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Hello it's Monday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, | :00:00. | :00:08. | |
welcome to the programme We'll bring you the details shortly. | :00:09. | :00:19. | |
The parents of Charlie Gard are to return to court today. They've been | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
victims of a backlash from some members of the public, they say, | :00:25. | :00:30. | |
after Great Ormond Street Hospital revealed staff received death | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
threats. Threats have been made against the judiciary and medical | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
staff at Great Ormond Street Hospital. Under no possible | :00:39. | :00:44. | |
circumstances whatsoever does any member of Charlie's family or any of | :00:45. | :00:50. | |
Charlie's true supporters condone any such action. | :00:51. | :00:58. | |
We have discovered that new powers to curb dock attacks haven't been | :00:59. | :01:06. | |
working. We'll talk to the family of a three-year-old girl mauled after | :01:07. | :01:11. | |
five doings broke into her garden. And it's 50 years since gay sex was | :01:12. | :01:15. | |
decriminalised but how much has changed and how close are we to | :01:16. | :01:24. | |
achieving true equality? We demand the same rights. No more, no less. | :01:25. | :01:32. | |
The same rights as other ordinary, civilised human beings. | :01:33. | :01:39. | |
We'll talk to Peter Tatchell and George Montagu, convicted of gross | :01:40. | :01:47. | |
indecency with a man in the 70s and describes himself as the oldest gay | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
in the village and a woman who's only just come out, about how much | :01:52. | :01:53. | |
as changed. Hello. | :01:54. | :02:03. | |
welcome to the programme, Throughout the programme the latest | :02:04. | :02:05. | |
breaking news and developing stories...a little later we'll | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
celebrate two amazing British England's women beat India | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
to the Cricket World Cup. Absolutely amazing. I took my kids | :02:14. | :02:27. | |
there. So many kids there, it was brilliant. A great atmosphere. | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
And we'll be asking why this Brit - Chris Frome, the 4 times | :02:33. | :02:35. | |
tour de france winner - isn't receiving the love | :02:36. | :02:38. | |
Is he Britain's least popular greatest sportsman? | :02:39. | :02:40. | |
Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning - | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged | :02:45. | :02:47. | |
The parents of Charlie Gard return to the court today as the court | :02:48. | :02:57. | |
consider new evidence from a US neurologist. They want to take their | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
baby to the States for experimental treatment. Doctors at Great Ormond | :03:03. | :03:08. | |
Street don't believe it will work and say the 11-month-old should be | :03:09. | :03:12. | |
allowed to die with dignity. Tom Burridge is at | :03:13. | :03:14. | |
the High Court for us. The court was supposed to sit this | :03:15. | :03:23. | |
morning and it's been pushed back to this afternoon. Possibly a decision | :03:24. | :03:27. | |
from tomorrow onwards, that might be pushed back because we are not | :03:28. | :03:29. | |
seeing the court sitting this morning. But I think a lot of the | :03:30. | :03:35. | |
evidence will centre around testimony from this US Doctor Who | :03:36. | :03:43. | |
claims that his treatment, a kind of therapy, has a 10% chance of | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
improving the health of 11-month-old Charlie Gard. The judge will have to | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
make that very difficult decision in what is a very sad case. The judge | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
will have to decide, remember, whether or not to allow Chris and | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
Connie, Charlie's parents, to allow them to take him to New York for | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
experimental treatment or whether the judge decides, like the doctors | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
at Great Ormond Street have been arguing, that the chances of any | :04:09. | :04:11. | |
success from that treatment are so low that actually it's in Charlie's | :04:12. | :04:18. | |
best interests for the life support system to be switched off and for | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
him to be allowed the die with dignity. Tell us about the threats | :04:23. | :04:28. | |
to the staff and the parents? Really sad again. On Saturday, Great Ormond | :04:29. | :04:34. | |
Street Hospital released a statement saying that their staff, doctors and | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
nurses, suffered a torrent of abuse, thousands of messages online, some | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
verbal abuse in the street. Connie and Chris, Charlie's parents, | :04:45. | :04:47. | |
released a short statement on Saturday saying they too suffered a | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
lot of abuse. Then they released a longer statement yesterday evening, | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
saying that actually, since the statement from Great Ormond Street | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
on Saturday, they've suffered what they described as a backlash. They | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
said they've suffered a lot of abuse, a lot of messages online. But | :05:04. | :05:06. | |
they paid tribute, I think it's important to say, to the doctors and | :05:07. | :05:11. | |
the staff at Great Ormond Street Hospital. They say ultimately their | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
son wouldn't be alive today if it wasn't for the staff at Great Ormond | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
Street Hospital. Both sides, the doctors and parents of young Charlie | :05:20. | :05:22. | |
of course have his best interests at heart. But of course the judge over | :05:23. | :05:26. | |
the next couple of days, possibly longer, will have to make that very | :05:27. | :05:29. | |
difficult decision. Thank you very much. | :05:30. | :05:33. | |
Rachel Schofield is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary | :05:34. | :05:36. | |
The government is promising what it calls a revolution in the way | :05:37. | :05:41. | |
electricity is generated, used and stored. | :05:42. | :05:42. | |
The business secretary, Greg Clark, is to announce more investment | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
in battery technology and details of a competition to | :05:48. | :05:50. | |
Under the plans, it's thought households could save up | :05:51. | :05:56. | |
Britain's economic forecast has been downgraded by the monetary fund due | :05:57. | :06:09. | |
to a weaker performance at the start of the year. In April it was | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
predicted the economy would grow 2%, that's been revised down to 1.7%. | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
The Treasury says the report high lites the importance of a good | :06:19. | :06:20. | |
Brexit deal with the EU. At least 24 people have been killed | :06:21. | :06:23. | |
and more than 40 injured in a suicide bomb attack | :06:24. | :06:26. | |
in the Afghan capital, Kabul. It's understood the attacker | :06:27. | :06:28. | |
detonated the car bomb close to a bus carrying government | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
employees in the west of the city. It's not yet clear who | :06:33. | :06:35. | |
was behind the attack. Scientists say they're examining | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
a potential breakthrough in the case of the missing Sheffield toddler, | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
Ben Needham - who disappeared on the Greek island of Kos, | :06:44. | :06:46. | |
26 years ago today. Human material has been found | :06:47. | :06:48. | |
in soil samples gathered last Ben Needham was 21 months old when | :06:49. | :07:07. | |
he disappeared on the island of Kos in July 1991. In the years that | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
followed, men's mother Kerry pleaded with anyone that knows anything | :07:12. | :07:14. | |
about her son's disappearance to come forward. Last October, an | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
extensive 21-day search was conducted of land around the | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
farmhouse where he was last seen in a second site close by after it | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
emerged the toddler may have been crushed to death by a digger. And | :07:29. | :07:35. | |
now, on the 26th anniversary of his disappearance, a possible | :07:36. | :07:38. | |
breakthrough. Signs of blood have been found on items recovered by | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
police during last year's search. Some of the items that we brought | :07:42. | :07:45. | |
back, we submitted for further forensic work and the results of | :07:46. | :07:50. | |
that to date, I am led to believe, show signs that there is some human | :07:51. | :07:58. | |
decomposition around the items that that we brought back from Kos. A | :07:59. | :08:04. | |
sandal and truck brought back are being tested in Aberdeen. 60 items | :08:05. | :08:11. | |
were brought back for analysis. We are providing information that there | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
is a strong indication from this chemical profile that we were able | :08:16. | :08:21. | |
to ascertain, there is a strong indication this was present on the | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
it Eames as a result of blood decomposition. South Yorkshire | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
police hope this latest development will go some way in proving what | :08:31. | :08:33. | |
happened to this little boy. Experts on Hutch are joining forces | :08:34. | :08:50. | |
with Cancer Researchers to look at efforts to find a cure for the vie | :08:51. | :09:05. | |
Ritz. At the science conference in Paris, experts believe -- a cure for | :09:06. | :09:07. | |
Hutch. Detectives investigating the death | :09:08. | :09:11. | |
of a young woman in south-west London have charged a 33-year-old | :09:12. | :09:13. | |
man with murder, rape and kidnap. The 19-year-old's body was found | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
at a house in Kingston on Wednesday. The man is also accused | :09:17. | :09:19. | |
of raping another woman. A second man has been | :09:20. | :09:21. | |
charged with kidnap. The BBC has learned that 80% of NHS | :09:22. | :09:28. | |
areas in England are failing to meet the government's two week processing | :09:29. | :09:32. | |
target for women to receive It means less than half of women | :09:33. | :09:34. | |
receive their results NHS England said it is working | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
to reduce a "backlog" caused by a forthcoming change to the way | :09:39. | :09:44. | |
it carries out cervical screening. Community Protection notices, ASBOs | :09:45. | :10:03. | |
for doings, were brought in three years ago. They give police and | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
local authorities more powers to demand doing owners take steps to | :10:08. | :10:11. | |
control their animals' behaviour. More than three quarters of the 311 | :10:12. | :10:16. | |
councils who responded to our Freedom of Information request have | :10:17. | :10:20. | |
not issued a single notice since they were introduced. The ding The | :10:21. | :10:29. | |
Duke of Cambridge has revealed how he tells his children stories about | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
his mother, the Princess of Wales. It's hard because obviously | :10:34. | :10:42. | |
Katherine didn't know her so she can not really provide that level of | :10:43. | :10:49. | |
detail so I do regularly, putting Charlotte and George to bed, remind | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
them that there were two grand mothers in their lives. Just after | :10:54. | :11:07. | |
9. 30, we'll bring you the information on the ASBOs for doings. | :11:08. | :11:13. | |
They are not being used by councils even though they've had the powers | :11:14. | :11:16. | |
in order to try to stop doing attacks. We are going to talk to | :11:17. | :11:23. | |
Sandra McKevitt after 9. 30. She's never done an interview before. She | :11:24. | :11:28. | |
was there when her granddaughter was attacked in her front garden by five | :11:29. | :11:33. | |
doings who'd broken through the garden fence. So we'll talk more | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
about that after 9. 30. All of you are saying it's the owners' | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
responsibility. John on Facebook, Anthony on Facebook, the | :11:42. | :11:43. | |
responsibility of attacks falls within owners and the Government for | :11:44. | :11:48. | |
allowing anyone on licence to own potential killing machines. Anthony | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
says the main problem lies with the owners, they look to the doings as a | :11:53. | :12:04. | |
status symbol. Get in touch on Twitter or e-mail us. | :12:05. | :12:19. | |
Olly is with us now. I took my boys to the Cricket World Cup. India were | :12:20. | :12:32. | |
cruising to that modest 229 that England set and then suddenly India | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
collapsed didn't they? Yes, India have been absolutely fantastic. They | :12:38. | :12:40. | |
beat England in the group stage before they qualified for the | :12:41. | :12:44. | |
knockout stage. I was working here yesterday Victoria, you were very | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
lucky to be there and every telly pretty much was tuned into the | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
cricket, so much going on, but most people were watching the cricket. | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
England's women world champions for a fourth time. They'll be having a | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
few heavy heads because I think they were celebrating in the Lord's TV | :13:03. | :13:09. | |
