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Hello it's Monday, it's nine
o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
welcome to the programme. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
Business leaders from the UK
and Europe are meeting | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
with the prime minister today. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:17 | |
They want to get some sort of deal
in place to ensure that trade is not | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
badly affected after Britain leaves
the EU. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:28 | |
Also - in Britain, they're
the silent minority - | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
Chinese people rarely feature
in the national conversation; | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
but we've learned that their silence
when it comes to health can be | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
a matter of life and death;
and old cultural traditions can see | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
new mums confined for a month
in their homes following childbirth | 0:00:38 | 0:00:45 | |
You shouldn't drink cold drinks
during the month, shouldn't really | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
shower will stop hair washing is not
allowed. And not going outside the | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
boundaries of your house. We will
bring you our film in 15 minutes. It | 0:00:54 | 0:01:01 | |
is fascinating and gives such
insight. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:07 | |
A British woman imprisoned in Iran
is close to a mental breakdown | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
and is having tests for breast
cancer according her husband. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
Nazanin Zaghari-Radcliffe
was arrested last year accused | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
of trying to overthrow the regime. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:15 | |
Her husband tells this programme
how his wife reacted | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
to the Froegin Secretary's
inaccurate comments | 0:01:18 | 0:01:19 | |
about why she was in Iran. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:24 | |
She was pretty cross, said things
that I couldn't repeat on | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
television. She also, you know,
yeah, I think, I think, was angry | 0:01:26 | 0:01:33 | |
with all sorts of people - with me,
with the campaign, with the | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
Government having done nothing.
She's just angry and it is just | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
unfair. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:42 | |
Richard Ratcliffe tells us | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
he is hopeful his wife could be | 0:01:44 | 0:01:45 | |
released on humanitarian grounds -
we'll hear from him after 9.30. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
Hello. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
Welcome to the programme,
we're live until 11 this morning. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
Monday morning and I have
this question for you - | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
how stressed are you? | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
New research today suggests that
over 80 per cent of us feel stressed | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
at some point during the week -
is that you? | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
What I'm really interested
in hearing from you this morning, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
is how you manage stress? | 0:02:20 | 0:02:21 | |
What you do to de-stress? | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
Let me know - and if you want
to come on air and talk about this, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
put CALL ME in your email. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
We will talk to you between half
past ten and half past 11. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
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So we are talking about that
and all the latest breaking news | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
including that earthquake in Iran. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:41 | |
Our top story today: Businesses
from across Europe will be | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
in Downing Street today
to voice their concerns | 0:02:44 | 0:02:45 | |
about trade after Brexit. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
The CBI and the Institute
of Directors will be represented - | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
as will business organisations
from Germany, France, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
Spain and seven other countries. | 0:02:54 | 0:03:01 | |
They will press Theresa May
and the Brexit Secretary, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
David Davis, to clarify the future
relationship between the UK | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
and the rest of the EU -
and demand they maintain current | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
arrangements. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
Chris Mason is at Westminster. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
They really want some clarity, and
they definitely don't have it, do | 0:03:13 | 0:03:18 | |
they? Good morning. They want
clarity. They want to be | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
de-stressed. We have this bus-load
of business leaders from Europe, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:31 | |
various groups having their say.
Urgency is the watchword we keep | 0:03:31 | 0:03:37 | |
hearing from them. They are saying
that the growing number of them are | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
enacting contingency plans around
Brexit, fearful that as the clock | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
ticks down there might not be an
arrangement put in place. They are | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
also uncertain as to exactly what
that arrangement might look like. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:56 | |
The Government is keen to reach out
to these groups, but given that they | 0:03:56 | 0:04:05 | |
are logjams over the initial
discussions about the divorce, it is | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
unlikely they will leave with more
clarity. Just remind us why the | 0:04:10 | 0:04:19 | |
talks are logjams at the moment. The
European Union has said that in | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
order to move on to the future
relationship that the UK can have | 0:04:23 | 0:04:28 | |
with the EU and trade, there has to
be sufficient progress, to use their | 0:04:28 | 0:04:34 | |
ill-defined idea, around the three
things on the table at the moment: | 0:04:34 | 0:04:40 | |
The Irish border, citizens' rights,
and what is seen as the divorce | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
payment. There is optimism that some
kind of deal can be arrived at, but | 0:04:43 | 0:04:48 | |
that hurdle of sufficient progress
-- that that hard goal can be | 0:04:48 | 0:04:54 | |
cleared before Christmas, but we saw
a delay at the October summit, the | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
first opportunity where that hurdle
may have been overcome. Until the EU | 0:04:58 | 0:05:08 | |
agrees that there has been progress,
their world with -- there will not | 0:05:08 | 0:05:14 | |
be any discussion about the future
trade agreement. The businesses say | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
they need clarity on that, and
quickly. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
Annita McVeigh is in the BBC
Newsroom with a summary | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
of the rest of the day's news. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:28 | |
An earthquake has killed more
than 300 people in Iran - | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
more than 2500 have been injured. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
Another four people have
been killed in Iraq. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
The quake hit the border area
between the two countries, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
around 30 kilometres south
of Halabja, with a magnitude of 7.3. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
It was so powerful, it was felt
as far away as Lebanon and Turkey. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Andrew Plant has more. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:55 | |
Carried
into hospital amid the chaos | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
at this clinic in Iran. | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
Victims of the earthquake
on stretchers, others, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
walking wounded, as more and more
of the injured arrived. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
The earthquake struck after dark. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
For rural villages in the affected
areas, the search is beginning | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
in torchlight for any
survivors that may be buried | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
in the fallen buildings. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
The shocks were felt in towns, too. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
People out for the evening running
to safety, finding a way outside | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
away from the danger,
scared there could be more to come. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
The first reports are
that the centre of the earthquake | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
was near the border
between Iran and Iraq, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
somewhere close to
the city of Halabja. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
The US Geological Survey said
that the epicentre was about 20 | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
miles south-west of the border. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:43 | |
Many people have lost their homes
and don't know where to sleep in the | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
coming days and weeks. That will
lead to a huge crisis, because there | 0:06:46 | 0:06:54 | |
are also issues with electricity in
the water supply. It has all been | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
damaged. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
The moment the earthquake struck | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
was even captured on live TV. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
These news broadcasters
feeling the tremors | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
as their programme played out. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:11 | |
Local media is now showing
emergency shelters and beds | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
being set up outside. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
15 emergency teams, they say,
are now helping treat the injured | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
and search for survivors. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
The number of dead is still
climbing, but it could be many days | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
before the real extent
of the damage done here | 0:07:27 | 0:07:36 | |
is fully clear. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
Andrew Plant, BBC News. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
Hundreds of people have marched
in Hollywood in support of victims | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
of sexual assault and harassment,
inspired by the 'MeToo' | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
social media campaign. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:47 | |
The march follows a series
of assault and harassment | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
allegations against public figures,
set off by revelations about | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
the movie mogul Harvey Weinstein. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:52 | |
The marchers started
on Hollywood Boulevard and walked | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
along the "Walk of Fame" to CNN's
headquarters. | 0:07:54 | 0:08:00 | |
The family of Nazanin
Zaghari-Ratcliffe, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
the British-Iranian woman jailed
in Tehran, say they're increasingly | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
concerned about her wellbeing. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
In a statement last night her
husband Richard said his wife | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
appeared to be "on the verge
of a nervous breakdown" | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
and is seeking treatment
after finding lumps in her breasts. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
The Foreign Secretary,
Boris Johnson, and his cabinet | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
colleague Michael Gove have both
been criticised for their | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
comments about the case. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:27 | |
The key thing to understand is that
we're working very very hard and | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
intensively and impartially on all
those cases. Thank you very much. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
Thank you. See you later. Thank you. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
The Church of England
is telling its schools that | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
children should be free
to explore their identity and both | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
boys and girls should be
allowed to wear a tutu, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
tiara or superhero cloak
without judgement from | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
teachers or other pupils. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
The new guidelines aim to prevent
children being bullied | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
because of their sexual orientation
or gender identity. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
Jon Donnison reports: | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
The Church of England first issued
guidance on homophobic bullying | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
in its schools three years ago. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
Today, those guidelines
are being updated to include | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
bullying against children
and adolescents who identify | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
as transgender or bisexual. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:12 | |
It comes after a controversial case
on the Isle of Wight where one | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
couple withdrew their son
from a Church of England primary | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
school because another pupil asked
to be accepted as transgender. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
Our child came home
from school one day and said, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
"Daddy, I am confused." | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
There was a boy in his class
who is sometimes coming as a boy | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
and sometimes coming as a girl. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
We were concerned about that
because it is very confusing. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
How do they deal with that? | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
Let us remember, these
are primary school children, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
