04/09/2017 Victoria Derbyshire


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Hello. It's Monday, it's 9 o'clock.

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The United States says it is ready to use its nuclear capabilities to

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defend itself and its allies against threats from North Korea.

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TRANSLATION: The test of a hydrogen bomb designed to be mounted on or

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Intercontinental ballistic missile was a success. Any threat to our

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territories, or our allies will be met with a military response.

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There are signs this morning that North Korea is preparing for more

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ballistic missile launches in wake of that nuclear test.

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We'll bring you reaction throughout the programme.

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The murky world of illegal Facebook raffles. She took money for a raffle

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and didn't put my numbers on its raffle and when it was queried then

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they started with the nastiness. The page wasn't there anymore and I

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tried to inbox the girl and she blocked me.

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We've discovered that a gun, a monkey and a pregnant spaniel

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Watch our exclusive investigation in around 15 minutes time.

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We will talk to the model fired after saying that all white people

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benefit from racism. Hello and welcome to the programme.

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We're live until 11am. We will bring you the latest

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breaking news and developing stories. Get in touch in the usual

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ways. I would love to know your advice

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for Coleen Rooney this morning - she's reportedly having crisis talks

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with him after his drink-driving arrest when he was in a car

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with another woman. Perhaps you've been

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in that situation. Use the hashtag Victoria Live

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and If you text, you will be charged President Trump has warned

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the United States is ready to use its nuclear capabilities

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in defending itself, and its allies, His comments come as the United

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Nations prepares for an emergency session to discuss the regime's

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claims of a successful nuclear South Korea staged a live fire

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missile exercise. The military said it was designed to show the south's

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capability. After the North exploded a nuclear

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device below ground, A series of missile

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launches above ground. The military said they hit

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their target in the East It was designed to replicate

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an attack on North Korea's Across the border over the weekend,

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this was how North Koreans heard about the "perfect success"

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that was their nation's sixth It was more powerful than any before

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and came with claims that Kim Jong-un now has the ability

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to order a nuclear strike A few hours later, in Washington,

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having briefed the President, the US Secretary of Defence gave

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this very stark warning. Any threat to the United States

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or its territories including Guam or our allies will be met

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with a massive military response, a response both

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effective and overwhelming. China has a crucial

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role to play in this. Hosting a handful of world

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leaders at a summit, President Xi Jinping urged restraint

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on all sides. The leaders of China and Russia

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promised to deal appropriately This was a show of strength from

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South Korea as dawn broke this morning.

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Its leader wants to focus on even tougher economic sanctions,

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as the United Nations Security Council meets later.

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Let's talk to our correspondent who is in Seoul. Things are moving.

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What's the latest? Well, South Korea spy agencies are saying if North

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Korea is preparing for another ballistic missile launch which could

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be launched towards the northern Pacific. So that's what the spy

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agencies are saying today. The fact that North Korea who conduct more

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missile launches that's not new. On Tuesday when they fired a rocket

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from near Pyongyang which flew over Japan, that was an intermediate

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range rocket they had already said that their leader Kim Jong-un

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ordered more missile drills that should be targeted at the Pacific.

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So, you know, it is quite likely that we will see more missile

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launches. Of course, nobody can say when that will happen. It will be

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significant though if it is another Intercontinental missile. The last

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time they fired these, there were two tests in July and many experts

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believed they had acquired the capability of launching rockets that

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could strike the US mainland. Thank you.

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We will bring you more on North Korea throughout the programme.

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Rebecca Jones is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

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A rise in interest rates won't take place for more than a year

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according to a BBC survey of 30 leading economists.

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Most are also predicting that pay rises will continue to fall behind

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inflation until the spring of next year, continuing the renewed

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squeeze on the average earner's living standards.

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There's a warning that policing in England and Wales is facing

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a "perfect storm" because of rising crime and staff shortages.

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The President of the Police Superintendents' Association,

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Gavin Thomas, will tell the group's annual conference today,

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that the government should review funding and resources.

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Our Home Affairs Correspondent, Danny Shaw reports.

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Is the thin blue line becoming too thin?

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Yes, says the Police Superintendents' Association.

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It's the organisation which represents 1,000

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middle-ranking officers, the men and women who make the key

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The superintendents are concerned that there are fewer police

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officers, working harder and working longer hours, in a more

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The man who leads the organisation believes that's a model of policing

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I think it's the service of first resort.

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I think it's the service of last resort,

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And I think also, what I've just described -

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I think we're also the service that is everything

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That puts a lot of pressure on police officers to try and meet

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that expectation from the public and I'm not convinced it's

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a sustainable position, in the mid-to-long term.

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The Superintendents' Association conducted a survey of its members

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72% of those who responded said they did not use all the annual

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50% of superintendents said they had signs of anxiety.

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And over a quarter, 27%, were experiencing symptoms

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of depression, linked to the demands of working in policing.

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The association is known for being the voice of moderation in policing,

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so its warnings are likely to be taken seriously.

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The Home Office says it's piloting a new national service to provide

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welfare support to police who need it.

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Ministers have also been having discussions with police leaders,

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amid calls for extra police funding for forces.

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But no decisions have yet been taken.

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The UK's coastal communities are among the country's

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worst off for earnings, employment, health and education

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The Social Market Foundation has told the BBC that the economic gap

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between coastal and non-coastal places has grown.

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Average wages are nearly ?4,000 a year lower in these so-called

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Meanwhile, the Minister for Coastal Communities has announced

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?40 million in funding to help coastal areas.

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The Gambling Commission has told this programme that the number

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of complaints about raffles taking place on social media has increased

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In the last two years they've had 417, compared to 129

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People who've played the games say there are potentially hundreds

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of illegal draws held on Facebook every day and they say they're

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We will show you our special report on this later on the programme.

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A disturbance at Birmingham Prison which lasted for seven hours has

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ended. Inmates refused to return to their cells yesterday afternoon and

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specialist staff had to be called in. The jail is privately run by G4S

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and was the scene of a large scale disorder in December last year which

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resulted in around 240 prisoners being moved out of the facility.

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Workers at two McDonald's restaurant will walk-out today in the first

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strike to affect the company. About 40 staff are demanding higher pay

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and more secure working hours. McDonald's said the dispute related

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to internal grievance procedures and those involved represented 100th of

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1% of its UK workforce. A state of emergency has been

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declared in Los Angeles as the city battles the worst wildfires

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in its history. Hundreds of homes

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have been evacuated. The fires, covering about 5,000

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acres, started on Friday, and have sent plumes of smoke

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over the city. Talks resume today on trying

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to bring back Northern Ireland's The Northern Ireland Secretary,

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James Brokenshire, will hold separate meetings with the five main

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Stormont parties. They will discuss the prospects

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for restoring devolved government, That's a summary of the latest BBC

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News - more at 9.30am. Thank you for your comments on the

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dodgy raffles on Facebook. Lucy says it is not just the raffle scams it

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is the pretend free give awas and the farming of data which puts users

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of suckers lists. The only way to eliminate is by alerting people that

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it is real. Another viewer says "It is only when someone posted that it

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was illegal and I researched and found it was. "I took to warning

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people myself that they were illegal and got removed from many sites, but

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I hope I warned enough people before they got into serious money

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troubles." Our investigation is coming up in about four minutes

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time. Stay tuned for that. Use the hashtag Victoria live if you have

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been involved in one of the illegal raffles, what were the consequences

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and what did you do about it? You can e-mail me or message me on

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Twitter. Lewis Hamilton is on top of the Formula One standings for the

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first time this year? Yes. That's right. He won the Italian Grand Prix

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yesterday and that means he takes the outright lead for the very first

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time this sees on. He is now three points ahead of his nearest rival

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who is Sebastian Vettel. Vettel finished in third place yesterday.

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It was Hamilton started from pole position from the 6th time in his

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career, 6th time makes him the most successful Formula One driver in

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terms of actually being on pole position. So he has overtaken

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Michael shoemaker. It was his 59th career Grand Prix victory. We will

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hear from Hamilton in a moment. Ferrari fans in Italy like Ferrari

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driver to win, so whoever doesn't come from the Ferrari team gets

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booing and you can hear a bit of it. Here is Lewis Hamilton speaking

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afterwards. Snoot car was fantastic and really a dream to drive. A big

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thank you to the fans who came out today. You know, I look forward to

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coming back here next year. I couldn't hear any booing. Sorry to

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let you down there, sorry. Tennis, US Open and the women's draw is wide

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open? The women's draw last night we had one player who was attacked

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eight months ago in her own home. Attacked by an intruder who came in

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and severed the tendons on her left-hand which is her racket

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holding hand. So she hasn't been able to play for a long time, but

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this is her Grand Slam where she has gone as far as the quarterfinals

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because she has beaten the Wimbledon champion. So an impressive victory

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for Kvitova. She said she doesn't feel any sensation in that

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left-hand. She will be playing Venus Williams in the next round. We have

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got Maria Sharapova who went out of the tournament overnight. She was

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playing in her first Grand Slam since returning from a 15 month

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doping ban. The Latvian played an impressive game and really managed

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to hold on to her final set to make sure that she beat Sharapova who has

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been outspoken about the fact that she has been put on show courts all

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the time she is playing at the Grand Slam in New York. She was given a

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wild card into the main draw. Some of the other players not happy, but

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she was happy with her performance having got through to the fourth

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round, but beaten last night. Here is Sharapova. There are a lot of

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positives playing four matches, playing in front of a big crowd and

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fans and just competing, you know, being in that competitive

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environment. It is what I miss. You can't replicate that anywhere. And

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especially at a Grand Slam. Sharapova talking about her Grand

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Slam run at the US Open. I want to finish by showing you some nice

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pictures. You may remember that Neymar went in the transfer window

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to PSG. Here is him doing keepy uppies. They go all the way round

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the pitch. Getting more and more elaborate, but they are on an

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international break and Brazil about to play Columbia. That was an

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impressive way to get around a pitch and do some warming up before a

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match. Certainly worth ?200 million obviously. He can do that!

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A shot gun, a monkey, a pregnant spaniel, all among the prizes

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offered in illegal raffles held on Facebook last year. The gambling

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commission has exclusively told this programme that numbers of complaints

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about drawers and tombolas taking place on social media have more than

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tripled since 2013, with potentially hundreds of illegal raffles held on

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Facebook every single day. Those who used them say that they are

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dangerous and addictive. Everyone can picture how a raffle works but

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what we have investigated is a long way from your village fete.

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Buy a ticket, help a charity, win a prize.

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But we've entered a murky online world

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where the language is anything but traditional.

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Some of the language, I'm telling you, it is worse than

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People have played their last ?50 or ?60

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And here, like your village fete, what you see isn't

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They keep changing their names and Facebook lets them do it.

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Maggie Hughes is disabled but she is well connected

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invited her to join raffle groups on Facebook.

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They don't even ask you to add you to the group.

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And how many have you been added to? Twenty five to 30.

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It is absolutely ridiculous, it really is.

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It's so easy to make up a raffle group page.

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You invite your contacts to join and play the games and sell tickets

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And from there, it works pretty much like a normal tombola.

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It's not as transparent as this online.

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Maggie Hughes became suspicious of one woman

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And I have not received any prizes from her at all.

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So I'm out of pocket between ?40 and ?50.

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It's not your life savings but tell me what sort

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Me and my husband are disabled. I'm physically disabled.

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And my husband's got dementia, so you know, it's not very good.

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It just upsets me and makes me angry that this girl

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Maggie says this is the woman she dealt with, Lauren Brattle,

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She's got about eight or nine different names on Facebook.

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Her name's one of many to crop up on a Facebook group raising

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who deals with problem raffles run all over the country.

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How much of thing is this? It's huge.

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Everybody's creating their own groups.

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There are daily posts in the tens of people having issues and problems

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with admin on these raffle groups or the people running the raffles

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are not drawing them correctly, they are not receiving their prizes.

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Plenty of people on Liz's group were only too keen

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There was a woman on the page yesterday who walked away with ?400

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of other people's money, I think.

