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Hello, it's Friday, it's 9am. Welcome to the programme. | :00:11. | :00:24. | |
More than 80 people died in the tragedy in June. Our reporter will | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
have the latest on the results in the next few minutes. How easy is it | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
to buy deadly diet pills online? The parents of a young woman who died | :00:33. | :00:36. | |
from taking them tell this programme they're shocked at how little is | :00:37. | :00:41. | |
known about them and how to tell the signs of people using them. More | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
setbacks for Donald Trump in his bid to scrap the healthcare laws set up | :00:46. | :00:50. | |
by President Obama as the Senate rejeths his latest plans. This | :00:51. | :00:54. | |
latest blow comes as the President's new communications chief is forced | :00:55. | :00:59. | |
to say sorry for his outburst on White House colleagues. | :01:00. | :01:10. | |
Lots coming up today, have you bought diet pills? | :01:11. | :01:21. | |
- many are illegal and deadly but can be bought online. | :01:22. | :01:27. | |
Get in touch with us as we are talking | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
about that also some new research that might seem a bit suprising | :01:31. | :01:34. | |
which is that people who drink three to four times a week are LESS likley | :01:35. | :01:37. | |
to develop type 2 diabetes than those who never drink - | :01:38. | :01:41. | |
Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning - | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged | :01:46. | :01:48. | |
The BBC understands at least 60 buildings have failed a new fire | :01:49. | :02:02. | |
safety test. The test is seen as more they were owe than previous | :02:03. | :02:06. | |
ones as more materials were analysed together for the first time. So far, | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
just nine of the buildings which failed have been identified. They're | :02:11. | :02:15. | |
in Salford in Greater Manchester. The local council is asking for help | :02:16. | :02:18. | |
from central Government to meet the cost of replacements. Ministers will | :02:19. | :02:22. | |
publish the full test findings later this morning. Dan Johnson reports. | :02:23. | :02:30. | |
While those touched by Grenfell wait for a full picture of how this fire | :02:31. | :02:34. | |
spread, other residents in other towers are nervous, | :02:35. | :02:36. | |
These blocks in Salford, nine of them, are among the 60 | :02:37. | :02:39. | |
across England we understand will be declared a risk after failing | :02:40. | :02:42. | |
The thought of you not being safe when you're sleeping in bed | :02:43. | :02:48. | |
of a night-time, thinking that that's not safe, | :02:49. | :02:50. | |
I don't care how much money it cost - it's not money, | :02:51. | :02:57. | |
it's people's lives at the end of the day. | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
I think we're sitting on a tinderbox when you look at all the flats. | :03:02. | :03:04. | |
Some of the cladding had already come down. | :03:05. | :03:06. | |
In the first round of tests, panels from every building failed. | :03:07. | :03:14. | |
After criticism that wasn't realistic, experts have now combined | :03:15. | :03:22. | |
cladding and the insulation fitted behind it to show which materials | :03:23. | :03:25. | |
are dangerous when they're put together, like they were on Grenfell | :03:26. | :03:27. | |
Yesterday, the police said there were reasonable grounds | :03:28. | :03:30. | |
to suspect corporate manslaughter may have been committed | :03:31. | :03:32. | |
by the council or the tenant management organisation. | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
More than six weeks since Grenfell burned, the investigation | :03:38. | :03:40. | |
is finding its focus while the reverberations reach right | :03:41. | :03:42. | |
Ben Brown has a summary of the rest of the day's news. | :03:43. | :04:09. | |
The emergency services are saying they have attended to 40 people at | :04:10. | :04:16. | |
the station, one person is seriously injured, 18 in total taken to | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
hospital, including the train driver and 20 other people have minor | :04:21. | :04:25. | |
injuries. This is in a central Barcelona train station, a major | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
hub. We are talking about Spain's regional trains, they travel | :04:31. | :04:33. | |
relatively short distances, not at high speed. Looking at the pictures, | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
what appears to have happened is that the train crashed into the | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
buffers of the station so no other train involved, possibly the train | :04:42. | :04:44. | |
didn't stop and this is nothing on the scale of other rail disasters we | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
have seen in Spain in recent years, most notably in 2013 when 80 people | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
were killed, thankfully no one killed in this incident but clearly | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
something has gone wrong when this train crashed at around about 7 am | :04:58. | :05:08. | |
local time. Thank you very much. Philip ham manned has said there is | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
broad agreement -- Hammond has said there is broad agreement in Cabinet | :05:13. | :05:15. | |
that there should and transition period of up to three years after | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
Brexit but it should be concluded before the next election in 2022. | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
The Chancellor said a failure to implement a transition deal would | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
sow chaos for business and that it was in the interests of the EU and | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
Britain to have the transition that allows the economies to adjust. My | :05:32. | :05:34. | |
view is well known, I believe it will be in Britain's interests and | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
in the EU's interests if, after we leave the European Union, the single | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
market and the customs union on 29th March, 2019, there is then a period, | :05:45. | :05:50. | |
call it transition, interim period, whatever you like, during which we | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
will allow our economies to adjust to the new situation, rather than | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
having a cliff-edge in March 2019 which would cause immense disruption | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
for businesses and for citizens. The Chancellor. | :06:04. | :06:10. | |
President Trump has suffered a defeat on one of his key campaign | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
pledges to reform US healthcare. A number of republicans including John | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
McCain voted against a bill which would have repealed the healthcare | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
law passed by President Obama. The bill was rejected in a late night | :06:26. | :06:31. | |
vote by 51 votes to 59. The republican party leader described it | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
as disappointing. The Labour Party say defence cuts | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
have left the UK reliant on other countries to protect British waters. | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
Figures obtained by the party show Nato allies sent nearly 40 planes to | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
the UK last year to help with maritime patrols. The Ministry of | :06:50. | :06:51. | |
Defence says most of the aircraft were for training and military | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
exercises. Four men have been arrested after | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
they tried to make an explosive device at Cardiff prison. It came to | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
light when a prison worker contacted a Welsh Assembly member, Bethan | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
Jenkins, with concerns about staffing. Aid workers in Greece have | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
told BBC news they're dealing with hundreds of extremely vulnerable | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
refugees being held on the island of Lesbos. Many have suffered torture | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
and sexual abuse at the hands of so-called Islamic State in Syria and | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
Iraq. The European Commission said those refugees should be moved to | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
Athens for specialist treatment. Two teenagers are in custody in | :07:30. | :07:32. | |
connection with one of the recent wild fires in the south of France. | :07:33. | :07:36. | |
The pair are expected of so deliberately set fire to scrub land | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
on Tuesday. The fires, which led to thousands of people, including | :07:41. | :07:43. | |
British holiday-makers evacuated, have largely now been put out. | :07:44. | :07:47. | |
Firefighters have warned people to be vigilant as other blazes could | :07:48. | :07:52. | |
still start. People who drink alcohol three to | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
four times a week are 30% less likely to develop type two diabetes | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
than those who never drink. More than 70,000 people took part in a | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
large Danish health study that measured drinking habits. The UK's | :08:07. | :08:11. | |
leading diabetes charity warns this is not a green light to drink | :08:12. | :08:12. | |
excessively. The study also found that not all | :08:13. | :08:59. | |
alcohol is equal. Wine appeared to be particularly beneficial, as the | :09:00. | :09:02. | |
chemical compounds, especially in red wine, seem to help manage blood | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
sugar. And there was a warning to women to stay clear of gin. A daily | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
tipple or other spirits increased their diabetes risk by 83%. Diabetes | :09:12. | :09:17. | |
UK, however, warns that the effect of alcohol on developing diabetes | :09:18. | :09:22. | |
differs from one person to the next. Where did the people who were | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
drinking an awful lot, when was this happening? Was there different times | :09:26. | :09:31. | |
of the year they were drinking more alcohol that had an impact. For | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
example, if you are in the festive season people drink more and eat | :09:37. | :09:40. | |
more. Those things really weren't discussed in much detail. While this | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
study is in early stages, it is hoped it might spur future research | :09:46. | :09:48. | |
to help some of the 12 million Britons currently at risk of | :09:49. | :09:49. | |
developing type two diabetes. Public health England have been in | :09:50. | :10:07. | |
touch to say: It is not helpful to talk about the | :10:08. | :10:14. | |
effect of alcohol consumption on diabetes alone. | :10:15. | :10:18. | |
Bags of rubbish are piling up in Birmingham as bin collectors | :10:19. | :10:26. | |
A row with the council over job losses and changes to working | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
Thousands of residents have been affected, despite council efforts | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
to add extra collections, and many people are | :10:35. | :10:36. | |
The strike is set to last until September. | :10:37. | :10:49. | |
A driver lost control of his new Ferrari, one hour after he bought | :10:50. | :10:56. | |
the vehicle. The police have released these pictures of the | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
wrecked car after it left the M1 during wet weather. Remarkably, the | :11:01. | :11:11. | |
driver escaped with minor injuries. That's a summary of the latest news. | :11:12. | :11:20. | |
Now the sport. England are through to the | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
quarter-finals of the Euro 2017, the women's championship. Scotland | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
missed out by that much, it was an extraordinary night in the | :11:29. | :11:30. | |
Netherlands. We will start with England. Ten changes to the team for | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
the match after winning the first two games. A mistake from the | :11:35. | :11:43. | |
Portugal keeper allowed Toni Duggan to score. It was in the downhill | :11:44. | :11:50. | |
from there. It wasn't a good first half performance. In the second half | :11:51. | :11:57. | |
two minutes into it, Paris suggested England were going to play much | :11:58. | :12:02. | |
better. England go on to play France in the quarter-finals. This is very | :12:03. | :12:09. | |
difficult because they have not beaten France since 1974 and also | :12:10. | :12:12. | |
they've lost in the last three major tournaments, as well. Can they carry | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
on winning ugly or any other way? Here is the coach. We go into this | :12:18. | :12:20. | |
knockout round feeling like whatever is going to come our way, we have | :12:21. | :12:23. | |
the answers to those questions and we can find solutions. Of course it | :12:24. | :12:27. | |
will be a difficult challenge, France ash great team. We have to | :12:28. | :12:34. | |
get ready for that but we are going to enjoy tonight first. We are | :12:35. | :12:36. | |
already excited with the quarter-final. How close were | :12:37. | :12:39. | |
Scotland? One goal away from joining England. They beat Spain 1-0. An | :12:40. | :12:46. | |
impressive result. But their opponents go through instead. There | :12:47. | :12:50. | |
was a chance to send them through to the last eight but they missed from | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
three yards. Head in hands, quite right. This brings to an end what | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
was Scotland's first ever major tournament and they were that close | :13:00. | :13:02. | |
to making it through to the last eight. You can understand why | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
they're feeling that disappointed. Yeah, frustrating stuff. Let's talk | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
about horse racing. This is bizarre. A crazy mix-up at Yarmouth race | :13:12. | :13:15. | |
course. Look at this, this is the Racing Post ready for you, this is | :13:16. | :13:19. | |
the story on the front page. Yarmouth shambles as the wrong horse | :13:20. | :13:29. | |
wins at 50-1. The first race was won by a horse called Mandarin Princess | :13:30. | :13:35. | |
as so we thought, it turns out it was her stable-mate who was there to | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
run the 4th race. He said he was rushed to get the | :13:40. | :13:49. | |
saddling process done. Didn't realise it was the wrong horse at | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
the time. They only realised afterwards when they scanned the | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
micro chip in every race horse's neck, realised it was the other | :13:58. | :14:03. | |
