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I'm Matthew Price, welcome to the programme.

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Nine members of G4S staff are suspended over allegations of abuse

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and assault at an immigration centre. We will give you all the

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details. It was an image of the Syrian

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refugee crisis that shocked the world -

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a little boy dressed in shorts and a T-shirt,

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drowned and lying face-down Two years on, Alan Kurdi's aunt

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talks to us exclusively about whether his death

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has changed anything. Two years later after that's

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tragedy, I really urge citizens to go out there and tell the

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politicians, their leaders, to find a solution.

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Businesses are getting fed up with the slow progress

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That's the warning from the international trade secretary,

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They want to know that there'll continue to be an open and liberal

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trading environment in Europe, and there's a worry that if Britain

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doesn't get a trade deal it wants, you could end up with impediments

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to trade and investments in Europe that don't exist today.

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We'll have the details and we'd love to hear from you if your

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And a crackdown on powerful vacuum cleaners - why new rules from Europe

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mean your house may never be as clean again.

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We're also talking about childcare this morning.

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If you're one of the parents eligible to receive 30 hours'

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free childcare a week, have you applied to take part

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in the scheme and have you experienced any problems finding

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Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning.

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The private sector security company G4S has suspended nine members

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of staff from an immigration removal centre near Gatwick Airport

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following an investigation by the BBC's Panorama.

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The programme says it has covert footage recorded at Brook House

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showing officers "mocking, abusing and assaulting"

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G4S has said there was "no place for the type of conduct described

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in the allegations" and that it would "continue to focus on the care

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Our Social Affairs Correspondent Alison Holt joins me.

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What more can you tell us? This is an investigation by the BBC Panorama

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programme, and an investigating officer was undercover there. These

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are people who have finished their prison sentence and are due to be

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deported from the country at this centre. The others are people who

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have overstayed their visas, asylum seekers, and people who haven't done

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anything criminal in terms of overstaying in terms of immigration

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offences, so it is quite a toxic mix, ideas described by the

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programme, within that centre. We know that the officers found

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widespread drug use, particularly the drug Spice, and high levels of

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self harm, and officers who were mocking and abusive in their

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behaviour, allegedly. So it is a toxic mix, the programme will be

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looking at those aspects in detail on Monday. And G4S obviously taking

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it very seriously indeed this morning. Thank you very much indeed

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for that, Alison. Annita is in the BBC

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Newsroom with a summary Good morning, everyone. The

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international trade Secretary has said that the UK must not be allowed

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to be blackmailed by the European Union over the cost of leaving. Liam

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Fox said businesses had become impatient with the slow progress of

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the Brexit negotiations. It's very clear that businesses not

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just in Europe but investors in places like here in Japan

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are getting impatient and want to see what that final

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shape of that arrangement's They want to know that there'll

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continue to be an open and liberal trading environment in Europe,

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and there's worry that, if there's not the sort

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of agreement that Britain wants, you could end up with impediments to

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trade and investment across Europe There is frustration on both sides.

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And there was some transference going on, a lot of frustration from

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British ministers at the moment after a very tetchy press conference

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in Brussels yesterday in which the chief EU negotiator said it was some

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way off opening these trade talks, wider trade talks at the British

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Government are keen to get started, keen to get under way to try to

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reassure businesses that they can still have confidence after Brexit.

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Those trade talks may well be delayed towards the end of the year,

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it certainly looks as though that is how things are going in Brussels at

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the moment, and one of the key sticking points, or not the only one

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that one of the key ones is this so-called divorce Bill, effectively

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the EU is saying show us your money, tell us how much you are prepared to

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pay to leave the European Union, and the British Government has been

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reluctant to do so. Liam Fox has been arguing that one of the ways to

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release attentions is to park some of these issues and get the trade

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talks started. But whether you can reduce tensions by using language

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like blackmail, that remains to be seen. He is effectively saying there

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should not be a price to pay to start these negotiations. I think at

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this stage it might actually fuel tensions rather than reduce them.

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Iain, thank you very much. The RAF is now the first branch

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of the British military to open From today, they can apply

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to join the RAF Regiment, a front line combat force whose main

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task is to patrol and The Defence Secretary,

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Sir Michael Fallon, has described the move -

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which is a year ahead of schedule - Our correspondent Mark Lobel

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has got the details. This is significant

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moment for the RAF. The first branch of the British

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military to open up all areas But now they can apply to join

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the RAF's currently all-male infantry combat unit, which patrols

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and protects airfields. They fought in Afghanistan

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and suffered casualties. The RAF Regiment is relatively

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small, just over 2,000 strong, and with women making up

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about 10% of the Air Force as a whole, there's unlikely to be

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a flood of applications. Last July, former PM

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David Cameron overturned hundreds of years of military

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tradition to allow women to take up In April, the Royal Armed Corps

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opened its doors to females. PM Theresa May was there to witness

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the graduation at Sandhurst Today, it's the RAF's ground

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fighting force opening its doors. And by the end of next year,

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women should be able to join the even more physically

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demanding Army infantry unit Not everyone welcomes these changes,

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but after studies concluded women are physically up for the fight,

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now potential recruits can President Trump is expected to ask

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Congress for ?4.5 billion of funds to help those

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affected by Storm Harvey. The total cost of repairing

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the damage and compensating residents whose homes have been

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affected, is estimated to be more Celebrities such as singer Beyonce,

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actors Sandra Bullock and Leonardo DiCaprio,

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have promised to contribute President Trump says

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he will give $1 million He plans to return

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to Texas tomorrow. Sinn Fein has dismissed a call

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by the DUP to resume power-sharing. Arlene Foster made

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the suggestion during talks Sinn Fein said establishing

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an executive before they'd resolved their disputes would lead

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to a collapse and fail the people Sales of the noisiest and most

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powerful vacuum cleaners will be restricted under EU

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rules from today. Machines using more than 900 watts

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and emitting more than 80 decibels will be banned from sale

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when existing stocks run out. Our environment analyst

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Roger Harrabin explains. Some of these vacuum cleaners

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will be on the banned Cleaners like this Sebo

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automatic gobble 1100 watts. That's too high for new European

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standards, so this model Anti-EU campaigners say Europe

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should have no say in the sort But experts say households can

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save a small fortune on electricity bills if only the least efficient

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machines can be driven There's no dispute that EU standards

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are forcing down energy The manufacturers claim

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they are prepared for it. Consumers are really not prepared

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for the performance hits they will experience

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from the new machines. So will the UK keep European

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standards after Brexit? Hundreds of thousands of people

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in Birmingham could see piles of rubbish mounting in the streets

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again as bin-workers resume strike Last month industrial action

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was suspended to allow talks between the council and unions -

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but the strike is back on again after the council

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said it was issuing A Georgia police officer

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who was shown on a video telling a woman during a traffic stop not

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to worry because police "only kill black people" retired yesterday,

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after authorities sought The dashcam video shows

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the Cobb County police officer standing by a car pulled over

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alongside a road last year and instructing the woman

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in the front passenger seat to use the mobile phone in her

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lap to make a call. That's a summary of the latest BBC

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News - more at 9.30. Thank you, Annita. What a shocking

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piece of footage. So, let's get some sport. How did

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the transfer window end? Hello. There was plenty of money spent in

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the Premier League yesterday, more than spent on the final day of the

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transfer window, we just didn't see any of it going on the really big

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names. The figures really show this summer that the Premier League clubs

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beat their gross spent by 23%, fuelled by the television rights

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deal, it now means it is six summers in a row that English clubs have

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beaten their own record. They spent more money than any of the other

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major European leagues, and that trend is set to continue.

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So much more money, 23%. What other details, who is moving where? Lets

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get down to the nitty-gritty. We didn't see the biggest of the

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transfers go through, we spoke about Arsenal's Alexis Sanchez. 24 goals

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last season, he could have been the missing piece from Manchester city,

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but after a ?60 million bid and an agreement in principle were made,

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City were left disappointed because Arsenal wouldn't sell him without

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getting in a replacement. That was meant to be the France Wenger Lamah,

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that was also agreed, but he opted against moving to North London. That

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meant Sanchez was stuck at the Emirates. He could be offered for

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free next summer at the end of his deal. Also staying put is Ross

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Barkley, another deal that was agreed, this time between Everton

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and champions Chelsea, in fact Everton claim he had even gone as

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far as having a medical. But that was denied by a source close to the

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player. Not a great wind over Chelsea, up until yesterday they

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missed several big targets, but they did do a couple of deadline day

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deals, including England's Danny Drinkwater, who made a 35mm hands

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move from Leicester City, Premier League winners in 2015. I can't run

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off all the deals right now, they are all on the website. But one more

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could happen today, Philippe Coutinho could be leaving Liverpool,

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he has already been the subject of a ?140 million bid from Barcelona,

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that was rejected by Liverpool, but the Spanish transfer window not

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closing until tonight, that means he could be on his way. We were keep an

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eye on that one today, and maybe Riyad Mahrez will leave Leicester to

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go to Spain as well, there is still a little way to go before we stop

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talking about these transfers this summer. Thank you very much, and we

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are going to be talking a lot more about the football transfers, we

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will even have a football pitch here in the studio, so look out for that.

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The story of little Alan Kurdi who drowned after fleeing from Syria

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shocked people around the world and you might find the image -

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which we are about to show you distressing, especially

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Lying face-down in the sand, the picture of Alan drew

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the world's attention to the deadly migrant crossings.

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The three-year-old drowned off the shores

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near the Turkish resort of Bodrum, after a boat carrying refugees sank,

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while he was attempting with his family to reach the Greek

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This image shows a Turkish police officer carrying the tiny body

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Within a few hours that image had gone viral,

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becoming the top trending picture on social media.

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But it wasn't just Alan who lost his life that day.

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His brother Galip and mother Rehana also lost their lives and only his

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Politicians around the world promised action.

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In Britain, more than 100,000 people marched on the streets

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calling on the government to welcome refugees.

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It led to the former Prime Minister, David Cameron, promising that the UK

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would take in 4,000 Syrian refugees a year.

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But on the eve of the second anniversary, Tima Kurdi,

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Alan's aunty, says the situation is getting worse.

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We'll hear from her in a moment, but first here's an extract

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from her interview two years ago when she told us what happened.

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Once again, I should warn you that the details

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Just a small wave of water splashed him, and Alan was laughing

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so loud and he said, "Oh, my God, Daddy, this

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On the other side, Galib was crying and scared.

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All of a sudden, he said, we hit the big wave,

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so it flipped the boat upside down, and then Abdullah, he tried

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to hold the two boys, and then the wave kept pushing him

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down, so he tried to push them up, and he screamed at them

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to tell them, "Please, don't die, just breathe!"

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And the wave kept pushing them down, so Abdullah finally managed

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So he looked in his left arm, Galib was finished,

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He looked at Alan, Alan was, his eye was bleeding.

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He said, I don't know why he has blood in his eye,

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and he's finished, he's dead, so he closed his eye

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And he said, OK, I'm going to let him go to go save my wife.

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He look around, look around until finally he saw his wife

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floating in the water like a balloon.

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Tima is currently flying to Erbil to spend the anniversary

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with her brother, but spoke exclusively to us earlier today

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and told us how she is marking the anniversary his death.

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The refugee camp there and for my brother Abdullah, I can't explain,

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he never healed completely, but every time he goes to the refugee

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camp and talks to them it gives him hope and he obviouslies look at it

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as I am going to be a person who can be the force and give them what I

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can give them or what he couldn't do to his own children. From Canada I

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decided to open a foundation and it's fairly new, we don't have

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charity number yet, we need to wait. But people can donate and hopefully

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we are going to, to Alan, the boy on the beach will never be forgotten.

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That's an amazing thing to be doing after you have suffered to much

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heartache and grief. You mentioned your brother, who clearly isn't

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coping at all well. No, I can not explain it to you. Just imagine

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losing your whole family, not just one, and his wife, it's not easy.

