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I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme.

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There should be a crackdown on the cash-in-hand economy

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according to the author of a Government-backed

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He also wants to see far more rights for people in low

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There are too many people treated at work like they are cogs in a

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machine, rather than human beings, and there are too many people who do

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not see a route from their current job to progress and do better and

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earn more. Do you accept cash in

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hand and pay tax on it? One of the richest women

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in the world, Melinda Gates, joins us to explain why millions

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more women in the poorest parts of the world need better

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access to contraception. When you travel the world, you meet

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so many women who will tell you that if they can space the births of

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their children, they can feed and educate them, and that is what they

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want to do. You can hear that full

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interview after 10 o'clock. And for the first time

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in more than 30 years, Great Britain will be represented

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in the ladies Wimbledon Johanna Konta says she's just

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focusing on winning the match. She is delighted she has got this

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far. Cash jobs like window cleaning

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and decorating are said to be worth up to ?6 billion a year,

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so we want to hear from you this morning if you get paid in cash

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of if you've paid for jobs in cash Do get in touch on all the stories

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we're talking about this morning - And if you text, you will be charged

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at the standard network rate. Ending cash-in-hand jobs

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and changing the rules on the gig economy, where workers get paid

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per task, are two of the recommendations in a major

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report into the way we work. The Matthew Taylor review also says

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there are too many people who are being treated like cogs

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in a machine, rather Our economics correspondent,

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Andy Verity, reports. In the last ten years,

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the economy's generated record numbers of jobs and the lowest

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unemployment rate in nearly But according to the man who led

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a government-commissioned review, more jobs hasn't always

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meant more good jobs. In my view, there's too much work,

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particularly at the bottom end of the labour market,

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that isn't of a high enough quality and there's too many people not

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having their rights fully respected and there are too many people

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treated at work like cogs in a machine rather than being human

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beings and there are too many people who don't see a route

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from their current job to progress The review will recommend that

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if someone is controlled and supervised, then they're

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classified as a worker, or dependent contractor,

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rather than self-employed. Those workers may be entitled

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to benefits like holiday pay and employers may have to pay

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national insurance at 13.8%. That's broadly in line

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with a landmark court ruling in a case brought by this former

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Uber driver, Yaseen Aslam. I don't think it helps me

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as a worker for what I've been fighting for in tribunal,

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and that's what's concerning because the workers have not been

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involved in the process The review also makes a bigger point

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that self-employed work, from plumbers to painters, yields

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far less tax for the Treasury, especially if the work

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is cash in hand. For consumers, though,

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the recommendations are likely to mean inexpensive services

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will no longer be as cheap. Our political guru, Norman Smith,

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is in Westminster this morning. This report could affect so many

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people, but I wonder how much change it will really bring about? The mind

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behind it thinks it will be the biggest step change in employment

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rules in a generation. He certainly thinks it will be a very big deal

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and what it is trying to do is address the grey area that gig

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workers inhabit because they are not quite self-employed, they do not

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have complete control over their working lives, often beholden to

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these companies. At the same time, they are not really employees

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either, not absolutely locked into companies like Uber. They are in a

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twilight world. What Matthew Taylor is suggesting there ought to be a

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new category of worker called independent contractor which would

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enjoy some but not all the rights of employees. They would get holiday

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pay, sickness benefits, potentially the minimum wage too. Two things

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strike me. Will it happen? That seems to me a little bit vague

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because although some people in government are saying, this is a

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good report, we like it, there is no firm commitment to implement it, to

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actually make it happen. When you look at the reaction of unions and

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business, they are not terribly enthusiastic either. The real danger

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is whether the report will end up like so many reports, there is a big

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hoo-ha at the time but then it just gets pushed back down the agenda and

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ends up not being implemented. She is, Norman. Thank you very much.

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Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

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President Trump's eldest son is facing further allegations

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about a meeting he held with a Russian lawyer

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The New York Times says Donald Trump Junior was informed

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in advance by email that the information offered

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by the woman was part of a Russian government effort

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The Senate Intelligence Committee says it wants to speak to him

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Rescue teams searching for a missing 12-year-old boy have found a body in

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the River Trent. Specialist boat rescue crews were caught the search

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is stretch of the river at 6pm on Monday. Just after 10pm, police said

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they had found a body in the water. An American military aircraft has

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crashed in the state of Mississippi, It crashed about 100 miles north

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of Jackson, the state capital. Officials say all 16 victims

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were on the Marine Corps aircraft A man has been charged over an acid

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attack on a woman and her cousin John Tomlin, who's 24,

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is alleged to have thrown acid at Resham Khan and Jameel Muhktar

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through their car window. Both suffered severe burns

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to the face and body. A day after the Iraqi Prime Minister

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declared victory in the battle to retake Mosul from so-called

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Islamic State, hopes and worries about what happens next

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are already forming. Members of a 72-nation coalition

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are meeting in Washington later to work out how a stable future can

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be secured and the US top general in Iraq has warned of the dangers

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of allowing a new version So-called Islamic State appears

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to be on the back foot. TRANSLATION: Our victory today

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is a victory against darkness, against brutality,

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and against terrorism. In Syria, US-backed forces

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are closing in on Raqqa. But this is not

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the end of the battle. Meetings are planned

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in Washington this week to stop victories turning

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to defeat and chaos. Even if IS do lose

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cities, it doesn't mean The group could go underground,

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which could create a One of the first questions

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diplomats will want to know is, what will be done

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to rebuild after IS? There is worry that

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if power-sharing is handled badly, more people might

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become IS converts. There is also concern that

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as IS pulls out, Iran will be Iraq's government will need to take

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action, according to the coalition's If we are to keep the next

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Isis, Isis 2.0, from emerging, the Iraqi

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government is going to have to do something pretty

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significantly different. They are going to have to reach out,

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reconcile with the Sunni population. Much of Mosul in ruins with no

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water or electricity. Nearly 1 million of

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its people have fled. As aid agencies call

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out for money, the memories of Iraq in 2003 will be ringing

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in many people's ears, but who will be paying for the peace

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and what will be the price if no one A conference begins in London later

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which aims to improve access to contraception for large numbers

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of women in the world's It's thought that more

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than 200 million women worldwide who want access to family planning

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services still don't have it. We'll hear from the philanthropist

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Melinda Gates and the Development Secretary, Priti Patel,

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just after ten o'clock. Two new studies have found

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that people who drink Scientists say they've uncovered

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the clearest evidence yet that the beverage could be

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beneficial to health, with those drinking more

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than three cups a day seeing But others have urged caution,

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as Sarah Smith reports. It's the news every coffee addict

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will be delighted to hear. Their daily, or better still thrice

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daily, brew might be a reason Previous research has suggested

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drinking coffee can reduce the risk of heart disease,

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diabetes and some cancers. Now two studies, one

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American and one European, have both come up with results

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that seem to show coffee The study of more than 500,000

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people from ten European countries found men who downed at least three

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cups of coffee a day were 18% less likely to die from any cause

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than non-coffee drinkers. Women drinking the same amount

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benefited less but still experienced What the study doesn't show

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is what could be causing It's thought it could be

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the antioxidants The results came out the same

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for people who drank The figures don't prove that

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drinking coffee will make you live longer, there's no cause

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and effect shown, just a study of the life spans

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of an awful lot of coffee drinkers. Plans to almost double

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the number of Welsh speakers The Welsh Government wants

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1 million people to be There will be more teaching

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at an earlier age, and more Welsh-speaking teachers in primary

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and secondary schools, as our Wales At Ysgol Glan Morfa, children's

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lessons are taught through Welsh. Members of the Welsh Government came

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here to spread the word about their new goal

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for the language, supported We've laid down the gauntlet,

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if you like, it's a big task, If we really want to do it

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and we believe we can do it, then Expanding Welsh medium education

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is at the heart of the strategy. It includes creating 150 Welsh

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language nursery groups over the next decade and increasing

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the number of Welsh speaking primary But it's recognised that there must

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be opportunities to learn and use There's also a recognition

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that they need support from parents. Some parents will say, you know,

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if my kids go to a Welsh medium school, can I help them

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with their homework? Will all the correspondence be

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in Welsh from the school? So of course we want

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to take parents with us. The Welsh language is

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celebrated every year at the National Eisteddfod,

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a cultural festival which welcomes The Welsh Government wants more

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people to be able to communicate in Welsh, but the public's appetite

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for change remains to be seen. Now take a look at this dashcam

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footage of a driver who seems It's been released

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by police in Norfolk. I wonder if he's going

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to go through a red. He shouldn't even be driving

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the rate that he has been driving. He's watching the

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EXPLETIVE on his phone! He's watching the

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football on his phone. Norfolk Police said

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the driver concerned The force wants other people to send

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in dashcam footage which shows That's a summary of

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the latest BBC News. A warning letter? On the subject of

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sextant which we will talk about in a moment, Becky says, if it is

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children as young as five, it must be learnt behaviour. Parents need to

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take responsibility. No child needs to see anything inappropriate for

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their age. Shame on the parents. If you have a child who has sent or

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received images, seminaked images, Snapchat images with tassles on your

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private bits, we know what we are talking about, let us know how you

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have handled it as a mum or dad. On the cash economy, why is paying cash

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for jobs part of the report at all? The smell of a rat is strong. Steve

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Young Twitter says, this report by the UK Government is nothing more

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than a cash grab. Interesting. Cash in hand economy, suggestions today

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from this report that will be cracked down upon because it means a

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lot of tax goes unpaid. If you pay cash in hand, receive cash in hand,

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let me know the reasons why. Somerdale says, I receive cash in

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hand, the best way to work, cutting out the corrupt middle person. --

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someone says. No time for the sport. Two British players

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are through to the quarter-finals of the Wimbledon singles

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for the first time in 44 years. So can Johanna Konta go one better

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by reaching the last She takes on the number two seed

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Simona Halep after a really tough three-set win over

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Caroleen Garcia yesterday. Andy Murray isn't back

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in action until tomorrow. But there'll be no third Wimbledon

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title for Rafa Nadal. He was beaten in a near

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five hour epic by Giles Striker Romelu Lukaku

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is now a Manchester United player after officially

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joining from Everton. He met up with his new

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teammates for preseason And after a rest day, the Tour de

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France starts again today Chris Froome holds the overall lead

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but he'll be without team-mate Geraint Thomas who crashed out

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on Sunday with a broken collarbone. It's where someone sends

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naked or semi naked photo to someone else using a phone,

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tablet or online. In the UK it's illegal to do it

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if you are under 18 - yet the BBC has learned that more

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than 4,000 children under the age of 17 have been investigated

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for sexting since 2013. And nearly 500 of those children

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were aged 12 or under. Our Newcastle BBC reporter has been

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investigating. Tell us more? We found there were thousands of

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under-17s that has been dealt with for sexting, including a number of

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ten-year-olds and a few older teens that have ended up on the Sex

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Offenders' Register for it. There are hundreds of primary school age

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children. We put in Freedom of Information requests to all forces

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in England and Wales. We found that Greater Manchester Police returned

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the highest instances of children they dealt with for sexting. Norfolk

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and Essex have provided us with quite high numbers. The Met police

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weren't able to respond to our request, saying it would take too

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long for a member of staff to go through all the records they had. We

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got some context from some places such an an 11-year-old sending a

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message via Snapchat to a 12-year-old or a messenger message

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to an 11-year-old. You have been working on this story for months.

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What is the most surprising thing you draw from it? I think it's that

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it's not surprising - everybody I've spoken to when I've said sexting in

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under-17s, they've rolled their eyes and said sort of, we know what you

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are talking about. The most alarming thing, there is a five-year-old in

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County Durham found to be sexting by police. They were using an iPad. A

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five-year-old can use an iPad, you could give them an iPad for five

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minutes to entertain themselves but in this case it's been there for a

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bit longer. We learned the average age for sexting was 13-14-year-olds

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soI visited a youth club in Sunderland to find out what they

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knew about sexting. This is what they told me.

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It's when someone asks you, like, sexual pictures of yourself, or

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Is where you either like send like dirty

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messages or, like, nude pictures of yourself.

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Normally, like, your boobs, your bum.

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And, like, your private areas which no one asks you to.

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If it's like a girl it will be, like, your boots, or, like, your

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If it's like a boy it will be, like, you're down belows.

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I don't know if it's illegal but certainly

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I think a lot of people do because that's what people

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I think a few of my mates have done it.