horse, who was a year older and has run ten races. He says it was an | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
honest mistake, the result officially must stand for betting | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
purposes. In case you are on that 50-1, you are still going to win. It | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
is likely that Charlie McBride will get a fine. Do the horses look | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
similar? They're the same colour. The difference between a | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
dwo-year-old and three-year-old filly I will defer to people who | :14:28. | :14:32. | |
know horses more than me. Also if you have a series of things to go | :14:33. | :14:35. | |
through before every race as a trainer he will have more than | :14:36. | :14:38. | |
probably the two horses on that day, as well. He will have a lot to get | :14:39. | :14:45. | |
through. You can understand why he might not have necessarily checked | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
it. Also let's talk about residents in a small Welsh village, if they | :14:50. | :14:52. | |
had gone to the local charity shop yesterday would have done quite | :14:53. | :14:55. | |
well. They would have had to be quick, though. Sam Warburton decided | :14:56. | :15:01. | |
instead of going to a private fancy dinner or auction to sell off | :15:02. | :15:08. | |
memorabilia from a sporting achievement, his Lions kit from New | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
Zealand which he captained, he took it to his local charity shop instead | :15:14. | :15:16. | |
and he tweeted his arrival at the charity shop. There he is with bags | :15:17. | :15:27. | |
and all. It's in Rhiwbina in Wales. It was available from yesterday at a | :15:28. | :15:32. | |
cancer care shop. You can imagine if it was available by 4pm, it might | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
have been gone by ten past. Thank you. | :15:37. | :15:49. | |
We understand 60 high-rise buildings have failed a new fire safety test. | :15:50. | :15:56. | |
The test is seen as more thorough as more materials were analysed | :15:57. | :15:57. | |
together for the first time. Jim has been covering this from the | :15:58. | :16:08. | |
first day of the peers with us now. If you look at a photograph of the | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
outside of Grunfeld Tower quit your notice two things will to the | :16:14. | :16:19. | |
cladding panels are aluminium, much thinner than you would imagine. We | :16:20. | :16:24. | |
have already had safety tests. They have come back as failing the safety | :16:25. | :16:38. | |
tests. There is also a secondary material on here. This is the | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
installation behind the cladding materials some in local government | :16:43. | :16:46. | |
and in the construction industry want a more comprehensive test. Who | :16:47. | :16:50. | |
are not just testing cladding panels can you are testing the whole | :16:51. | :16:55. | |
system. That is what we are hearing about today. This is a much more | :16:56. | :17:01. | |
thorough tests. We will show you a version. This is video footage to | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
give you an idea of what we are looking at. This is a mock-up of the | :17:07. | :17:10. | |
outside of the building. We will look at how it responds in the event | :17:11. | :17:17. | |
of a serious fire that there are different combinations of | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
installation and cladding. We have the first results back. That is on | :17:22. | :17:25. | |
the same combination that was on the outside of Grunfeld Tower. It has | :17:26. | :17:30. | |
failed. There are another 60 buildings across England with that | :17:31. | :17:34. | |
similar combination of installation and cladding on the outside of the | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
buildings. We are not being told where yet. We do understand the only | :17:40. | :17:48. | |
council owned properties are in Salford in Manchester. Nine blocks | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
there, we think. The others will be owned by private landlords and by | :17:54. | :17:57. | |
housing associations. We should get some idea about where they are later | :17:58. | :18:02. | |
this morning. This is coming from Sean. When you look around, the | :18:03. | :18:07. | |
cladding method seems to be prevalent on many buildings, | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
hospitals, schools, hotels, pretty much all modern constructions. I | :18:12. | :18:20. | |
noticed there were similar blocks. Are all the methods of construction | :18:21. | :18:25. | |
being tested or just on residential blocks? At the moment it is on all | :18:26. | :18:31. | |
blocks. Any organisation concerned can send in products for testing. | :18:32. | :18:36. | |
That is why you have started to see results from hospitals and student | :18:37. | :18:40. | |
accommodation. Just because there is cladding on the outside of the | :18:41. | :18:44. | |
building does not necessarily mean it is unsafe. It is that combination | :18:45. | :18:50. | |
of big specific type of cladding and is the Civic type of installation | :18:51. | :18:52. | |
construction industry and the Government concerned about. There | :18:53. | :18:59. | |
are concerns about this specific combination. 60 buildings across | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
England is not an unsubstantial number. Yesterday, there was more | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
news about the police investigation. This came back yesterday afternoon | :19:10. | :19:15. | |
for that there are reasonable grounds to suspect corporate | :19:16. | :19:18. | |
manslaughter offences. This is a relatively new law. This only came | :19:19. | :19:24. | |
in in 2008. That means it is a criminal offence to cause death by | :19:25. | :19:28. | |
negligence if you are an organisation or a company. They will | :19:29. | :19:35. | |
presumably be wanting to question executives from both the council and | :19:36. | :19:41. | |
the TMO, the tenants Management organisations are involved in | :19:42. | :19:45. | |
running the block at the time it can lead to large fines. It does not | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
mean because they are pursuing corporate manslaughter charges they | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
can look at individual manslaughter charges further down the line. Back | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
could presumably ends in prison time. The speculation is it will be | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
much further along in the process. I know we will speak to you later on | :20:04. | :20:05. | |
as the tests come out. The island of Lesbos is one | :20:06. | :20:11. | |
of the main entry points for migrants fleeing wars | :20:12. | :20:14. | |
in the middle east for Amongst the migrants that | :20:15. | :20:16. | |
arrive their daily are people with extreme vulnerabilities, | :20:17. | :20:19. | |
resulting from traumatic experiecnes in war torn countries | :20:20. | :20:21. | |
like Syria and Iraq. Such people should in theory be | :20:22. | :20:23. | |
entitled to be relocated to the mainland to get they support | :20:24. | :20:25. | |
they need, but aid workers have told the BBC that hundreds of extremely | :20:26. | :20:28. | |
vulnerable people are being kept on the island and are | :20:29. | :20:31. | |
therefore being deprived Our correspondent Gavin Lee joins us | :20:32. | :20:33. | |
from the island now. Tell us what the situation is like | :20:34. | :20:53. | |
and the conditions the migrants are living in? | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
On Lesbos there are 4000 migrants. Many have been waiting for a long | :20:59. | :21:07. | |
time. Most migrants are waiting for an asylum application for the | :21:08. | :21:12. | |
Syrians will be sent back to Turkey most likely. They are waiting for a | :21:13. | :21:17. | |
legal decision. This is something different. What aid agencies are | :21:18. | :21:22. | |
saying is, because of the fall of IS in parts of cracker in Mosul, a lot | :21:23. | :21:28. | |
of victims, people who have fled to tension, male victims of torture, | :21:29. | :21:33. | |
women sex slaves, they are here on the island. The | :21:34. | :21:46. | |
protocol as they should be taken straight off to get primary care, | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
psychiatric help, on the mainland. It is not happening. I have spent | :21:51. | :21:53. | |
the last few days speaking to those who need the most help and finding | :21:54. | :21:54. | |
out why they are still here. Rare footage from a place | :21:55. | :21:55. | |
journalists are banned. It shows tents have been | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
replaced by containers, a reflection of Europe's waiting | :22:01. | :22:02. | |
room being made a little more long-term for the 4,000 | :22:03. | :22:05. | |
being held on the island. Most are destined to return | :22:06. | :22:07. | |
to Turkey, to apply for asylum from there, as part of the EU's | :22:08. | :22:10. | |
migration plan, but as they wait for a legal decision, | :22:11. | :22:13. | |
violence, rioting and fires The camps are full and migrants, | :22:14. | :22:15. | |
though small in number, The people arriving here | :22:16. | :22:18. | |
in Lesbos are different now, because of the ripple effects | :22:19. | :22:22. | |
of the conflicts in Iraq and Syria. Since so-called Islamic State | :22:23. | :22:25. | |
started to lose ground, many who arrived in Greece have | :22:26. | :22:27. | |
escaped attention, men tortured by tortured by IS fighters, | :22:28. | :22:32. | |
women used as sex slaves. There is little support for them | :22:33. | :22:35. | |
and it is worsening the problem You need to improve the health care | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
that is given to these people. If they are vulnerable, | :22:40. | :22:45. | |
they need to be recognised as such, and they need to move to somewhere | :22:46. | :22:48. | |
where they can receive care. The reality is, there isn't this | :22:49. | :22:50. | |
care here on the island, and they need to move | :22:51. | :22:53. | |
to the mainland to receive it. Osama was once a Syrian policeman, | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
but was caught by rebel groups He says he was regularly beaten | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
and sexually abused his captors. I have so many marks of torture | :23:02. | :23:11. | |
on my body, he tells me. I have been in captivity | :23:12. | :23:15. | |
for three years. All this, he says, and I'm here now | :23:16. | :23:17. | |
in this humiliation for one year. Another man from Mosul, | :23:18. | :23:28. | |
who doesn't want to be identified, tells me he was held hostage | :23:29. | :23:30. | |
by IS for more than a year. "I have been harmed here, I lost my | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
money, passports, all stolen. Before this place, my wife spent six | :23:36. | :23:38. | |
months in captivity too. She collapsed in | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
the street yesterday. The Greek refugee policy is clear, | :23:43. | :23:44. | |
that extremely vulnerable migrants should be taken off the island | :23:45. | :23:50. | |
quickly for specialist Greek authorities claim they have | :23:51. | :23:53. | |
been overwhelmed by cases and say I would at this point like to remind | :23:54. | :23:59. | |
you that 30,000 people have come through this island since March | :24:00. | :24:08. | |
2016, so there can be individual that may not have been | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
processed as quickly. For the moment, those needing | :24:12. | :24:20. | |
the most help are still waiting. And with more migrants arriving | :24:21. | :24:23. | |
and the camp increasing, the vulnerable are left to cope | :24:24. | :24:26. | |
in volatile, I have covered this crisis in Greece | :24:27. | :24:44. | |
and Italy. The dynamic is different now. We have heard from some on the | :24:45. | :24:48. | |
island for that everyone is agreed they have to come. You have the aid | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
agencies and the EU saying those who need it most should be getting | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
psychiatric treatment in Athens. The Greek government is working on it. | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
It is about communication between them the aid agencies. | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
We can speak now to Louise Roland-Gosselin in Athens. | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
She's a representative of the charity Doctors | :25:12. | :25:17. | |
Without Borders, and has recently been on Lesbos, from Lesbos | :25:18. | :25:19. | |
itself we have volunteer Charlotte Bellis appearing alongside | :25:20. | :25:22. | |
Wissam - a Syrian refugee and Steve Valdez-Symonds | :25:23. | :25:25. | |
from Amnesty international is in the studio. | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
Tell me where you off from and how you arrived in Lesbos. I am from | :25:32. | :25:42. | |
Syria. Like everyone, I arrived here by vote for one year and five months | :25:43. | :25:53. | |
ago. I have nothing yet. -- by boat. Which city were you are and what | :25:54. | :26:06. | |
work conditions like? My city is named Hama. What were the conditions | :26:07. | :26:15. | |
like? So bad. You can imagine a lot. Of course. You have been on Lesbos | :26:16. | :26:21. | |
for nearly a year and a half. Where are you living on Lesbos? What are | :26:22. | :26:27. | |
conditions like for you? The situation here is so bad. Everyone | :26:28. | :26:31. | |
knows that. No one cared about anyone here. We don't have that. | :26:32. | :26:37. | |
People are watching here in the UK and they may not be aware of how bad | :26:38. | :26:45. | |
it is just explain to people. I don't know if I can explain enough. | :26:46. | :26:51. | |
The situation here is so bad. We don't have enough support. The food | :26:52. | :26:56. | |
is not good. Everything here is bad. Also, we need to wait for six | :26:57. | :27:04. | |
months. We cannot go out from this island or do anything. I get | :27:05. | :27:12. | |
nothing. They don't give us language or anything. Where is it that you | :27:13. | :27:25. | |
want to go? For me, I want to go to Canada after London but I cannot, | :27:26. | :27:30. | |
for sure. We can see and hear from the frustration in your voice, how | :27:31. | :27:37. | |
challenging and frustrating this is for you. Charlotte is a volunteer. | :27:38. | :27:42. | |
Are these stories you're hearing daily in and day out? One of the | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
things, I came here in June, what really surprised me, and I am a | :27:48. | :27:50. | |
journalist from London, I thought there would be isolated cases of | :27:51. | :27:58. | |
vulnerability, I might bump into the person who had been tortured but at | :27:59. | :28:05. | |
least 90% of the people I talk to have been tortured, held in prisons, | :28:06. | :28:13. | |
had family neighbours murdered. His other brother is also here and was | :28:14. | :28:21. | |
tortured for three years. He was tortured for a couple of weeks | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
trying to escape from Syria. I don't know how you decide. Everybody has | :28:26. | :28:36. | |
stories. Have you been offered any support within the camp for the | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