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But I keep encouraging him, I keep reminding him that maybe God wants

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him to do something, by opening foundation to help innocent children

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who have nothing to do in this world expect to have a good life so I give

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him hope. Emotionally it's not easy for him. It's up and down. It's been

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two years. Emotionally... I am not the only one, there are thousands of

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families like my brother, they have the same thing, we see it every day,

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today it's happening and it's sad, it's sad to see the world, we are

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sitting and watching and not doing enough. It sounds like this is also

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affecting you and partly at least because you feel that the world has

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forgotten Alan's story. I call on the world's leaders, they are the

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only one who can bring the end to this conflict, everywhere in the

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world. They need to sit down and find a peaceful solution, political

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solution to end the war everywhere. Even if we look around right now we

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see refugees from war, we see people affected, we see hatred around

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Europe, we see terrorists killing innocent victims. This is

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unacceptable. And I fear and I have feelings that we didn't see the

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worst yet, if we can not do anything. If we are going to keep

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watching and pretend, you know, yes, it's - and go back to our life and

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not do enough, then we are going to see the worst, everyone of us will

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be affected. So I am counting only on the world's leaders, please, to

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sit around the table and find a solution everywhere, let's focus on

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the root cause those refugees flee their country and find the solution

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for it. We need to focus on that, why those refugees are fleeing their

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homes. No family will flee their home or leave their country other

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than their life, they're risking their life, families are dying every

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single day. Innocent children. It's unacceptable. We are watching the

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news, me, my brother, every time we see innocent children are dying it

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always brings back our tragedy and it hurts because children are

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innocent victims. When the photo was first published of Alan lying,

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drowned, on that beach, many world leaders said this must not be

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allowed to happen again. You have just made another appeal to world

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leaders. Do you think you will be listened to? Two years later after

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that tragedy I really urge every citizen to go out there and tell

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their politician, their leader, to find a solution, peaceful solution.

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Anything we see right now in the world, it's scary, so we don't want

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to continue watching and see the worst because we didn't see the

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worst yet. In 2015 when we had that tragedy as a family and as the world

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seeing that image we thought back then this is the most tragic news

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and was the biggest, but if you ask me two years later which one is the

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worst I will tell you today, today is the worst. So again the people

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all over the world I want them to stand up and add their voices, go to

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your politician, go to your leaders and urge them and ask them, find the

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solution, peaceful solution to end the conflict. Until the solution

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will happen, which is not going to happen overnight, the refugees we

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need to continue to support refugees, to have a shared plan and

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to support them. That's Alan Kurdi's aunt, Tima, speaking to us and you

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can feel how raw that grief still is. Horn story.

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As the US battles with the worst floods in years around 1,200 people

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are expected to have died in flooding in India and Bangladesh.

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We'll be speaking to people from the US and Asia about how

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We'll be speaking to a charity about the emotional and physical

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Now a news summary. Good morning.

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The private sector security company, G4S, has suspended nine members

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of staff from an immigration removal centre near Gatwick Airport

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following an investigation by the BBC's Panorama.

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The programme says it has covert footage recorded at Brook House

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showing officers "mocking, abusing and assaulting"

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G4S has said there was "no place for the type of conduct described

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in the allegations" and that it would "continue to focus on the care

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The International Trade Secretary has said the UK must not allow

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itself to be blackmailed by the European Union over

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Speaking in Japan - where he and Theresa May have been

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discussing future trading relations - Liam Fox said businesses have

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become impatient with the slow progress of the Brexit

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The RAF is now the first branch of the British military to open

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From today, they can apply to join the RAF Regiment,

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a front line combat force whose main task is to patrol and

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The Defence Secretary, Sir Michael Fallon, has

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described the move - which is a year ahead of schedule -

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President Trump is expected to ask Congress for ?4.5 billion

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of funds to help those affected by Storm Harvey.

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The total cost of repairing the damage and compensating

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residents whose homes have been affected, is estimated to be more

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Celebrities such as singer Beyonce, actors Sandra Bullock

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and Leonardo DiCaprio, have promised to contribute

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President Trump says he will give $1 million

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He plans to return to Texas tomorrow.

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The US government has chosen four companies to build concrete

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prototypes for President Trump's proposed wall along

:29:19.:29:19.

Work on the 30-foot high panels is expected to start in the next

:29:20.:29:27.

The prototypes must be impossible to climb or scale with a ladder.

:29:28.:29:31.

Contracts for non-concrete designs are due to be awarded soon.

:29:32.:29:36.

Hundreds of thousands of people in Birmingham could see piles

:29:37.:29:39.

of rubbish mounting in the streets again as bin-workers resume strike

:29:40.:29:41.

Last month industrial action was suspended to allow talks

:29:42.:29:46.

between the council and unions - but the strike is back

:29:47.:29:48.

on again after the council said it was issuing

:29:49.:29:51.

This is not about money. This is about ideology. They want to make

:29:52.:30:03.

cuts and damage trade unionism within the council and they've taken

:30:04.:30:07.

a decision to sabotage an honourable settlement that was reached to do

:30:08.:30:08.

so. Sales of the noisiest and most

:30:09.:30:19.

powerful vacuum cleaners will be restricted under EU

:30:20.:30:21.

rules from today. Machines using more than 900 watts

:30:22.:30:23.

and emitting more than 80 decibels will be banned from sale

:30:24.:30:26.

when existing stocks run out. That's a summary of the latest

:30:27.:30:33.

BBC News - more at ten. Commentator here has said, I thought

:30:34.:30:49.

my wife was mad when she bought and EU compatible vacuum cleaner, but I

:30:50.:30:56.

didn't need to be worried, it is perfectly acceptable. Let's head

:30:57.:31:02.

over and get the sport now. Good morning again.

:31:03.:31:04.

Well, it wasn't the end of the transfer window we'd

:31:05.:31:06.

all expected, but plenty of deals were still done.

:31:07.:31:08.

One move that didn't happen Arsenal refused to sell Alexis Sanchez

:31:09.:31:11.

to Manchester City after agreeing a ?60 million fee.

:31:12.:31:13.

They wanted a replacement in first, but Monaco's Thomas Lemar turned

:31:14.:31:16.

down the chance of a ?90 million move to the Emirates.

:31:17.:31:18.

One player who is on his way to London, though, is England

:31:19.:31:21.

He'll join Premier League champions Chelsea from Leicester City

:31:22.:31:25.

Away from football, the great Roger Federer needed five sets

:31:26.:31:30.

to beat Russia's Mikhail Youzhny as he moved into the third

:31:31.:31:32.

round of the US Open at Flushing Meadows.

:31:33.:31:34.

Another former champion, Rafa Nadal, is also through.

:31:35.:31:36.

And Britain's Chris Froome is still the man to beat

:31:37.:31:39.

in the Vuelta a Espana, but a crash and some

:31:40.:31:41.

technical difficulties means his lead was been trimmed

:31:42.:31:43.

I'll be back with more on those stories just after ten.

:31:44.:31:56.

More than 1,000 people have died in devastating

:31:57.:32:01.

floods affecting India, Bangladesh and Nepal.

:32:02.:32:03.

The disaster has been caused by one of the heaviest monsoons on record

:32:04.:32:06.

Across the globe, residents are still struggling to cope

:32:07.:32:13.

from Save the Children in Dhaka, Bangladesh and Francis Markus

:32:14.:32:17.

from the International Red Cross in Nepal.

:32:18.:32:23.

Obviously much of our media has been focused on events on the other side

:32:24.:32:29.

of the world, the flooding in Houston and elsewhere. But I wonder,

:32:30.:32:34.

perhaps starting with you, Mark, if you can paint a picture of what you

:32:35.:32:41.

have seen there. The level of devastation is horrible, it's

:32:42.:32:48.

massive. Millions of children have been affected, and as we know

:32:49.:32:52.

throughout the region, there are 40 million people overall in all of

:32:53.:32:56.

south Asia, so right now the rains have subsided and people are

:32:57.:33:00.

starting to clean up the debris and try to restore their livelihoods,

:33:01.:33:05.

but the situation is massive. 8 million people throughout Bangladesh

:33:06.:33:11.

are affected. Tens of thousands of homes have been destroyed, and

:33:12.:33:19.

people's lives have been disrupted. And described the situation,

:33:20.:33:21.

Francis, that you have seen in Nepal. Many people are camped out in

:33:22.:33:28.

tents and under tarpaulins in conditions which alternate between

:33:29.:33:35.

baking heat and torrential rain still. And those who have managed to

:33:36.:33:41.

go back to their homes have found that these simple mud and bamboo

:33:42.:33:45.

dwellings are completely waterlogged, and all their meagre

:33:46.:33:49.

possessions have been swept away. You have to remember that the worst

:33:50.:33:52.

affected in this disaster really have been the poorest of the poor,

:33:53.:33:59.

in many case people who are landless, and even if they had the

:34:00.:34:02.

resources to rebuild their houses, they would face a question mark over

:34:03.:34:07.

where they can rebuild, so the future really is very, very

:34:08.:34:10.

uncertain for people, and they need a lot of support to get back on

:34:11.:34:15.

their feet again. It is interesting you start to talk about resources,

:34:16.:34:18.

because of course we are seeing already in the United States, the US

:34:19.:34:23.

Congress is expected to step up with millions. The president has promised

:34:24.:34:28.

a million from his own personal account. But you are dealing with a

:34:29.:34:34.

very different situation in a place like Nepal, aren't you? Absolutely.

:34:35.:34:39.

Even before this disaster hit, people were telling us that the sum

:34:40.:34:45.

total of their possessions really only amounted to a store of grain

:34:46.:34:51.

and a few bits and pieces of clothing and some pots and pans, and

:34:52.:34:57.

so even this has been lost. As far as the people who have lost their

:34:58.:35:01.

homes altogether are concerned, shelter is one of the most urgent

:35:02.:35:07.

concerns, and so is health, because there is an obvious potential for

:35:08.:35:12.

the spread of diseases. And the other major, major problem in Nepal

:35:13.:35:15.

and in the other countries is the amount of farmland and the extent of

:35:16.:35:24.

the destruction of the rice crop. This means people also need support

:35:25.:35:27.

to somehow re-establish their livelihoods and feed their families

:35:28.:35:34.

into the future. Mark, the country you are in, much of it on a river

:35:35.:35:40.

delta, much low-lying and prone to flooding. Does that make an event

:35:41.:35:44.

like this any easier to deal with them the fact that people expect the

:35:45.:35:51.

monsoon season and they expect it to be bad? You can understand that

:35:52.:35:55.

people have been through this before, flooding occurs every year

:35:56.:35:59.

in Bangladesh, and so people do have a keen understanding of what to do

:36:00.:36:04.

in the case of floods. However, these floods were much bigger than

:36:05.:36:08.

normal, and that is what caught every body off-guard. And obviously

:36:09.:36:14.

children don't remember or haven't experienced floods like this ever,

:36:15.:36:18.

and so they are the ones who are most traumatised in a flood

:36:19.:36:22.

situation, and so that is why we are trying to focus on trying to help

:36:23.:36:26.

families restore their livelihoods, get them basic food, shelter, water,

:36:27.:36:32.

but then also try to get kids back into school, make sure they are

:36:33.:36:36.

protected, and then help the families rebuild their livelihoods.

:36:37.:36:40.

So it is a daunting task, because this problem will go on for many

:36:41.:36:45.

months if not years to come, but we should always remember that it is

:36:46.:36:47.

the children who are affected most in these disasters. Mark Pierce, of

:36:48.:36:55.

course the United States, part of it at least, centres on the issue of

:36:56.:36:59.

climate change, partly because of President Trump's thoughts on

:37:00.:37:04.

climate change. In a place like Bangladesh, do people start to say,

:37:05.:37:09.

things are getting worse, it is something to do with man-made

:37:10.:37:13.

climate change and therefore we need even more help from around the

:37:14.:37:16.

world? Does that come into the political discussion? I think it

:37:17.:37:25.

comes into everyone's discussion, not just the political discussion

:37:26.:37:27.

but even the farmer who lives on the delta and tries to tend to his farm

:37:28.:37:33.

and livestock. They are well aware of climate change. They can see it

:37:34.:37:39.

everyday. And they see their land either being flooded every year or

:37:40.:37:45.

facing drought. So people are making choices already as a result of

:37:46.:37:51.

climate change, and I think governments in Bangladesh and south

:37:52.:37:53.

Asia are well aware of what is happening and making plans as well

:37:54.:38:02.

as the international community. Francis, is that your experience in

:38:03.:38:05.

