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They all helped and we called everyone, and they called the police

and ambulance. I said, why did you do that, why are you trying to kill

people? And he wasn't responding, except to say, kill me. Members of

the public had been speaking about how they held the man who had jumped

out of the fight ban on the ground as they waited for police to arrive,

police said they were at the scene in 10 minutes. A ?48 man has been

arrested, taken to hospital as a precaution. Home Secretary Amber

Rudd says this is being treated as a terrorist incident. Counterterrorism

police officers are investigating. This was an attack on London and all

Londoners. We should all stand together against extremists whatever

their calls. Good morning, do join us live in

France free Park this morning, counter terrorism officers

investigating an incident involving a vehicle being driven into a crowd

of people on the streets of London. This happened just after the police

cordoned behind me, behind us, is most -- Muslim welfare house, on

other side of the road is the mosque that is 1 of the biggest in the

country, Finsbury Park mosque and people had been praying inside

there, people gathered in local cafes, this is Ramadan, they were

breaking the Ramadan fast at the end of Muslim prayers. Just outside

Muslim welfare house a man had actually collapsed in the street and

was being attended to by some of those who had seen what happened.

This was a self-contained incident initially, it seemed he collapsed

from a heart attack, then a fan drove at speed along the road,

mounted the pavement and drove into people helping that man who had

collapsed, police say he has died and at least 10 others have been

injured as a result of that fan driving into the crowd. We spoke to

people who describe how they saw the man get out of the van, they told

him to the ground, they waited for police to come and arrest him. There

were initial reports that police took some time to arrive but the

least say they were there within 10 minutes of getting the initial call.

The Muslim Council of Britain has said there has been an increase in

Islam phobia in recent months and it's calling for more security

around mosques. Let's bring you right up with all of the latest

developments. The Seven Sisters Road

in North London just after midnight. This footage filmed by an eyewitness

was recorded moments after a van mounted the pavement

and struck several pedestrians. The streets had been filled

with worshippers who just left evening prayers at the Finsbury Park

mosque and the nearby He looked straight,

he looked straight like it He basically drove on the pavement,

coming straight towards all the Muslims, and as he was coming

to them, he hit all of them. Within hours, the Muslim Council

of Britain claimed the van was Police say the driver,

a 48-year-old man, was found by members of the public and handed

over to officers to be arrested. He has since been taken

to hospital as a precaution. And I saw a large crowd

of people on the pavement. I learned after that a van

that was standing by the traffic lights was the van that mowed

the people down. Several ambulances were on the scene

soon afterwards with trauma teams Theresa May says police are treating

this as a potential terrorist The local MP and Labour leader

Jeremy Corbyn said he'd been in touch with Islington Council

and local mosques in the area. This morning the scene

remained sealed off as counterterrorism

officers for the third investigate a vehicle driven

into people on London streets Theresa May -- Minister Michael will

be chairing an emergency committee meeting of Cobra. Police have been

bringing us up-to-date. The attack unfolded whilst the man was

receiving 1st aid and sadly that man has died. Any positive link between

his death and the attack will form part of the investigation. It is too

early -- too early to say if his death was the result of this attack.

Our thoughts are absolutely with all of those affected by the incident at

Seven Sisters Road and their family and friends and the wider community.

No matter what the motivation for this attack proves to be we are

keeping an open mind. This is being treated as a terrorist attack and

the counterterrorism command is investigating. This was an attack on

London and all Londoners and we should all stand together against

extremists whatever the cause. From 21 minutes past midnight this

morning police received a number of calls to Seven Sisters Road

following a van having collided with pedestrians. Officers were in the

immediate vicinity at the time, actually as the attack unfolded and

they responded instantly. Additional officers were on the scene within 10

minutes. 1 man as I said, was pronounced dead at the scene, 8

others are in hospital, two more treated at the scene. All the

victims were from the Muslim community. I'd like to praise the

police officers who immediately responded he gave life-saving

treatment at the scene but also very much those members of the public who

assisted before and after this incident. Also at the scene,

detained by members of that community was the man suspected of

being the driver during this attack. He has been arrested on suspicion of

attempted murder. I would like to thank those people who helped police

detained the man and worked with officers to calmly and quickly get

him into our custody. There is strength in the circumstances is

commendable. This investigation is ongoing and we are working fast to

gain full details of how and why it took place. At this early stage of

the investigation no other suspects have been identified and reported to

police and there were no reports of any people having suffered any knife

injuries. The van used has been examined by specialist officers but

nothing that would cause a risk to the public was found within it.

Extra policing resources have deployed across London in order to

reassure communities especially those observing Ramadan at this very

sensitive time. I would urge everyone to remain camp and remain

vigilant. I asked the public with any information about this incident

or anything that causes them concern suspicion to call police on a weird

hundred 789 321. -- calm. Obviously this is a furry early

stage of the investigation however as and when I can make or

information available I will. This has been an incredibly challenging

time for London and the emergency services are stretched. Nevertheless

we will all do absolutely everything we can with our partners to protect

Londoners and our city. Now is a time once again for London to stand

together to face those who seek to divide us. What we are seeing and

what witnesses report to us there was nobody else in the fan and it

appears this time this attack attacked alone, that is not to say

we are not investigating the full circumstances of how he came to be

where he was but at this point in time there was nobody else in the

van. Let me tell you a bit more about where we are. Behind me you

can see the police vans, a line of officers, just behind the camera, a

huge number of people here, a lot of reporters reporting on this latest

terror incident in London. Also a lot of local people gathering,

shocked to wake to the news this morning and people who have simply

been up all night having witnessed what was happening, not able to go

to bed. Just still here, talking about what they saw and experienced.

We've heard from several people who gave chase to the attacker as he

tried to leave the scene having jumped out of the van, he was

actually knocked to the ground by those people who gave chase and held

until police arrived, police said they were here within 10 minutes

although initial reports from people at the scene but that it felt like

longer but police said they were here very quickly. As with other

attacks, there was a sense initially of utter confusion, when they were

actually tending to a man who had collapsed in the street and as

locals help that person who was on the ground, a van deliberately drove

into them. That obviously lead to immense confusion as to what exactly

was happening but very quickly, they realised, jumped out of the way, 10

people injured and taken to hospital and police say it is the man who was

being tended to in the street who died. It is unclear whether he died

as the result of apparently having had a heart attack or whether it was

injuries sustained by the van. Jeremy Corbyn is the local MP, he

has said he is completely shocked by what happened, he has been speaking

to some of those working at the Muslim welfare house. The Home

Secretary Amber Rudd has described her shock at what happened.

Unfortunately we have again woken up to another terrible incident

in London where a man has taken hold of a van and driven it into a group

There was one fatal fatality that we know about and a number

of casualties, and the police are treating it as a

We know that the police were on hand immediately,

we know that they have treated it immediately as a suspected terrorist

event, and that is the normal procedure and we will see

whether they confirm that later this morning.

It was treated immediately as a suspected terrorist attack.

We must allow the police to deal with the facts and they will make

sure that they make those facts available as soon as they can.

Our priority must be to support the people who have been victims

of this and to make sure the investigation is done with all

We are concerned about everybody, Londoners have been hit

with a series of attacks and have actually been nothing

We will always make sure that everybody's protected.

We have a Places Of Worship fund, which we announced last summer,

which is there to protect places of worship like mosques.

