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Hello, it's Friday, it's 9am. Welcome to the programme.

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More than 80 people died in the tragedy in June. Our reporter will

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have the latest on the results in the next few minutes. How easy is it

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to buy deadly diet pills online? The parents of a young woman who died

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from taking them tell this programme they're shocked at how little is

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known about them and how to tell the signs of people using them. More

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setbacks for Donald Trump in his bid to scrap the healthcare laws set up

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by President Obama as the Senate rejeths his latest plans. This

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latest blow comes as the President's new communications chief is forced

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to say sorry for his outburst on White House colleagues.

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Lots coming up today, have you bought diet pills?

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- many are illegal and deadly but can be bought online.

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Get in touch with us as we are talking

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about that also some new research that might seem a bit suprising

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which is that people who drink three to four times a week are LESS likley

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to develop type 2 diabetes than those who never drink -

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Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

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use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

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The BBC understands at least 60 buildings have failed a new fire

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safety test. The test is seen as more they were owe than previous

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ones as more materials were analysed together for the first time. So far,

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just nine of the buildings which failed have been identified. They're

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in Salford in Greater Manchester. The local council is asking for help

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from central Government to meet the cost of replacements. Ministers will

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publish the full test findings later this morning. Dan Johnson reports.

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While those touched by Grenfell wait for a full picture of how this fire

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spread, other residents in other towers are nervous,

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These blocks in Salford, nine of them, are among the 60

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across England we understand will be declared a risk after failing

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The thought of you not being safe when you're sleeping in bed

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of a night-time, thinking that that's not safe,

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I don't care how much money it cost - it's not money,

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it's people's lives at the end of the day.

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I think we're sitting on a tinderbox when you look at all the flats.

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Some of the cladding had already come down.

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In the first round of tests, panels from every building failed.

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After criticism that wasn't realistic, experts have now combined

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cladding and the insulation fitted behind it to show which materials

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are dangerous when they're put together, like they were on Grenfell

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Yesterday, the police said there were reasonable grounds

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to suspect corporate manslaughter may have been committed

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by the council or the tenant management organisation.

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More than six weeks since Grenfell burned, the investigation

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is finding its focus while the reverberations reach right

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Ben Brown has a summary of the rest of the day's news.

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The emergency services are saying they have attended to 40 people at

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the station, one person is seriously injured, 18 in total taken to

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hospital, including the train driver and 20 other people have minor

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injuries. This is in a central Barcelona train station, a major

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hub. We are talking about Spain's regional trains, they travel

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relatively short distances, not at high speed. Looking at the pictures,

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what appears to have happened is that the train crashed into the

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buffers of the station so no other train involved, possibly the train

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didn't stop and this is nothing on the scale of other rail disasters we

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have seen in Spain in recent years, most notably in 2013 when 80 people

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were killed, thankfully no one killed in this incident but clearly

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something has gone wrong when this train crashed at around about 7 am

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local time. Thank you very much. Philip ham manned has said there is

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broad agreement -- Hammond has said there is broad agreement in Cabinet

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that there should and transition period of up to three years after

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Brexit but it should be concluded before the next election in 2022.

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The Chancellor said a failure to implement a transition deal would

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sow chaos for business and that it was in the interests of the EU and

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Britain to have the transition that allows the economies to adjust. My

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view is well known, I believe it will be in Britain's interests and

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in the EU's interests if, after we leave the European Union, the single

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market and the customs union on 29th March, 2019, there is then a period,

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call it transition, interim period, whatever you like, during which we

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will allow our economies to adjust to the new situation, rather than

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having a cliff-edge in March 2019 which would cause immense disruption

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for businesses and for citizens. The Chancellor.

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President Trump has suffered a defeat on one of his key campaign

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pledges to reform US healthcare. A number of republicans including John

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McCain voted against a bill which would have repealed the healthcare

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law passed by President Obama. The bill was rejected in a late night

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vote by 51 votes to 59. The republican party leader described it

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as disappointing. The Labour Party say defence cuts

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have left the UK reliant on other countries to protect British waters.

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Figures obtained by the party show Nato allies sent nearly 40 planes to

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the UK last year to help with maritime patrols. The Ministry of

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Defence says most of the aircraft were for training and military

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exercises. Four men have been arrested after

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they tried to make an explosive device at Cardiff prison. It came to

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light when a prison worker contacted a Welsh Assembly member, Bethan

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Jenkins, with concerns about staffing. Aid workers in Greece have

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told BBC news they're dealing with hundreds of extremely vulnerable

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refugees being held on the island of Lesbos. Many have suffered torture

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and sexual abuse at the hands of so-called Islamic State in Syria and

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Iraq. The European Commission said those refugees should be moved to

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Athens for specialist treatment. Two teenagers are in custody in

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connection with one of the recent wild fires in the south of France.

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The pair are expected of so deliberately set fire to scrub land

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on Tuesday. The fires, which led to thousands of people, including

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British holiday-makers evacuated, have largely now been put out.

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Firefighters have warned people to be vigilant as other blazes could

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still start. People who drink alcohol three to

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four times a week are 30% less likely to develop type two diabetes

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than those who never drink. More than 70,000 people took part in a

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large Danish health study that measured drinking habits. The UK's

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leading diabetes charity warns this is not a green light to drink

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excessively. The study also found that not all

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alcohol is equal. Wine appeared to be particularly beneficial, as the

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chemical compounds, especially in red wine, seem to help manage blood

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sugar. And there was a warning to women to stay clear of gin. A daily

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tipple or other spirits increased their diabetes risk by 83%. Diabetes

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UK, however, warns that the effect of alcohol on developing diabetes

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differs from one person to the next. Where did the people who were

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drinking an awful lot, when was this happening? Was there different times

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of the year they were drinking more alcohol that had an impact. For

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example, if you are in the festive season people drink more and eat

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more. Those things really weren't discussed in much detail. While this

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study is in early stages, it is hoped it might spur future research

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to help some of the 12 million Britons currently at risk of

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developing type two diabetes. Public health England have been in

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touch to say: It is not helpful to talk about the

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effect of alcohol consumption on diabetes alone.

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Bags of rubbish are piling up in Birmingham as bin collectors

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A row with the council over job losses and changes to working

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Thousands of residents have been affected, despite council efforts

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to add extra collections, and many people are

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The strike is set to last until September.

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A driver lost control of his new Ferrari, one hour after he bought

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the vehicle. The police have released these pictures of the

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wrecked car after it left the M1 during wet weather. Remarkably, the

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driver escaped with minor injuries. That's a summary of the latest news.

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Now the sport. England are through to the

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quarter-finals of the Euro 2017, the women's championship. Scotland

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missed out by that much, it was an extraordinary night in the

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Netherlands. We will start with England. Ten changes to the team for

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the match after winning the first two games. A mistake from the

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Portugal keeper allowed Toni Duggan to score. It was in the downhill

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from there. It wasn't a good first half performance. In the second half

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two minutes into it, Paris suggested England were going to play much

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better. England go on to play France in the quarter-finals. This is very

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difficult because they have not beaten France since 1974 and also

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they've lost in the last three major tournaments, as well. Can they carry

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on winning ugly or any other way? Here is the coach. We go into this

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knockout round feeling like whatever is going to come our way, we have

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the answers to those questions and we can find solutions. Of course it

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will be a difficult challenge, France ash great team. We have to

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get ready for that but we are going to enjoy tonight first. We are

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already excited with the quarter-final. How close were

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Scotland? One goal away from joining England. They beat Spain 1-0. An

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impressive result. But their opponents go through instead. There

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was a chance to send them through to the last eight but they missed from

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three yards. Head in hands, quite right. This brings to an end what

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was Scotland's first ever major tournament and they were that close

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to making it through to the last eight. You can understand why

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they're feeling that disappointed. Yeah, frustrating stuff. Let's talk

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about horse racing. This is bizarre. A crazy mix-up at Yarmouth race

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course. Look at this, this is the Racing Post ready for you, this is

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the story on the front page. Yarmouth shambles as the wrong horse

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wins at 50-1. The first race was won by a horse called Mandarin Princess

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as so we thought, it turns out it was her stable-mate who was there to

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run the 4th race. He said he was rushed to get the

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saddling process done. Didn't realise it was the wrong horse at

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the time. They only realised afterwards when they scanned the

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micro chip in every race horse's neck, realised it was the other

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horse, who was a year older and has run ten races. He says it was an

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honest mistake, the result officially must stand for betting

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purposes. In case you are on that 50-1, you are still going to win. It

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is likely that Charlie McBride will get a fine. Do the horses look

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similar? They're the same colour. The difference between a

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dwo-year-old and three-year-old filly I will defer to people who

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know horses more than me. Also if you have a series of things to go

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through before every race as a trainer he will have more than

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probably the two horses on that day, as well. He will have a lot to get

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through. You can understand why he might not have necessarily checked

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it. Also let's talk about residents in a small Welsh village, if they

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had gone to the local charity shop yesterday would have done quite

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well. They would have had to be quick, though. Sam Warburton decided

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instead of going to a private fancy dinner or auction to sell off

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memorabilia from a sporting achievement, his Lions kit from New

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Zealand which he captained, he took it to his local charity shop instead

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and he tweeted his arrival at the charity shop. There he is with bags

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and all. It's in Rhiwbina in Wales. It was available from yesterday at a

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cancer care shop. You can imagine if it was available by 4pm, it might

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have been gone by ten past. Thank you.

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We understand 60 high-rise buildings have failed a new fire safety test.

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The test is seen as more thorough as more materials were analysed

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together for the first time. Jim has been covering this from the

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first day of the peers with us now. If you look at a photograph of the

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outside of Grunfeld Tower quit your notice two things will to the

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cladding panels are aluminium, much thinner than you would imagine. We

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have already had safety tests. They have come back as failing the safety

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tests. There is also a secondary material on here. This is the

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installation behind the cladding materials some in local government

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and in the construction industry want a more comprehensive test. Who

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are not just testing cladding panels can you are testing the whole

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system. That is what we are hearing about today. This is a much more

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thorough tests. We will show you a version. This is video footage to

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give you an idea of what we are looking at. This is a mock-up of the

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outside of the building. We will look at how it responds in the event

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of a serious fire that there are different combinations of

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installation and cladding. We have the first results back. That is on

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the same combination that was on the outside of Grunfeld Tower. It has

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failed. There are another 60 buildings across England with that

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similar combination of installation and cladding on the outside of the

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buildings. We are not being told where yet. We do understand the only

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council owned properties are in Salford in Manchester. Nine blocks

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there, we think. The others will be owned by private landlords and by

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housing associations. We should get some idea about where they are later

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this morning. This is coming from Sean. When you look around, the

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cladding method seems to be prevalent on many buildings,

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hospitals, schools, hotels, pretty much all modern constructions. I

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noticed there were similar blocks. Are all the methods of construction

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being tested or just on residential blocks? At the moment it is on all

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blocks. Any organisation concerned can send in products for testing.

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That is why you have started to see results from hospitals and student

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accommodation. Just because there is cladding on the outside of the

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building does not necessarily mean it is unsafe. It is that combination

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of big specific type of cladding and is the Civic type of installation

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construction industry and the Government concerned about. There

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are concerns about this specific combination. 60 buildings across

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England is not an unsubstantial number. Yesterday, there was more

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news about the police investigation. This came back yesterday afternoon

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for that there are reasonable grounds to suspect corporate

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manslaughter offences. This is a relatively new law. This only came

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in in 2008. That means it is a criminal offence to cause death by

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negligence if you are an organisation or a company. They will

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presumably be wanting to question executives from both the council and

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the TMO, the tenants Management organisations are involved in

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running the block at the time it can lead to large fines. It does not

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mean because they are pursuing corporate manslaughter charges they

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can look at individual manslaughter charges further down the line. Back

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could presumably ends in prison time. The speculation is it will be

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much further along in the process. I know we will speak to you later on

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as the tests come out. The island of Lesbos is one

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of the main entry points for migrants fleeing wars

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in the middle east for Amongst the migrants that

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arrive their daily are people with extreme vulnerabilities,

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resulting from traumatic experiecnes in war torn countries

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like Syria and Iraq. Such people should in theory be

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entitled to be relocated to the mainland to get they support

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they need, but aid workers have told the BBC that hundreds of extremely

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vulnerable people are being kept on the island and are

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therefore being deprived Our correspondent Gavin Lee joins us

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from the island now. Tell us what the situation is like

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and the conditions the migrants are living in?

