08/11/2017 Victoria Derbyshire


08/11/2017

News and current affairs programme. Including the Priti Patel row, the secretive world of female Freemasons and a report on the more than 260,000 homeless people in England.


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Hello, it's Wednesday, it's 9am,

I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

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Welcome to the programme.

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Can the International Development

Secretary hang on to her job? She

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has been ordered to fly back from a

trip to Africa to face the music.

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Priti Patel didn't tell the Prime

Minister about all the meetings she

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had with Israeli officials.

Is it

time the Secretary of State faces a

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Cabinet Office investigation or does

the decent thing and just resigns.

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We've had exclusive access

to one of the world's

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most hidden societies -

the freemasons - famous

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Do you use secret hand shakes?

Of

course, we do.

Can you do it with me

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now?

No, it's a secret.

What happens

and when do you do it?

It's a

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secret.

It is fascinating. We will

find out too if claims and

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corruption and collusion amongst the

female Freemasons is true. The

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number of homeless people in England

has gone up according to Shelter.

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They say there are over 260,000 home

people in this country. That's

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around the population of Newcastle.

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Hello and welcome to the programme.

We're live until 11am.

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Are you officially homeless? You

will know that definition includes

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anyone on the streets or in

temporary accommodation? If that's

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you, let me know what led to your

homelessness and what is happening

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to help you get somewhere permanent?

We will talk about that after 10am.

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The International Development

Secretary's future in the Cabinet is

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in doubt after details emerged of

further undisclosed meetings she had

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with Israeli politicians. It is

believed Priti Patel, who is flying

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back from Uganda at the request of

Theresa May, had two more meetings

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after she returned from her summer

holiday in Israel, but failed to

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tell the Prime Minister about them

when she spoke to Mrs May on Monday.

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Norman Smith is at Westminster. So

she will be on a plane shortly. Is

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that because Mrs May wants to sack

her to her face?

She is on the plane

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now, somewhere over the Sudan. She

caught a flight back from Nairobi a

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short time ago at the request of

Downing Street and I think we can

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take it from that she will be

summoned into Number Ten to explain

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what she didn't tell the Prime

Minister when she was called in for

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that face-to-face meeting on Monday

to come clean, to receive that

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formal rebuke, reprimand, warning

about her conduct, why at that

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meeting she didn't come clean and

tell the Prime Minister all the

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different meetings she had with

different Israeli Prime Ministers,

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politicians, because it now

transpires there were two further

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meetings which she neglected to tell

Mrs May about. At both those

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meetings, there were no other

government officials there as they

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normally are, at both those

meetings, The President of the

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conservative Friends of Israel was

also there and they were not

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recorded and reported in the normal

way. Highly, highly unusual

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behaviour which she didn't tell the

Prime Minister about. More than

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that, she didn't tell the Prime

Minister also that she had asked her

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department to look into providing

tax payers cash to go to the Israeli

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army on the occupied October Golan

Heights. She misled the Prime

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Minister and more than that, she

misled Parliament because her number

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two had to go to the Commons

yesterday to explain she had been up

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to and he wasn't in the loop with

her ties with Israeli politicians.

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The expectation is she will get into

London at 3pm. And she will be

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hauled in front of the Prime

Minister and asked to give her

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version of events and then she will

be sacked.

Go that does happen, and

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Mrs May ends up losing her

International Development Secretary,

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a week after her Defence Secretary

resigned. What does it mean for Mrs

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May's government?

It is bad, bad,

bad, but it could be worse. Yes, of

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course losing a second minister in

less than a week is a nightmare. You

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also do not want someone like Priti

Patel, highly ambitious leading face

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of Brexit on the backbenches

breathing down your neck, but look

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at it this, what if Mrs May bottled

and decided to turn the other cheek

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and not boot her out of the Cabinet,

how weak would that look and in a

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way, the Prime Minister has no other

options. Priti Patel has already had

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to issue in inverted commas

clarifications. She has already had

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to apologise. She has already

received a formal rep pra manned

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from the Prime Minister. What more

can Mrs May do but sack her. Yes,

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it's bad, but believe you me t could

possibly be even worse if she did

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nothing.

Thank you, Norman. Thank you very

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much.

More reaction on that story at

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9.15am.

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Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary

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of the rest of the day's news.

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Donald Trump has arrived in Beijing

as he continues his tour of Asia.

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The American President took a tour

of the Forbidden City

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in the capital alongside his Chinese

counterpart, Xi Jinping.

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Mr Trump is expected to ask China

to cut its financial

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links with North Korea.

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Speaking in South Korea earlier,

Mr Trump urged all countries to join

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forces to isolate Pyongyang,

saying the world could not tolerate

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a rogue nation that threatened

nuclear devastation.

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The weapons you are acquiring are

not making you safer. They are

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putting your regime in grave danger.

Every step you take down this dark

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path, increases the peril you face.

Yet despite every crime you have

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committed against god and man, you

are already to offer and we will do

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that. We will offer a path to a much

better future.

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Our China Correspondent,

Stephen McDonnell, is in Beijing.

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What sort of hearing are the Chinese

likely to give to that request from

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President Trump that they cut their

financial ties with North Korea?

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Well, I'm standing outside the

Forbidden City where Donald Trump

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and Xi Jinping and their wives met

and had a cup of tea and an informal

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chat. N sure if they have had this

difficult conversation. As to what

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the Chinese will say to Donald

Trump. There is a difference of

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view, Donald Trump said that he has

called on Russia and China to fully

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implement the UN sanctions against

North Korea. China says well, we are

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already doing that. Donald Trump

said this morning, he rhetorically

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asked the question, why would China

be supporting the regime in North

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Korea, given its horrendous Human

Rights record and its nuclear

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weapons programme. Again, the

Chinese would say, we are doing more

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than anyone else is to try and

pressure North Korea to come to the

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table. But really the challenge for

both of them is to come up with

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something that will further this

process because North Korea is

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showing no inclination whatsoever

that it is prepared to talk about

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giving up nuclear weapons. It wants

the world to accept it as a nuclear

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weapons nation and Vladimir Putin

said the North Koreans would rather

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eat grass than give up their nuclear

weapons. So possibly, if he's right,

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it doesn't matter how much pressure,

China, the US, South Korea, Japan

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can bring to bear on North Korea,

they won't give up their nuclear

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weapons, we will have to see if

Donald Trump and his Chinese

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counterpart, Xi Jinping, can come up

with anything which might move this

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along.

Stephen, thank you very much.

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The Prince of Wales has been

criticised for failing to disclose

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an investment by his private estate

in an offshore company.

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The revelations come from a number

of leaked documents about tax havens

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known as the Paradise Papers.

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It's the second time

this week that a member

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of the Royal Family has been named.

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Andy Verity reports.

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Prince Charles has campaigned

on the environment for decades

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and especially for the rainforest.

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Today, he is due to arrive in India,

after flying from Malaysia,

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as criticism grew at home

of his failure to disclose

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a secret financial stake

in a company in Bermuda.

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On the right here is the late

Hugh van Cutsem, one

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of the Prince's oldest friends.

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He was a director of Sustainable

Forestry Management Limited,

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a firm that managed tropical

rainforests, registered in Bermuda.

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The company wanted to trade

in carbon credits, but tropical

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rainforests weren't included

in carbon credit trading schemes

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so it needed the rules changed.

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In February 2007, the Duchy bought

50 shares in van Cutsem's

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company worth $113,500.

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At that time, SFM's directors

agreed to keep the Duchy's

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shares confidential.

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Mr van Cutsem asked for lobbying

documents to be sent to the Prince's

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office and soon the Prince

was making speeches campaigning

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for changes to two international

agreements on carbon credits.

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In June 2008, the Duchy

sold its shares for $325,000,

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a profit of more than $200,000.

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Well, I think it's

a serious conflict.

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There's a conflict of interest

between his own investments

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of the Duchy of Cornwall

and what he's trying

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to achieve publicly.

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Clarence House said,

"The Prince does not have

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any direct involvement

in the investment decisions taken

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by the Duchy and he has certainly

never chosen to speak out on a topic

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simply because of a company that it

may have invested in."

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There's no suggestion of illegality,

nor that Prince Charles's

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campaigning caused the share price

of his friend's company to rise.

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Nor is it suggested that the Duchy

was seeking to avoid tax.

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The First Minister of Wales,

Carwyn Jones, is under pressure

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to give details about his decision

to sack Carl Sargeant

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a member of his Cabinet

who was found dead yesterday.

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He told Mr Sargeant

to leave his post last week

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because of unspecified allegations

about his behaviour.

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One Labour member of

the Welsh Assembly said

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there was "deep

unease" in the group.

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Thousands of people with the most

advanced cancers in England are now

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surviving for several years

after diagnosis,

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according to new research.

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MacMillan Cancer Support said this

is down to the success

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of new treatments but it warned

living longer with advanced cancer

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can bring its own difficulties.

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Our Health Correspondent

Sophie Hutchinson reports.

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Carol Fenton has lived

with stage four breast cancer

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for the past two years.

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The tumour has spread from where it

started to another organ.

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She says living with this level

of disease has meant

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a lot of uncertainty.

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The breast cancer has

actually spread to my spine,

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my right and left hip and also

in my liver.

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And it's incredibly devastating

to hear that when, you know,

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I was doing so well.

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Today, the charity MacMillan Cancer

Support says thousands of people

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are now living longer

with advanced cancer.

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Figures from England's National

Cancer Register from 2015 suggest

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at least 17,000 people survived

for two years or more

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after a stage four diagnosis.

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They include people with breast,

prostate, lung and bowel cancer.

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The charity says it's the first time

survival figures for advanced cancer

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have been publicly available

and shows the impact of improved

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treatments for patients.

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I am taking oral chemotherapy.

I'm on my third range of treatment.

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There has been some progression

in that two and a half years

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but my scans have been

stable since January.

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I've been on the same

treatment since January,

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which is incredibly good news.

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Today's report is calling for better

support and care for people

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like Carol so that they can live

as long as possible and as well as

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possible with the disease.

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The head of NHS England will warn

today that the public wants to see

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promises on NHS funding

made during the EU

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referendum campaign

honoured by the government.

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Simon Stevens will tell a health

conference that trust

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in the democratic process will be

weakened, if higher

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funding is not delivered.

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Five rail operators are facing

disruption due to strike action

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by the Rail, Maritime

and Transport union.

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Workers on Southern, Greater Anglia

and South Western Railway

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are striking for 48 hours,

while staff on Merseyrail

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and Northern have walked

out for 24 hours.

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The union is in dispute over

driver-only operated trains.

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Sheep might not have the reputation

for being the cleverest of animals,

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but new research shows they can

learn to recognise human faces.

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A group of Welsh Mountain sheep

had special training

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after which they could pick out

the faces of celebrities actors

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Jake Gyllenhaal and Emma Watson

and former US President Barack

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Obama.

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They were tested to see if they

could identify the famous faces

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among other photos.

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Researchers say it shows sheep

possess similar face recognition

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abilities to primates.

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Andy Murray and his wife, Kim, have

announced the birth of their second

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child. The couple gave birth to a

baby girl.

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If you wonder why Fiona Bruce's name

is on Twitter, it is because the

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sheep were trying to recognise her

as well!

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Norman Smith told us that Priti

Patel is on a plane back to the UK

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now. She didn't tell the Prime

Minister how many meetings she had

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with Israeli politicians. What

should happen to her? Should she be

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sacked? What does it mean for

Theresa May's government? If you are

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getting in touch, you're welcome.

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Do get in touch with us

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use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

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Let's get some sport

with Katherine Downes.

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Andy Murray has made

a return to tennis.

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First a new baby daughter and then

the return to court. We haven't seen

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him since Wimbledon in July and then

he pulled out of the US Open two

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days before the tournament was

supposed to start. So we haven't

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seen him play since July. He had an

operation on his hip and he has been

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gradually coming back to fitness

looking perhaps for a return to

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competitive tennis at the start of

next year with an eye on the

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Australian Open in January. This is

what he had to say about his return.

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I'm in a significantly better place

than I was, you know,

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in the build-up to the US Open.

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And certainly at the end

of Wimbledon, you know,

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I was really struggling there.

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Walking was, you know,

a big problem for me, you know.

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So I just try to get

myself back to 100%.

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Yesterday he was playing in an

exhibition match against Roger

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Federer. Roger Federer missed big

chunks of the year as well but went

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on to win the Australian open and

Wimbledon by picking when he

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returned to action. This was

Federer's first visit to Scotland

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and they had a bit of fun with it.

Andy Murray wearing a Scottish hat

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and Roger Federer putting a kilt

and!

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Good to see Andy Murray back on

court. As he said, it's not about

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being world number one any more.

He's dropped out of the top ten for

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the first time in three years. He

said afterwards I just want to play

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tennis again, it's my life and my

job.

What's going on with Tyson Fury

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and the UK anti-doping agency?

The

UK anti-doping agency are a bit

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worried they are facing insolvency

over a legal battle they've got

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going on with the former heavyweight

champion Tyson Fury. He tested

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positive for steroids in June last

year. Part of his defence was that

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he ate uncastrated wild boar which

has high levels of testosterone in

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it. This case has rumbled on to the

point where Tyson Fury hasn't fought

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the two years. The agency are

worried that if he wins the appeal

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he may sue them for loss of

earnings. The UK anti-doping agency

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have an annual budget of £8 million,

so it would be financially a bit

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difficult for them if they were to

be sued by Tyson Fury. However,

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they've said they don't want to

pursue this case because it sends

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out the wrong message if they drop

it -- they said they do want to

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pursue this case because the

integrity of the sport is as

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important. Also it sends a message

to sports stars that if they carry

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on with long protracted legal

proceedings they'll be able to deep

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the doping system anyway.

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Can the International

Development Secretary survive?

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It doesn't look likely -

she's been ordered this morning

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to fly back from a trip to Uganda.

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It was bad enough that she met her

boss the PM on Monday to apologise

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for arranging and holding 12 secret

meetings with Israeli politicians

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on a "family holiday" in the summer

without telling anyone in advance.

