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Hello, it's Tuesday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Tina Daheley, | :00:09. | :00:11. | |
Criminal gangs are trafficking thousands of children from London | :00:12. | :00:19. | |
around the country to sell drugs - a leading charity has | :00:20. | :00:22. | |
Kids as young as 12 are used to transport and sell the drugs - | :00:23. | :00:27. | |
a practice known by the police as County Lines, or cuckooing. | :00:28. | :00:30. | |
We've spoken exclusively to two young people | :00:31. | :00:31. | |
It could have led to me being arrested, getting kill, I felt lucky | :00:32. | :00:44. | |
Disabled people are losing out on jobs because a government support | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
scheme, aimed at helping disabled people with physical and mental | :00:49. | :00:51. | |
health conditions work is no longer fit for purpose, | :00:52. | :00:53. | |
campaigners and recipients have told this programme. | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
They say the Access to Work programme is beset by errors, | :00:56. | :00:57. | |
The thought of having to cut my hour, I could feel me shrinking, | :00:58. | :01:13. | |
becoming a small person and feeling quite terrified about what my future | :01:14. | :01:15. | |
In his latest film, Breathe, Andrew Garfield plays | :01:16. | :01:21. | |
Robin Cavendish, who became tethered to a breathing machine in order | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
to stay alive after contracting polio in the 1950s aged just 28. | :01:25. | :01:27. | |
With the love and support of his wife Diana, played by Claire Foy, | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
Robin broke free and changed not only his life, but that of disabled | :01:31. | :01:33. | |
We will be speaking to Diana, and her and Robin's son Jonathan, | :01:34. | :01:37. | |
who is the producer of this moving true story. | :01:38. | :01:45. | |
I don't want to go on living here... What are we waiting for? | :01:46. | :01:59. | |
Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning. | :02:00. | :02:13. | |
Also, as hundreds of teachers, support staff and parents join | :02:14. | :02:16. | |
a mass lobby of parliament today, in a bid to persuade the government | :02:17. | :02:19. | |
to give schools more funding, we talk to parents who say | :02:20. | :02:22. | |
And we'd love to hear what you've got to say - | :02:23. | :02:25. | |
have you been asked to pay for something that used to be | :02:26. | :02:28. | |
Or do you feel the opposite and that your school | :02:29. | :02:32. | |
Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning - | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
use the hashtag Victoria LIVe, and if you text, you will be charged | :02:38. | :02:40. | |
Hospitals in England could carry out 280,000 extra operations a year | :02:41. | :02:53. | |
just by making better use of operating theatres. | :02:54. | :02:55. | |
Analysis by the watchdog NHS Improvement, due | :02:56. | :02:57. | |
out later this week, suggests that an average of 2 hours | :02:58. | :02:59. | |
a day are lost in operating theatres because of late starts | :03:00. | :03:02. | |
Waiting lists for routine operations are growing and there's a continuing | :03:03. | :03:10. | |
debate over whether more money is needed for the NHS or whether it | :03:11. | :03:13. | |
Now analysis by a health regulator seen by the BBC suggests that more | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
patients could be treated in operating theatres. | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
NHS Improvement looked at non-urgent surgery at 100 trusts | :03:23. | :03:25. | |
It says 1.64 million operations were carried out, | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
but an extra 280,000 more could have taken place and on average, | :03:30. | :03:32. | |
there was about 140 minutes of unused operating theatre | :03:33. | :03:34. | |
Reducing late starts, early finishes and last minute | :03:35. | :03:45. | |
cancellations would have made a big difference according to | :03:46. | :03:48. | |
the regulator, but the Royal College of Surgeons says it's | :03:49. | :03:51. | |
I think the NHS can always be more efficient and I think people have | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
worked very hard to try to make it more efficient and I think we should | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
continue to work very hard to make it more efficient, | :04:01. | :04:02. | |
but I don't think those efficiency savings are going to resolve | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
the ever increasing demand that is being put | :04:06. | :04:07. | |
NHS Improvement says it hopes the research will enable hospitals | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
to identify bottlenecks in their system, to ensure | :04:14. | :04:15. | |
operations are scheduled more appropriately and more patients | :04:16. | :04:17. | |
These figures sound pretty bad, what is the full picture? Tina, it is a | :04:18. | :04:42. | |
very varied picture, this analysis by NHS improvement suggests that a | :04:43. | :04:46. | |
lot more operations could be done, but thaw is the average, 280,000 | :04:47. | :04:53. | |
more at 100 trusts that were looked at last year. There are some example | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
of good practise, where they have worked to try to fit in more | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
patient, that is what it is about, patients who have waited a long time | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
for routine surgery and often it is delayed further and yet more | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
operations could carried out but it seems it is down to late start, | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
early finish, often the surgical team system there but the patient | :05:15. | :05:18. | |
isn't ready, hasn't been brought in at the beginning of the operating | :05:19. | :05:22. | |
list or there could be a last minute cancellation and that go back to | :05:23. | :05:25. | |
preparing the patients more. What they are saying is they could do | :05:26. | :05:28. | |
better and there are ways of doing better to maximise the amount of the | :05:29. | :05:34. | |
time they use. What response can we expect? The Royal College of | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
Surgeons was tentative they are anxious not to be seen to be the | :05:39. | :05:43. | |
recipient of criticism, it is not surgeons who are not criticised for | :05:44. | :05:47. | |
working hard enough, they know there could be more efficiency, they are | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
saying it's a wired problem you have beds occupied by medically fit | :05:53. | :05:55. | |
patients and they can't leave because of social care problems so | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
the beds aren't available for the patients coming out of the operating | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
theatres so they say it a wired problem and demand is rising and | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
more money is needed. With all the talk of more money being needed for | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
the NHS, and also could it be more efficient, this is an interesting | :06:12. | :06:15. | |
contribution, waiting lists are rising, it is all about getting | :06:16. | :06:19. | |
patients the care they need. Thank you Huw. | :06:20. | :06:21. | |
Reeta is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary | :06:22. | :06:24. | |
Police in England and Wales have been accused of letting down victims | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
of modern slavery at every stage - in a scathing report | :06:30. | :06:31. | |
The Inspectorate found that cases had been closed without any | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
enquiries being made, and in some instances detectives | :06:36. | :06:37. | |
Police say they fully accept the recommendations in the report | :06:38. | :06:45. | |
The police have got lots of techniques, lots of methods, | :06:46. | :06:48. | |
When they deal with drug dealing, for example, | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
They need to start using the resources they have got and find | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
out who's doing this, who is the master mind behind it | :06:58. | :06:59. | |
We will have more on that few minutes when we hear how children | :07:00. | :07:13. | |
will being exploited and trafficked by gangs. | :07:14. | :07:15. | |
The reporting of crimes such as cyberbullying, | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
trolling and online harassment has increased by 85% in the last two | :07:19. | :07:21. | |
years, according to figures obtained by the BBC. | :07:22. | :07:23. | |
More than 200 malicious communication offences are recorded | :07:24. | :07:25. | |
every day by Police forces in England and Wales, | :07:26. | :07:27. | |
but the officer leading the fight against digital crime says | :07:28. | :07:29. | |
This is live.me, a video streaming app. | :07:30. | :07:43. | |
Victoria from Leeds uses it to chat online, but last year she started | :07:44. | :07:46. | |
Photos of her home were posted online and she was dared to try | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
One user threatened to force himself on her. | :07:51. | :07:53. | |
She was even told "go kill yourself" and her address was posted | :07:54. | :07:56. | |
Like I used to be an outgoing person and now I'm just getting there, | :07:57. | :08:12. | |
With more people using smartphones and social media, police | :08:13. | :08:21. | |
are getting more reports of malicious | :08:22. | :08:23. | |
That can include threats sent by online trolls, | :08:24. | :08:26. | |
abusive text messages, pornographic images | :08:27. | :08:31. | |
Research by the BBC has found more than 200 offences are being recorded | :08:32. | :08:41. | |
by police in England and Wales every day. | :08:42. | :08:43. | |
The number has risen by 85% over the past two years. | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
I think this is the tip of an iceberg. | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
I think as policing and society changes into the digital age, | :08:53. | :08:54. | |
this is only going to increase and providers, government, | :08:55. | :08:57. | |
law enforcement and users all need to get ready how we protect people | :08:58. | :09:00. | |
more effectively and then how we bring the criminals to justice. | :09:01. | :09:02. | |
With the support of her family, Victoria is slowly getting | :09:03. | :09:05. | |
So far no one has been arrested over the threats she received. | :09:06. | :09:17. | |
Disability campaigners have criticised a key government scheme | :09:18. | :09:19. | |
which helps deaf and disabled people in the workplace | :09:20. | :09:21. | |
The scheme provides support for people with disabilities | :09:22. | :09:24. | |
beyond what employers are obliged to do by law. | :09:25. | :09:27. | |
But a new report seen by this programme says Access to Work - | :09:28. | :09:30. | |
once hailed as the most successful programme of its type - | :09:31. | :09:32. | |
is beset by errors, delays and is being hit by a government | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
The Government says it's "committed to supporting disabled people to get | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
A 53-year old man is due in court today charged in connection | :09:40. | :09:53. | |
with an armed siege that lasted 4 hours at a bowling alley in Nuneaton | :09:54. | :09:56. | |
David Clark is charged with false imprisonment, criminal damage, | :09:57. | :10:04. | |
and possessing a blade and an imitation firearm. | :10:05. | :10:08. | |
The President of the European Commission, Jean Claude Juncker, | :10:09. | :10:11. | |
has said that he believes the EU and Britain will reach | :10:12. | :10:14. | |
He's been speaking in the last few minutes in Strasbourg. | :10:15. | :10:21. | |
What should I say about Brexit? I would like to say that the | :10:22. | :10:31. | |
Commission is not negotiating in an hostile mood. We want a deal. Those | :10:32. | :10:36. | |
who don't want a deal, the no dealer, they have no friends in the | :10:37. | :10:41. | |
Commission, we want a fair deal. And we will have a fair deal with | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
Britain. The no deal is not our working assumption. Thank you. | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
A British former assistant of Harvey Weinstein says | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
she was paid ?125,000 to keep quiet after accusing the movie mogul | :10:54. | :10:55. | |
Zelda Perkins told the Financial Times she signed | :10:56. | :10:58. | |
a non-disclosure agreement in 1998 after making the accusations. | :10:59. | :11:00. | |
She said Weinstein asked her to give him massages and tried | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
Weinstein has denied any allegations of non-consensual | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
Two women charged with killing Kim Jong-nam, the half-brother | :11:07. | :11:19. | |
of North Korea's leader, are revisiting the crime | :11:20. | :11:20. | |
Indonesian Siti Aisyah and Vietnamese Doan Thi Huong | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
were at Kuala Lumpur airport on Tuesday. | :11:24. | :11:26. | |
The pair are accused of rubbing the highly toxic VX nerve agent | :11:27. | :11:29. | |
on Mr Kim's face as he waited for a flight. | :11:30. | :11:31. | |
They have pleaded not guilty to murder, saying it was a TV prank | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
and they were tricked by North Korean agents. | :11:35. | :11:42. | |
The Labour MP who defeated Nick Clegg in this year's general | :11:43. | :11:45. | |
election, Jared O'Mara, has apologised for using what's been | :11:46. | :11:47. | |
described as "vile" and "horrendous" language in the past. | :11:48. | :12:00. | |
Mr O'Mara said he was a sexist and homophobic young man | :12:01. | :12:02. | |
when he made the comments posted online in 2002 and 2004, but says | :12:03. | :12:05. | |
He's not been suspended from the party but has stood down | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
from the Women and Equalities Committee. | :12:10. | :12:11. | |
An extremely rare ?1.5 million supercar was badly damaged after it | :12:12. | :12:13. | |
smashed into a crash barrier in West Sussex. | :12:14. | :12:15. | |
The Pagani Zonda, which has a top speed of more than 200mph, | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
crashed on the A27 at Tangmere on Saturday morning. | :12:19. | :12:20. | |
Sussex Police said the driver was not injured but the "one-off" | :12:21. | :12:23. | |
Italian-made car was left with "significant damage". | :12:24. | :12:25. | |
It is thought the car was travelling in a convoy of sports cars | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
at the time and police have appealed for witnesses. | :12:29. | :12:35. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30. | :12:36. | :12:56. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning - | :12:57. | :12:59. | |
use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and if you text, you will be charged | :13:00. | :13:02. | |
Let's get some sport with Jessica Creighton. | :13:03. | :13:05. | |
Jess, Cristiano Ronaldo picked up more silverware last night. | :13:06. | :13:11. | |
Yes, good morning. Ronaldo must be running out of space. As you say | :13:12. | :13:19. | |
another award for the Real Madrid and Portugal star. This time it was | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