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On Lesbos there are 4000 migrants. Many have been waiting for a long

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time. Most migrants are waiting for an asylum application for the

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Syrians will be sent back to Turkey most likely. They are waiting for a

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legal decision. This is something different. What aid agencies are

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saying is, because of the fall of IS in parts of cracker in Mosul, a lot

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of victims, people who have fled to tension, male victims of torture,

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women sex slaves, they are here on the island. The

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protocol as they should be taken straight off to get primary care,

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psychiatric help, on the mainland. It is not happening. I have spent

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the last few days speaking to those who need the most help and finding

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out why they are still here. Rare footage from a place

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journalists are banned. It shows tents have been

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replaced by containers, a reflection of Europe's waiting

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room being made a little more long-term for the 4,000

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being held on the island. Most are destined to return

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to Turkey, to apply for asylum from there, as part of the EU's

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migration plan, but as they wait for a legal decision,

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violence, rioting and fires The camps are full and migrants,

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though small in number, The people arriving here

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in Lesbos are different now, because of the ripple effects

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of the conflicts in Iraq and Syria. Since so-called Islamic State

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started to lose ground, many who arrived in Greece have

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escaped attention, men tortured by tortured by IS fighters,

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women used as sex slaves. There is little support for them

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and it is worsening the problem You need to improve the health care

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that is given to these people. If they are vulnerable,

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they need to be recognised as such, and they need to move to somewhere

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where they can receive care. The reality is, there isn't this

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care here on the island, and they need to move

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to the mainland to receive it. Osama was once a Syrian policeman,

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but was caught by rebel groups He says he was regularly beaten

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and sexually abused his captors. I have so many marks of torture

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on my body, he tells me. I have been in captivity

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for three years. All this, he says, and I'm here now

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in this humiliation for one year. Another man from Mosul,

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who doesn't want to be identified, tells me he was held hostage

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by IS for more than a year. "I have been harmed here, I lost my

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money, passports, all stolen. Before this place, my wife spent six

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months in captivity too. She collapsed in

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the street yesterday. The Greek refugee policy is clear,

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that extremely vulnerable migrants should be taken off the island

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quickly for specialist Greek authorities claim they have

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been overwhelmed by cases and say I would at this point like to remind

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you that 30,000 people have come through this island since March

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2016, so there can be individual that may not have been

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processed as quickly. For the moment, those needing

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the most help are still waiting. And with more migrants arriving

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and the camp increasing, the vulnerable are left to cope

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in volatile, I have covered this crisis in Greece

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and Italy. The dynamic is different now. We have heard from some on the

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island for that everyone is agreed they have to come. You have the aid

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agencies and the EU saying those who need it most should be getting

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psychiatric treatment in Athens. The Greek government is working on it.

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It is about communication between them the aid agencies.

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We can speak now to Louise Roland-Gosselin in Athens.

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She's a representative of the charity Doctors

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Without Borders, and has recently been on Lesbos, from Lesbos

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itself we have volunteer Charlotte Bellis appearing alongside

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Wissam - a Syrian refugee and Steve Valdez-Symonds

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from Amnesty international is in the studio.

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Tell me where you off from and how you arrived in Lesbos. I am from

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Syria. Like everyone, I arrived here by vote for one year and five months

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ago. I have nothing yet. -- by boat. Which city were you are and what

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work conditions like? My city is named Hama. What were the conditions

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like? So bad. You can imagine a lot. Of course. You have been on Lesbos

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for nearly a year and a half. Where are you living on Lesbos? What are

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conditions like for you? The situation here is so bad. Everyone

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knows that. No one cared about anyone here. We don't have that.

:26:32.:26:37.

People are watching here in the UK and they may not be aware of how bad

:26:38.:26:45.

it is just explain to people. I don't know if I can explain enough.

:26:46.:26:51.

The situation here is so bad. We don't have enough support. The food

:26:52.:26:56.

is not good. Everything here is bad. Also, we need to wait for six

:26:57.:27:04.

months. We cannot go out from this island or do anything. I get

:27:05.:27:12.

nothing. They don't give us language or anything. Where is it that you

:27:13.:27:25.

want to go? For me, I want to go to Canada after London but I cannot,

:27:26.:27:30.

for sure. We can see and hear from the frustration in your voice, how

:27:31.:27:37.

challenging and frustrating this is for you. Charlotte is a volunteer.

:27:38.:27:42.

Are these stories you're hearing daily in and day out? One of the

:27:43.:27:47.

things, I came here in June, what really surprised me, and I am a

:27:48.:27:50.

journalist from London, I thought there would be isolated cases of

:27:51.:27:58.

vulnerability, I might bump into the person who had been tortured but at

:27:59.:28:05.

least 90% of the people I talk to have been tortured, held in prisons,

:28:06.:28:13.

had family neighbours murdered. His other brother is also here and was

:28:14.:28:21.

tortured for three years. He was tortured for a couple of weeks

:28:22.:28:25.

trying to escape from Syria. I don't know how you decide. Everybody has

:28:26.:28:36.

stories. Have you been offered any support within the camp for the

:28:37.:28:40.

trauma that you and your brothers have suffered? Nothing in here.

:28:41.:28:47.

Nothing in. We get support but it is not enough. Wasam's the suffers from

:28:48.:28:56.

severe mental health issues. Hama is staying close to him here, trying to

:28:57.:29:06.

support him. -- Wasam. He has attempted to take his life multiple

:29:07.:29:14.

times in the past year. Essentially, if Wasam was not here, his brother

:29:15.:29:24.

would be affected. Louise quit you have recently been in Lesbos. Is

:29:25.:29:30.

there any support at all available for people like Wasam in these

:29:31.:29:37.

camps? I was there again this week. In theory there is, on paper there

:29:38.:29:43.

is. There are two health organisations in the camp. The

:29:44.:29:45.

reality is the number of people on the island has increased and the

:29:46.:29:52.

capacity has decreased. We have a clinic outside the camp. We are

:29:53.:29:58.

trying to provide health support as well as treating victims of torture

:29:59.:30:02.

and sexual violence. We have a waiting list of over 100 people. The

:30:03.:30:08.

level of trauma is so important. 20% of our mental health patients are

:30:09.:30:18.

victims of torture. Women who come for gynaecological services suffer

:30:19.:30:26.

sexual abuse. We are doing the best we can to meet the demands. Do you

:30:27.:30:29.

think the Greek authorities are doing enough to help people on

:30:30.:30:33.

Lesbos question at them and to be transferred to the mainland.

:30:34.:30:38.

It has to be recognised Europe as a whole isn't doing enough. Europe is

:30:39.:30:44.

basely imposed upon Greece the obligation of essentially managing

:30:45.:30:48.

the deal that European countries struck with Turkey, which is

:30:49.:30:52.

designed to essentially try and send back people who have come to those

:30:53.:30:56.

Greek Islands to Turkey on the ridiculous suggestion that Turkey is

:30:57.:31:01.

safe for them. That has introduced, as it happens, a whole new

:31:02.:31:06.

bureaucratic additional system that Greeks are trying to now manage

:31:07.:31:10.

before people can even get into their asylum system to have their

:31:11.:31:13.

asylum claims dealt with when, as happens in many, many cases, it's

:31:14.:31:18.

determined that no Turkey is not safe for them. Unfortunately, a

:31:19.:31:21.

system in Greece that was already not working long before we had these

:31:22.:31:28.

events in 2015-16 and still carrying on, which is now under enormous

:31:29.:31:32.

pressure and made under increased pressure by this ridiculous deal

:31:33.:31:35.

which is not safe for people and is trapping people, as you see, in

:31:36.:31:38.

hopeless conditions on these Islands. It was the EU who paid

:31:39.:31:45.

Turkey to take these people back and process them effectively because

:31:46.:31:48.

it's a political hot potato in Europe across Europe, the sheer

:31:49.:31:53.

numbers of people that have been arriving and questions over whether

:31:54.:31:56.

they are people who have genuine asylum claims or whether they are

:31:57.:32:01.

economic migrants coming from maybe Africa and other places. What is it

:32:02.:32:04.

you want to see the authorities, whether it's the Greek authorities

:32:05.:32:09.

or wider across Europe do to help people? Let's not forget a country

:32:10.:32:15.

like Uganda has received more than a million people fleeing a conflict in

:32:16.:32:18.

South Sudan in the space of less than a year. Yes, it's struggling,

:32:19.:32:22.

but its borders are still open and it is processing people and is

:32:23.:32:27.

supporting people. Europe is a huge wealthy part of the world with

:32:28.:32:32.

enormous resources. It is dealing with comparatively few people

:32:33.:32:35.

compared to other places elsewhere. We know that many of the people who

:32:36.:32:41.

fled to these Greek Islands are coming from places as just described

:32:42.:32:44.

where their lives are plainly at risk. Thank you all for speaking to

:32:45.:32:48.

us today. If you have any thoughts on this get in touch with us.

:32:49.:32:53.

The parents of a 21-year-old woman who died after taking weight loss

:32:54.:32:58.

pills have told this programme the substances should be banned.

:32:59.:33:04.

Beth Shipsey died in February after taking highly toxic,

:33:05.:33:07.

fat-burning pills that her parents believe she bought online.

:33:08.:33:09.

They'll be with us just after the news.

:33:10.:33:12.

A bad week for President Trump just got a lot worse as his plans to get

:33:13.:33:17.

rid of parts of President Obama's health care reforms

:33:18.:33:19.

are rejected by the Senate - the third time Trump's agenda has

:33:20.:33:22.

And on top of that there's the vicious rivalry

:33:23.:33:27.

We'll be live in the States in about 15 minutes.

:33:28.:33:45.

At least 60 high rice buildings that used insulation and cladding similar

:33:46.:33:51.

to Grenfell have failed a new fire safety test. The tests saw the

:33:52.:33:54.

materials analysed together for the first time. The only buildings

:33:55.:33:58.

identified so far are nine council blocks in Salford in Greater

:33:59.:34:01.

Manchester where the local council is asking for help from central

:34:02.:34:05.

Government to meet the cost ofs replacements. Ministers will publish

:34:06.:34:09.

the full findings from these tests later this morning.

:34:10.:34:15.

Pakistan's Prime Minister has resigned after the country's Supreme

:34:16.:34:19.

Court unanimously ruled that he should be disqualified over

:34:20.:34:23.

corruption allegations. The ruling follows accusations relating to the

:34:24.:34:28.

Panama papers published two years ago in which his three children were

:34:29.:34:31.

implicated. He and his family deny any wrongdoing.

:34:32.:34:34.

40 people have been injured, one seriously, after a commuter

:34:35.:34:37.

At least 18 people have been taken to hospital.

:34:38.:34:42.

Philip Hammond has said there's broad agreement in Cabinet

:34:43.:34:47.

that there should be a transition period of up to three years

:34:48.:34:50.

after Brexit but it should be concluded before the next election

:34:51.:34:53.

The Chancellor said a failure to implement a transition deal

:34:54.:34:58.

would sow chaos for business and that it was in the interests

:34:59.:35:01.

of the EU and Britain to have a transition that allows

:35:02.:35:04.

Donald Trump has suffered a defeat on one of his key campaign pledges

:35:05.:35:12.

A number of republicans, including former president

:35:13.:35:16.

presidential nominee, John McCain, voted against a bill

:35:17.:35:18.

which would have repealed the healthcare law passed by former

:35:19.:35:20.

The bill was rejected in a dramatic, late-night vote by fifty-one

:35:21.:35:31.

The Republican Party's leader in the Senate described

:35:32.:35:36.

England are through to the quarter finals of the Women's European

:35:37.:35:51.

Championship with three wins out of three.

:35:52.:35:53.

The 100% record maintained thanks to a 2-1 win over Portugal.

:35:54.:35:56.

But they've conceded for the first time in the tournament.