averner's Bar afterwards. One of those tournaments that went under | :13:10. | :13:15. | |
the radar, started a month ago, was up against Wimbledon. You could | :13:16. | :13:21. | |
stream some of the matches for free but it wasn't on terrestrial TV. It | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
was a sell out at Lord's. A great global audience. England were | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
fantastic, making 228, India seemed to be cruising to victory but shrub | :13:32. | :13:38. | |
sole there, wow, five in 19 deliveries, turned the match on its | :13:39. | :13:41. | |
head, got the winning wicket as well. England last won it in 2009, | :13:42. | :13:48. | |
Shrubsole was the player of the match. Pure elation I think. I | :13:49. | :13:53. | |
always think it's better when you're all out there in the field because | :13:54. | :13:56. | |
you have got your team-mates around you and this World Cup really has | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
been a team effort. People have chipped in along the way, we have | :14:00. | :14:05. | |
fought our way through some games, haven't necessarily won the pretest. | :14:06. | :14:10. | |
Test cricket is all about winning, and not how you do it. Look at this | :14:11. | :14:21. | |
tweet from Ian Shrubsole, a picture of Anya in 2001 when she was 11 and | :14:22. | :14:26. | |
"what a place, I would like to play here for England in a World Cup | :14:27. | :14:29. | |
final", is what she said. Didn't she just! That is absolutely brilliant. | :14:30. | :14:38. | |
Dreams can come true! Chris Froome, he wins the Tour de France again? ! | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
That is a dream isn't it of all his four titles. He says this was the | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
toughest because his rivals were so much better this year. 54 seconds | :14:48. | :14:53. | |
his margin of victory, the narrowest of all his victories. There he is, | :14:54. | :15:00. | |
victory parade up the Elysee, a glass or two of bubbly, as is | :15:01. | :15:06. | |
customary. He's 32 now, says he'd like to carry on competing for | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
another five years. Four men have won five tours, the likes of the | :15:12. | :15:17. | |
great Eddie Merks, so there is every chance he could join some of the | :15:18. | :15:22. | |
greats, if not surpass them. My word, what an achievement that is, | :15:23. | :15:26. | |
the toughest grand Tour of Them all. He didn't win a single stage either, | :15:27. | :15:32. | |
the seventh man only to wear that yellow jersey without wearing a | :15:33. | :15:37. | |
single stage. But a real team effort from Team Sky to help Froome on his | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
way to the fourth title. We'll talk about why he isn't loved more by the | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
British public later. Your views welcome. No British winner at the | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
Open but a fantastic day at Royal Birkdale? | :15:51. | :15:56. | |
Royal Birkdale has now staged ten Open championships but no British | :15:57. | :16:02. | |
winner. There was a real battle between Matt Kuchar and Jordan | :16:03. | :16:05. | |
Spieth and we wondered how we could getting gauged with it. Jordan | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
Spieth led from the first day and were three clear overnight but a | :16:10. | :16:13. | |
dramatic final round. He threw away that lead in the first four with | :16:14. | :16:20. | |
bogeys. And then at 13 he unravelled, ending up halfway up the | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
hill. That was unplayable and it got complicated. It took 20 minutes to | :16:25. | :16:28. | |
work out where he could drop the ball. They said the line of sight | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
was in between those two drugs, and they couldn't do that. He is in the | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
practice area. He birdied it and Matt Kuchar went into the lead. But | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
then birdie, eagle, birdie, birdie, finishing on 12 under, three clear | :16:43. | :16:48. | |
of Matt Kuchar. He is the master is open champion from 2015. But that | :16:49. | :16:55. | |
claret jug, after the way he won after nearly throwing it all away, | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
he says it is his greatest major yet and he is only 23. Thank you. | :17:00. | :17:05. | |
Amazing. More from Olly throughout the morning. | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
It is 50 years this week since gay sex was decriminalised. | :17:09. | :17:11. | |
In 1967 the law in England and Wales changed so that it was no longer | :17:12. | :17:14. | |
a crime for two consenting adult men over 21 to have sex. | :17:15. | :17:21. | |
For some, that date was a watershed moment. For others it was just the | :17:22. | :17:25. | |
start. Five decades on, how | :17:26. | :17:27. | |
much has changed? We must be out and about | :17:28. | :18:09. | |
in pubs, in clubs and in the classroom, talking | :18:10. | :18:28. | |
about homosexuality and in fact, in that sense, | :18:29. | :18:30. | |
promoting homosexuality. I'm now very happy to announce that | :18:31. | :19:12. | |
you are now legally husbands. My focus and priority has | :19:13. | :19:40. | |
been on my ministry, on serving God and serving God's | :19:41. | :19:48. | |
people, and I do that, How much has changed? This email | :19:49. | :20:26. | |
suggests not much. I am a 51-year-old gay man and I have had | :20:27. | :20:29. | |
numerous homophobic insults. The last result was in March and my ribs | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
and some were broken in an attack by four security personnel. In my | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
experience homophobia is still a massive problem and the authorities | :20:39. | :20:41. | |
are reluctant to even acknowledge my assaults. Someone who has seen | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
attitudes change hugely over the course of his life is 94-year-old | :20:47. | :20:50. | |
George Montague, who calls himself the oldest gay in the village. | :20:51. | :20:54. | |
He was convicted in the 1970s for gross indecency. | :20:55. | :20:57. | |
Peter Tatchell has spent most of his life campaigning | :20:58. | :20:59. | |
on behalf of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
He describes what happened 50 years ago as partial decriminalisation. | :21:05. | :21:15. | |
Ferhan Khan came out to his Muslim family when he was 15. | :21:16. | :21:18. | |
She only came out to her children over the weekend. | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
Her parents still don't know which is why we're only | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
Welcome to all of you. How are you? Fine. Look at the smile on your | :21:27. | :21:34. | |
face. I really want to know what has changed over your lifetime in terms | :21:35. | :21:44. | |
of the way people treat gay men. Well, I lived a total lie, in the | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
closet, with a wife and three lovely children, and I did a lot of acting | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
and I was totally accept it as a heterosexual person. Nobody in the | :21:55. | :21:59. | |
world except my wife knew I was gay until nine years ago. And when you | :22:00. | :22:06. | |
came out, how did that change your life? When I was brought up, the | :22:07. | :22:15. | |
hero of my life was Lord Baden Powell. I was a good Boy Scout and I | :22:16. | :22:18. | |
did everything I should have done. You don't tell lies. I realised I | :22:19. | :22:23. | |
was living a lie and I had to do something about it. So I went and | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
had a long chat with my children and my daughter said, daddy, we have | :22:29. | :22:34. | |
known for years! Then I took the bull by the horns, and I thought the | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
best thing to do, I was living in Brighton at the time, was to go to | :22:40. | :22:45. | |
Brighton pride, which is one of the best in the country. It is | :22:46. | :22:49. | |
wonderful. All the houses with windows, the windows are full of | :22:50. | :22:52. | |
people waving and shouting and cheering and even the people at the | :22:53. | :22:55. | |
bus stops are cheering. It is wonderful. The best day of my life. | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
And I am looking forward to the next one in a few weeks. Peter, let's | :23:01. | :23:07. | |
talk about 1967 and what did change in practical terms. We talk about | :23:08. | :23:10. | |
liberalisation but it was not as liberal as people think. Up until | :23:11. | :23:16. | |
1967, gay and bisexual men could face a maximum sentence of life | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
imprisonment. That was ended in 1967 but it was a partial, limited | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
decriminalisation. All the anti-gay laws dating back centuries and they | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
remained in force. They were policed in fact with ever greater | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
aggression, so that in the years after 1967, the number of gay and | :23:36. | :23:41. | |
bisexual men convicted rose by 400%. Including George Montague, who was | :23:42. | :23:44. | |
convicted in the 1970s for gross indecency. Full decriminalisation | :23:45. | :23:51. | |
only happened across the UK four years ago. Between 1967 and 2013, at | :23:52. | :23:58. | |
least 15,000 men who were gay or bisexual were convicted for | :23:59. | :24:04. | |
consenting to same-sex behaviour. It's is absolutely shocking and it | :24:05. | :24:10. | |
is appalling it took so long. It took so long to get full legal | :24:11. | :24:13. | |
equality in terms of the criminal law. I have friends who were | :24:14. | :24:18. | |
arrested and convicted because they were under the age of 21, which was | :24:19. | :24:25. | |
the age of consent set in 1967. 18 or 19, they were arrested. One of | :24:26. | :24:30. | |
them went to prison for six months, to a young offenders institution, | :24:31. | :24:34. | |
for consenting loving same-sex relationship. This was in the late | :24:35. | :24:40. | |
1970s. It seems extraordinary. Winnie, hello. Thank you for coming | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
on the programme. You came out as bisexual a year ago to friends and | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
family. What has the last year be like for you? It has actually been | :24:50. | :24:53. | |
really amazing, the support from my work colleagues and my friends. Some | :24:54. | :24:58. | |
of my family, but not all of my family know about it. I was actually | :24:59. | :25:06. | |
really surprised. I have not had any negative experiences. I recently | :25:07. | :25:09. | |
told my children this weekend. They are ten and 11. They were absolutely | :25:10. | :25:16. | |
amazing. I really underestimated telling them. They dealt with it | :25:17. | :25:19. | |
really well. They really understood. They sat down and we explained it to | :25:20. | :25:26. | |
them. They still see me as money, I am still the same person and I am | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
that person at work as well. -- they Seanie as mummy. I am part of the | :25:31. | :25:40. | |
equality network and Mike Ochoa has been with me 100% of the way. -- my | :25:41. | :25:51. | |
co-chair. Do you wish you had done it sooner? It wasn't the right time. | :25:52. | :25:56. | |
Coming out now felt right in itself. And what about your family, the | :25:57. | :26:01. | |
older generations? I just don't think they would understand or | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
accept it. My parents' generation would think it is wrong, not right, | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
not normal, but I am who I am and they can either accept me for who I | :26:12. | :26:18. | |
am or not. It is down to them. You come from a Muslim Pakistani family | :26:19. | :26:21. | |
will. What was their reaction when you came out aged 15? That was | :26:22. | :26:30. | |
nearly 20 years ago. Incredulity. They were just incredulous. You are | :26:31. | :26:35. | |
gay? What? I think they thought I was too young to understand what I | :26:36. | :26:40. | |
was saying. I don't think it impacted them in the way that it has | :26:41. | :26:46. | |
now. It has been a journey since then. My sister is understood. They | :26:47. | :26:57. | |
knew that you don't say that unless you are authentically attracted to | :26:58. | :27:03. | |
the same gender. But it was hard finding acceptance and I still | :27:04. | :27:06. | |
haven't found the acceptance that I really feel that I need. From | :27:07. | :27:13. | |
relatives? Actually I don't have a lot of relatives in the UK. I have | :27:14. | :27:19. | |
got some cousins. The rest of my family is in Pakistan. I am open on | :27:20. | :27:25. | |
Facebook and I have had smatterings of acceptance from them. But here in | :27:26. | :27:30. | |
the community back home in Glasgow, I haven't found the acceptance. I | :27:31. | :27:33. | |
instinctively know that I am not really massively welcome as an | :27:34. | :27:41. | |
openly gay man. At community events, weddings and things, I am not | :27:42. | :27:48. | |
invited any more. I would say that the option to go back into the | :27:49. | :27:50. | |
community and be part of the community is always there but I need | :27:51. | :27:54. | |
that golden ticket. I need to marry a girl to be back. Do your parents | :27:55. | :28:00. | |
still think you are going to marry a woman? There is some pressure to do | :28:01. | :28:04. | |
it. I don't think they wanted to do it. I think they felt pressure from | :28:05. | :28:11. | |
the rest of the community to get a marriage of convenience. The | :28:12. | :28:14. | |
attitude is that the girl's duty is to hide your sexuality for you. | :28:15. | :28:19. | |
Protestations that that isn't fair on the girl fall on deaf ears. What | :28:20. | :28:28. | |
more needs to be done or is the fight over? We have made fantastic | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
progress. Compared to a couple of decades ago, Britain is almost a | :28:33. | :28:36. | |
