04/07/2017 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello, it's Tuesday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

This morning - in an exclusive interview,

the father of the youngest victim of the Manchester Arena

terror attack says his family has lost everything.

Saffie Roussos would have turned nine today.

that she was in one of the hotels or hospitals that

When he came and told me, I just couldn't believe it.

I can't say I did anything, I just sat there looking at him.

Watch the interview in about 10 minutes' time.

Also on the programme - you rent out your home via Airbnb

and come back to find this has happened.

It's beyond words, it's unbelievable.

We'll look at what rights people who rent out their home have.

And - locked up for 23 and a half hours a day -

a court will rule today whether the detention of a teenage

boy with significant mental health issues at a young offenders

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Our top story today...A plan to revolutionise the treatment that

cancer patients receive, through individually

mapping their DNA, is being proposed by the Chief Medical Officer for

The proposals would mean millions of patients would have treatments

that would be directly targeted at the particular strain

Our medical correspondent Fergus Walsh reports.

More than 30,000 NHS patients, mostly with cancer or rare diseases,

have had their entire genetic code mapped.

Some patients with breast, lung, skin and other cancers are having

the genetic profile of their tumours analysed to determine which are

But Dame Sally Davies told me genome testing needs to be turned

from a cottage industry into a national network

Cost matters. Of course it does.

Patients will benefit if we can offer them the scan of their genome

that will make a difference to their treatments.

That's clearly all people with rare diseases,

of whom there are 3 million or more in this country.

It's most patients with cancers and quite a lot of infections.

Dame Sally says six in ten cancer patients who get gene tested receive

personalised treatment based on their DNA profile, and that

It costs ?680 to map a person's entire genetic code,

but it's getting cheaper every few months.

In some cases, DNA mapping can be cheaper than existing tests or avoid

This report is an attempt to democratise genomics, moving DNA

analysis into the mainstream of the NHS so that more

and more patients can benefit from personalised,

Joanna Gosling is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

North Korea says it has successfully tested a long-range

intercontinental missile which could potentially have

Pictures were released of the country's dictator

Kim Jong-un watching the testing, amid growing tension over

the increased frequency of its missile tests.

The US said a missile landed in the Sea of Japan, but that it

did not pose a threat to North America.

The father of the youngest Manchester terror attack victim,

Saffie Roussos, has paid tribute to his "stunning" daughter,

on what would have been her ninth birthday.

Saffie was one of 22 people killed in the attack after an Ariana Grande

Speaking to Victoria, Saffie's father Andrew

said his daughter was a "huge character" who dreamed of becoming

Her heart was huge. So gentle, but the inside was strong. She wanted to

be famous. She wanted to be on stage. She wanted to, you know, be

Ariana Grande, where she is now. That was savvy's dream.

And you can see Victoria's full interview with Saffie's

The Chancellor says the government needs to hold its nerve

on public sector salaries, after calls from some senior

cabinet figures to lift the 1% annual pay cap.

Speaking to business leaders, Philip Hammond, said he understood

people were weary of seven years of austerity but said

that the Government shouldn't abandon its economic plan.

He insisted the "right balance" must continue to be struck in terms

of what is fair for workers and taxpayers.

A new report warns that nearly 700,000 children in England

are living in families described as "high risk".

The assessment by the Children's Commissioner, Anne Longfield,

also says many vulnerable young people struggle with abuse

It concludes that large numbers of children who need help

Charities that harassed owners the cash could be fined. The fundraising

preference service enables people to stop e-mails, phone calls post from

charities deemed to be harassing them. They will face fines from the

fundraising regulator. The BBC is to spend an extra ?30

million on new content for children of the next few years. The BBC says

more competition from the likes of Facebook means it wants to boost its

online presence. It is expected it will include more video, blogs,

podcasts, quizzes, games and apps. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9.30. It's the second day of Wimbledon,

a rest day for Andy Murray after his first round victory

on Centre Court. He beat Alexander Bublik

in straight sets and will play Johanna Konta, Heather Watson

and Aljaz Bedene were the other Five time champion

Venus Williams is also through, but broke down

during her news conference. She was answering questions

about a fatal car crash last month in Florida and she is facing

a lawsuit for wrongful death The three time Champion faces

the Slovakian Martin Klizan. Follijng him onto Centre Court

will be the seven time And in other sport,

the World Champion Peter Sagan won the third stage at the Tour de

France but three time winner Chris Froome has moved up to second

in the standings behind his teammate Geraint Thomas, who still has

the leader's yellow jersey. Back with more sport

in the next hour, but you'll be getting more from Wimbledon

in the next 15 minutes. This morning, in an exclusive

interview, the father of the youngest victim

of the Manchester terror attack has paid tribute to his "stunning"