:35:57.:36:00.

Scotland just missed out despite a 1-0 win over Spain.

:36:01.:36:06.

Everton have a 1-0 lead after the first leg

:36:07.:36:09.

of their Europa League qualifier against Slovakian side Ruzomberok.

:36:10.:36:12.

Leighton Baines with the winner on what was Wayne Rooney's first

:36:13.:36:15.

Alistair Cook will resume on 82 not out after helping

:36:16.:36:23.

to keep South Africa at bay on a rain-shortened first day

:36:24.:36:26.

And this is the first race of the card at

:36:27.:36:32.

Everyone thought it was won by a horse called Mandarin Princess.

:36:33.:36:36.

But it was a case of mistaken identity.

:36:37.:36:37.

That's actually the two year old's stablemate Millie's Kiss.

:36:38.:36:40.

And the trainer only realised afterwards.

:36:41.:36:48.

How easy is it to buy deadly diet pills?

:36:49.:36:50.

Tragically for one young woman too easy.

:36:51.:36:55.

21-year-old Beth Shipsey had an eating disorder and believed

:36:56.:36:59.

that the toxic drugs would lead to easy weight loss.

:37:00.:37:03.

She passed away in February after taking DNP tablets -

:37:04.:37:06.

which burn fat and can be highly toxic.

:37:07.:37:09.

They are illegal but her parents believe she bought them online.

:37:10.:37:12.

Five months after her daughter's death, her mother Carol says

:37:13.:37:15.

she is shocked at the lack of awareness surrounding the dangers

:37:16.:37:18.

of diet pills and how widely available they are -

:37:19.:37:21.

especially as they have been the cause of several

:37:22.:37:23.

Let's start by showing you a video Beth's 24-year-old brother Tom made

:37:24.:37:27.

# Brother and sister, together we'll make it through.

:37:28.:37:40.

# Someday a spirit will take you and guide you there.

:37:41.:37:45.

# But I've been waiting to be there for you.

:37:46.:37:54.

# And I'll be there just helping you out.

:37:55.:37:58.

# I need a miracle, hurry up now, I need a miracle.

:37:59.:38:05.

# I say your name but you're not around.

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# I need you, I need you, I need you right now.

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Watching that moving tribute to Beth Shipsey

:38:20.:38:23.

with me was her mother, Carol Shipsey and Beth's

:38:24.:38:26.

Also here is Tom Quinn, from the UK's leading eating

:38:27.:38:29.

Is that hard to watch, or is it a comfort? A bit of both, I think

:38:30.:38:45.

really. You know, obviously, it's nice to see her again in life but

:38:46.:38:51.

also equally really sad. Tell me a little bit about your daughter. She

:38:52.:38:56.

just, her world was animals really. Yeah, she rescued over 100 animals.

:38:57.:39:01.

Wow, what sort of animals. Everything and anything. One time I

:39:02.:39:05.

had 40 rabbits in the garden, yeah. Did you like that, Doug, happy with

:39:06.:39:12.

that? Not at all, no. Kissed goodbye to the lawn. A Shetland pony in the

:39:13.:39:17.

garden. She travelled the world really and on some of overseas trips

:39:18.:39:22.

that venture ended up not in a holiday but a venture to rescue

:39:23.:39:27.

local animals and she rescued four Greek dogs with our financial

:39:28.:39:33.

support. We have one at home still. She had a huge heart, but clearly

:39:34.:39:38.

she had issues. At what point did you realise weight was a problem for

:39:39.:39:46.

her? Well, unfortunately for Bethany, she had a boyfriend that,

:39:47.:39:50.

there was sexual abuse within the relationship and he got sent to

:39:51.:39:55.

prison last year for raping Bethany and the abuse was over quite a long

:39:56.:40:00.

period of time and Beth's mental health deteriorated during that

:40:01.:40:05.

time. And that's when the eating disorders first manifested itself.

:40:06.:40:08.

Did you know Doug she was using these diet pills? I had no idea at

:40:09.:40:14.

all. I didn't even know what these diet pills were or even existed

:40:15.:40:21.

until literally a couple of days before she died because we were at a

:40:22.:40:27.

review meeting on the mental health ward where they said they found some

:40:28.:40:30.

of of the pills and confiscated them. From her? From her on the

:40:31.:40:34.

ward, yeah, on the mental health ward which we thought was the

:40:35.:40:39.

entirety of the pills, we didn't realise actually she had stashed

:40:40.:40:45.

more in her bedroom at home. And DNP is illegal and highly dangerous. It

:40:46.:40:52.

is. I mean, going back, I think it's important for me to say that Beth

:40:53.:40:56.

was in and hospital frequently, she came home for home leave often to

:40:57.:41:00.

attend to the animals. A few weeks before I had found a pack of pills

:41:01.:41:06.

in her bedroom and I did address it with her and say what are these

:41:07.:41:11.

pills? She said, they're just herbal diet pills. I had no reason to

:41:12.:41:16.

believe they were just herbal diet pills, because we have other

:41:17.:41:19.

daughters and they had bought diet pills from a health shop which were

:41:20.:41:26.

herbal, so, and she did say at that point she purchased him for somebody

:41:27.:41:29.

she met on the internet and bought them on the internet and she had

:41:30.:41:33.

taken them for a week and felt unwell taking them and she wasn't

:41:34.:41:38.

going to bother any way and was going to throw them away, dispose of

:41:39.:41:41.

them down the toilet as something like that, we had no reason to

:41:42.:41:47.

believe that she hadn't done that until my husband said we went to the

:41:48.:41:52.

meeting the day before she died on the mental health ward where they

:41:53.:41:56.

disclosed she had found the pills in her possession the day before. What

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happened on the day she died? Well, she came home for a home visit to

:42:03.:42:06.

tend to the animals, of which, I mean, at that point we still had 60

:42:07.:42:11.

animals at home. We have got a shed and an outdoor enclosure and in the

:42:12.:42:18.

shed we have many little furies and Doug brought her home about 3pm that

:42:19.:42:22.

afternoon, I was actually at work and set up the shed, the Hoover and

:42:23.:42:26.

the steamer and everything like you do, made her a cup of tea and went

:42:27.:42:30.

off to work and our son Thomas was in the house at the time but in a

:42:31.:42:34.

different room and that sort of like normal practice, you would have a

:42:35.:42:38.

drink, cup of tea, catch up on TV and then tend to animals before

:42:39.:42:42.

going back to the ward. But on that particular day what was different

:42:43.:42:48.

was our son was about to go to work and the doorbell rang and he was

:42:49.:42:55.

confronted by two paramedics and Bethany had taken some pills,

:42:56.:43:02.

spontaneously, and contacted somebody on Facebook who alerted the

:43:03.:43:06.

emergency services because they were concerned what she had taken. And

:43:07.:43:10.

then she obviously went into hospital. Within an hour of taking

:43:11.:43:15.

the pills. And died soon after? She died, she was in the A department,

:43:16.:43:19.

it was approximately three-and-a-half to four hours

:43:20.:43:25.

before she had a cardiac arrest and obviously she died that night, yeah.

:43:26.:43:29.

I want to bring Tom in to talk about diet pills. How widely available are

:43:30.:43:34.

they and there is a huge range of them. There are a huge range, some

:43:35.:43:38.

are illegal, some are not. They're all potentially very, very Danning

:43:39.:43:43.

rows. Unfortunately, we hear very frequently from people contacting

:43:44.:43:47.

our helpline that they are struggling with diet pills, I think

:43:48.:43:50.

the fact that individuals are prepared to take pills that could be

:43:51.:43:56.

extremely dangerous shows how serious eating disorders are, what

:43:57.:43:59.

we say to people worried about themselves or a family member is get

:44:00.:44:05.

help quickly, before the illness gets too serious. You didn't know

:44:06.:44:09.

she was using these diet pills as you said, you also found out that

:44:10.:44:14.

she was in chat rooms where people were encouraging her. That's right.

:44:15.:44:20.

I mean, obviously social media, that's the main way of communicating

:44:21.:44:26.

these days, particularly with younger people, and I knew that she

:44:27.:44:31.

chatted to people online but it was only after her death that - we were

:44:32.:44:37.

both horrified to learn of what extent those conversations went in

:44:38.:44:43.

encouraging her to actually buy DNP and also not only that, to - she was

:44:44.:44:50.

taking laxatives and I didn't know at the time but she was also taking

:44:51.:44:59.

Sudofed a lot too, apparently to lose weight and just, you know,

:45:00.:45:06.

reinforced Bethany's sort of negativity around her own body image

:45:07.:45:10.

and was an implement really to nournl her to continue on that path

:45:11.:45:14.

-- encourage her to continue on that path to self-destruct really. Do you

:45:15.:45:16.

hear that a lot at the charity? We do. This is fundamentally a

:45:17.:45:28.

serious mental illness. The owners can take over if it is left to

:45:29.:45:34.

route. It is important that family members and friends are able to spot

:45:35.:45:38.

some of the early signs that might appear before weight change for that

:45:39.:45:43.

they might be changes of mood, perhaps becoming socially withdrawn.

:45:44.:45:48.

Acting strangely around mealtimes, perhaps over exercising. It is

:45:49.:45:52.

important we are all aware of some of the early signs we can make sure

:45:53.:45:56.

people get the help they need. People watching probably be amazed

:45:57.:46:05.

that legal -- illegal pills are so easy for someone to buy online.

:46:06.:46:10.

People are prosecuted for this but we would support anything that can

:46:11.:46:14.

be done to stop people being able to get hold of these pills and would

:46:15.:46:19.

want to speak to anyone out there who is struggling with an eating

:46:20.:46:24.

disorder and considering taking another harmful diet pill. Please

:46:25.:46:29.

think again. The risks really are not worth it. What do you want to

:46:30.:46:34.

see happening? Do you think there needs to be tighter regulation.

:46:35.:46:38.

People are still managing to get hold of them, like best. I deal with

:46:39.:46:45.

some chemicals. There are certain systems in place for registering

:46:46.:46:50.

chemicals and some of the more toxic chemicals would tend to be licensed.

:46:51.:46:57.

I do not see this as a material that could be classified, like legal mark

:46:58.:47:01.

optics, etc, because then that would be legal to buy. If there were

:47:02.:47:05.

licensing controls put on the substance itself, at least it would

:47:06.:47:17.

restrict the ability for these unscrupulous people who put these

:47:18.:47:20.

into Capitals and sell on the internet it would restrict their

:47:21.:47:24.

ability to obtain this material. If it were licensed, you would have to

:47:25.:47:29.

apply for a licence, to produce the material can sell it, handle it, for

:47:30.:47:35.

someone to buy it and use it. I know you are a nurse, do you think the

:47:36.:47:39.

medical profession as a whole knows enough about the diet pills and the

:47:40.:47:50.

dangers of them? Not at all. As has already been discussed, they are

:47:51.:47:51.

widely used. Our particular experience with our daughter is the

:47:52.:47:57.

fact that people were not aware of the severity of the toxic effects of

:47:58.:48:04.

that particular drug. That is shocking really. I do feel there

:48:05.:48:10.

needs to be improved communication and that information is disseminated

:48:11.:48:14.

around within the medical profession. So, if, unfortunately,

:48:15.:48:20.

the person arrives in an emergency department with a more proactive in

:48:21.:48:24.

their response. If any parents are watching this he might have concerns

:48:25.:48:28.

about their son or daughter using diet pills, what would you say to

:48:29.:48:35.

them? I think you need to take it seriously is very easy with young

:48:36.:48:42.

people with the complexities of being a young person, to dismiss any

:48:43.:48:47.

concerns about their weight and see it as a trivial issue. It is about

:48:48.:48:54.

how you go about challenging a young person on it? It is difficult.

:48:55.:49:00.

