05/07/2017 Victoria Derbyshire

We are already going through the crisis, the trauma. How much more do

we need to bend back? Almost all of the men, women and children affected

by the fire are still living in hotel rooms. Some are worried that

if they take up the offer it might jeopardise the chances of getting a

new build expensive flat in the heart of Kensington. We also hear

that black people are being felled by the mental health system because

of institutional racism. Being placed in those four walls was one

of the most during things they could have done.

We will get reaction and your reaction

I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme.

Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11.

Over the next two hours we'll bring you the latest breaking news

and developing stories - a little later we'll

hear from one woman - who was stalked over

a period of five years - in that time she made over 125

complaints to police - who did little.

Her stalker has now been jailed for life for her attempted murder.

It comes as a new report says too often police

Really keen to hear your experiences this morning -

if you've been stalked - how were you treated by police?

Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

Victims of harassment and stalking in England and Wales are being left

at risk because of failings by police and prosecutors,

Two watchdogs found that crimes weren't being recorded,

investigations were poorly conducted and legal protection wasn't

They examined 112 cases in detail and concluded that none had

Officers and prosecutors were identifying cases in isolation,

whereas by its very nature, both stalking and harassment occurs

as a result of really pernicious and persistent offending.

And officers and prosecutors were missing that, which meant that

Our Home Affairs Correspondent, Danny Shaw, is in the studio.

This is not good, is it? It is a terrible report, really, and it

shows failings at every stage of the criminal justice process, from the

moment that an allegation of harassment or stalking is made,

those crimes are not being reported or recorded properly, sometimes not

being recorded at all. Victims are not being dealt with properly, risk

assessment are being done and investigations aren't being carried

out properly. One of the most disturbing findings from this report

is that it says there is concrete evidence that police are issuing

warnings the perpetrators, rather than conducting thorough

investigations, these are called police information notices. So they

are kind of slapping these warnings on and thinking that is it, case

done, rather than actually investigating the case and

potentially bringing criminal charges, which could obviously lead

to a much higher punishment. And so the recommendations? In terms of

those warnings is that that whole system should be overhauled. There

are a whole raft of other recommendations in terms of

improving training, making officers more aware of the powers that they

have and increasing understanding amongst police and prosecutors that

they don't treat a stalking offence in isolation, but see it as part of

a pattern of a series of incidents is. Danny Shaw is our home affairs

correspondent and we will talk more about that later on in the

programme. If you have experience of stalking and you contacted the

police, let us know how you were treated. The rest of the morning's

news with Joanna. Most of the families

who lost their homes in the Grenfell Tower fire

are still living in hotels - despite government pledges

to rehouse them all by today. There was anger and frustration

at a meeting with police and the Westminster Coroner last

night, where residents demanded to know why

there have been no arrests. The coroner is said to have

described the scene inside This was the first opportunity

for families to put their questions directly to police and

the Westminster coroner. One reason this private meeting

lasted more than 3.5 hours. It's understood relatives

were told in graphic detail the challenge

that forensic teams are facing

in even trying to find DNA They say the information

they are getting isn't good enough. We personally asked,

where is our family? We want to know, is our families'

bodies still there? Whatever it is, we want to know

exactly what it is, And the answers that

were coming back were, "We don't know, we don't

know, we don't know." Today is the deadline

set by Theresa May to rehouse the 158 families made

homeless by the disaster. According to the Grenfell response

team, that target has been met, with 139 formal offers made,

but just nine have been accepted. Lawyers for survivors say most

of the accommodation is Three weeks after the tragedy,

police still maintain their investigation will be

exhaustive and will bring the answers that the families

desperately deserve, Police repeatedly failed a disabled

refugee who sought the help before being murdered in Bristol for years

ago, according to a report by the Independent Police Complaints

Commission. Bijan Ebrahimi made dozens of calls to police, with

threats to kill. He was eventually beaten to death by a neighbour, who

wrongly believed he was a paedophile. They then and Somerset

police say they have made changes and have apologised to his family.

He told police dozens of times that his life was in danger.

What part of 'be quiet' do you not understand?

Now a report says that over several years, the Iranian refugee

was repeatedly failed by Avon and Somerset police, treated

In 2013, he was beaten to death by a neighbour outside his flat

The Independent Police Complaints Commission says

there were systematic failures in the way he was dealt with.

Today's report runs to hundreds of pages and it says this whole case

has laid bare what it calls the disrespect, the prejudice

and even contempt with which some officers and staff treated

Bijan Ebrahimi in the days before he was murdered here.

Reading that report and just coming to terms with what happened

He always thought that he is in a country that police

And he couldn't see anything beyond that.

Last year, PC Kevin Duffy and community support officer

Andrew Passmore were jailed, after being convicted

PC's Leanne Winter and Helen Harris ere cleared by the jury,

but were later sacked by a misconduct hearing.

We accept that we failed Bijan Ebrahimi at his time

of greatest need and throughout that time, he was respectful

and he had confidence and trust in us, the police.

And we let him down and for that, we are sorry.

Avon and Somerset Police say they have improved the way

that they deal with vulnerable people as a result of this case.

Bijan's sisters are still waiting for the local council's report.

There are calls for the government to overhaul its approach to mental

health to halt the trend of over-representation of black

The think tank - the Centre for Mental Health -

says black people are being failed because of "institutional racism".

The Department of Health says it wants to make sure that everyone,

regardless of ethnicity, age or background, gets

And we'll have more on this story at around half past nine.

The United States has confirmed that a weapon fired into the Sea

of Japan by North Korea was an intercontinental

The North Korean leader -- Kim Jong-Un -- described the test

as a gift to the Americans on their day of independence.

The US and South Korea have jointly warned the North that war

In Saudi Arabia being the biggest promoter obviously missed extremism

in the UK. A study by the right of centre foreign policy think tank the

Henry Jackson Society has singled out Qatar as a centre for coders.

A study says victims from -- students from the poorest

backgrounds will leave university with ?57,000 of debt. The report

from the European Institute for Fiscal Studies says most graduates

will still be paying off student loans into their 50s and three

quarters will never clear the debt. The government says those from

poorer backgrounds are going to university at a record rate, up 40%

since 2009. Experts are warning that a new generation of lifelike sex

robots could lead to ethical risks and the objectification of women. A

report for the foundation of responsible robotics is that whilst

the sidewalks could provide a valuable source of companionship for

the elderly or disabled they could also be used to satisfy desires that

would otherwise be illegal. The report also raises concerns that

female versions are based on representations garnered from

pornography. That is a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 930. I

knew a student with ?50,000 worth of debt from your student days? If so,

let me know. That is the normal apparently, 50 K. As you know, you

start paying it back when you earn a salary of ?21,000, and the interest

charged does not increase until your salary reaches ?41,000.

Comprehensive analysis by the ISS shows that most people will not

repay that debt. The interest rate is due to go up in the autumn. It is

for .6% at the moment, it is due to go up to 6.1%. So if you have that

kind of debt, tell us how it is impacting you, or if you find the

payment of whatever it is, 70 quid a month, depending on what you own, is

absolutely doable. Let me know, we will talk about that at about

quarter to ten. Now a bit of sport with Tim Hague.

The second round of Wimbledon begins today with Andy Murray taking on

Germany's Dustin Brown, but the big talking point yesterday was the

number of players pulling out of their first-round matches, they

still earn ?35,000 for turning up, and while Novak Djokovic and Roger

Federer say it could be time to change the reels, Martin Klizan

lasted only 40 minutes against Djokovic before his calf injury

proved too much. Federer's match didn't last much longer. Alexandr

Dolgopolov was forced off with an ankle injury. The seven time

champion and Djokovic joked they should go out and play a practice

match because they have had so little time on court. Away from the

tennis, Mark Cavendish is out of the Tour de France after a crash at the

end of yesterday's fourth stage. The Briton broke his shoulder after

appearing to be elbowed by watch a Peter Sagan, who was subsequently

disqualified but is appealing that decision. Rangers suffered one of

the worst of it in their history last night, leading 1-0 from the

first leg at Ibrox, they were knocked out of the Europa League by

a part-time team from Luxembourg, losing 2-0 on the night, 2-1 on

aggregate. I will be back with more sport in the next hour. Victoria,

you will be having your daily Wimbledon catch up at around 9:30am.