they are six years of age. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
But the new guidance stresses
children should be able to play | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
with what it calls the many
cloaks of identity. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
It says children are at
the trying-on stage of life, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
so no labels need to be fixed. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
And the Archbishop of Canterbury,
Justin Welby, writes | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
in the new guidance... | 0:10:02 | 0:10:10 | |
But the Church is by no means united
on the issue of human sexuality, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
and this latest guidance is likely
to divide opinion. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
Jon Donnison, BBC News. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
Gun owners in England and Wales
are being encouraged to hand | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
in their weapons to the police
as part of a two week long | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
gun surrender scheme. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
People giving up their firearms
won't face prosecution | 0:10:30 | 0:10:36 | |
for illegal possession,
but could be questioned if a gun | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
is found to be linked to a crime. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
Sima Kotecha reports. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
Hand
in your guns, and no | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
questions will be asked. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
That is what police forces
across England and Wales are calling | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
upon people to do. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:52 | |
The last firearms surrender
was in 2014, when 6000 handguns, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
rifles and imitation
firearms were handed in. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
It is targeted at those who may have
forgotten about owning a gun, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
or may be too scared to tell
officers they have got one, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
in case they are arrested. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:04 | |
The deal is, no questions will be
asked at the point of surrender. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
However, if the weapon is traced
back to a crime scene, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
they could be called
in for questioning. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:16 | |
We're realistic enough to realise
that we're not going to get hardened | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
gang members, in possession
of weapons they intend to use, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
hand in a gun. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
But this is part of our response,
to try and make it as difficult | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
as possible for those people to come
into possession of any type | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
of weapon at all. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
Latest figures show that there
were almost 7000 crimes involving | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
firearms in England
and Wales last year. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
That is an increase of 27%
on the year before. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
But the number of crimes
is still far less than a decade ago, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
when it was 31% higher. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
Critics say those who want to use
a gun will do so, and the surrender | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
won't make a difference. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
It begins today, and
lasts for two weeks. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:05 | |
Bob Geldof says he is handing back
his Freedom of the City of Dublin - | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
because the same honour has been
granted to the Burmese political | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
leader, Aung San Suu Kyi. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
He's described the treatment
by Myanmar's military | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
of the Rohingya Muslim
minority community as "mass | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
ethnic cleansing." | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
The Live Aid organiser said his home
city had honoured Aung San Suu Kyi - | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
but now she had appalled and shamed
Dublin. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:33 | |
Jupiter and Venus -
the two brightest planets - | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
have been appearing very close
together in the morning sky. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
Both have been visible
to the naked eye across the UK. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
The best viewing time was 40
minutes before sunrise. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
While the planets are visible
to the naked eye, viewers | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
with a telescope have also been able
to see Jupiter's | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
four Galilean moons. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC
News - more at 9.30. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:58 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
Do get in touch with us
throughout the morning - | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
use the hashtag Victoria LIVE
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You research suggests that most of
us get stressed at least once a | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
week. Zane says, hope this e-mail
finds you well. Maybe it sounds | 0:13:21 | 0:13:28 | |
crazy, but I cancel myself in front
of the mirror and bring myself down. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
My life is full of stress, and I'm
not the type of person to discuss my | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
issues with others. I definitely try
to avoid therapists. Bruce says, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
this is an easy one for me. In order
to de-stressed, I get on my | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
motorbike and ride around the Kent
countryside where there is little | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
traffic and great scenery. That gets
rid of any stress with ease. Thank | 0:13:50 | 0:13:56 | |
you for those. I am interested to
find out what you do to de-stress. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:02 | |
How do you manage your stress? If
you want to talk to me between half | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
past ten and how past 11, put in
your e-mail call me, and we will. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:13 | |
Time for some sport now -
and Jessica Creighton is in Basel | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
for us, where Northern Ireland
suffered heartbreak last night - | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
they won't be going to the World Cup
- and all because of one penalty, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
Jessica? | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
Good morning, Victoria. It is a
cruel way for it all to end for | 0:14:24 | 0:14:30 | |
Northern Ireland. One controversial
penalty decision that they conceded | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
in the first leg for a supposed
handball. Many people have | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
questioned that because it seemed to
strike the Northern Ireland player | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
on the back of the shoulder, but it
was judged as handball, the referee | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
gave a penalty. And because of that,
it seems, the Northern Ireland World | 0:14:45 | 0:14:50 | |
Cup dream is over. In the second
leg, they gave it their all. Such a | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
brave performance. They had a few
chances. They came so close in the | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
dying moments when Jonny Evans'
header was cleared off the line. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
They were utterly devastated, the
players on their knees. Some of them | 0:15:03 | 0:15:08 | |
were fighting tears, I guess,
reflecting what might have been, had | 0:15:08 | 0:15:15 | |
that controversial penalty decision
not gone against them. Here is what | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
the manager, Michael O'Neill, had to
say. It would be too strong a word | 0:15:18 | 0:15:24 | |
to say cheated, but you do feel
there is a certain injustice to | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
going out of a tournament in this
page. A lot of people said | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
Switzerland were far superior to us
in the first leg, but they only | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
scored the penalty, not anything
else, so we could have come here | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
0-0, could still have been playing,
playing extra time now, so there is | 0:15:41 | 0:15:47 | |
an injustice there, a huge
injustice, given the nature of what | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
has divided the teams. What next for
Michael O'Neill and Northern | 0:15:50 | 0:15:57 | |
Ireland? This was seen as their best
chance of making it to a World Cup, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
wasn't it? | 0:16:00 | 0:16:07 | |
Exactly. 80 years ago if you have
said they were close to making a | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
World Cup the few people would have
laughed only. -- a few years ago. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
Been on a journey -- they have been
on a journey. They are ranked just | 0:16:14 | 0:16:21 | |
outside the top 20. They had this
incredible run and they got the last | 0:16:21 | 0:16:29 | |
16 last year. So they are incredible
competition on the world stage. Now | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
they have failed to qualify, you
wonder what might happen to some of | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
their veteran players, the likes of
the Captain Steven Davis and Gareth | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
McAuley. Will that be the last time
we see them in the green and white | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
of Northern Ireland? And the
manager, Michael O'Neill, has | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
received so much praise for the
transformation Northern Ireland have | 0:16:49 | 0:16:54 | |
undergone. But he has been touted as
the person to fill the vacant | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
Scotland manager position. It might
be all change for Northern Ireland | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
in the future. Thanks very much.
Welcome to the programme. I really | 0:17:03 | 0:17:10 | |
would urge you to watch our first
film today. It is about the minority | 0:17:10 | 0:17:16 | |
in Britain which is practically
invisible. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:25 | |
Chinese people make up
0.9% of our population. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
They rarely speak out,
let alone feature in | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
the national conversation. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:30 | |
This really matters when it
comes to their health - | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
that's when it can become
about life or death. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
This programme has learned that
those in the Chinese community often | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
hide or ignore illnesses
because of their culture. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
We've heard how women
are being encouraged to "confine" | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
themselves in their homes
for a whole month after having | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
a baby - and how the elderly
are suffering in silence | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
because of pressure to be
"stoic" and "endure" pain. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
But as one health expert
tells our reporter Amber Haque - | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
"Just because we're silent
and polite doesn't mean | 0:17:53 | 0:17:54 | |
we should be ignored". | 0:17:54 | 0:18:04 | |
Chinese is well known to be
invisible and silent, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
we all know that. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:12 | |
Just because we are silent
and polite, doesn't mean | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
we should be ignored. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
TRANSLATION: They work longer hours,
where work takes number one | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
and health takes a back-seat. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
They feel that, if I've got cancer,
it's a given, I should endure pain. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:31 | |
I feel like crying because we're
talking about really serious stuff | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
and it's really like a big deal
for mum to be doing this. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
TRANSLATION: At one point,
I thought of committing suicide, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
because I thought there's no hope. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:50 | |
They came here in the early 19th
century, and now the Chinese | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
community make-up 0.9%
of our population. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
In 2015, more Chinese people
immigrated to the UK than any other | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
country apart from India. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
Sometimes they are referred
to as the silent minority | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
because they keep their heads down
and work hard. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
But, as a result, health experts
tell us that some in the Chinese | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
community are being overlooked
and failing to get | 0:19:34 | 0:19:35 | |
access to treatment. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:45 | |
Dr Kip Wu is a neurologist
at Kings College Hospital. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
She's been concerned
by the lack of British Chinese | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
engaging with the NHS. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:55 | |
And she's decided to set
up her own voluntary service. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
Those people could actually be
accessing NHS health | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
care, but they weren't. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:05 | |
There are cultural practices
and beliefs that hinder them | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
from getting the best service
that they require. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
One of the Chinese cultural beliefs
is saving face and keeping | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
illnesses to yourself,
within the family, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
to avoid embarrassment. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:16 | |
And I see that quite often