daughter on what would have Andrew Roussos told this programme

that he will remember Saffie as a "huge character",

who was everything you could ask She was among 22 people who lost

their lives following an attack I don't even know how

to put it into words. She was a joker, she was a huge

character, but she was just She was just everything, you know,

everything you could wish for in a little girl,

I should say. She was just a stunning young lady

that just loved life to the full. Can I ask you, Andrew,

about the night of the bombing, and when you first started to find

out what had gone on? We finished work and me

and my son went to pick them I mean, Saffie was just so looking

forward to the concert, you know, it had been a dream,

and she wanted to stay So Lisa said to me, you know,

she's still on stage, just talking, thanking all the fans

and everything, so she wanted to stay till the end, so I said, OK,

I'll go and find somewhere to park and, you know, give me

a call when you come out. So we did manage to park

round the corner, not too far And then within five minutes we just

heard everybody screaming, running. Me and Zander thought, you know,

there is some trouble or that type of thing,

and then we saw the children screaming, so I was trying to speak

to people to find out what was going on, and then

obviously somebody said there's a bomb, somebody said

it was balloons let Obviously, it's late at night,

you know, I had Xander with me, we had the dog with us as well,

so I said have to go and a look, and we just walked round and all

the police were just How did you track down,

then, your wife Lisa, and Ashlee, your 26-year-old,

and Saffie, your eight-year-old, how did you try and find

out where they were? Well, as I went round the corner

I did see Ashlee outside. I believe a couple of

doctors were with her, that were at the arena at the time,

so I spoke to them, asking Ashlee was confused at the time,

so she couldn't really Police wanted to get everybody out

of the area, you know, just in case there was something

else, so I said I'm looking for my wife and, you know, Saffie,

and they said the best thing to do is just to vacate

the area just in case. So me and Xander just

had a good look around, to see if there was anybody around,

you know, to look for them, and in the end a lot of armed police

came and basically told us to leave the area and get to Manchester Royal

for more information. What was your state of mind

at this point, Andrew? You've seen Ashlee,

you've seen one daughter And then you're trying to find your

wife and your other daughter. You're panicking, you're worrying,

you want to get in there, have a look and make

sure they're safe. The police are sort of pushing you,

you know, to safety. It's just a very nerve-racking

experience, if you like, a worrying experience,

because you don't The police didn't know

what was going on. Obviously, Ashlee was injured,

but they told me that she was stable, so obviously I had a quick

look around to see if I could spot them, but in the end

the police just said, just get to the hospital,

and as ambulances are coming in, the police will tell you who's

coming in and who's not, When were you able to work out

what had happened to Lisa, It was a friend of ours that kept

on ringing all the hospitals up, because we were constantly ringing

them up and trying to find out who's coming in and who's not,

and a good friend of ours, Mike, told me, there's

a Lisa Roussos in Salford, so I did ring them up,

I asked them if Lisa was there and they said yes,

and couldn't give me any more So I went down to Salford

and they obviously told me about Lisa and her injuries

and the surgery that they did, and then they transferred her over

to where she is now. And what did you find

out about Saffie? As a parent, and because of,

you know, everything that was going on, I did think

of the worst, and I remember saying to the detective before

he went out, I said, you know, if something's

happened to Saffie, I'm sure one of the hospitals

would have her because she would be at the scene

or on the way to hospital. This was, you know, 11,

12 o'clock on the Tuesday. And he sort of said,

leave it with me, let me go and get as much information as I can

and so I was holding onto just a little bit of hope

that she was in one of the hotels or in a hospital that they haven't

checked, and when he came I just sat there, looking at him,

he was looking at me. Just let your worst nightmare

begin, if you like. Then obviously, we just had a good

ten, 15, 20 minutes. He didn't know what to say,

I didn't know what to say. And obviously, we had

Zander as well outside, and obviously I had to bring him

in and tell Zander as well. You've already told us,

Andrew, that at this point, your wife, Lisa,

Saffie's mum, was in And of course it was only

when she came round that you're able to tell her what had happened

to your daughter. You know, I didn't

tell her - she told me, You know, she hasn't really fully

gone into it because obviously she's just spoke about it a few

times, and she remembers When she came round,

what did she say? You have talked about your wife's

injuries and obviously her desperate I mean, considering her injuries

and operations that she's had, the amount of times and the time

she has spent in hospital so far, I mean, I'm a strong guy,

I'd like to think I am. But I was worried to death

that she might just give up, because it's very difficult,

particularly when you've got Saffie But, no, she's marching

on to get herself up and physically strong

to tackle what's coming,

really, and not just for her, for us, because it's

something that we all need. We've all lost Saffie,

and we all need to be Lisa's doing everything she possibly

can, she is surprising even the doctors, nurses,

the surgeons, and And how is Zander,

Saffie's ten-year-old brother, and how is Ashlee,

Saffie's 26-year-old sister? Yeah, we're all doing as good

as we can be, and we And we all do a little

bit of everything, I mean, we all sit there and think,

what are we going to do tomorrow? What are we going to do next week,

what are we going to do next month? All I know is that if we are strong,

we'll stick together, we will What will happen in a month's time,

I've got no idea, And we just look at

each other and say, let's just get through

today, and we do. We do a little bit of laughing

and a little bit of joking and a little bit of crying,

cuddling, supporting Lisa, and that's how

we get through each day. And we are nearly six

weeks down the line, and we all look at each other

and we say, well, we'll get there. Today would have been

Saffie's ninth birthday. How will you and your

family mark this? Saffie loved fame, loved

to be on camera, in newspapers, you know,

that was her goal, her dream. She wanted to be her,

she aspired to that. It was a dream to go

and see her, if you like. Again, her birthday

is coming up, today, and I just wanted, obviously,

to speak to yourselves and get some pictures

together, because I knew that Saffie pictures and to be spoken about

on TV, and it was Saffie's dream. As her dad, I wanted

to do that for her, and we are all here to

support our children, Obviously, apart from just

thinking about her and I don't know if you've

thought about this, Andrew. What would you like

Saffie's legacy to be? Knowing Saffie, Saffie

wanted to be the most I'm going to try and do

everything to make that happen for her,

because she was a beautiful,

stunning young lady, that had confidence,

that you And she would push and use anything

in her way to get to She was just so soft

and gentle on the inside, but just so strong

in what she wanted, and she wanted, She wanted to be on stage,

she wanted to be Ariana And again, you know,

part of this is to mark a little tribute for Saffie for her birthday,

and because there's not many pictures out there

of her at the minute, I've managed to get some developed,

and I just wanted to share that with everybody,

because that's what she wanted. She wanted to be famous

and, yes, I'd love to make her as famous

as I possibly can. Can I ask what you think about

the way Ariana Grande responded to what had happened at her concert,

and what she did afterwards, by The biggest part of why

I wanted to meet her what she meant to Saffie,

and as her father, want her to blame herself,

because she was very distressed at the time and blamed herself and,

you know, a lot of different people said wrong things about her,

and a beautiful stunning young lady herself, and when I met up with her,

all she did say to me is, I'm sorry, and I said,

you've got nothing to be sorry for. You know, you've made Saffie

and all the children round the world so happy with what you do and you've

done nothing wrong, and I wanted And how did she respond

to what you said to her? She appreciated me

telling her that, because obviously again, as a young lady,

you know, she must feel bad about what happened and everything

else, and I just wanted to tell her from me that

she's got nothing to be sorry for, And I thanked her for making my

daughter adore her and aspire to her and I said to her,

you know, many things It could have happened halfway

through the concert, at the start of the concert,

and she got to see her, right to the end, and she had been

looking so forward to it that I'm grateful that she got

to see all of it. What do you think, Andrew,

of the way the people of Manchester, and Lancashire, where

you work and you live, I can't believe it, to be

honest with you, Victoria. I haven't read much in the papers,

I haven't really looked at What's happening outside, outside

the shop, it's just overwhelming. There are so many thank

yous I want to give, and the people of Manchester -

unbelievable. I mean, the police took us

into St Ann's Square a good few weeks back,

while Lisa was still asleep, if you like,

just to show us the tributes, I was a bit nervous to go in,

and when I did and I came away, just the love that I felt,

it made me feel, you know. When Lisa woke up a couple of weeks

back, I think it was one or two days before they cleared St Ann's Square,

and I asked Lisa, for the right And we all did, we all

did it as a family. The paramedics sorted it all out

for us, with the police, and we took Lisa on a stretcher

and an ambulance and we parked right outside, and there was me, Lisa,

Ashlee and Zander and, As I said, there are that many thank

yous I want to give, but I don't know right this minute,

you know, everybody to thank, Lancashire, Manchester,

around the world. I am constantly getting

cards from every corner It has touched so many

people around the world. At the beginning

of our interview, you described your daughter as stunning,

and then said there are so many things you want to say

about her, you don't even Saffie was a very cheeky, beautiful,

stunning young girl that was so forward, for her years,

and she loved dancing, music, Again, you know, she was self-taught

in gymnastics - she used And she just sat in

front of YouTube or in front of the TV and basically had

me, mine and Lisa's hearts in our mouth because she was just jumping

from one place to the next, back flipping and all the rest

of it, and I remember saying to Lisa a good

few weeks back, we need

to take her to gymnastics, and we managed to get her close

by into the gymnastics school, and I looked and I said

to her, are you excited? And she said to me,

no, and I said, why? She was just so confident,

and if she wanted something, she would

do it, you know. And did she get that

persistence from I have to say that I like

a challenge, if you like, but also, as a family, we've taken

many risks before and, yeah, More me, I would say, because I do

like a challenge, pushing myself, going into new ventures,

and hoping for the best, if you like, and I suppose it has

come a lot from that. You have spoken about your

daughter with remarkable Thank you so much for talking to us,

and we wish your family Andrew Roussos paying tribute

to his daughter, Saffie. Thank you for your many, many

commons. Yasmin said, I know Andrew personally, I am so heartbroken it

has happened to him and his family, so sad. Charlotte says, I am

watching the father of the youngest victim of the Manchester terror

attack talk about his daughter and it is heartbreaking. I cannot help

but feel his pain. Another, so heartbreaking listening to Saffie's

dad. My daughter is 16, I worry whether she will come home safe

every time she goes out at the moment. Tim says, I am in tears, so

brave. Jane on Facebook, so very sad, this beautiful, vibrant little

girl whose life has been snatched away so beautifully, this evil in

our lives must be stopped. So brave to speak out so lovingly of his

beautiful daughter. They say it is supposed to help with the healing

process, but how do you ever come to terms with losing a child? Thank you

so much for those. If you want to get in touch, you are also welcome.

You can send an e-mail or message us on Twitter. Still to come...

We all know about Airbnb and its success as a

property-letting website - but what happens

thousands of pounds of damage after the individual who hired

it had a massive party that was broken up by police.

And the 16-year-old with significant mental

health problems who's been locked up in solitary confinement

later this morning if his treatment is "inhumane".

We will bring you the story. Time for the latest news headlines. Terry

North Korea says it has successfully tested a long-range

intercontinental missile, which could potentially have

Pictures were released of the country's dictator,

Kim Jong-un, watching on, amid growing tension over

the increased frequency of the country's missile tests.

The US said a missile landed in the Sea of Japan, but that it

did not pose a threat to North America.

A plan to revolutionise the treatment that cancer patients

receive through individually mapping their DNA, is being proposed

by the Chief Medical Officer for England.