trauma that you and your brothers have suffered? Nothing in here. | :28:41. | :28:47. | |
Nothing in. We get support but it is not enough. Wasam's the suffers from | :28:48. | :28:56. | |
severe mental health issues. Hama is staying close to him here, trying to | :28:57. | :29:06. | |
support him. -- Wasam. He has attempted to take his life multiple | :29:07. | :29:14. | |
times in the past year. Essentially, if Wasam was not here, his brother | :29:15. | :29:24. | |
would be affected. Louise quit you have recently been in Lesbos. Is | :29:25. | :29:30. | |
there any support at all available for people like Wasam in these | :29:31. | :29:37. | |
camps? I was there again this week. In theory there is, on paper there | :29:38. | :29:43. | |
is. There are two health organisations in the camp. The | :29:44. | :29:45. | |
reality is the number of people on the island has increased and the | :29:46. | :29:52. | |
capacity has decreased. We have a clinic outside the camp. We are | :29:53. | :29:58. | |
trying to provide health support as well as treating victims of torture | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
and sexual violence. We have a waiting list of over 100 people. The | :30:03. | :30:08. | |
level of trauma is so important. 20% of our mental health patients are | :30:09. | :30:18. | |
victims of torture. Women who come for gynaecological services suffer | :30:19. | :30:26. | |
sexual abuse. We are doing the best we can to meet the demands. Do you | :30:27. | :30:29. | |
think the Greek authorities are doing enough to help people on | :30:30. | :30:33. | |
Lesbos question at them and to be transferred to the mainland. | :30:34. | :30:38. | |
It has to be recognised Europe as a whole isn't doing enough. Europe is | :30:39. | :30:44. | |
basely imposed upon Greece the obligation of essentially managing | :30:45. | :30:48. | |
the deal that European countries struck with Turkey, which is | :30:49. | :30:52. | |
designed to essentially try and send back people who have come to those | :30:53. | :30:56. | |
Greek Islands to Turkey on the ridiculous suggestion that Turkey is | :30:57. | :31:01. | |
safe for them. That has introduced, as it happens, a whole new | :31:02. | :31:06. | |
bureaucratic additional system that Greeks are trying to now manage | :31:07. | :31:10. | |
before people can even get into their asylum system to have their | :31:11. | :31:13. | |
asylum claims dealt with when, as happens in many, many cases, it's | :31:14. | :31:18. | |
determined that no Turkey is not safe for them. Unfortunately, a | :31:19. | :31:21. | |
system in Greece that was already not working long before we had these | :31:22. | :31:28. | |
events in 2015-16 and still carrying on, which is now under enormous | :31:29. | :31:32. | |
pressure and made under increased pressure by this ridiculous deal | :31:33. | :31:35. | |
which is not safe for people and is trapping people, as you see, in | :31:36. | :31:38. | |
hopeless conditions on these Islands. It was the EU who paid | :31:39. | :31:45. | |
Turkey to take these people back and process them effectively because | :31:46. | :31:48. | |
it's a political hot potato in Europe across Europe, the sheer | :31:49. | :31:53. | |
numbers of people that have been arriving and questions over whether | :31:54. | :31:56. | |
they are people who have genuine asylum claims or whether they are | :31:57. | :32:01. | |
economic migrants coming from maybe Africa and other places. What is it | :32:02. | :32:04. | |
you want to see the authorities, whether it's the Greek authorities | :32:05. | :32:09. | |
or wider across Europe do to help people? Let's not forget a country | :32:10. | :32:15. | |
like Uganda has received more than a million people fleeing a conflict in | :32:16. | :32:18. | |
South Sudan in the space of less than a year. Yes, it's struggling, | :32:19. | :32:22. | |
but its borders are still open and it is processing people and is | :32:23. | :32:27. | |
supporting people. Europe is a huge wealthy part of the world with | :32:28. | :32:32. | |
enormous resources. It is dealing with comparatively few people | :32:33. | :32:35. | |
compared to other places elsewhere. We know that many of the people who | :32:36. | :32:41. | |
fled to these Greek Islands are coming from places as just described | :32:42. | :32:44. | |
where their lives are plainly at risk. Thank you all for speaking to | :32:45. | :32:48. | |
us today. If you have any thoughts on this get in touch with us. | :32:49. | :32:53. | |
The parents of a 21-year-old woman who died after taking weight loss | :32:54. | :32:58. | |
pills have told this programme the substances should be banned. | :32:59. | :33:04. | |
Beth Shipsey died in February after taking highly toxic, | :33:05. | :33:07. | |
fat-burning pills that her parents believe she bought online. | :33:08. | :33:09. | |
They'll be with us just after the news. | :33:10. | :33:12. | |
A bad week for President Trump just got a lot worse as his plans to get | :33:13. | :33:17. | |
rid of parts of President Obama's health care reforms | :33:18. | :33:19. | |
are rejected by the Senate - the third time Trump's agenda has | :33:20. | :33:22. | |
And on top of that there's the vicious rivalry | :33:23. | :33:27. | |
We'll be live in the States in about 15 minutes. | :33:28. | :33:45. | |
At least 60 high rice buildings that used insulation and cladding similar | :33:46. | :33:51. | |
to Grenfell have failed a new fire safety test. The tests saw the | :33:52. | :33:54. | |
materials analysed together for the first time. The only buildings | :33:55. | :33:58. | |
identified so far are nine council blocks in Salford in Greater | :33:59. | :34:01. | |
Manchester where the local council is asking for help from central | :34:02. | :34:05. | |
Government to meet the cost ofs replacements. Ministers will publish | :34:06. | :34:09. | |
the full findings from these tests later this morning. | :34:10. | :34:15. | |
Pakistan's Prime Minister has resigned after the country's Supreme | :34:16. | :34:19. | |
Court unanimously ruled that he should be disqualified over | :34:20. | :34:23. | |
corruption allegations. The ruling follows accusations relating to the | :34:24. | :34:28. | |
Panama papers published two years ago in which his three children were | :34:29. | :34:31. | |
implicated. He and his family deny any wrongdoing. | :34:32. | :34:34. | |
40 people have been injured, one seriously, after a commuter | :34:35. | :34:37. | |
At least 18 people have been taken to hospital. | :34:38. | :34:42. | |
Philip Hammond has said there's broad agreement in Cabinet | :34:43. | :34:47. | |
that there should be a transition period of up to three years | :34:48. | :34:50. | |
after Brexit but it should be concluded before the next election | :34:51. | :34:53. | |
The Chancellor said a failure to implement a transition deal | :34:54. | :34:58. | |
would sow chaos for business and that it was in the interests | :34:59. | :35:01. | |
of the EU and Britain to have a transition that allows | :35:02. | :35:04. | |
Donald Trump has suffered a defeat on one of his key campaign pledges | :35:05. | :35:12. | |
A number of republicans, including former president | :35:13. | :35:16. | |
presidential nominee, John McCain, voted against a bill | :35:17. | :35:18. | |
which would have repealed the healthcare law passed by former | :35:19. | :35:20. | |
The bill was rejected in a dramatic, late-night vote by fifty-one | :35:21. | :35:31. | |
The Republican Party's leader in the Senate described | :35:32. | :35:36. | |
England are through to the quarter finals of the Women's European | :35:37. | :35:51. | |
Championship with three wins out of three. | :35:52. | :35:53. | |
The 100% record maintained thanks to a 2-1 win over Portugal. | :35:54. | :35:56. | |
But they've conceded for the first time in the tournament. | :35:57. | :36:00. | |
Scotland just missed out despite a 1-0 win over Spain. | :36:01. | :36:06. | |
Everton have a 1-0 lead after the first leg | :36:07. | :36:09. | |
of their Europa League qualifier against Slovakian side Ruzomberok. | :36:10. | :36:12. | |
Leighton Baines with the winner on what was Wayne Rooney's first | :36:13. | :36:15. | |
Alistair Cook will resume on 82 not out after helping | :36:16. | :36:23. | |
to keep South Africa at bay on a rain-shortened first day | :36:24. | :36:26. | |
And this is the first race of the card at | :36:27. | :36:32. | |
Everyone thought it was won by a horse called Mandarin Princess. | :36:33. | :36:36. | |
But it was a case of mistaken identity. | :36:37. | :36:37. | |
That's actually the two year old's stablemate Millie's Kiss. | :36:38. | :36:40. | |
And the trainer only realised afterwards. | :36:41. | :36:48. | |
How easy is it to buy deadly diet pills? | :36:49. | :36:50. | |
Tragically for one young woman too easy. | :36:51. | :36:55. | |
21-year-old Beth Shipsey had an eating disorder and believed | :36:56. | :36:59. | |
that the toxic drugs would lead to easy weight loss. | :37:00. | :37:03. | |
She passed away in February after taking DNP tablets - | :37:04. | :37:06. | |
which burn fat and can be highly toxic. | :37:07. | :37:09. | |
They are illegal but her parents believe she bought them online. | :37:10. | :37:12. | |
Five months after her daughter's death, her mother Carol says | :37:13. | :37:15. | |
she is shocked at the lack of awareness surrounding the dangers | :37:16. | :37:18. | |
of diet pills and how widely available they are - | :37:19. | :37:21. | |
especially as they have been the cause of several | :37:22. | :37:23. | |
Let's start by showing you a video Beth's 24-year-old brother Tom made | :37:24. | :37:27. | |
# Brother and sister, together we'll make it through. | :37:28. | :37:40. | |
# Someday a spirit will take you and guide you there. | :37:41. | :37:45. | |
# But I've been waiting to be there for you. | :37:46. | :37:54. | |
# And I'll be there just helping you out. | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
# I need a miracle, hurry up now, I need a miracle. | :37:59. | :38:05. | |
# I say your name but you're not around. | :38:06. | :38:16. | |
# I need you, I need you, I need you right now. | :38:17. | :38:19. | |
Watching that moving tribute to Beth Shipsey | :38:20. | :38:23. | |
with me was her mother, Carol Shipsey and Beth's | :38:24. | :38:26. | |
Also here is Tom Quinn, from the UK's leading eating | :38:27. | :38:29. | |
Is that hard to watch, or is it a comfort? A bit of both, I think | :38:30. | :38:45. | |
really. You know, obviously, it's nice to see her again in life but | :38:46. | :38:51. | |
also equally really sad. Tell me a little bit about your daughter. She | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
just, her world was animals really. Yeah, she rescued over 100 animals. | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
Wow, what sort of animals. Everything and anything. One time I | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
had 40 rabbits in the garden, yeah. Did you like that, Doug, happy with | :39:06. | :39:12. | |
that? Not at all, no. Kissed goodbye to the lawn. A Shetland pony in the | :39:13. | :39:17. | |
garden. She travelled the world really and on some of overseas trips | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
that venture ended up not in a holiday but a venture to rescue | :39:23. | :39:27. | |
local animals and she rescued four Greek dogs with our financial | :39:28. | :39:33. | |
support. We have one at home still. She had a huge heart, but clearly | :39:34. | :39:38. | |
she had issues. At what point did you realise weight was a problem for | :39:39. | :39:46. | |
her? Well, unfortunately for Bethany, she had a boyfriend that, | :39:47. | :39:50. | |
there was sexual abuse within the relationship and he got sent to | :39:51. | :39:55. | |
prison last year for raping Bethany and the abuse was over quite a long | :39:56. | :40:00. | |
period of time and Beth's mental health deteriorated during that | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
time. And that's when the eating disorders first manifested itself. | :40:06. | :40:08. | |
Did you know Doug she was using these diet pills? I had no idea at | :40:09. | :40:14. | |
all. I didn't even know what these diet pills were or even existed | :40:15. | :40:21. | |
until literally a couple of days before she died because we were at a | :40:22. | :40:27. | |
review meeting on the mental health ward where they said they found some | :40:28. | :40:30. | |
of of the pills and confiscated them. From her? From her on the | :40:31. | :40:34. | |
ward, yeah, on the mental health ward which we thought was the | :40:35. | :40:39. | |
entirety of the pills, we didn't realise actually she had stashed | :40:40. | :40:45. | |
more in her bedroom at home. And DNP is illegal and highly dangerous. It | :40:46. | :40:52. | |
is. I mean, going back, I think it's important for me to say that Beth | :40:53. | :40:56. | |
was in and hospital frequently, she came home for home leave often to | :40:57. | :41:00. | |
attend to the animals. A few weeks before I had found a pack of pills | :41:01. | :41:06. | |
in her bedroom and I did address it with her and say what are these | :41:07. | :41:11. | |
pills? She said, they're just herbal diet pills. I had no reason to | :41:12. | :41:16. | |
believe they were just herbal diet pills, because we have other | :41:17. | :41:19. | |
daughters and they had bought diet pills from a health shop which were | :41:20. | :41:26. | |
herbal, so, and she did say at that point she purchased him for somebody | :41:27. | :41:29. | |
she met on the internet and bought them on the internet and she had | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
taken them for a week and felt unwell taking them and she wasn't | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
going to bother any way and was going to throw them away, dispose of | :41:39. | :41:41. | |
them down the toilet as something like that, we had no reason to | :41:42. | :41:47. | |
believe that she hadn't done that until my husband said we went to the | :41:48. | :41:52. | |
meeting the day before she died on the mental health ward where they | :41:53. | :41:56. | |
disclosed she had found the pills in her possession the day before. What | :41:57. | :42:02. | |
happened on the day she died? Well, she came home for a home visit to | :42:03. | :42:06. | |
tend to the animals, of which, I mean, at that point we still had 60 | :42:07. | :42:11. | |
animals at home. We have got a shed and an outdoor enclosure and in the | :42:12. | :42:18. | |
shed we have many little furies and Doug brought her home about 3pm that | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
afternoon, I was actually at work and set up the shed, the Hoover and | :42:23. | :42:26. | |
the steamer and everything like you do, made her a cup of tea and went | :42:27. | :42:30. | |
off to work and our son Thomas was in the house at the time but in a | :42:31. | :42:34. | |
different room and that sort of like normal practice, you would have a | :42:35. | :42:38. | |
drink, cup of tea, catch up on TV and then tend to animals before | :42:39. | :42:42. | |
going back to the ward. But on that particular day what was different | :42:43. | :42:48. | |
was our son was about to go to work and the doorbell rang and he was | :42:49. | :42:55. | |
confronted by two paramedics and Bethany had taken some pills, | :42:56. | :43:02. | |
spontaneously, and contacted somebody on Facebook who alerted the | :43:03. | :43:06. | |
emergency services because they were concerned what she had taken. And | :43:07. | :43:10. | |
then she obviously went into hospital. Within an hour of taking | :43:11. | :43:15. | |
the pills. And died soon after? She died, she was in the A department, | :43:16. | :43:19. | |
it was approximately three-and-a-half to four hours | :43:20. | :43:25. | |
before she had a cardiac arrest and obviously she died that night, yeah. | :43:26. | :43:29. | |
