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Hello, it's nine o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling,

The dead and the missing and now the search for answers as police warned

they may never be able to identify all the victims of the Groenefeld

fire. I am Mark Lowen outside Groenefeld

Tower, where it is -- weather continued attempts to identify those

inside and there are fears that the number who have died may rise to 60.

Mohammed Alhajali was the first person who died in the blaze

on Wednesday to be named - he was a 23-year-old Syrian refugee

who had fled the war for a better life here.

We are going to be talking to his brother, Hashem,

and Abdulaziz Almashi, his best friend.

We will bring you all the latest updates from the scene of the fire

Nurse Pauline Cafferkey contracted Ebola in Sierra Leone while working

She's returned to the country to see how the people are coping today.

Most of the aid agencies have pulled out. It's like it's almost

forgotten, but it's not. These people are still living through this

and living with the aftermath. Hello.

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police have warned that they may never be able

to identify all those who died in the fire that engulfed

Grenfell Tower in West London in the early hours

of Wednesday morning. The emergency services will spend

a third day searching 17 people are known to have died,

but dozens remain unaccounted The first victim of the fire

to be officially named is Mohammed Alhajali,

a Syrian refugee who came to Britain His brother was led to safety

by firefighters, but, in the chaos and confusion,

Mohammed got left behind. I thought they took

him outside with me! Some of those trapped

in the blaze did survive. We now know this man

is Elpidio Bonifacio, a partially blind

grandfather in his 70s. His family say he is in intensive

care, suffering from They have thanked the bravery

of the firefighters who risked Elpidio was finally rescued 11 hours

after the blaze started. There is anger in the community,

directed at almost anyone The London Mayor Sadiq Khan saw it

for himself when he went to visit. How many children died

and what are you going Police say they have now started

a criminal investigation. That's not to say there

was a crime committed, but they will investigate

to establish if there's any The list of the dead

and missing grows all the time. Police have voiced the hope

that the final number of casualties They admit that some victims may

never be identified. The leader of the local council said

they did think about installing sprinkler system in Grenfell Tower

when it was renovated last year, but he said there was

no collective view Losing the suit is a firefighter and

trade union official at the Fire Brigades Union London branch. See

she describes the distressing scenes witnessed by colleagues. One

colleague said he was going in literally having to choose who to

save to leave and died because you only have two hands, can only take

out so many people. My colleagues went in, took people out, went in,

two people off again. The red watch Chelsea were meant to finish at

9:30am and they did not get back to the station until 5pm, they would

have stayed longer if they had been allowed. That is a tribute to the

brave men and women who attended this incident. The scenes they would

have encountered in the early hours of Tuesday morning, it is absolutely

unimaginable. Mark Lowen is in West London

and following the latest What is the latest? 17 people are

known to have been killed in this fire. Several more are still in

hospital and police say they fear that the number of known fatalities

could rise above 60. There are efforts to try to get insight

Groenefeld Tower to try to identify the remains of victims but they have

not been able to get to the top floor, the upper floors. Sniffer

dogs have been sent in, it is too unstable for people to go in.

They're using dental records, DNA samples and finger prints to try to

identify the victims but they say the total number of known fatalities

may never be known because it is too difficult to piece together the

remains of the bodies inside. Meanwhile, on the investigation, the

finger of suspicion points to the cladding. A report in The Times

today that the company that installed the cladding was told that

in the US that kind of cheap plastic cladding which is not flame

retardant is not used on high buildings, there is still suspicion

of what was responsible here but as yet the investigation is in the

early stages as to what caused this horrific inferno. We saw some of the

anger of those who live around there, some of the residents, what

is the mood? There is anger, there is a demand for accountability and a

demand for heads to roll, we have heard from some people. There is a

demand for greater political engagement from the Government. You

saw yesterday Theresa May making a private visit to the Grenfell Tower,

Jeremy Corbyn and Sadiq Khan met the victims. That was seen by critics as

a lack of empathy on the part of the Prime Minister. There is a real

feeling that this must not be allowed to happen again and a fear

that in the thousands of other towers sprinkled across this

country, this city, that they should not meet the same fate. Fear about

fire regulations, a fear about the state put policy, buildings where

the Rizwan staircase and a lack of such -- a lack of sprinklers and

central alarms. These fears are reverberating from the of Grenfell

Tower. Let's go to our political correspondent Chris Mason.

There are demands for action to be taken quickly, an investigation is

under way. What sense is there about what politicians can and should do?

Politicians at Westminster are acutely aware of the scale of what

has happened and that there is a huge number of questions coming

their way, not just in the direction of national politicians but local

ones as well. I think there is also an awareness that this is a new and

a fragile Government that is having to respond to tragedy in a way that

is seen to be financially astute and logistically and, yes, emotionally.

The Government yesterday announced a full independent public inquiry led

by a judge, we don't yet know who that will be or the exact terms of

reference or timescale. Certainly there is a demand from some that

while there is a recognition that public inquiries can be very useful

in establishing exactly where there may have been deficiencies in

policies in the past, not just from the current Government good previous

ones, they tend to take time and some MPs want to see an interim

report sooner rather than later. There is a chance for politicians of

all political stripes to visit the area themselves. We saw the Prime

Minister yesterday, criticism from Labour figures that she did not meet

local people. Communities Secretary Sajid Javid has spent the morning

giving interviews about the Government response, heading there

today and likely to meet people on the ground. The Government is well

aware of the scale and volume of the questions coming and understandably

the intense anger. Thank you, Chris. Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary A second soldier has died

after being wounded in an incident involving a tank at an army firing

range in Pembrokeshire. Two other soldiers were injured

at Castlemartin Ranges on Wednesday. The flags are at half

mast at Pembrokeshire, after the tragic events

of Wednesday afternoon, which resulted in the deaths

of two servicemen. It is still unclear exactly

what happened, but the BBC understands that four members

from the Royal Tank Regiment were gravely injured in an incident

involving the ammunition and another Three soldiers were taken

to hospital in south Wales, with one being taken directly

to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham, which has a dedicated

wing for treating injured Yesterday afternoon,

the Ministry of Defence announced that one soldier had died

in hospital and late last night the Minister of Defence,

People and Veterans confirmed the death of a second

member of the team. The range was opened by the War

office in 1938. It is one of the two ranges

in the UK where armed units The MoD, police and the Health

and Safety Executive are investigating and a temporary

ban on tanklike firing has been The Archbishop of Canterbury

will speak at a service of hope at Southwark Cathedral today,

in honour of first-responders, families and survivors

of the London Bridge attack. Eight people were killed when three

attackers drove a van into pedestrians on London Bridge,

and then launched a knife attack at Borough Market just

under two weeks ago. President Trump is expected

to announce a change in policy towards Cuba during a visit to Miami

today, tightening trade and travel restrictions that had been relaxed

by President Obama. Americans will still be allowed

to travel to the communist island, but mainly as part

of organised groups. Mr Trump is also expected

to prohibit doing business with the commercial and tourism

wings of the Cuban military. Doctors treating the American

student who was released from a North Korean prison

in a coma say he has suffered Otto Warmbier was freed on Tuesday

and is back home in Cincinnati. It's not clear how he

sustained brain damage. He was given a long prison sentence

in March last year for trying The Labour MP Jo Cox is being

remembered across the country on the first anniversary

of her murder. The mother of two was killed

as she arrived for a constituency surgery in Birstall in West

Yorkshire. More than 110,000 events

are being held today and over the weekend as part

of The Great Get Together. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9:30am. Let's get some sport now

with Katherine Downes. Some low scores after the first

round rubber US Open? Yes, conditions in Wisconsin looked

pretty perfect, a bit of rain softened the fairways and made the

Greens a bit more forgiving, that all of the top six golfers in the

world are over par. Let's see who is going well, Rickie Fowler leads the

way, shooting an opening round of 67, seven under par, equalling the

record of the lowest first round score at the U.S. Open. Paul Casey

of England is just behind him on six under, very chuffed with his round,

chipping in for an eagle. Tommy Fleetwood, another Englishman in the

mix, he is five and tied for fourth. He missed the cut in six of his

previous seven major appearances. He would have to have a disaster to do

that again. Rory McIlroy is really struggling, missing here. He

defended how thick the wrath of Arran Hills is by saying if you

cannot hit the fairways at a big tournament like this you might as

well pack your bags and go home, but he only hit five in the whole of his

round, so not doing as well as he should have. A stunning performance

from middle-distance runner Jake Wightman last night? Jake Wightman

knocked a second off his personal best to win his first Diamond

League. Let's look at how he did it. He has been in great form this

summer so far, a recent personal best did not suggest he would pull

this out of the bag. He beat the 2015 world silver medallist from

Kenya into second. He beat a really quality line-up, really convincing

as a victory. He took to Twitter yesterday to say he was in utter

shock, I cannot believe I have just won a Diamond League. Always nice to

see dreams coming true on the track! Thank you very much.

