thank you very much. Thank you for

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coming on the programme. Much more from our voters and from politicians

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from all parties throughout the morning. Good morning. It's the

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Monday after that election! Welcome to Westminster. We're on a roof and

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why not? We've got a group of voters from different parties. We will hear

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from senior politicians, Labour defying all the pundits and some

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within their own party and celebrating the election result.

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Some say as if it was a have you beeningtry with many insisting they

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can still go on to form a Government.

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We have a chaotic situation with a Government that sought

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re-election on the basis of wanting a bigger mandate and a bigger

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majority to bring stability to British politics,

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A minority Government relying on the DUP to try and get business

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through the House of Commons when they have no agreed positions,

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as far as I can work out, on most issues.

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It seems to me chaotic, and I think we are quite ready

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and able to put forward a serious programme which obviously has

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Remember, this election campaign turned around a great deal

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on the basis of an awful lot of people rejecting the politics

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of fear and instead embracing the politics of hope that we can

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challenge austerity and we can actually start sharing the wealth

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Let's talk to Emily Thornbury who is the Shadow Foreign Secretary as you

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know and an Islington MP. Where are we today? Well, good question! I

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think that what has been so interesting in this election is that

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Labour has defied all expectations. I think that we've had a really

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popular manifesto that has drawn more and more and more support and I

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think that people realise that it doesn't have to be this way. There

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is an alternative. I think what's also really interesting is if you

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continue to look at the polling we continue to get even more popular

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after the general election and if an election was called today, we would

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win. There won't be an election today. I'm just saying. You asked me

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where we are, that's where we are. What are you going to do to

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capitalise on the extra MPs that you now have, not the largest party, but

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what are you going to did? We're going to make sure we hold their

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feet to the fire. So where we can, for example, on the Queen's Speech,

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we will be trying to ensure that we hold them to account, that where

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there are things that we profoundly disagree with them, where we think

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we will be able to defeat them, we will put out amendments and keep

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harrining them. Jeremy Corbyn said he would put down an amendment to

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the Queen's Speech. That's the Government's programme of

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legislation over however long. If you put down an amendment next

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Monday, what does that mean in practical terms? Explain to what our

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audience what you would be hoping to do with that amendment? The Queen's

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Speech is the opportunity for the Government to get the Queen to read

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for a couple of pages where she says my Government this and my Government

:26:34.:26:36.

that and it's supposed to be their vision for where they want to take

:26:37.:26:39.

Britainment we think very haven't got much of a vision and they have

:26:40.:26:43.

no idea what they are going to put in, they have to negotiate with

:26:44.:26:45.

their backbenchers and negotiate with the DUP. But we will have, we

:26:46.:26:48.

have a clear vision of what we want to do with Britain, so we will be

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looking to that and we will be looking to what it is that they have

:26:52.:26:55.

put down and putting down our vision and our amendments and asking

:26:56.:26:58.

Parliament to vote on that. Right, and you would expect all of the

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Conservative Party and all of the DUP, will vote for the Government's

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programme, not your amendment, is that what you're saying? Yeah. It

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depends... To vote for your vision of Britain? The classic way would be

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a Government wins an election on their manifesto and then that

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manifesto is basically boiled down to two pages by the Queen and then

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that's their programme for Government. Well, they can't do

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that, can they? Because they haven't got a majority and they haven't got

:27:25.:27:27.

their backbenchers agreeing with them. They have a majority with the

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DUP. It's wafer thin? Two lost their jobs and the other one lost his

:27:33.:27:36.

seat. They have a majority with the DUP? They have got a majority, but a

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majority for what? That's where we are and that's why the Queen's

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Speech is quite important, we want to know what it is they agree to and

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then we will be pushing them and keep pushing them. We heard from

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some voters some of whom are Labour who say that it is right that

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Theresa May continues for the moment, for a period of stability.

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What do you say to our voters? Well, you know, it's, let's see what

:27:59.:28:03.

happens. I mean, the reality is that she won the election in one respect,

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but in the major respect she didn't. In the respect that her manifesto

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didn't win. People don't have confidence in her. She is a wounded

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Prime Minister. She is not really going to be able to do anything. She

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is going to have to do it in agreement with the DUP which causes

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all kinds of problems in terms of the peace process in Northern

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Ireland. If you want me to start talking about that, that's really

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worrying. How they're going to patch this together, who knows? In the

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meantime, there is Brexit going on and that's really important to get

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rightment and we have a very different idea about what kind of

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Brexit negotiations we should behaving than frankly Theresa May

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seem to be envisaging. Labour voters here. Danny, what do you want Labour

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to do, if anything? Well, I think that the Labour Government needs to

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prepare to be in Government in the eventualality that's the situation

:28:52.:28:54.

that can happen, but on a wider level this points out that the

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electoral system in this country needs electoral reform. That could

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be a whole two hour programme! We're not going to get into that now! Can

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I just say to Danny, absolutely. I have been saying to everybody, don't

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put your posters away, put them in the top drawer because there will be

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another election, it looks like, I am afraid and people may not want to

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have it, but it looks like that's where we're going to have to go.

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Matt? One of the reasons that people are saying Labour have won, I don't

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think we have won, but it has been a phenomenal turn around in six

:29:29.:29:32.

weeksment they weren't saying if we don't win, that's it. The response

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has been phenomenal. What do you want Labour to do now to capitalise

:29:36.:29:40.

on their success on Thursday? Keep doing what they have been doing over

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the last six weeks. Who knows what they can achieve. A majority is

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achievable. One thing we learned over two years is a disawe nighted

:29:52.:29:56.

party is an under Popular Party and what happened in that election is we

:29:57.:29:59.

were united and what we're going to see now is the Labour Party sticking

:30:00.:30:03.

together and look at the Tories, they are going to be falling to

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pieces. Can I just ask you about Brexit? Some people are not clear

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where Labour stance on Brexit. You have talked about leaving the single

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market and the customs union and ending freedom of movement. What's

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your position? I have explained this and I'll do it

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again. We wanted to stay in the European Union but we Kacar

:30:32.:30:34.

instructions from the British people so we are leaving. How -- we take

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our instructions. Nobody voted by poorer or lose their job. It has to

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be a jobs first Brexit. Does that mean staying in the Single Market?

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The difficulty is that we find it very difficult to envisage how we

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would remain in the Single Market. The reality is that... It does mean

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leaving the Single Market? But we want to have tariff free, red tape

:30:59.:31:03.

free access to the Single Market. This is a nuanced position. It is

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nuanced but entirely consistent. I was shadow Brexit and then Shadow

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Foreign Secretary. I haven't ever to make this clear. It is my fault, but

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I have said that hundreds of times. It is the economy first, the safety

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and security of our nation and then the economy so quite do you

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understand Labour's Brexit position? No, if you look through the Labour

:31:28.:31:30.

manifesto they want to re-nationalise... We are talking

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about Brexit now. I am linking it. Here you are talking about

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inevitably remaining a member of the Single Market. You can't do both of

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those things. I said, it is not inevitable that we remain in the

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Single Market. If we are leaving the EU, it seems it is very difficult

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for us to remain in the Single Market. We want to have access to

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the Single Market, and that has to be overwhelmingly our priority. But

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at... Listen, nobody has left the European Union before. If we went

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into it in good faith and said to the Europeans, we have a problem, we

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want to leave, let's not do negotiations like Theresa May

:32:15.:32:17.

stamping her feet and saying, I want, I want, I want. You go along

:32:18.:32:22.

and say, this is what we think we should be doing and how about this?

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Talking to them, listening to them, and working out a compromise, that

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is what our approach should be. You need to go, thank you very much,

:32:31.:32:38.

Emily Thornberry. Let's talk more about Brexit. What do you want

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Theresa May to do now? Having failed to get a majority and having failed

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to get the mandate she was asking for from the British people, does

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she need to change her approach to Brexit... Or not? Let's hear from

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Toby. I think she needs to amend her views on the whole thing. To me

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there seems a middle ground in terms of what we were saying, it has to be

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a jobs first Brexit which has the economy's best interests at heart.

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Theresa May has said she is leaving the Single Market, do you want her

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to change her mind? Absolutely, the good thing about this is softening

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the stance and sorting out a position where we can move forward

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as a nation. Everything about the last couple of years of politics has

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been about division, and I think we need unity. Anyone else? Her

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rhetoric of being a citizen has been incredibly divisive. It should be a

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real lesson about bringing the country together. She has spoken

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about it but she has divided the country more. You have to understand

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that what everybody wants at this point, I really do not think she

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actually wants to take anything at all away, it is a way of starting

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negotiation and conversation. When you get to negotiations, you do not

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tell the party that you are negotiating with that you are not

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ready to go all the way there. It is a point of getting a way to start

:34:12.:34:16.

talking with Europe and trying to get the best deal for Britain. Let's

:34:17.:34:22.

bring in Neil Coyle, a Labour MP, nominated Jeremy Corbyn as Labour

:34:23.:34:26.

leader but has since been one of his heart harshest critics. Do you now

:34:27.:34:31.

eat your words? All of the humble pie has been scoffed by over the

:34:32.:34:37.

weekend but I am happy to have my share. People overestimated the

:34:38.:34:42.

enthusiasm of some of the new members and policies that were more

:34:43.:34:47.

radical, like tuition fees. We all underestimated how angry people

:34:48.:34:50.

still work with Theresa May over Brexit, as you have been talking

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about. Also, after seven years of Theresa May being in government, she

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kept saying she cared about the people who were just about managing,

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but in her manifesto she offered nothing for the people who have been

:35:04.:35:07.

struggling, nothing for the police or house-building. We saw what

:35:08.:35:12.

happened with the social C. What do you do now, then? Everything has

:35:13.:35:16.

changed and nothing has changed. Yes, it is great to have more Labour

:35:17.:35:21.

MPs and great to have, you know, the chance to be nearer Government, but

:35:22.:35:24.

nobody should be suggesting that we have won this election by any

:35:25.:35:35.

stretch of the mark. The Tories are still there and able to do the

:35:36.:35:38.

damage. I wanted to be in... To make sure we have more police and that we

:35:39.:35:40.

are building more affordable housing. Do you want another

:35:41.:35:43.

election? I think it is inevitable. Theresa May has affected her own

:35:44.:35:45.

chances. When you say it is inevitable, can you describe to me

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in parliamentary terms why it would end up being inevitable? What has to

:35:50.:35:53.

happen for an external election? I think Theresa May has no mandate.

:35:54.:35:58.

She has a manifesto that she cannot deliver, a party that is angry. She

:35:59.:36:03.

has to lose a covered in smoke in the House of Commons. All of her

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Conservative MPs and the DUP take her to a majority position. -- she

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has to lose a confidence vote. All of those in a confidence motion one

:36:13.:36:17.

would expect to vote for her. How is a general election inevitable? You

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are underestimating how ruthlessly Tory Party is. Some of her own MPs

:36:22.:36:26.

would vote against her? Yes, she said this election is only about

:36:27.:36:30.

herself. People have shifted, they want to know what is happening with

:36:31.:36:34.

the Single Market. The Labour Party has won in Kensington and

:36:35.:36:39.

Canterbury, I think partly on Remain alone. People are angry and

:36:40.:36:42.

concerned about drug. They want her to change her position. Some in her

:36:43.:36:47.

party will have to force to do that -- people are concerned Rod Lawler.

