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I'm Chloe Tilley, standing in for Victoria.

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Will Government plans to recruit thousands more mental health workers

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in England over the next four years be enough to ensure patients

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I think the mistake that Health Secretary

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after Health Secretary after Health Secretary

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and governments have made that if you want to solve a problem

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you only have to put the money in, but actually you've

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We'll discuss the plans with campaigners, medical

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professionals and patients - and we want to hear your stories.

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Also this morning, ceremonies to mark the one-hundredth

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one of the bloodiest of the First World War.

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At this time 100 years ago today the Battle of Passchendaele had just

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begun. The offensive was under way, the first British and Commonwealth

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troops had already fallen. Today Prince Charles and the Duke and

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Duchess of Cambridge will be at Tyne Cot Cemetery, the biggest

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Commonwealth cemetery in the world, most of the fallen foul at

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Passchendaele. And pressure mounts on Channel 4

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to scrap a programme about Princess Diana featuring

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archive interviews in which she Welcome to the programme,

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we're live until 11 this morning. Waiting for GCSE or A Level results

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is nerve-wracking enough, without the added worry that some

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of the grades might be wrong. The exams regulator Ofqual

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is tightening up the rules for appeals this summer,

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but are they also doing enough to check the results

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are right in the first place? If you're a student,

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a teacher or an exam marker then we'd love to hear

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from you this morning. Do get in touch - use

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the hashtag Victoria LIVE and if you text,

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you will be charged workers are to be recruited

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by the NHS in England. The Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt,

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said the aim is to treat an extra The Royal College of Nursing has

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questioned how so many staff can be hired and trained,

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in such a short space of time. Here's more from our Health

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correspondent Dominic Hughes. Ministers in England have already

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acknowledged the treatment offered to patients struggling with mental

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health problems suffers in comparison to those

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with physical ailments. An extra ?1 billion in funding

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for mental health services Now we know that some of that cash

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will be spent on recruiting thousands of extra nurses,

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doctors, psychologists The plan includes recruiting 2,000

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staff to work in child and adolescent mental health

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services, nearly 3,000 extra therapists working with adults,

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and an extra 4,800 staff, mostly nurses, working

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in crisis care. Because mental health services

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have been underfunded for such a long time,

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this initiative, in and of itself, won't help us to achieve the parity

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of esteem that so many of us want. But what it will do is set

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the foundations to be able to look forward to a future where mental

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health is treated on an equal But simply creating posts does not

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always mean you can always find These jobs are among the most

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challenging in the health service. Data published last week showed

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that, even before this latest recruitment drive,

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many thousands of nursing posts across the wider

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NHS remain unfilled. The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt

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has been speaking about He told the BBC it was time

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to end the "historic imbalance" between mental

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and physical health services. We are confident we can get these

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numbers, there are people trained in mental health nursing, trained as

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psychiatrists who are not currently working in the NHS. We have a

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programme to attract them back into the NHS. We want to say to them that

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we probably have the biggest expansion in mental health in Europe

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at the moment, we are proud of what we are doing but we want to do much

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more. Will be talking more about this at 9:15am.

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Julian Worricker is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

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The United States says President Putin's decision to order

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755 of its diplomatic staff to leave Russia is unjustified.

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The move is in retaliation to new sanctions approved by the US

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Congress for Russia's alleged involvement in last year's

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presidential election and the annexation of Crimea.

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The Chancellor, Philip Hammond, appears to have stepped back

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from a suggestion that the UK could cut taxes and regulation

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in a bid to undercut EU countries after Brexit.

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In an interview with the French newspaper, Le Monde,

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he says the government has no plans to make big changes

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to tax policy in order to attract global investment.

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His remarks are in sharp contrast with what he said

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The editor of The Sunday Times has apologised for an article suggesting

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the BBC presenters Claudia Winkleman and Vanessa Feltz earned high

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The article, by the columnist Kevin Myers,

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was published in the newspaper's Irish edition and online and has

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Speaking on BBC Radio London, Ms Feltz has expressed her

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I would have thought that after all these years I

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would have been immune to it, and that is not at all how I felt.

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Also the layers of people at the newspaper who check

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copy before it goes into the paper, the subeditor, the legal team,

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thought that is blatantly anti-Semitic, vile and unsuitable,

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One in five MPs continues to employ a member of their family using

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taxpayers's money, despite the practice being banned for new

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members of Parliament. Of the 589 returning MPs, 120 do have declared

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the employment of a relative in the latest register of members financial

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interests. None of the 61 new MPs elected on June eight are allowed to

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do so. Campaigners say there needs to be a clear end date for all MPs.

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The High Court will today decide whether Tony Blair,

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former foreign secretary Jack Straw and former attorney general

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Lord Goldsmith can be prosecuted over the 2003 Iraq War.

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The attempt to bring them to court was launched

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by a former Iraqi general, Abdul-waheed al-Rabbat,

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who calls the invasion a "crime of aggression".

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HIV testing should be offered to patients when they register

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with a new GP in areas where there are high

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rates of infection, according to new research.

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More than 13,000 people are unaware that they have the condition -

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Researchers from two London universities say screening

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Our health correspondent, Jane Dreaper, reports.

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A simple finger prick test - that is all that is needed now

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GPs' surgeries in some parts of London are making

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This study says those efforts should be much more widespread.

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The researchers looked at surgeries where new patients are offered a HIV

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This led to a much higher rate of diagnosing the virus.

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The authors say the benefits mean more screening is affordable.

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That means they carry the virus without actually knowing it.

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So having an HIV test at your surgery will allow

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you to have access to excellent treatment, but then

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also prevent people - prevent you from passing

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Routine testing has previously been recommended by Public Health England

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But investment in testing has fallen in some areas because of financial

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pressures on local authorities' public health budgets.

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The charity Terrence Higgins Trust called on healthcare commissioners

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Cristiano Ronaldo will appear in Madrid today accused of tax fraud.

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He is the latest Spanish spokesman to fall foul of this. If found

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guilty he could face a prison sentence.

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Dozens of people were left suspended in mid-air after a cable

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car came to a stop over the River Rhine in Germany.

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Fire crews and rescue teams in Cologne used

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a crane to reach the 75 trapped passengers, some of whom were

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A number of children were lowered to the ground.

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Prince Charles will attend the second day of commemorations

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to mark the 100th anniversary of the start of the Battle

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Half a million Allied and German soldiers were killed,

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wounded or went missing in action during the three months of fighting

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The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended a service with descendants

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of those who fought there. That's a summary of the latest BBC

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News - more at 9.30. Thank you. We will be speaking later

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about the growing pressure on Channel 4 to scrap a programme which

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shows Princess Diana talking frankly about her personal life. Mick on

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Facebook says, she will always be alive in people's hearts, she is not

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here to defend herself from the rubbish people keep putting out to

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score points, let her rest in peace. Do get in touch with us

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throughout the morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

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and if you text, you will be charged Let's get some sport

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with Kat Downes. Kat, a great night for England's

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women. So England women are

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through to the final of the European Championships

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in Hungary - No mean feat. They beat France for

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the first time in 43 years and manager Mark Sampson may be relieved

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because he said before the match that England could beat France even

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if they did not play at their best. I don't think that is what happened

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but it only took one goal from Jody Taylor and England won. They held on

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for the rest of the match, some goalmouth skirmishes as the French

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attacked in the final minutes but England held on. The result means

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that England are now the highest ranked team in the tournament after

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defending champions Germany were knocked out. Does that make them the

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favourites? This is what the manager said after the match. We always

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talked about the fact that you can't just turn up and click your fingers

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and hope it comes together, these are the results of sheer hard work,

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obsession with wanting to be the best supporting your mates through

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it for the two years. All that work has now come to fruition. I'm just

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so proud of them because to reach that level of performance

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considering where we were four years ago is a huge achievement for them.

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But I know that they want more. England have been beaten by France

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at the last three major tournaments yet it is England who go through to

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face the Netherlands, the host nation, in the semifinals. Not only

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will they play a team in form, they'll be taking on the home crowd

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as well. Let's not get carried away! Let's talk about Lewis Hamilton.

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Lewis Hamilton let his teammate over take him in the closing stages

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of yesterday's Grand Prix, so some good sportsmanship

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Is this about Hamilton being a gentleman or team orders? I think it

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was the right thing to do. I think Lewis Hamilton showed sportsmanship,

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following team orders, it has definitely sent the right message

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and is the right way of going about things. Let me take you through the

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race. Sebastian Vettel was in front extending his Championship lead over

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Hamilton but was struggling with his steering. Valtteri Bottas, the team

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mate of Lewis Hamilton, was closing in on the leading Ferraris, Hamilton

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was closing in on him and Hamilton said if you let me overtake my team

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mate I think I can close that gap at the top of the drivers Championship.

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So Valtteri Bottas allows them to go past but it becomes clear that

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Hamilton won't be able to chase down the Ferraris so he keeps his word

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and says, I wasn't able to chase the Ferraris Stansell, Valtteri Bottas,

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you can go past me and take those points in the coming third at the

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Hungarian Grand Prix. So now people are asking was that good

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sportsmanship from Hamilton, was he just following team orders or in the

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cut-throat world of Formula 1, where Sebastian Vettel is now 14 points

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clear at the top of the drivers's Championship should Hamilton have

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gone for it and closed the gap because he might regretted by the

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end of the season. He says, in my mind, I want to win the Championship

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the right way. I don't know if that will come back to bite me in the

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backside or not. I want to win it the right way and I think today was

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the right way to do things. Whether you agree or not is up to you. Thank

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you, Kat, we will find out at the end of the season if that was costly

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for Lewis Hamilton. Now, tt's several years

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since the Government health provision on an equal footing

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with other health services, but many patients still struggle

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to access the services they need. It's a problem we've covered

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extensively on this programme. So will plans to recruit more

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than 20,000 extra mental health The plans involve increasing

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the number of trained nurses, therapists, psychiatrists and other

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mental health professionals by 2021. Earlier, the Health Secretary Jeremy

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Hunt explained the numbers to Naga Munchetty on BBC Breakfast

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and said nurses have The 21,000 number

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is for posts overall. That isn't just nurses,

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that is psychiatrists, that is therapists who help people

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with conditions like depression and anxiety, and nurses,

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and people working in different But nurses are a very,

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very important part of it, and we are confident that we can

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get these numbers. There are people who are trained

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in mental health nursing, people who are trained

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as psychiatrists who are not currently working in the NHS,

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and we have a programme to attract And what we want to say to them

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is that we probably have the biggest expansion in mental health provision

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in Europe going on at the moment. We're proud of what we're doing,

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but we want to do a lot more. We still have too many people

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in this country who... where a young

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life is blighted because we're not getting them the mental health care

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that they need quickly enough. There are too many older people

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who are living in isolation and suffering and depression

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and they think it is automatic and This is a very important issue,

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I don't think anyone would deny that, and when it is such

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an important issue, I wonder how you think you're going to recruit

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nurses when there is a 1% pay cap, when it seems that all you're

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going to be doing is, what, placing advertisements for a job

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which many think is underpaid, low-paid, and your pay rise

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is going to be less than inflation, so you're actually earning less

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money each year doing a job It is a very tough job,

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and I would say that nurses on the front line have

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never worked harder. But we are expanding

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the nursing workforce. We have nearly 6,000 more

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nurses on the front line One of the reasons that we have been

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able to expand the workforce to date is because with a limited budget

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and very difficult economic situation, we have

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shown pay discipline. But we have to balance that

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against the need for recruitment, And that's why we have

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this independent process with the pay review body,

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and that's why we will listen carefully to what the pay

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review body says before We can speak to Diane Hardiman

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is a psychotherapist Mandy Stevens has worked in mental

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health services for 30 years and recently found herself admitted

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to a mental health unit. Paul Farmer from the mental

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health charity, MIND. Stephanie Aitken from

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the Royal College of Nursing. Thank you for coming to speak to us.

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Diane, you train counsellors, what do you make of what Jeremy Hunt

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announced today? It sounds fantastic. It would be interesting

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to know exactly how many therapists and what he means by therapists

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being brought in. We have a lot of trainees, a lot of qualified

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counsellors who can't find paid work once they're trained. So, the idea

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of increasing the number available sounds fantastic, but whether it

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works or not and how we can actually get it happening, I don't know. But

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it sounds great. What do you think Stephanie from the Royal College of

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Nursing prospective, do you think it is realistic? So we'd welcome it

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because anything that's addresses some of the issues that we have got

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around parity of he is seem r teem is really important, but we have

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concerns about the fact that in terms of recruit, retain and retrain

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that how is that actually going to happen? So we think they're laudable

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ambition, but there is very little detail in the plan about how that's

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going to be achieved. So to deliver the number of staff, that Jeremy

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Hunt is talking about, when would the people need to start their

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training? How quickly would you need to get people? If you are looking

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into recruiting into post for 2020, they need to be recruited interest

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this September and with the changes in student funding at

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pre-registration level then there are real challenges around that. We

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know currently that it is less attractive and the numbers are down

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for recruitment for September. Mandy, you have got a unique

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prospective, a truly unique prospective to have worked so long

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in mental health services and then yourself having to access the

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services. So what are your thoughts as a professional and as patient? I

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worked for 15 years as a qualified nurse and when you are with people,

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what is so important is the communication and the relationship

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that you build up with the people that you're looking after. 15 years

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working as a director and a leader so you then have to manage the

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services, that's when you need to make sure that we've got enough

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staff, who are well trained, caring, compassionate and supportive. So,

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that the workforce are the people who deliver our service. So having

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then received services from mental health services myself, I benefited

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from outstanding care in the mental health trust that I was looked

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after. So, they care equality commission regulators, there is two

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mental health trusts in the country that are outstanding and I live in

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Hackney so I received care from East London foundation trust which is an

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outstanding trust. So I was in hospital for three months and I

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received that fantastic care in my hour of need so the staff were cam

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passionate, kind, caring, consistent. There was always pempl

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nant staff, people who knew me, and it helped building up the

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relationship. But I know that 98% of people who use services within our

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country don't receive that high level of care even at the moment.

