A look at children in Wales who go back to school in the holidays for free meals. And a family from Guam talk about being caught in a war of words between Trump and North Korea.
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Good morning. I'm Victoria Derbyshire. Welcome to the
programme. "Only absolute force
can work on him" - says North Korea as it accuses
Donald Trump of being bereft of reason and claims it's making
a plan to fire four rockets at the American territory
of Guam within days. An attack or threat on Guam is an
attack on the United States. They have said America will be defended.
We are talking to a family from the pacific island of Guam,
caught in the middle of this war of words - about how
Very serious warnings this morning that homelessness could rise
Right now around a quarter of a million people are caught
in the homeless trap, rough sleeping, in hostels, cars,
We look at the picture across the UK - and what can be done about it.
Paula and Barry are with us this morning -
both lost their jobs and ended up sleeping rough.
They will be talking to us just after 9am.
If the parents don't have enough money, they can put us into school,
then we get to have food. Children in some of the most
deprived parts of Wales are getting free meals during the summer
holidays - but should more be done in other parts of the UK
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at the standard network rate. North Korea will reveal
its plan for firing missiles at a US territory
within the next few days - says Pyongyang - and if Kim Jon Un
approves, four rockets could shoot over Japan towards the island
of Guam with its US military bases. Our correspondent
Yogita Limaye has more. North Korean state television showed
a mass of people marching in support of the leadership in the country,
even as the government These are details of its
plan to attack Guam. Four rockets will fly over Japan
and land in the Pacific Ocean It's drills by US bomber
aircraft like these, which are stationed at Guam,
that have angered Pyongyang. While a fierce reaction
from North Korea is expected, this time it is matched
by aggression from the US president. After saying Pyongyang would be
met by fire and fury, Donald Trump boasted about America's
nuclear arsenal, a message which will be perceived as another
threat by North Korea. It's making people around the world
nervous, and many countries Our strong wish is that
the United States keeps calm and refrains from any moves that
would provoke another party into actions that
might be dangerous. The border is just about 50
kilometres from here, but things on the streets
are not tense. This country has dealt
with threats from its neighbour for a long time now,
and that's why perhaps now people here are unlikely to believe just
yet that this war of words will turn Let's speak to our correspondent
lies in see all in South Korea. Let's pick up on that point, the
focus is on Guam but you are in a place that lives with this threat
everyday -- live in Seoul. For decades the people of South Korea
and Seoul have lived with the threat of a massive artillery on their
border, and perhaps even the board tick-macro prospect of a nuclear
strike. The focus is shifting to Guam, the obscure island stuck in
the middle of the Pacific. What's interesting in Seoul is that these
people who live every day with the prospect of a military confrontation
and as was said in the report, they remained fairly calm. People are
heading home here as it is 5pm in the evening. They are a good
barometer of how serious the rhetoric is. We've heard from the
defence chief of staff who say they are prepared for swift action and
reminding everyone of the strong military relationship that South
Korea has with the USA. I think if you couple that with stronger words
from US Defence Secretary saying North Korea will be greatly
overmatched, then the signal is warning Kim Jong-Un then, despite
the rhetoric coming from both sides, that if a military confrontation was
to come, then to repeat the words of Defence Secretary Mattis, it could
be the end of the regime in Pyongyang.
Let's bring you the rest of the morning's news.
Matthew Price is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary
Northumbria Police has defended paying ?10,000
Officers did it to gather information in
The force is standing by its actions after 17 - mostly Asian -
men and one woman were convicted of grooming vulnerable
Critics said it could have put victims at greater risk.
The faces of just some of those who abused young women
Vulnerable girls were given drinks and drugs and passed around for sex.
The gang was caught in one of the biggest child abuse
investigations the North of England has seen.
But now there are questions, outrage even, over some
Was it right to pay a convicted child rapist ?10,000
We don't support the police in doing this.
We think it was a misguided action, putting a person who had a track
record of abusing girls into a situation with other
vulnerable girls and perpetrators, and then paying them
Northumbria Police has strongly defended the payment.
It's surprising and disappointing for the NSPCC to adopt
This is an ill-informed position they have taken.
The fact is, we absolutely did not plant XY the informant in the midst
of vulnerable girls, that did not happen.
The force says this information to get convictions stopped
Northumbria's Police Commissioner says she was uneasy about paying
a rapist, but ultimately she's satisfied everything
These are complex cases, and difficult judgments have to be made.
Labour has accused the government top selling off valuable hospital
assets to help plug a hole in NHS finances. The amount of health
Service land in England that has been earmarked for sale has more
than doubled in the past year. Analysis commissioned by Labour
found 117 sites deemed surplus were still in medical or clinical use.
Ministers said selling land would give vital funding for patient care
and free up space for housing. Some prisoners should be able to use
video calling technology to stay in touch with their families. It could
cut reoffending rates, the government has been advised. A
review by Lord Farmer suggests so-called virtual visit should be
made available for inmates who cannot attend jail because of
illness, distance or other factors. Research indicates a prisoner who
receives visits from a visitor is 39% less likely to reoffend than an
inmate who had such contact. And we'll have more on this
after 10am when we'll be talking to former prisoners
and their relatives, and a representative from a social
justice charity which works A slowdown in the housing market
is spreading from London to other parts of the South East
of England, surveyors suggest. The Royal Institution
of Chartered Surveyors said the balance of their UK members
reporting price rises in July This is partly due to more
surveyors in the South East reporting house price falls
than the number reporting increases. However, other parts of the country
are still on an upward trend. The driver of a double-decker bus
has been taken to hospital after it crashed into a shop on a busy London
High Street. Police were called early this morning to reports of a
bus hitting a kitchen shop near Clapham Junction in south-west
London. The 77 bus was involved. Paramedics treated six passengers at
the scene. Two people are still trapped on the upper deck.
Schoolchildren in some of the most deprived parts of Wales are getting
free school meals during the summer holidays. They are paid for by the
Welsh government. Half ?1 million of its education budget is going into
these lunch clubs, they include all-day activities. Up to 3 million
children across the UK risk going hungry in the holidays because poor
families can't afford to pay for lunches that are normally provided
by schools, according to a report by MPs brought out earlier this year.
And we'll bring you an exclusive report on this later in this hour.
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For a man who told us yesterday he'd "lost everything",
Isaac Makwala has the chance to be a famous world champion tonight.
The Botswana sprinter had been banned from competing in London due
to the norovirus outbreak, and missed the chance
But after his quarantine period ended yesterday afternoon,
he was given the chance to run a solo time trial in the 200 metres.
He had to achieve the qualifying time.
And, roared on by the crowd, he did - and took his place
He celebrated with a view press ups to show how fit he was.
So around three hours later he was back, and remarkably Makwala
came second in his semi-final, qualifying for the final.
Just behind him in third was Britain's Nathaneel Mitchell-Blake,
The 400 metre champion Wayde Van Niekerk also secured a place.
For Makwala though it was all about the chance to race again
I wish to thank the IAAF for giving me another chance. The crowd is so
amazing. I just want to thank this crowd, they are so amazing.
Mo Farah says he feels a "little beaten up" after qualifying
He hurt his knee and leg in winning the 10k on Friday night,
but says he'll be fit for his last track race at a major competition.
and admitted he didn't enjoy running in the rain.
He'll also be joined by fellow Briton Andy Butchart
after he qualified as a fastest loser from the second heat.
Farah's track retirement is just around the corner and says he wants
You can't dream of something unless you do something about it.
I've been given a chance in life, and I work hard
what I've achieved through hard work and keep grafting.
To all the kids out there, youngsters, you can be like me,
and we've got to start thinking about how we can get
the next generation to leave a legacy behind.
There was late drama in the women's 400 metres.
Olympic champion Shaunae Miller Wee-Bo looked
but went from first to fourth in about ten strides.
The American Phyllis Francis won gold.
England made an impressive start to their defence
of the Women's Rugby World Cup, thrashing Spain 56-5 in Dublin.
Wales lost to New Zealand, and the hosts Ireland won
a nail-biting opener against Australia.
They were leading by nine points after Sophie Spence's try,
but the Australians fought back, and Ireland just clinched it, 19-17.
And Rory McIlory says he has nothing to prove ahead of the US PGA
Championship which starts this evening in North Carolina.
He's among a top-class field, trying to stop the American Jordan Spieth
becoming the youngest player to complete a career grand slam.
The biggest challenge in winning will be the incredible talent out
there this week. I really don't feel any expectations. This is a chance
to complete the career grand slam. I'm here so I'm going to go ahead
and try. But I believe I'm going to have plenty of chances and I'm young
enough to believe in my abilities that it will happen at some point.
Do I have to be the youngest? No, I don't feel that kind of pressure.
The number of people who are sleeping rough
is going to rise by three-quarters in the next ten years,
Nearly 160,000 households, or just under a quarter
of a million people, are experiencing the worst forms
This includes rough sleeping and sofa surfing.