We will make sure that we do all we can to reduce

I am joined by our Home Affairs Correspondent,

Another attack involving a van being driven into people on the streets of

London. It's extraordinary, think about it, 3 times this year,

vehicles driven into pedestrians in London, as part of what are

apparently deliberate attacks. Slight difference this time, it

seems to have been a deliberate attack on the Muslim community

rather than an attack on the wider population of London. Either in

Westminster or having a night out in London Bridge. A couple of things

worth saying at this stage, firstly, as you were picking up earlier on,

the man who has died, it seems as if he was already very, very ill. He

seems to have been suffering some sort of heart attack and as far as I

can tell, police are really unclear at this stage whether he was hit by

the van or in fact his death was something that was going to happen

anyway. That said, of course, 10 people injured, 8 of them very

badly, ending up in hospital, the other thing worth saying,

preliminary investigations owing on into the 40 age-old man who appears

to have been driving this vehicle. At this stage it looks as if there

may be some mental health issues, clearly anybody who deliberately

targets a group of Muslims is going to have some kind of extremist bent

what it looks as if he's not as at work, someone that is a known

extremist at this stage it's very, very early, but someone known to be

suffering from mental health difficulties. That would be

something that causes controversy because I think the Muslim community

often says when we are targeted at someone with mental health of the

Gulbis, when other communities are targeted its a lone wolf. At this

stage, it seems to be for this investigation may be going. He was

taken to hospital, was he injured? That's unclear, the fact he was

taken to hospital with suggest there may be some physical injuries on a

clearly, think about what happened, this band driven up the bustling,

turning left and running into this group of worshippers between the two

prays during Ramadan, he was grabbed by the community, it's quite likely

he has either sustained injuries from crashing the vehicle or from

being restrained by the community but I think that's going to come out

over the hours and days ahead. Certainly, at stage, police,

contrary to what some eyewitnesses seem to suggest, think he was the

only person there and was apparently the driver of the vehicle, obviously

the man who has been arrested so there are legal constraints but

that's what seems to have happened. It happened by Finsbury Park mosque,

well-known, 1 of the largest in the country, how close was it, does it

look like it was sort of specifically because of the

location? Well, for two years there has been

two mosques here. Finsbury Park Mosque was an infamous mosque at one

stage, but has become a fairly standard mosque. There is also

Muslim welfare House, that's closer to the incident, but this place

where this happened is a place where people from both mosques tend to go

between the two prayers during Ramadan. It is like an open space

off the main road. There is a cafe nearby, but it's a place where

people bring camping chairs and sit around and chat and share food

because of course that's the time when the Muslim community can eat

during the time of Ramadan. So, these were people who had gathered

in a little quiet side street to share food, and to discuss and to be

contemplative when somebody has taken ill and they are treating that

person and then out of the blue, this hired van from Wales comes

ploughing into the group of them and all hell breaks loose. Talking to

eyewitnesses, the first police officers did arrive within minutes

and were helping to treat the man who had suffered from this apparent

heart attack, but it did a lot of time for them, ambulances and more

police support to come in. Partly that was because of the large

numbers of people that were around: Did he say anything? Well, again,

we're reliant on eyewitnesses, but eyewitnesses are saying that he was

restrained. At one point somebody had him in a headlock and they were

holding him on the ground and they say that the man that they were

holding was saying, "Kill me now. Kill me now. My job is duvenlt"

That's quite second-hand at the moment and we need wait until we get

further down the line, but it does seem that he was suggesting that he

had done what hell come to do and he was prepared to die. That was the

implication. We were not present and this has been said to us. This is

being investigated by counter terrorism officers? Yes, that's

automatic. If anyone is believed to have attacked for an extremist

reason and clearly, targeting a Muslim community would be an

extremist thing then the counter-terrorism police steps in.

If you think about the murder of Jo Cox, it was dealt with by

counter-terrorism police and it went through the counter-terrorism

protocol within the courts and I think you can assume at this stage

unless something changes it will be the counter-terrorism that deals

with this incident. Daniel, I would like to bring in two young men who

were were there in the aftermath. Would you mind just introducing

yourself and telling us where you were. I have been living in this

area for all my life near enough. I have been coming to this mosque for

as long as I can remember. I have been coming here this Ramadan. Oon

the last ten days is something in which the Muslims like to frequent

the mosque much more because it's longer night prayers and I was here.

I broke my fast here. After I broke my fast, I prayed a little. I went

to the shop and when I come back, I've met with incident anarchy, you

know. Just talk us through what happened. Did you see the van?

Obviously, I saw the van, but I didn't see the collision, but I saw

the van and I saw there were people on the floor, the women and the men,

screaming and shouting, pandemonium, the assailant was on the floor. The

imam was telling people to deal with him properly and deal with him

justly as Muslims should do. I saw the police apprehend him after as

well and the community is in a state of, they are terrified, traumatised,

in a state of shock especially what happened in Grenfell Tower, you

know, some of the people in this area, they personally, I know of

some persons who have gone and helped volunteers at Grenfell Tower

and I have known some personally who have family that have passed away in

Grenfell Tower. Stay with us. Want to introduce you. Can you introduce

yourself as well. I live in Walthamstow. What happened today is

a reaction. This is a reaction to what happened to the London Bridge

attack. A similar attack, the guy in a van. Did you actually see

happened? Were you here last night? We came out of the prayers and there

was loads of Muslims on the street and the man ploughed into them and

the driver was eventually dragged out of the car and pinned to the

floor and people were hitting him and punching him and what happened

was the imam came out of the mosque and said, "Don't hit him. Pin him

down and call the police." As Muslims today, we're victimised and

we're labelled terrorists when this isn't the case. Muslims don't feel

safe walking the streets of Britain and it shouldn't have to be this

way. Were you in the group of people around the man when he was taken out

of the van? Yes. What happened? Was he trying to stay in the van? No, he

was trying to, it was a struggle to get him out. Eventually he was

getting out. He was pinned down to the floor and people were beating

him up and they would do because of the actions he has done. Once he was

Palestinianed do you think the police came, but the response took

too long. I spoke to police on the other side of the bridge and I asked

them why did it take so lock, in the London Bridge incident it took them

six minutes and with Lee Rigby, it took them four minutes. The

Metropolitan Police have got to answer why it took them so long. I

have got footage of a woman on the floor covered in blood. The

ambulance took 40 minutes. I asked a policeman and he said I can't

disclose any information. It was reported as a driver has crashed and

therefore it wasn't priority. When did people think it was something

other than didn'tal collision? When we saw the violence. He was building

up speed. It was a reaction to what happened in London Bridge. It was a

premeditated attack. He picked Finsbury Park. It is a Muslim area.

It is highly populated. He knew what time prayers was finishing and he

came out in the van and he specifically ran the Muslims over.

It's not fair on Muslims. No one feels safe, we can't go to the

mosque without looking behind our backs. We have to look behind our

backs to practise our religion. We're living in fear. We shouldn't

have to live like this. Did he say anything? 123450 When he was

arrested and put in the van he screamed, "I'll do it again." He was

in the van... Out of his van? No, into the police van. As police were

leading him into the van and as he was getting led into the van, he

said I'll do it again. And did you hear hill say anything prior to

that? I didn't hear anything happen. I was just kind of bewildered at the

situation. I didn't know what was happening. I was in a state of

confusion. I could see people getting CPR on the floor. The Muslim

community from this attack that has happened especially in Finsbury Park

is a close-knit community. Muslims are deeply saddened by what's

happened andits just sad because the response the Government gave. After

there, I have gone home and I'm watching the news and they are

saying it's a major incident. If this was maybe an individual from an

ethnic minority, a Muslim, somebody who has got a Muslim name, he has

done this to another place of worship, it would be treated as a

terrorist attack. The Prime Minister says it has been treated as a

terrorism attack. And counter-terrorism officers are

investigating. You don't believe it's being treated properly as a

terrorist attack. The problem I'm having is the response. The problem

I'm having is the way that extremism is dealt with. There is different

speck tums from different people. If an individual from a Muslim

background commits terrorism, Belmarsh, all these prisons, but if

somebody juz like the Jo Cox, the way she was killed, that was a huge

tragedy. How can somebody from a far-right extremism kill a minister

of Parliament? That's major. If that was to be a Muslim, it would be a

different reaction. The way the Government is dealing with extremism

is incorrect. You want there to be a one minute's silence. There should

be. Not only for this, but for the time who died in the tower. Enough

is not being done and a one minute's silence should be done to raise

awareness. The Government are asking and the media what security measures

can be taking place, not only for news limbs, and the truth of the

matter is nothing can be done. Violence will be on the streets

until I day we lie. Let me just say, there will abminute's silence at 11

o'clock. Every reaction has an action. The London mayor said it was

an attack on all our shared values. How important is it that all

communities come together now? Of course, it is. To show unity. There

was a lady from a white background and she said, "Leave our Muslim

communities alone." She is not even Muslim. We are always stereotyped.