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So, I was very lucky to receive such a unique high level of care. It was

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wonderful. Paul, I can see you nodding away. Mandy tells a great

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story about how important staff are. I mean the mental health services we

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don't have MRI scanners, we have people. People who provide the care

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and support to people to really make a big difference in their greatest

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hour of need. So I think the challenge is that the moment we have

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a huge amount of inconsistency in terms of what people experience

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locally on the grown and that's because of the very huge variety of

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staff availability and staff capability as well. So and we have

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never had a plan for mental health staff. This is the first time we are

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seeing those elements come into play, but it is a big challenge to

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get there over the next four to five years. The thing about the area of

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mental health this. Is one of the hardest jobs in the NHS, isn't it?

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Attracting staff is a problem and retaining them is a massive issue,

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isn't it? It's a passion. My colleagues, all of us who work in

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mental health services, it's about the relationship that you build up

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with our communities and our people. So nearly all of my colleagues who

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work in mental health services are all nurses, care. You know you

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really want to do the best that you can, but it's very difficult when

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you've got high waiting lists and you have got high demand and if

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you're working with people who have got really challenging needs and

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people who are very high risk to themselves or other people, you need

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to be alert. You need to be very consistent and you need to be very,

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you need to be looked after yourself as an individual. So, I was really

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delighted that Paul and MIND have started doing work around the mental

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health of people who work in mental health services which is fantastic

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to see because you know, it has a lot of personal toll on people. What

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do you think needs to change in order to attract those members of

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staff that would be amazing and retain them? There is a lot of

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stigma around mental health. There is something about I would support

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any campaign that actually really makes clear what the value

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contribution people who work with those with mental health in a range

:22:25.:22:27.

of different roles, but particularly for us in nursing. Actually add in

:22:28.:22:32.

terms of that. There is huge job satisfaction, but job satisfaction

:22:33.:22:35.

isn't enough. People also need recognition and they need to be able

:22:36.:22:39.

to actually feel that they are able to support themselves and their

:22:40.:22:43.

families and loved ones in the role that they are and actually, we have

:22:44.:22:47.

seen that the pay has actually, the value of your pay has gone down for

:22:48.:22:52.

nurses over years and that's why we have launched our scrap the cut

:22:53.:22:56.

campaign. People need to have recognition both financially and in

:22:57.:22:58.

terms of the value that society offers. Picking up on the stigma

:22:59.:23:06.

point. Although there is a lot of stigma around mental health,

:23:07.:23:08.

probably this year, we have seen that eroding as we have seen the

:23:09.:23:15.

work of Times Change And The Heads Together Campaign. Prince Harry

:23:16.:23:20.

talking about his own experiences? Younger people changing mindset

:23:21.:23:24.

about mental health as an issue. The big opportunity here it is to

:23:25.:23:28.

attract that young group of people and for example, as we have heard

:23:29.:23:34.

earlier, there are thousands of people who do sky dolling degrees

:23:35.:23:37.

and we make it so difficult for them to come in and work in the NHS as

:23:38.:23:41.

therapists or in other mental health roles. So, there is a big

:23:42.:23:46.

opportunity here to kind of make the most of that huge awareness around

:23:47.:23:50.

mental health so that we can bring the next generation of staff into

:23:51.:23:55.

working in mental health. Diane, what are your thoughts on that? I

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agree. From what I've heard from the previous three speakers I agree with

:24:01.:24:04.

what they are saying, but what I would personally and this is my

:24:05.:24:08.

experience in the past of working in the NHS, is to have a

:24:09.:24:13.

multidisciplinary team involving psychiatrists and nursing staff,

:24:14.:24:17.

counsellors and psychologists, everyone working together and

:24:18.:24:20.

supporting one another and supporting the patient ultimately,

:24:21.:24:22.

and that's fantastic. The idea talking about the nurses and their

:24:23.:24:27.

pay, for counsellors, I train a lot of extremely talented and very

:24:28.:24:30.

gifted compassionate people, the same qualities that are needed to

:24:31.:24:37.

work as nurses, but to find work that's paid, because counselling

:24:38.:24:40.

isn't always acknowledged as having the value, we are seen as the tea

:24:41.:24:45.

and sympathy brigade as opposed to professionals in our own right. And

:24:46.:24:50.

there is a lot of volunteer positions even for qualified

:24:51.:24:54.

counsellors, but so little actually paid and recognised and again,

:24:55.:24:59.

recognition across-the-board in mental health for everybody, you

:25:00.:25:04.

know, all the away across to and create a unified multidisciplinary

:25:05.:25:07.

working team can only be good for the people working in the team,

:25:08.:25:10.

supporting each other and the patients. So do you think that this

:25:11.:25:15.

is going to put mental health services on a par with physical

:25:16.:25:19.

services for example? Well, we really welcome the plan and I think

:25:20.:25:24.

it is going to go a long way to support and engage a forward

:25:25.:25:26.

movement, but I think there is a long way to go. It's great in the

:25:27.:25:29.

document that they are talking about. I think its 5,000 staff

:25:30.:25:34.

coming into crisis services. So when people are desperate and really need

:25:35.:25:38.

urgent care, there is somebody avail cable. But... It doesn't happen now,

:25:39.:25:45.

does it? It does, but it's patchy across the country it is fair to

:25:46.:25:48.

say. My experience was great, but it is not everywhere and where you have

:25:49.:25:52.

long waiting lists and things, but the most important thing with all

:25:53.:25:55.

health care is to support people to stay well and safe at home in the

:25:56.:26:00.

community. So putting the resources into preventative mental health care

:26:01.:26:03.

and community services to keep people safe and well which will then

:26:04.:26:08.

prevent people getting more unwell and needing to come into hospital

:26:09.:26:12.

for example. I'm hopeful that through counselling they were,

:26:13.:26:18.

therapy, support services, community psychiatric nurses and liaising with

:26:19.:26:22.

the voluntary sector, we can support people to stay well at home. It is

:26:23.:26:27.

better for the people, better for the families and better for the

:26:28.:26:29.

communities and it is better than coming into hospital and using

:26:30.:26:33.

extensive resources and it is just traumatic. I would agree. When we

:26:34.:26:37.

talk about mental health and physical health having parity of he

:26:38.:26:40.

is seem, it is important to think about the current workforce and how

:26:41.:26:43.

they are working. So we've always sort of divided the way that we see

:26:44.:26:47.

people either they have a physical or mental health and that's not how

:26:48.:26:52.

people are. People have a variety of complex needs. So we need to look at

:26:53.:26:56.

our health force and they need to be invested in in order to be able to

:26:57.:26:59.

care appropriately with the right skills in the right place at the

:27:00.:27:05.

right time to enable good care fob given. That's where this plan is

:27:06.:27:10.

great. It gets us to one particular place, but it's that wider story

:27:11.:27:15.

about having a multidisciplinary workforce, thinking about how you

:27:16.:27:17.

don't just train mental health nurses, but all nurses, all doctors,

:27:18.:27:20.

in really understanding mental health. How you recognise the vital

:27:21.:27:25.

role that peer support workers can play in terms of people bringing

:27:26.:27:28.

their own lived experience into supporting each other. I think

:27:29.:27:31.

that's the broader piece that we need to kind of move on to next to

:27:32.:27:36.

really get to that point where we can genuinely say that physical

:27:37.:27:40.

health and mental health are on a par. In that case, do you think the

:27:41.:27:43.

Government truly understands what needs to be done in the NHS

:27:44.:27:47.

regarding mental health to create that parity? Well, I think the plan

:27:48.:27:51.

is pretty good. It's based on what is possible and achievable in the

:27:52.:27:58.

current time frame and it was co produced by lots of people who

:27:59.:28:01.

brought their own opinions together. I think what it does though is it

:28:02.:28:05.

recognises that there is such, we are trying to unpackage you know

:28:06.:28:09.

decades and decades, arguably ever, there has never been a time when

:28:10.:28:12.

mental health has been prioritised, we are trying to do something

:28:13.:28:15.

significant and we want to do it now, but we need to put in place the

:28:16.:28:19.

investment, the workforce, we need to have good quality information. So

:28:20.:28:22.

we're going to get to a certain point. It's not going to be enough

:28:23.:28:26.

for most people yet, but at least it will be a step in the right

:28:27.:28:30.

direction. Lots of people getting in touch with their experiences. We

:28:31.:28:35.

have had an e-mail from a viewer who says, "I'm schizophrenic and I must

:28:36.:28:40.

have fortnightly injections. My local clinishing only has one nurse

:28:41.:28:46.

giving out ingeneral elections. ." Linda on Facebook says, "People

:28:47.:28:52.

watch Cas alt and think it's great. Nursing is stressle. It is overrun

:28:53.:28:55.

by paperwork, policies and procedures. Nursing is suffering

:28:56.:29:00.

from decades of constant under funding and political interference.

:29:01.:29:03.

Hospitals need the nurses, but don't need the vast am of back room

:29:04.:29:06.

management that drains the money. They do not need to be put under

:29:07.:29:11.

pressure to meet deadlines or targets or to work stupid hours

:29:12.:29:15.

because when they are forced to that's when stupid mistakes are

:29:16.:29:23.

made. ." Ali says, "I live in mid-Devon with bipolar. No support

:29:24.:29:28.

only from my GP who saved my life." Ken says, "Why are mental health

:29:29.:29:32.

nurses and specialists expected to pay for their training or any other

:29:33.:29:36.

nurses in the mental health service? Will people joining the Police

:29:37.:29:40.

Service or the Fire Service be expected to pay for their training?

:29:41.:29:44.

It not, why should nurses have to pay for their training? If the

:29:45.:29:49.

Government is putting money into the NHS is it new money or will other

:29:50.:29:54.

parts of the NHS be cut to pay for that?" Ceremonies to mark 100 years

:29:55.:30:03.

since the start of the Battle of Passchendaele are taking place.

:30:04.:30:07.

Prince Charles and the Prime Minister and 4,000 descendants will

:30:08.:30:08.

be in attendance. And research suggests new patients

:30:09.:30:11.

who sign up to GPs surgeries in high We'll speak to one of

:30:12.:30:14.

the researchers who says it Here's Julian in the BBC Newsroom

:30:15.:30:20.

with a summary of today's news. Thoughts of extra mental health

:30:21.:30:36.

nurses are to be recruited by the NHS in England. The Health

:30:37.:30:38.

Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, said the aim is to treat an extra one million

:30:39.:30:44.

people by 2021. The Royal College of Nursing questioned how so many staff

:30:45.:30:47.

can be hired and trained in such a short space of time. It's not long

:30:48.:30:57.

away, 20, 21, and those skilled nurses will need to be in training

:30:58.:31:01.

now. What we will need is lots of people coming in to train as mental

:31:02.:31:05.

health nurses this September when the programme is open, and that is

:31:06.:31:07.

not what we are seeing. The USA says President Putin 's

:31:08.:31:17.

decision to order its diplomatic staff to leave Russia is not

:31:18.:31:21.

justified. They have been told to leave by September one. This is in

:31:22.:31:24.

retaliation to new sanctions approved by the US Congress relating

:31:25.:31:29.

to Russia's alleged involvement in the last presidential election and

:31:30.:31:32.

its annexation of the Crimea. The Chancellor appears to have

:31:33.:31:40.

stepped back from a succession that the UK could cut tax regulation in a

:31:41.:31:43.

bid to undercut other countries. In an interview with a French newspaper

:31:44.:31:48.

he says the UK has no plans to change tax policy to encourage this.

:31:49.:31:56.

His remarks are in sharp contrast to what he told the German newspaper

:31:57.:31:58.

earlier this year. Afghan police say there's been

:31:59.:32:02.

a suicide explosion outside Several explosions were

:32:03.:32:05.

heard and a gun battle Civilians are being

:32:06.:32:08.

moved from the area. The so-called Islamic State group

:32:09.:32:11.

has claimed responsibility. The High Court will today

:32:12.:32:27.

decide whether Tony Blair, former foreign secretary Jack Straw

:32:28.:32:30.

and former attorney general Lord Goldsmith can be prosecuted

:32:31.:32:32.

over the 2003 Iraq War. The attempt to bring them

:32:33.:32:34.

to court was launched by a former Iraqi general

:32:35.:32:36.

Abdul-waheed al-Rabbat, who calls the invasion

:32:37.:32:38.

a "crime of aggression". That's a summary of the latest BBC

:32:39.:32:40.