I want to bring Tom in to talk about diet pills. How widely available are | :43:30. | :43:34. | |
they and there is a huge range of them. There are a huge range, some | :43:35. | :43:38. | |
are illegal, some are not. They're all potentially very, very Danning | :43:39. | :43:43. | |
rows. Unfortunately, we hear very frequently from people contacting | :43:44. | :43:47. | |
our helpline that they are struggling with diet pills, I think | :43:48. | :43:50. | |
the fact that individuals are prepared to take pills that could be | :43:51. | :43:56. | |
extremely dangerous shows how serious eating disorders are, what | :43:57. | :43:59. | |
we say to people worried about themselves or a family member is get | :44:00. | :44:05. | |
help quickly, before the illness gets too serious. You didn't know | :44:06. | :44:09. | |
she was using these diet pills as you said, you also found out that | :44:10. | :44:14. | |
she was in chat rooms where people were encouraging her. That's right. | :44:15. | :44:20. | |
I mean, obviously social media, that's the main way of communicating | :44:21. | :44:26. | |
these days, particularly with younger people, and I knew that she | :44:27. | :44:31. | |
chatted to people online but it was only after her death that - we were | :44:32. | :44:37. | |
both horrified to learn of what extent those conversations went in | :44:38. | :44:43. | |
encouraging her to actually buy DNP and also not only that, to - she was | :44:44. | :44:50. | |
taking laxatives and I didn't know at the time but she was also taking | :44:51. | :44:59. | |
Sudofed a lot too, apparently to lose weight and just, you know, | :45:00. | :45:06. | |
reinforced Bethany's sort of negativity around her own body image | :45:07. | :45:10. | |
and was an implement really to nournl her to continue on that path | :45:11. | :45:14. | |
-- encourage her to continue on that path to self-destruct really. Do you | :45:15. | :45:16. | |
hear that a lot at the charity? We do. This is fundamentally a | :45:17. | :45:28. | |
serious mental illness. The owners can take over if it is left to | :45:29. | :45:34. | |
route. It is important that family members and friends are able to spot | :45:35. | :45:38. | |
some of the early signs that might appear before weight change for that | :45:39. | :45:43. | |
they might be changes of mood, perhaps becoming socially withdrawn. | :45:44. | :45:48. | |
Acting strangely around mealtimes, perhaps over exercising. It is | :45:49. | :45:52. | |
important we are all aware of some of the early signs we can make sure | :45:53. | :45:56. | |
people get the help they need. People watching probably be amazed | :45:57. | :46:05. | |
that legal -- illegal pills are so easy for someone to buy online. | :46:06. | :46:10. | |
People are prosecuted for this but we would support anything that can | :46:11. | :46:14. | |
be done to stop people being able to get hold of these pills and would | :46:15. | :46:19. | |
want to speak to anyone out there who is struggling with an eating | :46:20. | :46:24. | |
disorder and considering taking another harmful diet pill. Please | :46:25. | :46:29. | |
think again. The risks really are not worth it. What do you want to | :46:30. | :46:34. | |
see happening? Do you think there needs to be tighter regulation. | :46:35. | :46:38. | |
People are still managing to get hold of them, like best. I deal with | :46:39. | :46:45. | |
some chemicals. There are certain systems in place for registering | :46:46. | :46:50. | |
chemicals and some of the more toxic chemicals would tend to be licensed. | :46:51. | :46:57. | |
I do not see this as a material that could be classified, like legal mark | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
optics, etc, because then that would be legal to buy. If there were | :47:02. | :47:05. | |
licensing controls put on the substance itself, at least it would | :47:06. | :47:17. | |
restrict the ability for these unscrupulous people who put these | :47:18. | :47:20. | |
into Capitals and sell on the internet it would restrict their | :47:21. | :47:24. | |
ability to obtain this material. If it were licensed, you would have to | :47:25. | :47:29. | |
apply for a licence, to produce the material can sell it, handle it, for | :47:30. | :47:35. | |
someone to buy it and use it. I know you are a nurse, do you think the | :47:36. | :47:39. | |
medical profession as a whole knows enough about the diet pills and the | :47:40. | :47:50. | |
dangers of them? Not at all. As has already been discussed, they are | :47:51. | :47:51. | |
widely used. Our particular experience with our daughter is the | :47:52. | :47:57. | |
fact that people were not aware of the severity of the toxic effects of | :47:58. | :48:04. | |
that particular drug. That is shocking really. I do feel there | :48:05. | :48:10. | |
needs to be improved communication and that information is disseminated | :48:11. | :48:14. | |
around within the medical profession. So, if, unfortunately, | :48:15. | :48:20. | |
the person arrives in an emergency department with a more proactive in | :48:21. | :48:24. | |
their response. If any parents are watching this he might have concerns | :48:25. | :48:28. | |
about their son or daughter using diet pills, what would you say to | :48:29. | :48:35. | |
them? I think you need to take it seriously is very easy with young | :48:36. | :48:42. | |
people with the complexities of being a young person, to dismiss any | :48:43. | :48:47. | |
concerns about their weight and see it as a trivial issue. It is about | :48:48. | :48:54. | |
how you go about challenging a young person on it? It is difficult. | :48:55. | :49:00. | |
Bethany felt she was not listened to. As I say, the unhealthy | :49:01. | :49:06. | |
relationship with food, it was about two years. Like you say, excessive | :49:07. | :49:19. | |
exercise. She was a very slim girl. It is not about BMI, it is about the | :49:20. | :49:22. | |
unhealthy relationship with food. Many would say she looked OK, | :49:23. | :49:29. | |
whatever that implies they only see eating disorders in people who are | :49:30. | :49:33. | |
severely underweight or people who are equally overweight. It is not | :49:34. | :49:41. | |
about BMI, it is about that relationship with food. Getting | :49:42. | :49:45. | |
support with a recognised group of people who can really support you | :49:46. | :49:50. | |
and give advice on what you can do if you are concerned. Thank you for | :49:51. | :49:54. | |
coming in. Is Venezuela heading | :49:55. | :49:55. | |
for a civil war? After months of unrest, | :49:56. | :49:58. | |
the Government says it will ban protests that could disturb | :49:59. | :50:01. | |
or affect Sunday's controversial election | :50:02. | :50:02. | |
for a new constituent Assembly. This time last week | :50:03. | :50:06. | |
Sean Spicer resigned as White House's press secretary - | :50:07. | :50:09. | |
bringing an end to a chaotic six months as the public face | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
of Donald Trump's administration. However, over the last seven days | :50:14. | :50:22. | |
the controversy has continued. On Wednesday, President Trump | :50:23. | :50:24. | |
announced a ban on transgender people serving in the US military | :50:25. | :50:30. | |
but now military officials say that In the last few hours, | :50:31. | :50:33. | |
the US Senate has rejected plans to repeal President Obama's | :50:34. | :50:37. | |
healthcare reforms - delivering a major blow | :50:38. | :50:38. | |
to President Trump. His new communications director | :50:39. | :50:48. | |
Anthony Scaramucci has launched a strongly-worded attack | :50:49. | :50:51. | |
on the White House chief Well I put out a tweet they are all | :50:52. | :51:15. | |
making the assumption because journalists know who the leakers | :51:16. | :51:22. | |
are. If he wants to explain here is not a bleaker, let him do that. | :51:23. | :51:27. | |
But President Trump supporters argue he's more popular than ever. | :51:28. | :51:29. | |
Sean Spicer's replacement - Sarah Sanders - has even taken some | :51:30. | :51:32. | |
time out of a press conference to read a letter from | :51:33. | :51:35. | |
a nine-year-boy called Dylan, who wanted to defend the American | :51:36. | :51:37. | |
To remind us a little more often about some of the forgotten men, | :51:38. | :51:41. | |
women and children that we're here to serve and that | :51:42. | :51:43. | |
We are going to start the White House briefing | :51:44. | :51:52. | |
every once in awhile with a letter or an e-mail | :51:53. | :51:54. | |
that we may receive from some of those individuals. | :51:55. | :51:56. | |
To kick it off with that process, I would like to read you a letter | :51:57. | :52:00. | |
"My name is Dylan Harbin, but everyone calls me Pickle. | :52:01. | :52:03. | |
I am nine years old and you're my favourite president. | :52:04. | :52:06. | |
I like you so much that I had a birthday about you. | :52:07. | :52:09. | |
Then Dylan goes on to ask a few questions. | :52:10. | :52:13. | |
Dylan, President Trump is 71 years old. | :52:14. | :52:16. | |
The White House is 168 feet long, it is 70 feet tall on the south | :52:17. | :52:23. | |
side, it is 60' 4" on the north and it takes 300 gallons | :52:24. | :52:26. | |
of white paint to cover the exterior of the White House residence. | :52:27. | :52:29. | |
It has 132 rooms and approximately 55,000 square feet. | :52:30. | :52:34. | |
Dylan, I am not sure, but I know it's a lot! | :52:35. | :52:41. | |
"I don't know why people don't like you." | :52:42. | :52:44. | |
"You seem really nice, can we be friends?" | :52:45. | :52:48. | |
I am happy to say that I directly spoke to the President, Dylan, | :52:49. | :52:52. | |
he would be more than happy to be your friend. | :52:53. | :52:54. | |
"My picture is in here, so if you can, see me and say hello." | :52:55. | :52:57. | |
Dylan, I hope you're watching because the President personally | :52:58. | :53:00. | |
Dylan, thanks for writing to the President, and if you | :53:01. | :53:07. | |
are ever in Washington, DC, I hope you will stop by and let | :53:08. | :53:10. | |
We can speak now to Steve Gruber, a talk radio host and Trump | :53:11. | :53:26. | |
supporter in Michigan, and Alana Horowitz Satlin, | :53:27. | :53:28. | |
assignment editor at the Huffington Post. | :53:29. | :53:30. | |
Do you think it has been a good week for President Trump? A lot going on | :53:31. | :53:42. | |
as always. It has been a mixed week for the president. He has some | :53:43. | :53:50. | |
positive news. I think Sarah Huckabee Sanders is a fine | :53:51. | :53:55. | |
replacement. Sean Spicer was never well matched to that job. From day | :53:56. | :54:00. | |
one when he came out of government, a big turmoil with the press. He got | :54:01. | :54:06. | |
into an argument with the press. The podium was too tall. He looked like | :54:07. | :54:11. | |
a short, angry man. He never really recovered. Sarah Huckabee Sanders | :54:12. | :54:18. | |
has credibility. She is unflappable and has some humour. She is direct | :54:19. | :54:23. | |
and has the President's back for that she has been rock solid. A | :54:24. | :54:28. | |
mixed week for the president. He injects himself into the | :54:29. | :54:32. | |
conversation like he did with the transgendered tweets. Suddenly it | :54:33. | :54:37. | |
takes the forefront for a moment until the Senate Democrats failed to | :54:38. | :54:42. | |
pass the Obamacare legislation. For journalists like myself and the | :54:43. | :54:47. | |
youth, on the side of the pond, it is busy all the time with Donald | :54:48. | :54:51. | |
Trump and his team in the White House. A mixed week. You look at the | :54:52. | :54:57. | |
tweets from President Trump. During the presidential election, he was | :54:58. | :55:02. | |
flying the flag for LGBT rights. He said if you are a member of the LGBT | :55:03. | :55:07. | |
community, vote for me. Hillary Clinton will not look after you, I | :55:08. | :55:12. | |
will. Suddenly he is saying no big complete ban of any transgendered | :55:13. | :55:17. | |
people within the US military. Like I said, it was a surprisingly by the | :55:18. | :55:23. | |
president. The Defence Secretary was out of the loop at the moment, not | :55:24. | :55:29. | |
available to discuss. He had asked for six months to discuss it. As | :55:30. | :55:34. | |
these things go, as you well know, it will take a bit of time. We now | :55:35. | :55:40. | |
know what the president thinks on this one specific issue when it | :55:41. | :55:44. | |
comes to transgendered people serving in the military. Steve says | :55:45. | :55:47. | |
it has been a good week. Do you think it has been a good week? I | :55:48. | :55:53. | |
would agree with President Trump. I think Sarah Sanders is miles ahead | :55:54. | :55:57. | |
of Sean Spicer that she is articulate and charming. She is not | :55:58. | :56:04. | |
brash. Where Spicer failed, I think sky meet she is failing in a | :56:05. | :56:17. | |
different way? -- Scaramucci. Whether he is successful or not, he | :56:18. | :56:22. | |
tried to take the views of Donald Trump and said he was not softening | :56:23. | :56:31. | |
things he said. For better or worse, I agree they match the | :56:32. | :56:39. | |
administration and the job better. He is not coming off well with the | :56:40. | :56:44. | |
public. You read the article from the New Yorker and he is supposed to | :56:45. | :56:49. | |
be the communications director. Frankly he is embarrassing the | :56:50. | :56:52. | |
president by slagging off his chief of staff. Not just slagging off. | :56:53. | :57:02. | |
There was lots of swearing going on, wanting to fire him. It was | :57:03. | :57:06. | |
unbelievable. Here is the thing. People in Wisconsin just learned | :57:07. | :57:14. | |
that Fox Khan will build iPads and iPhones in the centre of Wisconsin. | :57:15. | :57:18. | |
They do not read the New Yorker. Even people in Michigan where he won | :57:19. | :57:28. | |
by 10,000 votes, or Pennsylvania. These are issues. People in | :57:29. | :57:31. | |
Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan do not care. They care about jobs. | :57:32. | :57:40. | |
They care about the 8000 new jobs. Donald Trump has eliminated many | :57:41. | :57:47. | |
regulations so far. People who are retired teachers and firefighters | :57:48. | :57:50. | |
who had investments on Wall Street are very happy right now. They are | :57:51. | :57:56. | |
also very happy that their houses are at the best prices they had been | :57:57. | :58:01. | |
in 15 years. The give me for interrupting. You believe that Cork | :58:02. | :58:06. | |
Donald Trump 's supporters, as long as the economy is good and jobs are | :58:07. | :58:09. | |
coming, the president can say what he likes and his staff can say what | :58:10. | :58:13. | |
they like because that is the elite having a chat and they are not | :58:14. | :58:19. | |
interested. With all the Russia talks, people turn off. It becomes | :58:20. | :58:24. | |
noise. They go to sleep and they move on. They think he is colourful | :58:25. | :58:29. | |
and interesting. Sarah is better than Sean and people do not care. I | :58:30. | :58:35. | |
can agree that people do not care about the power centric stuff. You | :58:36. | :58:43. | |
have to admit. It is not true people do not care about Russia. People are | :58:44. | :58:48. | |
concerned that also concerned about health care. People in Wisconsin are | :58:49. | :58:52. | |
even supporters of Donald Trump, they are very concerned. His attempt | :58:53. | :58:58. | |
to make about the care better and whatever, that fail. -- Obamacare or | :58:59. | :59:14. | |
whatever, that fail. Millions of people would have lost their health | :59:15. | :59:18. | |
insurance. Millions of people are going to lose their health care | :59:19. | :59:25. | |