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Yes, she was boasting she was taking her kids on holiday.

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There's so many nasty, selfish, greedy, money hungry idiots.

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I just didn't realise how rotten the world was.

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You are a victim of a scam as well. What actually happened?

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I've been scammed twice, I have, by two different people.

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The first one it was only a couple of quid but the point being she took

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money for a raffle and then didn't put my numbers on the raffle

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and when she was queried, then she started to turn nasty.

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Would get really nasty, the things people say.

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I tell you, women are the worst. Women are the worst.

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Coming from a woman, women are nasty.

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Karen Evans says she was ripped off by someone else.

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I played a page and I paid for the raffles and all of a sudden

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I tried to inbox a girl and she had blocked me.

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it is not a huge amount of money for one individual,

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but do you think this is widespread

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and they are making a lot of money from it?

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There was a page I was watching a few weeks ago.

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She said she would do one to 100 for ?10 and she was sending

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prizes out of ?60 or ?70, so she was making ?3 or ?4

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For me that made a full-time week's wage and one-day.

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Raffles and tombola that events like this are totally fine.

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On Facebook, it is a different matter.

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If you look at the Facebook terms and conditions,

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I suppose it is impossible with the amount of raffle pages

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and raffle groups that are springing up daily, how do you police that?

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that say you're supposed to have a license to do gambling.

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A raffle on whatever page, whether it be Facebook or anywhere,

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if you haven't got any backing from the Gambling Commission,

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then you are not legal and above board, are you?

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The Gambling Commission told us complaints about social media

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raffles have been massively on the rise in recent years.

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The prizes on offer included a shotgun, a monkey,

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Facebook says it shuts down illegal raffle pages as soon

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So many daily opportunities to gamble.

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If you are on 50 groups, you could get addicted.

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You could spend all day doing this, if you wanted to.

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I was on six or seven groups at one time.

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I would absolutely say people are becoming addicted.

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We are getting posts on the scammers group where people have

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paid their last ?50 or ?60 on one raffle and they have got children

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and they are spending their children's money

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Of course there is another reason why somebody might want to hold

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a raffle on Facebook, just like many of the stalls here,

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If you say you are fundraising for a specific charity,

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then you are legally obliged to give the money to it but you

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The one with all the Facebook profiles said her raffles raise

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I found she's made about ?1600 for this charity.

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And it's absolutely disgusting that this charity has not received

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The Sick Children's Trust confirmed Lauren has not given them any money.

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through what we are told is her latest Facebook profile,

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She said she didn't know what we were talking

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about and she doesn't even know Lauren Brattle.

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The thing is, there is more than a passing resemblance.

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And Demetria even boasted on social media that she has legally

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changed her name from Lauren Brattle.

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She said all the allegations against her are false and she hasn't

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Online raffles if unlicensed are often illegal and they are

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But with so many groups popping up daily, the question is how

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STUDIO: We contacted Lauren Brattle - the woman mentioned in our film.

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She says our allegations are 'untrue' and she's done nothing

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wrong. We asked her if she held a gambling licence but she didn't

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reply to that question. As for raffles held by other people - We

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asked Facebook how they are dealing with the issue - they told us their

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global team of reviewers provide 24/7 cover around the world to

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ensure we can respond to reports as quickly as possible. Get in touch

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with your own experiences. 2011, three reports of them during

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that year, the last two years, more than 300, so this is something

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increasing as social media becomes more and more popular. Explain the

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rules of when a raffle on Facebook, for example, or somewhere like that,

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is legal or illegal. There is clear specifics, if it is something you

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pay to enter, if it is a game of chance rather than luck, it should

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be licensed, whether that is online or not. What you are seeing on

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Facebook and other social media platforms, it is not being licensed

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either by us, the gambling commission, or by local authorities.

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If I wanted to run a raffle, I ought to apply to you for a licence. If

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they are not licensed, they are illegal, plain and simple. People

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still doing it without a licence, many hundreds, how do you clamp

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down? It is a challenge, it is like playing Whack-a-mole, that is the

:27:15.:27:21.

nature of social media. The raffles notified to us, we have closed over

:27:22.:27:26.

99% of those either by contacting the people in concerned and

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explaining the rules, and sometimes we find that people are simply

:27:30.:27:34.

unaware that they have to be licensed, or having very strong

:27:35.:27:37.

working relationships with people like Facebook and payment providers

:27:38.:27:41.

like PayPal, they are able to shut off the flow of money to some of

:27:42.:27:45.

these raffles. Is it a reasonable assumption that if the prize is a

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shot gun... A donkey... A rare chicken... A sex toy... A pregnant

:27:52.:27:56.

spring spaniel... Should we presume it is illegal? It should raise alarm

:27:57.:28:01.

bells! Some of these are clearly scams, no prize, pay your money, you

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will never win anything. We need to raise awareness so that people do

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not get conned. Are not sure if people realise, if you hose one of

:28:11.:28:14.

these raffles, it could be classed as income. -- if you hold one of

:28:15.:28:19.

these raffles. That could affect your benefits and tax. Allsorts of

:28:20.:28:23.

legal invocations, in the worst situations, people carrying out

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these raffles, not licensed, they may well face criminal prosecution.

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If you employ more people, you could close down more. Yes, thousands of

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people on thousands of computers for thousands of hours but we would

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still not be able to shut them all down, what is key is that we are

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working together with the public, with people like your viewers and

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those we have heard from today, to raise awareness. If people are on

:28:52.:28:55.

Facebook and other social media, if they see these lotteries, they can

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make sure they are licensed, they will know whether they are scams.

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How do they check? Go on to the website, the gambling commission,

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look at whether we have licensed them. Check with local councils who

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also licence them, or, ask the people running them, more often than

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not, if they are legitimate, they will have licence details upfront.

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If people have any concerns at all, if they see something that does not

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look or feel right, don't worry whether they do not know if it is

:29:26.:29:31.

legal or not, contact us, so we can shut it down if necessary. Final

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word on those that fall into addiction, what do you do to help

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those people? This is really important, research shows that in

:29:40.:29:41.

Great Britain there is over 2 million people who are either

:29:42.:29:46.

problem gamblers or at risk of becoming problem gamblers. It is

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something the gambling industry need to take really seriously. Do you

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think they do? There is need more they need to do, the fact there is

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too many people in that position shows that they are a long way from

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solving this. We put clear rules in place but these are legal raffles,

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they would not have any of those protections in place, no age

:30:10.:30:13.

verification, no protection to identify people becoming addicted.

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That is a big risk for the public from these illegal raffles, that is

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why we want to shut down these raffles and raise awareness. Thank

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you very much for joining us. Coming up: we will meet a

:30:23.:30:29.

27-year-old woman who has been told she will develop early-onset

:30:30.:30:35.

Alzheimer's, her father was diagnosed with it at 42, we will

:30:36.:30:40.

talk to her later. And, after 10:30am, we will talk live to a

:30:41.:30:48.

model who was sacked by L'Oreal, after her comments about white

:30:49.:30:52.

people and racism. If you have a question for her, get in touch.

:30:53.:30:58.

Here is Rebecca with a summary of the news.

:30:59.:31:05.

President Trump has warned the United States is ready

:31:06.:31:07.

to use its nuclear capabilities in defending itself, and its allies,

:31:08.:31:10.

His comments come as the United Nations prepares for an emergency

:31:11.:31:13.

session to discuss the regime's claims of a successful nuclear

:31:14.:31:16.

South Korea has responded to Pyongyang's nuclear test

:31:17.:31:19.

by staging a live-fire missile exercise.

:31:20.:31:23.

A rise in interest rates won't take place for more than a year

:31:24.:31:26.

according to a BBC survey of thirty leading economists.

:31:27.:31:29.

Most are also predicting that pay rises will continue to fall behind

:31:30.:31:32.

inflation until the spring of next year, continuing the renewed

:31:33.:31:35.

squeeze on the average earner's living standards.

:31:36.:31:45.

Workers at two McDonald's restaurants will walk out today

:31:46.:31:47.

in the first strike to affect the company in Britain.

:31:48.:31:51.

About 40 staff in Cambridge and south-east London,

:31:52.:31:53.

are demanding higher pay and more secure working hours.

:31:54.:31:55.

McDonald's says the dispute relates to internal grievance procedures,

:31:56.:32:05.

and those involved represent just one hundredth of 1%

:32:06.:32:07.

Scientists developed a camera that can see through the human body. The

:32:08.:32:20.

device has been designed to help doctors track medical tools during

:32:21.:32:24.

internal examinations. Until now, medics have had to rely on expensive

:32:25.:32:27.

scans to trace their progress. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:32:28.:32:30.

News - more at 10am. Lewis Hamilton says

:32:31.:32:33.

it is an empsowering feeling to finally be the outright leader

:32:34.:32:41.

at the top of formula one's world championship standings

:32:42.:32:44.

for the first time this season. Hamilton won the Italian Grand Prix

:32:45.:32:46.

to move three points clear Maria Sharapova has been knocked

:32:47.:32:49.

out of tennis' US Open. She was beaten in the fourth

:32:50.:32:55.

round by Anastasia It's Sharapova's first Grand Slam

:32:56.:32:57.

since returning from a drugs ban. Petra Kvitova is through

:32:58.:33:04.

to the quarter-finals Britain's Chris Froome has

:33:05.:33:06.

increased his overall lead at the Vuelta a Espana to one

:33:07.:33:09.

minute and one second Jordan Henderson will captain

:33:10.:33:12.

neglnad for tongiht's World Cup A win will leave them

:33:13.:33:20.

on the cusp of qualifying Northern Ireland and Scotland play

:33:21.:33:23.

later tonight. North Korea has raised the stakes

:33:24.:33:34.

again and the rest of the world This time it seems to have been

:33:35.:33:37.

a hydrogen bomb that's been tested, massively more powerful

:33:38.:33:42.

than the atomic bombs they've tested in the past and it can fit

:33:43.:33:44.

a long range missile. There are signs this morning

:33:45.:33:47.

that the secretive state is planning The United Nations Security Council

:33:48.:33:49.

is holding an emergency meeting today and America is warning that

:33:50.:33:54.

any threat to the US or its allies by North Korea will be met

:33:55.:33:58.

with a "massive military response". So what do we know about

:33:59.:34:00.

the latest nuclear test? In response overnight South Korea

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has conducted a missile drill simulating an attack

:35:31.:35:33.

on the North Korean nuclear site. The live fire exercise off the east

:35:34.:35:38.

coast saw rockets launched from fighter jets and missiles

:35:39.:35:41.

from the ground. North Korea has repeatedly defied UN

:35:42.:35:49.

sanctions and international pressure by developing nuclear weapons

:35:50.:35:52.

and testing missiles. In the past couple months it has

:35:53.:36:00.

conducted intercontinental ballistic missile tests,

:36:01.:36:02.

sending one over mainland Japan It has also threatened to send

:36:03.:36:04.

missiles towards the US He did military service

:36:05.:36:08.

in the North Korean army for 10 in South Korea Duyeon Kim,

:36:09.:36:21.

is a Nuclear Security expert Pastor Makr Burns,

:36:22.:36:29.

an African-American pastor and trump This is something much more

:36:30.:37:06.

powerful. Can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you. Tell us why this test

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of North Korea is more worrying and potentially dangerous? Yes, of

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course, this is really dangerous for South Korea and the United States,

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but I think, what I feel is that it's not a surprise. Excuse me, can

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you hear me? We can hear you loud and clear. Yes, you were telling us

:37:38.:37:40.

it wasn't a surprise for you. Tell us why. Because the regime is always

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talking about a military option and nuclear tests. They don't have much

:37:56.:38:06.

money, this is a regime who think about, this is really an option to

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protect the North Korean regime. Let me bring in a nuclear security

:38:17.:38:19.

expert talking to us from Seoul. How do you assess this latest test?

:38:20.:38:23.