the best awards, the best male Player of the Year. Voted for by | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
international player, the coaches, fans and the media. What a year he | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
has had. He has won the Champions League and the cup and league double | :13:34. | :13:39. | |
in Spain, he beat Messi of Barcelona to the award and Neymar of PSG who | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
he thanked in his accept tan speech. Thank you a lot, the guys who are | :13:45. | :13:52. | |
voting on me, I mention Neymar. APPLAUSE | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
I am really glad this is a great moment for me, I know I have fans | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
all over the world, so thank you a lot for the support. | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
APPLAUSE The women's award was won by a Dutch | :14:08. | :14:10. | |
player. They won the European Championships of course this summer | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
and she was the top goal scorer, so very well deserved to her. | :14:15. | :14:19. | |
In terms of British success Celtic won the best fans award. | :14:20. | :14:26. | |
Let us talk jobbed. A few names in the frame for the vacant Everton | :14:27. | :14:33. | |
manager's job. My man whose has kick add football is often linked. We | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
they that David Unsworth in charge of the under 23s will take temporary | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
charge. He has a big first match against the Premier League champions | :14:44. | :14:46. | |
Chelsea, that is in the League Cup tomorrow. Let us look at the other | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
names in the frame. Could there be a return for David Moyes? He had a | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
successful period at the club but a pretty hard time since he left. He | :14:56. | :15:01. | |
is well-known to the fans and the hierarchy, Sean Dyche, another name | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
in the frame. Thought to be one of the hot favourites. He has done a | :15:06. | :15:09. | |
brilliant job at Burnley. They are up to eighth. Sam Allardyce, he | :15:10. | :15:15. | |
didn't last long as England manager just one game, he is known for | :15:16. | :15:20. | |
getting teams out of sticky situations, and finally, Carlo | :15:21. | :15:23. | |
Ancelotti. Probably the biggest name linked to this job. He is a three | :15:24. | :15:26. | |
time Champions League winner and more importantly, he is not in a job | :15:27. | :15:31. | |
at the moment, after leaving Bayern Munich. Whoever takes charge they | :15:32. | :15:35. | |
have a massive it is aing on their hands. Everton are bottom of their | :15:36. | :15:39. | |
group in the Europa League, in the bottom three in the Premier League | :15:40. | :15:42. | |
and they are without a win in five. So whoever comes in has serious work | :15:43. | :15:44. | |
to do. Thousands of children from London | :15:45. | :15:48. | |
are being exploited and trafficked around the country by gangs to sell | :15:49. | :15:54. | |
drugs - that's according The police call this 'county lines' | :15:55. | :15:57. | |
- gangs use children as young as 12 to traffic drugs, | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
using dedicated mobile Speaking to this programme, | :16:02. | :16:03. | |
the government's anti-slavery commissioner has described those | :16:04. | :16:09. | |
figures as "shocking" - and the Home Office has announced | :16:10. | :16:11. | |
a ?300,000 fund to help charities provide support to young people | :16:12. | :16:14. | |
caught up in county lines activity. Last year, the National Crime Agency | :16:15. | :16:17. | |
described it as a 'national problem', with around 70% of forces | :16:18. | :16:19. | |
reporting they were dealing We've been speaking to two former | :16:20. | :16:22. | |
teenage drug runners We've disguised their | :16:23. | :16:25. | |
identities and their voices I got involved through friends, | :16:26. | :16:28. | |
seeing friends come back They were telling me about it like, | :16:29. | :16:33. | |
they were like, "It's an easy way of making | :16:34. | :16:45. | |
money", things like that. Feeling, having a family | :16:46. | :16:47. | |
that you ain't got. Being around people that are older | :16:48. | :16:50. | |
than you and they're Inner-city gangs are using | :16:51. | :16:53. | |
children to move drugs to Kids as young as 12 set up | :16:54. | :17:01. | |
in a vulnerable drug They sell drugs worth | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
thousands of pounds a day. This is the story of two former | :17:08. | :17:16. | |
teenage drug runners. We have protected their identities | :17:17. | :17:29. | |
because their lives are still The first time was like, | :17:30. | :17:32. | |
I think it was like a week, The longest was | :17:33. | :17:51. | |
probably like a month. All I did was stay in the house, | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
then people came to me. You could have like three | :17:57. | :18:01. | |
at the door at the And managing the money, | :18:02. | :18:05. | |
managing drugs, it was hectic. The first night I was a bit, | :18:06. | :18:12. | |
"OK, this is different." But from the time you see the money, | :18:13. | :18:24. | |
you're thinking, "OK, I can just bear a bit more like, | :18:25. | :18:34. | |
I can just turn and hold a bit Probably about two grand | :18:35. | :18:37. | |
a month, probably. I actually didn't have | :18:38. | :18:47. | |
a place to stay, where I had to stay in a graveyard | :18:48. | :19:00. | |
for a whole night. I remember looking at the stars and | :19:01. | :19:05. | |
I saw a question mark, literally. The first house I was | :19:06. | :19:08. | |
in was all right. So like yeah, it | :19:09. | :19:12. | |
kept me preoccupied. But the two houses I was | :19:13. | :19:17. | |
in the other time, no, The second two times | :19:18. | :19:20. | |
I was hesitant with the money and stuff, just | :19:21. | :19:30. | |
in case they took it. That's one of the reasons | :19:31. | :19:35. | |
why I never slept. Some people had like knives | :19:36. | :19:38. | |
and things like that. I had a knife with me, | :19:39. | :19:40. | |
so I felt all right, Yeah, yeah, there's | :19:41. | :19:42. | |
always a risk every day. I remember once I had drugs | :19:43. | :19:45. | |
and also I had a knife, a That probably could put me | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
in like a minimum of two years. With my family, I told them | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
I was staying with a friend because Sometimes I used to come back | :19:55. | :20:03. | |
for like a couple of But sometimes I would come back, | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
probably go to school and do what I But then straightaway | :20:09. | :20:14. | |
I would go back again. It would get to a point | :20:15. | :20:17. | |
where I just disappeared. I thought I was slick enough | :20:18. | :20:24. | |
to get away with it. But looking back on it now, | :20:25. | :20:27. | |
I probably wouldn't have. But at the time I don't | :20:28. | :20:30. | |
really think of it. I was thinking in | :20:31. | :20:35. | |
the house no one will My background wasn't | :20:36. | :20:37. | |
like as wealthy. You know, I had things | :20:38. | :20:51. | |
I needed, not wanted. So all the things | :20:52. | :20:54. | |
I wanted, yeah, but I Bought myself some | :20:55. | :20:56. | |
new trainers and that. I was young so I didn't | :20:57. | :21:06. | |
really know what to do. I just wanted clothes, | :21:07. | :21:11. | |
money and things like that. And did you ever feel | :21:12. | :21:14. | |
like you are being exploited? That age I didn't really recognise | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
the risks, do you know I mean? Other druggies bringing | :21:19. | :21:27. | |
in other druggies. It could be any moment | :21:28. | :21:30. | |
and they could take And in that situation | :21:31. | :21:33. | |
what can you really do? They want to be touched | :21:34. | :21:40. | |
by that needle. There is a time where obviously | :21:41. | :21:50. | |
you do make a mistake, where you're there, you're kind | :21:51. | :21:55. | |
of worried, you're paranoid. It can be a loss of money, | :21:56. | :21:58. | |
a loss of whatever. But when that happens | :21:59. | :22:04. | |
you have to stay. You got to make sure | :22:05. | :22:10. | |
that you make that money back. | :22:11. | :22:13. | |
There's a point that happened to me. Like most of the time | :22:14. | :22:15. | |
you get sent back. No one wanted to kill | :22:16. | :22:19. | |
you because that says you're not Cos knowing what | :22:20. | :22:21. | |
happens to like some weak kind of people, | :22:22. | :22:28. | |
that can mess up their whole life. Once you do this kind | :22:29. | :22:31. | |
of thing, like you can't be like, "Yeah, | :22:32. | :22:37. | |
I want to stop now." They're still talking to me, | :22:38. | :22:43. | |
they're trying to get at me and But I moved away from the area. | :22:44. | :22:53. | |
So I think that helped me a lot to actually think about other | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
things as well. And trying to make my life | :22:59. | :23:01. | |
something else, not just being another number, | :23:02. | :23:03. | |
do you know what I mean? It could have led to me getting | :23:04. | :23:08. | |
arrested, me getting killed, So I felt lucky getting | :23:09. | :23:11. | |
out when I could have. Earlier, I spoke to Kevin Hyland - | :23:12. | :23:19. | |
the government's I asked him how big a problem county | :23:20. | :23:21. | |
lines and cuckooing were. Well what we are finding is that we | :23:22. | :23:33. | |
are starting to discover this more and more each day. I think it is a | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
serious issue for the United Kingdom, where we have young | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
children being used by organised criminals to traffic drugs or for | :23:43. | :23:45. | |
sexual exploitation. We are starting to identify it, but I don't think we | :23:46. | :23:50. | |
understand or are responding to the prevalence of this and we need to | :23:51. | :23:55. | |
see more done. Do we have any idea of the scale of the problem and how | :23:56. | :23:59. | |
many children are involved? Well that is the issue. Because we have | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
not been looking at nit a collective way and looking at it for what it | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
is, witch is serious -- which is serious crime. So we don't | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
understand the scale. The issue of modern slavery we are starting to | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
understand and this is a form of slavery. There could be many | :24:19. | :24:22. | |
hundreds of county lines across the United Kingdom. Until we investigate | :24:23. | :24:27. | |
them and the children who have been exploited are supported properly, we | :24:28. | :24:29. | |
won't start to understand it in a way that can respond to the risks | :24:30. | :24:35. | |
this creates. Why hasn't it been looked at, is it because it is | :24:36. | :24:40. | |
something new? Partly it is something new, but it has been going | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
on for a long while and it has been ignored in as much as many of the | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
young people who are exploit rd just seen as problem children and they | :24:50. | :24:53. | |
turn up in other parts of the country from where they live, | :24:54. | :24:59. | |
carrying drugs or involved in sexual exploitation and they're just seen | :25:00. | :25:03. | |
as problem children, instead of being seen as part of the gang's | :25:04. | :25:10. | |
tools. They're being used as a commodity to move drugs and when you | :25:11. | :25:17. | |
think of it as a crime group f you can get young people to move drugs, | :25:18. | :25:23. | |
the chances of you getting caught are reduced. This is something that | :25:24. | :25:30. | |
is making tens of millions for those who exploit children. Some people | :25:31. | :25:37. | |
may be thinking, young drugs traffickers should be treated as | :25:38. | :25:43. | |
criminals not victims. What would you say? No, that is not looking at | :25:44. | :25:52. | |
theish issue, we have young British nationals who are being groomed. We | :25:53. | :25:56. | |
have young children and it is our responsibility tolike after those | :25:57. | :25:59. | |
children -- to look after those children who are being controlled by | :26:00. | :26:06. | |
serious criminals to traffic drugs or other crime. It is our duty to | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
look after the children and to actually pursue those who trade in | :26:12. | :26:14. | |
suffering of young children. So we need to look at these children in | :26:15. | :26:18. | |
the way that they need to be supported, the way they need to be | :26:19. | :26:23. | |
diverted from these gangs and to take the fight to the criminals. | :26:24. | :26:29. | |
Where do you draw the line, where do they stop becoming vulnerable and | :26:30. | :26:33. | |
become criminals? You have to look at each case and see if they have | :26:34. | :26:37. | |
the real ability to buy the drugs. When they go somewhere else and | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
they're trading drugs for someone else, what is the control measures | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
over those individuals. The issue of modern slavery in the wider context | :26:46. | :26:52. | |
is about people being used as a commodity and these are young people | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
who are vulnerable in the first place, often they're in care, they | :26:57. | :26:59. | |
haven't got families that support them or they haven't got the | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
opportunities that many of us have. And then the criminals move in and | :27:03. | :27:07. | |
groom them. Once you meet these young people face to face and I | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
have, and they come out of the other side, you realise for years we have | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
been letting these people down. What is your response to a highly | :27:16. | :27:19. | |
critical report out today which says police forces are failing to tackle | :27:20. | :27:23. | |
modern slavery and trafficking, because the cases are too difficult | :27:24. | :27:27. | |
and victims are unprotected, despite a rise in cases and also that senior | :27:28. | :27:33. | |
officers believe there is a lack of sympathy for victims. That s. That | :27:34. | :27:40. | |
report is very critical, things have moved on somewhat. But because of | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
the issues that we are seeing with this, the police and the agencies | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
are not seeing it for what it is. We are not seeing victims supported, | :27:50. | :27:53. | |
not seeing the criminals pursued. That report identifies the fact that | :27:54. | :27:59. | |
this has been looked upon as some sort of issue, a marginalised issue | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
that is something outside of the criminal justice system. So it is | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
the prejudices of police officers when it comes to the victim and | :28:08. | :28:11. | |
their backgrounds. It is not just the police, sometimes it is that, | :28:12. | :28:15. | |
sometimes it is the lack of understanding and sometimes the | :28:16. | :28:17. | |
services that are available to victims. In the wider issue of | :28:18. | :28:23. | |