in Chinese families. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
And these cultural expectations
start right from the beginning, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
when a mum gives birth to a baby. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:33 | |
Sitting month, as in confinement
after childbirth, is a tradition | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
so ingrained in Chinese culture that
even I did it myself, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
some practices. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
Some of the very strict rules
are that you shouldn't drink cold | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
drinks during the month,
you shouldn't really shower, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
hair washing is not allowed,
and obviously not going outside | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
the boundaries of your house. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
Do you think the rest of the country
know that some Chinese women | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
are confining themselves for a month
after giving birth? | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
No, they don't, and especially
in the health profession. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:21 | |
Today we are going to cook a black
fungus chicken for a mum | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
who is currently practising Chinese
postnatal confinement | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
period in London. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:37 | |
Just turning brown now. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
So, mums who are doing this don't
leave the house for a whole month. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
They don't have any guests,
sometimes they don't actually | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
wash their hair or have a shower,
and they have to eat only | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
certain types of food. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:49 | |
Why is this believed to be
so healing for the mother? | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
They believe it will reset the body,
they believe in ying and yang | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
and they want to keep the body warm
and ignore the cold food. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
Black fungus. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
So the black fungus,
they have the properties | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
of cleansing the womb. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:03 | |
Smells good. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
How many Chinese women that live
here in the UK do you think actually | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
carry confinement out? | 0:22:10 | 0:22:11 | |
I think plenty. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:12 | |
Plenty of them will be carrying
out this confinement, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
if they have the chance. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
Basically they are just delighted
that they can actually practice | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
postnatal confinement the Chinese
way here in the UK without shipping | 0:22:19 | 0:22:25 | |
the mother or their aunt
or a confinement lady | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
across from Asia. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
Make it modern. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
Postnatal your way,
in the city, you know? | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
It's not ancient any more. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
So, for obvious reasons,
we're not allowed to film | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
with the mum in her house when she's
doing the confinement period, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
but I have found one mum who's
willing to talk to me via Skype. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
Her name's Ching, and she actually
hasn't left the house | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
for nearly 28 days. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:51 | |
Hi, Ching. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:52 | |
Hi there. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
Did it ever cross your mind to not
do the confinement period? | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
Not at all, actually. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
I come originally from Singapore
and it's part of our culture | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
to definitely do confinement,
so it was more about making sure | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
I can import that over to the UK
since I'm doing it here. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
Being confined in your flat actually
is important because, for us, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
if you don't practice it,
then you are just disadvantaging | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
yourself, kind of thing. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
So, your husband is English,
what did he think when you told him | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
you were going to go a whole month
without leaving the house | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
or having any visitors? | 0:23:28 | 0:23:29 | |
I don't think he realised that it
came with a whole set | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
of practices and rules,
and it was a bit difficult for him | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
because he wanted to show
off his baby. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
My husband didn't really know
what was going when I said, "Oh, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
I need to practice confinement." | 0:23:42 | 0:23:43 | |
And his family as well. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
So it is quite obvious that there's
a lack of understanding or even | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
awareness that it even exists. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:51 | |
But I can see why
it can be isolating. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
Although Ching has employed her own
private health visitor, | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
there is a concern confinement means
babies aren't being | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
seen by professionals. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:03 | |
Dr Wu thinks the health
of mum and baby could | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
sometimes be compromised. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:07 | |
New mums can often be left
in isolation, and that's quite | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
difficult for them to cope. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
When they have medical problems,
they try to solve it | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
within themselves, and sometimes
that can have detrimental effects | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
to the health of themselves
and to the baby. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
It's almost as though we're
not allowed to be sad | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
or unhappy during confinement,
and having negative emotions around | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
the mum is almost discouraged. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:28 | |
Sometimes signs of baby blues
or postnatal depression are missed. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:38 | |
Into adulthood, some Chinese
people aren't seeking help | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
because they feel they should
endure problems themselves. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
They are one of the most dispersed
communities in Britain, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
and when language is a barrier it
makes the isolation even harder. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:12 | |
I forgot, sorry. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
Cheers! | 0:25:24 | 0:25:25 | |
Thank you. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:31 | |
Elly Lee's worked in the catering
trade in rural Worcestershire | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
since moving from Hong Kong
with a son and daughter in the 90s. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
She's got stage four cancer,
meaning it's advanced, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
and it's spread round her body. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
TRANSLATION: It came back
that the cancer had spread | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
in my lungs, my liver
and my sternum. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
So it was several shocks over
the course of a few weeks. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:06 | |
The Chinese community can have
stigma around cancer, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
and some may not even
tell their families. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:15 | |
It was like a movie unfolding. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
It was a bit difficult
to accept all of a sudden. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:26 | |
I think cancer is already
a really lonely experience, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
but if you feel that you're not able
to attend cancer support groups, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
then it becomes more of a problem. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
I'm coming, I'm coming! | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
TRANSLATION: The majority
of the Chinese community here work | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
predominantly in the catering trade. | 0:26:53 | 0:27:02 | |
They work long hours
where work takes number one, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
and health takes a back-seat. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
I'm speaking out to help Chinese
people have an awareness of health. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:16 | |
I feel like crying,
because we're talking | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
about really serious stuff,
and it's really... | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
It's really... | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
It's really, like, a big deal
for mum to be doing this. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:42 | |
There is still some degree
of fatalism when you hear the word | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
cancer, often they associate it
with death and they sometimes don't | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
realise that certain cancers,
if detected early or if managed | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
in the right way, could be
potential for cure, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
and even if the doctor asked
directly, sometimes they will deny | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
to say that they are in pain,
when they may be in pain, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
and they feel that, if I've got
cancer, it's a given, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
I should endure pain,
or they will try to treat it | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
with traditional Chinese medicine. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:20 | |
There are certain attitudes
within the Chinese community, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
especially the family members,
who feel that perhaps | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
information should be
restricted from the patient, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
whereas the patient themselves may
actually want to have all the facts. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:35 | |
I came across a Chinese lady
who was in her mid-50s. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
The scan showed that she had a brain
tumour, and when I went | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
to speak to the family,
the son was there and he asked | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
the mum to go out and then he said
to me, "Doctor, is it cancer, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
because I really don't
want my mum to know." | 0:28:48 | 0:28:55 | |
It is difficult to try to convince
them that, yes, we can help | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
you fight the battle with cancer,
but you do not need | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
to suffer in the process. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:10 | |
Good morning, everyone here,
welcome to our centre. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
I'm here to talk to you
today about dementia. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:31 | |
The original, the old translation
of dementia in Chinese is horrific. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:39 | |
It means you are old,
you're dilapidated, you've gone | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
mad, you've gone nutty. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:48 | |
There are a whole generation
of first-generation migrants | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
now living in the UK,
and they are very isolated. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:55 | |
The fortunate ones will have
the spouse still living with them, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
but we know lots and lots
of the elderly Chinese are living | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
alone, and they will find it very,
very difficult to actually find any | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
mainstream services that cater
for them, their needs. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:12 | |
Six o'clock on a cold
night in London. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:21 | |
Mr Tang's 73 and lives
on his own in a tiny bedsit. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:32 | |
He's got prostate cancer, and he's
decided against any treatment. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
He's in pain and he can't walk. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
Volunteer carers from
the Chinese Centre come | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
to see him when they can,
but some days Mr Tang | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
says he won't eat. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
TRANSLATION: I only went
to the doctor when I had signs | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
of pain when urinating. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
Only when I had trouble
going to the toilet, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
I went to the doctors. | 0:30:55 | 0:31:00 | |
I wouldn't go before. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:01 | |
What did the doctors say
to you when you chose not | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
to have chemotherapy? | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
TRANSLATION: One doctor tried
to tell me to have chemotherapy, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
as I will certainly die if I don't. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
I said, no, as with almost
all cancers you're certain to die, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:22 | |
or you won't last long,
as there's no cure. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:30 | |
My children have grown
up, left the family. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
They are well-educated,
I've done my duty. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:41 | |