Hundreds of people have been left homeless following the Grenfell

The extraordinary community effort has seen people donate clothes,

food and even open up their homes to give those in need

The first named victim of the fire is Mohammed Alhajali.

The 23-year-old had only been in the UK for three years,

having fled war-torn Syria with his brothers Omar

and Hashem, and had settled into a new life here as a refugee.

He tried to call family to say goodbye, but couldn't get through.

Mohammed became separated from his brother, Omar,

Omar ended up in a local hospital, but his brother never made it

They said the fire was in the next room.

They opened the door and the smoke came inside,

I thought they were pushing all of us.

I couldn't talk, I couldn't look around, I couldn't see anything.

I called him, I said, "Where are you?"

They brought us outside, I thought you were with us."

He said, "No one brought me outside."

Another of Mohammed's brothers, Hashem, joins me now.

Along with some of his friends - Randa, who spoke to Mohammad

the night before he died - and Abdulaziz Almashi,

who is the co-founder of the Syria Solidarity Campaign,

which promotes freedom, peace and democracy in Syria.

Thank you all for joining us. Our condolences, Hashim. How are you

coping? You can say everything has collapsed. We were doing well. We

were settling down in the UK. Suddenly everything just collapsed.

I don't think we can cope as we did before. You are just 20. We heard

from your brother, Omar, who was in the building and survived. Obviously

traumatised, as we can see in the interview. You had already been

through a lot. You left Syria hoping for a better life. How is Omar now?

Omar is really not good. He is not good. He couldn't, grow today. He

just sits down and he sees the whole thing moving in front of his eyes

every time. He is just staring. He can see the whole movie, you can

say. Every time he just sits and talked us through the story and he

just cries. Yeah, he is not good. What support are you getting?

Nothing. The only support will be offered by my family. I don't think

anyone else can help. Where is Omar? He is homeless now, as some in ER.

They took him to accommodation. You want your parents to be able to come

for the funeral. They are still in Syria. Is it fun to be possible? We

are not sure. We want this to happen. My mum has cried lots of

tears when she heard. She said she had been waiting to see him for four

years but then he died and she couldn't see him. At least I can see

his grave, I can see his body before they bury him. I want to kiss him. I

want to stand where they bury him. I want to see everything belongs to

Muhammad. It's devastating. I don't know what to say. When did you last

speak to him? I spoke to him in the last month. -- in the last moments.

I spoke to him when he was in the tower. That must have been so hard?

This is obviously so difficult for all of the friends and loved ones of

Muhammad. You spoke to him, when? I spoke to him around ten days ago. We

are planning an event tomorrow in memory of Jo Cox. The Syrian

communities, refugees. He was set to come to the event, to participate in

the event. But unfortunately, he will be rest. When you look at this

tragedy, there are loads of questions come cross my mind. I

mean, he came here to seek safety, to establish a good life. I once

asked him why he was studying civil engineering, and he said because he

wanted to go back to Syria and help to rebuild Syria. And yes, he is a

big loss for his family, for us as friends and the community in London.

And definitely, he is a big loss for Syria as well. You have just given

us a little glimpse into Muhammed. What sort of person was the? He was

a lovely person. He was caring, intelligent, charitable. He has

passion for his family, for his country. An amazing individual. I

literally can't mention one negative thing about his character. He has

been absolutely brilliant. Tell us more about your brother? My brother

was his friend. -- my friend. He was very humble with all his friends as

well. Although there was a gap in the age is between me and him, we

were like friends in the same age. He would never annoy anyone. He was

nice to every person. He was kind, he was intelligent. He would learn

things quickly. He would run for his life. You are a friend as well. When

did you last speak to Muhammad? I saw him recently, shortly before he

passed away. Really shocking just to hear of him on the news, without

having had a chance to speak to him before. How will you remember him?

Somebody who was always smiling, always happy, always happy to see

his friends. You never got any negative vibe from him. Obviously it

is a time of trauma and total shock. Is their anger? There is, of course.

There is anger because more Hamid Hassan always tried to bring his

family. When he was talking to me over the phone, he said, tell my mum

and dad to forgive me. He asked me if I forgive him. I said, why do I

need to forgive you? You have been an amazing person, my brother and

everything. Why do I need to forgive you? He said, please just say it. I

said, I forgive you. Everybody forgives you. Everybody loves you.

All of those affected so deeply by this, how do you move forward? It is

really tough. For someone who came from a war zone to seek safety, for

example, and then he ends up in such a tragic event is really shocking.

It is unbelievable. I can't oh -- I can't imagine how Omar will get over

it. He didn't just love -- lose his brother. But he lived the whole

experience. I have been watching what has been going on in my country

for the last six years. They show many pictures of bombing in Aleppo

and the outskirts of Damascus. I literally haven't seen one single

building engulfed with fire like this, and that's in a war zone. This

strikes me. We are in London, 2017, and you see a huge building like

this engulfed with fire in half an hour. Where you think you are safe.

Someone must have responsibility for those who lost their lives. I was

literally watching it live. I tried to call Omar. I couldn't get

through. I tried to call his cousin. I couldn't get through. I knew they

lived in that building. But I never anticipated someone would die there.

It is just incredible. The management organisations, the local

council, why didn't they listen to the people who raised problems and

concerns about safety measures in the building? Had you ever been

aware, Hashem, about any concerns being raised by your brother 's?

Yes, the gas was leaking in the building. It was not working in the

flat. It was not working for a year. Then the gas Company came and they

fixed new gas pipes. These gas pipes were fitted on the outside of the

wall, not the inside. They were exposed. The residents complained.

They were sending messages through the post for everybody to complain.

It is not right. It was very dangerous. There were no smoke

alarms. Just three days before the incident, they came and fitted smoke

alarms in the flat. I was in the flat that day. The man at the door

said, we need to check for fire alarms. We said we didn't have any.

So he fixed one. There was one in your flat? There wasn't any and then

they put one. There was nothing. There were no safety precautions for

fire. Nothing at all. I just want to add something. I want to say to the

politicians of this country, please meet us. These people want to bring

their families here. Their family is in a war zone. They are concerned

about the fate of their families. They live in Syria. And now their

family are concerned about their safety in London. Please help them

to be reunited with their family. Maybe that will help Omar, that will

help Hashem over what they have been through. They really need their

families. We would love to help as a committee here. I would never

compensate for their mum, their sisters, their dad. I urge the

Leader of the Opposition, the Prime Minister, everyone, please meet the

people and help them to get their family over. One heart-warming

aspect of this has been how people have come together. There has been

amazing support within the community. What have you seen

happen? Obviously people have gathered to help all of the victims,

including Mohammed's family. But no family, no friend, no relative, no

member of the public, could fill the place that Mohammed's mum and dad

and his immediate family could fill. His sisters back in Syria as well.

To find out about his death through social media is difficult enough.

And then having to watch also possibly the funeral on TV, social

media, I mean, it's something that I don't think anybody deserves to go

through. Is that how your family found out in Syria? They foundered

because Mohammed was with his friend. Omar was with his friend he

came down. Mohammed was talking to him over the phone. Mohammed was

crying and he said, please put me onto my mum, I want to speak to.

Then he was praying. He couldn't put him through to my mum. I don't know

why. And then he just sent a message on what's upsetting, goodbye mum, I

love you. Yeah. I am so sorry. What will you do know? I don't know. I

wouldn't do anything without my family. When we came here, we knew

we could do something for my family. I knew I could improve my life. But

the main thing was that I could do something in the future for my

family. Now after Mohammed has died, and 100% sure I can't do anything

without my family. They are the only people who can support me and

support Omar. And support themselves as well if they come here.