Thank you for having me on the show. I would agree with Ken that this is

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not surprising. We have been expecting the north to conduct it's

:38:29.:38:32.

sixth nuclear test. We should expect them to conduct more going forward

:38:33.:38:38.

because they have a technological objective which is to miniaturise,

:38:39.:38:42.

make a nuclear warhead small enough so it can mount it on a missile. So

:38:43.:38:46.

in order to do that they have to keep testing. The same goes for

:38:47.:38:51.

missiles. They have to keep testing missiles in order to perfect this

:38:52.:38:55.

technology and the reason why this is not surprising is because the

:38:56.:39:00.

north has announced, they don't make it a secret. Their plans are not

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secret. For example Kim Jong-un earlier this year during his New

:39:05.:39:08.

Year's address said the country will test an ICBM. They did it. They did

:39:09.:39:14.

it twice. So in that sense, they don't make their goals, their

:39:15.:39:18.

nuclear missile goals a secret at all. They follow through now.

:39:19.:39:23.

Whether we believe their proclaimed announcements like the one yesterday

:39:24.:39:27.

after their nuclear test, whether we believe that, it really was a

:39:28.:39:31.

success or how big or powerful it was, that needs to be up for

:39:32.:39:36.

independent verification, but eventually the north is showing us

:39:37.:39:39.

and telling us where it wants to go. So, we do have clues and hints as to

:39:40.:39:46.

what the north's next milestone is. What do you say that is? Well their

:39:47.:39:52.

ultimate goal that they have also is not a secret is they want to be able

:39:53.:39:57.

to mount a nuclear warhead on a missile and have an operational and

:39:58.:40:03.

a reliable missile whether it is an ICBM, of course an ICBM to reach the

:40:04.:40:08.

US homeland, but also short range missiles that can also, that are

:40:09.:40:13.

targeted at South Korea and mid-range missile targeted at Japan

:40:14.:40:17.

also mounted with, tipped with nuclear devices and now it is just a

:40:18.:40:25.

matter of time until they complete their objectives and with every

:40:26.:40:31.

single nuclear missile test the north achieves multiple objectives

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at once. So again as I mentioned technological objective, but there

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is a political objective. They send a message to the outside world about

:40:41.:40:44.

their announcements and about their achievements, but they are telling

:40:45.:40:48.

their domestic constituents that this is how much more powerful they

:40:49.:40:55.

have gotten. Let me bring in Pastor Mark Burns who is a Donald Trump

:40:56.:40:59.

supporter and travelled with him during Donald Trump's presidential

:41:00.:41:04.

campaign. You have just heard it being said it is a matter of time

:41:05.:41:07.

before they achieve what they want to achieve. Is Donald Trump going to

:41:08.:41:12.

let them achieve that? Well, let's be clear. I have spent many hours

:41:13.:41:16.

and days and weeks with the president of the United States of

:41:17.:41:21.

America. Having spent countless hours with him, I can tell you and

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North Korea really needs to know this - that the President of the

:41:27.:41:31.

United States, Donald J Trump is man of his word and it is very true that

:41:32.:41:38.

North Korea truly heed the warnings of our second of defence especially

:41:39.:41:43.

as the president had the conversation with the Japanese Prime

:41:44.:41:50.

Minister that he can rid lie on the support of America with Japan and

:41:51.:41:55.

reminding North Korea with the Prime Minister of Japan that America will

:41:56.:42:01.

use the full might the United States military to make sure that we

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protect our allies. We protect our territories. We protect our US

:42:07.:42:11.

interests. So it is important that they know the president is not

:42:12.:42:14.

playing politics when it comes to the safety and the defence of the

:42:15.:42:18.

United States of America and our interests. Let me bring in a British

:42:19.:42:24.

politician, Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, do you think that's right about

:42:25.:42:27.

Donald Trump? What we have got to try and avoid is ratcheting up this

:42:28.:42:32.

whole thing. We need diplomacy here and really what we need is Donald

:42:33.:42:36.

Trump to get together with President Xi and say we have got to sort this

:42:37.:42:42.

out because a military option would be disastrous from what Kim has

:42:43.:42:48.

said. Missiles from North Korea to Seoul, 26 miles away, a million

:42:49.:42:52.

strong army over the border there, a military option would be disastrous

:42:53.:42:55.

and it is a very much the last resort. So, China is the key to

:42:56.:42:59.

this. Yes. You will see Donald Trump's tweets saying China is

:43:00.:43:03.

trying, but seems to be failing. Well, I think the Chinese could put

:43:04.:43:06.

more pressure on. I don't know why they're not. They could, if they

:43:07.:43:11.

enforce the UN sanctions properly, if they stopped foreign workers

:43:12.:43:15.

working in China for example so they didn't get foreign currency, if they

:43:16.:43:19.

cut off the fuel this would put a lot of pressure on the North Korean

:43:20.:43:26.

regime. They don't want to do that because they don't want to provoke a

:43:27.:43:31.

refugee crisis? They don't want the regime in North Korea to fall

:43:32.:43:33.

because they don't want a united Korea. It is that simple, but on the

:43:34.:43:38.

other hand, the world can't be faced with another whole raft of thuke

:43:39.:43:45.

collar devices because nuclear proliferation would extend to South

:43:46.:43:49.

Korea, Japan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, goodness knows who else would want

:43:50.:43:53.

to get proper thermal nuclear technology. We are at the point of

:43:54.:43:56.

great danger for the world at the moment. Do you think there will be

:43:57.:44:00.

military intervention from the US? Well, it is incumbent on the US and

:44:01.:44:04.

Donald Trump and President Xi. I can't believe that President Xi of

:44:05.:44:09.

China would want a thermonuclear power on its doorstep particularly

:44:10.:44:15.

an unpredictable one run by someone like Kim Jong-un. They will want to

:44:16.:44:18.

step in and I think the sooner they step in the better. Do you think

:44:19.:44:22.

there will be military action? It has got to be on the cards at the

:44:23.:44:26.

moment. Let's hope and pray that doesn't happen. Pastor Mark Burns do

:44:27.:44:31.

you think throl be millingtry action? Well, the president made it

:44:32.:44:35.

very clear that all options are on the table. That includes a military

:44:36.:44:41.

action. Again, it would be very bad for North Korea to again, these are

:44:42.:44:48.

threats against the free world and again as President Trump has made it

:44:49.:44:52.

clear, wanting China to put more pressure. We want President Xi to

:44:53.:44:57.

put more pressure, but at the end of the day America is going to protect

:44:58.:45:03.

America's interests and general mat tis along with President Trump made

:45:04.:45:08.

it clear that all options are on the table and that will include military

:45:09.:45:12.

action if North Korea don't get in check.

:45:13.:45:14.

A diplomatic initiative between President Trump and the president of

:45:15.:45:20.

China, to sort this thing, do you agree, that would be a much better

:45:21.:45:23.

option than a nuclear option? Absolutely, absolutely, again, the

:45:24.:45:28.

ultimate goal is that they will be pleased with that will stop I would

:45:29.:45:33.

love to see a peaceful resolution taking place, I would love to see

:45:34.:45:37.

North Korea give up this dog and pony show, to prove their might to

:45:38.:45:42.

the world, while threatening US interest. I would love for that to

:45:43.:45:46.

take place but at the end of the day, it is in the hands of China and

:45:47.:45:51.

North Korea. Donald Trump is going to do what Donald Trump says he will

:45:52.:45:57.

do, protect United States interests and arrow allies. Thank you very

:45:58.:46:02.

much, thank you for coming onto the programme.

:46:03.:46:09.

Still to come: the police superintendents assocation is

:46:10.:46:15.

warning of the 'perfect storm' facing England and Wales' police

:46:16.:46:17.

forces - we'll hear from them before the end of the programme.

:46:18.:46:22.

More than 90% of us think further terror attacks

:46:23.:46:24.

according to a new poll commissioned by BBC Inside Out.

:46:25.:46:28.

Terrorist attacks have rarely been out of the headlines this year

:46:29.:46:31.

with three fatal terror attacks in London, the bombing of a concert

:46:32.:46:33.

in Manchester and several atrocities in Europe,

:46:34.:46:35.

including the recent attacks in Spain.

:46:36.:46:45.

Let's now talk to our arts correspondent Colin Paterson

:46:46.:46:47.

who reported from outside the Manchester Arena bombing in May,

:46:48.:46:49.

and has been looking at the results of this poll.

:46:50.:46:55.

Hello, good morning, effectively, most of us think further attacks are

:46:56.:47:00.

likely, and three out of ten of us feel less safe in public places

:47:01.:47:05.

compared to one year ago. This is all for Inside Out, 7:30pm tonight,

:47:06.:47:11.

90% is the standout, 90% believe that it is likely that there will be

:47:12.:47:15.

more terror attacks. The survey shows the way this has been

:47:16.:47:19.

impacting on people's lives. Almost one in five of us says that they are

:47:20.:47:24.

less likely to go to a major arena event or sports stadium event than

:47:25.:47:28.

they were at this time last year, carrying through to public

:47:29.:47:31.

transport, the same figure, one in five of us says they feel less safe

:47:32.:47:37.

on public transport than in this time last year because of the

:47:38.:47:43.

terror. This could explain why 52% of people in England say that they

:47:44.:47:47.

are willing for the security services to have more powers to

:47:48.:47:52.

investigate terrorism, even at the expense of privacy to individuals.

:47:53.:47:55.

That is interesting. Despite the figures, there are clearly many

:47:56.:48:00.

people attempting to go on living their lives as normally as possible.

:48:01.:48:04.

Absolutely, one heartening statistic, 88% of people say they

:48:05.:48:07.

have not actually changed any arrangements they had in place

:48:08.:48:14.

before last year's -- this year's terror attacks happening, 88% of

:48:15.:48:17.

people, and there are signs that life continues, none more so than

:48:18.:48:21.

the fact Manchester Arena reopens for the first time since the Ariana

:48:22.:48:26.

Grande terrorist attack, reopens this Saturday, a special all-star

:48:27.:48:33.

concert, We Are Manchester, Blossoms, Rick Astley, Noel

:48:34.:48:39.

Gallagher, local acts, The Courteeners, that is a sign that

:48:40.:48:44.

things are getting back to normal. Manchester Arena, only three months

:48:45.:48:48.

since it was the site of a terror attack, Mariah Carey has announced

:48:49.:48:51.

that she will take her special Christmas tour to Manchester Arena

:48:52.:48:56.

tour, and so it must be said that things are getting back to normal in

:48:57.:48:57.

some ways. Lets talk to David McCarthy, on one

:48:58.:49:04.

of the trains attacked by a suicide bomber, on July seven, 2005. Also

:49:05.:49:13.

with us, Keman Allen, who was at the Ariana Grande concert in Manchester

:49:14.:49:15.

that was bombed earlier this year, and Dr Sally Leivesley, who advises

:49:16.:49:18.

governments and companies on the protection of the public. Thank you

:49:19.:49:26.

for talking to us. Keman, how has your behaviour changed, if at all,

:49:27.:49:29.

since you were caught up in the bombings? Yeah, I can hear you. I

:49:30.:49:41.

was a bit quiet, I wonder if you can tell the audience how your behaviour

:49:42.:49:46.

has changed since you were caught up in the Manchester Arena bombing?

:49:47.:49:56.

INAUDIBLE STUDIO: I'm going to come back to

:49:57.:50:01.

you, the line is not good enough, I really do want to hear what you have

:50:02.:50:06.

got to say, so we will redial. David, hello, can you hear me? Yes,

:50:07.:50:12.

I can you find. Thank you for talking to us, I wonder if your

:50:13.:50:24.

behaviour changed at all after 7/7? I'm certainly more conscious of

:50:25.:50:26.

personal safety, one example is I travel a lot by air, for business,

:50:27.:50:33.

and I kind of make a conscious effort now, when I sit down and, to

:50:34.:50:37.

count cumin seeds I am away from exit rose, to pay attention to the

:50:38.:50:42.

safety demonstrations and so on and so forth. -- to count how many seats

:50:43.:50:51.