But detailed economic analysis suggests if current housing policies
don't change, the figures will keep on rising.
It's been carried out by academics at Heriot-Watt University
He's a chef who lost his home after becoming unemployed
and slept rough for a year in parks and doorways in London.
Paula Blennerhassett, a former care worker
She spent several months sleeping in her car.
Matt Downie is director of policy at the charity Crisis.
Bob Blackman who is a Conservative MP for Harrow East and former
member of the Communities and Local Government Committee.
was given royal assent earlier this year.
It puts a legal duty on councils to help people facing homelessness.
And in our Oxford studio is Councillor Ed Turner.
He's the Local Government Authority's housing spokesperson
and deputy leader of Labour run Oxford City Council.
Welcome, all of you, thank you very much for coming on the programme.
Matt, how do you project future homelessness? Well, the best
academics in the field about Heriot-Watt have looked into this,
and they have looked at all available data sources for the
different forms of homelessness, so rough sleeping, but also people in
hostels. They predict the future by looking at the current levels of
homelessness and how they are driven, so we know what causes
homelessness, for example cuts in certain types of benefits lead to
different forms of homelessness. Reduction in provisions for people
leads to rub sleeping. So we can reliably predicted, and one of the
messages is that we know what causes homelessness and we know what solves
it, so this is about political decisions going forward. Did
analysis take into account changes from the Homelessness Reduction Bill
when it is enacted? We are really interested in how we get these
numbers down, and the most rheumatic in terms of solutions can be found
in terms of the Homelessness Reduction Act, that will require
councils to deal with the problem early. In Wales, it has happened for
a couple of years, and... So did the economic analysis take that into
account? Yes. I just wanted to check that. Barry, hello to you, very nice
to see you. You lost your home after losing your job and very quickly
fell into homelessness, tell our audience about the places that you
slept in that year. When I became homelessness, I sofa served for a
while, then I was in hostels, and there were times when I was sleeping
in doorways, times I was sleeping in blocks of flats, or in a Parkway.
You mean in the stairwell? Yes, a little bit warmer and a little bit
more safe than being on the street. I had never experienced this before,
it is the first time I experienced it, and it was a new experience for
me. I'm very glad I overcame it. I think it is disgraceful that anybody
has to live like that, I am not just talking about me - anybody. What is
it like? What words would you use to describe it? I think it is shameful,
yeah, that we have to put ourselves in a position where we can evict
people and expect them to sleep on the pavement, and it makes you feel
like you are isolated, you feel rejected by society. You immediately
come under that label where people make stereotypical remarks about
you. You encounter more aggression by members of society. And I think
it's very difficult to do it day in and day out because you are
constantly exhausted, you never have an opportunity to have a decent
night's sleep. Let me bring in Paula, Barry has described it, you
know, in incredibly sad and articulates terms, and you
experienced similar. You were a care worker until you hurt your back, you
lost your job, your mobile home, and a new-found yourself living in your
car for several months - tell our audience what that is life. It is
absolutely terrifying, day by day you are finding something to do, and
then at night it is like not knowing who is outside, because to just get
some privacy, you put towels up at the windows, just to get that tiny
bit of privacy that otherwise you wouldn't get. Eventually, you got
into a homeless hostel, so you had a roof over your head, but it still
wasn't great, was it? Not at all. I was surrounded 24/7 by alcoholics
and track addicts. Some people with mental disabilities. -- drug
addicts. Which I could help, because my training in my work helped me
deal with that. But it was getting harder to not be drawn into, like,
the alcohol stage of it. I had to stay sober 24/7, I couldn't go out,
because I was scared I would get pulled into it. So I chose to stay
completely sober through that time so that I wouldn't get pulled into
the alcohol side of it. Sure. Let me bring in Conservative MP Bob
Blackman, the estimates from Crisis are alarming - if things carry on as
they are, you have heard they take into account the Bill that God Royal
assent earlier this year, as a party that has been in government for many
years, do you accept some responsibility? All governments have
to accept responsibility for people sleeping rough. Including the
Conservative government that has been in power for seven years. The
reality is that the reasons for people becoming homelessness are
very different... Including cuts to benefits. For the last 30 years,
governments of all persuasions have failed to build and of housing in
this country to meet demand. We can all agree on that. The good news is
that is increasing. I put it to you, including the welfare cuts, the
likes that? One of the things that a solution to this... Of course we're
just go to talk about solutions, but do you accept that cuts to welfare
benefits have contributed partly to homelessness? The important thing is
that we build more homes. You are ignoring my question. The reason why
benefit cuts have come in is because of the spiralling cost of friends,
because of the shortage of supply in the first place. So what we have to
do is provide more low-cost housing which councils can then charge
rents... The reason you brought in benefit cuts was to reduce the
deficit. Indeed, and the housing benefit bill has spiralled out of
control over the last ten years. I will try again - do you accept that
cuts to welfare benefits have in part contributed to the homelessness
problem in Britain? No, because as the housing benefit bill increased,
so rents increased, so the reality was that money was being thrown at
the problem, rather than dealing with the problem, which is the
provision of more housing at an affordable level that people can pay
a reasonable rent. What do you say to that? We are going to disagree on
welfare, the leading cause of homelessness is the loss of a
private tenancy, and that is about the affordability gap. In London and
the south-east in particular. I would say that this is not just
about welfare, it is about other things too, and if you go back to
the early 2000s, both the Major government and the Blair government,
there were extraordinary things happening in this country where
people from abroad were looking at us, we were tackling homelessness
really successfully - so we know what works, we prevent homelessness,
that is why the Bill is so important, but when it does happen,
you act quickly, get people do permanent accommodation as soon as
possible, and don't allow people to sort of get stuck in the
homelessness system, people stuck in hostels and night shelters and
refuges for far too long. As Paula suggested, there is quite a lot of
support needs in the system that can prevent people from moving on. Ed
Turner is the leader of Oxford City Council, Labour run, how do you
think the Homelessness Reduction Act is going to impact in your area?
Will it help people? Will it cause you to stop people becoming
homelessness? A lot of councils are doing exactly what the act is asking
us to do, and council workers on the front line see the horrible
consequences that we have heard about every day and wants to help.
Sorry to interrupt, of course they want to help, but we know, because
we have covered it many times, that the priorities are the most
vulnerable - single women with children, young people et cetera. So
people like Paula Barry would not be considered a priority, and this act
will make you consider them priority too. A lot of councils have already
tried to help. The key thing is how we are able to help, and that is why
it is important to return to the point is we have picked up on,
making sure there is genuinely affordable accommodation for people
to go to. I looked on the internet how many affordable properties there
are in Oxford advertised on right move, not one. So build some more
houses, then. That is what we are trying to do. But we're not allowed
to borrow to build council housing above a certain level. What would be
really good is if we can form a delegation to ministers and say
let's stop the red tape that is stopping councils building housing,
that councils borrowed to build, it makes sense for our communities and
will help prevent homelessness. So you are not allowed to borrow to
build social housing. There is a cap on borrowing for building housing.