different country. There has not only been a change in the law, but a | :28:37. | :28:41. | |
change attitudes. Public attitudes are much more supportive, although | :28:42. | :28:46. | |
you have said, there are still families who don't accept their LGBT | :28:47. | :28:52. | |
kids. There is still homophobic hate crime today. 45% of young LGBT kids | :28:53. | :28:56. | |
are bullied in schools and a lot of schools don't have an anti-bullying | :28:57. | :28:58. | |
programme that specifically addresses that issue. There is big | :28:59. | :29:05. | |
progress but more to be done. I think what we would like to reach is | :29:06. | :29:09. | |
a situation where people's sexuality doesn't matter and nobody cares. | :29:10. | :29:15. | |
Gay, straight, bisexual, trans. We want to get to a situation where | :29:16. | :29:19. | |
nobody really cares that we accept the person and they love who they | :29:20. | :29:27. | |
wish to love. George, you want an apology for the fact that you were | :29:28. | :29:30. | |
convicted in the 1970s for gross indecency. You can't actually get a | :29:31. | :29:39. | |
pardon because it is to do with the fact that the offence was in a | :29:40. | :29:43. | |
public toilet. But what you want is an apology. I want an apology to the | :29:44. | :29:50. | |
whole of the gate community for persecution of us for so many years. | :29:51. | :29:57. | |
The police went out of their way to catch us, persecute and prosecute | :29:58. | :30:02. | |
as. I think that is wrong. I didn't ask to be gay, I didn't choose to be | :30:03. | :30:10. | |
gay, I was born that way. Therefore, once or twice I have spoken to | :30:11. | :30:14. | |
children in school, and I say put your hands up if you are | :30:15. | :30:19. | |
left-handed. Quite a number do. Now, I have got something to tell you. I | :30:20. | :30:28. | |
am homosexual and I didn't ask to be. It is just nature. I would think | :30:29. | :30:37. | |
in my opinion 5% or 10% of men are born that way. How is the campaign | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
to get an apology going? Only a couple of days ago, New South | :30:42. | :30:54. | |
Wales and New Zealand, it was on the radio, they've asked for a law, | :30:55. | :30:59. | |
totally apologising for their whole communities for their law against | :31:00. | :31:02. | |
homosexuality. That's what I want in this country. Who do you want to | :31:03. | :31:05. | |
apologise? The government. The Prime Minister? The whole of the House of | :31:06. | :31:16. | |
Commons. A unanimous debate and a unanimous apology to the whole of | :31:17. | :31:23. | |
the gay community for the law of gross indecency should never have | :31:24. | :31:29. | |
been brought into being, it should never have been brought in. Do you | :31:30. | :31:34. | |
agree, Peter? Yes. We need a formal apology from the Prime Minister | :31:35. | :31:37. | |
herself. She's the leader of the nation and she needs to make that | :31:38. | :31:41. | |
formal apology, as do Chief Constables, like Cressida Dick, head | :31:42. | :31:44. | |
of the Metropolitan Police. She needs to say, on behalf of the | :31:45. | :31:49. | |
police, that they are sorry and apologise for the historic | :31:50. | :31:51. | |
persecution of gay people. I think that would be a very important way | :31:52. | :31:57. | |
of drawing a line under the historic persecution that so many gay people | :31:58. | :32:02. | |
faced. If you talk about the last 100 years, about 100,000 gay and | :32:03. | :32:06. | |
bisexual men were convicted for behaviour that in most cases | :32:07. | :32:09. | |
wouldn't have been a crime if their partner had been a woman. That's | :32:10. | :32:13. | |
shocking. Many of the men went to prison. Some of them were attacked | :32:14. | :32:21. | |
and beaten by neighbours. Some were ostracised and rejected by families, | :32:22. | :32:25. | |
they are now alcoholics, some had severe mental illnesses, some | :32:26. | :32:34. | |
committed suicide. It's a shocking tale of stories. Jennifer says there | :32:35. | :32:41. | |
is still so much to do to achieve true equality but brilliant that you | :32:42. | :32:47. | |
are discussing the experience of HGBT people. Tim says what a | :32:48. | :32:51. | |
struggle to get this far and attitudes still have to change. Sean | :32:52. | :32:57. | |
says, we had over 30 gay insults outside our house in 2012. The | :32:58. | :33:01. | |
perpetrator was known to us and the police. I apprehended the | :33:02. | :33:04. | |
individual. I had to ask the police to arrest him. The police were not | :33:05. | :33:09. | |
interested and the CPS said there wasn't enough evidence. Can you | :33:10. | :33:18. | |
imagine a time when everybody treats everybody equally, when there were | :33:19. | :33:22. | |
no homophobic insults or attacks? Can I imagine a time? Not really | :33:23. | :33:30. | |
actually. Just from knowing how attitudes prevail, I suppose as | :33:31. | :33:34. | |
humans, we tend to group people up and the majority tend to kind of | :33:35. | :33:40. | |
hold sway over minorities that will deviate from the norm. | :33:41. | :33:52. | |
It's about educating people actually. You have changed your | :33:53. | :33:58. | |
mind, you couldn't see it now you can. What about you, Winnie, how old | :33:59. | :34:06. | |
are you, do you mind me asking? 35. Do you imagine an era in your | :34:07. | :34:11. | |
lifetime when there is equality, no insults, people treat you fairly and | :34:12. | :34:16. | |
equally? I really hope there could be a time like that. At the moment, | :34:17. | :34:21. | |
hearing everybody's experiences, it does seem quite far away but I think | :34:22. | :34:28. | |
with a lot of support, education, especially Pride this year in London | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
was absolutely amazing, the turnout was amazing and friends supporting | :34:34. | :34:38. | |
colleagues and that, there could be a time but at the moment there is a | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
long way ahead. An e-mail from someone who doesn't wish us to use | :34:43. | :34:51. | |
their name. I'm a minister in a church and I'm totally unable to | :34:52. | :34:56. | |
come out as gay. The church has not fully accepted gay relationships and | :34:57. | :35:00. | |
at least one that I lead would be very much against me being gate. | :35:01. | :35:04. | |
It's a difficult situation but as I still want to serve God and carry on | :35:05. | :35:09. | |
working in this capacity because I'm gay doesn't change anything. I hope | :35:10. | :35:13. | |
that this will make a difference. What would you say to that? George? | :35:14. | :35:23. | |
Oh, dear. Oh, dear, I don't know. What would you say, Peter? I can | :35:24. | :35:29. | |
understand his predicament entirely. It's only if we all come out that | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
homophobia will be challenged and vanquished. So find supportive | :35:35. | :35:42. | |
friends. We need people in all religions to challenge the | :35:43. | :35:46. | |
homophobia that exists there to stand up against it and explain the | :35:47. | :35:51. | |
case that love and compassion should triumph over prejudice and hate. | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
Does that include people in the public eye who're not yet out? | :35:56. | :36:01. | |
Absolutely. When I was growing up in the 60s there were no openly gay | :36:02. | :36:08. | |
public figures at all. In the 70s, they were stereotypical versions | :36:09. | :36:11. | |
mostly of gay men and hardly any lesbians. We now have lots of people | :36:12. | :36:17. | |
out in public life but there are certain parts of life where it's | :36:18. | :36:23. | |
still very unacknowledged. So in faith communities, there really is | :36:24. | :36:29. | |
still a big issue about LGBT people and our acceptance and, all the | :36:30. | :36:33. | |
major religions are supposedly about love and compassion so therefore | :36:34. | :36:37. | |
surely they should accept their members and their faith leaders | :36:38. | :36:42. | |
who're lesbian, gay or bisexual. It's a part of life, you know. Every | :36:43. | :36:48. | |
society and culture throughout history, there'll be LGBT people, | :36:49. | :36:52. | |
it's just part of a spectrum of human sexuality and we should just | :36:53. | :36:55. | |
get used to it and accept it. I agree. Thank you very much for | :36:56. | :36:58. | |
coming on the programme, George, lovely to see you, thank you Peter, | :36:59. | :37:08. | |
Winnie as well. Get in touch with us, you can e-mail us anonymously. | :37:09. | :37:17. | |
Still to come: New powers are not being used by the authorities | :37:18. | :37:19. | |
despite a rise in hospital admissions. In a moment we speak to | :37:20. | :37:26. | |
the family of a small girl who was mauled after five doings broke into | :37:27. | :37:33. | |
her garden. We meet Love Island's fans and critics. Here is Rachel in | :37:34. | :37:41. | |
the newsroom. The parents of Charlie Gard return to the High Court today | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
with the judge set to consider new evidence from a US neurologist. His | :37:46. | :37:48. | |
parents want to take their terminally ill baby to America for | :37:49. | :37:53. | |
experimental treatment but doctors at Great Ormond Street Hospital | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
believe it won't work and say the 11-month-old should be allowed to | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
die with dignity. The Government's promising what it calls a revolution | :38:03. | :38:06. | |
in the way electricity is generated, used and stored. The Business | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
Secretary Greg Clark is to announce more investment in battery | :38:11. | :38:13. | |
technology and details of a competition to boost innovation in | :38:14. | :38:18. | |
energy storage. Under the plans, households could save up to ?40 | :38:19. | :38:24. | |
billion by 2015, it's thought. Britain's economic growth forecast | :38:25. | :38:27. | |
has been downgraded by the International Monetary Fund | :38:28. | :38:30. | |
following a weaker than expected performance at the start of the | :38:31. | :38:33. | |
year. Back in April it was predicted the economy would grow by 2%. That | :38:34. | :38:39. | |
figure has now been revised down to 1.7%. The Treasury says the report | :38:40. | :38:43. | |
highlights the importance of a good brx it deal with the EU. | :38:44. | :38:49. | |
The Duke of Cambridge has revealed how he tells his children stories | :38:50. | :38:59. | |
about their grandmother Diana Diana Princess of Wales. That is a summary | :39:00. | :39:08. | |
of the latest news. More at Ten. And Olly is back with the sport. | :39:09. | :39:14. | |
These are the headlines: England's woman have wound their fourth | :39:15. | :39:19. | |
cricket up with, they beat India in a thrilling finale. Anya Shrubsole | :39:20. | :39:30. | |
was the star. Chris Froome said this was his toughest win of the Tour de | :39:31. | :39:35. | |
France. He said he'd like to carry on competing for another five years. | :39:36. | :39:42. | |
Jordan Spieth let slip a led at the Open but won brilliantly, finished | :39:43. | :39:47. | |
clear of Matt Kuchar. Rory McIlroy was joint fourth. England are almost | :39:48. | :39:50. | |
certain of a quarter-final place at the women's European Championship in | :39:51. | :39:53. | |
Holland after a 2-0 win against Spain. Jodie Taylor scored her | :39:54. | :39:59. | |
fourth goal of the tournament. Qualification is out of Scotland's | :40:00. | :40:06. | |
hands as they lost 2-0 to Portugal. More sport later. | :40:07. | :40:14. | |
Powers brought in to curb doing attacks are not being used to | :40:15. | :40:21. | |
protect people from dangerous doings. ASBOs for doings were | :40:22. | :40:24. | |
brought in three years ago, giving the police and local authorities | :40:25. | :40:28. | |
more powers to demand irresponsible doing owners take steps to control | :40:29. | :40:32. | |
their animals' behaviour and prevent afabbings. The notices are usually | :40:33. | :40:36. | |
issued to deal with minor things like when a doing has been | :40:37. | :40:39. | |
aggressive. They order the responsible person to stop doing | :40:40. | :40:42. | |
something like letting the doing into a children's play area or | :40:43. | :40:48. | |
making sure their pet is muzzled. Figures have revealed they are not | :40:49. | :40:52. | |
being used regularly. More than three quarters of the 311 councils | :40:53. | :40:56. | |
who responded to our Freedom of Information request have not issued | :40:57. | :41:00. | |
a single one of the notices since they were introduced. Here with us | :41:01. | :41:06. | |
Sandra McKevitt whose niece was attacked in her front garden by five | :41:07. | :41:14. | |
doings. This is the first time she is speaking about the attack since | :41:15. | :41:25. | |
it happened in May. Also two other guests. Some of you may find the | :41:26. | :41:30. | |
photos we are going to show upsetting. How surprised are you | :41:31. | :41:35. | |
Trevor to find that the notices are still not being used? I suppose it's | :41:36. | :41:40. | |
relatively early days, it's still a disappointment. The intention is | :41:41. | :41:44. | |
that it should provide for early inter-General Election to nip the | :41:45. | :41:47. | |
problem in the bud before it gets out of hand. If it's not used, we | :41:48. | :41:51. | |
are missing out on that opportunity. Why are they not being used? It may | :41:52. | :41:56. | |
be that the victims just don't know that they should be complaining | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
about it. It may be councils don't have the resources to deal with it. | :42:01. | :42:08. | |
There could be some kind of confusion between police and council | :42:09. | :42:11. | |
or lack of knowledge from the enforcers themselves. Is it the | :42:12. | :42:15. | |
council's responsibility to issue the notices? Could be the council or | :42:16. | :42:21. | |
the police. Sandra, thank you for coming on the programme. You had the | :42:22. | :42:24. | |
most horrific experience earlier this year with your niece, Ella. | :42:25. | :42:29. | |
Tell our audience a little bit about what happened? We were in the back | :42:30. | :42:36. | |
garden having a picnic with Ella, Corey and Isla and they were | :42:37. | :42:39. | |
starting to play a little game of tag. Then Corey and Isla were near | :42:40. | :42:46. | |
the back door and me and Ella were further up the garden. We heard a | :42:47. | :42:52. | |