I am away from the exit Rows. That maybe many people, not just those

:50:52.:50:55.

caught up in terror attacks, would you say? Yeah, one of the things I

:50:56.:51:02.

experienced in the terror attack, was, when the bombs went off, one of

:51:03.:51:06.

the natural human responses is to freeze... To wait for some the

:51:07.:51:11.

Ulster take charge, I think now, I'm certainly a lot more proactive, in

:51:12.:51:17.

event of an incident like that. Part of that proactivity is before

:51:18.:51:22.

anything happens, trying to keep the conscious thought about escape

:51:23.:51:27.

routes, access to emergency, and so on and so forth. I hope that we can

:51:28.:51:33.

speak with Keman again, so sorry about that, can you hear me OK now?

:51:34.:51:39.

Looks like not, we will try again in a moment. Dr, how surprised are you

:51:40.:51:46.

that one fifth of people say they are now more wary of using public

:51:47.:51:50.

transport, and around the same number of people say that they are

:51:51.:51:54.

less likely to go to a sports concert or stadium. It is not

:51:55.:51:58.

surprised, that survey is probably the best news for British police, it

:51:59.:52:02.

tells them to keep on doing what they are doing, it means people now

:52:03.:52:06.

have a level of awareness, and as we heard, after the bombings on 7/7,

:52:07.:52:12.

the awareness with those victims is staying with them but we need that

:52:13.:52:17.

level of awareness, because the frequency of attacks is changing

:52:18.:52:22.

quite badly. 90% of people, according to this survey, say that

:52:23.:52:27.

they think that there will be another terror attack in the UK. We

:52:28.:52:31.

know the threat level has been severe for a number of years, raised

:52:32.:52:35.

two critical earlier this year, briefly, then dropped down again, in

:52:36.:52:41.

practical terms, remind us what this severe threat level means. It means

:52:42.:52:46.

an attack is probable. And very likely. When it gets to a real

:52:47.:52:52.

critical stage, we know that then, an attack is just about on us. Right

:52:53.:52:59.

now, it is a case of once we are told there is a threat, we have to

:53:00.:53:04.

understand that the police may not always know where it is going to

:53:05.:53:07.

happen. Years ago, they had good intelligence. We are aware, what

:53:08.:53:11.

that survey is doing is showing that the message of awareness is creating

:53:12.:53:18.

a lot of situational awareness. The leisure situation, such as in

:53:19.:53:21.

Manchester, those horrendous attacks, that is keeping people away

:53:22.:53:24.

from leisure activities but I don't think that will keep on, I think

:53:25.:53:29.

people will go back. It might be for a year but then people will go back

:53:30.:53:34.

to normal numbers. As time passes, people go back to their normal

:53:35.:53:39.

routines. David, I wonder, mentally, can you tell us a little bit about

:53:40.:53:43.

that side of things, having been caught up in the 7/7 attacks. It was

:53:44.:53:53.

several years ago now, so most of the mental stress of the event has

:53:54.:53:57.

passed, but in the days after the event, I had what I would consider

:53:58.:54:02.

to be some kind of post-traumatic stress disorder, but I was not aware

:54:03.:54:10.

I was going to experience that, I found myself getting angry at odd

:54:11.:54:13.

times and for odd reasons. Seven years after the event, whenever the

:54:14.:54:17.

anniversary would come about, I would feel emotional. -- several

:54:18.:54:22.

years. I do not tend to feel too much about it any more, I have moved

:54:23.:54:27.

on a lot, but obviously, it can be very stressful. What would your

:54:28.:54:34.

advice be, to people who might feel anxious about being in public spaces

:54:35.:54:38.

in this country? If people are extremely anxious, I won't say,

:54:39.:54:42.

don't use trains... If you are that anxious and it will cause you to

:54:43.:54:46.

have a high level of anxiety, do not, but you can see how it is being

:54:47.:54:50.

managed. If you are getting on the plane and counting trains seats, to

:54:51.:54:54.

the exit, that is a way of managing, you know you can get out. Awareness

:54:55.:54:59.

makes us look around, being in confined transport and being aware,

:55:00.:55:03.

as the survey shows, means people will be quicker in reacting, if they

:55:04.:55:08.

see a terrorist attack. Generally, it means getting on with your normal

:55:09.:55:12.

life, that is what the survey shows, the terrorists have not created

:55:13.:55:16.

fear. I could not think of a better result. Thank you very much. Thank

:55:17.:55:22.

you for talking to us. I am sorry that we could not get to talk to

:55:23.:55:26.

Keman in the end. You can see more on the result from the terrorism

:55:27.:55:28.

poll on inside out, which returns for a new

:55:29.:55:34.

series tonight at 7:30pm for viewers in England.

:55:35.:55:38.

A BBC investigation has unearthed evidence that so-called Islamic

:55:39.:55:44.

State agents were trying to recruit people in 2016 for an attack in

:55:45.:55:49.

central London. In online messages, sent to the BBC inside out reporter,

:55:50.:55:55.

a reporter for IS suggested attacks on two locations which were both

:55:56.:55:59.

targeted earlier this year. The authorities were fully aware of the

:56:00.:56:02.

reporter's contact with the organisation.

:56:03.:57:49.

7:30pm, for viewers in England. Now, the weather forecast.

:57:50.:57:57.

Quite a lot of clout across many parts of the country to start the

:57:58.:58:02.

day, certainly mild for the time of year, as the sunshine starts to

:58:03.:58:05.

break holes in the cloud, it will warm up as we head into the

:58:06.:58:10.

afternoon. A couple of pictures from weather Watchers, similar scenes

:58:11.:58:13.

from many parts of the country. Fairly low cloud, grey conditions,

:58:14.:58:19.

and mist and fog around this morning. This scene was taken in

:58:20.:58:22.

Shropshire by one of the weather Watchers. As we had through the

:58:23.:58:28.

morning, this scene will be fairly similar, warm front, moving

:58:29.:58:33.

gradually east across the country, murky air, a lot of low cloud and

:58:34.:58:36.

some drizzly rain and some hill fog around as well. For the north-west,

:58:37.:58:41.

persistent band of rain, cold front, we will see clearer conditions later

:58:42.:58:46.

on, for much of Scotland and Northern Ireland, we will see rain

:58:47.:58:49.

heavy at times, rumble of thunder, into the middle part of the day, and

:58:50.:58:53.

England and Wales, fairly cloudy, a few showers. Sunny skies pushing

:58:54.:59:01.

through, into the afternoon, but we are still sitting with the cloud and

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the rain on Central Scotland into the likes of Antrim. Further south

:59:05.:59:09.

across England and Wales, if you holes in the cloud. Brightening up

:59:10.:59:12.

through the afternoon, with the brighter skies, one or two showers

:59:13.:59:18.

threatening. Temperatures likely to reach 22, 20 three degrees. That is

:59:19.:59:22.

above what we would expect. Mild theme continues, we will see the

:59:23.:59:28.

weather front hitting up. -- 22, 23 degrees. Pretty wet nights to come.

:59:29.:59:35.

Towards the south-east, dryer, murky, certainly mild, no chance of

:59:36.:59:40.

frost with cloud around and rain as well. Looking at tomorrow, weather

:59:41.:59:45.

front sitting across parts of the country, bringing wet weather and

:59:46.:59:51.

breezy conditions to start the day but Tuesday will be on improving

:59:52.:59:54.

picture. You can see the rain around during the morning but by the

:59:55.:59:58.

evening, the rain will fizzle to the east. Eastern England staying quite

:59:59.:00:05.

cloudy and drizzly, too. A return to sunshine across Scotland, Northern

:00:06.:00:09.

Ireland, Wales, Southwest as well, not as warm as it would be today, 16

:00:10.:00:14.

to 21 degrees, feeling fresher as well. That fresher feel continues

:00:15.:00:19.

into the middle of the week, certainly for Wednesday, westerly

:00:20.:00:23.

breeze bringing a few bright spells, not quite as warm as it is out there

:00:24.:00:27.

today, sunnier and drier weather around. Does look like by the end of

:00:28.:00:32.

the week we will see something more autumnal, wet and windy weather

:00:33.:00:35.

eventually on the way full of all in all, a pretty mixed week ahead. --

:00:36.:00:42.

on the way. All in all, a pretty mixed week ahead.

:00:43.:00:46.

Hello, it's Monday. It's 10am.

:00:47.:00:47.

Our top story today - amid signs that North Korea

:00:48.:00:51.

is preparing more new missile launches, the United States promises

:00:52.:00:53.

a "massive and overwhelming military response" to defend itself

:00:54.:00:55.

Mattis along with President Trump made it clear that all options are

:00:56.:01:00.

on the table and that will include military action if North Korea don't

:01:01.:01:02.

get in check. Donald Trump is going to do what

:01:03.:01:05.

Donald Trump says he will do and that is protect United States

:01:06.:01:06.

interests and our allies. The 27-year-old woman who's been

:01:07.:01:07.

told she'll develop early Her father was diagnosed

:01:08.:01:14.

with it at 42. My next biggest fear is not to be

:01:15.:01:27.

able to watch him to grow up. For him to know that I might not be

:01:28.:01:30.

there is heartbreaking. We'll see how she's planning her

:01:31.:01:32.

life knowing what lies ahead. And we'll meet the model

:01:33.:01:35.

who was fired by L'Oreal after saying that all white people

:01:36.:01:37.

benefit from racism. If you have got a question, get in

:01:38.:01:39.

touch. Rebecca Jones is in the BBC

:01:40.:01:49.

Newsroom with a summary President Trump has warned

:01:50.:01:53.

the United States is ready to use its nuclear capabilities

:01:54.:02:00.

in defending itself, and its allies, His comments come as the United

:02:01.:02:02.

Nations prepares for an emergency session to discuss the regime's

:02:03.:02:06.

claims of a successful nuclear South Korea has responded

:02:07.:02:08.

to Pyongyang's nuclear test by staging a live

:02:09.:02:12.

fire missile exercise. A rise in interest rates won't take

:02:13.:02:19.

place for more than a year according to a BBC survey

:02:20.:02:23.

of 30 leading economists. Most are also predicting that pay

:02:24.:02:26.

rises will continue to fall behind inflation until the spring of next

:02:27.:02:29.

year, continuing the renewed squeeze on the average

:02:30.:02:32.

earner's living standards. The Gambling Commission has told

:02:33.:02:43.

this programme that the number of complaints about raffles taking

:02:44.:02:45.

place on social media has increased In the last two years they've had

:02:46.:02:48.

417, compared to 129 People who've played the games say

:02:49.:02:52.

there are potentially hundreds of illegal draws held on Facebook

:02:53.:03:00.

every day and they say they're Workers at two McDonald's

:03:01.:03:03.

restaurants will walk out today in the first strike to affect

:03:04.:03:10.

the company in Britain. About 40 staff in Cambridge

:03:11.:03:13.

and south-east London, are demanding higher pay and more

:03:14.:03:15.

secure working hours. McDonald's says the dispute relates

:03:16.:03:19.

to internal grievance procedures and those involved represent just

:03:20.:03:21.

one hundredth of 1% Scientists have developed a camera

:03:22.:03:23.

that can see through the human body. The device has been designed to help

:03:24.:03:36.

doctors track medical tools Until now, medics have had

:03:37.:03:40.

to rely on expensive scans That's a summary of the latest BBC

:03:41.:03:47.

News - more at 10.30am. Petra Kvitova has reached

:03:48.:03:55.

the quarter-finals of the US Open after a stunning straight sets win

:03:56.:04:09.

over Wimbledon champion Kvitova - who only returned

:04:10.:04:11.

to action in May following a knife attack at her home last December -

:04:12.:04:15.

played aggressive attacking tennis to come back from 1-4 down

:04:16.:04:17.

in the first set to win 7-6, 6-3. It's the first time she's

:04:18.:04:21.

reached the last eight The former US Open champion

:04:22.:04:23.