It's three weeks since the fire at Grenfell Tower

in North Kensington, which killed at least 80 people and left

On this programme exactly a week ago, the Housing Minister made it

very clear that temporary homes WOULD be offered to everyone

Today, we're back here in North Kensington to catch up

with some of those we first met on that Wednesday.

To bring you more remarkable stories of those who escaped, and to find

It's constantly we're expected to chase things,

go here, phone this, queue here, do that.

It's no surprise to me at all that you have an empty chair there,

having worked on the Council for 11 years, the depth of incompetence

You'll notice that we've a couple of chairs here now, empty chairs.

This is a photograph of the leader of Kensington

and Chelsea Borough Council, that's Nick Paget-Brown.

So I'm asking you respectfully, check your moral compass.

Then you will gain the respect and understanding of these people.

What I need to know, people are struggling

And the problem that we have is that we now know there is a price

The housing minister, I'm told, is here, his name is Alok Sharma

and he has agreed to be with us today after pressure from residents.

So I know you have questions for him.

Thank you very much for giving us your time today.

Why is it OK that there are thousands of empty

homes right in this area, and these people are homeless?

Olu does not want temporary accommodation, he wants

permanent accommodation, he wants good permanent

You created it to save money, to keep money in your pocket,

Can you please be specific as to what package you are offering

in terms of housing, rehousing the residents

And be specific, please, without the flowery words.

Let the minister speak, hear what he is committing to.

Please let us know what your commitment is.

So what we've committed to, is, is anyone whose home has been

destroyed, will be housed by next Wednesday in good accommodation,

and then we will work with, and in housing

So what we are not going to do is, you are offered a home,

you don't like it and you're still asked to go in,

139 families have been offered temporary homes. Only 14 have been

accepted. We've been spending time with the

family. He has been offered a temporary home, he explains why he

turned it down. So when we last spoke, you were

staying in a hotel in Paddington. I'm staying at a friend's house,

which is on the ground floor. The room was too

small for four of us. Last week on our programme,

you met the housing minister, and I understand you went

to Westwood to have Not his best, actually,

he said I would be made an offer by next Wednesday,

which is technically I was offered a property

which is outside the borough. And it's a bigger property

than my initial one, which effectively means

I'm paying more rent. No, I declined it, because it feels

like I'm being offered It's not within the borough

or the area where we feel safe. To get out of an area I have known

for over 25 years is hard. If someone said that you need to be

more flexible in terms of the housing you choose,

what would you say to them? I'm trying to be as flexible

as I can already. We're already going through

undignified struggle, How much more do we need

to bend our back before the local authority start pulling

up their socks and start doing what they're supposed to be doing

for the citizens of this country? In terms of getting rehoused,

what is the next step? What more can I do directly

for my family other than sit down with the Secretary of State and say

look, and the minister for housing, Would you like to meet

with the minister again, I would say the same thing

I said when I met him. We do not need temporary

accommodation. You do not need to put me

and my family in a hotel. Meet our needs, or just

tell the truth, that If you can't meet the

requirements, it's simple. If you can't do it,

tell us the truth. Mahad Egal isn't alone -

almost all of the men, women and children affected

by the fire still A leaked government letter seen

by this programme suggests some are worried if they take up

the offer it might jeapordisde their chances of getting a new luxury flat

in the heart of Kensington. Our reporter Jim Reed has

been looking into this. The authorities say they have

contacted every single household. 158 Housing assessment is taking

place. 139 have been offered some form of temporary accommodation. Not

permanent accommodation. Six months sorry to help get people back on

their feet. Just 14 have accepted that offer. The kind of

accommodation. Two bedroom flat in Chelsea. Viewed by one of the

families earlier this week. We understand under the terms of the

arrangement, the government and local council has said all rent,

council tax bills will be paid for after 12 months, after 12 months

they will be expected to pay a standard social rent on the

property. Let's go through the reasons why they're not taking up

the offers. We spoke to around 20 survivors yesterday. Most people are

saying it is because of the distance away from North Kensington, that

they are offered a place. A lot of cases in different fathers. People

telling us they want to stay close to the local community. They know

people there, their kids may be in school. A wider issue, and distrust

of the authorities. Particularly Kensington and Chelsea Council.

People think if they take the temporary accommodation outside the

borough, they may never get back to the area they know.

People were told they would be offered 68 flats in the development

called Kensington Road. On the open market these flats go for well north

of ?1 million each. It appears that by offering these comets may be

deterring people from taking temporary accommodation. We have

seen a letter from Sajid Javid to residents. He says, I know some of

you are worried about accepting temporary accommodation in case it

reduces chances of being offered permanent housing, or the houses are

Kensington Row. When we spoke to people, this

did not come up. Certainly a concern for the government. Why can't the

local council provide more flats, homes near the tower itself? This

comes down to the wider question around social and council housing

stock. There are zero social houses available in this borough. We were

told because they are all being reserved, for the ones are being

reserved. Even then, just not enough houses in the borough. 2781 people

in that borough alone on the council house waiting list. We think between

ten years, they have created an extra 690 places. One of the lowest

rates in the whole of London. Real difference between people who want

to get a council house in the borough, and the amount available.

That is why it is so difficult to rehouse people locally. Anything

else that can be done? The new Labour MP said this yesterday, the

council to go out and buy new properties available. It is

available. There are 143 houses for sale and a half million pounds in

Kensington and Chelsea County. The council as ?300 million. The problem

is the size of the houses. Only 19 of those 143 are two bedroom and

above. How useful they would be for see larger families very debatable.

Some of you feel ingratitude is being shown by some of the former

Grenfell Tower residents. John saying that. The council working

hard to rehouse them. You cannot manufacture houses. Bars says the

straight with the survivors, the temporary accommodation is out of

the area. I understand this is not realistic to rehouse all of them are

Kensington, they need to at least offer property of the same red. --

rent. We are now hearing the government will sending a task force

to take over parts of Kensington and Chelsea Council.

Let's talk now to Chebiouni Salah, he lived on the ninth floor

His brother in law, his wife, and their children were on the 23rd

- Chebiouni, you escaped with your family from the ninth

floor and now you need housing for four of you?

Temporary accommodation. Where was that, what was it like? The last one

was only Holland Road. In the basement. We refuse that one. Did

you go and look at it? Holland Park Road is quite close to where you

are. Certainly nearer than Westminster, and Pimlico. Quite

close, but temporary. I don't want the temporary first I am already in

temporary accommodation, in the hotel. What is it like living in the

hotel with your family? Like hell. I am stuck in the four corners. You

said it is like hell. I cannot speak it is too

frustrating. Three beds, four of us in there. Clearly you are prepared

to stay in that hotel room, and wait for something permanent to come up.

Even though that might take months? Even if it took months or years I

would stay there. I don't care. I lost my flat, five members of my

family, I have nothing to lose. I will stay there until they give me a

permanent fluxes what do you say is the small number of people

suggesting there is an element of ingratitude. You are not accepting

this temporary accommodation? I lost everything. They have lost nothing.

They are just talking. I am living in hell, not them. They should walk

in your shoes. That is the right thing to say. Thank you very much

for talking to us. We appreciate your time.