Nepal as well? To people at the sharp end relates directly to

:38:06.:38:09.

climate change? I think that people do wonder about these immense

:38:10.:38:16.

changes and fluctuations which they are seeing. For a start, all the

:38:17.:38:24.

farmers in Nepal are noticing that somehow or other, they yield is less

:38:25.:38:30.

and less from year to year, and then you have that situation where in

:38:31.:38:34.

part of the flood stricken area that I was in a few years ago, they said

:38:35.:38:41.

we had seven or eight years of drought, and suddenly they were hit

:38:42.:38:51.

by this incredibly severe monsoon onslaught of rain, and so inevitably

:38:52.:38:59.

people do wonder what is happening. They have answers, but they just

:39:00.:39:07.

have to respond as best they can, and we need to be with them and

:39:08.:39:12.

respond as best we can. Just because there is a drought situation, that

:39:13.:39:17.

doesn't mean that we can relax our vigilance and stop simulations where

:39:18.:39:21.

we enact what to do in a flood scene. So I think it is a complex

:39:22.:39:26.

picture, and people are trying to react as best they can. And

:39:27.:39:30.

marketeers, a final one from you, if you will. How would you characterise

:39:31.:39:33.

the immediate, the top three priorities right now? The top three

:39:34.:39:40.

priorities are very clear. Food, shelter, water, and then following

:39:41.:39:44.

that, we need to restore people's livelihoods, make sure kids get back

:39:45.:39:49.

into school, to give them some normalcy in their life. We need to

:39:50.:39:53.

make sure that children are protected. Mark Pearce from Save the

:39:54.:39:58.

Children and Francis Markus, International Red Cross, thank you

:39:59.:39:59.

both from Nepal. Coming up, caring for a child with

:40:00.:40:10.

cancer and the emotional and physical toll that this can have on

:40:11.:40:11.

parents. A deal to restore devolved

:40:12.:40:14.

Government in Northern Ireland has been rejected as the two main

:40:15.:40:16.

parties, the DUP and Sinn Fein, Chris pages in Belfast. Does this

:40:17.:40:32.

move is a step closer to direct rule from Westminster? I think it looks

:40:33.:40:37.

at the moment that it does. Northern Ireland has been without a devolved

:40:38.:40:40.

government says the power-sharing executive collapsed in January, and

:40:41.:40:43.

people in Northern Ireland are seeing the effects of that. There is

:40:44.:40:47.

great uncertainty for people working in the public sector, threats of

:40:48.:40:52.

cuts to public services, and last night the DUP leader Arlene Foster

:40:53.:40:56.

made a speech in which she set out a proposal to break the deadlock. She

:40:57.:41:01.

said you restore the Stormont executive, put ministers back into

:41:02.:41:04.

the devolved Government immediately so that they can get spending money

:41:05.:41:07.

on for example health dedication, try to sort those problems out, but

:41:08.:41:11.

she says at the same time, you should have parallel talks to deal

:41:12.:41:16.

with what to be the outstanding sticking point that is preventing

:41:17.:41:19.

the restoration of the devolved government, and that is around

:41:20.:41:22.

language and culture. Sinn Fein, who would be the other half of the

:41:23.:41:26.

power-sharing administration, want a piece of legislation to promote and

:41:27.:41:30.

protect the Irish language, but the Democratic Unionist Party are

:41:31.:41:33.

pushing for a broader law which would also incorporate cultural

:41:34.:41:38.

elements which are more important to Unionists. So that was Mrs Foster's

:41:39.:41:44.

idea, and she said in spite of the fact that the DUP are now in a

:41:45.:41:48.

powerful position at Westminster propping up Theresa May's minority

:41:49.:41:50.

Conservative government, that didn't mean that the DUP didn't want the

:41:51.:41:55.

return of devolution. She said the party were very much of the opinion

:41:56.:42:04.

that this was in the interests of the future of Northern Ireland. But

:42:05.:42:09.

Sinn Fein's leader Michelle O'Neill has been speaking the last

:42:10.:42:12.

half-hour, and this is what she had to say. The DUP have failed to

:42:13.:42:18.

embrace power-sharing. They have failed to embrace the principle is

:42:19.:42:21.

at the heart of the Good Friday Agreement of equality, of mutual

:42:22.:42:29.

respect and of party of esteem. They have acted disrespectfully towards

:42:30.:42:32.

Irish identity and culture, and they have failed to deliver people their

:42:33.:42:37.

rights. Whether that be marriage rights, language rights, economic

:42:38.:42:41.

rights or cultural rights. So that has been the problem at the heart of

:42:42.:42:46.

the political crisis. The fundamental issue of rights. In

:42:47.:42:50.

regards to Arlene Foster's comments last night and the offer of a

:42:51.:42:57.

parallel process, this is not a new offer. This is an issue, the issue

:42:58.:43:01.

of a parallel process has been discussed, and disregarded

:43:02.:43:04.

throughout the course of all of the negotiations which we have had to

:43:05.:43:08.

date. So in essence it was making an offer which they knew would be

:43:09.:43:13.

rejected. The people out there want government. They want locally

:43:14.:43:17.

accountable institutions. They want the institutions to work. But they

:43:18.:43:20.

have to work in the way in which they are intended. They have to work

:43:21.:43:25.

on the principles of power-sharing. So in terms of the offer last night,

:43:26.:43:29.

it was an offer which they knew would be rejected, and it is

:43:30.:43:36.

certainly not a new offer. Michelle O'Neill making it clear that she

:43:37.:43:39.

didn't think that Arlene Foster's proposal last night made any

:43:40.:43:43.

differences regarding progress towards the restoration of

:43:44.:43:46.

devolution. So for the time being it looks like Northern Ireland will

:43:47.:43:50.

continue on this administrative autopilot, civil servants are

:43:51.:43:53.

running the country but they can't make any major policy decisions.

:43:54.:44:02.

They had been an expectation that talks would begin again next week

:44:03.:44:05.

having been on hold over the summer, but are you had heard for the

:44:06.:44:13.

politicians here this morning, the Northern Ireland Secretary James

:44:14.:44:14.

Brokenshire making it clear he doesn't want to return to direct

:44:15.:44:18.

rule from Westminster, but the longer this continues, Matthew, the

:44:19.:44:21.

more likely it is that the Government will have to look at some

:44:22.:44:24.

kind of alternative, and they will have to put in some ministers to run

:44:25.:44:27.

Northern Ireland or the absence of local ministers doing so.

:44:28.:44:29.

Chris, thank you very much indeed. It's one of the worst things that

:44:30.:44:33.

can happen to a parent, finding out your child has

:44:34.:44:36.

a serious illness. Now a leading cancer charity

:44:37.:44:37.

is warning about the damage it can do to a mother or father's mental

:44:38.:44:40.

health, both during and CLIC Sargent surveyed nearly 300

:44:41.:44:43.

parents and careers of young cancer patients and found many have

:44:44.:44:47.

suffered from depression, Some said they felt pressured not

:44:48.:44:48.

to speak out about their problems because they had to be strong

:44:49.:44:56.

for their child, while others said concern about their finances

:44:57.:44:59.

caused additional stress. Let's start by hearing one

:45:00.:45:00.

couple's story who have been Abi spiked two more temperatures

:45:01.:45:03.

during the day today. You're stressing because worrying

:45:04.:45:15.

about her or worrying about the little one,

:45:16.:45:19.

because she's away. Worrying about each other,

:45:20.:45:23.

because it's stressful in itself. Things go through your mind that

:45:24.:45:27.

you just can't help. Abi's poorly quite a lot,

:45:28.:45:31.

especially now she's in maintenance. I think the worst part

:45:32.:45:41.

was when we took her to the hospital and they came back and they said,

:45:42.:45:45.

"Yes, she's got leukaemia." And you just want to crack up,

:45:46.:45:48.

but you kind of know you can't crack up, because you've got to stay

:45:49.:45:59.

strong for her and try and not show her the fear

:46:00.:46:02.

that you're feeling. You're feeling angry,

:46:03.:46:04.

you're feeling upset, confused. What do I do next, where do

:46:05.:46:06.

I go, who do I tell? It's chemo this day,

:46:07.:46:09.

injection that day, bloods this next day,

:46:10.:46:15.

and that is what your I wasn't Debbie any more,

:46:16.:46:22.

I was just Abi's mum, Figures from charities suggest four

:46:23.:46:26.

children are diagnosed with cancer in the UK every day,

:46:27.:46:35.

so let's now speak to some parents Jennie Dalton was diagnosed

:46:36.:46:38.

with post traumatic stress disorder after her daughter was diagnosed

:46:39.:46:44.

with a rare type of cancer. Debbie Moran, who you will have seen

:46:45.:46:51.

in the clip we just played you, she was hospitalised

:46:52.:46:54.

with a suspected mini stroke while dealing

:46:55.:46:56.

with her daughter's leukaemia. Also here is the chief

:46:57.:46:57.

executive for the cancer charity CLIC Sargent,

:46:58.:46:59.

Kate Lee. Good morning to all of you. Let's

:47:00.:47:11.

start with you, Jennie. Post traumatic stress disorder, it's

:47:12.:47:14.

something we think of soldiers when we hear about it. Tell us what

:47:15.:47:20.

happened to you. Isabelle has had an incredibly long journey, seven years

:47:21.:47:25.

of treatment with her tumour. It just got to the stage where I was

:47:26.:47:33.

struggling, really struggling. The nightmares, the constant worry of

:47:34.:47:37.

Isabelle's relapsed three times now, so it's that fear of are we going to

:47:38.:47:41.

beat it? Is my daughter going to get better? It's just there constantly.

:47:42.:47:47.

It doesn't go away. Then when you have that mixed up with your

:47:48.:47:51.

daughter's treatment, the emotional impact, financial impact it all

:47:52.:47:54.

comes together and I got to the stage where I put my hands up and

:47:55.:47:58.

said, you know what, I can't cope. I am really struggling. I need some

:47:59.:48:02.

help. I need support. I went to see my GP and he said, yeah, you are

:48:03.:48:08.

showing classic signs of post traumatic stress disorder. When he

:48:09.:48:13.

said that what did you think? I suppose I was relieved really

:48:14.:48:17.

because you get to the stage where you think am I losing my mind, am I

:48:18.:48:21.

going mad? You have so much constantly going on in your head and

:48:22.:48:26.

you are trying to juggle everything and get the best support and

:48:27.:48:29.

treatment for your child and you are worried about them and you don't

:48:30.:48:35.

think about yourself. It was slow. It was a slow process. It just hit

:48:36.:48:40.

me and I thought something's not right, I don't feel myself, I don't

:48:41.:48:45.

feel I can carry on and when the doctor said you have a diagnosis,

:48:46.:48:51.

you have post traumatic stress disorder, I thought, yeah, I am not

:48:52.:48:56.

surprised. What I have been through. It isn't surprising, and yet I guess

:48:57.:49:03.

the sad thing is that people in your situation perhaps, did anybody talk

:49:04.:49:05.

to you, they obviously talked to you a lot about your daughter's

:49:06.:49:09.

condition and that was very important, but did anybody say at

:49:10.:49:11.

the outset this might be hard for you? All the way through, friends,

:49:12.:49:16.

family, people say to you you need to look after yourself, you need to

:49:17.:49:19.

be strong. Did you believe them? I knew I needed to look after myself,

:49:20.:49:24.

but how? How do I look after myself? I just go on holiday for a week,

:49:25.:49:29.

shall I? My daughter's in the middle of treatment, will I go on holiday,

:49:30.:49:34.

check into a Spa and relax? I know I need to look after myself, you can't

:49:35.:49:39.

when you are at the hospital constantly for nearly seven years.

:49:40.:49:43.

What do you do? Did you feel guilty that you were struggling when your

:49:44.:49:47.

daughter was in such a terrible situation? If I go under, what

:49:48.:49:51.

happens? What happens to my daughter if I go under? I need to be strong.

:49:52.:49:59.

To be honest, when I put my hands up and said I am struggling I started

:50:00.:50:03.

to get support I felt better about myself. I felt stronger. I felt more

:50:04.:50:12.

able to support Isabella and I was dmrad I said I needed -- I was glad

:50:13.:50:17.

I said I needed support, it was like a weight was lifted. Let's talk to

:50:18.:50:22.

Debbie about her experience. Thank you for waiting patiently. Listening

:50:23.:50:27.

to what Jennie has to say, presumably you can understand all

:50:28.:50:30.

those emotions and more? Totally, yeah. I totally understand where

:50:31.:50:36.

Jennie's coming from, it's very much as they say, they tell you to look

:50:37.:50:39.

after yourself, it's where do I look after myself? It's very hard. How do

:50:40.:50:45.

you find that space? I don't really know how you do find that space.

:50:46.:50:49.