loud bang on the six foot fence. The doing's head broke through. I | :42:53. | :42:56. | |
immediately thought, this isn't going to end well, get the kids out | :42:57. | :43:01. | |
of the way. So I asked Isla and Corey to go into the kitchen and | :43:02. | :43:05. | |
stay there until I joined them with Ella. So I told them not tolike at | :43:06. | :43:12. | |
the doings, not to run, take their time, go slowly. And then while I | :43:13. | :43:16. | |
was telling them to do that, I got hold of Elle what's hand and by this | :43:17. | :43:21. | |
time they'd all come through and they were circling us. How many | :43:22. | :43:26. | |
doings? There was five of them. American bulldogs? Yes. American | :43:27. | :43:31. | |
bully doings. I grabbed hold of Ella by the hand to lift her up and one | :43:32. | :43:37. | |
of them had actually sunk his teeth into her shoulder and into her leg | :43:38. | :43:44. | |
and then it was just absolute chaos. I was fighting, punching, kicking | :43:45. | :43:48. | |
the doings trying to get them off her. My neighbour was shouting over | :43:49. | :43:54. | |
his side of the fence, saying try and throw her over. They just | :43:55. | :43:59. | |
wouldn't leave her alone. A neighbour at the back eventually | :44:00. | :44:05. | |
jumped over the fence and distracted them and I saw my chance then to | :44:06. | :44:10. | |
escape with Ella and we got through to the front of the house where | :44:11. | :44:16. | |
people were trying to help us. A medic came first, he thought it was | :44:17. | :44:21. | |
just a doing bite. He was horrified by what he found. I learnt later on | :44:22. | :44:26. | |
that he was actually off with stress because he didn't realise how | :44:27. | :44:31. | |
horrific her injuries were. What kind of injuries did she sustain? | :44:32. | :44:36. | |
They basically just tore her face. Her cheek. You could see her bone, | :44:37. | :44:41. | |
the skull. One of them got her by the mouth and severed all the | :44:42. | :44:50. | |
nerves. They tore at her skull. She was bitten all over on the legs, the | :44:51. | :44:57. | |
back, the arms and the blood was everywhere. The ambulance came. They | :44:58. | :45:05. | |
realised they needed to get her to Alder Hey quickly. So the Air | :45:06. | :45:12. | |
Ambulance landed nearby and they flew her, her heart stopped. She | :45:13. | :45:18. | |
stopped breathing. When she got to Alder Hey, she had to endure an | :45:19. | :45:24. | |
eight-hour operation while the fabulous surgeons there basically | :45:25. | :45:25. | |
had to sew her face back on. Tell us how she is now. She is a | :45:26. | :45:39. | |
fighter. She teaches us. They told us that she would not be able to do | :45:40. | :45:45. | |
anything nowadays and within hours she was sitting up and trying to | :45:46. | :45:49. | |
boss us about. She is totally confused. The other two kids were | :45:50. | :45:57. | |
terrified of dogs before. This has just confirmed their fears. If we go | :45:58. | :46:04. | |
out anywhere, it takes hours of coaxing. Will there be dogs? Where I | :46:05. | :46:12. | |
work, they very generously got a lovely garden set of swings for us, | :46:13. | :46:19. | |
and she wants them indoors. The psychological effects of it. I have | :46:20. | :46:25. | |
nightmares that I have gone blind and she is shouting for me to help | :46:26. | :46:31. | |
her and I can't see her. She wakes up herself screaming get the dogs | :46:32. | :46:40. | |
off me. The others are the same. You had complained about the dogs and he | :46:41. | :46:44. | |
talked about the fact that they were aggressive and there was the stink | :46:45. | :46:50. | |
of dog mess the whole time. I was getting evidence together myself. We | :46:51. | :46:53. | |
basically couldn't go out in the back garden. I had spoken to my | :46:54. | :47:01. | |
neighbour. He is not a bad person. You can talk to him. I will never | :47:02. | :47:05. | |
forget the look on his face when he realised what the dogs had done. He | :47:06. | :47:10. | |
was absolutely distraught. What happened to the dogs and the owner? | :47:11. | :47:15. | |
The dogs were taken away and destroyed. The puppies were given to | :47:16. | :47:24. | |
charity. The dog owner is now in prison. Let me read some messages | :47:25. | :47:30. | |
from people listening to you talk about this. Colleen says I have a | :47:31. | :47:37. | |
band breed pit bull type dog. It has an amazing temperament and it loves | :47:38. | :47:41. | |
children. I believe it is how you treat the dog which determines the | :47:42. | :47:46. | |
way it behaves. John has texted and said he owns a pit bull. I don't | :47:47. | :47:52. | |
think the Dangerous Dogs Act works. As an owner of a dangerous dog, in | :47:53. | :47:56. | |
inverted commas, which he has had since eight weeks old, it is the | :47:57. | :48:02. | |
most placid dog you could ever meet. The issue is at the other end of the | :48:03. | :48:07. | |
lead. The dog is a reflection of you. Tyler says I feel that dog | :48:08. | :48:10. | |
breeds that are known to be violent should be banned. How people with | :48:11. | :48:15. | |
these breed can get away with it, I don't know. What is your take on | :48:16. | :48:26. | |
this and the fact that dogbos are not being used? I can think of | :48:27. | :48:29. | |
nothing worse than this event. Children playing in their own garden | :48:30. | :48:33. | |
should of course be safe. We accept that the Dangerous Dogs Act is not | :48:34. | :48:36. | |
working but there is a reluctance to change because the last thing we | :48:37. | :48:42. | |
want to see is further attacks. We did hope that these new notices | :48:43. | :48:45. | |
would help things. We wanted it to act as an early warning system. In | :48:46. | :48:50. | |
these circumstances, what we have got to remember is that there has | :48:51. | :48:55. | |
been a change in the law to make on private property and offence. That | :48:56. | :48:59. | |
is what is happening in this case. But we want to see things that | :49:00. | :49:03. | |
prevent these attacks from occurring rather than acting after the event. | :49:04. | :49:07. | |
It is all very well prosecuting and destroying the dog. We need | :49:08. | :49:12. | |
prevention. We hoped the new notices would give the opportunity for | :49:13. | :49:16. | |
people to act as an early warning system, to alert the local | :49:17. | :49:19. | |
authorities, and it is very disappointing that they are not | :49:20. | :49:23. | |
being used. The kennel club ran an event for local authorities earlier | :49:24. | :49:26. | |
this year to highlight these issues. It seems that all too often they | :49:27. | :49:30. | |
want to bring in blanket notices to protect certain areas rather than | :49:31. | :49:34. | |
targeting individuals. I think something needs to change. So it is | :49:35. | :49:39. | |
a wasted opportunity in a way? I think it is. It is early days and I | :49:40. | :49:49. | |
think the local authorities need to look at themselves and say what more | :49:50. | :49:52. | |
can we do to protect communities? Thank you very much for talking to | :49:53. | :49:54. | |
us. We appreciate it. And all the best to the children. | :49:55. | :49:57. | |
It's been the surprise hit of the summer. | :49:58. | :49:59. | |
So are Liam Gallagher and ex-England cricket captain Michael Vaughan. | :50:00. | :50:03. | |
Even Jeremy Corbyn has named his favourite contestant. | :50:04. | :50:05. | |
The dating show Love Island comes to a climax this evening. | :50:06. | :50:12. | |
For those who haven't followed every coupling and break up | :50:13. | :50:14. | |
and, full disclosure, that includes me, | :50:15. | :50:16. | |
Put a group of impeccably-groomed, attractive young men and women | :50:17. | :50:21. | |
encourage them to get into couples and watch what happens. | :50:22. | :50:31. | |
The most popular couple at the end of the eight weeks wins ?50,000 | :50:32. | :50:34. | |
Here's a taster of the series and some of its top tweeted moments. | :50:35. | :50:39. | |
At number four, they say honesty is the best policy unless | :50:40. | :50:42. | |
you want people to like you, and Theo really doesn't | :50:43. | :50:44. | |
I think if Tyler really liked him, she should go as well really. | :50:45. | :50:50. | |
I'm just saying, if she really cared... | :50:51. | :50:56. | |
There's a time and a place, and it's not the right | :50:57. | :51:13. | |
At number three, Liv wishes Stormzy would just shut up and Chris | :51:14. | :51:19. | |
At two, just when Olivia thought she was safe, | :51:20. | :51:35. | |
Actually, we threw in a pair of spanners, | :51:36. | :51:39. | |
Absolutely speechless for the first time in my life. | :51:40. | :52:02. | |
At number one, it was a busy old night on Twitter when Johnny | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
ditched Queen Camilla of the Villa and went in for the kill with Tyler. | :52:08. | :52:13. | |
You're very important to me and I would never BLEEP | :52:14. | :52:15. | |
I don't want to see you upset in a million years. | :52:16. | :52:19. | |
There is no relevance of how I feel right now, | :52:20. | :52:21. | |
to what you should then be pursuing with Tyler. | :52:22. | :52:29. | |
Precisely 7.3 seconds after mugging off Camilla, he's away to PDA | :52:30. | :52:36. | |
Kady McDermott came third on last year's show. | :52:37. | :52:46. | |
Jeremy Lumb can't stop watching the programme | :52:47. | :52:48. | |
after his girlfriend introduced him to the show. | :52:49. | :52:51. | |
Sam Taylor, who's the editor of Britain's oldest women's | :52:52. | :52:54. | |
magazine, thinks Love Island sets a bad example. | :52:55. | :52:58. | |
And Emma Kelly is deputy entertainment editor at Metro.co.uk. | :52:59. | :53:05. | |
Welcome. You met Scott on the last series. Are you still together? Yes, | :53:06. | :53:12. | |
we live together and we even have a little dog. It is serious. What was | :53:13. | :53:17. | |
it like starting a relationship on television? Is very weird, I'm not | :53:18. | :53:23. | |
going to live. It isn't your average, is it? But one to tell | :53:24. | :53:27. | |
their grandchildren. Why do you love it? I don't know. At first my | :53:28. | :53:32. | |
girlfriend was watching it and I was watching it with their resentfully, | :53:33. | :53:36. | |
that I got into it and I realised I enjoyed having something mindless to | :53:37. | :53:43. | |
watch in the is evening and talking to everybody about it. I am on so | :53:44. | :53:48. | |
many Whatsapp groups talking about it. Not everybody is watching it! It | :53:49. | :53:53. | |
is getting 2.2 million and it is more popular than the first series. | :53:54. | :53:59. | |
Why? It was a slow burner. It came after Celebrity Love Island and last | :54:00. | :54:04. | |
year it started to get more momentum and people were talking about it and | :54:05. | :54:08. | |
this year it is an event television, which we don't really have other | :54:09. | :54:14. | |
than Strictly Come Dancing and The X factor. Everybody likes talking | :54:15. | :54:19. | |
about what everybody is watching at work the next day. It is a communal | :54:20. | :54:25. | |
event to watch. You invest in the people. Definitely. And you are not | :54:26. | :54:32. | |
a fan? I can't say that I am a fan. It is a mystery to me. It is the | :54:33. | :54:36. | |
lowest common denominator. No disrespect because I am sure it was | :54:37. | :54:40. | |
full of lovely people. But where do we go from here? We have basically | :54:41. | :54:46. | |
got couples just picking each other based on sex. That is it. Sorry, it | :54:47. | :54:53. | |
isn't just based on sex. This year, Gabby Adcock cell are in love, you | :54:54. | :54:56. | |
can tell, and they haven't had sex. -- Gabby and Marcel. I found my soul | :54:57. | :55:06. | |
mate on there and we are going to marry. Sex is a big part of a | :55:07. | :55:10. | |
relationship that it is not just about sex. No, but the highest | :55:11. | :55:18. | |
traffic on social media and the young people I work with, the | :55:19. | :55:21. | |
primary driver seems to be whether or not somebody is going to be | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
getting off with somebody or not. There is a language around that. Is | :55:26. | :55:31. | |
that a bad thing? I think it is a confusing thing particularly for | :55:32. | :55:36. | |
young girls watching that. Is this really the most important thing | :55:37. | :55:40. | |
about me? Walking around in a bikini, as long, bursting a balloon | :55:41. | :55:44. | |
with my bottom. I don't think that is true. My friends that watch it, | :55:45. | :55:51. | |
at least, we watch and it is the latest when somebody had sex, or | :55:52. | :55:55. | |
they are swapping couples, that people are actually watching for the | :55:56. | :56:00. | |
human relationships as well. They invest in the couples and people | :56:01. | :56:03. | |
want to see them commit and work after the show. People can relate to | :56:04. | :56:10. | |
it. That is why it is so big. It is about couples finding out about each | :56:11. | :56:13. | |
other and falling in love. Who doesn't want to watch couples | :56:14. | :56:17. | |
falling in love? Yes, you argue and you have sex, but that is part of a | :56:18. | :56:21. | |
relationship. I think everyone's favourite couple this year is | :56:22. | :56:26. | |
probably the bromance with Chris, nonsexual. That is tribute to the | :56:27. | :56:32. | |
50th anniversary that changed the world for the better! Of course. I | :56:33. | :56:36. | |
am sure Peter Tatchell would tell us. It is also the trials. The | :56:37. | :56:47. | |
ping-pong trial. But you do them on hen dos. You do them on nights out | :56:48. | :56:54. | |
with your friends. Do you? Yes, I think young people relate to these | :56:55. | :56:58. | |
things. You get your bare bottom out and you burst balloon? The girls get | :56:59. | :57:02. | |
their bottoms out because they want to. It is ready to wear thong | :57:03. | :57:09. | |
bikinis and if you have a nice bottom, why not? So girls go to hen | :57:10. | :57:13. | |
dos and squash balloons? I went on a hen do in a beat that we didn't do | :57:14. | :57:16. | |
exactly that but we did fun game that it was the best thing ever. I | :57:17. | :57:21. | |
don't think it is demeaning for lots of these people. They know what they | :57:22. | :57:24. | |
are getting into, they are having fun, they are living in a villa. | :57:25. | :57:29. | |
They are in their 20s and who can say they have been an Love Island? I | :57:30. | :57:34. | |