Living in a hotel room with four people, in three beds. Despite that

being hell, he would rather wait there for something permanent to be

offered. Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of todays news. Victims of harassment and stalking

in England and Wales are being left at risk because of failings

by police and prosecutors, Two watchdogs found that crimes

weren't being recorded, investigations were poorly conducted

and legal protection wasn't They examined 112 cases in detail

and concluded that none had The United States and South Korea

have jointly warned North Korea that The majority of survivors of the

Grenfell Tower fire remain in hotels despite the deadline offered by the

Prime Minister to rehouse everyone in temporary accommodation. Victims

expressed frustration in a meeting with ministers and councillors. Avon

and Somerset Police have admitted they repeatedly failed refugee he

was beaten to in Bristol. The report by the watchdog says officers is

responding poorly when he asked for help in the years before he was

murdered. The force says it has made changes, and apologised to his

family. The United States and South Korea

have jointly warned North Korea that war cannot be ruled out,

following Pyongyang's intercontinental ballistic

missile test yesterday. The two countries top officers based

in South Korea said self restraint was a choice,

which could change at any time. The North Korean leader,

Kim Jong-Un, described the test as a gift to the Americans

on their day of independence. A study says students from the

poorest backgrounds will leave university with ?57,000 worth of

debt. The report by the Institute for Fiscal Studies says most

graduates will be paying off student loans into the 50s, and three

quarters will never pay off the debt. The government says students

from poorer backgrounds are going to University a record rate.

Amy says, I have just completed a five-year course studying veterinary

science. I have loans of nearly ?70,000. I will have to earn ?48,000

before I pay off anything other than the interest. This is below the

average wage in my profession. I will not pay off my loan. I see it

as a feed. I will have two paid to do the job I want to do. I hope the

government do not change the terms causing me to pay off an affordable

instalments. Noah says, I will keep this short. This is incredibly hard

to pay for I am relying I parents. My student loan debt is 28,000 820.

For an undergraduate degree course. Jewish and costs were ?3000. Did a

Masters in science. I needed a career development loan of ?4000

whilst working part-time. I'm doing a Ph.D. With a ?13,000, over one

grand a month. I have to pay monthly for the career development loan.

After rent a ?500 I have so little left for food and normal costs I

have absolutely no savings. I have overdrafts. I hope you can let

people know how difficult this is. We would talk more about student

debt in the next half-hour, your very welcome.

Let's head to Wimbledon now, and talk to Sally Nugent -

and the main talking point there seems to be not so much

about tennis but a lack of it - players earning ?35,000

for about 40 minutes work - what's been going on?

Who knew? Actually everybody here knew about it because it is a very

particular Wimbledon rule. Having yesterday, the two retirements on

centre court, in the Djokovic and Federer match, their opponents both

retired because of an injury. This was hugely disappointing for the

crowd, because you come here and you expect to see two great whopping

great matches yesterday, and actually their opponents both

retired with an injury. A lot of talk in the press about the fact

that they are coming on the court potentially knowing they are

injured, knowing they are not 100% fit but wanting to play the match

because, guess what, you earn ?35,000 just doing what they did

yesterday. I heard Pat Cash yesterday, from all the modern

winner, talking about not being the rules. If you were offered a chance

to come out and have a go, you don't know what will happen to Roger

Federer, you might slip and fall over on his way to the match, you

don't know what will happen to Djokovic, so you can't blame for

having a go. If you are a Premier League football and injured, you are

still earning money, so I think it is perhaps something when Wood and

will have to look at. Both Novak Djokovic and Roger Federer have said

it is probably time to change the rules, or certainly to look at them

to potentially reward players who are injured right at the last-minute

to come play the match. Let's talk about today's play, Andy Murray

seems to be OK, injury wise, what about the other British players?

Andy Murray does seem OK, doesn't it, so far, so good. I will talk to

Alex Ward, who was one of the British players. He played

yesterday. You lost yesterday against Kyle Edmund, but you had a

true Mendis experience here. It was your mum's 60th birthday, we had

your mum on the programme and she was obviously just so proud to see

you here and playing. She is a bit of fans favourite, I have had quite

a bit of messages, it was a great occasion on her birthday and I think

I did her proud. And of course you come here and you earn your money

and play your game, which is great for someone like you, you really are

working hard and working the circuit, it is important you make

that money. That money is massive, anybody who was outside the world

top 50, that money can be a massive benefit to invest in tennis. Let's

talk about today, Andy Murray seems OK, but he is playing Dustin Brown.

Tell us what you know about him. I have played him, I beat him in

Germany a couple of years back and he is really up and down, you really

don't know what you will get. I am sure he will hit some ridiculous

shots today, he has all sorts of tricks, but I think Andy will pull

through. He is playing better now. He will be solid. The he is a real

fans favourite. Jo Konta is playing today, she has quite a tough match,

Donna Vekic Chester they played in the final, and -- in Nottingham, and

Donna Vekic won. Heather has a tough seed, a Latvian girl who likes the

grass. Aljaz Bedene as well. He played a great match against

Karlovic the other day, I watched it but I think it will recover and get

through today. Thank you for bearing with us for that now a traditional

fire alarm during the Victoria Derbyshire sport bulletin. I should

tell you, I can't show you because of our camera angles, we are right

next to the Royal Box here, and they have special cushions. Do they?

Describe them. Looks very comfortable. Can you not grab one?