When your child's really ill and they're going in hospital it's very

:50:50.:50:53.

difficult to find that space. It's catching moments when you can

:50:54.:50:58.

really. If your child's well and you can have five minutes to yourself,

:50:59.:51:01.

that's when you have it, but it's very difficult to get that. Tell us

:51:02.:51:09.

about your daughter. Abigail is six and was diagnosed when she was

:51:10.:51:17.

three. She has leukaemia. She's doing well at the moment, initially

:51:18.:51:21.

it's very hard and you kind of just get into that mode and go through

:51:22.:51:25.

the treatment. Go through each stage. Chemo, without really

:51:26.:51:30.

thinking about it or trying not to think about it really. But she's a

:51:31.:51:34.

funny little girl. She smiles most of the time all the way through it,

:51:35.:51:39.

as do most of the children that are affected with cancer, surprisingly.

:51:40.:51:43.

Do you think she feels your anxiety? I try not to let her feel my aping

:51:44.:51:49.

site but I think at times yes -- my anxiety, but I think at times, yes,

:51:50.:51:54.

she does. You try to stay strong, obviously they need to know when you

:51:55.:51:59.

are worrying but she will turn around and say, mum, I am fine, let

:52:00.:52:04.

me do this, but it's hard to switch off at times. That's the hardest

:52:05.:52:08.

thing, isn't it, you want to protect your child from this and from what

:52:09.:52:10.

you are feeling because you are meant to be strong, you are meant to

:52:11.:52:16.

be helping them. Do you worry that your daughter picks up on the stress

:52:17.:52:22.

that you are under? Same as Debbie, I try my best to not let her see it.

:52:23.:52:28.

She doesn't need the added stress of worrying about her mum on top of

:52:29.:52:31.

everything else. It's so hard, especially at night. It's at night

:52:32.:52:37.

when she's asleep and she's settled, not in pain, she's fine, that's when

:52:38.:52:41.

it hits me and that's the hardest part. That's when I do most of my

:52:42.:52:45.

crying in the middle of the night. In that moment of relaxation and it

:52:46.:52:50.

catches up with you. Kate Lee, it's clearly a problem not spoken about

:52:51.:52:55.

enough, what support is out there for people? I think our concern is

:52:56.:53:01.

that the support is patchy around the country. We know that

:53:02.:53:07.

organisations like CLIC Sargent we have a network across the UK working

:53:08.:53:12.

directly with parents and our social workers will try wherever possible

:53:13.:53:15.

if a parent says they're struggling and need help to get them referred

:53:16.:53:20.

into an NHS counselling service but often that takes a long time. Are

:53:21.:53:28.

GPs picking up on this? I think if parents ask for help, I don't know

:53:29.:53:32.

how much, we are concerned whether it's proactively offered. I think

:53:33.:53:36.

GPs try. I think sometimes healthcare professionals think as

:53:37.:53:38.

soon as the child is out of treatment it's all OK and lots of

:53:39.:53:43.

parents tell us that the trauma starts after the treatment ends and

:53:44.:53:47.

the professionals disappear because they start thinking, one dad said to

:53:48.:53:54.

me every time he sees a Bruce on his ten-year-old boy he is convinced the

:53:55.:54:00.

leukaemia is coming back, but ten-year-old boys have bruises. It's

:54:01.:54:03.

living with that fear. Lots of people think it's over now, the

:54:04.:54:07.

treatment is finished, they're well. It's really trying to understand

:54:08.:54:11.

that it's a long-term impact. Often children are treated miles away from

:54:12.:54:15.

home. Our NHS isn't well set up to provide counselling services for

:54:16.:54:19.

parents aren't in their local GP practice, often parents don't see

:54:20.:54:22.

their GP for a long time because they're living in Bristol or

:54:23.:54:29.

Birmingham or miles from home. We talk about this constantly, about

:54:30.:54:34.

the need for greater understanding within the NHS of mental health

:54:35.:54:42.

issues. We are joining through this child cancer awareness month, we

:54:43.:54:48.

want to raise awareness of support, to support mental health charities

:54:49.:54:52.

in saying provision in the UK still isn't good enough, we must look at

:54:53.:54:58.

improving this and thinking about parents of children with cancer

:54:59.:55:02.

spending most of their lives in hospitals, what's the provision

:55:03.:55:05.

available in hospital rather than in the community? Also just remembering

:55:06.:55:10.

that most parents are wrenched out of the family network and friends

:55:11.:55:15.

network because they're sent to hospitals, you are often sent to

:55:16.:55:19.

hospital a long way from home. Debbie, it's brave of you to talk

:55:20.:55:24.

about this and that in itself is going to help plenty of parents

:55:25.:55:27.

unfortunately in the same situation as you, do you have specific advice

:55:28.:55:31.

that might help mothers and fathers? Don't be afraid to ask for help. You

:55:32.:55:36.

are allowed to crumble. You do your best to be able to be strong but if

:55:37.:55:41.

you crumble, speak to somebody. Don't think that you have to be

:55:42.:55:44.

brave all the time. You need help too. You are going through it as

:55:45.:55:49.

much as your child is going through it. And Jennie? There are

:55:50.:55:54.

professionals out there whose job it is to help you, I don't know what we

:55:55.:55:59.

would have done as a family without the support of our CLIC Sargent

:56:00.:56:06.

social worker, she was amazing. Ask for help, tell people. Tell people I

:56:07.:56:12.

am struggling, I need some help. It's the hardest thing as a parent

:56:13.:56:15.

that you will ever have to go through to see your child so poorly

:56:16.:56:20.

and you need to be strong for them. And a plea for dads to do that too.

:56:21.:56:27.

Often there is a lot of emphasis, a lot of support focussed on people

:56:28.:56:30.

who seem ongoing through it, we know there is a real problem for dads

:56:31.:56:33.

because they feel they have to be strong. You often forget that

:56:34.:56:38.

fathers actually may hide more than mothers do. Debbie, thank you very

:56:39.:56:47.

much. Jennie as well, and Kate Lee. Still to come: How clean will your

:56:48.:56:51.

house be after the EU bans the sale of powerful vacuum cleaners? We will

:56:52.:56:56.

talk to TV presenter Angie MacKenzie to find out. Let's get the latest

:56:57.:56:58.

weather. Today marks the start of autumn, it

:56:59.:57:09.

did feel like that this morning, on the cool side. A chill across many

:57:10.:57:13.

parts of the UK this morning but there was a good deal of sunshine

:57:14.:57:18.

around. Spectacular start for some parts of the UK. Sun coming up,

:57:19.:57:23.

mist, as well on the horizon. But it signalled what will be for many a

:57:24.:57:27.

dry and sunny start to the new season. There will be a few showers,

:57:28.:57:30.

we have seen them this morning particularly across the Channel

:57:31.:57:34.

Islands, they're fading. One or two isolated one north-west England,

:57:35.:57:40.

Scotland. Heavy ones to the east of Norfolk and Suffolk. Eastern

:57:41.:57:45.

Scotland likely to see showers today. Compared with yesterday most

:57:46.:57:50.

places dry. Better day for Wales, south-west England, more breeze but

:57:51.:57:53.

with strong early September sunshine it will feel pleasant. A better

:57:54.:57:58.

afternoon in the Channel Islands. Eastern England, from Essex,

:57:59.:58:02.

Suffolk, Norfolk, Lincolnshire, Yorkshire and south-east of Scotland

:58:03.:58:05.

is where showers are likely through the afternoon. Can't rule out the

:58:06.:58:08.

odd one elsewhere. But the vast majority will avoid them. Dry, sunny

:58:09.:58:12.

spells and pleasantly warm. Light winds across Scotland and Northern

:58:13.:58:15.

Ireland also helping with that warmth. The showers we see will go

:58:16.:58:20.

on into the evening across parts of eastern England, south-east Scotland

:58:21.:58:25.

and for some into the night. Some close to the coasts of East Anglia

:58:26.:58:29.

and Kent. Misty into tomorrow morning and that autumn chill will

:58:30.:58:32.

be evident again. Temperatures in rural parts of Scotland, northern

:58:33.:58:36.

England, could below enough for a touch of frost on the ground

:58:37.:58:40.

tomorrow morning. Saturday probably the best of the weekend if you need

:58:41.:58:45.

to get out and about. Sunday not bad to begin with but likely to see rain

:58:46.:58:51.

across parts of the UK later. Saturday, some mist around, a chill

:58:52.:58:56.

in the air. A few showers cropping up. England and Wales especially.

:58:57.:59:00.

But very light and isolated. Mainly on the hills. Most of the country

:59:01.:59:06.

dry with lengthy sunny spells and with light winds it will feel

:59:07.:59:12.

pleasantly warm. The fine weather will continue into the evening. It

:59:13.:59:15.

will turn chilly quickly. We have rain starting to get closer to the

:59:16.:59:19.

south-west. It won't be until overnight where we see that in parts

:59:20.:59:24.

of Ireland, Wales, south-west England, a windy and wet start to

:59:25.:59:29.

the day. Driest for longest in the north-east of Scotland. Eastern

:59:30.:59:32.

parts of England too. If you are stuck under that rain it will feel

:59:33.:59:35.

rather cool. If you want to check where that rain is and you are on

:59:36.:59:43.

the move you can update as you go. Bye for now.

:59:44.:59:48.

G4S is forced to suspend nine members of staff, following a BBC

:59:49.:59:56.

The amount spent on football transfers hits a new record.

:59:57.:00:02.

We'll speak to a football agent and sports broadcaster

:00:03.:00:04.

on whether the players are worth the high price tags.

:00:05.:00:10.

As new EU rules lead to a crackdown on the sale

:00:11.:00:15.

of certain vacuum cleaners, we'll be joined by Aggie Mackenzie

:00:16.:00:23.

We are going to look at whether it means your house will be a little

:00:24.:00:28.

dirtier. Consumers are probably not prepared for the performance hits

:00:29.:00:31.

they will experience with new machines. We will be joined by

:00:32.:00:36.

adding a Ken is from How Clean Is Your House to get her views.

:00:37.:00:48.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:00:49.:00:52.

The private sector security company, G4S, has suspended nine members

:00:53.:00:57.

of staff from an immigration removal centre near Gatwick Airport

:00:58.:01:00.

following an investigation by the BBC's Panorama.

:01:01.:01:06.

A panorama investigation to be broadcast on Monday allegedly shows

:01:07.:01:14.

some staff mocking, abusing and showing some violence towards

:01:15.:01:16.

detainees. G4S has said there was "no place

:01:17.:01:18.

for the type of conduct described in the allegations" and that it

:01:19.:01:21.

would "continue to focus on the care The International Trade Secretary

:01:22.:01:24.

has said the UK must not allow itself to be blackmailed

:01:25.:01:29.

by the European Union over Speaking in Japan -

:01:30.:01:31.

where he and Theresa May have been discussing future trading relations

:01:32.:01:36.

- Liam Fox said businesses have become impatient with the slow

:01:37.:01:38.

progress of the Brexit It's very clear that businesses not

:01:39.:01:40.

just in Europe but investors in places like here in Japan

:01:41.:01:45.

are getting impatient and want to see what that final

:01:46.:01:47.

shape of that arrangement's They want to know that there'll

:01:48.:01:49.

continue to be an open and liberal trading environment in Europe,

:01:50.:02:01.

and there's worry that, if there's not the sort

:02:02.:02:03.

of agreement that Britain wants, you could end up with impediments to

:02:04.:02:05.

trade and investment across Europe The RAF is now the first branch

:02:06.:02:08.

of the British military to open From today, they can apply

:02:09.:02:12.

to join the RAF Regiment, a front line combat force whose main

:02:13.:02:16.

task is to patrol and The Defence Secretary,

:02:17.:02:19.

Sir Michael Fallon, has described the move -

:02:20.:02:25.

which is a year ahead of schedule - President Trump is expected to ask

:02:26.:02:28.