Thank you all very much for coming in.

Still to come, nurse Pauline Cafferkey returns to Sierra Leone,

where she contracted Ebola, to see how the country is coping

We will also be talking more about the aftermath of that horrific fire.

One man who was a hero of the Borough Market attack lose a stone's

throw from Grenfell Tower, and he is still searching for friends. We will

talk to him. Here's Annita McVeigh

in the BBC Newsroom Thank you. Police are warning they

may never be able to identify some of those who died in the fire at

Grenfell Tower in west London. 17 bodies have been found so far but

the number of fatalities is expected to rise significantly. The Prime

Minister, Theresa May, has ordered a full public enquiry into the fire.

Lucy Massoud is a firefighter and trade union official at the Fire

Brigades Union London branch. She has been describing what some of her

colleagues witnessed. The conversations I have had, one

colleague said he was going in there and literally having to choose who

to save and who to leave and die. You only have two hands, you can

only take out so many people. My colleagues who went in, took the

lead, went in again, they were meant to finish work at 9:30am on

Wednesday morning, they didn't get back on to the station until five

o'clock in the afternoon. They would have stayed longer at the incident

if they were allowed to. That is an absolute tribute to the brave men

and women who attended this incident. But yeah, the scenes they

would have encountered in the early hours of Tuesday morning, it is

unimaginable. The Communities Secretary,

Sajid Javid, is due to visit A littler earlier, he said he wanted

to reassure people living in similar This is being done

in a matter of days. I think those people need

to be given reassurance The first point is obviously

to identify these There are about 4000 high-rise

buildings in the country but not all of them have been

re-cladded but also, let's not just make the assumption it's

all about cladding. As soon as we have more information

from the experts, which we expect either later today

or certainly over the weekend, then that is what I think should be used

to do these emergency inspections. A second soldier has died

after being wounded in an incident involving a tank at an army firing

range in Pembrokeshire. He was serving with the Royal Tank

Regiment. Two other soldiers were injured

at Castlemartin Ranges on Wednesday. The Archbishop of Canterbury

will speak at a service of hope at Southwark Cathedral today,

in honour of first-responders, families and survivors

of the London Bridge attack. Eight people were killed when three

attackers drove a van into pedestrians on London Bridge,

and then launched a knife attack at Borough Market just

under two weeks ago. President Trump is expected

to announce a change in policy towards Cuba during a visit to Miami

today, tightening trade and travel restrictions that had been relaxed

by President Obama. Americans will still be allowed

to travel to the communist island, but mainly as part

of organised groups. Mr Trump is also expected

to prohibit doing business with the commercial and tourism

wings of the Cuban military. Doctors treating the American

student who was released from a North Korean prison

in a coma say he has suffered Otto Warmbier was freed on Tuesday

and is back home in Cincinnati. It's not clear how he

sustained brain damage. He was given a long prison sentence

in March last year for trying British security officials

they believe hackers in North Korea were behind the cyber attack that

crippled parts of The hackers are thought to have been

attempting to make money but did not predict the extent

to which the computer Here's our security

correspondent Gordon Corera. The cyber attack spread around

the world, with the NHS badly hit. Computers were locked,

with hackers demanding a ransom be paid for them to be

made usable again. Britain's National Cyber Security

Centre led the investigation and security sources have told

the BBC that the centre believes in North Korean-based hacking

group known as Lazarus The same group is believed to have

targeted Sony Pictures after it planned to release a film involving

the North Korean leader and was also thought to have been behind

the theft of more than $80 million from Bangladesh's

central bank last year. The ransomware last month did not

target Britain or the NHS specifically and may well have been

a money making scheme that got out of control, especially

since the hackers have not yet retrieved any of the ransom money

that's been paid into the accounts. The Labour MP Jo Cox is being

remembered across the country on the first anniversary

of her murder. The mother of two was killed

as she arrived for a constituency surgery in Birstall in West

Yorkshire. More than 110,000 events

are being held today and over the weekend as part

of The Great Get Together. More from me at 10am. Back to you,

Joanna. Catherine Downes has the sport.

We will start with the goal. Paul Casey is breathing down the neck of

Rickie Fowler. All of the world's top six players

struggled and ended up over par - but Casey says he loves the course,

and is just one shot off Wales have beaten Tonga in the first

Test of their summer tour. Wing Alex Cuthbert went over early

here and Wales later scored a penalty try before running

out 24-6 winners. Everton have made Jordan Pickford,

the most expensive British He's joined the club on a deal that

could be worth ?30 million. It was a big spending day

for Everton, who also paid over ?23 million for Ajax

captain, Davy Klaassen. And Britain's Jake Wightman knocked

over a second off his personal best, as he beat a high-quality field,

in the 1500 metres at the Oslo Diamond League

meeting last night. The 22-year-old Scot follows

in the footsteps of Seb Coe, Steve Ovett and Steve Cram who have

all won the race. He said he could not quite believe

that he had won a Diamond League! The outbreak of Ebola

in Sierra Leone during 2014 Pauline Cafferkey was one

of the British nurses who volunteered to travel

there during the epidemic But she caught the disease

herself and has had a long Now she's returned to visit children

orphaned by the disease, some of whom are living

in extreme poverty. Mario Cacciottolo reports

from Sierra Leone. Pauline Cafferkey

is back in Sierra Leone. She was last here in

the country's Ebola epidemic in It was when caring

for the sick and dying Now she has returned to this west

African country with the charity Street Child

to meet those whose lives were affected

by the It is lovely to meet one

of the survivors, she is 17, she has got so much ahead

of her, so much inspiration Pauline also visited

the site of the now demolished Ebola treatment

centre in Kerry Town This is where she became

infected with the A hospital is now being

built on the site. At times it seemed quite

sombre, certainly not a The only real happiness

was when the survivors The nursing staff would do

a sort of happy dance for The care that we were giving

to patients was just basic, basic care but that is what they really

needed at that time. The priority was to

keep them hydrated, in It is a place that has

not got good memories It is progress, it is good

for the community that it has been It was nice it was not as emotional

as I thought it would be because for me, without a doubt,

that is the place where I must've Severe travel restrictions

were enforced around Sierra Leone the last time

that Pauline was here. Now the country is Ebola

free and she travels halfway across it to meet Marianna,

an orphan that lives in the town The 12-year-old lost

both her parents and her uncle in And she and her seven

siblings are now being cared to be, a doctor, a nurse, a teacher,

what do you want to do? For the next part of her trip

Pauline travels deep into the lush countryside to a remote village

in the Port Loko district to meet They want to go to school

but they can't go to school because they

don't have anything. She has a baby and is also caring

for her three siblings after her mother died from Ebola

and her father left. I feel frustrated that the Western

world has moved on and the media has pulled out, most of the aid

agencies have pulled out. It is like it is almost

forgotten but it is not, there are people still living

through this and living with the We have a lot of families

and a lot of orphans. We have in our database,

we have over 1015 The effects of that is

that we now have lots of Most of them sleep

on the streets, most of them do menial jobs in order

to maintain a livelihood. And we have so many

children are assuming the household responsibility because you

have child-headed households. Houses that are run

by children themselves 4000 people died in Sierra

Leone because of Ebola. In the countryside around the town

of Lunsa, there are villages with many empty houses whose owners

died in their Although these buildings remain

usable, locals know what Despite Ebola leaving

her with a weak leg and sore joints, Pauline is to enter

Street Child's annual race, running ten kilometres in what is known

as the world's craziest marathon. Today, at the race,

the atmosphere was It was a very early start,

we were up at 4am. We were running through

the community of Makenia. And everyone was out, cheering us

along, the children were running It was probably the highlight

of the trip, I would say. After returning to Sierra Leone this

time, I do feel that I have a bit of a connection with the country which

I didn't really have last time. Last time, I was just

here, looking after patients and I'm left

with the intention that I was going to rest

and then come back again. It was really good that I did get

this opportunity to come back. I think lots of people

said that when big things happen in your life,

it does change you as a person. I don't really feel

that whatever has It certainly hasn't

changed my outlook I had a horrible virus that

with the help of the NHS, I got Since I was a wee girl, I always

wanted to be a nurse and come It is good to come back

here because this is the place I am not cutting all ties

with Sierra Leone by any means but I am going to close

the chapter on that I am not too sure what the future

is going to hold, I am pretty positive it is going

to be something good. I do not know what direction

to take it in yet. It is going to be

something positive. I am due something good

to happen in my life. Ebola survivor Pauline Cafferkey on

her return to Sierra Leone. On the 3rd of June,

under a fortnight ago, Ozzie Gandaa was working

as a bouncer in Borough Market, London, when he witnessed three

terrorists stabbing passersby and heading for the pub

where he was working. He was a hero that night, throwing

chairs and glasses at the attackers. Fast forward to this Tuesday night,

and he became involved in another He lives a stone's throw

from the block of flats, where several of his friends live.