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I do know someone that had sent an inappropriate image and

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basically there was just a lot of trouble in school.

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Teachers had to get involved with things like that

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that has happened and went on because it just got sent around

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People at school were basically just, like, laughing about

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it and saying like just like it's really like,

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like, basically they called her a slag.

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So it's just, like, really upsetting for her.

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She didn't realise what consequences would actually come from it because

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she didn't expect him to send it about.

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She sent a picture to her boyfriend and they fell out and then

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the pictures got around and she got badly bullied for it.

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Sexting could lead to put in your name on the sex

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It can go to the police and it can carry on and stop you from getting

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It could like ruin your career because if you want

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to be a teacher or something and if it goes, like,

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or social media then people will remember

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Let's talk to Kerry Smith who is from one of the world's

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largest children's charities, Plan International UK.

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And Natalie Smith who is the education director of ARC theatre.

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Their shows tour primary and secondary schools and teach

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pupils about the consequences of sexting.

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Hello both of you. Thank you very much for coming on the programme.

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Your reaction to the fact that so many under-17s have been

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investigated by the police, including a five-year-old? I think

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it's true that it's unsurprising that so many under-17s have been

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investigated. The five-year-old is an extreme example. If you heard

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your reporter, she was talking about 500 under the age of 12. It shows

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that we really need to talk to our children at a very young age about

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both sex and relationships education but also technology and what you do

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about taking pictures and sharing those images. They're getting mixed

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up and confused and we need to start the conversations early. There is a

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real difference between a five-year-old potentially sending an

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image of themselves naked presumably innocently and perhaps a 14-year-old

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girlfriend sending it to her boyfriend or vice versa? But if a

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child has the technology, there isn't a difference and young

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children want to be like their peers, like the older teenagers so

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although yes it's probably innocent, if it's got a come radio, video,

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they're curious -- camera. They're curious about it. Something naughty

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sets your adrenaline going so it's exciting, especially if you think

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other people don't know or it might be something you have not done

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before, it makes it exciting. There is a disconnect between it being

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against the law and kids doing it. Send a pic in your bedroom, your

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boyfriend or girlfriend receives it, they might send something back, why

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would you think that is illegal, what do you say to children about

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that when you take your show around? One thing that surprises me is that

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people think their phone is their property, but it's the parent that

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is liable because they're paying the bill. So we tell them very little is

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private anyway especially when it comes to the Internet and anything

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they share on their phone their parents could have access to it and

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be able to see. That is enough toe make them think about what they're

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doing but they haven't even twigged that yet. So thinking about this is

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something they would want to... Anthony says a five-year-old having

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access to a phone to take photos in the first place. As for

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criminalising the act of sexting between children, I'm in two minds.

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Potentially he could be in favour of that. The way the police approach

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this at the moment is pretty sensible isn't it? Yes. It's a

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criminal offence so it already is criminalised. He means taking it

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further? Yes, I mean the police are being sensible. If it's not

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malicious, the police are going, OK, a crime has been committed but we

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are not going to take any action. Although some teenagers who've done

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this "innocently "requests, yes they're breaking the law but they've

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ended up on the Sex Offenders' Register. We have seen a change in

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the way in which police are taking forward these cases because of the

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prevalence of it and the rising number and I think that really

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speaks to one critical issue which is the sex and relationships

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education that we have in our schools, the guidance is being

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reviewed in September this year to be introduced next year and we

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really need to make sure that children are learning about consent,

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what it means to get someone's agreement to do something with them

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but also about technology, so sexting and pornography and there

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was a survey done this year with parents and the British public.

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Seven out of ten people said yes, we want our kids to know about sexting,

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so people know that there is an issue, they want that knowledge

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shared with children and we've really got to make sure that that is

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what is happening in schools. Your charity did some work focussing on

:24:37.:24:39.

sexual assaults in schools in this country. How did that come about and

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is it relevant to the sexting debate? I do think it is. We did a

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piece of research that showed that in four years, reports of sexual

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offences doubled and we also did a Freedom of Information request from

:24:53.:24:56.

the Mors, but what it shows to us because what we are hearing from the

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young people we work with, especially girls, is that they're

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being sexualised, girls are being pressured, sexting is a gendered

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issue, more girls are being asked to share and there's double standards,

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as we saw from the film. The girls are shamed, but not the boys who're

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holding the phones, but just the girls being shamed. There is a an

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issue about what is happening in the environments and the streets and how

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do we educate our people and the communities around them. Parents

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also need to be confident and understand what is happening with

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their children and understand what their children are being taught in

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schools and take that conversation home.

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So let us talk about parents then because absolutely crucial in how

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you bring your kids up and what technology you give them access to.

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What is the advice to parents, Natalie? One question we ask

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students we work with on our broadcast programme is hands up if

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you think you know more about social media, mobile phone technology than

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you parents and every hand went up. Even teachers that spend all their

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days with these young people are sometimes shocked and horrified and

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surprised at some of the answers that they're giving us. I think

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technology's often used as a baby sitting tool, as a peace-keeper, but

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I think in the ways that adults would use technology, children are

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using it very similarly but also quiet differently, it gives

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something different to a young person when they are so connected

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amongst their friends. So what do we do? Do we make sure we have their

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passwords for all their social media apps, do we restrict use of the

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phone? I think we have to educate. Give me some practical tips then,

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what does that mean? There is an app that parents with get where they can

:26:49.:26:52.

monitor up to five phones. They can allow children access to the

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Internet or not. They can allow children the ability to play games

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or not, they can see what is happening on their social media so

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they are connected. Parents have got to have an interest as well. A lot

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of parents probably make assumptions about their child's online use that

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is probably not very close to the truth. We hear especially from young

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people in secondary schools that they have secret e-mail addresses so

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they can sign up to them and get pornography accounts and parents

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don't have a clue about that because they are not doing it themselves.

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This is a the first generation that we have such a gap. When these

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children become parents, they'll carry on with that technology and

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the speed an the change. They share their passwords amongst each other

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in a way parents don't, so one can carry on their streaks for them if

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they get their phone taken off them - I'm not speaking from experience

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here! What you have got to do is work in the school system, work as a

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family to say what is appropriate behaviour, how do we talk about how

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we act online and offline and parents actually, we need the kind

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of information from schools, from providers about how do we talk about

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sex and relationships and bring technology into that conversation

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and we also need to create cultures in our families about asking your

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child if it's OK to take a picture and share it.

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Thank you both very much. Let me know your thoughts on this.

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Get in touch. Still to come, Theresa May gives her first speech since the

:28:43.:28:45.

general election. We'll look ahead to some of the things she's going to

:28:46.:28:50.

say. And Jo can that plays in the quarter-finals of Wimbledon. Will

:28:51.:28:55.

she make the semis and the final? More on that later. Time for the

:28:56.:28:59.

latest news headlines with Joanna. An end to cash-in-hand jobs

:29:00.:29:05.

and changing the rules on the minimum wage are just two

:29:06.:29:08.

of the recommendations in a major review into the way we work.The

:29:09.:29:11.

study - led by a former adviser to Tony Blair, Matthew Taylor -

:29:12.:29:14.

recommends that people working in what's known as the "gig

:29:15.:29:16.

economy", where workers get paid per task, should receive new legal

:29:17.:29:19.

protections - and their employers should make national

:29:20.:29:21.

insurance contributions. President Trump's eldest son

:29:22.:29:26.

is facing further allegations about a meeting he held

:29:27.:29:28.

with a Russian lawyer The New York Times says

:29:29.:29:31.

Donald Trump Junior was informed in advance by email

:29:32.:29:34.

that the information offered by the woman was part

:29:35.:29:37.

of a Russian government effort The Senate Intelligence Committee

:29:38.:29:39.

says it wants to speak to him Rescue teams searching for a missing

:29:40.:29:43.

12-year-old boy have found Specialist boat rescue crews

:29:44.:29:48.

were called to search a stretch Just after 10pm, police said

:29:49.:30:00.

they had found a body in the water. An American military aircraft has

:30:01.:30:04.

crashed in the state of Mississippi, It crashed about 100 miles north

:30:05.:30:07.

of Jackson, the state capital. Officials say all 16 victims

:30:08.:30:11.

were on the Marine Corps aircraft A conference begins in London later

:30:12.:30:15.

which aims to improve access to contraception for large numbers

:30:16.:30:20.

of women in the world's It's thought that more

:30:21.:30:22.

than 200 million women worldwide who want access to family planning

:30:23.:30:27.

services still don't have it. We'll hear from the philanthropist

:30:28.:30:31.

Melinda Gates and the Development Secretary, Priti Patel,

:30:32.:30:33.

just after ten o'clock. That's a summary of

:30:34.:30:42.

the latest BBC News. Let's head to Wimbledon now

:30:43.:30:44.

and talk to Sally Nugent. And we have yet another huge

:30:45.:30:47.

match to look forward to, with Johanna Konta

:30:48.:30:50.

in the quarterfinals. There are some impressive

:30:51.:30:51.

statistics regarding British That is right. Sometimes sport

:30:52.:31:02.

reporting can be all about the statistics and I try and keep them

:31:03.:31:05.

out of it, but the statistics around this are brilliant. The first time

:31:06.:31:11.

in 44 years we have had a British man and a British woman through to

:31:12.:31:15.

the quarterfinals. We are used to it with Andy Murray, quite blase now.

:31:16.:31:19.

He has made it through to the stage for the last ten years on the trot.

:31:20.:31:24.

An incredible achievement. This time we can start to get a bit excited

:31:25.:31:32.

about Jo Konta. She is playing brilliantly. She has always played

:31:33.:31:37.

brilliantly. A few tweaks in her game she has been working on, her

:31:38.:31:41.

serve, stance on the baseline, but what she has done which is fantastic

:31:42.:31:49.

is she has conquered her nerves. She comes out very focused on court. In

:31:50.:31:53.

interviews, she only talks about the match she has just played. She will

:31:54.:31:58.

not look forward and think, am I going to make the semifinals? She

:31:59.:32:01.

will never let herself think about that and she will need her wits

:32:02.:32:06.

about her playing Simona Halep. She will need to keep calm and keep a

:32:07.:32:10.

handle on the nerves. She has done it so well so far, she has a great

:32:11.:32:18.

chance of top secret weapon, baking muffins every day. Every day? Only

:32:19.:32:28.

one is left today. After her match, she bakes a batch for the coaching

:32:29.:32:31.

team. White chocolate and raspberry, vanilla muffins, banana and

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chocolate chip. She has had a request for peanut butter and

:32:38.:32:41.

banana. I know too much about this! It is sad. She is baking and it

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makes her feel, and the whole team love the cake. -- it makes her feel

:32:46.:32:54.

calm. Are we done with Murray? He got through, did all right? I was a

:32:55.:33:02.

bit blase. He plays tomorrow, he is moving brilliantly, better than we

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thought. If you watch him in training, he is not. How he is

:33:07.:33:10.

managing on court, I don't know. It must be adrenaline. I stayed up late

:33:11.:33:22.

last night, it took 5 cents and almost five hours. Gilles Muller

:33:23.:33:28.

knocked out Rafa Nadal. It was epic. I was shouting at the telly. Rafa

:33:29.:33:32.

Nadal has played brilliantly, playing all of his shots, and yet he

:33:33.:33:37.

was not winning the points. A mammoth match in the end. 15-13. It

:33:38.:33:42.

was incredible to watch and you have to say, Gilles Muller played

:33:43.:33:48.

fantastically. You might be able to hear a strange noise on centre

:33:49.:33:52.

court. I can exclusively reveal that is the roof coming across. A little

:33:53.:33:58.

bit colder today. Raid in the air. No plans to have the roof on when

:33:59.:34:03.

they start but they tend to move the roof back and forward at certain

:34:04.:34:08.

points in the fortnight. -- there is rain in the air. Live sporting

:34:09.:34:16.

action at 9:30am from Wimbledon, courtesy of Sally Nugent! Thank you

:34:17.:34:22.

very much. Sally every morning from Wimbledon live. Points from you

:34:23.:34:28.

about the cash in hand economy, the review from Matthew Taylor, the way

:34:29.:34:33.

we work in Britain in 2017. We will talk more about it. E-mail from

:34:34.:34:38.