because Scaramucci will collapse. John McCain said that it will fail. | :59:26. | :59:37. | |
-- because Obamacare will collapse. The Republicans have quite a long | :59:38. | :59:42. | |
time to sort out and have not managed to do it. The Republicans | :59:43. | :59:46. | |
have failed. They ought to be ashamed of themselves. They decided | :59:47. | :59:53. | |
to lie to the people a couple of days ago. Thank you for speaking to | :59:54. | :00:01. | |
us from Michigan. Thank you for coming in. | :00:02. | :00:10. | |
Low pressure in charge of things. Today big showers out there. Here is | :00:11. | :00:18. | |
Cumbria at the moment, heavy downpours, rainbows pictured there. | :00:19. | :00:22. | |
Variable amounts of cloud, there is some sunshine further south through | :00:23. | :00:25. | |
the Midlands, up towards Lincolnshire, for instance. For many | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
of us a fairly unsettled day with low pressure sitting out to the | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
north-west of the UK. Tightly spaced isobars too, an indication it will | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
be breezy today, that breeze coming in from the south-west and importing | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
some heavy showers. For much of Northern Ireland, Scotland and | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
northern England heavy showers this morning. Also more cloud and | :00:45. | :00:50. | |
outbreaks of rain working into the south-west of England and Wales this | :00:51. | :00:55. | |
afternoon. For Scotland and Northern Ireland sunny spells and scattered | :00:56. | :00:58. | |
showers, could be thunder. We are likely to see a dryer spell of | :00:59. | :01:01. | |
weather across northern England for a time. Heavy rain heading in across | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
parts of Wales, particularly heavy over the hills and around the | :01:05. | :01:08. | |
coasts. For the south-west of England it's looking damp and breezy | :01:09. | :01:12. | |
through the afternoon. Mostly dry further towards the south-east of | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
England and East Anglia but we are going to keep that cloud and through | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
this evening the rain in the west works further north and east across | :01:20. | :01:24. | |
Wales and much of England too. Brisk winds, as well. The worst of that | :01:25. | :01:28. | |
wet weather clears the south-east by the early hours of Saturday. Then | :01:29. | :01:32. | |
still showers in the far north-west but many of us start the day on | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
Saturday on a reasonably dry and bright note. We still have the | :01:37. | :01:39. | |
unsettled theme. There is that weather front to the south-east that | :01:40. | :01:44. | |
looks like it clears at least for a time and low pressure again to the | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
north-west then. Blustery showers across north western parts of | :01:49. | :01:50. | |
Scotland and Northern Ireland. England and Wales having a lot of | :01:51. | :01:53. | |
dry weather. But you will notice this area of rain likely to creep in | :01:54. | :01:57. | |
from the English channel affecting southern counties of England and | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
perhaps up to East Anglia during the afternoon. Temperatures around 18-22 | :02:02. | :02:07. | |
or so. Sunday, another day of sunshine and showers. Some of the | :02:08. | :02:10. | |
showers initially in the north and west, could be heavy, potentially | :02:11. | :02:15. | |
thundery and the showers will drift further eastwards through the day. | :02:16. | :02:18. | |
The far south-east probably avoiding them on Sunday. To summarise the | :02:19. | :02:23. | |
weekend, rather cool and breezy and a mix of sunnier dryer spells of | :02:24. | :02:27. | |
weather and also plenty of showers around too. You can check the latest | :02:28. | :02:29. | |
forecast on our website. Sixty tower blocks fail | :02:30. | :02:38. | |
new fire safety test - including 9 buildings owned | :02:39. | :02:39. | |
by Salford council We'll be speaking to a fire safety expert | :02:40. | :02:46. | |
in just a moment. New research shows drink ago few | :02:47. | :02:54. | |
times a week reduces the risk of diabetes. Wine appears to be | :02:55. | :02:59. | |
particularly beneficial but critics say consuming alcohol does | :03:00. | :02:59. | |
contribute to other diseases. Is Venezuela heading | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
for civil war? Anti-government protesters erect | :03:05. | :03:05. | |
barriers and start fires in the capital ahead | :03:06. | :03:08. | |
of a controversial vote to rewrite Here is the news in the newsroom | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
with Ben. More materials were analysed | :03:15. | :03:43. | |
together for the first time some of the far, nine of the buildings which | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
failed have been identified. They're in Salford in Greater Manchester | :03:48. | :03:50. | |
where the local council is asking for help from central Government to | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
meet the cost of replacements. Ministers will publish the full test | :03:55. | :03:57. | |
findings later While those touched by Grenfell wait | :03:58. | :03:58. | |
for a full picture of how this fire spread, other residents | :03:59. | :04:18. | |
in other towers are nervous, These blocks in Salford, | :04:19. | :04:19. | |
nine of them, are among the 60 across England we understand will be | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
declared a risk after failing The thought of you not being safe | :04:24. | :04:26. | |
when you're sleeping in bed of a night-time, thinking | :04:27. | :04:30. | |
that that's not safe, I don't care how much money it | :04:31. | :04:32. | |
cost - it's not money, I think we're sitting on a tinderbox | :04:33. | :04:39. | |
when you look at all the flats. Some of the cladding | :04:40. | :04:42. | |
had already come down. In the first round of tests, | :04:43. | :04:44. | |
panels from every building failed. After criticism that wasn't | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
realistic, experts have now combined cladding and the installation fitted | :04:49. | :04:50. | |
behind it to show which materials are dangerous when they're put | :04:51. | :04:53. | |
together, like they were on Grenfell Yesterday, the police said | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
there were reasonable grounds to suspect corporate manslaughter | :04:58. | :05:04. | |
may have been committed by the council or the tenant | :05:05. | :05:06. | |
management organisation. More than six weeks since Grenfell | :05:07. | :05:12. | |
burned, the investigation is finding its focus | :05:13. | :05:14. | |
while the reverberations reach right after the country's Supreme Court | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
unanimously ruled that he should be disqualified over | :05:18. | :05:39. | |
corruption allegations. The ruling follows accusations | :05:40. | :05:40. | |
relating to the Panama Papers published two years ago, | :05:41. | :05:42. | |
in which Mr Sharif's three He and his family | :05:43. | :05:45. | |
deny any wrongdoing. The Chancellor said on the first day | :05:46. | :06:01. | |
after leaving the block in March 2019 that many things will look | :06:02. | :06:04. | |
similar and that it was in the interests of the EU and Britain to | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
have a transition that allows the economies to adjust. | :06:09. | :06:12. | |
Our job as we leave the European Union is to make sure that we can do | :06:13. | :06:18. | |
this in a way that is smooth without disruption to people's everyday | :06:19. | :06:21. | |
lives, without disrupting the supply chains of businesses that run across | :06:22. | :06:27. | |
our borders and to then go through a process of moving from the current | :06:28. | :06:32. | |
arrangements with the EU to our new future long-term arrangements with | :06:33. | :06:35. | |
the EU and to do that in a smoother way as possible. | :06:36. | :06:38. | |
40 people have been injured - one seriously - after a commuter | :06:39. | :06:41. | |
At least 18 people have been taken to hospital. | :06:42. | :06:57. | |
Four men have been arrested after they tried to make | :06:58. | :06:59. | |
an explosive device at Cardiff prison. | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
It came to light when a prison worker contacted a welsh | :07:03. | :07:08. | |
Assembly Member, Bethan Jenkins with concerns about staffing. | :07:09. | :07:16. | |
We were talking earlier to Carol and Doug Shipsey about their daughter. | :07:17. | :07:23. | |
Lots of you getting in touch about that this morning. A tweet from | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
India, a moving segment on eating disorders and Beth's life. I | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
definitely think diet pills should be be banned. They are dangerous, | :07:31. | :07:35. | |
not only physically, a tweet from Joe says of course diet pills should | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
be banned. Completely unnecessary. And most of us don't know there | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
isn't any proper advice out there so we don't know what to do. E-mail | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
from Clare, I took pills from the internet and became depressed I | :07:48. | :07:49. | |
wanted to die. They're horrible things. Keep your contributions | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
coming throughout the morning. If you do text remember you will be | :07:55. | :07:57. | |
charged at the standard network rate. | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
Let's speak to Huw now for all the sport. Good morning. | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
England's women will have to beat a team they haven't since 1974 | :08:07. | :08:09. | |
to reach the semi finals of the European Championships. | :08:10. | :08:11. | |
They play France after making the last 8 in the Netherlands | :08:12. | :08:14. | |
The Lionesses maintained their 100% record and finished top | :08:15. | :08:19. | |
of their group thanks to a 2-1 win over Portugal. | :08:20. | :08:22. | |
Toni Duggan and Nikita Parris with the goals. | :08:23. | :08:24. | |
However, France have knocked them out of their last | :08:25. | :08:26. | |
England's win meant that Scotland - in the same group - | :08:27. | :08:34. | |
needed to beat Spain by two clear goals. | :08:35. | :08:36. | |
Caroline Weir got some help from the Spanish goalkeeper | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
to put her side ahead but Scotland just couldn't find that crucial | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
second goal and exit their first major tournament at the group stage. | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
In the Europa League qualifiers, Aberdeen hold a 2-1 lead over Cyprus | :08:49. | :08:51. | |
side, Apollon Limassol, after the first leg. | :08:52. | :08:54. | |
And Everton's Wayne Rooney received a hero's welcome in his first | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
competitive game back at the club last night. | :08:59. | :09:01. | |
He played the full 90 minutes at Goodison Park | :09:02. | :09:03. | |
It was a scrappy game, settled only by Leighton Baines' | :09:04. | :09:10. | |
The second leg takes place next Thursday. | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
Alistair Cook will resume on 82 not out after helping | :09:15. | :09:18. | |
to keep South Africa at bay on a rain-shortened first day | :09:19. | :09:20. | |
Despite the interruptions it was an eventful opening | :09:21. | :09:29. | |
Joe Root was one of the wickets to fall. | :09:30. | :09:32. | |
He was caught behind brilliantly by Quinton de Kock for 29. | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
While one of three England debutants, David Malan, | :09:36. | :09:37. | |
But former captain Cook was at his gutsy best. | :09:38. | :09:46. | |
First practice is under way at the Hungarian Grand Prix. | :09:47. | :10:02. | |
Hamilton comes into the weekend just one | :10:03. | :10:04. | |
point behind Sebastian Vettel in the drivers' standings having won | :10:05. | :10:06. | |
The build-up to this weekend's race has been | :10:07. | :10:17. | |
dominated by drivers' comments concerning the new protective halo | :10:18. | :10:23. | |
Happy to implement any head protections for next year, if FAI | :10:24. | :10:31. | |
study and develop the halo and this is the most effective way to protect | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
the head of the drivers, it's more than welcome, in my opinion. I don't | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
like it. But of course at the end of the day you have to respect the | :10:40. | :10:46. | |
decision of the FAI, but I think since we introduced virtual safety | :10:47. | :10:49. | |
car that reduced the risk when you are speeding under the yellow flag | :10:50. | :10:55. | |
in the race and then also with the wheel, strong at the moment, I don't | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
think you will lose a wheel easily and when there are parts flying | :11:00. | :11:02. | |
around from the car it's not really going to protect you. So, I don't | :11:03. | :11:08. | |
really understand why we should need it. | :11:09. | :11:15. | |
Now why all the long at Great Yarmouth Races yesterday? | :11:16. | :11:18. | |
Well, the winner of the first, Mandarin Princess, turned out to be | :11:19. | :11:21. | |
a different horse after they did a routine microchip test | :11:22. | :11:23. | |
Everyone thought this was Mandarin Princess, in blue, | :11:24. | :11:26. | |
But it was actually her stable-mate, Millie's Kiss. | :11:27. | :11:29. | |
Both were trained by Charlie McBride, | :11:30. | :11:31. | |
The result stood for betting purposes. | :11:32. | :11:51. | |
The test is seen as more thorough as more materials were analysed | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
together for the first time. Our reporter Jim Reed has been covering | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
the Grenfell tire from the first day. He is with us now. Exactly do | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
the tests show us? We are still waiting for full details of these | :12:05. | :12:08. | |
test results from the Government this morning, expected it later this | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
morning. Let's talk you through what we are talking about here. If you | :12:12. | :12:14. | |
look at the outside of Grenfell tower you get an idea of two things | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
in particular to look out for, one are the cladding panels, you can see | :12:19. | :12:21. | |
them on the bottom right of the screen. We have already had tests on | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
those panels, they're metal, thin, about half a centimetre thick. We | :12:27. | :12:29. | |
know those have failed fire safety tests. Some people in local | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
Government, some in the construction industry say you have to go further | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
and do a more comprehensive test on everything on the outside of the | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
building and in particular one crucial things, which is this other | :12:43. | :12:45. | |
area in the top left, that's the insulation that's behind the | :12:46. | :12:49. | |