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What do you think about the deal with the DUP? I think it is a

:36:50.:36:54.

disgrace. I thought Tim Farron's views abortion and being gay were

:36:55.:37:03.

bizarre, but the DUP are alarming. We have seen what the SNP were

:37:04.:37:06.

doing, and thankfully they have been knocked back. We have seen a rise in

:37:07.:37:11.

tension in Northern Ireland. Brexit has so many costs and consequences

:37:12.:37:14.

and risks that this Government are trying to ignore. The cracks are

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widening. Thank you, Neil Coyle, Labour MP. More from our voters

:37:19.:37:25.

later. Let's hear the news and sport with Joanne. Theresa May will today

:37:26.:37:31.

meet backbench Conservative MPs and set Hryko sustained run in Downing

:37:32.:37:32.

Street. Michael Gove, one of the driving

:37:33.:37:38.

forces behind Brexit, Mrs May is also still

:37:39.:37:40.

trying to secure a deal with the Democratic Unionists

:37:41.:37:44.

to ensure they'll back Exit polls following the first

:37:45.:37:46.

round of France's parliamentary election suggest President Macron's

:37:47.:37:51.

new centrist party is on course for a landslide victory.

:37:52.:37:54.

Projections show La Republique en Marche and its MoDem ally look set

:37:55.:37:57.

to win up to 445 of the 577 seats The party was only

:37:58.:38:01.

set up one year ago. Detectives investigating

:38:02.:38:07.

the London Bridge attack have made in Barking on suspicion of terrorism

:38:08.:38:17.

offences shortly before Both the White House

:38:18.:38:21.

and Downing Street have dismissed a report that Donald Trump wants

:38:22.:38:31.

to delay his proposed state visit to the UK until he has the support

:38:32.:38:34.

of the British public. An online petition was signed

:38:35.:38:37.

by nearly two million people who wanted to block

:38:38.:38:39.

the American President's The opposition was inflamed

:38:40.:38:41.

by Mr Trump's criticism of London mayor Sadiq Khan's response

:38:42.:38:46.

to the London Bridge terror attack. A new poll suggests many children

:38:47.:38:54.

are confused about where their food One third of 5-7-year-olds

:38:55.:38:57.

survey by the British came from a plant, not

:38:58.:39:12.

Nearly a quarter thought prawns come from plants, and a fifth

:39:13.:39:17.

of those questioned thought chips were also from animals.

:39:18.:39:20.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:39:21.:39:22.

Now the sport, with Katherine Downes.

:39:23.:39:29.

Wales need to win all four of their remaining qualifiers if they are to

:39:30.:39:35.

make it to Russia next year, that is according to their manager Chris

:39:36.:39:39.

Coleman. They drew with Serbia yesterday. England's under 20s of

:39:40.:39:43.

the world champions, beating Venezuela 1-0 to lift the World Cup.

:39:44.:39:48.

Gareth Southgate says it is time for Premier League clubs to nurture this

:39:49.:39:52.

home-grown talent. Lewis Hamilton said his team dealt a blow to the

:39:53.:39:56.

Ferraris after winning a sixth Grand Prix. It halved Sebastian Vettel's

:39:57.:40:03.

lead in the drivers Championship. Rafa Nadal has won the French Open

:40:04.:40:10.

for a record tenth time. He said he thought he would be fishing on his

:40:11.:40:13.

boat in the yorker right now, rather than winning Grand Slams in his 30s.

:40:14.:40:17.

Not passed it yet! Back to you. Good morning, we have voters here. I

:40:18.:40:28.

have been asking you what you want to happen next. Chris on Facebook

:40:29.:40:32.

says it is tricky but we have to hang on in there and give the new

:40:33.:40:36.

Cabinet a chance. Maybe David Davis and Michael Gove can help. I'm a bit

:40:37.:40:40.

scared about Boris, but Corbyn is not viable. Andrew on Twitter says,

:40:41.:40:47.

I want an answer on white Theresa May has reinstalled Jeremy Hunt as

:40:48.:40:51.

Health Secretary. Thou said, I want Theresa May to put together a

:40:52.:40:55.

package of ideas for how to make the country forward. -- how to take the

:40:56.:41:01.

country forward. What is the deal with the DUP? What kind of Brexit

:41:02.:41:05.

are we asking for? I have still no idea. Elspeth on Facebook says, this

:41:06.:41:10.

is how a self-serving politician, this is house of serving politicians

:41:11.:41:13.

mess with our country and our future. What a mess! Who can you

:41:14.:41:21.

trust? Let's talk a bit more about the Conservatives and the fact that

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they are going to have to rely on Northern Ireland's DUP's ten MPs to

:41:26.:41:30.

give them a majority. But at what price? Let's talk to Alistair Ross,

:41:31.:41:35.

a former DUP junior minister. We can also hear from Peter Lynas, director

:41:36.:41:41.

of... Who is director of the Evangelical Alliance. It is a

:41:42.:41:45.

Christian organisation. He is also in Belfast. And Alan Murray is a

:41:46.:41:50.

transgender woman and O2 BT campaigner from Northern Ireland --

:41:51.:41:55.

Ellen Marie. Alistair Ross, the most powerful woman in Britain goes to

:41:56.:41:59.

number ten to meet the Prime Minister. What will Arlene Foster be

:42:00.:42:03.

asking for in exchange for supporting a Tory government? The

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clue is in the document that was produced two years ago when everyone

:42:08.:42:10.

thought we were heading towards a hung parliament. I suspect that what

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Arlene and the DUP team will be asking for is three things. To

:42:15.:42:18.

secure Northern Ireland's position within the UK and play a greater

:42:19.:42:21.

role in national politics. Secondly, there will be an ask around

:42:22.:42:25.

additional revenue for the Northern Ireland block grant. If there is an

:42:26.:42:30.

executive up and running, perhaps additional economic levers to help

:42:31.:42:33.

us become more economically competitive here in Northern

:42:34.:42:36.

Ireland. Thirdly, Rob post-Brexit world, as you will be aware the DUP

:42:37.:42:41.

want a soft border with the Irish Republic. That means there is a free

:42:42.:42:45.

flow of people who will go up and down the country between Northern

:42:46.:42:47.

Ireland and the Republic of Ireland on a daily basis for work. Also the

:42:48.:42:51.

businesses on both sides of the border who have supply teams that

:42:52.:42:55.

straddle the border. Those are the things that the DUP will be asking

:42:56.:42:59.

for in the discussions with the Conservatives over the coming days.

:43:00.:43:03.

We have just got this in from Reuters. Arlene Foster, the DUP

:43:04.:43:08.

leader, saying her priority talks with the Prime Minister are about

:43:09.:43:12.

defending the United Kingdom and a good Brexit deal. Peter Lynas, good

:43:13.:43:19.

morning to you. What is your view on this deal between the DUP on the

:43:20.:43:25.

Conservatives was blog good morning, Victoria. We work across various

:43:26.:43:29.

parties in Northern Ireland. The DUP, along with many others. In a

:43:30.:43:34.

sense, I agree with Alistair. The DUP set out sometimes two years ago.

:43:35.:43:39.

The DUP sometimes misunderstood, they are not a simple party of the

:43:40.:43:42.

right or left, they have objected to some of the things are Conservative

:43:43.:43:46.

manifesto around welfare reform. They want to see the triple lock and

:43:47.:43:50.

want to fuel allowance capped, many of their voters are class. They will

:43:51.:43:55.

disagree with the Conservatives there. Northern Ireland has the

:43:56.:44:00.

young European land border. A soft Brexit, that will have a big impact

:44:01.:44:05.

-- European land border. There will be something around the terror and

:44:06.:44:10.

extremism stuff. We have a very real understanding of terrorism here in

:44:11.:44:13.

Northern Ireland, it is different from extremism. The DUP have been

:44:14.:44:17.

betrayed as an extreme party over the weekend, that is unhelpful,

:44:18.:44:21.

there is counter extremism legislation that it is important

:44:22.:44:24.

that we get right but it really needs to go to the end whether its

:44:25.:44:27.

violence and terrorism. We have a real understanding of that. Let me

:44:28.:44:34.

bring in Ellen Murray, and LGBT campaigner. Is there anything

:44:35.:44:37.

extreme you have just heard from either Peter Lynas or Alistair Ross?

:44:38.:44:43.

Good morning. I don't think I have heard anything necessarily extreme

:44:44.:44:48.

from either of them so far. However, the DUP's social policies around

:44:49.:44:52.

LGBT rights and their history, both in Parliament and at home in the AM

:44:53.:45:00.

of Eric Murray poor. -- in the assembly are poor. We can expect a

:45:01.:45:05.

stagnation of LGBT rights if the DUP have the power to start influencing

:45:06.:45:08.

the Tories on what they can and cannot introduce as legislation.

:45:09.:45:15.

We have various people in the audience who want to talk about the

:45:16.:45:26.

DUP's views on same-sex marriage and abortion. What do you think about

:45:27.:45:29.

this potential deal between the DUP and the Conservatives? I think it is

:45:30.:45:35.

a disgrace and I also think... Why is it a disgrace? Well, it is a

:45:36.:45:39.

disgrace because they are a party known for having quite extreme views

:45:40.:45:47.

and they have no - I mean we've just, we passed like same-sex

:45:48.:45:53.

marriage a few years ago and now the Conservatives did and now they're

:45:54.:46:02.

with a party which doesn't, which discriminates against LGBT people...

:46:03.:46:09.

On religious grounds they don't want same-sex marriage in church. Will?

:46:10.:46:16.

Theresa May is not giving the reassurances that LGBT ought to be

:46:17.:46:23.

protected. She has pointed her new Justice Secretary who has a number

:46:24.:46:30.

of homophobic records. He voted against, they voted against the

:46:31.:46:37.

consent in the 1990s, same-sex marriage on both occasions and she

:46:38.:46:41.

is not giving those reassurances that are needed. Do you think

:46:42.:46:45.

legislation in England and Wales is going to change when it comes to

:46:46.:46:49.

equal rights as a result of a deal with the DUP? That's the point. I

:46:50.:46:56.

don't think that's going to change. The whole essence of having the

:46:57.:47:00.

collaboration with the DUP was to get through Parliament, get a

:47:01.:47:02.

majority that the Conservative Party needs and to be able to focus on the

:47:03.:47:09.

things ahead like Brexit so I don't think their views is going to colour

:47:10.:47:12.

the views of the Conservative Party. I do think that the DUP as you quite

:47:13.:47:17.

rightly said, I don't think they are going to try and influence social

:47:18.:47:21.

policy in the UK. What they are looking for is economic assurances

:47:22.:47:26.

and extra economic aid in Northern Ireland, but I do think someone

:47:27.:47:30.

raised a point earlier about whether the Conservative Government can then

:47:31.:47:33.

influential change in Northern Ireland but I do think it is

:47:34.:47:37.

important to remember we have a devolved Assembly in Northern

:47:38.:47:40.

Ireland and that's a matter for people of Northern Ireland and

:47:41.:47:43.

whether as was seen in this country you will see social change come

:47:44.:47:48.

about through a grass-roots movement. I don't really think it's

:47:49.:47:53.

the right approach to say well, we're going to force this change

:47:54.:47:56.

into Northern Ireland as much as I would believe that it's the right

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direction. Let me introduce you to Clare Murphy. Come nearer. Clare

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Murphy is from the British Pregnancy Advisory Service. What is your issue

:48:08.:48:10.

with the DUP doing a deal with the Conservatives? Well, you know, I

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think we've heard the word extreme used this morning and when it comes

:48:15.:48:18.

to abortion that is fair... Nothing will change in England and Wales?