Some are still unaccounted for. He's here with

Carniel Francis Levy, another local resident

near Grenfell Tower, and together they're helping

with the community aid effort there. Thank you both for coming in. Ozzie,

that's extraordinary. These are events that have shaken us all but

you have been so close to both? Yes, it's a lot to mentally taken. Too

many tragedies happening at one time. Just pulling together and

doing the best we can do for our community and seeing what we can do

to help out. You live very close to Grenfell Tower. How close? I can see

it from my garden. I could actually smell the fire. When you first know

about the fire? Probably around just after 11 o'clock. Then I got a phone

call from my younger brother saying there was a fire at Grenfell Tower.

Just cold friends to see if everybody was safe. To see what we

could do to help out. We initially went down there just to help out

victims that had left the building and to help evacuate the area as

well. This was the morning after? No, this was the night it happened.

You sort of saw... I saw the flames, I saw everything burning. Friends of

mine said they could hear people screaming from the blocks. It was

just... You have friends who live on the block who are still not

accounted for? We're not sure they are OK. I am hoping for the best.

Maybe they haven't been able to contact anybody. At the moment we

are preparing for the worst but hoping for the best. What is the

process as people try to find out if their loved ones are OK where they

might be? It's not easy, is it, trying to find out? Just having to

wait until the coroner says, this is the person that has passed away,

this is your friend, this is a family member. It is a very, very

hard situation. It is playing a waiting game on people's lives,

basically. This happened not long after Borough Market. Tell us where

you were when that was unfolding and what you did? I was basically right

there when the terrorists attacked. I saw them stab people, work

colleagues and friends. I initially ran away because I saw they had a

suicide vest on. But made the decision afterwards to return and

see what I could do for the local market staff and for customers, to

see if there was something that me and my other security members could

do to help. We ended up throwing chairs, bottles, whatever we could

find, to keep them at bay and stop them attacking anybody else, until

the police came. So yes. Your actions have been praised as heroic.

How do you feel about what you did? Happy that I done it. I wish I had

acted a little bit sooner. But at the same time, for most people the

instinct is to run. But I'm so happy I came back. I have had people thank

me saying that I personally saved their lives. I didn't feel anything

like that. It makes me feel really proud of myself to know that I was

capable of saving people's lives. You have them back to work? Has that

been? Yeah, I went back on Wednesday. I was extremely paranoid.

I didn't know if I really wanted to be in that situation. But I have got

a team there. I have got people that are basically family. I wanted to be

there for them as well, to show them that no matter what happens, we are

a family. We are Borough Market and we are going to support each other.

We're not going to let that stop us. You obviously resilient. You went

through that and then the Grenfell Tower fire happening so close to

where you are, that would knock anybody, coming that close to things

like that? I am mentally and very physically strong as well. I've got

a little boy. I have to stay focused. Yeah, it's hard. Some days

I feel it is a lot mentally. But my only other option is to get through

it. And yeah, the community that we are in, we have pulled together so

much for the immunity of Ladbroke Grove. People who didn't like each

other before, they've all just pulled together and done whatever

they can. If it is volunteering, bringing food or comforting people,

we have all gelled together. It has proved what we can actually do as a

community in severe situations, and what we can do as a team and a

community to unify us and help out. You are part of that effort as well

aren't you? Doing a big Cook of this weekend. Any support is good

support. There are probably a lot of people who don't know what they

should do. But just being there is support. There are loads of

different people going through loads of different emotions right now. For

me, just being there helps. Luckily, we have got a catering company, so

we are going to serve food to workers, victims, animal and that

needs it. Just an extra pair of hands. There is anger as well

because of what has happened. How do you feel the mood is? You know,

right now there are loads of stories, conspiracy theories of what

has happened. Something may not be right. But for me, that is not my

issue. My issue is to look after the people that our victims. And help

out after. Something may come of it, something may not. But right now, it

is not the point. It is just to support. Just like Ozzie said,

everybody is coming together. I just want more people to come, more

people to give and show how strong Londoners. I mean, compared to

everything that has happened, the support that has been happening from

the servicemen to the general public is amazing. There is still a lot

more to come. You know... Seen people, good together in the way

that they are, does it give you strength? Yeah, it does. Most

definitely. For both instances. Going back to Borough Market, I had

people from Manchester who had never been to Borough Market before, they

just want to come down to show their support in London and in Borough

Market, and for people to stick together. The same with what has

happened in Grenfell Tower. Just seen the community and seen the

messages I am seeing on Facebook, what people have been sending me,

what family members have been doing, what close friends have been doing,

there is so much. It makes me proud to be from the area as well. Proud

to be a part of it. The efforts of helping, the help that is required,

will go on long after this has gone out of the headlines. That's the

thing. I just want to make sure that any viewers watching understand that

it's good that you help out today and tomorrow, but there is so much

more that need to be done. Overnight, 3000 people have been

displaced. Not just Grenfell Tower. Lots around. Apparently at the

moment they are storing bodies in one state. People are being

evacuated. They have nowhere else to go. I have got friends staying at my

mum's house. Mum -- friends staying on coaches. We're going to be doing

another fundraising event. We have another thing in Fulham which we

will be doing as well by the Fulham library this Friday. There will be a

DJ. We will be hosting a free event, fundraiser. Whoever wants to come,

there are more than welcome. It will help the community. So much... It is

hard even thinking about those families, those people I have known

for years, they haven't got nothing. Possessions are nothing. It is not

about household possessions that I gone missing. They are just on the

streets. Their life. They have lost everything. We are going to be

talking a bit more about that with two people who lived in a flat and

lost everything. They weren't actually in the building on the

night. But like so many, they have lost everything. Thank you very much

for coming in. You are getting in touch on the interview with Hashem,

the brother of Mohammed who died in the fire. One text says an extremely

moving interview. My heart goes out to the family and the whole

committee. Denise e-mails, heartbreaking to hear from Mohammed

bus brother and friends. What a loss to this country. So sorry we didn't

keep them safe. Mohamed Salah is like a wonderful person, son,

brother and friend. People have been trying to help those affected by the

Grenfell Tower tragedy anywhere they can. Last night people gathered at a

charity event for those who lived in the tower. The grime artist Saskia,

who performed, joins me now. Why did you take part? I took part because

the government is not doing anything. I took part because the

people are supporting the people right now. And we have had enough of

this rubbish. That is why I took part. It wasn't nothing to do with

popularity or trying to milk a situation. It was genuinely trying

to raise some money and to do something for this people. Where is

the government right now? Please, can suddenly tell me where the

government is? What you want to sing the government doing? First and

foremost, I want to see the government do a fair investigation.

Somebody has to be held accountable. You cannot have an inferno where a

fireman came to the event last night, he told me over 200 bodies,

this is not in the media. This is mass murder. If the government isn't

doing something, Theresa May, you are a coward. You are hiding while

the people are dying. I just want to come in. Obviously the numbers that

have been discussed and numbers that some are talking about, but in terms

of the official number who have died at this stage, the numbers are much

lower and we do not know what the final death toll will be because it

is very difficult for the emergency services to properly get into that

building. That's fine and dandy. A fire man who was there, present, any

saw the bodies. He told me first-hand. This is no secondary

information. I just want to talk a bit more about the concert last

night. And people coming together. What is your sense of that level of

community support? That was one of the greatest, greatest feelings.

People from the tragedy came down to just take their mind off it. Be with

artists and be around a family unit. People just looking after each

other. There was so much love in that room. If Theresa May, Boris

Johnson would have witnessed that, they would have known what they are

not doing right now. Because right now it is the people looking after

the people. It is Power to the people.