Clare, so many beauty bars on my street that only accept cash. They

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are full of stuff that do not really speak English, I do not know how

:34:43.:34:47.

they get away with it. It is commonplace throughout London. Roger

:34:48.:34:53.

tweets, let us be realistic, it is not about employee rights, this

:34:54.:34:58.

report, it is about taxes. Simon e-mails, I am a decorator and I

:34:59.:35:02.

spent 18 months working for a very large construction company and I was

:35:03.:35:07.

forced to work ten hours per day, weekends, or lose my job. Holiday

:35:08.:35:12.

pay was taken from me, paying me through an umbrella company and

:35:13.:35:16.

charging me ?1 50 per week simply to administer my wages. The

:35:17.:35:19.

construction industry is ruled by corporate greed at the expense of

:35:20.:35:25.

workers and their rights. The Government will not stop practices

:35:26.:35:30.

like this while umbrella companies exist. Cash in hand is sometimes the

:35:31.:35:35.

only way to make a living wage. Andrew says, I don't mind them going

:35:36.:35:42.

after cash in hand builders, but only if they go after cash in hand

:35:43.:35:49.

corporations -- go after tax avoiding corporations first.

:35:50.:35:52.

One year after taking office, an embattled Theresa May

:35:53.:35:54.

will make her first major speech since losing her majority

:35:55.:35:58.

It's expected the Prime Minster will reaffirm her commitment

:35:59.:36:01.

of governing for all and not just the 'privileged few'.

:36:02.:36:03.

She's also expected to ask for greater cooperation

:36:04.:36:05.

from opposition parties on some of the biggest issues

:36:06.:36:11.

as a "fightback" by Mrs May, but will that convince anxious

:36:12.:36:16.

This morning we're talking to three who say their confidence

:36:17.:36:20.

in the party and Theresa May as PM has shifted since the election.

:36:21.:36:23.

Let's take a look back at her eventful year in charge.

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Brexit means Brexit and we're going to make a success of it.

:36:27.:36:28.

I have just been to Buckingham Palace where Her

:36:29.:36:31.

Majesty the Queen has asked me to form a new government

:36:32.:36:33.

If you're just managing, I want to address you directly.

:36:34.:36:38.

The Article 50 process is now under way

:36:39.:36:42.

and in accordance with the wishes of the British people, the United

:36:43.:36:45.

Kingdom is leaving the European Union.

:36:46.:36:47.

The only way to guarantee certainty and stability for the

:36:48.:36:54.

years ahead is to hold this election and seek your support for the

:36:55.:36:57.

Nothing has changed. Nothing has changed.

:36:58.:37:04.

The Conservative Party has won the most

:37:05.:37:16.

seats and probably the most votes, then it will be encumbant on us

:37:17.:37:19.

to ensure that we have that period of stability and that is

:37:20.:37:22.

Lauren Foskett is a working mum of two who describes herself

:37:23.:37:39.

She says although Theresa May's leadership has been

:37:40.:37:49.

a disappointment, but she's still supporting her,

:37:50.:37:51.

and Adam Fahn is a facilities manager, he's in Brighton,

:37:52.:37:54.

and he says he'd still rather have Mrs May as PM than Jeremy Corbyn.

:37:55.:37:58.

Welcome. Lauren, explain why you are an unhappy Conservative photo. The

:37:59.:38:06.

campaign that Theresa May round was appalling. I think she lacks

:38:07.:38:13.

charisma. As the campaign went on, I felt that she was not somebody who

:38:14.:38:20.

deserved my vote, but I thought the alternative was too horrible to

:38:21.:38:24.

contemplate so I still voted Tory. Appalling? Like a robot, kept

:38:25.:38:29.

repeating the strong and stable mantra. Is this for real? Will she

:38:30.:38:35.

continue to do this? She seemed to do that. She alienate it a lot of

:38:36.:38:40.

core voters. Lorraine, have you been disappointed in her leadership? Yes,

:38:41.:38:48.

I have. She had so much promise. The first woman PM for this century. She

:38:49.:38:54.

came in strong. I liked her approach to Brexit. But it has been

:38:55.:39:00.

undermined. She named a calculated risk which flew in the face of the

:39:01.:39:04.

electorate -- she made. They said they would not be manipulated and

:39:05.:39:10.

the younger votes came out and we are where we are now and she is in a

:39:11.:39:13.

worse position than she was and it will go down in history as an

:39:14.:39:19.

absolute nightmare, really. We will come back in a moment to what you

:39:20.:39:23.

want to see from her in the coming months, let us bring in Adam. Hello.

:39:24.:39:33.

How would you describe Theresa May as Prime Minister and the leader of

:39:34.:39:37.

the Conservative Party? She deserves our support and she needs to stay

:39:38.:39:40.

because the alternative does not bear thinking about for me but I do

:39:41.:39:43.

not then she connected with people enough and explained the policies

:39:44.:39:49.

enough to be able to appeal to more people and it allowed Jeremy Corbyn

:39:50.:39:55.

to attack and win more votes. Is it about her, the way she is, or the

:39:56.:39:59.

Conservative manifesto in the run-up to the general election? I think the

:40:00.:40:05.

last election was more about individual leaders. Whether that is

:40:06.:40:08.

right or wrong, that is what we were seeing. It was both. The way she put

:40:09.:40:13.

it across. But there were things in the manifesto, things discussed in

:40:14.:40:17.

the lead up to the election, that did not need to be discussed and it

:40:18.:40:23.

lost us votes. I can hear you two agreeing. We were talking about it

:40:24.:40:27.

and why did they bring fox hunting into it? Why did they think -- why

:40:28.:40:34.

do you think? Presumably they thought people would be rallied by

:40:35.:40:40.

it but it a near naked people. A lot of the policies seem to be picking

:40:41.:40:44.

on people they know will vote for them and then they alienate them.

:40:45.:40:48.

They did not talk about Brexit which was the thing she went to the

:40:49.:40:53.

country for, Brexit. Lorraine, what do you think about Theresa May's

:40:54.:40:58.

approach to Brexit? Do you know what it is? Yes, I am clear. But I liked

:40:59.:41:08.

her original approach because as a negotiator, you have to go in

:41:09.:41:13.

highly, hard, set out your stall. Then you have got wiggle room to

:41:14.:41:20.

negotiate down. To go in softly, softly, it is not the way. At the

:41:21.:41:25.

end of the day, we have to get the consensus of 26, 27 other countries,

:41:26.:41:30.

that in itself will be a steep mountain to climb. It is about

:41:31.:41:36.

negotiation. The now she is going softer, she recognises the

:41:37.:41:42.

electorate are some of them, they were not quite clued up as to

:41:43.:41:46.

exactly what Brexit meant and what they were giving up. The fact she

:41:47.:41:51.

wants to have some consensus across the party lines, I think that is a

:41:52.:41:58.

move. In the run-up to the election, it was talked about, though more

:41:59.:42:01.

bipartisan approach to discussing what will be best for the country.

:42:02.:42:08.

Forget party lines. Forget that you are Labour, liberal, whatever. Get

:42:09.:42:11.

the best heads together to do what is best for the country. It is not

:42:12.:42:15.

about her running out of ideas. It is about Labour four example has the

:42:16.:42:21.

same ideas in certain quarters as the Conservatives. It is about let

:42:22.:42:27.

us get consensus early on because, God knows, she has not got a

:42:28.:42:31.

majority in the House, time is of the essence. Yes, her approach, I

:42:32.:42:37.

think it is right. Do you like what we are told is going to be in the

:42:38.:42:41.

speech today where she will say the opposition parties to contribute,

:42:42.:42:48.

not just criticise? Yes, I do. She has not got much choice now. I

:42:49.:42:52.

really do not like how adversarial our politics is and it is so

:42:53.:42:58.

combative and it is about winning points and we really need to come

:42:59.:43:02.

together as a country. I do not think she has any choice and I think

:43:03.:43:05.

it would be nice to see the opposition coming on board. Adam,

:43:06.:43:11.

William Hague, for a Tory Party leader, I do not what you thought of

:43:12.:43:16.

him, writing any newspaper today has this warning to Conservative MPs,

:43:17.:43:19.

any MP thinking it might be better to jeopardise the Government than to

:43:20.:43:24.

swallow a compromise from time to time, he means about Brexit, should

:43:25.:43:28.

get clear now that such thinking is naive and dangerous in the extreme.

:43:29.:43:33.

What do you think about that? We voted for Brexit as a country. There

:43:34.:43:37.

are a number of opportunities that will come out of it. We have to

:43:38.:43:43.

negotiate. But we must remember what people voted for. We must deliver

:43:44.:43:49.

that. But we have to negotiate. What do you think specifically people

:43:50.:43:54.

voted for? I think different people voted for different things. There

:43:55.:44:02.

was certainly some... I think people made a decision ultimately to leave

:44:03.:44:08.

the EU, but not to stop trading, not to stop visiting, not to stop people

:44:09.:44:11.

coming here and all of the other things we do together. It was just

:44:12.:44:18.

not to have a political union. Yes. Agreed. The immigration was... To

:44:19.:44:32.

others, it was a big issue. But to the centre, it is about control. We

:44:33.:44:37.

already have a lot of our own control, we are not part of the

:44:38.:44:42.

Schengen zone. That was the problem. We were not given enough information

:44:43.:44:47.

and it was not there to give. There were lies and scaremongering,

:44:48.:44:51.

blatant lies, how do you make a decision based on that? Let us not

:44:52.:44:57.

rerun history. What do you want? Cross-party consensus on Brexit,

:44:58.:45:02.

what else do you want? Mrs May says it is not just about Brexit, her

:45:03.:45:07.

premiership. What else do you want from her as a conservative voter? I

:45:08.:45:11.

want to look at other policies like housing. I think... Building more.

:45:12.:45:20.

Affordable housing. Also landlords, section 24, I would like to have

:45:21.:45:24.

that looked into because that supports local authorities, issues

:45:25.:45:34.

about landlords over what the last Conservative administration did, and

:45:35.:45:37.

in terms of making sure that we have a large pool of housing, if the

:45:38.:45:42.

local authorities cannot support that, we need to help the landlords,

:45:43.:45:46.

instead of taxing them. Are you a landlord? Sky yes, I am. I thought

:45:47.:45:55.

you might be! Just to be transparent! What about you, Lauren?

:45:56.:46:01.

I would like to see cross-party consensus about some sort of plan

:46:02.:46:05.

for social care. Both of my parents went into a care home and their

:46:06.:46:09.

house has to be sold to pay for that. My father unfortunately died

:46:10.:46:13.

but my brother is in a care home now and as it stands there will be

:46:14.:46:17.

nothing left wants the care is paid for. Some of the policies they

:46:18.:46:21.

touched on in the election sounded like they might be fair but there

:46:22.:46:24.

was not enough information and I would quite like to see that

:46:25.:46:28.

discussed but it needs to be a broad discussion. Adam, final thought?

:46:29.:46:35.

Keep going, you're our Prime Minister, a strong and stable

:46:36.:46:39.

economy which will deliver us good, health care education, all the

:46:40.:46:42.

things that I think we all want no matter who we voted for, so get on

:46:43.:46:46.

and do it and you've got my support. Thank you very much. Thank you.

:46:47.:46:52.

Likewise. Thank you. Thank you to all of my guests. Good luck and

:46:53.:46:55.

thank you very much for coming on the programme.

:46:56.:46:56.

Coming up, Melinda Gates and Secretary of State

:46:57.:46:59.

for International Development Priti Patel joins us to explain why

:47:00.:47:02.

millions more women in the poorest parts of the world need better

:47:03.:47:08.

is going to make today, she's going to talk

:47:09.:47:13.

More of us are self-employed than ever before and more of us

:47:14.:47:17.

are taking up jobs in the so-called gig economy - people get paid

:47:18.:47:20.

for individual jobs rather than getting a weekly wage.

:47:21.:47:23.

According to one definition, that's "labour market characterised

:47:24.:47:24.

by the prevalence of short-term contracts or freelance work,

:47:25.:47:27.

But a lot of workers find their jobs are insecure and exploitative.

:47:28.:47:31.

The person tasked by the government to review the country's working

:47:32.:47:33.

practices, Matthew Taylor, will report back

:47:34.:47:36.

Now we can speak to Megan Brown, a courier, working for Deliveroo,

:47:37.:47:50.

Paula Ventura, a government cleaner campaigning for the London Living

:47:51.:47:53.