So, even if I live longer or die,
it doesn't make a difference. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
I've done my duty. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
There are elderly ladies and
gentlemen who are in their own home, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
literally not going out,
trying to confine the problem | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
within themselves. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
They don't want to bother, let's
say, an outsider with what they fear | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
is their own problem. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:07 | |
Are you OK? | 0:32:07 | 0:32:08 | |
Yeah. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
No-one would know that
you are in so much pain, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
not able to speak English
to communicate with anyone. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:23 | |
It must just be such
a lonely experience for you. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
TRANSLATION: At one point,
I thought of committing suicide. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
Because I thought, there's no hope. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:35 | |
There's a clear lack
of representation of | 0:32:40 | 0:32:41 | |
the British Chinese in the media,
politics and the arts. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
But for some in the community,
that silence can deafening. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
Chinese is well known to be
invisible and silent. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:55 | |
We all know that that must be
related to our own culture as well. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
We do not like to make
complaint or make a fuss, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
even if we're not very happy
with the situation. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
We're quiet, we don't make a noise. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
Politicians don't take much notice. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
Public Health England have told us
they are aware some in the Chinese | 0:33:09 | 0:33:14 | |
community aren't accessing health
care, and say they are improving | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
the way they collect information
about them as a group. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:21 | |
We're often grouped in a box along
with other ethnicities | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
on statistical data collection
forms, and that means our specific | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
needs are not being looked into,
and the fact that we had to set up | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
an online medical advisory
service off our own back | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
is a reflection of that. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
Just because we are silent
and polite, doesn't mean | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
we should be ignored. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:48 | |
Karen says: It's not just Chinese
mums you do this. It took me a month | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
to break the outside world after my
son was born after emergency | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
Caesarean. You are both adapting to
this time together. I don't think | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
it's unique or an unusual process
for new parents. Trevor says girl on | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
my daughter-in-law is Chinese. She
did not mention or comply with this | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
tradition and was active within a
couple of days of giving birth. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
In the next half hour
we are going to talk to Eddie Tang | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
whose family shunned him
when his son got cancer as a child | 0:34:15 | 0:34:20 | |
And to a woman whose mum refused to
seek help for cervical cancer until | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
she collapsed one day. She has asked
to remain anonymous because she | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
thinks there may be a backlash from
her family for speaking out. This | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
story came from a viewer who
contacted me. If you think there is | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
a story or issue we should
potentially look at, please send us | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
an e-mail. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:40 | |
Still to come: | 0:34:40 | 0:34:47 | |
As fears grow for British- Iranian
mum Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe grow, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
we will hear the latest on her
detention from her husband Richard. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:56 | |
And as business leaders from around
Europe prepared to meet Theresa May, | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
we will hear from both sides of the
Brexit divide. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
Time for the latest
news - here's Annita. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:12 | |
Business leaders will be in Downing
Street to press the Government to | 0:35:19 | 0:35:26 | |
clarify the future relationship
between the UK and the rest of the | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
EU and to demand that they maintain
current arrangements. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:41 | |
An earthquake has killed more
than 300 people in Iran - | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
more than 2500 have been injured. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:49 | |
Another four people have
been killed in Iraq. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
The quake hit the border area
between the two countries, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
around 30 kilometres south
of Halabja, with a magnitude of 7.3. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
It was so powerful, it was felt
as far away as Lebanon and Turkey. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
The family of Nazanin
Zaghari-Ratcliffe, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:01 | |
the British-Iranian woman jailed
in Tehran, say they're increasingly | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
concerned about her wellbeing. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:04 | |
In a statement last night her
husband Richard said his wife | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
appeared to be "on the verge
of a nervous breakdown" | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
and is seeking treatment
after finding lumps in her breasts. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
The Foreign Secretary,
Boris Johnson, and his cabinet | 0:36:12 | 0:36:13 | |
colleague Michael Gove have both
been criticised for their | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
comments about the case. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
Bob Geldof says he is handing back
his Freedom of the City of Dublin - | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
because the same honour has been
granted to the Burmese political | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
leader Aung San Suu Kyi. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
He's described the treatment
by Myanmar's military | 0:36:27 | 0:36:28 | |
of the Rohingya Muslim
minority community as "mass | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
ethnic cleansing." | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
The Live Aid organiser said his home
city had honoured Aung San Suu Kyi - | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
but now she had appalled and shamed
Dublin. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:43 | |
That is a summary of the latest
news. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:51 | |
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that four out of five of us are
stressed each week. A woman says, | 0:36:57 | 0:37:03 | |
after being made redundant through
every job I've had through company | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
closures, I am currently in a job I
don't enjoy. Through that and other | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
things I am stressed on a daily
basis. I am starting my own | 0:37:10 | 0:37:17 | |
business, in course, and relaxing in
a hot bubble bath every night. I am | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
trying to invest in my own
happiness. And a couple more fun | 0:37:20 | 0:37:26 | |
now, Kayla says, when I'm stressed
that, I lie on my bed with my eyes | 0:37:26 | 0:37:32 | |
closed and I listen to some ocean
music. When they introduced that on | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
this programme soon. Whalley says, I
divert focus from myself. I swim | 0:37:36 | 0:37:45 | |
frequently, Dahlia possible, learned
to play a musical instrument and | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
join a band or orchestra. Do jobs in
the garden or care for my house | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
plans. Have someone to love and work
hard to ensure that that person | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
loves you. Thank you for those. Keep
them coming in. We are interested to | 0:37:57 | 0:38:02 | |
hear how you manage your stress how
you try to de-stress. If you want to | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
have a chat about how he do it, put
call me in e-mail. Type a spot now. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:15 | |
We start with Northern Ireland,
because as we heard, they won't be | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
going to Russia next summer after
their goalless draw with | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
Switzerland. Their manager Michael
O'Neill described their performance | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
is amazing.
Katie Archibald and Elinor Barker | 0:38:28 | 0:38:34 | |
got their second winds of the
weekend in team pursuit. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:39 | |
Lewis Hamilton was driver of the day
at the Brazilian Grand Prix. He | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
started last in the race but
finished fourth, as Sebastian Vettel | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
took the honours.
And Roger Federer opened with a | 0:38:46 | 0:38:51 | |
straight sets win over Jack Sock at
the ATP tour finals in London. At | 0:38:51 | 0:38:58 | |
the age of 36, Roger Federer is
playing in this event for the 15th | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
time. That is always my answer to
beating stress, Victoria - get out | 0:39:02 | 0:39:07 | |
and take some exercise.
And a lot of people agree with you! | 0:39:07 | 0:39:14 | |
The husband of Nazanin
Zaghari-Ratcliffe - | 0:39:14 | 0:39:15 | |
the British woman jailed in Iran -
says the Foreign Secretary, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
Boris Johnson, has told him he's
considering whether she could be | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
granted "diplomatic
protection" status. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:22 | |
Her family say she's on the verge
of a nervous breakdown, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
and has seen doctors about lumps
in her breasts. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:32 | |
In April 2016, Nazanin was arrested
while visiting Iran to visit family | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
and for her daughter
to meet her grandparents. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
On the 1st of November Mr Johnson
wrongly said she had been training | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
journalists in Iran. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:48 | |
When you look at what Nazanin
Zaghari-Ratcliffe was doing, it's | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
just, she was simply teaching people
journalism, as I understand it. Four | 0:39:52 | 0:39:59 | |
days later, Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe
was re-called to court in Iran. Mr | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
Johnson's remark was cited as new
evidence against her, prompting | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
fears that her five-year jail
sentence could be extended. By the | 0:40:07 | 0:40:13 | |
7th of November, Boris Johnson was
forced to clarify his remarks to MPs | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
and said he was sorry if his remarks
caused anxiety. The UK Government | 0:40:16 | 0:40:23 | |
has no doubt that she was on holiday
in Iran when she was arrested last | 0:40:23 | 0:40:28 | |
year, and that was the sole purpose
of her visit. I accept that my | 0:40:28 | 0:40:33 | |
remarks could have been clearer in
that respect, and I'm glad to | 0:40:33 | 0:40:39 | |
provide this clarification. On
Saturday, Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe's | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
family said she was taken to
hospital for an ultrasound, saying | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
she had been complaining of sharp
stabbing pains in her breasts for | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
more than a year. Yesterday, the
environment secretary came under | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
fire for saying he didn't know what
Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was doing | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
in Iran when she was arrested in
2016. Speaking in Brussels this | 0:40:59 | 0:41:04 | |
morning, Boris Johnson says the case
as the be handled sensitively. The | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
key thing to understand is that
we're working very, very hard and | 0:41:08 | 0:41:14 | |
intensively, and impartially, on all
those cases. Thank you very much. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
Thank you. See you later. Thank you.
I've been speaking to Richard | 0:41:17 | 0:41:23 | |
Radcliffe, who told me he felt
compelled to e-mail the foreign | 0:41:23 | 0:41:31 | |
office. Following Michael Gove's
comments, which I didn't pick up on | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
and the time -- at the time, so I
wrote to our main contact the | 0:41:35 | 0:41:45 | |
foreign office and said, listen, can
you please remind all cabinet | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
members that the UK Government has
no doubt that Nazanin was there on | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
holiday? That is the UK policy and
it is not my job to police, but | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
these things shouldn't be spread
around. Let's be honest, it's | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
unlikely that Michael Gove's
comments would suddenly be appearing | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
in the Iranians media, but if it
goes to trial, they collect all this | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
evidence and it gets piled up.
Obviously, the most important person | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
at this point is the Foreign
Secretary, who is the voice and | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
presence of the UK. It is important
that the battles for Nazanin, and it | 0:42:16 | 0:42:22 | |
was important that he clarified.
Less important for Michael Gove to | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
do it. Michael Gove is the
environment secretary, and he was | 0:42:24 | 0:42:29 | |
asked about your wife's case
yesterday on the Andrew Marr | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
programme. I want to play the
relevant clip of the audience so | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
they know what we're talking about.