cladding. They say you have to test both these things together and the | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
first results we are seeing of those today in particular. We are going to | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
see more results throughout the day and more information. This is how we | :12:59. | :13:01. | |
understand it at the moment. If you look at the tests they're doing, we | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
have video pictures here. They're testing not just the chemical | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
make-up of the panels but how the whole system performs in a fire. | :13:10. | :13:13. | |
They set a fire underneath it and see how it responds to a serious | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
fire. The Government have ordered six of these tests for different | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
combinations of that cladding panel on the outside and the insulation on | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
the inside. The first of those tests has failed. That's the same | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
combination of cladding and insulation we believe they used on | :13:31. | :13:33. | |
Grenfell tower and importantly we think there are 60 other buildings | :13:34. | :13:36. | |
in England that have the same combination. Presumably they would | :13:37. | :13:39. | |
have failed, as well. The next question is where are the buildings? | :13:40. | :13:42. | |
That's hopefully what we are going to find out later. We don't know for | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
sure. Only one council is affected, that's nine blocks in Salford. The | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
other 51 of those 60 we don't know where they are. We think they're | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
going to be private landlords or properties owned by housing | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
associations as opposed to councils. Yesterday more news about the police | :14:00. | :14:02. | |
investigation. That's right. This is really important. Late yesterday | :14:03. | :14:06. | |
afternoon police now say there is reasonable grounds to suspect corps | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
manslaughter offences, they've written to the council and the TMO, | :14:11. | :14:16. | |
the tenant management organisation -- corporate manslaughter. They've | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
written to both of those saying they suspect there is grounds for | :14:21. | :14:23. | |
offences. Corporate manslaughter is a new offence. At least this form of | :14:24. | :14:30. | |
it. It was only introduced in 2008. It's a criminal offence for an | :14:31. | :14:33. | |
organisation to cause death by negligence. It's fairly difficult to | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
prove. This is not individuals involved, this is organisations | :14:39. | :14:41. | |
involved. We think senior executives from both the council and from the | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
TMO are likely to be interviewed under caution about this offence. It | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
could lead to large fines further down the road and it doesn't mean | :14:50. | :14:55. | |
they couldn't also pursue individual manslaughter charges against people | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
who may be responsible for this. We don't know that yet. We only know | :14:59. | :15:01. | |
about corporate manslaughter offences the police have been | :15:02. | :15:07. | |
talking about. Thank you. We can speak now to Arnold, a | :15:08. | :15:14. | |
chartered surveyor and member of the association for specialist fire | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
protection. First of all, are you surprised by what we learned so far? | :15:19. | :15:24. | |
I'm not surprised. These blooms have been predicted since the early 80s. | :15:25. | :15:33. | |
I was also talking about the fire risk and the risk of many people | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
dying due to this form of cladding. Since the early 80s? Yes. Why are we | :15:40. | :15:45. | |
in this position today? You will have to ask the advisers to | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
government, the people responsible for building regulations, which | :15:51. | :15:53. | |
leaves a complete and utter mess as far as my reading of the actual | :15:54. | :16:00. | |
rules. Nothing has been done that is wrong. We are not just talking here | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
about public buildings. We're not just talking about tower blocks in | :16:07. | :16:11. | |
schools and hospitals, this goes way beyond that. It applies to all sorts | :16:12. | :16:19. | |
of buildings. Not just this cladding for that there are many issues with | :16:20. | :16:22. | |
fire safety and fire protection in buildings. Give us an example. | :16:23. | :16:30. | |
Missing fire protection, a block in south-east London. Was looking at a | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
leak in the roof. It was a stud wall and there was no fire protection. | :16:36. | :16:40. | |
The power sockets were just plastic. I took one out and I could see next | :16:41. | :16:47. | |
door. When we stripped and the single skim wall, the cavity wall | :16:48. | :16:51. | |
with the external wall, I could see all the way down the whole length of | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
the building stop one sheet of plasterboard each side. The party | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
wall had two sheets of plasterboard. There was no fire protection on a | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
block of buildings. This is widespread. We have problems with | :17:07. | :17:16. | |
timber frame. That fire that occurred in the cavity was not | :17:17. | :17:23. | |
mentioned. They did a fire test. It passed the one-hour fire test but it | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
did not pass that there was fire in the cavity. That fire in the cavity | :17:29. | :17:33. | |
is not in the Government report. Why not? Is this about council is trying | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
to save money because they have less money or is it simply about the | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
regulations not being stringent enough? The regulations are not | :17:45. | :17:50. | |
stringent enough. Anybody will try to get value for money. It is | :17:51. | :17:57. | |
developments and private owners. If a product passes building control | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
requirements from the building regulations, you will use it. If you | :18:02. | :18:10. | |
go to the BBA certificates, both PE and FC and interestingly the one for | :18:11. | :18:14. | |
FES signed off by Sir Ken Knights who is on the panel. They fail the | :18:15. | :18:21. | |
test in what they are now doing. It has been passed as fit for use on | :18:22. | :18:27. | |
high-rise buildings can even by Sir Ken Knight. Thank you very much. In | :18:28. | :18:29. | |
to us. The weekend is on the way, | :18:30. | :18:32. | |
but could a drink of wine be just what the doctor | :18:33. | :18:35. | |
ordered?New research shows that drinking alcohol a few times a week | :18:36. | :18:38. | |
reduces the risk of diabetes. We'll speak to the lead scientist | :18:39. | :18:41. | |
involved in that research and to the UK's leading | :18:42. | :18:43. | |
diabetes charity. Venezuela will go to the polls this | :18:44. | :18:49. | |
Sunday in one of the most controversial elections | :18:50. | :18:52. | |
in the country's history. Some think the small South American | :18:53. | :18:54. | |
nation is on the verge of civil war with droves of its 30 million strong | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
population taking to the streets for four months in protest of widespread | :18:59. | :19:01. | |
food and medicine shortages. They charge their President Nicholas | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
Maduro with failing to manage the country's economy effectively, | :19:07. | :19:09. | |
Some say he's turning the country into a dictatorship | :19:10. | :19:12. | |
after imprisoning political opponents and killing | :19:13. | :19:16. | |
over 100 protestors. In a moment we'll talk to some | :19:17. | :19:20. | |
Venezuelan's living in the UK but first lets speak with BBC | :19:21. | :19:22. | |
Journalist Vladimir Hernandez who has spent time with protestors | :19:23. | :19:28. | |
in Venezuela's capital Caracas. Take us right back to basics. Where | :19:29. | :19:43. | |
have the problems come from what other problems? The economy, it has | :19:44. | :19:47. | |
the highest inflation in the world a lot of people are struggling to get | :19:48. | :19:51. | |
five to buy food and medicines. 80% of the population said in a poll | :19:52. | :19:56. | |
there were only eating twice a day. This is a country with one of the | :19:57. | :20:00. | |
highest oil reserves in the world. The Government, earlier this year, | :20:01. | :20:04. | |
tried to disband the national assembly or Congress, which is led | :20:05. | :20:10. | |
by the opposition. The opposition it was the last remaining area of | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
political dissent. That ticked off three months or more of protests | :20:15. | :20:17. | |
from today. This is a desperate situation. There was a video on the | :20:18. | :20:24. | |
BBC website of people chasing after bin lorries, family. Not just a few. | :20:25. | :20:30. | |
People taking out bags of waste and feeding it to their children. This | :20:31. | :20:36. | |
is such a desperate situation. Child malnourishment has gone up 30% in | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
the last year. As soon as the figures went out, the Minister for | :20:42. | :20:44. | |
health was sacked for revealing the figures from many people in many | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
places telly they have never seen something like this before. The bin | :20:49. | :20:54. | |
lorry pictures we have seen are only in the capital, in Caracas. Outside | :20:55. | :20:57. | |
the rest of the country the situation is much worse by far. They | :20:58. | :21:06. | |
think the Government has not fulfilled its responsibilities. The | :21:07. | :21:09. | |
more the time passes, the worse the economy will get and they will get | :21:10. | :21:13. | |
new leadership and the Government should listen. You have been | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
spending some time with the protesters. Let's have a look. | :21:18. | :21:20. | |
This group carries out this ritual before every | :21:21. | :21:23. | |
After almost 100 deaths and thousands of arrests, no wonder | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
Numerous Venezuelans have taken to the streets to ask | :21:28. | :21:35. | |
President Maduro to call for fresh elections, due to severe food | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
and medicine shortages but also against his plans | :21:40. | :21:42. | |
On the front line of every protest there is a group of young men | :21:43. | :21:49. | |
and women who call themselves the resistance, and they face | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
the worst of the security forces, the heavy-handed response. | :21:53. | :21:59. | |
This is what normally ends up happening, almost every day. | :22:00. | :22:05. | |
For more than three months, protests end up in violent | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
clashes where young men, young students, boys and girls, | :22:09. | :22:11. | |
can end up injured, and some of them even killed. | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
Many of the students in the resistance shy away | :22:17. | :22:18. | |
from the media to avoid exposure, but a group of them has agreed | :22:19. | :22:22. | |
In my day we were protesting against rising bus fares. | :22:23. | :22:30. | |
Today, it's a rather more desperate story. | :22:31. | :22:34. | |
We have concealed their identities and changed | :22:35. | :22:36. | |
The way I see it, the resistance is everybody who is against a regime. | :22:37. | :22:43. | |
Many people see it as a dictatorship, and if you look | :22:44. | :22:46. | |
at what they're doing, that's what it is, really. | :22:47. | :22:48. | |
At the moment, they are even trying to change our constitution, | :22:49. | :22:51. | |
which is what all our ancestors fought for. | :22:52. | :22:54. | |
I think the resistance is those people who come out to protest | :22:55. | :22:57. | |
and were willing to take the lead to confront the police | :22:58. | :23:00. | |
Many of the students I met told me they come from working class areas | :23:01. | :23:06. | |
which have been specially hit hard by the economic collapse. | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
But the Venezuelan government accuses them of staging a coup | :23:11. | :23:13. | |
Some have labelled us as terrorists, but I think that all of us youth | :23:14. | :23:20. | |
who make up the resistance are brave fighters. | :23:21. | :23:22. | |
We are defending our people from the government's brutal repression. | :23:23. | :23:32. | |
Venezuela state attorney Luisa Ortega Diaz has said | :23:33. | :23:34. | |
that the government's actions can be called state terrorism. | :23:35. | :23:37. | |
Thousands have been put in jail, some taken to military court, | :23:38. | :23:40. | |
and others have still been held even after a judge ordered their release. | :23:41. | :23:46. | |
I posed these issues to a Venezuelan high-ranking minister who gave | :23:47. | :23:49. | |
He passed the responsibility back to the Attorney General. | :23:50. | :23:58. | |
TRANSLATION: There've been more than 100 people | :23:59. | :23:59. | |
killed in street protests, but out of these almost 20 | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
are National Guardsmen or policeman, killed | :24:05. | :24:06. | |
Why has the Attorney General not made any comment about this? | :24:07. | :24:14. | |
I wouldn't hesitate to say that Mrs Ortega Diaz is responsible | :24:15. | :24:17. | |
through dereliction of duty for the deaths that have occurred | :24:18. | :24:19. | |
As the death toll rises, the protests in Caracas are now | :24:20. | :24:26. | |
increasingly followed by vigils like this one to remember the dead. | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
For everyone in this city, the focus now is on Sunday. | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
That's the date for a vote to elect a new assembly tasked with rewriting | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
This is a country that has seen many of its younger people killed, | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
People like these are commemorating the lives lost in this wave | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
This is very much an open wound, and the consequences are far | :24:50. | :24:55. | |
from known, regardless of who's going to run this nation. | :24:56. | :25:01. | |
Vladimir Hernandez, BBC News, Caracas. | :25:02. | :25:08. | |
Let's talk now to two Venezuelans living in London - | :25:09. | :25:10. | |
Angela Fuguet, who runs a shop selling Venezuelan clothes - | :25:11. | :25:19. | |
Alejandro Lovero who works in media, and, in Caracas, we can speak | :25:20. | :25:22. | |
with local journalist Fabiola Ferrero. | :25:23. | :25:25. | |
Thank you all for speaking to us today. First of all, tell us what | :25:26. | :25:32. | |
conditions are like for your family back home in Venezuelan. I was kind | :25:33. | :25:43. | |