The proposals would mean millions of patients would have treatments

that were directly targeted at the particular strain

The cost of mapping has also been factored in.

The father of the youngest Manchester terror attack victim,

Saffie Roussos, has paid tribute to his "stunning" daughter,

on what would have been her ninth birthday.

Saffie was one of 22 people killed in the attack after an Ariana Grande

Speaking to Victoria, Saffie's father Andrew

said his daughter was a "huge character" who dreamed of becoming

The Chancellor says the government needs to hold its nerve

on public sector salaries, after calls from some senior cabinet

figures to lift the 1% annual pay cap.

Speaking to business leaders, Philip Hammond, said he understood

people were weary of seven years of austerity but said

that the Government shouldn't abandon its economic plan.

He insisted the "right balance" must continue to be struck

in terms of what is fair for workers and taxpayers.

A new report warns that nearly 700,000 children in England

are living in families described as "high risk".

The analysis by the Children's Commissioner, Anne Longfield,

also says many vulnerable young people struggle with abuse

It concludes that large numbers of children who need help

The BBC is to spend an extra ?30 million

on new content for children over the next three years.

As the battle for audiences increases, the BBC says more

competition from the likes of Facebook and Netflix means it

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.00.

A lot of people were worried about Andy Murray's injury problems,

but he showed no signs of any troubles yesterday, did he?

I know, what was he playing at?! He had been struggling with that hip

injury. But now on reflection, he had done the sensible thing. He

pulled out of those two exhibition matches. He did tonnes of extra

physio. He does extra Peillat is to get his hips back in shape. And if

you watched him yesterday, he played brilliantly. He played as well as he

needed to play. We were worried about his movement around the court.

He was hitting the ball fine, but his movement looks great considering

that a few days ago, that was a man who was limping when he walked. So a

huge relief all around to have the current Wimbledon champion safely

through out of the first round, playing here on Centre Court. And he

got such a great reception. I know you will hate this, but I am going

to ask you for a prediction of how far you think Murray may go in this

tournament. I do hate that. I hate it when people sit on the fence. My

heart this year belongs to Roger Federer, because there is something

about the way he has prepared for this tournament. He took a heap of

time off. He is playing brilliantly. He has managed his body and his

injuries perfectly, and there are something about the aura of Roger

Federer here at Wimbledon that makes him look like a champion. Andy

Murray will do really well as long as he doesn't enter into any five

set gruelling matches. At that point, if you are carrying an

injury, that is when you struggle. Interesting prediction, because

Roger Federer is 35. While Murray was winning on Centre Court, Venus

Williams was an number one court, but she struggled in the press

conference after, didn't she? Yeah. Those press conferences, you can be

asked anything, and Venus Williams has had a difficult few weeks. She

was involved in a road traffic accident in the States recently

where a 78-year-old gentleman was killed. It has been big news in

America, and she probably came to Wimbledon and probably feels like

she is in the Wimbledon bubble and could put that to one side for now.

But actually, she was asked for a response to that incident and this

was what she said. There are no words to describe how devastating

and... Yeah. I am completely speechless. I mean, I'm just...

Maybe I should go. Obviously a really difficult moment for her, and

at that point she stopped the press conference. But it is something she

will have to deal with at some point and talk about. Now, some shocks

yesterday with Stan Wawrinka going out. When might we see a surprise

today? I think there is one surprise we would all love to see. There is a

lady sitting next to me now, Sue Tarry, who would like to see a very

big surprise today. Give us one moment. TANNOY: the fire alarm is

about to be tested. Bear with us and we will try and talk to Sue Tarry!

The fire alarm is about to go off, don't panic! Sue's boy Alex Ward is

playing today. And it is safe to say you are beside yourself with

excitement about it, because Alex is number 850 in the world and he is

playing the world number 50, Kyle Edmund, also British, here at

Wimbledon. And it is a special day for you? Yes. It is my 60th birthday

today and it is an amazing birthday present. How hard did Alex have to

work to get to this point? Very hard. It has been 11 long years

since he started to train and worked his way up to a career-high ranking

last year in the 200s. It has been a slog all the way with injuries and

finances. Tennis is an expensive sport. How has he managed? He has

racked up a lot of debt, which is in something a mum wants to hear, but

when he was interviewed last year, it was news to me that he had maxed

out certain credit cards. That is not what you want to hear. It is

tough, because he doesn't necessarily earn as much as he

spends get into these tournaments, and he has to feed himself while he

is there. When you get into the higher tournaments, accommodation is

sometimes paid for and you get some meals, but it is tough. When he goes

to some more remote tournaments at the lower stages, he has been

sleeping in people's front rooms on sofa beds and things like that,

trying to find a good double -- affordable accommodation close to

the venue. How will he be feeling at this point? He is on court three

today. I think he will be pumped. We don't speak before matches.

Sometimes we go months without speaking to each other. We do

texting and Facebook and that's it. I know when I text him, I am not

impinging on his training or in the middle of a match. Sometimes there

is a time difference. He can pick up the messages when he wants. I just

like to know he is safe and happy when he gets to the venues and

tournaments. And I give him a bit of encouragement if I think he needs it

or he has done especially well or if something is not quite right. We

wish you a happy birthday and him the best of luck. What an amazing

birthday present, to have your child playing at Wimbledon. Before I go,

the shot of the day yesterday. Andy Murray. Safely through, but he is

going to play this chap next, Dustin Brown.

COMMENTATOR: That is sensational from Dustin Brown! Shot of the

tournament on the first day. Andy has played him before and he knows

he is rather good. And we are doing shot of the day every day, is that

right? Let's do it. Thank you, Sally. And good luck to Alex Ward.

Airbnb has revolutionised how people travel.

The online business allows hosts to rent out their homes to anyone

It gives travellers the option of a home instead of a hotel room -

and gives those with a spare room or house the chance

But what happens when it all goes wrong?

When the people staying in your home end up trashing it?

That's what happened to May Wong, who rented her home out on Friday

night to a girl who said she was visiting London to go

Rickin Majithia from the Asian Network has been to meet her.

Police have been called to what is normally a quiet street.

There were reports of fights in the middle

of the road and a house party that

A 16-year-old was arrested and charged with three counts

She rented out her property to an Airbnb user who said

she wanted to go to the nearby Adele concert.

The next morning, she returned home to find her house had

We caught up with her on Sunday, after the cleaners had already spent

You walked in on Saturday morning and you saw this.

It was much worse than this, the carpet over here

was stained with vomit, up and down the stairs.

I had a cupboard here, a glass cupboard, with a mirror,

you can see the mirror thing, blocking the safe.

I have got four panels, ceramics, that are gone.

They had stolen them, they are missing?

I have got a great ancestral table here, mother-of-pearl.

Into the lounge, where you have had the carpets removed.

Glass, still a few glasses here, beer bottles all over.

Myself and the cleaner were working since 7:30, 8am.

John was woken up by the commotion outside.

I was woken at 2am Saturday morning by this noise.

I looked out the window, and I could see possibly 20

policemen ushering a crowd of youngsters down the street.

Come 3am, an hour later, there were no police, nobody here,

but there was about six to ten young men who had turned up

on small motor scooters, what some people call mopeds,

with learner plates, and they were fighting

I find it a bit distressing, because you don't know what is going on.

You don't know why people are renting their properties out

Since launching in 2008, Airbnb has seen massive growth.

It boasts that more than 200 million guests have used the site to stay

in more than 3 million properties around the world, but May's

2,700 landlords reported property damage in 2016.

Airbnb say they will insure damage of up to ?6,000.

But their website also stipulates that items like jewellery,

collectables and artwork are not covered.

The company has declined our invitation for an interview,

but they have given us the following statement.

You went into your mum's house first thing on Saturday morning after the

Friday night. It was worse than what we saw in the film. What was it

like? It was terribly distressing. We were devastated. It was

gut-wrenching. There were bloodstains and vomit everywhere.

Blood on the carpets, plod on the wall, vomit all over the mattress.