Wage, which is ?9.75 an hour, Joeli Brearley,

:47:54.:47:55.

from Pregnant Then Screwed, who was sacked when pregnant

:47:56.:47:58.

and Diane Nicol, employment lawyer who helped with Matthew Taylor's

:47:59.:48:04.

working for Deliveroo means you are technically an independent

:48:05.:48:16.

contractor delivering food from restaurants

:48:17.:48:19.

for them to customers, not an employee of theirs.

:48:20.:48:22.

Do you feel like an independent contractor?

:48:23.:48:26.

No, I don't think I'm an independent contractor, I don't think I'm

:48:27.:48:32.

running my own business. This is complete nonsense. OK. Because you

:48:33.:48:36.

are seen as an independent contractor, up until now, then you

:48:37.:48:40.

don't get sick pay, minimum wage et cetera. Indeed. The review is going

:48:41.:48:45.

to suggest that you are a dependent contractor because you are

:48:46.:48:49.

controlled and supervised by your company, does that sound about

:48:50.:48:54.

right? Yes. This is based on the worker status which already stands

:48:55.:48:58.

in law which would entitle us to national minimum wage, holiday pay,

:48:59.:49:07.

things like that. Diane, how would you define this? The difficulty

:49:08.:49:11.

before has been the lack of clarity between someone who is truly

:49:12.:49:16.

self-employed and workers that Megan's just referred to. The Taylor

:49:17.:49:22.

review recommendations want a distinction between the two and they

:49:23.:49:25.

want to make it clear to employers and workers alike that that status

:49:26.:49:32.

exists because, quite often, more unscrupulous engagers and employers

:49:33.:49:38.

deny worker status. Obviously it requires the rights that they don't

:49:39.:49:43.

want to follow through on like holiday pay. One of the

:49:44.:49:47.

recommendations is that there is clarity in law. They need to issue

:49:48.:49:53.

them with a statement of terms and conditions just as employers are

:49:54.:49:57.

entitled to so that they and their employers and engagers are really

:49:58.:50:01.

clear on their rights and responsibilities too. Thank you for

:50:02.:50:09.

coming on the programme. You clean offices in the Loos of a Government

:50:10.:50:14.

department from 5 am to 11 am, is that right? Until 9 am. So each

:50:15.:50:23.

morning? Yes. Are you paid the minimum wage? Yes. But it's not

:50:24.:50:34.

enough? It's not enough because, I see my colleagues, we work so hard,

:50:35.:50:39.

they are short staffed, they don't book anybody else to help us and the

:50:40.:50:43.

staff are feeling tired and then last week we had a meeting and then

:50:44.:50:50.

the company said we are talking with the owners of the building, then

:50:51.:50:54.

they just decide they're not going to pay for the living wage. As we

:50:55.:51:02.

knew, many buildings in the same road, Whitehall, they pay the living

:51:03.:51:07.

wage, the same company. That is why my colleagues and me were talking

:51:08.:51:12.

about this. We are ask ourselves why they don't pay us. Just to be clear,

:51:13.:51:17.

the company that employs you is not paying you the London living wage

:51:18.:51:22.

which is ?9.75 an hour, so that is above the minimum wage, but does pay

:51:23.:51:26.

the London living wage to other employees? No. No it doesn't or it

:51:27.:51:34.

does? No, they don't pay to us in our building but the same company

:51:35.:51:40.

pay for like number 22 Whitehall, they pay to FCO, the London living

:51:41.:51:45.

wage. Jo understood. They don't pay it to us. Why do you think that is?

:51:46.:51:50.

They said they want to consult the owners of the building and they

:51:51.:51:53.

decide that they cannot pay the living wage to us. What do you think

:51:54.:52:00.

about that? I think it's wrong because we work hard from 5am and

:52:01.:52:07.

then the company win money because it's business, yes, and then I think

:52:08.:52:12.

they should look after the staff more. If we are feeling good, we

:52:13.:52:17.

work better and then they're going to get profit as well. They should

:52:18.:52:28.

pay the London living wage because my husband and me, we are

:52:29.:52:33.

campaigning for five years now, my husband left the company now I'm

:52:34.:52:38.

just working there for 12 years. I think it's unfair because I should

:52:39.:52:41.

trust in a company that I'm working for a long time there, but I've just

:52:42.:52:47.

concluded that they don't do anything to help employees, they

:52:48.:52:51.

don't care about us. Then I feel really bad. Yes. Yes.

:52:52.:52:56.

Is this review going to touch on the living wage, do you know? We don't

:52:57.:53:01.

comment specifically on the living wage but a we do comment on

:53:02.:53:07.

enforcement of living a minimum wage and enhancing enforcement so that

:53:08.:53:10.

people like yourself and your husband will be able to complain

:53:11.:53:16.

about the fact that there is nonpayment and then the Government

:53:17.:53:21.

through the HMRC will be able to enforce those wages. Also I think I

:53:22.:53:26.

heard you earlier talking to someone about agency workers and umbrella

:53:27.:53:30.

companies and that is all going to be reviewed and looked at as well in

:53:31.:53:34.

relation to providing much more clarity and transparency around what

:53:35.:53:39.

agency workers and those who're A typical and perhaps more capable of

:53:40.:53:44.

exploitation are paid. Let me bring in Joeeli. Hi there --

:53:45.:53:52.

Joeli. You were sacked when you told your boss you were pregnant which is

:53:53.:53:57.

shocking. What protections are you looking for from this Government

:53:58.:54:04.

review? We'd like to see greater parity between self-employed people,

:54:05.:54:08.

people on zero hour contracts, women who run own businesses and women in

:54:09.:54:13.

precarious work because, at the moment, workers have very little

:54:14.:54:17.

rights in terms of maternity so they have no right to time off for

:54:18.:54:26.

antenatal appointments, paid work. Self-employed women have no rights

:54:27.:54:32.

to maternity leave, yet the benefits are dependent on them taking

:54:33.:54:38.

maternity leave. People who're self-employed don't get 90% of pay

:54:39.:54:43.

for the first six weeks which employees are entitled to and men

:54:44.:54:48.

have no right to paternity leave if they're self-employed. So we'd

:54:49.:54:52.

really lake to see greater parity between those two types of

:54:53.:54:54.

employees. Is that something that is covered?

:54:55.:54:58.

Without giving too much away, I think the nature of the

:54:59.:55:02.

self-employed rights to maternity and paternity is something that is

:55:03.:55:07.

part of a recommendation and there is also a recommendation around

:55:08.:55:12.

consolidation of the guidance on the rights that pregnant workers and

:55:13.:55:18.

those on maternity leave have. There is a recommendation that the

:55:19.:55:22.

legislation is looked at slightly longer term. Obviously what we are

:55:23.:55:27.

trying to achieve here is a balance of rights and responsibilities

:55:28.:55:31.

between the rights of the worker and the responsibilities of the

:55:32.:55:34.

employers and engagers, so there are recommendations on those points. OK.

:55:35.:55:42.

That sounds potentially hopeful, Joeli but Diane can't give much away

:55:43.:55:46.

because the report isn't officially released until an hour or so. Claire

:55:47.:55:51.

says, I have worked as a self-employed contractor being paid

:55:52.:55:55.

per job. I think the company that provide this is can sometimes

:55:56.:55:59.

exploit workers, giving them set schedules to work. So there is no

:56:00.:56:04.

flexibility, putting pressure on me to take extra jobs and shifts but

:56:05.:56:07.

still not giving sick pay, holiday pay or a pension or any kind of

:56:08.:56:11.

benefit. I'm not saying that every company acts this way, but the one I

:56:12.:56:16.

worked for did. I felt harassed and blackmailed to keep my job with

:56:17.:56:22.

them, taking shifts I did not want and yet I was "self-employed". That

:56:23.:56:29.

is the mischief that we are trying to address in the report which is

:56:30.:56:38.

the honest approach to status and it sounds to me - I wouldn't obviously

:56:39.:56:42.

give legal advice - but it sounds to me that in the new world that's been

:56:43.:56:46.

recommended that person would fall into the category of dependent

:56:47.:56:50.

worker and be entitled to holiday pay and so on. OK. Regarding what

:56:51.:56:55.

you have told us, we have got a statement from the Cabinet Office,

:56:56.:56:59.

they say: We outsource our cleaning services to a private company which

:57:00.:57:04.

is responsible for setting pay. The Government is committed to tackling

:57:05.:57:09.

low pay and we ensure all of our contractors comply with statutory

:57:10.:57:16.

and legal obligations. With regards to yourself and Deliveroo, this

:57:17.:57:22.

statement: Riders receive ?9. 50 across the UK, above the national

:57:23.:57:26.

average. We want to offer high paid flexible work but want to offer the

:57:27.:57:31.

riders benefits, they value the flexibility that self-employment

:57:32.:57:35.

provides. If a recent poll, 82% of riders said flexible work is what

:57:36.:57:39.

attracted them to Deliveroo. The report is out in an hour. We'll see

:57:40.:57:43.

what it says then. Thank you all very much.

:57:44.:57:46.

Coming up, Melinda Gates and Secretary of State

:57:47.:57:48.

for International Development Priti Patel joins us to explain why

:57:49.:57:51.

millions more women in the poorest parts of the world need better

:57:52.:57:54.

Let's get the latest weather update with Benhaz Akhgar.

:57:55.:58:01.

We can look forward to some rain today, welcome news for gardeners

:58:02.:58:09.

and growers after a dry few days. We have seen some rain this morning.

:58:10.:58:19.

Also some sunshine. This was the scene in Troon in Scotland. The

:58:20.:58:26.

reason for the rain, this weather front is bringing it, it's coming

:58:27.:58:31.

west-to-east the rest of today and into this evening. We have a trough

:58:32.:58:36.

bringing a few showers through Scotland but they're mainly light in

:58:37.:58:40.

nature. Sunshine in-between the showers, the best of the drier

:58:41.:58:43.

weather for Northern Ireland. The rain continuing to push its way east

:58:44.:58:46.

across England and Wales through the afternoon. Northern parts are the

:58:47.:58:52.

best areas today if you are looking for drier conditions.

:58:53.:58:55.

Northern Ireland enjoying the best of the brightness as well. Into

:58:56.:59:00.

England and Wales, a lot of cloud. The rain turning patchy for a time

:59:01.:59:04.

but intensifying again into late afternoon. Essentially it's feeling

:59:05.:59:11.

much fresher with temperatures below for this time of year. A bit breezy

:59:12.:59:16.

along the coasts. If you are going to Wimbledon, a few showers likely.

:59:17.:59:23.

Temperatures up to 18 Celsius, feeling fresher than the past few

:59:24.:59:27.

days. The rain will continue to fall across England and waeltion. Further

:59:28.:59:32.

north, they'll tend to clear away. It will be a chilly night. South and

:59:33.:59:38.

east will hang on to the rain and it will be a little blustery as well.

:59:39.:59:42.

Temperatures should be more comfortable for sleeping tonight,

:59:43.:59:45.

ranging between seven to 14. Tomorrow we'll see the rain across

:59:46.:59:49.

the south-east first thing. That will clear through and high pressure

:59:50.:59:52.

is in charge of the weather. We can look forward to plenty of sunshine

:59:53.:59:56.

with light winds. It will feel pleasant, it's a lovely looking day

:59:57.:00:01.

with temperatures tomorrow ranging between 14 to about 22. We are

:00:02.:00:04.

feeling much more comfortable and less humid. By the time we head into

:00:05.:00:09.

Thursday, we have the risk of a few showers across parts of the north

:00:10.:00:13.

and west. Equally sunny spells to look forward to. The best of the

:00:14.:00:16.

drier and brighter weather across the south-east. Temperatures ranging

:00:17.:00:20.

between 14 to about 23. Remaining cloudy as we head towards the end of

:00:21.:00:22.

the week. Hello, it's Tuesday, it's 10

:00:23.:00:28.

o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire. In major report into the way we work

:00:29.:00:38.

in Britain calls for sweeping changes. Quite often, more

:00:39.:00:49.

unscrupulous employers deny the status of workers because it

:00:50.:00:53.

requires a tier of rights but they do not want to follow through on. We

:00:54.:00:56.

will talk more about the report. Do you accept cash in hand or do

:00:57.:01:01.

you always pay cash in hand? Window painting, the decorating? Do

:01:02.:01:06.

you take cash? Do you pay tax on it? Melinda Gates joins us to explain

:01:07.:01:13.

why millions more women need better When you travel the world, you meet

:01:14.:01:27.

so many women that will tell you that if they can space the births of

:01:28.:01:32.

their children, they can feed and educate them and that is what they

:01:33.:01:38.

want to do. The foundation is promising ?300 million to help pay

:01:39.:01:40.

for the contraception. You can hear that full interview

:01:41.:01:42.

in a few minutes' time. And we'll speak to the singer,

:01:43.:01:44.