There is no cap on councils borrowing for other purposes, only
to build housing, it is crazy. What is your limit? It is set in each
individual local authority. In my authority, we have got a small
amount of headroom left, borrowing headroom, and we are not allowed to
borrow beyond that. Every council is in that position, you are not
allowed to - it just doesn't make sense. How much are you allowed to
borrow? In Oxford, the figure is about 250 million, but we had to
borrow 220 million anyway to make a payment to the Government, so we
have a small amount of money to play with, and in some cases councils are
borrowing up to the limit. Why is a lot of money, you could build
thousands of social homes. 220 million has already been paid to
the Government because we were required to do that. Councils say,
let us borrow to build again. At the same time, let's link housing
benefit to real rents in the market. Bob Blackman, your Government is
doing this, what do you say to Ed? We have to have more low-cost
housing, units that can be provided for as little as ?20,000 per unit,
and then allow local authorities to charge the rent on those properties
that is commensurate with the cost of providing them, rather than
market rents, which of course very difficult to afford, and for people
who are unemployed, depending on benefits, it reduces the benefit
bill, allows local authorities to develop housing quickly and more
cheaply, and it is a solution to the problem of the fact that we are not
building and of homes. Right. So with that going to happen, then? It
is not a government policy yet, but I am pushing the Government to look
at it as one of the solutions. The other solutions, by the way, is
housing associations are sitting with large amounts of money in their
reserves that could be used to build more social housing. There are also
councils sitting with large reserves. What have you got in
Oxford? We have got a balance of ?3.5 million over our four year
plan, the minimum we are allowed to go down too. Are not as much as
some. People are not sitting on a war chest, we just want to build
council houses. Some councils are, thank you very much. Paul says there
is little chance of solving the homelessness problem when rough
sleepers are treated as criminals. Very disturbing to see the projected
figures, I live in Runcorn, I have seen the first cases of homeless
people sleeping rough. It is even worse in Liverpool. The bedroom tax
and universal credit have been a big factor in people losing their
houses, amongst other things. And pizzas, I was homeless for two
years, and councils do not care one bit, and only a homelessness charity
helped me, I am now a share. Thanks very much for coming on the
programme. Still to come, North Korea
accuses Donald Trump It talks about plans for sending
four rockets into the sea around the island of Guam. We'll be speaking to
a teacher on the Pacific island which has suddenly found itself at
the centre of a crisis. With some schools in Wales offering free meals
during the holidays, should more be done to tackle holiday hunger in
other parts of the country? Here's Matthew in the BBC Newsroom
with a summary of today's news. North Korea says its plan to fire
four missiles near the US territory of Guam will soon be ready,
as a war of words with State media said rockets would pass
over Japan and land in the sea about 17 miles from Guam,
if the plan was approved It denounced Donald Trump's warnings
of "fire and fury" and said the US A police chief has said paying
a child rapist ?10,000 as part of an investigation into a grooming
gang was the "right thing". Northumbria Police's Steve Ashman
said the information provided by the man led to the conviction
of 17 men and a woman Charities have criticised the force
for paying the criminal. Labour has accused the government
of selling off valuable hospital assets to help plug a hole
in NHS finances. The amount of Health Service land
in England that has been earmarked for sale has more than doubled
in the past year. Analysis commissioned by Labour
found 117 sites deemed surplus were still in medical
or clinical use. Ministers said selling
land would give vital funding for patient care, and free
up space for much-needed housing. Some prisoners should be able to use
video calling technology to stay It could cut reoffending rates,
the government has been advised. A review by Lord Farmer suggests
so-called virtual visits should be made available for inmates whose
family members who cannot attend jail because of illness,
distance or other factors. Research indicates a prisoner
who receives visits from a visitor is 39% less likely to reoffend
than an inmate who had The driver of a double-decker bus
has been taken to hospital after it crashed into a shop on a busy
London High Street. Police were called early this
morning to reports of a bus hitting a kitchen shop near Clapham Junction
in south-west London. Paramedics treated six
passengers at the scene. Two people are still
trapped on the upper deck. Schoolchildren in some of the most
deprived parts of Wales are getting free school meals
during the summer holidays. They are paid for by
the Welsh government. ?0.5 million of its education budget
is going into these lunch clubs, Up to 3 million children
across the UK risk going hungry in the holidays because poor
families can't afford to pay for lunches that are normally
provided by schools, according to a report by MPs brought
out earlier this year. That's a summary of the latest BBC
News - more at 10:00am. Isaac Makwala could become one of
the strangers but most celebrated world champions later after being
banned from competing in London because of a Norah virus outbreak.
The Botswana sprinter was given a reprieve via this time trial which
he used to get through to the semifinals. Later on he made the
final, which is tonight. He was particularly happy and full of beans
as well. Mo Farah's progress to the 5000 metres final was secured. He
hurt his knee and a leg in winning the 10,000 metres the other day but
insisted he would be OK for his race on Saturday. Ireland held on to win
their opening match in the women's rugby World Cup beating Australia
19-17 in Dublin thanks in part to that late try. England won
comfortably but Wales lost to New Zealand. Rory McIlroy said he has
nothing to prove ahead of the US PGA championship which starts later
today in North Carolina. He is among a top-class field, trying to stop
Jordan Spieth becoming the youngest player to complete a career grand
slam, he's just 24. Will be live at the London Stadium looking at what's
to come ahead in the world athletics Championships at 10am.
North Korea says its plan for a missile strike on the US
territory of Guam will be ready by mid August.
State media says that if Kim Jong-un approves,
rockets will shoot over Japan and land in the sea about 17 miles
from the island's military bases, just hours after Donald Trump
promised to meet any threat to the United States
He tweeted another statement saying, "My first order as President
was to renovate and modernize our nuclear arsenal."
"It is now far stronger and more powerful than ever before."
He also adds, "Hopefully we will never have to use this power,
but there will never be a time that we are not the most powerful
Well it's already 10th August, so how worried should the world be?
Let's go live to Guam and talk to Nelia Grace Mercado
Neila is a teacher on the island and works for the US
Department of Defence at one of their military bases.
Victoria Guerrero is also from Guam and says she is "terrified"
Karin von Hippel from the defense think-tank Rusi,
as well as Dr James Hoare, who used to be Britain's most senior
Nelia, tell me how you and your relatives and children are feeling
on the island right now? What I'm sensing from a friends on social
media and the friends I see everyday, although we are getting as
year and says from a government that we are prepared to protect ourselves
should North Korea send a missile hour wait, we are carrying anxiety
under our hearts in our day-to-day lives. Our governor has asked us to
stay calm and proceed with our lives, but it's quite difficult to
do so. This is the first time that we've heard any formal threat from
North Korea. We are anxious about what's to come, particularly the
latest news that they are going to or are threatening to approve the
release of those missiles, miles away from Guam. We are very
concerned despite assurances from our local government leaders. You
tweeted the president Donald Trump. We can have a look at that now. You
showed a picture of yourself and your children. Why did you do that?
I thought it was important for the president to see the faces of Guam.
Guam isn't some abstract point on the map with an American flag on it.
It's a dimensional community. We have a history and a culture, we
have life that people are fighting to keep, survive and thrive with.
Much like that of any other community in the United States. I
wanted him to understand that their faces. Also, to release the lack of
understanding that much of our nation might have, if not enough
misunderstanding, of what Guam is. I stated to your producer that even
Fox News didn't get their facts right about Guam. For the sake of my
island, I wanted the president to see that there are valuable lives
here, much like his and any of the people in the USA. We are as complex
and as alive as any of the states, and I wanted him to be aware of the
faces for which he is responsible. Are you sending him that photo of
your family because you want to protect you, or are you sending it
to say please tone down your language? I'm sending it that photo
for him to be aware. OK. Let me bring in Victoria. What is your view
of what is going on right now? Do you really think North Korea could
potentially send four rockets into the sea around Guam in the next
week? I think they have the capability, yes. She was right that
this is the first time we are hearing such a direct threat in
terms of here is the time we are going to attack, this is the kind of
attack we are going to do. Guam is readily caught in the middle of
other countries conflicts. We have been told in the past that we would
be attacked by North Korea or China. I believe China has missiles called
the Guam killers. As a mother, this causes a lot of anxiety. Largely
because it is important to understand Guam's history and that
we are a unique people in the world. The indigenous people of our island
have been here for 4000 years. We have been colonised for centuries
and our relationship to America is that of a UN recognised colony.
These conflicts are happening without anything to do with us. The
military presence here has been without our consent. You used to be
written's most senior diplomat in North Korea, if North Korea fires
rockets into the sea around Guam, is that an act of war? Probably not. I
think we are jumping rather ahead. They've talked about making a plan,
then that plan has to be approved. What I think they are doing is
saying we could do this. They are hoping there will be some response
so they can draw back. I don't think the North Koreans are actually
suicidal, and I think that they are concerned that Mr Trump makes these
sorts of throwaway remarks, and that they need to do something to say
that you can't do this without a possible consequence. I don't think
they will necessarily fire their rockets at Guam. If they do, I don't
think those rockets are likely to be terribly successful. One of the
things I think the North Koreans still cannot guarantee is the
accuracy of their weaponry of that type. If they do, what would you
expect Donald Trump to do? I have no idea in the world. What would you
say? It's hard to say. What you are seeing is a US president that has an
ad hoc foreign policy. He doesn't have a team that comes together and
agrees on a strategy and then they all follow it. Secretary of State
Rex Tillerson says one thing, Trump says another thing and Mike Pence
says another thing. It's a really uncomfortable situation. They are
like this on all foreign policy issues but this is potentially the
most dangerous. Although they may not agree on a formal policy, it
seems clear to me Donald Trump is saying if you do anything you will
regret it. But a US president should not be threatening to potentially
use of nuclear force. The president should be trying to calm the world
down. He's talked about firing... He has ratcheted it up instead of
calming down. Dr Hoare, you don't think this is going to be a nuclear
war? I don't know, but there have been equally apparently dangerous
crises in the past. It's not so long since the North Koreans showed the
leader on television with a map on the wall showing the cities of the
United States they could attack. The cities, not some intermediate place
but actually attacking the USA. Of course, they backed away. They
didn't have the capability. They may still not have the capability. I
think that, depending on how Washington react, you have signs
that the North Koreans would quite like to get out of this tense
relationship that has worked up over the last two months. Let's go back
to Guam because we can hear from Nelia's son. Hello. How are you?
Good. You're talking to Great Britain, welcome and thank you.
You're welcome. How are you feeling right now? A bit shy. Don't be,
please! What has your man said to you about what's going on in the
world with North Korea and other world leaders -- mum? That they are
going to launch a missile at Guam, and that's all she has told me. What
about the missiles that protect Guam? There's a missile that
protects Guam, it it's called the antiballistic missile defence
system. Does that make you feel safer? Yes. What about the defences
of Guam? There is a system in place for the region, there are US troops
throughout the region, US troops in Japan and South Korea, almost 60,000
US troops as well as US civilians throughout the region. There are
defences everywhere, but this could easily spiral out of control if both
leaders are not careful to ratchet it back.