In every room, there was vandalism. Whose responsibility if this? Well,

Airbnb, because they brought the guest to us. Innocently, we took the

guest on. She threw a massive party. There were alcohol, cigarettes,

drugs, blood, vomit all over the house. Everything was damaged. In

the carpets were completely destroyed. The windows were smashed

in, as you can see. The worst thing for me is the lack of support that

we got from Airbnb. When did you get in touch with them? Straightaway on

Saturday morning. And when did you hear back? Villa it takes ten

minutes to get through to anyone anyway. They said they would get

through to the right department. They said they would contact me on

the same day, but nothing happened. I called five times content several

e-mails sent them 60 to 80 photos. Not even an e-mail of empathy or

anything. It was only on Monday afternoon, yesterday, that a lady

called Flora came back to me and gave me reassurance that they would

help us recover our home. What does that mean, they will pay

for the damage? It will be at least ?20,000. The windows smashed, the

carpets, mattresses... Have they said they will pay for it? They said

they would help for us and compensate us. At the moment, it is

just words. We do not feel... Until everything is done properly, at the

moment, we are out of pocket. We already got the carpets removed, we

had to, there were so many insects and flies and spiders, because of

the smell, we had to get rid of it. There was from -- there was vomit

and blood. 200 million listings on Airbnb, do you accept that customer

actually, it is zero consolation to you? It is zero consolation. When

things are going well for them and everything is going great and they

are getting their money and their commission, everything is great, but

when things are going bad, I want to know what protection they will offer

hosts in the future because we did not feel protected, we felt very

vulnerable. If one of these people dealing with these agents, if this

happened to their home, Lisa faults, overdose of drugs in their home,

blood, vomit, cigarettes, alcohol, how would they feel? What would they

want, if the shoe was on the other foot? Where is their protection and

how how will they make it right? Airbnb, they are a highly reputable

company, how will they protect future hosts? Good luck, to you and

your mum. Coming up... Snapchat's new map feature,

that lets you see where all your friends are on a map,

is causing concern that it We'll speak to parents and charities

about their concerns. A judgement is expected in the next

hour in the case of a teenage boy's prolonged solitary

confinement in detention. The 16-year-old, who has significant

mental health problems, is said to have been held for up

to 23 and a half hours a day in solitary confinement

for much of his time at Feltham Young Offenders'

Institute in West London. First, let's talk to our home

affairs correspondent, Danny Shaw, who's at

the High Court this morning. Tell us a little bit more about this

case. This is a very troubling case. It is troubling on two levels. You

have a young person, 16, in custody for many months and who has a

terrible upbringing, troubled upbringing, he has witnessed trauma,

he has been in and out of care since a young age. Yet he also exhibits

some violent tendencies and it makes life very difficult for people

around him. He has very, very challenging behaviour. It is also

troubling from the other point of view which is since December, when

he arrived at Feltham Young Offenders' Institute in west London,

he has been held in conditions that the Howard League for Penal Reform

bringing the case say in effect amounts to solitary confinement. He

was not allowed out of his cell in the presence of any other young

inmates for the first few months certainly. He was held for 23.5

hours a day in his room, by himself. When he did come out of his room, he

had to be accompanied by three prison officers, such was the

concern about his behaviour. He had no education for the first three

months, he was only allowed out to have a shower and make phone calls,

to take medication. Since February, there has been a bit more time out

of his room and this case really is all about whether the treatment this

16-year-old who cannot identify, known by the initials AB, whether it

breaches his human rights and it is unlawful. We will find out in the

next hour, will we? Yes, the Government, the Justice Secretary is

resisting the legal challenge, has already conceded the authorities did

break certain prison rules and regulations. In that sense, some of

his lack of association with other young people who are locked up, it

was unlawful. They also conceded certain aspects of it breached his

right to a private life, to privacy, to being able to be allowed to do

what he wants to do within the confines of a prison environment.

But they do not accept it amounts to inhuman and degrading treatment and

that is what is being argued by lawyers on but half of the boy and

Howard League for Penal Reform. We are expecting a ruling at around

10:35pm with a High Court judge. What we should say about this boy is

he has really severe mental health problems, he has post-traumatic

stress disorder anxiety, hypervigilance, hyper arousal and

attention deficit hyperactive disorder and he needs high doses of

medication to deal with that. The history of his time in custody is

really very painful reading indeed. He has been a threat to other staff

and other people around him and he has also become a target as well.

The difficulty is, what do you do with young people like this? They

cannot be left in an environment by themselves. But equally, is it right

they are locked up for very long periods with nothing to do and no

one to talk to? Thank you very much. Danny will be back with us as soon

as the ruling is handed down. Let us talk to Francisco, the chief

executive officer of the Howard League for Penal Reform. -- France's

crook. And Leah, whose son was kept

in solitary confinement To protect the family's identity,

Leah wishes to remain anonymous. Good morning to you both. Francis

Crook, what would you do with a teenager who exhibit such

challenging behaviour, and it is potentially a threat to others? And

a threat to the order and discipline of the young offenders institute?

Our argument is this is a child protection issue, whatever you do,

you do not lock them up in a room not much bigger than a bathroom,

with a toilet, in fact, he has to eat and defecate in there and held

in there day after day with hardly any access to anybody else and

nothing to do. But as a child protection issue. If I did that with

my child, I would be in court for child abuse. Yet this institution

can get away with it. Although we are taking a challenge, a judicial

review, on behalf of one particular child, there are many others who are

being held in Feltham and other prisons in exactly the same

circumstances. The important thing is on Friday the Chief Inspector of

Prisons published a damning report on Feltham, absolutely damning,

saying it was a dreadful place. One thing he said very strongly was the

way they were treating children with escalating punishment regime was

making worse. Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Prisons has said this

is the wrong way to behave. How should this boy have been treated?

There are secure units run by local authorities that manage very

challenging children who have, like this boy, come from very neglected

and difficult backgrounds where they may have seen violence and

experienced abuse, mental health problems, there are units that deal

with them. They are expensive but that is the way we have to pay the

money because this is a 16-year-old child, he has his whole life ahead

of him, we want to help him so that he can come out and lead a good and

useful life. What they are doing at the moment is the opposite and it is

very likely he will be so damaged after months of solitary confinement

that he will be more dangerous. Let us bring in Leah. Your son was in

Feltham as well and at one point he was kept in solitary confinement for

over three months. Give our audience an insight into what that was like

for him. He became very depressed. Very troubled. He was very angry

inside. It was not helping him. Some of the officers used to tease him.

Why was he being kept for that prolonged period on his own in his

cell for most of the day and night? He went against the authorities, the

prison system, he had a fight with another young boy. He got put into

solitary confinement. For three months, it is too long. He is not

the only child going through that. All the boys regardless of solitary

confinement or not, they are kept in Feltham for 23 hours a day in their

cells. What did your son do all day? There is no electricity. He did not

have a kettle, no radio, no TV. Obviously, he went into himself, he

tried to read books, he tried to do crosswords, do a work-out, maybe,

but there is only so much you can do for 23.5 hours a day for three

months, as a 16-year-old child. It will have an effect on him in the

future. There is a minority of officers in Feltham who are

empathetic and caring, but the majority of the officers do not

treat, and they are children, 14-17 years old, they do not treat them

with any care whatsoever, they are brutally beaten behind closed doors.

They would deny that. They will deny that but there are ongoing

allegations. Any time the children try to put in a complaint, it is

overseen. Yeah, it needs to be sorted. We obviously asked the

Minister of justice for a statement on both cases, the one in the High

Court this morning and the case of your son and they declined to give

us a statement on either case. It is not a solitary case, it is happening

regularly and it has been going on for years. This treatment to

children in Feltham. Where is your son now? He has moved from Feltham.