Ragsy, about plans to almost double The Welsh Government wants

:01:45.:01:47.

1 million people to be Here's Joanna Gosling

:01:48.:01:52.

in the BBC Newsroom An end to cash-in-hand jobs

:01:53.:02:04.

and changing the rules on the minimum wage are just two

:02:05.:02:08.

of the recommendations in a major to Tony Blair, Matthew Taylor,

:02:09.:02:11.

recommends that people working in what's known as the gig economy,

:02:12.:02:18.

where workers get paid per task, should receive

:02:19.:02:21.

new legal protections to stop There is a problem about the quality

:02:22.:02:35.

of work amongst lower paid, lower skilled workers. What we have to do

:02:36.:02:39.

is tackle exploitation so there are too many people who suffer one-sided

:02:40.:02:44.

flexibility, their employers have lots of flexibility but it is not

:02:45.:02:48.

how it feels to them, they are insecure, they do not feel they have

:02:49.:02:50.

a voice at work. President Trump's eldest son

:02:51.:02:53.

is facing further allegations about a meeting he held

:02:54.:02:55.

with a Russian lawyer The New York Times says

:02:56.:02:57.

Donald Trump Junior was informed in advance by email

:02:58.:03:04.

that the information offered by the woman was part

:03:05.:03:06.

of a Russian government effort The Senate Intelligence Committee

:03:07.:03:08.

says it wants to speak to him A body has been found by police

:03:09.:03:12.

searching for 12-year-old Owen Jenkins who fell

:03:13.:03:15.

into the River Trent in Nottingham. A family member said the schoolboy

:03:16.:03:18.

was a hero who had gone in to save a female friend

:03:19.:03:21.

who was struggling. Nottinghamshire Police

:03:22.:03:23.

said in a statement, "Our thoughts are with the family

:03:24.:03:24.

during this time." An American military aircraft has

:03:25.:03:33.

crashed in the state of Mississippi, It crashed about 100 miles north

:03:34.:03:35.

of Jackson, the state capital. Officials say all 16 victims

:03:36.:03:39.

were on the Marine Corps aircraft A day after the Iraqi Prime Minister

:03:40.:03:53.

declared victory in the battle to retake Mosul from so-called Islamic

:03:54.:03:56.

State, Amnesty International says the fighting has been catastrophic

:03:57.:04:01.

for civilians. It has accused so-called Islamic State of using

:04:02.:04:05.

human shields and says Iraqi and coalition forces fail to take

:04:06.:04:10.

adequate precautions. It is calling for an independent consultation to

:04:11.:04:14.

assess the scale of civilian deaths. A conference begins in London later

:04:15.:04:17.

which aims to improve access to contraception for large numbers

:04:18.:04:20.

of women in the world's It's thought that more

:04:21.:04:22.

than 200 million women worldwide who want access to family planning

:04:23.:04:25.

services still don't have it. We'll hear from the philanthropist

:04:26.:04:28.

Melinda Gates and the Development Now take a look at this dashcam

:04:29.:04:30.

footage of a driver who seems It's been released

:04:31.:04:34.

by police in Norfolk. Isn't that crazy? Norfolk police say

:04:35.:05:37.

the driver was given a warning letter. They want other people to

:05:38.:05:42.

send in videos of people breaking the law.

:05:43.:05:43.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:05:44.:05:45.

Liz has a bit more sport. Good morning.

:05:46.:05:53.

Manic Monday really lived up to its billing, with one shock exit,

:05:54.:05:56.

one match postponed and, of course, two British

:05:57.:05:59.

players through to the quarterfinals of the singles.

:06:00.:06:01.

44 years ago was the last time we could say that.

:06:02.:06:04.

And the last woman to win Wimbledon was Virginia Wade in the year

:06:05.:06:07.

of the Queen's silver jubilee back in 1977.

:06:08.:06:09.

She takes on Simona Halep this afternoon, after a really tough

:06:10.:06:19.

It is those positions, though situations, that I dream of and

:06:20.:06:30.

dreamt of when I was a little girl, and now, to be a part of those

:06:31.:06:34.

battles on big stages, so I think that is what it is about, to be a

:06:35.:06:37.

professional athlete. Andy Murray reached

:06:38.:06:43.

the quarterfinals for the tenth year in a row, thanks to a fairly

:06:44.:06:44.

straight-forward win After all the injury worries before

:06:45.:06:50.

the tournament started he says Two weeks ago, I was resting and a

:06:51.:07:02.

little bit concerned. When you have issues just a few days before a big

:07:03.:07:06.

event, it is frustrating. I have managed it well and I think I have

:07:07.:07:10.

played some good stuff. Today was the best I have played so far in the

:07:11.:07:16.

tournament. Yeah, I am doing well, so hopefully, keep it up.

:07:17.:07:21.

Roger Federer is through but there won't be a third Wimbledon title

:07:22.:07:27.

for Rafael Nadal this year - he's out, beaten by Gilles Muller

:07:28.:07:30.

It was 15-13 in the decider and the pair were on court

:07:31.:07:34.

That meant Novak Djokovic's match had to be put back to today.

:07:35.:07:39.

There's been some criticism of the scheduling of matches yesterday.

:07:40.:07:42.

World number one Angelique Kerber said she was "really surprised"

:07:43.:07:50.

to find herself on Court Two, after she lost.

:07:51.:07:53.

Only two of the eight women's singles matches

:07:54.:07:54.

British and Irish Lions prop Kyle Sinckler has apologised

:07:55.:08:02.

after he was arrested during a night out in Auckland, following the drawn

:08:03.:08:05.

Police said a man was placed under arrest but not charged

:08:06.:08:09.

following a minor disorder in the early hours

:08:10.:08:11.

The Lions tour manager said Sinckler had been reminded of his duties.

:08:12.:08:18.

Romelu Lukaku says he'll settle for nothing less

:08:19.:08:24.

than titles every season, after completing his ?75 million

:08:25.:08:26.

move from Everton to Manchester United.

:08:27.:08:31.

He trained with his new teammates for the first time yesterday

:08:32.:08:35.

on United's pre-season tour of the USA.

:08:36.:08:40.

Lukaku also says his best friend Paul Pogba played a "big role"

:08:41.:08:43.

After a rest day, the Tour de France resumes in the next few

:08:44.:08:48.

minutes with a stage to favour the sprinters.

:08:49.:08:50.

Chris Froome holds the overall lead but he'll have to make do

:08:51.:08:53.

without teammate Geraint Thomas who crashed on Sunday

:08:54.:08:55.

That is all from me for now. We will see you at 10:30am. Thank you.

:08:56.:09:09.

Millions of women in some of the poorest parts of the world

:09:10.:09:12.

Now one of the richest women in the world, Melinda Gates,

:09:13.:09:16.

The issue is being discussed at a big international

:09:17.:09:20.

When a similar event was held five years ago, a pledge was made

:09:21.:09:24.

for contraception to reach 120 million extra women by 2020.

:09:25.:09:26.

Today, both the UK Government and the Gates Foundation have

:09:27.:09:30.

committed extra cash to help that target be met - but is it enough?

:09:31.:09:35.

Earlier I spoke to Melinda Gates and to Priti Patel, who is

:09:36.:09:37.

the Secretary of State for International Development.

:09:38.:09:39.

Thank you both very much for talking to us.

:09:40.:09:46.

Let me ask you, first of all, Melinda Gates, why contraception is

:09:47.:09:49.

so important to women and girls in the poorest countries?

:09:50.:09:51.

Well, when you travel the world, you meet so

:09:52.:09:53.

many women that will tell you that if they can space the births of

:09:54.:09:57.

their children, they can feed and educate them and that's

:09:58.:10:00.

So if we allow them to have these tools, if we offer

:10:01.:10:12.

them, and we teach them about their bodies,

:10:13.:10:15.

they will readily take them up because they

:10:16.:10:17.

know it makes a huge difference for lifting themselves and their

:10:18.:10:20.

So there is a direct link, you are saying,

:10:21.:10:23.

between contraception and education for women?

:10:24.:10:24.

And women will tell you all over the world, many of them

:10:25.:10:29.

know about their bodies, they know about

:10:30.:10:31.

contraceptives, but they need to know more.

:10:32.:10:33.

And then once they have that information, they readily take them

:10:34.:10:35.

up because they want to space the births

:10:36.:10:37.

of their children, because

:10:38.:10:41.

they will say, if I can space the births of my

:10:42.:10:44.

children, I can then feed my kids and I can educate them.

:10:45.:10:47.

And for them their future is all about educating their kids.

:10:48.:10:50.

155 million women in the developing world currently use no

:10:51.:10:52.

We don't fund it and the supply chains are broken, and so

:10:53.:11:01.

in places like Senegal in West Africa, contraceptives, until we

:11:02.:11:03.

started this programme, had been stocked out 80% of the time.

:11:04.:11:06.

So, women will tell you, I leave my field, I have to make

:11:07.:11:09.

up a reason for my husband that I'm going into town,

:11:10.:11:17.

and then I get to the clinic and what I want isn't there.

:11:18.:11:20.

It's literally a life and death prices

:11:21.:11:22.

You are, your foundation, the Bill and Melinda

:11:23.:11:25.

Gates Foundation, is promising an extra $375 million.

:11:26.:11:26.

That's an extraordinary sum of money, over the

:11:27.:11:28.

next four years, for global family planning efforts.

:11:29.:11:30.

What is driving you to focus the money

:11:31.:11:34.

Because Bill and I see the difference it makes, see how

:11:35.:11:38.

transformative it is in families' lives, and if women can take these

:11:39.:11:42.

tools up, and we see this demographic bulge that's happening,

:11:43.:11:46.

1.2 billion adolescents, it's the biggest population of adolescents

:11:47.:11:51.

we've ever had in the history of the Earth

:11:52.:11:55.

developing world and if we don't offer them contraceptives, you are

:11:56.:11:59.

basically putting them into a life of destitute poverty.

:12:00.:12:04.

Whereas if you can offer a girl contraceptives,

:12:05.:12:06.

She will tell you, I want to stay in school,

:12:07.:12:09.

I don't want to have that first baby until I'm ready.

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And today, one in five girls in the developing world

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under the age of 18 die because of a pregnancy.

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So we know this is one of the most important things we can

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do and we are offering this money to really go after

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Priti Patel, the UK Government is pledging an extra 45

:12:24.:12:27.

million a year, I think, for the next five years.

:12:28.:12:29.

Because, as Melinda has said and explained, the

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need, the demand is enormous in the world.

:12:36.:12:40.

You know, there are still in excess of 214 million women and

:12:41.:12:42.

girls who simply do not have access to modern methods of family planning

:12:43.:12:46.

Just explain to our audience why it's the

:12:47.:12:49.

responsibility of British taxpayers to fund that.

:12:50.:12:54.

Well, we are world leaders, obviously, working with our

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partners such as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and

:12:57.:12:58.

many others in this whole area because of the wider implications.

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You know, in terms of poverty

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in particular - that women and girls are trapped in

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that vicious cycle of poverty if they come out of education.

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If they live in rural and poorer parts of

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the developing world, they have no access to modern methods of

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That means that their families are just going to increase,

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they don't get to space out the number of children that they have,

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and they are trapped in that vicious cycle and that is not good for them.

:13:28.:13:30.

It's certainly not good for their countries as well

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when those young women and girls could get their

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education and then become educated, and even go to work as well and

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The great thing about the summit that we have

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taking place today in London is that we have a range

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of our partners who are attending, but also finance

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ministers, health ministers and development ministers from many of

:13:51.:13:52.

these countries who themselves know that they need to do more work in

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this area and they want to work with us, the British Government,

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and with the partners as well, to ensure that

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we can deal with those supply issues.

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Those really crunch supply issues and get in contraceptives to

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You will know, there will be people watching you who will say, we have

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poverty in this country, we don't need to be spending British

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taxpayers' money funding contraception for women in the

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Well, I would disagree with that pretty strongly,

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because, of course, you know, we have to do our bit as well as a

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world leader when it comes to not just leading the world on aid and

:14:28.:14:31.

development, but also in this area as well.