What was she doing when she went to | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
Iran? I don't know. One of the
things I want to stress is that | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
there is no reason why Nazanin
Zaghari-Ratcliffe should be | 0:42:44 | 0:42:50 | |
imprisoned in Iran as far as any of
us know. No evidence has been | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
produced which suggests she should
be detained. We know the Iranians | 0:42:54 | 0:42:59 | |
regime is capable of abusing the
human rights of its own citizens. It | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
appears here to be harming the human
rights of someone whose plight | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
necessarily moves us all. You say
you don't know what she was doing. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
Her husband is clear that she was on
holiday with her child. In her case, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
I take -- in that case, I take her
husband's assurance in that regard. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:20 | |
The problem with that exchanges that
Mr Gove said he did not know why | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
your wife was there. You said you
did not see that interview live, but | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
members of your family were pretty
cross. And it was picked up on in | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
social media and lots of other
people were responding. What he says | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
is reasonable and helpful, it's just
the emphatic, I don't know, at the | 0:43:35 | 0:43:40 | |
beginning. And the fact that he says
he is happy to take my word for it. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:45 | |
The Foreign Secretary said in
Parliament that the UK Government | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
has no doubt. Were you surprised? Mr
Gove is usually very precise with | 0:43:47 | 0:43:53 | |
his words, very well briefed. So
much happened that there were bigger | 0:43:53 | 0:44:00 | |
things. I spoke to the Foreign
Secretary. It's the first time I've | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
done that in a long time. That is
not an intimidating. -- that is not | 0:44:03 | 0:44:14 | |
not intimidating. In terms of your
conversation with the Foreign | 0:44:14 | 0:44:19 | |
Secretary, did he apologise for his
inaccurate, it's a couple of weeks | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
ago which could potentially make
your wife's situation and jail | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
sentence longer? He didn't mention
the comments. He said he was sorry | 0:44:26 | 0:44:32 | |
for Nazanin's suffering and that all
the country was behind her. We | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
talked about meeting soon. We talked
about me going to Iran with him and | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
he said he would look at it
seriously. I asked him to look at | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
him personally offering her
diplomatic protection, which would | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
mean that there would be much more
protection given to her by the | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
British Government. Are you
surprised that it has taken this | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
long for the Foreign Secretary to
pick up the phone? I've been | 0:44:53 | 0:44:57 | |
complaining on your show and others
that I want the Government to be | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
doing more, and publicly will stop
the foreign office have been saying | 0:45:01 | 0:45:07 | |
they think it is important that they
don't. It has taken a gaffe for the | 0:45:07 | 0:45:12 | |
Foreign Secretary to pick up the
phone to you. We are in a different | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
place now, clearly, where his words
are being used by the Iranians, and | 0:45:15 | 0:45:19 | |
it is important that he stands up
for her, that I stand alongside him, | 0:45:19 | 0:45:23 | |
and that together, we try to bring
her home as soon as possible. Did Mr | 0:45:23 | 0:45:28 | |
Johnson give your potential
timescale when it comes of this -- | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
comes to this possibility of a trip
to Iran? He said, let's meet in a | 0:45:31 | 0:45:36 | |
few days and we can talk about it. I
imagine, when we come to meet, it | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
will be clearer. Is the meeting
scheduled? Not yet, but hopefully | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
soon. Let's talk about the health of
your wife, because you say that | 0:45:44 | 0:45:49 | |
lumps have been found in both her
breast. What other information do | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
you have? Exactly that. She had a
mammography a few months ago. You | 0:45:52 | 0:46:05 | |
have two fight quite hard to get
outside services. She was told by | 0:46:05 | 0:46:11 | |
the specialist that they thought it
was OK but she should probably come | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
back. But this needs to be tucked up
on. Beyond that, I am holding on to | 0:46:15 | 0:46:23 | |
the specialist saying it is probably
benign, and let's take it from | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
there. I'm much more sensitive to
this, sort of, wider, I don't know, | 0:46:27 | 0:46:33 | |
emotional... I said a number of
times that I'm on the verge of a | 0:46:33 | 0:46:38 | |
nervous breakdown. -- she said a
number of times. She is very up and | 0:46:38 | 0:46:42 | |
down. There were times on the phone
yesterday where she was laughing, | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
really angry, and crying Comanche
talks about not being able to | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
control her emotions. She gets angry
over the smallest things. -- and | 0:46:49 | 0:46:57 | |
crying, and she talks about. I think
it is what has happened in the last | 0:46:57 | 0:47:03 | |
few months, and compounded by what
happened over the last couple of | 0:47:03 | 0:47:08 | |
weeks, watching our family being
used to propagate her as a spy. Then | 0:47:08 | 0:47:14 | |
fellow prisoners ask why are you on
the TV all the time, what about us? | 0:47:14 | 0:47:19 | |
You mean it has lent to resentment?
Yes, because nobody has an easy life | 0:47:19 | 0:47:26 | |
there, everybody takes it as they
can and that is where it is. How did | 0:47:26 | 0:47:31 | |
she react to Mr Johnson's errors?
She was pretty cross. She said | 0:47:31 | 0:47:36 | |
things I could not repeat on
television. She also, you know, was | 0:47:36 | 0:47:43 | |
angry. Angry with me, angry with the
campaign, angry with the government | 0:47:43 | 0:47:47 | |
having done nothing, then the
government messing up. She's just | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
angry that it is unfair. You hope
your wife will be released on | 0:47:50 | 0:47:59 | |
humanitarian grounds, potentially
because of the recent health | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
problems you have just described,
how realistic is that? It's hard to | 0:48:02 | 0:48:08 | |
know what's realistic at all. It's
certainly possible. It is certainly | 0:48:08 | 0:48:14 | |
important I keep battling and that
the government keeps battling. If | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
you go back one month we were having
noise is being said, listen, she | 0:48:17 | 0:48:22 | |
will be eligible for humanitarian
release, and she would be entitled | 0:48:22 | 0:48:27 | |
to it next week -- eligible for it
next week. Really, I will hold on to | 0:48:27 | 0:48:31 | |
that and I will hope the Foreign
Secretary is able to engage, focus, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:35 | |
and worked his magic and bring her
home. Before Christmas? Yes. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:44 | |
The Prime Minister will meet leaders
from European business organisations | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
today as the UK prepares
to leave the EU. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:48 | |
The business leaders are expected
to demand an urgent breakthrough | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
on Brexit from Theresa May to kick
start the stalled | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
negotiations in Brussels. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:54 | |
Over the weekend, the EU's chief
negotiator, Michel Barnier, | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
said he was preparing
for the possible collapse | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
of negotiations with the UK,
but said he hoped it | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
wouldn't happen. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:03 | |
Today the Prime Minister will again
talk about the UK's commitment | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
to securing an implementation period
of around two years once Britain | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
leaves the EU in March 2019. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
Our political correspondent Chris
Mason is in Westminster for us. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:18 | |
Let's talk about the bigger picture,
which is Mrs May is weak, she has a | 0:49:18 | 0:49:24 | |
lot on her hands, trying to sort out
Brexit and trying to appease the | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
competing interest in her own party,
hasn't she? She has. This whole | 0:49:27 | 0:49:33 | |
issue of Brexit is going to become
again, front and centre this week | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
after a couple of weeks of it not
dominating the headlines as it has | 0:49:36 | 0:49:41 | |
for the best part of the last two
years. Yet, Theresa May, which ever | 0:49:41 | 0:49:46 | |
way she looks, has compromises to
consider and arms to twist. You look | 0:49:46 | 0:49:51 | |
at the conclusion of that round of
talks in Brussels at the ten end of | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
last week between Michel Barnier and
David Davis, there wasn't some huge | 0:49:54 | 0:50:01 | |
leap forward. There is optimism that
come the next summit in Brussels it | 0:50:01 | 0:50:06 | |
could be that the three issues being
looked at at the moment around the | 0:50:06 | 0:50:12 | |
divorce of the Irish border, and the
divorce settlement will make | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
sufficient progress to allow
movement onto the next stage. At the | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
same time, and there were headlines
over the weekend that illustrated | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
this, that the Prime Minister has to
keep her country and her party | 0:50:22 | 0:50:28 | |
onside. Ultimately because this was
a binary referendum forcing people | 0:50:28 | 0:50:33 | |
to fall on one side or the other,
but reaching some agreement as to | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
compete with the common interests of
those inclined one way and those | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
inclined the other. But compromise
is something that everybody will | 0:50:40 | 0:50:45 | |
find easy to swallow. Thanks very
much. Wait, let me ask you about the | 0:50:45 | 0:50:51 | |
report yesterday in one of the
Sunday papers that around 40 | 0:50:51 | 0:50:55 | |
Conservative MPs are ready to sign a
letter, emotion, a letter of no | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
confidence, I should say, in the PM,
not enough to trigger any kind of | 0:50:58 | 0:51:03 | |
leadership contest. But do you think
it's true? Westminster is a postcode | 0:51:03 | 0:51:08 | |
which perpetually harms to the sound
of gossip. You get these figures | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
which float around now and again. We
had similar numbers which were | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
kicked around in the immediate
aftermath of the cough -fest which | 0:51:15 | 0:51:20 | |
was the Prime Minister's conference
speech a couple of weeks ago. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:24 | |
Depending on who you speak to. Some
people dismiss that figure out of | 0:51:24 | 0:51:28 | |
hand. Others entertain it might be
broadly right. Crucially it isn't | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
sufficient to clear the threshold
that will be required to imperil | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
Theresa May's position. But we could
park all of those numbers. The | 0:51:35 | 0:51:41 | |
simple reality is that Theresa May
knows that after the general | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
election, in which she hopes to
stride forwards, but in reality | 0:51:45 | 0:51:50 | |
crunched backwards, is that she
governs at the consent of her | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
parliamentary party. -- she hoped to
stride forward. If senior members | 0:51:54 | 0:52:00 | |
say your time is up, then she is a
corner. But the clock is ticking | 0:52:00 | 0:52:05 | |
down. There is a complete lack and
-- lack of agreement about who she | 0:52:05 | 0:52:14 | |
would be replaced by if she toppled.