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That's a fair and legitimate word when it comes to the DUP. This is a

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party that believes that it is moral and right to compel a woman who is

:48:28.:48:33.

carrying a pregnancy where the baby has no skull to compel that woman to

:48:34.:48:39.

carry that pregnancy to term. It doesn't actually represent public

:48:40.:48:42.

opinion in Northern Ireland on these issues. There is a strong ground

:48:43.:48:47.

swell of public opinion in favour of decriminalisation of abortion in

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Northern Ireland and for women to be able to access abortion at least in

:48:51.:48:52.

certain circumstances and I think the only good thing we can say about

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this situation is at least it's brought attention to what's going on

:48:57.:49:01.

in Northern Ireland. In terms of women's access to services. From

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what we're told the DUP, in terms of this deal, will be wanting, you

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notion billions poured into the Northern Ireland economy, will be

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wanting perhaps Theresa May to dump some of her policies from her

:49:15.:49:18.

manifesto. There is nothing, they're not demanding anything, they're not

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demanding restrictions on women in England and Wales. It's interesting

:49:23.:49:27.

you say that, though because the DUP do vote in Westminster on issues

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that only pertain to women in England and Wales, but they vote on

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abortion issues so when they say they don't intervene they do

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intervene. I was suggesting it wouldn't be part of this deal

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though? Well, let's hope it's not part of this deal, but let's use

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this opportunity to really stand up and make our voices heard on the

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kind of situation, you know, to really make clear our voice is on

:49:49.:49:52.

how we feel about the situation for women in Northern Ireland. I'm going

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to bring Alistair Ross in. A former DUP junior ministerment there are a

:49:57.:49:59.

number of people who are really worried about the peace process,

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Alistair Ross because they say for the Good Friday Agreement the

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British Government has to be neutral, has to be totally impartial

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when it comes to the peace process so how can they be impartial,

:50:13.:50:16.

neutral when they are doing a deal with the DUP? If I can say the DUP

:50:17.:50:21.

is a socially Conservative Party, but Northern Ireland is socially

:50:22.:50:24.

Conservative, you know, in comparison to the rest of the United

:50:25.:50:27.

Kingdom and other parties also hold the same view that the 196 Abortion

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Act shouldn't be extended to Northern Ireland. It is not just the

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DUP, the SDLP and most of the unionist party would hold that view

:50:37.:50:39.

as well. In terms of the process, I have heard a lot about this from

:50:40.:50:43.

particularly Labour MPs in the last 24 hours. It would almost suggests

:50:44.:50:47.

that the Labour Party when they were in Government didn't try to do deals

:50:48.:50:51.

with the DUP and of course they did and they would have taken sides at

:50:52.:50:54.

different times. Yes, absolutely, but just a minute. It stands to

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reason that the Government will be be Holden to the DUP and that

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doesn't make them neutral or impartial when it comes to the peace

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process? It is not a mergerment it is a much more informal arrangement

:51:08.:51:10.

around supporting a Queen's Speech, a Budget and potentially any motions

:51:11.:51:13.

of no confidence in the Prime Minister. So I think it will be over

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a limited number of issues and then other issues will be done on an

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issue by issue basis, the DUP will want as much flexibility as

:51:24.:51:26.

possible. In terms of neutrality in terms of the talks starting at

:51:27.:51:30.

Stormont to get the executive back up and running, the talks have the

:51:31.:51:33.

UK Secretary of State and the Irish Government are represented and the

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Northern Ireland head of the Civil Service will chair most of the

:51:36.:51:39.

discussions, ultimately an agreement will have to happen between the

:51:40.:51:42.

parties in any case and where the UK Government come into it and

:51:43.:51:45.

nationalist parties said they are not an impartial actor for many

:51:46.:51:48.

years already, but where they come into it is around some of the stuff

:51:49.:51:52.

around legacy, but look, this is a concern, I've heard the concern, but

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I think the Secretary of State will do all he can to make sure the

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perception is he acts as an impartial player in any talks and I

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think the head of the Civil Service in Northern Ireland will chair most

:52:04.:52:06.

of those discussions if that's a concern for nationalist parties.

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OK, thank you very much, all of you, Alistair Ross former DUP junior

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minister, thank you to Peter, Director of Evangelical alliance and

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Ellen Murray, LGBT campaigner and Clare Murphy from the British

:52:25.:52:28.

Pregnancy Advisory Servicement let's talk to Chuka Umunna who has been a

:52:29.:52:34.

fierce critic of Jeremy Corbyn. Would you chouk like a job again in

:52:35.:52:41.

the Shadow Cabinet? Well, I'm not sure I would describe myself as

:52:42.:52:49.

fierce! Well, look, Victoria, in the end who is in Jeremy's team is up to

:52:50.:52:56.

Jeremy and I don't think it is up to me or anyone else to tell him who to

:52:57.:53:05.

point or hold a herself r reshuffle. If we were asked to serve, people

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would do that because we have got to focus our fire on the Tories and

:53:10.:53:12.

getting them out of Government as soon as possiblement they have

:53:13.:53:16.

created a right mess, chaos and shamble which is interesting soap

:53:17.:53:19.

opera in Westminster, but in the end will affect people's lives. And the

:53:20.:53:24.

big issue on the horizon is Brexit. You know, that's going to have a

:53:25.:53:28.

huge effect on your viewers jobs and livelihoods and we have got to do

:53:29.:53:32.

the job that we must do of scrutinising the deal, the

:53:33.:53:34.

negotiations and making sure that we get the best deal for our

:53:35.:53:36.

communities and that's where everybody in the Labour Party will

:53:37.:53:41.

be focussed on. So, in Parliamentary terms, does

:53:42.:53:44.

that mean from a Labour point of view, you get together with the SNP,

:53:45.:53:53.

with the Greens, and others to try to vote down what Theresa May and

:53:54.:53:58.

the DUP will try to do on Brexit or do you hope the Democratic Unionists

:53:59.:54:02.

will end up softening approach to Brexit? -- Theresa May's approach to

:54:03.:54:10.

Brexit? We will put forward our own agenda and our own ideas. We will

:54:11.:54:17.

make amendments to legislation as we see fit. There are three things that

:54:18.:54:21.

come out of the election. One, the Prime Minister does not have a

:54:22.:54:26.

mandate to pursue an extreme job destroying Brexit. She doesn't have

:54:27.:54:30.

that now. Two, she was talking up the prospects of no deal being

:54:31.:54:34.

better than a deal. I think that's off the table, given that the DUP

:54:35.:54:38.

are seeking a soft border with the Republic of Ireland and that will

:54:39.:54:42.

require a deal and thirdly, for her to get through any legislation

:54:43.:54:45.

relating to Brexit, never mind a vote on the deal, she is going to

:54:46.:54:49.

need a degree of cross party support. Simply getting the DUP

:54:50.:54:52.

support is not going to be enough. There is a huge amount of

:54:53.:54:58.

legislation which will have to go through Parliament, both prim

:54:59.:55:02.

primary and secondary legislation to give effect from our withdrawal from

:55:03.:55:05.

the European Union. I really do think that we're in a change

:55:06.:55:12.

situation now. Right, OK. We have a number of voters here, Labour,

:55:13.:55:16.

Conservative, Greens, etcetera, Lib Dems. And including Labour voters,

:55:17.:55:23.

most of them feel it is right that Theresa May continues as Prime

:55:24.:55:27.

Minister for a period of time because they don't want another

:55:28.:55:30.

general election. Are you surprised by that? I'm not surprised by that.

:55:31.:55:37.

I mean, if I just look in my constituency in straet statement, in

:55:38.:55:40.

Lambeth, we had local elections in 2014. We had a general election in

:55:41.:55:44.

2015, we had the European referendum in 2016, and another general

:55:45.:55:48.

election this year. I think the people we represent want us to get

:55:49.:55:52.

on with the business of ensuring we've got a smooth running country

:55:53.:55:55.

and there is a Government doing what people want it to be doing. So I'm

:55:56.:55:59.

not surprised by that, but I have to say, if there is another general

:56:00.:56:02.

election I think people are certainly not wrong to talk about

:56:03.:56:07.

there possibly being one, it will be simply because the current

:56:08.:56:10.

Government, a minority Government, is not able to govern effectively

:56:11.:56:14.

and it maybe that if they can't get through the legislation, can't get

:56:15.:56:17.

through their policies they have to go back to the country and ask the

:56:18.:56:21.

people for a clearer instruction as to what they want and I mean one of

:56:22.:56:24.

the things that's been not commented on quite as much as I think it

:56:25.:56:27.

should be is the fact that we're still a really divided country. I

:56:28.:56:31.

think people were very alarmed coming out of the EU referendum just

:56:32.:56:34.

how divided we were and the divisions twob the generations,

:56:35.:56:36.

between different parts of the country, I don't think, you know, we

:56:37.:56:40.

can think that any less coming out of this general election. We are

:56:41.:56:44.

still looking like a very country and the question is how do we unify

:56:45.:56:48.

and come together to build a better tomorrow for future generations?

:56:49.:56:53.

Gordon Brown flirted with the DUP back in 2010. What's your view about

:56:54.:56:59.

the Conservatives and the DUP together? Well, think a lot of

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people find some of the views of some of the politicians in the DUP

:57:04.:57:07.

really quite objectionable. They don't have a very good record on

:57:08.:57:12.

some LGBT rights for example. I don't particularly like their views

:57:13.:57:15.

on abortion. I understand they are opposed to people having the right

:57:16.:57:19.

to choose when it comes to abortion. So I can understand the alarm that

:57:20.:57:23.

has been raised by Ruth Davidson and others in the Conservative Party and

:57:24.:57:29.

more broadly, but there is the big issue here that traditionally we

:57:30.:57:31.

have established the convention that the UK Government seeks to act as an

:57:32.:57:37.

impartial honest player when it comes to resolving issues in

:57:38.:57:40.

Northern Ireland. And at the moment, there is not a functioning

:57:41.:57:44.

Government over there. And how on earth, given they have this

:57:45.:57:49.

arrangement with the DUP, can the Conservative minority Government act

:57:50.:57:53.

as an impartial player in that situation which is a delicate one?

:57:54.:57:59.

I'm not sure that they can. Can it? Right. Well, I don't see how they

:58:00.:58:08.

can act as an I will partial player between the different parties in

:58:09.:58:11.

Northern Ireland when they have this arrangement with the DUP. Thank you,

:58:12.:58:23.

Chuka Umunna. Thank you for your patience, I appreciate T Katie on

:58:24.:58:26.

Facebook says, "The people voted and the verdict is, we are divided. Just

:58:27.:58:31.

as we were about Brexit. The Conservatives have the largest

:58:32.:58:33.

number of seats and they have a duty to do the best for Britain when it

:58:34.:58:39.

comes to Brexit." Sean says, "I wish Labour won. It would have been

:58:40.:58:42.

interesting to see their faces realising they had to deliver their

:58:43.:58:47.

manifesto." ." Small chuckle here from voters, including Labour

:58:48.:58:50.

voters. Vor viewer says, "Jeremy Corbyn and his coalition would

:58:51.:58:53.

actually represent more of the UK population. They also seem more

:58:54.:58:58.

stable and consistent than the Conservatives and DUP together."