Jeshua, finally, what would you say to the leader of North Korea? I
would say, please stop, there are families that live here on Guam. My
grandma just had knee surgery, she is in the hospital, please stop.
Thank you to Jeshua and his mother, and Victoria Guerrero, and Dr James
Hoare and Karin von Hippel from Rusi. Let me read this message,
Michael said that North Korea consistently threatens the safety of
US citizens and Rock write the response, and somehow he is painted
as the bad guy and all of this. -- and Trump rightly response.
Still to come, Facebook's revamped video service, will it be a
competitor to Netflix and Amazon? Schoolchildren in some of the most
deprived parts of Wales are getting free school meals
these summer holidays ?500,000 has been allocated,
which still means only a small number
of schools are covered. A report earlier this year said
that up to three million children across the UK risked going
hungry in the holidays. Catrin Nye has been meeting
children in Cardiff. Can you tell me what your
favourite foods are? It's one of 39 schools in the most
deprived parts of Wales providing breakfast and lunch
in the school holidays, just like they
normally do in term time. For the first time this year,
the Welsh Government's funding lunch clubs,
which also involve You guys have to go
to school all year round. My mum think it's good
because she works, and normally I sit home
with my nan, but because I'm in here,
it makes a big difference. If the parents don't have
enough money, they can put us into school
and then we get to have food. They don't agree on whether school
is better with or without lessons. In summer school we don't have to do
as much work as normal school. Summer school is better
than normal school? Normal school is better,
because you get to learn Can you tell when pupils
in your class haven't eaten, If they're not prepared
for their day, already off on the wrong foot,
it affects mood, Without the fundamentals in place,
children can't learn. This project is all about providing
the meals that you always get I think every parent that brings
a child in here is grateful for it. Lots of different reasons -
childcare, food, entertainment. They're going to be stuck
in the house anyway, aren't they? If the weather is bad,
you can't take them anywhere. At this time, so many people
are struggling, like me. Having to make sure your kids get
fed, not just feeding them with anything but giving them
the right food. We're constantly restocking
the cupboards, constantly doing shopping, sometimes you go
to the shop and at the checkout you go through your receipt to see
if the assistant made a mistake. My daughter is seven,
so bringing her in here They're interacting
with other children, playing, They don't look at it
as they're in school, There are people on free school
meals - suddenly, that is taken away and the family budget has to stretch
that bit further. Do you see children going
without in the summer? In Swansea recently they actually
ran out of food in the food bank. If you think that it's been decided
that children need free school meals because of the amount of income
the family has got, it's not surprising during the long summer
holidays, when suddenly those things are not there,
families are struggling. The summer lunch club costs
about ?30 a day per child. A third of the children who go
to this school have free school meals, but you don't need to be
eligible to get the free We don't qualify, unfortunately,
because my husband receives working tax credits -
not a great amount a week, but because he receives
that, they don't qualify They have sandwiches when they come
to school in term time, this is an added bonus,
because they get a school meal. My favourite food is
chocolate spread sandwiches! Because it has a really good taste,
and it isn't that healthy, but sometimes you can make
yourself free like a bird. You guys have eaten more
of your vegetables than me. A report by a cross-party group
of MPs warned that three million children across the UK risk
going hungry in school holidays. The Welsh Goverment has put ?500,000
of its education budget, controlled in Cardiff
rather than Westminster, Money is very tight,
and at the moment It may not be feasable to run it
in every school, I accept that, but actually in schools
which need it, I think the cost
has got to be worth it. It's part of closing the education
gap, making sure children get food I can't think of anything more
tragic than being able to predict at the beginning of a child's life
what their GCSE results will be. At the moment, the education
departments in England and Scotland are not allocating specific funding
to lunch clubs. Charities and local authorities
are able to set them up, but there are calls for more
central government money. Katrin Nye reporting, more on this
in the next hour of the programme, asking whether this should be rolled
out across the rest of the UK, let me know your views.
Facebook is spreading out into the TV market,
taking on the like of Netflix and Amazon.
Rory Cellan-Jones is here, what are they launching? They are launching a
new tab on Facebook called Watch, where you will be able to watch
original video content. There is already a lot of video on Facebook,
including from this show, and this is just starting in America, you
won't see it in the UK for a while, but a real mark of how competitive
this world is. They are doing some deals, they will get original
content from the likes of BuzzFeed, some American sports franchises,
basketball and so on, and they are offering you the chance to watch TV
through Facebook. Mark Zuckerberg has a slightly cheesy quote,
watching a show doesn't have to be passive, it can be a chance to share
an experience and bring people together who care about the same
things, so what about caring and sharing, but really they are about
advertising revenue. They are already hugely dominant. I think
they are looking at Netflix and Amazon, but also looking at YouTube,
which is owned by Google, the other big powerhouse of the internet in
terms of advertising. They are looking at how much money YouTube is
now churning out for Google, and they are thinking, we would like
some of that. I think it is going to be pitch to the kind of people who
make you know, that whole class of people who make money from
advertising on YouTube - what were amateurs have become professionals.
I think they would like to see some of those people pitching up on
Facebook. But YouTubers got a big start. Yeah... So we will get it in
this country eventually, will we? The option to watch on Facebook if
we want to? Yeah, and I'm sure they will try to do deals with global
content providers... Including the BBC? Who knows?! Of course, we
wouldn't get the advertising money from it. But we would be paid for
our content. If we provide original drama or whatever. Yeah, a question
of where you want your content to end up, Facebook, I mean, there are
concerns about the sheer power of these giant American companies.
Facebook, Google, Apple, Amazon and so on, they dominate our world, and
there is a big battle between them to be the top dog in the online
advertising world. Thank you very much, Rory. Let me bring you some
news about NHS waiting times, it is from our health editor, Hugh Pym.
The number of people waiting for Dean surgery in England in June was
the highest since December 2007. -- for routine surgery. 3.8 million
patients were on waiting lists, 19% were waiting for longer than the
target of 80 weeks. The number of people on waiting lists in June was
the highest since December 2007, the highest for ten years. More on that
later. Still to come, family relationships are key to stopping
prisoners reoffending. A government review is recommending that inmates
should be able to talk to relatives on Skype to get in touch with them.
We will talk to former inmates and their relatives. News and sport and
ten, but first the weather. A lovely start across much of the
UK, some showers around, rain across northern parts of the country, but
look at these lovely pictures, this one from East Yorkshire, blue skies,
and as we drift into Derbyshire, again blue skies, fair weather
cloud, not much more than that. Through the course of the day, for
most of us, with high pressure in charge, staying settled, but this
weather front is still producing some showers, patchy rain across
Kent, and we have got another one across the far north of Scotland,
introducing more cloud, and also some rain, mainly across the
Northern Isles. So a lot of dry weather, fair weather cloud bubbling
up through the day, gentle breezes, in the sunshine, it will feel quite
pleasant. Temperatures roughly where they should be in August, perhaps a
smidgen below. From the Midlands down towards the Isle of Wight,
heading towards the Isles of Scilly, all points in between, we are
looking at a dry afternoon with some sunshine. Sunshine across Wales,
Cardiff up to 20 Celsius, sunny spells for more than island, a
little bit more in the way of cloud. -- sunny spells for Northern
Ireland. Moving across the bulk of Scotland, dry and sunny. Across
northern England, a similar story, dry and sunny. The Midlands seem the
same with justice hang back of cloud, the balance of yesterday's
rain, the remnants of a weather front which could produce a shower.
Not expecting showers in London this afternoon, but a fair bit of
sunshine, temperatures up to 20 or even a 21. Through the evening and
overnight, early evening sunshine, then clear skies developing, but at
the same time a weather front coming in across West of Scotland, Northern
Ireland, that will introduce rain, accompanied by strengthening winds
as it sinks southwards through the course of the overnight period. You
can see why, we have got a cold front that is bringing rain, and
other occlusion culling in right behind it, a weaker affair, but it
does mean, for many parts of England and Wales, we will start on a sunny
note, but as the weather fronts push southwards, with windy conditions,
you will find cloud will continue to build. The far south-east of England
will hang onto the sunshine probably until evening time. But it all goes
through June the course of Friday night, so by Saturday we start on a
chilly note, but a further sunshine around, one or two showers dotted
here or there across the Highlands, highs up to 22, Sunday is also
looking like being mostly dry. Hello it's Thursday, it's ten
o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire. North Korea says it plans to fire
missiles at Guam will soon be ready. The US warns the North Koreans their
actions could mean the end of the regime.
Although we are getting as you answers from a government that we
are prepared to protect ourselves should North Korea send a missile
our way, we are carrying anxiety and our hearts in our day-to-day lives.