It's not fair. We're victimised. Sisters and mothers and brothers are

afraid to leave the house. Why should we have to live out of fear

to practise our religion? Thank you very much. Police have

been saying there is a lot of anger and there have been reports from the

people who were there that the police were slow to respond. The

police say they were there quickly. Initially the incident was reported

as effectively a road accident because there was confusion when the

van initially went off the road, but as we were hearing from our

eyewitnesses the van was speeding up and so it became clear that it was

an incident that did not seem to be an accident. It was deliberate and

there were reinforcements sent to the scene. The person who died in

the attack was someone who was being looked after by a crowd of people

who had gathered. They were in the streets after breaking the Ramadan

fast and they saw a man who was struggling on the floor. It seemed

he had a heart attack and they were helping him and he is the person who

has died. At least ten others have been injured. Well, I'm joined by

two more guests. Would you mind just introducing yourself. Hussain. Were

you there last night? Did you see what happened? I heard the noise and

stuff up there. And then I looked back and I see the van and I thought

an explosion would follow. I ran all the way down to the corner. This is

a Muslim area and three different mosques within a very close area.

The Islamic centre where the media say Islamic terrorists and I think

that was backlash and innocent people paid the price for those back

lashes and most people that I spoke, when I left the area, they keep

saying he was proud that he did this. Some people said he was

smiling. That's the people who were holding him and involved with him.

Did you see him? No, I was far away when they were holding him. That's

when I actually see the man. Could you introduce yourself? Abdul. Where

were you? I was travelling from Central London to North London

around 12.30. And I saw just going past after a huge amount of police

vans and ambulances past me, a few seconds later I came to the scene. I

didn't know what was happening. I parked my car. I was just curious

and I went and I realised something is not right. I saw at least two

bodies on the ground, motionless, I couldn't tell if they were still

alive or dead. Their clothes were bloodied. I asked people what's

happening? One man said to me, do you see that van behind us? And

there were a few other bodies on the ground. I couldn't see, but people

told me there were eight bodies and beyond that, he pointed to a white

van saying a man was driving that and he just ploughed through and

yes, the police are looking to investigate what happened but a lot

of people I spoke to, eyewitnesses, they were adamant, no doubt, what

happened was deliberate. That's what he said, even the BBC

guy said, he said clearly, the guy said to him, I want to kill more

Muslims and this was he holds, this ideology that kind of terrorists

hauled and he wants is to take as many Muslims as he can but there

will be more casualties than we are counting tonight. Luckily there were

only 8 few casualties, people were chatting around, some people

chatting, this is the people that suffer in the area. I mean, again, I

spoke, I came a few seconds after the incident I did not see it

myself, I was there just after it happened, police cordons were not

just put up just yet, it took a while but CPR was being

administrated, it was quite busy, nobody knew what was happening, it

took a while for people to work out, this does not look good. We heard

the Imam came out of the mosque and told people to remain can, it seems

that some... He was pulled out of the van and people were angry...

Eyewitnesses saw the man, he was apprehended, put into a van, more

than 1 person said the guy was almost a jubilant, he raised his

hands in triumph, he didn't, you know, look sorry, that's what people

were telling me on the ground. People are really shocked, people

walking back, trying to find out, women were holding their mouths,

gasping, realising what might have happened and people cannot believe

this has actually happened. The Muslim Council of Britain has spoken

of rising Islam phobia and the feelings around mosques,

particularly around Ramadan. The women said we can't go because we

are... The tensions are high, people don't know the difference between

Muslims, they sabotaged us, the whole community, they are scared.

Most people out at midnight are the men, they think maybe they are

strong and can defend themselves, I don't think a lot of women should

pray in this area and feel safe. Men like me, praying is a spiritual

thing, between you and God, when you stand there you want peace and

quiet, it doesn't matter if it's a mosque or a Christian church or any

for else, nobody deserves to terrorise, to feel unsafe within the

community where you hold your own fasting and peace between you and

God and being quiet. Some people choose to commit crime as they did

London Bridge and in Manchester and I think it's time for us to change

and said this is the criminals, we should point the criminals, it's not

too sabotaged communities, we should not say their name and sabotaged the

community because they hold the same name and some people will pay the

price by saying, you did it. It's like me saying he was white, he was

Christian, it's nothing to do with that, these people aren't my

doctors, my neighbours, they did nothing, he was the 1 who chose to

commit crime and he killed somebody's dad, mother and

grandfather as they did before. They did, both sides, they want a clash

of civilisations and they want separation and they want destruction

everywhere, not just in the UK. What do you think about the reaction

there has been from politicians and the community in terms of trying to

make sure people come together rather than get driven apart? A lot

of us weren't paying attention to sound bites, politicians coming out

strongly as they do with others suspected terrorist attacks or

incidents, Muslim eyewitnesses I spoke to in the early hours of

yesterday were all adamant this was a deliberate attack, they all came

out with strong words and they want to similar strong words swiftly and

quickly from politicians and other believers. What do you think about

the reaction has been? From politicians? Well, it's their own

game, with the politicians but I think they should separate the

criminality part, doesn't matter if they are Islamic terrorists or

nationalists or racist, or they are a far right extremists, they choose

to commit crime and we should finger point and persecute them and for

ever they are, link them and stop them, that's what politicians should

do. Let us, and let us say, strong and stable... They should say, they

are criminals, they are Muslims, they could be anyone, don't divide

the nation, there are some people out there, don't see these people,

all these faces the media feeding them all this hate and they think

all Muslims are of 2 something, we are not, we are doctors, we aren't

like normal families, the person who died is a grandfather. He went to

spiritual things between him and his God and no 1 should feel unsafe, I'm

not saying this is calling for Muslims, this is us as a society and

we have problems we need to solve and tell people being radicalised,

please, don't be so. Thank you very much. We are broadcasting live from

them is pre- Park in North London. There has been another terrorist and

involving a van being driven into a crowd of people on the streets of

London. -- broadcasting live from Finsbury Park. Let's bring you up to

date. The Seven Sisters Road

in North London just after midnight. This footage filmed by an eyewitness

was recorded moments after a van mounted the pavement

and struck several pedestrians. The streets had been filled

with worshippers who just left evening prayers at the Finsbury Park

mosque and the nearby He looked straight,

he looked straight like it He basically drove on the pavement,

coming straight towards all the Muslims, and as he was coming

to them, he hit all of them. Within hours, the Muslim Council

of Britain claimed the van was Police say the driver,

a 48-year-old man, was found by members of the public and handed

over to officers to be arrested. He has since been taken

to hospital as a precaution. And I saw a large crowd

of people on the pavement. I learned after that a van

that was standing by the traffic lights was the van that mowed

the people down. Several ambulances were on the scene

soon afterwards with trauma teams Theresa May says police are treating

this as a potential terrorist The local MP and Labour leader

Jeremy Corbyn said he'd been in touch with Islington Council

and local mosques in the area. This morning the scene

remained sealed off as counterterrorism

officers for the third investigate a vehicle driven

into people on London streets Theresa May is currently chairing an

emergency meeting of the Cobra committee, after that add about 10

AM she will make a statement and we will bring that to you live. The

London Mayor Siddiqui can spoke about the importance of community is

coming together. My message to Londoners and those across the

country is to be cam and vigilant, there will be an increased visible

police presence in London today, around mosques and places of

worship. Just to go on that increased visibility, how much more

can we expect? Each borough commander across London, there are

32 boroughs, they will make sure there is additional uniformed

officers around mosques, some of that is people being brought back

from leave to make sure we are people that are keeping people safe,

towards the end of Ramadan, more and more worshippers go to the mosques

in the evenings, what we don't want to do is let anyone think they can't

go about their lives because they feel vulnerable or scared. With me

now is Chris Phillips, former head of counterterrorism security. We

obviously have a huge police presence, this is being investigated

by counterterrorism police, what does that mean specifically about

how it will be investigated? It means for sure this is being treated

as a terrorism act, it means there will be an enormous amount of

forensic work going on at the moment. And of course, what they

will need to know 1st and foremost, who is this person, who is his

contacts, then they are looking at who he has been in contact with,

whether there is anyone else involved because like all terrorist

attacks, we need to make sure there is no 1 out that is a thread. There

were initial reports perhaps there had been other people in the vehicle

but those reports seem to have gone away. The fact that there no 1 else

the vehicle doesn't mean there's no 1 else involved, but could be other

people linked in with this person in some way, that means they have some

involvement. We need to find out who hired the van, or did they get that

from, what money did they use and see if this is actually, a history

of this person being involved in kind of right-wing extremism,

perhaps, to see his motives as to how and why he did this. There is of

course someone in custody which hasn't always been the case in

counterterrorism investigations. It's always good when you get the

person involved because you can move very quickly then to find out who

they are, DNA samples, fingerprints will tell police who this person is

and they can work on that and make sure you can close down anyone else

who might be involved. This can be a lone actor, most likely is, but

there could the other people linked to him who have similar feelings.