News - more at 10am. Thank you, let's get the sport now

:32:41.:32:48.

with Kat. England are through to the semifinals of the women's Euros,

:32:49.:32:52.

they beat France the first time in 43 gears thanks to one goal from

:32:53.:32:58.

Jody Taylor. They face the hosts, the Netherlands, in the semifinal.

:32:59.:33:03.

Sebastian Vettel won the Hungarian Grand Prix to extend his lead over

:33:04.:33:07.

Lewis Hamilton in the drivers Championship after Hamilton allowed

:33:08.:33:10.

team mate Valtteri Bottas to overtake him, keeping a promise he

:33:11.:33:14.

had made earlier in the race. England are closing in on a win over

:33:15.:33:22.

South Africa in the third test, they need to take six more wickets today

:33:23.:33:25.

to lead 2-1 in the Test series. In the world swimming Championships the

:33:26.:33:30.

men's relay team got a silver, a third medal of the championships for

:33:31.:33:37.

Adam Peaty who already had two gold medals. Back to you, Chloe. Thank

:33:38.:33:43.

you, Kat. 100 years ago today one

:33:44.:33:45.

of the most deadly battles Over the 3 months that followed,

:33:46.:33:48.

half a million British, Allied and German soldiers

:33:49.:33:52.

were killed or injured. It was fought in the trenches

:33:53.:33:54.

near the small village Many of the soldiers were drowned

:33:55.:33:56.

in thick mud that had been caused Events are now under way to

:33:57.:34:00.

commemorate the 100th anniversary - last night the Duke and Duchess

:34:01.:34:06.

of Cambridge laid wreathes and listened to the Last

:34:07.:34:09.

Post be played out. This is a reminder of the battle

:34:10.:34:11.

which claimed so many lives. Our correspondent Ben Brown

:34:12.:35:59.

is Tyne Cot cemetery in Belgium where many

:36:00.:36:01.

of the soldiers are buried. Yes, at this time 100 years ago

:36:02.:36:10.

today the Battle of Passchendaele was well under way. The offensive

:36:11.:36:15.

had began at 358 and in the early hours of that morning. The first

:36:16.:36:19.

British and Commonwealth troops had gone over the top and had fallen as

:36:20.:36:25.

well. Today at Tyne Cot Cemetery, the biggest Commonwealth War

:36:26.:36:28.

cemetery in the world, Prince Charles and the Duke and Duchess of

:36:29.:36:33.

Cambridge will be here for a commemorative service, 100 years on.

:36:34.:36:43.

I am joined by the eminent historian, Glyn and also Tim Barrett

:36:44.:36:47.

whose grandfather Jack died 100 years ago today at the Battle of

:36:48.:36:55.

Passchendaele. Give us picture of what the men would have gone through

:36:56.:37:01.

a century ago. It is so beautiful today it is almost impossible to

:37:02.:37:05.

imagine the carnage. The bombardment had been intense, 4.5 million shells

:37:06.:37:10.

falling on German lines and at 3:50am the attack went on in gloomy

:37:11.:37:14.

weather, not at all like today. Some of the soldiers were held back

:37:15.:37:19.

instantly, others advanced quite far but before long the German counter

:37:20.:37:23.

attack came in and many of the advances were last and on both sides

:37:24.:37:28.

it was the beginning of 3.5 months before but that has come to

:37:29.:37:32.

epitomise the horrors of the Western front. Half a million casualties,

:37:33.:37:36.

killed, wounded or missing on both sides. Is important to reflect on

:37:37.:37:41.

the fact that both sides were traumatic, will remember the battle

:37:42.:37:45.

for the rain that fell on the afternoon of the 31st. It died and

:37:46.:37:52.

the were quite successful. But created a crisis in German morale.

:37:53.:38:04.

Tim, your grandfather died at the beginning of the battle, 100 years

:38:05.:38:08.

ago today. Jack Barrett, 36, lieutenant. You have a picture of

:38:09.:38:19.

him. Yes, I have. Tell us what you know about how he served and how he

:38:20.:38:25.

died. He was commissioned into the Rifle Brigade is a signals officer

:38:26.:38:31.

but ended up outside kitchen's Would, in charge of his men, tasked

:38:32.:38:39.

with capturing the machine-gun post. The objective was achieved but he

:38:40.:38:44.

was killed in the process along with another lieutenant. He was 36. He

:38:45.:38:51.

was quite old to be a lieutenant and his men caught Father Barrett! How

:38:52.:38:58.

important is it for you to come here one century on and remember? It is

:38:59.:39:03.

very important that we all remember the futility of what went on. I know

:39:04.:39:07.

it sounds trite but perhaps the younger generation now might get the

:39:08.:39:16.

idea that war is a waste of time! You have a letter that your

:39:17.:39:20.

grandfather wrote before the Battle of Passchendaele. He wrote it to his

:39:21.:39:25.

wife. Can you read some of it out? I will try. Six months before he died.

:39:26.:39:31.

My dearest old girl. By the time you get this, I'm sorry, I can't do

:39:32.:39:38.

this! Glyn Prysor read about. My dearest old girl, by the time you

:39:39.:39:43.

read this I fear the Germans will have said something over which has

:39:44.:39:49.

my name and address on it which will wipe me out and I want to say

:39:50.:39:53.

goodbye to you and leave it. I can never thank you enough for all you

:39:54.:39:56.

have given me. It is an awful wrench to leave you and the children

:39:57.:40:00.

because I had counted on doing with your help all I could do for them,

:40:01.:40:03.

they have been suspended and good and jolly from the first and by God

:40:04.:40:07.

's grace they will continue as they have begun. Now it must be left to

:40:08.:40:11.

you. I cannot give you any help. Live your life, EV, as you think

:40:12.:40:17.

best. An incredibly emotional letter. A man who seemed almost

:40:18.:40:22.

certain that he was going to die here. Absolutely. Are so many people

:40:23.:40:33.

did feel that but to actually have a letter where he expresses the

:40:34.:40:36.

classic, there's a shell with my name on it, well, as you can see, it

:40:37.:40:40.

is very emotional. Glyn, do you think most of the men

:40:41.:40:54.

who went into the batter would not have come out alive? It is very hard

:40:55.:41:00.

for us to imagine what they went through, men like Jack, one of the

:41:01.:41:03.

inscriptions you will find in the cemeteries, families can choose a

:41:04.:41:09.

personal inscription, it says, to live in hearts we leave behind is

:41:10.:41:13.

not to die and the fact that we retain those memories is a very

:41:14.:41:21.

special thing. Thank you very much, Glyn Prysor, Tim Barrett, an

:41:22.:41:26.

emotional moment. Coverage of the ceremonies later today.

:41:27.:41:29.

And we'll have special live coverage of the remembrance ceremony

:41:30.:41:32.

at Tyne Cot Cemetery in Belgium with the BBC's Ben Brown from just

:41:33.:41:35.

The controversy surrounding a Channel 4 programme

:41:36.:41:39.

due to be aired about Princess Diana.

:41:40.:41:40.

We find out why the corporation is under pressure to pull it.

:41:41.:41:43.

People who live in areas with high rates of HIV should be automatically

:41:44.:41:46.

tested for the virus when they register with a new GP.

:41:47.:41:49.

That's what a group of researchers are recommending after running

:41:50.:41:51.

They had 80,000 people tested as part of the initial health check

:41:52.:41:55.

when they joined surgeries in the borough - and it quadrupled

:41:56.:41:58.

The research says not only would rolling this out

:41:59.:42:02.

save lives, but it would also save taxpayers money.

:42:03.:42:07.

We can speak to Alex Causton-Ronaldson,

:42:08.:42:09.

who was diagnosed with HIV three years ago, when he was 24,

:42:10.:42:12.

and Dr Werner Leber from Queen Mary University

:42:13.:42:14.

Thank you both for coming in. Alex, tell us how you were diagnosed. I

:42:15.:42:29.

started to get ill, lost a lot of weight rapidly. This I went to an A

:42:30.:42:33.

E department and they were too busy and I was asked to leave. I

:42:34.:42:37.

then went to a walk-in centre and they gave me penicillin because they

:42:38.:42:42.

did not know what was happening. It wasn't until I went to my GP on

:42:43.:42:46.

several occasions and we couldn't work out what was going on,

:42:47.:42:51.

eventually I said that I had had a partner with HIV. So I got referred

:42:52.:42:59.

to, I had to spend the whole day finding the clinic because it is

:43:00.:43:02.

outside the city where I was living, I had my test and three days later I

:43:03.:43:08.

found out I had HIV. Did you have suspicions? It was one of those

:43:09.:43:12.

things where you think about it and obstruct yourself, you know it is

:43:13.:43:17.

there, but I live in London and I'd heard about it a lot but it was

:43:18.:43:21.

almost like this idea that it wouldn't happen to me. So I suppose,

:43:22.:43:27.

even though I wish... I was presenting a lot of the symptoms of

:43:28.:43:33.

HIV, I never thought it might be theirs. Because originally I had

:43:34.:43:38.

tested negative in the January. That must have been inside the four week

:43:39.:43:41.

window where they can't pick it up on the initial test. Is this why you

:43:42.:43:47.

carried out the study of the stories like this where it takes a long time

:43:48.:43:52.

and it can be difficult for people to get this diagnosis? That's

:43:53.:43:56.

absolutely right. I think our work and other studies have shown that

:43:57.:44:03.

testing, screening, a routine test, HIV screening can produce, help

:44:04.:44:09.

identify people in the early stage of the infection. What is the test,

:44:10.:44:15.

what does it entail? There are various ways of testing. The two

:44:16.:44:20.

main ones, offered to practices are a finger prick testing, a point of

:44:21.:44:29.

care test, as we call it, it is similar to having your blood sugar

:44:30.:44:36.

taken for instance from a finger prick and it usually gives you an

:44:37.:44:39.

answer within minutes. An indicator of whether someone may have HIV or

:44:40.:44:45.

not. So that person would know within minutes. That would have

:44:46.:44:50.

really helped you, presumably, Alex, because you had to wait a few days

:44:51.:44:55.

which must have been difficult. It was quite terrifying. In London they

:44:56.:45:00.

were doing the rapid testing that I was living in Norwich at the time,

:45:01.:45:04.

and they weren't doing it there. So I tested on a Friday, then I moved

:45:05.:45:09.

back to London on the Saturday, I came back and started a new job

:45:10.:45:12.

there on the Monday and I got a phone call at quarter past five that

:45:13.:45:16.

the test had come back positive. I suppose, had I been in the care of a

:45:17.:45:22.

local professional at the time, it was quite a scary moment, walking

:45:23.:45:27.

down the road in central London and suddenly being told... On your

:45:28.:45:32.

mobile? Yes, unfortunately because I'd moved I couldn't go back to the

:45:33.:45:36.

clinic. It was an odd sensation, the nurse did not say, you have HIV, he

:45:37.:45:41.

said, your test is positive. I carried on walking for a couple of

:45:42.:45:46.

minutes and then thought, oh my God, what? Then everything spins out of

:45:47.:45:58.

control, everything goes out of the window, all logic. It's quite a

:45:59.:46:01.

scary moment before you realise that you are going to be all right. I was

:46:02.:46:03.

on effective treatment within a couple of weeks. And I have lived

:46:04.:46:05.

long and healthy ever since, really. As well as Alex saying it would have

:46:06.:46:16.

been easier if he was told by a health professional rather than

:46:17.:46:20.

walking down a street in London? Our study is based on data which is

:46:21.:46:26.

where HIV is very common like in most parts of London, but it shows

:46:27.:46:30.

that it is cost effective. Cost effective is different from cost

:46:31.:46:34.

saving. Cost effective just means that the balance, the balance of

:46:35.:46:40.

doing a test, so the clinical benefits of doing a test will

:46:41.:46:44.

outweigh the costs at some point. Now, we have shown that this will

:46:45.:46:50.

happen after about 33 years. That may sound very far away, but in

:46:51.:46:56.

fact, it's a public health measure which is accepted by the NHS. So,

:46:57.:47:06.

but however, I think the key here is that the offer, offering a HIV test

:47:07.:47:14.

is not or should not be based on financial considerations. It is

:47:15.:47:18.

always a clinical decision. So, implementing a screening service for

:47:19.:47:21.

instance in high prevalence areas is a clinical decision. Offering a test

:47:22.:47:26.

to someone who is unwell as a result of their HIV infection is a clinical

:47:27.:47:33.

condition. Now, what our study has shown if in addition to getting the

:47:34.:47:42.

clinical benefits you also have financial... A cost benefit further

:47:43.:47:48.

down the line. Thank you for coming in to speak to us.

:47:49.:47:55.

Some comments coming in to us about Princess Diana saying that from

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Chris on Facebook saying, "I think that Channel 4 should be allowed to

:47:59.:48:02.

publish the documentary. Diana maybe an icon and member of the Royal

:48:03.:48:06.

Family, but she is still a person. I'm sure many people would rather

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see her for who she is rather than flawless icon." Tony says, "The

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Diana tape should be broadcast. They were private recordings and could be

:48:18.:48:21.

hurtful to people who don't have an effective ability to respond. If

:48:22.:48:24.

they are allowed to be broadcast it shows that the callous nature of our

:48:25.:48:30.

nasty broadcasters. Stop them from being broadcast."