Prisoners relationships with their family are key to stopping them
reoffending and vital to reforming a troubled prison service. We'll be
asking a man who's been in jail three times what impact the support
of his family had on him. A report by MPs said that up
to three million children across the UK risked going hungry
in the holidays. Should more be done
to tackle the growing Here's Matthew in the BBC Newsroom
with a summary of todays news. North Korea will reveal its plan
for firing missiles at a US territory within the next few days -
says Pyongyang - and if Kim Jong-Un approves, four rockets could shoot
over Japan towards the South Pacific island of Guam with
its US military bases. Our correspondent Robin Brant
is in Seoul in South Korea - where the mood, despite mounting
tensions, remains calm. For decades, the people of South
Korea and Seoul have lived with the threat of a massive artillery on
their border, and perhaps even the prospect of a nuclear strike. The
focus is shifting to Guam, the obscure island stuck in the middle
of the Pacific. What's interesting here in Seoul, is those people who
live every day with the prospect of military confrontation, and they
remain fairly calm. It's a normal Wednesday, people are heading home
because it's just gone past 5pm. They are a good barometer of how
serious the rhetoric is. We've heard from the chief of the defence staff
saying they are prepared for swift action as usual and reminding
everyone, particularly the North Korean 's, of the close relationship
South Korea has with the United States. If you couple that with
stronger words from the US Defence Secretary Mattis, saying North Korea
would be grossly overmatched, then the signal is very much warning Kim
Jong-Un then, despite the rhetoric coming from both sides, that is a
military confrontation came, then to repeat the words of Defence
Secretary Mattis it could be the end of the regime in Pyongyang.
The number of people waiting for routine surgery in June was the
highest since December 2000 and seven. The figures tell us that 3.83
million patients were on lists for operations. 90.3% were seen within
18 weeks, that is below the target of 92%. There was an increase in the
year-on-year of more than 21% in the numbers of people waiting longer
than 18 weeks. That went up to 373,000. A police chief has said
paying a child rapist ?10,000 is part of an investigation into a
grooming gang was the right thing. Steve Ashman said the information
provided by the man led to the conviction of 17 men and a woman for
abusing girls in Newcastle. Charities have criticised the force
for paying the criminal. Some prisoners should be able to use
video calling technology such as Skype to stay in touch
with their families and cut reoffending rates,
the government has been advised. The review, by Lord Farmer,
suggests so-called "virtual visits" should be made available for inmates
whose relatives cannot attend jail because of illness,
distance or other factors. Research indicates a prisoner
who receives visits from a relative, is 39% less likely to re-offend
than an inmate who had School children in some of the most
deprived parts of Wales are getting free school meals during the summer
holidays, paid for by Half a million pounds
of its education budget Up to three million children
across the UK risk going hungry in the holidays because poor
families can't afford to pay The driver of a double-decker bus
has been taken to hospital after it crashed into a shop on a busy
London high street. Police were called early this
morning to reports of a bus hitting a kitchen shop near Clapham Junction
train station in south-west London. A route 77 double-decker bus
was involved in the incident. Paramedics treated six
passengers at the scene. Two people are still
trapped on the upper deck. The Fire Brigade have now freed
those two people. That's a summary of the latest BBC
News - more at 10:30am. This photograph of the ex-editor of
Vogue. She edited Vogue for 25 years and put this photograph on her
Instagram page on holiday. I was asking if a picture of a normal
woman like that, someone in her position, does it inspire youth? A
number of people have said what a refreshingly honest picture. Others
have said total hypocrisy because she was the head of a fashion bible
that would never dream of putting a woman that was slightly wobbly on
their front cover. Another view says, good on you, I really want to
see my share of positive imagery that I can relate to. I want to see
positive, fat and older female and male images. It's sad that Vogue and
their like don't lead the way. I realised many years ago we don't
have much in common so I don't buy their product! Thank you.
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -
If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.
Let's get the latest from the World Athletics Championships -
it's day seven, and Jessica is at the London Stadium for us.
Jessica will there be a fairytale ending for
It's been one of the major talking points at the world athletics
Championships. This time yesterday Isaac Makwala was in quarantine
thinking his World Championships were over. Tonight, he'll be
competing for a gold medal in the 200 metres. It was on this very
track when Makwala lined up on the 200 metre line for this remarkable
solo time trial that the IAAF granted him. It was just him against
the clock. None of his rivals around him to spare him on, just him, the
clock and the crowd. It was remarkable, the something you rarely
see in world athletics Championships. Makwala was one of a
group of athletes affected by the stomach bug going around at these
championships. He was prevented from competing. He was refused to race on
medical grounds. He went through the solo time trial, required a certain
qualifying time. He got the qualifying time which meant he went
into the semifinals. He finished that semifinal in second place which
means tonight he will race for gold in front of all the fans who have
really warmed to him in the past few days.
I wish to thank the IAAF for giving me another chance
They didn't need to believe, the crowd being British,
I just want to thank this crowd, so amazing!
I loved the press ups at the end! Just in case we hadn't noticed from
the way he ran that, that message that I'm fine, I do not have
norovirus, and the crowd were fantastic!
We saw Mo Farah back on the track last night and in impressive form.
What is there to look forward to today for British fans?
We weren't sure about Mo Farah and how much that 10,000 had taken out
of him. He seemed to do OK, he was relatively comfortable in the 5000.
He did enough to get through but also to look forward to for the
British fans will be Katarina Johnson-Thompson in the high jump.
It's one of her strongest events. She didn't do as well as you might
have done in the heptathlon in that event. I spoke to Denise Lewis
earlier, the Olympic heptathlon champion from Sydney 2000. She said
Johnson Thompson should fare better despite her disappointment in the
heptathlon. She's a really good high jumper, she holds the British
record. I think she had a blip. Maybe she overbought it in the
heptathlon. She has been adjusting her runway. I think she will be fine
tonight. There is a good chance they might both qualify, fingers crossed.
She went be the only Brit in action, we've got Eilidh Doyle in the final
of the 400 meter hurdles and Nathaniel Mitchell Blake. Hopefully
we might have a few medals to cheer about tonight?
Family relationships are key to stopping prisoners reoffending
and vital to reforming a prison system which, as we have
reported on this programme, has seen a surge in levels
According to a Government review out today, research has shown prisoners
who receive visits from a family member are 39% less
The team behind the research took in over 1,000 submissions from men
in prison, their families, voluntary organisations,
academics and members of staff in the sector,
and recommendations include inmates being able to use Skype
or Facetime on iPads to talk to their relatives at home.
Let's talk now to Cody Lachey, who was released from
He has been in prison three times in the last three years.
Josette Baldacchino, who regularly visited her ex-partner in prison
She now volunteers for Partner of Prisoners and speaks
to other prison families on the organisation's helpline.
Jacob Tas, chief executive of Nacro, a social justice charity which works
They help them to settle back into society and rebuild
relationships, or maintain them, and have submitted
Welcome. Cody, you are released in February, you've been inside three
times in the last three years for witness intimidation and assault on
a police officer, then for an assault on someone else. Your man
came to visit you. You had that contact, you saw the effect on her
and you still reoffended, tell us why. To be honest, my criminality
was embedded within me. I made very bad decisions going forward. It was
only on my third and final stretch where I saw the effect it was having
on my mum psychologically and emotionally, not to mention
financially. That stopped my criminality. I am reformed now and I
campaign for prison reform across the board. Her continuing visits in
those three occasions when you were inside, in the end, they have helped
you make a decision that you aren't going to reoffend again. Yes, I did
think it was down to the visits, I think it was down to the effect it
was having on my mum and I grew a conscience overnight. I came out of
prison and that was it. It's definitely different this time?
Absolutely. I'm staying away from crime, I've got a new circle of
friends, I'm a changed person. Mike rhinestone define the other person
and I've used my experiences to campaign for prison reform
across-the-board -- my crime doesn't define me as a person. Why was it
important to keep close contact with your partner when he was in prison?
I found it was important to keep contact because it gave him
something to look forward to. It gave him something to look forward
to to coming home and it made an impact on our family. I think when
he saw that he understood what he did was wrong. I do agree with the
fact that they should have some kind of video to be able to speak to
them. Often people get sent to a jail that is hundreds of miles from
home. The idea you could go and visit regularly is a nonstarter.
It's really hard for families as they go far. Sometimes even if they
are nearby, it's hard to go on visits. Or if they've got elderly
parents. It was hard, really hard. What's it like going to visit
someone you love in prison and taking your daughter and grandchild
with you? It's not the best experience. Not when you're going to
be searched or when you're going to be treated along the same lines as
the offender. What do you mean? You feel as though you're being treated
as though you what the criminal. Which is extremely hard and not
something you should be put through. That's where the support comes in
from organisations like Partners of Prisoners.
What do you think about these figures that somebody would be 39%
less likely to offend if contact is maintained? You just pulled a face,
Josette! Well, personally, I would have said 50%. The contact with
families, it is very important, and I am not saying that family support
is going to stop all offenders reoffending, because it doesn't. You
are going to get half that are going to look at the family support and
they are going to stop, and another half will just continue to do it,
and it's not what you are a way of life for them. Led me bring in
Nacro, the social justice charity. What about this recommendation that
inmates should be able to talk to inmates on Skype on an iPad, for
example, so relatives can call into prison to talk to their loved ones?