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She apologised to Mrs May

for that earlier this week,

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but it's now emerged she failed

to tell Mrs May about two further

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meetings with Israeli officials that

took place in September.

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With me is Crispin Blunt,

Conservative MP and former chair

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of the Foreign Affairs

Select Committee.

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Also joining us is Sir Desmond

Swayne, former Minister of State

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for International Development under

Prime Minister David Cameron.

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And Labour's Jon Trickett,

Shadow Cabinet Office Minister.

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Good morning gentlemen. Crispin

Blunt, she has misled her boss, she

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can't be trusted, doesn't she

deserved to lose her job?

That's

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going to be for the Prime Minister

to decide and she'll have a full

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picture.

What do you think?

She will

know who said what to who.

She

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didn't on Monday, did she?

I don't

know whether that was correct, so it

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will have to be a matter for the

Prime Minister, who will hopefully

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have people picture as to what she

said and whether the apology...

It

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doesn't look good, does it?

And

whether the apology she made

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yesterday cuts it for her. No, it

doesn't look good and if she is

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flying back from a ministerial visit

then plainly something is up. Laura

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Kuenssberg has drawn the conclusion

that sometime this morning she may

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be out of a job. It's up for the

Prime Minister to decide and time

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will tell.

You're a former

international development minister.

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Can you imagine you're then

International Development Secretary

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holding secret meetings, so many

secret meetings, with officials from

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another country including the Prime

Minister of another country, and not

0:20:230:20:26

telling anyone? Then when you were

challenged, not telling the Prime

0:20:260:20:29

Minister the full story?

Clearly

there weren't secret meetings

0:20:290:20:34

because they aren't secret.

Not now.

What has happened with respect to

0:20:340:20:40

the meetings that took place in

Israel, that has already been the

0:20:400:20:47

subject of a clear reprimand from

the Prime Minister. I'll confine

0:20:470:20:55

myself to these additional meetings

in September. All I can say is that

0:20:550:20:59

that is part of the routine business

of any department of state, and

0:20:590:21:03

particularly the Department for

International Development. I

0:21:030:21:07

conducted meetings with ministers

and officials from other countries

0:21:070:21:09

all the time, but I would not have

expected to have been reported to

0:21:090:21:14

Number 10. Of course they wouldn't

all have been properly recorded and

0:21:140:21:21

subject to any kind of search public

records.

If you found yourself in a

0:21:210:21:27

conversation with your ultimate

boss, the Prime Minister, having to

0:21:270:21:30

explain why you hadn't informed the

Foreign Office about meeting the

0:21:300:21:34

Israeli Prime Minister, at that

point might you think it would be

0:21:340:21:38

wise to mention a couple of further

meetings that happened in September?

0:21:380:21:42

You're asking me to speculate about

the nature of a meeting that I

0:21:420:21:47

wasn't at.

I'm asking you to tell me

what you would have done.

That

0:21:470:21:52

sounds entirely plausible the way

you put it. But I wasn't at that

0:21:520:21:56

meeting, and I'm not able to save

whether it would have been

0:21:560:22:00

appropriate to mention by the way I

met another minister on the 20th of

0:22:000:22:06

February or whatever it is. Of

course it's entirely plausible that

0:22:060:22:11

an opportunity may have arisen and

she ought to have used it, but

0:22:110:22:15

equally, given the nature of that

meeting that none of us were at, we

0:22:150:22:19

aren't in a position to say whether

or not it was appropriate. Only the

0:22:190:22:23

Prime Minister can make that

judgment and I'm sure she will.

What

0:22:230:22:30

do you think should happen?

You've

got a minister who has engaged in a

0:22:300:22:37

series of activities and attempted

to engage in a cover-up. She didn't

0:22:370:22:41

tell the Prime Minister of those

meetings, she had no civil servants

0:22:410:22:45

with her but a lobbyist. The two

meetings you've just heard Sir

0:22:450:22:50

Desmond referring to, actually her

department refused to set those

0:22:500:22:53

meetings up as far as we can tell.

She then used her own constituency

0:22:530:22:58

office as a way of getting around

the civil service. The point is

0:22:580:23:07

this, the Middle East is a very,

very delicate area. You cannot have

0:23:070:23:13

a cabinet minister who is not the

Foreign Secretary effectively

0:23:130:23:18

running her own foreign policy.

What

should happen to her?

She's clearly

0:23:180:23:24

broken the code of conduct.

What

should happen?

There's a code of

0:23:240:23:29

conduct, she broke it. I wrote to

the Prime Minister, I wrote again

0:23:290:23:33

yesterday. She should be sacked.

Crispin Blunt, the accusation is

0:23:330:23:38

that Priti Patel was running her own

foreign policy and also trying to

0:23:380:23:43

bolster support for any future

leadership campaign.

We are

0:23:430:23:48

extending things a bit there with

that last remark. She's always been

0:23:480:23:52

a strong supporter of Israel, and

she was on holiday in Israel and

0:23:520:23:59

decided with the support of Lord

Polak the president of the

0:23:590:24:04

conservative friends of Israel to

set up this series of meetings,

0:24:040:24:08

because they have these good

contacts. That would have been fine,

0:24:080:24:12

had the rest of the government known

about it and she could have been

0:24:120:24:15

briefed what line to take on those

meetings.

No Foreign Office

0:24:150:24:22

officials were present, no minutes

were taken.

All of that was in

0:24:220:24:26

process run, in principle wrong and

she has apologised for it. There is

0:24:260:24:31

an important duty on her coming into

this issue with Apus -- with a

0:24:310:24:38

perceived perspective that she

understands the Palestinian

0:24:380:24:45

perspective in the Israel Palestine

conflict. I chaired the Middle East

0:24:450:24:48

Council for five years and I took a

huge amount of trouble to make clear

0:24:480:24:59

that I understand the Israeli

perspective. Just so you can't be

0:24:590:25:04

charged you are unbalanced on the

issue. She and other ministers who

0:25:040:25:09

have done exactly this, no one would

accuse...

Sir Desmond, if Mrs May

0:25:090:25:25

does sack Priti Patel, what does

that mean for the stability of this

0:25:250:25:29

Conservative government?

I heard the

report from your commentator earlier

0:25:290:25:36

about the hyperbole. Actually I

don't think it makes a great deal of

0:25:360:25:39

difference.

You don't think it's

unusual that within a week

0:25:390:25:44

potentially two Cabinet ministers

are out of a job?

There are 22

0:25:440:25:49

Cabinet ministers and there are

plenty of people who can step into

0:25:490:25:54

their shoes. It will not be a huge

destabilisation. Of course it's

0:25:540:26:00

unwelcome, but it's not the

catastrophe that some commentators

0:26:000:26:04

who spend little time thinking of

little else would have us believe.

0:26:040:26:09

Crispin Blunt, can I ask you what to

think about Priti Patel

0:26:090:26:12

commissioning her department to use

taxpayers money to help potentially

0:26:120:26:16

be humanitarian work of the Israeli

army, which Alistair Burt said to

0:26:160:26:22

MPs yesterday have been ruled out

immediately by the Foreign Office

0:26:220:26:25

has not appropriate?

Because plainly

it should have made some sense to

0:26:250:26:31

her that commissioning work by the

Israeli defence Force in occupied

0:26:310:26:35

territory that we don't recognise

should have been a no-no. The task

0:26:350:26:41

that she was examining was

assistance to Syrian refugees being

0:26:410:26:44

given by the state of Israel, which

is obviously something humanitarians

0:26:440:26:51

would want to support. It's not as

black and white as it would seem but

0:26:510:26:54

it should have been black and

white...

What do you think of her

0:26:540:27:01

doing that?

She commissioned the

advice, she got the advice and it's

0:27:010:27:05

not happening. She is entitled to

ask questions and explore

0:27:050:27:09

possibilities. That's what you would

expect a minister to be doing.

0:27:090:27:12

Really? Commissioned some work to

see if British taxpayers money would

0:27:120:27:18

be sent to the Israeli army?

It's

not a straightforward as that. It

0:27:180:27:23

was money to support the medical

treatment of Syrian refugees who

0:27:230:27:27

were then coming over the border and

being dealt with...

By the Israeli

0:27:270:27:33

army

in that territory.

In disputed

territory.

The issue was that she

0:27:330:27:39

was considering was the humanitarian

one. Plainly, an imminent's

0:27:390:27:44

reflection and a consultation with

the Foreign Office about our policy

0:27:440:27:48

towards that, it wasn't appropriate.

So the internal discussions within

0:27:480:27:52

the government would reveal that and

a decision was made.

Shouldn't she

0:27:520:27:55

have known that? Come on. You're

being very kind to her.

That is

0:27:550:28:01

where she is in trouble because

she's not demonstrated that she's

0:28:010:28:04

got a real grip on the whole history

of the Israel Palestine conflict.

0:28:040:28:10

When you get into foreign policy

issues such as this, or Kashmir

0:28:100:28:14

where things are very delicate

between the competing parties, you

0:28:140:28:17

have to be very careful if you

appeared to take one side of an

0:28:170:28:21

argument, where Britain has a long

developed policy position as we do

0:28:210:28:26

on the occupied territories.

Sir

Desmond, what do you think of that,

0:28:260:28:30

commissioning the department to see

of money could be sent to the

0:28:300:28:33

Israeli army for their humanitarian

work in disputed territory?

I think

0:28:330:28:36

it would have been a short piece of

work before it emerged...

And asking

0:28:360:28:42

about the act of even asking for

work to be done.

I think it's proper

0:28:420:28:46

to ask questions and think

laterally. I did think it would have

0:28:460:28:50

taken long to come up with the

answer that that wasn't a proper way

0:28:500:28:54

to use taxpayers money.

Jon

Trickett, your take on that?

She's

0:28:540:28:58

had a series of meetings kept secret

from the Prime Minister, not told

0:28:580:29:02

the full picture of when she's met

the Prime Minister, and then she's

0:29:020:29:08

asked the Department to effectively

explore giving money, our money, to

0:29:080:29:13

the Israeli army. It's

extraordinary. The Prime Minister

0:29:130:29:17

found out about it by listening to

the radio. Come off it, this is an

0:29:170:29:23

outrageous set of actions. It's very

disturbing to the Middle East peace

0:29:230:29:26

process to even think that the

British government might do that.

0:29:260:29:31

It's why, frankly, you have to have

civil servants with you when you're

0:29:310:29:35

a senior minister meeting members of

the country's governments. She has

0:29:350:29:38

to go.

Thank you.

0:29:380:29:46

Your reaction is welcome. You can

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twitter.

0:29:500:29:53

Still to come:

0:29:530:29:54

The secret ceremonies and rituals

of Female Freemasons -

0:29:540:29:56

we get unique access.

0:29:560:30:01

It is fascinating.

0:30:010:30:06

And yet more revelations

from the leaked Paradise Papers

0:30:060:30:08

which show the tax arrangements

of the rich and powerful -

0:30:080:30:11

this time the spotlight

is on Prince Charles.

0:30:110:30:15

Time for the latest

news, here's Annita.

0:30:150:30:18

The International Development

Secretary, Priti Patel,

0:30:180:30:19

is flying back to Britain

from Africa at the request

0:30:190:30:22

of Theresa May amid growing

speculation about her future

0:30:220:30:24

in the government.

0:30:240:30:28

She had already been forced

to apologise for a series

0:30:280:30:31

of unauthorised meetings

while on a family holiday in Israel.

0:30:310:30:33

It has now emerged she had further

talks which she failed to disclose

0:30:330:30:36

to the Prime Minister.

0:30:360:30:42

Donald Trump has arrived in Beijing

as he continues his tour of Asia.

0:30:420:30:45

The American President took a tour

of the Forbidden City

0:30:450:30:48

in the capital, alongside his

Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping.

0:30:480:30:51

Mr Trump is expected to ask China

to cut its financial

0:30:510:30:53

links with North Korea.

0:30:530:30:56

Speaking in South Korea earlier,

Mr Trump urged all countries to join

0:30:560:30:59

forces to isolate Pyongyang,

saying the world could not tolerate

0:30:590:31:02

a rogue nation that threatened

nuclear devastation.

0:31:020:31:09

The head of NHS England will warn

today that the public wants to see

0:31:090:31:13

promises on NHS funding,

made during the EU

0:31:130:31:17

referendum campaign,

honoured by the government.

0:31:170:31:19

Simon Stevens will tell a health

conference that trust

0:31:190:31:21

in the democratic process will be

weakened, if higher

0:31:210:31:23

funding is not delivered.

0:31:230:31:32

The Prince of Wales has been

criticised for failing to disclose

0:31:320:31:34

an investment by his private estate

in an off-shore company. The

0:31:340:31:38

revelations come in a number of

leaked documents known as the

0:31:380:31:42

Paradise Papers. It is the second

time this week a member of the Royal

0:31:420:31:46

Family has been named.

Sky said it will consider closing

0:31:460:31:50

Sky News if it becomes a stumbling

block in its proposed merger with

0:31:500:31:58

21st Century Fox.

Thousands of people with the most

0:31:580:32:09

advanced cancers in England are

surviving longer after diagnosis.

0:32:090:32:15

Macmillan cancer said it was due to

the success of new treatments, but

0:32:150:32:19

it warned that living longer with

advanced cancers brings its own

0:32:190:32:24

difficulties. And that's a summary

of the latest BBC News.

0:32:240:32:27

If you want to find out more about

people living with advanced cancer,

0:32:270:32:31

there is more on our website. It is

really, really interesting.

0:32:310:32:36

Here's some sport now

with Katherine Downes.

0:32:360:32:46

It has been a busy 24

hours for Andy Murray -

0:32:520:32:55

welcoming his second

daughter with his wife Kim -

0:32:550:32:57

and making a return to court to play

an exhibition match

0:32:570:33:00

against Roger Federer -

its the first time he's played

0:33:000:33:02

in public since Wimbledon in July.