don't think I said it is demeaning. It is a confusing message for | :57:35. | :57:38. | |
younger women. A lot of the terms, we know that they are printed on | :57:39. | :57:47. | |
Primark T-shirts. Like you are 100% on paper. What I can't understand is | :57:48. | :57:50. | |
they are in front of them, so they are not on paper. If somebody asked | :57:51. | :57:56. | |
you what is your type and use their tall, dark and handsome, that is | :57:57. | :58:01. | |
your type on paper. But they are in front of them? But talking to your | :58:02. | :58:06. | |
friends, you say they are my type on paper. If I like dark hair, I say he | :58:07. | :58:15. | |
is my type on paper. So what would be the next level after Love Island? | :58:16. | :58:19. | |
Where do we go culturally from there? Does it have to go anywhere | :58:20. | :58:26. | |
culturally? Can it just be entertaining escapism? I think so. | :58:27. | :58:31. | |
People have found love and I am an example. It is a dating show. Blind | :58:32. | :58:43. | |
Date, souped up. For the summer. We already have these shows. Naked | :58:44. | :58:48. | |
Attractions. That is something else. We already have these shows and I | :58:49. | :58:56. | |
don't think Love Island is as salacious as people are making it | :58:57. | :59:00. | |
out to be. It is based on people finding love. Yes, they have sex, | :59:01. | :59:04. | |
but couples have sex. And nice people win in the end, broadly | :59:05. | :59:09. | |
speaking? I like to think that Scott and I are nice! I didn't mean that! | :59:10. | :59:15. | |
And the couple that came second, they are engaged. They are head over | :59:16. | :59:19. | |
heels for each other. The couple that came first are unfortunately | :59:20. | :59:23. | |
not together any more but they are expecting a baby. It can happen. The | :59:24. | :59:27. | |
final is tonight. Three of you will be watching. Will you watch the | :59:28. | :59:33. | |
final? I feel compelled to! You will be watching! OK! Thank you for | :59:34. | :59:38. | |
coming in. Coming up: Four out of five NHS trusts are not giving women | :59:39. | :59:44. | |
smear test results within the two week deadline and we will find out | :59:45. | :59:48. | |
why. All the latest news and sport in a moment but first the weather | :59:49. | :59:49. | |
with Carol. Good morning. Weather is mixed fortunes today. In | :59:50. | :00:01. | |
a west, sunshine, but in the east, cloud. Look at these beautiful | :00:02. | :00:05. | |
pictures. Blue skies in Cornwall. Another lovely one from the Wirral. | :00:06. | :00:09. | |
This is Cambridgeshire, where we have got more cloud. You can see | :00:10. | :00:14. | |
nicely in the satellite picture that west is best in terms of sunshine. | :00:15. | :00:19. | |
In central and eastern areas this morning, more cloud. That is | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
producing drizzly outbreaks of rain. Through the day, this weather front | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
responsible for that will push in the direction of the North Sea. It | :00:28. | :00:31. | |
should start to brighten up under the ridge of high pressure across | :00:32. | :00:34. | |
the Midlands for example. East Anglia could see some sunshine | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
through the course of the afternoon as well. If you are anywhere down | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
this North Sea coastline, it will feel quite chilly. We have that | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
onshore wind. It is accents rating the coalfield. If you are in the | :00:48. | :00:56. | |
cloud or rain, you will feel that. -- it accentuates the cold feeling. | :00:57. | :01:04. | |
At Scotland is nicer, with Glasgow reaching 26. Cloud breaking up in | :01:05. | :01:09. | |
Lothian and the Borders towards Northumberland. North West England | :01:10. | :01:13. | |
hanging onto sunshine. Where we have the influence of the weather front, | :01:14. | :01:18. | |
there is more cloud, especially in eastern areas with the rain. East | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
Anglia has got brighter skies and the Midlands has got brain is coming | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
through. We are back into the sunshine as we drift into south-west | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
England. 23 in Cardiff and Plymouth and for most of Wales it will be dry | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
and sunny. Into the evening and overnight, if anything we start to | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
lose the showers. The winds ease down a touch and we get clear skies | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
and isolated pockets of fog, nothing too dramatic. Under clear skies | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
across the Highlands, temperatures will dip down lower than you can see | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
in the charts, down into single figures. Tomorrow we start with | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
sunshine where we have had clear skies by night and there will be | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
some cloud around but through the day, it will turn over and we will | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
see sunny intervals develop in. Drier down the east coast and not as | :02:05. | :02:12. | |
cold as today. We have cloud coming down across Cornwall, the Isles of | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
Scilly, courtesy of this low pressure, and on Wednesday it will | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
rattle quickly from west to east. If you look at the squeeze on the | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
isobars, it will also be quite windy. A blustery, wet day. When she | :02:27. | :02:32. | |
starts off dry in the east, but it will not take long for the rain to | :02:33. | :02:38. | |
rattle through. -- Wednesday starts off dry in the east. It will | :02:39. | :02:44. | |
eventually clear for some. Behind it, bright skies, sunshine and | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
showers. That is how we are going to end the week, sunshine and showers. | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
This week is fairly changeable with the wettest day on Wednesday. And | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
rather cool if you are stuck under the cloud and the rain. And Thursday | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
and Friday and into the weekend, sunshine and showers. | :03:02. | :03:03. | |
Hello it's Monday, it's 10 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire. | :03:04. | :03:06. | |
Our top story today; the judge considering whether to allow doctors | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
to turn off the life support for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard | :03:11. | :03:13. | |
will consider new evidence from an American neurologist today. | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
Charlie's parents say they have been victims | :03:18. | :03:21. | |
of a "backlash" from the public after Great Ormond Street Hospital | :03:22. | :03:24. | |
revealed staff had received death threats. | :03:25. | :03:38. | |
Threats have been made to the staff at Great Ormond Street Hospital and | :03:39. | :03:47. | |
the parents. At no stage has Charlie's supporters condoned any | :03:48. | :03:49. | |
such action. Also on the programme; | :03:50. | :03:51. | |
taken hostage, kidnapped we hear from some of | :03:52. | :03:53. | |
the Yazidi Women and children rescued from so called Islamic | :03:54. | :03:58. | |
State. And, Prince William and Harry have | :03:59. | :04:09. | |
paid moving tributes to their mother in a new documary out tonight | :04:10. | :04:18. | |
to mark the 20th anniversary There were two grandmother's in | :04:19. | :04:32. | |
their lives. It's important that they know that. | :04:33. | :04:40. | |
Paul says baby Charlie should be allowed to die with dignity and it's | :04:41. | :04:50. | |
futile keeping him alive. Another person says he should go to the US, | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
it might improve things but it might not. Give it a try. Why should a | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
judge play God. Charlie Gard's parents are back at | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
the High Court today. The government is promising what it | :05:04. | :05:30. | |
calls a revolution in the way electricity is generated, | :05:31. | :05:33. | |
used and stored. The business secretary, Greg Clark, | :05:34. | :05:35. | |
is to announce more investment in battery technology and details | :05:36. | :05:38. | |
of a competition to boost Under the plans, it's thought | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
households could save up Britain's economic growth | :05:42. | :05:47. | |
forecast has been downgraded by the International Monetary Fund - | :05:48. | :05:53. | |
following a weaker than expected performance at the start | :05:54. | :06:05. | |
of the year. has been downgraded | :06:06. | :06:06. | |
by the International Monetary Fund - following a weaker than expected | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
performance at the In April, it was predicted | :06:12. | :06:13. | |
the economy would grow by two per cent but that figure has now | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
been revised down to 1.7%. The Treasury says the report | :06:18. | :06:20. | |
highlights the importance of a good At least 24 people have been killed | :06:21. | :06:23. | |
and more than 40 injured in a suicide bomb attack | :06:24. | :06:27. | |
in the Afghan capital, Kabul. It's understood the attacker | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
detonated the car bomb close to a bus carrying government | :06:31. | :06:32. | |
employees in the west of the city. It's not yet clear who | :06:33. | :06:35. | |
was behind the attack. Scientists say they're examining | :06:36. | :06:37. | |
a potential breakthrough in the case of the missing Sheffield toddler, | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
Ben Needham - who disappeared on the Greek island of Kos, | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
26 years ago today. Human material has been found | :06:46. | :06:47. | |
in soil samples gathered last Figures obtained by this programme | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
show that powers brought in to curb dog attacks are not being used | :06:53. | :07:10. | |
by the authorities. Community Protection Notices, | :07:11. | :07:13. | |
also known as Dogbos or ASBOs for dogs were brought | :07:14. | :07:15. | |
in 3 years ago. They give police and local | :07:16. | :07:17. | |
authorities more powers to demand dog owners take steps | :07:18. | :07:20. | |
to control their animals' behaviour. More than three quarters of the 311 | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
councils who responded to our Freedom of Information | :07:25. | :07:27. | |
request have not issued a single The Duke of Cambridge has revealed | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
how he tells his children stories about their grandmother, | :07:31. | :07:39. | |
Diana Princess of Wales. As they approach the 20th | :07:40. | :07:40. | |
anniversary of their mother's death, Princes William and Harry have been | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
giving an insight into how It's hard because obviously | :07:46. | :07:56. | |
Katherine didn't know her so she can not really provide that level of | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
detail so I do regularly, putting George and Charlotte to bed, talk | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
about her and try to remind them that there are two grandmothers, | :08:06. | :08:08. | |
there were two grandmothers in their lives. | :08:09. | :08:11. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 10.30. | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
We'll show you more of that documentary later, it's on ITV | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
tonight. Richard on gay sex says partly | :08:22. | :08:38. | |
decriminalised, not decriminalised. Nothing's changed. Even though | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
decriminalised, the long, slow grind of having parry's had profound | :08:45. | :08:52. | |
effects on me -- parity. My hope is that people growing up now are given | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
a chance to live a life without knowing what it's like to be on the | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
outside looking in. Matt says I came out when I was 16, I'm 32 and my | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
parents kicked me out, then they offered me therapy. The therapist | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
asked me to leave and said there's nothing wrong with you, it's your | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
parents that need therapy. Ever since then, my parents slowly | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
changed their view and are now very supportive. Kevin says I came out in | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
1999, my family disowned me. They finally accepted me in 2005. I still | :09:22. | :09:27. | |
get verbal abuse. Only six weeks ago I returned from a night out in | :09:28. | :09:31. | |
London at GAYE, we were abused and spat at on the night bus. My partner | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
and I were upset. The work is not over. Richard says, I came out 25 | :09:37. | :09:40. | |
years ago, the change over those years has been amazingly positive, | :09:41. | :09:44. | |
however there is still a really long way to go. Get in touch with us. If | :09:45. | :09:50. | |
you are texting, you will be charged. Olly is back with the | :09:51. | :09:56. | |
sport! England's women have won the Cricket World Cup for a fourth time. | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
It was a thrilling final against India at Lord's. England batted | :10:03. | :10:08. | |
first. They set a fairly modest 229 for India to chase. They looked like | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
achieving that with a classy knock of 86 from their opener. They | :10:14. | :10:19. | |
collapsed, lost the last seven with 28 runs. Anya Shrubsole was the star | :10:20. | :10:34. | |