Congress for ?4.5 billion of funds to help those

:02:29.:02:38.

affected by Storm Harvey. The total cost of repairing

:02:39.:02:40.

the damage and compensating residents whose homes have been

:02:41.:02:43.

affected, is estimated to be more Celebrities such as singer Beyonce,

:02:44.:02:45.

actors Sandra Bullock and Leonardo DiCaprio,

:02:46.:02:48.

have promised to contribute President Trump says

:02:49.:02:50.

he will give $1 million He plans to return

:02:51.:02:55.

to Texas tomorrow. Sinn Fein has dismissed a call

:02:56.:03:06.

by the DUP to resume power-sharing. Arlene Foster made

:03:07.:03:09.

the suggestion during talks Sinn Fein said establishing

:03:10.:03:10.

an executive before they'd resolved their disputes would lead

:03:11.:03:13.

to a collapse and fail the people Hundreds of thousands of people

:03:14.:03:16.

in Birmingham could see piles of rubbish mounting in the streets

:03:17.:03:20.

again as bin-workers resume strike Last month industrial action

:03:21.:03:25.

was suspended to allow talks between the council and unions -

:03:26.:03:28.

but the strike is back on again after the council

:03:29.:03:31.

said it was issuing They want to make cuts

:03:32.:03:33.

and damage trade unionism within the council and they've taken

:03:34.:03:45.

a decision to sabotage an honourable settlement that was

:03:46.:03:48.

reached to do so. A Georgia police officer

:03:49.:03:52.

who was shown on a video telling a woman during a traffic stop not

:03:53.:03:55.

to worry because police "only kill black people" retired yesterday,

:03:56.:03:58.

after authorities sought The dashcam video shows

:03:59.:04:00.

the Cobb County police officer standing by a car pulled over

:04:01.:04:07.

alongside a road last year and instructing the woman

:04:08.:04:11.

in the front passenger seat to use the mobile phone in her

:04:12.:04:13.

lap to make a call. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:04:14.:04:55.

News - more at 10.30. Still can't get over that footage,

:04:56.:05:06.

just dreadful. We have had some e-mails in. Leighton has responded

:05:07.:05:10.

to the discussion we were having about the stress parents find

:05:11.:05:14.

themselves under when they have a child who is ill with cancer. And

:05:15.:05:20.

e-mails to say the best help is having access to support helper who

:05:21.:05:25.

can fit in regular and supportive contact. Surely someone said we have

:05:26.:05:30.

to acknowledge that the stress -- acknowledge the stress and be there

:05:31.:05:34.

when it gets too hard. And e-mails coming through on the story about

:05:35.:05:41.

the new EU regulations on vacuum cleaners. Ray has even to say, the

:05:42.:05:45.

EU is going to have no say in our affairs after 2019, so why conform

:05:46.:05:50.

to their wins now? Do get in touch with us throughout the morning. If

:05:51.:05:55.

you text, remember you will be charged at the standard network

:05:56.:06:01.

rate. Lets see what is happening in the sport.

:06:02.:06:04.

Football transfer news first, and the final day was as much

:06:05.:06:07.

about the players who didn't move as those who did.

:06:08.:06:09.

The window closed last and night and there are some

:06:10.:06:12.

Premier League clubs spent ?1.4 billion over the summer -

:06:13.:06:17.

One player who didn't make it was Alexis Sanchez.

:06:18.:06:21.

His club Arsenal had agreed a ?60 million deal

:06:22.:06:23.

with Manchester City - contigent on finding a replacement.

:06:24.:06:29.

But Arsenal were turned down by Monaco's Thomas Lemar

:06:30.:06:32.

after a ?90 million bid, and so refused to let Sanchez go.

:06:33.:06:38.

Midfielder Danny Drinkwater did move late last night -

:06:39.:06:40.

he's gone from Leicester to Chelsea for ?35 million.

:06:41.:06:44.

That was after Everton's Ross Barkley changed his mind

:06:45.:06:46.

Well, among all the excitement of deadline day, we shouldn't forget

:06:47.:06:53.

that it's international week, with all the home nations

:06:54.:06:55.

involved in World Cup qualifiers this weekend.

:06:56.:07:00.

Last night England arrived at their camp in Malta ahead

:07:01.:07:02.

England manager Gareth Southgate says he knows who will take over

:07:03.:07:08.

from Wayne Rooney as captain, but feels it should not be

:07:09.:07:10.

We have focused too much on Wayne in particular in the last few years,

:07:11.:07:25.

and we have got to start building a more resilient group of leaders, and

:07:26.:07:28.

allowing people to take responsibility. So for me it's not

:07:29.:07:34.

the most important decision. The more important thing is trying to

:07:35.:07:39.

build the group into a stronger group that they react in the right

:07:40.:07:41.

way collectively. In the same group, Scotland badly

:07:42.:07:43.

need to win in Lithuania, They kick off tonight as well,

:07:44.:07:45.

four points off the play-off place, But their manager has

:07:46.:07:49.

confidence in his players. There is a psychology to it, the

:07:50.:08:11.

information you pass on, so it isn't going to be a Churchill speech that

:08:12.:08:14.

makes them feel any better, that can work now and then, but in general

:08:15.:08:19.

you make sure that the players are prepared and feel comfortable. The

:08:20.:08:21.

amount of training they put into it. And Northern Ireland need

:08:22.:08:23.

to avoid any mishaps tonight against San Marino for them

:08:24.:08:25.

to remain on course They're currently second in group C

:08:26.:08:28.

behind 2014 winners Germany. The world number one and two-time

:08:29.:08:34.

champion Rafael Nadal is through to the third

:08:35.:08:36.

round of the US Open overnight. He came through against

:08:37.:08:39.

Japan's Taro Daniel in four sets. Joining him there will be

:08:40.:08:42.

Roger Federer, who was pushed all the way for the second time

:08:43.:08:45.

in three days, this time It's the first time in his career

:08:46.:08:47.

he's played five set matches in the first two rounds of a Grand

:08:48.:08:53.

Slam. He'll face Spain's

:08:54.:08:57.

Feliciano Lopez next. That is all your sport for now. We

:08:58.:09:09.

will be back with more little later on.

:09:10.:09:09.

Thank you very much. From today many parents in England

:09:10.:09:13.

are entitled to 30 hours of free care for children that are three

:09:14.:09:16.

or four- which is double It depends on the parents

:09:17.:09:18.

meeting certain criteria. in work and not earning

:09:19.:09:32.

over ?100,000 a year. But there are a number

:09:33.:09:35.

of concerns with the system- with some parents complaining

:09:36.:09:37.

that the application process has not worked,

:09:38.:09:39.

and nurseries saying they are facing Let's talk to Neil Leitch, chief

:09:40.:09:41.

executive of the Preschool Learning Alliance, which represents 14,000

:09:42.:09:45.

members, and Karen Brain, a mum of three whose youngest daughter

:09:46.:09:48.

is eligible for the free childcare. And Karen, I just wonder whether you

:09:49.:10:00.

have gone through the application process, how has that been for you?

:10:01.:10:06.

It has been an absolute nightmare. Last week I was doing the process,

:10:07.:10:15.

only to be told that even if I did apply, because obviously I had to do

:10:16.:10:19.

it two weeks before commencing work, I actually commenced my new job at

:10:20.:10:24.

the beginning of September, the 11th, so I couldn't apply until this

:10:25.:10:28.

week. I was then advised that even by applying, the five weeks backlog,

:10:29.:10:34.

and I wouldn't get a code in time for my daughter to be eligible to go

:10:35.:10:39.

to nursery. So you were facing what you felt was just too much

:10:40.:10:46.

bureaucracy on this? That's correct. Far too much red tape. Because

:10:47.:10:50.

obviously I had secured my job, I was trying to apply online, to be

:10:51.:10:54.

told I couldn't apply until two weeks beforehand. Which then I was

:10:55.:11:02.

told that there was a five-week backlog, and even if I did apply

:11:03.:11:05.

before the 31st of August, I wouldn't actually get my code, so my

:11:06.:11:11.

daughter wouldn't have childcare. That means I am working for nothing.

:11:12.:11:15.

Which is obviously detrimental. I thought that the Government was

:11:16.:11:22.

trying to get people from benefits into work, and not put obstacles in

:11:23.:11:26.

their way. And all I feel is that that is what I have had. It is not

:11:27.:11:32.

until I have taken it to the media that I have actually had any

:11:33.:11:34.

response. And what response have you had? The media has been backing me

:11:35.:11:45.

up 100%. I joined a social media group, explained my situation that I

:11:46.:11:49.

was in a position where I either take the job and work for nothing,

:11:50.:12:00.

or if I did work, it would have a detrimental financial restraint on

:12:01.:12:06.

me, or I don't actually work at all. And I thought that the government

:12:07.:12:10.

was trying to help people back into employment, and I didn't realise

:12:11.:12:14.

there was so much red tape and bureaucracy. But the parents'

:12:15.:12:19.

perspective. Let's get the perspective of the childcare

:12:20.:12:25.

providers themselves and Neil. What seems to be happening is the need,

:12:26.:12:30.

the legal requirement to provide these extra hours, is causing some

:12:31.:12:36.

childcare providers to say they might actually have to close down?

:12:37.:12:40.

Absolutely. The first thing to say is there is no such thing as free

:12:41.:12:44.

childcare. At the moment, as you alluded to, every three and

:12:45.:12:48.

four-year-old is entitled to 15 hours of free childcare for 38 weeks

:12:49.:12:52.

of the year, but can be spread across the year. But the way that

:12:53.:12:56.

works for providers is they are able to cross subsidise it by those

:12:57.:13:00.

parents who take additional hours. So if you take 25 hours, 30 the

:13:01.:13:05.

moment, 15 hours of those will be at a slightly higher rate so that it

:13:06.:13:08.

will effectively fund the inadequate funding that comes from the

:13:09.:13:12.

government. If you remove the ability to do that, then you just

:13:13.:13:17.

exacerbate the problem. So providers are struggling even further now to

:13:18.:13:21.

be able to deliver this offer. I don't understand. The Government

:13:22.:13:24.

tells us we are giving an additional ?1 billion a year by 2019/20. They

:13:25.:13:33.

are making sure that 15,000 children will benefit from places. So they

:13:34.:13:38.

are doing their part? Let me just say first of all. More money doesn't

:13:39.:13:41.

necessarily mean enough money. Why not? Let's look at that ?1 billion.

:13:42.:13:47.

Five months before this policy basically came out, when Labour were

:13:48.:13:52.

contemplating offering ten hours of free childcare, so not ten hours,

:13:53.:13:57.

but 15 hours, the then minister, a Conservative minister, is on record

:13:58.:14:01.

giving evidence to the House of Lords affordable childcare

:14:02.:14:03.

committee, and he said, do you know how much this would cost? At least

:14:04.:14:08.

?1.5 billion. Now in my reckoning, if you then extend it to 15 hours

:14:09.:14:14.

instead of ten, that comes to ?2.25 billion, so by Government's own

:14:15.:14:18.

admission, surely there are investing less than 50% of what is

:14:19.:14:23.

required. So there is a shortfall. I received a letter from the chief

:14:24.:14:26.

executive of the early childhood council in New Zealand. This country

:14:27.:14:31.

always quits New Zealanders being a great exemplar. He said to me, a few

:14:32.:14:36.

years ago, we introduced 20 hours of free childcare. A couple of years

:14:37.:14:40.

later, the Government dropped the word free, and they dropped the word

:14:41.:14:43.

free because they realised they couldn't fund it. We are already at

:14:44.:14:48.

that position. But you do have examples of success stories. In

:14:49.:14:52.

Northumberland, all the providers in Northumberland signing up to deliver

:14:53.:14:57.

the 30 hours, so it is working? It doesn't mean it's working. Providers

:14:58.:15:02.

will sign up to this because they are petrified, frankly, that if they

:15:03.:15:05.

don't offer the 30 hours, that particular parent will go to

:15:06.:15:09.

somebody else. They will restrict the number of places that they

:15:10.:15:13.

offer. They will also have to charge additional extras for things like

:15:14.:15:17.

lunches and trips, and they will increase the prices to those parents

:15:18.:15:20.

who do not qualify for the additional 15 hours. That doesn't

:15:21.:15:25.

mean it is working. Karen, let's just come back to you. What is your

:15:26.:15:31.

solution, then? Are you going to have to make a choice between

:15:32.:15:35.

working and continuing down this path, or just deciding not to work?

:15:36.:15:39.

That's a decision I was thinking about last week. I was beside myself

:15:40.:15:46.

with worry and stress thinking what am I going to do? Luckily, with the

:15:47.:15:54.

help of the press and the media which has changed this 360 dedprees,

:15:55.:16:01.

from not being able to apply, this week I have been able to do an

:16:02.:16:05.

application over the phone, which has changed since last week. I have

:16:06.:16:10.

also demonstrated my urgency and it seems to have been saying that on

:16:11.:16:19.

the 31st, as long as you apply, you will be legible for your free 30

:16:20.:16:24.

hours and they will backlog. I am lucky because I think without the

:16:25.:16:29.

help of the media I wouldn't have been able to get the free child care

:16:30.:16:35.

as quickly as I did. I think I fast-tracked, which a lot of people

:16:36.:16:37.

probably wouldn't have been able to I am now in a position which has

:16:38.:16:46.

been confirmed this morning, that my child now has her free child care or

:16:47.:16:55.

nursery place. Thank you very much for joining us and explaining that

:16:56.:16:59.

and also thanks to you, Neil. We know from our evaluation that

:17:00.:17:20.

providers are committed to offering 30 hours and the additional hours

:17:21.:17:24.

are having a really positive impact on families taking huge pressure off

:17:25.:17:28.

families finances, that's the Government's opinion of all of this.