Into another institution? Still detained? He is still detained but

he has time in the gym, time to play football, as any teenager should be

able to do. He has time to... He eats with the other inmates,

breakfast, lunch and dinner. In Feltham, they are just in their

room, 23 hours a day, that is where they stay. This is not going to help

them in their adulthood, it will not rehabilitate them it is basically

sending how many hundreds of young offenders back out into society

angry, vicious, angry with the system, angry with everybody. This

is not rehabilitation. This is modern-day torture. Why is he being

detained? He is being detained because he broke the law. Like

many... Like everybody has done. Can you tell us the nature of the

defence? I do not think that is the issue. I will break in. If you do

not want to answer, that is fine. I do not know if you want Francis

Crook to speak on your behalf. Petty crimes that could potentially come

out and do much worse crimes because of the mistreatment they are

receiving in there as children, they are being kept in a room for 23

hours a day without any outside contact. My son was in solitary

confinement for three months without any association. A lot of children

are sent into prison on remand awaiting trial and when they come to

court, they will not get a prison sentence because they have not done

anything that serious. There is a problem with black young boys being

sent to prison disproportionately. There are lots of children in prison

who do not want to be there. The handful who are so dangerous and

difficult who require custody, their local authority units that work. We

should use those, not places like Feltham there is no education for

them, they hardly get any education. A 15-year-old boy placed in a room

no education, solitary confinement or not, the boys not receiving any

education. They do get a set number of hours a week. Seven hours. At

best. That is all they get in Feltham. That is what the chief

inspector said last week. It is a really poor institution failing

children, failing the staff who cannot cope, failing the public and

the taxpayer and failing the victims. Thank you. Thank you very

much, both of you. I am hearing the OJ will give us a statement when we

have had the ruling from the High Court which is coming at half past

ten. -- MOJ. Danny Shaw will bring you the news first on ABC News. We

will bring you the latest news and sport in a second.

Let's get the latest weather update with Simon.

Over the next few days, it is going to turn very warm. Particularly for

southern parts of England where temperatures will be into the high

20s. The rain continuing across Northern Ireland, southern Scotland,

the far north of England into the afternoon. Northern Scotland, not

too bad with a bit of sunshine and showers. Showers this money across

England and Wales but sunny spells in the afternoon and temperatures

getting up to 25 -- showers this morning. Tonight, the raining

Northern parts will peter out but it will stay cloudy, damp in the

Wednesday, remaining cloudy here. Temperatures still rising in the

north. Across the South, increasing amounts of sunshine, temperatures up

to 26, perhaps 29. We keep the heat on Thursday. With the heat comes the

risk of showers and some of the showers will be heavy thundery, very

hit and miss. More details as the day and night goes on.

In an exclusive interview, the father of the youngest victim

of the Manchester Arena terror attack says Saffie would have wanted

Knowing Saffie, she wanted to be the most famous

young girl in the world, that was her dream.

And I want to do all I can to make that happen for her

because she was the most stunning girl, she had confidence that

And thank you to all of you who have been getting in touch about this.

Sarah says, brave man, such a touching tribute to his daughter.

Thank you for sharing. We will pass on all your messages to Andrew

Roussos. More than ?17 million has now been

raised for the victims of the Grenfell fire,

but there are concerns that some survivors have received no

money from donations, I'll be in the studio looking

and why it might not have got through, later this hour.

Snapchat's new map feature lets you see where all your friends

are on a map, but there are worries that it could lead to

We'll speak to parents and charities about their concerns.

Joanna Gosling is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

North Korea says it has successfully tested a long-range

intercontinental missile, which could potentially have

Pictures were released of the country's dictator,

Kim Jong-un, watching on, amid growing tension over

the increased frequency of the country's missile tests.

The US said a missile landed in the Sea of Japan, but that it

did not pose a threat to North America.

A plan to revolutionise the treatment that cancer patients

receive through individually mapping their DNA is being proposed

by the Chief Medical Officer for England.

The proposals would mean millions of patients would have treatments

that were directly targeted at the particular strain

The cost of mapping has also been factored in.

The father of the youngest Manchester terror attack victim,

Saffie Roussos, has paid tribute to his "stunning" daughter,

on what would have been her ninth birthday.

Saffie was one of 22 people killed in the attack after an Ariana Grande

Speaking to Victoria, Saffie's father Andrew

said his daughter was a "huge character" who dreamed of becoming

She was so soft and gentle on the inside but just

And she wanted, you know, to be famous.

She wanted to be on stage, she wanted to be

the NHS in England recorded more than 5000 new cases of female

genital mutilation in the last year. 139 girls were under 18 at the time

of their first attendance. Almost nine out of ten of the women and

girls were born in African countries.

The Chancellor says the government needs to hold its nerve

on public sector salaries, after calls from some senior cabinet

figures to lift the 1% annual pay cap.

Speaking to business leaders, Philip Hammond said he understood

people were weary of seven years of austerity, said

that the Government shouldn't abandon its economic plan.

He insisted the "right balance" must continue to be struck

in terms of what is fair for workers and taxpayers.

A new report warns that nearly 700,000 children in England

are living in families described as "high risk".

The analysis by the Children's Commissioner, Anne Longfield,

also says many vulnerable young people struggle with abuse

It concludes that large numbers of children who need help

The BBC is to spend an extra ?30 million

on new content for children over the next three years.

As the battle for audiences increases, the BBC says more

competition from the likes of Facebook and Netflix means it

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

Oh, gosh, where am I going? Sorry. I thought I was meant to be somewhere

else in the studio and I was meant to be here. Thank you for your

comments about our previous interview about teenagers being in

solitary confinement when they are detained. This tweet from Rachel -

children in prison for 23 hours a day is Dickensian. It should not

happen ever. Do not normalise it. Jay says, seven hours of education a

week by the end would lead to prosecution of parents, so why is it

deemed acceptable for a government institute? We will get that ruling

on whether it is inhuman and degrading treatment for a

16-year-old with significant mental health problems who is in Feltham

Young offenders Institute in west London and has been held for

prolonged periods in solitary confinement. That is 23 and a half

hours a day in his cell on his own. We will get that judgment at around

10.30. Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning. And if you text, you will be charged

at the standard network rate. You showed a remarkable turn of pace

that, Victoria! How embarrassing! I am practically an athlete. Nobody

noticed, it's fine. It's a rest day for Andy Murray

after yesterday's win on Centre Court, but he's revealed

that his Wimbledon routine involves two ice baths a day

as he tries to keep on top of that hip problem that he's

been struggling with. It didn't appear to hamper him

during his straight sets win over Murray will play Germany's

Dustin Brown tomorrow. The way Dustin plays, I have to work

on my passing shots and lobs and those sorts of things, because it

will be a quite different match. He is unorthodox, but he plays more

from the net. A much easier day's

work for Johanna Konta. She beat Hsieh Su-Wei in straight

sets, avenging her first round defeat at the French Open

to the same opponent. She hurt her back during a nasty

fall last week. The women's draw is wide open

because Serena Williams is expecting her first child

in a couple of months. Her sister Venus,

a five time champion, beat the Belgian Elise Mertens

in three sets. Williams is facing a lawsuit

for wrongful death in the US after she was involved in a road

accident last month that led to the death

of a man in the other car. She was asked about the incident

following her match. There are really no words to

describe how devastating and... Yeah. I am completely speechless and

it's just... I mean, I'm just... Maybe I should go.

Venus did return to the news conference, but only two and tennis

related questions. We will see how she would bear is up when she

returns tomorrow in the second round. Today it looks like Centre

Court is the place to be again. The three time champion faces

the Slovakian Martin Klizan. Following him onto Centre Court

will be the seven time And in other sport,

the World Champion Peter Sagan won the third stage at the Tour de

France, but three time winner Chris Froome has moved up to second

in the standings behind his teammate Geraint Thomas, who still has

the leader's yellow jersey. Back with more sport

in the next hour, but you'll be getting more from Wimbledon

in the next 15 minutes. More than ?17 million has now been

raised for the victims of the Grenfell Fire,

according to research The Red Cross has been coordinating

the effort along with local But there is some concern: one local

community group told us that some survivors have received no money

from donations almost three They said "It's disgraceful that

people are having to beg." Give us an idea of where the money

has come from? Firstly, we are talking here about charity

donations. The government has also promised ?5 million in emergency

funding, which works out at ?5,500 per household. We think half of that

government money has now got through. As far as the charity money

goes, we can show you a breakdown of where the money has come from. The

largest chunk is coming from a fund called the London dispossessed fund,

run by the Evening Standard newspaper. A lot of corporate

donations, raising ?5 million in total. The Kensington and Chelsea

foundation has raised 3.4 million. They say they are still opening

checks at the moment. In terms of high-profile donations that we have

seen, and Arsenal footballer has pledged ?50 for every minute that he

was playing in the under 21 World Cup. That worked out at ?19,000.