slavery, the support for victims has been insufficient to meet their | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
needs. That is something I have been pushing for. Even those that come | :28:29. | :28:35. | |
forward, if you look at the over 3,000 cases last year we were only | :28:36. | :28:39. | |
seeing one in four ever recorded as a crime and something I brought to | :28:40. | :28:43. | |
the attention in my report was about how we needed to see more crimes and | :28:44. | :28:48. | |
we did see an increase, because it was not even ending up in an | :28:49. | :28:53. | |
investigation. So we need to see processes that are there for other | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
crimes and other vulnerability and when we see that and the victims the | :29:00. | :29:04. | |
supported and looked after not just for the period the national referral | :29:05. | :29:09. | |
mechanism says, that is the Government-supported agencyings but | :29:10. | :29:13. | |
if we see them supported until their recovery and we see the police | :29:14. | :29:19. | |
pursue the criminals, we will see this report, the issues address. If | :29:20. | :29:25. | |
it is just a marginal issue we won't see them addressed. Are there | :29:26. | :29:30. | |
parallels with cases of child exploitation such as in Rotherham, | :29:31. | :29:34. | |
are these children being groomed in the same way but for drugs? It is | :29:35. | :29:39. | |
exactly the same. If we look at cases where there have been | :29:40. | :29:43. | |
prosecutions, in Northumbria, where we saw the high profile case, where | :29:44. | :29:49. | |
the Chief Constable there dealt with as serious organised crime and got | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
some criticism for the tactics he used, but he looked at it as serious | :29:54. | :29:58. | |
organised crime and his aim was to protect the children and pursue the | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
criminals. So I think we need to take that learning, from the child | :30:03. | :30:08. | |
sexual exploitation and domestic violence, look at how long it took | :30:09. | :30:13. | |
us to respond to that. And let's take that and not make the same | :30:14. | :30:20. | |
mistake and miss the victims. Are there similarities where police | :30:21. | :30:25. | |
officers like in the Rotherham and agencies there, maybe reluctant to | :30:26. | :30:30. | |
take action, because they're fearful of being accused of being racist? | :30:31. | :30:39. | |
If we start talking about this for what it is, it is serious org | :30:40. | :30:48. | |
organised crime of abuse, let us forget about the immigration status, | :30:49. | :30:54. | |
the arguments about race, let us look at this vulnerable people, they | :30:55. | :30:59. | |
are being traded as a commodity and we are talking about children, and | :31:00. | :31:05. | |
what we need do is see the police respond to that as serious organised | :31:06. | :31:09. | |
crime. The other issues round the political arguments whether this is | :31:10. | :31:14. | |
a race issue or not, we need to pursue the criminals no matter where | :31:15. | :31:17. | |
they are from, the UK is taking leadership on the issue of modern | :31:18. | :31:20. | |
slavery, it doesn't matter where they come from, whether they come | :31:21. | :31:23. | |
from the UK or they come from somewhere else in the world, let us | :31:24. | :31:27. | |
pursue them for what they are, criminals, let us look after the | :31:28. | :31:31. | |
victims. What should police do if they come across a child who is | :31:32. | :31:36. | |
caught selling drugs, hundreds of miles away from home, what should | :31:37. | :31:40. | |
they do? They need to make sure that child is safe. At the moment are | :31:41. | :31:44. | |
they communicating with where that child is from. You know, sometimes | :31:45. | :31:50. | |
it is very plain, can that child organise that kind of activity, can | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
a child say that it originates from London and ends up in Yorkshire, can | :31:56. | :32:02. | |
they raise that -- arrange that themselves, where would they have | :32:03. | :32:05. | |
bought the drugs from. That is beyond their ability, so look at | :32:06. | :32:10. | |
that, and then as the police, you make the decisions, you are the | :32:11. | :32:13. | |
adults, you are the authorities and then work with you know, social | :32:14. | :32:18. | |
service, child protection, look at the background of how that child got | :32:19. | :32:23. | |
there, and then, see who is organising, organising it, work with | :32:24. | :32:26. | |
the police force where that child is from, start to see if will is a | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
picture, how many children are is turned up in your police force area, | :32:31. | :32:34. | |
build a picture up that isn't relianten a child telling you the | :32:35. | :32:40. | |
story, the police have got lots of technique, lots of methods, tactic, | :32:41. | :32:44. | |
to gather evidence, when they deal with drug dealing for example, they | :32:45. | :32:48. | |
don't have a victim. They need to start using the resources they have | :32:49. | :32:52. | |
got and find out who is doing this, who is the mastermind behind it and | :32:53. | :32:54. | |
prosecute them. We approached the Home Office | :32:55. | :33:08. | |
for an interview but Minister for Crime, Safeguarding | :33:09. | :33:10. | |
and Vulnerability, Sarah Newton, And you can hear much more this | :33:11. | :33:13. | |
story on File on 4 - A report on how the Government's | :33:14. | :33:27. | |
scheme to help disabled people into work has been criticised | :33:28. | :33:36. | |
as being unfit for purpose. We have been talking to sop of those | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
who rely on programme. And we speak to Jonathan Cavendish | :33:42. | :33:47. | |
whose father needed a breathing machine after contracting polio | :33:48. | :33:50. | |
in the 50s, and went on to change the lives of disabled | :33:51. | :33:53. | |
people around the world. Jonathan has now produced a film | :33:54. | :33:54. | |
bringing his father's Time for the latest | :33:55. | :34:02. | |
news - here's Reeta. Hospitals in England could carry out | :34:03. | :34:13. | |
280,000 extra operations a year just by making better use | :34:14. | :34:16. | |
of operating theatres. Analysis by the regulator NHS | :34:17. | :34:18. | |
Improvement suggests more than twohours a day on average | :34:19. | :34:20. | |
are lost because of late Police in England and Wales have | :34:21. | :34:22. | |
been accused of letting down victims of modern slavery at every stage - | :34:23. | :34:29. | |
in a scathing report The Inspectorate found that cases | :34:30. | :34:31. | |
had been closed without any enquiries being made, | :34:32. | :34:36. | |
and in some instances detectives Police say they fully accept | :34:37. | :34:38. | |
the recommendations in the report A British former assistant | :34:39. | :34:44. | |
of Harvey Weinstein says she was paid ?125,000 to keep quiet | :34:45. | :34:46. | |
after accusing the movie mogul Zelda Perkins told | :34:47. | :34:49. | |
the Financial Times she signed a non-disclosure agreement in 1998 | :34:50. | :34:52. | |
after making the accusations. She said Weinstein asked her to give | :34:53. | :34:54. | |
him massages and tried Weinstein has denied any | :34:55. | :34:57. | |
allegations of non-consensual That's a summary of | :34:58. | :34:59. | |
the latest BBC News. Ronaldo has been crowned | :35:00. | :35:16. | |
the greatest player in the world He beat his great rival Lionel Messi | :35:17. | :35:21. | |
of Barcelona and PSG's Neymar to the trophy, | :35:22. | :35:25. | |
in a ceremony in London. David Unsworth is expected to take | :35:26. | :35:28. | |
tempoarary charge of Everton Names in the frame to take the job | :35:29. | :35:31. | |
permanently include Carlo Ancelotti Scotland flanker John Hardie's | :35:32. | :35:42. | |
suspension from Edinburgh and Scotland duty is because of | :35:43. | :35:44. | |
alleged cocaine use, He'll be out of Scotland's squad | :35:45. | :35:46. | |
for the autumn Tests on Tuesday. And Rob Greenwood, the coach accused | :35:47. | :35:53. | |
of creating a "climate of fear" within the British para-swimming | :35:54. | :35:56. | |
setup, has been given the "full support and backing" | :35:57. | :35:58. | |
of the British Swimming More on all those | :35:59. | :36:00. | |
stories just after ten. Plans have been announced | :36:01. | :36:10. | |
for a special memorial service to commemorate the lives | :36:11. | :36:13. | |
of the 80 people who died The service will take place exactly | :36:14. | :36:15. | |
six months to the day at St Paul's Cathedral on 14th | :36:16. | :36:19. | |
December. Here to tell us more | :36:20. | :36:21. | |
are Shahin Sadafi, a Grenfell resident and survivor, | :36:22. | :36:23. | |
and Graham Tomlin, the Welcome both to the programme. I | :36:24. | :36:39. | |
want to come to you first, why did you decide collectively to hold a | :36:40. | :36:47. | |
memorial service? Good morning. The reason for holding the memorial | :36:48. | :36:53. | |
service, it was first and foremost to bring some more attention in | :36:54. | :36:57. | |
regards to the needs of the brave families and to remember the lives | :36:58. | :37:03. | |
lost on the tragic day on 14th June, unfortunately it was a devastating | :37:04. | :37:07. | |
and traumatic event that took place, within this community, and it was an | :37:08. | :37:13. | |
opportunity for us to gather the perked families and remember the | :37:14. | :37:16. | |
lives of our friends, neighbours and family members that were lost on | :37:17. | :37:21. | |
that day. Graham, how will something like this, a memorial service help | :37:22. | :37:30. | |
the survivors of the Grenfell Tower fire, the families of those lost | :37:31. | :37:34. | |
come to terms with what happened? Our hope is by bringing the nation | :37:35. | :37:38. | |
together, there will be a sense that those who have died have not been | :37:39. | :37:42. | |
forgotten, that the nation gathers around those who have been bereaved | :37:43. | :37:45. | |
and are continuing to struggle with all kinds of issues since the fire, | :37:46. | :37:50. | |
and offer support. This is not just a local event, although it has | :37:51. | :37:53. | |
affected the local community massively but it is a national event | :37:54. | :37:57. | |
so it is vital we do that as a nation, the other thing is there is | :37:58. | :38:00. | |
something about a Cathedral when you cross the door, we are all the same, | :38:01. | :38:05. | |
we are all the same before God, doesn't matter whether you are a the | :38:06. | :38:12. | |
Queen, the Prime Minister, a resident of Kensington, our hope is | :38:13. | :38:16. | |
this service will bring dignity to all those who are involved. Will | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
this be a multi-faith service? It will be held and hosted by St Paul's | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
Cathedral so clearly it will be something which has a Christian | :38:27. | :38:30. | |
framework but one which has space for different faiths in it. We have | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
been working with local faith leaders in the community ho are | :38:36. | :38:39. | |
behind the venue and the concept of the service, we will be working on | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
the content of the service over the coming weeks and months with the | :38:43. | :38:46. | |
local community here, in mind, so it is something we hope that everyone | :38:47. | :38:50. | |
of all faiths and none can take part in and feel they have a stake in it. | :38:51. | :38:54. | |
Are you hoping to feed into that process along with other people from | :38:55. | :39:03. | |
the community? Absolutely. When Graham first approached Grenfell | :39:04. | :39:06. | |
United and myself to make sure that we first looked at the needs and | :39:07. | :39:11. | |
viewpoints of the bereaved families, and then obviously the survivors of | :39:12. | :39:15. | |
the tower, so what we will be doing, we have done already and what we | :39:16. | :39:19. | |
will continue to do is make sure we set up sort of meetings, and | :39:20. | :39:23. | |
opportunities for the local community, the bereaved families and | :39:24. | :39:27. | |
the survive, to be able to feedback into us and St Paul's in regards to | :39:28. | :39:31. | |
what they would like the see and have in the memorial service. | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
Thank you both very much for joining us this morning. | :39:37. | :39:37. | |
Coming up. . The story of a man who fought | :39:38. | :39:38. | |
for a life outside hospital after being tethered to breathing | :39:39. | :39:42. | |
equipment in the 1950s - brought Disability campaigners have | :39:43. | :39:45. | |
criticised a key government scheme which helps deaf and disabled people | :39:46. | :39:50. | |
in the workplace as The scheme provides support | :39:51. | :39:52. | |
for deaf and disabled people beyond what employers are obliged | :39:53. | :39:55. | |
to do by law. But a new report seen by this | :39:56. | :39:58. | |
programme says Access to Work - once hailed as the most successful | :39:59. | :40:01. | |
programme of its type - is beset by errors, delays | :40:02. | :40:03. | |
and is being hit by a government Campaigners are calling | :40:04. | :40:06. | |
on ministers to "restore and refit" the programme, | :40:07. | :40:13. | |
which they say should be the cornerstone of the Government's | :40:14. | :40:15. | |
drive to get one million more Just last month charities | :40:16. | :40:18. | |
warned that more disabled people were leaving | :40:19. | :40:24. | |
the workplace than joining. We've been to talk to some of those | :40:25. | :40:26. | |
who rely on what was once called, I'm a human b I just don't | :40:27. | :40:59. | |
understand how or why they think we are a problem. The thought of having | :41:00. | :41:08. | |
to cut my hourers, I could feel, me Janet shrinking, because this small | :41:09. | :41:13. | |
person and feeling quite terrified. Panic I was being abandoned. She had | :41:14. | :41:19. | |
been there for a few months then it was ending next week I was going to | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
different workplaces and seeing people at the end of their tenter, | :41:24. | :41:28. | |
not knowing what do because their access to work support was being | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
cut. It supporting deaf and disabled people at work, a new report claims | :41:34. | :41:39. | |
it is no longer fit for purpose. It points to unacceptably poor | :41:40. | :41:44. | |
customer service, shocking levels of delay, error, and a damaging drive | :41:45. | :41:49. | |
to bear down on costs. Access to work was always described | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
by deaf and disabled people as the Government's best kept secret. When | :41:54. | :41:58. | |
access to Working Tax Credits it works really well, it enables us not | :41:59. | :42:02. | |
just to get jobs gou have a choice of jobs, to go into the same range | :42:03. | :42:06. | |
of professions as non-disabled people. So there will be different | :42:07. | :42:12. | |
support provided, that could be a sign language interpreter, it could | :42:13. | :42:15. | |
be ongoing support needs for a person with a learning difficulty, | :42:16. | :42:19. | |
to be able to understand written information that comes to them, it | :42:20. | :42:23. | |
could be support for someone with a physical impairment if they need to | :42:24. | :42:27. | |
go to meetings and carry thing, it could be support with travel costs | :42:28. | :42:30. | |
if you are not able to travel independently. | :42:31. | :42:35. | |