That is what it is right now. Thank you very much for joining us.

Obviously lots and lots of ways, things are being done to raise money

and to give support to those who have lost so much in that terrible

tragedy. Coming up,... Revolutionary breast cancer drug

Kadcyla will continute to be We'll be talking to a breast

cancer patient who's been Let's get the latest weather update

with Sarah Keith Lucas. Thanks. It is a fresh start to the

day compared to recent days. Not quite as hot and muggy. Things will

warm up as we head through today. This is how things are looking in

Conwy in North Wales. Cloudy skies. Elsewhere we have got more sunshine.

The east coast of England. This is Norfolk. Plenty of blue sky. As we

move through today, things would be warming up. They will be spelt of

sunshine but fairly cloudy conditions across some parts of the

country, particularly the further north and west you are. A bit of

drizzly rain working its way northwards and eastwards as well. We

could see splashes of rain to the north-west of England. Certainly

west of Scotland as well. It is an East- West split across Scotland.

Rain in the West at times. East it is dryer. Things will brighten up in

Northern Ireland later in the day. We will see some sunshine break

through. Some sunshine to the east of the Pennines. Further south,

across England and Wales, things are looking to write with some sunshine

coming through. You do see that sunshine, you have high UV levels.

Also high levels of pollen. You will certainly noticed that. Into this

evening and overnight with will lose most of that wet weather for the

West of Scotland. It is dry across many parts of the country. Clear

skies, light breeze. And it will feel muggy and humid. Once again,

quite an uncomfortable night. For some, temperatures falling no lower

than 16 or 17 degrees. The temperature continues to rise into

the weekend. Further south across Europe, 44 degrees in southern

Spain. That heat and humidity pushing northwards across France

into the UK, where our temperatures could top 30 degrees or more.

Saturday, breezy conditions in the far north-west of Scotland for the

--. For the rest, lots of sunshine. Temperatures between 20 and 28

degrees. A warm day certainly. Things turn even hotter through

Sunday. Again there could be rain in the far north-west. We are likely to

see those temperatures at 30, 30 1 degrees. A small chance we could see

some thunderstorms later in the day. The heat holds on into Monday. Still

30 degrees. Ince will turn fresh on into Tuesday. A full weekly forecast

online. And Joanna Gosling, welcome back. As

hundreds are left homeless following the tower block fire there are fears

police may never identify all the victims. The first identified as

Mohammed Alhajali. We heard from his brother earlier.

Mohammed was crying and said "Please put me through to my mum."

Then he was praying and asking to be put through to his mum,

but we couldn't put him through to my mum.

Then he sent her a voice recording saying "Goodbye, Mum, I love you."

We will speak to two people who lived in the block and lost all

their belongings in the fire. The Government says it's prepared

to do whatever is necessary to ensure that high rise tower

blocks across the country are safe following the fire

at Grenfell Tower. There are 4000 of them in the

country. We will do whatever it takes, take the expert advice, do

whatever it takes, to make those buildings safe or make those people

safe, whatever it takes. We will continue to bring you the

latest developments. Also the breast cancer drug Kadcyla will continue to

be available to patients on the NHS in England. We will speak to a

campaigner with breast cancer. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. Safety checks are to be carried out

on cladding fixed to high rise blocks of flats

following the Grenfell Tower 17 people are known to have died -

six of them have been identified, but police are warning that they may

never be able to identify Many people remain unaccounted for,

as Andy Moore reports. The first victim of the fire

to be officially named is Mohammed Alhajali,

a Syrian refugee who came to Britain His brother was led to safety

by firefighters, but, in the chaos and confusion,

Mohammed got left behind. I thought they took

him outside with me! Some of those trapped

in the blaze did survive. We now know this man

is Elpidio Bonifacio, a partially blind

grandfather in his 70s. His family say he is in intensive

care, suffering from They have thanked the bravery

of the firefighters who risked Elpidio was finally rescued 11 hours

after the blaze started. There is anger in the community,

directed at almost anyone The London Mayor Sadiq Khan saw it

for himself when he went to visit. How many children died

and what are you going Police say they have now started

a criminal investigation. That's not to say there

was a crime committed, but they will investigate

to establish if there's any The list of the dead

and missing grows all the time. Police have voiced the hope

that the final number of casualties They admit that some victims may

never be identified. The leader of the local council said

they did think about installing sprinkler system in Grenfell Tower

when it was renovated last year, but he said there was

no collective view The Communities Secretary,

Sajid Javid, is due to visit A littler earlier, he said he wanted

to reassure people living in similar This is being done

in a matter of days. I think those people need

to be given reassurance The first point is obviously

to identify these There are about 4000 high-rise

buildings in the country but not all of them have been

re-cladded but also, let's not just make the assumption it's

all about cladding. As soon as we have more information

from the experts, which we expect either later today

or certainly over the weekend, then that is what I think should be used

to do these emergency inspections. A second soldier has died

after being wounded in an incident involving a tank at an army firing

range in Pembrokeshire. He was serving with

the Royal Tank Regiment. Two other soldiers were injured

at Castlemartin Ranges on Wednesday. The Archbishop of Canterbury

will speak at a service of hope at Southwark Cathedral today,

in honour of first-responders, families and survivors

of the London Bridge attack. Eight people were killed when three

attackers drove a van into pedestrians on London Bridge,

and then launched a knife attack at Borough Market just

under two weeks ago. President Trump is expected

to announce a change in policy towards Cuba during a visit to Miami

today, tightening trade and travel restrictions that had been relaxed

by President Obama. Americans will still be allowed

to travel to the communist island, but mainly as part

of organised groups. Mr Trump is also expected

to prohibit doing business with the commercial and tourism

wings of the Cuban military. British security officials

they believe hackers in North Korea were behind the cyber attack that

crippled parts of It led to delays in treatment and

operations for patients. It is thought the hackers did not realise

how far the virus would spread. The Labour MP Jo Cox is being

remembered across the country on the first anniversary

of her murder. The mother of two was killed

as she arrived for a constituency surgery in Birstall in West

Yorkshire. More than 110,000 events

are being held today and over the weekend as part

of The Great Get Together. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10:30am. Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning - All the usual ways of getting in

touch apply. Here's some sport now

with Katherine Downes. The US Open, golf's

second major of the year Many of the worlds top players have

struggled in their opening round. The early leader is America's

Rickie Fowler who shot That put him clear

of the chasing pack. That includes Englishmen Tommy

Fleetwood who is two shots behind. But the pick of the British

challengers is Paul Casey, he is just one shot off the lead

after day one at Erin Hills. It's bittersweet, I love watching

great rounds of golf like that, especially at something like the

U.S. Open. Such fantastical. Then you think about have half as good

around as Rickie I would have been happy, to start with an eagle, have

benign conditions and chase him a little bit feels great. Really happy

to get off to a wonderful start to what we know will be a tough week as

it pans out. Wales have beaten Tonga in the first

Test of their summer tour. Wing Alex Cuthbert went over early

here and Wales later scored a penalty try before running

out 24-6 winners. They have never previously won at

Eden Park, losing all three of their tests at New Zealand and losing out

to France in the 2011 World Cup. Owen Farrell's injury has

overshadowed the build-up to the British and Irish Lions' biggest

match of the tour so far against the MoU we all Blacks. He might miss the

first test against the all Blacks a week on Saturday and Johnny Sexton

is likely to fill in. Katy Gordon delays in New Zealand.

Two wins and two defeat the Alliance, and now they face the

Maori all Blacks, really in need of a win, not just to give them

momentum ahead of the first test but also for a much-needed boost in

morale. It will not be easy against the Maori all Blacks, traditionally

seen as the fourth test, which is ominous for the Lions, who have

already found the going tough. The site is packed with experience, they

have nine All Blacks in the team but the backline is really eye-catching.

The likes of Damian McKenzie is included. The Lions will be without

fly-half Owen Farrell, he was named on the bench but has a thigh injury

and faces a race against time to be fit for the first test. That puts

pressure on Johnny Sexton, he will wear the number ten shirt. A big

game for Sean O'Brien, he has a chance to nail down the number seven

shirt with tour captain Sam Warburton on the bench. All the

ingredients for a really exciting game and for the Lions, it could

define their tour. It looks lovely over there.