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We are working with UK firms, pharmaceutical companies as well, to

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really lower the price of commodities, to really, you know,

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get the commodities to the women and girls that need this.

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But also, to tackle some of the big challenges

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The population bulge in developing countries is just going

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And of course that has big pressures on our resources,

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it has an enormous pressure on migration,

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on the lack of jobs that

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are being created in poor countries, and we are trying to work to tackle

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some of those major global challenges.

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We do this not on our own, obviously, but with our partners

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and the United Kingdom is stepping up in this area.

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Melinda Gates, you are Catholic, the Catholic Church is

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How much of an issue is that for you?

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What I know and what I believe is, I'm in and out of these places, this

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makes a difference in women's lives. Emboyered women transform societies.

:15:49.:15:53.

The Pope probably knows that. He's described as an enlightened Pope.

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Yet the view about contraception that it's banned in the eyes of the

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Catholic Church hasn't shifted. Do you think it will? I don't know. I

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can't predict what he will do, but what I know about this Pope is that

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he's lived amongst the poor and seen women die. So I think if you believe

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in women, you offer them the right tools and offer them ways to be able

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to space the births of the children so their children don't die.

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Do you think that could change over time? It just may take a long time?

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There are different views on this in the Catholic Church.

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I can't predict what he will do but what I know

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about this Pope is that he has lived amongst the poor, he has lived with

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So I think if you believe in women you

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And you offer them ways to be able to space

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the births of their children so that their children don't die.

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Do you think that could change over time?

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And there are different views on this in the

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But that's to prevent disease, that's different.

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But they also see the difference it makes in families'

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lives, to not have six and seven children.

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Donald Trump has blocked US funds going to any organisation

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involved in family planning, abortion advice and care overseas.

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I think that any time you block something

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that is right for women you're not saying that you're really for women.

:17:39.:17:41.

Now, this administration has put on a policy we've seen under other

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I can't express what exactly he stands for in terms

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of women but I'll tell you that if you're for women you fund family

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planning so Bill and I are working with Congress to make sure that this

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Britain will have men's and women's quarter-finalists at Wimbledon

:17:56.:18:05.

Johanna Konta beat France's Caroline Garcia in a three hour match

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on court one yesterday to become the first British woman to reach

:18:10.:18:12.

Speaking after her victory, she said it was what she had dreamed

:18:13.:18:16.

Meanwhile defending champion and top seed Andy Murray then saw off

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Frenchman Benoit Paire on Centre Court.

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Johanna Konta at the top of the screen

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was up against Caroline Garcia in a match of small margins.

:18:26.:18:28.

Garcia supporters saw her take the second

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set and Garcia had served brilliantly but this was match point

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and this was Wimbledon, and this is a critical mistake.

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Give Johanna Konta on occasion, she'll rise to it.

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It's those situations that I dreamt of when I was a little girl.

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And even now to be a part of those battles on big stages.

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You're now the first British woman into a

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quarterfinal at Wimbledon since Jo Durie in 1984.

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Andy Murray was playing Benoit Paire of

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France, 46 in the world, at Wimbledon Murray had never lost

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Tie-break in the first, 6-4 in the second, Murray was

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COMMENTATOR: That's too big, too good.

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In the third set Murray got heated with the umpire

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No matter, Murray said it was the best he'd hit the ball

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in the tournament so far and Paire ultimately couldn't match it.

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UMPIRE: Game, set and match, Murray, 3-0.

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So Murray plays again tomorrow, but Konta's quarter final

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is first up today - she faces a tough match against

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So is it possible for two Brits to go all the way?

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And does this mark a new golden age in British tennis?

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We can speak now to Amanda Owens, a former professional tennis player,

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And Jo Durie, who was the last British woman to reach the Wimbledon

:19:58.:20:08.

She was formerly ranked number five in the world.

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And, Andy Murray's former coach also joins us. Jo, what do you think of

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Jo's contest so far? Fantastic, it's great to see a British woman in the

:20:28.:20:31.

second week. We have always known Andy Murray can get there but Jo for

:20:32.:20:36.

the first time has played really tough tennis. I'm not at all

:20:37.:20:40.

surprised because she looks very good in the top ten mix now and

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believes in herself. Miles, what do you think of her achievement thus

:20:46.:20:48.

far? Not only in this tournament but in the last couple of years, it's

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been amazing. She's one of these players who has really turned

:20:55.:20:57.

herself around. There were not many people marking her out for this kind

:20:58.:21:02.

of success. When she burst on to the stage in the Aussie Open, often that

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is not backed up but she's gone from strength-to-strength and is

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definitely in the mix to win this tournament. You think so? No doubt

:21:11.:21:17.

about it. I've been fortunate to work on a couple of her matches. One

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of her opponents a couple of years ago was really high quality, she

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could have panicked there and she absolutely stayed the course, played

:21:30.:21:32.

really good tennis, she's got the weapons as well to play tennis on

:21:33.:21:36.

her own terms. There is a lot of the girls in the mix who I think just

:21:37.:21:41.

about everybody left in the drawer, there's a case for why they could

:21:42.:21:44.

win the tournament but Jo Konta's been very, very impressive. Jo Durie

:21:45.:21:50.

when Miles was say ing she could win it, I saw you nodding in agreement.

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Look, any one of them could win it, the last eight, they're playing

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fantastic tennis. I was surprised that Jo was the bookies' favourite.

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You have got Venus Williams in there who's won five times soI would have

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thought she would be the favourite, but when you get to this stage, you

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are playing well, used to playing and used to the grass, so any one of

:22:15.:22:19.

the eight could win so why not Jo. OK. Amanda Owens, you used to play

:22:20.:22:24.

tennis yourself professionally. You were nodding in agreement when Miles

:22:25.:22:29.

said over the last few years Jo's sort of strengthened mentally as

:22:30.:22:33.

well. Wa kind of work has she been doing? Absolutely. I agree with

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Miles and Jo and Jo hi it's nice to see you both, by the way and Jo

:22:39.:22:43.

picked me out as a tennis player a long time ago. Jo Konta, has

:22:44.:22:50.

incredible mental strength and is brilliant under pressure. We are

:22:51.:22:54.

seeing a player who, for the first time in a long time since Jo Durie,

:22:55.:22:59.

that we have a player that can cope with the pressure but who plays the

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points. She has enormous self-belief but the composure in her last match

:23:08.:23:11.

and yesterday was just immense. It shows that she will go all the way.

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This time in this tournament? Yes, but she's got the capability to win

:23:19.:23:25.

a Grand Slam. The way she played yesterday and her decision-making,

:23:26.:23:28.

it was superb. Especially on the critical points. It will be

:23:29.:23:32.

interesting to see what Jo and Miles think. Go on, Miles? Well, I didn't

:23:33.:23:40.

see as much of yesterday's match because I was working on some of the

:23:41.:23:46.

other matches but again that match and the amount of times she was in

:23:47.:23:51.

sticky situations and hit the line with her serve. Jo's incredibly

:23:52.:23:57.

disciplined with her game style which under pressure is huge. There

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are no decisions to be made, she knows what she is goes to do and

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generally executes it very well. If it comes down to the wire, that is a

:24:05.:24:08.

massive help. Having said that, I do think that, for a British player, I

:24:09.:24:12.

remember Andy winning it for the first time. Even talking about it

:24:13.:24:16.

now I get goose bumps, so there is going to be a different level of

:24:17.:24:21.

pressure but it's the same for all of the girls, mainly apart from

:24:22.:24:25.

Venus who's been there numerous times, as Jo said. Let's talk about

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Andy Murray. I was on Centre Court supporting him yesterday, only the

:24:31.:24:33.

second time I've been and I'm amazed at how close you are to the players

:24:34.:24:38.

and that just sort of fascinated me because he's a God when he's moving

:24:39.:24:43.

during the points but in-between, he sort of hovels around like an old

:24:44.:24:47.

man, I hope he won't mind me saying that but that is how it looked to

:24:48.:24:52.

me. I'm not an expert, Miles, but is that fair? Yes, he moves like the

:24:53.:24:56.

rest of us between points, let's be fair. Like me! But it's not uncommon

:24:57.:25:05.

for him and it looks like that hip is very much protecting it. There

:25:06.:25:19.

was a unique match yesterday, his opponent Benoit Paire, he was made

:25:20.:25:23.

to change direction. A couple of drop shots he went for. With Andy,

:25:24.:25:29.

it's like a burst of speed. I don't think that is an issue. Often you

:25:30.:25:35.

see players, they all have niggles. Sometimes in a bizarre way it can be

:25:36.:25:38.

helpful because it takes pressure off, maybe puts a bit of focus on a

:25:39.:25:43.

different area of their game rather than everything being about winning

:25:44.:25:46.

this title. Jo, what are your views on how far

:25:47.:25:52.

Andy Murray can go trying to defend the title? I think as soon as he

:25:53.:25:56.

gets to Wimbledon and gets on Centre Court then he becomes different and

:25:57.:26:02.

of course he might have a sore hip - join the rest of us - but once the

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points start, he does move just brilliantly, one of the fastest

:26:07.:26:10.

movers on court and he knows how to move on grass court. Health and

:26:11.:26:14.

Safety got that down. I expect him to be in the final and probably

:26:15.:26:18.

playing Roger Federer. That will be interesting, hopefully. Yes. Amanda

:26:19.:26:24.

Owens, in terms of Andy Murray, he's physically and mentally bulked up.

:26:25.:26:28.

Yes. But to cope with a bit of a pain in the hip? No. He's got so

:26:29.:26:33.

much experience and he's so resilient. As Miles pointed out,

:26:34.:26:38.

it's about being able to focus on what you need to focus on at that

:26:39.:26:42.

point, it's not a distraction for him, he's playing really well

:26:43.:26:46.

considering he's been off and has had injury anythings. -- niggles.

:26:47.:26:53.

He's playing really well and said yesterday he was pretty happy with

:26:54.:26:57.

the way he played. Tell us briefly some of the tips you give to the

:26:58.:27:08.

players, tennis, rugby players, that are utilised to cope with daily

:27:09.:27:14.

life? It's about being in the present, focussing on minefulness

:27:15.:27:16.

and the here and now. What does that mean? It's not focussing on the

:27:17.:27:23.

mistake, the shot you have hit or missed and not focussing on an

:27:24.:27:27.

injured hip or anything that can be a distraction. It's being able to

:27:28.:27:31.

refocus and reset and focus on the ball, the point and what you are

:27:32.:27:35.

going to do right now and your game strategy. It's really important,

:27:36.:27:39.

especially for Jo, that she focuses on her game plan and what she needs

:27:40.:27:43.

to do, not on expectation or the bigger picture. OK. Thank you all of

:27:44.:27:52.

you very much. Amanda, Jo and Miles, thank you. Thank you for your

:27:53.:27:56.

comments about the cash in hand economy. We are expecting this

:27:57.:28:02.

report on the way we work in Britain in 2017 which is due I think at

:28:03.:28:07.

about 10. 45-ish and one thing that will be talked about is the cash in

:28:08.:28:11.

hand economy potentially clamping down on that. Kenneth said I lived

:28:12.:28:15.

and worked in the USA, their tax office have a formula on the website

:28:16.:28:19.

with a section where you reply to the end, they'll tell you whether

:28:20.:28:23.

you are self-employed or employed. If they say you are employed, the

:28:24.:28:28.

owner of the company can go to jail. Frank says at last someone wants to

:28:29.:28:32.

do something about cash in hand, I've been saying this for years, the

:28:33.:28:35.

Labour Party bang on about the drum of the 1% rich and more escape tax

:28:36.:28:41.

at the lowernd time and again. Self-employed one man bands ask are

:28:42.:28:46.

you paying by cash or cheque. That doesn't mean they are not paying tax

:28:47.:28:49.

on the cash but potentially might not be. Julian as a supply teacher

:28:50.:28:56.

working through an umbrella says, I pay both employees national

:28:57.:28:59.

insurance and employers national insurance. This cannot be right. I

:29:00.:29:03.

have taken this up with them in the past but I just get to bed off.

:29:04.:29:05.

Thank you for those. Today is world population day.

:29:06.:29:21.