Bethany felt she was not listened to. As I say, the unhealthy

:49:01.:49:06.

relationship with food, it was about two years. Like you say, excessive

:49:07.:49:19.

exercise. She was a very slim girl. It is not about BMI, it is about the

:49:20.:49:22.

unhealthy relationship with food. Many would say she looked OK,

:49:23.:49:29.

whatever that implies they only see eating disorders in people who are

:49:30.:49:33.

severely underweight or people who are equally overweight. It is not

:49:34.:49:41.

about BMI, it is about that relationship with food. Getting

:49:42.:49:45.

support with a recognised group of people who can really support you

:49:46.:49:50.

and give advice on what you can do if you are concerned. Thank you for

:49:51.:49:54.

coming in. Is Venezuela heading

:49:55.:49:55.

for a civil war? After months of unrest,

:49:56.:49:58.

the Government says it will ban protests that could disturb

:49:59.:50:01.

or affect Sunday's controversial election

:50:02.:50:02.

for a new constituent Assembly. This time last week

:50:03.:50:06.

Sean Spicer resigned as White House's press secretary -

:50:07.:50:09.

bringing an end to a chaotic six months as the public face

:50:10.:50:13.

of Donald Trump's administration. However, over the last seven days

:50:14.:50:22.

the controversy has continued. On Wednesday, President Trump

:50:23.:50:24.

announced a ban on transgender people serving in the US military

:50:25.:50:30.

but now military officials say that In the last few hours,

:50:31.:50:33.

the US Senate has rejected plans to repeal President Obama's

:50:34.:50:37.

healthcare reforms - delivering a major blow

:50:38.:50:38.

to President Trump. His new communications director

:50:39.:50:48.

Anthony Scaramucci has launched a strongly-worded attack

:50:49.:50:51.

on the White House chief Well I put out a tweet they are all

:50:52.:51:15.

making the assumption because journalists know who the leakers

:51:16.:51:22.

are. If he wants to explain here is not a bleaker, let him do that.

:51:23.:51:27.

But President Trump supporters argue he's more popular than ever.

:51:28.:51:29.

Sean Spicer's replacement - Sarah Sanders - has even taken some

:51:30.:51:32.

time out of a press conference to read a letter from

:51:33.:51:35.

a nine-year-boy called Dylan, who wanted to defend the American

:51:36.:51:37.

To remind us a little more often about some of the forgotten men,

:51:38.:51:41.

women and children that we're here to serve and that

:51:42.:51:43.

We are going to start the White House briefing

:51:44.:51:52.

every once in awhile with a letter or an e-mail

:51:53.:51:54.

that we may receive from some of those individuals.

:51:55.:51:56.

To kick it off with that process, I would like to read you a letter

:51:57.:52:00.

"My name is Dylan Harbin, but everyone calls me Pickle.

:52:01.:52:03.

I am nine years old and you're my favourite president.

:52:04.:52:06.

I like you so much that I had a birthday about you.

:52:07.:52:09.

Then Dylan goes on to ask a few questions.

:52:10.:52:13.

Dylan, President Trump is 71 years old.

:52:14.:52:16.

The White House is 168 feet long, it is 70 feet tall on the south

:52:17.:52:23.

side, it is 60' 4" on the north and it takes 300 gallons

:52:24.:52:26.

of white paint to cover the exterior of the White House residence.

:52:27.:52:29.

It has 132 rooms and approximately 55,000 square feet.

:52:30.:52:34.

Dylan, I am not sure, but I know it's a lot!

:52:35.:52:41.

"I don't know why people don't like you."

:52:42.:52:44.

"You seem really nice, can we be friends?"

:52:45.:52:48.

I am happy to say that I directly spoke to the President, Dylan,

:52:49.:52:52.

he would be more than happy to be your friend.

:52:53.:52:54.

"My picture is in here, so if you can, see me and say hello."

:52:55.:52:57.

Dylan, I hope you're watching because the President personally

:52:58.:53:00.

Dylan, thanks for writing to the President, and if you

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are ever in Washington, DC, I hope you will stop by and let

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We can speak now to Steve Gruber, a talk radio host and Trump

:53:11.:53:26.

supporter in Michigan, and Alana Horowitz Satlin,

:53:27.:53:28.

assignment editor at the Huffington Post.

:53:29.:53:30.

Do you think it has been a good week for President Trump? A lot going on

:53:31.:53:42.

as always. It has been a mixed week for the president. He has some

:53:43.:53:50.

positive news. I think Sarah Huckabee Sanders is a fine

:53:51.:53:55.

replacement. Sean Spicer was never well matched to that job. From day

:53:56.:54:00.

one when he came out of government, a big turmoil with the press. He got

:54:01.:54:06.

into an argument with the press. The podium was too tall. He looked like

:54:07.:54:11.

a short, angry man. He never really recovered. Sarah Huckabee Sanders

:54:12.:54:18.

has credibility. She is unflappable and has some humour. She is direct

:54:19.:54:23.

and has the President's back for that she has been rock solid. A

:54:24.:54:28.

mixed week for the president. He injects himself into the

:54:29.:54:32.

conversation like he did with the transgendered tweets. Suddenly it

:54:33.:54:37.

takes the forefront for a moment until the Senate Democrats failed to

:54:38.:54:42.

pass the Obamacare legislation. For journalists like myself and the

:54:43.:54:47.

youth, on the side of the pond, it is busy all the time with Donald

:54:48.:54:51.

Trump and his team in the White House. A mixed week. You look at the

:54:52.:54:57.

tweets from President Trump. During the presidential election, he was

:54:58.:55:02.

flying the flag for LGBT rights. He said if you are a member of the LGBT

:55:03.:55:07.

community, vote for me. Hillary Clinton will not look after you, I

:55:08.:55:12.

will. Suddenly he is saying no big complete ban of any transgendered

:55:13.:55:17.

people within the US military. Like I said, it was a surprisingly by the

:55:18.:55:23.

president. The Defence Secretary was out of the loop at the moment, not

:55:24.:55:29.

available to discuss. He had asked for six months to discuss it. As

:55:30.:55:34.

these things go, as you well know, it will take a bit of time. We now

:55:35.:55:40.

know what the president thinks on this one specific issue when it

:55:41.:55:44.

comes to transgendered people serving in the military. Steve says

:55:45.:55:47.

it has been a good week. Do you think it has been a good week? I

:55:48.:55:53.

would agree with President Trump. I think Sarah Sanders is miles ahead

:55:54.:55:57.

of Sean Spicer that she is articulate and charming. She is not

:55:58.:56:04.

brash. Where Spicer failed, I think sky meet she is failing in a

:56:05.:56:17.

different way? -- Scaramucci. Whether he is successful or not, he

:56:18.:56:22.

tried to take the views of Donald Trump and said he was not softening

:56:23.:56:31.

things he said. For better or worse, I agree they match the

:56:32.:56:39.

administration and the job better. He is not coming off well with the

:56:40.:56:44.

public. You read the article from the New Yorker and he is supposed to

:56:45.:56:49.

be the communications director. Frankly he is embarrassing the

:56:50.:56:52.

president by slagging off his chief of staff. Not just slagging off.

:56:53.:57:02.

There was lots of swearing going on, wanting to fire him. It was

:57:03.:57:06.

unbelievable. Here is the thing. People in Wisconsin just learned

:57:07.:57:14.

that Fox Khan will build iPads and iPhones in the centre of Wisconsin.

:57:15.:57:18.

They do not read the New Yorker. Even people in Michigan where he won

:57:19.:57:28.

by 10,000 votes, or Pennsylvania. These are issues. People in

:57:29.:57:31.

Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan do not care. They care about jobs.

:57:32.:57:40.

They care about the 8000 new jobs. Donald Trump has eliminated many

:57:41.:57:47.

regulations so far. People who are retired teachers and firefighters

:57:48.:57:50.

who had investments on Wall Street are very happy right now. They are

:57:51.:57:56.

also very happy that their houses are at the best prices they had been

:57:57.:58:01.

in 15 years. The give me for interrupting. You believe that Cork

:58:02.:58:06.

Donald Trump 's supporters, as long as the economy is good and jobs are

:58:07.:58:09.

coming, the president can say what he likes and his staff can say what

:58:10.:58:13.

they like because that is the elite having a chat and they are not

:58:14.:58:19.

interested. With all the Russia talks, people turn off. It becomes

:58:20.:58:24.

noise. They go to sleep and they move on. They think he is colourful

:58:25.:58:29.

and interesting. Sarah is better than Sean and people do not care. I

:58:30.:58:35.

can agree that people do not care about the power centric stuff. You

:58:36.:58:43.

have to admit. It is not true people do not care about Russia. People are

:58:44.:58:48.

concerned that also concerned about health care. People in Wisconsin are

:58:49.:58:52.

even supporters of Donald Trump, they are very concerned. His attempt

:58:53.:58:58.

to make about the care better and whatever, that fail. -- Obamacare or

:58:59.:59:14.

whatever, that fail. Millions of people would have lost their health

:59:15.:59:18.

insurance. Millions of people are going to lose their health care

:59:19.:59:25.

because Scaramucci will collapse. John McCain said that it will fail.

:59:26.:59:37.

-- because Obamacare will collapse. The Republicans have quite a long

:59:38.:59:42.

time to sort out and have not managed to do it. The Republicans

:59:43.:59:46.

have failed. They ought to be ashamed of themselves. They decided

:59:47.:59:53.

to lie to the people a couple of days ago. Thank you for speaking to

:59:54.:00:01.

us from Michigan. Thank you for coming in.

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Low pressure in charge of things. Today big showers out there. Here is

:00:11.:00:18.

Cumbria at the moment, heavy downpours, rainbows pictured there.

:00:19.:00:22.

Variable amounts of cloud, there is some sunshine further south through

:00:23.:00:25.

the Midlands, up towards Lincolnshire, for instance. For many

:00:26.:00:28.

of us a fairly unsettled day with low pressure sitting out to the

:00:29.:00:34.

north-west of the UK. Tightly spaced isobars too, an indication it will

:00:35.:00:37.

be breezy today, that breeze coming in from the south-west and importing

:00:38.:00:41.

some heavy showers. For much of Northern Ireland, Scotland and

:00:42.:00:44.

northern England heavy showers this morning. Also more cloud and

:00:45.:00:50.

outbreaks of rain working into the south-west of England and Wales this

:00:51.:00:55.

afternoon. For Scotland and Northern Ireland sunny spells and scattered

:00:56.:00:58.

showers, could be thunder. We are likely to see a dryer spell of

:00:59.:01:01.

weather across northern England for a time. Heavy rain heading in across

:01:02.:01:04.

parts of Wales, particularly heavy over the hills and around the

:01:05.:01:08.

coasts. For the south-west of England it's looking damp and breezy

:01:09.:01:12.

through the afternoon. Mostly dry further towards the south-east of

:01:13.:01:15.

England and East Anglia but we are going to keep that cloud and through

:01:16.:01:19.

this evening the rain in the west works further north and east across

:01:20.:01:24.

Wales and much of England too. Brisk winds, as well. The worst of that

:01:25.:01:28.

wet weather clears the south-east by the early hours of Saturday. Then

:01:29.:01:32.

still showers in the far north-west but many of us start the day on

:01:33.:01:36.

Saturday on a reasonably dry and bright note. We still have the

:01:37.:01:39.

unsettled theme. There is that weather front to the south-east that

:01:40.:01:44.

looks like it clears at least for a time and low pressure again to the

:01:45.:01:48.

north-west then. Blustery showers across north western parts of

:01:49.:01:50.

Scotland and Northern Ireland. England and Wales having a lot of

:01:51.:01:53.

dry weather. But you will notice this area of rain likely to creep in

:01:54.:01:57.

from the English channel affecting southern counties of England and

:01:58.:02:01.

perhaps up to East Anglia during the afternoon. Temperatures around 18-22

:02:02.:02:07.

or so. Sunday, another day of sunshine and showers. Some of the

:02:08.:02:10.

showers initially in the north and west, could be heavy, potentially

:02:11.:02:15.

thundery and the showers will drift further eastwards through the day.

:02:16.:02:18.