of the show. Pure elation I think. I always think it's better winning | :10:35. | :10:37. | |
when you're all out there in the field because you have your | :10:38. | :10:39. | |
team-mates around you. This World Cup's really been a team effort. | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
People have chipped in, we have fought our way through. Haven't | :10:45. | :10:47. | |
necessarily won the prettiest at times. Tournament cricket is all | :10:48. | :10:50. | |
about winning, not necessarily about how you win, it's all about getting | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
over the line. Chris Froome says he'd like to take part in the Tour | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
de France for another five years. He's second on the list of all-time | :11:00. | :11:10. | |
victories. It was the traditional victory parade yesterday. It was his | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
third triumph in a row, he did it without winning a single stage. His | :11:16. | :11:19. | |
winning margin of 54 seconds was the narrowest. He says this tour was the | :11:20. | :11:23. | |
hardest because his rivals were so much better this year. Incredible | :11:24. | :11:29. | |
feeling to ride on to the Elysee even after having done it three | :11:30. | :11:34. | |
times previously. It doesn't diminish at all. It's still all the | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
same emotions here. I mean, it's incredible. Pollutely incredible. -- | :11:40. | :11:46. | |
absolutely incredible. Jordan Spieth had a roller coaster of a day | :11:47. | :11:53. | |
yesterday. He went walk about on the 13th, sliced his drive, spent 20 | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
minutes finding the ball which was unplayable and working out where to | :11:58. | :12:00. | |
drop it with the help of the officials. He finally took his shot | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
from the mid offal the practise area. Three birdies, an eagle saw | :12:07. | :12:14. | |
Spieth claiming the Claret Jug by three shots. His first Open triumph. | :12:15. | :12:20. | |
He's 23, he's also won the Masters and the US Open. Jack Nicklaus is | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
the only other player to have won three major titles at that age. Some | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
football for you, England look almost certain of a quarter-final | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
spots at the European Championship in the Netherlands. They beat Spain | :12:35. | :12:38. | |
2-0 and were helped by a change of heart by the referee. Ellen White | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
handled the ball in the box. The ref awarded Spain a penalty but changed | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
her mind with clarification from England's players that it had been | :12:48. | :12:52. | |
accidental. After that let-off, England's Jodie Taylor doubled their | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
lead, so 2-0 to England. They're top of the group. Scotland's hopes of | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
reaching the quarters is out of their hands. They're bottom of the | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
group after losing 6-0 to England in the first match. They lost 2-1 to | :13:07. | :13:14. | |
Portugal last night. Erin Cuthbert equalised but they fell behind | :13:15. | :13:18. | |
shortly after. The Scots will need a big win and they'll be hoping | :13:19. | :13:26. | |
England beat Portugal. The athletics paras came to an end last night. | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
They won four on the final morning yesterday, including a gold for | :13:32. | :13:36. | |
Sammy Kinghorn who added the 100 metres title to her 200 metres gold. | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
She didn't finish on the podium in the 800. The British team won eight | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
more medals at the Championships than they managed in Doha two years | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
ago. So the paras going from strength-to-strength. Headlines | :13:51. | :13:51. | |
later. Thank you very much. Nearly three years ago, | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
so-called Islamic State fighters swept through northern Iraq | :13:56. | :13:58. | |
where the countries oldest ethnic They expelled thousand | :13:59. | :14:01. | |
of them from their homes Many of the men were shot, | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
while the women and children were kidnapped, taken as hostage | :14:08. | :14:13. | |
and raped in some cases raped The German government has stepped | :14:14. | :14:16. | |
in to help by re-settling many of the women who have managed | :14:17. | :14:22. | |
to escape captivity. We've been given exclusive access | :14:23. | :14:25. | |
to a small group of them who are living in a secret location, | :14:26. | :14:28. | |
in a psychiatric hospital It's the first time many | :14:29. | :14:31. | |
of the women have spoken publicly Our reporter Fiona Lamdin has | :14:32. | :14:36. | |
spent a couple of days with them as they attempted | :14:37. | :14:40. | |
to re-build their lives. As you'd expect with this story some | :14:41. | :14:44. | |
of the details in their story are upsetting and graphic | :14:45. | :14:47. | |
and you may not want 17 Yazidis are living on this | :14:48. | :14:49. | |
corridor in the middle of It's a long way from their | :14:50. | :15:50. | |
home in northern Iraq, Three years ago, on 3rd August 2014, | :15:51. | :15:57. | |
they were attacked by IS fighters. Many of the men were | :15:58. | :16:12. | |
shot, and the women She and her family tried | :16:13. | :16:14. | |
to escape up the mountain, Mount Sinjar, but they couldn't | :16:15. | :16:23. | |
run fast enough. She was then kidnapped, | :16:24. | :16:41. | |
torn apart from her mother, She told me she saw things that | :16:42. | :16:43. | |
will always haunt her. Things which I found very | :16:44. | :17:01. | |
difficult to listen to. We're not allowed to show | :17:02. | :17:03. | |
you where the girls are living. Many of their families | :17:04. | :17:44. | |
are still in captivity. But not far from here, | :17:45. | :17:49. | |
those 17 Yazidis are integrating Many of them are even | :17:50. | :17:51. | |
going to school here as they start So we focus on certain emotions | :17:52. | :17:57. | |
like love, peace and joy, to forget fear, anxiety | :17:58. | :18:06. | |
and other negative emotions. And here to help them, a team | :18:07. | :18:11. | |
of mentors from across the world. Her nephew Amin was only | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
seven when IS fighters He hasn't seen his | :18:16. | :18:25. | |
parents for three years. But in the last month his mother has | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
been spotted in a camp During today's meditation, | :18:31. | :18:33. | |
he imagines that all his people are released and he sees himself | :18:34. | :18:42. | |
reunited, celebrating It's thought his father | :18:43. | :18:44. | |
was killed by IS fighters, the same who kidnapped his | :18:45. | :18:56. | |
aunt and kept her a sex I'm telling them I want them to | :18:57. | :18:59. | |
write down their dreams and goals. After all these girls have been | :19:00. | :20:10. | |
through, it will take years Today's art therapy | :20:11. | :20:13. | |
session is just a start. We can't show you this | :20:14. | :20:20. | |
13-year-old girl. She doesn't know if her | :20:21. | :20:22. | |
parents are still alive. She too was captured by IS, | :20:23. | :20:32. | |
and now only communicates Jacqueline, tell me the difference | :20:33. | :20:35. | |
you have seen in the girls It's incredible, going from tears, | :20:36. | :20:46. | |
sadness, no eye contact... Leading this team is Jacqueline | :20:47. | :20:55. | |
Isaac, an American lawyer, who spends much of her time | :20:56. | :20:58. | |
advocating for women She was working in Iraq, | :20:59. | :21:00. | |
taking aid to those Yazidis who escaped from IS by fleeing | :21:01. | :21:10. | |
to Mount Sinjar - a mountain close to their villages, | :21:11. | :21:13. | |
where many were left I met a mother and she | :21:14. | :21:15. | |
was telling me how her She didn't know | :21:16. | :21:22. | |
what happened to her. Make your government go out | :21:23. | :21:25. | |
there and get our girls, Just days later, in one | :21:26. | :21:33. | |
of the villages below the mountain, Ekhlas managed to escape | :21:34. | :21:43. | |
while her abuser was out fighting. She was taken to a refugee camp | :21:44. | :21:46. | |
and a few days later This footage was filmed just | :21:47. | :21:49. | |
days after her escape. When I first met her, | :21:50. | :22:13. | |
her head was down. There was no eye contact | :22:14. | :22:15. | |
in the beginning. It was a porch, | :22:16. | :22:24. | |
they were all sitting. There were counsellors we had | :22:25. | :22:26. | |
brought, they were sitting on the right-hand side, | :22:27. | :22:32. | |
on stand-by to give I remember thinking, | :22:33. | :22:34. | |
this is not the time This is just the time for | :22:35. | :22:37. | |
recognising them as human beings. The song she is looking | :22:38. | :22:46. | |
for, is a song talking about what happened to her family | :22:47. | :22:49. | |
and her people. Three months later, | :22:50. | :22:51. | |
Ekhlas moved again. She's just one of thousands | :22:52. | :22:53. | |
of Yazidis resettled They go to mainstream school | :22:54. | :22:55. | |
with the rest of the town every day. But their education doesn't solely | :22:56. | :23:10. | |
take place in German classrooms. Back where they live | :23:11. | :23:17. | |
in the hospital, as well as music therapy, they are also being taught | :23:18. | :23:32. | |
English by Jacqueline's team. Despite living 6000 miles apart, | :23:33. | :23:34. | |
Jacqueline is dedicated to these girls, visiting them | :23:35. | :23:41. | |
every few months. But even when she isn't with them, | :23:42. | :23:43. | |
she talks to them online every week, When you look at all the recruits, | :23:44. | :23:54. | |
Isis recruits coming from all over the world, | :23:55. | :24:01. | |
how did they get What if we could reverse | :24:02. | :24:03. | |
what was used as negative? What if we could use the same tool | :24:04. | :24:14. | |
to transform the lives of the next Then we open up a centre in Iraq | :24:15. | :24:17. | |
where over 40 girls are learning English through Skype, | :24:18. | :24:24. | |
through the internet, by teachers who have | :24:25. | :24:27. | |
volunteered their time. Every day the story was, | :24:28. | :24:33. | |
"this is what has happened to me, this is what has happened | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
to my people. But now they are overcoming | :24:38. | :24:38. | |
their story of the past, and creating a story | :24:39. | :24:46. | |
to define their own future. Just last year she | :24:47. | :24:49. | |
addressed our Parliament. The result of her story - | :24:50. | :25:05. | |
the House of Commons unanimously declared Yazidis victims | :25:06. | :25:08. | |
of an Isis genocide. She now wants to become | :25:09. | :25:10. | |
a lawyer here in Germany. Would you like to go back | :25:11. | :25:13. | |
to Iraq to live there? These girls are now | :25:14. | :25:16. | |
starting to live again, but they are living | :25:17. | :25:40. | |
with deep, deep scars. These messages from you. Harrowing | :25:41. | :26:27. | |
ordeal. I hope this young woman can get the help she needs to overcome | :26:28. | :26:31. | |
the trauma. The UK should take these girls from refugee camps and do the | :26:32. | :26:35. | |
same as Germany. That report was from Fiona Landen. | :26:36. | :26:39. | |
The BBC has learned that 80% of NHS areas are failing to meet | :26:40. | :26:42. | |
the government's two week target for women to receive | :26:43. | :26:44. | |
There's currently a backlog caused by future changes to the way | :26:45. | :26:48. | |
Laboratories say they're struggling to retain staff who will no longer | :26:49. | :26:53. | |
be required when automated screening starts in 2019. | :26:54. | :26:58. | |
Let's talk to Lou Armer who waited for seven weeks to receive | :26:59. | :27:01. | |
And Robert Music is the chief executive of Jo's Cervical | :27:02. | :27:09. | |
Welcome to you both. Good morning. Tell us what it is like waiting for | :27:10. | :27:19. | |
seven weeks to get your results. It is horrendous. It is so hard not to | :27:20. | :27:23. | |
get anxious with any test. But the longer it goes on, the more your | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
head ties itself in knots and you start imagining all kinds of things. | :27:29. | :27:36. | |
Not very nice. It is not just impacting on you either, but your | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
family as well, isn't it? Of course the more stressed you are, the more | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
it affects everybody around you. I just worried about it quietly | :27:46. | :27:50. | |
really, and I was waiting for seven weeks and at the end of the seventh | :27:51. | :27:53. | |
week, I got a letter inviting me to go for a smear test when I had just | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
had one. It was at that point when I got in touch with my surgery to find | :27:59. | :28:02. | |
out what was happening. Fortunately I got the result that day but they | :28:03. | :28:06. | |
had only arrived at the surgery that day. I was really stressed and | :28:07. | :28:16. | |
anxious. Why this backlog? Cervical screening, the first thing that we | :28:17. | :28:19. | |
must say is that this is an important and powerful test and it | :28:20. | :28:23. | |
prevents 75% of cervical cancers and we are very lucky to have the | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
programme. The programme is going through some changes. In 2019 it | :28:28. | :28:34. | |
will change. Cervical cancer is caused by the humour papilloma virus | :28:35. | :28:41. | |
in 95% of all cases. And in 2019 they will change the way they look | :28:42. | :28:44. | |
at smear tests. Instead of looking at the cells in a laboratory, they | :28:45. | :28:49. | |
will look at the human papilloma virus DNA. That will identify women | :28:50. | :28:55. | |
who are high risk earlier, and it does mean that there will be a | :28:56. | :28:58. | |