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Vladimir Putin has announced that 755 staff must leave US

:48:37.:48:39.

diplomatic missions, in retaliation for new US

:48:40.:48:40.

Our correspondent Sarah Rainsford joins us now

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Sarah just explain. This is a big response by Russia to the US

:48:52.:49:00.

Congress passing very tough sanctions against Russia in response

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for Russia's alleged meddling in the US elections and what Russia has

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done is announced that some 755 staff at US diplomatic missions

:49:10.:49:13.

across Russia, so that's not just Americans, we believe this is

:49:14.:49:18.

Russian local hired staff will have to seize their activities as Mr

:49:19.:49:22.

Putin put it in an interview yesterday that he gave. So some of

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those will be Americans who will be expelled from the country. We don't

:49:27.:49:30.

know the exact numbers yet, but many of them are Russian staff who will

:49:31.:49:35.

now lose their jobs and this is an expression of the anger and the

:49:36.:49:39.

frustration that there is here in Russia with the way that relations

:49:40.:49:42.

with America have gone under Donald Trump. I mean remember, of coffers,

:49:43.:49:47.

that Russia was hoping for something of a reset in relations, hoping for

:49:48.:49:50.

things to improve with the United States when Donald Trump came to

:49:51.:49:55.

power, but what it has seen is actually relation plummet to the

:49:56.:49:58.

lowest that they have been since the Cold War and this is the latest

:49:59.:50:03.

element of that. The removal from their posts of some 755 staff at US

:50:04.:50:07.

diplomatic missions here and people here don't think that's going to be

:50:08.:50:12.

the end of it. It is expected that there could be further measures to

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come. It is a fairly unpredictable situation now. Thank you, Sarah.

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A controversial documentary about the late Diana,

:50:23.:50:26.

Princess of Wales is to be shown on Channel 4 this weekend.

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It will show recordings that haven't been played in the UK before,

:50:30.:50:32.

in which she discusses her marriage, and relationship with a royal

:50:33.:50:34.

Here's a clip from the trailer for the documentary.

:50:35.:50:39.

Diana said, "Do you want a drink?" It was almost like being in a wine

:50:40.:50:45.

bar in Kensington with a friend. She said, "Do you know about Camilla

:50:46.:50:55.

Parker Bowles?" I couldn't deny that I didn't know about it. There was a

:50:56.:51:00.

hesitation, she said, "Well, she features most days, most hours and

:51:01.:51:07.

minutes of my life." I didn't really understand at that point exactly

:51:08.:51:11.

what she meant, but of course, the days that followed, the weeks that

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followed, the months that followed, I knew exactly what she meant by

:51:16.:51:23.

that. She sort of carried out her own research and found previous

:51:24.:51:28.

Prince of Wales' had their own mistresses.

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That's on Channel 4 at 8pm on Sunday.

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Let's talk about the controversy. Just explain why so many people are

:51:39.:51:48.

unhappy? Because of the content of these tapes and just how private

:51:49.:51:53.

they were meant to be some say. These were tapes recorded about

:51:54.:51:57.

three or four years before Princess Diana died with her voice coach.

:51:58.:52:03.

This was her learning to speak and learning to deliver her own thoughts

:52:04.:52:07.

better ahead of some of the big interviews that she gave towards the

:52:08.:52:12.

end of her life, not least the famous one with Martin Basher, the

:52:13.:52:21.

Panorama interview. She is very candid, speaking about her sex life

:52:22.:52:25.

with Prince Charles, speaking about her relations with a royal

:52:26.:52:30.

protection officer. Deeply personal material which it seems was meant to

:52:31.:52:34.

be within the confines of those coaching sessions. These were tapes

:52:35.:52:38.

later, after her death, a legal battle was fought over. Earl

:52:39.:52:44.

Spencer, her brother, said she should belong to Diana's, but they

:52:45.:52:47.

were returned to the voice coach and sold on, they have been shown in

:52:48.:52:51.

part before in America, but never in this country. Channel 4 now

:52:52.:52:55.

broadcasting ex-certs of the never seen or heard before in this

:52:56.:52:58.

country. They're defending their right to do that. This is their head

:52:59.:53:05.

of factual. There were two, I would say, key factors in deciding to air

:53:06.:53:11.

the tape. One is we can argue about when things come history. 20 years

:53:12.:53:16.

have passed by. Diana was very conscious about being filmed. She is

:53:17.:53:20.

sitting comfortably in front of the camera and was happy to be recorded

:53:21.:53:23.

by Peterment when people see that, they will see a relaxed, informal

:53:24.:53:28.

Diana, comfortable talking about her own story and they will see the

:53:29.:53:32.

process that she is going through is the one of bringing to light her

:53:33.:53:36.

story. It is not concealing her story, it is a process of about

:53:37.:53:42.

channelling her natural and her voice and using her personal

:53:43.:53:45.

experience to say inform that voice. I don't think people will find the

:53:46.:53:51.

experience of watching the tapes anything, but illuminating. Any rid

:53:52.:53:55.

action from her children? Not at this stage. But plenty from people

:53:56.:54:00.

who considered themselves close to Diana. Some of the words and

:54:01.:54:05.

expressions used are saying this is like blood money. It is very wrong

:54:06.:54:10.

that these were made public. These were deeply personal tapes that

:54:11.:54:12.

should never have seen the light of day. They are critical and calling

:54:13.:54:16.

for Channel 4 not to put it out there. Matt Cole, thank you.

:54:17.:54:22.

Let's talk to the former royal press officer. Also royal biographer,

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Penny Junior. We heard you are not happy about the documentary? I'm not

:54:33.:54:35.

happy and of course, Channel 4 are going to defend themselves because

:54:36.:54:38.

they have got a lot of money invested in it and with the showing

:54:39.:54:42.

of the documentary, it will be a high rated programme, high ratings

:54:43.:54:45.

means high advertising, high advertising means a lot of revenue

:54:46.:54:49.

and Channel 4 will laugh all the way to the bank. These tapes were

:54:50.:54:53.

recorded in private. They were part of a training session and anybody

:54:54.:54:58.

would tell you who is involved in media training that anything done

:54:59.:55:05.

behind closed doors remains private. I'm surprised that they didn't have

:55:06.:55:08.

the decency to hand the tapes to Diana. I have done media training

:55:09.:55:13.

time and time again, I hand the tapes to the client because it is

:55:14.:55:17.

their opportunity to watch back and listen back, to see whether they are

:55:18.:55:20.

doing right or doing wrong and to learn from it. Penny, what do you

:55:21.:55:25.

think? I agree with everything Dickie has said. It is obscene they

:55:26.:55:34.

are showing these and immoral. Diana when she made them, the marriage had

:55:35.:55:38.

come to an end. They had just broken up. She looks delightful and she is,

:55:39.:55:46.

I think, a little flirtatious with her voice coach, but fundamentally,

:55:47.:55:50.

she was extremely hurt and she was bitter and she was, she was in pain.

:55:51.:55:59.

And she started, the bulimia had come flooding back, she was not in a

:56:00.:56:03.

good place, there she was talking privately, never ever intending

:56:04.:56:07.

these tapes to be heard by other living sole. I just think it is so

:56:08.:56:15.

such exploitation and... We have heard from people getting in touch.

:56:16.:56:21.

Penny, your line crackled up. People got in touch saying today, "We loved

:56:22.:56:24.

Princess Diana. We love the fact that she wasn't completely flawless.

:56:25.:56:29.

We loved all of the vulnerabilities that normal people have and we want

:56:30.:56:32.

to see those and that's why we want to see this documentary?" She had

:56:33.:56:40.

children and do her children, I don't care what age they are? Do

:56:41.:56:45.

they really want to know how often their parents had sex? Is it

:56:46.:56:49.

anybody's business? It is not our business. All we need to know about

:56:50.:56:53.

our Royal Family is that they do their job and that they are worth

:56:54.:56:58.

the money. We do not need to pry into their private lives. This may

:56:59.:57:03.

have historical interest, but 20 years on, when her sons are youngish

:57:04.:57:08.

and when her ex-husband is alive, when the Royal Family that welcomed

:57:09.:57:13.

her into their family, and when her sisters and brother are still alive,

:57:14.:57:17.

this is not the right time. Let it wait until all these people are long

:57:18.:57:21.

gone and then let the historians perhaps pour over these tapes and

:57:22.:57:24.

make what they will of them. But this is not the right thing to be

:57:25.:57:35.

doing, for, serving up for public at this public information. Do you

:57:36.:57:40.

think this she wanted it to be recorded and wanted people to know

:57:41.:57:46.

the truth? Diana wasn't so much naive, she was incredibly vulnerable

:57:47.:57:49.

and she was prepared to talk to anybody who was prepared to listen

:57:50.:57:56.

to her. He has a knack about him to get somebody to relax and open up

:57:57.:58:00.

and this is what she did, she opened up to him. She opened up on the

:58:01.:58:03.

basis that what she was doing was private and wasn't for public

:58:04.:58:08.

consumption. Yes, by all means, release the tapes in 50, 60, 70, 100

:58:09.:58:13.

years' time when historians and researchers can pour over them, but

:58:14.:58:17.

certainly not while you have got William and Harry alive, the Royal

:58:18.:58:22.

Family, the Spencer family, it is just very hurtful and it seems to

:58:23.:58:28.

me, as I said yesterday, it's grubby blood money. We know Earl Spencer is

:58:29.:58:33.

unhappy about the prospect of this documentary on Sunday on Channel 4.

:58:34.:58:36.

How do you think, William and Harry, you mentioned them there, would

:58:37.:58:41.

respond to this? Well, William and Harry had it over the years,

:58:42.:58:45.

allegations about what their mother did, what their mother said, how

:58:46.:58:49.

their mother behaved and they have had to live with it and they toss it

:58:50.:58:54.

to one side, yes, whatever is coming out on Channel 4 is hurtful and the

:58:55.:58:59.

Spencer family will feel the same. It is unfortunate that a lot of

:59:00.:59:03.

people will make, not a lot of people, but a few people will make a

:59:04.:59:09.

lot of money and what a private recording and should remain private

:59:10.:59:13.

and it's not going to enhance anything about Diana. Yes, we knew

:59:14.:59:18.

she was vulnerable, we knew she was suffering, but that was the lady of

:59:19.:59:23.

the day. She spoke to me many times about all sorts of things. I

:59:24.:59:30.

certainly wouldn't go and blab them, why Settler is selling the tapes?

:59:31.:59:35.

Only he can answer. Now let's get the latest weather update with

:59:36.:59:37.

Carol. We are looking at sunshine and

:59:38.:59:45.

showers. That's going to be the case today. Some showers could have hail

:59:46.:59:53.

and thunder. Further south, showers will be less intense and fewer and

:59:54.:59:58.

further between and the South East may escape them. Between them all,

:59:59.:00:01.

there will be sunshine. Through this evening and overnight many of the

:00:02.:00:05.

showers will fade. We will hang to a few in the west. Temperature wise 11

:00:06.:00:11.

to 14 will be the overnight lows. Tomorrow morning, we start off with

:00:12.:00:15.

a lot of dry weather. However, it won't be long before the showers in

:00:16.:00:18.

the west develop further and again, some of those will be slow moving,

:00:19.:00:22.

heavy and thundery with hail, but not all of us will catch one. Some

:00:23.:00:26.

of us will miss them altogether having a dry day with bright or

:00:27.:00:30.

sunny skies and in the sunshine, particularly in the South East, we

:00:31.:00:34.

could hit 22 to 24 Celsius. It changes during Wednesday. After a

:00:35.:00:38.

dry and a bright start, for many parts of the UK, we've got rain and

:00:39.:00:42.

stronger winds sweeping in from the south-west.

:00:43.:00:49.

Hello it's Monday, it's 10 o'clock, I'm Chloe Tilley, in for Victoria.

:00:50.:00:52.

The Health Secretary has admitted plans to to recruit another 21,000

:00:53.:00:54.

mental health nurses in the next four years is ambitious,

:00:55.:00:57.

and now the Royal College of Nursing is concerned.

:00:58.:01:02.

We do have concerns about the fact that, in terms of recruit, retain

:01:03.:01:10.

and retrain, how is that actually going to happen? We think these

:01:11.:01:15.

laudable ambitions but there is very little detail in the plan about how

:01:16.:01:17.

actually that be achieved. Remembering those who made

:01:18.:01:23.

the ultimate sacrifice. Tributes will be paid later to those

:01:24.:01:26.

who lost their lives at the Battle of Passchendaele -

:01:27.:01:29.

as ceremonies are held to mark the 100 year anniversary

:01:30.:01:32.

of the start of the battle. At this time 100 years ago today the

:01:33.:01:37.

Battle of Passchendaele had already begun. The offensive was under way,

:01:38.:01:44.

the first British and Commonwealth soldiers had attacked, many are

:01:45.:01:48.

fallen and are buried here at Tyne Cot Cemetery, the biggest

:01:49.:01:51.

Commonwealth War Cemetery in the world. And from this summer it will

:01:52.:01:57.

be harder for schools to challenge exam results so are calling upon all

:01:58.:02:03.

schools to appeal against every GCSE and A-level results seems wrong.