The far south-east probably avoiding them on Sunday. To summarise the

:02:19.:02:23.

weekend, rather cool and breezy and a mix of sunnier dryer spells of

:02:24.:02:27.

weather and also plenty of showers around too. You can check the latest

:02:28.:02:29.

forecast on our website. Sixty tower blocks fail

:02:30.:02:38.

new fire safety test - including 9 buildings owned

:02:39.:02:39.

by Salford council We'll be speaking to a fire safety expert

:02:40.:02:46.

in just a moment. New research shows drink ago few

:02:47.:02:54.

times a week reduces the risk of diabetes. Wine appears to be

:02:55.:02:59.

particularly beneficial but critics say consuming alcohol does

:03:00.:02:59.

contribute to other diseases. Is Venezuela heading

:03:00.:03:04.

for civil war? Anti-government protesters erect

:03:05.:03:05.

barriers and start fires in the capital ahead

:03:06.:03:08.

of a controversial vote to rewrite Here is the news in the newsroom

:03:09.:03:14.

with Ben. More materials were analysed

:03:15.:03:43.

together for the first time some of the far, nine of the buildings which

:03:44.:03:47.

failed have been identified. They're in Salford in Greater Manchester

:03:48.:03:50.

where the local council is asking for help from central Government to

:03:51.:03:54.

meet the cost of replacements. Ministers will publish the full test

:03:55.:03:57.

findings later While those touched by Grenfell wait

:03:58.:03:58.

for a full picture of how this fire spread, other residents

:03:59.:04:18.

in other towers are nervous, These blocks in Salford,

:04:19.:04:19.

nine of them, are among the 60 across England we understand will be

:04:20.:04:23.

declared a risk after failing The thought of you not being safe

:04:24.:04:26.

when you're sleeping in bed of a night-time, thinking

:04:27.:04:30.

that that's not safe, I don't care how much money it

:04:31.:04:32.

cost - it's not money, I think we're sitting on a tinderbox

:04:33.:04:39.

when you look at all the flats. Some of the cladding

:04:40.:04:42.

had already come down. In the first round of tests,

:04:43.:04:44.

panels from every building failed. After criticism that wasn't

:04:45.:04:48.

realistic, experts have now combined cladding and the installation fitted

:04:49.:04:50.

behind it to show which materials are dangerous when they're put

:04:51.:04:53.

together, like they were on Grenfell Yesterday, the police said

:04:54.:04:57.

there were reasonable grounds to suspect corporate manslaughter

:04:58.:05:04.

may have been committed by the council or the tenant

:05:05.:05:06.

management organisation. More than six weeks since Grenfell

:05:07.:05:12.

burned, the investigation is finding its focus

:05:13.:05:14.

while the reverberations reach right after the country's Supreme Court

:05:15.:05:17.

unanimously ruled that he should be disqualified over

:05:18.:05:39.

corruption allegations. The ruling follows accusations

:05:40.:05:40.

relating to the Panama Papers published two years ago,

:05:41.:05:42.

in which Mr Sharif's three He and his family

:05:43.:05:45.

deny any wrongdoing. The Chancellor said on the first day

:05:46.:06:01.

after leaving the block in March 2019 that many things will look

:06:02.:06:04.

similar and that it was in the interests of the EU and Britain to

:06:05.:06:08.

have a transition that allows the economies to adjust.

:06:09.:06:12.

Our job as we leave the European Union is to make sure that we can do

:06:13.:06:18.

this in a way that is smooth without disruption to people's everyday

:06:19.:06:21.

lives, without disrupting the supply chains of businesses that run across

:06:22.:06:27.

our borders and to then go through a process of moving from the current

:06:28.:06:32.

arrangements with the EU to our new future long-term arrangements with

:06:33.:06:35.

the EU and to do that in a smoother way as possible.

:06:36.:06:38.

40 people have been injured - one seriously - after a commuter

:06:39.:06:41.

At least 18 people have been taken to hospital.

:06:42.:06:57.

Four men have been arrested after they tried to make

:06:58.:06:59.

an explosive device at Cardiff prison.

:07:00.:07:02.

It came to light when a prison worker contacted a welsh

:07:03.:07:08.

Assembly Member, Bethan Jenkins with concerns about staffing.

:07:09.:07:16.

We were talking earlier to Carol and Doug Shipsey about their daughter.

:07:17.:07:23.

Lots of you getting in touch about that this morning. A tweet from

:07:24.:07:27.

India, a moving segment on eating disorders and Beth's life. I

:07:28.:07:30.

definitely think diet pills should be be banned. They are dangerous,

:07:31.:07:35.

not only physically, a tweet from Joe says of course diet pills should

:07:36.:07:39.

be banned. Completely unnecessary. And most of us don't know there

:07:40.:07:42.

isn't any proper advice out there so we don't know what to do. E-mail

:07:43.:07:47.

from Clare, I took pills from the internet and became depressed I

:07:48.:07:49.

wanted to die. They're horrible things. Keep your contributions

:07:50.:07:54.

coming throughout the morning. If you do text remember you will be

:07:55.:07:57.

charged at the standard network rate.

:07:58.:08:01.

Let's speak to Huw now for all the sport. Good morning.

:08:02.:08:06.

England's women will have to beat a team they haven't since 1974

:08:07.:08:09.

to reach the semi finals of the European Championships.

:08:10.:08:11.

They play France after making the last 8 in the Netherlands

:08:12.:08:14.

The Lionesses maintained their 100% record and finished top

:08:15.:08:19.

of their group thanks to a 2-1 win over Portugal.

:08:20.:08:22.

Toni Duggan and Nikita Parris with the goals.

:08:23.:08:24.

However, France have knocked them out of their last

:08:25.:08:26.

England's win meant that Scotland - in the same group -

:08:27.:08:34.

needed to beat Spain by two clear goals.

:08:35.:08:36.

Caroline Weir got some help from the Spanish goalkeeper

:08:37.:08:40.

to put her side ahead but Scotland just couldn't find that crucial

:08:41.:08:43.

second goal and exit their first major tournament at the group stage.

:08:44.:08:48.

In the Europa League qualifiers, Aberdeen hold a 2-1 lead over Cyprus

:08:49.:08:51.

side, Apollon Limassol, after the first leg.

:08:52.:08:54.

And Everton's Wayne Rooney received a hero's welcome in his first

:08:55.:08:58.

competitive game back at the club last night.

:08:59.:09:01.

He played the full 90 minutes at Goodison Park

:09:02.:09:03.

It was a scrappy game, settled only by Leighton Baines'

:09:04.:09:10.

The second leg takes place next Thursday.

:09:11.:09:14.

Alistair Cook will resume on 82 not out after helping

:09:15.:09:18.

to keep South Africa at bay on a rain-shortened first day

:09:19.:09:20.

Despite the interruptions it was an eventful opening

:09:21.:09:29.

Joe Root was one of the wickets to fall.

:09:30.:09:32.

He was caught behind brilliantly by Quinton de Kock for 29.

:09:33.:09:35.

While one of three England debutants, David Malan,

:09:36.:09:37.

But former captain Cook was at his gutsy best.

:09:38.:09:46.

First practice is under way at the Hungarian Grand Prix.

:09:47.:10:02.

Hamilton comes into the weekend just one

:10:03.:10:04.

point behind Sebastian Vettel in the drivers' standings having won

:10:05.:10:06.

The build-up to this weekend's race has been

:10:07.:10:17.

dominated by drivers' comments concerning the new protective halo

:10:18.:10:23.

Happy to implement any head protections for next year, if FAI

:10:24.:10:31.

study and develop the halo and this is the most effective way to protect

:10:32.:10:35.

the head of the drivers, it's more than welcome, in my opinion. I don't

:10:36.:10:39.

like it. But of course at the end of the day you have to respect the

:10:40.:10:46.

decision of the FAI, but I think since we introduced virtual safety

:10:47.:10:49.

car that reduced the risk when you are speeding under the yellow flag

:10:50.:10:55.

in the race and then also with the wheel, strong at the moment, I don't

:10:56.:10:59.

think you will lose a wheel easily and when there are parts flying

:11:00.:11:02.

around from the car it's not really going to protect you. So, I don't

:11:03.:11:08.

really understand why we should need it.

:11:09.:11:15.

Now why all the long at Great Yarmouth Races yesterday?

:11:16.:11:18.

Well, the winner of the first, Mandarin Princess, turned out to be

:11:19.:11:21.

a different horse after they did a routine microchip test

:11:22.:11:23.

Everyone thought this was Mandarin Princess, in blue,

:11:24.:11:26.

But it was actually her stable-mate, Millie's Kiss.

:11:27.:11:29.

Both were trained by Charlie McBride,

:11:30.:11:31.

The result stood for betting purposes.

:11:32.:11:51.

The test is seen as more thorough as more materials were analysed

:11:52.:11:56.

together for the first time. Our reporter Jim Reed has been covering

:11:57.:11:59.

the Grenfell tire from the first day. He is with us now. Exactly do

:12:00.:12:04.

the tests show us? We are still waiting for full details of these

:12:05.:12:08.

test results from the Government this morning, expected it later this

:12:09.:12:11.

morning. Let's talk you through what we are talking about here. If you

:12:12.:12:14.

look at the outside of Grenfell tower you get an idea of two things

:12:15.:12:18.

in particular to look out for, one are the cladding panels, you can see

:12:19.:12:21.

them on the bottom right of the screen. We have already had tests on

:12:22.:12:26.

those panels, they're metal, thin, about half a centimetre thick. We

:12:27.:12:29.

know those have failed fire safety tests. Some people in local

:12:30.:12:33.

Government, some in the construction industry say you have to go further

:12:34.:12:38.

and do a more comprehensive test on everything on the outside of the

:12:39.:12:42.

building and in particular one crucial things, which is this other

:12:43.:12:45.

area in the top left, that's the insulation that's behind the

:12:46.:12:49.

cladding. They say you have to test both these things together and the

:12:50.:12:54.

first results we are seeing of those today in particular. We are going to

:12:55.:12:58.

see more results throughout the day and more information. This is how we

:12:59.:13:01.

understand it at the moment. If you look at the tests they're doing, we

:13:02.:13:05.

have video pictures here. They're testing not just the chemical

:13:06.:13:09.

make-up of the panels but how the whole system performs in a fire.

:13:10.:13:13.

They set a fire underneath it and see how it responds to a serious

:13:14.:13:17.

fire. The Government have ordered six of these tests for different

:13:18.:13:21.

combinations of that cladding panel on the outside and the insulation on

:13:22.:13:26.

the inside. The first of those tests has failed. That's the same

:13:27.:13:30.

combination of cladding and insulation we believe they used on

:13:31.:13:33.

Grenfell tower and importantly we think there are 60 other buildings

:13:34.:13:36.

in England that have the same combination. Presumably they would

:13:37.:13:39.

have failed, as well. The next question is where are the buildings?

:13:40.:13:42.

That's hopefully what we are going to find out later. We don't know for

:13:43.:13:47.

sure. Only one council is affected, that's nine blocks in Salford. The

:13:48.:13:51.

other 51 of those 60 we don't know where they are. We think they're

:13:52.:13:56.

going to be private landlords or properties owned by housing

:13:57.:13:59.

associations as opposed to councils. Yesterday more news about the police

:14:00.:14:02.

investigation. That's right. This is really important. Late yesterday

:14:03.:14:06.

afternoon police now say there is reasonable grounds to suspect corps

:14:07.:14:10.

manslaughter offences, they've written to the council and the TMO,

:14:11.:14:16.

the tenant management organisation -- corporate manslaughter. They've

:14:17.:14:20.

written to both of those saying they suspect there is grounds for

:14:21.:14:23.

offences. Corporate manslaughter is a new offence. At least this form of

:14:24.:14:30.

it. It was only introduced in 2008. It's a criminal offence for an

:14:31.:14:33.

organisation to cause death by negligence. It's fairly difficult to

:14:34.:14:38.

prove. This is not individuals involved, this is organisations

:14:39.:14:41.

involved. We think senior executives from both the council and from the

:14:42.:14:45.

TMO are likely to be interviewed under caution about this offence. It

:14:46.:14:49.

could lead to large fines further down the road and it doesn't mean

:14:50.:14:55.

they couldn't also pursue individual manslaughter charges against people

:14:56.:14:58.

who may be responsible for this. We don't know that yet. We only know

:14:59.:15:01.

about corporate manslaughter offences the police have been

:15:02.:15:07.

talking about. Thank you. We can speak now to Arnold, a

:15:08.:15:14.

chartered surveyor and member of the association for specialist fire

:15:15.:15:18.

protection. First of all, are you surprised by what we learned so far?