The police have to go in with an open mind and explore every option,

obviously. In terms of the level of resources, this is another incident

involving a vehicle on the streets of London, counterterrorism police

investigating the 3rd attack in as many months. What does that mean for

police resources? I can tell you for that means, they are already

stretched, I think the police announced hundreds of officers were

involved in each inquiry, those officers don't come from nowhere,

they have to be taken off the duties and officers dealing with this now

will have been perhaps previously doing other work such as following

other people who are also a terrorist threat. This is about

having enough people in times of emergency and crisis because some of

these guys will have been on for a long time, for a lot of days and

they can't last for ever, it's incredible. We are asking a lot of

our police force to not only stop attacks from happening but deal with

the fallout when something happens. In terms of bolstering that very

special expertise how does that happen? As you say, expertise,

doesn't come quickly and when you are trying to get people into the

world of counterterrorism and understand how things operate,

detectives, as an example, there is a massive shortage in The Met, only

a few weeks ago then it came out and said they needed more and they would

take them direct off the street, effectively. A don't become

detectives overnight, these things take time and I really do hope that

in government there is a recognition that not only the police but the

Fire Brigade needy enough people to keep us safe and to make sure they

can do what all these incidents, these crises that we are having

across the country. There's been some frustration amongst people who

were here as it was unfolding that the police response wasn't quick

enough. The police say they sent responds immediately but initially

the reports were of a road traffic incident and then as soon as it

became clear it was something other than that, reinforcements were sent.

I think the police respond to for a get, it depends, we don't know what

a phone call said, probably said a vehicle has crashed, there are

hundreds of vehicle crashes every day and every night in London and

unfortunately, when you look at the resources that the police have

actually got on the street, they can't deal with these accidents. We

don't actually centre they don't send officers out to these accidents

because they simply cannot deal with the sheer quantity. I can tell you

know as soon as they had even an inkling this was a terrorist attack

they would have been on to it like a flash and got here and at the end of

the day members of the public did a great job but the police came in and

sorted it out as well. We shouldn't be, I think there is always a desire

to look at some form of criticism on the police and I think we need to

just bear in mind the typical job they have to do. As you say it's

worth noting that the public came together here and they actually

stopped the man as he tried to leave the scene. Yes, it must be noted

here that actually, I should, Isis, this is absolutely made for them,

it's exactly what they want to happen, they want communities to

fight each other, and whoever this person is, if that's been his

desire, then he's effectively working for Isis because that's what

they want and we as normal people, further they are Muslims, Christians

or any other religion or no religion, need to make sure we

understand that's what they want and we must really come together rather

than pushing ourselves apart because if we push ourselves apart we will

see more of these types of incident. Thank you. A little bit earlier this

morning the counterterrorism police officer in charge of the

investigation gave an update on the latest.

Sadly, Londoners are waking up to the news of another dreadful

incident in the capital that has left a number of people

The attack unfolded whilst a man was already receiving first aid

from the public at the scene, and sadly that man has died.

Any causative link between his death and the attack will form part

It is too early to say that his death was as

Our thoughts are absolutely with all of those affected by the incident

at Seven Sisters Road, and their family, friends,

No matter what the motivation for this attack proves to be,

This is being treated as a terrorist attack,

and the counterterrorism command is investigating.

This was an attack on London, and all Londoners, and we should all

stand together against extremists, whatever their cause.

From 00:21am this morning, police received a number of calls

to Seven Sisters Road following a van having

Officers were in the immediate vicinity at the time,

actually as the attack unfolded, and they responded instantly.

Additional officers were on scene within ten minutes.

One man, as I said, was pronounced dead at the scene.

Eight others are in hospital, and two more were treated at the scene.

All the victims were from the Muslim community.

I'd like to praise the police officers who immediately responded,

who gave life-saving treatment at the scene.

But also very much those members of the public who assisted before

Also at the scene, detained by members of that community,

was the man suspected of being the driver

He has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder.

I would like to thank those people who helped police in detaining

the man and worked with officers to calmly and quickly

Their restraint in the circumstances is commendable.

This investigation is ongoing and we are working fast to know

the full details of how and why it took place.

At this early stage in the investigation,

no other suspects have been identified or reported to police.

And there were no reports of any people having

The van used has been examined by specialist officers but nothing

that would cause a risk to the public was found within it.

Extra policing resources have been deployed across London

to reassure communities, especially those observing Ramadan

I would urge everyone to remain calm and remain vigilant.

I ask the public with any information about this incident

or anything that causes them concern or suspicion to call

Obviously this is a very early stage of the investigation.

However, as and when I can make more information available, I will.

This has been an incredibly challenging time for

London and the emergency services are stretched.

Nevertheless, we will all do absolutely everything we can

with our partners to protect Londoners and our city.

Now is the time once again for London to stand together to face

From what we are seeing, there was nobody else in the van and it

appears at this time this attacker attacked alone. That's not to say

that we are not investigating the full circumstances of how he came to

be where he was. And at this point in time there was nobody else in the

van. With me now is Abdul. Tell me where

you were when everything started to happen? I was walking past that road

where the incident did happen and I saw a sight that I usually see every

night, I saw people eating and drinking. I waved at them. I went

into here, about 100 yards after, two or three minutes after, I heard

the incident happen. I rushed back to see horrific scenes. Police and

emergency services, a couple of them came, most of the area was

congregated by worshippers who were speculate that one of their family

members were involved. The area was hectic. Most of the emergency

services that was there, was trying to resuscitate a man who was in a

ritical condition. It was very, very weird, very bizarre scenes. How many

people were there? All together? Yes. More people came. A lot of

people, it was like a chain reaction, more people heard about

it, more people came out, came out, came out, the area was engulfed by

people trying to see exactly and make sense of what happened. It

overwhelmed the emergency services, but they quickly got a hand of it.

Initially people thought it was some sort of a road traffic accident? It

unnerved a lot of people. A lot of people came to check out what it

was. The scenes were very horrific. Did you see the driver of the van? I

did, indeed. What was he doing? What was happening with him? Well, I

didn't see him being apprehended by the police. I saw him in his face

and he looked indifferent. He looked like he didn't really care what he

did. If it was something he regretted, he would have showed it

by his face. There was no sign of regret. There is speculation this

might be a terrorist attack. This is 100% a terrorist attack. All the

evidence shows it was a terrorist attack. He was in a bus lane which

he had no right to be in, he had a hired van. He said things like,

"Kill me. I've done my job. ." People were trying to hold him down.

People were asking him why did he do it? He has given weird answers. All

of these things have been said by people who were there. Some said he

didn't speak. The people I spoke to, I went to the people that I did see

and they said exactly that's what he said. So I didn't speak to any light

har lottance. He told me it is 100% a racially motivated attack. It is

100% a hate crime. You saw some of those injured? This is before the

emergency services blocked off the area. We saw people on the floor and

things like this. We saw prior to them create ago barricade, we saw

people, people are walking over bodies, so on and so forth. The vans

that were behind us have moved so we can see clearly down. The police

vans are further douvenlt just explain because you know this area

well. That's the mosque. You see that. That's next to the station.

That's the mosque. Where the incident happened is 20 to 30 meters

right past there. That's by the Muslim Welfare House? 20 or 30

meters away. It was so busy because Muslims were at night prayers and

breaking the fast? The thing was because in the last ten days, it is

a period where people pray like a second round. So it's 12 o'clock to

1am is the time. It's the buffer period between the two. People go

out and get food and some back and that's when it happened. That's when

the incident happened. What do you think about the reaction there has

been in terms of the political reaction. The Prime Minister came

out quickly and said this appears to be a terrorism incident and

counter-terrorism police are investigating. Sadiq Khan... That's

what they say. Even the way the news tabloids are reporting this, they

are saying, "It maybe terrorists." It shows it is 100% a terrorist

attack. The Daily Mail blurred out the person's face. The newspapers,

vehicle cold leuds. The words they use. It goes to show. This is not

like, this is something we see all the time. However, the way they

portray it, vehicle cold leuds. It makes it sound like it's a road

accident. A lot of people thought it was a road accident because of

reading newspapers like this. What's the best thing to be done in terms

of making sure communities come together after this? The thing is

the only people that actually benefit from things like this are

far-right extremist groups like Isis. Now they have incentives to

radicalise this. They can say you are law abiding citizens, you pay

your taxes, you are still being targeted. The only way you will be

secure is if you become militant and that's open, that's path ways to

becoming radicalised. A lot of people that's what they are scared

of. We don't want to see someone getting involved in this, but things

like that, they are pushed towards that agenda. Things like this can't

be ignored. When you say people are scared of this happening? I've lived

here my whole life. I've never seen an atrocity like this ever. It only

benefits radical groups, radical groups. Do you mean people coming

along and trying to radicalise them? That's the after effect of something

like this. We have to stay close-knit as a community. We have

to stick together. Things like this drives a wedge into the community

and it allows far-right groups to radicalise people. It gives them an

incentive. The person is clearly, I guarantee is probably, he belongs to

Britain First or EDL, what he was saying... We know nothing about

that. He will be investigated. The evidence that we do know and it's

most deaf litly. I spoke to some people and it's 100% a hate crime.