:58:59.:59:01.

Wherever you are in the UK, let me know, what do you want to see happen

:59:02.:59:04.

next? Right, let's bring you the weather. Here is Carol.

:59:05.:59:10.

This morning it was a chilly start. There is a lot of cloud around and

:59:11.:59:17.

some showers. The strongest winds across central and Southern Scotland

:59:18.:59:21.

and northern England. Here we have got gusts 40mph to 50mph. They will

:59:22.:59:25.

ease as we go through the day. Through the day, many of the showers

:59:26.:59:28.

will fade and we will see sunshine with highs up to 21 Celsius. Through

:59:29.:59:31.

the evening and overnight, there will be clear skies and a lot of dry

:59:32.:59:35.

weather. Some patchy mist and fog forming across southern areas and

:59:36.:59:38.

then we have got weather fronts coming in across Northern Ireland,

:59:39.:59:43.

Western Scotland, north-west England and north-west Wales introducing

:59:44.:59:45.

rain. Through the course of tomorrow, that rain will turn more

:59:46.:59:49.

showery as it advances north-east wards, but with high pressure in the

:59:50.:59:53.

south, things remain fairly settled with a fair bit of sunshine and

:59:54.:59:58.

temperatures climbing nicely, we are looking at highs around 23 Celsius,

:59:59.:00:02.

18 Celsius in the north and then as we head on into Wednesday, with high

:00:03.:00:05.

pressure firmly in charge, it's going to be a sunny and a warm day

:00:06.:00:10.

in the south. Highs 26 Celsius, possibly 27 Celsius, as we drift

:00:11.:00:13.

further north, there will be more cloud and once again, we will have

:00:14.:00:16.

rain, flirting with the north-west, which will peg the temperatures

:00:17.:00:18.

back. It is 10am, as Duke can hear from

:00:19.:00:32.

Big Ben! Come to the programme. -- as you can here.

:00:33.:00:34.

It's just one week to go before the Brexit negotiations start,

:00:35.:00:37.

but instead the Prime Minister's having to focus on shoring up

:00:38.:00:39.

I am pleased that people from across the party have agreed to serve in my

:00:40.:00:47.

cabinet, and we're going to be getting on with the job of

:00:48.:00:49.

government. And with a record number

:00:50.:00:50.

of 18-to-25-year-olds voting this time round,

:00:51.:00:52.

what can we learn from The clear message, both from Brexit

:00:53.:01:03.

and from so many young people voting, is that people are fed up of

:01:04.:01:08.

business as normal. They don't want the political elite, of which I'm

:01:09.:01:16.

inevitably -- I can't attach myself from it, they don't want them to

:01:17.:01:17.

carry on as normal. They were backed by 40%

:01:18.:01:19.

of the electorate, but it wasn't Labour says they will

:01:20.:01:22.

keep on fighting. Last week's general election

:01:23.:01:25.

was full of twists and turns. We'll be speaking to

:01:26.:01:27.

some of them shortly. We will be analysing what is going

:01:28.:01:33.

to happen over the next seven days as we head to the start of the next

:01:34.:01:36.

Brexit negotiations. We will talk to more politicians, we have a group of

:01:37.:01:39.

voters. Wherever you are in the UK, tell me what you want to think

:01:40.:01:41.

happens next. Here's Joanna with a

:01:42.:01:49.

summary of today's news. Theresa May will today meet

:01:50.:01:51.

backbench Conservative MPs and set out her case for staying

:01:52.:01:54.

on in Downing Street. The Prime Minister will also chair

:01:55.:01:56.

a meeting of her newly Michael Gove, one of the driving

:01:57.:01:59.

forces behind Brexit, Mrs May is also still

:02:00.:02:02.

trying to secure a deal with the Democratic Unionists

:02:03.:02:09.

to ensure they'll back The Brexit Secretary, David Davis,

:02:10.:02:11.

has criticised the Conservative MPs who have questioned

:02:12.:02:15.

Theresa May's leadership. I have to say, I view all of this

:02:16.:02:31.

talk about the leadership, as it were, as the height of

:02:32.:02:33.

self-indulgence. You know, the British people have given us an

:02:34.:02:37.

instruction, a result we wouldn't have chosen ourselves, but they have

:02:38.:02:42.

given as and instruction. It is our job to get business through the

:02:43.:02:45.

House of Commons and from the country. She's very good and bad.

:02:46.:02:50.

I've served with her for ten months, she's an extremely good Prime

:02:51.:02:51.

Minister -- she is very at that. Exit polls following the first

:02:52.:02:54.

round of France's parliamentary election suggest President Macron's

:02:55.:02:56.

new centrist party is on course Projections show La Republique en

:02:57.:02:58.

Marche and its MoDem ally look set to win up to 445 of the 577 seats

:02:59.:03:02.

in France's National Assembly. The final outcome will be decided

:03:03.:03:05.

in a run-off next Sunday. Detectives investigating

:03:06.:03:11.

the London Bridge attack have made A 19-year-old man was detained

:03:12.:03:13.

in Barking on suspicion of terrorism offences shortly before

:03:14.:03:19.

10pm last night. Both the White House

:03:20.:03:22.

and Downing Street have dismissed a report that Donald Trump wants

:03:23.:03:29.

to delay his proposed state visit to the UK until he has the support

:03:30.:03:32.

of the British public. An online petition was signed

:03:33.:03:35.

by nearly two million people who wanted to block

:03:36.:03:37.

the American President's The opposition was inflamed

:03:38.:03:39.

by Mr Trump's criticism of London mayor Sadiq Khan's response

:03:40.:03:45.

to the London Bridge terror attack. A new poll suggests many

:03:46.:03:51.

children are confused Nearly one third of 5-7-year-olds

:03:52.:03:53.

survey by the British thought cheese came from a plant,

:03:54.:04:01.

not an animal. Just only one in five believed

:04:02.:04:06.

animals provide us with pasta. Nearly a quarter thought

:04:07.:04:11.

prawns come from plants, and a fifth of those questioned

:04:12.:04:13.

thought chips were That's a summary of

:04:14.:04:15.

the latest BBC News. Thanks, Joanne. Good morning,

:04:16.:04:24.

everyone. Such a busy weekend of sport. We will start with football.

:04:25.:04:28.

Wales manager Chris Coleman think they need to win all four of their

:04:29.:04:32.

remaining World Cup qualifiers if they are to be short of reaching

:04:33.:04:36.

next year's finals. A penalty from -- Aaron Ramsey gave them the lead.

:04:37.:04:44.

It leaves them Quadri points behind, Republic of Ireland drew with

:04:45.:04:48.

Austria. We were looking to win it in the last ten minutes. Once they

:04:49.:04:52.

equalised, they have an pass, we had two or three breakaway is there

:04:53.:04:57.

which could have been different. Overall, good game, tough game, two

:04:58.:05:01.

good teams. For us the point is a good point. England manager Gareth

:05:02.:05:06.

Southgate says it is up to the clubs to nurture young talent, because for

:05:07.:05:16.

the first time since 1966 and England National Football team won a

:05:17.:05:18.

World Cup. The under 20s but Venezuela 1-0 in the final in South

:05:19.:05:21.

Korea. The Everton player with the goal. Freddie Woodman, the keeper,

:05:22.:05:23.

made a brilliant penalty save to make sure they lifted the trophy.

:05:24.:05:28.

Ultimately, the aim is that those players come through to the seniors.

:05:29.:05:32.

The big part of that is for them to get opportunities with their clubs.

:05:33.:05:37.

I think they have shown that if at under 20s we are world champions,

:05:38.:05:41.

then there are enough players there to fulfil careers in the game

:05:42.:05:43.

without clubs looking elsewhere Rafa Nadal thought he would be

:05:44.:05:55.

finishing -- fishing in his boat of Majorca, not winning a Grand Slam

:05:56.:05:59.

for the 12th time. He has won Grand Slams in his teens, 20s and 30s.

:06:00.:06:07.

Lewis Hamilton's Formula 1 title challenge is back on track after he

:06:08.:06:11.

won the Canadian Grand Prix. He led from start to finish in Montreal to

:06:12.:06:15.

take the chequered flag for the six time and cut Sebastian Vettel's

:06:16.:06:19.

Championship lead to 12 points after he could only finish fourth. I had

:06:20.:06:25.

my first win here ten years ago. To repeat it is incredibly special. I

:06:26.:06:29.

really have to thank my team him a disposable. The guys back at the

:06:30.:06:33.

factory worked so hard to fix what we had in the last race and bring it

:06:34.:06:42.

here. Lewis Hamilton talking to Sir Patrick Stewart. That's all the

:06:43.:06:45.

sport. Thank you very much. Good morning, hello, we're right Monday

:06:46.:06:47.

morning at Westminster. Not far from Downing Street. We have voters from

:06:48.:06:52.

different parties. Thank you for giving up your Monday morning, nice

:06:53.:06:55.

to see you. Not far away from number ten. Theresa May is presumably

:06:56.:07:01.

working out what she is going to say to her Conservative backbenchers.

:07:02.:07:05.

She is going to have to persuade them that she is the right person to

:07:06.:07:11.

keep going with Brexit, but what kind of Brexit will it be? So many

:07:12.:07:17.

questions they will have for her when she meets the 1922 Committee.

:07:18.:07:19.

Theresa May will face questions about her leadership and campaign

:07:20.:07:22.

strategies today when she meets backbenchers from the

:07:23.:07:23.

There's been strong criticism from within the party

:07:24.:07:27.

after the Tories lost their Commons majority at last week's election.

:07:28.:07:29.

Her first big parliamentary test for the minority Government

:07:30.:07:31.

will come at the end of the month when MPs vote on the Queen's Speech,

:07:32.:07:35.

that's the Government's legislative programme -

:07:36.:07:36.

a list of all the laws the Prime Minister hopes to get

:07:37.:07:39.

through Parliament in the coming year, which the Queen will set out

:07:40.:07:42.

The thinking is she is going to have to junk quite a lot from the

:07:43.:07:48.

manifesto if she is going to do the deal with the DUP.

:07:49.:07:57.

If she stays in her job, Theresa May's first big test

:07:58.:08:00.

will come next week with the Queen's Speech.

:08:01.:08:05.

It should be a time of celebration for the winner, where the Queen

:08:06.:08:08.

gets to tell the nation how her new Government

:08:09.:08:10.

will put all those election promises into action.

:08:11.:08:15.

My Government will legislate to reform...

:08:16.:08:16.

First, the Conservatives are eight seats short

:08:17.:08:26.

of a majority in Parliament, which means the other parties could

:08:27.:08:29.

They are trying to form a Government at the moment,

:08:30.:08:33.

I've no idea what they're going to put into the

:08:34.:08:36.

Queen's Speech, no idea what their stance is going to be

:08:37.:08:39.

That is, unless ten MPs from the DUP in Northern Ireland

:08:40.:08:43.

Possible, but probably only after some concessions.

:08:44.:08:48.

That could mean more money for Northern Ireland,

:08:49.:08:50.

or a promise that Brexit won't mean strict border controls

:08:51.:08:53.

But Theresa May has a bigger problem.

:08:54.:09:00.

The Conservative manifesto itself is widely seen as a disaster,

:09:01.:09:02.

That manifesto now must go down as one of the most

:09:03.:09:08.

disastrous political documents in British history.