Everton have made Jordan Pickford the most expensive British

He's joined the club on a deal that could be worth ?30 million.

He joins from Sunderland, who were relegated from the Premier League

last season. He will play in the under 21 European Championship for

England this summer, yet to make his senior international debut.

It was a big spending day for Everton, who also paid

over ?23 million for Ajax captain, Davy Klaassen.

Fans will hope for a better season next season! Back to you, Joanna.

We have had an update on those injured in the tower block fire.

Mark Lowen has that update. We have just heard from the NHS updated

figures on those in hospital, 24 people are being treated, 12 of them

are in a critical condition. They are spread across four hospitals,

King's College Hospital, Chelsea and Westminster, the Royal free and St

Mary 's. 24 still in hospital, 12 in a critical state, that is in

addition to the 17 people who are known who have died at Grenfell

Tower, but the fear is there are still dozens of people missing, the

fears are that the number of known fatalities could rise above 60.

Police are inside trying to get higher up in the building but it is

extremely unstable, they are using sniffer dogs to try to get to the

higher floors, using dental records, DNA samples, fingerprints, but

really the true number, the true scale of this tragedy, may never

really be known. Obviously you are describing the painstaking work

going on. It is easy to see looking at that building why it is so

difficult to get into every flat and workouts what the number who have

died there is. We have heard from people who lived there who are

deeply frustrated, we just spoke to a grime artist who was at a concert

there last night talking about a death toll is much higher, saying he

has spoken to firefighters who had seen lots of bodies. There is so

much frustration. It is hard to understand when you are emotionally

caught up in something why the answers are not coming more quickly.

I wandered down the road to the Memorial Hall that she will have

seen pictures of the last couple of days, people writing messages on the

makeshift people are gathered there who either had friends and families

in sight Groenefeld but also in surrounding towers. There was a

mixture of anger, frustration, the slowness of the response in terms of

people being able to get inside buildings, also a huge amount of

anger that the fire regulations seem to have been inadequate, the fear

was raised by the residents association years ago and in the

neighbouring towers there is a huge fear of what might happen to them.

One girl I spoke to has lived in a neighbouring tower for 11 years on

the 20th floor, she says that also has one staircase, no sprinklers, no

central alarm, she was in tears talking to me and said everybody

around here now feels they are in a potential death trap. It is not just

the many people inside Grenfell Tower but many people in high-rise

tower was right across the country that are fearing they could be next.

Thank you. For those that managed to escape

the fire in Grenfell Tower, most of them have lost

everything they own. From clothes to furniture

to photographs. We've been talking to people who've

lost everything in a horrific fire, to find out what life

is like after. We haven't been told anything,

apart from sending us They haven't told us

in the long term what is going So I'm just literally

living day to day, yeah. Whatever people have donated,

I've been trying to pick my sizes. The other day, I picked

some tops and jeans, but when I went home,

when I went to my friend's place, it didn't fit, so today, again,

I have started again, afresh, checked on what I could pick

and maybe what could fit. So it's just a gamble,

yeah, a gamble. And I don't know what the future

is any more, either. I just want assurance that,

you know, they are going to take care of us, and they are going

to make sure that each person at least has

temporary accommodation, or, you know, organising for more

permanent accommodation So we need just assurance that

things are going to be OK, you know, somehow,

because we've lost everything. Lilian there, who lived on the tenth

floor of the tower block, isn't alone in saying there has been

little input from the authorities. And Prime Minister Teresa May has

also been criticised for not speaking to residents

during her visit yesterday. We spoke to the Royal Borough

of Kensington and Chelsea Council last night, and they said they have

given help to all residents of Grenfell Tower who have got

in contact with them. We have put up in hotel

accommodation. We have made sure they have all their meals pay for on

our account. Officers from the housing department have been

visiting all of those affected households giving them cash to make

sure they can get on with the very basics of life. Telling them what

they can expect over the coming days and weeks, and potentially months.

Offering them all the advice that has been made available, whether it

is grief counselling, we have got social workers there. We can to the

residents of Grenfell Tower who have made contact with the council so

far. We're trying to understand what

their plan is. We effectively break it down into three phrases. --

faces. There is the immediate now. So far I think we have managed to

find hotel rooms close enough within the borough.

We have booked all of those rooms at least until Tuesday.

Of course, we have gone to hotels who have other bookings, you know,

so we will have to be juggling these hotel rooms.

The next stage we need to do is to find as soon as possible

suitable temporary accommodation, proper, you know, flats or houses

for these families to move into and out of the hotels.

And again, that is a challenge in itself.

London has a huge temporary accommodation and homelessness

challenge, which this borough and all others have been working

very hard to try to sort out but it is really difficult.

And some of that temporary accommodation is likely

to be in other boroughs as well as this one.

What we are committed to doing is making sure that every household

from Grenfell Tower can find a permanent new home

Is it fair that for those people who have lost everything it could take

up to two years to be permanently rehoused? I'm afraid it could take,

for those final difficult families to find accommodation, it could be

that long. We will find them suitable proper homes in the

meantime, and give them all the assistance we can to make sure those

new homes, those temporary homes, have all the white goods, all the

furnishings, all the things that make it a home.

Let's talk to two residents who lived on the 21st

floor of Grenfell Tower - Lee Stewart and his

Thank you for coming in. Amazingly you weren't in the building, which

possibly saved your lives. Your flat is on the 21st floor. Yes. I was a

wafer four days for work. I was staying in a Hotel in Crawley. As it

was Lee's birthday on Wednesday, he came over to stay with me on Tuesday

night in the hotel. I'm just so grateful that he did. We don't know

what would have happened otherwise. When did you first know about the

fire? So my phone started ringing about 3:30am. It woke us up. Didn't

think anything of it is to begin with. Then we got up. It was our

landlord that was calling us. I called him back in the sand of

distressed and said he was so grateful to hear our voices. He

asked where we were. I said we were at a hotel. He said, Lee, Grenfell

Tower is on fire. I was asking him some questions about it. We just

didn't know anything. Julian started to look at up on his phone. I saw

his face drop in horror. The entire building had been completely ablaze.

Presumably at that point you knew that your flat was not going to

be... We had hoped for a little while that may be they would put out

the fire before it reached the entirety of the building. We thought

they would get everybody out of the building. Maybe not all flats would

be completely destroyed. But as the night went on and we saw the police

-- the blaze continuing into the morning, we lost all hopes around

that and we pretty much knew we had lost our home and everything in

there. We just hoped people could get out. You had only been there for

less than two Weeks? Yes. Had you had much contact with the

neighbours? Only a little bit. When we were moving in, we had a lot of

belongings. We had to spend a lot of time in the hallway moving things up

and down the left. We ran into a few people. They were very friendly.

They told us a little bit about the area. It seemed like a really

tight-knit community. But we just didn't have very much time to get to

know anyone properly. They would have been in your minds as you were

looking at your home, knowing that some of those people were

potentially trapped? My last morning, the Tuesday morning on my

way to work, I took the lift down at about five to nine. There were about

four or five kids on their way to the school just outside the

building. They have just been on my mind ever since. There were so many

kids in that building. And we just have no idea about any of them. We

don't know who they were, we don't know if they're OK. We don't know

how many will be affected. It plays on your mind constantly. You have

lost everything. Have you had much help from the council? What help of

you had in terms of trying to find somewhere else to live? Nothing. We

reported ourselves as safe on the day, on the 14th, by calling the

helpline was provided. I give my details. They said they would be in

touch. They said there was nothing they could say at that point in time

because the building was still burning. Since then, we haven't

heard anything. We have been getting all of our news from the news. And

all of our support from friends, families, some strangers that have

been in touch. But from the council, the local authority, nothing.

Strangers have been in touch? Yes. It ranges from on the morning we had

to buy some essentials, because we only had our clothes that we were

wearing. Silly little things like I was in one of the shops and we have

to explain to the cashier, can we keep the hang-outs? She said, no. We

explained what happened. She just said, take all the hang-outs. She

gave us some extra. Even something like that almost brought me to

tears. Two of our friends said up some crowdfunding pages for us. The

response has been immense. Overwhelming. From friends, families

and strangers, who just heard her story, read the page and donated. It

is really, really touching. Have you been to the building since the fire?