0:33:020:33:04

The UK Anti-Doping Agency say

they're worried an ongoing case

0:33:040:33:06

against Tyson Fury -

he tested positive for a banned

0:33:060:33:09

steroid last June -

and UKAD say if he sues them

0:33:090:33:11

for loss of earnings,

they will be bankrupt.

0:33:110:33:13

They're believed to have

asked the Government

0:33:130:33:15

to underwrite the case.

0:33:150:33:16

England's women are gearing up

for their must-win Ashes Test

0:33:160:33:18

which starts tomorrow -

while Mark Stoneman and Joe Root

0:33:180:33:21

have both scored half centuries

in one of the men's two warm up

0:33:210:33:24

matches before their series starts

at the end of the month.

0:33:240:33:26

I will will have more at 10am.

0:33:260:33:28

When many of us think of freemasons

we think of secret handshakes

0:33:280:33:31

and rolled-up trouser legs.

0:33:310:33:40

In a UK first this programme has

been given access to see exactly

0:33:400:33:43

what goes on behind the scenes

in the initiations,

0:33:430:33:45

ceremonies and rituals.

0:33:450:33:46

But not with the male freemasons

you might be familiar with,

0:33:460:33:51

we've had exclusive access to two

female fraternities.

0:33:510:33:53

Claire Jones has this

exclusive report.

0:33:530:33:57

They are one of the most secretive

organisations in the world.

0:33:570:34:03

There are certain secrets

that you have to earn.

0:34:030:34:12

PIANO MUSIC.

0:34:120:34:14

Famous for unexplained rituals.

0:34:140:34:18

Where were you first

prepared to be a Freemason?

0:34:180:34:20

In my heart.

0:34:200:34:21

Describe the mode

of your preparation.

0:34:210:34:23

My right arm, left breast...

0:34:230:34:26

There has been this notion

that we somehow use

0:34:260:34:29

goats in our rituals,

because we are somehow Satanic.

0:34:290:34:34

And they face regular

accusations of corruption.

0:34:340:34:36

There are people who are

genuinely afraid to declare

0:34:360:34:38

that they are Freemasons.

0:34:380:34:42

There are no more corrupt

than anybody else.

0:34:420:34:48

They are no more corrupt

than anybody else.

0:34:480:34:50

Whenever anything bad happens,

there are a whole horde of people

0:34:500:34:52

who are digging to see

whether freemasonry was involved.

0:34:520:34:54

All the men in my

family are Freemasons.

0:34:540:34:56

I'm the only girl

to go into masonry.

0:34:560:34:58

If a man can go in, so can I.

0:34:580:35:02

For the first time, we've been

given access inside this

0:35:020:35:04

highly secretive society,

to find out the truth

0:35:040:35:06

behind the intrigue.

0:35:060:35:14

We have nothing to

hide that's sinister.

0:35:140:35:17

We aren't trying to take over

the world come despite all these

0:35:170:35:20

conspiracy theorists.

0:35:200:35:21

THEY SING.

0:35:210:35:28

The Freemasons are a secretive

society that practice

0:35:300:35:34

rituals in a temple

and promote brotherly love.

0:35:340:35:38

Although they've always been

associated with men,

0:35:380:35:44

we've gained access to the two

female Freemason groups in the UK,

0:35:440:35:48

the Order of Women Freemasons

and the Honourable Fraternity

0:35:480:35:50

of Ancient Freemasons.

0:35:500:35:52

This looks like any other leafy

street in central London,

0:35:520:35:55

but this is the international

headquarters of one of the most

0:35:550:35:57

secretive and mysterious

organisations in the world.

0:35:570:36:00

For the first time,

they are exclusively

0:36:000:36:01

opening their doors to us.

0:36:010:36:07

ORGAN MUSIC.

0:36:080:36:11

This is the Order

of Women Freemasons.

0:36:110:36:14

There's a meeting today

for the quarterly communication

0:36:140:36:18

of Grand Lodge, where only members

of a certain rank can attend.

0:36:180:36:23

The most Worshipable Grandmaster,

Christine Chapman.

0:36:230:36:30

This is the second group we have

been given access to,

0:36:300:36:33

The Honourable Fraternity of Ancient

Freemasons.

0:36:330:36:37

Right Worshipful Assistant

Grandmaster, whom do you represent?

0:36:370:36:41

Prince of Architects,

Most Worshipful Grandmaster.

0:36:410:36:42

And your duty?

0:36:420:36:44

To lay plans, draw designs,

and assist the Most Worshipful

0:36:440:36:46

the Grandmaster in the execution

of her work.

0:36:460:36:53

Christine Chapman, a former

book-keeper, is hoping to be

0:36:530:36:57

re-elected to the top job

of Grandmaster for

0:36:570:36:59

another four years.

0:36:590:37:01

The Grandmaster has to lead

and guide the fraternity,

0:37:010:37:03

and she has to provide direction.

0:37:030:37:08

She is the person with whom the buck

stops if there's any problems.

0:37:080:37:11

She takes ultimate responsibility

for everything, and she is

0:37:110:37:13

the head of the fraternity.

0:37:130:37:19

The Female Freemasons

were formed in 1908.

0:37:190:37:24

Their male counterparts have been

meeting for at least 300 years.

0:37:240:37:28

Their practices involve

secret handshakes, rolling

0:37:280:37:30

up their trouser legs,

wearing blindfolds, and even

0:37:300:37:32

nooses around their necks.

0:37:320:37:35

They are currently headed up

by the Queen's cousin,

0:37:350:37:37

the Duke of Kent.

0:37:370:37:39

But Freemasons have been

accused of favouritism,

0:37:390:37:42

helping each other rise up

the career ladder and covering up

0:37:420:37:44

each other's mistakes.

0:37:440:37:51

A Home Affairs committee

have already called

0:37:510:37:52

for greater openness...

0:37:520:37:54

In 1997, there were calls from

former Home Secretary Jack Straw

0:37:540:37:56

for officers and judges to make

voluntary disclosures

0:37:560:37:58

about their membership.

0:37:580:38:06

By 2009, he scrapped the role

after the Masons threatened to take

0:38:060:38:08

the Government to court.

0:38:080:38:09

There are people who are

genuinely afraid to declare

0:38:090:38:13

that they are Freemasons

because of the public perception

0:38:130:38:16

that that somehow means

they are a corrupt individual

0:38:160:38:18

or they are somebody

who is a little bit dodgy

0:38:180:38:24

and that's categorically

not the case.

0:38:240:38:25

I would say quite

the opposite is true.

0:38:250:38:27

Over the years, sort of there has

been a negative reputation that has

0:38:270:38:31

been around Freemasonry,

especially around male

0:38:310:38:35

Freemasons around corruption

and favours going on,

0:38:350:38:37

you scratch my back

and I'll scratch yours.

0:38:370:38:39

What would you say to that?

0:38:390:38:40

Does that still happen?

0:38:400:38:42

I would say that you are

categorically not allowed

0:38:420:38:44

to use your member of Freemasonry

for either personal

0:38:440:38:46

or financial advantage.

0:38:460:38:50

It's very much frowned by us,

it's something we do not tolerate

0:38:500:38:53

at all within our organisation.

0:38:530:38:58

I've been a Freemason for over 40

years and nobody's ever offered me

0:38:580:39:01

a favour and I've never offered

anybody else a favour.

0:39:010:39:04

You hear the stories, certainly.

0:39:040:39:06

I've never come across it

in Freemasonry at all.

0:39:060:39:16

We've had the odd person that we've

had to ask leave us.

0:39:160:39:20

Since I've been Grand Master, only

one person, where their behaviour

0:39:200:39:22

was not suitable for a Freemason.

0:39:220:39:24

So what did they do

for their behaviour not to be...

0:39:240:39:28

They were convicted

in court of a criminal act.

0:39:280:39:30

Many people associate

Freemasonry with mystery.

0:39:300:39:32

Why do you think that is?

0:39:320:39:35

If it were written out

and publicised for everybody

0:39:350:39:38

to read, there would be no point

in anybody joining it

0:39:380:39:40

because there would be nothing

special left for them to discover.

0:39:400:39:47

You say it's to ensure

that it feels special

0:39:470:39:51

but people could see that

as there being something to hide.

0:39:510:39:55

No, that is the problem.

0:39:550:39:57

But we have nothing

to hide that is sinister.

0:39:570:39:59

We are not trying to take over

the world, despite all these

0:39:590:40:02

conspiracy theories on the Internet.

0:40:020:40:03

We are not trying to

overthrow the Government

0:40:030:40:05

or anything like that.

0:40:050:40:08

Do you think if it comes down to it

that it might be better to remove

0:40:080:40:12

that element of surprise?

0:40:120:40:13

No, I don't think so.

0:40:130:40:15

Even if it might mean a bad

reputation for Freemasonry.

0:40:150:40:25

We need to preserve an element

of secrecy for that reason only

0:40:250:40:28

because that's what's

made it special.

0:40:280:40:29

Has Freemasonry helped your career?

0:40:290:40:31

No, I worked in an accounts

department with lots

0:40:310:40:33

of bookkeepers and so on.

0:40:330:40:34

So no, no chance.

0:40:340:40:36

The police in particular have been

heavily linked to Freemasonry.

0:40:360:40:42

Is there any truth in police

officers who are Freemasons helping

0:40:420:40:44

people get away with crimes?

0:40:440:40:47

Not that I've ever seen.

0:40:470:40:51

We don't have many police officers

in the order of women Freemasons.

0:40:510:40:54

We do have some, I know,

but I've not seen anybody

0:40:540:40:57

being helped in that way,

so I can only speak

0:40:570:41:00

from a own experience.

0:41:000:41:07

Have you heard of Freemasons

doing favours for others?

0:41:070:41:10

Yes, I have, in the old days.

0:41:100:41:12

Many, many years ago

but that was mainly in the men

0:41:120:41:14

and they were rooted out as corrupt.

0:41:140:41:16

What sort of favours would they be?

0:41:160:41:18

Oh, you would get policemen

who were Freemasons doing

0:41:180:41:20

favours for other members.

0:41:200:41:27

Because there is obviously this view

that if you scratch my back,

0:41:270:41:30

I'll scratch yours.

0:41:300:41:31

No, it's not allowed.

0:41:310:41:32

It really, really isn't.

0:41:320:41:33

It is forbidden in our rituals.

0:41:330:41:35

You mustn't do that.

0:41:350:41:38

Have you ever heard

of that happening here?

0:41:380:41:40

Not in women's Freemasonry, no.

0:41:400:41:45

Female Freemasonry began in 1908.

0:41:490:41:55

Possessing and working

the same secrets, mysteries

0:41:550:41:56

and degrees and rituals.

0:41:560:42:03

But the society separated, creating

the two groups that exist today.

0:42:030:42:08

We broke away from the main group

in 1913 because of a difference

0:42:080:42:11

of opinion and we have stayed

separate ever since.

0:42:110:42:14

Although we are now on much

more friendly terms,

0:42:140:42:17

in the old days they didn't even

speak to each other.

0:42:170:42:26

With an ageing membership, the women

are turning to universities

0:42:260:42:29

to bring in younger members.

0:42:290:42:30

I can't believe I'm doing

this, I can't believe

0:42:300:42:32

the day has finally come.

0:42:320:42:34

It's surreal.

0:42:340:42:40

After joining the Freemasons

seven years ago, today optician

0:42:400:42:43

Roshni Patel will have a ceremony

to mark her reaching

0:42:430:42:46

the rank of a master mason.

0:42:460:42:52

I actually don't know what happens.

0:42:520:42:54

I don't know what will happen.

0:42:540:42:57

I know the beginning

of the ceremony, obviously

0:42:570:43:03

the end of the ceremony,

but as to me being put

0:43:030:43:06

in the chair, I don't know.

0:43:060:43:07

That's a secret, that's a mystery.

0:43:070:43:17

Despite opening the doors

to allow our cameras, they are not

0:43:190:43:21

letting us film everything.

0:43:210:43:23

The Order of Women Freemasons have

not allowed us to film

0:43:230:43:25

inside Roshni's

ceremony in the temple.

0:43:250:43:27

This is our grand temple.

0:43:270:43:29

Tonight, where there's

obviously a ceremony that's

0:43:290:43:34

going on that we can't get access

to, tell us why you would

0:43:340:43:38

want us to see it?

0:43:380:43:40

Because you haven't earned it.

0:43:400:43:41

Roshni has learned pieces of ritual,

she has worked hard.

0:43:410:43:44

She must have been working for five

or six years to achieve

0:43:440:43:49

the installation into this chair

and her reward for that is to be

0:43:490:43:52

given a beautiful ceremony.

0:43:520:43:55

So she will be sitting in this chair

down here at the moment before

0:43:550:43:58

she gets to progress up

into that chair.

0:43:580:44:01

What does one need to do

to prove themselves?

0:44:010:44:04

Each degree is like a little play

and it's all learned

0:44:040:44:08

by heart and recited,

so you have to learn your part

0:44:080:44:12

in it and do it well,

come to every meeting,

0:44:120:44:15

be there and be part

of the team and do your part

0:44:150:44:22

and if you are good then you get

moved onto the next step up.

0:44:220:44:25

In the lodge that's meeting tonight,

they will have a first degree,

0:44:250:44:28

a second degree and a third degree

and a ceremony of installation,

0:44:280:44:31

so that's four rituals.

0:44:310:44:40

And then you can go on to other

degrees, 33 in all,

0:44:400:44:43

if you keep going to the very top.

0:44:430:44:45

At the Honourable Fraternity

of Ancient Freemasons,

0:44:450:44:47

DeLaza is about to pass on to

another ranking society

0:44:470:44:51

called the second degree.

0:44:510:44:53

I'm feeling very happy,

I'm feeling confident.

0:44:530:44:56

I am excited, I am not nervous.

0:44:560:44:59

I am happy.

0:44:590:45:04

You will be hearing the questions

and answers shortly.

0:45:040:45:07

Now, that I would say

is the most secret thing that

0:45:070:45:09

happens in our fraternity.

0:45:090:45:10

Brethren...