The global population stood at a little over five billion in 1990,

:29:22.:29:26.

it's now more than half that again, measuring 6.7 billion. So where is

:29:27.:29:29.

it growing fastest and will it ever slow down. We have taken a look at

:29:30.:29:32.

the numbers. That was a global look at the

:29:33.:30:56.

numbers on world population though. Coming up... Should your child be

:30:57.:31:00.

marked down on technicalities at school, including the size of shape

:31:01.:31:08.

of semi-colons and commas. Teachers have complained pupils have been

:31:09.:31:15.

unfairly marked down. Plans to double the number of our speakers

:31:16.:31:17.

are being announced today. The Government wants double the number

:31:18.:31:25.

to be using the language by 2050. With the news, here's Joanna Gosling

:31:26.:31:28.

in the BBC Newsroom. An end to cash-in-hand jobs

:31:29.:31:32.

and changing the rules on the minimum wage are just two

:31:33.:31:34.

of the recommendations in a major The study, led by a former adviser

:31:35.:31:38.

to Tony Blair, Matthew Taylor, recommends that people working

:31:39.:31:42.

in what's known as the gig economy, where workers get paid per task,

:31:43.:31:45.

should receive new legal protections There is a problem about the quality

:31:46.:31:47.

of work amongst lower paid, What we have to do is

:31:48.:31:51.

tackle exploitation. There are too many people who suffer

:31:52.:31:54.

one-sided flexibility - their employers have

:31:55.:31:57.

lots of flexibility, They are insecure, they do not feel

:31:58.:32:01.

they have a voice at work. President Trump's eldest son

:32:02.:32:09.

is facing further allegations about a meeting he held

:32:10.:32:12.

with a Russian lawyer The New York Times says

:32:13.:32:15.

Donald Trump Junior was informed in advance by email

:32:16.:32:21.

that the information offered by the woman was part

:32:22.:32:23.

of a Russian government effort The Senate Intelligence Committee

:32:24.:32:25.

says it wants to speak to him A body has been found by police

:32:26.:32:30.

searching for 12-year-old Owen Jenkins who fell

:32:31.:32:35.

into the River Trent in Nottingham. A family member said the schoolboy

:32:36.:32:40.

was a hero who had gone in to save a female friend

:32:41.:32:43.

who was struggling. Nottinghamshire Police

:32:44.:32:45.

said in a statement, "Our thoughts are with the family

:32:46.:32:47.

during this time." An American military aircraft has

:32:48.:32:52.

crashed in the state of Mississippi, It crashed about 100 miles north

:32:53.:32:55.

of Jackson, the state capital. Officials say all 16 victims

:32:56.:32:59.

were on the Marine Corps aircraft A day after the Iraqi Prime Minister

:33:00.:33:02.

declared victory in the battle to retake Mosul from so-called

:33:03.:33:08.

Islamic State, Amnesty International says the fighting has been

:33:09.:33:11.

catastrophic for civilians. It has accused so-called

:33:12.:33:14.

Islamic State of using human shields and says Iraqi and coalition forces

:33:15.:33:19.

fail to take adequate precautions It is calling for an independent

:33:20.:33:22.

commission to investigate That is a summary. Join me at 11.

:33:23.:33:26.

And some sport. Two British players

:33:27.:33:44.

are through to the quarterfinals of the Wimbledon singles

:33:45.:33:46.

for the first time in 44 years. So, can Johanna Konta go one better

:33:47.:33:49.

by reaching the last She takes on the number two seed

:33:50.:33:51.

Simona Halep, after a really tough three-set win over

:33:52.:33:55.

Caroline Garcia yesterday. Andy Murray isn't back

:33:56.:33:57.

in action until tomorrow. But there'll be no third Wimbledon

:33:58.:34:00.

title for Rafa Nadal. He was beaten

:34:01.:34:04.

in a near five-hour epic Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger says

:34:05.:34:06.

he expects Alexis Sanchez to sign He says the striker hasn't

:34:07.:34:16.

told him he wants to leave, Sanchez has a year left

:34:17.:34:23.

on his current deal. And British and Irish Lions prop

:34:24.:34:26.

Kyle Sinckler has apologised after he was arrested during a night

:34:27.:34:28.

out in Auckland, following the drawn Police said a man was placed under

:34:29.:34:32.

arrest but not charged That is all from me. Back to you,

:34:33.:34:49.

Victoria. Right, this is interesting.

:34:50.:34:51.

A row has broken out over the marking of this year's primary

:34:52.:34:54.

school tests after teachers complained that pupils had been

:34:55.:34:56.

unfairly marked down on technicalities, including the size

:34:57.:34:58.

and shape of their commas and semi-colons.

:34:59.:35:03.

Using the hashtag #SATsshambles, teachers pointed out multiple

:35:04.:35:10.

examples of inconsistencies in marking of key stage 2 Sats tests

:35:11.:35:16.

for 10 and 11-year-olds and urged all schools to go

:35:17.:35:19.

through their pupils' marked papers in detail

:35:20.:35:20.

Let us have a look at some examples. The answer is correct, but the M

:35:21.:35:32.

comes slightly out of the box. Look at that. The pupil has been given no

:35:33.:35:40.

marks. That seems very harsh to me. What do I know? Next example. Too

:35:41.:35:48.

hide, semi-colon, even though it is in the correct place -- too high.

:35:49.:35:58.

The semi-colon is... Wow. That pupil has been given zero marks. The third

:35:59.:36:06.

example... The comma is low but it is in the correct place. No marks

:36:07.:36:13.

awarded. That is really tight, isn't it?

:36:14.:36:15.

We can speak now to Brian Walton, primary school head teacher

:36:16.:36:18.

He's been a headteacher for 15 years and is deeply concerned

:36:19.:36:22.

What do you think? It is not hard to say what I think. It is just... How

:36:23.:36:36.

many adults at there can use semi-colons already? The children

:36:37.:36:39.

are using them in the right place and they are being marked wrong

:36:40.:36:45.

because it is too big or the dot is above the letters. Ridiculous,

:36:46.:36:51.

absolutely... What kind of impact does it have on a child when they

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are marked down, when they get zero, when they have got the correct

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answer? How would anybody feel if they are getting the correct answer

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but they are being told it is wrong? It is in just, it is wrong. Also,

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this is very high stakes, accountable tests. The schools are

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judged on how they do in these tests. I have been a leader, I

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support schools up and down the country, headteachers lose their

:37:23.:37:25.

jobs if the results are not good enough, it as that. High-stakes. Who

:37:26.:37:35.

marks the ten one? Pearson. What, sorry? Pearson. The markers are

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trained and given the role, but I think it goes through Pearson. I do

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not know enough at this stage. I will. That is all right. The markers

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have guidelines which suggests that if the letter is slightly out of the

:37:53.:38:00.

box... Yeah, absolutely. This is the controversy going on under the hash

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tag at the moment. The markers said none of the schools knew about it so

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a lot of the guidance about the size and shape and the orientation and

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how we form letters, we did not know that. Already, in year six, we are

:38:16.:38:20.

narrowing the curriculum to make sure children get the standards

:38:21.:38:25.

because the standards are such high stakes. At the same time, this

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almost Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy marking is going on

:38:35.:38:38.

behind-the-scenes. If you had the guidance that if the semi-colon is

:38:39.:38:43.

too high, they might get a zero, you would have said, lower the

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semi-colon? We would, but again, there has to be an ethic about if

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the child can use the semi-colon... Use it technically. Remember, they

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are putting written by semi-colons, we are getting pernickety when we

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are getting to that level. We sure are. What do you want to be done

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about it? First and foremost, there needs to be a review and we need to

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really look at what has happened this year. We do not know the scale.

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It has happened on Twitter at the moment. It is an echo Chamber of a

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small group. I have 50, 60 heads who have contacted me who are outraged.

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Everyone of them has examples of this, including myself. One of my

:39:34.:39:37.

children has marked wrong. He has written the spelling correctly, but

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there is too much of a gap between two letters. There needs to be a

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review of this. I am going to gather their heads together and work with

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other organisations, very positively. I believe in testing and

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accountability, but when it is this high-stakes and people's jobs are on

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the line, something has to change, so we need to review this, seriously

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take a look at it. Re-marking, are you suggesting, for some of the

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children marked down perhaps unfairly? What is the purpose of

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Sats? If we are thinking about children in year six going into year

:40:23.:40:25.

seven, we want the children to have the best knowledge and skills they

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can for secondary school. They roughly get ?50 million a year, I do

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not know how much they... How can we have an assessment system working

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for children, parents, schools? At the moment, what is Sats about? It

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is about the accountability of primary schools. Thank you very

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much. Brian Walton, headteacher of a primary school. This statement from

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Pearson, the company who has done the marking, marking quality is

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extremely important and something we monitor continuously. In the unusual

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circumstances that there is an error, there is a review process in

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place which ensures a fair and transparent system and enables

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Pearson to correct any discrepancies and ensure pupils receive a fair

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mark. If you have any examples, do let me

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know. One year after taking office, Theresa May will make her first

:41:25.:41:29.

major speech since losing her majority at the general election.

:41:30.:41:33.

Norman, how important is this for Mrs May? Welcome to relaunch

:41:34.:41:40.

country, this is where Theresa May is going to try to kick-start her

:41:41.:41:45.

premiership, get the fight but going after the duffing up she had at the

:41:46.:41:48.

hands of the electorate which has left her pretty bruised and

:41:49.:41:52.

battered, it has left the party wondering whether they want to carry

:41:53.:41:57.

on. -- carry on with her. Today she will make her pitch for why she

:41:58.:42:01.

should continue as Prime Minister. Her argument will be this. She is

:42:02.:42:06.

not just focused on Brexit, but there are a whole load of other big

:42:07.:42:11.

issues which successive governments have dodged. Things like social

:42:12.:42:16.

care, an obvious one. Employment rights, we will be hearing a lot of

:42:17.:42:19.

that today. A new industrial strategy. All of the big areas which

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a lot of governments have looked at and said, I cannot deal with that.

:42:26.:42:29.

She is going to face up to those problems and I want the help of the

:42:30.:42:32.

opposition parties in trying to push through on these things after years

:42:33.:42:36.

when successive governments have filed them in the two difficult

:42:37.:42:43.

draw. The thinking is to say to the troublesome backbenchers who are

:42:44.:42:47.

thinking, we have to get rid of her. Look, I have an agenda that goes on

:42:48.:42:52.

four years, I am not just about Brexit, I am not just going to be

:42:53.:42:57.

here for a few months, I have a serious, long-term agenda, and the

:42:58.:43:00.

hope is it will give her a sense of momentum, purpose, and maybe the

:43:01.:43:04.

backbenchers will think, OK, she clearly has a lot she wants to do,

:43:05.:43:15.

she has energy, ideas. We will carry on with Theresa May. You have to

:43:16.:43:18.

say, it is a big ask because whenever you find clusters of Tory

:43:19.:43:20.

MPs together, they are invariably talking about, can Theresa May

:43:21.:43:24.

survive? A lot of people take the view her authority has been so badly

:43:25.:43:29.

dented by the miscalculation over the general election, the real

:43:30.:43:33.

battle she faces ahead with Brexit, that actually, perhaps, they would

:43:34.:43:36.

be better getting someone else. Today is a attempt to shore up the

:43:37.:43:42.

premiership to try to ensure she stays Prime Minister. She is also

:43:43.:43:47.

going to be addressing workers' rights and the gig economy, isn't

:43:48.:43:51.

she? That is one of the big issues she wants to tackle because the

:43:52.:43:57.

world of work has changed massively in the last five, ten years. We no

:43:58.:44:02.

longer work nine to five, work for a company all your life. People flit

:44:03.:44:07.

around, different jobs, people want more flexibility. We have seen an

:44:08.:44:11.

explosion in the so-called gig economy. The difficulty is, it is a

:44:12.:44:15.

sort of twilight area. People who work for companies like Uber, they

:44:16.:44:23.

are not quite self-employed, they do not have complete control, but they

:44:24.:44:26.

are not really employees. They do not have to turn up at 9am and leave

:44:27.:44:31.

at five. They have a rather vague area. Today we will hear this plan

:44:32.:44:37.

from the man who used to be Tony Blair's big brains, Matthew Taylor,

:44:38.:44:41.

who has come up with is this idea of a new category of worker called

:44:42.:44:44.

dependent contractor and what that will mean is for those people who

:44:45.:44:50.

work for people like Uber, they will gain some of the rights, not all, of

:44:51.:44:55.

employees. They would in future be able to get sick display, holiday

:44:56.:45:02.

pay, potentially the minimum wage. After a year or so, if they had been

:45:03.:45:06.

on is there a contract, they would be able to ask the company to give

:45:07.:45:11.

them a proper full-time contract -- if they had been on a zero hour

:45:12.:45:17.

contract. It is trying to give those more protections. The big snout, I

:45:18.:45:22.

think, is this. Will it actually happen? I say that because looking

:45:23.:45:27.

at the advanced transcripts of Mrs May's speech, a lot of it seems to

:45:28.:45:32.

be about setting benchmarks for companies and I am not entirely sure

:45:33.:45:36.

that there will be legislation to actually make this happen. But we

:45:37.:45:40.

will find out when she speaks. Thank you.