We went yesterday and some are great for the first time. We went for the

purpose of volunteering to help with the donations. We spent a couple of

hours there just helping out in any way we could. Before we went round

to do that, we just stood and looked at the building. We couldn't believe

it. It is just really surreal. You just feel like you want to be able

to go inside to see if anything, by any chance survived. If anything

remained. Just what it looks like in your home. But there is no

indication. You could just black. It breaks my heart, the entire building

may collapse. What will happen to the surrounding area? There is

absolutely no hope. Let's talk to Helen White-Knight,

whose flat was burned down Helen, thank you for joining us.

Obviously seen this will have brought things back. What did you

learn from your experience? What was your experience? It's heartbreaking

to hear people who have also been where we were in 2011. It brings it

all back. It sounds very familiar, having no contact with the

authorities. Our council put us in a travel Lodge. But when you have

nothing to prove who you are, it is very difficult. You can't process

what has happened and deal with the admin that comes with that. I

remember that feeling of being hopeless and not knowing what to do.

They doesn't seem to be any process to deal with major incidents like

this in London. You have written a letter, I know, because you are

extending your hand and those of others to those who need help and

support of this time. Would you mind reading us that letter? To the

residents of Grenfell Tower, let's start by saying we don't know what

you're going through but we remember the fear and the powerlessness of

our own experiences and the lasting effects after the world moved on and

left us still dealing with it. We lost everything we owned the fire,

but most of us were lucky that we and our loved ones escaped with our

lives. Many of you did not. And for that, we are forever sorry. Whilst

you begin to process this horrific tragedy, we wanted to reach out and

offer you some advice that we learned the hard way in an effort to

show solidarity and do our bid to help you cope with what has

happened. Like you, we know what it is like to lose every single hard

and belonging. Expensive things like laptops and CV that Spike TVs,

essential things like clothes and furniture, and sentimental things

like photos and letters, that final one is the hardest one to come to

terms with. In a fire you also lose every piece of paper proving who you

are. How do you access your bank account when you do not have a bank

card or ID? Our advice is to get the practicalities sorted as soon as

possible, give yourself space to agree. You will be asked to list

your possessions. Mentally walk through the flat. Try and remember

everything you had and write it down sure you are not short-changed when

replacing things. It seems trivial now but it will help in the long

run. You're probably still in shock. Getting on with these kind of things

can be a good distraction and can help with your insurance claim. What

got us through those desperate times was the love and support of people

around us, family, friends, colleagues, neighbours and the local

councils. Find someone to help you through and keep you strong when you

are vulnerable. All of us last our belongings, one of us lost a loved

one. We believe life will return to some sort of normality. Don't worry

if you had not had an instant emotional reaction. It will come.

Our hearts go out to all of you. Cry, shed, let it out, be strong. We

support you. -- shed. Incredibly thoughtful,

Helen. Just picking up on what you said about, don't worry if you have

not had an instant emotional response, it will come. Why did you

say that? I think primarily seeing interviews with people who had

managed to escape, but the shock really does affect you. And that

goes on for weeks. You go up and down. It is like a roller-coaster of

emotions. Sometimes you really do feel empty. I remember standing

outside the front of our building looking at what was going on and

thinking none of it was real. It took awhile for that to kick in.

Even now, years later, it's still kind of comes in waves and you still

process it. Even after everyone else has forgotten about happened, you

need to talk about it, you need to think about it, because you will

have triggers that will bring it all back to. Lee and Julian, does that

resonate? Completely. Sometimes you feel fine, relatively normal.

Sometimes you are on the verge of tears are in tears. You're

completely void. You just can't process it. We have had so much

support from friends and family and everyone else, it is helping of us

to deal with it. You're standing there, you're doing something. It

reminds you, it was this, it was that. Helen says, a sentimental

thing, it hurts when you have lost memories.

Giles Peaker is a solicitor who specialises in housing problems.

People will need emotional support and support on every level, but

practical support. What is the first thing someone can do when they have

lost their home, have lost everything? The first thing for the

people from Grenfell Tower is that Kensington and Chelsea will owe them

a home, they had to find them accommodation. It might be emergency

in the very short, but from there they need to find them temporary

accommodation, eventually permanent accommodation. This is an absolute

duty on Kensington and Chelsea, they can't avoid it. It will hopefully be

in the area. There has been a commitment from the housing minister

that people will be rehoused in the area. We are trying to find out

exactly what level of detail that means in terms of whether that is

temporary accommodation and then permanent accommodation later on,

but clearly when people have been to such a devastating event the last

thing they need is to also be moved some distance away from friends,

family, support structure. When you say there is an absolute duty on the

council to give temporary and then permanent accommodation, you have

not been given it? You have accommodation through your employer.

What response did you get from the council? I think Lee mentioned

earlier, although we have reported ourselves as safe and these are our

details and this is where we lived, the flat we were out, we have had no

response even though on the phone the incident response caller said we

will be in touch once things have settled down, we have had no

response. Fortunately, like I said, my employers put us up in a hotel

for now. We have no end of Richard support of accommodation from

friends and family all over the place, which has been overwhelmingly

grateful. Thank you and we really wish you all the best. Thank you

very much for joining us. And thank you to Helen and to you as well,

thank you. Get in touch and all the usual ways if you want to join the

conversation this morning if you are affected by any of the issues we are

talking about. Also coming up... Revolutionary breast cancer drug

Kadcyla will continue to be Shortly we'll be talking to a breast

cancer patient who's been We will speak to a Labour MP about

the Government's handing of the Grenfell Tower tragedy and what more

could and should be done. That's Joan Annita McVeigh for a

news summary. -- lets join Annita McVeigh. Police

warned they may never be able to identify some of those who died in

the fire at Grenfell Tower in west London. 17 bodies have been found so

far but the number of is expected to rise significantly. Prime Minister

Theresa May has ordered a full public inquiry into the fire.

Lucy Masoud is a firefighter and trade union official at the Fire

She described some of what her colleagues witnessed.

The conversations I've had, you know, one colleague said

he was going in there and literally having to choose who to save

and who to leave because, you know, you only have two hands and you can

My colleagues who went in, took people out, went in again,

You know, the red watch at Chelsea were meant to finish work

They didn't get back to the station until 5pm.

They would have stayed longer at the incident

You know, again, that is just an absolute tribute to the brave men

and women who attended this incident but yeah, you know, the scenes

that they would have encountered in the early hours of Tuesday

morning, it is absolutely unimaginable.

The Government has said it will do whatever is necessary following the

Grenfell Tower fire to make sure that high-rise blocks of flats are

safe. The flames were seen to spread quickly through cladding fixed to

the outside of the structure. The Government says all similar

buildings will be inspected and action taken if required.

A second soldier has died after being wounded in an incident

involving a tank at an army firing range in Pembrokeshire.

He was serving with the Royal Tank Regiment.

Two other soldiers were injured at Castlemartin Ranges on Wednesday.

The Archbishop of Canterbury will speak at a service of hope

at Southwark Cathedral today, in honour of first-responders,

families and survivors of the London Bridge attack.

Eight people were killed when three attackers drove a van

into pedestrians on London Bridge, and then launched a knife attack

at Borough Market just under two weeks ago.

The Chancellor, Philip Hammond, says the priority in the forthcoming

Brexit talk should be to protect jobs and growth. He was speaking in

Luxembourg before a meeting of EU finance ministers.

As we go into that negotiation, my clear view,

and I believe the view of

the majority of people in Britain, is that we should prioritise

protecting jobs, protecting economic growth and protecting

prosperity as we enter those negotiations and take them forward.

Security officials believe North Korean attackers were behind the

cyber attack that had-macro the NHS of Usman. It is thought the hackers

had not realised how widely the virus, which rocked systems until

money was paid, would spread. The attack led to delays in operations

and treatment for patients. Join me on Bbc Newsroom Live at

11am. Here's some sport now

with Katherine Downes. Wales have beaten Tonga in the first

Test of their summer tour. Wing Alex Cuthbert went over early

here and Wales later scored a penalty try before running

out 24-6 winners. They have never previously won at

Eden Park, losing all three of their tests at New Zealand and losing out

to France in the 2011 World Cup. And the All Blacks' warm up

for the first Lions test a week tomorrow is going pretty well -

they're thrashing Samoa A reminder of just what

a test the Lions face. England's Paul Casey

is breathing down the neck of the first round leader,

American Rickie Fowler Casey says he loves the course,

and is just one shot off And Britain's Jake Wightman knocked

over a second off his personal best, as he beat a high-quality field,

in the 1500 metres at the, Oslo Diamond League

meeting last night. The 22-year-old Scot follows

in the footsteps of Seb Coe, Steve Ovett and Steve Cram who have

all won the race. He is pretty chuffed, he said he

never dreams he would win a Diamond League race, but he has.