0:45:100:45:12

But we are not allowed

to see everything.

0:45:120:45:15

We have got strict instructions

on what we can and can't film.

0:45:150:45:23

DeLaza is being asked

a series of questions.

0:45:230:45:25

Each answer provides an insight

into this secret organisation.

0:45:250:45:31

Where were you first

prepared to be a Freemason?

0:45:310:45:40

In my heart.

0:45:400:45:41

And where next?

0:45:410:45:45

A journey in the lodge.

0:45:450:45:46

Describe the method

of your preparation.

0:45:460:45:56

Is that what happens

in the initiation?

0:45:580:46:06

Yes, it's a symbolic way of getting

someone ready for a degree and it

0:46:060:46:09

all has different meanings,

what it represents.

0:46:090:46:10

How do you demonstrate proof

of your being a Freemason to others?

0:46:130:46:19

By sign, talking.

0:46:190:46:22

What would a sign be?

0:46:220:46:23

I took that to be maybe a handshake?

0:46:230:46:25

No, it's a particular type

of sign which demonstrates

0:46:250:46:27

you are one of those degrees

which are described.

0:46:270:46:29

And the token is this special

handshake which you would give

0:46:290:46:32

to demonstrate that you have

reached that degree.

0:46:320:46:34

So do you use secret handshakes?

0:46:340:46:36

Yes, absolutely, of course we do.

0:46:360:46:39

Can you do it now?

0:46:390:46:40

No, it's a secret.

0:46:400:46:42

What happens, and

when would you do it?

0:46:420:46:46

You would have to join to find out

and then I tell you what about it.

0:46:460:46:50

When would you use it?

0:46:500:46:55

Within the ceremonies there

are certain methods, yeah, grips.

0:46:550:46:57

Yes, they are called grips.

0:46:570:46:59

But I wouldn't use it outside

a lodge room, never.

0:46:590:47:02

Why not?

0:47:020:47:03

It's just not necessary.

0:47:030:47:04

This shaking hands,

it's just nonsense.

0:47:040:47:07

It's silly.

0:47:070:47:11

At the Order of Women's Freemasons,

it's a big moment for Roshni as one

0:47:110:47:14

of their youngest members.

0:47:140:47:15

We've had the ceremony,

it's almost over, and Roshni

0:47:150:47:17

is about to appear as a master

of the lodge.

0:47:170:47:25

Congratulations.

0:47:350:47:35

Thank you, thank you.

0:47:350:47:37

It was a lovely ceremony.

0:47:370:47:38

Well done.

0:47:380:47:39

I don't know how I feel.

0:47:390:47:40

I think I'm in shock.

0:47:400:47:42

I think it's a bit

of denial going on.

0:47:420:47:46

Thank you.

0:47:460:47:47

The whole process of me being put

into the chair, that was,

0:47:470:47:50

that was very emotional.

0:47:500:47:52

Especially by all my lodge

members, who I really

0:47:520:47:54

care about, so, yeah.

0:47:540:48:00

At the Honourable Fraternity

of Ancient Freemasons,

0:48:000:48:01

there's a problem with the vote.

0:48:010:48:04

If somebody had decided

to photocopy it, then it's void.

0:48:040:48:10

After fears some of the votes had

been spoiled, they've now been

0:48:100:48:13

recounted and the new Grand

is about be announced.

0:48:130:48:19

Most worshipful Grand Master, I am

pleased to announce that Eunace,

0:48:190:48:27

most worshipful Grand Master,

has been elected as Grand Master.

0:48:270:48:32

The result was close

but I eventually came

0:48:320:48:34

through and I am now going to be

the next Grand Master, in other

0:48:340:48:37

words I'm continuing as Grand Master

for another four years.

0:48:370:48:45

Although we were given exclusive

access, we still only gained

0:48:450:48:48

a glimpse of the workings

of this secret society.

0:48:480:48:50

There was a lot that

was off-limits to us.

0:48:500:48:52

Both groups of female Freemasons

dismissed all allegations

0:48:520:48:54

of corruption but to shake this

negative reputation and gain more

0:48:540:48:57

members, they may need to be more

transparent in future.

0:48:570:49:07

If you want to read more, go to the

website where there is more

0:49:130:49:18

information there. Is it for you?

Would you like to join? Let me know.

0:49:180:49:22

Still to come.

0:49:220:49:25

It has been one year since

Donald Trump was elected President

0:49:250:49:27

of the United States.

0:49:270:49:28

He's currently in China to discuss

North Korea amongst other things.

0:49:280:49:31

Polls suggest he has the lowest

approval rating of any

0:49:310:49:34

president in over 70 years,

we'll reflect on his year so far.

0:49:340:49:38

We'll be talking to some Trump

supporters to see if they are

0:49:380:49:44

pleased with what he's achieved in

the last 12 months.

0:49:440:49:48

There are more revelations

from the Paradise Papers -

0:49:480:49:51

a huge batch of leaked documents

detailing the financial arrangements

0:49:510:49:53

of some of world's richest people.

0:49:530:49:54

BBC Panorama has revealed that

Prince Charles campaigned to alter

0:49:540:49:57

climate-change agreements

without disclosing that his private

0:49:570:49:59

estate had a financial interest

in what he was promoting.

0:49:590:50:01

The papers show that in 2007

the Duchy of Cornwall secretly

0:50:010:50:04

bought shares worth around $113,000

in a Bermuda company that

0:50:040:50:06

would benefit from a rule change.

0:50:060:50:15

The prince's good friend

was a director of that company

0:50:150:50:18

Sustainable Forestry Management

Limited.

0:50:180:50:22

The Duchy of Cornwall says

Prince Charles has no direct

0:50:220:50:24

involvement in its investments.

0:50:240:50:30

Let's talk now to David McClure.

0:50:300:50:32

He wrote a book about royal finances

- he's previously reported

0:50:320:50:34

on Prince Charles' political

activities and potential

0:50:340:50:36

conflicts of interests.

0:50:360:50:37

Dame Margaret Hodge MP,

who last night made a speech

0:50:370:50:39

in Parliament calling for action

from the government

0:50:390:50:41

on tax avoidance.

0:50:410:50:49

And Sir Alistair Graham, the former

chairman and the committee for

0:50:490:50:52

standards in Public life. That

defence from Clarence how's that

0:50:520:50:57

Prince Charles has no direct

involvement in investments, do you

0:50:570:51:01

buy it?

The governance of the Duchy

of Cornwall is that the Prince does

0:51:010:51:07

have hands on involvement in it. But

what does that mean? Maybe he didn't

0:51:070:51:15

have direct involvement in the

choice of investments, but he set

0:51:150:51:19

the overall pattern. The pattern of

the journey, really.

Is it

0:51:190:51:26

interesting to you that one of

Prince Charles' closest friends who

0:51:260:51:30

runs this company suddenly gets

$100,000 investment from the Duchy

0:51:300:51:36

of Cornwall and then sends him

papers about carbon trading

0:51:360:51:41

arrangements?

Yes, it is interesting

in that Prince Charles didn't make

0:51:410:51:49

any public speeches about amending

the protocol of another climate

0:51:490:51:57

change agreement until after the

investment had been made, prompted

0:51:570:52:01

on the recommendation of his close

friend.

Does that damage him? Does

0:52:010:52:07

it damage the Queen?

It raises a

question about the link between

0:52:070:52:15

investment and the activities. My

concern is, if a member of the Royal

0:52:150:52:20

family wishes to lobby for change in

public policy, then I think they

0:52:200:52:25

should apply the rules that apply to

all other public officials, that

0:52:250:52:29

they have to declare any financial

interest in the area that they are

0:52:290:52:33

seeking to achieve a change.

Margaret Hodge, what do you think?

I

0:52:330:52:38

don't think Prince Charles

deliberately set out to do anything

0:52:380:52:41

wrong.

Is it a coincidence that his

close friend gets this investment?

0:52:410:52:46

What we should do to put things

right...

I will ask you that but do

0:52:460:52:52

you think it is a coincidence or is

there something more to it?

We don't

0:52:520:52:56

know but if we had greater

transparency about the affairs of

0:52:560:53:00

the Duchy of Cornwall, which we ask

for when we looked at these affairs

0:53:000:53:04

when I chaired the Public Accounts

Committee, so we knew exactly where

0:53:040:53:08

the investments went, if we had

clarity but the Prince actually

0:53:080:53:12

didn't get involved, he stayed away

from any decision around those

0:53:120:53:16

investments, and if Treasury did the

job they are supposed to do which is

0:53:160:53:19

to monitor what happens in the Duchy

of Cornwall, to defend the public

0:53:190:53:25

interest, then I don't think we

would have this embarrassing

0:53:250:53:28

conversation today on the

television, which I think brings

0:53:280:53:34

questions over a valued and highly

respected and much loved

0:53:340:53:38

institution.

If Margaret gave a

speech in Parliament about a certain

0:53:380:53:43

subject in which she shared a

financial interest, she would have

0:53:430:53:46

to declare an interest. When Prince

Charles makes a variety of speech is

0:53:460:53:51

an ecological issues while at the

same time he has had a shareholding

0:53:510:53:56

in companies, we know nothing about

it. Maybe it is totally innocuous

0:53:560:54:00

what has happened but it would be

far better if he registered all his

0:54:000:54:05

interests. What is he hiding?

Either

there is a conflict of interest or

0:54:050:54:10

he was careless?

He shouldn't really

get involved in decisions around

0:54:100:54:13

where his investments are. Both in

relation to this and in relation to

0:54:130:54:21

the story about the Queen, I think

the fact advisers felt they could

0:54:210:54:26

invest money in offshore tax havens

where there are questions about why

0:54:260:54:33

are you hiding your money and are

you avoiding tax, and perhaps also

0:54:330:54:38

in questionable companies,

demonstrates the extent to which the

0:54:380:54:43

whole way in which very rich people,

very big corporations, very powerful

0:54:430:54:49

institutions, feel that they can use

tax havens and that there should be

0:54:490:54:53

no question about it. That's really

scary. It's really ingrained in the

0:54:530:54:58

establishment of our society.

You

said that last night to Parliament.

0:54:580:55:02

He said it's the establishment norm

now for the rich and powerful. I

0:55:020:55:06

have to ask you, is that not what

your family did in the tax haven of

0:55:060:55:11

dine?

Quite rightly you ask me the

question but that was my father. It

0:55:110:55:19

was when he came out of Germany and

escaped... Well, he was a German

0:55:190:55:25

refugee. I think it was wrong and

the moment we discovered it, we

0:55:250:55:29

stopped it. But that... I can't be

held responsible for my father 's

0:55:290:55:36

actions which I would not have done.

That is absolutely fair but you want

0:55:360:55:41

transparency. When you've benefited

from the foundation based in that

0:55:410:55:45

tax haven, should you not have been

transparent and told people about

0:55:450:55:49

how much was there?

The moment we

uncovered it we closed it down...

0:55:490:55:55

When you are challenged you were

transparent.

I was, yes.

But you

0:55:550:56:00

hadn't been before that.

I've always

been completely transparent about

0:56:000:56:04

all my affairs.

You want a public

register of beneficial ownership.

0:56:040:56:10

What with that achieve? Explain why

that would deter tax evasion, tax

0:56:100:56:15

avoidance etc.

It's not a silver

bullet but it's one of a number of

0:56:150:56:19

actions I think we could take

immediately, which would deal with a

0:56:190:56:23

lot of the way in which people hide

their world, avoid tax and do worse

0:56:230:56:27

things than that. Launder money,

engage in crime and in bribery and

0:56:270:56:33

things like that. At the moment, a

lot of British Overseas Territories

0:56:330:56:39

and Crown dependencies, many of them

are tax havens. If we could open up

0:56:390:56:45

and have public registers of who

owns what where, you would

0:56:450:56:48

immediately at a stroke stop a lot

of the attempts that people have

0:56:480:56:55

tied their money and to avoid tax. I

would do that together with other

0:56:550:56:58

actions. I would toughen up our

regulatory authorities, so they

0:56:580:57:08

really go after people. Opening all

of this up to public account, that

0:57:080:57:19

immediately stops bad behaviour, it

stops people doing things wrong.

0:57:190:57:23

Another thing, there are many more

eyes looking at what's happening. At

0:57:230:57:27

the moment, where there are secret

registers of ownership, its only if

0:57:270:57:32

you are alerted to something that

you might start investigating it. We

0:57:320:57:37

have such poor resource think of

institutions like HMRC that very

0:57:370:57:41

often people get away with it.

Do

you think that opening up would make

0:57:410:57:48

a difference, would change people's

behaviour? A lot of what we've seen

0:57:480:57:53

is not legal after all.

Know but I

think increased transparency would

0:57:530:58:00

be a significant step forward. I

agree with the general approach of

0:58:000:58:04

Margaret Hodge on this matter. But

I'll sit think individuals have to

0:58:040:58:11

take responsibility for their own

standards in these matters. I still

0:58:110:58:16

think we expect members of the Royal

family to have the highest possible

0:58:160:58:21

standards, and I'm sure on most

occasions they do. It's unfortunate

0:58:210:58:26

that on this particular occasion

when there was a change of public

0:58:260:58:30

policy being sought, which would

have benefited this particular

0:58:300:58:37

investment offshore, then we should

expect any member of the Royal

0:58:370:58:47

family to declare their interest.

And if they don't know about their

0:58:470:58:50

interests, that they checked before

they made public statements.

When it

0:58:500:58:54

comes to Caribbean tax havens, maybe

some light is the best disinfectant.

0:58:540:58:59

Thank you. -- sunlight.

0:58:590:59:02

Let's get the latest weather update.

0:59:020:59:04

Let's get the latest weather update.