Can we show the cushions? A little look. There we go. My cameraman will

kill me for this, showing his workings. They don't look that

comfort? They are a lot comfier than these, I can tell you! LAUGHTER

I wouldn't complain. It is good to know that the emergency procedures

are working as well as they were 24 hours ago. It is nearly 20 to ten,

welcome to the programme. Are black people being failed

by the mental health system If you're a black man,

you're 17 times more to be diagnosed with a serious

mental health condition If you're black, you're also four

times more likely to be sectioned. Our reporter Isaac Fanin

has been investigating Our reporter Isaac Fanin has

been investigating. My name is Eche Ogbuono and I've

been sectioned once under I was expecting to go

to the hospital but in actual fact they took me to the police station,

a police cell. My name is Maitreya al-Eboni

and I've been sectioned by the mental health service twice

in the last six years. I wasn't made aware that

I was being sectioned and no one could give me any clarity

as to what was taking place. Being placed in those four walls

was one of the most damaging things that they could have done in that

state of mind that I was in. This year in the UK,

at least one in four adults will be affected

by the mental health condition affected by a mental health

condition but it is black people

who are disproportionately affected. They are more likely to be sectioned

under the 1983 Mental Health Act. And a black man is 17 more times

likely than a white man to be diagnosed with a serious mental

health conditions, such as Eche has bipolar disorder,

and was initially detained under section 186 of the Mental Health

Act. This part of the law gives

the police the power to detain a person for 72 hours if they feel

they are either in immediate need of care or control,

or if it's in the interests of the person or for

the protection of other people. According to the rules of the act,

the individual is to be taken to a place of safety,

usually a hospital, for assessment. But in Eche's case he was taken

to a police station. He was then moved to a hospital,

before being discharged. Section two of the Mental Health Act

allows a person to be detained for longer,

up to 28 days. After being released,

there was an altercation at his home a few days later that led

to his parents calling the police. There was a knock on the door,

it was the police once again, and I'm in my room and I'm

like, you know what, The first time I was compliant

and so they were like, section two, 28 days,

you have to go back there. Physically they tried to get me

down, that didn't work, so they brought the Taser

out, 50,000 volts. And before I know it I'm

back in the handcuffs. Back in hospital to remove the Taser

hook and then before you know And those experiences

with the police and the Taser Of the system in general, as it felt

like a prison-like experience. I felt like a criminal,

I didn't have my freedom any more, how do you want me to now engage

with this system? The matter of black

over-representation within the mental

health system is a complex one. Issues like unemployment and poverty

play a part in the inequality but it is stories like Eche's

which partly go towards fostering the stigma that mental health has

within the black community. Everybody's saying oh,

we're going to get this all right for Lambeth in London

which is the borough with the biggest black

population in the country. She's also the vice-chair

on the government mental They are going into the system

in the most coercive way, and then, what is the sort of stories that

permeate throughout the community, is that you die if you go

into those institutions. It's not that you get

recovery, it's that you die. But that leads to black

people presenting later? So what we have to do

is change that story. We have to change the narrative

by actually changing the services. Of course, mental health is not just

confined to black people, the experience of mental health

can affect anyone. But why do you think black people

are so disproportionately affected? What we find is that there's

a differential experience. These I might describe as sort

of like structural inequalities of where unconscious bias,

institutional racism, whatever you are more comfortable

with in terms of terminology, which means that decisions that

are made throughout these structures, sort of bias

the experience of those communities. And that, compounded

with its relationship with one sort of multiple characteristics,

compounds somebody's experience and makes them more vulnereable

to having mental health Just that feature alone,

you've got 18-24 year olds, young black men that are not

in education, employment or training, 58% not in education,

employment or training. It's a kind of indicator

that actually if two of the group are experiencing that

sort of level of exclusion, then they are seriously vulnerable

towards mental health challenges. I mean, you've had Stormzy talking

about it quite a lot Lorraine Khan is an associate

director at the Centre They've produced a report calling

for a radical shift in the way the government deals with black

and ethnic minorities I think there is a problem

with institutional racism in the way that we take action

and try to improve things because this problem doesn't affect

the majority of people who live And I think therefore it

becomes a minority issue as far as commissioners

are concerned as well. We find that there is not

the investment in research to try and improve the programmes that

young men and women say that they want because equally

there's not that investment, it's not considered the priority,

and the priority tends to be, all the services tend to be geared

towards white people. You know, the impact

of day-to-day experiences of discrimination and racism,

what they call micro-aggressions in research, you know,

what that means is, if you go into a shop you are followed around

because somebody thinks you are going to be taking

something, or you are seen It's that experience that we know

from research has a wear and tear effect on young men

on a day-to-day basis. And their stress levels

we know are kind of elevated as a result

of that And it's a bit like

over-revving a car engine. After a while you have

a kind of burn-out. And what we know happens

is in their mid-20s to early 30s is this sort of greater sudden

presentation with crisis difficulties in terms

of mental health. The NHS's most recent national

survey on adult mental health found that black people with mental health

symptoms were less likely to be recognised

by mental health services. Maitreya is a singer-songwriter

who has battled with mental health problems caused by a physical

condition she has. She has been sectioned twice

in the past few weeks and was diagnosed with psychosis,

something she denies. She told me that last year,

when she really needed help, she found it difficult to access

mental health care from the NHS. I found it very difficult

because I was actually trying to tell them,

I feel very much How did you try, did

you go to the GP? But it's like, in trying to call out

for help, it's like, they didn't see it as a serious kind

of thing at a time. And it's like, how do you not

see that as serious? And it did kind of make me feel,

because it's like, OK, what does it actually takes to get

the help you need? Do you think the experience

you went through contributed I do, because I still

don't feel like I've got But it's made me just

lose trust in the mental health service because,

like I said, when I needed Now I've gone through a whole

process of being sectioned, and I need more help to deal

with the trauma that I've just gone through but I'm

scared because I'm like, If they haven't really helped me,

like happened to this point? When she was detained,

she rejected medication. I felt like personally, I did not

need the medication they were trying How I was dealing with

it was kind of being more creative, going and singing,

doing all the dances and stuff like That's something that helps

to kind of keep me up. But because I wasn't

kind of going down the traditional kind of road, I felt

people were just like, what's wrong And I was like, there's nothing

wrong with me, I'm just trying to help myself

in a very chaotic situation. I didn't get to speak

with professionals or doctors as much as I wanted because it is still

fresh, a lot of questions, and trying to understand what's happened

and what is happening currently. And I saw the doctor

on day 21 of the 28 days. And there was no talking,

no necessarily therapy, real talking so I'm like, why was it not possible

to speak with somebody about what had been happening to me,

trying to make sense of that? And so the first port

of call was the drugs, And I think in terms of your voice

being heard, almost the same way as it was in the police

cell, falling on deaf ears. David Bradley is

a chief executive of He believes more needs to be done

to ensure people are given options The first thing we've

got to do is make sure talking therapies are more available

to people so that people can refer themselves in, they can call,

get appointments before they are admitted to hospital so this

is just in daily life. We are doing work around that,

to make sure people can access that but again providing

talking therapies in churches, community centres and working

with local groups to provide that out-of-hospital but

in normal settings. The second bit is about

when people are admitted. If they are in hospital,

they need to get We have been looking at how

to improve that, make sure people do not feel that the only thing

they've got is medication. Medication is sometimes good

for people, it plays a role, it can be incredibly

helpful for people, So as well as black people being

more likely to be sectioned than white people, experts say that

in mental health services they are also more likely

to be given medication. I asked Donald Massey,

a psychiatric doctor, with the perception that black

people were more dangerous than There is a problem in perceived

dangerousness, say, of a petite 50-year-old

white lady on the ward with a serious mental illness,

and a 6-foot something big black guy with the same mental illness,

and both may be calm and may have episodes of irritability

or frustration and aggression because they are distressed

from the mental illness. But people are more likely to think

the black guy is going to do something, is going to hurt them,

essentially because there is a cultural idea of black people

being the aggressors. So then does the NHS have a problem

with perceiving black My impression is that things

are much better than We have a better understanding

of how different people present and as we try to look

at people as individuals, they are less likely to be treated as

different, but people have their own And while the NHS needs to address

it, I think it's much more than a health service issue,

it is a cultural issue. Do you think that you were treated

differently because Yeah, the way aggression

is perceived, there could be a subconscious bias acting

in the professionals. Racial bias, whether conscious

or unconscious, is something that could have been a factor

in the way I was perceived. When I think about some of that,

and some of the other people that I saw in the ward,

I look back, I'm like, you know what, what that

person was doing, that was definitely more aggressive than me,

in terms of what was happening. They didn't come into

intensive care, and even some of the people that I met

inside the intensive care unit, it's very, what's the word, diverse,

if we are going to use it in those terms, terms

of the demographics. How race impacts your mental

health experience, the way you go through the system,

how painful a process it is, I think there's definitely more

that needs to be done. The whole Mental

Health Act, which was written 24 years ago,

and so much has happened since then. And I think it's something

that needs to be redone. The majority of the system is set

up for white people. You can't make a claim

that the system is, you know, when they come from black

and minority communities, especially African and Caribbean communities,

when the evidence does not say that. We can't keep talking about this

and not doing anything about it. The same problems

from 25 years ago, how do we tackle those same problems,

instead of doing more research because the issues are the same,

also it's a case of who is willing, who is serious about this issue

to actually get it done? Because if the will was

there to actually solve More on this later in the programme

- really keen to hear from you if you're black and have

experiences of the mental Three quarters of graduates will

neve repay their student loans - with the poorest facing

the biggest debt. That's according to comprehensive

analysis from the Institute It estimates that students

in England will graduate with average debts of ?50,800,

after interest rates are raised let's speak to some students. J

Simpson, just arrived. 24. Graduated from the University of East London

in 2014 with ?28,000 debt. In Salford is Luke Dicks, 21,

second-year physics student at Manchester Uni. In Birmingham we

have a former Cambridge graduate, vice president of the National

students union. Jade menu left uni in 2014, how much debt have you got?