:09:09.:09:12.

And that, believe it or not, is not an exaggeration.

:09:13.:09:14.

So plans to scale back the triple lock, which guarantees the state

:09:15.:09:17.

pension, could be shelved, as well as the idea to means-test

:09:18.:09:20.

Winter Fuel Payments and changes to social care in England.

:09:21.:09:26.

No majority also means plans for new grammar schools in England

:09:27.:09:29.

and a third runway for Heathrow could be kicked into the long grass.

:09:30.:09:35.

What, though, about the impact on Brexit?

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For the last year, Theresa May has been talking tough.

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I couldn't be clearer - Brexit means Brexit.

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Many think the election result now means she'll have to compromise,

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maybe trying harder to keep us in the single market

:09:50.:09:52.

and the customs union, maybe even negotiating over the most

:09:53.:09:54.

contentious point, the free movement of people.

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The problem is, those key EU talks are meant to start

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in just a week's time, which doesn't give Mrs May much time

:10:03.:10:05.

to rethink her strategy before getting round the table.

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So what kind of challenges will she face?

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We can speak now to Anushka Asthana, Political Editor at

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And Andrew Gimson, who writes for the Conservative Home website

:10:17.:10:20.

Hello, both of you, good morning. How short is the Queen's speech

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going to be next Monday?! It'll have to be pretty short. Anything that is

:10:33.:10:37.

contentious cannot be in there. Why are you in Government? You are in

:10:38.:10:41.

Government to make policy. It is not all about Brexit. Our frustrating

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than for the Conservatives that they are going to struggle. I wonder if

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she called by election not just because of Brexit but because of

:10:49.:10:52.

grammar schools. A lot of people on the backbenchers thought that they

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might not vote for the grammar is called policy. Well, she wouldn't

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have a chance of getting that through now. She certainly wouldn't,

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but it might be a relief. She might be better at being a weak Prime

:11:08.:11:10.

Minister than pretending to be strong. This is an interesting spin!

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It has only just occurred to me! But it has something to be said for it.

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People say yes or no, you know a bit in advance what people think, and

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you can then take people with you. Also her weakness, the other

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advantage of being weak is that they won't be able to read Greek who to

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replace her with and they certainly won't want another election. -- they

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won't be able to agree on who to replace her with. If you are a Prime

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Minister you can't go on making terrible mistakes by cooking and top

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with just a couple of advisers in number ten. Do you buy that? I

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haven't heard that the re-. You heard it here first! This is a

:11:49.:11:53.

divided country, a lot of people voted Tory and a lot of people voted

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Labour. She is to have to be more mindful about what type of policies

:11:57.:12:01.

the Labour Party would support. Maybe we would get some issues

:12:02.:12:05.

through the Houses of Parliament. There is fear of this revolutionary

:12:06.:12:09.

man from Islington who was about to march on Downing Street and could

:12:10.:12:12.

well be Prime Minister if there hadn't been another election soon.

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They will all be desperate to avoid that. A number of people, including

:12:17.:12:25.

the Conservatives, seem to be saying, look, it is not if it is

:12:26.:12:31.

when she goes. What are you hearing in terms of timescale? Well, you

:12:32.:12:36.

know, clearly it is a very difficult position she is in. She only needs a

:12:37.:12:40.

handful of people on the backbenchers to oppose her and you

:12:41.:12:43.

are in a real amount of trouble. There are clearly more than a

:12:44.:12:46.

handful of people who are annoyed with Theresa May and the

:12:47.:12:49.

Conservative Party. That said, there appears to be a movement among the

:12:50.:12:53.

MPs to say, look, she should be safer now, we need to get on with

:12:54.:13:05.

the Brexit talks. Maybe she has six months. The problem with that is, do

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we suddenly have the instability of the leadership contest and maybe a

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general election in the middle of the Brexit talks. What is your view

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on that? Boris Johnson wrote in the Sun today, it he is supporting her

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and everybody else should. He wants to be Prime Minister and leader of

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the Conservative Party, he is biding his time. An absolute rock of

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stability and loyalty in these troubled times! If anyone, I can

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steady the ship... Surely this great ally of Theresa May. I think it will

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really depend on how it goes with Brexit. I mean, Brexit could be what

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the Suez Canal crisis was for Anthony Eden. Explained that analogy

:13:37.:13:43.

for our younger viewers was blocked Anthony Eden won an election in

:13:44.:13:48.

1935, he was a glamorous successful figure who took over from church or

:13:49.:13:52.

a lot about the Middle East. He had trouble with Colonel Nasser closing

:13:53.:13:57.

the Suez Canal. He did it in a very underhand way, sending in troops,

:13:58.:14:01.

without the Americans backing us. Then he had to pull out the troops

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very soon afterwards. It was a sign that Britain was no longer a great

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power. Terrible humiliation and he went on here in the grounds of

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ill-health but really because his great credibility that he had built

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up ever since he opposed Hitler had been thrown away by opposing this

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effectively this Egyptian. What circumstances would Boris Johnson

:14:22.:14:24.

need to be in the middle of two months kind of leadership challenge?

:14:25.:14:28.

The party would have to want him. I would be surprised if he mounts a

:14:29.:14:34.

challenge like Michael Heseltine. Heseltine got rid of Margaret

:14:35.:14:37.

Thatcher but didn't wear the crown. I think he will be very, very

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anxious. He will want the party to want him, and maybe they weren't,

:14:42.:14:45.

maybe they will want somebody else. Riding in a horse when somebody else

:14:46.:14:49.

has triggered the election. He is not very good at writing! Who has a

:14:50.:14:54.

view about whether they would want or not want Boris Johnson as, you

:14:55.:15:03.

are a green voter, said Gazala is the Tories want to lose an election

:15:04.:15:07.

even worse, Boris Johnson is the man to do it! Is people rejected Theresa

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May, Boris Johnson is far worse and even less credible than she is even

:15:12.:15:13.

today. Let me ask some Conservative voters.

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Let's hear from Andrea, a Conservative voter? I don't think I

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would be following Boris Johnson. Why? I just think, I don't think he

:15:27.:15:30.

did very well as a Foreign Secretary. I don't think I need to

:15:31.:15:35.

say more than that. Many of the things that went before would make

:15:36.:15:41.

him unsuitable. Is there anyone here who would suggest Boris Johnson as

:15:42.:15:45.

leader of the Conservative Party and British Prime Minister? I'm a Labour

:15:46.:15:53.

voter, but I see the appeal of Boris. It would be good for the

:15:54.:15:57.

Conservative Party to have a big character who is different from

:15:58.:16:02.

Theresa May. Would it be advantageous to Labour? Boris knows

:16:03.:16:13.

how to win elections. I think he has some qualities. You are a

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Conservative voter. I think he is playing the whole Brexit thing gets

:16:25.:16:28.

down played and if we are looking at Jeremy Corbyn to get the swell of

:16:29.:16:32.

popular vote then why wouldn't he? Anyone else on Boris Johnson? I

:16:33.:16:36.

agree as a Conservative voter that in fact, Boris Johnson, he jokes

:16:37.:16:41.

around and all this, but we mustn't dismiss him as an extremely clever

:16:42.:16:46.

politician and very experienced politician and therefore, as we say,

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if Jeremy Corbyn could have so many votes, I cannot see why Boris

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Johnson can't. OK. Let me ask both of you about the Scottish

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Conservative leader, Ruth Davidson and her influence on Theresa May

:17:03.:17:06.

when it comes to Brexit. Just outline for our audience the

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differences between Ruth Davidson's approach to Brexit and Theresa May's

:17:12.:17:14.

and why Ruth Davidson has this approach? She is a centrist

:17:15.:17:19.

politician. She is the sort of person who would appeal

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across-the-board including to some Labour voters. Scotland is a country

:17:22.:17:25.

in which people actually want to see more immigration because it's really

:17:26.:17:29.

important that they don't have a decline in population and Ruth

:17:30.:17:33.

Davidson is a huge advocate for soft Brexit, although briefly she was one

:17:34.:17:36.

of the big voices against Brexit in the first place and she has got some

:17:37.:17:41.

very important MPs up there who Theresa May needs, even more than

:17:42.:17:47.

she needs those DUP MPs. So what Ruth Davidson says in terms of

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shifting towards a softer Brexit is going to be very, very important and

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I did notice the Brexit secretary dfs saying the Tory position was not

:17:56.:18:01.

that different to the Labour position. There was one issue, it

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was how far you're prepared to go on immigration. Andrew? Has wrecked the

:18:07.:18:13.

careers of Tory leaders for decades and it could still wreck Theresa

:18:14.:18:17.

May's position because the party is very deeply split on this and

:18:18.:18:20.

particularly on the immigration stuff and she knows some of the

:18:21.:18:25.

immigration stuff goes down well to the Labour voters who she was hoping

:18:26.:18:27.

to attract over to the Conservatives. To soften on that,

:18:28.:18:33.

she refused to do it obtwofrt students would be a big thing. Ruth

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Davidson and others might force her to do that. Thank you both very

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much. Thank you for your time, Andrew, from the Conservative Home

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website and Annouska. We have the Queen's Speech next Monday where the

:18:54.:18:56.

Queen will set out on behalf of Theresa May and her minority

:18:57.:19:02.

Government the legislation that the Conservatives will try and get

:19:03.:19:07.

through the Commons. The thinking that some of the manifesto will have

:19:08.:19:13.

to be dumped because the DUP have different views on means-testing the

:19:14.:19:18.

winter fuel allowance and the triple-lock, what do you think is

:19:19.:19:23.

vital for Theresa May to keep in the Queen's Speech and what should she

:19:24.:19:27.

dump? Let's hear from the back row. If you look at the triple-lock

:19:28.:19:31.

pensions for instance, in many as in the short-term that may do her well

:19:32.:19:36.

in term of getting the coalition together, however in the long-term

:19:37.:19:41.

it may increase the inequality which by the looks of the jump in the

:19:42.:19:46.

Labour vote hadn't done the Conservatives well particularly in

:19:47.:19:53.

London where the generational issue he have department. What should she

:19:54.:19:59.

keep and what should she dump I have read the Tory manifesto and there is

:20:00.:20:05.

silly things like the fox-hunting. I think that may have to go? It's

:20:06.:20:11.

silly social stuff, but the economic side of it agree with. What about

:20:12.:20:16.

her approach to Brexit, do you think it will have to change as a result

:20:17.:20:21.

of her doing deals with the DUP? Since the vote I have been really

:20:22.:20:26.

worried and people putting buzzwords, hard Brexit, soft Brexit,

:20:27.:20:30.

it is not true. We either leave or we don't and it is a hard stance to

:20:31.:20:34.

get and I understand they are trying to win people over, but that is

:20:35.:20:38.

what's going to happen at the end of the day and I think we're moving

:20:39.:20:43.

towards remaining a member and I'm worried about it. Really? You think

:20:44.:20:47.

we're going to stay in the European Union? We will probably leave in

:20:48.:20:51.

name only. OK. Does anyone else think that's a possibility, we might

:20:52.:20:54.

end up staying in the European Union? Yes. I do. Is that because

:20:55.:20:59.

you want that to happen? Well, I suppose it's wishful thinking and I

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don't see how you can just completely leave and nobody really

:21:04.:21:05.

knows what they voted for. They voted for all the half-hearted ideas

:21:06.:21:10.

of what it may or may not be and even now we still don't know hat

:21:11.:21:13.