reduction in terms of the numbers of people needed to be working in the | :28:59. | :29:02. | |
laboratories. It seems to me that this is the problem. It is because | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
the programme is changing into people are, leaving the laboratories | :29:07. | :29:09. | |
now and there is a backlog, which is very concerning. What difference | :29:10. | :29:17. | |
could a backlog make when it means that people like Lou are not getting | :29:18. | :29:23. | |
the results in two weeks but are waiting for seven weeks? Anxiety and | :29:24. | :29:32. | |
stress, but hopefully in terms of long-term concerns there are not too | :29:33. | :29:39. | |
many. Some people might fall through the net and get a delayed diagnosis. | :29:40. | :29:43. | |
If people have a bad experience around the programme, they may not | :29:44. | :29:48. | |
come back. We are at a place where cervical screening is at a 19 year | :29:49. | :29:52. | |
low and we are worried about the numbers of people attending. Why is | :29:53. | :29:57. | |
that? You get letters every few years reminding you. But it is up to | :29:58. | :30:00. | |
you to make the appointment. There are many barriers. We are dependent | :30:01. | :30:06. | |
on the different age groups, different ethnicities. Sometimes it | :30:07. | :30:09. | |
is simply access ability. If you are put off by a bad experience, you | :30:10. | :30:14. | |
might not come back. It is very important that we turn around and | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
reduce this backlog. And it is two years until the programme is | :30:21. | :30:23. | |
introduced, so it could get worse, which is a worry. And when you got | :30:24. | :30:29. | |
the results after seven weeks, what were you told, Lou? I was really | :30:30. | :30:32. | |
lucky. It hadn't brought up anything. It was a huge relief. But | :30:33. | :30:37. | |
if it had not been good news, I would have been thrown into another | :30:38. | :30:43. | |
roller-coaster. But I was lucky that it was a good result. That is good | :30:44. | :30:50. | |
to hear. Thank you, Lou and Robert. NHS England say they are working to | :30:51. | :30:54. | |
reduce the backlog. They closely monitor the turnaround times were | :30:55. | :30:57. | |
cervical screening against a very high process measure. That means | :30:58. | :31:01. | |
that 90% of women screened should receive their results within two | :31:02. | :31:07. | |
weeks. Cervical screening saves an estimated 5000 lives a year so it is | :31:08. | :31:10. | |
vital that women take up the opportunity to be tested. | :31:11. | :31:14. | |
The Police Watchdog is investigating the arrest of a young black man who | :31:15. | :31:21. | |
died. We'll bring you the details. And, Chris Froome, Britain's Chris | :31:22. | :31:24. | |
Froome, has won his fourth Tour de France. We'll have a lack at his | :31:25. | :31:30. | |
achievements, what it took to get there and ask why isn't he more | :31:31. | :31:38. | |
loved by the great British public? The latest news headlines with | :31:39. | :31:50. | |
Rachel now. The parents of Charlie Gard are set to return to the High | :31:51. | :31:54. | |
Court. Theth they want to take their baby to the US for experimental | :31:55. | :31:58. | |
treatment. Doctors at Great Ormond Street Hospital believe it won't | :31:59. | :32:01. | |
work and say the 11-month-old should be able to die with dignity. | :32:02. | :32:07. | |
The government is promising what it calls a revolution in the way | :32:08. | :32:10. | |
electricity is generated, used and stored. | :32:11. | :32:13. | |
The business secretary, Greg Clark, is to announce more investment | :32:14. | :32:16. | |
in battery technology and details of a competition to boost | :32:17. | :32:18. | |
Under the plans, it's thought households could save up | :32:19. | :32:22. | |
Britain's economic growth forecast has been downgraded | :32:23. | :32:29. | |
by the International Monetary Fund - following a weaker than expected | :32:30. | :32:33. | |
performance at the start of the year. | :32:34. | :32:40. | |
In April, it was predicted the economy would grow by two | :32:41. | :32:42. | |
per cent but that figure has now been revised down to 1.7%. | :32:43. | :32:45. | |
The Treasury says the report highlights the importance of a good | :32:46. | :32:48. | |
At least 24 people have been killed and more than 40 injured | :32:49. | :32:56. | |
in a suicide bomb attack in the Afghan capital, Kabul. | :32:57. | :32:58. | |
It's understood the attacker detonated the car bomb close | :32:59. | :33:01. | |
to a bus carrying government employees in the west of the city. | :33:02. | :33:05. | |
It's not yet clear who was behind the attack. | :33:06. | :33:25. | |
The IPCC is investigating the death of a 20-year-old black man chased | :33:26. | :33:30. | |
into a shop and restrained by officers in East London. There's | :33:31. | :33:37. | |
been an outcry since security camera footage of the incident was shared | :33:38. | :33:39. | |
on social media. Reacting to what she saw, Pauline, | :33:40. | :34:06. | |
described as the Hackney heroin after the London riots, she knew the | :34:07. | :34:10. | |
young man in that footage and says, he was no angel, he was well liked | :34:11. | :34:14. | |
and helped lots of young people in the community. That boy should be | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
alive today, sitting in a cell somewhere being able to tell his | :34:19. | :34:23. | |
side of the story. But instead he's laying on a morgue waiting for an | :34:24. | :34:27. | |
autopsy and waiting to be buried. And we've got to pick up the pieces, | :34:28. | :34:31. | |
the community's got to pick up the pieces. | :34:32. | :34:34. | |
Former Metropolitan Police superintendent Lee row Logan told me | :34:35. | :34:44. | |
the CCTV footage raises some important questions -- Leroy Logan. | :34:45. | :34:49. | |
I saw the footage and obviously it's showing an officer restraining a | :34:50. | :34:55. | |
person believed to be a suspect and, of course, force was being used | :34:56. | :35:04. | |
around the person's upper body. Of course, we now know that that person | :35:05. | :35:11. | |
has passed away. When it comes to restraining a suspect, presumably | :35:12. | :35:13. | |
proportionality is the key, is it? Absolutely. Whenever any action that | :35:14. | :35:23. | |
an officer has to take has to take into account a person's human rights | :35:24. | :35:32. | |
and that must be clear in an officer's mind and he or she must | :35:33. | :35:38. | |
know that their action has to be proportionate, it has to be legal | :35:39. | :35:45. | |
and it has to be necessary. These are the tests that have to be looked | :35:46. | :35:54. | |
at by the investigating officers in the Independent Police Complaints | :35:55. | :35:58. | |
Commission. Of course, if it goes further, in terms of the Crown | :35:59. | :36:03. | |
Prosecution Service, or even further to the courts. As you well know, | :36:04. | :36:09. | |
there is often no time when it comes to an arresting officer to assess | :36:10. | :36:14. | |
the risks. That's presumably when the training kicks in. You make a | :36:15. | :36:19. | |
judgment, a decision and your training kicks in from there? Yes. | :36:20. | :36:25. | |
Officers are trained, they're professionals, so they should have | :36:26. | :36:29. | |
it clearly in their minds whenever they in any form of encounter with a | :36:30. | :36:35. | |
person, whether it's a suspect or otherwise, they have to do their | :36:36. | :36:41. | |
dynamic risk assessment. It's obviously, bearing in mind a safety | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
to the public, safety to themselves and obviously safety of the suspect, | :36:46. | :36:52. | |
and that's inherent of the job. They have to take these very critical | :36:53. | :36:58. | |
areas into consideration, especially when it comes to a volatile | :36:59. | :37:08. | |
situation, you know. Unfortunately, society, the courts, dictate that | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
officers have to be professional in a volatile situation as they are in | :37:13. | :37:18. | |
a reasonable and slow-moving situation. How significant could it | :37:19. | :37:28. | |
be that the Met say the suspect was taken ill after trying to swallow an | :37:29. | :37:34. | |
object? Well, it's obviously a consideration but however, you ever | :37:35. | :37:40. | |
to lack at it in the cold light of day and the legal test is, was the | :37:41. | :37:46. | |
officer's actions reasonable in trying to remove something out of | :37:47. | :37:49. | |
the person's mouth, if that's what they were trying to do? Fanned that | :37:50. | :38:02. | |
in any way -- if that contributed to that person, you know, being | :38:03. | :38:06. | |
traumatised in some way, that has to be taken into consideration. Those | :38:07. | :38:12. | |
are the things that, yes, it may be seen as a cause for some form of | :38:13. | :38:21. | |
defence, but ultimately, it will be looked at under legal tests of | :38:22. | :38:25. | |
whether it's proportionate and whether it's necessary. Former | :38:26. | :38:31. | |
Metropolitan Police superintendent Leroy Logan. Britain's Chris Froome | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
has won the Tour de France for the fourth time in five years. This is | :38:36. | :38:40. | |
what he said after winning. Incredible feeling to ride on to the | :38:41. | :38:47. | |
Elysee, even after having done it three times previously, it doesn't | :38:48. | :38:51. | |
diminish it at all. It's still all the same emotions are here. It's | :38:52. | :38:54. | |
just incredible. Absolutely incredible. That is astonishing, | :38:55. | :39:01. | |
winning it takes more mental and physical preparation probably than | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
any other event. This tour in particular probably one of the most | :39:06. | :39:10. | |
ferocious. Three weeks, cyclists race 2,000 miles up some of the most | :39:11. | :39:16. | |
difficult hills imaginable. So why doesn't Chris Froome get the | :39:17. | :39:20. | |
recognition he deserves, why doesn't he get the love he deserves from the | :39:21. | :39:27. | |
British public. Let's talk to one of the country's leading cyclists. | :39:28. | :39:30. | |
We'll also hear from Michael Hutchinson on his way back from | :39:31. | :39:34. | |
Paris. David you say Chris Froome is one of the greatest sportsmen of | :39:35. | :39:38. | |
all-time, explain why you believe that? He's won the Tour de France | :39:39. | :39:42. | |
four times and you could easily argue that the Tour de France is the | :39:43. | :39:46. | |
single greatest sporting event, certainly the most gruelling. For | :39:47. | :39:53. | |
anybody to win that four times is pretty astonishing an achievement. | :39:54. | :40:00. | |
You don't have roads to train on, you don't have proper bikes. This is | :40:01. | :40:07. | |
a guy who learnt to cycle. He was a very middle class white kid living | :40:08. | :40:14. | |
in they Roby, he learns to sickle. He goes and lives in a township and | :40:15. | :40:23. | |
survives -- in Nairobi and learns to cycle. You never expect he can end | :40:24. | :40:31. | |
up at the Tour de France and win the race four times. In my view, he's | :40:32. | :40:36. | |
won it clean and I think he's doing an incredible amount to try to | :40:37. | :40:42. | |
restore cycling's lost trust. I'm not sure that he's succeeded, but | :40:43. | :40:46. | |
he's certainly, you know, made his contribution to a very difficult | :40:47. | :40:50. | |
situation. Why don't the British public love him more? I think a lot | :40:51. | :40:57. | |
of people who understand cycling and sport, who understand people do love | :40:58. | :41:02. | |
him. There's plenty of people who don't understand him. I mean, I read | :41:03. | :41:11. | |
this morning he wasn't on the list for BBC Sports personality of the | :41:12. | :41:14. | |
year, sorry it makes a mockery of that. He wasn't on it. The | :41:15. | :41:22. | |
knighthoods that Bradley Wiggins and Dave Brailsford receives, nothing | :41:23. | :41:27. | |
more deserving than a case of Chris Froome for a knighthood. He was born | :41:28. | :41:31. | |
in Kenya, he felt he was British but he's never lived here, which is | :41:32. | :41:36. | |
true, but it would have been a much more romantic story had Chris | :41:37. | :41:41. | |
embraced his kind of Kenyan roots and said, I'm Kenyan, but he didn't | :41:42. | :41:45. | |
feel Kenyan and couldn't fake it. Is that one of the reasons he doesn't | :41:46. | :41:48. | |
live here or play the celebrity game, you know, you are not going to | :41:49. | :41:53. | |
see him having selfies with Paul Weller, for example, or what about | :41:54. | :41:58. | |
Team Sky's difficulties with Bradley Wiggins and the therapeutic use | :41:59. | :42:04. | |
exemptions and the Jiffy bag? Yes, that definitely has seriously | :42:05. | :42:07. | |
impacted on Team Sky with their credibility. It's impacted on | :42:08. | :42:14. | |
Bradley and Dave. The rider most critical of what went on at Team Sky | :42:15. | :42:19. | |
at that time was Chris Froome. He's never supported Dave Brailsford on | :42:20. | :42:23. | |
this, he's been almost hostile towards what happened at that time | :42:24. | :42:29. | |
and that's much to his credit. But the public really, I mean, it's | :42:30. | :42:33. | |
called Sports Personality of the Year for a reason, people latch on | :42:34. | :42:37. | |
to who they see as personalities. The person they love may not be the | :42:38. | :42:42. | |
person who is loved inside the locker room. Chris Froome is adored | :42:43. | :42:48. | |
by the people who write for him. A Polish guy wrote this year about | :42:49. | :42:55. | |
him, he's a young guy, he's a real star of the sport, he completely | :42:56. | :42:59. | |
devoted himself to Chris Froome and I mean I've been covering the France | :43:00. | :43:05. | |
for over 30 years and I would reckon he was the single greatest of | :43:06. | :43:09. | |
keeping his performance of one man subverting all of his own ambition | :43:10. | :43:17. | |
to help his leader. He literally Torode a stand still, he was on a | :43:18. | :43:23. | |
climb -- literally on a rode to a stand still. He couldn't turn the | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
pedals any more. He literally had to stop, put his foot down and try to | :43:28. | :43:32. | |
start again and Froome inspires that kind of loyalty. And team ethic. | :43:33. | :43:36. | |