Roughly 20 8000. What about yourself? About 30,000, although I

don't like thinking about it. What will yours be? I should imagine

about 50 5000. How do you deal with the ?28,000 debt? Mentally I put it

to one side. In terms of my salary, that coming out, that is where it is

quite a lot of money where I could be saving for a house. Do you mind

me asking what you pay back each month? Roughly about ?58. Not for

hire, but with travel and rent in London, it is quite a lot taken to

my salary. That is what you spent on education? I definitely think it is

worth it. In terms, I'm glad I did not come in at the higher fees, I

don't know whether my decision would have been affected. Luke, when you

start repaying this, when you reach the current fresh older 21,000, that

may change as the years go by. How will you approach it? I'm not going

to worry about it. It is more like tax. Comes out from your employer 's

contributions to your salary. I don't think it will affect me day

today. You will always have that debt. Not like new debt you have to

worry about paying for stuff comes out of your wages every month,

exactly the same, depending on what you own. I will be in this situation

probably because I want to physics research where I will not earn

enough to pay it off. They will still not bother me. After 30 years

she had not paid the whole thing back, gets written. The filters the

right thing that you are paying it compared to general taxpayers? I

have a brother doing an apprenticeship in general

engineering. I don't think it is fair for him, or someone like my

parents, or someone who did not go to university to pay for my

privilege of having a top-quality, world-class education. Do you agree

with the universities minister, Jo Johnson, effectively this student

finance system is removing barriers, so people from disadvantaged

backgrounds can go to university? I completely disagree. As the research

came out today, those from disadvantaged backgrounds enter

worse off, leaving university with 57,000, over ?57,000 of debt. Comes

back to the central point, how we look at higher education, is it

essential for society to have doctors, engineers, historians, all

contributing to society. Should not be seen as something individual

gets. The public should be investing in students so they can invest back

into society. It is not a luxury, not a business. This is society

deciding as a whole to make an investment into young people say

that we can return the investment back into society. Why is it that

the numbers of 18-year-olds from the most disadvantaged areas is going up

when it comes to university? 12.2% of 18-year-olds from the most

disadvantaged areas apply to university. In 2010 up to 18%. In

2017 it is up to 22%. Well more and more young people are going to

universities because they see the opportunities this I am delighted

about that. They're not been put off by the loan system? What I would

say, research said they are more likely to drop out. They are

receiving higher debts. Dropout could be for a number of reasons. I

is saying this because of the debt? There are whole range of reasons why

they be. We have to look at whether they can make ends meet wealthier at

university. Because of the move from France to loans we know that student

finance is a major issue when we speak to students on the reference

when I'm talking to students on the ground they see this as an unfair

intergenerational inequality. Lectured by individuals who had a

free education themselves. Using that education in public service. In

other walks of life. They are telling us that we now have a fairer

system because we're now in ?57,000 of debt. Viewers around the country

will understand it is very difficult argument to make. One which will

consistently hurt the government of the ballot box if they do not engage

in conversation. Thank you that is the vice president of the National

Union of Students. Luke Dicks, second-year physics student at

Manchester University. The latest news and sport in just a moment.

Before that there is the weather. Simon good morning.

It will turn pretty hot in the southern part of England, lots of

sunshine here this morning but you notice from the recent satellite

picture that more cloud in southern Scotland and across Northern Ireland

as well. Most of that cloud will tend to fizzle away about in

south-east Scotland, the far north-east of England, it will stay

quite grave. Elsewhere, sunny spells. Look at those temperatures

across the South, 26 to 29 Celsius. A bit fresher further north and

west, 14 to 17. They will be a warm end to the day, fairly uncomfortable

for some to sleep in the south-east. Tomorrow morning we are looking at

some really big thunderstorms developing from the South, the

Midlands, East Anglia and the Sutherland on. A fuse thunderstorms

developing across northern parts of England but some sunny spells in

between, and they will be hit and miss, those showers. Another hot and

humid day across England and Wales. A bit more cloud around and some

rain in the far north-west. Goodbye. It is Wednesday, ten o'clock, I am

Victoria Derbyshire. A task force will be sent in to take over parts

of Kensington and Chelsea council in the wake of the Grenfell Tower fire.

It comes as new figures show only 14 families have accepted the temporary

accommodation they have been offered. Most are still living in

hotel rooms. It is, I lost flat,

I lost five members of my I've nothing to lose

so I'm staying there. We'll speak to one resident,

who says people aren't being offered Also on the programme,

we'll hear from the sisters of a disabled man who was beaten

to death by his neighbour after making 85 calls to the police

to report harassment. Reading that report and just coming

to terms with what happened A report by the Independent Police

Complaints Commission says Bijan Ebrahimi was failed

by the police over And we'll speak to a woman

who was stabbed and left for dead She had reported him

to police 125 times. Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. Victims of harassment and stalking

in England and Wales are being left at risk because of failings

by police and prosecutors, Two watchdogs found that crimes

weren't being recorded, investigations were poorly conducted

and legal protection wasn't They examined 112 cases in detail

and concluded that none had Officers and prosecutors

were identifying cases in isolation, whereas by its very nature,

both stalking and harassment occurs as a result of really pernicious

and persistent offending. And officers and prosecutors

were missing that, which meant that And at just after half

past ten this morning, we'll be hearing more

from Wendy Williams and from a woman who was attacked and left

for dead by her stalker. The majority of survivors

of the Grenfell Tower fire remain in hotels,

despite today's deadline - set by the Prime Minister -

for everybody affected to be found So far, 139 offers of accomodation

have been made, but only 14 Meanwhile survivors have

expressed their frustration with a lack of information

during a meeting with the police A senior officer was asked why

there haven't been any arrests, while the coroner reportedly

described the scene inside Cherboonee Salah lived on the ninth

floor of Grenfell Tower They're currently staying in a hotel

and he told Victoria why he had refused temporary offers

of accommodation. I'm already in temporary

accommodation. What is it like living

in the hotel with your family? I'm stuck in the four

corners of the hotel. Avon and Somerset Police have

admitted they repeatedly "failed" a disabled refugee who was beaten

to death in Bristol four years ago. A report by the police watchdog says

officers responded poorly The force says it's made changes

and has apologised to his family. If you are getting in touch, you are

very welcome as always. Message as on Twitter.

Andy Murray takes on Germany's Dustin Brown

at Wimbledon this afternoon - and Brown is one of tennis's

He used to sleep in a campervan, hasn't cut his dreadlocked hair

is known as the Germaican back home in Germany, and is a really

In yesterday's action, there was a bit of controversy

about players pulling out of their first-round matches

and the fact they earn ?35,000 even if they're injured.

Martin Klizan played for only 40 minutes against Novak Djokovic

And Roger Federer's match didn't last much longer either,

as Alexander Dolgopolov was forced off with an ankle injury.

Federer and Djokovic believe it could be time to change the rules.

The question is always sure they have started the match at all, and

that only the player can answer, really, in my opinion, and you hope

that they would give up their spot for somebody else. Wimbledon has

probably been the strongest of any other tournament, especially if you

walk out in the centre court, there is a responsibility. I am sure they

tried their best but it is what it is.

Well, that wasn't the only point of controversy yesterday,

as Australian Bernard Tomic said he lacked motivation and was "bored"

during his straight-sets defeat to Mischa Zverev.

Tomic, who was world number 17 only last year,

and also admitted to using a medical time-out to slow down the match,

Didn't slow it down that much, did he, only one hour 17 minutes.

There was better news for Briton's Kyle Edmund, though.

He'd lost in the first round for the last four years,

but is into round two after beating fellow Brit Alex Ward,

who's ranked 869th in the world after a series of injuries.

And the women's world number one Angelique Kerber is also

through, after beating Irina Falconi.

recently, but said memories of last year's final

against Serena Williams motivated her.

Away from the tennis, Mark Cavendish is out

of the Tour de France, because of a crash at the end

World champion Peter Sagan was disqualified for elbowing

Cavendish, although his team have appealed against the decision.

The Briton broke his shoulder and needed stitches in his hand.

Rangers are recovering this morning from perhaps the worst

They were knocked out of the Europa League by a part-time

team from Luxembourg, losing 2-0 last night,

Rangers manager Pedro Caixinha has said he "assumes

That is also sport for now. Coming up to ten past ten.

It's three weeks since the fire at Grenfell Tower

in North Kensington, which killed at least 80 people and left

On this programme exactly a week ago, the Housing Minister made it

very clear that temporary homes would be offered to everyone

Today, we're back here in North Kensington to catch up

with some of those we first met on that Wednesday

to bring you more remarkable stories of those who escaped, and to find

We're constantly expected to chase things, go here, phone this,

It's no surprise to me at all that you have an empty chair there.