0:59:040:59:05

Good morning. It's been a cold start

to the day. It is still cold, we've

0:59:050:59:12

got freezing fog around Manchester

Airport for example. That is

0:59:120:59:15

dragging its heels in terms of

clearance and we've got thicker

0:59:150:59:19

cloud and patchy rain across East

Anglia and the south-east. That will

0:59:190:59:22

be eroded from the West during the

day. Many of us having a dry day

0:59:220:59:27

with sunny spells. Wet and windy

conditions coming in across the

0:59:270:59:31

north-west. The strongest winds

across the far north of Scotland and

0:59:310:59:34

the Northern Isles. Through the

evening and overnight, the band of

0:59:340:59:38

rain pushing south, turning lighter

in nature as it does so. We'll see

0:59:380:59:45

some frost in the Glens of Scotland

and it will be called to start the

0:59:450:59:48

day tomorrow in the far south-east.

Then the weather front trundles

0:59:480:59:52

down, clearing the south-east,

leaving some residual cloud in its

0:59:520:59:56

wake. It will brighten up behind it

from the North with a fair bit of

0:59:561:00:01

sunshine. Showers across northern

Scotland and highs above average for

1:00:011:00:04

the time of year.

1:00:041:00:15

Hello, it's Wednesday, it's 10am,

I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

1:00:181:00:20

Can the International Development

Sec hang onto her job?

1:00:201:00:22

She's currently flying back

from a trip to Africa to face

1:00:221:00:25

the music after the BBC revealed

Priti Patel didn't tell

1:00:251:00:27

the Prime Minister Theresa May

about all the secret meetings she'd

1:00:271:00:30

had with Israeli politicians.

1:00:301:00:31

Some are calling

for her to step down.

1:00:311:00:37

It is extraordinary and the Prime

Minister found out about it by

1:00:371:00:40

listening to the radio. It is

disturbing to the Middle East Peace

1:00:401:00:44

Process to think that the British

Government might do that. She has to

1:00:441:00:47

go.

1:00:471:00:51

There are now more than 260,000

people who are officially

1:00:511:00:55

homeless in England -

that includes anyone on the streets

1:00:551:00:58

or in temporary accommodation.

1:00:581:01:04

If that's you, get in touch.

And let me know what led to your

1:01:041:01:12

homelessness and what help you are

getting to get somewhere permanent.

1:01:121:01:18

The secret ceremonies and rituals

of female Freemasons.

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In a UK first, we get access

to their secret societies.

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Do you use secret handshakes?

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Yes, absolutely.

Of course we do!

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Can you do it with me now?

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No, it's a secret.

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LAUGHS.

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What happens, and

when would you do it?

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It's a secret!

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You'll have to join to find out!

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We'll speak to three female

Freemasons live.

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Good morning.

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Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news.

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The International Development

Secretary, Priti Patel,

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is flying back to Britain

from Africa at the request

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of Theresa May amid growing

speculation about her future

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in the government.

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The International Development

Secretary, Priti Patel,

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She had already been forced

to apologise for a series

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of unauthorised meetings

while on a family holiday in Israel.

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It's now emerged she had further

talks which she failed to disclose

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to the Prime Minister.

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Crispin Blunt said she should have

been more cautious when dealing with

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Middle East policy.

She has not

demonstrated that she has got a grip

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on the conflict. When you get into

things like this where things are

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delicate between the competing

parties you have to be careful.

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Donald Trump has arrived in Beijing,

as he continues his tour of Asia.

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The American President took a tour

of the Forbidden City

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in the capital, alongside his

Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping.

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Mr Trump is expected to ask China

to cut its financial

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links with North Korea.

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Speaking in South Korea earlier,

Mr Trump urged all countries to join

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forces to isolate Pyongyang,

saying the world could not tolerate

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a rogue nation that threatened

nuclear devastation.

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The head of NHS England will warn

today that the public wants to see

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promises on NHS funding,

made during the EU

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referendum campaign,

honoured by the Government.

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Simon Stevens will tell a health

conference that trust

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in the democratic process will be

weakened, if higher

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funding is not delivered.

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The Prince of Wales has been

criticised for failing to disclose

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an investment by his private estate

in an offshore company.

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The revelations come from a number

of leaked documents about tax havens

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known as the Paradise Papers.

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It's the second time

this week that a member

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of the Royal Family has been named.

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At least nine school children have

been killed and more than twenty

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others injured in an explosion

at a primary school

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in north-west Tanzania.

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Initial reports say the primary

school pupils died when an object

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they were playing with exploded.

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Thousands of people with the most

advanced cancers in England are now

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surviving for several years

after diagnosis,

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according to research.

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MacMillan Cancer Support said this

was due to the success

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of new treatments but it warned

living longer with advanced cancer

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brings its own difficulties.

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That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10.30am.

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Thank you very much. A couple of

comments on Freemasons and some on

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Priti Patel, the International

Development Secretary. Rob says,

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"When I first started, when I

started my first job my boss told me

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to join the Freemasons, but I never

did. Since then I have witnessed

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many promotion and it is because of

membership of the Freemasons and

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that is fact." Another viewer says,

"I know a guy caught drink-driving

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three times, it is a Freemason. As

is the judge." The International

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Development Secretary cannot be

trusted. It is disgusting she met

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with the Israeli Prime Minister and

did not tell Theresa May. How do we

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know what else she has done? Sack

her." Another viewer says, "Priti

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Patel can't be a team player so she

should be booted out of office. I

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wouldn't want her watching my back."

Thank you for those.

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We will be talking to the vice

president of actors union Equity. It

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is the first time they have done an

interview about the sex scandals.

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Here's some sport now

with Katherine Downes.

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It has been a big week

or so for Andy Murray,

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welcoming a second daughter

with his wife Kim,

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but it unclear when she was born.

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And before that, making his return

to the court for the first

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time since Wimbledon.

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It wasn't exactly a serious

competition though.

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He was playing an exhibition match

against Roger Federer

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in Glasgow last night.

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Federer even wore

a kilt for part of it.

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He won

the deciding tie break 10-6.

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Murray is hoping to back to full

fitness for the Australian Open

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at the start of next year.

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I am in a significantly better place

than I was in the build up to the US

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Open. At the end of Wimbledon I was

really struggling. Walking was a big

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problem for me. So, I am trying to

get myself back to 100%.

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The UK Anti-Doping Agency say

they're worried about an ongoing

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case against former heavyweight

champion Tyson Fury.

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He tested positive for

a banned steroid last June

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and UKAD say if wins his case,

and sues them for loss of earnings,

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they will be bankrupt.

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They're believed to have

asked the Government

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to underwrite the case.

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Fury is hoping to be back

in the ring next year

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where he'll be set to rejoin

an exciting heavyweight division.

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Anthony Joshua is the man

they all want to fight,

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including American Wilder.

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He holds the WBC heavyweight world

title, and told BBC 5 Live earlier,

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he is desperate to face Joshua.

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I want Anthony Joshua. I want him

ASAP. Not only will it be the

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biggest fight in boxing history. I

will travel anywhere in the world to

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fight. The UK is only the size of

Texas in my country. My country is a

1:07:151:07:20

huge country. The megaof boxing and

the money will always and forever be

1:07:201:07:24

in America.

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England winger Jermaine McGillvary

has been cleared of biting Lebanon

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captain Robbie Farah

during Saturday's World Cup

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group game in Sydney.

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The Huddersfield player was facing

a ban of up to 12 weeks had

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he been found guilty,

but his exoneration means he will be

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free to play in England's final

group match against France

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in Perth on Sunday.

1:07:421:07:44

England's women are completing

their final day of preparation

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before their must-win

Ashes Test in Sydney.

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They're currently 4-2

down against Australia.

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If they lose the test,

which starts tomorrow,

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England cannot win the series.

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They have got the Ashes. We want the

Ashes. It is a very different group

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now. The squad that's out here, the

side that will play will be very

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different to the side that played

then. So yeah, although there is

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some scars, there is a lot of fresh

faces which balances it out in the

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group.

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Meanwhile

England's men have been

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playing one of their two warm-up

games before their

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Ashes Series starts.

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Mark Stoneman and Joe Root have both

scored half centuries

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against a Cricket Australia Eleven.

1:08:311:08:34

England are currently 253-5.

1:08:341:08:37

Thank you very much.

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"Do not underestimate

us and do not try us",

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the words of Donald Trump,

as he used some of his toughest

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language yet against North Korea

in a wide-ranging speech in Seoul.

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The US President is now visiting

the Forbidden City in Beijing

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where he is expected to put pressure

on the regime to cut their financial

1:08:511:08:54

ties to North Korea.

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Today marks one year since his shock

election in the United States.

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It was a shock to some, not others.

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Almost nobody predicted that he'd

see his way to the Oval Office

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by firstly defeating a cluster

of republican rivals

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and then Hillary Clinton.

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I have just received a call from

secretary Clinton.

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APPLAUSE

She congratulated us, it is about

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us, on our victory and I

congratulated her and her family on

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a very, very hard fought campaign.

We will embark upon a project of

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national growth and we knewal. I

will harness the creative talents of

1:09:401:09:44

our people and we will call upon the

best and brightest to leverage their

1:09:441:09:49

tremendous talent for the benefit of

all. It's going to happen. We have a

1:09:491:09:57

great economic plan. We will double

our growth and have the strongest

1:09:571:10:02

economy anywhere in the world. At

the same time, get along with all

1:10:021:10:08

other nations, willing to get along

with us. We will be. We'll have

1:10:081:10:13

great relationships. We expect to

have great, great relationships.

1:10:131:10:17

Since then it's been a rocky

ride for the president,

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but despite several controversies,

mostly resulting from commentary

1:10:201:10:22

issued under the twitter

handle @realdonaldtrump,

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and historically low approval

ratings, the Republican base remains

1:10:261:10:29

fairly steadfast in support for him.

1:10:291:10:34

We can speak to the veteran

New York Times journalist

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Steven Erlanger and Republican

commentator Anneke Green.

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How do you assess his first year?

One of my family members make the

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joke that he is his favourite

Republican Democrat. There is a lot

1:11:041:11:10

to assess. He has certainly

encouraged rather than tried to

1:11:101:11:16

overcome infighting in Congress and

many of his key campaign promise

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like repealing Obamacare, famously

having come to pass despite three

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runs at it, but so I think in some

senses he is really having to

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stretch in terms of looking for

accomplishments, but the year isn't

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over yet in terms of him being in

office. It has only been ten months.

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Has he had any major legislative

accomplishments?

Well, the

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accomplishment that had to go

through Congress is a major

1:11:461:11:51

accomplishment in terms of really

how it came to pass.

Just explain to

1:11:511:11:56

our British audience the

significance of that?

The Supreme

1:11:561:11:59

Court is our third branch of

government. There are nine justices.

1:11:591:12:03

One of them passed away while Obama

was in office and he nominated a

1:12:031:12:13

replacement but the Republican

controlled Congress put off having

1:12:131:12:16

hearings. So close to a new

presidential election which at this

1:12:161:12:19

point in time the majority of people

thought Hillary Clinton would be the

1:12:191:12:22

nominee. They held off and that

meant that Donald Trump was able to

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nominate the replacement justice

because of the Congress.

Let me

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fwling Stephen. Has the New York

Times been as unfair to Donald Trump

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as he claims?

Donald Trump has a

very intimate, perhaps near rottic

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relationship with us. We are the

paper he grew up with. He grew up in

1:12:421:12:48

Queen's, he represents the Manhattan

he always aspired to. He wants our

1:12:481:12:51

love. Have we been unfair to him? I

don't think, but we make mistakes.

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We probably had too much confidence

in the polls that indicated that

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Trump was going to lose to Hillary

Clinton. I think there was

1:13:031:13:07

confirmation bias there. But of

course, Trump thought he was going

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to lose. Vladimir Putin thought he

was going to lose and Hillary

1:13:101:13:14

Clinton thought that she was going

win. So this is part of the first

1:13:141:13:18

year. He is learning. It is not a

job, he really, expected to have.

In

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terms of what he says and then what

he does, is there a gap there?

Well,

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there is. I mean some people would

like to say there is, you know,

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there is more bark than bite. When

you look at what he has actually

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done, it hasn't been so terrible.

You could even argue that he has put

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insufficient pressure on the Chinese

to actually squeeze North Korea

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which is not a bad thing. We will

see happens. He gave a good speech

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this morning in South Korea. He has

failed as your guest said on health

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care. He has been at war with his

own party in Congress which doesn't

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help. He lives on partisanship, not

on compromise. I mean he was elected

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by fuelling anger of people and he

keeps trying to do that, but some of

1:14:111:14:15

that, to me is fake. He kind of uses

us, the mainstream media, other

1:14:151:14:20

people, as props in his play. And

the play is designed for his base.

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At heart, it's hard to know him. I

knew him 30 years ago, but you

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know...

Knew him, knew him?

Knew

him. I met him in New York and he

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was more of a Democrat. I mean he

was not anti-abortion then and he

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was just interested in being

well-known and loved in Manhattan.

1:14:431:14:47

So, there is some part of him that's

very hard to read, but has he, you

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know, blown up Nato? No. He doesn't

like the European Union. He thinks

1:14:531:14:57

the Europeans are mad, but

generally, has decided if they like

1:14:571:15:00

it, that's fine with them. He

encourages Brexit. He saw that as

1:15:001:15:05

the harbinger of his own victory,

but will Britain get a great trade

1:15:051:15:10

deal out of Donald Trump? He is a

hard bargainer?

Well, the mood music

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is good.

The mood music is great.

Let's see when we get to the

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negotiation.

What do you want to see

more from as a Republican, from

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Donald Trump and what do you want to

see less of?

I want to see less,

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what I would call stupid fights. I

think the reason he became

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president, the reason he became the

party nominee is I think Americans

1:15:321:15:36

on really both sides of the

political aisle are tired of

1:15:361:15:39

politician, they are tired of the

same old thing. We saw the rise of

1:15:391:15:45

Bernie Sanders related to that. They

wanted a fighter and Donald Trump

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was that fighter to the point of

insulting people on stage which was

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different, but he became president.

What I want to see more of is him

1:15:541:15:59

knowing when to walk away from a

fight. Pushing back against, if a

1:15:591:16:04

mother of a soldier, who has passed

away, says I didn't like that phone

1:16:041:16:08

call, he just needs to leave it

alone. But that has been his brand.