I think it is a very positive development. The whole report, we
strongly support the report from Lord Farmer, and one of the
recommendations is that the preferred is physical meeting,
face-to-face, and having that relationship continue on that basis.
But as we already know, lots of prisoners are far away, quite
difficult to access, and exactly what we heard before, the treatment
of children and family members is usually similar to the end being
treated in prison, which is, of course, not right at all. That could
change tomorrow, couldn't it? It should, and that is another
recommendation, but back to the FaceTime, Skype, regular contact,
how was your day at school for a child, you know, obviously the day
in prison is not so interesting to talk about most likely, but the
relationship with the family members, all with parents or
anybody, to know what is going on, that there is a life outside of
prison, and the stronger the relationship is, the more ties they
have that are worth continuing, the more likely that it is that they
don't want to go back to prison. What do you say to people watching
who will say, well, I don't have an iPad, why should an inmate? This is
not about issuing iPad is as a toy, it will be purely as an instrument
to be able to communicate with, so like a phone. Today you can call,
for example, it is very different as you can see in the report, different
experiences, it is why hard to make phone calls, they are costly for
offenders, it is hard for them to enough money to make phone calls.
For those determined to keep relationships going, we're not
making it easy to do so. So this type of technology will make it
easy, as it is accessible to many of us, through smartphones or... Cody,
you have been inside three times, you know what it is like to lose
your liberty, you think this idea of video calls might lead critics to
say this is softening the prison regime and it is meant to be a place
of punishment? The simple fact is, Victoria, we have seen in the last
week that assault on prisons are at a record high, up 20% on last year.
Self harm, 40,414 incidents in the last 12 months and stuff. The prison
system as a powder keg right now. I cannot stress enough how important
family ties are. Children not seeing their dads because financial
restraints are in place, people having to travel hundreds of miles
to visit, the cost of train fares, the price of food on the visits,
accommodation, things like that, it all plays a part. So it is pivotal.
If you put this in system, this Skype, I believe it will reduce
violent incidents in one way or another, and self harm, which can
only be a good thing, and it will reduce incidents which will reflect
well on the Ministry of Justice. And if reoffending is reduced as a
result of introducing Skype or whatever, then that will save a lot
more money to taxpayers who might be criticising the up the idea of an
iPad in a jail. Very much so, and it will help people not commit further
crime, thereby generating further victims, but it is important,
because we have major issues in our prison system at the moment - we
need to stop writing reports and start taking action to improve the
circumstances, and therefore, when we have these people captured in our
prison, have a relentless focus on rehabilitation, which means giving
them a roof to sleep under, making sure that they have a job somehow,
and these family ties are critically important, to make our society
safer, to reduce the number of people in prison, and therefore have
more money available to make that all happen, that is very strongly
our view at Nacro. That big here, reoffending gusts ?15 billion a
year, that is what reoffending gusts. The Justice Minister, David
Lidington says we are committed to reforming prisons in places of
safety and reform, and families can play a signature control in
supporting an offender. Obviously, they would point out they are
spending money on an extra 2500 prison officers. We will see what
the Government do with this report, they set it up, that doesn't mean
there will follow the recommendations. We hope so. Thank
you very much, all of you. Thank you very much for coming on the
programme, Cody, Josette. Still to come, with some schools in Wales
offering free meals during the summer holidays, should more be done
in other parts of the UK to tackle the growing problem of holiday
hunger? The story of a 20-year-old model
being abducted whilst out on a job in Milan this week
has made global news. and told she would be sold
as a sex slave. who specialises in
the modelling industry and says the problem
of sex trafficking isn't just in the glamour
modelling world - "it's rife" within
the fashion industry. Good morning. What is your evidence
for saying that? Well, there is no... It is with the these sort of
thing you see when you work in the industry. And I have known lots of
models, my wife was a former fashion model. When you say sex
trafficking... That is quite a wide ambit in terms... But what I have
seen is a rather relaxed attitude by some agencies. To what? To girls who
come from abroad, from all over the world, mostly Russia, most of the
fashion models come from Russia. They come very young, sometimes as
young as 14, sometimes older, 17, 16, but still 16, 17 is not that
old. And whilst they don't actually get introduced to promoters, club
promoters, the agencies will have parties at nightclubs, where there
will be alcohol, the girls obviously won't be old enough to drink, and
that environment creates opportunities for predators. I can
see that, but are you saying that young teenagers, teenagers and young
adults, beautiful women from all over the world, are being carpeted
in this country. No. Right. I'm not saying that. But what I'm saying
is... Well, they are, obviously, because there is evidence for that
with police reports and, you know, what have you. But specific to the
fashion industry. Specific to the fashion industry, there is, you
know, what I'm saying is the environment is created where there
is more possibility of that happening, and more could be done by
the agencies to keep these girls safer. And of course anyone can set
up as an agent, anyone can set up as if the dog about. YouGov yeah. --
can set up as a photographer. Yeah. Would more regulation help? There is
regulation at the moment, there is a code of employment agencies, and the
employment business regulation is 2003, and what that seeks to do is
it seeks to put some kind of duty on agencies, that is to save modelling
agencies, to protect models. So for example they have got to check you
ever the hirers are, that they do not have an immoral reputation or
something else, insolvent, but still relevant in another respect. Is that
code working? Obviously, not really, because the agencies themselves are
rather like that in a way they treat models. I'm sure you heard about the
incident in Paris last Fashion Week, where a number of models were locked
in a room for hours whilst everybody went for lunch. So there could be a
lot more done to protect these girls, to give them more confidence.
You know, I have heard of situations where girls have gone to foreign
countries and they have lost their money, you know, lost their wallets,
and the agencies won't help them out, or they find it very, very
difficult to do so. And some of the ways these agreements are framed,
the way in practice the girls are more or less trapped, because they
have got no money of their own, they are 15, in a foreign country, a lot
of them come from rural areas, this is all new to them, because usually
modelling takes place in very big cities, you know, well-known, like
Paris, London, New York, and they, you know, they are given pocket
money, which they deduct from whatever they earn. So these girls,
they say that they are work seekers who can come in and out of the
contract as they like, but in practice they are sort of trapped
there, so in a way the agencies, they can do, they do whatever the
agencies tell and to do. If they say, go to this nightclub, there is
a party, they go there. If someone says, I know you're agencies or
whatever, the next thing you know, I am not saying this happens all the
time, but the next thing you know, a promoter who knows some very rich
men, the girls become prostitutes. Thank you very much, thank you,
Peter. Amazon saw a 50% drop
in the amount of UK corporation tax it paid last year -
despite a 54% increase in turnover. Amazon UK Services received a bill
of ?7.4 million in 2016, compared to almost ?16 million
the previous year. The firm says it meets
its tax obligations. Let's talk to our business editor,
Simon Jack, hello, hello, hello. Corporation tax is what you pay on
profits, which may be the keys here. That is exactly right, there are a
lot of raised eyebrows because their turn-up went up 50%, the global
company made billions and billions, but talking about Amazon UK
Services, the bit of the company where people process your orders and
send them to your house, picking stuff out, putting it in boxes.
Their turnover went up 50%, but the tax bill came down to 7 million. You
are quite right that although their turnover went up, their profits went
down, partly because of the way they pay their staff. They have 24,000
staff in the UK, about 60,000 working in the centres. When you
arrive as a permanent staff member, you get ?1000 worth of shares, there
you go. Over time, if the share price goes up, the value of those
shares goes up as well. You can't catch them in on day one, but when
you do, if they have gone up a lot in value, the company as to account
and say, this is the value of the stuff we gave to our staff members.
For the last couple of years, the Amazon share price has rocketed, so
some of those awards are worth much more, so when the company does its
accounts, it paid this, which is now with that, so the expenses have gone
up, so their profits go down. So good for Amazon, it doesn't cost
them any cash, good for the employees, because they get a
windfall, which they mostly do not have to pay tax on, because while
allowed to receive ?3600 per year from your employer without paying
tax, so good for the employee, good for the company, bad for HMRC,
because they do not see any of this money. So the profits of Amazon UK
Services were about 24 million, they paid just over 7 million in tax, and
that is legit? And if the Government have a problem, they need to put up
rates? Exactly right, and the more the share price goes up, the less
tax HMRC gets, and it is an unusual way for a company, for jobs like
this, for people to be paid. Very common in Silicon Valley, and it is
an approach that has this unusual effect.
It emerged that during the court process that led to 18 convictions
of child abuse in Newcastle, police paid a convicted child rapist
The former editor of Vogue magazine Alexandra Shulman posted this selfie
on her Instagram page. Some say it is refreshingly honest and normal
because that's what we look like in our bikinis, let's be honest. Others
say it's hypocrisy because after years of heading that magazine
packed with thin, tanned women, should never put an image like that
on the cover of Vogue. As a woman, does that image inspire you?