100% a hate crime. There is no speculation about that. What needs

to be done to reassure the community after this? A lot of people, as we

saw, are out, feeling vulnerable. Do they need more security around

mosques? When it's coming from the Islamic side, they say even a hint

of radicalisation the authorities are quick to nip that in the bud.

However, far-right groups have, it's accepted by the broader society, a

lot of people don't condone this and because of that people feel the need

that they get radicalised. The only way that you can potentially be safe

is if you crackdown all sides of the spectrum and make sure that any

radicalisation from any side is dealt with immediately and dealt

with effectively. Thank you very much. Thank you for

joining us. If you are just joining us let me bring you right up-to-date

with the latest. We are in Finsbury Park, North London, broadcasting

live after another terrorist incident involving a week being

driven to people on the streets at speed. We are expecting to hear from

the Prime Minister, Theresa May, shortly. She has been chairing an

emergency Cobra committee meeting and she is expected to address the

media after 10am. The London mayor, Sadiq Khan, has spoken of the

importance of communities coming together after this attack. All the

very latest is coming up in a few minutes.

We've off to a very warm start particularly so across England and

Wales where the temperature is 26 Celsius. Fresher in Belfast and also

Stornoway. That's because we have a weather front which is producing

rain at the moment. The rain will fizzle as we go throughout day, but

it is a weather front introducing fresher conditions behind it. A lot

of sunshine. The highest temperature somewhere in the South East around

33 Celsius. As temperatures rise it could spark off thundery showers.

Across parts of eastern and central England and Southern Scotland and

northern England and Northern Ireland, but they are showers so

they will be hit and miss. As we head through the evening and

overnight, the showers will fade. There will be a lot of dry weather

around. A bit more cloud too and another sultry night across England

and Wales. Fresher across the far north. That leads us into tomorrow.

Again, lower temperatures by a good ten Celsius in eastern areas. A lot

of sunshine. Some showers in the west and here the highest

temperatures. Hello. It's 10am. I'm Joanna

Gosling. We are broadcasting live from Finsbury in North London where

in the early hours of this morning a van mounted a pavement and drove

into a crowd of people. One man is dead. At least ten people are

injured. The van travelling at speed hit a crowd as they helped an

elderly man who had been collapsed on the Seven Sisters Road. He has

died. The incident happened

at 20 past midnight, by the Muslim Welfare House

on Seven Sisters road, which is round the corner

from the well known Finsbury Park mosque, and which also

houses another mosque. Many of the victims are believed

to have just left evening prayers there after breaking

the Ramadan fast. A 48-year-old man has been arrested

for attempted murder at the scene. He's been taken to hospital

but will be questioned Members of the public spoke of how

they held him to the ground Driver was eventually

pulled out of the car, pinned to the floor and people

were hitting him and punching him, but they would do because they were

angry with his actions. And then what happened was the imman

actually came out of the mosque Pin him down, call the police,

which is the right thing to do. The Home secretary says

this is being treated as a terrorism incident -

Counter-terror police are on the scene and the Prime Minister,

Theresa May, will chair a meeting of the emergency Cobra

committee later. This is being treated

as a terrorist attack. And we should already

stand against extremists. Good morning and welcome

back to Finsbury Park - another community left dealing

with the aftermath Last night a van was driven at speed

into a group of worshippers leaving evening prayers at Finsbury Park

Mosque. They were giving first aid to a man

who had collapsed in the street. The man died, and ten

people were injured- police say they were all members

of the Muslim community. Police say the man who died was the

man who was being looked after underground. -- who was being looked

after on the ground. The incident is being treated

as a terrorist attack. The driver tried to escape but was

stopped by people at the scene. They have reported he said

"I want to kill muslims". A forty-eight year-old man has been

arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and is currently

being treated in hospital. Theresa May is currently chairing

a meeting of the government's emergency COBRA committee; she's

expected to make Let's bring you up-to-date with all

the developments. The Seven Sisters Road

in North London just after midnight. This footage filmed by an eyewitness

was recorded moments after a van mounted the pavement

and struck several pedestrians. The streets had been filled

with worshippers who just left evening prayers at the Finsbury Park

mosque and the nearby He looked straight,

he looked straight like it He basically drove on the pavement,

coming straight towards all the Muslims, and as he was coming

to them, he hit all of them. Within hours, the Muslim Council

of Britain claimed the van was Police say the driver,

a 48-year-old man, was found by members of the public and handed

over to officers to be arrested. He has since been taken

to hospital as a precaution. And I saw a large crowd

of people on the pavement. I learned after that a van

that was standing by the traffic lights was the van that mowed

the people down. Several ambulances were on the scene

soon afterwards with trauma teams Theresa May says police are treating

this as a potential terrorist The local MP and Labour leader

Jeremy Corbyn said he'd been in touch with Islington Council

and local mosques in the area. This morning the scene

remained sealed off as counterterrorism

officers for the third investigate a vehicle driven

into people on London streets With me now is a representative of

the Muslim Council of Great Britain. People are worried, scared, these

were ordinary individuals walking back from warship, this is what

happened to them. What is really angered some of these people and

many people across the country, they have been talking about a rise in

hate crime against Muslims over a period of time, it has happened

again and again, there was a bomb against Finsbury Park mosque, the

murder of the Muslim individual, a terror attack a couple of years ago,

attack after attack against Muslims and it feels like this has not being

taken seriously and muslin communities are worried. Why did

happen in other mosques across the country and that's why there is

positive news, the Mayor of London talks about the fact there will be

extra police on the streets to reassure people, the Prime Minister

talked about a Cobra meeting to deal with this in a serious way and let's

hope that means this is taken seriously, finally. With extra

security around mosques make any difference and should that happen?

That's a good question, 1 element of reassurance, people need to safe,

feel this won't happen in hundreds of mosques across the country, 1

would have thought, it's about reassurance but also the fact if

there is that presents it hopefully might deter people from going ahead

and doing these things in the short term but we don't know. Communities

need to be reassured but there is a longer term issue, the fact that

Baroness Warsi talked about the fact, Islam phobia has become

socially acceptable to talk about, we've had major newspapers in this

country spreading hate, and newspaper talked about how less

Islam is the answer, more than half the population in the UK thinking

Islam as a threat to people in the UK, 30% of young people thinking

Muslims are taking over the country, it's not seen as a problem that

needs to be dealt with, of course people are going to get worried that

no 1 is taking it seriously. We hope this will be taken seriously,

Muslims are not going to be treated in any 2nd-class way and we've seen

the reaction has been very good, we've seen this attack treated like

any other terror attack and we hope the precursors are dealt with. I was

speaking to a former counterterrorism head earlier and he

said this act is effectively an act on behalf of pious, I was talking to

a young man Abdul who says he is worried about it being used as a

call to arms, effectively. -- on behalf of Islamic State. People from

the far right, people who call themselves Muslim who want to divide

us, it's up to us as a society to say no to terror, enough is enough

and this will not happen on our watch, we will not let us as be

divided, we will stand up as Britons and not allow intolerance to spread

and NBC and tolerance we will stand up against it, hate is unacceptable

for their it's had against Muslims are western society, aid is not

something that we should accept in our society. You spoke previously

about their having been other incidents, do you feel tension is

had been escalating? It crime incidents have been rising, whether

it's the Metropolitan lose, whether its third-party organisations,

whether it's the Mayor of London Siddikur can. Crimes against Muslims

have increased significantly in the last few weeks particularly, that is

a reality the government is aware of but what we need is action, not just

words, but we need hate crime against Muslims to beat tackled.