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It has worked for him so far and I

don't anticipate he will change

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that.

What do you want to see more

of?

Some of the great

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accomplishments that are happening

on the executive side, that the

1:16:211:16:25

Conservatives have been looking for.

Out of the Environmental Protection

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Agency, a practise known here as sue

and settle where it was

1:16:281:16:33

incentivising activists to sue and

then have their legal costs paid for

1:16:331:16:38

over nonsense lawsuits and be

reimbursed. It was taxpayer dollars

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being wasted and that's been stopped

and I want more things like that.

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And yourself, Stephen, what do you

quantity to see more of, what do you

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want to see less of?

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We could use a simplified tax

system. People like me who are

1:16:581:17:02

American but live and work abroad,

it would be nice if we didn't have

1:17:021:17:07

to pay quite so many taxes to a

country we don't live in.

1:17:071:17:10

to pay quite so many taxes to a

country we don't live in. He's the

1:17:101:17:12

most pro-business president since

Eisenhower. Look at the stock

1:17:121:17:16

market, things are going well. I

would like him to calm down and

1:17:161:17:19

trade. He's been obsessed with trade

for 30-40 years. He thinks everyone

1:17:191:17:25

is screwing the United States and

every trade deal is unfair. He's

1:17:251:17:30

already destroyed TTP with Asia

which I think is a big mistake and

1:17:301:17:34

helps China. He's fiddling with

Nafta. Maybe he can get a better

1:17:341:17:39

deal but the Canadians and Mexicans

aren't happy. And jobs are at stake

1:17:391:17:43

there. He's done a lot and

regulation which doesn't need

1:17:431:17:48

Congressional permission like the

EPA. Some of that will please

1:17:481:17:52

Republicans, some of it will make

Democrats unhappy, but this is

1:17:521:17:56

within his realm. I would like him

to learn better about how to be

1:17:561:18:00

president, and as your guest said,

stop having stupid fights.

Thank you

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very much.

1:18:061:18:07

Still to come:

1:18:071:18:08

The number of homeless people

in England has gone up in the last

1:18:081:18:12

year to more than 260,000

with 13,000 more people entering

1:18:121:18:14

this uncertain world

in the last year alone.

1:18:141:18:16

We'll be talking to

people going through it.

1:18:161:18:24

When you think of Freemasons

you might think of secret handshakes

1:18:241:18:27

or rolled-up trouser legs,

or you may be familiar

1:18:271:18:29

with the accusations of corruption.

1:18:291:18:31

But with membership on the decline

Freemasons heading to universities

1:18:311:18:33

to seek out new members.

1:18:331:18:37

In a UK first, this programme been

given access to two female Masonic

1:18:371:18:40

lodges to witness initiations,

secret ceremonies and never

1:18:401:18:42

before filmed rituals.

1:18:421:18:48

We'll speak to some other

Freemasons in a moment

1:18:481:18:50

but first here's an extract

from Claire Jones exclusive report.

1:18:501:18:57

This looks like any other leafy

street in central London,

1:18:571:19:00

but this is the international

headquarters of one of the most

1:19:001:19:03

secretive and mysterious

organisations in the world.

1:19:031:19:09

For the first time,

they are exclusively

1:19:091:19:10

opening their doors to us.

1:19:101:19:12

ORGAN MUSIC.

1:19:121:19:19

The Freemasons are a secretive

society that practice

1:19:191:19:21

rituals in a temple

and promote brotherly love.

1:19:211:19:22

Although they've always been

associated with men,

1:19:221:19:24

we've gained access to the two

female Freemason groups in the UK,

1:19:241:19:28

the Order of Women Freemasons

and the Honourable Fraternity

1:19:281:19:31

of Ancient Freemasons.

1:19:311:19:38

Dialazaza Nkela is about to pass

on to another rank in the society

1:19:381:19:41

called the Second Degree.

1:19:411:19:43

I'm feeling very happy.

1:19:431:19:44

I feel confident.

1:19:441:19:45

I am excited.

1:19:451:19:47

I'm not nervous, I'm happy.

1:19:471:19:51

Where were you first

prepared to be a Freemason?

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In my heart.

1:19:531:19:55

And where next?

1:19:551:19:56

In a convenient room

adjourning the Lodge.

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Describe the mode

of your preparation.

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I have divested of all

monies and all valuables.

1:20:011:20:05

My right arm, left breast

and knee made bare.

1:20:051:20:12

My right heel slipshod, and a cable

tow running noose upon my neck.

1:20:121:20:18

In the past Freemasons have been

accused of favouritism,

1:20:181:20:20

helping members rise up the career

ladder and covering up mistakes.

1:20:201:20:26

Have you heard of Freemasons doing

favours for each other?

1:20:261:20:28

Yes, I have, in the old days.

1:20:281:20:30

Many, many, many years ago.

1:20:301:20:32

But that was mainly in the men

and they were rooted out as corrupt.

1:20:321:20:37

What sort of favours would they be?

1:20:371:20:39

Oh, you would get policemen

who were Freemasons doing

1:20:391:20:41

favours for other members.

1:20:411:20:48

Because there is obviously this view

that if you scratch my back,

1:20:481:20:51

I'll scratch yours.

1:20:511:20:52

No, it's not allowed.

1:20:521:20:53

It really isn't.

1:20:531:20:54

It's really, really forbidden.

1:20:541:21:01

With an ageing membership,

the societies are keen to bring

1:21:011:21:04

in younger women to secure

the future of Freemasonry.

1:21:041:21:06

I can't believe I'm doing

this, I can't believe

1:21:061:21:08

the day has finally come.

1:21:081:21:09

It's surreal.

1:21:091:21:11

After joining the Freemasons seven

years ago, today optician

1:21:111:21:15

Roshni Patel will have a ceremony

to mark her reaching

1:21:151:21:17

the rank of a master mason.

1:21:171:21:20

This is our grand temple.

1:21:201:21:24

Tonight, where there's

obviously a ceremony that's

1:21:241:21:26

going on but we can't get access to,

tell us why you wouldn't

1:21:261:21:29

want us to see it.

1:21:291:21:30

Because you haven't earned it.

1:21:301:21:32

Roshni has gone through all these

offices, all the way

1:21:321:21:34

through the chair.

1:21:341:21:35

She's learned pieces of ritual,

she has worked hard.

1:21:351:21:38

She must have been working for five

or six years to achieve

1:21:381:21:41

the installation into this chair.

1:21:411:21:46

We've heard the ceremony is almost

over, and Roshni is about to appear

1:21:461:21:50

as a master of the lodge.

1:21:501:21:51

Congratulations.

1:21:511:21:52

Thank you, thank you.

1:21:521:21:54

I don't know how I feel.

1:21:541:21:56

I think I'm in shock.

1:21:561:21:57

The whole process of me being put

into the chair, that was,

1:21:571:22:00

that was very emotional.

1:22:001:22:05

Especially by all my lodge members

who I really care about, so, yeah.

1:22:051:22:10

Although we were given exclusive

access, we still only gained

1:22:101:22:12

a glimpse of the workings

of this secret society.

1:22:121:22:15

There was a lot that

was off-limits to us.

1:22:151:22:18

Both groups of female Freemasons

dismissed all allegations

1:22:181:22:21

of corruption but to shake this

negative reputation and gain more

1:22:211:22:24

members, they may need to be more

transparent in future.

1:22:241:22:34

Let's talk now to three other

Freemasons from across Europe.

1:22:341:22:40

Christine Chapman is

a Grand Master, who you may have

1:22:401:22:42

seen in Claire's film.

1:22:421:22:43

Cecile Revauger is a professor

at the University of Bordeaux,

1:22:431:22:45

and has written extensively

on female masonry.

1:22:451:22:50

Dr Andreas Onnefors is an expert

in global Freemasonry

1:22:501:22:52

and is currently writing

a book about it.

1:22:521:23:01

He joined the Freemasons aged 25.

Thank you for coming on the

1:23:011:23:05

programme. Christine, so interesting

to see the film about you. However

1:23:051:23:13

fascinated I am, I am left wanting

to ask you what is the point?

Well,

1:23:131:23:20

it is a point which if you join it

you would understand it. But a lot

1:23:201:23:26

of people do their research on the

internet and they actually want to

1:23:261:23:30

join us. We aim to make women better

people, with teaching of morals and

1:23:301:23:36

precepts. It is also a mutual self

development programme. It encourages

1:23:361:23:43

women to grow.

You aim to make women

better people. Tell me some of the

1:23:431:23:51

things you might say to new members.

If I was to join what would you say

1:23:511:23:56

to meet in Courage me to become a

better person?

I would say to you to

1:23:561:24:00

study the ritual and absorb the

teachings it is trying to put across

1:24:001:24:05

to you, and to put them into

practice in your everyday life.

Can

1:24:051:24:09

you give me an example of a

teaching?

You should always be

1:24:091:24:17

looking out each other, and you help

people to become better people by

1:24:171:24:23

growing in confidence and self

belief, and to always believe that

1:24:231:24:28

although we wear different

distinctions of regalia, we are all

1:24:281:24:31

equal, and that he who is on the

lovers spoke fortunes wheel is

1:24:311:24:37

equally entitled to our regard. --

the lowest spoke of Fortune's

1:24:371:24:43

wheeled.

Thank you for talking to

us. Why are you a Freemason?

I've

1:24:431:24:50

been a Freemason for about 30 years.

As you've just said I'm also an

1:24:501:24:55

academic. I'm studying freemasonry.

In fact I joined for social,

1:24:551:25:03

philosophical reasons, because

freemasonry in France is quite

1:25:031:25:09

different from freemasonry in

Britain and the states. As you know,

1:25:091:25:17

or maybe as people don't know, in

1877 in France they decided to

1:25:171:25:29

impose full liberty of conscience.

And no longer to demand that their

1:25:291:25:35

members should believe in God. Ever

since there's been a rift between

1:25:351:25:42

French freemasonry and British and

American Freemasons.

For our

1:25:421:25:50

audience, my understanding is that

in France the lodges are often

1:25:501:25:54

political, whereas in the UK they

aren't supposed to take religious or

1:25:541:25:58

political stances.

I would qualify

that statement a bit. In French

1:25:581:26:05

lodges, you certainly do not discuss

politics and religion as such. But

1:26:051:26:11

what is important is to accept

religious differences and also

1:26:111:26:21

secularism. Separation between

church and state. We do have

1:26:211:26:26

discussions on philosophical and

social issues, for instance you will

1:26:261:26:29

discuss the emancipation of women,

issues such as unemployment, such as

1:26:291:26:37

euthanasia for instance. Poverty.

There is this commitment to improve

1:26:371:26:47

society, if not change society.

Andreas, you were the youngest

1:26:471:26:53

Freemason in Sweden for a number of

years. He joined a 25. Has it helped

1:26:531:26:57

your career?

No, not at all.

Why did

you join?

I'm both an academic and a

1:26:571:27:06

Freemason and it has helped me to

make a short distinction between

1:27:061:27:10

what is academic and what is my

personal development. But in my

1:27:101:27:16

career outside freemasonry, my

membership has not improved my

1:27:161:27:20

chances to get anywhere in society.

There's so much suspicion around the

1:27:201:27:24

society as well when it comes to

freemasonry. I hardly ever mention

1:27:241:27:29

it. Now I feel confident to do it,

20 years after I joined. In the

1:27:291:27:34

beginning I was very cautious to

talk about it. I did lots of

1:27:341:27:39

research and I feel more confident

talking about it in public.

Do you

1:27:391:27:43

want more people to become

Freemasons and if so do you accept

1:27:431:27:47

you perhaps will have to be more

transparent than traditionally

1:27:471:27:51

Freemasons have been?

Yes of course,

I would definitely tell people to

1:27:511:27:59

become Freemasons. It's one of the

best things that happened in my

1:27:591:28:02

life.

In what way? You haven't been

able to articulate that.

It connects

1:28:021:28:08

back in time to philosophical

traditions that otherwise and

1:28:081:28:14

expressed that clearly in society.

It's an oral transfer of knowledge,

1:28:141:28:19

very performative. During the film

you could see these rituals.

1:28:191:28:26

Freemasonry lives in performance.

It's not something you can read a

1:28:261:28:31

book and become a Freemason. You

must become initiated. There are

1:28:311:28:37

very few instances in modern society

where we initiate people. That is

1:28:371:28:44

the only secret, so to speak. The

personal experience of the

1:28:441:28:48

initiation which is the big asset.

The second thing is the

1:28:481:28:53

transparency. Freemasons have been

very transparent and people have

1:28:531:28:57

been bad at reading about

freemasonry. The question is what do

1:28:571:29:02

we mean when we want to have

transparency. We are publishing

1:29:021:29:05

quite a lot about freemasonry and

still we see that if you Google,

1:29:051:29:11

many misconceptions and prejudices

prevail.

Traditionally Freemasons

1:29:111:29:14

have been mysterious. We could only

film certain parts of the ceremonies

1:29:141:29:20

and rituals and that's absolutely up

to Christine, she can make those

1:29:201:29:23

decisions. If we don't want to go

along with it we can leave, but we

1:29:231:29:27

wanted to film as much as we could.

Do you accept, Christine, it leaves

1:29:271:29:33

people with a suspicion? What is it

that you are hiding?

I suppose it

1:29:331:29:38

does but really and truly when we

ask people to swear that they will

1:29:381:29:42

never reveal the secrets we ask them

as a symbolic act of their honour

1:29:421:29:48

and integrity. That's what it means.

Although they may not be very

1:29:481:29:53

important to other people, they are

important to us. So they demonstrate

1:29:531:29:57

a person's commitment to their

membership to the order, by keeping

1:29:571:30:01

those secrets.

I wonder maybe if

asking people to do that, maybe that

1:30:011:30:08

sustains you? It maintains this

intrigue when actually from what

1:30:081:30:11

we've seen to date it would appear

to be reasonably benign, possibly

1:30:111:30:20

worthy and potentially boring.