Maria Sharapova follows Muguruza It's the Russian's first Grand Slam

:04:24.:04:28.

since returning to tennis She lost the fourth round match

:04:29.:04:31.

to Anastasija Sevastova. There are a lot of positives, you

:04:32.:04:46.

know, playing four matches, playing in front of a big crowd and fans and

:04:47.:04:50.

just competing, you know, being in that competitive environment. It is

:04:51.:04:54.

what I miss. You can't replicate that anywhere. Specially at a Grand

:04:55.:04:57.

Slam. Britain's Lewis Hamilton described

:04:58.:05:06.

taking the outright lead at the top of Fromula One's world championship

:05:07.:05:08.

standings for the first time this The Mercedes driver won

:05:09.:05:11.

the Italian Grand Prix in dominant A day after brekaing the all-time

:05:12.:05:14.

record for pole positions. Hamilton was in total control

:05:15.:05:18.

at Monza, finishing ahead of team-mate Valtteri Bottas

:05:19.:05:20.

for a Mercedes one-two. Ferrari's Sebastian Vettel was third

:05:21.:05:22.

and is now three points behind Hamilton in the race

:05:23.:05:25.

for the world title. Three of the Home Nations play

:05:26.:05:27.

World Cup qualifiers tonight. Northern Ireland take

:05:28.:05:30.

on the Czech Republic, and England play

:05:31.:05:34.

Slovakia at Wembley. Jordan Henderson will again captain

:05:35.:05:36.

the England side fresh from Friday's Gareth Southgate's side could move

:05:37.:05:40.

five points clear at the top of their group and virtually

:05:41.:05:44.

secure their place in Russia If Slovakia win they will move

:05:45.:05:46.

above England in their group. It's a great opportunity for us. We

:05:47.:05:59.

have a home game. We are playing good opposition. So we've got to

:06:00.:06:04.

make sure that we are tactically prepared which we will be, but also

:06:05.:06:07.

we have got to have belief in the team that we've got. We've got some

:06:08.:06:10.

exciting players and we want to go and show that.

:06:11.:06:16.

Scotland are in the same group as England but are still four

:06:17.:06:19.

points behind Slovakia in the play-off spot.

:06:20.:06:22.

They host Malta tonight and realistically needing three wins

:06:23.:06:25.

from their last three games to claim that second place.

:06:26.:06:28.

We need to win as many games as we possibly can. Everyone said it was a

:06:29.:06:35.

must win game against Lithuania. We scored three goals and created a lot

:06:36.:06:39.

of chances as well. It shows you that spirit in the lads and we

:06:40.:06:43.

believe that we can keep pushing in every game whether it is 60 minutes,

:06:44.:06:47.

70 minutes or 80 minutes however long it takes to get the first goal,

:06:48.:06:49.

we believe we'll do it. And Chris Froome can enjoy his final

:06:50.:06:52.

rest day after further extending his advantage

:06:53.:06:55.

at the Vuelta a Espana. On a tough day in the mountains,

:06:56.:06:57.

the Tour de France winner was able to increase his lead over nearest

:06:58.:07:00.

rival Vincenzo Nibali Columbia's Miguel Angel Lopez

:07:01.:07:02.

took the stage win. Froome remains on course to become

:07:03.:07:09.

only the third man to complete the Tour and Vuelta

:07:10.:07:13.

double in the same year. Next - meet Jayde Green -

:07:14.:07:17.

she's 27 and genetic tests suggest she will develop early-onset

:07:18.:07:37.

Alzheimer's, as her father Over 500,000 people

:07:38.:07:39.

in Birtain have Alzheimer's. It is the most common form

:07:40.:07:43.

of dementia and usually affects those over the age of 60,

:07:44.:07:47.

but there are a small number of people -

:07:48.:07:52.

fewer than 4% of sufferers - who develop early

:07:53.:07:55.

on-set alzheimers. Jayde Green has a one-year-old son,

:07:56.:08:01.

and is preparing for the future. Our reporter Hannah Morrison

:08:02.:08:04.

went to visit her at her When I was around 12 years old, my

:08:05.:08:17.

dad became ill. We knew it was Alzheimer'sment we were told various

:08:18.:08:20.

things over the years, but nobody could be sure what it was. All the

:08:21.:08:26.

while his health was deceasing. By the time I was 14 he had almost

:08:27.:08:30.

forgotten who I was. I have got a little book that I have been writing

:08:31.:08:35.

stuff in for Freddie because I want him to know, I want him to know how

:08:36.:08:40.

I feel now, right now at this moment and you know I might not be around

:08:41.:08:44.

to tell him. I'm writing things down for him so if one day this does

:08:45.:08:50.

happen he will know how I feel, from the day he was born almost. At 40

:08:51.:08:55.

years old my dad was my dadment at 41 years old, my dad was my dad. It

:08:56.:09:00.

was only around that year that he turned 42, around that year, that

:09:01.:09:05.

things started changing. When I was around 12 I was living with him, it

:09:06.:09:10.

was just me and him living together, and he would just start sort of, we

:09:11.:09:14.

would have a conversation and it would seem he would blank out parts

:09:15.:09:19.

of the conversation. You know, he would say something to me and then

:09:20.:09:22.

come back and repeat it exactly the same as if we hadn't had the

:09:23.:09:25.

conversation or he wouldn't remember what I had responded to him so he'd

:09:26.:09:31.

ask. By that point, not long after, is when I moved in with my

:09:32.:09:36.

grandparents and he had deteriorated a lot by that point. I went to see

:09:37.:09:39.

him at the care home and he had no idea who I was. No ideament he would

:09:40.:09:44.

smile, but he would look through me. He was happy in his own little

:09:45.:09:48.

world, but he had no idea who I was. I could have been anyone walking in

:09:49.:09:53.

to him. How hard was it for you? Every time I would visit him, I

:09:54.:09:57.

couldn't cope with doing it again so soon and it just took more time and

:09:58.:10:01.

more time and then the next thing I heard was that he passed away.

:10:02.:10:12.

Your dad was not the only one amongst his siblings

:10:13.:10:14.

who was suffering from early Alzheimer's.

:10:15.:10:16.

He started suffering and his twin brother followed about two years

:10:17.:10:19.

But his other two siblings didn't start showing symptoms

:10:20.:10:26.

There was obviously a clear genetic link there.

:10:27.:10:29.

At what point did you start to think about yourself?

:10:30.:10:33.

I suppose it wasn't until I had my son.

:10:34.:10:37.

That's a big bit of responsibility that hits you.

:10:38.:10:39.

You start thinking about every little thing for the future

:10:40.:10:42.

and your health and all of a sudden you need to be here for this child.

:10:43.:10:45.

I knew it was genetic but I've always thought,

:10:46.:10:51.

"It won't happen to me. I'll be fine.

:10:52.:10:53.

I don't want to know. If it happens, it happens.

:10:54.:10:55.

But then I had him and it completely changed everything.

:10:56.:10:59.

I've done the blood tests and they said come

:11:00.:11:02.

He said it came back positive for the gene.

:11:03.:11:19.

I couldn't tell you what he said or what anyone

:11:20.:11:21.

said for about a minute and a half, two minutes.

:11:22.:11:24.

I don't know what happened in that couple of minutes.

:11:25.:11:28.

I just remember sitting there and I think I was staring

:11:29.:11:31.

at a part of the room and I was completely dazed.

:11:32.:11:34.

Freddie popped into my head and I just went, "OK,

:11:35.:11:36.

This is about a gene that you now have a 50-50 chance

:11:37.:11:48.

What are your fears for him and how will you tell him

:11:49.:11:59.

what he potentially could face and what is going to

:12:00.:12:01.

You went through that with your own father.

:12:02.:12:10.

Well, my ultimate biggest fear is that he gets the gene.

:12:11.:12:13.

I couldn't bear to see him going through it,

:12:14.:12:17.

Secondly, my next biggest fear is not being able

:12:18.:12:23.

For him to know that I might not be there is heartbreaking.

:12:24.:12:34.

So I think I'm going to make him aware of what this is but obviously

:12:35.:12:38.

I don't want to ruin everything too early, especially if he

:12:39.:12:40.

You don't show any symptoms at present.

:12:41.:12:47.

Do you know when they could start if medical trials don't work?

:12:48.:12:55.

The best they can go by is when my dad started

:12:56.:12:57.

Hence my whole "I've got about 15 years".

:12:58.:13:09.

Since your diagnosis, you are only 26 now,

:13:10.:13:14.

but have you found yourself checking your own behaviour?

:13:15.:13:16.

I mean every time I forget something, the panic

:13:17.:13:22.

I have to say, "Look, you've got a one-year-old,

:13:23.:13:30.

What does the future hold for you now you have this diagnosis?

:13:31.:13:36.

I'm living life like I only have 15 years left but not in a negative

:13:37.:13:50.

I don't want it to be, "Oh, you know, I've got loads of time,"

:13:51.:14:00.

So the future for me, I'm going to split my time

:14:01.:14:04.

between fundraising and awareness for this because this is such

:14:05.:14:06.

I'm living it as normal as I can at the minute.

:14:07.:14:17.

Let's speak to Jayde Green now and also Dr Clare Walton

:14:18.:14:21.

out research for the Alzheimer's Society.

:14:22.:14:24.

Hello. Hello. Hello. Jayde do you know how rare this gene mutation is?

:14:25.:14:36.

It is extremely rare. There is 500 families across the UK... Worldwide.

:14:37.:14:43.

That are affected by the three default genes that can cause early

:14:44.:14:48.

onset Alzheimer's so it is extremely rare. There is only a couple of

:14:49.:14:54.

families in the UK. Really? How do you live your life in terms of

:14:55.:14:58.

knowing as you said in the film, you have got 15 years. Well, instead of

:14:59.:15:05.

saying I've only got 15 years, I look at the medical progress, it can

:15:06.:15:11.

come so far in 15 years so I'm looking at I have got 15 years

:15:12.:15:14.

something could happen easily. Yes. And 15 years is a long time. It is

:15:15.:15:18.

when you look at it differently like my son for example he will only be

:15:19.:15:23.

15, 15, 16 by the time that that hits, but as far as anything else, I

:15:24.:15:27.

feel lucky that I have got this time that my dad didn't have to do

:15:28.:15:31.

something about it. Yes. Positively. Sometimes do you find that you're

:15:32.:15:36.

thinking about waiting for the symptoms or are you just cracking

:15:37.:15:40.

on? At the minute I'm just cracking on. I think just because I know it's

:15:41.:15:45.

there doesn't mean that all of a sudden this is going to start

:15:46.:15:49.

happening. They specifically said nothing changes, you have had the

:15:50.:15:54.

gene since you were born. You know, and the symptoms aren't going to

:15:55.:16:00.

start to hit until X age like 42. I'm just cracking on and doing what

:16:01.:16:04.

I can. I get paranoid if I forget something. Do you wish you didn't

:16:05.:16:09.

know? No. you did not know? No, absolutely not, I was determined to

:16:10.:16:15.

find out. What about siblings? They were not so crazy about finding out

:16:16.:16:21.

but in light of what I'm doing now, to raise awareness, that has pushed

:16:22.:16:24.

them to think, actually, I need to know.

:16:25.:16:27.

You could live with not knowing, but it depends upon what you want to do

:16:28.:16:34.

with your life. The nature of your personality, as well. And you are

:16:35.:16:39.

doing fundraising? Yes, I'm doing a walk, in October, a memory walk, and

:16:40.:16:48.

I have put together an event that happened last week and I am doing

:16:49.:16:55.

everything I can. Let me read you this, from Shipley: excellent film

:16:56.:17:02.

about dementia on your programme, your openness, says this viewer,

:17:03.:17:06.

about the future, shows amazing courage and is truly inspirational.

:17:07.:17:14.

Well... I'm hoping that whatever happens, even though I have been hit

:17:15.:17:19.

with this, it will not change how I live my life with him and my family.

:17:20.:17:24.