:17:29.:17:32.

You heard one parent's opinion of this.

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Breaking news now. Kenya's Supreme Court, you will remember in Kenya

:17:38.:17:41.

they held a general election recently. The Supreme Court has

:17:42.:17:46.

overturned the results of last month's presidential elections and

:17:47.:17:53.

has called for a new election within 60 days. Anne is in Nairobi for us.

:17:54.:17:59.

What sort of irregularities and what does this mean in an already

:18:00.:18:08.

troubled political environment? Well, the irregularities, there are

:18:09.:18:12.

wild celebrations around me, supporters of the opposition

:18:13.:18:16.

coalition, have come to town to celebrate this very unexpected

:18:17.:18:22.

judgment of the court. The chief justice said that the Electoral

:18:23.:18:25.

Commission failed to conduct the elections in accordance with the

:18:26.:18:29.

constitution and electoral laws and said that the irregularities and

:18:30.:18:34.

illegalities could not have given a credible result. Therefore, contrary

:18:35.:18:40.

to what international observers had said, they had said that the

:18:41.:18:44.

election was free, fair and credible, he said the irregularities

:18:45.:18:49.

and the ommissions that were committed could not amount to a

:18:50.:18:54.

credible election. Therefore, said that the presidential elections

:18:55.:18:57.

specifically was invalid, null and void and people will be going back

:18:58.:19:05.

to the ballot in another 60 days to elect a new President. This means is

:19:06.:19:09.

that parliament has already been sworn in so MPs have already been

:19:10.:19:14.

sworn in and the ruling party has a huge majority in both Houses of

:19:15.:19:18.

parliament, Senate and the National Assembly, so, it will be interesting

:19:19.:19:22.

to see what impact the presidential election is going to have on the

:19:23.:19:26.

other smaller elections, whether they're going to be challenged in

:19:27.:19:31.

court and using this as a strong precedent. The leader of the

:19:32.:19:35.

opposition says that the past elections that he has participated

:19:36.:19:38.

in, four of them, has been stolen from him. This is a welcome reprieve

:19:39.:19:42.

for his supporters, they are celebrating. Of course in another 60

:19:43.:19:48.

days they will know indeed if he is the more popular presidential

:19:49.:19:51.

candidate. A remarkable development there in

:19:52.:19:54.

Kenya. We will be following that here on BBC News throughout the day

:19:55.:19:57.

I am sure. For now, from Nairobi, thank you very much.

:19:58.:20:04.

Still to come: How clean will your house be after the EU bans the sale

:20:05.:20:16.

of powerful vacuum cleaners? The story of little Alan Kurdi who

:20:17.:20:20.

dlouned after fleeing Syria shocked the world. You might find the image

:20:21.:20:23.

distressing especially if you are watching with children, lying face

:20:24.:20:26.

down in the sand, the picture of Alan drew the world's attention to

:20:27.:20:32.

the deadly migrant crossings. The image shows a Turkish police officer

:20:33.:20:35.

carrying the tiny body of the young boy away. Alan's brother and mother

:20:36.:20:42.

also lost their lives that day. Only his father Abdullah survived. On the

:20:43.:20:49.

Eve of this second anniversary Tima, Alan's aunt, has been speaking

:20:50.:20:52.

exclusively to us and has been telling us how she's marking the

:20:53.:21:06.

anniversary of their deaths. There is a refugee camp there, and for my

:21:07.:21:14.

brother Abdullah, I can't explain, he will never heal completely. But

:21:15.:21:20.

every time he goes to the refugee camp and talks to them it gives him

:21:21.:21:26.

hope and he always look at it as I am going to be the person who can be

:21:27.:21:34.

the force of those children and give them what I can give them or what he

:21:35.:21:44.

couldn't do for his own children. From Canada, I decided to open the

:21:45.:21:53.

Kurdi foundation and it's fairly new, we don't have a charity number

:21:54.:22:04.

yet. We need to wait. But people can donate. Hopefully we are going to

:22:05.:22:10.

make it. Alan, the boy on the beach, will never be forgotten. That's an

:22:11.:22:14.

amazing thing to be doing after you have suffered so much heartache and

:22:15.:22:18.

grief. You mentioned your brother who clearly isn't coping at all

:22:19.:22:28.

well. No, I cannot explain it. Just imagine losing your whole family,

:22:29.:22:35.

not just one, two kids and his wife. It's not easy. But I keep

:22:36.:22:43.

encouraging him. I keep reminding him that maybe God wants him to do

:22:44.:22:49.

something and by opening the Kurdi foundation to help those innocent

:22:50.:22:56.

children who have nothing to do in this world, expect to have a good

:22:57.:23:15.

life, so I give him hope. Emotionally it's not easy for him.

:23:16.:23:21.

It's up and down. It's been two years. Emotionally, the pain, and he

:23:22.:23:31.

is not the only one, there are thousands of families like my

:23:32.:23:38.

brother. They have the same thing. We see this every day. It's

:23:39.:23:43.

happening and it's sad, it's sad to see the world, we are just sitting

:23:44.:23:49.

and watching and not doing enough. Clearly still very affected, of

:23:50.:23:52.

course. You can see the full interview on our programme page.

:23:53.:24:03.

Last night the summer of madness came to an end. The total summer

:24:04.:24:12.

spending by Premier League clubs came to ?1. 4 billion. It beat the

:24:13.:24:16.

previous highest figure of ?1. 1 billion. The transfer window opened

:24:17.:24:21.

earlier in the summer and it's the only time that clubs can make

:24:22.:24:25.

permanent signings until the next opportunity in January. In that

:24:26.:24:31.

period there's been a load of wheeling and dealing, clubs gazumped

:24:32.:24:36.

and players and agents becoming even richer. Let's look at some

:24:37.:24:37.

eye-watering deals. Lukaku moved from Everton to

:24:38.:24:57.

Manchester United for ?75 million. Morata moved for ?60 million. When

:24:58.:25:20.

asked why he shaved his head he said it's so children with cancer can

:25:21.:25:23.

have the same haircut as him. Is it time to acknowledge TV and

:25:24.:25:38.

broadcasting rights and money powering into the game is good for

:25:39.:25:40.

football and supporters? Let's talk now to Rachel Anderson

:25:41.:25:44.

MBE, who's had a long career as a football agent and Alison Bender,

:25:45.:25:47.

who's a football presenter. She was touring the

:25:48.:25:49.

stadiums of London until Rachel, I saw you putting your hands

:25:50.:26:01.

in the air, at frustration or joy? Thrilled. It makes the world go

:26:02.:26:05.

around. It's so much money. It's not really. We spend billions on arms.

:26:06.:26:12.

Compared to that, it's nothing. And this is a massive entertainment

:26:13.:26:14.

industry. Without question. Tell me when we are talking about ?60

:26:15.:26:17.

million for the sale of a player where does that money go? Well, it

:26:18.:26:22.

will go from the selling club to the buying club. Plus there will be

:26:23.:26:27.

other clubs behind he has previously been with and they will get a divvy

:26:28.:26:32.

up, the FA gets some, the agent might get a pound or two. The

:26:33.:26:36.

selling club doesn't get the full 60. Not normally. There's normally,

:26:37.:26:41.

you have to take monies out of it. You have to take commissions out of

:26:42.:26:45.

it, you have to take taxes out of it, you have to take, for example,

:26:46.:26:49.

if the player had been with another club for two or three years before

:26:50.:26:55.

and a decent club, they would be having a bonus, a substantial bonus

:26:56.:26:58.

out of ?60 million. It's a ridiculous amount of money, though,

:26:59.:27:06.

it has to be said. For the last six summers, each summer it has

:27:07.:27:11.

surpassed itself, this broke the record nine days before the window

:27:12.:27:17.

closed. Neymar is too much? 200 million man, these inflated figures

:27:18.:27:19.

sound ridiculous but every year it happens. Obviously, the Premier

:27:20.:27:24.

League rights money has a lot to do with the big spending. Look, he can

:27:25.:27:28.

head a ball. There he goes, look, that's great! He is one of the best

:27:29.:27:36.

in world football. Roy Keane joked recently, if David Beckham was still

:27:37.:27:39.

playing he would be ?1 billion. It's ridiculous. But we do see these

:27:40.:27:43.

figures going up and up every season. It's a package. It's not

:27:44.:27:47.

just the football. People forget how much money is made out of the

:27:48.:27:51.

merchandising and it's not just the fact that he is an incredible

:27:52.:27:56.

footballer. He also will bring in a large sum of money from sponsors and

:27:57.:28:00.

merchandising all over the world. You were at the stadium last night,

:28:01.:28:08.

what were fans making of it? I was at Chelsea and Wembley and ended up

:28:09.:28:11.

at the Emirates, there was frustration there from fans. They

:28:12.:28:16.

started thinking we are going to get good money for Sanchez, this is

:28:17.:28:19.

going to come back into the club. We are going to get Lemar, we are

:28:20.:28:24.

excited. As the evening went on, they realised that the deal was

:28:25.:28:28.

falling through. They said it's the same old story. It's Groundhog Day,

:28:29.:28:33.

they were starting to get frustrated with the manager, as well. It's this

:28:34.:28:39.

whole almost domino effect. You get one, and the next, if you don't get

:28:40.:28:43.

the first, you don't get the next. It's like buying a house, you have a

:28:44.:28:48.

chain. Sometimes it can be five, six players long. That's why some of

:28:49.:28:53.

them end up coming right to the end day. We focus on the highest paid.

:28:54.:29:01.

Presumably lower down there are more average footballers still getting a

:29:02.:29:06.

lot of money. Who suddenly have had to uproot their families and move to

:29:07.:29:09.

another club because at the last minute they've been shifted

:29:10.:29:13.

somewhere else. Does that happen? It can happen. But there are financial

:29:14.:29:18.

benefits by moving as well. Sure. Nobody goes without being

:29:19.:29:24.

compensated in some way. What it's done, these Crazy Prices, it has

:29:25.:29:29.

helped the lower leagues, as well, because money does trickle down. To

:29:30.:29:35.

some extent. Not as much as it should, but it does trickle down. It

:29:36.:29:40.

keeps the whole industry going. And getting bigger and until people stop

:29:41.:29:43.

not wanting to be involved or watch football, it will continue. OK. Here

:29:44.:29:47.

is a question, there is all this money there and all this money

:29:48.:29:53.

through TV rights and etc, etc, wouldn't it make a lot of sense to

:29:54.:29:59.

reduce ticket prices a little bit so that more people could afford to go

:30:00.:30:06.

to see these incredibly well paid football stars?

:30:07.:30:11.

There has certainly been calls for that, and they have these schemes

:30:12.:30:17.

like 20th plenty, but it is supply and demand, so many people want to

:30:18.:30:21.

go, they could charge even more, and it is a shame, because it is pricing

:30:22.:30:26.

out real football fans who perhaps don't earn these ridiculous

:30:27.:30:30.

salaries. Neymar can earn an average yearly salary in seven minutes, so

:30:31.:30:34.

in the time we have been chatting here, basically. But it doesn't

:30:35.:30:37.

release apprise me any more to be honest, and the other thing about

:30:38.:30:40.

last night is the deals that didn't happen. So many were set to happen

:30:41.:30:44.

and could still happen today, because the European window closes

:30:45.:30:51.

today, so Diego Costa could still leave Chelsea and Philippe Coutinho

:30:52.:30:54.

could still leave Liverpool. It has always been the way, it is just we

:30:55.:30:57.

know about it now. Thank you both very much for coming in. Still to

:30:58.:31:02.

come: The sale of powerful vacuum cleaners is being banned. TV

:31:03.:31:08.

presenter Aggie Mackenzie is going to join us to tell us how clean your

:31:09.:31:12.

house will be. The royal air force becomes the first branch of the

:31:13.:31:15.

British military to open up every role to men and women.

:31:16.:31:17.

We'll be speaking to the regiment's commander to talk

:31:18.:31:19.