It is

a very benign society because we do

1:30:201:30:24

a lot of good. One of the practices

we carry out his charity. We raise a

1:30:241:30:30

lot of money for charity. It is part

of our duty as a Freemason, to

1:30:301:30:37

support others and help them. So

yes, that's what we do. It's not

1:30:371:30:41

just what we do.

1:30:411:30:45

Tell us about what you are wearing

around your neck. Tell us about the

1:30:451:30:50

significance of that?

It is a Grand

Master's collar of office. It is a

1:30:501:30:59

Grand Master's collar. You can't see

it, but that is the collar jewel

1:30:591:31:04

which is a blazing sun, the glory in

the centre with the all seeing eye.

1:31:041:31:10

Lift it higher. Yes, we have got it.

And that's real gold, I assume?

No.

1:31:101:31:19

Is it not?

No.

Oh my gosh. You can't

get that down Clare's Accessories,

1:31:191:31:28

can you?

No.

Thank you, Christine.

It is a pleasure.

Thank you to our

1:31:281:31:41

guests.

Can you allow me to add a

little?

Briefly.

I wanted to point

1:31:411:31:48

out there has been an evolution

concerning women Freemasons, but the

1:31:481:31:56

wages situation is very different in

France and England. They are not

1:31:561:32:04

recognised by the United Grand

Lodge. Whereas in France women

1:32:041:32:09

Freemasons are recognised by their

male counterparts except for one

1:32:091:32:13

grand lodge which has the official

links with the United Grand Lodge of

1:32:131:32:19

England, but apart from that, we are

fully recognised and that's the

1:32:191:32:23

difference and there is still a long

way to go.

Thank you. Thank you very

1:32:231:32:28

much.

1:32:281:32:32

Still to come:

1:32:341:32:35

The actors' union Equity are looking

for solutions to combat sexual

1:32:351:32:38

harassment across the industry,

following allegations

1:32:381:32:40

against Harvey Weinstein and more

lately, Kevin Spacey.

1:32:401:32:45

We will talk to them in their first

interview after the allegations

1:32:451:32:53

surfaced.

1:32:531:32:56

As many as one in 25 people

are homeless in England's worst hit

1:32:561:32:59

areas according to a new survey.

1:32:591:33:01

We'll talk to two women who've been

left homeless and are now living

1:33:011:33:04

in temporary accommodation

about their lives and

1:33:041:33:06

hopes for the future.

1:33:061:33:07

Time for the latest

news - here's Annita.

1:33:071:33:08

The International Development

Secretary, Priti Patel,

1:33:081:33:12

is flying back to Britain

from Africa at the request

1:33:121:33:14

of Theresa May amid growing

speculation about her future

1:33:141:33:16

in the government.

1:33:161:33:17

She had already been forced

to apologise for a series

1:33:171:33:21

of unauthorised meetings

while on a family holiday in Israel,

1:33:211:33:23

it's now emerged she had further

talks which she failed to disclose

1:33:231:33:26

to the Prime Minister.

1:33:261:33:35

The Defence Secretary Gavin

Williamson was questioned about

1:33:351:33:39

Priti Patel on his way into the Nato

defence ministers meeting in

1:33:391:33:42

Brussels, but he didn't answer

directly.

1:33:421:33:44

REPORTER: Is it right that

Priti Patel should be

1:33:441:33:46

sacked do you think?

1:33:461:33:48

I'm very much focussing on actually

the issues that are here at the Nato

1:33:481:33:51

conference for ministers and making

sure that they understand our

1:33:511:33:54

commitment to Europe's defence

is absolutely resolute.

1:33:541:33:57

One minister on the

verge of departure.

1:33:571:34:01

The Foreign Secretary floundering

a little, with respect sir,

1:34:011:34:04

a Defence Secretary very

new to the job, it doesn't

1:34:041:34:07

give a huge amount of

confidence for Britain's

1:34:071:34:09

ministerial overseas footprint?

1:34:091:34:13

We are very much focussed on talking

about military matters

1:34:131:34:16

here and that is what I'm

going to be doing all day but thank

1:34:161:34:19

you very much for your time.

1:34:191:34:26

REPORTER: Can you put to bed rumours

that you perhaps advised

1:34:261:34:29

Prime Minister to get rid of Michael

Fallon?

1:34:291:34:31

Oh the Prime Minister

makes her own decisions

1:34:311:34:33

on who is serving in her Cabinet

and they are only the Prime

1:34:331:34:36

Minister's decisions.

1:34:361:34:37

But she didn't actually -

she makes her own decisions

1:34:371:34:39

and she always does make

her own decisions.

1:34:391:34:41

But thank you ever so much

for your time, thank you.

1:34:411:34:45

The head of NHS England will warn

today that the public wants to see

1:34:451:34:49

promises on NHS funding,

made during the EU

1:34:491:34:52

referendum campaign,

honoured by the government.

1:34:521:34:54

Simon Stevens will tell a health

conference that trust

1:34:541:34:56

in the democratic process will be

weakened, if higher

1:34:561:34:58

funding is not delivered.

1:34:581:35:04

Donald Trump has arrived in Beijing

as he continues his tour of Asia.

1:35:041:35:07

The American President took a tour

of the Forbidden City

1:35:071:35:09

in the capital, alongside his

Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping.

1:35:091:35:11

Mr Trump is expected to ask China

to cut its financial

1:35:111:35:14

links with North Korea.

1:35:141:35:16

Speaking in South Korea earlier,

Mr Trump urged all countries to join

1:35:161:35:18

forces to isolate Pyongyang,

saying the world could not tolerate

1:35:181:35:21

a rogue nation that threatened

nuclear devastation.

1:35:211:35:29

The Prince of Wales has been

criticised for failing to disclose

1:35:291:35:33

an investment by his private estate

in an offshore company.

1:35:331:35:37

The revelations come from a number

of leaked documents about tax havens

1:35:371:35:39

known as the Paradise Papers.

1:35:391:35:41

It's the second time

this week that a member

1:35:411:35:43

of the Royal Family has been named.

1:35:431:35:45

The broadcaster Sky has said it

will consider closing Sky News if it

1:35:451:35:48

becomes a stumbling block

in its proposed merger

1:35:481:35:50

with 21st Century Fox.

1:35:501:35:53

Rupert Murdoch's bid

for full control of Sky

1:35:531:35:55

is being investigated

by the Competition

1:35:551:35:56

and Markets Authority,

on grounds of media plurality.

1:35:561:36:03

Thousands of people with the most

advanced cancers in England are now

1:36:041:36:07

surviving for several years

after diagnosis,

1:36:071:36:08

according to research.

1:36:081:36:09

MacMillan Cancer Support said this

was due to the success

1:36:091:36:12

of new treatments, but it warned

living longer with advanced cancer

1:36:121:36:14

brings its own difficulties.

1:36:141:36:24

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

1:36:251:36:31

Jennifer says, "I used to work at

the Freemasons arms in coffin

1:36:311:36:35

garden. We would cater for events.

One evening I got locked in the

1:36:351:36:42

kitchen and all they did was eat,

drink and sing hymns. Hardly MI5! "

1:36:421:36:49

Here's some sport now

with Katherine Downes.

1:36:491:36:56

Here are the top sports

stories of the day for you.

1:36:561:36:59

It's been a busy 24

hours for Andy Murray,

1:36:591:37:02

welcoming his second daughter

with his wife Kim, and making

1:37:021:37:04

a return to court to play

an exhibition match

1:37:041:37:06

against Roger Federer - it's

the first time he's played in public

1:37:061:37:09

since Wimbledon in July.

1:37:091:37:10

The UK Anti-Doping Agency say

they're worried about an ongoing

1:37:101:37:12

case against Tyson Fury.

1:37:121:37:14

He tested positive for a banned

steroid last June -

1:37:141:37:16

and UKAD say if he sues them

for loss of earnings,

1:37:161:37:18

they will be bankrupt.

1:37:181:37:19

They're believed to have

asked the Government

1:37:191:37:21

to underwrite the case.

1:37:211:37:22

England and Germany will both wear

poppies on black armbands

1:37:221:37:24

for their friendly on Friday

after Fifa changed their rules

1:37:241:37:27

to allow players to wear poppies

as an act of remembrance.

1:37:271:37:37

A swimmer competed in the games a

year after making a journey from

1:37:431:37:47

Syria in search of a new life. She

and her sister even helped tow a

1:37:471:37:53

boat full of migrants across the

shore to Greece. Alex Capstick went

1:37:531:38:00

to meet her in Berlin.

You know that

you may lose your life on the way.

1:38:001:38:05

It's not your decision that you want

to leave your country and you want

1:38:051:38:08

to go to another country. So, you

kind of think about what's better

1:38:081:38:14

for your life and for your family.

This woman, Olympian and refugee who

1:38:141:38:20

saved lives including her own, a

story so powerful it attracted

1:38:201:38:25

interest from movie moguls across

the world. The teenager swimmer who

1:38:251:38:30

fled Syria to pursue her sporting

dreams.

Imagine there is a war in

1:38:301:38:34

your country, you can't go back. You

can't see your children. You can't

1:38:341:38:38

take anything. This is the suit you

have on you. That's it.

It was a 25

1:38:381:38:44

day nightmare which featured a

sinking boat full of migrants

1:38:441:38:47

heading for Greece. She jumped into

the sea with her sister to helped

1:38:471:38:54

keep it afloat.

I was afraid. It was

dark and I was just seeing the

1:38:541:38:59

island, but never reaching it.

You

could see the island in the

1:38:591:39:02

distance?

Yes.

So you knew which way

to go?

It's not that I was, the

1:39:021:39:10

heros, pulling a rope, you know.

It's OK, I helped the boat, but it

1:39:101:39:15

was not only me or my sister. If we

didn't work together until we reach

1:39:151:39:21

the shore, it will never, me and my

sister will never make it happen.

1:39:211:39:25

You can imagine they told you, it is

a 45 minute trip and you stayed

1:39:251:39:29

three-and-a-half hours.

What did you

have with you?

Nothing. My jeans and

1:39:291:39:33

my T-shirt. My shoes was also gone.

She arrived in Berlin where she

1:39:331:39:41

joined this swimming club in the

city's park. Her technique and

1:39:411:39:48

tenacity impressed local coaches.

She made speedy progress and

1:39:481:39:52

incredibly just 11 months after her

ordeal, she was on the biggest

1:39:521:39:56

sporting stage of all, marching into

the Olympic Stadium alongside nine

1:39:561:40:03

other athletes selected to compete

under the refugee banner.

Even

1:40:031:40:08

before one day, they were telling me

I was leaving to do the Olympics, it

1:40:081:40:13

was a surprise after only one here I

am a refugee in Germany and I'm

1:40:131:40:17

going and there is a refugee Olympic

team, it was incredible.

She didn't

1:40:171:40:23

have to wait long to compete. She

hoped to meet one of her greatest

1:40:231:40:32

idols, Michael Phelps.

I saw him,

but I didn't meet him. I swam this

1:40:321:40:38

the same lane.

She is now a teenager

in demand. With an expanding entour

1:40:381:40:44

ranlg be fitting her growing stature

on the world's stage. It is hard to

1:40:441:40:48

believe that only two years ago she

was making that treacherous

1:40:481:40:53

desperate journey from Syria into an

unknown future and look at her now,

1:40:531:40:57

a global personality, quite clearly,

at ease in the spotlight.

1:40:571:41:02

There have been meetings with major

global figures. She addressed the UN

1:41:021:41:05

and given talks at other

high-profile events, highlighting

1:41:051:41:09

the plight of refugees.

Actually,

we're working on bringing more

1:41:091:41:14

awareness to the people of our

refugees and about what is happening

1:41:141:41:17

in the world. I'm just hoping to get

the idea to people that yes, they

1:41:171:41:23

are normal people and they had a

normal life and they were forced to

1:41:231:41:28

flee their country because of

violence.

1:41:281:41:29

And you are making a movie or a move

dwri is being made about you. How

1:41:291:41:33

exciting is that?

Yes, it is

amazing. I'm really excited. Yeah,

1:41:331:41:42

now nothing has happened. We told

the story already. And yeah, I'm

1:41:421:41:48

excited to be sometimes on set and

watch.

Who would you like to play

1:41:481:41:52

you?

To be honest, I have no idea. I

would like to play myself! I cannot

1:41:521:41:58

act. No, I can act, but I don't have

time. But yeah, I think I would just

1:41:581:42:07

wait and see who she will be.

But above all, she is focussed on

1:42:071:42:12

training hard. She wants a place at

the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo and

1:42:121:42:18

doesn't mind she who represents.

My

ambition is just to be an athlete.

1:42:181:42:22

If I'm going to start for Germany or

for my country, or for the refugee

1:42:221:42:28

Olympic team, I'm going to do the

best I can and it will be my

1:42:281:42:31

pleasure.

In a life full of twists

and turns, the way to Tokyo may not

1:42:311:42:35

be straightforward, but it's clear

this determined 19-year-old will

1:42:351:42:38

rise to whatever challenges lie in

wait. .

1:42:381:42:47

The number of people recorded

as homeless in England now

1:42:481:42:53

stands at over 268,000,

that's according to a new report

1:42:531:42:55

by the charity, Shelter.

1:42:551:42:59

The housing charity combined

official rough-sleeping,

1:42:591:43:00

numbers in temporary accommodation

and hostels, and social

1:43:001:43:02

services figures.

1:43:021:43:05

Shelter says this shows the number

of homeless people in Britain has

1:43:051:43:08

increased by 13,000 in a year,

but only uses estimates

1:43:081:43:10

in Scotland and Wales.

1:43:101:43:12

Government records are not

definitive, the charity claims,

1:43:121:43:14

so the true figure of homelessness

the figure is likely to be higher.

1:43:141:43:23

We can speak to Natalie Robertson,

who is living in temporary

1:43:231:43:25

accommodation with her son

in South London, Gillian Cooper,

1:43:251:43:29

who is with her family in temporary

accommodation in East London

1:43:291:43:32

and Polly Neate, who's chief

executive of the charity, Shelter.