:02:04.:02:12.

Good morning, it's two minutes past ten.

:02:13.:02:14.

Here's Julian in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:02:15.:02:17.

workers are to be recruited by the NHS in England.

:02:18.:02:21.

The Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, said the aim is to treat an extra

:02:22.:02:24.

The Royal College of Nursing has questioned how so many staff can

:02:25.:02:29.

be hired and trained in such a short space of time.

:02:30.:02:32.

We are confident that we can get these numbers. There are people who

:02:33.:02:38.

are trained in mental health nursing, people trained as

:02:39.:02:42.

psychiatrists who are not currently working in the NHS. We have a

:02:43.:02:45.

programme to attract them back into the NHS. What we want to say to them

:02:46.:02:51.

is that we probably have the biggest expansion in mental health provision

:02:52.:02:55.

in Europe going on at the moment, we are proud of what we are doing but

:02:56.:02:57.

we want to do a lot more. The United States says

:02:58.:03:00.

President Putin's decision to order 755 of its diplomatic staff to leave

:03:01.:03:02.

Russia is unjustified. They have been told

:03:03.:03:05.

to leave by 1st September. The move is in retaliation

:03:06.:03:07.

to new sanctions approved by the US Congress for Russia's alleged

:03:08.:03:10.

involvement in last year's presidential election

:03:11.:03:12.

and the annexation of Crimea. The Chancellor, Philip Hammond,

:03:13.:03:15.

appears to have stepped back from a suggestion that the UK

:03:16.:03:19.

could cut taxes and regulation in a bid to undercut EU

:03:20.:03:21.

countries after Brexit. In an interview with the French

:03:22.:03:24.

newspaper, Le Monde, he says the government has no plans

:03:25.:03:27.

to make big changes to tax policy in order

:03:28.:03:29.

to attract global investment. His remarks are in sharp

:03:30.:03:33.

contrast with what he said Afghan police say there's been

:03:34.:03:35.

a suicide explosion outside Several explosions were

:03:36.:03:41.

heard and a gun battle Civilians are being

:03:42.:03:49.

moved from the area. The so-called Islamic State group

:03:50.:03:52.

has claimed responsibility. The editor of The Sunday Times has

:03:53.:03:57.

apologised for an article suggesting the BBC presenters Claudia Winkleman

:03:58.:04:00.

and Vanessa Feltz earned high The article, by the

:04:01.:04:02.

columnist Kevin Myers, was published in the newspaper's

:04:03.:04:09.

Irish edition and online and has Speaking on BBC Radio London,

:04:10.:04:11.

Ms Feltz has expressed her I could not believe that such a

:04:12.:04:28.

thing had been printed, it is gratuitous. Not cleverly done.

:04:29.:04:32.

Blatant racism, that's all, just racism. When you write something it

:04:33.:04:38.

is read by the subeditor, by the features editor, supposedly by the

:04:39.:04:41.

legal team and by the editor. I could not understand how all those

:04:42.:04:45.

layers of command had allowed something so blatantly racist to be

:04:46.:04:46.

put in the paper. One in five MPs continues to employ

:04:47.:04:52.

a member of their family using taxpayers' money

:04:53.:04:55.

despite the practice being banned Of the 589 returning MPs,

:04:56.:04:57.

122 have declared the employment of a relative in the latest Register

:04:58.:05:01.

of Members' Financial Interests. None of the 61 new MPs

:05:02.:05:04.

who secured their seats at the General Election on June 8th

:05:05.:05:11.

are allowed to do so. Campaigners say there needs to be

:05:12.:05:14.

a clear end date for all MPs. The High Court will today

:05:15.:05:17.

decide whether Tony Blair, former Foreign Secretary Jack Straw

:05:18.:05:23.

and former attorney general Lord Goldsmith can be prosecuted

:05:24.:05:25.

over the 2003 Iraq War. The attempt to bring them

:05:26.:05:29.

to court was launched by a former Iraqi general

:05:30.:05:32.

Abdul-waheed al-Rabbat, who calls the invasion

:05:33.:05:34.

a "crime of aggression". Prince Charles will attend

:05:35.:05:38.

the second day of commemorations to mark the 100th anniversary

:05:39.:05:42.

of the start of the Battle soldiers were killed,

:05:43.:05:44.

wounded or went missing in action during the three months of fighting

:05:45.:05:51.

near the Belgian town of Ypres. Yesterday the Duke and Duchess

:05:52.:05:54.

of Cambridge attended a service with 200 descendents of those

:05:55.:05:59.

who fought there. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:06:00.:06:05.

News, more at 10.30. Thank you. A lot of people are

:06:06.:06:13.

getting in touch about the documentary going out at the weekend

:06:14.:06:17.

about Princess Diana. Audrey says, Princess Diana is not owned by the

:06:18.:06:22.

people. It is and dignified to put these tapes in the public arena. Her

:06:23.:06:28.

sons should take ownership of those tapes for her privacy. They don't

:06:29.:06:32.

own them, that is the problem. Another text, of course Diana

:06:33.:06:36.

talking about her private life should be shown, that was presumably

:06:37.:06:41.

the intention at the time that she participated in that film and

:06:42.:06:42.

conversation. Do get in touch with us

:06:43.:06:43.

throughout the morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

:06:44.:06:45.

and If you text, you will be charged The big news, England

:06:46.:06:48.

are through to the semifinals they beat France the first time

:06:49.:06:55.

in 43 years thanks to one goal from It was her fifth goal of the

:06:56.:07:07.

tournament. Our correspondent Katie Gornall was that the game. There are

:07:08.:07:12.

a view England players training today at their base in Utrecht but

:07:13.:07:16.

most have understandably been given time to rest and recover after that

:07:17.:07:21.

historic win over France last night. It may have taken 43 years but

:07:22.:07:25.

family England have beaten their rivals. They did so with another

:07:26.:07:30.

clinical performance in front of goal. Mark Sampson was full of

:07:31.:07:35.

praise for striker Jody Taylor who's had a handful of chances but already

:07:36.:07:40.

has scored five goals. She is on course not only

:07:41.:08:00.

to win the last four on Thursday. The team will no England very well

:08:01.:08:11.

and will be desperate to prove that they are better because England beat

:08:12.:08:15.

them last time. The capacity of the stadium is 30,000, after beating

:08:16.:08:20.

France England will fear no one and nothing at this tournament! Katie

:08:21.:08:25.

Gornall reporting. Only an almighty South African defence can stop

:08:26.:08:28.

England taking a series lead on the final day of the third test. Some

:08:29.:08:34.

big hitting from England meant they set South Africa a world record

:08:35.:08:39.

chase of 490 to win. England's bowlers took four wickets before

:08:40.:08:44.

close of play, two by Ben Stokes, South Africa resumed 375 runs

:08:45.:08:49.

behind, this morning. Lewis Hamilton sacrificed three vital points in the

:08:50.:08:53.

Hungarian Grand Prix when he kept a promise to his team mate at

:08:54.:08:57.

Mercedes, Hamilton was given permission to overtake Valtteri

:08:58.:09:00.

Bottas because he thought he could catch the two leading Ferraris. When

:09:01.:09:04.

he realised he couldn't, he allowed for Teddy Bottas to pass him again

:09:05.:09:11.

to take third place. -- Valtteri Bottas. Sebastian Vettel added to

:09:12.:09:16.

his championship lead. It wasn't easy, I didn't do a favour for Kimi

:09:17.:09:23.

I didn't have the pace. I did come back a bit, a couple of laps when I

:09:24.:09:26.

could breathe a bit although I did have to stay focused the whole race.

:09:27.:09:34.

Great Britain have entered the world swimming Championships in Hungary

:09:35.:09:39.

with seven medals. After the relay team four by 100 laps took silver,

:09:40.:09:44.

Adam Peaty dragged them into contention with a stunning lack, and

:09:45.:09:49.

they finished second to the USA. It's the third medal of the week

:09:50.:09:57.

Adam Peaty. -- he's won a stunning laptop Mac. Now back to you, Chloe.

:09:58.:10:00.

Thank you, Kat. It was one of the bloodiest battles

:10:01.:10:11.

of the Second World War. Conditions were so appalling that many drowned

:10:12.:10:21.

to death in mud. Before we go live to my colleague in Belgium this is a

:10:22.:10:28.

short film about what happened. -- one of the bloodiest battles of the

:10:29.:10:29.

First World War. Ben Brown is live at Tyne Cot

:10:30.:12:18.

Cemetery in Belgium. 100 years ago today, the Battle of Passchendaele

:12:19.:12:21.

was raging. It had begun in the early hours of the morning. The

:12:22.:12:25.

first British and Commonwealth troops had gone over the top. The

:12:26.:12:30.

first had fallen as well. Many of those who would die in the coming

:12:31.:12:34.

three months of the Battle of Passchendaele are buried here at the

:12:35.:12:38.

Tyne Cot Cemetery, the biggest Commonwealth war cemetery in the

:12:39.:12:41.

world. Later today Prince Charles and the Duke and Duchess of

:12:42.:12:46.

Cambridge will attend a special commemorative service. It was,

:12:47.:13:07.

as you have seen, a battle where British and Allied troops face not

:13:08.:13:11.

only German machine guns but also mud, many drowning in the sea of mud

:13:12.:13:14.

that the battlefield became, and mustard gas as well. Let's speak to

:13:15.:13:16.

the former England rugby captain Lewis Moody who has a special

:13:17.:13:18.

interest in the battle of Passchendaele. Tel us how you got

:13:19.:13:20.

interested. From my namesake, my great-grandfather's involvement

:13:21.:13:22.

coming over with the British expeditionary forces. I was here

:13:23.:13:25.

researching him and his regiment, the Royal Sussex when I got a text

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from my mother saying, we have a relative who is commemorative at

:13:30.:13:35.

Tyne Cot. I happened to be there at the time and could go and Tracy 's

:13:36.:13:40.

footsteps. He died on November six, at the tail end of the battle,

:13:41.:13:46.

having been through the Somme, almost making it through

:13:47.:13:51.

Passchendaele. He is commemorated on the wall at men in gate. Your

:13:52.:13:58.

mother's great uncle. When you come here what does it make you feel

:13:59.:14:01.

about the man who made such sacrifices 100 years ago. It's

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difficult to describe. When you come the doors, especially at Tyne Cot,

:14:07.:14:11.

the brutality, the blood and sacrifice that happened is now

:14:12.:14:18.

replaced with BT, serenity and calm. It's very moving. I broke down in

:14:19.:14:25.

tears one I found the place. It's so important to remember that not only

:14:26.:14:30.

our relatives but former rugby internationals who died there on

:14:31.:14:36.

this day, Arthur Wilson, Edgar Mobbs and other international players.

:14:37.:14:40.

It's important for me to be here and remember. Can you imagine what it

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would have been like to fight? From all that you have researched about

:14:45.:14:47.

the battle, give a picture of what it would be like because these

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fields are now so beautiful, serene and green, it was a morass of mud,

:14:53.:14:59.

the worst rains the 30 years. When you see the old pictures and now you

:15:00.:15:02.

see the beautiful trees, it was a wasteland with mud everywhere, to

:15:03.:15:08.

see what they went through, and Edgar Mobbs, and Northamptonshire

:15:09.:15:12.

man, and England international, he was refused entry into the army so

:15:13.:15:17.

he formed his own battalion with 240 men. They let him join and he died

:15:18.:15:23.

this year 100 years ago, as a Lieutenant Colonel because his

:15:24.:15:26.

battalion's advance was stored. He climbed out of the trench, his

:15:27.:15:31.

Second Lieutenant tried to pull him back in but he took it on

:15:32.:15:35.

single-handedly with a grenade and was sadly killed and his name is on

:15:36.:15:43.

the Menin Gate. The difficulties they had, the bunkers are still

:15:44.:15:46.

here, the German ones come across is placed on them as well, it shows you

:15:47.:15:48.

how difficult it must have been. We talk about the hell and the

:15:49.:15:58.

horror of Passchendaele, some joined up at the age of 15. They just

:15:59.:16:02.

wanted to be out here. I don't think you can put it into words or

:16:03.:16:08.

comprehend it now. You think of your kids joining up at 15 and being out

:16:09.:16:13.

here and some of those commemorated are 15, but how wide it was as well.

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From all corners of the earth people came and fought on this piece of

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land and died on this piece of land and the vast scale of the sacrifice

:16:21.:16:24.

when you walk through here is what really makes it important for me to

:16:25.:16:29.

try and pass it on to my children and the medals that I have from the

:16:30.:16:33.

various different sides of my family in the First World War and Earnest's

:16:34.:16:39.

involvement at Passchendaele, hopefully 80 or 90 years from now

:16:40.:16:43.

they are passing it on to their children as well. Lewis Moody there,

:16:44.:16:49.

former England rugby captain whose mother's great-uncle died in the

:16:50.:16:54.

Battle of Passchendaele. That's the latest from here.

:16:55.:16:59.

The High Court will make a ruling today on whether a former

:17:00.:17:02.

chief-of-staff of the Iraqi army can bring a private prosecution against

:17:03.:17:04.