But you hear the argument that she | 0:52:14 | 0:52:18 | |
might be weak but she can also be
stable, because those forces, the | 0:52:18 | 0:52:23 | |
challenge of Brexit, the absence of
an obvious successor, might just | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
hold her in place despite
everything. Thanks, weak but stable, | 0:52:27 | 0:52:33 | |
that's the Prime Minister, said
Chris, but not christen himself. -- | 0:52:33 | 0:52:38 | |
but not Chris himself. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
Edwin Morgan, from the Institute
of Directors, whose colleagues | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
will be at the meeting
with Theresa May, Labour MP | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
Mary Creagh a remainer,
and Conservative MP | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
Michael Fabricant a Brexiteer. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
Good morning. Edwin, do your members
comedy businesses, have any clarity | 0:52:50 | 0:52:59 | |
on the transitional deal that we are
facing, any clarity on the end trade | 0:52:59 | 0:53:03 | |
deal that we seek? -- do your
members, businesses. We don't. It's | 0:53:03 | 0:53:11 | |
a serious problem for businesses
because they need to know in the | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
next three months, latest, watch the
transition deal is going to look | 0:53:14 | 0:53:18 | |
like. They need to know that so they
can find. If we get that agreed | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
pretty soon that will settle the
nerves and enable businesses not to | 0:53:22 | 0:53:27 | |
trigger any serious contingency
plans now. It's in the government's | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
interest to say to businesses, this
is what it will look like, this will | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
be the status quo in March 2019, you
won't have to move any of your | 0:53:34 | 0:53:42 | |
operations, move your staff...
Businesses do not want to map | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
adjustments. An adjustment to a new
transitional deal, and an adjustment | 0:53:46 | 0:53:52 | |
to the Brexit deal. -- do not want
two adjustments. Exactly. Just got | 0:53:52 | 0:54:00 | |
to be given a bit of time to say,
look, this is the final position you | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
will be in. Get used to it, check
your systems if you must, and make | 0:54:04 | 0:54:09 | |
your processes as smooth as you can.
Baby is a suggestion of a bridge to | 0:54:09 | 0:54:14 | |
something else, a Brexit deal for
example, but what if there isn't | 0:54:14 | 0:54:19 | |
one? -- there is a suggestion. That
would be bad from a business point | 0:54:19 | 0:54:24 | |
of view. Most of our members don't
even know what world trade deals | 0:54:24 | 0:54:30 | |
would look like with new customs
procedures. Frankly there is a big | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
job for businesses to prepare
anyway. But really they don't want | 0:54:34 | 0:54:38 | |
that crashed out scenario from where
we are now, which is very integrated | 0:54:38 | 0:54:44 | |
to just like everywhere else in the
world. Michael Fabricant, time seems | 0:54:44 | 0:54:49 | |
to be running out for a transitional
deal and a Brexit deal, would you | 0:54:49 | 0:54:54 | |
agree? Yes, and everybody expected
that. I used to set up radio | 0:54:54 | 0:55:00 | |
stations all round the world, and
Chris Mason got it right, he said | 0:55:00 | 0:55:05 | |
there is arm-twisting to do and
compromises to be made. Why doesn't | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
the Prime Minister do something to
get things moving? If we did that we | 0:55:08 | 0:55:17 | |
would be offering something more
than perhaps we needed to do. Let's | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
talk about the plight of British
people in Europe, living in Europe. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:25 | |
We are saying we want to guarantee
the rights of people from the | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
European Union... That's not the
major sticking point... It's one of | 0:55:29 | 0:55:34 | |
them... Theresa May has offered 20
billion euros, that's not enough, so | 0:55:34 | 0:55:38 | |
why do she not up it and then trade
talks can begin? Because I don't | 0:55:38 | 0:55:45 | |
think negotiation is surrendering.
You could set off a 100 billion, 200 | 0:55:45 | 0:55:49 | |
billion, do you think the taxpayer
would find that practical? You have | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
got to be practical of the time
limit for a good trade deal. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:57 | |
Negotiations take time. Don't
forget, the United Kingdom isn't | 0:55:57 | 0:56:02 | |
picked on Steyn or Andorra, or even
Luxembourg, the UK is the major | 0:56:02 | 0:56:08 | |
importer of German cars and four
French agriculture in Europe. -- the | 0:56:08 | 0:56:12 | |
United Kingdom isn't Lichtenstein.
Time is not only tough on ours. It | 0:56:12 | 0:56:20 | |
is. And it is also tough on the
Europeans, as well, and we have got | 0:56:20 | 0:56:24 | |
to work on this. -- time is not only
tough on us. Should the Prime | 0:56:24 | 0:56:29 | |
Minister negotiate for more time?
You can't do that. You can, you can | 0:56:29 | 0:56:34 | |
just put it into words! The Lisbon
Treaty says it will be the 19th of | 0:56:34 | 0:56:41 | |
March 2000 19. But we will have a
transition period. 11 o'clock in the | 0:56:41 | 0:56:46 | |
evening, perhaps. -- March 2019. We
have signed something, we need to | 0:56:46 | 0:56:54 | |
stick to that. What needs to happen
to get talks started again? Theresa | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
May needs to get her cabinet in
order. Michel Barnier doesn't care | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
about what happens in the Cabinet.
Well it does. It makes no | 0:57:01 | 0:57:08 | |
difference. We have a worrying
situation where our EU negotiating | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
partners are concerned Theresa May
may not be in there in eight weeks' | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
time. Her confidence has been
drained and authority shattered. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
Does not look good for her. We have
a cabinet within a cabinet with | 0:57:19 | 0:57:23 | |
Michael Gove and Boris Johnson
trying to do this Orwellian grip of | 0:57:23 | 0:57:29 | |
people not internalising the logical
Brexit. We have two resignations. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:36 | |
Another two cabinet ministers whose
position hangs in the balance. She | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
is weak. She needs to get on with
David Davis and get down to the | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
financials you have been talking
about. Exit day is the 29th of | 0:57:42 | 0:57:47 | |
March, not the 19th of March...
Whatever. Should Mrs May ask for | 0:57:47 | 0:57:55 | |
Article 50 to be extended, should
she ask for more time? She needs | 0:57:55 | 0:58:00 | |
more time. Would it be a good idea?
I think so. Brexiteers and people | 0:58:00 | 0:58:07 | |
who voted for Brexit think that when
you suggest it might be a good idea | 0:58:07 | 0:58:11 | |
to extend the time, the timeline,
then what you are actually trying to | 0:58:11 | 0:58:15 | |
do is put off leaving. What I'm
trying to do is to safeguard the | 0:58:15 | 0:58:20 | |
jobs and incomes of people in my
constituency. I visited a bedding | 0:58:20 | 0:58:25 | |
manufacturer in my constituency on
Friday whose prices have gone up 30% | 0:58:25 | 0:58:29 | |
since the referendum. They are
finding it impossible to hire | 0:58:29 | 0:58:31 | |
people. That's one business in one
constituency. That is to do with | 0:58:31 | 0:58:39 | |
employment... That's because after
the referendum, four of their | 0:58:39 | 0:58:43 | |
employees shut up shop and went back
to Poland. They didn't have to do | 0:58:43 | 0:58:46 | |
that. Nobody told them that. This is
the culture that has been created in | 0:58:46 | 0:58:52 | |
the post-referendum climate. People
think the pound has gone down 25%, I | 0:58:52 | 0:58:56 | |
can earn more money in Ireland...
The post-referendum climate for some | 0:58:56 | 0:59:01 | |
people is that they suspect Brexit
is going to be betrayed and you are | 0:59:01 | 0:59:05 | |
the kind of person who wants to do
that. I want to see a good deal for | 0:59:05 | 0:59:10 | |
British jobs, British manufacturers,
and the British economy. Weren't you | 0:59:10 | 0:59:15 | |
arguing we should join the euro?