With the news here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom.

:31:20.:31:26.

Kenya's Supreme Court has nullified the result of the country's

:31:27.:31:37.

presidential election. Judges said there were irregularities that harm

:31:38.:31:40.

to the vote's integrity, and ruled that another election must be held

:31:41.:31:45.

within 60 days. The result, which saw the incumbent Kenyatta return to

:31:46.:31:47.

power was challenged by the main opposition alliance, which argued it

:31:48.:31:54.

was for Gelant. For the first time, in the history of African

:31:55.:31:58.

democratisation, a ruling has been made by a court nullifying irregular

:31:59.:32:08.

elections of a president. This is a precedent-setting ruling, very

:32:09.:32:15.

historical. I would like to take the opportunity to thank the Supreme

:32:16.:32:22.

Court judges led by the Chief Justice for doing this for posterity

:32:23.:32:23.

for the people of Kenya. The private sector security company

:32:24.:32:30.

G4S has suspended nine members Due to allegations of abuse and

:32:31.:32:40.

misconduct at a detention centre near Gatwick.

:32:41.:32:45.

A Panorama investigation to be broadcast on Monday allegedly shows

:32:46.:32:47.

some staff mocking, abusing and showing some violence towards

:32:48.:32:49.

G4S has said there was "no place for the type of conduct described

:32:50.:32:54.

in the allegations" and that it would "continue to focus on the care

:32:55.:32:57.

The Trade Secretary Liam Fox has said the UK must not allow

:32:58.:33:04.

itself to be blackmailed by the European Union over

:33:05.:33:06.

become impatient with the slow progress of the Brexit

:33:07.:33:13.

But the EU insist that the discussions on this must be finished

:33:14.:33:23.

before trade talks can begin. The RAF is now the first branch

:33:24.:33:25.

of the British military to open From today, they can apply

:33:26.:33:28.

to join the RAF Regiment, a front line combat force whose main

:33:29.:33:32.

task is to patrol and The Defence Secretary,

:33:33.:33:35.

Sir Michael Fallon, has described the move -

:33:36.:33:38.

which is a year ahead of schedule - Hundreds of thousands of people

:33:39.:33:41.

in Birmingham could see piles of rubbish mounting in the streets

:33:42.:33:48.

again as bin-workers resume strike Last month industrial action

:33:49.:33:50.

was suspended to allow talks between the council and unions -

:33:51.:33:54.

but the strike is back on again after the council

:33:55.:33:56.

said it was issuing Join me for BBC Newsroom

:33:57.:33:58.

live at 11 o'clock. Thank you, Annita. The football

:33:59.:34:06.

pitch was gone, but the sport hasn't. Here's Hugh. Hello again.

:34:07.:34:12.

Plenty of action on the final day of the transfer window.

:34:13.:34:14.

One move that didn't happen Arsenal refused to sell Alexis Sanchez

:34:15.:34:18.

to Manchester City after agreeing a ?60 million fee.

:34:19.:34:21.

They wanted a replacement in first but Monaco's Thomas Lemar turned

:34:22.:34:24.

down the chance of a ?90 million move to the Emirates.

:34:25.:34:26.

One player who is on his way to London though, is England

:34:27.:34:29.

He'll join Premier League champions Chelsea from Leicester City

:34:30.:34:32.

Away from football, the great Roger Federer needed five sets

:34:33.:34:36.

to beat Russia's Mikhail Youzhny as he moved into the third

:34:37.:34:39.

round of the US Open at Flushing Meadows.

:34:40.:34:41.

Another former champion - Rafa Nadal - is also through.

:34:42.:34:43.

And Britain's Chris Froome is still the man to beat

:34:44.:34:45.

in the Vuelta a Espana, but a crash and some

:34:46.:34:48.

technical difficulties means his lead was been trimmed

:34:49.:34:50.

Just quickly, first practice ahead of this weekend's Italian Grand Prix

:34:51.:35:04.

has distended, good start the Lewis Hamilton, he is fastest so far. I

:35:05.:35:09.

will be back with more in Newsroom Live after 11.

:35:10.:35:14.

I can't believe we are about to do this!

:35:15.:35:21.

From today, vacuum cleaners using more than 900 watts

:35:22.:35:23.

and emitting more than 80 decibels will be banned when stocks run out

:35:24.:35:26.

Anti-EU campaigners and cleaning addicts argue that the less powerful

:35:27.:35:30.

models just don't clean as well - is that true?

:35:31.:35:33.

We are joined by our environment expert, Roger Howard in, who will

:35:34.:35:41.

tell us if we can get things just as clean with newer, less powerful

:35:42.:35:51.

models -- Roger Harrabin, and by Aggie Mackenzie from How Clean Is

:35:52.:36:00.

Your House? Roger, give us the background on this. The EU has to

:36:01.:36:04.

cut emissions of carbon dioxide and keep prices down for consumers, so

:36:05.:36:10.

part of that is forcing manufacturers to make appliances

:36:11.:36:13.

that do the same job as the old appliances, but with less energy. So

:36:14.:36:19.

when all these policy started to be introduced, energy bills have

:36:20.:36:22.

actually gone down, because of the extra energy efficiency, even though

:36:23.:36:26.

the actual cost of energy has gone up, the bills are less because we

:36:27.:36:31.

are using less of it. And it is not just vacuum cleaners, it has been

:36:32.:36:34.

happening with fridges, washing machines... Yes, all appliances

:36:35.:36:40.

except toasters, because there was around before the Brexit vote, and

:36:41.:36:44.

civil servants ministers must have had a word with somebody in

:36:45.:36:47.

Brussels, because the toasters legislation was held back because it

:36:48.:36:51.

was thought to be too controversial with those evil Europeans who were

:36:52.:36:54.

now even going to control our toasters.

:36:55.:36:57.

And I remember talking to somebody in a department store about this who

:36:58.:37:00.

manages the department store who pointed out that, we're talking

:37:01.:37:05.

about these labels, the energy efficiency labels, you get a letter,

:37:06.:37:12.

but now you get a plus, because it really has propelled the industry in

:37:13.:37:15.

a different direction to get more and more energy efficient. It

:37:16.:37:20.

absolutely has, we are talking about engineering here, forcing people to

:37:21.:37:25.

do better engineering, and the idea is that ultimately, consumers will

:37:26.:37:29.

benefit, we will have to lay fewer electricity cables, generate less

:37:30.:37:35.

electricity, have a few fewer carbon emissions. Look what they have done

:37:36.:37:42.

to our carpet! Who has done that? Not very clean at all. We need to

:37:43.:37:46.

get a vacuum cleaner. Roger, maybe. So, let's see, I am going to have a

:37:47.:37:55.

go here. What wattage is yours? I have no idea.

:37:56.:38:08.

Bit rubbish, isn't it? What is your verdict on that one? I give it two

:38:09.:38:18.

out of ten. This is an old one. What does 180 a what's mean? I have no

:38:19.:38:24.

idea. This uses a lot of electricity? The number of wattage

:38:25.:38:30.

in a vacuum cleaner, the higher the wattage is no indicator of how

:38:31.:38:34.

efficient it will be. It just gives an indication of how much

:38:35.:38:39.

electricity is being used. What is important is the airflow and the

:38:40.:38:43.

suction power, and for years, manufacturers have known this was

:38:44.:38:46.

coming, so they will have been working on technology and design in

:38:47.:38:50.

order to make vacuum cleaners more efficient for the future. Does yours

:38:51.:38:53.

work, Roger? Let's give it a go. That is nice and quiet. The other

:38:54.:39:05.

thing is the decibel Spain, I would say that is vast to superior. That

:39:06.:39:09.

is very interesting, because technically this should be less

:39:10.:39:14.

efficient because there is more space for the dust to travel than

:39:15.:39:18.

this one. Normally uprights are more efficient than cylinders. This is

:39:19.:39:26.

another old one, so that probably wouldn't be sold any more under the

:39:27.:39:32.

new legislation. The wattage is the key thing. 1200 watts. So this would

:39:33.:39:45.

be banned. And what is that the one down there? This is my hand-held at

:39:46.:39:52.

home. I do like a cordless vacuum cleaner, particularly one to use on

:39:53.:39:55.

the floor. The great thing about a cordless is you have only got a

:39:56.:39:58.

certain amount of battery time, see you need to do your job really

:39:59.:40:01.

quickly, and when the battery runs out, you can't do any more

:40:02.:40:06.

vacuuming, can you? Is this one of the new ones? It is about two years

:40:07.:40:11.

old, and it fits the new criteria. Let's see how it works.

:40:12.:40:26.

I think you are going to be there for ever! I use it for the sofa at

:40:27.:40:37.

home. It is tiny, but I would say that that was just as good as that.

:40:38.:40:44.

It has get a smaller area... Interestingly, it is alleged, and I

:40:45.:40:48.

don't know if this is true or not, but some rather unscrupulous

:40:49.:40:49.

manufacturers have been bringing appliances into the UK and making

:40:50.:40:56.

them very high wattage, because people think oh, 1500 watts, that is

:40:57.:41:01.

powerful, but it has as you said, it has no relationship at all with the

:41:02.:41:04.

amount of suction. How do you choose a good vacuum cleaner, then? First

:41:05.:41:09.

of all, are these changes to the rules, I think the conclusion is

:41:10.:41:13.

that they don't necessarily mean that we are going to have dirtier

:41:14.:41:18.

homes? Absolutely not, and in terms of a clean home, get everyone to

:41:19.:41:21.

take their shoes off before they come in. That is the number one

:41:22.:41:27.

rule. Go to the consumer magazines and look at the section that says

:41:28.:41:33.

airflow and pick-up efficiency. That is what you want at the end of the

:41:34.:41:37.

day, how well it picks up. Fantastic. I don't know what we are

:41:38.:41:44.

going to do about that mass! So far it is only been the woman on her

:41:45.:41:47.

hands and knees, I think you should do that to prove that a quality is

:41:48.:41:54.

alive and well in the BBC! After 11 o'clock, I will! I can't believe I

:41:55.:41:57.

have just used a hoover on air, my mother would be very, very proud

:41:58.:41:59.

indeed. Now, the Royal Air Force has become

:42:00.:42:02.

the first branch of the British military to open up every role

:42:03.:42:06.

to both men and women. From today it will accept

:42:07.:42:08.

applications from women to join the RAF Regiment -

:42:09.:42:10.

its ground-fighting force. The move follows a decision last

:42:11.:42:12.

year to lift the ban on females Let's talk to Air Commodore Frank

:42:13.:42:15.

Clifford, who is the head of the RAF Regiment

:42:16.:42:23.

and Group Captain Wendy Rothery Head of RAF Recruiting and Selection -

:42:24.:42:26.

a woman already working in the RAF. thank you both very much for coming

:42:27.:42:40.

in. How major step is this? The Defence Secretary said it is a

:42:41.:42:43.

defining moment for the royal air force as we approach our centenary

:42:44.:42:48.

next year. All roles are open to everyone regardless of gender,

:42:49.:42:51.

ethnicity and sexual orientation, so it is a big day. Franklin said, how

:42:52.:42:57.

long have you been in the military? I have been in the military and the

:42:58.:43:00.

RAF Regiment for 34 years. And if you think back to 34 years ago,

:43:01.:43:05.

could you imagine a step like this? 34 years ago, the day I joined, no,

:43:06.:43:09.

but a lot has changed in society and a lot has changed in the military.

:43:10.:43:15.

When I joined there were no female pilots, no females serving aboard

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ships in the Royal Navy. Society has changed, the world has changed, and

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likewise the air force representing the society that we serve is

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adapting unchanging to meet the service and the people. Has there

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been a fight to get to this stage within the military? My

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stereotypical view, it may be as this is unfair, but my stereotypical

:43:36.:43:38.

view is that the military is a relatively conservative with a small

:43:39.:43:47.

C part of society. I wouldn't say a struggle so much, but we need to

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make sure we operate safely and effectively, and there has been some

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research, a lot of research into the medical risks encountered by women,

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so we need to make sure that we can mitigate those as far as possible.

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Tell us specifically what sort of things you are talking about there?