From 2014 we noticed changes coming in. They weren't announced but there | :42:36. | :42:40. | |
were changes that were impacting on the way people were receiving their | :42:41. | :42:46. | |
support, from access to work, so more frequent review, people being | :42:47. | :42:50. | |
denied support, more often than not. People being told by their advisers | :42:51. | :42:55. | |
they needed to reduce the amount of support they were getting, there was | :42:56. | :43:00. | |
a noticeable increase in hostile attitudes from advisers so | :43:01. | :43:03. | |
accusations that people were a burden on the taxpayer, and the | :43:04. | :43:08. | |
level of errors that we are seeing as making the scheme unworkable for | :43:09. | :43:18. | |
people. My name is Gerald dine, my sign name | :43:19. | :43:24. | |
is Geraldine. I am a project manager. Every time I receive a | :43:25. | :43:31. | |
brown envelope, I get nervous. My budget has been cut twice this year. | :43:32. | :43:39. | |
And only because of administrative errors, the administration the | :43:40. | :43:43. | |
system doesn't work for deaf and disled people How important is it to | :43:44. | :43:49. | |
work? It is an interesting question! Because when I look back, over my | :43:50. | :43:57. | |
working life, I started, I left school, in the early 770s where we | :43:58. | :44:01. | |
never had interpreters there and life was really difficult. Now I am | :44:02. | :44:05. | |
in control, I have had a good career, I have been a director of an | :44:06. | :44:13. | |
organisation, I have managed big budget, I worked for health and | :44:14. | :44:17. | |
Social Services, I'm a project manager now. And it has given me a | :44:18. | :44:21. | |
career, it has given meaning to my life. It is such an important | :44:22. | :44:27. | |
resource and it has meant I can face the world with pride and respect for | :44:28. | :44:33. | |
myself as well. The Government say they would want | :44:34. | :44:36. | |
more people to be in your position and bearing down on costs so they | :44:37. | :44:40. | |
can bring it to more people and let more people do what you have done. | :44:41. | :44:45. | |
That is a reasonable thing to do isn't it isn't I don't think it is | :44:46. | :44:51. | |
up to tell a disabled or deaf people you need this support. How do they | :44:52. | :44:56. | |
know? We are the experts of our impairment. We know what we need to | :44:57. | :45:03. | |
do our jobs well, the resource is brilliant, when it works well, it is | :45:04. | :45:07. | |
brilliant. I just want the system to be better. | :45:08. | :45:14. | |
Urnt currently access is awarded to individuals, for a time limited | :45:15. | :45:18. | |
period of six months, the problem with that is that many people their | :45:19. | :45:21. | |
support needs are not simply going to go away, after six month, they | :45:22. | :45:23. | |
are going to continue. I'm jewel Julia. Julia has Aspergers | :45:24. | :45:45. | |
syndrome and anxiety disorder. What it is like being in a work place | :45:46. | :45:50. | |
with your condition? When nothing obviously has gone wrong, you can go | :45:51. | :45:55. | |
from being completely calm and happy to being just unable to function | :45:56. | :46:03. | |
within minutes. I use the word "word blindness", because I was looking at | :46:04. | :46:08. | |
a document and I was in panic mode, I could see the word, I had the | :46:09. | :46:14. | |
ability to read, but panic meant I couldn't read it. The frustration of | :46:15. | :46:19. | |
knowing that you're capable of doing so much more, because I had done | :46:20. | :46:22. | |
highly responsible jobs in my previous job. I couldn't understand | :46:23. | :46:29. | |
why I had this mental block on doing simple tasks. I realised it was to | :46:30. | :46:35. | |
do with the Aspergers, because I couldn't see the big picture. The | :46:36. | :46:40. | |
support from access to work enabled me to continue throughout many | :46:41. | :46:45. | |
periods when without the support I probably would have to just... There | :46:46. | :46:50. | |
was a couple of points where I would have just have had to walk out and | :46:51. | :46:59. | |
say, I can't do this any more. Last June Julia was told the support was | :47:00. | :47:03. | |
ended and she had a heart attack the next day. Did you feel when you | :47:04. | :47:09. | |
heard the support was ending? Panic, that I was being abandoned, it was a | :47:10. | :47:17. | |
feeling that she'd been there for a few months and suddenly it was like | :47:18. | :47:22. | |
the support is ending next week. When I look at the amount of things | :47:23. | :47:26. | |
I was trying to do within a short period of time, I was a heart attack | :47:27. | :47:28. | |
waiting to happen. Investing access to work has wider | :47:29. | :47:59. | |
societal benefits and there has never been an upper limit on the | :48:00. | :48:03. | |
budget that has been set. Disabled people are confused about this idea | :48:04. | :48:07. | |
of advisors contacting them and telling them that they need to | :48:08. | :48:11. | |
reduce the amount of support that they're receiving. | :48:12. | :48:19. | |
I'm Jenny, I'm a director and Executive of grey eye theatre. I | :48:20. | :48:30. | |
have learned my trade and how to cope in big meetings. | :48:31. | :48:36. | |
So without all of that, my confidence to become the deaf woman | :48:37. | :48:47. | |
I am, the director I am, I would never have thought to say, I want to | :48:48. | :48:55. | |
be the codirector of the Paralympic opening ceremony. It gave me the | :48:56. | :49:00. | |
confidence to do that. It is vital. I think for the importance of | :49:01. | :49:06. | |
ceremony, many deaf were involved, many deaf, disabled people, all with | :49:07. | :49:10. | |
support, full support from access to work, that is the time when they | :49:11. | :49:16. | |
were awesome and some of the access to work people came to watch | :49:17. | :49:22. | |
rehearsals and met the deaf people that were benefitting from the | :49:23. | :49:29. | |
money. So it felt... Really, really linked and aware and an | :49:30. | :49:32. | |
understanding and then when he were all like, we were rocking, we have | :49:33. | :49:34. | |
done it. Then gone. The cap means literally half of my | :49:35. | :49:53. | |
hours gone. After 2012, going from 35 hours a week, they said I could | :49:54. | :50:00. | |
have 72 hours a month. A massive reduction. It is my right-to-work | :50:01. | :50:06. | |
full-time. And having to cut my hours, I could feel me, Jenny, | :50:07. | :50:11. | |
shrinking, becausing this small person, feeling quite terrified | :50:12. | :50:16. | |
about what my future is. I can't believe it is going to happen. So I | :50:17. | :50:21. | |
can't think beyond April, because it makes me feel quite sick. I have | :50:22. | :50:31. | |
thought what am I going to do. Government say the changes and the | :50:32. | :50:35. | |
cap is about widening the reach of the scheme to enable more people | :50:36. | :50:39. | |
like yourself to achieve the things that you have achieved. That is | :50:40. | :50:47. | |
BLEEP. I know you can't say that. What we are seeing is people who | :50:48. | :50:52. | |
receive small amounts of support are still having their hours cut and it | :50:53. | :50:57. | |
seems to be driven by an ideology that people shouldn't depend for | :50:58. | :51:01. | |
support and they need to reduce support at all costs. I'm Nicky and | :51:02. | :51:12. | |
I'm a sign language interpreter. Access to work is one of most | :51:13. | :51:17. | |
important scheme, because it allows deaf and disabled people to smash | :51:18. | :51:22. | |
through the glass ceiling. Before there was not deaf professionals in | :51:23. | :51:26. | |
any kind of job you can imagine. They were limited in what they could | :51:27. | :51:30. | |
do. People just want to be able to do their jobs. And they just... Feel | :51:31. | :51:37. | |
like they're doing something wrong. Like you're asking for a favour, | :51:38. | :51:44. | |
would you mind giving me some money for support. They would say they | :51:45. | :51:49. | |
have a pledge to half the employment gap between disabled and | :51:50. | :51:52. | |
non-disabled people. The changes to access to work are about closing | :51:53. | :51:57. | |
that gap and getting a million more disabled people into work. Well, I | :51:58. | :52:03. | |
hope they will have one more million people into work, deaf and disabled | :52:04. | :52:10. | |
people, but we all need the full amount of access and independence to | :52:11. | :52:13. | |
get to work. Of course we want to work. There is a myth that deaf and | :52:14. | :52:18. | |
disabled people don't want to work. We do. We really, really do and my | :52:19. | :52:25. | |
God we are good. Through education we have the best, so there is a | :52:26. | :52:30. | |
real... You know hunger to be there. But the Government need to realise | :52:31. | :52:35. | |
that they still have to pay to support our access. They do. And I'm | :52:36. | :52:40. | |
sorry, where some of the other money goes... Put that money writ really | :52:41. | :52:44. | |
matters. The Department for Work and Pensions | :52:45. | :52:47. | |
didn't have a minister available to talk to us but the department | :52:48. | :52:50. | |
told us: In one of the most moving | :52:51. | :53:13. | |
roles of his career, Andrew Garfield plays | :53:14. | :53:16. | |
Robin Cavendish, a man who was paralysed from the neck down | :53:17. | :53:18. | |
in 1958, but refused to live out his days in an iron | :53:19. | :53:21. | |
lung in hospital. With the love and support of his | :53:22. | :53:24. | |
wife Diana, played by Claire Foy, Robin broke free and changed not | :53:25. | :53:27. | |
only his life, but that of disabled Their real story has been brought | :53:28. | :53:30. | |
to the big screen by their son I'll be speaking to Jonathan | :53:31. | :53:37. | |
and Diana in a moment, but first let's take a look | :53:38. | :53:43. | |
at a scene where Jonathan - as a little boy - is introduced | :53:44. | :53:46. | |
to his father at home What happens if there | :53:47. | :53:48. | |
is a power cut? Sadly Robin died in 1994 | :53:49. | :54:04. | |
before the film was made, but I'm pleased to say Jonathan | :54:05. | :54:48. | |
and Diana are with me now. You were watching that clip with me. | :54:49. | :54:58. | |
How does it feel to watch yourself, as a baby, meeting your father for | :54:59. | :55:03. | |
the first time? Well, it is a slightly strange thing. In this clip | :55:04. | :55:08. | |
here in the film, my father's just broken out of hospital with my | :55:09. | :55:12. | |
mother. Because he didn't want to live the rest of his life lying down | :55:13. | :55:19. | |
in bed in a hospital. He wanted to live free. When he was in hospital | :55:20. | :55:22. | |
for the first year or so after he got pel polio, he was depressed and | :55:23. | :55:29. | |
he didn't want to see me as a baby. As a reminder of what he might have | :55:30. | :55:34. | |
lost. Did you wander why he was older. He had seen me, but not | :55:35. | :55:37. | |
wanted to connect. This was the first time he had really connected | :55:38. | :55:43. | |
with me. Out of hospital, living free with my mother and about to | :55:44. | :55:48. | |
have an amazing life. That must be difficult for you to know and to | :55:49. | :55:52. | |
hear about later on? Not at all difficult, because what my parents | :55:53. | :55:56. | |
fashioned was this extraordinary joyous, wonderful existence that I | :55:57. | :56:01. | |
was a part of, I tagged alongside it and we had a wonderful time. It was | :56:02. | :56:08. | |
very funny and my father was two minutes from death at any time, | :56:09. | :56:12. | |
because he relied on a breathing machine. But as a child, I never | :56:13. | :56:16. | |
realised that, because my parents dealt with it so elegantly. What was | :56:17. | :56:21. | |
that moment like, it sounds dramatic, having to break out of the | :56:22. | :56:26. | |
hospital? Well, I mean the point was they didn't want Robin to go, | :56:27. | :56:29. | |
because they liked people, they said, we do not know what the | :56:30. | :56:36. | |
long-term effect of operation is and Robin said I would rather die out of | :56:37. | :56:41. | |
hospital than stay here for the rest of my life. And he was right of | :56:42. | :56:46. | |
course. And the... Did you resist at any point? No. No, what was the | :56:47. | :56:52. | |
point? You could see he didn't want, it would have been ridiculous. No | :56:53. | :56:58. | |
life at all. I suppose looking back on it I suppose it was quite | :56:59. | :57:03. | |
adventurous, I am not sure we thought like that at the time. But | :57:04. | :57:09. | |
we had a lot of help from friends and family and actually we stole one | :57:10. | :57:13. | |
or two of the nurses from the hospital! They were not very | :57:14. | :57:18. | |
pleased! It is an extraordinary story. Why did you decide to bring | :57:19. | :57:22. | |
your father's story to the big screen? I'm a film producer and I'm | :57:23. | :57:28. | |
always looking for stories, but it took me time to realise I was | :57:29. | :57:33. | |
sitting on this amazing story. The reason for the telling it was first | :57:34. | :57:41. | |
of all I work with a great writer Bill Nichol and a great director and | :57:42. | :57:46. | |
this amazing cast. So we could be accurate about the life that was | :57:47. | :57:51. | |
led. Because I was there and there are lots of lines of dialogue that I | :57:52. | :57:55. | |
remember being spoken or were handed down. Such as when my parents did | :57:56. | :57:58. | |
break out of hospital, the consultant looking after them | :57:59. | :58:02. | |
shouted after them, you will be dead in two weeks. That is what my | :58:03. | :58:07. | |
parents told me. I wanted to make a film about how you can laugh | :58:08. | :58:12. | |
disaster in the face and joer come difficulties -- overcome | :58:13. | :58:15. | |
difficulties and my parents and this Willem bar -- will embarrass my | :58:16. | :58:28. | |
mother, it was a great love story. They set up an independent life and | :58:29. | :58:33. | |
helped others do the same. Robin changed the rights of disabled | :58:34. | :58:39. | |
people forever. How concerned were you about authenticity when it comes | :58:40. | :58:49. | |
to telling a real story? Very concerned, so everything in the film | :58:50. | :58:53. | |
happened. A lot of the dialogue was dialogue spoken. But it is, it is a | :58:54. | :58:59. | |
very funny film, there is a huge amount of comedy in it. My memory of | :59:00. | :59:04. | |
my parents' life and my life with them and their friends was a | :59:05. | :59:13. | |
constant adventure. My father's enemy was boredom. There was no | :59:14. | :59:18. | |
internet, no television and he created tasks and project and they | :59:19. | :59:22. | |
would travel all over the place. He had a van adapted so he could | :59:23. | :59:28. | |
travel. We went to Spain and broke down there and for 36 hours while | :59:29. | :59:35. | |
the inventor of the machine rebuilt a breathing machine back in London, | :59:36. | :59:41. | |
we sat hand pumping my father. I can remember my mother saying you must | :59:42. | :59:47. | |
not fall asleep. It was very funny and people came from the village and | :59:48. | :59:53. | |
gave us food. But the whole thing was an adventure and fun and amazing | :59:54. | :59:59. | |
to be part of. How big a role did you have in casting. Claire Foy | :00:00. | :00:05. | |
plays you. I had no role. You didn't get a say on who plays you? I'm | :00:06. | :00:10. | |
happy, because Andrew is brilliant and Claire is wonderful and I mean I | :00:11. | :00:15. | |
don't know whether she is like me, but she is marvellous. She is very | :00:16. | :00:20. | |
like you! And Andrew and Claire took so much trouble and you know I met | :00:21. | :00:26. | |