:15:19.:15:24.

I'm not surprised. These blooms have been predicted since the early 80s.

:15:25.:15:33.

I was also talking about the fire risk and the risk of many people

:15:34.:15:39.

dying due to this form of cladding. Since the early 80s? Yes. Why are we

:15:40.:15:45.

in this position today? You will have to ask the advisers to

:15:46.:15:50.

government, the people responsible for building regulations, which

:15:51.:15:53.

leaves a complete and utter mess as far as my reading of the actual

:15:54.:16:00.

rules. Nothing has been done that is wrong. We are not just talking here

:16:01.:16:06.

about public buildings. We're not just talking about tower blocks in

:16:07.:16:11.

schools and hospitals, this goes way beyond that. It applies to all sorts

:16:12.:16:19.

of buildings. Not just this cladding for that there are many issues with

:16:20.:16:22.

fire safety and fire protection in buildings. Give us an example.

:16:23.:16:30.

Missing fire protection, a block in south-east London. Was looking at a

:16:31.:16:35.

leak in the roof. It was a stud wall and there was no fire protection.

:16:36.:16:40.

The power sockets were just plastic. I took one out and I could see next

:16:41.:16:47.

door. When we stripped and the single skim wall, the cavity wall

:16:48.:16:51.

with the external wall, I could see all the way down the whole length of

:16:52.:16:56.

the building stop one sheet of plasterboard each side. The party

:16:57.:17:01.

wall had two sheets of plasterboard. There was no fire protection on a

:17:02.:17:06.

block of buildings. This is widespread. We have problems with

:17:07.:17:16.

timber frame. That fire that occurred in the cavity was not

:17:17.:17:23.

mentioned. They did a fire test. It passed the one-hour fire test but it

:17:24.:17:28.

did not pass that there was fire in the cavity. That fire in the cavity

:17:29.:17:33.

is not in the Government report. Why not? Is this about council is trying

:17:34.:17:38.

to save money because they have less money or is it simply about the

:17:39.:17:44.

regulations not being stringent enough? The regulations are not

:17:45.:17:50.

stringent enough. Anybody will try to get value for money. It is

:17:51.:17:57.

developments and private owners. If a product passes building control

:17:58.:18:01.

requirements from the building regulations, you will use it. If you

:18:02.:18:10.

go to the BBA certificates, both PE and FC and interestingly the one for

:18:11.:18:14.

FES signed off by Sir Ken Knights who is on the panel. They fail the

:18:15.:18:21.

test in what they are now doing. It has been passed as fit for use on

:18:22.:18:27.

high-rise buildings can even by Sir Ken Knight. Thank you very much. In

:18:28.:18:29.

to us. The weekend is on the way,

:18:30.:18:32.

but could a drink of wine be just what the doctor

:18:33.:18:35.

ordered?New research shows that drinking alcohol a few times a week

:18:36.:18:38.

reduces the risk of diabetes. We'll speak to the lead scientist

:18:39.:18:41.

involved in that research and to the UK's leading

:18:42.:18:43.

diabetes charity. Venezuela will go to the polls this

:18:44.:18:49.

Sunday in one of the most controversial elections

:18:50.:18:52.

in the country's history. Some think the small South American

:18:53.:18:54.

nation is on the verge of civil war with droves of its 30 million strong

:18:55.:18:58.

population taking to the streets for four months in protest of widespread

:18:59.:19:01.

food and medicine shortages. They charge their President Nicholas

:19:02.:19:06.

Maduro with failing to manage the country's economy effectively,

:19:07.:19:09.

Some say he's turning the country into a dictatorship

:19:10.:19:12.

after imprisoning political opponents and killing

:19:13.:19:16.

over 100 protestors. In a moment we'll talk to some

:19:17.:19:20.

Venezuelan's living in the UK but first lets speak with BBC

:19:21.:19:22.

Journalist Vladimir Hernandez who has spent time with protestors

:19:23.:19:28.

in Venezuela's capital Caracas. Take us right back to basics. Where

:19:29.:19:43.

have the problems come from what other problems? The economy, it has

:19:44.:19:47.

the highest inflation in the world a lot of people are struggling to get

:19:48.:19:51.

five to buy food and medicines. 80% of the population said in a poll

:19:52.:19:56.

there were only eating twice a day. This is a country with one of the

:19:57.:20:00.

highest oil reserves in the world. The Government, earlier this year,

:20:01.:20:04.

tried to disband the national assembly or Congress, which is led

:20:05.:20:10.

by the opposition. The opposition it was the last remaining area of

:20:11.:20:14.

political dissent. That ticked off three months or more of protests

:20:15.:20:17.

from today. This is a desperate situation. There was a video on the

:20:18.:20:24.

BBC website of people chasing after bin lorries, family. Not just a few.

:20:25.:20:30.

People taking out bags of waste and feeding it to their children. This

:20:31.:20:36.

is such a desperate situation. Child malnourishment has gone up 30% in

:20:37.:20:41.

the last year. As soon as the figures went out, the Minister for

:20:42.:20:44.

health was sacked for revealing the figures from many people in many

:20:45.:20:48.

places telly they have never seen something like this before. The bin

:20:49.:20:54.

lorry pictures we have seen are only in the capital, in Caracas. Outside

:20:55.:20:57.

the rest of the country the situation is much worse by far. They

:20:58.:21:06.

think the Government has not fulfilled its responsibilities. The

:21:07.:21:09.

more the time passes, the worse the economy will get and they will get

:21:10.:21:13.

new leadership and the Government should listen. You have been

:21:14.:21:17.

spending some time with the protesters. Let's have a look.

:21:18.:21:20.

This group carries out this ritual before every

:21:21.:21:23.

After almost 100 deaths and thousands of arrests, no wonder

:21:24.:21:27.

Numerous Venezuelans have taken to the streets to ask

:21:28.:21:35.

President Maduro to call for fresh elections, due to severe food

:21:36.:21:39.

and medicine shortages but also against his plans

:21:40.:21:42.

On the front line of every protest there is a group of young men

:21:43.:21:49.

and women who call themselves the resistance, and they face

:21:50.:21:52.

the worst of the security forces, the heavy-handed response.

:21:53.:21:59.

This is what normally ends up happening, almost every day.

:22:00.:22:05.

For more than three months, protests end up in violent

:22:06.:22:08.

clashes where young men, young students, boys and girls,

:22:09.:22:11.

can end up injured, and some of them even killed.

:22:12.:22:16.

Many of the students in the resistance shy away

:22:17.:22:18.

from the media to avoid exposure, but a group of them has agreed

:22:19.:22:22.

In my day we were protesting against rising bus fares.

:22:23.:22:30.

Today, it's a rather more desperate story.

:22:31.:22:34.

We have concealed their identities and changed

:22:35.:22:36.

The way I see it, the resistance is everybody who is against a regime.

:22:37.:22:43.

Many people see it as a dictatorship, and if you look

:22:44.:22:46.

at what they're doing, that's what it is, really.

:22:47.:22:48.

At the moment, they are even trying to change our constitution,

:22:49.:22:51.

which is what all our ancestors fought for.

:22:52.:22:54.

I think the resistance is those people who come out to protest

:22:55.:22:57.

and were willing to take the lead to confront the police

:22:58.:23:00.

Many of the students I met told me they come from working class areas

:23:01.:23:06.

which have been specially hit hard by the economic collapse.

:23:07.:23:10.

But the Venezuelan government accuses them of staging a coup

:23:11.:23:13.

Some have labelled us as terrorists, but I think that all of us youth

:23:14.:23:20.

who make up the resistance are brave fighters.

:23:21.:23:22.

We are defending our people from the government's brutal repression.

:23:23.:23:32.

Venezuela state attorney Luisa Ortega Diaz has said

:23:33.:23:34.

that the government's actions can be called state terrorism.

:23:35.:23:37.

Thousands have been put in jail, some taken to military court,

:23:38.:23:40.

and others have still been held even after a judge ordered their release.

:23:41.:23:46.

I posed these issues to a Venezuelan high-ranking minister who gave

:23:47.:23:49.

He passed the responsibility back to the Attorney General.

:23:50.:23:58.

TRANSLATION: There've been more than 100 people

:23:59.:23:59.

killed in street protests, but out of these almost 20

:24:00.:24:04.

are National Guardsmen or policeman, killed

:24:05.:24:06.

Why has the Attorney General not made any comment about this?

:24:07.:24:14.

I wouldn't hesitate to say that Mrs Ortega Diaz is responsible

:24:15.:24:17.

through dereliction of duty for the deaths that have occurred

:24:18.:24:19.

As the death toll rises, the protests in Caracas are now

:24:20.:24:26.

increasingly followed by vigils like this one to remember the dead.

:24:27.:24:31.

For everyone in this city, the focus now is on Sunday.

:24:32.:24:36.

That's the date for a vote to elect a new assembly tasked with rewriting

:24:37.:24:39.

This is a country that has seen many of its younger people killed,

:24:40.:24:44.

People like these are commemorating the lives lost in this wave

:24:45.:24:49.

This is very much an open wound, and the consequences are far

:24:50.:24:55.

from known, regardless of who's going to run this nation.

:24:56.:25:01.

Vladimir Hernandez, BBC News, Caracas.

:25:02.:25:08.

Let's talk now to two Venezuelans living in London -

:25:09.:25:10.

Angela Fuguet, who runs a shop selling Venezuelan clothes -

:25:11.:25:19.

Alejandro Lovero who works in media, and, in Caracas, we can speak

:25:20.:25:22.

with local journalist Fabiola Ferrero.

:25:23.:25:25.

Thank you all for speaking to us today. First of all, tell us what

:25:26.:25:32.

conditions are like for your family back home in Venezuelan. I was kind

:25:33.:25:43.

of mixed up. My dad is a comedian, well over there. He has been

:25:44.:25:47.

experimenting and dealing with this situation as everyone. He gets more

:25:48.:25:55.

attention from the Government, draws more attention. It is difficult for

:25:56.:26:02.

him, trying to fight against it. Being part of the resistance as

:26:03.:26:08.

well. He tries to deliver the message from the people to the

:26:09.:26:12.

Government, against the Government, against what the Government is doing

:26:13.:26:15.

to the people. Is the Government cracking down on him? Yes. Since

:26:16.:26:21.

some time ago, a long way before this, shutting down. He is going to

:26:22.:26:27.

do the shows or whatever. My mother is a normal citizen. She is dealing

:26:28.:26:36.

with the rest of the situation that everyone else deals with. Have IQ?

:26:37.:26:46.

It has been very difficult. I have not been able to speak with my

:26:47.:26:51.

parents. -- how about you? The only way we can communicate is through

:26:52.:27:08.

WhatsApp or the occasional Facebook message. They do not often have

:27:09.:27:14.

electricity. Food is scarce. They find food at super inflated prices.

:27:15.:27:23.

Explain to people. If they go into a shop, is it empty shelves? Yes.

:27:24.:27:33.

Shelves are empty. If you find products, they have been ransacked

:27:34.:27:35.

from the shelves and they allow people to come in and buy them.

:27:36.:27:40.

There is a restriction on how many products you can buy and if you can

:27:41.:27:45.

find them. People buy things are necessary. If they can find them,

:27:46.:27:49.

they can stockpile them. It is a case of being able to afford it.

:27:50.:27:55.