Yes. Thank you, David, very interesting, thank you. Let me bring | :43:37. | :43:40. | |
in Michael Hutchinson. What is it about Team Sky, what do they have | :43:41. | :43:44. | |
that other teams don't, apart from Chris Froome? ! Team Sky have the | :43:45. | :43:50. | |
highest budget probably of any sports team and they know how to | :43:51. | :43:54. | |
spend it. They're very ruthless and focussed. They analyse the course | :43:55. | :43:59. | |
this year in huge detail, they computer model parts of the courses | :44:00. | :44:04. | |
to discover the best way to ride it. They brought a traditional sport | :44:05. | :44:09. | |
that thrived on flare and panache, they've modernised that. Some people | :44:10. | :44:14. | |
like that a lot better than others. They've got money and know how to | :44:15. | :44:18. | |
spend it so they spend it wisely. On what sort of things, Michael? They | :44:19. | :44:31. | |
spend it on wind tunnel testing. They work on bikes, they've got the | :44:32. | :44:41. | |
best coaches, the best expertise and it's the margin of things. Dave | :44:42. | :44:46. | |
Brailsford when he was in charge of Team GB, it's that brought along to | :44:47. | :44:53. | |
the road cycling. What mental strength does it take to win the | :44:54. | :44:56. | |
Tour de France on several occasions? It's extraordinary. The Tour de | :44:57. | :45:01. | |
France, OK, obviously I'm biassed, I cannot think of another event that | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
is quite as physically relentless and gruelling as three weeks of | :45:06. | :45:09. | |
racing five to six hours a day every day and the mental pressure on | :45:10. | :45:12. | |
someone like Chris Froome. He doesn't get a day off. There are | :45:13. | :45:18. | |
flat stages that are physically easier for him, but he always has to | :45:19. | :45:21. | |
be in the right place, concentrating, never to be caught | :45:22. | :45:24. | |
out. He's in a position now where he's more likely to Les a Tour de | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
France than to win it and you lose it by making a small, silly mistake. | :45:29. | :45:30. | |
Thank you very much, Michael. Some comments from you. Brenda says | :45:31. | :45:45. | |
I always look forward to the Tour de France and I watch it excitedly but | :45:46. | :45:50. | |
the drug revelations of the past spoiled it for me. I didn't watch | :45:51. | :45:54. | |
this tour and I didn't feel elation hearing about Chris Froome's win. | :45:55. | :45:59. | |
And this one, what is the obsession the BBC has about Chris Froome not | :46:00. | :46:00. | |
being loved? Thank you for those. Scientists say they're examining | :46:01. | :46:07. | |
a potential breakthrough in the case of the missing Sheffield toddler, | :46:08. | :46:10. | |
Ben Needham, who disappeared on the Greek island of Kos | :46:11. | :46:12. | |
26 years ago today. Human material has been found | :46:13. | :46:14. | |
in soil samples gathered last Then was 21 months old when he | :46:15. | :46:25. | |
disappeared and his mother had spent the last two and a half decades | :46:26. | :46:29. | |
searching for her son. We can speak to her now. Good morning. Thank you | :46:30. | :46:35. | |
very much for talking to us. I wonder how you respond to the fact | :46:36. | :46:42. | |
that signs of blood have been found on part of a sandal and on soil | :46:43. | :46:47. | |
inside a toy car recovered by the police searching for your son? It is | :46:48. | :46:56. | |
devastating, obviously. We believed what the police told us last year. | :46:57. | :47:06. | |
They didn't have any hard evidence, it was just information they | :47:07. | :47:10. | |
collected from people on Kos and people coming forward. But obviously | :47:11. | :47:21. | |
the samples were traced. They have found what they found and that just | :47:22. | :47:31. | |
confirms it for us. I am finding it quite hard to hear you but we are | :47:32. | :47:34. | |
going to persist, if that is all right with you. That's fine. I will | :47:35. | :47:41. | |
try and speak louder but it is very emotional today so it is difficult | :47:42. | :47:45. | |
to talk. I understand and I am very grateful that you are speaking to | :47:46. | :47:52. | |
us. The Detective Inspector in charge of the investigation, John | :47:53. | :47:56. | |
cousins, says it is still his professional belief that Ben died in | :47:57. | :48:02. | |
an accident at that farmhouse. What do you think? I think so. We have | :48:03. | :48:09. | |
worked very closely with John and the team over the last few years. I | :48:10. | :48:16. | |
couldn't wish for better detectives to have taken on this case and | :48:17. | :48:23. | |
helped. I 100% believe what John believes. When the information that | :48:24. | :48:32. | |
has been released to the public today comes out, what effect does | :48:33. | :48:36. | |
that have on you? Devastating, devastating. Because now we know not | :48:37. | :48:44. | |
only was there an accident at the time, we now know that Ben was taken | :48:45. | :48:55. | |
from the farmhouse and buried somewhere at the second site and | :48:56. | :48:58. | |
then possibly taken from that site and put elsewhere. It is horrific to | :48:59. | :49:04. | |
think that somebody could do that to a small child. It is devastating. I | :49:05. | :49:17. | |
am really sorry. I can't understand how any human being could do such a | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
thing. It is horrific, absolutely horrific. I wonder if you could give | :49:22. | :49:30. | |
our audience a little insight into the impact on you of spending all | :49:31. | :49:37. | |
this time trying to find out what happened to your little boy. It has | :49:38. | :49:49. | |
made me a very strong and independent person but it has also | :49:50. | :49:54. | |
torn mine and my family's lives apart. We will never be able to live | :49:55. | :49:59. | |
like a normal family. The search for Ben has always come first. | :50:00. | :50:05. | |
Throughout the last 26 years. Traumatic. You live your life on a | :50:06. | :50:11. | |
roller-coaster constantly, up and down, up and down, trying to deal | :50:12. | :50:16. | |
with emotions, depression, anxiety, torment, anger, frustration, | :50:17. | :50:22. | |
everything, week after week, month after month, year after year. It is | :50:23. | :50:27. | |
totally soul destroying. For these people to have watched this all | :50:28. | :50:34. | |
these years as well. These people have seen myself and my family on TV | :50:35. | :50:38. | |
begging and pleading for information and they kept it secret 26 years. I | :50:39. | :50:43. | |
don't know how anybody could do that to a family that has clearly given | :50:44. | :50:53. | |
their lives to trying to find him. You definitely believe that there | :50:54. | :50:56. | |
are some people still alive who know what happened and they should come | :50:57. | :51:01. | |
forward? Yes, I do. I do believe that. Definitely. At least one | :51:02. | :51:11. | |
person. I am 100% sure of that. I am sure the police would say that as | :51:12. | :51:19. | |
well. It has been one big cover-up to protect the man that had the | :51:20. | :51:25. | |
accident in the first place. I just think if these people have got any | :51:26. | :51:29. | |
ounce of humanity left in their bodies, they should let us know | :51:30. | :51:31. | |
where he is. They could do it anonymously. They don't have to give | :51:32. | :51:36. | |
their name. They could send an email to the police, even directed to | :51:37. | :51:40. | |
myself. We just want to find where he is now. Thank you very much. We | :51:41. | :51:49. | |
really appreciate your time. Thank you for talking to us on the | :51:50. | :52:01. | |
programme today. Thank you. Kerry Needham appealing for the one person | :52:02. | :52:05. | |
who she believes has information to come forward and get in touch with | :52:06. | :52:09. | |
the police and help them find Ben. Next on the programme, Prince | :52:10. | :52:15. | |
William reveals how he tells his children stories about their late | :52:16. | :52:19. | |
grandmother, Diana Princess of Wales. Prince Harry also speaks | :52:20. | :52:22. | |
candidly about their relationship with their mother. It is an an ITV | :52:23. | :52:26. | |
documentary that goes out tonight as they approach the 20th anniversary | :52:27. | :52:32. | |
of Diana's death. It includes moving tributes from Sir Elton John and the | :52:33. | :52:36. | |
princes speak of their regret that their last conversation with their | :52:37. | :52:41. | |
mother was rushed phone call. A photograph of the two boys made | :52:42. | :52:46. | |
public for the first time sums up the sense of fun described by Prince | :52:47. | :52:51. | |
William. Two decades on from her death, Prince William describes how | :52:52. | :52:54. | |
he keeps Diana's memory alive for his children. Constantly talking | :52:55. | :53:02. | |
about granny Diana. We have photos around. It is hard because Catherine | :53:03. | :53:10. | |
didn't know her. She cannot really provide that level of detail. I | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
regularly when I put George and Charlotte to bed talk about her. I | :53:15. | :53:20. | |
remind them that there were two grandmothers in their lives and it | :53:21. | :53:24. | |
is important that they know who she was and she existed. Prince Harry | :53:25. | :53:29. | |
was 12 when his mother died. He reflects with one of her friends, | :53:30. | :53:33. | |
self and John, about the work they did as committed AIDS activists. -- | :53:34. | :53:40. | |
Sir Elton John. It was considered to be a gay disease. Was someone within | :53:41. | :53:47. | |
the royal family, a woman, straight, to have someone care from the other | :53:48. | :53:52. | |
side was an incredible gift. And you can see it as well. You look back to | :53:53. | :53:57. | |
these days, when the reality was doom and gloom. The reality then was | :53:58. | :54:03. | |
doom and gloom, yet everybody in that photograph is smiling. Because | :54:04. | :54:08. | |
of her. She had an energy, a radiance. Look at her face in every | :54:09. | :54:13. | |
photograph, there is a positive, wonderful glow. She had this | :54:14. | :54:16. | |
incredible ability that he inherited from me, and I said thank you, to | :54:17. | :54:22. | |
make them feel that everything would be all right. I haven't experienced | :54:23. | :54:27. | |
many people who had that ability. She could walk into a room of people | :54:28. | :54:30. | |
and make them feel that everything was great. Wow. The brothers recall | :54:31. | :54:36. | |
the last time they spoke to her and they reflect on the overwhelming | :54:37. | :54:40. | |
public reaction and how they coped with the week that culminated in her | :54:41. | :54:47. | |
funeral. In the documentary, Diana's children share their most intimate | :54:48. | :54:51. | |
memories of her. This is quite a special picture. It is quite sweet. | :54:52. | :54:58. | |
It is the first time that the two of us have ever spoken about her as a | :54:59. | :55:02. | |
mother. Believe it or not, you and I are both in this photograph. You are | :55:03. | :55:08. | |
in her tummy. Arguably a little bit to draw up until this point. It is | :55:09. | :55:17. | |
still raw. -- little bit too raw. Not many days go by that I don't | :55:18. | :55:21. | |
think about her. The 20th anniversary seems like a good time | :55:22. | :55:24. | |
to remember all the good things about her and hopefully provide a | :55:25. | :55:27. | |
different side to know that others have not seen before. We felt | :55:28. | :55:32. | |
incredibly loved, Harry and I. I am very grateful that the love still | :55:33. | :55:42. | |
feels there. It was that love. Even if she was on the other side of the | :55:43. | :55:44. | |
room, as her son, you could feel it. Our mother was a total paid through | :55:45. | :56:00. | |
and through. When everybody says to me, she was fun, give us an example, | :56:01. | :56:04. | |
all I can hear is her laughter in my head. That crazy laughter, just pure | :56:05. | :56:19. | |
happiness showing on her face. One of her motto is to me was you can be | :56:20. | :56:24. | |
as naughty as you want, just don't get caught. She was one of the | :56:25. | :56:27. | |
naughtiest parents. She would come and watch us play football and | :56:28. | :56:32. | |
smuggle sweets into our socks. I remember walking back from the | :56:33. | :56:36. | |
football match and having five packets of Starburst. That | :56:37. | :56:45. | |
documentary is broadcast on ITV and STV at nine o'clock tonight. Thank | :56:46. | :56:51. | |
you for your emails about being gay and coming out, and the way people | :56:52. | :57:03. | |
reacted. It is 50 years since the decriminalisation of two grown | :57:04. | :57:05. | |
consenting men having sex, effectively. 50 years this week. | :57:06. | :57:09. | |
David said he moved from Aldershot where he was not only out as gay but | :57:10. | :57:13. | |
about his involvement with the international AIDS crisis. I was | :57:14. | :57:21. | |
never assaulted in a military town. That was in Margaret Thatcher's | :57:22. | :57:25. | |
time. But having gone back into the closet in Exeter so I could care for | :57:26. | :57:29. | |
my elderly parents, I was attacked six times in the thirsty and the | :57:30. | :57:35. | |
police didn't do. After several more police constables, things are | :57:36. | :57:41. | |
improving but I am still being hassled by so-called Christians. Now | :57:42. | :57:44. | |
it is the politicians refusing to act. And this one, it is good to | :57:45. | :57:51. | |
offer people the opportunity to comment anonymously but it is sad | :57:52. | :57:55. | |
that people have got to. As a bisexual woman I have never | :57:56. | :57:59. | |
experienced prejudice. Maybe because it is taking the least seriously. | :58:00. | :58:03. | |
Most straight men find the notion titillating. I have been with the | :58:04. | :58:10. | |
men and the amount of times I am asked if I bring other women home to | :58:11. | :58:14. | |
him is ridiculous. Monogamy is monogamy, no matter what happens | :58:15. | :58:18. | |
between someone's legs. Thank you for that, Christina, and thank you | :58:19. | :58:22. | |
for giving your name. Tomorrow we hear from former Jehovah's Witnesses | :58:23. | :58:25. | |
who say they have been shunned by their community and their religion | :58:26. | :58:29. | |
after leaving it. Thank you for your company and have a good day. | :58:30. | :58:32. |