Having worked on the council for 11 years, the depth of incompetence

You'll notice that we've a couple of chairs here now, empty chairs.

This is a photograph of the leader of Kensington

and Chelsea Borough Council, that's Nick Paget-Brown.

So I'm asking you respectfully, check your moral compass.

Then you will gain the respect and understanding of these people.

What I need to know, people are struggling

And the problem that we have is that we now know there is a price

The housing minister, I'm told, is here.

His name is Alok Sharma and he has agreed to be with us today

So I know you have questions for him.

Thank you very much for giving us your time today.

Why is it OK that there are thousands of empty

homes right in this area, and these people are homeless?

Olu does not want temporary accommodation, he wants

permanent accommodation, he wants good permanent

You created it to save money, to keep money in your pocket,

Can you please be specific as to what package you are offering

in terms of housing or rehousing the residents back

And be specific, please, without the flowery words.

Let the minister speak, hear what he is committing to.

Please let us know what your commitment is.

So what we've committed to is, is anyone whose home has been

destroyed, will be housed by next Wednesday in, good accommodation,

and then we will work with, and in housing

So what we are not going to do is, you are offered a home,

you don't like it and you're still asked to go in,

Well, of 158 families affected, 139 have been offered temporary homes

but only 14 have accepted, with most others still

A leaked government letter seen by this programme suggests some

are worried that if they take up the offer, it might jeopardise their

chances of getting a new luxury flat in the heart of Kensington.

We have also learned today that a task force will be sent in to take

over parts of Chelsea and Kensington council in the wake of the fire.

We can speak to Eleanor Kelly from the Governmetn's

Grenfell Response Team, which was set up to coordinate relief efforts.

In a moment we will also talk to the Conservative MP Kevin Hollinrake

who's on the communities and government select committee until

recently. Shelter have over 20 people on the ground Trent help

people with accommodation and a resident who fled the 15th floor of

the tower block for his wife and Rob Walter. Sid was on our programme a

week ago -- his wife and daughter. First Eleanor Kelly from the

Grenfell response team. What do you think of the fact that only 14 of

the families have accepted the offer is of temporary accommodation? I am

not surprised at all because the vast majority of the families are

simply not ready to make what they see as long-term decisions about

where their families should go. They are also in a position where they

are seriously considering they should stay where they are in order

to make one move into permanent accommodation. You have to realise

the impact on this families, the trauma they have been through, and

the fact that they do need to sort of like take a step back and takes

time to decide what would be the right move for them. We spoke to one

dad earlier who described his hotel room as hell because of the size of

it, and there are four in there, and he said he would rather stay in hell

for months and wait for something permanent to be offered than move

into temporary accommodation now and have to move again potentially into

permanent accommodation. I think you have to appreciate how people feel

who have lost everything. Sitting down and moving somewhere else

temporarily will, that is something they don't want to put their family

through. So you can understand why someone would want to stay in hotel

accommodation and only make that one permanent move. The first set of 68

permanent properties in Kensington will come on stream at the end of

this month. The council and the government and the multi-agency

teams are working very hard on identifying the next set of

permanent Kensington and Chelsea homes because most people want to be

in Kensington and Chelsea. with those of the new-build flats. 68

come on stream at the end of the month. Can a family moving? The

allocations policy has been agreed and independently verified. We will

work our way through which of the 158 families and households are best

matched in terms of their housing needs to those properties. Are you

saying people will be able to move in at the beginning of the month?

Properties are due to be available to occupy at the end of the month.

Once the 68 families are allocated to those 60 properties, people are

working inside the council, the garment and the response team to

identify further flats like that that can come on stream. Other

properties under construction. Under construction? 68 properties under

construction. Those are virtually completed. We have identified just

under 100 vacant properties in Kensington and Chelsea offered to

the families. On the basis of either temporary, or most cases permanent

occupation. Many of the 14 have accepted the temporary move will be

considered: whether the properties they are accepted are acceptable for

them for permanent positions this once the 68 have been allocated,

that leaves dozens of families awaiting permanent accommodation.

How many months might they be living in hotel rooms? Until the permanent

housing is offered? The issue as to how long it takes relies on each

individual family, circumstances, views and feelings in relation to

where they want and need to what sort of accommodation they are

prepared to accept. How they feel about different types of

accommodation. You know the majority want to be in the same borough.

There are much more complete case of factors, some people think they want

to be in a particular location: Katie C property and application

deciding they don't want to be there at all. It is about how they feel,

particularly when they can view the properties we know that the vast

majority of families want to be in Kensington and Chelsea. Many of the

properties we are showing them as temporary accommodation in

Westminster are rejected unseen. That is because location is

extremely important to people. He comes down to choice, and each of

these families needs to be supportive in making the choice as

to where they will make their permanent accommodation. He could be

months? Pic of the manse, and that of individual choice for each family

whether to stay in hotel accommodation or make the temporary

move. The temporary accommodation offices high quality and matched to

their housing needs. Thank you for talking to us to do. Joint leader of

the Grenfell Tower response team. I had taken can hear me OK. Explain

to our audience what you had been offered, and what you have decided

to do about that. We were offered something close to Edgware road. In

the Westminster father. He was not compatible regarding my housing

assessment. I think personally people feeling that the housing

assessment applications, they have been taking so long. Offering

houses, we all know we aren't difficult situation. They say they

are giving houses suitable for the family. The action on the ground is

not matching. The procedure, this is my argument. Why are you not

following the procedure which has been taken with the family. The

application assessment from the housing assessment, taking

personally with me. My family need. And demand, we are entitled to that.

This is what we are asking for. Why they are offering me something not

suitable for me and my family? This is the problem. Offered to the other

family. Why have a offering people, something which is not suitable for

disabled person, why? Can I ask how long you are prepared to live in a

hotel room with your wife and daughter until permanent suitable

permanent accommodation is offered? I will not. I will not go to

temporary housing for other not accept temporary housing. You are

prepared to live in that hotel as long as it takes? To be honest with

you, personally with my family, we're not going nowhere. The BBC has

spoken to your daughter. We will play a clip of that. What she says

about housing. I have nightmares about, if it

happens again, if I wake up and Most of the people in my building,

they were very close to me and And seeing them go wasn't...

wasn't good. I want to ask if your daughter,

wife, happy being offered counselling? No. You have not? We

have been asked you need to need to talk to someone. Which kind of

question you give to people like that in this situation. Which kind

of question are you giving that? Asking people, do you need to talk

to someone? Lycoming afar, having some drinks. I am crying about my

disaster, do you need to talk to someone? What is going on Christmas?

disaster, do you need to talk to someone? What is going on They need

to send people from the hotel to check on people. Any of the leaders

visiting the family? No one. Everyone is busy with the money, the

housing. What is going on Christmas where is the humanity and heart. Do

you need to talk to someone? That kind of question is not acceptable

at all. You need to go to the hotel, approach these people kindly,

sensitively. Open your arms, hugged him, I'm here for you. Find a cure,

supportive. Not asking them on the street, do you need to talk to

someone, darling? What is going on Christmas what kind of housing

assessment are they taking. I am sorry. Thank you very much for your

time, said. We will keep following the story. --

I bring in a government MP. A deep of the mistrust and resentment among

survivors, despite what has happened amongst the Grenfell Tower response

team. Definitely, I visited some of the local residents in their homes.