of mixed up. My dad is a comedian, well over there. He has been | :25:44. | :25:47. | |
experimenting and dealing with this situation as everyone. He gets more | :25:48. | :25:55. | |
attention from the Government, draws more attention. It is difficult for | :25:56. | :26:02. | |
him, trying to fight against it. Being part of the resistance as | :26:03. | :26:08. | |
well. He tries to deliver the message from the people to the | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
Government, against the Government, against what the Government is doing | :26:13. | :26:15. | |
to the people. Is the Government cracking down on him? Yes. Since | :26:16. | :26:21. | |
some time ago, a long way before this, shutting down. He is going to | :26:22. | :26:27. | |
do the shows or whatever. My mother is a normal citizen. She is dealing | :26:28. | :26:36. | |
with the rest of the situation that everyone else deals with. Have IQ? | :26:37. | :26:46. | |
It has been very difficult. I have not been able to speak with my | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
parents. -- how about you? The only way we can communicate is through | :26:52. | :27:08. | |
WhatsApp or the occasional Facebook message. They do not often have | :27:09. | :27:14. | |
electricity. Food is scarce. They find food at super inflated prices. | :27:15. | :27:23. | |
Explain to people. If they go into a shop, is it empty shelves? Yes. | :27:24. | :27:33. | |
Shelves are empty. If you find products, they have been ransacked | :27:34. | :27:35. | |
from the shelves and they allow people to come in and buy them. | :27:36. | :27:40. | |
There is a restriction on how many products you can buy and if you can | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
find them. People buy things are necessary. If they can find them, | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
they can stockpile them. It is a case of being able to afford it. | :27:50. | :27:55. | |
Affordability is highly reduced because you are earning $10 a month | :27:56. | :27:58. | |
and you are paying $20 for something. That is like one month | :27:59. | :28:04. | |
and $10 and a product that can cost you between $6 and $10, to give you | :28:05. | :28:11. | |
an idea. It does not matter where you come from. It does not matter | :28:12. | :28:17. | |
whether you are rich or poor. Everyone is suffering from this. It | :28:18. | :28:22. | |
is not... It does not just affect a certain part of the population. I | :28:23. | :28:31. | |
want to bring you in. Give us a sense of what it is like on the | :28:32. | :28:37. | |
streets. You are a few days away from the hugely controversial | :28:38. | :28:42. | |
elections. Is it calm or are there protesters on the streets? Thank | :28:43. | :28:45. | |
you. I'm very sorry to hear about the stories we have just heard from | :28:46. | :28:53. | |
my fellow countrymen. The streets are not calm at all. It is true the | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
protests are smaller at the moment. A lot of the reasons is because | :29:00. | :29:04. | |
people are afraid there have been over 100 deaths. The number keeps | :29:05. | :29:10. | |
increasing on a daily basis. Also there has been a change in the | :29:11. | :29:13. | |
protesting. People are blocking their own streets to try to avoid | :29:14. | :29:21. | |
people from walking the streets and blocking the whole city. This works | :29:22. | :29:25. | |
mainly in the east part of the city. Also at night. You can see very | :29:26. | :29:32. | |
violent confrontations between some protesters and the state security | :29:33. | :29:37. | |
forces in some other areas of the cities. What the feeling is is you | :29:38. | :29:44. | |
can see very high tension in the streets. Not only in the political | :29:45. | :29:48. | |
sphere but also the regular citizen is living in a merry hostile | :29:49. | :29:55. | |
situation right now. Explain why these elections on Sunday are so | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
controversial. It is basically like a declaration of a dictatorship. It | :30:01. | :30:05. | |
is not like they did not ask anyone, would you like us to do the election | :30:06. | :30:09. | |
or a referendum? They are just going to do it. They are heading straight | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
for them. The candidates are not people who have prepared with a | :30:16. | :30:20. | |
proper background for the sector. The Government is just doing it, | :30:21. | :30:25. | |
regardless of what the people think, or the whole country thinks. They | :30:26. | :30:29. | |
did a popular presentation of seven and a half million people voting and | :30:30. | :30:33. | |
signing against that and they just don't care. They think they own the | :30:34. | :30:38. | |
country. That is what, among many other reasons, which has people | :30:39. | :30:44. | |
protesting against the Government. It's not like we want something | :30:45. | :30:50. | |
else. This has to stop. Thank you for coming in today and speaking to | :30:51. | :30:51. | |
us. Could a glass of wine be the new way | :30:52. | :30:54. | |
to fight against type 2 diabetes? Calls for prison staffing levels | :30:55. | :31:03. | |
to be reviewed urgently after an explosive device was let | :31:04. | :31:05. | |
off at HMP Cardiff. We'll be live in Wales | :31:06. | :31:11. | |
in a few minutes' time. The BBC understands that at least 60 | :31:12. | :31:17. | |
high-rise buildings, which used insulation and cladding | :31:18. | :31:21. | |
similar to Grenfell Tower, The test saw the materials analysed | :31:22. | :31:25. | |
together for the first time. The only buildings identified so far | :31:26. | :31:32. | |
are nine council blocks in Salford in Greater Manchester, | :31:33. | :31:34. | |
where the local council is asking for help from central government | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
to meet the cost of replacements. Ministers will publish the full test | :31:39. | :31:42. | |
findings later this morning. Pakistan's Prime Minister | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
Nawaz Sharif has resigned after the country's Supreme Court | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
unanimously ruled that he should be disqualified over | :31:51. | :31:52. | |
corruption allegations. The ruling follows accusations | :31:53. | :31:55. | |
relating to the Panama Papers published two years ago, | :31:56. | :31:59. | |
in which Mr Sharif's three He and his family | :32:00. | :32:02. | |
deny any wrongdoing. Phillip Hammond, has said there's | :32:03. | :32:05. | |
broad agreement in Cabinet that there should be a transition | :32:06. | :32:07. | |
period of up to three years after Brexit - | :32:08. | :32:10. | |
but it should be concluded before The Chancellor said a failure | :32:11. | :32:13. | |
to implement a transition deal would sow chaos for business | :32:14. | :32:21. | |
and that it was in the interests of the EU and Britain | :32:22. | :32:24. | |
to have a transition that allows Donald Trump has suffered a defeat | :32:25. | :32:27. | |
on one of his key campaign pledges A number of Republicans, | :32:28. | :32:36. | |
including former presidential nominee John McCain, | :32:37. | :32:39. | |
voted against a bill which would have repealed | :32:40. | :32:41. | |
the healthcare law passed by former The bill was rejected in a dramatic, | :32:42. | :32:43. | |
late-night vote by 51 votes to 49. The Republican Party's leader | :32:44. | :32:59. | |
in the Senate described The same number of Russians serving | :33:00. | :33:20. | |
in the United States. The Russian Government says it is seizing a | :33:21. | :33:23. | |
compound and warehouse used by US diplomats. The move comes after the | :33:24. | :33:27. | |
US Senate voted to place new sanctions on Russia. | :33:28. | :33:37. | |
That's a summary of the latest news. We had head over to the sports | :33:38. | :33:46. | |
centre. Daniel Ricciardo has finished | :33:47. | :33:54. | |
fastest in his Red Bull. Lewis Hamilton was third quickest. | :33:55. | :34:03. | |
Alistair Cook will resume on 82 not out after keeping South Africa at | :34:04. | :34:08. | |
bay. It was shortened by the rain. England are through to the | :34:09. | :34:12. | |
quarter-finals of the women's European Championship with three | :34:13. | :34:16. | |
wins out of three. France come next for them. Scotland | :34:17. | :34:22. | |
just missed out despite a 1-0 win over Spain. This is the first race | :34:23. | :34:27. | |
of the card at Yarmouth races yesterday. Everyone thought it was | :34:28. | :34:32. | |
won by Mandarin Princess. It was mistaken identity. That was the | :34:33. | :34:38. | |
stable-mate Millie's Kiss. The trainer only realised afterwards. | :34:39. | :34:39. | |
More in the next hour. People who drink alcohol three | :34:40. | :34:44. | |
to four times a week are 30% less likely to develop type 2 | :34:45. | :34:46. | |
diabetes - than those That's according to researchers | :34:47. | :34:49. | |
in Denmark, where more than 70,000 people took part | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
in a health study that The UK's leading diabetes charity | :34:55. | :34:56. | |
warns this isn't a green light Let's talk to the author | :34:57. | :35:00. | |
of the research Professor Janne Tolstrup at the University | :35:01. | :35:07. | |
of Southern Denmark in Copenhagen. First of all, a huge study this, | :35:08. | :35:24. | |
70,000 people, and it found that red wine is particularly good for us. In | :35:25. | :35:29. | |
fighting off type two diabetes, I should say. Well, yes, we did | :35:30. | :35:35. | |
exploratory analysis on the type of alcohol. Actually our main resource, | :35:36. | :35:40. | |
where we have largest strength of our study is the results in drinking | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
frequency where we are comparing people who drink a certain amount of | :35:46. | :35:51. | |
alcohol a week and we are studying if there are differences between | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
those who - for instance if a man is on average drinking 14 units a week, | :35:56. | :35:59. | |
is there a difference in his risk of diabetes, whether he drinks it all | :36:00. | :36:05. | |
during one night or tends to spread it out on three or four days. | :36:06. | :36:13. | |
Drinking alcohol in smaller proportions more frequently is | :36:14. | :36:20. | |
associated with the lower risk as compared to drinking in only one | :36:21. | :36:24. | |
portion. Binge drink something bad, no drinking isn't so great but | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
drinking three or four times a week can stave off type two diabetes? | :36:30. | :36:37. | |
Well, yeah, now in this study we looked at specifically diabetes, so | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
I would definitely not go out saying to everybody they should drink three | :36:42. | :36:47. | |
or four times a week because alcohol is associated with so many different | :36:48. | :36:52. | |
diseases and what we studied here was only the risk of diabetes. So of | :36:53. | :36:57. | |
course these results should not be used to advise people to go | :36:58. | :37:02. | |
drinking. Dan, people watching this on Friday, might be having a smile | :37:03. | :37:08. | |
to themselves, fantastic, I am going to have a beer, particularly if you | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
are a man, I read. Glass of wine, that's good? It very much sounds | :37:13. | :37:20. | |
like it, doesn't it. The... It is suggesting that there potentially is | :37:21. | :37:23. | |
a need for more research in this area. We currently know that in | :37:24. | :37:28. | |
order to prevent type two diabetes in the vast majority of people there | :37:29. | :37:33. | |
is much more evidence and more sound evidence to suggest a healthy diet | :37:34. | :37:40. | |
and physical activity. So it's not as probably fun or as interesting as | :37:41. | :37:46. | |
going down to the pub to crack open a bottle of wine. There is a little | :37:47. | :37:51. | |
bit of hard work associated with healthy diets and exercise. We know | :37:52. | :37:58. | |
there is not really a quick win in preventing type two diabetes. | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
Professor, I was reading, beer lowers your diabetes risk if you are | :38:03. | :38:07. | |
a man but not a woman. Spirits made no difference. Yes. That is true. I | :38:08. | :38:15. | |
must say that for instance beer among women was a bit difficult in | :38:16. | :38:28. | |
our study because 70% taken was wine, we didn't have statistical | :38:29. | :38:34. | |
power to study how beer affected the risk among women and only found that | :38:35. | :38:40. | |
beer was associated with men. That may be because we didn't really have | :38:41. | :38:49. | |
the data on beer in women. Do you know what it is in wine that is | :38:50. | :38:55. | |
fighting the type two diabetes? No, we do not. Actually we interpret | :38:56. | :39:03. | |
these results as it is most likely that it's the alcohol itself that | :39:04. | :39:09. | |
has apparent beneficial effects. Actually when we started out our | :39:10. | :39:20. | |
study there have been a number of studies that shows that... What we | :39:21. | :39:26. | |
wanted to take that finding further to see if there was a difference and | :39:27. | :39:32. | |
how you drink, what I mentioned before, with drinking frequency, it | :39:33. | :39:38. | |
seems better to drink frequently than having smaller portions of | :39:39. | :39:42. | |
alcohol. Dan, do you worry when stories like this come out that it | :39:43. | :39:46. | |
sends out a wrong message? Absolutely. I think the problem is | :39:47. | :39:53. | |
that the headline is drinking more reduces your diabetes risk and | :39:54. | :39:57. | |
that's really, we can't change our current practice based on this one | :39:58. | :40:01. | |
study alone. But it is a huge study, 70,000. Absolutely. It is a huge | :40:02. | :40:05. | |
study, but there still needs to be a little more done into this area, | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
really for us to understand the real reasons behind it. Type two diabetes | :40:10. | :40:16. | |
is an traemly complex condition. Its prevention of it is just as complex | :40:17. | :40:22. | |
as its management. So, while we look at, let's take the alcohol, | :40:23. | :40:25. | |
potentially drinking too much alcohol will push your blood | :40:26. | :40:28. | |
pressure up and having high blood pressure is also a risk factor for | :40:29. | :40:32. | |
developing type two diabetes so it's very understandable for the general | :40:33. | :40:36. | |
public to be confused in this area. So, the problem is we are looking at | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
it in an isolated way and you need to look at it in the round. | :40:41. | :40:44. | |
Absolutely, there are many factors that contribute to your risk of | :40:45. | :40:49. | |
developing type two diabetes. We can't just take one of those. | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
Ethnicity, age, even gender is going to have a contributing factor. | :40:55. | :41:00. | |
Everything needs to be taken on a holistic approach really. If people | :41:01. | :41:04. | |
are watching this, what would be your message to them, you have done | :41:05. | :41:10. | |
this indepth research with a lot of people, a huge sample, would you say | :41:11. | :41:13. | |
that you agree with what Dan is saying that we need to be careful | :41:14. | :41:16. | |
about what message comes out from this? Sure. I absolutely agree. Also | :41:17. | :41:22. | |
what we can see is still looking in isolation on diabetes, but the risk | :41:23. | :41:29. | |