Government's position is and the Labour Party has been wishy-washy

:21:14.:21:18.

and in the middle. As a Green voter, most of us wanted to remain because

:21:19.:21:21.

we thought we needed to stick together. The world is in a terrible

:21:22.:21:24.

state and we need to be working with everybody else and not separating

:21:25.:21:29.

ourselves even more. Let me bring in some politicians. Good morning all

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of you. We have Vince Cable, Sir Vince Cable, who is a Liberal

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Democrat. As you know former Secretary of State for business,

:21:37.:21:41.

innovation and skills and he won again in Twickenham, regained it. We

:21:42.:21:45.

have Conservative a MP, who is in favour of Brexit and as voted in

:21:46.:21:51.

again on Thursday and we have the SNP spokesperson on Brexit and you

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won by two votes on Thursday night. They all count! Wow. Wracking and

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you are calling for a pause in Brexit negotiations? Well, I don't

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think anybody can pretend that the election didn't happen. We are in a

:22:08.:22:12.

changed set of circumstances. One of the mistakes that Theresa May made

:22:13.:22:17.

was to try not to reach out to other parties and other points of view.

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Defining a relationship with Europe has an impact on every area and

:22:22.:22:28.

every person, and not working with devolved administrations... Well,

:22:29.:22:32.

the clock is ticking? The clock was ticking when the election was

:22:33.:22:36.

called. It does look bizarrely irresponsible does it not to trigger

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Article 50, the process of leaving the European Union that two year

:22:41.:22:43.

timetable, and then call a general election? I think they are very

:22:44.:22:47.

separate. We had a referendum which had a clear decisive result. We are

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not tacking about the referendum? And then we triggered Article 50 and

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there was the issue of a general election where she sought a mandate.

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People were saying she hadn't got her own mandate last year and it was

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an entirely legitimate thing to call that election. Is she a lame duck

:23:03.:23:06.

now? I don't think so. How is she not a lame duck? You look at the

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numbers, the Conservative MPs are more than the Labour, SNP and the

:23:12.:23:16.

liberals put together so they are clearly in the lead and it is

:23:17.:23:21.

customary to have the leader of the leading party to form a Government

:23:22.:23:24.

and I think she can do so. She will be be Holden to the Democratic

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Unionist Party for almost everything? We have 318 MPs which is

:23:30.:23:35.

similar to what we got in 2015. It is 30 fewer than when you called the

:23:36.:23:39.

snap election? There is a basis for having a Government. Steve would

:23:40.:23:43.

remember the SNP had a minority Government only ten years ago and

:23:44.:23:47.

they lasted four years and got re-elected When we were a minority

:23:48.:23:51.

Government we had to reach out to other political parties and had to

:23:52.:23:54.

make come employee mises and that's something Westminster is not used

:23:55.:23:58.

to, it is something Holyrood is used to. We had a coalition Government

:23:59.:24:04.

and it lasted. There has to be a change in the attitudes to reaching

:24:05.:24:08.

out and especially on the European issue. Vince Cable, is Theresa May a

:24:09.:24:13.

lame duck? She has created this mess and she should stay and clear it up

:24:14.:24:19.

and she has won this election and I don't think the country should be

:24:20.:24:23.

held to ransom because of internal feuding in the Tory Party. She is

:24:24.:24:28.

the Prime Minister. She should get on and as we just heard, reach out

:24:29.:24:32.

to other parties and we have got to sort out the mess around Brexit and

:24:33.:24:36.

engaging with the Labour Party and my party and the nationalists trying

:24:37.:24:40.

to form a form of Brexit which is a compromise which keeps the good

:24:41.:24:43.

elements of the European Union, she can make some progress. OK. How

:24:44.:24:48.

should she change her approach to Brexit if at all? Well there are

:24:49.:24:54.

these jargon words about hard and soft Brexit. What I think she has to

:24:55.:24:58.

do or acknowledge that pulling out of the customs union is completely

:24:59.:25:02.

insane. Very damaging. It's particularly damaging to Ireland

:25:03.:25:06.

which is at centre of attention. It is perfectly possible to stay within

:25:07.:25:09.

the single market. To keep all the been fits of that. It's possible to

:25:10.:25:13.

have a degree of management of migration if that's a central issue.

:25:14.:25:17.

Countries like Switzerland do it. So that's the kind of compromise she

:25:18.:25:22.

should be looking at. Do you agree? I don't agree with Vince. I don't

:25:23.:25:27.

think it will be the catastrophe that he sees. Do you think that is a

:25:28.:25:31.

message from some of the electorate saying we didn't like your version

:25:32.:25:35.

of Brexit? We don't know why people vote. People voted on all sorts of

:25:36.:25:38.

issues and Corbyn as I understand the Labour Party's position on

:25:39.:25:41.

Brexit isn't that different from ours. I keep hearing Conservatives

:25:42.:25:45.

say that. There are some difference. John McDonnell himself said we're

:25:46.:25:48.

leaving the single market. He said that yesterday. Could the Brexit

:25:49.:25:54.

question be reopened? It will have to be reopened. We talked about

:25:55.:25:58.

arithmetic in the House of Commons and legislation will have to go

:25:59.:26:00.

through the House of Commons. We don't know what the mood of the

:26:01.:26:03.

House will be and what the whipping arrangements will be. Clearly,

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that's a matter of debate, but I suspect it won't be that different.

:26:07.:26:10.

I think that Brexit is on track and I think we will get Brexit. The

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central issue here. We've had three divisive elections in two years. In

:26:17.:26:19.

Scotland they have had four election ins three years. The public are

:26:20.:26:23.

fed-up. They want the political class to sort this out and the last

:26:24.:26:26.

thing we need is a period of upheaval and new elections. That's a

:26:27.:26:30.

no, no and that's why Theresa May, for the moment, has to stay put and

:26:31.:26:35.

organise a stable administration and engage with other parties and listen

:26:36.:26:38.

to the public and produce a new style of politics which very hadn't

:26:39.:26:43.

had for a long time. OK. Critically, they will have to listen because

:26:44.:26:46.

this is a hole new style of politics and every has to be on the table.

:26:47.:26:50.

Does Theresa May know how to listen? I think she will be a capable Prime

:26:51.:26:54.

Minister. I think we will be able to have a stable Government. Judging on

:26:55.:26:58.

the record now? We have 318 MPs which is more than SNP, Labour and

:26:59.:27:04.

liberals put together and we are in a position where we can govern the

:27:05.:27:07.

country. Let's have some views on Theresa May and her character and

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whether you think she will have to change her approach or listen, what

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do you say? We're hearing from different MPs about Brexit and what

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their positions are, but I don't think many MPs have today said that

:27:19.:27:22.

they there should be a coalition and people should come together and make

:27:23.:27:26.

an agreement. There was a hung parliament which means that there

:27:27.:27:29.

are people of the UK are not completely sure of what their own

:27:30.:27:33.

position on Brexit is and that needs to be reflected by the attitude the

:27:34.:27:37.

Government takes. I mean, that's a really good point. A number of

:27:38.:27:41.

people have suggested some kind of cross party Brexit committee. We

:27:42.:27:44.

already have a Brexit Select Committee. Is there a possibility of

:27:45.:27:49.

something bigger involving more people that would reflect the

:27:50.:27:53.

population more accurately? No, I think that approach is necessary.

:27:54.:27:56.

The details are not central whether it is done through a Select

:27:57.:28:00.

Committee or the parties putting people forward or whether you have

:28:01.:28:03.

some citizens involved. I mean that's detail. But the key point of

:28:04.:28:07.

the Prime Minister and her Government now having to engage with

:28:08.:28:11.

other parties and the rest of the UK, very clearly, to form a

:28:12.:28:15.

compromise approach to Brexit, that's now what has to happen. This

:28:16.:28:20.

isn't new. Just before Christmas the Scottish Government put forward a

:28:21.:28:23.

pan UK compromise document to put independence to one side, to look at

:28:24.:28:27.

a document with, you know, remaining members of the single market of the

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that's the kind of thing we need to get behind and have a committee of

:28:31.:28:33.

experts of the that's something we did from across the political

:28:34.:28:37.

boundaries. Would you support something like that? So any the

:28:38.:28:41.

Government does will have to go through that Parliament and Vince

:28:42.:28:44.

knows being a Parliamentarian for a long time, that getting legislation

:28:45.:28:48.

through Parliament involves compromise and debate and given the

:28:49.:28:51.

numbers, I imagine that there will be debate. There will be a degree of

:28:52.:28:57.

discussion about what we do. The Great Repeal Bill isn't going to

:28:58.:29:00.

involve much repealing. That's the bottom line. It was never about

:29:01.:29:05.

repealing, it was about downloading European legislation. This was

:29:06.:29:11.

ill-defined of the a legacy of vote Leave, a legacy of vote Leave. Hear

:29:12.:29:15.

me out for change. There was a blank piece of paper. Now as a blank piece

:29:16.:29:20.

of paper it is our responsibility to fill in the blanks that vote Leave

:29:21.:29:25.

left. That means that membership of the single marred set has to be open

:29:26.:29:30.

and that's something that is incumbent on all of us to work

:29:31.:29:34.

across political boundaries. More views from here. It's refreshing to

:29:35.:29:40.

hear unity coming through about how we can move forward. Did you hear

:29:41.:29:47.

unity there? The whole thing so far has been about political positioning

:29:48.:29:51.

and winning and losing etcetera, etcetera, whereas a nation we need

:29:52.:29:55.

to come together and sort this out and it is this political

:29:56.:29:58.

childishness where people are squabbling left, right and centre

:29:59.:30:00.

and trying to position themselves into the best possible position,

:30:01.:30:04.

turning from this position to another position. We just heard

:30:05.:30:08.

Chuka Umunna talking about the same thing, he was looking for another

:30:09.:30:11.

job again. It is the same positionment we need to move forward

:30:12.:30:16.

and sort this out as a nation. As grown-ups? As grown-ups, that's all

:30:17.:30:20.

you ever hear. So speaks a Conservative voter. Thank you very

:30:21.:30:23.

much, gentlemen. Thank you for coming on the programme.

:30:24.:30:29.

David Mondal was reappointed Scottish Secretary yesterday.

:30:30.:30:34.

Previously he was the only Scottish MP. He has been speaking the last

:30:35.:30:39.

few minutes. Obviously it is a big change for me. I have spent 12 years

:30:40.:30:44.

in which I have had to agree with myself, now we have some colleagues.

:30:45.:30:49.

We will be looking to make sure that our influence is felt. We played a

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significant part in ensuring that there is a Conservative minority

:30:54.:30:57.

government after this general election, with a fantastic result in

:30:58.:31:02.

Scotland, winning all of those seats, getting second in the popular

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vote and putting our vote up so significantly. But what we will want

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to do is to get the best arrangements for Scotland and indeed

:31:11.:31:13.

the whole of the UK in Brexit and a whole range of other issues. David

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Mondal. Foul on e-mail says, why Labour vilifying maples might

:31:21.:31:28.

handling of Brexit? John on Twitter reflected what some of our voters

:31:29.:31:32.

have been saying, unite and get on with the job of leaving the EU.

:31:33.:31:37.