up with them beforehand and told them the story about Andrew ringing | :00:27. | :00:27. | |
you up. 123450 bit by lit learned more. | :00:28. | :00:44. | |
Three weeks before we started filming I got a phone call, picked | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
up a message from my dead father, talking to me exactly as he would, | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
and I was in shock, at the end of it Andrew's voice said who is the voice | :00:54. | :00:58. | |
doing, how am I getting on? By the end, it is not on an extraordinary | :00:59. | :01:02. | |
performance, he takes on the personality and the spirit and the | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
voice and look of my father in an amazing way. When is the film out? | :01:07. | :01:12. | |
This Friday in cinemas near you. Thank you for talking to us. | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
Breaking news just in, it has just been confirmed a British man has | :01:17. | :01:22. | |
been killed in Syria, while clearing landmines in Raqqa, Jack Holmes | :01:23. | :01:27. | |
within an IT worker who left the UK and joined the main Kurdish force | :01:28. | :01:35. | |
fighting so-called Islamic State. Let us get the latest weather update | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
with Carol. This morning we have seen a lot of cloud, some mist, fog | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
round, murky conditions and rain and the rain currently across Wales and | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
north-west England pushing over towards the Wash and Norfolk through | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
the course of the day. It will clear Cumbria. The rain in Scotland and | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
Northern Ireland will clear, leaving sunny spells and few showers and in | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
southern County, although it's a murky start it's a mild one, what we | :02:01. | :02:05. | |
will find it is brighten up. Any sunshine will be a premium. We | :02:06. | :02:08. | |
continue with the rain, edging from the west towards the east, a lot of | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
showers across Scotland. Once again, like the night just gone, it is | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
going to be a mild one with temperatures not falling lower than | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
nine or 13 degrees defending on which part of the country you are. | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
Tomorrow it sinks southwards. Murky in the south-west, but behind it, it | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
will brighten up nicely and for many of us tomorrow, we will see a lot of | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
sunshine, but still, a peppering of showers in the north and the west. | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
Temperatures still hiring than they should be in October, we are looking | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
at 11 to 18. It cools down as we head through Friday and into the | :02:43. | :02:43. | |
weekend. These exploiters have more control | :02:44. | :03:15. | |
of your own children than you do, to the point where you become the | :03:16. | :03:19. | |
outsiders, and children view them as the family. | :03:20. | :03:19. | |
We'll also hear from those who are involved in tackling | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
Campaigners have told us that disabled people are losing out | :03:24. | :03:28. | |
on jobs because a government scheme to help them into work | :03:29. | :03:30. | |
is not fit for purpose - we've been talking to some of those | :03:31. | :03:33. | |
The thought of having to cut my hours, I could feel me, | :03:34. | :03:42. | |
Janet, shrinking, becoming a small person and feeling quite terrified | :03:43. | :03:44. | |
Have you applied for Access to Work what was your experience? | :03:45. | :03:51. | |
And the Supreme Court will consider whether Northern Ireland law | :03:52. | :04:00. | |
breaches women's rights by not allowing abortions in cases | :04:01. | :04:02. | |
of sexual crime and fatal foetal abnormalities. | :04:03. | :04:16. | |
Here's Reeta in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :04:17. | :04:21. | |
Police in England and Wales have been accused of letting down victims | :04:22. | :04:24. | |
of modern slavery at every stage - in a scathing report | :04:25. | :04:26. | |
The Inspectorate found that cases had been closed without any | :04:27. | :04:30. | |
enquiries being made, and in some instances detectives | :04:31. | :04:32. | |
Police say they fully accept the recommendations in the report | :04:33. | :04:42. | |
The police have got lots of techniques, lots of methods, | :04:43. | :04:44. | |
When they deal with drug dealing, for example, | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
They need to start using the resources they have got and find | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
out who's doing this, who is the master mind behind it | :04:53. | :04:54. | |
In a few minutes time, we'll be hearing from some of those | :04:55. | :05:05. | |
involved in the fight against modern slavery including a former gang | :05:06. | :05:07. | |
Hospitals in England could carry out 280,000 extra operations a year | :05:08. | :05:13. | |
just by making better use of operating theatres. | :05:14. | :05:15. | |
Analysis by the watchdog NHS Improvement, due | :05:16. | :05:17. | |
out later this week, suggests that an average of 2 hours | :05:18. | :05:20. | |
a day are lost in operating theatres because of late starts | :05:21. | :05:22. | |
The European Council President, Donald Tusk, has urged the remaining | :05:23. | :05:31. | |
EU member countries to stick together as negotiations | :05:32. | :05:33. | |
If we fail it the negotiations will end in our defeat. We must keep our | :05:34. | :05:57. | |
unity regardless on the direct hundred of the talk, the EU will be | :05:58. | :06:03. | |
able to rise to every scenario as long as we are not divided. It is in | :06:04. | :06:10. | |
fact up to London how this will end, with a good deal, no deal, or no | :06:11. | :06:18. | |
Brexit. But in each of these scenarios, we will protect our | :06:19. | :06:21. | |
common interest only be being together. | :06:22. | :06:29. | |
A British man has been killed while clearing landmines in Raqqa. Jack | :06:30. | :06:37. | |
Holmes had been fighting with the Kurdish militia the YPG since 2015. | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
Kurdish representatives in the UK said they had been told by YPG | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
officials that the former IT workers was killed while he was clearing an | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
area of landmines to make it safe for civilians. | :06:50. | :06:54. | |
A 53-year old man is due in court today charged in connection | :06:55. | :06:57. | |
with an armed siege that lasted 4 hours at a bowling alley in Nuneaton | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
David Clark is charged with false imprisonment, criminal damage, | :07:01. | :07:03. | |
and possessing a blade and an imitation firearm. | :07:04. | :07:10. | |
A British former assistant of Harvey Weinstein says | :07:11. | :07:12. | |
she was paid ?125,000 to keep quiet after accusing the movie mogul | :07:13. | :07:15. | |
Zelda Perkins told the Financial Times she signed | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
a non-disclosure agreement in 1998 after making the accusations. | :07:19. | :07:20. | |
She said Weinstein asked her to give him massages and tried | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
Weinstein has denied any allegations of non-consensual | :07:24. | :07:26. | |
Disability campaigners have criticised a key government scheme | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
which helps deaf and disabled people in the workplace | :07:32. | :07:34. | |
The scheme provides support for people with disabilities | :07:35. | :07:37. | |
beyond what employers are obliged to do by law. | :07:38. | :07:44. | |
But a new report seen by this programme says Access to Work - | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
once hailed as the most successful programme of its type - | :07:48. | :07:49. | |
is beset by errors, delays and is being hit by a government | :07:50. | :07:52. | |
The Government says it's "committed to supporting disabled people to get | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
And some of those who use the Access to Work scheme will be telling us | :07:57. | :08:05. | |
about their experiences a little later on - that's at around | :08:06. | :08:08. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30. | :08:09. | :08:19. | |
Breaking news, Stuart Bingham the 2015 World Snooker champion has been | :08:20. | :08:34. | |
banned for six months for breaching the WWSA betting rules. Three months | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
and one day will be suspended if he complies with any treatment | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
recommended to him, for his gambling, and if he commits no | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
further rule breach, Bingham still has the option to appeal but he will | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
miss the three most lucrative tournaments outside of the World | :08:53. | :08:53. | |
tournaments outside of the World Championship. | :08:54. | :08:55. | |
Ronaldo has been crowned the greatest footballer | :08:56. | :08:57. | |
of the year, at the 2017 Best Fifa Awards in London. | :08:58. | :09:03. | |
His Real Madrid coach Zinedine Zidane was named best coach too. | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
Ronaldo beat Lionel Messi of Barcelona and PSG's | :09:07. | :09:08. | |
Neymar to the honour, after helping Real | :09:09. | :09:09. | |
to a Champions League and La Liga double last season. | :09:10. | :09:12. | |
Leeka Martens of Barcelona and the Netherlands won | :09:13. | :09:14. | |
Lieke Martens of Barcelona and the Netherlands won | :09:15. | :09:25. | |
She was Player of the Tournament at Euro 2017 this summer, | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
Her manager Sarina Veegman was named 'Best Female Coach'. | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
David Unsworth will take temporary charge of Everton, | :09:34. | :09:34. | |
following the sacking of Ronald Koeman yesterday. | :09:35. | :09:36. | |
Unsworth will lead the team their league cup game | :09:37. | :09:38. | |
Names in the frame to take the job permanently are David Moyes, | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
who enjoyed a successful spell at the club, had a tough time | :09:43. | :09:45. | |
with other teams since leaving including that Premier League | :09:46. | :09:47. | |
He's done a brilliant job at Burnley to keep them in the Premier League | :09:48. | :09:55. | |
and they've had a good start to the season. | :09:56. | :09:57. | |
Sam Alladyce, granted he last just one game as England manager, | :09:58. | :10:00. | |
he is know for getting teams out of sticky situations, | :10:01. | :10:02. | |
although currently in retirement since quitting Crystal Palace four | :10:03. | :10:04. | |
And Carlo Ancelotti, the biggest name linked to this job, | :10:05. | :10:16. | |
three-times Champions League winner, he is free after leaving | :10:17. | :10:19. | |
Whoever takes charge, they'll have some serious work | :10:20. | :10:22. | |
to do, with Everton bottom of their group in the Europa League, | :10:23. | :10:26. | |
bottom three in the Premier League and without a win in five games. | :10:27. | :10:34. | |
Rob Greenwood, the coach accused of creating a "climate of fear" | :10:35. | :10:36. | |
within the British para-swimming setup, has been given | :10:37. | :10:38. | |
the "full support and backing" of the British Swimming Coaches | :10:39. | :10:41. | |
This comes despite British Swimming issuing an apology to athletes | :10:42. | :10:44. | |
and admitting some of their swimmers needed counselling after being | :10:45. | :10:46. | |
"visibly distressed" recounting their experiences. | :10:47. | :10:51. | |
Greenwood resigned from his position before the investigation began | :10:52. | :10:53. | |
and is yet to comment publicly about the findings. | :10:54. | :11:00. | |
England forward Sam Burgess says the squad for the 2017 World Cup has | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
more "X Factor" than the team that got to | :11:04. | :11:05. | |
England play their first match against holders Australia | :11:06. | :11:22. | |
Burgess also said that Rob Andrew doesn't know the full story | :11:23. | :11:25. | |
about his role at the 2015 rugby union World Cup, for | :11:26. | :11:28. | |
The RFU's former director of professional rugby called his | :11:29. | :11:31. | |
Rob went round the camp. He didn't see the work I had put in, he didn't | :11:32. | :11:39. | |
see how I contributed to the squad, he didn't see how I hard I worked, | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
whatsoever, he is not in the trench, he doesn't see what happened. I | :11:45. | :11:50. | |
disagree with him. I am proud of my performance for England, what I | :11:51. | :11:55. | |
contributed to the team. Unfort theyly the results didn't go as we | :11:56. | :11:58. | |
planned. He is entitled to his opinion and he is trying to sell his | :11:59. | :12:05. | |
book, so fair play to him. That is all the sport for now. | :12:06. | :12:07. | |
A leading charity says thousands of kids from London | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
are being trafficked around the country by gangs to sell drugs. | :12:12. | :12:14. | |
The Modern Slavery commissioner says the stats are shocking | :12:15. | :12:16. | |
and they are only starting to get to grips with it now. | :12:17. | :12:19. | |
The police call this 'county lines' - and it's sometimes | :12:20. | :12:21. | |
known as 'cuckooing' - because the teenagers travel | :12:22. | :12:23. | |
from inner city areas across county lines to other towns to sell | :12:24. | :12:26. | |
the drugs, often from the home of a vulnerable drug user. | :12:27. | :12:29. | |
Last year, the National Crime Agency described it as a "national | :12:30. | :12:32. | |
problem", with around 70% of forces reporting they were dealing | :12:33. | :12:45. | |
Yesterday, Chloe Tilley spoke to the mum of one boy | :12:46. | :12:48. | |
who was groomed by gangs in his early teens. | :12:49. | :12:51. | |
We've protected her identity because her son is still at risk. | :12:52. | :12:58. | |
When did you notice things were going wrong for your son? Roughly, | :12:59. | :13:07. | |
aren't year eight. A year after starting secondary school. Just | :13:08. | :13:14. | |
changes in behaviour. Very extreme changes, and a lot of it, you can | :13:15. | :13:24. | |
expect to happen round that age. But this was something that was quite | :13:25. | :13:32. | |
stark, and it was, it wasn't gradual. A real personality | :13:33. | :13:39. | |
transformation, quite quickly. Using real course language and kiss | :13:40. | :13:46. | |
playing real bad anger -- displaying real bad anger issues and there was | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
no reason for it, so it was all very difficult to deal with. It was | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
almost like it wasn't your own son. It was a little bit later on that he | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
started to go missing. Yes. There was about 18 months of activity, | :14:03. | :14:10. | |
which was very out of character. Behavioural indicators that were not | :14:11. | :14:15. | |
quite right, and he then went missing. The first episode was for a | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