Gary Lineker tweeted last night that he would match it, so another

?19,000 from him. We have also seen this music single put together by

Simon Cowell and other musicians, which has raised about ?671,000. The

government told us it will waive the VAT on that. All in all, an awful

lot of donations going through to people. So that is what people are

raising. Is the money getting through to those who need it? This

is where it gets complicated. Again, were talking about charity donations

only, not government donations. A family who have been hospitalised in

some way, a single payment of ?10,000. ?20,000 to a family who

have lost a family member and ?10,000 as a fresh start grant after

housing has been sorted out. So how do people get this money? They have

to apply through something called the London emergency trust. We

understand it has only had four applications for that so far. No

cash has yet been paid out through that route. Let me stop you for a

moment. There is so much information here. So the London emergency trust

is what you have to apply to to get money? That's right. And they have

received four applications. They said that is partly because people

may have other priorities at the moment, or they may be in hospital.

Or they have no idea because they have never heard of this trust. This

is the problem, survivors don't know where to turn. We spoke to one

community centre last night. The person who runs it said someone came

in last Friday lived on the 16th floor with his mum. He hadn't had

anything to weeks after the fire. He said it is disgraceful that people

are having to beg for money. When we asked that person about it, he had

only received ?500 from the government. I spoke to one survivor

last night he was in a similar situation, saying they had not seen

any charity money so far and they were having to turn to friends and

relatives for money. So from the people we are speaking to at the

moment, there is difficulty in getting it through to people on the

ground. What about other forms of fundraising? This is all included in

the 17 million we were talking about earlier. On top of the official

fundraising, we have these unofficial funding pages. Go find me

and just giving our run by commercial companies. Just giving

has 700 pages raising money for Grenfell Tower survivors. Goodness.

And there are concerns about whether that money raised will get through

to the people for whom it is meant to? The way Just Giving works, if

you are a member of the public, you can set up a page on that site and

most of the time, any money will then go through to that person's

bank account and it will be their responsibility to pass it onto

either a charity or an individual who they think needs it. We spoke to

one last night who said he had raised ?4500 in this way, and his

plan was to go down to the site, speak to survivors and relatives and

find out the best way to spend it. He said he was going to film it on

his phone and posted to his site. There is no doubt that in almost all

of these cases, people have good motivations, but are there other

right checks and balances in place? Could it be open to abuse? Because

there is no regulation of the process. Absolutely no regulation.

The Charity Commission doesn't oversee it. The fundraising

regulator doesn't oversee it. At the moment, they are looking into this

to see if it needs more protection. As the Just Giving, they say they do

put ID checks in place and they offer advice to people who run these

pages about how to pass on their money. But Just Giving is a

commercial company. They take a 5% fee of any donations. So if they

raise ?5 million, they are taking ?250,000 in fees. We asked them, are

you going to waive this free? They said in this situation, there are

not going to do that because if they do that for one cause, why not for

every other cause? It puts them in a difficult situation.

We can speak now to Sarah Atkindon, director of policy and

communications at the Charity Commission.

Also with us, Zain Miah, from the Grenfell Muslim Response Unit -

a group working on the ground offering support to survivors,

relatives and residents down at Grenfell Tower.

And Isis Amlak, vice chair of Grenfell Action Group and part

of a series of community groups that come under the banner

Hello. Good morning. Let me just ask, Zain and Isis, have you heard

of the London emergency trust? Yeah. That is the first time I have heard

of it. Do you think residents and survivors know they are supposed to

apply to the London emergency trust to get money donated very

generously? Not as far as I am aware. I was in a meeting yesterday

and that did not come up. We spoke about funding, we have concerns

about the funding. Remind our audience what the gold meeting is?

It is a process to manage the borough in an emergency. We have

different boroughs stepping in to deal with issues. Sarah Atkinson,

charities commission, how worried are you about the possibility of

some of these pages being open to abuse? It is critical that when the

public has donated that it does get through to the right places. We do

not have jurisdiction over Just Giving, it is a commercial site, but

we are working with the fundraising regulator to make sure they have

access to charitable funds to get through to the right places. Are you

worried? We are always worried that large amounts of public money raised

and get us through to the right place, the families. We have a

responsibility, the fundraising pages have a responsibility and the

individuals helping the fundraising pages, we will be working with them

to make sure the money gets to the right place. How do you react to the

fact 17 plus million has been raised, Isis, to help people of the

Grenfell Tower? That is amazing for the survivors. My concern and

certainly we raised this yesterday, there seems to be some ambiguity as

to how the money is being divided up. There is money the Government

has put in, 5 million, the money raised as donations. The Government

money as compensation money, the families apply depending on

circumstances, however, it seems to me there is a lack of clarity as to

whether all of the money has been lumped into one pot. My view is the

survivors and the evacuees, that is their money. We need to ensure there

is a transparent process to ensure they get all the money. It is not

money they should be applying for. The public have reached into their

own pockets and donated specifically to these people. How do you react to

the sum raised so far and whether it will get through to the right

people? Just as Isis mentioned, it is amazing. I think it is the

motivation behind raising this amount, we believe it is completely

genuine. We know many of the pages. What we did was we started to list

all of the different pages and we started to contact the individuals.

With the purpose of what? With the purpose of understanding, have you

reached out to a charity? Where do you foresee the money going? The

reason we did it was because on the morning of the fire, we are now the

unit, but previous to that, we were a group of friends, we were working

with families since the day of the fire, even early this morning, I was

speaking to a family, and one of the key concerns is there is a lot of

money being raised but no one has asked us, what do we need and want

and where will it go? My concern, especially from the rent for Muslim

response unit is that it is brilliant the money has been raised

but someone has to say, we have raised the money, but with the voice

of the Grenfell residents and victims, we need a structured

process in terms of where the money will go. Right now, as Sarah

mentioned, the charities commission is not in charge, ultimately, those

individuals, they can do what they want without money, effectively. But

we now need to put in play a process which allows the money to go to the

victims. I want to ask you about another issue, the recently elected

Labour MP for the area, this morning, she called for the retired

judge who is heading the public inquiry to stand on. Let us have a

listen. Do you think he should be withdrawn? Yes, I do. Within seconds

of his name being announced, everybody was on Google, looked him

up. How anybody like that could have any empathy for what these people

have been through, I just do not understand. I do not think... His

record, we need somebody we can trust. A technocrat is not really

what we need. We need somebody who can do the detail but somebody who

can understand human beings as well and what they have been through. I

have been talking to hundreds of people affected from the tower or

neighbouring or people volunteering, they need someone they can talk to.

As vice-chair of the Grenfell Action Group, Isis, do you agree? Entirely.