1:43:321:43:35

Welcome all of you. Thank you for

coming on. It is probably worth

1:43:351:43:40

explaining why, when Natalie and

Gillian both have a roof over their

1:43:401:43:44

heads, they are define as homeless?

Well, people who are in temporary

1:43:441:43:49

accommodation, which commonly means

a room, sometimes even for a whole

1:43:491:43:53

family, in a bed and breakfast,

hotel or hostel are classed as

1:43:531:43:56

homeless because they don't have a

home to call their own. They don't

1:43:561:44:00

have anything like a long-term or

permanent tenancy. And you know, I

1:44:001:44:06

think it's really important not to

under estimate the devastating

1:44:061:44:10

impact that this has on people. We

see it day in and day out at

1:44:101:44:16

Shelter. It is that uncertainty and

it's important to stress as well

1:44:161:44:21

that this temporary accommodation

often is really inadequate and keeps

1:44:211:44:25

changing and in fact, in the study

we are talking about today, we found

1:44:251:44:29

that a third of those in temporary

accommodation will still be there in

1:44:291:44:33

a year's time so it is not that

temporary even.

How many times have

1:44:331:44:37

you been moved in the two years that

you have been officially homeless?

1:44:371:44:42

We have been moved four times and we

should have moved another move as of

1:44:421:44:47

two weeks ago.

Right.

It doesn't

stop. It is always a consideration,

1:44:471:44:53

you can't collect thingsment you

can't do things with the temporary

1:44:531:44:56

home that you have got because you

have got to carry the bulk with you

1:44:561:44:59

somewhere else. It doesn't even look

like a home.

And your

1:44:591:45:04

eight-year-old, your 14-year-old and

16-year-old live in where you are

1:45:041:45:08

now, with you?

Yes.

What condition

is it in? What's it like?

1:45:081:45:17

The one we've got now is probably

the best of all of them. It can get

1:45:171:45:20

really bad. We've had cases where

there have been mice, cockroaches,

1:45:201:45:25

rats. It's dangerous for the

children to be in because they don't

1:45:251:45:30

take the children into consideration

when they are being housed in these

1:45:301:45:33

places.

Which means you can move

away from their school or local GP,

1:45:331:45:38

for example. Or away from their

friends. Does that have a big

1:45:381:45:43

impact?

We've tried to make sure

they've kept a home base near their

1:45:431:45:48

school. We've maintained the doctor

we go to. If we were to move we

1:45:481:45:53

wouldn't have all the ID that is

prepared to join a doctor 's surgery

1:45:531:45:56

so we've maintained our doctors.

Other than that, the schools are

1:45:561:46:01

very important for children.

What

would you say to people who might be

1:46:011:46:06

watching thinking, you're in an all

right place now. You've had some

1:46:061:46:09

awful accommodation but now it's OK.

The kids are still at the same

1:46:091:46:14

school and youth maintained the GP.

Why is it a problem that you're in

1:46:141:46:19

temporary accommodation?

We aren't

going to be staying there from. We

1:46:191:46:27

can't set routes down. My children

used to go to groups in our original

1:46:271:46:30

house. They used to do piano, drums

and what have you. But now they

1:46:301:46:35

can't do any of that so they don't

feel settled. When we first got to

1:46:351:46:39

that place, prior to this we were in

a one-bedroom place with just one

1:46:391:46:46

row with the whole family. We found

out later it should only housed to

1:46:461:46:51

people.

The reason there were seven

is because the two older ones were

1:46:511:46:55

with you but they've now left.

Yes.

How did you end up homeless,

1:46:551:47:03

Natalie?

I was living with my mum in

2016, with my step dad and my

1:47:031:47:08

brother. I had my son, I was

working. When I was made homeless he

1:47:081:47:12

was one-year-old, the day after his

first birthday. To salvage my mum's

1:47:121:47:20

relationship with myself I had to

make that drastic change because we

1:47:201:47:22

were clashing over time and it

wasn't fair on any of us. She made

1:47:221:47:27

the decision to salvage a

relationship, tried mediation and it

1:47:271:47:31

didn't work. The local council gave

me accommodation in Thornton Heath.

1:47:311:47:38

I was there for 12 weeks. There were

three other families in that

1:47:381:47:41

property. It was clean, we had to

share kitchen and bathroom. There

1:47:411:47:49

was a gentleman living there who had

HIV and left blood in the bathroom

1:47:491:47:52

and expose that to myself and my son

and other families. I approach the

1:47:521:47:58

council who didn't believe me. They

didn't believe us at first. It

1:47:581:48:04

wasn't until I got this man's full

name, did a bit of research on

1:48:041:48:09

media, and I found him on there. You

write something about having HIV

1:48:091:48:14

site to get straight to the council.

Did you get moved?

I got moved. I

1:48:141:48:22

didn't have an official apology or

further investigation.

Where are you

1:48:221:48:25

living now?

I'm at Connect House on

an industrial estate in Mitcham. We

1:48:251:48:32

went to the House of Commons

yesterday for a debate. A few

1:48:321:48:39

scenarios have happened there and I

don't think it's safe at all.

1:48:391:48:43

There's loads of lorries and fans,

the pollution, the dust.

It is

1:48:431:48:49

actually an industrial estate?

It is

actually on there, yes.

Sutton

1:48:491:48:55

Council say they are supporting an

ever increasing number of homeless

1:48:551:48:58

people. By April 2016 the figures

were 411 and as of this week its 577

1:48:581:49:06

households. They say they are trying

to strike a balance between placing

1:49:061:49:10

Holebas families far away or more

locally -- replacing homeless

1:49:101:49:14

families. Redbridge say they are

trying hard, it's a top priority as

1:49:141:49:18

the council. Polly, you will know

the government is spending more on

1:49:181:49:24

this. They remind us they are

investing £950 million by 2020,

1:49:241:49:32

they've given councils the power to

plays families in decent rented

1:49:321:49:39

homes. What else can they do?

A lot.

The issue is that there are two

1:49:391:49:48

really fundamental things that are

causing this problem. To be honest

1:49:481:49:51

they will undermine any of the other

attempts the government is making to

1:49:511:49:55

solve it. One is there is not enough

affordable housing. By affordable

1:49:551:50:00

that has to be for low income

families to rent, not affordable to

1:50:001:50:03

buy. That's the long-term solution.

In the short-term a lot of this is

1:50:031:50:11

caused by welfare cuts. Benefit cuts

and particularly the freeze on

1:50:111:50:16

housing benefits. If government were

to just unfreeze local housing

1:50:161:50:22

allowance for families in rented

accommodation, if they would

1:50:221:50:25

unfreeze that in the next budget,

the impact on homelessness would be

1:50:251:50:30

massive.

Because they would be able

to afford private rented

1:50:301:50:34

accommodation? I don't want to go

over old arguments but you know what

1:50:341:50:38

their argument would be. People who

are working can't afford it so why

1:50:381:50:41

would you give money to people who

aren't working in order to live in

1:50:411:50:45

private rented accommodation?

It's a

matter of what level of homelessness

1:50:451:50:50

crisis we as a society are prepared

to tolerate, and the level of

1:50:501:50:55

unintended victims of welfare cuts

we are prepared to tolerate. We are

1:50:551:51:00

talking about people in work and not

in work not able to afford rent

1:51:001:51:06

because the property market is, as

we know, through the roof. It is a

1:51:061:51:12

crisis, it is a human crisis and

something has got to be done.

This

1:51:121:51:17

is a message from Aaron on Facebook.

It perhaps illustrates what you've

1:51:171:51:21

just described. He said, I've been

homeless for 12 months, sofa surfing

1:51:211:51:26

across my family and friends homes.

I've been working hard since the age

1:51:261:51:30

of 15 until the age of 24, when I

was forced to quit my full-time job

1:51:301:51:34

and leave my abusive ex who has now

left me with a lot of debt, which

1:51:341:51:41

means I can't afford food. My debts

are catching up with me, I'm

1:51:411:51:45

depressed, I do know where to turn.

The government will only offer me

1:51:451:51:48

shared accommodation. I'm expected

to live with people I don't know in

1:51:481:51:54

a rundown area and I've paid taxes

ever since I've worked and donated

1:51:541:51:59

to local charities. What makes it

even worse is I'm a care worker and

1:51:591:52:02

a very good one. My heart and soul

goes into caring and looking after

1:52:021:52:07

other people and I can't support

myself. Where do I go, who do I talk

1:52:071:52:11

to? I feel like life isn't worth

living and I'm only 24. Which is

1:52:111:52:20

really, really, really upsetting.

What advice would you give to Aaron?

1:52:201:52:25

To get some specific advice I would

advise him to call the shelter

1:52:251:52:29

helpline. We will try and find him

the best possible option in his

1:52:291:52:34

situation. In terms of the general

point, I think that case makes the

1:52:341:52:39

point really well. If you're going

to have an economy with incredibly

1:52:391:52:44

high housing costs and very low

wages, something has to be done for

1:52:441:52:49

people who have absolutely no power

in the marketplace. The market isn't

1:52:491:52:54

delivering. What we at Shelter would

argue it has to be done is to at

1:52:541:53:02

least unfreeze housing benefit.

Without doing that, the government's

1:53:021:53:08

Homelessness Reduction Act won't

succeed. It can't succeed unless

1:53:081:53:11

there is actually somewhere to house

people, which there won't be with

1:53:111:53:14

the freeze on housing benefit.

Thank

you.

1:53:141:53:23

The actors' union Equity has begun

an investigation to find solutions

1:53:231:53:26

to combat sexual harassment

and the fear of disclosure

1:53:261:53:28

among its members in

the entertainment industry.

1:53:281:53:30

It comes after revelations affecting

workers across the industry,

1:53:301:53:38

firstly involving the film producer

Harvey Weinstein, and more lately

1:53:381:53:41

Kevin Spacey, who'd been working

at London's Old Vic theatre.

1:53:411:53:43

Both men deny allegations

of sexual harassment.

1:53:431:53:48

Let's talk to Maureen Beattie,

who's the Vice President of Equity.

1:53:481:53:55

Thank you for talking to us.

Hello.

Before the Harvey Weinstein scandal

1:53:551:54:02

broke, how endemic was this problem?

I think it was every single place

1:54:021:54:08

you could imagine in our industry,

from drama schools, dance schools,

1:54:081:54:14

all the entertainment schools, the

Conservative whiles, right through

1:54:141:54:20

to the people beginning their

careers and right through to the

1:54:201:54:23

people whose names are above the

title. I think it's been there all

1:54:231:54:26

the time and I think what's happened

with the Harvey Weinstein scandal

1:54:261:54:30

and the revelations coming through

about people like Mr Spacey, we've

1:54:301:54:36

been made to realise just how

terrible and endemic it is.

So it's

1:54:361:54:43

been there all along, in every

sector of the acting world, and

1:54:431:54:50

nothing has been done?

No, I

wouldn't say that was true at all. I

1:54:501:54:58

am vice president of Equity and

Equity have got very, very rigorous

1:54:581:55:06

rules in place to protect people in

drama schools and in their careers,

1:55:061:55:17

particularly if nudity or simulated

sex is required. There are very,

1:55:171:55:21

very strict rules and regulations

and protocols in place. The problem

1:55:211:55:26

has been that not the majority but

the minority of people who employ

1:55:261:55:31

our members and to cast productions

in all the media are not paying

1:55:311:55:41

attention in the way that they

should. One of the things that we

1:55:411:55:46

want to do with this working group,

we want to come up with new ideas as

1:55:461:55:50

to how we're going to deal with

this. We want to make a real sea

1:55:501:55:54

change, but we also want to talk the

employers about how they need to put

1:55:541:56:00

these protocols into place and how

they need to be much more rigorous

1:56:001:56:03

about it.

Since the Weinstein

scandal broke, how many people have

1:56:031:56:08

come forward with complaints of

sexual harassment and worse, serious

1:56:081:56:12

complaints of sexual assault?

I am

not privy to actual figures, and I'm

1:56:121:56:19

certainly not privy to names either

of people bringing their stories or

1:56:191:56:23

who the stories are about.

It must

have been the only topic of

1:56:231:56:28

conversation for the last few weeks.

Is it dozens, is it hundreds?

I have

1:56:281:56:35

no idea. I'm not trying to pull the

wool over your eyes. The whole point

1:56:351:56:41

about Equity is that it is entirely

secret. You bring your story and the

1:56:411:56:47

Equity staff went even speak to me.

They won't tell the president of the

1:56:471:56:52

union. What I can tell you,

absolutely of course, since these

1:56:521:56:57

revelations have come about people

have felt empowered to speak out and

1:56:571:57:01

people who would frightened or

guilty about speaking out, because

1:57:011:57:05

they felt it was their fault, of

course they have been empowered. So

1:57:051:57:10

we have seen a Equity a huge upsurge

of people bringing their stories to

1:57:101:57:14

ask.

What does Equity think about

actors naming others and social

1:57:141:57:19

media, alleging they have been

seriously sexually assaulted? The

1:57:191:57:24

British actor Ed Westwick

strenuously denies accusations by an

1:57:241:57:31

American actress that he raped her.

He said he's never met her or forced

1:57:311:57:36

himself on anyone and certainly

never committed rape.

Well, the

1:57:361:57:44

problem of course is that there

facts and there's gossip, and those

1:57:441:57:48

people climbing on bandwagons. There

are lots and lots of grey areas and

1:57:481:57:53

we have to be very, very careful

about this.

Very briefly because

1:57:531:57:58

we're running out of time, the

principal about naming someone on

1:57:581:58:01

social media, is that a good thing

or not?

I'm not on social media, I

1:58:011:58:08

think it's a dodgy area and I think

you have to be very, very sure of

1:58:081:58:11

what you're doing before you start

naming people.

Thank you.

1:58:111:58:19

Kevin Spacey denies allegations of

sexual harassment and Harvey

1:58:191:58:26

Weinstein denies allegations of

non-conceptual sex.

1:58:261:58:30

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