substantial number of days, totally out of the blue. And he came home of | :14:21. | :14:25. | |
his own accord? No, he was found by police and we were told that he had | :14:26. | :14:31. | |
been groomed by a gang that were well-known to police for extreme | :14:32. | :14:36. | |
violence during the missing episode, which obviously was just | :14:37. | :14:40. | |
jaw-dropping a as parent, to have to hear those words. Because you are | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
not expecting anything like that to be the cause of all those | :14:46. | :14:51. | |
behaviours, all the missing episode, and that takes quite a lot of | :14:52. | :14:57. | |
getting used to, to hear your son's name being mentioned around that | :14:58. | :15:03. | |
sort of setting. It, it is a really bizarre thing to get your head | :15:04. | :15:07. | |
round, really the trouble started after the missing episode because | :15:08. | :15:14. | |
they were still ongoing suspicions, around his activities an behaviour, | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
in other words, it didn't stop, after the initial missing episode. | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
There were suspicious activity, or mobile phones, things that went | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
missing from the house. You know, presence of things in a school bag | :15:32. | :15:35. | |
you wouldn't associate with a child. Like what? Digital scales for | :15:36. | :15:41. | |
weighing out drugs and it was clear, despite that horrific missing | :15:42. | :15:46. | |
episode when weer with told what was going on, we were were to all | :15:47. | :15:49. | |
intents an purposes left to it. He was give an youth worker, but if | :15:50. | :16:00. | |
you're a groomed or exploited child, then it's clear that intervention is | :16:01. | :16:05. | |
it not going to succeed. And it didn't succeed. He promptly refused | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
to engage with them and it is now clear that is a common feature of | :16:11. | :16:17. | |
county lines exploitation. The children are taught, influenced to | :16:18. | :16:21. | |
hate police and authority figures. So you're not going to be answerable | :16:22. | :16:28. | |
to engage with them. They have almost been taken over mentally. I | :16:29. | :16:34. | |
use the word brainwash, because that is how it looks. They have these... | :16:35. | :16:40. | |
Exploiters have more control over your own children than you do. To | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
the point where you become the outsiders and the children view them | :16:45. | :16:53. | |
as the family. We then moved on to a nine-month spell, continuous of | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
missing episodes on a daily basis. That was roughly just shy of 200 odd | :16:59. | :17:07. | |
missing episodes and it's very difficult to explain to somebody | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
what that looks like in reality. Because you have the police camped | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
in your house, but life is going on at the same time. You know, looking | :17:17. | :17:23. | |
back now, there should have been more support than there was, but | :17:24. | :17:31. | |
it's not not even as if that wasn't made known to the agencies at the | :17:32. | :17:34. | |
time. There was a lack of recognition that he was involved in | :17:35. | :17:42. | |
gangs. Or that he'd been exploited. What effect did it have on you and | :17:43. | :17:47. | |
your family? It is difficult, because the nature of the missing | :17:48. | :17:51. | |
episodes being as they were, for hours and hours, and sometimes going | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
into two days, you just don't sleep you know? Because you have got | :17:57. | :18:02. | |
contact with the police throughout the night. Whilst he has gone | :18:03. | :18:06. | |
missing you're going to get the call to say that he has been stabbed or | :18:07. | :18:11. | |
killed in some sort of altercation. So it is a different alien world, | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
because whilst you're sitting in in the late hours waiting, you're | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
completely aware that the world that he is mixing in isn't the same one | :18:22. | :18:28. | |
as you're sitting in. Let's talk about the interventions, what could | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
have been done differently? So many things could have been done | :18:33. | :18:40. | |
differently. My son divulged to a profebgssal fessional that he was in | :18:41. | :18:43. | |
contact with a 27-year-old male. But nothing was done. That was at the | :18:44. | :18:47. | |
start of the professional intervention. We thought that | :18:48. | :18:51. | |
someone would be at our door to gain more information about that | :18:52. | :18:57. | |
statement. Nothing happened. You know, if you have got one family who | :18:58. | :19:03. | |
is making phone calls five days in a row, that is excessive. When you | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
have got somebody doing it for nine months, it is just inexcusable. | :19:09. | :19:13. | |
Somebody should have got in touch with us and said, what's going on | :19:14. | :19:19. | |
here? How can we help so you're not having to do this every day? For any | :19:20. | :19:25. | |
parent watching, who might be concerned about their own children, | :19:26. | :19:30. | |
what would you say? Trust your instincts. Know your child. Most | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
parents know when there is something wrong. That is why they're thinking | :19:35. | :19:39. | |
something is not right, because they have noticed a change. I would say | :19:40. | :19:44. | |
go with your gut instinct. How is your son now? He is on a slightly | :19:45. | :19:50. | |
different more positive trajectory, but it has come after a long time | :19:51. | :19:54. | |
and we have still got a lot of work to do and we have still got a lot of | :19:55. | :19:59. | |
time to catch up and we still don't know what the future's going to look | :20:00. | :20:06. | |
like for him. I've had to work really hard personally to achieve | :20:07. | :20:11. | |
what we have got now and it shouldn't be down to the parent to | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
do that. It should be down to the professionals. Unfortunately with my | :20:16. | :20:21. | |
situation, it was very close that the experts on country lines were | :20:22. | :20:23. | |
not the professionals. We can chat about this more | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
now with Junior Smart, a former gang member who now works | :20:28. | :20:30. | |
for St Giles Trust - which helps people leave gangs - | :20:31. | :20:33. | |
and is one of the charities that has won funding from the | :20:34. | :20:36. | |
Home Office today. councillor responsible for child | :20:37. | :20:40. | |
safeguarding and who recently led a cross party group of MPs who met | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
the Home Office minister responsible How big a problem this is, county | :20:45. | :21:05. | |
lines, cuckooing, in Islington? We have found 75 young people involved | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
in this. We are not a big area and so it is likely there are other | :21:10. | :21:13. | |
local authorities where there are far more young people involved. | :21:14. | :21:15. | |
There could be thousands of young people involved in this. How | :21:16. | :21:20. | |
worrying is that for you and is this something that is new? It is not | :21:21. | :21:28. | |
new, it has been going on for about 20 year, but it has just become | :21:29. | :21:32. | |
visible. We are told we have to safeguard children and we want to do | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
that, but we don't have to tools to do that, because we can't work cross | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
boundary with every local authority and police force where young people | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
may be, without leadership from national level and a national | :21:45. | :21:48. | |
strategy I don't think we are going to get to grip with this on our own. | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
You had a meeting at the Home Office with other councillors about trying | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
to develop a national strategy, because it does involve people | :21:59. | :22:01. | |
travelling to different parts of the country to sell drugs. How did that | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
go? Not as well as I would have liked it. The minister will not | :22:07. | :22:11. | |
introduce a national strategy and believes we should do things in | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
other ways. I argued that I think because this is a national problem | :22:16. | :22:18. | |
it needs a national solution and without that leadership, if we | :22:19. | :22:21. | |
become effective at working in some areas, the gangs will move | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
elsewhere. The reason they started doing this was they knew services | :22:26. | :22:29. | |
were bad at working with each other. So without that national response we | :22:30. | :22:32. | |
can't do it and I urge the minister to think again. Gina, we don't know | :22:33. | :22:40. | |
the true scale of the problem, but the charities for London estimate | :22:41. | :22:44. | |
about 4,000 children in London could be victims of this. How do children | :22:45. | :22:51. | |
get involved in the first place? There is many different ways. Quite | :22:52. | :22:59. | |
commonly people like too think this is the deprived communities, sink | :23:00. | :23:05. | |
estates, but I have received many phone calls like the mother we have | :23:06. | :23:11. | |
heard from and from dual part households -- parent households, the | :23:12. | :23:17. | |
criminality attaches itself to what ever is missing from that person's | :23:18. | :23:25. | |
family. One kid was getting good pocket money, but he wanted to be | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
that guy. You can point the finger at messages on social media, the | :23:30. | :23:39. | |
videos that glamorise the lifestyle. Be But the reality is anything but | :23:40. | :23:45. | |
that. Does a young person know they're being exploiteded when you | :23:46. | :23:51. | |
end up in scare situations with drugs you're often in a crack house | :23:52. | :23:55. | |
or in a property and actually you're in an area you don't know anybody. | :23:56. | :23:58. | |
The young people tell us the reality is sairy. -- scary. It can affect | :23:59. | :24:07. | |
not only deprived children, but middle class kids. What are the | :24:08. | :24:12. | |
signs, how do these gangs lure children in to the point where they | :24:13. | :24:17. | |
don't realise it is happen something Well from a parent, from they're | :24:18. | :24:24. | |
saying is they see drastic changes in the child's behaviour, new | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
possessions, additional mobile phones, things they can't account | :24:30. | :24:33. | |
for. The young people say they're looking for escapism and it depends | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
what that young person wants or needs, if it is respect, the group | :24:38. | :24:44. | |
tends to provide, if it is finance. To deal with with this requires a | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
joined up approach across all the services, police, probation and | :24:50. | :24:54. | |
charities, but it requires that organisations to communicate with | :24:55. | :25:00. | |
each other. We are lucky the work we do in schools with St Giles trust | :25:01. | :25:07. | |
provides that consistent one-to-one support and we have that cultural | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
currency, we know what the reality is. Young people tend to trust us. | :25:12. | :25:18. | |
Now let's get the police perspective. How big a problem is | :25:19. | :25:23. | |
this for you, where you are? Yes this is a big problem that we are | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
dealing w it is something we are familiar with over a number of years | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
sadly. The reports you have heard are shocking for people to hear. But | :25:32. | :25:36. | |
it is something that day in, day out any officers are dealing as they are | :25:37. | :25:41. | |
trying to deal with the problems of drug abuse. There is a highly | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
critical report which says that police forces are failing to tackle | :25:47. | :25:52. | |
modern slavery and fail being victims at every level and officers | :25:53. | :25:59. | |
believe the public lack of simp thif for victim -- sympathy for victims | :26:00. | :26:04. | |
is partly to blame. How do you respond to that? The report today is | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
something that we as a police service need to respond to and look | :26:09. | :26:14. | |
at how we can develop and improve. However, by way of reassurance it is | :26:15. | :26:17. | |
fundamental that our staff do put victims at the heart of everything | :26:18. | :26:23. | |
that we do. It is key to us in Suffolk here in terms of our | :26:24. | :26:26. | |
policing style and response. The report that you're talking about | :26:27. | :26:30. | |
refers to modern day slavery, but as you will be aware there is a range | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
of tactics that we use as a police service to tackle the problem around | :26:35. | :26:38. | |
county lines and vulnerability and the use of modern day slavery | :26:39. | :26:43. | |
legislation is just one of those. I want to come back to you, what ages | :26:44. | :26:49. | |
are we talking about here? Is this just children, is it adults? By the | :26:50. | :26:55. | |
nature, we are talking about children and I see every one of | :26:56. | :27:01. | |
those as children with real hopes and aspirations, but just going | :27:02. | :27:05. | |
about it in the wrong way. The youngest on our case load is 11 and | :27:06. | :27:11. | |
that is a young person that has been caught up with it and I believe that | :27:12. | :27:18. | |
crucial recruitment age we are looking at happens between primary | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
and secondary school, is the first point of entrapment by the young | :27:23. | :27:27. | |
people. And you know, it is not, what is a shame about this, it is | :27:28. | :27:32. | |
not the lack of will, but it is that it requires intensive work. This is | :27:33. | :27:35. | |
intensive work that requires long-term funding to do the work | :27:36. | :27:41. | |
properly. And frequently we come across agencies that just don't know | :27:42. | :27:45. | |
enough about the reality of gangs, enough about how these criminal | :27:46. | :27:51. | |
operations work and so what you tend to find is they're giving piece meal | :27:52. | :28:01. | |
help. But that needs to be tailor made and ongoing. Thank you for | :28:02. | :28:03. | |
speaking us to today. And you can hear much more this | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
story on File on 4 - We approached the Home Office | :28:08. | :28:10. | |
for an interview but Minister for Crime, Safeguarding | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
and Vulnerability, Sarah Newton, We have passed legislation, allowing | :28:15. | :28:35. | |
the police to crackdown on drug dealing gangs. It sends a message we | :28:36. | :28:39. | |
will not tolerate this criminal activity. Still to come: An | :28:40. | :28:49. | |