Somebody said, I don't care what the Conservatives do next, they are a

:31:38.:31:42.

joke and I want to see Jeremy Corbyn as Prime Minister. Wherever you

:31:43.:31:45.

while in the UK, let me know what you want to see happen next. --

:31:46.:31:51.

wherever you are. It is 10:31am. It is time for the latest news

:31:52.:31:53.

headlines with Joanne. Theresa May will today meet

:31:54.:31:58.

backbench Conservative MPs and set out her case for staying

:31:59.:32:00.

on in Downing Street. The Prime Minister will also chair

:32:01.:32:02.

a meeting of her newly The Brexit Secretary, David Davis,

:32:03.:32:05.

has criticised the Conservative MPs who have questioned

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Theresa May's leadership. I have to say, I view all of this

:32:09.:32:11.

talk about the leadership, as it were, as the height

:32:12.:32:14.

of self-indulgence. You know, the British

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people have given us an instruction, they gave us

:32:19.:32:25.

a result we wouldn't have chosen ourselves,

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but they have It is our job to get

:32:28.:32:29.

business through the House of Commons and

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to run the country. I've served with her for ten months,

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she's an extremely good Prime Exit polls following the first

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round of France's parliamentary election suggest President Macron's

:32:43.:32:47.

new centrist party is on course Projections show La Republique en

:32:48.:32:49.

Marche and its MoDem ally look set to win up to 445 of the 577 seats

:32:50.:32:53.

in France's National Assembly. The final outcome will be decided

:32:54.:32:56.

in a run-off next Sunday. Detectives investigating

:32:57.:33:00.

the London Bridge attack have made A 19-year-old man was detained

:33:01.:33:03.

in Barking on suspicion of terrorism offences shortly before

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10pm last night. A new poll suggests many

:33:10.:33:11.

children are confused Nearly one third of 5-7-year-olds

:33:12.:33:20.

survey by the British thought cheese came from a plant,

:33:21.:33:23.

not an animal. Just only one in five believed

:33:24.:33:29.

animals provide us with pasta. And a fifth of those

:33:30.:33:35.

questioned thought chips were That's a summary of

:33:36.:33:37.

the latest BBC News. Do join me at 11am for BBC newsroom

:33:38.:33:44.

life. Wales manager Chris Coleman think

:33:45.:33:48.

they need to win all four of their remaining World Cup qualifiers

:33:49.:33:57.

if they are to be short of reaching Wales drew with Serbia yesterday.

:33:58.:34:05.

Alan Ramsey with the penalty. England's under 20s are the world

:34:06.:34:11.

champions. -- Aaron Ramsey. Gareth Southgate now says it is time for

:34:12.:34:16.

Premier League clubs to nurture home-grown talent. Lewis Hamilton

:34:17.:34:21.

said his team dealt a blow to the Ferraris after winning the Grand

:34:22.:34:29.

Prix. It halved Sebastian Vettel's read in the Championship. Rafa Nadal

:34:30.:34:37.

won the French Open tennis for Iraq -- a record tenth time. He is now

:34:38.:34:41.

winning Grand Slams in his 30s. A huge congratulations to Rafa Nadal.

:34:42.:34:46.

STUDIO: Margaret on Facebook said that Labour should accept they lost

:34:47.:34:52.

and everyone should get on with their job. The Tories have messed up

:34:53.:35:00.

again, I say" is there it and no more pay rises for themselves,

:35:01.:35:03.

Russell says, Labour showing they are irresponsible attempting to cash

:35:04.:35:12.

in on the hung parliament. Mae limps on but won't last. Another election?

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Definitely. It was the result almost nobody predicted, including many

:35:19.:35:22.

within Labour. A big part of the party's success has been put down to

:35:23.:35:26.

younger voters turning out, mobilised by a sense that their

:35:27.:35:30.

voices have not been heard in previous elections. A powerful

:35:31.:35:34.

social media campaign and by support of Jeremy Corbyn as leader from

:35:35.:35:41.

various artists including this crime for Corbyn movement. -- grime for

:35:42.:35:47.

Corbyn movement. Let me introduce you to Bafta

:35:48.:36:23.

winning actor and rapper Adam Deacon, who met Jeremy Corbyn last

:36:24.:36:27.

year. He watched a play which Adam was performing in. You are part of

:36:28.:36:34.

the Grime4Corbyn campaign. Hello, Becker. And we have MC Saskilla, who

:36:35.:36:42.

headlined the Grime4Corbyn concert in London last week. We don't yet

:36:43.:36:47.

have the actual specific figures for voter turnout of 18-24 -year-old is.

:36:48.:36:53.

We know 1.5 million 18 to 24-year-olds registered to vote. How

:36:54.:36:57.

much of the difference do you think that made for Labour? I think it

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must have made a massive difference. Because young people care about

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politics. There is a mess out there that people are not interested, but

:37:07.:37:09.

if you give them a chance they care about what is going on. It is great

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that young people came out and made their voice heard. I agree, I think

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there is something exceptional about the selection in terms of the sheer

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amount of Indonesia is that you saw from young voters and the amount

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that came out to register. That has to do with Jeremy Corbyn as a

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candidate and the kind of Labour Party that he is running, it has

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offered young people a programme that they can believe in. How old

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are you? I am 25. OK, what about yourself, in terms of Jeremy Corbyn

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managing to engage so many younger people? He has done something that

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no politician has done before, which is actually genuinely care. It seems

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a cliche, but he genuinely does care. He seems as though he's from a

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similar background. He's always fighting for the underprivileged,

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that is the background of grime as a whole. He is actually from a

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middle-class background. That's just human nature, caring, it is

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something that he is doing. You can see the people that are fake and the

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people who are saying staff for the sake of saying it. That's

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interesting, you think younger people have more of a... I was going

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to say every word then, more of a detector for those are authentic to

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those who are not. Theresa mate does not care about the underprivileged,

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she doesn't care about nobody. Jeremy Corbyn has fought for causes,

:38:39.:38:43.

he has been fighting for apartheid, he has fought for injustices. We can

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see from the internet generation, social media, we can see that.

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Theresa May said on the steps of Downing Street, when she became

:38:52.:38:55.

Prime Minister she talked about the underprivileged, those who have a

:38:56.:39:02.

sense of burning injustice. If she could tell me what Lidl looks like,

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I would have thought she was insane, I'll tell you that right now! People

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can see through things, especially young people, they can spot that

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fate is. I think Germany Corbyn... Whatever his policies are about

:39:19.:39:23.

coming he cares. You can sense that from him. You can really read that.

:39:24.:39:30.

Has Jeremy Corbyn ever been to Lidl, do you think" I reckon a lot of

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people who work for him, and I reckon when he goes to Arsenal he

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has taken Lidl food from the people sitting next to him in this land is.

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But he hasn't been himself? Why not? He is a down-to-earth guy. It is

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incredibly refreshing to see you guys, especially bringing about an

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increase in voter turnout. I think regardless of where you sit on the

:39:55.:39:59.

political spectrum, PUA Conservative, Labour, Lib Dem,

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green, to see young people interested is a great thing for a

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democracy. I love what Jeremy Corbyn dead. He made me and people I know

:40:08.:40:12.

feel like our voice actually matters -- I love what Jeremy Corbyn did. I

:40:13.:40:17.

don't feel like there is a hung parliament because of us, but maybe

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if some of us didn't vote then it... How much of it is down to Jeremy

:40:24.:40:28.

Corbyn the man or his policies? The kind of things he put forward in the

:40:29.:40:34.

manifesto? His manifesto related to me as I agreed with. A lot of it was

:40:35.:40:39.

on my Twitter. Seeing him there, and Grime4Corbyn was a winner for me,

:40:40.:40:47.

honestly. I think it was a bit of both. I spoke to Jeremy Corbyn, the

:40:48.:40:53.

date before the election was called. He seemed like such a genuine

:40:54.:40:57.

person, genuinely caring for the people. Theresa May's thing about

:40:58.:41:02.

health for workers, it seemed so random. You don't believe her? No,

:41:03.:41:08.

and I think when Jeremy Corbyn is trying to be for the people, he is

:41:09.:41:12.

trying to be for everybody, not just the people he feels like being four.

:41:13.:41:16.

The Grime4Corbyn made it more aggression for young people to say,

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OK, let's see what it's about and go out there and actually vote and it

:41:22.:41:27.

obviously worked. You had become interested and engaged in politics

:41:28.:41:29.

because of Jeremy Corbyn? Yes, because... This is the first time I

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have voted, and Jeremy Corbyn was something different in this country.

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All our politicians are exactly the same, and he was a new alternative.

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Whoever is on social media, the young are not engaged because we

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don't really watch the news, it's all about Twitter and Facebook. That

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is why I picked Jeremy Corbyn. What's exciting and interesting is

:41:55.:41:59.

that young people are coming out, we have got different personalities

:42:00.:42:02.

with Theresa May, her style, Jeremy Corbyn, his style. Because of the

:42:03.:42:06.

personalities that doesn't mean to say that Theresa May is not

:42:07.:42:11.

interested. You are a Conservative voter? Do you prefer the approach of

:42:12.:42:17.

Theresa May or Jeremy Corbyn? I believe that personalities need to

:42:18.:42:21.

blend as much as possible. I'm going to make you pick!

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LAUGHTER I'm not going to say I prefer Jeremy

:42:24.:42:27.

Corbyn's style because you need a business style when it comes to

:42:28.:42:31.

politics. Jeremy Corbyn is a campaigner. He is a protester, we

:42:32.:42:35.

all know that. But the most important thing is this, that

:42:36.:42:38.

normally people do not actively engage with the young people before

:42:39.:42:43.

elections. After elections. Now we hopes in this process will continue.

:42:44.:42:50.

We will see. Thank you very much, all of you. When the Prime Minister

:42:51.:43:01.

called the election in mid April, according to the polls, the

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Conservatives had as much as a 21% lead over Jeremy Corbyn and the

:43:05.:43:06.

Labour Party. There was talk of Theresa May winning a majority of a

:43:07.:43:09.

hundred seats or more. Of hammering the opposition. One poll suggested

:43:10.:43:11.

she was more popular than any leader since the 1970s. Yet here we are,

:43:12.:43:20.

less than two months later, and she's clinging to power. Yesterday,

:43:21.:43:22.

The Prime Minister's former cabinet colleague George Osborne said she's

:43:23.:43:24.

a 'dead woman walking.' It's safe to say, for one reason or another, the

:43:25.:43:27.

campaign has been a bit of a 'mare, for Mrs May. Just a quick warning if

:43:28.:43:30.

you're photosensitive - this video has bright flashes in it.

:43:31.:43:35.

I have just chaired a meeting of the Cabinet, where we agreed

:43:36.:43:38.

that the Government should call a general election, to be

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I've called an election because of Brexit.

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You've called a general election for the good

:43:57.:43:58.

of the Conservative Party, and it's going to backfire on you.

:43:59.:44:02.

Unless the exit poll is incredibly wrong,

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the Prime Minister has failed to achieve her principal objective.

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Can we agree, to start with, that the one thing that voters

:44:33.:44:52.

deserve, in what you yourself have said is going to be a very,

:44:53.:44:55.

very important election, is no sound bites?

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And there's a reason for talking about strong and stable leadership.

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Strong, strong, strong and stable leadership under me and my team.

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We're in one of the most marginal seats in the country here,

:45:20.:45:28.

this is your second visit of the campaign.

:45:29.:45:30.

Are you getting nervous, and do you see Plymouth

:45:31.:45:32.