tends to go up again if you go above the level of moderate drinking, one | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
or two drinks a day on average. I think that when it comes to | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
recommendations about how should people act in terms of alcohol, we | :41:39. | :41:43. | |
have the national guidelines in most countries at least and you should | :41:44. | :41:47. | |
stick with them and they say something like it's OK to drink a | :41:48. | :41:54. | |
bit in moderation and to avoid binge drinking and that's absolutely not | :41:55. | :41:58. | |
changed from this study. Thank you for speaking to us. | :41:59. | :42:04. | |
Four men have been arrested on suspicion of attempting to make | :42:05. | :42:06. | |
an explosive device at Cardiff Prison. | :42:07. | :42:08. | |
The incident came to light when a prison worker contacted | :42:09. | :42:10. | |
a Welsh Assembly Member with concerns about the impact | :42:11. | :42:12. | |
We're joined now from Cardiff by our reporter Kate Morgan. | :42:13. | :42:17. | |
What do we know? Four men have been arrested after an explosive device | :42:18. | :42:21. | |
was made at the prison last month. In June, there was a plastic bottle | :42:22. | :42:28. | |
and it was filled with a clear liquid, and that erupted on the | :42:29. | :42:33. | |
floor. No one was injured and no one was hurt. This is what the Prison | :42:34. | :42:37. | |
Officers' Association says he knows about what happened. This was an | :42:38. | :42:40. | |
incident that actually happened on 16th June where a prisoner was | :42:41. | :42:44. | |
observed placing a plastic container under a stairwell. When he removed | :42:45. | :42:48. | |
himself from that area the container exploded, there was no damage to | :42:49. | :42:52. | |
property and no injuries to staff or prisoners. Apparently two prisoners | :42:53. | :42:54. | |
got moved out of the establishment the next day. The police were in | :42:55. | :43:00. | |
attendance and there is an internal and criminal investigation. It begs | :43:01. | :43:04. | |
the question how did this get into a prison? Well, quite. One staff | :43:05. | :43:10. | |
member was so concerned they got in touch with an Assembly member which | :43:11. | :43:15. | |
is why we know what happened. They told Bethan Jenkins, she says this | :43:16. | :43:22. | |
was made out of an everyday item, it happened to be flammable. Concern of | :43:23. | :43:27. | |
the worker is how did this happen with prison staff and prison | :43:28. | :43:30. | |
officers, they should be watching and know about this, there are | :43:31. | :43:33. | |
concerns that staff shortages lead to this happening. It wasn't a huge | :43:34. | :43:36. | |
explosion but the fact it could happen in the first place is what is | :43:37. | :43:39. | |
really the concern here. Thank you. More migrants trying to get | :43:40. | :43:44. | |
into the US illegally die in Brooks County than any other | :43:45. | :43:47. | |
place in Texas. Brooks County is not | :43:48. | :43:49. | |
on the border though, it is 65 miles north | :43:50. | :43:51. | |
of the frontier. A Border Patrol checkpoint has | :43:52. | :43:56. | |
created a 'second frontier' forcing illegal migrants to risk their lives | :43:57. | :43:59. | |
by going around it. 550 bodies have been found | :44:00. | :44:04. | |
in the hot desolate scrubland around the checkpoint in | :44:05. | :44:09. | |
the last seven years. The BBC's Juan Paullier joins | :44:10. | :44:11. | |
Don White, a volunteer Sheriff's Don is a volunteer and he's | :44:12. | :44:13. | |
looking for migrants. More often than not, | :44:14. | :44:34. | |
he only finds their remains. So you look for the paths | :44:35. | :44:39. | |
that they trail and then you backtrack those to see | :44:40. | :44:42. | |
if anybody has been left behind. This toothpaste was probably | :44:43. | :44:50. | |
left behind by migrants hiding in these branches, | :44:51. | :44:52. | |
and many of them die here. What is striking is that we are more | :44:53. | :45:01. | |
than 100 kilometres north of the actual border with Mexico, | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
and you can hear the cars We are on the outskirts of a town | :45:05. | :45:07. | |
where a border patrol It is a major corridor | :45:08. | :45:18. | |
used by people smugglers To circumvent the checkpoint, | :45:19. | :45:22. | |
migrants are forced to walk through the surrounding brush | :45:23. | :45:29. | |
for 40 kilometres. This is not the place where migrants | :45:30. | :45:33. | |
expect to die, but they do. I am not worried about encountering | :45:34. | :45:36. | |
the border crossers. I am worried about | :45:37. | :45:45. | |
the drug smugglers. They are carrying armed, | :45:46. | :45:47. | |
I want to make sure I can equal up. Don works with the Missing Migrant | :45:48. | :45:55. | |
Initiative, a multi-agency project, Their aim, to recover | :45:56. | :45:57. | |
those left behind. It is easy to get lost, | :45:58. | :46:05. | |
and many migrants die More than 550 in | :46:06. | :46:07. | |
the last seven years. He called it in and | :46:08. | :46:18. | |
it was collected. The sheriff asked if I could do | :46:19. | :46:25. | |
a follow-up search of the area Towards the rat mounds, | :46:26. | :46:28. | |
and these were big rats. Towards the rat mounds and a huge | :46:29. | :46:36. | |
cactus but we found several new bones, a cellphone, | :46:37. | :46:42. | |
photo ID, so, that was Half an hour into our patrol, | :46:43. | :46:45. | |
Don finds something. So that was dropped three | :46:46. | :47:02. | |
or four months ago. Why does Don, who lives three hours | :47:03. | :47:08. | |
away, often spend days here? Decades ago his niece | :47:09. | :47:11. | |
was kidnapped and killed, and it took two months | :47:12. | :47:13. | |
for her remains to be found. They have lost somebody | :47:14. | :47:19. | |
in your family, and you don't know where they were lost, | :47:20. | :47:23. | |
you don't know where they were at, you don't know if they are even | :47:24. | :47:26. | |
buried, you have nothing you can bury, nothing that | :47:27. | :47:29. | |
you can go and worship, nothing you can go visit, nothing | :47:30. | :47:35. | |
you can put flowers on. So I guess that's why I do | :47:36. | :47:38. | |
it, for the families It's hard to know how many people | :47:39. | :47:52. | |
cross through this sector, but the local sheriff | :47:53. | :47:57. | |
believes there are many What I would say is for | :47:58. | :47:59. | |
everybody we recover, we would probably have | :48:00. | :48:04. | |
five missing, OK. So that kind of tells you the number | :48:05. | :48:06. | |
of bodies which are still out The search can be difficult | :48:07. | :48:10. | |
since the land is privately owned, but some ranchers | :48:11. | :48:14. | |
are trying to help. The ranchers probably have | :48:15. | :48:22. | |
about $1 million of property damage as far as fencing and wells, water | :48:23. | :48:24. | |
wells, whatever the issue might be, We do have some ranchers out | :48:25. | :48:29. | |
there who have applied You utilise those ladders | :48:30. | :48:32. | |
to go over the fence. But they don't do that, | :48:33. | :48:43. | |
because they feel it's a trap. They feel it's a trap | :48:44. | :48:46. | |
so they don't use those, Eddie Canales is also trying | :48:47. | :48:48. | |
to prevent migrant deaths. For the past four years, | :48:49. | :49:07. | |
he has been putting out water There is is, the water | :49:08. | :49:09. | |
station right there. For him and his team, | :49:10. | :49:13. | |
it's a continuous job. They had to dispense over 450 litres | :49:14. | :49:16. | |
in the last two days. Many of the barrels were emptied | :49:17. | :49:22. | |
and taken away by people who don't agree with his | :49:23. | :49:24. | |
stance on immigration. Actually, most people see it | :49:25. | :49:29. | |
as an important effort to try and save people, | :49:30. | :49:31. | |
because nobody really I think in 2012 here, | :49:32. | :49:35. | |
when they saw a body every day, or more, I think it hardened people | :49:36. | :49:39. | |
but it also made them aware of the situation, | :49:40. | :49:48. | |
so they support the effort. They don't want to see deaths | :49:49. | :49:50. | |
continue in this county. 20 metres away from the tank, | :49:51. | :50:00. | |
he finds something. Well, it's a woman's | :50:01. | :50:03. | |
identification, from El Salvador. Well, it's somebody | :50:04. | :50:05. | |
that was coming through here. He plans to take it and find out | :50:06. | :50:13. | |
if someone is trying to find her. We'll see if there are any calls, | :50:14. | :50:17. | |
if the consulate in El Salvador has received a missing | :50:18. | :50:20. | |
person's report themselves. She may have died, | :50:21. | :50:29. | |
she may have survived. The truth is, no one knows | :50:30. | :50:31. | |
what happens to many of the people passing through this killing field | :50:32. | :50:34. | |
on American soil. So after all the thrills and spills | :50:35. | :50:45. | |
- not to mention all the lumps, Channel 4's sports reality TV | :50:46. | :50:48. | |
show The Jump will be The broadcaster said | :50:49. | :50:53. | |
the programme had been a "hugely successful brand", | :50:54. | :50:58. | |
but won't be returning Last year's show was dogged | :50:59. | :51:00. | |
by injuries, which resulted in seven Olympic gymnast Beth Tweddle needed | :51:01. | :51:06. | |
neck surgery after fracturing two vertebrae, and gold medallist | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
Rebecca Adlington dislocated her shoulder when she lost control | :51:11. | :51:13. | |
and hurtled off a 100 metre icy With me now is the comedian | :51:14. | :51:16. | |
Mark Dolan, who took part And in Surrey, TV | :51:17. | :51:27. | |
presenter Laura Hamilton - she took part in the very first | :51:28. | :51:30. | |
series in 2014, just I take my hat off to you for that. | :51:31. | :51:43. | |
When you did the programme, what was it like you? I absolutely had the | :51:44. | :51:51. | |
best experience. As you said, I had just had a baby. Four weeks after | :51:52. | :51:57. | |
the birth of my son. The trainers are incredible, the best in the | :51:58. | :52:02. | |
business. I love skiing. I had skied since I was a kid, I was nine. It | :52:03. | :52:08. | |
was the most amazing experience with getting to learn the different | :52:09. | :52:13. | |
disciplines. Speed skating, Bobsleigh. I loved it. How about | :52:14. | :52:20. | |
you? Did you love it? I am out of plaster and have full movement back. | :52:21. | :52:27. | |
I was very lucky. I had the usual knocks and scrapes you would | :52:28. | :52:31. | |
probably have if you went on a skiing holiday. I was doing the | :52:32. | :52:35. | |
parallel slalom race, essentially getting down the mountain as quickly | :52:36. | :52:41. | |
as possible but via these flags. There was a lot of turning. At speed | :52:42. | :52:47. | |
it is harder to turn. I tumbled a few times. At one point the ski came | :52:48. | :52:52. | |
off and karate chop the back of another boot. Was nice the two days. | :52:53. | :52:58. | |
I was not unscathed. The point of the show is it is hazardous. Winter | :52:59. | :53:04. | |
sports are hazardous. All sport hazardous, especially if the bunch | :53:05. | :53:11. | |
of retired sports stars and TV presenters do it. That is the cell | :53:12. | :53:16. | |
of the show and why it ran for four series. Did you get injured? I did | :53:17. | :53:24. | |
not. I got injured when I'm did Dancing On Ice I did not injure | :53:25. | :53:33. | |
myself on The Jump. Where You Fully Briefed Both Of You On How Dangerous | :53:34. | :53:40. | |
It Was? What could happen to you. Totally briefed. Safety, for me, | :53:41. | :53:48. | |
James Abbott, the ski jumping coach is still a friend of mine. I | :53:49. | :53:53. | |
actually see him abroad because he lives in the sun. They won't let you | :53:54. | :53:59. | |
progress to the next jump until they really believe that you are capable | :54:00. | :54:07. | |
enough to do it. There are constant checks. Unfortunately, I guess, | :54:08. | :54:15. | |
accidents do happen and all sports are hazardous. You are fully made | :54:16. | :54:20. | |
aware of how dangerous things are. You just have to read the contract | :54:21. | :54:25. | |
which has the word death in it loads. It is very disheartening to | :54:26. | :54:32. | |
you feel like you're signing your away. Channel 4 and the brilliant | :54:33. | :54:39. | |
production company that makes the show is the studious about it. They | :54:40. | :54:42. | |
are fastidious on the training site. I am not friends with the trainer. | :54:43. | :54:51. | |
He was like the Grim Reaper. He was like, we're going to jump today and | :54:52. | :54:56. | |
I would say, I don't think so. He would make me. The contracts are | :54:57. | :55:02. | |
very detailed about everything that could happen. It was contacted and | :55:03. | :55:08. | |
anticipated there were contingencies, including a life | :55:09. | :55:12. | |
changing injuries. I am sure Laura is the same. No one is flippant | :55:13. | :55:16. | |
about that. I am saddened by the injuries that did happen on the | :55:17. | :55:22. | |
show. It is quite tragic in one or two cases. It is a trade-off you | :55:23. | :55:28. | |
make when you are offered the show. I spent two weeks deliberating. In | :55:29. | :55:35. | |
the end, I felt that I am 43, I am unfit. Unfortunately the weight has | :55:36. | :55:42. | |
all gone back on. This would be a big adventure and it is a trade-off | :55:43. | :55:44. | |
of a great experience versus some risk. Some serious big names were | :55:45. | :55:50. | |
taking that risk, like Bradley Wiggins. I reckon presumably it is | :55:51. | :55:57. | |
about the money as well, isn't it? I have just had a baby and I thought | :55:58. | :56:02. | |
it was an amazing opportunity to lose baby weight. And get out of the | :56:03. | :56:10. | |
house. I would never have left my baby behind. I was never in the | :56:11. | :56:15. | |
show. I was a reserve. I only came into the show to replace the elves. | :56:16. | :56:23. | |
For whatever reason they were not doing the show anymore. That is | :56:24. | :56:27. | |
because someone else. I was like, amazing ex-commissioner I was able | :56:28. | :56:31. | |
to ski for a month, doing something I love. I could lose some baby | :56:32. | :56:38. | |
weight. I did not really read the contract. I'd just left that to my | :56:39. | :56:45. | |
agent. Everything you do has a risk. I wanted to do it and I went for it. | :56:46. | :56:52. | |
I use a prize that it is taking a rest? Some people suggesting the | :56:53. | :56:59. | |
rest might be permanent. -- are you surprised? It was the most written | :57:00. | :57:03. | |
about and talked about reality show partly because of the peril. Let's | :57:04. | :57:08. | |
not gloss over the fact. Laura and I have both been very positive about | :57:09. | :57:13. | |
the experience. I have never known terror like it. The very best thing | :57:14. | :57:19. | |
about the programme, it is a credit to Channel 4 to have the courage to | :57:20. | :57:24. | |
commission a thing. It was risky. They did it four times over. It is | :57:25. | :57:31. | |
all real. A lot of TV is manufactured jeopardy. It is like | :57:32. | :57:34. | |
getting to the top of a three story building and you slide down. I know | :57:35. | :57:44. | |
no bounds. Thank you for talking to us, both of you. I have had this | :57:45. | :57:51. | |
e-mail. I think you need to report more on the issues in Venezuela. | :57:52. | :57:56. | |
There is so little food and almost no medicine. In a hospital or you | :57:57. | :58:04. | |
getting food, you can be arrested. Thank you for getting in touch. | :58:05. | :58:08. |