Basically there was a man who came out of his van, to do a lot of harm

to people, he came past my side, I tackled him down to the ground, with

the help of other people, we managed to... Get into the ground. What was

he saying? He was running, saying I going to throw more people, pulling

punches with his hand, when he was on the ground I asked, why did you

do that, innocent people and he goes... I want to kill Muslims. I

want to kill Muslims? And kill me. He said I am not going to kill you,

I wouldn't do that, and he didn't answer. I thought, was it by

imagination, I was just, within a second, people on the floor. Did it

feel like you are being targeted? Deliberately, 100%, basically, the

way he was driving on the corner of it, because when we were on the

floor with the old man, we were trying to give him CPR... Explain,

you had come out of the mosque... Basically, where it happened, there

is coffee, me and by friends were meeting there, we saw this man on

the floor, I said let's go and see him first before we have a coffee.

This was completely separate. We were helping him, he collapsed on

the floor. A little crowd of people. Some people were saying maybe he

thought there was a mosque, people came out, he saw the crowd, that's

why he turned on the corner... But I don't know, I somehow managed to

escape... Can I ask you one more question, we've heard very as

reports there were three people in this van... I could only see one

person, out from the firm, he was a big man, very strong, big man, very

strong. That's why there was other people trying to get him hold, when

I tackled him, we put him on the ground until the police came and

went thank God, the police came, there was still some emotion with

the guys all over because they were sad because there was a man trying

to, people give him CPR, he already was on the ground and then the van

made it worse. Can I ask you this question, do you feel safe on the

street? I don't know, I'm not sure to be honest with you, if we all

come together we can be safe. We are expecting shortly to hear

from the Prime Minister, she's been sharing an emergency Cobra committee

meeting this morning, let's go to Norman Smith in Downing Street.

Norman, what will have been happening at that Cobra meeting? The

first thing though be trying to do is pull together the information we

know about the attack in Finsbury Park, there'll be officials not just

from the police and emergency services but also the intelligence

services, the local authority and so on to get a full picture of what has

happened. The next part of the Cobra meeting I imagine will focus on

security and reassurance. On security, it's a slightly more shall

we say problematic incident in the is much more security in central

London, Finsbury Park is in a suburb in north London, not the same police

presence, not the same security precautions in place, the Home

Secretary this morning was saying there is at the moment already funds

set aside to provide additional security for places of worship that

feel for one reason or another they might be vulnerable. I think

something like two and a half million pounds is available and I

think something like a dozen mosques have taken advantage of that but

some churches too. I think the Home Secretary also signalled she would

look to extend that funding because one of the areas they will want to

look at is whether there are now has to be some sort of additional

security provided for places of worship. And then the second thing

they will want to focus on this reassurance, this being the fourth

attack we've had in the past three or four months, particularly in

London were of course we had three attacks. There will be double headed

element to the meeting I suspect, one of them trying to give a message

of reassurance and then to give additional security and see what can

be put in place, that was outlined by the Home Secretary Amber Rudd

earlier. Unfortunately we have again woken up

to another terrible incident in London where a man has taken hold

of a van and driven it into a group There was one fatal fatality

that we know about and a number of casualties, and the police

are treating it as a We know that the police

were on hand immediately, we know that they have treated it

immediately as a suspected terrorist event, and that is the normal

procedure and we will see whether they confirm

that later this morning. It was treated immediately

as a suspected terrorist attack. We must allow the police to deal

with the facts and they will make sure that they make those facts

available as soon as they can. Our priority must be to support

the people who have been victims of this and to make sure

the investigation is done with all We are concerned about everybody,

Londoners have been hit with a series of attacks and have

actually been nothing We will always make sure that

everybody's protected. We have a Places Of Worship fund,

which we announced last summer, which is there to protect places

of worship like mosques. We will make sure that we do

all we can to reduce She said that the police had

significant resources. You remember in the wake of the London Bridge

attack there were questions as to whether cuts in police numbers had

contributed to maybe a lack of intelligence at least about these

attackers with community police not being as prevalent as they were in

the past. We will, I expect, hear from the Prime Minister later this

morning. Now, she has to calibrate this right obviously and a very

different tone, I suspect, maybe approach from that in the wake of

the London Bridge attack when you remember the Prime Minister gave

that speech about enough is enough and the need to counter Islamist

extremism. Now, we appear to have an attack targeted specifically on the

Muslim community. Then the Prime Minister talking about how there

were far too many, as she called safe spaces for extremism and

intolerance and not just, she said, on the internet and cyberspace, but

also, she particularly talked about the public sector, about schools in

low Local Government and she was talking about the need for a

complete culture change. Now, what will be interesting when we hear

from her later is how she calibrates this particular attack and I suspect

there will be some attention on how far maybe the focus has just been on

the threat from Islamist extremism and whether there has been any sense

that the Security Services have maybe been diverted from focussing

on far-right and those sort of groups. So that, it will abvery,

very different approach because previously as I say, it was very

much a series of measures she outlined, she also went on to talk

about possibly trying to beef up TPims, making them more like the old

control orders which were abandoned the she also talked about making it

easier to deport people, and suggested maybe that involved

rerighting the Human Rights Act. Today, I suspect she will have to

have a very different sort of message to counter a different sort

of threat. Quite an important moment for the Prime Minister not just to

strike the right tone, but to offer some reassurance to London which has

been going through some pretty difficult tiles recently with the

Grenfell Tower fire too and to try and cafe that mood of solidarity I

guess in the capital. So, for her, quite an important moment.

Thank you very much, Norman. Well, the Secretary of State for

communities, Sajid Javid is due to arrive. Boris Johnson has said, "My

con dough labses to the victims of last night's despicable attack. We

must never allow hate to divide us. " With me are three members of an

interfaith group. Thank you all for joining us. I know that you have all

been working together through the night to make sure that, do what you

can to make sure that communities come together. We are going through

difficult times. The communities are worried. There is a lot of stress.

In the community. There is a lot of anger. We need to channel that anger

through the right channels and ensure that anger doesn't turn into

something uglier and we also need to make sure that we, as people of

Britain, as Britons, as people of London, we are all in it together.

We are not in it as Muslim or Jew as Christian. If part of our community,

in this case it is a Muslim community targeted, we are all

together shoulder-to-shoulder as you see now and we are really so

grateful to so many Jewish and Christian and other leaders who have

been spending their own night with us tonight to see how to respond to

this ins didn't. We will never allow these extremists whether they come

from right-wing or relblegous extremists, we will never allow them

to divide us. I would love to say something about anger. Righteous

indignation at the moment is the right thing. At the moment we have

seen so many incidents, I was with the 500 immals who spoke out against

the terrorist attacks just a fau days ago, last week, in London

Bridge, righteous indignation says this will not carry on here. This

kind of behaviour is absolutely condemned by Britain and this will

not be the pattern about how communities get on with each other,

whatever faith or no faith, righteous indignation can take us

further away from this. Agree Ab? Attack on one faith is an attack on

all faiths it seems to me and the reason so many peel have turned up

today from all different faith communities is believe we want to

stand in solidarity with our Muslim brothers and sisters. Just a few

hours before they had been gathering with members of the Christian and

the Jewish community in support of the Jo Cox Foundation. It's ironic,

within a couple of miles this happens. But it's not irony because

that's the thing that really infuriates people who don't want

peel to get together, don't want that message. So in response to a

message of a we will carry on and we will carry on despite this, is

exactly the message. That is the point that made them so angry and

therefore, we have to respond by being together and being together.

We are. We will see greater numbers arrive by the moment. Laura was

saying about the right out anger. What are you feeling is the reaction

this morning? Well, I think there is certainly a lot of Islamophobia in

the media. Some of it is pla tent. Some of it is more hidden. We really

need to deal with the root cause of this. We need to treat all

communities in a fair, and equal manner. If we discriminate, whether

it's into the legal system or through authorities, even the

perception of it, we must deal with. It may not be all of it true, but

the perceptions are there. And I would say, as the bishop rightly

said, 500 imams are saying it is not so much to do with religion per se,

it's to do with people, using religion, abusing religion in a

wrong way and I think, my message to people in power to presidents of the

free world, is please deal with the sources of extremism both within

your right-wing extremists, don't be their voice. Don't target Muslim

communities and stop some of your so-called allies from funding these

religious extremists. Unless we're honest and deal with this issue

head-on, we're going to beat around the bush. There is an important role

for local communities in this. London is an extraordinary global

city. 40% of the population of this city were born outside the United

Kingdom and we have a good track record of actually living together

in peace and harmony. That's a story we need to tell better and better.