Our legal correspondent Clive Coleman is at

:17:05.:17:08.

Tell us more about this case and who is bringing it and what it is about?

:17:09.:17:17.

He tried to bring it at Westminster Magistrates' Court last year. He was

:17:18.:17:22.

unsuccessful. The court ruled basically that Tony Blair, the

:17:23.:17:27.

former Prime Minister, the former Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw and

:17:28.:17:31.

Lord Goldsmith had implied immunity from prosecution because of their

:17:32.:17:35.

former Government roles, but the court also ruled that the crime that

:17:36.:17:41.

the general, his name is Abdul Wahed Shannan Al Rabbat. He is a former

:17:42.:17:46.

Chief-of-Staff of the Iraqi army. But the crime he was trying to have

:17:47.:17:50.

them prosecuted for is the crime of aggression. In other words, waging

:17:51.:17:55.

an aggressive war in breach of the United Nations charter, but the

:17:56.:17:59.

court back last year ruled that the crime of aggression was not a crime

:18:00.:18:04.

in our domestic English law. These proceedings at the High Court are in

:18:05.:18:07.

an appeal against that decision. Now, what was argued on the

:18:08.:18:13.

General's behalf was that the crime of aggression was wrapped and had

:18:14.:18:20.

been in our domestic law and when the former Nazi leaders were

:18:21.:18:22.

prosecuted after the Second World War, it was done on the basis that

:18:23.:18:26.

the crime of aggression was part of our UK law. However, critically,

:18:27.:18:33.

there was a ruling in 2006 that the fore runners of the spraol court,

:18:34.:18:37.

that crime, the crime of aggression does not apply in UK law. It didn't

:18:38.:18:42.

form part of UK law and Parliament would have to pass an acof

:18:43.:18:45.

Parliament to make it part of UK law. So, today we will get a ruling.

:18:46.:18:50.

If the general is successful, then the matter would go back to the

:18:51.:18:53.

Supreme Court and they would have to consider whether that decision back

:18:54.:18:58.

in 2006, which said that the crime of aggression doesn't apply in our

:18:59.:19:02.

law was correct or not. Many commentators think it is a high bar

:19:03.:19:06.

for the general to pass. It is unlikely that the court will rule in

:19:07.:19:09.

his favour, but we'll find out whether they have done in a matter

:19:10.:19:14.

of minutes from now. So, I will come back on and tell you what happened.

:19:15.:19:19.

I want to ask you the implications of this. Give us a wider sense of

:19:20.:19:22.

the significance of this kind of action? Well, I mean, if it is

:19:23.:19:28.

established that a crime of aggression is a crime that can be

:19:29.:19:32.

prosecuted under our law it means that our political leaders, if they

:19:33.:19:35.

take the country into the war and they do so unlawfully, and in breach

:19:36.:19:39.

of the United Nations charter, it means that they can be held

:19:40.:19:43.

responsible and prosecuted in a British court for the crime of

:19:44.:19:48.

aggression. So, it is a very, very significant ruling. At the moment

:19:49.:19:53.

they have it this implied immunity from prosecution, but if the law

:19:54.:19:58.

changes on that, that's a very, very major step and huge ramifications

:19:59.:20:02.

for those critical and very important vital decisions for the

:20:03.:20:07.

nation where if the law changed our political leaders could be held

:20:08.:20:09.

responsible in the criminal courts. That would be a major change. Clive,

:20:10.:20:15.

we will come back to you, as and when you have an update for us from

:20:16.:20:17.

the High Court. It's several years since

:20:18.:20:20.

the Government pledged to put mental health provision on an equal footing

:20:21.:20:23.

with other health services, but many patients still struggle

:20:24.:20:25.

to access the services they need. It's a problem we've covered

:20:26.:20:28.

extensively on this programme. So will plans to recruit more

:20:29.:20:30.

than 20,000 extra mental health The plans involve increasing

:20:31.:20:33.

the number of trained nurses, therapists, psychiatrists and other

:20:34.:20:36.

mental health professionals by 2021. Earlier, The Health Secretary Jeremy

:20:37.:20:38.

Hunt explained the numbers to Naga Munchetty on BBC Breakfast

:20:39.:20:42.

and said nurses have He said that nurses have never

:20:43.:20:45.

worked harder. The 21,000 number

:20:46.:20:57.

is for posts overall. That isn't just nurses,

:20:58.:20:59.

that is psychiatrists, that is therapists who help people

:21:00.:21:00.

with conditions like depression and anxiety, and nurses,

:21:01.:21:03.

and people working in different But nurses are a very,

:21:04.:21:05.

very important part of it, and we are confident that we can

:21:06.:21:10.

get these numbers. There are people who are trained

:21:11.:21:14.

in mental health nursing, people who are trained

:21:15.:21:16.

as psychiatrists who are not currently working in the NHS,

:21:17.:21:18.

and we have a programme to attract And what we want to say to them

:21:19.:21:21.

is that we probably have the biggest expansion in mental health provision

:21:22.:21:30.

in Europe going on at the moment. We're proud of what we're doing,

:21:31.:21:33.

but we want to do a lot more. We still have too many people

:21:34.:21:41.

in this country who, where a young life is blighted, because we're not

:21:42.:21:44.

getting them the mental health care There are too many older people

:21:45.:21:47.

who are living in isolation and suffering and depression

:21:48.:21:54.

and they think it is automatic and This is a very important issue,

:21:55.:21:57.

I don't think anyone would deny that, and when it is such

:21:58.:22:01.

an important issue, I wonder how you think you're going to recruit

:22:02.:22:04.

nurses when there is a 1% pay cap, when it seems that all you're

:22:05.:22:07.

going to be doing is, what, placing advertisements for a job

:22:08.:22:10.

which many think is underpaid, low-paid, and your pay rise

:22:11.:22:13.

is going to be less than inflation, so you're actually earning less

:22:14.:22:16.

money each year doing a job It is a very tough job,

:22:17.:22:18.

and I would say that nurses on the front-line have

:22:19.:22:24.

never worked harder. But we are expanding

:22:25.:22:26.

the nursing workforce. We have nearly 6,000 more

:22:27.:22:27.

nurses on the front line One of the reasons that we have been

:22:28.:22:30.

able to expand the workforce to date is because with a limited budget

:22:31.:22:38.

and very difficult economic situation, we have

:22:39.:22:41.

shown pay discipline. Earlier we spoke to Mandy Stevens

:22:42.:23:23.

and Paul Farmer from MIND and Stephanie from the Royal College of

:23:24.:23:26.

Nursing. We would welcome it. Anything that addresses the issues

:23:27.:23:30.

that we have got around parity of he is seem around mental health is

:23:31.:23:34.

important. In terms of recruit, retain and retrain that how is that

:23:35.:23:39.

actually going to happen? So we think they're laudable ambition, but

:23:40.:23:41.

there is very little detail in the plan about how that's going to be

:23:42.:23:46.

achieved. So to deliver the number of staff, that Jeremy Hunt is

:23:47.:23:49.

talking about, when would these people need to start their training?

:23:50.:23:52.

How quickly would you need to get people? If you're looking at

:23:53.:23:56.

recruiting into post for 2020, they need to be recruited interest this

:23:57.:24:02.

September. And with the changes in student funding at pre-registration

:24:03.:24:04.

level then there are real challenges around that. We know currently that

:24:05.:24:08.

it is less attractive and the numbers are down for recruitment for

:24:09.:24:12.

September. I think the challenge is at the moment we have a huge amount

:24:13.:24:18.

of inconsistency in terms of what people experience locally on the

:24:19.:24:21.

ground and often that's because of the very huge variety of staff

:24:22.:24:25.

availability and staff capability as well. So and we have never had a

:24:26.:24:29.

plan for mental health staff before. So this is the first time that we

:24:30.:24:33.

are seeing those kinds of elements coming into play. But it's a big

:24:34.:24:38.

challenge to get there over the next four to five years. What do you

:24:39.:24:48.

think needs to change and to retain them? There is a lot of stigma

:24:49.:24:51.

around mental health. There is something about, I would support any

:24:52.:24:56.

campaign that actually really makes clear what the value contribution

:24:57.:24:59.

people who work with those with mental health in a range of

:25:00.:25:01.

different roles, but particularly for us in nursing. Actually add in

:25:02.:25:06.

terms of that. There is huge job satisfaction. But job satisfaction

:25:07.:25:10.

isn't enough. People also need recognition and they need to be able

:25:11.:25:15.

to actually feel that they are able to support themselves and their

:25:16.:25:17.

families and loved ones in the role that they are and actually, we have

:25:18.:25:22.

seen that the pay has actually, the value of your pay has gone down for

:25:23.:25:28.

nurse over the years and that's why we have launched our Scrap The Cut

:25:29.:25:35.

Campaign. People need recognition. I wonder do you think this is going to

:25:36.:25:39.

put mental health services on a par with physical services for example?

:25:40.:25:43.

Well, we really welcome the plan and I think it is going to go a long way

:25:44.:25:47.

to support and engage a forward movement, but I think there is still

:25:48.:25:51.

a long way to go. It's great in the document they are talking about, I

:25:52.:25:55.

think it is 5,000 staff coming into crisis services. So when people are

:25:56.:26:01.

desperate and really need urgent care, there is somebody immediately

:26:02.:26:04.

available. It doesn't happen now, does it in into it does, but it's

:26:05.:26:08.

patchy across the country. So again my experience was great, but it is

:26:09.:26:12.

not everywhere. And where you have long waiting lists and things, but

:26:13.:26:15.

the most important thing with all health care is to support people to

:26:16.:26:19.

stay well and safe at home in the community. So putting all the

:26:20.:26:24.

resources into preventative mental health care and community services

:26:25.:26:27.

to keep people safe and well which will then prevent people getting

:26:28.:26:30.

more unwell and needing to come into hospital for example. So, I'm

:26:31.:26:37.

hopeful that through counselling therapy, support services, community

:26:38.:26:41.

psychiatric nurses and in liaison with the voluntary sector we can

:26:42.:26:44.

support people to stay well at home because then it's better for the

:26:45.:26:48.

people, better for the families and better for our communities and it's

:26:49.:26:52.

also a lot cheaper than coming into hospital and using expensive

:26:53.:26:54.

resource and it's just very traumatic.

:26:55.:27:00.

Let's speak to the Shadow Mental Health Minister Barbara Keeley.

:27:01.:27:05.

Would you recognise what we heard from many people that this is a good

:27:06.:27:11.

start? Well, of course, it is good to have an ambition to increase

:27:12.:27:15.

dramatically the number of staff working in mental health services

:27:16.:27:19.

and particularly in crisis services because the very recent report the

:27:20.:27:22.

Care Quality Commission pointed out that staffing was the key issue

:27:23.:27:26.

causing a problem with patient safety and we know that it's very

:27:27.:27:31.

difficult to get access to things like eating disorder services, it's

:27:32.:27:36.

very difficult for people with children and mental health for them

:27:37.:27:39.

to get access to the treatment they need. Of course, it's welcome, but

:27:40.:27:42.

let's be realistic, that's what we are saying this morning, let's be

:27:43.:27:46.

realistic. It takes time to train a nurse and there is a big workforce

:27:47.:27:49.

recruitment crisis at the moment because of the pay and morale and

:27:50.:27:53.

conditions issue that you've just heard about. But as we heard from

:27:54.:28:00.

the gentleman Paul Farmer from the charity MIND there has never been a

:28:01.:28:04.

plan before and there is, he said, there has never been a plan so you

:28:05.:28:07.

have to start somewhere and at least now it is being recognised and there

:28:08.:28:11.

is an attempt to put mental health services on a par with physical

:28:12.:28:14.

health services? I always feel that we are a long way from that. So

:28:15.:28:18.

that's always a strange way to talk about it. I mean, clearly, you are

:28:19.:28:23.

not in a situation when I talked about children and young people, 23%

:28:24.:28:26.

of children and young people are referred by their GP for trelt get

:28:27.:28:29.

turned away. That doesn't happen with physical health and it is part

:28:30.:28:32.

of the problem that we've got in the lack of parity between the two, but

:28:33.:28:35.

that's not the most important thing. The most important thing is we get

:28:36.:28:40.

the staffing levels up. That we get the service levels up and we improve

:28:41.:28:43.

access and for that really the funding has to be sorted out and

:28:44.:28:49.

people have been questioning this morning whether this ?1 billion part

:28:50.:28:53.

funding can go anywhere meeting the targets of thousands of staff? I

:28:54.:28:57.

don't argue with the numbers in any way, shape or form, apart from the

:28:58.:29:03.

fact that the 4600 extra mental health nurses would not even take us

:29:04.:29:07.

back to where we were in 2010, but it takes 13 years to train a

:29:08.:29:11.

psychiatrist. So let's be realistic about where we can be by 2020

:29:12.:29:17.

#2021. We heard there are maeb people who are trained to decided to

:29:18.:29:22.

leave the profession or haven't been able to get paid jobs. One lady said

:29:23.:29:28.

she trained many counsellors and they couldn't get paid jobs. If

:29:29.:29:32.

those people can be pooled together and you can bring in the people who

:29:33.:29:36.

have been trained, they would be ready to go now? Yes, they would.

:29:37.:29:40.