Thank you. We've talked a lot

on the programme about the breast It's been called revolutionary,

due to its ability to significantly extend the lives of patients

suffering from a particularly aggressive form of breast

cancer, known as HER-2. The drug has been available

on the Cancer Drugs Fund since 2014, but late last year, Nice,

the body responsible for deciding which treatments

are cost-effective for the NHS, published an initial decision that

Kadcyla will no longer be At an estimated ?90,000 per year,

it was considered to be Campaigners petitioned

against the decision, appearing on this programme,

and they've had a breakthrough. Earlier this year, the drug was made

available to NHS patients in Scotland, and yesterday,

Simon Stevens - the head of the NHS in England - said that the initial

decision not to fund Kadcyla will be overturned, and that it

will continute to be available It is expected that Wales and

Northern Ireland will follow suit. During our investigation

earlier this year, we spoke to Gill Smith, who had

Stage 4 breast cancer. It had already metastasised

at the time it was discovered, to my liver, my bones,

my lungs and my lymph nodes, which means that it is stage four

and inoperable and incurable. The two drugs that I was

on and am still on are They are effective for about 18

months but they had to be kicked And what was that like,

the chemotherapy? Losing my hair after two weeks

was just the least part of it. That was really not

a problem at all. So you had been advised that

Kadcyla would be available for you when you needed it and it

now looks as though So that is devastating because it

means that the amount of good quality time that I thought

I would have, and my family expected to have with me,

has effectively been cut It is, it is pretty grim,

being told that you only probably have about two years,

give or take, to live, and then the first eight months

of that has been severely compromised by the chemotherapy

and now, if I don't have Kadcyla and the Herceptin and Matuzamab stop

working, chances are that means My daughter keeps saying how unfair

she thinks it is and it does feel rather like that because it was such

a fantastic drug. The drugs that are available have

been proved so hugely that it is quite possible to live

with cancer, rather than feel that So you can have a very good quality

of life for quite a long time. To have half of that taken

away would be awful. My oncologist now says

that she is seeing about nine months of effectiveness of Kadcyla,

really good quality of life And although that may not

sound like very long, if you have only got two years,

nine months is a significant My older daughter, she is 25,

and I probably won't My younger daughter still

lives at home with us. She is just beginning to get

established in life. That is what I worry

about most, really, how Let's talk to Dr Anne Rigg,

consultant oncologist Also joining us, Baroness Delyth

Morgan, Chief Executive Gill Smith is a breast

cancer patient and campaigner, who is due

to receive Kadcyla and was planning to move to Scotland to get

access to the drug. Also Bonnie Fox, another

breast cancer patient Thank you all very much for joining

us. We will start with you, Gill, everything you say is so pertinent

and easy to understand, when you talk about it is hard enough having

breast cancer and dealing with that and then when you think a drug could

make things better and you might not get it, how you cope with that. How

do you feel now you have had this news? Absolutely delighted, it is a

great burden that has lifted off our shoulders. We do have to not worry

about that any more. The drugs I am on at the moment are continuing to

hold, they are still working, at some point they will stop and then I

know I will be able to go on to Kadcyla and have another few months

or even longer. Quite a lot of people live significantly longer on

this drug. It is very good news indeed. You were thinking you might

end up having to go to Scotland to get it? NHS Scotland had approved it

so I was happy to hear that because it would have been technically

possible to move to Scotland and get it, move all of my cancer treatment

up to Edinburgh or somewhere. Bonnie, you have been involved in

the campaign to get Kadcyla properly available on the NHS? How much of a

relief is it? Enormous. A huge relief. It feels like a huge weight

off our shoulders to know it is in place and available to us for

whenever we need it. I can't tell you how great that is. It feels like

such a big victory as well. Yeah, a huge weight off our shoulders. Bring

is up to date, we spoke to you on the programme before, the same as

with Gill, what is your situation, where are you at and what difference

could Kadcyla make? Fortunately I am still stable on my current drug,

Herceptin, it will be two years next month that I have been on them.

Still feeling really well and stable. I have another scan in a few

months so we will see then. Kadcyla would be my next drug, so I don't

know when I will need it but I know it will be my next drug. So just

knowing it is there and has been approved, you feel like you can

almost breathe a little knowing that the next step is in place for you.

Yeah, a huge relief. You're a consultant oncologist, explain more

about what Kadcyla does and why it is the drug that kicks in at a later

stage for patients? Bonnie and Gill have a particular

subtype of breast cancer known as HER-2, that is because if you looked

at the cancer cells they have a chemical on the surface called

HER-2. What is so amazing about this particular drug is that the

Herceptin molecule, which is part of Kadcyla, travels around the

bloodstream and will look for that HER-2 chemical. You don't have it on

pretty much all adult normal tissues but you do on the breast cancer

cells, it is a targeted treatment that will try to find it. What is

particularly cunning about Kadcyla is not only do you have the hat --

have the Herceptin but it has a chemotherapy drug linked onto it.

The Herceptin delivers the chemotherapy just to the cells that

needed. A very special drug. In the oncology community we are hugely

relieved about this decision. How much extra quality life Panis give?

The official estimates are lower than what people are finding.

The results in the clinical trials show there was a six-month increase

in how long the patients live. All of us who practice breast cancer

have many patients living well beyond that, such as Bonnie and

Jill. Bonnie bus experience of two years is what I see with a number of

women I am looking after. These are women who are not lying in a

hospital bed feeling dreadful. These are women who are out there getting

on with their lives, working, being mothers, having hobbies, being

normal functioning members of society. That is what is so

critical. That is what is so important about Kadcyla. It enables

you to carry on and be normal. That is what we so desperately want. We

want to carry on with our lives as normally as we can for as long as

possible. Kadcyla enables you to do that. You can carry on being a mum,

you can carry on the -- working. It has low side effects. That is what

is so critical about the drug. That is why it is so valuable to us.

?90,000 a year as the cost of this drug. That was looked at originally

and it was decided it was too much. A deal was struck. We don't know

what the cost is. The estimates are probably around ?50,000 a year.

Whenever life prolonging treatment I looked at in terms of the cost, it

just feels very uncomfortable, when you weighed against real people and

the impact on their lives? It does. For the NHS it is absolutely vital

for all NHS patients that we see a really good deal struck for cancer

patients by NHS England,, and that the companies come to the table with

Kadcyla. This campaign to get Kadcyla available, the petitioning,

the patient to have spoken out so bravely, the clinicians who have

thought about the evidence and how to make the arguments, it has been

really hard. We can't carry on fighting around these issues, drug

by drug. We need to have a better system where these new innovative

treatments can be made available much quickly -- much more quickly on

the NHS, so the deals Comey. More effectively, so the clinicians can

have the tools to do their job and we can help people to live longer,

without symptoms, and contribute to society. So what I want to see is a

much better system that takes into account the contribution the Pharma

industry make to this country. They are a vital part of our life

sciences industry. We need the job to succeed. We need the government

and the NHS to put them together, to get the industry and the NHS, to sit

down with industry and come up with a good deal for a patients so we

don't have to fight like this, one drug at a time, to get the

innovative treatments the NHS really can afford if deals are done in the

right way. Are you worried about another drug? We are. There are a

lot of innovations for cancer patients down the track which should

offer great hope. For example, patients who have HER-2 positive

breast cancer, the first two treatments, the first one is still

available on the Cancer Drugs Fund. That is coming up for assessment.

They are being looked at. Other real questions around that? There will be

questions about that. There are questions about important prostate

cancer medicines. This is a really, really good piece of news today, and

it is really good for 1200 breast cancer patient who could be needing

this drug, Kadcyla, in the next time period. But we have to get the