Exactly the same... I don't want to | 0:59:15 | 0:59:22 | |
go back into history... Want to make
sure that chemical businesses, our | 0:59:22 | 0:59:25 | |
second largest export in this
country, are able to trade on the | 0:59:25 | 0:59:29 | |
29th of March. Your government is
unable to tell the chemicals | 0:59:29 | 0:59:32 | |
industry, our second largest
manufacturer... Because it is | 0:59:32 | 0:59:38 | |
negotiations... You would surrender
everything... It's not about | 0:59:38 | 0:59:43 | |
surrendering, it isn't a war, it is
a negotiation... And a negotiation | 0:59:43 | 0:59:48 | |
does not mean agreeing to everything
you want... What about the chemicals | 0:59:48 | 0:59:53 | |
industry... They are in business,
the chemicals industry is... One in | 0:59:53 | 0:59:58 | |
five businesses has already made
moves to move abroad. Rather than | 0:59:58 | 1:00:02 | |
getting on some sort of
nationalistic... Hang on a minute... | 1:00:02 | 1:00:07 | |
It's to do with pragmatism... You
have both major points. Are you one | 1:00:07 | 1:00:12 | |
of the 40 Conservative MPs
considering signing this? I don't | 1:00:12 | 1:00:16 | |
even think there are 40. How many do
you think there are? I was a | 1:00:16 | 1:00:22 | |
government whip. Even in the days of
David Cameron there were usually 12, | 1:00:22 | 1:00:26 | |
15, almost a given. What would you
say to your colleagues who are | 1:00:26 | 1:00:30 | |
thinking of signing this
no-confidence letter? I would say, | 1:00:30 | 1:00:35 | |
let's have some stability. Jeremy
Corbyn survived when his entire | 1:00:35 | 1:00:37 | |
cabinet more or less to resign. We
can all agree that we want a good | 1:00:37 | 1:00:45 | |
deal for the United Kingdom out of
Brexit. OK, thank you. | 1:00:45 | 1:00:54 | |
We will bring you the latest news
and sport in a minute, but first, | 1:00:54 | 1:00:58 | |
the weather. | 1:00:58 | 1:00:59 | |
A Chilean frosty start this morning,
the third chilly Monday in a row. | 1:01:03 | 1:01:09 | |
There was brightness in the south
this morning, which meant it was | 1:01:09 | 1:01:12 | |
possible to see Venus and Jupiter
first thing. -- HAV and frosty | 1:01:12 | 1:01:16 | |
start. -- a chilly and frosty start.
Some of this rain coming into the | 1:01:16 | 1:01:30 | |
high North West of Scotland could
fall as snow at higher ground. | 1:01:30 | 1:01:37 | |
Largely dry and bright with sunshine
in the south, turning increasingly | 1:01:37 | 1:01:41 | |
hazy due to high level cloud. At
3pm, outbreaks of rain pushing in | 1:01:41 | 1:01:47 | |
from the north-west. The wind will
have up as well, Misty and murky | 1:01:47 | 1:01:52 | |
conditions and cool temperatures.
Outbreaks of rain for Northern | 1:01:52 | 1:01:56 | |
Ireland as well. A bit patchy rain
pushing into the far north of | 1:01:56 | 1:02:00 | |
England, but elsewhere, largely dry
and bright. A little high level | 1:02:00 | 1:02:06 | |
cloud will turn the sunshine hazy.
It doesn't feel quite as cool as | 1:02:06 | 1:02:14 | |
yesterday. The rain starts to work
its way south and east overnight, | 1:02:14 | 1:02:19 | |
pushing its way into central
England. Either side of it, we will | 1:02:19 | 1:02:24 | |
see clearer skies, allowing the
temperatures to fall away slightly. | 1:02:24 | 1:02:29 | |
It is this weather front slowly
sinking its way south that will | 1:02:29 | 1:02:33 | |
bring with it some milder air. Not
as chilly a night as we saw last | 1:02:33 | 1:02:41 | |
night. Tomorrow won't be quite as
Chile either. We are drawing in | 1:02:41 | 1:02:45 | |
milder air from the south-west.
Tomorrow starts bright in Scotland | 1:02:45 | 1:02:48 | |
with sunny spells and showers. One
or two back showers, largely in the | 1:02:48 | 1:02:54 | |
north, turning more frequent in the
afternoon. A cloudy day for Northern | 1:02:54 | 1:02:59 | |
Ireland, England and Wales, with
outbreaks of rain and drizzle. | 1:02:59 | 1:03:03 | |
Temperatures will be milder, in
double figures. A bright start in | 1:03:03 | 1:03:07 | |
Scotland on Wednesday, but more
clout than outbreaks of rain. | 1:03:07 | 1:03:13 | |
Temperatures in double figures in
the South. On Thursday, a cold front | 1:03:13 | 1:03:21 | |
sinks South East, bringing outbreaks
of rain to the north-west for a | 1:03:21 | 1:03:24 | |
time. It will alter in -- also bring
in cooler air. Feeling cool again by | 1:03:24 | 1:03:31 | |
Friday. | 1:03:31 | 1:03:35 | |
Hello it's Monday, it's 10 o'clock,
I'm Victoria Derbyshire. | 1:03:35 | 1:03:41 | |
The husband of a British woman
being held in Iran has told this | 1:03:41 | 1:03:44 | |
programme she's close to a mental
breakdown and is having | 1:03:44 | 1:03:46 | |
tests for breast cancer. | 1:03:46 | 1:03:47 | |
Nazanin Zaghari-Radcliffe
was arrested last year accused | 1:03:47 | 1:03:49 | |
of trying to overthrow the regime. | 1:03:49 | 1:03:56 | |
Her husband told us how the
implication of comments made by | 1:03:56 | 1:04:00 | |
environment Secretary Michael Gove
could affect the case. It is not | 1:04:00 | 1:04:04 | |
likely that the comments will appear
in Iranians media, but if they go to | 1:04:04 | 1:04:09 | |
trial, they collect this evidence
and it gets piled up. The most | 1:04:09 | 1:04:13 | |
important person is the Foreign
Secretary, who is the voice and | 1:04:13 | 1:04:16 | |
presence of the UK. It is important
that he battles for Nazanin. In the | 1:04:16 | 1:04:21 | |
next half an hour, we will talk to a
former Iranians diplomat who was a | 1:04:21 | 1:04:25 | |
minister in the country's Foreign
Ministry, and a former British | 1:04:25 | 1:04:28 | |
ambassador to Iran. | 1:04:28 | 1:04:39 | |
Also - in Britain, they're
the silent minority - | 1:04:39 | 1:04:41 | |
Chinese people rarely feature
in the national conversation; | 1:04:41 | 1:04:43 | |
but we've learned that their silence
in sharing health problems | 1:04:43 | 1:04:45 | |
with their families and accessing
health services can be | 1:04:45 | 1:04:47 | |
a matter of life and death. | 1:04:47 | 1:04:49 | |
TRANSLATION: The Chinese community
can have stigma around cancer, and | 1:04:49 | 1:04:51 | |
some may not even tell their
families. | 1:04:51 | 1:04:52 | |
We'll speak to a woman
who lost her mum to cervical cancer, | 1:04:52 | 1:04:55 | |
and a Chinese community support
worker about attitudes to illness. | 1:04:55 | 1:05:04 | |
At least 300 people are killed and
thousands more are injured in an | 1:05:04 | 1:05:11 | |
earthquake on the border between
Iran and Iraq. Good morning. | 1:05:11 | 1:05:18 | |
Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom
with a summary of today's news. | 1:05:18 | 1:05:22 | |
Business leaders from across Europe
will be in Downing Street today | 1:05:22 | 1:05:25 | |
to voice their concerns
about trade after Brexit. | 1:05:25 | 1:05:27 | |
The CBI and the Institute
of Directors will be represented - | 1:05:27 | 1:05:30 | |
as will business organisations
from Germany, France, | 1:05:30 | 1:05:32 | |
Spain and seven other countries. | 1:05:32 | 1:05:36 | |
They will press the government
to clarify the future relationship | 1:05:36 | 1:05:39 | |
between the UK and the rest
of the EU - and demand they maintain | 1:05:39 | 1:05:42 | |
current arrangements. | 1:05:42 | 1:05:44 | |
A powerful earthquake has killed
more than three hundred | 1:05:44 | 1:05:47 | |
people in western Iran. | 1:05:47 | 1:05:48 | |
Thousands more have been injured. | 1:05:48 | 1:05:58 | |
The epicentre of the quake
which measured 7.3 | 1:06:01 | 1:06:03 | |
was across the border in Iraq. | 1:06:03 | 1:06:05 | |
Electricity has been cut in a number
of towns and villages, | 1:06:05 | 1:06:07 | |
and blocked roads are said to be
preventing some rescue teams | 1:06:07 | 1:06:10 | |
from reaching areas affected. | 1:06:10 | 1:06:11 | |
The family of Nazanin
Zaghari-Ratcliffe, | 1:06:11 | 1:06:12 | |