It's a story that we aren't as good as telling that story as we ought to

be. We have 100 members of our neighbourhood came to the mosque

after the fire. We have been overwhelmed with offers of gifts, of

gifts and of help, of volunteering, they all want to come to our mosque

to do the packaging. This is London. This is the beauty of London. Why is

the media not covering the positive stories more often? I think one of

the most positive store Chris that happened in Muslim Britain, Britain,

certainly Muslim London, has been the 500 imams who came out with a

very clear plan. We will not give a Muslim funeral, we will not Bury, we

need to deal with what is happening on line, we need to deal with what

is happening in the curriculum, that's a fantastic story about

change that is happening from within the Muslim communities in Britain.

That is transformational. That was the first time 500 imams, it was

amazing. Usually Muslims are reactive to events. In this case,

they were proactive. This will to act like that has always been there,

it is just that the community doesn't know how to organise it, how

to say it, I'm glad that the voices of reason have a better outlet to

the media and knows how to deal with PR.

This is a story actually where the people came together and

effectively, effected a citizen's arrest while they were waiting for

the police to come? Muslims who were attacked, they did not attack the

attacker. They just held him. Waiting for the police to arrest.

What does that tell you? These are law abiding citizens. Even at a time

of anger they did not act in an unreasonable manner. Somebody, a

person, an individual human being has died here and many have been

injured and we need to hold that particular part of the human story

in our hearts of the it's easy for people to gather on an occasion like

this and to make it into something more and there is a bigger story to

be told here, the human story, the personal story is important as well.

The community secretary will be coming here. What do you want to

hear from him? What do people want to hear from him? From him. Yes. Two

things is people being here alongside saying I'm in pain, I'm

sorry, this is human life and then a plan because what we need is a plan

for a Britain that we have seen has become more segregated. We need a

plan that works on many levels in order to change the narrative, to

change the narrative in Britain and to work out what happens in schools,

having difficult conversations, that's what we need from him. We

also need the Government to be transparent. To give right data, to

be more aware of the needs of the Muslim community. To not leave any

stone unturned. When crimes happen against Muslims, they need to treat

it the same way as they would treat other communities.

Sorry to interrupt, but Sajid Javid is walking behind us, the

communities secretary. He has gone through the cordon. We hadn't

expected him to go through. He is going to go down and look at the

scene and then he will meet with members of the community and come

back. I know that the three of you are meeting him and we're joined by

another guest. I'm part of the London Muslim community Forum. I

represent Newham and Red Bridge. What happened in Manchester and what

happened in Westminster, on London Bridge and at the Grenfell Tower and

now this. We work to make sure that there is community engagement and

cohesion, everyone pulling together as one community. We have got

pictures now of the suspect, I think, being arrested, the moment

the suspect was arrested by the police and we were hearing how

members of the community who were there as the van drove into that

crowd and mounted the pavement, injured at least ten people, one

person has died. That person who WHO has died is the man who was actually

being tendered to by locals who had seen him struggling in the street

having apparently had a heart attack. He has died. We're not sure

if as a result of the heart attack or injuries sustained when the

vehicle went off the road and into the crowds. Those are the pictures

we have of the suspect as he was taken away by police. Let's hear

from Jeremy Corbyn. He is the local MP here and he has spoken of his

shock. I live down there on Seven Sisters Road and obviously I was

aware of the ins didn't very quickly because of the number of police

vehicles and the helicopter overhead. I know the community very

well and I came here last night to talk to the police and the

firefighters and ambulance crew who were here and the response by all

three emergency services was very timely and very quick and the police

managed to arrest the suspect, who was driving the van, and taken away

from the area and sadly, the gentleman who died, his body was on

the ground and covered by a tent so a forensic examination could take

place. The community here became very angry because in the initial

stages this wasn't being referred to as a terrorist attack. Do you think

this terrorist attack is being treated as seriously as others?

Well, I'm treating it as seriously as any other attack. This was a van

driven into a crowd of people who were tending a man who was already

injured and they were coming home from night-time prayers in the

mosque, it's Ramadan and it's perfectly normal and eight people

have been injuredmed some of them I understand extremely seriously and

as I see it, this is a terror on the streets and it's a terror of the

people in the streets in the communities I'm very proud to

represent in Parliament and that's why I'm here today. It is your

constituency. Has the Prime Minister been in touch with you this morning

to talk to you about this? Yes, Downing Street have been in touch

with us and I was speaking to the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan as well,

we had a long conversation at about 4am whilst I was in Muslim Welfare

House so we were making sure the response was as efficient and as

co-ordinated and also to give reassurance to the community,

reassurance to the community of their safety and reassurance that

they are free to practise their faith. They are free to walk about

the streets and people must be able to do that, but I have to say the

stress levels I've met already from people both last night and this

morning they are just frightened, just frightened that something like

this would happen again. So we need efficient and effective policing. We

obviously need also an attitude in our society of support for each

other. The only way to deal with this kind of issue is communities

coming together and this is a very multi-faith community. Christians,

Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist. All live around here and this is a

microcosm of a community working together.

Do you think there should be more security around mosques now? We have

had threats made to muslin welfare house and other religious places in

the area. An attack on a mosque, a synagogue, a church is an attack on

all of us, we have to protect each other's faith, way of life and that

is what makes a strong society and community. I am not complaining at

all about the local police, they work very well together with both

the mosques infant spree part to make sure they have the support that

they need and I am in close touch with police as well as those in

Scotland Yard. You said you spoke to Downing Street have you spoken

directly to Theresa May was to mark I haven't spoken to her directly but

our offices have in touch and she has expressed condolences for the

deaf and also concerns about what happened last night. Do you expect

her to make a visit today? It's not up to me to decide what the Prime

Minister Doss, I am the local MP, I am the leader of the Labour Party

and the opposition and at the moment, I am here as you would

expect any constituency MP to be present and these are people I have

represented for more than 35 years, I know many of them extremely well

and I feel their pain today and I feel stressed today and I think we

have to all reach out and feel their pain under stress. The only answer

to this, the only answer to this has to be strong community and strong

communities together, to end these dreadful incidents. Let's just take

a look at the latest pictures that we have that had just come through,

the moment the suspect was taken away by police, having been stopped

from fleeing the scene by the bull here who had gathered. And there was

a lot of anger, confusion initially. -- stopped from fleeing the scene by

bit people here. The streets were very busy here, Muslims breaking the

Ramadan fast, gathering in a local cafe on the other side of the road,

leaving Finsbury Park mosque where they had been for evening prayers.