The judge that has been chosen does not have a background in the kind of

issues that will be pertinent to the public inquiry, he comes from a

commercial background, and to be honest, the judgment in Westminster

was really not in the interests of communities. The argument is, sorry

to interrupt, the argument is, he is very good on the detail of

engineering and technical... He is an expert in shipping. In the

crudest case, when a ship goes down, he had to work out why that

happened. There is a lot more to this and what concerns me is he

seems to be very narrow in his scope and he said so. We need quite a wide

scope because... I have called it institutional terrorism. That is the

word I have used. It has been ongoing for a number of years. As

the Grenfell Action Group, my colleague had been writing blogs and

writing to the council since 2011, constantly raising these issues. In

2016, there was a blog on the website that said, there is a fire

risk. Within a matter of months, this is what has happened. This has

to be looked at quite broadly and within the wider context of

regeneration in the area. It is more than simply an accidental fire. We

need a judge who understands that and is willing to look at it within

a wide scope. One more thing I would like to ask, if I made? There is a

new leader of the Kensington and Chelsea Borough Council. Her name is

Elizabeth Campbell. She has apologised to the people for the way

the council have handled the aftermath of the fire. Let us have a

watch. The first thing I'm going to do

is reach out to our communities The second thing I'm going to do

is to phone up Sajid Javid, the Secretary of State,

and ask for more help. I don't know at this stage

what that help will be like, But I know that the thing we need

is a plan for the community Does what she has said, does it help

restore faith in the council? I think for me what the people want to

hear is what is going to happen next. Whilst they will appreciate an

apology, what they really want to know is, why is it that when the key

worker comes down to see them, they cannot take a human approach? It is

owed tick box process where they take the information they need and

within 20 minutes, they have left. From our unit, it takes us 30 units

just to sit down and understand how they feel, let alone move on to the

assessments of what they need. What people really want, as much as an

apology, they want the council to understand we have to strip away the

processes and bureaucracy, we have to take a human approach. They would

value that war at this time than just an apology. Thank you very much

for your time. Isis, Zain and Sarah, thanks for coming on the programme.

The Government promised on this programme last week everyone

affected by the fire at Grenfell would be rehoused by tomorrow.

Tomorrow, we will find out if that has happened. Still to come... North

Korea claims to have successfully carried out its first

intercontinental ballistic missile test, a missile capable of carrying

nuclear weapons. How is the international community responding?

We will talk about that in half an hour.

The family of baby Charlie Gard have been speaking to officials in the US

after President Trump tweeted an offer of help to them.

The ten-month-old's parents lost a long legal battle to take him

to America to be treated for his rare genetic condition.

His life support had been due to be withdrawn last week

but was postponed after this appeal from his parents.

I am sure you have read in the media that they have come

out and they have said, "There is no rush, no

We are working closely with the family to arrange

We have literally begged them today to give us this weekend.

Some of our family and friends cannot come, they can't

The last time they saw Charlie will be the last

And he's still so stable, that's what's so hard.

As you can probably see on our T-shirts,

"If he's still fighting, we're still fighting," and he's

still fighting over there, believe me, he's still fighting.

He's a little fighter, little trooper, little soldier.

He will fight, he will fight to the very end,

and he is still fighting, but we are not allowed

Our parental rights have been stripped away.

We cannot even take our own son home to die.

Do you not think we have been through enough?

Our final wish, if it all went against us and we have had this

conversation many times, if we lose, can we take our little

We have been following Charlie's story for months. We can talk to

Lizzie, a former neonatal nurse. Good morning to you. Regardless of

Donald Trump's support, the Pope's support, the courts have decided the

life-support machine should be switched off and that will happen.

Yeah, exactly. No question, that is it? Yeah, I believe so. When a

European Court of Human Rights actually agrees with the other

courts that have gone through the case to make Charlie die with

dignity and comfortably, that has to be respected. It is all very well

and good the Pope and Donald Trump getting involved, but the courts

have made the decision, I know it is very hard for the parents, I get

that, but when something like this has gone to court, sadly, from my

professional point of view, ex-professional, that has to be

carried out now, I believe. How will the hospital managed the decision of

when to turn off the life-support machine? They will manage it

extremely well and they will do it very much based on Charlie's parents

and their relatives, from their video piece they did last week, it

is really important they have their family around them, and that will be

in the professionals' back of their minds to make sure that does happen

for them. It is really important they get that family support and

they will be able to have that. Certainly, as I have said before, I

am not currently nursing, but in my previous experience, when we have

had to deal with end of life care, we have made absolutely sure the

parents get everything and everyone they need around them to make this

very difficult time a little bit easier for them to bear. It is OK

for the parents to be there when the life-support is switched off?

Absolutely. In my experience, what has happened previously is that

because of the nature of the case, Charlie has been on my support for a

considerable amount of time, we know once it comes off, I suspect it

probably would not be very long before Charlie sadly passes on. If

that is the case, the nurses and doctors make sure everything

remotely medical is removed so that they are able to hold Charlie,

cuddle him, to make sure the last few minutes or hours... I cannot

possibly comment as to how long it would be, but I get the impression

it would be relatively quick in Charlie's case. To make it as

bearable as possible for the parents, they would make sure

everything medical is away and they would just be able to cuddle her

baby. Can you think from your own experience over years as to why a

baby would not be allowed to go home to die? In all the cases I looked

after the end of life care, not one of them went home, actually, and

that was purely because of the nature of how long it will actually

take for the young child to die. Should that be the parents'

decision? It is tricky because Charlie has been in hospital for a

very long time and I suspect to try to get Charlie home with everything

that would be required to get him home, to remove the support, it

would be tricky for the professionals at great Ormond Street

and I think for this particular case, I think it is better Charlie

is left in hospital, but as long as his parents and family are around

him, and also, you have to consider, certainly from my point of view as a

parent as well as ex-professional nurse, I would not want that memory

of having to lose my child at home, if I am honest. I would not want to

have that memory in the house. But Charlie's parents did want him home.

Thank you, I appreciate you have a different view. That is the way it

goes. It is, thank you. Thank you, former neonatal nurse.

Snapchat's new feature which lets you see where all your

friends are on a map - it's got a lot of mums and dads

worried it could lead to their child being stalked or bullied -

we'll speak to parents and charities about their concerns.

And the father of the youngest victim of the Manchester Arena

terror attack, Saffie Roussos, tells us why telling the world

about her is his way of helping fulfil her childhood

With the news, here's Joanna in the BBC newsroom.

North Korea says it has successfully tested a long-range

intercontinental missile, which could potentially have

The US said it did not pose a threat to North America.

Pictures were released of the country's dictator,

Kim Jong-un, watching on, amid growing tension over

the increased frequency of the country's missile tests.

A plan to revolutionise the treatment that cancer patients

receive through individually mapping their DNA is being proposed

by the Chief Medical Officer for England.

The proposals would mean millions of patients would have treatments

that were directly targeted at the particular strain

The cost of mapping has also been factored in.

The father of the youngest Manchester terror attack victim,

Saffie Roussos, has paid tribute to his "stunning" daughter,

on what would have been her ninth birthday.

Saffie was one of 22 people killed in the attack after an Ariana Grande

Speaking to Victoria, Saffie's father Andrew

said his daughter was a "huge character" who dreamed of becoming

The Chancellor says the government needs to hold its nerve

on public sector salaries, after calls from some senior cabinet

figures to lift the 1% annual pay cap.

Speaking to business leaders, Philip Hammond said he understood

people were weary of seven years of austerity, said

that the Government shouldn't abandon its economic plan.

He insisted the "right balance" must continue to be struck

in terms of what is fair for workers and taxpayers.

The NHS in England recorded more than 5,000 new cases of female

It's only the second time annual figures have been published.

Almost nine out of ten of the women and girls were born

A new report warns that nearly 700,000 children in England

are living in families described as "high risk".

The analysis by the Children's Commissioner, Anne Longfield,

also says many vulnerable young people struggle with abuse

It concludes that large numbers of children who need help

Join me for BBC Newsroom Live at 11am.

It's the second day of Wimbledon, a rest day for Andy Murray

after his first round victory on Centre Court.

He beat Alexander Bublik in straight sets and will play

Johanna Konta, Heather Watson and Aljaz Bedene were the other

Five time champion Venus Williams is also

through, but broke down during her news conference.

She was answering questions about a fatal car crash last month

in Florida and she is facing a lawsuit for wrongful death.

The three time champion faces the Slovakian Martin Klizan.

Following him onto Centre Court will be the seven time

And in other sport, the world champion Peter Sagan won

the third stage at the Tour de France, but three time winner

Chris Froome has moved up to second in the standings behind his teammate

Geraint Thomas, who still has the leader's yellow jersey.

I'll be back with more sport after 11 on BBC News.

Snapchat has introduced a new feature called Snap Maps

which allows users to track each other's movements in real time -

but charities and parents are warning that highlighting children's

It also means people can search for places such as schools and see

the videos and pictures posted by children inside.