I quite understand the situation. We can never totally put ourselves in

the place of these people, what has happened to them. I can understand

the lack of trust, there are competing pressures, wanting to act

quickly, wanting to work with the residents to make sure we fully

understand what they are going through. What they have is their

needs, the ability to be involved in the process. So we can help them to

make the right choices. Should be about their choice, not what we want

to impose on everybody. We have to make sure we bring the people of

Grenfell Tower with us. Very disappointing that the assessments

are correct. That is supported not fancy. We need a new heaven and

earth to make sure the support is there. You will know Versace jacket,

the Communities Secretary is bringing in XML task force to take

over parts of the running of Kensington and Chelsea Council. Is

that the same is outside commissioners, which is what the

Labour London mayor was calling for. Not quite the same, but we

understand this is a national disaster and needs a national

response. We need to bring whatever support we can in. Expertise in

counselling from disaster response. In terms of relocation, helping

people to be relocated in suitable accommodation. They should not be

about money, it should be about them finding suitable accommodation that

is permanent. You have representatives on the ground what

are you hearing? We cannot underestimate how much trust is

broken down, how much confusion that is. All the decisions people are

making out because of the backdrop. One of the reasons people have not

accepted offers, partly because they're not suitable. People being

offered accommodation out of the area, without adequate washing

facilities. Big issues about people not feeling safe for obvious and

understandable reasons. Issues about it not been suitable. There is also

a level of mistrust, since Day one people have a completely

understandable fear they will be out of sight and out of mind, people do

not believe that if they accept temporary accommodation the council

will remember them and give them permanent social housing. Which is

what people need in order to rebuild their lives. What we're heard from

the task force, they are trying to do this in a sympathetic way, to

listen to people? Needs. We are finding that people are still not

ready to engage reverse. They are grieving, burying relatives, dealing

with the trauma. Within that context, asking people to date, can

you move house? Difficult in normal times. When you consider the depth

of the trauma some of them are experiencing. Still seeing people

who cannot talk, asking them to make big decisions. We need to Macca

ambitions, to be resolute about the need to rehouse people permanently,

well and quickly. We need to be absolutely sensitive to people's own

needs. Still to come in the last half-hour,

stabbed and left for dead, we hear from a woman attacked by a stalker

she had repeatedly reported to the police.

A disabled man who was beaten to death by his neighbour in Bristol

was failed by police over a six year period - according to a report

from the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

Bijan Ebrahimi, a refugee born in Iran, made 85

calls to the police - the last one an hour

An IPCC investigation into his death has found that the Avon

and Somerset Constabulary systematically failed to protect him

- not recording more than half of the 73 alleged

The investigation found that he was disbelieved -

considered to be a liar, a nuisance and an attention seeker -

that he was often treated as the perpetrator of crimes rather

Last night our correspondent Jon Kay spoke to his two sisters -

Manisha Moores and Mojgan Khayatian who said

that they had to push the IPCC to deepen its investigation.

the police, he was thinking it is their duty to care

him, so he didn't think it's up to us, or maybe should have let us

But by reading this report it just shows what a terrible life he'd

I should say that this investigation,

it was just down to us pushing the IPCC to go further than just

We knew that there was something more that needed to be

And it was our push for the IPCC to go through the last few

One thing the report makes clear is that even after he had been ignored

so many times, he still had faith in the police the trust of the police,

write to tell the end, to save him, to help them, and yet that didn't

happen. Well, he never gave up. Well he never gave up,

he always thought that he is in a country, the police

is there to protect people, and he could not see

anything beyond that. As you said, how many times

they didn't listen to him he always went back to them

seeking help from them. And it is so devastating

to see how they failed Do you think the report

goes far enough? I think the IPCC, as I've

mentioned, they've done the entire investigation, and I think

the depth of it, it was quite The failure of the agency

and police was quite And I would say, the police

and the investigation, we are quite And not only that, the points

they've taken on board, and the meetings we've got with them, from

time to time, it shows they have taken the lessons on board

and they are doing something. But we haven't even

started with the council. They haven't shown any action or any

investigation at all. This is Bristol City

Council, you are still waiting for the official report

into the handling of Bijan's And we are talking

about four years' time. It was July 2013,

and we still haven't Two Avon and Somerset Police

officers were jailed over their dealings with Mr

Ebrahimi. They and two others were also

dismissed from the force. Tony Murphy is in Bristol -

he's the family solicitor. Why do you think, Mr Murphy, that

Bijan Ebrahimi was ignored semitones? The family are -- ignored

so many times. The family are clear that what lies at the heart of this

is institutional racism, and it has been devastating to read the report,

and worse that police actively colluded in that racism by blaming

the victim, rather than apprehending the perpetrators over six long

years. How shocked by you at the breadth and depth of the failings at

every level? Well, the criticisms are unprecedented, in my experience,

not least the institutional systemic nature of them, and the

institutional racism at the core of it is obviously deeply concerning,

across the country. And is the family satisfied with what has

happened to the officers concerned, and the changes that the force have

made sense? The family feel that the IPCC have done justice to this, and

it is important that the Chief Constable has acknowledged the

failings and taken responsibility. It is also understood that he is to

implement a programme of systemic change. The family's real concern is

that the other agency who were responsible for not protecting Bijan

during that time, Bristol City Council, have not been brought to

justice, and they are calling for the mayor to make a statement

accepting responsibility for the council's failing to protect Bijan,

and to meet with the family in order to do justice to Bijan and four

other families. The housing department and other

departments will be run by an outside organisation. Most of the

families who lost their homes are still living in hotels, despite

government pledges to rehouse them all by today.

Victims of harassment and stalking in England and Wales are being left

at risk because of failings by police and prosecutors,

Two watchdogs found that crimes weren't being recorded,

investigations were poorly conducted and legal protection wasn't

They examined 112 cases in detail and concluded that none had

The report by the Institute for Fiscal Studies says Ms graduates

were we paying off student loans into their 50s and three quarters

will never clear the debt. The government says those from poorer

backgrounds are now going to university at a record rate, up 43%

since 2009. Join me for BBC Newsroom Live at 11am.

This e-mail from Julie, she was stalked, we will talk about stalking

in the next few minutes, she says harassment is never dealt with until

something dreadful happens. As already mentioned, individual

incidents are dismissed as trivial, yet when the sum of individual

incidents are looked at, the massive negative impact on the target is

huge, and the risk can be unbearable. I have been stalked by a

guy in my gym previously and the police would do nothing. My life was

made miserable by him making threats to me on social media and turning up

the venues I was at. We will talk more about that and the damning

report on the way the police deal with stalking incidents which is out

today, in the next few minutes. Here is the sport with Tim.

And exciting match on day three at Wimbledon as Andy Murray takes on

the unpredictable Dustin Brown of Germany this afternoon. Then

yesterday's action, there was a bit of controversy about players pulling

out of their first-round matches the fact they earn ?35,000, even if they

are injured. Martin Klizan played for only 40 minutes against Novak

Djokovic, before retiring with a calf problem. Roger Federer's

opponent pulled out as well. Alexandr Dolgopolov retiring with an

ankle injury. The seven time champion and Djokovic later said

they feel it is time to change the rules and give players who are fully

healthy a chance instead. Away from the tennis, Mark Cavendish is out of

the Tour de France after a crash at the end of yesterday's for stage.

The Briton broke his shoulder and needed stitches after appearing to

be although Dubai World Championships aside and, who was

subsequently discovered but is appealing that decision.

Rangers are recovering this morning from perhaps the worst

They were knocked out of the Europa League by a part-time

team from Luxembourg, losing 2-0 last night,

Rangers manager Pedro Caixinha has said he "assumes

Victims of harassment and stalking are being left at risk

because of failings by police and prosecutors

Reports by the Inspectorate of Constabulary and the Crown

Prosecution Service Inspectorate say that too often crimes

aren't being reported, too many investigations are poorly

run and victims failed to legal protection.

112 cases were examined and not a single one was found to have been

They found "compelling evidence" police

were giving written warnings to offenders rather than carrying

She was stabbed and left for dead by her stalker in 2013.

Helen had reported the attacker, who was her neighbour,

to police 125 times over a period of five years.

Wendy Williams is also here - she led the investigation

of Constabulary, and Laura Richards is Director of Paladin,

Six the National Stalking Advocacy Service.