The other thing I would like to see Jeremy Hunt announcing when he talks

:29:41.:29:45.

about funding, any extra funding for mental health he talks about

:29:46.:29:47.

ring-fencing because we have seen attempts by the Government to put

:29:48.:29:53.

extra funding into mental health services and NHS bodies siphon the

:29:54.:29:56.

money off and use it for other things. We have had this loss of

:29:57.:30:00.

mental health nurses so we've got crisis problems and problems on

:30:01.:30:03.

wards, we've got problems with community resources. The very

:30:04.:30:06.

community resources which can be so valuable. So we're not into early

:30:07.:30:09.

intervention and prevention because those resources have been cut back

:30:10.:30:13.

and the voluntary sector has been cut back worse than any other part

:30:14.:30:17.

of this sector at the moment. So, those things need to be addressed. I

:30:18.:30:23.

would really like to see the Government ring-fence funding for

:30:24.:30:29.

mental health. Thank you very much for speaking to us.

:30:30.:30:38.

The change that's going to make it harder to appeal against GCSE

:30:39.:30:42.

We ask the chief regulator of exams why the change is being made.

:30:43.:30:47.

Prince Charles will attend a special ceremony being held later,

:30:48.:30:51.

to mark the 100-year anniversary of the start of the Battle

:30:52.:30:54.

of Passchendale, one of the bloodiest battles

:30:55.:30:56.

Here's Julian in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:30:57.:31:05.

Thousands of extra mental health workers are to be recruited

:31:06.:31:08.

Jeremy Hunt, said the aim is to treat an extra one million

:31:09.:31:14.

The Royal College of Nursing has questioned how so many staff can be

:31:15.:31:18.

hired and trained in such a short space of time.

:31:19.:31:20.

The United States says President Putin's decision to order

:31:21.:31:24.

755 of its diplomatic staff to leave Russia is unjustified.

:31:25.:31:28.

They have been told to leave by 1st September.

:31:29.:31:34.

The move is in retaliation to new sanctions approved by the US

:31:35.:31:37.

Congress for Russia's alleged involvement in last year's

:31:38.:31:39.

presidential election and the annexation of Crimea.

:31:40.:31:42.

The Chancellor, Philip Hammond, appears to have stepped back

:31:43.:31:46.

from a suggestion that the UK could cut taxes and regulation

:31:47.:31:49.

in a bid to undercut EU countries after Brexit.

:31:50.:31:52.

In an interview with the French newspaper, Le Monde,

:31:53.:31:54.

he says the government has no plans to make big changes

:31:55.:31:58.

to tax policy in order to attract global investment.

:31:59.:32:01.

His remarks are in sharp contrast with what he said

:32:02.:32:03.

Afghan police say there's been a suicide explosion outside

:32:04.:32:10.

Several explosions were heard and a gun battle

:32:11.:32:15.

Civilians are being moved from the area.

:32:16.:32:18.

The so-called Islamic State group has claimed responsibility.

:32:19.:32:28.

Breaking news, the High Court has blocked a bid to bring a private

:32:29.:32:35.

prosecution against Tony Blair, former Foreign Secretary Jack Straw

:32:36.:32:39.

and former Attorney General Lord Goldsmith over the 2003 Iraq war.

:32:40.:32:42.

The attempt to bring them to court was launched

:32:43.:32:44.

by a former Iraqi general Abdul-waheed al-Rabbat,

:32:45.:32:46.

who calls the invasion a "crime of aggression".

:32:47.:32:55.

Here's some sport now with Kat Downes.

:32:56.:33:06.

England need six more wickets to take a lead in the Test series

:33:07.:33:13.

against South Africa, South Africa are 375 runs behind.

:33:14.:33:18.

England are through to the semifinals of the women's Euros,

:33:19.:33:20.

they beat France the first time in 43 years thanks to one goal from

:33:21.:33:23.

They face a host nation the Netherlands in the final.

:33:24.:33:32.

Lewis Hamilton sacrificed three vital points in the

:33:33.:33:34.

Hungarian Grand Prix when he kept a promise to his team mate at

:33:35.:33:37.

Mercedes, Hamilton was given permission to overtake Valtteri

:33:38.:33:39.

Bottas because he thought he could catch the two leading Ferraris.

:33:40.:33:42.

When he realised he couldn't, he allowed

:33:43.:33:44.

for Teddy Bottas to pass him again to take third place.

:33:45.:33:46.

Great Britain have entered the world swimming Championships in Hungary

:33:47.:33:49.

After the relay team four by 100 laps took silver,

:33:50.:33:52.

Adam Peaty dragged them into contention

:33:53.:33:54.

with a stunning lap and

:33:55.:33:55.

Adam Peaty already had two gold medals to his name.

:33:56.:34:02.

One of the highest paid footballers in the world, Cristiano Ronaldo, is

:34:03.:34:09.

in court today accused of tax Ford. He is accused of defrauding the

:34:10.:34:14.

authorities of the equivalent of ?30 million. Richard Conway is there.

:34:15.:34:18.

What exactly is Ronaldo accused of doing, Richard? Cristiano Ronaldo,

:34:19.:34:25.

I'm at the Court has just north of Madrid and he's inside giving

:34:26.:34:28.

evidence to a judge in a pre-trial hearing. He is accused of

:34:29.:34:32.

withholding information about his income, about keeping some of that

:34:33.:34:39.

income offshore in a shell company outside Spain and not declaring a

:34:40.:34:44.

large amount of money, several millions of pounds, relating to his

:34:45.:34:48.

image rights. He has said, my conscience is clear. It's very busy

:34:49.:34:53.

here. I'm going to get the camera to move around to show you the level of

:34:54.:34:58.

interest. There are maybe 40 TV cameras here from all around the

:34:59.:35:03.

world, 120 journalists in all. Ronaldo didn't arrive through the

:35:04.:35:07.

front entrance as we thought, he's gone into a side door but within the

:35:08.:35:13.

next hour or so he will appear on the courtroom steps behind me to

:35:14.:35:18.

address the world's media and we are expecting a defiant mood. He is

:35:19.:35:23.

clearly angry about this, at one stage he threatened to leave Real

:35:24.:35:27.

Madrid and Spain and move overseas, such was his anger about these

:35:28.:35:34.

charges. Perhaps we will cure more from him, protesting his innocence

:35:35.:35:37.

when he will appear shortly to address the media and explain how he

:35:38.:35:41.

feels about this case. Thank you, Richard. I am sure we will head back

:35:42.:35:44.

when you have more news for us. Now, waiting for GCSE and A level

:35:45.:35:50.

results is bad enough without the worry that the marks

:35:51.:35:52.

might not be accurate. Every year thousands of grades

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are challenged and many of them Because you have to pay to lodge

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an appeal, it's generally private schools who are more likely

:35:58.:36:01.

to challenge results. From this summer the exams regulator

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Ofqual is tightening up the rules for appeals,

:36:04.:36:06.

partly to stop more wealthy pupils getting their grades improved,

:36:07.:36:08.

simply because their schools But is the regulator doing enough

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to make sure the grades Let's talk now to Michelle Meadows,

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Director for Strategy, Risk and Research from the chief

:36:17.:36:20.

regulator of exams, Ofqual. Jack Lane had one of his A-Level

:36:21.:36:23.

exam papers wrongly marked. If it hadn't been for the fact

:36:24.:36:27.

he had an unconditional offer from his university,

:36:28.:36:31.

it could have cost him his place. Mike Buchanan is headmaster

:36:32.:36:35.

at Ashford School, which is And Kim Knappett, teacher

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at a comprehensive in South London and a member

:36:38.:36:44.

of the ATL Union, that's the Association

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of Teachers and Lecturers. Thank you all for coming in. Jack,

:36:47.:36:57.

what happened to you. I had an English paper re-marked three years

:36:58.:37:01.

ago. Luckily I've been to university, I have done it all!

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Started on a D, moved up to a B, a 21 points disparity. By wrote an

:37:11.:37:15.

open letter saying I think it was appalling that that's disparity

:37:16.:37:19.

could exist, -- wrote a letter. Had I not been able to afford the

:37:20.:37:24.

re-marking I would have been this intensive dis- incentivised from

:37:25.:37:32.

getting the Mark I deserved. You had to pay ?50? May be about ?40 at the

:37:33.:37:37.

time. How long did it take for the second mark to come through. Just a

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couple of weeks although too late for a university place if that had

:37:43.:37:46.

not happened. I know some universities differ, when they take

:37:47.:37:50.

their offers but it's more about accommodation, how do you apply for

:37:51.:37:53.

everything surrounding the university when your place can be up

:37:54.:37:58.

north, down south, when it differs so much for each individual student.

:37:59.:38:02.

I think it affects you much more than just which university you will

:38:03.:38:08.

go to. Kim, how common is this kind of story? It comes and goes in

:38:09.:38:12.

waves. I am from a state school and we have to make a very difficult

:38:13.:38:16.

choice about whether we ask for any re-marking. Many schools are in

:38:17.:38:28.

deficit, with their budget, and of course we have all the changes to

:38:29.:38:34.

the GCS E but with the new 1- man marking for English and maths so

:38:35.:38:39.

students are not confident about what they should be getting that

:38:40.:38:48.

1-9. We don't know if we should be asking for re-marks. Mike, do have

:38:49.:38:52.

this a lot at your private school. Two put it in context almost 70,000

:38:53.:39:02.

changes resulted in greater changes. 90 or 70,000 individuals or

:39:03.:39:05.

potential individuals who haven't got the right grades. That can't be

:39:06.:39:10.

acceptable and I see it in my school every year. And across the schools

:39:11.:39:18.

that I represent as chair at a head teachers conference, youngsters are

:39:19.:39:24.

missing out on university places, jobs, sixth form places, because we

:39:25.:39:26.

don't have a system that does the job right. If any student at your

:39:27.:39:34.

school is not happy would you automatically go for a re-mark? We

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would not. We would look if it was a realistic disparity from our view

:39:41.:39:44.

and the evidence we have about their ability and the mark. And that is

:39:45.:39:48.

the case that was referred to in the Sunday Times article, where, you

:39:49.:39:53.

know, students were getting great way out off-line with what would be

:39:54.:40:00.

reasonable to expect of them and compared to their other subjects. It

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took nine months to resolve. That can't be acceptable. Michelle,

:40:07.:40:12.

respond. 70,000 exam grades changing last summer, surely that can't be

:40:13.:40:19.

right. Errors such as the one that Jack experienced are clearly not

:40:20.:40:22.

acceptable but we must put them in context. Each year, around 8 million

:40:23.:40:29.

qualification grades are awarded. GCSEs and A-levels. We have

:40:30.:40:37.

safeguards in place that if teachers believe there to be an error in the

:40:38.:40:43.

marking, they can go for a review of that marking. And even then, if they

:40:44.:40:47.

are not happy following the review of the marking, there's an appeals

:40:48.:40:52.

process as well. At the end of all of those checks and balances, less

:40:53.:40:59.

than 1% of all grades actually change through the process. But this

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is such a critical time, if you are sitting GCSEs or A-levels this is

:41:05.:41:08.

your whole future ahead of you. I'm fascinated. Who mocks the paper

:41:09.:41:13.

committees and teachers? I don't think many people know. 34,000

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examiners are involved and the vast majority of them are teachers. Do

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they get paid by paper. Varane four examples and they have different

:41:34.:41:37.

ways of Pagan. Sometimes it can be by entire paper and sometimes by

:41:38.:41:40.

individual questions. You would worry about that because if you are

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in front of a computer screen because I guess that is the way they

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market rather than a physical paper? The vast majority of marking is done

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in that way. If you know you are being paid per paper you are going

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to make mistakes. You will think, if I get this one I make more money.

:42:01.:42:09.

The systems have vastly improved partly because now there is an man

:42:10.:42:14.

marking. As to just sign up to mark first they are trained in marking,

:42:15.:42:20.

before they are allowed to mark them as to do a test if you like of some

:42:21.:42:25.

scripts and marking to make sure they are applying the marks

:42:26.:42:30.

correctly. Once they have done that they were be released on to live

:42:31.:42:36.

marking. This quality assurance is happening all the time so questions

:42:37.:42:45.

come up by senior examiners that have a definitive mark that we know

:42:46.:42:48.

the right mark for and if markers don't mark accurately according to

:42:49.:42:53.

that definitive mark and they are retrained. And yet nearly 20% of

:42:54.:43:04.

those inquiries were changed, that's 70,000 changes a year, Michelle is

:43:05.:43:08.

quite rightly talking about the robustness of the system, we are

:43:09.:43:14.

talking about two different things, a system and individuals. And I am

:43:15.:43:18.

interested in having reliable results for the individuals, and

:43:19.:43:21.

where there are mistakes, making sure they are put right quickly and

:43:22.:43:28.

without fuss and without cost. Because not all my parents but some

:43:29.:43:35.

of them can afford to have those re-marks yet most cannot. If they

:43:36.:43:40.

can afford private school fees they can probably afford ?40 for the

:43:41.:43:45.

future of their children. That's an assumption. But it is true, not like

:43:46.:43:53.

some parents who have to have free school meals, I have heard that some

:43:54.:43:57.

teachers mark one way and others not another and there is an area of the

:43:58.:44:02.

change, surely that cannot be right. Surely if you are marking a paper

:44:03.:44:07.

that is 68, or 81, a set mark that everyone must get. The kind of marks

:44:08.:44:15.

we have in this country especially for English literature, that often

:44:16.:44:20.

essay responses and they will sometimes be differences of opinion

:44:21.:44:23.

between different teachers looking at the quality of the work. Some of

:44:24.:44:28.

these differences of opinion are quite legitimate and some of them

:44:29.:44:30.

are errors. And it's incredibly important that the safeguard, if an

:44:31.:44:40.

error has been made and the review is done that errors are corrected no

:44:41.:44:45.

matter how small. But we don't want to see is one legitimate mark being

:44:46.:44:50.

changed for another legitimate mark. What we had under the old system of

:44:51.:44:55.

reviews... How can they be two legitimate marks are the same paper,

:44:56.:44:59.