assistant to Harvey Weinstein said she was paid to keep quiet about a | :28:50. | :28:51. | |
sexual assault. Disability campaigners have | :28:52. | :28:54. | |
criticised a key government scheme which helps deaf and disabled people | :28:55. | :28:56. | |
in the workplace as The scheme provides support | :28:57. | :28:58. | |
for deaf and disabled people beyond what employers are obliged | :28:59. | :29:04. | |
to do by law. But a new report seen by this | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
programme says Access to Work - once hailed as the most successful | :29:09. | :29:11. | |
programme of its type - is beset by errors, delays | :29:12. | :29:14. | |
and is being hit by a government Campaigners are calling | :29:15. | :29:17. | |
on ministers to "restore and refit" the programme, | :29:18. | :29:21. | |
which they say SHOULD be Just last month charities warned | :29:22. | :29:29. | |
that more disabled people We've been to talk to some of those | :29:30. | :29:33. | |
who rely on what was once called This is the Jenny's story. My names | :29:34. | :29:51. | |
Jenny, I'm the artistic director and Chief Executive of grey eyes | :29:52. | :29:55. | |
theatre. Because I have had access to work, I have learned my trade and | :29:56. | :29:59. | |
how to cope in big meetings. I would never have thought to say I | :30:00. | :30:24. | |
want to be the co-artist director of the par Paralympic Opening Ceremony. | :30:25. | :30:27. | |
It Gays me that confidence to do that. It is vital I think for the | :30:28. | :30:34. | |
importance of the ceremony. Many deaf were involved. Many deaf | :30:35. | :30:39. | |
disabled people, all with support, full support from access to work, | :30:40. | :30:44. | |
that is the time when they were awesome and some of the access to | :30:45. | :30:49. | |
work people, they came the watch rehearsal, they met the deaf people | :30:50. | :30:55. | |
that were benefitting from the money, so it felt, really really | :30:56. | :31:01. | |
linked and aware of the understanding, when we were all | :31:02. | :31:06. | |
like, we're rocking, we've done it. Boof, gone. From April the am of | :31:07. | :31:13. | |
help will be capped for all users at 1.5 times the average salary. The | :31:14. | :31:23. | |
cap means literally half of my hour, boof, after 2012 going from 35 hours | :31:24. | :31:29. | |
a week, they said I could have 72 hours a month, that is a massive | :31:30. | :31:33. | |
reduction, it is my right to work full-time. The thought of having to | :31:34. | :31:40. | |
cut my hour, I could feel, me, Jenny shrinking, become this small person | :31:41. | :31:44. | |
and feeling quite terrified about what my future is. I can't believe | :31:45. | :31:49. | |
it is going to happen, so I can't think beyond April because it makes | :31:50. | :31:57. | |
me feel quite sick, you know, and I have a, I thought what am I going to | :31:58. | :31:59. | |
have a, I thought what am I going to do? | :32:00. | :32:04. | |
Let's talk now to Miro Griffiths - Government advisor on disability | :32:05. | :32:06. | |
We can also speak to David Buxton - Chief Executive of Action | :32:07. | :32:11. | |
Adrian Bailey is here as his interpreter. | :32:12. | :32:13. | |
Penny Pepper is a writer and John Kelly is a self-employed | :32:14. | :32:16. | |
musician who both use Access to Work. | :32:17. | :32:19. | |
Thank you for joining the programme today. David, I want to come to you | :32:20. | :32:28. | |
first of all, the Government says the scheme is tailored to | :32:29. | :32:33. | |
individuals' needs and can include travel to work, support workers and | :32:34. | :32:38. | |
specialist equipment, but are people struggling to gain access to | :32:39. | :32:46. | |
everything that is on off to them? Yes e certainly the situation now is | :32:47. | :32:51. | |
very different from twenty years ago when I first started using Access to | :32:52. | :32:55. | |
Work. I was able to have full access and able to progress from entry | :32:56. | :32:59. | |
level position to chief executive officer, which is remarkable. These | :33:00. | :33:05. | |
cuts are causing a lack of understanding, a lack of knowledge | :33:06. | :33:12. | |
of what is to come. Now I face a restriction of three days of Access | :33:13. | :33:14. | |
to Work support which means I don't know if I am going to be stable in | :33:15. | :33:20. | |
my job. The Government ministers, if we imagine, if we say that the | :33:21. | :33:24. | |
Government ministers who are negotiating with foreign Governments | :33:25. | :33:30. | |
say over Brexit, had to have restrictions on their foreign | :33:31. | :33:33. | |
language translation, and interpretation in dealing with | :33:34. | :33:36. | |
foreign Government, surely that would have a negative impact on our | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
relations initially. That would be a similar example for what we are | :33:42. | :33:46. | |
going through as deaf and disabled people, having this support removed | :33:47. | :33:50. | |
is having a negative impact on our work through no fault of our own. In | :33:51. | :33:56. | |
report suggests Access to Work is creating problems that | :33:57. | :33:57. | |
disproportionately affect deaf people. Can you explain to us what | :33:58. | :34:04. | |
they are? TRANSLATION: Yes, so there is two | :34:05. | :34:10. | |
areas, so, firstly, people who require high levels of support like | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
myself, are affected by the cap and 90% of those people affected by the | :34:16. | :34:22. | |
cap are deaf people, so, that means access to support is significantly | :34:23. | :34:26. | |
reduced, the Government is talking about widening the scheme to have as | :34:27. | :34:30. | |
many deaf and disabled people who require the support to have access | :34:31. | :34:35. | |
to out, which is clearly very welcome, but, even those from the | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
deaf and disabled people we are speaking to, say that they are | :34:41. | :34:45. | |
negatively being impacted by the levels 06 support which means this | :34:46. | :34:51. | |
is highly discriminateliry. You recently finished writing a book but | :34:52. | :34:55. | |
it almost didn't happen because of issues Penny. What were the problems | :34:56. | :35:01. | |
you faced? Well I thought this was would give context to of the issues | :35:02. | :35:06. | |
to access to work, this happened because of it but despite is. I | :35:07. | :35:10. | |
could not have written this book, which was published in September, so | :35:11. | :35:15. | |
it is a lovely new baby, I am very proud of it but every step of the | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
way with Access to Work, it is fraught with incompetence, loss of | :35:22. | :35:27. | |
paperwork, loss of named support on their end, you get a different | :35:28. | :35:34. | |
person each time, there is also the culture now seeping into Access to | :35:35. | :35:39. | |
Work of you asking for something that isn't genuine, it feeds into | :35:40. | :35:46. | |
the scrounger attitude that you so often, is thrown at disabled people, | :35:47. | :35:53. | |
I can say when it began, I have been an activist for 30 year, which is | :35:54. | :35:59. | |
partly detailed in my book, but we thought it was going to be a | :36:00. | :36:04. | |
wonderful thing, and we have to ask the Government do they want us to | :36:05. | :36:08. | |
work? They do, the Government says they are trying to get a million | :36:09. | :36:13. | |
more people into work, and they are... It won't happen's they are | :36:14. | :36:18. | |
spending no that are... It is available to people who need | :36:19. | :36:24. | |
support. This may then help more people instead of being able to give | :36:25. | :36:27. | |
more money to individuals if you see what I mean. What do you think about | :36:28. | :36:34. | |
that? Is it better, to help a larger number of people. | :36:35. | :36:37. | |
TRANSLATION: There is no evidence to suggest that would be the case. What | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
we need to do is get away from the rhetoric that the Government | :36:42. | :36:46. | |
constantly spouts out, and look at the reality of every disabled | :36:47. | :36:49. | |
person's lived experience, you know, this is a scary time because we have | :36:50. | :36:53. | |
already seen them tinkering round with things like the independent | :36:54. | :36:57. | |
living fund to the point where they close it. DLA and PIP we know that | :36:58. | :37:04. | |
that, the cumulative effect of the changes that are happening to | :37:05. | :37:07. | |
disabled people are slowly taking away all the building blocks we need | :37:08. | :37:12. | |
to be able to contribute and participate to society, so the | :37:13. | :37:15. | |
rhetoric the Government is spouting out, is just not the reality, you | :37:16. | :37:21. | |
know I have been using Access to Work for the last ten years and I | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
have seen just this terrible, terrible increase in the | :37:27. | :37:30. | |
bureaucracy, the misunderstanding, the inaccuracy. In that time, it | :37:31. | :37:34. | |
would be interesting to know what has changed practically on a day to | :37:35. | :37:40. | |
level for you. It has move to being a system that supports you in work, | :37:41. | :37:44. | |
to a system where you have to justify every single thing you do, | :37:45. | :37:49. | |
and actually, if you don't give them the right answer, sorry I have had | :37:50. | :37:53. | |
an example where they said we think there is a cheaper taxi company that | :37:54. | :37:57. | |
can get you to your job, you will have to use this one, then when we | :37:58. | :38:05. | |
used that taxi company they didn't have any wheelchair accessible taxi, | :38:06. | :38:09. | |
disabled people know best who their needs are and you have probably | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
worked out the best and cheapest want toy do it. So the reality is, | :38:14. | :38:20. | |
that, that this is a cut and Britain needs to work up and rise against | :38:21. | :38:25. | |
these kinds of changes that are taking on the fabric of society that | :38:26. | :38:30. | |
isn't supporting disabled people. I want to get a quick word from Mira | :38:31. | :38:36. | |
as well. You are a government adviser to the department for work | :38:37. | :38:39. | |
and pension, you say they are committed to supporting disabled | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
people to get into employment, would you say that is accurate? No, I | :38:43. | :38:49. | |
wouldn't. I think what we are seeing is a reinforcement of this narrative | :38:50. | :38:55. | |
of people being deserving is of support and people being undeserving | :38:56. | :39:00. | |
is. It goes along with the political ideology of Government which states | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
that the support will be reduced over time and people should get on | :39:05. | :39:08. | |
with it. If we want to commit to people being valued members of the | :39:09. | :39:12. | |
community and society, then it requires an effective support | :39:13. | :39:19. | |
scheme, which is funded but which is also run by and afforded people, it | :39:20. | :39:25. | |
will require people have more of a voice and a presence within those | :39:26. | :39:30. | |
discussions. Have you been approached by the Department for | :39:31. | :39:32. | |
Work and Pensions? For this scheme? No, I haven't. Not for some time | :39:33. | :39:39. | |
now, as an Access to Work user, who has, I would echo what Penny and | :39:40. | :39:44. | |
John say which is over time I have seen the scrutiny increase, the | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
emphasis on medical labels, on medical diagnosis to justify support | :39:49. | :39:51. | |
hand is never what Access to Work was about. I suppose my | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
recommendations for the DWP and Government would be release the | :39:57. | :39:59. | |
statistics which show how many people have had their support cut | :40:00. | :40:03. | |
after being reassessed which I don't think is out there, and opposition | :40:04. | :40:07. | |
parties need to demand that as. We I also think that the Government needs | :40:08. | :40:13. | |
to recognise what the UN CRPD committee said when they said they | :40:14. | :40:19. | |
recognise the support systems are causing human catastrophe. I also | :40:20. | :40:23. | |
think people need to be in positions of political power, and need to have | :40:24. | :40:28. | |
a political voice in order to run and develop and design access to | :40:29. | :40:33. | |
work. OK. Thank you all for. Coming in today. Department for Work and | :40:34. | :40:36. | |
Pensions didn't have a minister available to talk to us but said | :40:37. | :41:05. | |
Stuart Bingham - the 2015 World Snooker champion - | :41:06. | :41:07. | |
has been banned for 6 months for breaching WPBSA betting rules. | :41:08. | :41:10. | |
Three months and one day of the ban will be suspended. | :41:11. | :41:14. | |
David Unsworth will take temporary charge of Everton, | :41:15. | :41:16. | |
following the sacking of Ronald Kooman yesterday. | :41:17. | :41:20. | |
following the sacking of Ronald Koeman yesterday. | :41:21. | :41:22. | |
They play Chelsea in the League Cup fourth round tomorrow. | :41:23. | :41:24. | |
Rob Greenwood, the coach accused of creating a "climate of fear" | :41:25. | :41:28. | |
within the British para-swimming setup, has been given | :41:29. | :41:30. | |
the "full support backing" of the British Swimming Coaches | :41:31. | :41:32. | |
and is yet to comment publicly about the findings. | :41:33. | :41:39. | |
And twelve-time Grand Slam champion Novak Djokovic is set | :41:40. | :41:41. | |
to play his first match since Wimbledon at the World Tennis | :41:42. | :41:44. | |
The world number seven, whose season ended early in August | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
because of an elbow injury, is set to play in the Abu | :41:49. | :41:50. | |
Dhabi exhibition event at the end of December. | :41:51. | :42:01. | |
Redundancies, cutting the subjects on offer, | :42:02. | :42:02. | |
asking for extra money from parents, teachers bringing in their own | :42:03. | :42:07. | |
They're all ways that schools have coped with cuts | :42:08. | :42:10. | |
in their budgets from central government. | :42:11. | :42:11. | |
This morning parents, teachers and school support workers | :42:12. | :42:13. | |
are gathering at Parliament this morning to protest. | :42:14. | :42:15. | |
Schools in England have been promised an extra ?1.3 billion over | :42:16. | :42:18. | |
two years but the Institute for Fiscal Studies says it means | :42:19. | :42:21. | |
a real-terms freeze on school budgets for two years. | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
We can now speak to two people attending today's rally. | :42:27. | :42:29. | |
Michelle Sheehy is the head teacher of a primary school | :42:30. | :42:31. | |
in the West Midlands who says her staff do bring | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
in their own supplies, and in the next two years she's | :42:36. | :42:38. | |
faced with making at least one teacher redundant. | :42:39. | :42:42. | |
She's also a member of the head teachers union. | :42:43. | :42:44. | |
Flora Page is a mother whose daughters aged 5 and 13 went | :42:45. | :42:47. | |
She says she's seen big differences because of funding cuts. | :42:48. | :42:57. | |
Thank you both for coming in. How bad is it? Think it is much worse | :42:58. | :43:05. | |
than anybody realises. I have, I am the head teacher for a primary | :43:06. | :43:09. | |
school, I am the head teacher a junior school as well, and I had the | :43:10. | :43:13. | |
opportunity to do that because I was faced with a situation where I did | :43:14. | :43:18. | |