Helen, when you made some of those 125 complaints to the police, what

sort of response did you get? I always felt like I wasn't being

believed or taken seriously. Everything was very slow, and very

reactive, after the event, rather than proactive. If you had a letter

it would get sent off finger prints, it would take ages before you heard

back and there would be no fingerprints, which obviously there

wouldn't be, because he would have worn gloves. And it just felt like

it was a constant sort of trip, drip tap, and that the police were not

taking it seriously. They literally didn't want to know, that I was a

nuisance. What kind of things was your neighbour doing, you mention

those letters, what else? It started off lower key things, like gunge up

door lock, the letters, phone calls, and then it moved to bricks through

your window, car tyres being slashed, following me out where I

went, so if I parked my car, went for a little walk, and then I would

not be offered to drive my car back home. That is obviously criminal

damage. I am not a police officer, slightly more simple to investigate

fan who wrote a letter with no finger prints on it, I don't know?

Well, it would get crime that, and I remember every time I would going in

for a crime, I would say please link this under the master crime di

easier though 96672, and they never did. They treated each one as a

separate case. And even somewhere, if I was parked, I had been away

further from home, they would not even deem it as being linked to the

stalking case, because it was so far from home, but of course we knew it

was, because after that, for an example, a time when the car window

was smashed, out at a place I had been, the sent a letter referring to

the place I had been on the date I went taking that walk. I felt like

there were just so many missed opportunities, there were so many

times so much could have been done, and wasn't. Let me bring in Wendy

and Laura, if I may. In terms of the evaluation you have done of these

112 stalking cases, how is it possible that not one was

investigated properly? We did look at 100 fold cases in quite some

depth. We also looked at cases across all 43 of the forces, but

these cases were looked at in detail, and, as you said, not one of

them was prepared and dealt with in accordance with expectations. And

there was one in particular, which involved a person who was confronted

in his home by a perpetrator who wasn't happy because the individual

was having a friendship with this person's former partner. And what

happened there was that he subsequently subjected this person

to a campaign of threats and abuse on his phone, on social media, and

the individual, the abuse was so bad, that the individual moved home.

He wasn't supported in the case, and ultimately the perpetrator was

acquitted, and he subsequently found out that the police have not

analysed the individual's computing, which would have strengthened the

case. And sadly this was representative of what we were

finding. And from your enquiries, what explanations did you come

across as to why these cases were not being dealt with properly? Well,

as Helen has indicated, all too often officers were dealing with

cases in isolation. They weren't looking at the totality of the

offending, and as we have heard, this sort of behaviour, by its

nature, it is persistent, it is systematic, it is also repetitive.

And it is only by capturing those repeat occasions that the full

extent and seriousness of the case can be appreciated, investigated,

properly prosecuted and victims can be properly served. Laura, you were

an adviser to the all-party Parliamentary enquiry back in 2012.

When you hear when they discuss what she has the Scuffet, how do you

react? Well, I feel pretty angry about this, having drafted the law,

and we worked with Trisha Purnell, whose daughter was stalked and

murdered in Harvey Nicholls, will change as part of cultural change.

Explain the law change now that was supposed to help. Two new laws of

stalking were made, we met the David Cameron, we drafted the law, we

requested specialist led training and we felt this would signal how

serious stalking was. However, for years on, yes, I have set up Paladin

and I have a team of amazing caseworkers, they are all

specialists, we have assisted all over 2000 victims but the rest of

the terrain has not changed. There has been very little leadership.

People don't know the stalking law exists. People are being told it is

Trippier, there is no law, victims are being dismissed, given fixed

penalty notices, this is familiar. Sian O'Brien was given a fixed

penalty notice and a summary had checked the intelligence database

that would have seemed he had stalked 13 girls before Herbert the

issued her with a fixed penalty notice and she was killed. Another

girl was killed in Northumbria, the same story in October, we just had

Molly McLaren killed. I have been analysing and counting dead women

for many years now. We have about 85 cases either by the Independent

police commission having reviewed them, the same patterns repeat. They

say we are sorry, like they did to Helen, but none of these lessons are

learned and then the next thing happens. They are not putting any of

this knowledge around risk assessment into practice. The women

you have just talked about, your stalker, your neighbour, it started

off low level but it grew and built a new ultimately nearly lost your

life because he attacked you. Yes, but you could see it escalating, and

you felt like he was screaming with your mouth shut, because nobody

heard. They did not take it seriously. You could see it

escalating. It went from a dead cat put on your door, and it built up

and up and down. He sent a letter threatening to attack me. It haunts

my mind. I read the words in my head all the time, what will I do when I

attack you, will you fight, will you scream, let the game begin? Oh god.

You have that come in you then have the dead cat on your door, you are

waiting for it, you don't know when it is going to happen, how it will

happen, but you know it is going to. And it was literally waiting. Mir we

call these cases murder in the low motion because it is just as

Galette. Having created a risk assessment for the police to be used

from we want people to be trained, specialist led, we want there to be.

We are still hearing from victims in Devon and Cornwall, still hearing

there is no training, still victims are being dismissed and turned away.

We are fed up with lessons to be learned and sorry, that doesn't

carry any currency any more. It is about action and that is why we

welcome the report, because there needs to be clear leadership, people

need to be held to account and this has to be about change that lasts.

This morning we've been asking if black people are being failed

by the mental health system because of institutional racism?

Black men are 17 times more likely than white men to be diagnosed

with a serious mental health condition such as schizophrenia.

The think tank the Centre for Mental Health says it's an issue

Our reporter Isaac Fanin has been speaking to people

about their experiences of mental health.

My name is Eche and I've been sectioned once under the Mental

I was expecting to go to the hospital but in actual fact they

took me to the police station or police cell.

Being placed in those four walls was one of the most

damaging things they could have done in that state of mind I was in.

And I'm in my room and I'm like, you know what,

The first time I was compliant and so they

were like, section two, 28 days, you have to go back there.

Physically they tried to get me down.

That didn't work so they brought the Taser out, 50,000 volts

and before I know it I'm back in handcuffs.

Back in hospital, to remove the Taser hook,

and then before you know it back in the ward.

Those experiences with the police and the Taser made me more

resistant and more distrusting of the system in general, as it felt

How do you know want me to engage with this system?

I didn't really get to speak with professionals doctors as much

as I wanted because it is still fresh, I

have a lot of questions, and trying to understand what has

happened and what is happening currently and I

And there was talking, not necessarily therapy, just real

So I'm like, why was it not possible to speak with somebody

about what had been happening and try to make sense of that?

So the first port of call was the drugs,

And I think in terms of your voice being heard, it's

almost the same way as it was in the police cell.

Falling on deaf ears, the way aggression is perceived,

there could be a subconscious bias acting in the professionals.

Racial bias, whether conscious or unconscious, is

something that could have been a factor in the way I was perceived.

When I think about that and some of the other

people that I saw in the

ward, I look back, I'm like, you know what, what that person was

doing, that was definitely more aggressive than me in terms of what

was happening but they stayed in that open ward, they didn't come

into intensive care, and then even some of

the people that I met inside

the intensive care unit was very, what's the word, diverse if we are

going to use it in terms of the demographics.

So how race impacts your mental health

experience, the way you go to the system,

how painful process it is, I

think there's definitely something that needs to be done.

The whole Mental Health Act which was written 24 years ago.

And I think it's something that needs to

Now we can speak to Marcia Brock who claims she has been

wrongly sectioned several times, Maitreya - who doesn't want us

to use her surname - she says she's found it difficult

to get the mental health help she needs, and Andy Bell

from the Centre for Mental Health which published today's report.

We viewing just moment, but you have been sectioned four times. You have

cerebrally this, which can sometimes present itself as a psychosis.

Obviously relevant to being sectioned. That is correct. I was

initially sectioned in 2007, this is the pattern every two, three years

since then. What I can say, being wrongly sectioned, I would get an

apology. A red flag, should have Lupus written on the notes.

Sometimes it does not present in the blood, but it presents face to face.

More than a conversation rather than a blood test. Do you think you would