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It is physiologically proven that women have a higher incidence of

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musculoskeletal injuries, so damaged ligaments, and joining the RAF

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Regiment is quite physically demanding, so we have had to ensure

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that we have looked at the medical research to make sure that we are

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going to mitigate that risk as far as possible. So that then has a

:44:30.:44:34.

knock-on impact to a small extent, but a knock-on impact to how the

:44:35.:44:39.

medical officials and others work, the sort of things that women are

:44:40.:44:43.

asked to do? Is it the way in which... ? The standard is the

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standard, so women will need to demonstrate the ability to operate

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at the same level as the men, so it is gender free. The whole aim of

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this is to make it absolutely inclusive, it is a gender free

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activity, the females and males undertake at the same level. Is

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there still some resistance? There will be still some resistance in

:45:10.:45:13.

society, you said that the military mirrors society. What do you say and

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perhaps do to those men who are on these bases who are going to be

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protected now by women as well as men, what do you say to them, those

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who are concerned about this and say, a woman is not going to be able

:45:29.:45:30.

to do the job? I would disgree. What can you do if

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people harbour those points? It's leadership for those voids and

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leading those individuals, making sure third who has changed, why it

:45:45.:45:47.

is changing and also the proof of the concept, make it work, make it

:45:48.:45:51.

work for the Royal Air Force and the defence. So, yes, we are the first

:45:52.:45:55.

to do this. I am proud that we are the first to be doing this within

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the Armed Forces. Let's make it work. Lean behind this and get it

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going properly. One of the reasons you are here today and one of the

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reasons you are talking about this is to publicise the fact you want

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more women to apply. We do. How do you go about doing that? This is

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obviously a step forward and may be women watching at the moment who say

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I didn't know I could and I will apply. Yet that is also something

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that society itself will have to get over the fact women are being

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specifically asked to apply for jobs like this. The RAF has more than 50

:46:25.:46:32.

career options available. Women form about 14% at the moment of our

:46:33.:46:37.

overall force, which may sound low given that women are about 50% of

:46:38.:46:43.

the population, so we are keen to increase that. And opening up RAF

:46:44.:46:47.

Regiment roles mean that women can now apply to do any of the roles

:46:48.:46:56.

that we offer. We are very excited about opening up to a broader pool

:46:57.:46:59.

of talent. Do you have targets you have set in terms of the numbers you

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wish to recruit, the sort of gender balance you wish to get to? Yes, we

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do in terms of our intake, our recruiting numbers, we are steadily

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increasing the number of women we are bringing into the service. We

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have set ourselves a target of 20% by 2020. It's a stretch target, the

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others services are looking at 15%. We are already more than 15% in

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intake. As a woman in the military, how would you characterise the

:47:29.:47:31.

change in attitudes towards women in the military over the years? I think

:47:32.:47:36.

it's been a very positive move. It's not an issue for the youngsters who

:47:37.:47:41.

are joining the air force, they fully embrace diversity in a way

:47:42.:47:48.

previous generations didn't. We now have women in very senior roles,

:47:49.:47:55.

board level, I think young women can see the career opportunities do

:47:56.:47:59.

exist and they can get to the top of the organisation. All right. Thank

:48:00.:48:06.

you both very much for coming in. We have had some comments coming in

:48:07.:48:12.

on the vacuum cleaners. Why don't we ignore the ban and pay the fine like

:48:13.:48:17.

other EU countries? That's one way of dealing with this. Frank says,

:48:18.:48:21.

it's interesting to see the new ruling, worse than that is the noise

:48:22.:48:27.

from garden blowers which carry on constantly where he lives.

:48:28.:48:30.

Presumably you would like the European Commission to tell us to

:48:31.:48:35.

cut down on the noise from garden blowers. Andrew says that the EU is

:48:36.:48:44.

banning powerful cleaners, really it's banning inefficient cleaners.

:48:45.:48:50.

Peter e-mailed to say I do not understand what the Little England

:48:51.:48:56.

Brexiteers have against saving money and helping the planet. And an

:48:57.:49:01.

e-mail, the EU is looking to the forward where energy is at a

:49:02.:49:02.

premium. There you go. You only have to think back just

:49:03.:49:08.

a few years ago and you'd be amazed how far we've come in the world

:49:09.:49:12.

of technology but what will the technological advances

:49:13.:49:15.

of the future be like, and just how will they

:49:16.:49:16.

impact on our lives? A new programme on BBC Three

:49:17.:49:19.

explores how robots are being developed to engage with us

:49:20.:49:22.

on an emotional level, whether it be in the therapy room,

:49:23.:49:24.

stop us from being lonely We'll be speaking to two people

:49:25.:49:28.

who appear in the programme in a moment, but first

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let's take a quick look. Rachel's anxiety has affected her

:49:36.:49:45.

life for almost three years. She's been avoiding everything from trains

:49:46.:49:49.

to lifts and unfortunately for me today's session is on the 7th floor.

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Hope you don't mind me sitting here. She won't be able to see you soon.

:49:58.:50:02.

The virtual reality experience feels real for people. It's totally

:50:03.:50:06.

immersive. If you take someone into a situation they've been avoiding

:50:07.:50:09.

even in their imagination for a long period of time they get that strong

:50:10.:50:14.

emotional reaction in that situation. I am quickly going to

:50:15.:50:21.

take you to a relaxing environment. Michael will be guiding Rachel with

:50:22.:50:25.

traditional therapy methods while she is immersed in the virtual

:50:26.:50:34.

environment. Once relaxed the game will take over, sending her into a

:50:35.:50:38.

replica setting of an underground tube.

:50:39.:50:41.

It's going to take you straight there. Don't be disorientated. How

:50:42.:50:46.

does it feel as you walk? We can speak now to James Young,

:50:47.:50:55.

who is the presenter of Can Robots Love Us,

:50:56.:50:58.

and Rochelle Blisson, Explain why you were using that

:50:59.:51:06.

virtual reality and how it helped? So, I have an anxiety condition and

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it's linked to a fear of being trapped. A lot of people confuse

:51:12.:51:18.

that with claustrophobia. A couple of years ago I was trapped on a tube

:51:19.:51:23.

for a brief time. I had a massive anxiety attack and since then I have

:51:24.:51:30.

pretty much been avoiding everything, public transport, lifts,

:51:31.:51:33.

even crowds and new buildings, all sorts of things that make me feel

:51:34.:51:38.

trapped. When I had the chance to appear on this documentary and try

:51:39.:51:43.

this new therapy, I have tried a lot of different therapies and different

:51:44.:51:48.

techniques to cope with my anxiety, so I thought why not, let's give it

:51:49.:51:53.

a try, it's something different. You put on the headset. Yeah. What were

:51:54.:51:58.

you looking at? So, it does feel like you are in a game at first and

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you are looking in this virtual environment, you have headphones on,

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as well, they have background noise, especially in the tube scenario. It

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had crowd noise and sound of trains coming and after a while you feel

:52:15.:52:17.

like you are actually on a tube platform and you are going to go on

:52:18.:52:22.

a tube train and you start to feel anxious and you get that feeling and

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it becomes more realistic you forget you have a headset on and headphones

:52:28.:52:34.

on. It helped? Massively. In the first session as you can see when

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you watch the documentary, I get in a lift the very same day, maybe an

:52:40.:52:43.

hour after I started. That you couldn't do before? No, I had been

:52:44.:52:47.

avoiding them for years, I don't think I had been on a tube for about

:52:48.:52:51.

three years. Yeah, within three sessions. Did you come here on the

:52:52.:52:57.

tube? I didn't today, I ghetto in the lift, though, and I have been

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getting on tubes since. Slowly but surely, it's not a miracle cure, I

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don't think there is one out there, it's been the most successful

:53:06.:53:08.

therapy I have ever tried. James, you are the presenter. Of course

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your arm is the obvious thing here. Is this a robotic arm? It kind of

:53:14.:53:22.

is. It's an exploration into personal identity and expressing

:53:23.:53:24.

myself through my missing limb basically. It's an alternative limb.

:53:25.:53:30.

And how has it helped you, or has it helped you, I presume it has? It's

:53:31.:53:36.

kind of, it's made me interested in exploring the relationship between

:53:37.:53:40.

humans and technology and it's led towards this programme in trying to

:53:41.:53:43.

discover whether technology can engage with us in more human ways

:53:44.:53:46.

and maybe more positively affect our lives than at the moment. Can it,

:53:47.:53:52.

because it obviously doesn't look particularly human, can technology

:53:53.:53:58.

help us in that way? I think, if you think about it, it's kind of

:53:59.:54:03.

technology is created by human beings, it's the one thing that

:54:04.:54:08.

differentiates us from other animals, we use tools and different

:54:09.:54:12.

parts of technology and we discover qualities about the world,

:54:13.:54:15.

properties about the world, so it's kind of, it is a very human thing to

:54:16.:54:20.

be doing and it's kind of, I see in the future us engaging more with

:54:21.:54:23.

technology when it comes to our bodies, especially when it comes to

:54:24.:54:26.

probably our recovery and health. I understand when you move your

:54:27.:54:29.

fingers it affects the muscles in your chest, can you tell us about

:54:30.:54:34.

that. Yeah, last year in November I had surgery that basically, instead

:54:35.:54:37.

of the nerves not going anywhere that used to go to my left arm,

:54:38.:54:42.

they've been chopped basically and moved to different points around my

:54:43.:54:46.

chest and they're currently rehabilitating, growing into target

:54:47.:54:49.

areas of the muscles. Now when I think about doing different things

:54:50.:54:53.

with my left hand it activates muscles around my chest. Those

:54:54.:54:57.

things can be picked up in the future and fed into a bionic arm

:54:58.:55:01.

which is not happening with this one. In the future you think they

:55:02.:55:07.

could use those muscles in a bionic arm and the brain would be able to

:55:08.:55:12.

communicate with them? Essentially, because the computer of the arm

:55:13.:55:15.

would pick up what I am intending to do. My intentions, it's completely

:55:16.:55:23.

natural, I am doing the same thing I would be, my brain's doing the same

:55:24.:55:28.

thing as if I was thinking about moving my right arm. Tell us about

:55:29.:55:33.

some of the other people you met in the programme. There's some really

:55:34.:55:38.

interesting stuff in there. We have a variety of different technological

:55:39.:55:43.

feats. Some of them not suitable for breakfast, if you want to check it

:55:44.:55:49.

out, it's on BBC Three. It has a mixed arrangement. There is one

:55:50.:55:54.

which is similar to Rochelle experience, it's a mental health AI,

:55:55.:55:58.

you can speak to instead of a human being, maybe as well as a human

:55:59.:56:03.

being, but it helps you talk - you talk to a computer, but it kind of

:56:04.:56:08.

with that opportunity people tend to open up more and give more

:56:09.:56:12.

information and that, AI can measure responses and give you help

:56:13.:56:16.

accordingly and it's really interesting. Rochelle, obviously,

:56:17.:56:23.

you rediscovered the old world through technology. Were you

:56:24.:56:27.

surprised about that? I was really surprised. I have not really tried

:56:28.:56:36.

virtual reality before and I am not a massive tecchie, I am probably not

:56:37.:56:39.

as interested as you are, it shocked me. In the documentary I burst into

:56:40.:56:45.

tears after the first session because it worked so well and then I

:56:46.:56:50.

got in the lift and within three sessions the therapist actually went

:56:51.:56:55.

right, let's go on a tube and having avoided them for three years, to get

:56:56.:57:01.

that kind of reaction so quickly is something I never experienced before

:57:02.:57:04.

and I was so shocked but really pleased. James, you mentioned this

:57:05.:57:09.

is a family show and it is, so let's not go too far on this, but in the

:57:10.:57:15.

introduction we said there could be romantic involvement between a human

:57:16.:57:20.

being and a robot. Do you really believe that? Well, it seems

:57:21.:57:28.

apparent that some people love technology in its current state and

:57:29.:57:32.

so we have the difficult scenario where people are trying to create

:57:33.:57:37.

things that are in human form and essentially they're taking that form

:57:38.:57:43.

and people automatically imbu them with qualities, even if you talk to

:57:44.:57:48.

something like Sira or Alexia, you build up a thought about their

:57:49.:57:52.

personality, or she's not listening to me, or whatever, it's kind of, I

:57:53.:57:59.

think people naturally imbu - with technology becoming more complex

:58:00.:58:02.

that relationship is going to become more complex. We are already on that

:58:03.:58:08.

road it would seem. Thank you both very much for coming in. We have had

:58:09.:58:13.

a comment on that military story. David, as always the RAF are ahead

:58:14.:58:19.

of the game, well done. BBC news room live is up next. Thank you for

:58:20.:58:23.

your company today. Have a good day. Goodbye.

:58:24.:58:32.

You need to talk to the guy at Silk 41.

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