With the news, here's Matthew in the BBC Newsroom.
North Korea says its plan to fire four missiles near the US territory
of Guam will soon be ready, as a war of words with
State media said rockets would pass over Japan and land in the sea
about 17 miles from Guam, if the plan is approved
It denounced Donald Trump's warnings of "fire and fury" and said the US
Earlier, a little boy who lives on Guam begged for calm.
Please stop, there are families that live here on Guam. My grandma just
had knee surgery and she's in the hospital. Please stop.
The number of people waiting for routine surgery in England
in June was the highest in almost ten years.
3.83 million patients were on lists for operations.
Other key NHS targets were also missed -
including urgent referrals for cancer care.
A police chief has said paying a child rapist ?10,000 as part of an
investigation into a grooming gang was the right thing. Northumbria
Police's Steve Ashman said the information he provided led to the
conviction of 17 men and a woman for abusing girls in Newcastle.
Charities criticised the force for paying the criminal.
Some prisoners should be able to use video calling technology such
as Skype to stay in touch with their families -
to help cut reoffending, the government's been told.
A review suggests so-called "virtual visits" should be made available
for inmates whose relatives cannot attend jail.
A prisoner who receives visits from a relative, is around 40 % less
The driver of a double-decker bus has been taken to hospital after it
crashed into a shop on a busy London High Street. Police were called this
morning after a bus hit a shop near Clapham Junction in south-west
London. It was a Route 77 double-decker bus. Paramedics
treated six passengers at the scene, the Fire Brigade freed two people
trapped on the upper deck. Looks pretty nasty.
That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC
Here's some sport now with Hugh Ferris.
Jess is that the London Stadium again. Good morning.
Isaac Makwala could complete one of the more extraordinary stories
at the World Athletics Championships with a medal later.
After being banned from competing in London because of
The Botswana sprinter was then given a reprieve via this time trial
which he used to get through to the semis of the 200
metres, and then later on he made the final,
Mo Farah's progress to the 5000 metres final was secured,
despite him feeling "a little beaten up".
He hurt his knee and leg in winning 10k gold but insists he'll be ok
for his last major track race on Saturday.
Later Katarina Johnson-Thompson will attempt to qualify
She'll have to improve on her efforts in the heptathlon
Rory McIlory says he has nothing to prove ahead of the US PGA
Championship which starts this evening in North Carolina.
He's among a top-class field, trying to stop the American Jordan Spieth
becoming the youngest player to complete a career grand slam.
Newcastle was yesterday added to the list of towns and cities
where girls have suffered from the predations
17 men of Asian heritage and one white woman were convicted yesterday
for their part in a "cynical organisation" which groomed
vulnerable young girls and women into sex.
That list of towns now includes Rochdale, Derby,
Liverpool, Peterborough, all have seen multiple convictions
of predominantly Pakistani men for child sexual exploitation.
So do we need to be looking further into the reasons
Sarah Champion, the Shadow Secretary for Women and Equalities,
is calling for research into this issue.
She joins us now from Sheffield to explain.
What is it that we need to understand more? I just can't
believe that we are here doing the same story in a different town. This
is going to keep going on and on and on until we grasp the nettle. What
we need to look at is why this specific crime is a caring. This
specific crime is organised gangs of dominantly Pakistani British men
going out and looking for vulnerable children, predominantly girls,
grooming, exploiting, trafficking, abusing them across the country.
What frustrates me is that we are not going to the root of the
problem. We aren't protecting our children properly so they understand
about this crime. We also now have probably hundreds of these
perpetrators in jail, so let's start doing some research. The government
needs to paid to do research and see what are the commonalities. It's not
rocket science. This is a specific group of men doing this crime so
let's understand why. What are the drivers? What can we do to prevent
it in the future? I don't want to be sitting here in another six months
with another town. It's getting too much, Victoria. I hear your words
for money to be put into research but what do you believe could be at
the root of the problem? Obviously it is a complex issue but what kind
of things are you thinking could be at the root? This is me guessing
because I don't know, I'm obviously not Pakistani but I know
particularly the Pakistani women I talked to. There does seem to be
that women and girls are not as respected as much as boys are
respected. There seems to be, I don't know if there is a manual on
the inter-net but there seems to be a tight pattern of how the grooming
process happens. This is obviously being shared amongst members within
the Pakistani community. The girls that I've worked with, not only in
Rob but other towns are being trafficked to the different towns
where we are seeing this pattern happening. There have -- we have to
get to the root of it and address it. I'm sorry it's quite unpalatable
for some people. The reason I'm a bit fragile is I was up all night
worrying. I know that Islamophobia is getting more and more in this
country. I know there will be a backlash against the Pakistani
community with me saying this. I also know that we have to do
something, because this is a minority of people. Unless we stop
them and deal with them as abusers, deal with them as paedophiles, the
whole community is getting smeared by this. We have to be grown up and
deal with it. You say it may be unpalatable to some but unpalatable
to everybody, surely we can agree on that, is young girls being targeted,
groomed and raped aged 12, for goodness' sake. You would think so,
but unfortunately when you look at the two enquiries into the failings
in the city of Robbie Renwick, what we see is not the front line staff
but middle management staff saying to front-line workers take out the
word Asian when identifying people -- the city of Rotherham. Front line
staff have been told they are racist for saying this. They aren't being
racist. This is an identifiable characteristics. They all belonged
to one motorbike gang we would be dealing with that accordingly. We
have to deal with this. Thank you. Sarah Champion, shadows is a gradual
state for women and equality is. Coming up. Alexandra Shulman has
been praised for that selfie, is she an inspiration or a hypocrite?
Should never put that on the front of her former magazine, would she?
-- she would never put that on the front of her former magazine.
School children in some of the most deprived parts of Wales are getting
free school meals these summer holidays paid for by
?500,000 has been allocated which still means only a small
A report earlier this year said that up to three million children
across the UK risked going hungry in the holidays.
We played you Catrin Nye's full report earlier -
here's a short extract before we have conversation about this.
Can you tell me what your favourite foods are?
What did you have for lunch yesterday?
And how many bowls did you have? Three bowls?!
It's one of 39 schools in the most deprived parts of Wales
providing breakfast, lunch and activities
It's funded by the Welsh Government's education department,
a budget controlled in Cardiff rather than Westminster.
Do you guys have to go to school all year round?
My mum think it's good, because she works, has a full-time
job, and normally I sit home with my nan, but because I'm
If the parents don't have enough money, they can put us into school
I think every parent that brings a child in here is grateful for it.
Lots of different reasons - childcare, food, entertainment.
At this time so many people are struggling, like me.
Having to make sure your kids get fed, not just feeding them
with anything but giving them the right food.
They're interacting with other children, playing,
They don't look at it as they're in school,
You guys have eaten more of your vegetables than me.
A report by a cross-party group of MPs warned that three million
children across the UK risk going hungry in school holidays.
A third of the children who go to this school have free school
meals, but you don't need to be eligible to get the free
If you think that it's been decided that children need free school meals
because of the amount of income the family has got, it's not
surprising during the long summer holidays, when suddenly those things
are not there, families are struggling.
This is still only in a tiny proportion of the schools in Wales
and at the moment the education departments in England and Scotland
are not allocating specific funding to lunch clubs.
Charities and local authorities are able to set them up,
but there are calls for more central government money.
Let's talk now to Daphine Aikens, she holds breakfast and lunch clubs
Lindsay Graham is talking to us from Cardiff, where she's visiting
schools there and comparing how free school meals are being effective.
And Ruth Smeeth, on the Parliamentary committee on hunger.
Welcome. How much of a demand I use seeing in London? We see a big
increase every year in the summer holidays, and the Christmas
holidays. We see many more children in the food bank and attending our
holiday clubs. It's a club which provides loads of activities and a
meal at lunchtime. Yes. Yesterday we had about 40 children in our W 12
branch and another 30 in our full branch. About 70 people a day.
That's going up? The amount of people needing food holiday clubs is
increasing. What is your expertise in this area? I've done a Winston
Churchill Fellowship in America to look at their policy on summer
meals. I've been looking at Best practice and innovation in holiday
provision in this country. I wrote a report about the days of the year
where children don't access free school meals. It's not just the free
school meals, it's all the other services that children need to
access as well through education, health and social services. How is
it working in parts of Wales? I think this is gold standard stuff.
I'm going to see one of the schools and see it working. The schools are
public venues and they are closed for 13 weeks of the year. They are a
good place to do a good service like this and all credit to the Welsh
government for what they've done here. Ruth Smeeth, thank you for
talking to us. Some people are watching you who will be thinking
there is no way in 2017 that parents cannot afford to feed their kids, if
potentially they budget properly. What do you say to that? I think
we've got to be really aware of what we are talking about. If your child
qualifies for free school meals during the summer holidays you have
to pay for a minimum of five extra meals per day but probably more
likely ten if they qualify for free breakfast as well. That's ten extra
meals per child per week. When you add onto that the fact all research
is saying one third of parents are going without food at some point
during the school holidays in order to feed their children, this isn't
just a matter of budgeting, this is about how we feed our children. We
are one of the richest countries in the world what's happening in the
country is heartbreaking. What kernel stories do you hear from
parents when they dropped their children off in the summer holidays?