People as they realised what had happened were very angry. The

suspect was stopped from leaving by people who managed to pin him to the

ground and wait for police to arrive. Let's get some reaction from

a local MP, Catherine West, the neighbouring constituency Hornsey

and Wood Green. A terrible thing to have happened here and quite

understandably, a huge amount of anger. Importantly, well done to the

community and the people worshipping last night because they were so calm

in the face of what must have been a terrifying event and they were able

to assist the police by holding down the person involved. And by playing

their role in bringing this person to account which is what we need, we

need to understand why somebody would do such a terrible thing,

particularly at this sensitive time of the calendar, being Ramadan and

also, a big shout out also to local council who were here on the scene

as soon as possible and also to all the local representatives who have

come to show solidarity this morning. We've spoken to faith

leaders who have come together in an interfaith group which is already

something that happens and they've been speaking very much about the

need for communities to come together, this is the sort of thing

that could lead to people who want to exploit it using it as a way to

exploit people's fears. The Muslim welfare house which is how it is

known locally has an amazing impact across the community, 180 languages

spoken in local schools, we have Jewish, Muslim or people of no faith

who come together on an open day to come and celebrate being together,

through the Joe Cox Memorial Day yesterday we came together, this was

one of the places together in which people came together and we are

externally focused here, we want to bring people in, to share what

different people believe, enjoy the fact that we are part of this

amazing community. -- Jo Cox. I will have to interrupt you, police are

about to give an up date on the tower fire... To establish how many

people we believe are missing and as of this morning, I'm afraid to say

there are 79 people died we believe are either dead or missing and I

sadly have to presume are dead. Of that 79 we have formally identified

five people. We are supporting the families and loved ones of each of

those 79 and with the agreement of the families and the coroner, once

we have confirmed identities of those that have died, we will be

releasing their names. Now sadly, for many families, they have lost

more than one family member and my heart truly goes out to them. This

is an incredibly distressing time for all of them. And I said before,

one of my absolute priorities is to identify people as quick as we can,

to recover them from Grenfell Tower, that numbered 79, may change. I

believe there may be people who were in Grenfell Tower, that people may

not know or missing and may not have realised they were in there on the

night. Equally there may be people who thankfully managed to escape the

fire and for whatever reason and for whatever reason, have not let their

family and friends or police know they are safe. If that is you, and

we haven't been informed, I don't care what that reason is but I urge

you to get in touch. The search and recovery operation was in Grenfell

Tower continues. We are working closely with colleagues from the

London Fire Brigade, from the London Ambulance Service and are specially

trained police officers to as swiftly as we can, recovery and

those that have died. This is an incredibly distressing time for

families and they have my commitment that we will do this as quickly as

we possibly can. The awful reality as I've said before is that due to

the intensity of the fire and the devastation within Grenfell Tower,

that we may not be able to identify everybody that wide. We have been

from the top to the bottom of Grenfell Tower. The search operation

will be painstaking and having been in there myself it's really hard to

describe the devastation that the fire has caused. And that is why we

released some images and photographs of some of the damage caused

yesterday and I'm incredibly grateful to the occupier of the

flats shown to let us share about so the public and families can

understand what it is and for that looks like within Grenfell Tower.

Now the investigation was commenced on day one, so we as the

Metropolitan Police have primacy investigation and right from the

very outset than working with colleagues, investigators from the

London Fire Brigade, the Health and Safety Executive, using a wide range

of specialist as part of our enquiries. What's important for me

is to find answers for those families that have been so deeply

affected. The investigation will look at a wide range of areas from

how the building was constructed, the refurbishment that has

previously been reported on, how it is managed and maintained, fire

safety measures and a wide range of other areas. It would be wrong for

me to speculate today what the outcome of that investigation might

be. But I'd like to reassure everybody that we will be looking at

all criminal offences that may have been committed by any individual or

any organisation. We will go for the evidence may take us and for

offences have been committed, I will do everything within my gift to

ensure that those responsible are brought to justice. The

investigation is going to be hugely complex and it will be exhaustive.

It would be wholly inappropriate were right to give a running

commentary on that investigation, however, I would give everybody the

assurance that if I identified, as a result of our enquiries, and issued

that is a risk to public safety, we will be sharing that immediately

with the relevant authorities. And finally I would like to thank the

local community, to Grenfell Tower for the patients that they have

shown the emergency services since the outset. Our search and recovery

operation will take a long time. I expect it to take many, many weeks.

And of course, most importantly, my thoughts and those of all of us are

with those families that have been so deeply affected by this tragedy.

I am happy to take some questions. You went into the building yourself

on Saturday. Can you describe what that same was like? So the images

which we shared yesterday tries to get across the nature of what is in

there. I've investigated major crime for most of my service, and I've

seen some terrible things but I don't think anything prepared me for

what I was going to see when I was in there. Can you give us a picture

of what it was like to be in amongst the devastation? So, it's hard to

describe my feelings, I can't imagine putting myself in the

position of those families who have lost loved ones. But being with

those colleagues from the London Fire Brigade when I was in there,

colleagues from the London Ambulance Service and other police officers, I

think it's fair to say it's incredibly emotional working in

America but we will do it with our utmost professionalism and we will

do everything we can as quickly as we can, to locate and recover

everybody who is in there. Are you expecting the number may change

significantly? So, as I said, today, this morning, I know there are 79

people that are either confirmed dead that have been identified or

are missing and sadly I have to presume are dead. I do think there

may be some change to that number. The work we are doing is about

trying to find those people to see if they are safe and well and

thankfully, over the last few days, we have identified five people who

people believed were missing and I'm so grateful that they actually are

safe and well. That is the latest from the police on the Grenfell

Tower disaster, 79 people dead or missing, the latest figure that we

heard and he said very sadly, they do have to believe those 79 are

dead. There is still potentially some hope that some people have not

reported themselves as not being in the building, there is a list of Ms

-- of missing unaccounted for and police say if there is anyone out

there who may be on the list report themselves, five people, it's been

discovered, who were on the list previously have come forward in the

last few days but a very, very sombre statement from the police

with the death toll now up to 79, it is presumed. Those very distressing

pictures released of the inside of the building indicating exactly what

terrible difficulties they are dealing with as they try to continue

to do with what has happened at Grenfell Tower.

We are live in Finsbury Park because there has been another terror

incident after midnight last night. A man driving a white van left the

pavement and hit several people who were gathered in the street after

the mosque was holding evening prayers. People had been outside the

mosque as well breaking the Ramadan fast. They were in the streets and a

van at speed deliberately drove into the crowd of people who were

gathered there. One man, who is 48, has been arrested. With me now is

Sajid Javid, the Communities Secretary. You have been down to the

scene. You have been meeting some of those who were here. Local people.

What have you seen? What are your thoughts? I wanted to come here as

soon as I can. First of all to express my sympathy to the victims,

their family and their friends for this des pickcable attack, but also

to condemn what has happened here there, attack on innocent people.

I've talked to the police here. The police will be issuing information

later, more about what has actually happened, but let's remember that

the people, the person, that's perpetrated this attack, his sole

purpose, like the attacks that we have seen in Manchester dreadfully

and London recently is to try and divide our society and that will

fail. These people, these perpetrators will never succeed. The

other reason I'm here as well I want to reassure first the local Muslim

community and Muslims across Britain that we will always as a Government

take a zero tolerance approach to hate crime, where there is

anti-Muslim hate crime, any type of hate crime in our community. The

Muslim community has our full support, I want to learn more from

the community that more we can do to reassure them at this very difficult

time. We have been speaking to a lot of people here this morning that

feel that Islamophobia has not been treated in the same way as other

forms of extremism and feel that voices haven't been heard and felt

that the incident here has been treated differently? This incident

is being very seriously, the police are treating this as a terrorist

incident and it is being investigated by the

counter-terrorism unit. There is lots of people here today, there is

a meeting going on right now and there is a meet that the Prime

Minister is chairing right now of the mbleg Cobra committee to see

what other response we can have that can help both here, but also perhaps

nationally as well if required. In Government, now, for a number of

years we have had a Muslim hate crime working group that works with

my department, the Home Office, and we work with Muslim leaders

throughout Britain to see what more we can do. But when you have a

perpetrator like this and of course, we don't know enough about the

individual's motives and I don't want to jump to any conclusion, but

clearly from what we have seen and what we know already, this is a hate

crime attack, it is unacceptable in any community and I want to make

sure that every community in Britain, but particularly right now,

Britain's Muslim community feels that it has all the support that it

needs and I want to give the maximum reassurance and that's one reason

for me being here right now is to talk to local people and talk to the

local leaders and see what more it is that we can do to give them

reassurance. We have heard from people who are feeling that it's too

frightening, perhaps to go and pray at mosques late at night. I have

spoken to a lot of young men who said that female members of the

family aren't doing it because they feel too vulnerable. What about

security at mosques? Will that be chakeed? I can understand those

feelings. It is a Ramadan period and people will be fasting all day and

then breaking their fast late at night and it is an opportunity for

them to get together and celebrate opening their fast and I want people

to feel as safe and as secure as possible. What will you do to make

that the case? Well, already I think the police here in London have

announced that they will put on extra patrols, have more visible

policing, I think that in itself will be helpful, but also give

reassure Abs, but we have got to will be to local leaders and others

about what more it is that they think we can do. In the end though,

resources are tight. Are you going, can you give a pledge that what you

are asked for, you will give? I can absolutely be clear that whatever

resources are necessary to give people the reassurance and the

security they want, that's what we will be providing. You said about

patrols, for instance, if the people at this mosque say what we want is

dedicated policing, whatever they ask, will they get it? Right now the

police say they can provide extra support and that's good. Already

that message, even so early this morning, I think is reassuring to so