Hopefully, it will raise awareness on Rafael early-onset dementia in

:17:25.:17:28.

young people. Claire, let's talk about this, Jade knows, the testing

:17:29.:17:35.

suggests, she is going to get early-onset Alzheimer's, there is no

:17:36.:17:37.

symptoms, there is no dementia symptoms. There may not be for a

:17:38.:17:43.

while. Yeah, dementia is kind of the umbrella term, describing symptoms.

:17:44.:17:49.

Memory loss, problems with thinking, potential problems with language,

:17:50.:17:52.

and progressive, gets worse every time. Jade has been diagnosed with a

:17:53.:17:57.

gene that mean she will develop Alzheimer's at some point but she

:17:58.:18:00.

will not have dementia until she begins to develop the symptoms.

:18:01.:18:05.

Understood. This particular gene, it's to do with how the brain

:18:06.:18:11.

produces sticky... Explained this...? You get a build-up of

:18:12.:18:19.

amyloid in the brain, and those sticky plaques kill brain cells, it

:18:20.:18:24.

is the death of brain cells that cause dementia, the mutation in

:18:25.:18:29.

Jade's family, Christina Lynn won, that is the gene, that means her

:18:30.:18:32.

brain produces more of that amyloid, so it builds up quicker than it

:18:33.:18:38.

would normally and that is why the symptoms come on earlier. Where

:18:39.:18:44.

would you say we are up to, in terms of finding ameliorating the

:18:45.:18:52.

symptoms, a cure for dementia? Research is vital, we have lagged

:18:53.:18:57.

behind for a long time, lots of drug failures, but we are turning a

:18:58.:19:04.

corner. Raising money for research is vital, there is lots of studies

:19:05.:19:07.

going on, especially in families like's jade -- especially in

:19:08.:19:14.

families like jade's, if we can treat people with drugs before they

:19:15.:19:18.

develop symptoms, we have the best chance of preventing the disease, so

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it is families like as taking part that really open up the avenue for

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us to be able to say, what is going on in these really early stages and

:19:27.:19:30.

is there a way that we can remove this amyloid pact or slow them down,

:19:31.:19:34.

so we can slow the disease and stop the dementia symptoms. --

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Presenilin-1. Thank you very much for coming onto the programme. Very

:19:40.:19:41.

nice to meet you. Thank you. This news just in, the Duchess of

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Cambridge is expecting her third child, hooray! Kensington Palace

:19:51.:19:55.

have just announced that, Kate, as you may know her, is expecting her

:19:56.:19:59.

third child. That's just in from Kensington Palace. This statement in

:20:00.:20:05.

a little more detail, the Royal Highness is the Duke and Duchess of

:20:06.:20:09.

Cambridge are very pleased to announce their third child, the

:20:10.:20:12.

Queen and members of both families are delighted with the news, as with

:20:13.:20:15.

previous two pregnancies, the Duchess is suffering from, I don't

:20:16.:20:21.

how to pronounce this, and I should do, it is really bad morning

:20:22.:20:24.

sickness anyway, her Royal Highness will no longer carry out planned

:20:25.:20:31.

engagements at the Hornsey Road centre in London today, the Duchess

:20:32.:20:34.

is being looked after at Kensington Palace. Pretty severe morning

:20:35.:20:38.

sickness again, just like with George and Charlotte. That is the

:20:39.:20:46.

little girl's name, Charlotte? Yeah. William and Kate having another

:20:47.:20:51.

baby. Hooray! Everybody is very happy. Kensington Palace and the

:20:52.:20:54.

Queen, members of both families are also really delighted. Coming up: a

:20:55.:21:01.

model who sparked a row after saying that all white people benefit from

:21:02.:21:06.

racism. She is here to talk about her comments and to talk about the

:21:07.:21:10.

horrific online abuse, including death threats, that she has received

:21:11.:21:15.

over the last week. We will speak live with her before 11am.

:21:16.:21:20.

United States says it is ready to use its nuclear capabilities to

:21:21.:21:30.

defend itself and its allies against threats from North Korea.

:21:31.:21:38.

The White House issued the statement following a phone conversation

:21:39.:21:40.

between President Trump and the Japanese prime

:21:41.:21:42.

It was made in response to North Korea's sixth,

:21:43.:21:45.

This is what we know about the test so far.

:21:46.:23:13.

We are going to speak with our war correspondent, about the news that

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the Duchess of Cambridge is expecting her third baby. Hello.

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Third child on the way, Kate has the same serious morning sickness

:23:33.:23:34.

against yellow and I suspect the announcement today was not as they

:23:35.:23:37.

would have planned, in the same way they were not able to plan the

:23:38.:23:41.

announcement of the first or second, the fact she once again has acute

:23:42.:23:47.

morning sickness has meant that she has had to cancel an event she was

:23:48.:23:52.

at today, and with that cancellation they have had to explain it is

:23:53.:23:55.

hyperemesis gravidarum once again and so they are announcing that she

:23:56.:23:58.

is pregnant with their third child and she will not be seen in public

:23:59.:24:05.

for a period of time. She will be recovering from hyperemesis

:24:06.:24:08.

gravidarum. What is striking about this pregnancy, with the first, she

:24:09.:24:13.

went into hospital, now, they will be very much hoping they can treat

:24:14.:24:17.

her with the privacy of being behind palace walls, at home.

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STUDIO: Remind us of the age gap between the two children she has so

:24:21.:24:27.

far, George has just started primary school. That was another event where

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we were meant to be seeing the Duchess of Cambridge, Kate, on

:24:34.:24:38.

Thursday, at Prince George's first day at school, she would be keen to

:24:39.:24:41.

do that, depends upon how well she is or is not. Big day in his life,

:24:42.:24:49.

and also, the other key thing, third child, even if under changes in

:24:50.:24:53.

recent law, even if he was or is a boy, he will not overtake Princess

:24:54.:24:58.

Charlotte in the line of succession, now she will remain where she is

:24:59.:25:01.

stop the birth of their third child will push Prince Harry further down

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the order of succession, I don't think that is something that overly

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worries Prince Harry(!) LAUGHTER Indeed. And everybody is really

:25:12.:25:16.

happy, the Queen is delighted, and the middle film family as well. The

:25:17.:25:20.

palace are put out a short statement. -- Middleton family.

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Everyone delighted with the news. South Korea and Japan have agreed

:25:24.:25:36.

to push for more powerful United Nations sanctions

:25:37.:25:39.

against Pyongyang at an emergency meeting

:25:40.:25:40.

of the Security Council on Monday. Earlier South Korea said its forces

:25:41.:25:42.

had carried out a live-fire ballistic missile exercise

:25:43.:25:45.

in response to the Let's talk to Jihyun Park, a North

:25:46.:25:47.

Korean who escaped the regime. Professor Hazel Smith

:25:48.:25:58.

from the Centre of Korean Studies at The School of Oriental

:25:59.:26:00.

and African Studies John Everard, former British

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ambassador to North Korea Yesterday, we heard the news, I was

:26:03.:26:37.

shocked at that moment. Worried for the people inside North Korea and

:26:38.:26:44.

South Korea. Inside North Korea, there is no electricity since the

:26:45.:26:48.

early 1990s, many North Korean people did not hear any news.

:26:49.:26:52.

Outside the country... They do not know what has happened outside the

:26:53.:27:01.

country. And so I think about my relatives and the people in North

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Korea. Professor, how dangerous a situation are we in now, do you

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think? Well, there is a number of different areas of risk and one

:27:12.:27:15.

which hardly ever gets mentioned, you have a developing nuclear

:27:16.:27:20.

programme with very few checks and balances over safety and quality is

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Oren 's. A very serious nuclear accident in Japan, one of the most

:27:27.:27:30.

developed countries in the world, so it is difficult to see how North

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Korea's safety record, which is not good in the rest of its economy!...

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Could be better in the nuclear industry. It is not improve matters.

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They continue to defy international law, the UN Security Council has

:27:50.:27:53.

insisted that this is unacceptable, and as the UN Security Council is

:27:54.:28:01.

the Primate of international law, the DPRK, North Korea, is simply

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ignoring it. And it is dangerous as well because even if none of the

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parties want to go to war, you only have to have a conflict and a

:28:11.:28:14.

dispute in maritime border between South Korea, which we have seen

:28:15.:28:17.

before, or an incident on the border, between North and South

:28:18.:28:22.

Korea, and in this rather see bright atmosphere, where the rhetoric is

:28:23.:28:25.

very high, where nobody seems to want to engage and to give anything,

:28:26.:28:32.

the real worry is escalation. -- this rather febrile atmosphere. This

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e-mail from John: please do ask, what is their endgame, I don't

:28:41.:28:44.

understand their behaviour. They have said very clearly what the

:28:45.:28:48.

endgame is, we always say that North Korea is secretive, sometimes it is

:28:49.:28:52.

but very often the problem is it says clearly what it wants to do and

:28:53.:28:55.

the world has tried not to listen. The endgame is, a usable and

:28:56.:29:01.

credible nuclear deterrent that they can threaten to other to rate the

:29:02.:29:05.

United States city, which they believe will keep the United States

:29:06.:29:10.

off their back. And, they can use this also as a sword as well as a

:29:11.:29:14.

shield, in their words, in their efforts, eventually, to liberate, as

:29:15.:29:23.

they put it, South Korea. How should the West approach this? This is the

:29:24.:29:27.

question, and frankly there are no good answers. More sanctions will

:29:28.:29:30.

only work if China can be brought fully on board, which is frankly

:29:31.:29:36.

unlikely, China has made clear that it is much more worried about a

:29:37.:29:39.

collapse of North Korea refugee flooding across the board, and a

:29:40.:29:47.

peninsular rear reunited under a pro American government than it is about

:29:48.:29:51.

the nuclear programme. Military option is not good, risk of wider

:29:52.:29:54.

conflict, conflict involving nuclear weapons perhaps, which most people

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will shudder at. Diplomacy? We are all in favour of talks but the North

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Koreans have repeatedly said at the highest level, they are not prepared

:30:05.:30:07.

to negotiate the nuclear programme. It takes two to tango, if North

:30:08.:30:12.

Korea will not talk, diplomacy will probably not get very far. Well...

:30:13.:30:20.

If China, and America, if they got together, could they together

:30:21.:30:24.

fashion some sort of pressure upon North Korea? Washington has been

:30:25.:30:28.

trying to do this for a very long time, Beijing has made clear it has

:30:29.:30:33.

no intention of them in along with that. Statements from China and even

:30:34.:30:37.

the statement that was made when the United Nations agouti Council passed

:30:38.:30:41.

its leash latest sanctions, made clear they think the sanctions are

:30:42.:30:46.

not a means to an end, and they are deeply unhappy about the pressure.

:30:47.:30:51.

-- when the United Nations Security Council passed its latest sanctions.

:30:52.:30:59.

Just to remind you of the breaking news. William and Kate are having a

:31:00.:31:05.

third child. The Queen and members of both families are delighted with

:31:06.:31:09.

the news. As with her previous two pregnancies the duchess is suffering

:31:10.:31:13.

from serious morning sickness. Her Royal Highness will no longer carry

:31:14.:31:18.

out her planned engagement in London today and the duchess is being cared

:31:19.:31:26.

for at Kensington Palace. Do all white people benefit from

:31:27.:31:31.

racism? That's what this model thinks. She has been sacked by

:31:32.:31:36.

L'Oreal as a result. We will speak to her live shortly. The police

:31:37.:31:40.

superintendents' association is warning of the perfect storm facing

:31:41.:31:44.

England and Wales' police forces. We will hear from them before 11am.

:31:45.:31:48.

Here is Rebecca with a summary of the news.

:31:49.:31:52.

Thank you. As Victoria was saying the Duchess of Cambridge is

:31:53.:32:00.

expecting her third child. The announcement came from ken sing toll

:32:01.:32:04.

palace in the last few minutes. It said the Queen and members of both

:32:05.:32:07.

families are delighted with the news. The statement says that as

:32:08.:32:11.

with her previous two pregnancies the duchess is suffering from a

:32:12.:32:13.

severe form of morning sickness. President Trump has warned

:32:14.:32:17.

the United States is ready to use its nuclear capabilities

:32:18.:32:20.

in defending itself, and its allies, His comments come as the United

:32:21.:32:23.