A lot of stories about people on low incomes, so families where parents
are working, but when it comes to the school holidays, they are not
getting free school meals, whether breakfast and lunch or just to
lunch, and it is a huge increase on family budgets. I had a lovely mum
withered two little boys, and she is a victim of domestic violence who
had to leave home in the middle of the night, arrived at a hostel in
London, she doesn't have any... She can't work, she has just arrived,
trying to get the kids settled into new accommodation, she doesn't have
any benefits. And the holiday club is a godsend for her. But you are
saying there are children there with parents, two parents who both work,
and they still need free school meals during the holidays.
Absolutely, it is a chronic issue, because they are not earning enough,
and in the holidays, the extra cost of that food can be ?30 per week per
child according to the all-party report on anger. And that is a lot
of money for anybody, let alone somebody on a low income. So who
pays for the meals when they come to your club? We appeal for funding, so
the Innocent Project Ara funded some Trussell Trust foodbanks, and we
have also had donations. Lindsey, what you see in Wales, which you
have described as the gold standard, you think it should be funded by
British taxpayers? I think from the report, there were six specific
recommendations, and I was just sitting writing the number of
programmes, big scale programmes that I have seen across the UK, and
there are about 14. But there are hundreds of these projects across
the country, and there is a mixture of funding, and this report
suggested that it isn't the Government's duty alone. The
commercial world and the third sector and the statutory sector are
picking it up. In Wales here, it is joint funding through the Welsh
Government. We all have a duty to ensure that our children are well
cared for, we can't ask them to be the global citizens, politicians,
doctors and nurses of the future unless we start looking after them.
It is a child poverty issue as well. We have got families who are
homeless, zero-hours contracts, upstream measures are needed to
tackle child poverty, as well as the downstream measures. We cannot have
hungry children in this country, it is a national disgrace. A couple of
messages from Sue, whilst I have sympathy for anyone who struggles to
be their children, 30 years ago we had no help from government. Lara
says, it is a great idea, but surely it should not need to be done in one
of the richest countries in the world in 2017. I agree that it
definitely shouldn't need to be done, and what I am really asking
for from government is support for those community groups, which does
include funding, who are providing this. In my own constituency this
summer, we have had a series of pilots happening, demand has
exceeded expectations. We have had one of the play centres, we were
expecting 25 kids a day, we are averaging 90. We have got other
opportunities happening across my constituency, where dozens of
children, and this is the first year we have been able to put together an
initiative to fund it, it is being funded locally, as well as through
the national lottery and others. I want national funding plus a level
of safeguards so that people can do it properly, there is support for
community groups trying to do this. But I couldn't agree more, it is a
disgrace and simply shouldn't be happening in the 21st century. Act
for coming on the programme. -- thanks. The number of people waiting
for routine NHS surgery in England in June was the highest in ten
years, just over 90% of patients on waiting lists were seen within 18
weeks, below the target of 92%. Our health editor, Hugh Pym, is here.
The highest for quite a long time, why? Well, Victoria, part of this is
because the NHS is doing more operations every year, so if it is
doing more procedures, you will get more people waiting. But that is not
the whole explanation. Many doctors, surgeons and others are saying it
reflects the mounting pressure on the NHS, more people having to wait
for routine surgery, and that figure of 3.83 million people waiting in
England was the highest since December 2000 and seven. Within
that, the total waiting more than 18 weeks... Which is supposed to be the
target. It should be 92% who start their treatment within 18 weeks. But
373,000 were waiting longer than that, up 21% year-on-year from that
target which was missed. People are saying something has to give, and
this is what is giving, the NHS is under pressure on all sides, it is
having to put more money into A, and it has missed that target again,
it is and pressure to spend in all areas, and a Simon Stevens, the head
of NHS England, gave the nod to hospitals back in March - if
something has to give, it probably has to be waiting lists. That might
sound fine in theory, if you have to deal with mil urgent cases, but
people waiting a long time for hip and knee surgery, they will be very
frustrated. So is that what routine surgeries, hip and knee is, what
kind of stuff are we talking about? If you are waiting for a new hip, it
must be blooming painful. Exactly, it could even be routine surgery of
any description that is not urgent, or a procedure. It is not an
emergency. So you have to wait, and you could be in a lot of pain, and
for hip and knee surgery, there are parts of the NHS which are
restricting the criteria, so you have to be in more pain before you
qualify for it, and then if you aren't third, you have to wait more
than 18 weeks in some cases. -- and then if you are referred. NHS
England chiefs would say, we have been told by the Government that it
is A which is very important, because people are waiting more than
four hours, and that something has to, if you like, take up the slack.
But NHS England say they want to get back on target. Waiting lists was a
huge issue back in the late 1980s when New Labour came in, they
pledged to bring down waiting times, and it is becoming an issue again.
And where are we with money going into the NHS in England and Wales?
Some will say, if you put more money in, it will help with bringing
waiting times down again. Well, the money in England is going up a lot
less rapidly than it did last year, and for next year as well. So still
getting more? And not keeping up with demand. If it carries on rising
at 4% per year, more patients needing more treatments for
understandable reasons, but the budgets are going up at only about
1%. Scotland and Ireland have devolved, they're spending has not
gone up as rapidly as in England, so they are facing the same problems
with waiting list as well. Their waiting lists are getting longer, so
it is a problem throughout the NHS in the UK, this is just the latest
illustration of it. Thank you, Hugh. Not the bikini shot you'd expect
from a woman who's spent decades overseeing the promotion of perfect,
often airbrushed, This is Alexandra Shulman,
recently retired editor of Vogue, a woman of a certain age -
that's 59 - and now a selfie taker gone viral, mosquito bites
and wobbly bits and all. A lot of women replying to her feet
have said it is refreshing you have posted this picture, a few women
have said this is hypocritical, because you oversaw a fashion bible
where you have a picture like that on that front.
Let's speak now to the stylist and image consultant Ceril Campbell.
She's styled many celebrities including the likes
of Zara Phillips, Darcey Bussell and Serena Williams.
Good morning. What do you think of the selfie from Alexandra Shulman?
Well, funnelling of, I posted one of myself paddle boarding on Instagram,
because I am older than Alex. -- funnily enough. I think we can all
do what we want to do, we shouldn't have to airbrush, we should be
confident in our bodies, and my clients, not celebrities, but real
women, everything I do is to help women look in the mirror and
appreciate all their good bits and look at the whole of themselves, not
just focus on the bad bits. Because we all have something that is really
good about ourselves, and real bodies, we are not on Love Island,
we are not perfect, we don't need to be airbrushed, and I also go into
schools and teach teenagers Annie Power of social media and how it
affects negative body images. -- about the power of social media.
No-one I have ever dressed is perfect, however famous they are. So
refreshing that Alexandra Shulman has done this, but what about the
charge of hypocrisy? She has written about the pressure on women, she has
acknowledged it, but yet she has presided over Vogue for 25 years,
where already beautiful and thin women are airbrushed to within an
inch of their life in order to appear on the cover. This is true,
but I suppose that anyone in a high-profile position, you have to
be careful what you put out on social media, because everything on
social media is at there, is at there, it is difficult to get rid
of. If you are the head of Vogue, you wouldn't post a bikini picture
of yourself because it is not pertinent, it doesn't make you look
authoritative anymore, does it, really? And to be honest, I think
you have to... If you're going to tell other people what to do,
especially if you are in a position as Vogue, you have to give yourself
some sort of... It is the equivalent of not... You need to dress for the
job, you are the face of the brand, so putting yourself up in a bikini
is not the face of the brand. I and not suggesting it would have been
wise for her to do that when she was the editor, but such a position of
influence, she could have banned airbrushing in her own magazine if
she had wanted to. She was never the skinny editor, out of all the
editors and people sitting on the front row... I know, but she was the
editor of the magazine, she could have done what you wanted, but
whatever she wanted on the cover, but a size 16 woman on the cover of
British Vogue, what a statement that would have made! It would have, but
you are very beholden... When you are in the magazine world, which I
am not, you are very beholden to your advertisers, which is very sad,
because they keep the magazine alive, and obviously with some money
to be able to publish it. So often you can only do what the advertisers
allow you to do. I remember years ago I used to be involved in a
magazine which was for older women, and none of the advertisers would
advertise in it because they felt nobody over the age of 35 was going
to be wanting to buy that magazine or buy a magazine. Which is really
sad. Thank you, Ceril Campbell. I do apologise for pronouncing your name
that way! I appreciate your time. And thanks for your time today, BBC
Newsroom Live is coming up next, have a good day.
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