Let's talk to Eugenie Aguado, who has a 12-year-old

daughter who uses Snapchat, Sarah Moffatt, whose

16-year-old son uses Snapchat, Emily Cherry, from the NSPCC,

Rachel Griffin, Chief Executive of the Suzy Lamplugh Trust,

Marc Prioleau, who developed the technology for Snap Map,

and Lara Lewington, technology correspondent from the BBC's Click

Let me start with you, Lara, to explain how it works? Just under two

weeks ago, the latest update to Snapchat include this function

called Snap Map. This is an opt in function. You have to choose to use

it. If you do, you can pinch the screen and see where your friends

are and they can see where you are if you give access to all of them.

You will also be represented by what they are calling an action moji to

show what you are doing. That is based on the location you are in and

the accelerometer in your phone which is tracking your movement. If

you are moving faster than you are walking, the chances are that you

are in a car. If you are in an airport, maybe you are wheeling a

case. It will indicate what you possibly look like at that moment as

well as where you are. Why would Snapchat do this? They say it is to

give people an idea of what is going on, see what their friends are

up to and inspire adventure. I know the answer to this because my son

has done it. You can put it on ghost mode, which means what? That means

you would be invisible, but you could still what your friends who

don't wish to be invisible. Sarah, you have four boys including a

16-year-old who uses Snapchat. Does he use this new feature and what do

you make of it? Yes, he does use it and I think it is horrendous. Why? I

don't think it is safe, firstly. I don't understand the need for

children to know exactly where their friends are at all moments of the

day. But it is not just their friends that can do that. If they

accept a request from a stranger, which kids do, that person also

knows where they are. Eugenie, your 12-year-old is using Snap Map at the

moment. What do you think of that? Yes, I was just aware of this new

feature yesterday and as soon as she arrived from school, I asked her to

show me to go in ghost mode. I don't see the need for anyone to track her

movements, other than me. I think that is extreme. I don't see the

point in everybody seeing if she is at the school or at the gym or

whichever activity. As was already pointed out, children can accept

people that they don't know as their friends on these social apps. Then

there may be a friend of a friend of a friend that we don't know who they

are. Why do they need to see where they are? I see the fun part, maybe.

But I see many negative things that can happen from this feature. Rachel

Griffin from the Suzy Lamplugh trust, do you only see negative

things here? Unfortunately, yes. On the national stalking helpline, we

talk to a loss of people who we are advised to change their habits. A

stalker who is obsessed with somebody will often use their habits

to build up a picture of where they are to facilitate that stalking. We

are concerned about children, obviously, but many adults phone up

the helpline every day and it is incredibly important that we are

aware of the information we are putting out which could be used for

ill in the wrong hands. And as a representative of the NSPCC, Emily

Cherry, what is your view? This highlights the need for social media

companies and any online industry to do much more to keep children safe

online. Our research shows four out of five children think the industry

has to take more responsibility and not place it all on children and

parents. We also hear from parents calling our online safety helpline.

If it's of them do not feel able to talk to their children about the

sites, games and apps they are using. Much more needs to be done.

Let's bring in Mark, who developed this technology. You are not a

representative from Snapchat, to make that clear. But what was the

thinking behind this? Just to be clear, I work for a company called

map box which develops mapping technologies which are used by a

number of different applications like CNN. Typically, as the world

has got more mobile, maps are one way to show what is going on. I

couldn't speak for any specific app on all the thinking that is going on

but clearly, Snapchat is a very engaging application. They were

looking for ways for their users to engage in social communities. But

you can see that this technology can be used for ill, can't you? Sure.

Any application like Snapchat has to deal with privacy issues. And they

all deal with that in different ways. The best practice is to make

very clear what the privacy policies are and to give the user is a clear

ability to opt in and out. That is where our customers make decisions

about that. Lara, Snapchat declined to join us today, but you have a

statement from them. Yes, I spoke to them. They said "The safety of our

community is important and we want to make sure that all users have

accurate information about how the snap map works. With Snap Map,

location Sherry is off by default for all users and is completely

optional. Snapchatters can choose exactly who they want to share their

location with if at all and can change that setting at any time.

It's also not possible to share your location with someone who isn't

already your friend on Snapchat. The majority of interactions on Snapchat

take place between close friends". They take place between close

friends. But you can accept the chain of a friend of a friend of a

friend and they are not necessarily close friends come as Snapchat

claims. It is hard to police. We are at this point where people want

things now, because you can have things now in many ways. You don't

have to wait for a mini cab the way you used to in the past. What has

been added to that is the here and now element. Last week, I covered

something on Click that was a food waste app. And that was location

based. It was about what food you could get near to you at that

moment. We are getting very used to this idea that we can have things

here and now. That is what this app is offering. At the same time, as a

parent, we are the first generation of learning how to cope with this

for our kids. So the technology is there, but I am not sure everybody

knows how to manage it and that is why we are getting these issues.

Eugenie, you have already said your daughter is an ghost mode. And

Sarah, your 16-year-old, you are insisting on that or does he not

want to be an ghost mode? He is not an ghost mode. And as much as I may

try to make him go an ghost mode, it's not going to happen. This is

the problem. People talk about responsibility and Snapchat have

said you can go into ghost mode and opt in or opt out. I don't know many

teenagers that will opt out if all of their friends are doing it. Well,

it's up to parents, then, isn't it? And the social media companies. That

is a fair point. What would you specifically want Snapchat to do on

this? We want any child under the age of 18 to have their privacy

settings at the highest level of security as default on all

platforms. We also need them to have more things like bullying alerts and

grooming alerts so that they invest in the technology to pick up on

those behaviours and report them. We also need an army of moderators to

be hard across all social media platforms so that they can pick up

on those behaviours and keep children safe online. Thank you all

for coming on the programme. In a few minutes' time,

the father of the youngest victim of the Manchester Arena

terror attack speaks about losing his daughter, Saffie Roussos,

who would have turned nine today. We will bring you a little bit more

from that moving interview before the end of the programme.

North Korea says it has successfully tested a long-range

It is the first time the country has claimed to have successfully

tested such a missile, which could potentially have

Aidan Foster Carter is a freelance writer, consultant and broadcaster

on North Korea and joins me on Skype now.

Hello. Good morning. How do you react? Not exactly surprised. Since

Kim Newman came to power, he is now in his sixth leader, and this year

in particular, he has ramped up the pace of testing. I think it is six

alone in the control of months since the new South Korean president who

would like to revive dialogue, since he took office. He seems

unstoppable. Pretty much every week... I seem to be talking to

someone like you every week! Are we becoming immune to it? Do we need to

worry? To make what I hope there's not a totally false link, I think I

worry more about Snapchat in a way! That is interesting, if you mean

that, it puts it in perspective. There are threats woven into the

fabric of our modern 21st-century lives, things people of my

generation never thought about, they are insidious, the other side of the

calling of things that give wonderful opportunity and knowledge,

and then in some other part of the forest, there is this young leader

behaving like a James Bond villain, taking no notice, ignoring

everybody, including his allies, China and so on. It clearly is a

risk when a country is defying endless UN resolutions. But the way

we have approached it so far, tightening the screws further, it

does not seem to work. His tests are working very well. The Chinese just

had a big north -- big rocket fail. I think sooner or later, diplomacy

of some sort what does he want? We have find out. Can you see President

Trump leading the diplomatic effort? Funnily enough, I can. Trump go,

goodness knows, one can say many things, not all of them printable.

He can flip either way on many issues. The unpredictability is not

always a good thing. North Korea, mostly we have had tension raising

and language of the kind bad enough to come from North Korea, not

expected from Washington. But there is the Trott who says he can sit

down over a burger with Kim Jong-un. In fact, Trump explicitly endorsed

when the president was in Washington recently that North- South Korean

talks could start again. I think unlikely as it seems, a test like

this reminds us always of what a threat North Korea is, but at some

point, some larger initiative, involving all of the powers, China

and Japan on board as well, and get some kind of talks going. Sorry to

interrupt, let us imagine a day when those talks begin, what is it North