Nations prepares for an emergency session to discuss the regime's

:32:24.:32:28.

claims of a successful nuclear South Korea has responded to

:32:29.:32:30.

Pyongyang's nuclear test by staging Workers at two McDonald's

:32:31.:32:39.

restaurants are walking out today in the first strike to affect

:32:40.:32:47.

the company in Britain. About 40 staff in Cambridge

:32:48.:32:50.

and south-east London, are demanding higher pay and more

:32:51.:32:52.

secure working hours. McDonald's says the dispute relates

:32:53.:32:54.

to internal grievance procedures, and those involved represent

:32:55.:32:59.

just one hundredth of 1% Scientists have developed a camera

:33:00.:33:02.

that can see through the human body. The device has been designed to help

:33:03.:33:10.

doctors track medical tools, known as endoscopes,

:33:11.:33:13.

during internal examinations. Until now, medics have had to rely

:33:14.:33:14.

on expensive scans, such as X-rays, That's a summary of the latest

:33:15.:33:17.

news, join me for BBC Maria Sharapova has been knocked out

:33:18.:33:28.

of tennis's US Open. She was beaten in the fourth

:33:29.:33:45.

round by Anastasia It's Sharapova's first Grand Slam

:33:46.:33:47.

since returning from a drugs ban. Petra Kvitova is through

:33:48.:33:50.

to the quarter-finals A fourth world title

:33:51.:33:52.

is Lewis Hamilton's aim after he took the outright lead

:33:53.:33:58.

at the top of Formula One's world championship standings

:33:59.:34:01.

for the first time this season. Hamilton won the Italian Grand Prix

:34:02.:34:03.

to move three points clear Britain's Chris Froome

:34:04.:34:05.

has a rest day today after increasing his

:34:06.:34:11.

overall lead to one minute and one second

:34:12.:34:12.

after stage 15 of the race. Jordan Henderson will captain

:34:13.:34:19.

England for tonight's World Cup A win will leave them

:34:20.:34:21.

on the verge of qualifying Northern Ireland and Scotland play

:34:22.:34:25.

tonight. Policing in England and Wales

:34:26.:34:35.

is facing a "perfect storm" due to staff shortages

:34:36.:34:37.

and gradually rising crime. The president of the Police

:34:38.:34:40.

Superintendents' Association of England and Wales is warning that

:34:41.:34:43.

policing services are routinely based on fewer people working more

:34:44.:34:46.

hours and days and that such a model Since 2010 police have seen

:34:47.:34:49.

budget cuts of almost 20%, but the growth of cyber-crime

:34:50.:34:55.

and fraud has seen We can speak to Gavin Thomas,

:34:56.:34:58.

president of the Police Superintendents' Association,

:34:59.:35:07.

who is making these stark warnings Calum Macleod from

:35:08.:35:10.

the Police Federation which represents rank

:35:11.:35:13.

and Leroy Logan who is himself a retired superintendent

:35:14.:35:15.

and still works with Gavin Thomas tell us why it is a

:35:16.:35:27.

perfect storm? The reason why I'm saying it is a perfect storm and

:35:28.:35:30.

what you have just articulated is not new. The service has been saying

:35:31.:35:37.

this for a number of years. But my association has just done a

:35:38.:35:42.

resilience survey and the results are quite stark. 50% of my

:35:43.:35:45.

colleagues that took part in the survey show signs of anxiety and

:35:46.:35:50.

over a quarter signs of depression. Now that in itself is worrying. Bear

:35:51.:35:55.

in mind over 70% of my colleagues across England and Wales took part

:35:56.:35:58.

in the survey. So exactly the point you made, if we continue with the

:35:59.:36:02.

model we have at the moment and we don't look after the people within

:36:03.:36:06.

the service itself something is going to give. That's the reason why

:36:07.:36:10.

I'm saying we have a perfect storm. Right. But we know that gradually

:36:11.:36:16.

crime has been falling and it has been for a number of years. There

:36:17.:36:22.

was, there is a spike in fraud and cybercrime which started to be

:36:23.:36:25.

included in the British Crime Survey. I mean, do you accept that?

:36:26.:36:35.

Let me challenge that and let me describe the context around this is.

:36:36.:36:40.

Traditional conventional crime which we understand, you're right has gone

:36:41.:36:45.

down in many of the crime types are at a 30 year low, but we have seen

:36:46.:36:50.

spikes in violent crime up 18%, sexual offences have increased. On

:36:51.:36:54.

the other side we are seeing now a huge rise in what I would term crime

:36:55.:37:01.

of the 21st century and the Office of National Statistics are

:37:02.:37:03.

recording, I think, what is the new volume in crime which policing is

:37:04.:37:06.

having to face now with limited resources. And then in the middle,

:37:07.:37:10.

is what I would term the vulnerability.

:37:11.:37:15.

Right, Calum McLeod, do you agree about this perfect storm scenario?

:37:16.:37:19.

Not exactly. I agree with the sentiment behind it, but we have

:37:20.:37:25.

been saying since 2010 that the cuts that are unsustainable, we are not

:37:26.:37:29.

in... That's not true, is it? We're seven years in and it is

:37:30.:37:33.

sustainable. Crime is falling. If you look at the individuals that are

:37:34.:37:36.

fulfilling the service to the public, you are seeing spikes in

:37:37.:37:40.

crime now of the traditional crime we were talking about a minute ago.

:37:41.:37:47.

We are seeing crimes of greatest public concern on the rise. You have

:37:48.:37:51.

got victims of crime that are not receiving a great service because of

:37:52.:37:56.

the number of cuts we have had. Individuals from policing are

:37:57.:37:58.

suffering. Their mental health is suffering. We have got data has said

:37:59.:38:05.

that eight out of ten of our colleagues, who we represent are

:38:06.:38:09.

suffering from stress, anxiety and 90% of that put it done to the

:38:10.:38:13.

circumstances they face just now in policing.

:38:14.:38:20.

Leroy Logan, do you come across superintendents who are anxious, who

:38:21.:38:23.

are depressed because they don't feel they have got the resources to

:38:24.:38:29.

do their job properly? I am doing a lot of work with officers, not so

:38:30.:38:32.

many superintendents, but a lot of personal friends who are

:38:33.:38:35.

superintendents and we have lost a couple of really star officers

:38:36.:38:41.

because of the pressure of work because in 2009 I don't normally,

:38:42.:38:50.

this I don't normally come with props. This is a questionnaire. I do

:38:51.:38:55.

not want to be seen as weak and calling out for help would be seen

:38:56.:39:01.

as a weakness and I wouldn't be selected for further ranks or

:39:02.:39:04.

specialism. Before, people wouldn't talk about it and we lose people

:39:05.:39:09.

who, unfortunately, have broken down or become ill or have haven't become

:39:10.:39:19.

the leaders they should be because they are not functioning. We asked

:39:20.:39:24.

someone from the Home Office to take part and gave us a statement.

:39:25.:39:32.

"Crimes traditionally measured by the independent Crime Survey

:39:33.:39:34.

for England and Wales have fallen by well over a third since 2010

:39:35.:39:37.

and overall police funding has been protected in real terms

:39:38.:39:40.

That maybe the case, but what I'm saying is and I am sure the

:39:41.:39:47.

federation will say the same, we are dealing with human volumes of

:39:48.:39:53.

demand. Not just on crime as I mentioned earlier, vulnerability,

:39:54.:39:58.

missing persons, missing children, child sexual exploitation, child

:39:59.:40:03.

sexual abuse. Something which we are having to manage and deal with now.

:40:04.:40:08.

And one of the things I have been calling for today is I want to a

:40:09.:40:15.

constructive, open and transparent debate, a review of what we want

:40:16.:40:18.

from our police service in the 21st century and what policing should not

:40:19.:40:22.

be doing and how we structure and resource the service going into the

:40:23.:40:25.

future. I don't think it is sustainable in terms of our approach

:40:26.:40:29.

of the lex con of different approaches and different

:40:30.:40:34.

collaborations we have got, over 43 different organisations and forces.

:40:35.:40:38.

There are some aspects of policing that don't respect boundaries and

:40:39.:40:40.

don't respect jurisdictions. Thank you.

:40:41.:40:45.

Breaking news which we brought you about 15 minutes ago that the

:40:46.:40:50.

Duchess of Cambridge is having another baby. She is pregnant again

:40:51.:40:55.

and everybody is really happy. It is their third child. William and

:40:56.:41:00.

Kate's third child. Like with her previous two pregnancies, Kate has

:41:01.:41:06.

really bad morning sickness. CP tweets, "Wonderful news. I hope the

:41:07.:41:10.

duchess will be doing well and not played with this illness too long."

:41:11.:41:15.

Adam says, "Congratulations." Another viewer says "This sickness

:41:16.:41:20.

is awful." Sandra, "Best news ever." An e-mail from John,

:41:21.:41:23.

"Congratulations to Kate and will qam. ".

:41:24.:41:31.

"Once white people begin to admit that their race is the most violent

:41:32.:41:34.

and oppressive force of nature on earth, then we can talk"

:41:35.:41:36.

the words which saw model Munroe Bergdorf sacked

:41:37.:41:39.

After the events in Charlottesville in the United States,

:41:40.:41:43.

the make-up brand's first trans model, took to facebook

:41:44.:41:47.

the make-up brand's first trans model, took to Facebook

:41:48.:41:49.

to address what she sees as systemic racism in society.

:41:50.:41:51.

But L'Oreal - who had just hired her - said what she posted

:41:52.:41:54.

was at odds with their policies of tolerance and diversity

:41:55.:41:57.

Munroe Bergdorf is here and we can speak to her now.

:41:58.:42:01.

Hello. Hello. This is what you wrote on Facebook. I will read the words

:42:02.:42:06.

so our viewers know. "Honestly I don't have the energy to talk about

:42:07.:42:10.

racial violence of white people anymore. Yes, all white people

:42:11.:42:15.

because most of you don't even realise or refuse to acknowledge

:42:16.:42:18.

that your existence, privilege and success as a race is built on the

:42:19.:42:23.

backs, blood and death of people of colour. Your entire existence is

:42:24.:42:30.

drenched in racism." And do you mean all white people

:42:31.:42:35.

because that's what has wound people up? I am speaking about

:42:36.:42:39.

socialisation, I'm speaking about how society conditions us to believe

:42:40.:42:45.

certain things. So, to a certain extent we are socialised to believe

:42:46.:42:50.

that men are dominant and women are submissive and we live in a

:42:51.:42:57.

homophobic society that's only started to change. There are these

:42:58.:43:00.

things that aren't necessarily what we should believe, but they are in

:43:01.:43:04.

society. But do you believe all white people... I believe there is a

:43:05.:43:09.

structure. Sorry, I was going to finish. Do you believe all white

:43:10.:43:12.

people have taken part in racial violence which is what you wrote? I

:43:13.:43:16.

believe that society is built on the foundation, it is not what I

:43:17.:43:19.

believe, it is a fact that society is built on the foundations of

:43:20.:43:25.

colonialism and slavery. In terms of what you wrote, are you standing by

:43:26.:43:30.

all white people and racial violence... By racial violence,

:43:31.:43:40.

that's a nuanced thing. I have microaggressions that people will

:43:41.:43:43.

experience every day. Everything from moving from a black person on a

:43:44.:43:47.

bus to... I understand that. But are you saying all white people are

:43:48.:43:51.

guilty of that? I'm not saying all white people are guilty of it, but

:43:52.:43:55.

all white people benefit from racism with white privilege if you are not

:43:56.:44:00.

dismantling racism and not going to pull people up from the bottom of

:44:01.:44:04.

the pyramid to the top then you are participating and benefiting from

:44:05.:44:07.

racism. You didn't write that, but what you wrote... I did write that,

:44:08.:44:12.

but it was taken out of context. These are the sentences you that you

:44:13.:44:19.

wrote, "I don't have the energy to talk about racial violence of white

:44:20.:44:25.

people a all white people." The text had two book ends. This screen shot

:44:26.:44:28.

was sent to the Daily Mail by somebody that I know and it was in

:44:29.:44:35.

response to sharl lots vil. It was in response to this white

:44:36.:44:43.

supremacist rally. Could you have worded it better? It is a passionate

:44:44.:44:47.

thing and it is a very emotional thing and I'm not going to sensor

:44:48.:44:54.

myself for my feelings... No one would want you to sensor yourself.