I don't understand. Surely if you are working hard you want to know

:45:00.:45:03.

there is one mark and you don't want one person who might give you 68 and

:45:04.:45:07.

another person might give you 73 for the same paper, that isn't fair.

:45:08.:45:14.

Sorry. Going to support Michelle, in some subjects that are a range of

:45:15.:45:18.

marks which are quite legitimate. The difficulty is, the system has

:45:19.:45:23.

hard boundaries. And those hard boundaries are working with what I

:45:24.:45:27.

would describe as soggy marking. It doesn't mean it is incorrect

:45:28.:45:32.

marking, just that it is variable. In most other circumstances, if I am

:45:33.:45:35.

an engineer I work to a particular tolerance and it is way below 20%,

:45:36.:45:41.

it might be 1-5% tolerance and the system doesn't suit that. I am a

:45:42.:45:49.

science teacher and a lot of the answers in science are right or

:45:50.:45:54.

wrong but we have encouraged and done lot more with longer answers

:45:55.:45:57.

and it is very easy for a long answer that is worth six marks to be

:45:58.:46:02.

given three marks or five marks. And that can so easily be the difference

:46:03.:46:08.

between a grade and where everything at GCSE in particular is about the

:46:09.:46:13.

magic C or about the magic four or five that is what is difficult for

:46:14.:46:18.

the student Dexter. It's not always about whether it is one or two

:46:19.:46:23.

marks, it is about the grade and what you will have fewer feature.

:46:24.:46:30.

Lewis tweeted, "Examineners do make mistakes." Another viewer says, "On

:46:31.:46:39.

my brother's A-level exam, the examener missed out a 16 mark

:46:40.:46:44.

question. It took four weeks for the remark to come back meaning he lost

:46:45.:46:49.

his place at Bristol University." Another viewer said I had an A and

:46:50.:47:00.

it was markeds a B. I'm sure it was meant to be a B. Public schools do

:47:01.:47:04.

remarks on block because they can afford it. Joshua says, "Teachers

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are paid to mark papers and they should mark them correctly and

:47:11.:47:14.

accurately. Results day is stressful enough." You are nodding. I'm sure

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the marking does differ, but I have had cases reported to me and my own

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personal experience was a 21 mark difference. Luckily, it wasn't going

:47:25.:47:28.

to affect my place at university, but if we're going to continue to be

:47:29.:47:32.

classified as students in a system that's going to grade us from E to A

:47:33.:47:38.

star whatever body is responsible of giving us the marks needs to be held

:47:39.:47:42.

to a higher standard because 21 marks to me, didn't make a

:47:43.:47:46.

difference. To my friend, 40 marks made a difference. Other people

:47:47.:47:52.

reporting all over the country with these massive grade differences, two

:47:53.:47:55.

or three marks, four or five marks, I'm sure we can understand and

:47:56.:47:59.

forgive when it comes back and you say oh, actually you did deserve the

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A, it was a higher A, but you still deserved the A, it impacts not just

:48:09.:48:12.

people going to university, but people applying for apprentice Shis

:48:13.:48:15.

and it is going to atected them for the rest of their lives. Is the

:48:16.:48:19.

problem been that too many private schools have been going for the

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remark and if you look at the remarks, if you are within a

:48:23.:48:26.

boundary often those marks go up? So it means that people who can afford

:48:27.:48:31.

it, benefit by getting a second bite of the cherry if you likes? I refute

:48:32.:48:35.

the idea that lots of schools who can afford it put in block remarks.

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They can't do that because they have to have the agreement of the

:48:40.:48:45.

individual candidates in any case and there are more strenuous tests

:48:46.:48:48.

for remarks. The issue is a financial one. In what other public

:48:49.:48:52.

service does it cost you to complain about something? I can't think of

:48:53.:48:58.

any. A brief response. It is important that teachers and students

:48:59.:49:01.

appreciate that if a grade changes through the remarking process they

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will not be charged. So, if they are certain there is a mistake, I would

:49:08.:49:12.

enkunlg them to go for a review of marking. They still have to pay

:49:13.:49:18.

upfront. Where else and in what other public service do you have to

:49:19.:49:22.

pay upfront before you can even complain?

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This morning we've been remembering the Battle of Passchendaele -

:49:28.:49:29.

one of the deadliest battles of the First World War.

:49:30.:49:35.

It began on this day 100 years ago and raged for three months

:49:36.:49:38.

Half a million soldiers lost their lives, but the gains were small.

:49:39.:49:49.

It moved the British front-line forward just five miles.

:49:50.:49:52.

It was trench warfare at its most brutal.

:49:53.:49:53.

In the next half an hour a commemorative service

:49:54.:49:56.

is being held in Belgium, which the Prime Minister

:49:57.:49:58.

and the Duke and Dutchess of Cambridge will attend.

:49:59.:50:01.

We can talk to Lydia Lobb whose great-grandfather John Butcher

:50:02.:50:04.

Now, your great-grandfather was Australian. He fought for the allied

:50:05.:50:12.

forces. Did he ever talk much to you about Passchendaele? Well, he passed

:50:13.:50:18.

away in 1977 and I was born in the 80s so I didn't meet him. What I

:50:19.:50:22.

have heard, so he kept this detailed war diary in the form of three

:50:23.:50:25.

pocket books actually that was written in pencil and when he got

:50:26.:50:29.

back he wrote over it in pen and then it was later transcribed by his

:50:30.:50:36.

son. But what I've heard is that my oldest auntie on my mum's side asked

:50:37.:50:42.

him when she was little, grandpa what the war like and he said,

:50:43.:50:46.

"Love, you don't want to know." Did he ever open up? I heard so many

:50:47.:50:51.

really harrowing tales of people who have almost taken it to the grave.

:50:52.:50:55.

They haven't wanted to impart the true horror on their loved ones and

:50:56.:50:59.

others who have been able to open up and they have almost felt a sense of

:51:00.:51:03.

relief? Well, I guess, keeping this diary, I guess, must have been

:51:04.:51:07.

somewhat car that is rightic. They weren't allowed to go into much

:51:08.:51:13.

detail in case it fell into the wrong hands, but through this diary

:51:14.:51:17.

we are lucky enough to get that first hand insight into just what it

:51:18.:51:21.

must have been like from, you know, a really top line point of view. And

:51:22.:51:27.

I am aware that the family knew these diaries existed. I think that

:51:28.:51:32.

they had probably read some of it. So whilst maybe he didn't want to

:51:33.:51:40.

talk about it, you know, day-to-day, understandably, from what I've

:51:41.:51:44.

heard, luckily for my family, it didn't change his character. He was

:51:45.:51:48.

a lovely gentle man through right until the end, but you hear so many

:51:49.:51:54.

stories of, you know, soldiers who come back hose characters were

:51:55.:51:58.

really badly affected so luckily for my family that didn't seem to be the

:51:59.:52:02.

case. You talk about his diary. I know it is on display in Australia?

:52:03.:52:07.

That's right. You have got ex-hearts that you have got with you? That's

:52:08.:52:12.

right. So he was actually in the war for just over two years. And he was

:52:13.:52:21.

injured three times. During the battles. Both of those times he was

:52:22.:52:26.

sent back to the UK to recover and sent back to the front. The third

:52:27.:52:31.

time he was injured severely at the Battle of Passchendaele and sent

:52:32.:52:34.

back to the UK and was discharged and went home, but I have a couple

:52:35.:52:41.

of exerts. The first is during the battle where he says this is 12th

:52:42.:52:47.

July 1916. "Hope that Rob will never be in the same tonight that I was."

:52:48.:52:52.

Rob was his younger brother whose birthday actually fell on 12th July.

:52:53.:52:56.

Colonel Feathers tells us that we will soon be in it. For king and

:52:57.:53:01.

country, not so nice as it sounds. Looks well on books and paper,

:53:02.:53:06.

honour rolls, should but should be tried first." Prior to him being

:53:07.:53:10.

injured for the first time on 27th July. He says, "Slept in shell hole.

:53:11.:53:15.

Country ruined with shell holes. German dug-outs very deep and well

:53:16.:53:20.

made. Dead bodies and piecing lying about. Artillery around us, 18

:53:21.:53:31.

pounders. Tommies, Australians and Germans lying dead all along the

:53:32.:53:34.

road. Shall consider myself lucky if I get through." He talks the next

:53:35.:53:40.

few entries, it goes on in this fashion. That was one of the most

:53:41.:53:45.

detailed entries in fact, but then he says on 1st August. "Had a good

:53:46.:53:51.

breakfast and also some rum. On fatigue again at night, but got hit

:53:52.:53:58.

on a lay up, crawled into a station and waited for stretcher bearers."

:53:59.:54:04.

The second time he was injured was during a battle and on 1st August,

:54:05.:54:09.

he had gone back to the UK and was just about to be sent back to the

:54:10.:54:14.

front and says, "Warned for draft proceed overseas, it is raining like

:54:15.:54:18.

the devil. Read of another big battle on the Western Front. That's

:54:19.:54:25.

the Battle of Passchendaele. On 21st September, he says, "Took over line

:54:26.:54:30.

from seventh brigade. Wounded about midnight." Then there were no real

:54:31.:54:35.

entries because after that apart from when he then made it to

:54:36.:54:41.

England, there were no proper entries because he suffered a head

:54:42.:54:47.

wound and he was on the on site hospital until then and was sent

:54:48.:54:52.

back to Australia and suffered some level of paralysis for the rest of

:54:53.:54:56.

his life. Lydia, it is really moving to hear some of what he has written

:54:57.:55:01.

and get some kind of sense of the horrors he went through. Thank you

:55:02.:55:03.

for sharing that with us. Many poems have been written

:55:04.:55:06.

to try and put into words One of the most famous

:55:07.:55:09.

is by the World War One Here to recite his work

:55:10.:55:13.

Memorial Tablet, written in 1918, Why is it that war poetry resonates

:55:14.:55:35.

for us 100 years on? Well, I think that people turn to poetry in times

:55:36.:55:39.

of loss and in times of bereavement, that's one reason. Another reason is

:55:40.:55:45.

that the World War I poets were a unique generation. A certain

:55:46.:55:50.

historical circumstances came combined, I think, to create this

:55:51.:56:00.

remarkable rendgation. Sassoon and Thomas and it was the birth of

:56:01.:56:04.

modernism to a certain extent in poetry. So we still remember poems

:56:05.:56:08.

from the First World War where we wouldn't necessarily from the second

:56:09.:56:12.

or from subsequent wars. Can you read it for us Certainly.

:56:13.:56:18.

Memorial tablet. Squire nagged and bullied

:56:19.:56:21.

till I went to fight, My wound was slight,

:56:22.:56:25.

and I was hobbling back and then a shell Burst slick

:56:26.:56:45.

upon the duck-boards so I fell into the bottomless mud,

:56:46.:56:48.

and lost the light. At sermon-time, while

:56:49.:56:51.

Squire is in his pew, he gives my gilded name

:56:52.:56:55.

a thoughtful stare. For, though low down

:56:56.:56:58.

upon the list, I'm there. Two bleeding years I fought

:56:59.:57:04.

in France for Squire. I suffered anguish that

:57:05.:57:13.

he's never guessed. Once I came home on leave

:57:14.:57:19.

and then went West. What greater glory

:57:20.:57:22.

could a man desire? Thank you so much for sharing that

:57:23.:57:36.

with us. Explain briefly what's behind that and what we're trying to

:57:37.:57:41.

convey? Yes. Well, it makes reference to squire. So, in the

:57:42.:57:48.

period before conscription this would be about 1915, the parish

:57:49.:57:53.

squire, the county squire would be in charge of recruiting men between

:57:54.:57:58.

the age of 14 and 21, they were often badgered and brow beaten to go

:57:59.:58:03.

to war. Later on, Lord derby's Scheme which was a reference in the

:58:04.:58:06.

poem was introduced in which men would be visited in their homes and

:58:07.:58:10.

encouraged to go and fight and then... Forgive me for jumping in

:58:11.:58:14.

because we need to go over to BBC Newsroom Live which is coming up. I

:58:15.:58:18.

want to thank you for your company today. Thank you for watching and we

:58:19.:58:23.

will be back again tomorrow at the same time.

:58:24.:58:39.

Bolt is a shining example of the best that we can be.

:58:40.:58:43.

A man like him is not born very often.

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