Affordability is highly reduced because you are earning $10 a month

:27:56.:27:58.

and you are paying $20 for something. That is like one month

:27:59.:28:04.

and $10 and a product that can cost you between $6 and $10, to give you

:28:05.:28:11.

an idea. It does not matter where you come from. It does not matter

:28:12.:28:17.

whether you are rich or poor. Everyone is suffering from this. It

:28:18.:28:22.

is not... It does not just affect a certain part of the population. I

:28:23.:28:31.

want to bring you in. Give us a sense of what it is like on the

:28:32.:28:37.

streets. You are a few days away from the hugely controversial

:28:38.:28:42.

elections. Is it calm or are there protesters on the streets? Thank

:28:43.:28:45.

you. I'm very sorry to hear about the stories we have just heard from

:28:46.:28:53.

my fellow countrymen. The streets are not calm at all. It is true the

:28:54.:28:59.

protests are smaller at the moment. A lot of the reasons is because

:29:00.:29:04.

people are afraid there have been over 100 deaths. The number keeps

:29:05.:29:10.

increasing on a daily basis. Also there has been a change in the

:29:11.:29:13.

protesting. People are blocking their own streets to try to avoid

:29:14.:29:21.

people from walking the streets and blocking the whole city. This works

:29:22.:29:25.

mainly in the east part of the city. Also at night. You can see very

:29:26.:29:32.

violent confrontations between some protesters and the state security

:29:33.:29:37.

forces in some other areas of the cities. What the feeling is is you

:29:38.:29:44.

can see very high tension in the streets. Not only in the political

:29:45.:29:48.

sphere but also the regular citizen is living in a merry hostile

:29:49.:29:55.

situation right now. Explain why these elections on Sunday are so

:29:56.:30:00.

controversial. It is basically like a declaration of a dictatorship. It

:30:01.:30:05.

is not like they did not ask anyone, would you like us to do the election

:30:06.:30:09.

or a referendum? They are just going to do it. They are heading straight

:30:10.:30:15.

for them. The candidates are not people who have prepared with a

:30:16.:30:20.

proper background for the sector. The Government is just doing it,

:30:21.:30:25.

regardless of what the people think, or the whole country thinks. They

:30:26.:30:29.

did a popular presentation of seven and a half million people voting and

:30:30.:30:33.

signing against that and they just don't care. They think they own the

:30:34.:30:38.

country. That is what, among many other reasons, which has people

:30:39.:30:44.

protesting against the Government. It's not like we want something

:30:45.:30:50.

else. This has to stop. Thank you for coming in today and speaking to

:30:51.:30:51.

us. Could a glass of wine be the new way

:30:52.:30:54.

to fight against type 2 diabetes? Calls for prison staffing levels

:30:55.:31:03.

to be reviewed urgently after an explosive device was let

:31:04.:31:05.

off at HMP Cardiff. We'll be live in Wales

:31:06.:31:11.

in a few minutes' time. The BBC understands that at least 60

:31:12.:31:17.

high-rise buildings, which used insulation and cladding

:31:18.:31:21.

similar to Grenfell Tower, The test saw the materials analysed

:31:22.:31:25.

together for the first time. The only buildings identified so far

:31:26.:31:32.

are nine council blocks in Salford in Greater Manchester,

:31:33.:31:34.

where the local council is asking for help from central government

:31:35.:31:38.

to meet the cost of replacements. Ministers will publish the full test

:31:39.:31:42.

findings later this morning. Pakistan's Prime Minister

:31:43.:31:46.

Nawaz Sharif has resigned after the country's Supreme Court

:31:47.:31:50.

unanimously ruled that he should be disqualified over

:31:51.:31:52.

corruption allegations. The ruling follows accusations

:31:53.:31:55.

relating to the Panama Papers published two years ago,

:31:56.:31:59.

in which Mr Sharif's three He and his family

:32:00.:32:02.

deny any wrongdoing. Phillip Hammond, has said there's

:32:03.:32:05.

broad agreement in Cabinet that there should be a transition

:32:06.:32:07.

period of up to three years after Brexit -

:32:08.:32:10.

but it should be concluded before The Chancellor said a failure

:32:11.:32:13.

to implement a transition deal would sow chaos for business

:32:14.:32:21.

and that it was in the interests of the EU and Britain

:32:22.:32:24.

to have a transition that allows Donald Trump has suffered a defeat

:32:25.:32:27.

on one of his key campaign pledges A number of Republicans,

:32:28.:32:36.

including former presidential nominee John McCain,

:32:37.:32:39.

voted against a bill which would have repealed

:32:40.:32:41.

the healthcare law passed by former The bill was rejected in a dramatic,

:32:42.:32:43.

late-night vote by 51 votes to 49. The Republican Party's leader

:32:44.:32:59.

in the Senate described The same number of Russians serving

:33:00.:33:20.

in the United States. The Russian Government says it is seizing a

:33:21.:33:23.

compound and warehouse used by US diplomats. The move comes after the

:33:24.:33:27.

US Senate voted to place new sanctions on Russia.

:33:28.:33:37.

That's a summary of the latest news. We had head over to the sports

:33:38.:33:46.

centre. Daniel Ricciardo has finished

:33:47.:33:54.

fastest in his Red Bull. Lewis Hamilton was third quickest.

:33:55.:34:03.

Alistair Cook will resume on 82 not out after keeping South Africa at

:34:04.:34:08.

bay. It was shortened by the rain. England are through to the

:34:09.:34:12.

quarter-finals of the women's European Championship with three

:34:13.:34:16.

wins out of three. France come next for them. Scotland

:34:17.:34:22.

just missed out despite a 1-0 win over Spain. This is the first race

:34:23.:34:27.

of the card at Yarmouth races yesterday. Everyone thought it was

:34:28.:34:32.

won by Mandarin Princess. It was mistaken identity. That was the

:34:33.:34:38.

stable-mate Millie's Kiss. The trainer only realised afterwards.

:34:39.:34:39.

More in the next hour. People who drink alcohol three

:34:40.:34:44.

to four times a week are 30% less likely to develop type 2

:34:45.:34:46.

diabetes - than those That's according to researchers

:34:47.:34:49.

in Denmark, where more than 70,000 people took part

:34:50.:34:54.

in a health study that The UK's leading diabetes charity

:34:55.:34:56.

warns this isn't a green light Let's talk to the author

:34:57.:35:00.

of the research Professor Janne Tolstrup at the University

:35:01.:35:07.

of Southern Denmark in Copenhagen. First of all, a huge study this,

:35:08.:35:24.

70,000 people, and it found that red wine is particularly good for us. In

:35:25.:35:29.

fighting off type two diabetes, I should say. Well, yes, we did

:35:30.:35:35.

exploratory analysis on the type of alcohol. Actually our main resource,

:35:36.:35:40.

where we have largest strength of our study is the results in drinking

:35:41.:35:45.

frequency where we are comparing people who drink a certain amount of

:35:46.:35:51.

alcohol a week and we are studying if there are differences between

:35:52.:35:55.

those who - for instance if a man is on average drinking 14 units a week,

:35:56.:35:59.

is there a difference in his risk of diabetes, whether he drinks it all

:36:00.:36:05.

during one night or tends to spread it out on three or four days.

:36:06.:36:13.

Drinking alcohol in smaller proportions more frequently is

:36:14.:36:20.

associated with the lower risk as compared to drinking in only one

:36:21.:36:24.

portion. Binge drink something bad, no drinking isn't so great but

:36:25.:36:29.

drinking three or four times a week can stave off type two diabetes?

:36:30.:36:37.

Well, yeah, now in this study we looked at specifically diabetes, so

:36:38.:36:41.

I would definitely not go out saying to everybody they should drink three

:36:42.:36:47.

or four times a week because alcohol is associated with so many different

:36:48.:36:52.

diseases and what we studied here was only the risk of diabetes. So of

:36:53.:36:57.

course these results should not be used to advise people to go

:36:58.:37:02.

drinking. Dan, people watching this on Friday, might be having a smile

:37:03.:37:08.

to themselves, fantastic, I am going to have a beer, particularly if you

:37:09.:37:12.

are a man, I read. Glass of wine, that's good? It very much sounds

:37:13.:37:20.

like it, doesn't it. The... It is suggesting that there potentially is

:37:21.:37:23.

a need for more research in this area. We currently know that in

:37:24.:37:28.

order to prevent type two diabetes in the vast majority of people there

:37:29.:37:33.

is much more evidence and more sound evidence to suggest a healthy diet

:37:34.:37:40.

and physical activity. So it's not as probably fun or as interesting as

:37:41.:37:46.

going down to the pub to crack open a bottle of wine. There is a little

:37:47.:37:51.

bit of hard work associated with healthy diets and exercise. We know

:37:52.:37:58.

there is not really a quick win in preventing type two diabetes.

:37:59.:38:02.

Professor, I was reading, beer lowers your diabetes risk if you are

:38:03.:38:07.

a man but not a woman. Spirits made no difference. Yes. That is true. I

:38:08.:38:15.

must say that for instance beer among women was a bit difficult in

:38:16.:38:28.

our study because 70% taken was wine, we didn't have statistical

:38:29.:38:34.

power to study how beer affected the risk among women and only found that

:38:35.:38:40.

beer was associated with men. That may be because we didn't really have

:38:41.:38:49.

the data on beer in women. Do you know what it is in wine that is

:38:50.:38:55.

fighting the type two diabetes? No, we do not. Actually we interpret

:38:56.:39:03.

these results as it is most likely that it's the alcohol itself that

:39:04.:39:09.

has apparent beneficial effects. Actually when we started out our

:39:10.:39:20.

study there have been a number of studies that shows that... What we

:39:21.:39:26.

wanted to take that finding further to see if there was a difference and

:39:27.:39:32.

how you drink, what I mentioned before, with drinking frequency, it

:39:33.:39:38.

seems better to drink frequently than having smaller portions of

:39:39.:39:42.

alcohol. Dan, do you worry when stories like this come out that it

:39:43.:39:46.

sends out a wrong message? Absolutely. I think the problem is

:39:47.:39:53.

that the headline is drinking more reduces your diabetes risk and

:39:54.:39:57.

that's really, we can't change our current practice based on this one

:39:58.:40:01.

study alone. But it is a huge study, 70,000. Absolutely. It is a huge

:40:02.:40:05.

study, but there still needs to be a little more done into this area,

:40:06.:40:09.

really for us to understand the real reasons behind it. Type two diabetes

:40:10.:40:16.

is an traemly complex condition. Its prevention of it is just as complex

:40:17.:40:22.

as its management. So, while we look at, let's take the alcohol,

:40:23.:40:25.

potentially drinking too much alcohol will push your blood

:40:26.:40:28.

pressure up and having high blood pressure is also a risk factor for

:40:29.:40:32.

developing type two diabetes so it's very understandable for the general

:40:33.:40:36.

public to be confused in this area. So, the problem is we are looking at

:40:37.:40:40.

it in an isolated way and you need to look at it in the round.

:40:41.:40:44.

Absolutely, there are many factors that contribute to your risk of

:40:45.:40:49.

developing type two diabetes. We can't just take one of those.

:40:50.:40:54.

Ethnicity, age, even gender is going to have a contributing factor.

:40:55.:41:00.

Everything needs to be taken on a holistic approach really. If people

:41:01.:41:04.

are watching this, what would be your message to them, you have done

:41:05.:41:10.

this indepth research with a lot of people, a huge sample, would you say

:41:11.:41:13.

that you agree with what Dan is saying that we need to be careful

:41:14.:41:16.

about what message comes out from this? Sure. I absolutely agree. Also

:41:17.:41:22.

what we can see is still looking in isolation on diabetes, but the risk

:41:23.:41:29.

tends to go up again if you go above the level of moderate drinking, one

:41:30.:41:33.

or two drinks a day on average. I think that when it comes to

:41:34.:41:38.

recommendations about how should people act in terms of alcohol, we

:41:39.:41:43.

have the national guidelines in most countries at least and you should

:41:44.:41:47.

stick with them and they say something like it's OK to drink a

:41:48.:41:54.

bit in moderation and to avoid binge drinking and that's absolutely not

:41:55.:41:58.

changed from this study. Thank you for speaking to us.

:41:59.:42:04.

Four men have been arrested on suspicion of attempting to make

:42:05.:42:06.

an explosive device at Cardiff Prison.

:42:07.:42:08.

The incident came to light when a prison worker contacted

:42:09.:42:10.

a Welsh Assembly Member with concerns about the impact

:42:11.:42:12.

We're joined now from Cardiff by our reporter Kate Morgan.

:42:13.:42:17.

What do we know? Four men have been arrested after an explosive device

:42:18.:42:21.

was made at the prison last month. In June, there was a plastic bottle

:42:22.:42:28.

and it was filled with a clear liquid, and that erupted on the

:42:29.:42:33.

floor. No one was injured and no one was hurt. This is what the Prison

:42:34.:42:37.