:44:55.:44:58.

This is the problem that white people are thinking about how it

:44:59.:45:01.

makes them feel when racism doesn't affect them. It affects people of

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colour. The system is not in place to affect white people and white

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people need to get over the fact, yes it is a really uncomfortable

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truth, it is a really inconvenient truth. Get over that, and get over

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that discomfort. Think about how it makes us feel... If a white person

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made a sweeping generalalisation about a black person... White

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people, celebrities said the same thing I said and no one came after

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her... If a white person... There is not a system in place to oppress

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white people. That doesn't exist. not a system in place to oppress

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white people, it does not exist. That white person would be

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criticised. It would be an individual instance, there is not a

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system in place to affect white people's chances of gaining credit,

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housing, gaining equal pay, all of these things that are in place to

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affect people of colour from being equal, we do not live in an equal

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society. If people accept your premise, that white people benefit

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from racism, what should all of those white people do? Start

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listening, which is the problem I have come across, and I have done

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some other interviews, and it is constantly, over and over, well, I

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have, I have, I do not have, I do not have, people need to stop

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thinking about it on an individual basis, we are talking about

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everyone. Just because you do not feel privileged, does not mean that

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if you are a black person or a South Asians person, exactly the same as

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who you are now, you would have less chances of getting out of the

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situation you do not feel privileged in. What should white people do?

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Listen to people of colour and our experiences and ask how we can help.

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When something happens, check in with people, when you see people

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being killed by police in America, check in with people, see what you

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can do, donate time to charities. You made bat me away when I talk

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about this individual, because they are an individual, Heather Hayer,

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the woman killed in Charlottesville, are you saying that she benefited

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from racism? No, she gave her life. This is the racial violence I'm

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talking about, when people try to combat racism, it brings out

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violence, you have seen it from the response I have had on the Internet.

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You cannot bring up racism without causing a rock is, because it brings

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up violence. You have had death threats... Rape threats, people

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threatening to find me and beat me up, people have called my phone and

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breathing heavily, I have heard numerous e-mails to say, urging me

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to kill myself. To be honest, it is getting worse and worse all the time

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but there is no way I can do anything about it, I should not have

:48:13.:48:17.

to deal with that for basically speaking about basic racial theory

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and feminism. Are you going to the police? I don't think there is

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anything I can do... If someone is threatening to kill you... If you

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saw the sheer amount, it has been every five seconds, every five

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seconds, this has been world news, it is not something that should be

:48:36.:48:38.

world news, I should not be sacked for calling out racism when I was in

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a campaign that was meant to be championing diversity. Especially

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when I was speaking about the violence of white people but then

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they have got the face, they have got Cheryl Cole, on the campaign,

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she was convicted for actively punching a black woman in the face,

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I don't understand how I am not in line with their values but they will

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hire Cheryl Cole, over and over again, give her more chances, she

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has been convicted for punching a black woman in the face. Though she

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deserve a second chance? If you are going to put a woman who punched a

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black woman in the face forward as the face of diversity, that says a

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lot about white privilege. John says: we are correct, we do not live

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in an equal society, we never have, we never will. See how this news

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reporter is trying to twist what Munro is saying, according to one

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viewer, you cannot sit here and act like she's not telling the truth. It

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is an inconvenient truth, and God knows I wish racism did not exist.

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White people, all of us, allow racism to continue. Kezia says, I am

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so glad that we are talking about this, Munro Bergdorf is 100% right.

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I know that other people are saying other stuff, I'm not the first

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person to say it, I think maybe, this is a blessing in disguise, if

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we can have a conversation, I am not going to shut up and give into

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people threatening me with things. This proves my point, proves exactly

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what I am saying to be true. It cannot have a go at me for saying

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the violence of all white people... The only people that are insulting

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me and coming on my page and trolling me are white people. It is

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not people of colour. How do you know they are all white? From the

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pictures. Thank you the having me, thank you for coming on the

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programme. More now on the news that the Duke

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and Duchess of Cambridge are having their third baby, we can speak with

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a royal biographer, from her home in Wiltshire. Hello. Your reaction

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first of all? I'm not entirely surprised, both William and Kate

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come from large families... Kate is one of three. I think it is not

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surprising that she should want a third baby, and maybe even a fourth.

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We are told she has the same serious morning sickness she had in her

:51:25.:51:27.

previous two pregnancies, remind us how debilitating that is, and it was

:51:28.:51:37.

for her. It was devastating for her, and the circumstances I am surprised

:51:38.:51:40.

she has done it again, but it is a really good thing, it may go one

:51:41.:51:50.

rung down the order, but it does mean in the future there will be

:51:51.:51:53.

more members of the family who will be actively working for the family,

:51:54.:51:59.

for the family firm, and they are a bit thin on the ground at the

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moment, but with the work that they do, the charitable causes, it is

:52:03.:52:07.

usually important. So I think it is a good thing she is having a third

:52:08.:52:10.

and putting up with the morning sickness. Thank you very much.

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More comments about Munro Bergdorf, this tweet: stop trying to lead her

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on questions about racism, it exists, end of, if you are not

:52:26.:52:28.

addressing it you are part of the problem. Jim says, if you do not

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protest about racism in society, you are complicit and part of the

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problem. I don't know the context in which this was said but it is

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logically on point in the same way that conversely, all black people

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benefit from antiracism, it may seem provocative, a cursory air will hear

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that all white people are racist but Munroe Bergdorf has highlighted

:52:52.:52:55.

practices which are entrenched. We have lived in a radicalised system

:52:56.:52:59.

denied only by supporters and beneficiaries. From a position of

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racial dominance, any self-imposed detraction from that may to some at

:53:04.:53:08.

a very visceral level prove an anathema.

:53:09.:53:13.

We'll clean Rooney stand by her husband? Police have called

:53:14.:53:18.

drink-driving, another woman was in the car. -- will Colleen Rooney.

:53:19.:53:24.

Wayne Rooney has had other indiscretions in his marriage. She

:53:25.:53:32.

is pregnant with her fourth child. We can speak with Caroline frost, a

:53:33.:53:38.

showbiz reporter. And a divorce barrister is also joining us. John

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Oxley, as a divorce lawyer, what would you suggest? Coleen Rooney

:53:49.:53:51.

needs to think about what you want to happen, always very much up to a

:53:52.:53:57.

client, to think about whether they want to initiate divorce proceedings

:53:58.:54:00.

or whether there is something in this marriage that can be salvaged,

:54:01.:54:04.

and if it will be salvaged, on what terms, what do she need to see, what

:54:05.:54:08.

commitments that she needed see from Wayne Rooney to make that work for

:54:09.:54:14.

both of them. How messy can a divorce be, when one party is very

:54:15.:54:18.

wealthy, or does that make it rather simple? It makes it complicated, you

:54:19.:54:23.

have to assess their wealth, but the big thing that defines it is, how

:54:24.:54:28.

much they cooperate. A lot of the time, people will be open with

:54:29.:54:32.

disclosure, saying, this is what I have, this is what it is worth, it

:54:33.:54:36.

comes down to looking at the law and looking how to divide that. Other

:54:37.:54:40.

people try to be more devious, they move money abroad, they hide their

:54:41.:54:45.

assets, famously, if you years ago, the case of Scott young, who spent a

:54:46.:54:49.

decade hiding assets from his wife, sentenced to prison, passport

:54:50.:54:57.

removed. And still, the wife had to pursue him through the courts. Where

:54:58.:55:04.

are you on this? What happens is, we watch these players, these

:55:05.:55:07.

gladiatorial Amazonian warriors on the pitch and then we are horrified/

:55:08.:55:13.

secretly delighted when they prove incapable of parking their Volvo on

:55:14.:55:16.

their drive and walking their labrador in their downtime, it

:55:17.:55:19.

should not come as any surprise that Wayne Rooney has proven once again

:55:20.:55:24.

to have lapses of judgment, we know that he retired from his

:55:25.:55:27.

international career last week, emotional time for him. People have

:55:28.:55:32.

leakages, they revert to type. His wife was away on holiday, he has hit

:55:33.:55:36.

the bars, this is the inevitable outcome. What should Coleen Rooney

:55:37.:55:44.

do? Not even the most diligent show business reporter can get under the

:55:45.:55:47.

kitchen table at the moment, however, I would say to any woman,

:55:48.:55:52.

ignore well-meaning advisers, ignore trolls... For every one person

:55:53.:55:58.

saying it is hurtful for being away, we have outgrown that, there is a

:55:59.:56:01.

huge wealth of sympathy for her on social media. I would say, to ignore

:56:02.:56:07.

it, follow your instincts, and take advice from people whose interests

:56:08.:56:10.

you know are in your corner of the ring. Coleen Rooney has tweeted

:56:11.:56:15.

asking photographers to give her some privacy. To back off. How

:56:16.:56:24.

likely is that to happen? As I say, a certain amount of sympathy for

:56:25.:56:28.

her, clearly a victim in this love triangle that has been presented to

:56:29.:56:32.

the waiting British press. However, I think she and her husband have

:56:33.:56:36.

benefited from over a decade of press attention. She has had DVDs,

:56:37.:56:41.

all sorts of things come her way I virtue of her position as one of the

:56:42.:56:46.

premier wives and girlfriends but I think the press are a little more

:56:47.:56:49.

attentive to their own brand, how they are perceived, in the wake of

:56:50.:56:56.

the 20th anniversary of the death of Diana, Princess of Wales, so nobody,

:56:57.:57:00.

no editor wants to declare open season on Coleen Rooney. Final

:57:01.:57:07.

thought, is it a trend away from divorce barristers, divorce lawyers,

:57:08.:57:12.

these days, for people doing it themselves? That for a lot of people

:57:13.:57:17.

has become trend because of the reduction of legal aid. For a couple

:57:18.:57:20.

like this they will need expert advice, absolutely essential, this

:57:21.:57:25.

is not the sort of thing you can really do yourself. What I imagine

:57:26.:57:28.

they will be considering is, rather than going to court, going to

:57:29.:57:34.

arbitration, which is the thing that is in trend for high-value cases

:57:35.:57:38.

now, where you pay a retired judge to come up with legal, come up with

:57:39.:57:42.

a legal binding settlement. Arbitration means excluding the

:57:43.:57:46.

press, excluding everyone, getting it done behind closed doors, it is

:57:47.:57:50.

not the big court showdown which I think both of these people, if they

:57:51.:57:52.

go to divorce, will want to avoid. More comments from you about Munroe

:57:53.:58:05.

Bergdorf's comments, " so glad she got to speak the truth". Beth says,

:58:06.:58:12.

eloquent and educated. Highlighting real issues in a non-aggressive way,

:58:13.:58:19.

and L'Oreal should reconsider. On the programme tomorrow, sex workers

:58:20.:58:22.

tell us that current legislation is putting their lives at risk. That is

:58:23.:58:24.

tomorrow, 9am. Have a good day. Owen Quine - he's a very famous

:58:25.:58:35.

and good novelist. He's gone off before,

:58:36.:58:37.

only this time it's been ten days. I'm an investigator.

:58:38.:58:41.

His wife's very worried for him. Owen has written a very thinly

:58:42.:58:44.

disguised slandering of the people who've tried

:58:45.:58:47.

to help him. Quine knew a lot of damaging

:58:48.:58:49.

stuff... You're going to have to

:58:50.:58:51.

take on a new investigator.

:58:52.:58:54.

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