have to make somebody redundant or I had to think of something innovative | :43:19. | :43:25. | |
to do, so I am now head teach over two schools which means my salary is | :43:26. | :43:30. | |
shared, which means it is put off any redundancies possibly for a year | :43:31. | :43:35. | |
or two. But you foe, we are protected to have a deficit of | :43:36. | :43:40. | |
100,000 in two years' time, so we are going to have to think again. So | :43:41. | :43:44. | |
what things have you, up to this point what have you had to cut? | :43:45. | :43:48. | |
Well, what we have tried to do is protect the children as much as | :43:49. | :43:53. | |
possible, so it is the teachers really that have, they have given | :43:54. | :43:59. | |
extra time without being paid. For example, we took some children on | :44:00. | :44:05. | |
residential, two of our staff stayed camping for two weeks, straight, | :44:06. | :44:09. | |
doing all the cooking, and looking after the children, as they were, we | :44:10. | :44:13. | |
kept changing the cohorts that were staying there. And they are | :44:14. | :44:18. | |
prepareded that for no extra money at all. It is things like that and | :44:19. | :44:24. | |
staff are bringing in things to give the ching new e pences and unless I | :44:25. | :44:29. | |
tell them, you really must charge this to school they don't. What do | :44:30. | :44:33. | |
you say to staff? They shouldn't really be doing it? I think that | :44:34. | :44:37. | |
shouldn't and I tell them they shouldn't. When all is said and done | :44:38. | :44:40. | |
they are there for the children, it is no hike a business, it is a | :44:41. | :44:44. | |
school, it is little people, and it is is really important to give | :44:45. | :44:50. | |
children such a wide range of activities, you know, there is no | :44:51. | :44:53. | |
point in sitting them in a class room and filling their heads with | :44:54. | :44:57. | |
knowledge, they can go and look anything they want to, up on Google | :44:58. | :45:01. | |
for example. We need to have children of the future who are | :45:02. | :45:07. | |
resilient who are able to problem solve, invent thing, you know, and | :45:08. | :45:11. | |
think for themselves basically, that is why we try hard to keep such a | :45:12. | :45:14. | |
wide range. Why are you taking part today? For | :45:15. | :45:22. | |
the same reasons really, it is about making sure that the next generation | :45:23. | :45:27. | |
of children are fit for the future world. Just sort of taking things | :45:28. | :45:34. | |
back to basics, keeping kids in classrooms in rows, doing things | :45:35. | :45:38. | |
because they're cheap is not the way that will build a society that is | :45:39. | :45:42. | |
able to cope with everything that the future's going to throw at them. | :45:43. | :45:49. | |
Your two youngest children are eight years apart, but attend the same | :45:50. | :45:54. | |
primary school. How have things changed. Where schools have faced | :45:55. | :46:02. | |
cuts it is obvious that some of the vacancies that have come up through | :46:03. | :46:06. | |
staff leaving haven't been readvertised. The PTA at our primary | :46:07. | :46:15. | |
school is very active and they raise money, but the increasingly the | :46:16. | :46:19. | |
school without perhaps wanting to directly ask, is looking for ways to | :46:20. | :46:25. | |
try to fill their problems from the PTA coughers and -- coffers. To | :46:26. | :46:33. | |
asking for money? Yes. Which is, the PTA is part of that full enrichment | :46:34. | :46:37. | |
about giving children opportunities to see, to explore the world, to be | :46:38. | :46:44. | |
inventive and creative, all the things that will be important for | :46:45. | :46:48. | |
them in adult lie, but yet it costs money. | :46:49. | :46:51. | |
The Minister for School Standards Nick Gibb said: | :46:52. | :46:57. | |
"The fact is that under this government, there are 1.8m more | :46:58. | :47:00. | |
children being taught in good or outstanding schools than in 2010. | :47:01. | :47:02. | |
The claims being made by the trade union about school funding | :47:03. | :47:05. | |
There are no cuts in funding - every school will see an increase | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
in funding through the formula from 2018." | :47:10. | :47:20. | |
Nineteen years ago after years of sexual harassment | :47:21. | :47:22. | |
as Harvey Weinstein's assistant, Zelda Perkins decided | :47:23. | :47:23. | |
She quit after another colleague told her she had been sexually | :47:24. | :47:27. | |
Solicitors advised both women to seek damages from Weinstein | :47:28. | :47:34. | |
and the sum of ?250,000 was split between them on the proviso | :47:35. | :47:37. | |
they signed a Disclosure Agreement forbidding them from | :47:38. | :47:39. | |
Since the many Weinstein allegations of rape, | :47:40. | :47:46. | |
sexual assault and harassment have come to light, Zelda Perkins has | :47:47. | :47:49. | |
Refusing to be silenced, she has spoken to the Financial Times | :47:50. | :47:55. | |
journalist Matthew Garrahan about the pressure these | :47:56. | :47:57. | |
Can I ask you first of all, how you both made contact? We had a mutual | :47:58. | :48:14. | |
friend who approached me and we spoke a couple of times and then at | :48:15. | :48:19. | |
length again in the last few days. We put the story together over the | :48:20. | :48:25. | |
weekend and it ran, it is running in the newspaper this morning. But it | :48:26. | :48:29. | |
took a long time to get the story for her to talk about, to go through | :48:30. | :48:33. | |
the background of what happened to her and the result is this big | :48:34. | :48:41. | |
disclosure by her. She is breaking this non-disclosure agreement that | :48:42. | :48:50. | |
has kept her silent for 19 years. Non-disclosure doesn't mean | :48:51. | :48:52. | |
liability, but what are the implications of breaking that | :48:53. | :48:57. | |
agreement? Well, I mean, the big one is she could be sued. She has broken | :48:58. | :49:02. | |
a contract she signed with Harvey Weinstein and there are all sorts of | :49:03. | :49:07. | |
obligations she made to him and his company that he ran about keeping | :49:08. | :49:11. | |
quiet. But the big issue here and why this is so interesting, is | :49:12. | :49:15. | |
because she was asked to keep quiet about lots of different things. She | :49:16. | :49:21. | |
had to promise never to tell any friends or relatives or give the | :49:22. | :49:26. | |
names of any relatives she spoke to. She had to promise in the event of a | :49:27. | :49:31. | |
criminal investigation about Harvey Weinstein she would say nice things | :49:32. | :49:36. | |
about him. The other bombshell is the biggest law firm in London | :49:37. | :49:40. | |
representing Harvey Weinstein, it is the firm that put together this | :49:41. | :49:45. | |
water tight agreement. I think nearly 20 years on, she shies it is | :49:46. | :49:55. | |
the right -- she feels it is the right time that talk. Have you spoke | :49:56. | :50:01. | |
on the her today? Yes, she is feeling a range of emotions. This is | :50:02. | :50:05. | |
something she didn't talk about for such a long time. She wants to shine | :50:06. | :50:12. | |
a light on the process, the non-disclosure agreement process and | :50:13. | :50:15. | |
the complicity of law firms and the way the rich and powerful can use | :50:16. | :50:20. | |
them to keep people quiet. We will have to leave it. And breaking a | :50:21. | :50:28. | |
non-disclosure agreement does not mean liability. Harvey Weinstein all | :50:29. | :50:36. | |
along has denied any allegations of nonconsensual sexual activity. | :50:37. | :50:50. | |
The law on abortion is under review in Northern Ireland. | :50:51. | :50:54. | |
This Friday marks 50 years since the Abortion Act, | :50:55. | :50:56. | |
when termination became a legal option for women not | :50:57. | :50:58. | |
wanting to continue their pregnancy, up to 24 weeks. | :50:59. | :51:00. | |
But unlike the rest of the UK, abortion is illegal in almost all | :51:01. | :51:03. | |
circumstances in Northern Ireland and women can face up | :51:04. | :51:06. | |
It's estimated that 12 women travel from the country to the UK every | :51:07. | :51:12. | |
day to access a safe and legal termination. | :51:13. | :51:13. | |
Our reporter Catrin Nye went to Belfast earlier this year | :51:14. | :51:16. | |
A few weeks after Sarah's wedding, she found out she was pregnant. | :51:17. | :51:20. | |
It was all planned, she was delighted, but then | :51:21. | :51:22. | |
There was nothing above the baby's eyes basically, there was no | :51:23. | :51:26. | |
Sarah's baby had anencephaly, which occurs in about six | :51:27. | :51:37. | |
There is no treatment, and babies with it die | :51:38. | :51:41. | |
before they are born, or shortly after birth. | :51:42. | :51:45. | |
To not have a baby at the end of it, I felt like I couldn't... | :51:46. | :51:48. | |
We didn't call it an abortion, we said we wanted a medical | :51:49. | :51:52. | |
termination, and that's all it is, and they said, "Sorry we can't help | :51:53. | :51:56. | |
you, you would have to go abroad, go across the water". | :51:57. | :52:00. | |
Unlike the rest of the UK, abortion is illegal here | :52:01. | :52:02. | |
in Northern Ireland, in almost all circumstances. | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
That meant that at 21 weeks pregnant Sarah had to travel to London | :52:08. | :52:10. | |
It is that experience that means she is involved in this court case. | :52:11. | :52:17. | |
Grainne Teggart is Campaigns Manager for Northern Ireland | :52:18. | :52:19. | |
Sarah Ewart had to travel to England for a termination after her baby | :52:20. | :52:24. | |
Alban Maginness recently left the Social Democratic | :52:25. | :52:34. | |
and Labour Party in Northern Ireland as a member of the legislative | :52:35. | :52:37. | |
assembly - he is anti-abortion and says people may only be | :52:38. | :52:39. | |
"for or against" and there is no in between. | :52:40. | :52:46. | |
Thank you for joining us. This is day one, the Supreme Court will | :52:47. | :52:54. | |
examine whether Northern Ireland's strict abortion laws breach human | :52:55. | :52:56. | |
rights. What are you hoping will happen? We're hoping that the court | :52:57. | :53:01. | |
will do what our politicians have pailed to do and -- failed failed to | :53:02. | :53:11. | |
to do and bring about a change in the law. It is very important that | :53:12. | :53:15. | |
we acknowledge the difficult circumstances that women in Northern | :53:16. | :53:21. | |
Ireland find themselves in. When the law makes abortion illegal that | :53:22. | :53:27. | |
doesn't mean that abortion doesn't happen. It just makes it difficult | :53:28. | :53:30. | |
for women. In what circumstances is it legal? It is legal in theory | :53:31. | :53:36. | |
where there is a substantial risk to the life and the mental health of | :53:37. | :53:40. | |
woman. But we know from our work that it is very difficult to get a | :53:41. | :53:44. | |
lawful termination in Northern Ireland. Only 16 women were able to | :53:45. | :53:56. | |
access termination for 2015/2016 and 600 travelled to the rest of the UK. | :53:57. | :54:01. | |
Sarah, how do you feel about what is happen something We have been going | :54:02. | :54:05. | |
at this for four years, it has been a very long time. I'm just hoping | :54:06. | :54:10. | |
that the Supreme Court with help us and change the law for women who end | :54:11. | :54:15. | |
up in circumstances that I found myself in. Why was a termination | :54:16. | :54:22. | |
right for you? I had many conversations with my consultant and | :54:23. | :54:26. | |
they assured me the condition my baby had, it was never going to have | :54:27. | :54:31. | |
a chance of surviving. I felt I couldn't continue with my pregnancy. | :54:32. | :54:35. | |
For me, I just wanted the process over, the pregnancy, the end as soon | :54:36. | :54:40. | |
as possible. As someone knowing the outcome and what happened next would | :54:41. | :54:43. | |
be different because of where you live, how did you feel about that | :54:44. | :54:47. | |
and what was the process from then? It was very scary to find out we had | :54:48. | :54:55. | |
the travel abroad. The extra stress emotionally and financially... It | :54:56. | :54:58. | |
wasn't needed. We should have had this done at home with our own | :54:59. | :55:05. | |
medicals. It is a medical procedure. Alban, how significant in Northern | :55:06. | :55:09. | |
Ireland politics is today's appeal? I think it is very significant | :55:10. | :55:16. | |
indeed, the Northern Ireland court of appeal decided that there was no | :55:17. | :55:26. | |
right, no human right to abortion in any circumstance in relation to the | :55:27. | :55:30. | |
pregnancy of a woman in Northern Ireland. They did so on the basis of | :55:31. | :55:40. | |
the rights of European court and said the local Assembly has a | :55:41. | :55:43. | |
discretion as to whether or not to introduce that sort of legislation. | :55:44. | :55:49. | |
So I think that the Supreme Court will have a constitutional issue to | :55:50. | :55:54. | |
address today, as much as the issue of abortion itself. And I think that | :55:55. | :55:58. | |
the Northern Ireland court of appeal got it right, because it totally is | :55:59. | :56:03. | |
consistent with the European convention on human rights. 700 | :56:04. | :56:08. | |
women a year are travelling from Northern Ireland to England, Wales | :56:09. | :56:13. | |
and Scotland for the procedure, the abortion act was legalised in | :56:14. | :56:18. | |
England Wales and Scotland. Isn't it time to bring Northern Ireland | :56:19. | :56:24. | |
up-to-date. And you have had 8 million abortions. That is a sad | :56:25. | :56:30. | |
reflection on the people of Britain that such a terrible tool of life of | :56:31. | :56:36. | |
babies in the womb has taken place. But what I say is this, we should be | :56:37. | :56:42. | |
looking after those women who feel, who have a crisis pregnancy, we | :56:43. | :56:46. | |
should be investing money in supporting them and giving them the | :56:47. | :56:49. | |
best possibility medical treatment. I would like you to talk directly to | :56:50. | :56:58. | |
Sarah, what would you have to say to Sarah. I have talked to her before | :56:59. | :57:06. | |
and I believe it is a matter of the human right of the infant that the | :57:07. | :57:15. | |
mother is in fact carrying that the infant is entitled to protection, | :57:16. | :57:20. | |
the human rights protection as in the European convention of human | :57:21. | :57:25. | |
life, article two of that convention. I think Sarah should | :57:26. | :57:28. | |
have been given the proper support that she required in order to | :57:29. | :57:34. | |
deliver the baby. The baby and... Many mothers have had their babies | :57:35. | :57:39. | |
delivered in similar circumstances. Sarah, your response to that? I had | :57:40. | :57:44. | |
many, well four scans and I was offered another and at one meeting | :57:45. | :57:49. | |
with my consultant, he said the baby I was carrying was like a baby on a | :57:50. | :57:53. | |
life support machine and when its you turn that off. I don't think it | :57:54. | :57:57. | |
is fair for me to be forced to carry a baby that has no chance of living | :57:58. | :58:03. | |
life independently and I totally admire the women who can go through | :58:04. | :58:07. | |
with the pregnancies and carry on, but I just felt I couldn't do that | :58:08. | :58:11. | |
and it needs to be that option there for women who can't do it. What do | :58:12. | :58:14. | |
you think the outcome of this will be? We hope the Supreme Court will | :58:15. | :58:21. | |
correct the human rights abuse against women and this is the 50 | :58:22. | :58:27. | |
years of Abortion Act. Thank you we are out of time. | :58:28. | :58:32. |