Officers' Association says he knows about what happened. This was an

:42:38.:42:40.

incident that actually happened on 16th June where a prisoner was

:42:41.:42:44.

observed placing a plastic container under a stairwell. When he removed

:42:45.:42:48.

himself from that area the container exploded, there was no damage to

:42:49.:42:52.

property and no injuries to staff or prisoners. Apparently two prisoners

:42:53.:42:54.

got moved out of the establishment the next day. The police were in

:42:55.:43:00.

attendance and there is an internal and criminal investigation. It begs

:43:01.:43:04.

the question how did this get into a prison? Well, quite. One staff

:43:05.:43:10.

member was so concerned they got in touch with an Assembly member which

:43:11.:43:15.

is why we know what happened. They told Bethan Jenkins, she says this

:43:16.:43:22.

was made out of an everyday item, it happened to be flammable. Concern of

:43:23.:43:27.

the worker is how did this happen with prison staff and prison

:43:28.:43:30.

officers, they should be watching and know about this, there are

:43:31.:43:33.

concerns that staff shortages lead to this happening. It wasn't a huge

:43:34.:43:36.

explosion but the fact it could happen in the first place is what is

:43:37.:43:39.

really the concern here. Thank you. More migrants trying to get

:43:40.:43:44.

into the US illegally die in Brooks County than any other

:43:45.:43:47.

place in Texas. Brooks County is not

:43:48.:43:49.

on the border though, it is 65 miles north

:43:50.:43:51.

of the frontier. A Border Patrol checkpoint has

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created a 'second frontier' forcing illegal migrants to risk their lives

:43:57.:43:59.

by going around it. 550 bodies have been found

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in the hot desolate scrubland around the checkpoint in

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the last seven years. The BBC's Juan Paullier joins

:44:10.:44:11.

Don White, a volunteer Sheriff's Don is a volunteer and he's

:44:12.:44:13.

looking for migrants. More often than not,

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he only finds their remains. So you look for the paths

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that they trail and then you backtrack those to see

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if anybody has been left behind. This toothpaste was probably

:44:43.:44:50.

left behind by migrants hiding in these branches,

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and many of them die here. What is striking is that we are more

:44:53.:45:01.

than 100 kilometres north of the actual border with Mexico,

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and you can hear the cars We are on the outskirts of a town

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where a border patrol It is a major corridor

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used by people smugglers To circumvent the checkpoint,

:45:19.:45:22.

migrants are forced to walk through the surrounding brush

:45:23.:45:29.

for 40 kilometres. This is not the place where migrants

:45:30.:45:33.

expect to die, but they do. I am not worried about encountering

:45:34.:45:36.

the border crossers. I am worried about

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the drug smugglers. They are carrying armed,

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I want to make sure I can equal up. Don works with the Missing Migrant

:45:48.:45:55.

Initiative, a multi-agency project, Their aim, to recover

:45:56.:45:57.

those left behind. It is easy to get lost,

:45:58.:46:05.

and many migrants die More than 550 in

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the last seven years. He called it in and

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it was collected. The sheriff asked if I could do

:46:19.:46:25.

a follow-up search of the area Towards the rat mounds,

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and these were big rats. Towards the rat mounds and a huge

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cactus but we found several new bones, a cellphone,

:46:37.:46:42.

photo ID, so, that was Half an hour into our patrol,

:46:43.:46:45.

Don finds something. So that was dropped three

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or four months ago. Why does Don, who lives three hours

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away, often spend days here? Decades ago his niece

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was kidnapped and killed, and it took two months

:47:12.:47:13.

for her remains to be found. They have lost somebody

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in your family, and you don't know where they were lost,

:47:20.:47:23.

you don't know where they were at, you don't know if they are even

:47:24.:47:26.

buried, you have nothing you can bury, nothing that

:47:27.:47:29.

you can go and worship, nothing you can go visit, nothing

:47:30.:47:35.

you can put flowers on. So I guess that's why I do

:47:36.:47:38.

it, for the families It's hard to know how many people

:47:39.:47:52.

cross through this sector, but the local sheriff

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believes there are many What I would say is for

:47:58.:47:59.

everybody we recover, we would probably have

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five missing, OK. So that kind of tells you the number

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of bodies which are still out The search can be difficult

:48:07.:48:10.

since the land is privately owned, but some ranchers

:48:11.:48:14.

are trying to help. The ranchers probably have

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about $1 million of property damage as far as fencing and wells, water

:48:23.:48:24.

wells, whatever the issue might be, We do have some ranchers out

:48:25.:48:29.

there who have applied You utilise those ladders

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to go over the fence. But they don't do that,

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because they feel it's a trap. They feel it's a trap

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so they don't use those, Eddie Canales is also trying

:48:47.:48:48.

to prevent migrant deaths. For the past four years,

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he has been putting out water There is is, the water

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station right there. For him and his team,

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it's a continuous job. They had to dispense over 450 litres

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in the last two days. Many of the barrels were emptied

:49:17.:49:22.

and taken away by people who don't agree with his

:49:23.:49:24.

stance on immigration. Actually, most people see it

:49:25.:49:29.

as an important effort to try and save people,

:49:30.:49:31.

because nobody really I think in 2012 here,

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when they saw a body every day, or more, I think it hardened people

:49:36.:49:39.

but it also made them aware of the situation,

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so they support the effort. They don't want to see deaths

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continue in this county. 20 metres away from the tank,

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he finds something. Well, it's a woman's

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identification, from El Salvador. Well, it's somebody

:50:04.:50:05.

that was coming through here. He plans to take it and find out

:50:06.:50:13.

if someone is trying to find her. We'll see if there are any calls,

:50:14.:50:17.

if the consulate in El Salvador has received a missing

:50:18.:50:20.

person's report themselves. She may have died,

:50:21.:50:29.

she may have survived. The truth is, no one knows

:50:30.:50:31.

what happens to many of the people passing through this killing field

:50:32.:50:34.

on American soil. So after all the thrills and spills

:50:35.:50:45.

- not to mention all the lumps, Channel 4's sports reality TV

:50:46.:50:48.

show The Jump will be The broadcaster said

:50:49.:50:53.

the programme had been a "hugely successful brand",

:50:54.:50:58.

but won't be returning Last year's show was dogged

:50:59.:51:00.

by injuries, which resulted in seven Olympic gymnast Beth Tweddle needed

:51:01.:51:06.

neck surgery after fracturing two vertebrae, and gold medallist

:51:07.:51:10.

Rebecca Adlington dislocated her shoulder when she lost control

:51:11.:51:13.

and hurtled off a 100 metre icy With me now is the comedian

:51:14.:51:16.

Mark Dolan, who took part And in Surrey, TV

:51:17.:51:27.

presenter Laura Hamilton - she took part in the very first

:51:28.:51:30.

series in 2014, just I take my hat off to you for that.

:51:31.:51:43.

When you did the programme, what was it like you? I absolutely had the

:51:44.:51:51.

best experience. As you said, I had just had a baby. Four weeks after

:51:52.:51:57.

the birth of my son. The trainers are incredible, the best in the

:51:58.:52:02.

business. I love skiing. I had skied since I was a kid, I was nine. It

:52:03.:52:08.

was the most amazing experience with getting to learn the different

:52:09.:52:13.

disciplines. Speed skating, Bobsleigh. I loved it. How about

:52:14.:52:20.

you? Did you love it? I am out of plaster and have full movement back.

:52:21.:52:27.

I was very lucky. I had the usual knocks and scrapes you would

:52:28.:52:31.

probably have if you went on a skiing holiday. I was doing the

:52:32.:52:35.

parallel slalom race, essentially getting down the mountain as quickly

:52:36.:52:41.

as possible but via these flags. There was a lot of turning. At speed

:52:42.:52:47.

it is harder to turn. I tumbled a few times. At one point the ski came

:52:48.:52:52.

off and karate chop the back of another boot. Was nice the two days.

:52:53.:52:58.

I was not unscathed. The point of the show is it is hazardous. Winter

:52:59.:53:04.

sports are hazardous. All sport hazardous, especially if the bunch

:53:05.:53:11.

of retired sports stars and TV presenters do it. That is the cell

:53:12.:53:16.

of the show and why it ran for four series. Did you get injured? I did

:53:17.:53:24.

not. I got injured when I'm did Dancing On Ice I did not injure

:53:25.:53:33.

myself on The Jump. Where You Fully Briefed Both Of You On How Dangerous

:53:34.:53:40.

It Was? What could happen to you. Totally briefed. Safety, for me,

:53:41.:53:48.

James Abbott, the ski jumping coach is still a friend of mine. I

:53:49.:53:53.

actually see him abroad because he lives in the sun. They won't let you

:53:54.:53:59.

progress to the next jump until they really believe that you are capable

:54:00.:54:07.

enough to do it. There are constant checks. Unfortunately, I guess,

:54:08.:54:15.

accidents do happen and all sports are hazardous. You are fully made

:54:16.:54:20.

aware of how dangerous things are. You just have to read the contract

:54:21.:54:25.

which has the word death in it loads. It is very disheartening to

:54:26.:54:32.

you feel like you're signing your away. Channel 4 and the brilliant

:54:33.:54:39.

production company that makes the show is the studious about it. They

:54:40.:54:42.

are fastidious on the training site. I am not friends with the trainer.

:54:43.:54:51.

He was like the Grim Reaper. He was like, we're going to jump today and

:54:52.:54:56.

I would say, I don't think so. He would make me. The contracts are

:54:57.:55:02.

very detailed about everything that could happen. It was contacted and

:55:03.:55:08.

anticipated there were contingencies, including a life

:55:09.:55:12.

changing injuries. I am sure Laura is the same. No one is flippant

:55:13.:55:16.

about that. I am saddened by the injuries that did happen on the

:55:17.:55:22.

show. It is quite tragic in one or two cases. It is a trade-off you

:55:23.:55:28.

make when you are offered the show. I spent two weeks deliberating. In

:55:29.:55:35.

the end, I felt that I am 43, I am unfit. Unfortunately the weight has

:55:36.:55:42.

all gone back on. This would be a big adventure and it is a trade-off

:55:43.:55:44.

of a great experience versus some risk. Some serious big names were

:55:45.:55:50.

taking that risk, like Bradley Wiggins. I reckon presumably it is

:55:51.:55:57.

about the money as well, isn't it? I have just had a baby and I thought

:55:58.:56:02.

it was an amazing opportunity to lose baby weight. And get out of the

:56:03.:56:10.

house. I would never have left my baby behind. I was never in the

:56:11.:56:15.

show. I was a reserve. I only came into the show to replace the elves.

:56:16.:56:23.

For whatever reason they were not doing the show anymore. That is

:56:24.:56:27.

because someone else. I was like, amazing ex-commissioner I was able

:56:28.:56:31.

to ski for a month, doing something I love. I could lose some baby

:56:32.:56:38.

weight. I did not really read the contract. I'd just left that to my

:56:39.:56:45.

agent. Everything you do has a risk. I wanted to do it and I went for it.

:56:46.:56:52.

I use a prize that it is taking a rest? Some people suggesting the

:56:53.:56:59.

rest might be permanent. -- are you surprised? It was the most written

:57:00.:57:03.

about and talked about reality show partly because of the peril. Let's

:57:04.:57:08.

not gloss over the fact. Laura and I have both been very positive about

:57:09.:57:13.

the experience. I have never known terror like it. The very best thing

:57:14.:57:19.

about the programme, it is a credit to Channel 4 to have the courage to

:57:20.:57:24.

commission a thing. It was risky. They did it four times over. It is

:57:25.:57:31.

all real. A lot of TV is manufactured jeopardy. It is like

:57:32.:57:34.

getting to the top of a three story building and you slide down. I know

:57:35.:57:44.

no bounds. Thank you for talking to us, both of you. I have had this

:57:45.:57:51.

e-mail. I think you need to report more on the issues in Venezuela.

:57:52.:57:56.

There is so little food and almost no medicine. In a hospital or you

:57:57.:58:04.

getting food, you can be arrested. Thank you for getting in touch.

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