:45:41.:45:43.

Plans to almost double the number of Welsh speakers are being

:45:44.:45:46.

announced with the country's First minister urging the nation to "take

:45:47.:45:49.

The aim is to get a million people speaking Welsh by 2050.

:45:50.:45:56.

In the last Census there were 562,000 Welsh speakers.

:45:57.:45:58.

Under the new proposals there will be an expansion

:45:59.:46:01.

of Welsh speaking nurseries, and an increase in the number

:46:02.:46:04.

of teachers for primary and secondary schools.

:46:05.:46:06.

At the moment there are 391 Welsh speaking primary schools and 23

:46:07.:46:11.

secondary schools The hope is that 70 percent of children leaving

:46:12.:46:17.

So how important is it that the Welsh language

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Meri Huws is the Welsh Language Commissioner and Ragsy is a singer

:46:24.:46:29.

who who has appeared on the TV programme The Voice,

:46:30.:46:32.

Freddie Greaves is a dad whose kids are in the Welsh-speaking stream.

:46:33.:46:48.

Mari, tell us why you think this is important? We are a by Lang wall

:46:49.:47:00.

country. Bilingual country. In Wales, the use of the language is

:47:01.:47:04.

enhanced in public service, in business, and we really need to

:47:05.:47:09.

enable young people to respond to that channel, to be there, to be

:47:10.:47:13.

part of the workforce -- part of that challenge. To be part of this

:47:14.:47:19.

fascinating journey we are on, creating a bling wall country where

:47:20.:47:23.

the Welsh language is part of everyone's lives in the community in

:47:24.:47:27.

Wales, across Wales and I think that's such a wonderful challenge.

:47:28.:47:30.

This strategy is setting that journey very, very clearly for us.

:47:31.:47:35.

So you are saying there are economic benefits as well as cultural? There

:47:36.:47:39.

are cultural benefits and economic benefits. I speak regularly to

:47:40.:47:48.

employers who're looking for bibilingual workers who could

:47:49.:47:51.

contribute to their companies and we should celebrate the fact that it's

:47:52.:47:56.

very much part of our iedification in Wales and we should be

:47:57.:48:00.

celebrating that and using that economically to exhibition benefit

:48:01.:48:09.

to cultural and social benefit. Hello, Ragsi, how are you? I'm good

:48:10.:48:12.

thank you very much, how are you? Yes, I'm good thank you. Why are you

:48:13.:48:17.

learning to speak Welsh and can you answer in Welsh? I'm trying to. I've

:48:18.:48:25.

only just started in the last couple of weeks learning Welsh so...

:48:26.:48:35.

Skaps he speaks Welsh. Skaps I'm a very passionate Welshman. It's

:48:36.:48:43.

one of those things I've thought about and thought it's never too

:48:44.:48:49.

late in life to learn. I wanted to perform in my native tongue being a

:48:50.:48:54.

Welshman to and to sing with a choir so I ended up releasing a song on St

:48:55.:49:00.

David's Day called Fields at Home. It spurred me on and I became even

:49:01.:49:05.

more passionate to learn the language and hopefully perform more

:49:06.:49:11.

in Welsh as well. Do you mind me asking how old you are? I'm 38. It's

:49:12.:49:16.

interesting that you say you are never too old to learn. Let me bring

:49:17.:49:20.

in Freddie. Two of your children are in the Welsh stream at your school.

:49:21.:49:23.

It's much easier to learn a language when you are young isn't it because

:49:24.:49:27.

your brain is absorbing much more, but how is it going for your

:49:28.:49:31.

children, Freddie? Great. My six-year-old was showing off to me

:49:32.:49:35.

this week that he knows more Welsh than me now so that's great. I was

:49:36.:49:44.

brought up in a part of Wales where there wasn't access to Welsh

:49:45.:49:47.

education so I always felt I missed out on some of the cultural heritage

:49:48.:49:52.

and access. Is that the motivation for you? Was it your kids who wanted

:49:53.:49:57.

to learn Welsh or were you saying I missed out and partly want to live

:49:58.:50:05.

my life through you? They started in the nursery setting and at that

:50:06.:50:09.

point they hadn't formed any opinions on the benefits of

:50:10.:50:20.

bilingualism, but they enjoy it and my daughter enjoys singing in Welsh.

:50:21.:50:26.

I am going to ask Ragsi to sing in Welsh in a moment. Mari, how worried

:50:27.:50:33.

are you about potentially the Welsh language dying out, in Welsh,

:50:34.:50:35.

please? I'm not worried. I'm seeing a new

:50:36.:50:43.

confidence. I think we have just heard that in the two other

:50:44.:50:48.

speakers. Those young people, those children learning Welsh today will

:50:49.:50:53.

be our workforce of the future, our doctors, nurses, and that's going to

:50:54.:50:57.

be a wonderful opportunity for them. It's not only the culture but

:50:58.:51:01.

they'll contribute to Wales and a Wales which will be bilingual.

:51:02.:51:09.

Ragsi, take it away. I don't know how you can hold your phone because

:51:10.:51:12.

you are on face time and I don't know if you have your guitar with

:51:13.:51:18.

you? I haven't but I would like to thank the guys at the university for

:51:19.:51:22.

helping me in learning this language as well with the Welsh school and if

:51:23.:51:27.

anybody wants to check him out go on www. Learn welsh. Cymru. This is the

:51:28.:51:37.

song I released on St David's Day. I will give you a burst of that.

:51:38.:51:52.

That was absolutely gorgeous, thank you so much. That was an unexpected

:51:53.:52:30.

pleasure at 10. 45 on a Tuesday morning! Thank you!

:52:31.:52:37.

We haven't talked about the sort of musicality, I don't mean the music

:52:38.:52:40.

there, but actually the Welsh language is sort of, I don't know,

:52:41.:52:44.

lyrical a bit, is that fair, Mari, what would you say? The Welsh

:52:45.:52:48.

language is amazing, it's a very old language and yes, that musicality

:52:49.:52:52.

and that was a wonderful performance, thank you very, very

:52:53.:52:55.

much, and if you understood the words you would realise how

:52:56.:52:58.

important the words were and how relevant to what is being announced

:52:59.:53:02.

today. We sing, we celebrate and I think what we need to do more and

:53:03.:53:06.

more is celebrate our Welshness and be proud of it. Ragsi, what is the

:53:07.:53:11.

message of what you have just sung to us in Welsh? The song is all

:53:12.:53:18.

about it feels like home and Wales is such a warm, friendly nation and

:53:19.:53:23.

no matter where you go in Wales, it always feels like home so yes,

:53:24.:53:27.

that's the kind of message that I wrote about in that song.

:53:28.:53:30.

Lovely. Thank you so much all of you. Thank you. Freddie good luck to

:53:31.:53:39.

the children, Ragsi thank you for singing and mari, good luck. Thank

:53:40.:53:49.

you. We were talking about school children being marked down in their

:53:50.:53:56.

SATs. We have a statement. They were being marked down for tiny things

:53:57.:53:59.

like putting a letter outside the box that you are supposed to put it

:54:00.:54:03.

in and a semi colon being in the right place but being a bit too

:54:04.:54:06.

high. The Department of Education says: There are a number of measures

:54:07.:54:12.

in place to ensure schools, Key Stage two, teacher assessment

:54:13.:54:15.

judgments are robust and accurate. Teachers have a statutory duty to

:54:16.:54:20.

ensure the school's judgments are an accurate assessment of pupil

:54:21.:54:23.

attainment. They are encouraged to moderate their judgments with other

:54:24.:54:27.

schools. The testing agency takes any issues with accuracy of schools,

:54:28.:54:30.

teacher assessment judgment seriously. Any concerns about

:54:31.:54:35.

particular schools should be reported to the board so they may be

:54:36.:54:40.

properly investigated. Lots of you have been getting in touch with us

:54:41.:54:44.

about this major review into the way we work in Britain today which we

:54:45.:54:48.

talked about earlier on the programme. One key recommendation is

:54:49.:54:52.

tond the so-called cash in hand economy. The report's author claims

:54:53.:54:56.

cash jobs like window cleaning and decorating with worth up to ?6

:54:57.:55:02.

billion a year, much of it untaxed. Brian says every week there seems to

:55:03.:55:07.

be a new car wash opening around here where I live. They charge

:55:08.:55:12.

around ?5 per wash and have cars queueing during the dry days, none

:55:13.:55:15.

of them offer a receipt so the money taken is lost from the economy, many

:55:16.:55:20.

of the car washes are manned by non-speaking Europeans. Christine

:55:21.:55:24.

says, I do believe self-employment is being abused by employers or

:55:25.:55:28.

agencies. However, it is an impossible task to assume it could

:55:29.:55:32.

be wiped out at every level. Many start up businesses with limited

:55:33.:55:36.

funds and have started this way such as retaining, not employing salesmen

:55:37.:55:41.

and contractors and it would be interesting how say knocking the vat

:55:42.:55:45.

off for cash for a customer who often insists on this will be

:55:46.:55:48.

tackled. Let us talk to Liz Mayall, chair of

:55:49.:55:57.

Turf Mark, a scheme that signposts people to local reputable firms and

:55:58.:56:00.

trades people. Hi there. Reputable meaning what? These are uniquely

:56:01.:56:07.

firms that have been tested for and checked for three things; they have

:56:08.:56:15.

obviously been checked for their business practices, good customer

:56:16.:56:19.

references but critically, they have been checked for technical

:56:20.:56:22.

competence and Turf Mark is the only scheme of this sort set up by the

:56:23.:56:26.

Government just over ten years ago, it's the only scheme that does all

:56:27.:56:36.

three of the checks. . -- Trust maencht So you don't mind if your

:56:37.:56:40.

tradesmen get paid cash or not? I prefer they don't. You have no way

:56:41.:56:45.

of what happens when a plumber walks into a customer's house and the

:56:46.:56:49.

conversation that goes on, so how do you know? Trust Mark is about

:56:50.:56:54.

professionalism and the trades people we give the badge to, they

:56:55.:56:58.

earn that badge, they don't buy it and they earn it through their

:56:59.:57:03.

professionalism. A key part of professionalism is about having a

:57:04.:57:06.

really good business practice. It's good for the customer, very good for

:57:07.:57:12.

the businesses as well. What about when the customer says, OK, thanks

:57:13.:57:16.

for your quote, how much for cash, meaning, you know, I'll give you the

:57:17.:57:21.

cash, you don't have to bay the VAT and we won't tell anybody? Well,

:57:22.:57:25.

good tradesmen generally will say I'm sorry that's not the way we

:57:26.:57:31.

operate. We will give you a very good quote, we'll be as competitive

:57:32.:57:36.

as we can, we'll give you the benefits of our expertise and we'll

:57:37.:57:39.

invoice you at the end of the process. There are also other

:57:40.:57:43.

payment options available that if people don't want to do it by

:57:44.:57:49.

cheque, an old-fashioned way of doing thicks, you know, but there

:57:50.:57:52.

are other payment options available. OK, and the other payment options,

:57:53.:57:57.

for example include? Well, if you've got a big project, I would certainly

:57:58.:58:04.

say look at ESCRO schemes, Trust Mark has one, that works where the

:58:05.:58:09.

customer puts in the money, you agree a deal between you and the

:58:10.:58:13.

person, you put the money into a scheme and then that money is

:58:14.:58:18.

released at agreed stages when work is done. If the work is not

:58:19.:58:23.

completed, you get the money back for the work that's not been done.

:58:24.:58:29.

Thank you very much Liz. BBC newsroom live is next. Thanks for

:58:30.:58:30.

your company.

:58:31.:58:32.