I'm very clear that this is a crucial election for this country.

:45:33.:45:36.

We need to ensure we get Brexit negotiations right but also

:45:37.:45:43.

have a plan to take this country forward.

:45:44.:45:45.

Plymouth's a very proud Armed Forces city.

:45:46.:45:46.

We're seeing the closure of our naval barracks,

:45:47.:45:50.

the sale of HMS Ocean, 40 Commando taken out of service.

:45:51.:45:52.

Can you guarantee our Armed Forces families that they will be

:45:53.:45:55.

I'm very clear that Plymouth has a proud record of connection

:45:56.:45:59.

A lot of people in Plymouth voted for Brexit because they saw

:46:00.:46:03.

How will your Brexit plan make Plymouth people better off?

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Well, I think there is a better future ahead for Plymouth

:46:09.:46:10.

There are opportunities when we leave the European Union,

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but we need to have the right Government in place,

:46:16.:46:17.

the right plan to grasp those opportunities.

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I trust the British public, I'm asking them

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Have you heard they've called an election?

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Yes, and I don't think they should have done.

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Oh, for God's sake, I can't, honestly, I can't stand this.

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Well, let's look at social care for the elderly.

:46:38.:46:53.

Four days ago your manifesto rejected a cap on social care costs.

:46:54.:46:56.

Today you've announced a cap. That sounds pretty half-baked.

:46:57.:46:59.

Nothing has changed from the principles on social care

:47:00.:47:02.

policy that we set out in our manifesto.

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You've backtracked on your social care policy and your entire

:47:10.:47:12.

manifesto has holes in it, and everyone else can see that.

:47:13.:47:17.

A Tory U-turn on social care would be extremely welcome,

:47:18.:47:20.

because I want this country to face up to its responsibilities.

:47:21.:47:25.

She wants to be strong and stable, the Prime Minister that is steely

:47:26.:47:28.

and determined and has resolve, but the toing and froing

:47:29.:47:34.

and U-turning and irascibility in press conferences,

:47:35.:47:36.

all that corrupts exactly the kind of brand of leadership

:47:37.:47:38.

that she wants to make her biggest asset.

:47:39.:47:44.

What's the naughtiest thing you ever did?

:47:45.:47:47.

Nobody's ever perfectly behaved, are they?

:47:48.:47:59.

I have to confess when me and my friends used to run

:48:00.:48:02.

through the fields of wheat, the farmers weren't too

:48:03.:48:04.

Many former MPs compare losing their seats to a "bereavement" -

:48:05.:48:30.

for many serving the country has been their lifetime ambition

:48:31.:48:33.

and the manner in which they lose can be pretty brutal.

:48:34.:48:45.

In politics, you live by the sword and you die by the sword.

:48:46.:48:48.

I am standing down today as the leader of Ukip,

:48:49.:48:50.

Proud to be part of the United Kingdom.

:48:51.:48:53.

Zac Goldsmith is duly elected as Member of Parliament

:48:54.:48:55.

It's easy to be wise after the event.

:48:56.:49:03.

I knew it would be a challenge in my seat, and, as I say,

:49:04.:49:07.

it's been a huge privilege to represent it.

:49:08.:49:11.

I'd like to say thank you to my family, to my mum,

:49:12.:49:13.

Neil Carmichael is here. You lost your seat and you blame Theresa May.

:49:14.:49:58.

Sarah Olney, who was a Liberal Democrat MP

:49:59.:50:00.

for only six months before losing her seat back

:50:01.:50:03.

to Conservative Zac Goldsmith, and Conservative Rob Wilson,

:50:04.:50:05.

who was charities minister and MP for Reading East until Labour took

:50:06.:50:08.

Also with us to offer some advice Angela Smith

:50:09.:50:11.

who lost her labour seat of Penistone and

:50:12.:50:13.

Basildon. The MP for Stockbridge is still

:50:14.:50:22.

there. You haven't got the wrong guest, have you? Famous a power

:50:23.:50:29.

station and track for making. You blame Theresa May. Do you blame

:50:30.:50:33.

Theresa May? No, I don't have any bitterness or anger about what

:50:34.:50:36.

happened. How come? Are you not human? Of course, I'm human, but I

:50:37.:50:41.

do want my party to succeed. I want the Government to succeed, I want

:50:42.:50:44.

the Prime Minister to succeed. So there is no point in my having any

:50:45.:50:49.

bitterness, I want to make sure that the Brexit thing happens properly

:50:50.:51:00.

and we get on dealing with the health service. The general election

:51:01.:51:05.

didn't go our wrong. It was probably not the right thing to have done by

:51:06.:51:08.

calling it. The manifesto was not helpful and the tonne of the

:51:09.:51:11.

campaign was unhelpful. But there are opportunities. You pointed out

:51:12.:51:15.

I'm a Remainor and I have noted already there is a focus on moving

:51:16.:51:19.

away from hard Brexit towards something more sensible and I intend

:51:20.:51:26.

to play my part in making sure that move is entrenched and we do get a

:51:27.:51:29.

proper deal for Britain because I don't want to wake up one day and

:51:30.:51:34.

discover we've left the European Union at skyline is hot with fire as

:51:35.:51:40.

the bridges of burnt. That would be a disaster. Sarah, in your vic tread

:51:41.:51:44.

speech not long ago, you said winning the seat had sent shockwaves

:51:45.:51:48.

through Theresa May's Brexit policy. What does you losing your seat so

:51:49.:51:53.

quickly mean? I don't think it changes that much. In the

:51:54.:51:56.

by-election I was standing against Zac as an independent, but this time

:51:57.:52:01.

he was standing as a Conservative. The Conservative pitch was very much

:52:02.:52:03.

strong and stable leadership. In the time I was in Parliament, Article 50

:52:04.:52:07.

got triggered. People were feeling there was no way back from Brexit

:52:08.:52:11.

and I think those people who voted in my constituency for the

:52:12.:52:13.

Conservative Party, because they thought that was the best way to

:52:14.:52:17.

make sure that we got a strong negotiating hand I think a lot of

:52:18.:52:21.

those people will be feeling very disappointed. Are you any of you

:52:22.:52:25.

pessimistic, depressed down, thinking oh my god, I have got to

:52:26.:52:29.

fin a job? Yeah, of course, the realisation hits you the following

:52:30.:52:31.

morning that you have got to find something to do because your diary

:52:32.:52:35.

is packed full of engagements and things and all of a sudden it has

:52:36.:52:42.

all gone. Angela? If you're doing your job properly, every day is

:52:43.:52:50.

packed and then suddenly it stops and you're emotionally and

:52:51.:52:55.

physically drained, but there is life after the House of Commons.

:52:56.:53:00.

They have gained experience and the people they have met, but it is a

:53:01.:53:04.

very public loss. You stand up there in front of people and some who

:53:05.:53:07.

haven't supported you and you say, "I've lost." That does take its

:53:08.:53:12.

toll. Families worry about the ex-MPs as well. Don't get down

:53:13.:53:16.

hearted about it. Some MPs come back to the House of Commons because they

:53:17.:53:20.

want to, but most get on. A friend of my who lost her seat in 2010 said

:53:21.:53:24.

I discovered something. It is a thing called six o'clock. What do

:53:25.:53:27.

you mean? Lots of people get home from six o'clock and put the news on

:53:28.:53:32.

and cook their tea at six o'clock. MPs never do that. Do you want

:53:33.:53:35.

another quick election so you can have a chance of coming back? I do.

:53:36.:53:39.

Do you? I'm frustrated that I can't get on with the work I was doing

:53:40.:53:46.

before which I have highlighted. Destabilising the country? Let's

:53:47.:53:50.

define early. I think the Prime Minister should be forming a

:53:51.:53:53.

Government. Is forming a Government and I think that Government should

:53:54.:53:57.

be given a chance to get entrenched, but there are risks with DUP, being

:53:58.:54:01.

part of the Government. I think there are issues about the Northern

:54:02.:54:05.

Ireland agreement. Is it Daning throws get into bed with the DUP

:54:06.:54:09.

then? Well, it all depends what you are awe talking about. The peace

:54:10.:54:13.

process? Very dangerous. It makes it very difficult. There are risks here

:54:14.:54:18.

for the Good Friday Agreement and also for the situation ironically

:54:19.:54:23.

with Brexit in terms of the border between Northern Ireland and the

:54:24.:54:27.

Republic. Those are things we have got to keep our eye on and I will be

:54:28.:54:31.

doing that in or out of Parliament. Theresa May didn't have to have this

:54:32.:54:35.

election. I don't think it was an unnecessary election. It backfired,

:54:36.:54:39.

but it was the right call to make actually. I think she called this

:54:40.:54:43.

election and she called primarily because she thought she could win a

:54:44.:54:46.

much bigger majority. She called it because she called it a Brexit

:54:47.:54:50.

election, but it enned up, I think, being the public's opportunity to

:54:51.:54:54.

have their say on public spending, public services, austerity, and I

:54:55.:54:58.

think what will be most frustrating now for members of the public is it

:54:59.:55:01.

will still all the political class are talking about is still Brexit

:55:02.:55:04.

and because it is a weakened Government they are not going to

:55:05.:55:08.

have the opportunity to really implement some of those spending

:55:09.:55:11.

changes that the public really want to see. I do think while the public

:55:12.:55:14.

might think I don't want another election to get a strong Government,

:55:15.:55:18.

not Theresa May's current Government, whatever it might look

:55:19.:55:21.

like, but a strong Government in power would be in the best interests

:55:22.:55:25.

of the British public. I'm going to leave it there. Thank you very much

:55:26.:55:28.

for your patience as well. We wish you all the best. Thank you and I

:55:29.:55:32.

will be back again. He is determined to be back againment he can't wait

:55:33.:55:34.

for the next election. This election has led

:55:35.:55:36.

to the most diverse bunch There are now more women, more gay

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MPs, more MPs with disabilities, more ethnic minority MPs

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than ever before. There was a boy who went to his

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career advisors at school and the careers advisor said what do you

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want to be when you're grown up and that 15-year-old with cerebral palsy

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said I want to be a politician. That boy is me. Is duly elected to serve

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as the MP for Battersea. Let's speak now to two

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of the new MPs breaking boundaries. Tanmanjeet Singh Desi,

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or Tan as he's known, the first turban-wearing Sikh

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MP, he too is Labour. How are you feeling? It is history

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in the making. While British Sikhs and Sikhs further afield would have

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their own high expectations, I am aware that I am the MP for Slough so

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their hopes and aspirations are, you know, my primary concern. Leyla? It

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was a snap election. We were getting on with other parts of our lives and

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it's interesting that my background has come to the fore now, but that

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wasn't my platform. My platform was about the NHS and education and

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being the best possible area for my area and that's what I intend to do.

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In terms of your brack ground, what do you hope to bring to the Commons

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as a result of that briefly? Well, one thing is, I think the brightly

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coloured turbans and there should be a splash of colour in there, but

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working in the true Sikh ethos which is working for the betterment of

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all. That's how I will seek to serve. I think we are in amazing

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times in politics and to have different prospectives adding to

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that debate, I think, can only be a good thing. OK. Thank you very much,

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both of you and congratulations. Thank you very much to our audience.

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You have been marvellous. Thank you for giving up your Monday morning.

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Give yourselves a round of applause thank you. We're back tomorrow at

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9am. Have a good day.

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