the British-Iranian woman jailed
in Tehran, say they're increasingly | 1:06:12 | 1:06:14 | |
concerned about her wellbeing. | 1:06:14 | 1:06:19 | |
In a statement last night her
husband Richard said his wife | 1:06:19 | 1:06:22 | |
appeared to be "on the verge
of a nervous breakdown" | 1:06:22 | 1:06:24 | |
and is seeking treatment
after finding lumps in her breasts. | 1:06:24 | 1:06:27 | |
The Foreign Secretary,
Boris Johnson, and his cabinet | 1:06:27 | 1:06:29 | |
colleague Michael Gove have both
been criticised for their | 1:06:29 | 1:06:31 | |
comments about the case. | 1:06:31 | 1:06:32 | |
The key thing to understand is that
we're working very very hard and | 1:06:32 | 1:06:35 | |
intensively and impartially
on all those cases. | 1:06:35 | 1:06:37 | |
Thank you very much. | 1:06:37 | 1:06:38 | |
Thank you. | 1:06:38 | 1:06:39 | |
See you later. | 1:06:39 | 1:06:40 | |
Thank you. | 1:06:40 | 1:06:41 | |
Bob Geldof says he is handing back
his Freedom of the City of Dublin - | 1:06:41 | 1:06:45 | |
because the same honour has been
granted to the Burmese political | 1:06:45 | 1:06:47 | |
leader Aung San Suu Kyi. | 1:06:47 | 1:06:48 | |
He's described the treatment
by Myanmar's military | 1:06:48 | 1:06:51 | |
of the Rohingya Muslim
minority community as "mass | 1:06:51 | 1:06:53 | |
ethnic cleansing." | 1:06:53 | 1:06:56 | |
The Live Aid organiser said his home
city had honoured Aung San Suu Kyi - | 1:06:56 | 1:07:00 | |
but now she had appalled and shamed
Dublin. | 1:07:00 | 1:07:05 | |
Hundreds of people have marched
in Hollywood in support of victims | 1:07:05 | 1:07:09 | |
of sexual assault and harassment,
inspired by the 'MeToo' | 1:07:09 | 1:07:11 | |
social media campaign. | 1:07:11 | 1:07:14 | |
The march follows a series
of assault and harassment | 1:07:14 | 1:07:16 | |
allegations against public figures,
set off by revelations about | 1:07:16 | 1:07:19 | |
the movie mogul Harvey Weinstein. | 1:07:19 | 1:07:23 | |
The marchers started
on Hollywood Boulevard and walked | 1:07:23 | 1:07:25 | |
along the "Walk of Fame"
to CNN's headquarters. | 1:07:25 | 1:07:28 | |
The Church of England
is telling its schools that | 1:07:28 | 1:07:30 | |
children should be free
to explore their identity and both | 1:07:30 | 1:07:32 | |
boys and girls should be
allowed to wear a tutu, | 1:07:32 | 1:07:35 | |
tiara or superhero cloak
without judgement from | 1:07:35 | 1:07:36 | |
teachers or other pupils. | 1:07:36 | 1:07:40 | |
The new guidelines aim to prevent
children being bullied | 1:07:40 | 1:07:43 | |
because of their sexual orientation
or gender identity. | 1:07:43 | 1:07:51 | |
The report says school should ensure
they have an inclusive view for | 1:07:51 | 1:08:01 | |
education and make sure that all
children are respected. | 1:08:01 | 1:08:04 | |
Jupiter and Venus -
the two brightest planets - | 1:08:04 | 1:08:06 | |
have been appearing very close
together in the morning sky. | 1:08:06 | 1:08:08 | |
Both have been visible
to the naked eye across the UK. | 1:08:08 | 1:08:11 | |
The best viewing time was 40
minutes before sunrise. | 1:08:11 | 1:08:13 | |
While the planets are visible
to the naked eye, viewers | 1:08:13 | 1:08:15 | |
with a telescope have also been able
to see Jupiter's | 1:08:15 | 1:08:18 | |
four Galilean moons. | 1:08:18 | 1:08:19 | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC
News - more at 10.30. | 1:08:19 | 1:08:26 | |
Thanks for your messages about
stress and how you manage it. We | 1:08:26 | 1:08:29 | |
will talk about it more at 1030 AM.
Research out today suggest that four | 1:08:29 | 1:08:34 | |
out of five of us get stressed every
week. As it is Monday morning, a | 1:08:34 | 1:08:40 | |
number of you are already stressed.
Not necessarily the fault of our | 1:08:40 | 1:08:43 | |
programme, but anyway! Let me know
how you de-stress, and we will talk | 1:08:43 | 1:08:49 | |
about it after 10:30am. | 1:08:49 | 1:08:57 | |
Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE
and If you text, you will be charged | 1:08:57 | 1:09:00 | |
at the standard network rate. | 1:09:00 | 1:09:02 | |
Rebecca says, my experience of
stress is dealing with it with | 1:09:02 | 1:09:07 | |
clients. When we let go of the
emotions, we can let go of the | 1:09:07 | 1:09:12 | |
event, and it becomes wisdom. Do get
in touch. | 1:09:12 | 1:09:19 | |
Here's some sport
now with Katherine. | 1:09:19 | 1:09:25 | |
Northern Ireland boss Michael
O'Neill has described his side's | 1:09:25 | 1:09:28 | |
efforts as amazing, and he said the
players were emotional and upset | 1:09:28 | 1:09:31 | |
after their draw in Basel. A
controversial penalty in the first | 1:09:31 | 1:09:37 | |
leg gave Switzerland the advantage.
Northern Ireland got close last | 1:09:37 | 1:09:40 | |
night, but they won't be going to
next summer's World Cup in Russia. | 1:09:40 | 1:09:45 | |
It would be too strong a word to say
cheated, but you do feel that | 1:09:45 | 1:09:49 | |
there's a certain injustice to going
out of the tournament in this way. A | 1:09:49 | 1:09:54 | |
lot of people said Switzerland were
far superior to us in the first leg, | 1:09:54 | 1:09:58 | |
but they only scored from the
penalty, not else. -- not anything | 1:09:58 | 1:10:06 | |
else. We could have been playing
extra time now, so there is an | 1:10:06 | 1:10:11 | |
injustice there, a huge injustice,
given the nature of what has divided | 1:10:11 | 1:10:14 | |
the teams. Ten days to go until the
battle for the Ashes begins. England | 1:10:14 | 1:10:23 | |
are preparing for the first test by
meeting some of the local wildlife. | 1:10:23 | 1:10:28 | |
Andy Swiss is following the tour.
Member to the North Queensland | 1:10:28 | 1:10:33 | |
close. Just ten days to go until the
first Ashes test in Brisbane, and | 1:10:33 | 1:10:38 | |
England have arrived hoping to fine
tune with the final warm up game on | 1:10:38 | 1:10:43 | |
Wednesday. Matches like this are a
chance for players to explore a bit | 1:10:43 | 1:10:48 | |
of the area. This morning, Moeen Ali
and Alastair Cook visited a local | 1:10:48 | 1:10:54 | |
wildlife sanctuary, where among
other things, they got to feed a | 1:10:54 | 1:10:57 | |
crocodile named Bully. The headline
writers might have fun with that. | 1:10:57 | 1:11:02 | |
Moeen Ali hasn't played in either of
England's tour matches because of a | 1:11:02 | 1:11:08 | |
side strain, but the good news is
that he says he is now fit and ready | 1:11:08 | 1:11:12 | |
for whatever Australia have to throw
at him. It is part of the game. It's | 1:11:12 | 1:11:17 | |
not something I haven't had before.
These things happen. Australians | 1:11:17 | 1:11:23 | |
like to talk a lot and bigger
themselves up -- and big. I have | 1:11:23 | 1:11:37 | |
always had trust in my ability and
hopefully I will back that even more | 1:11:37 | 1:11:40 | |
in this series and do well for
England. Moeen Ali, set to play in a | 1:11:40 | 1:11:46 | |
four-day match against a Cricket
Australia 11 starting on Wednesday. | 1:11:46 | 1:11:50 | |
England have plenty of questions to
answer, particularly over their | 1:11:50 | 1:11:54 | |
batting. No one has scored a century
so far on this tour, and there were | 1:11:54 | 1:12:00 | |
two pretty horrible collapses in
their last game in Adelaide. England | 1:12:00 | 1:12:05 | |
will hope to get a few runs and
wickets under their belt before the | 1:12:05 | 1:12:08 | |
first Ashes test in Brisbane on the
23rd of November. | 1:12:08 | 1:12:14 | |
Great Britain have won a third gold
medal at the track cycling World Cup | 1:12:14 | 1:12:19 | |
in Manchester. They won the team
pursuit, beating Italy by a huge | 1:12:19 | 1:12:27 | |
margin in the final. Two of the
riders also won the Madison. Back to | 1:12:27 | 1:12:35 | |
you, Victoria. | 1:12:35 | 1:12:36 | |
This morning we've brought
you an insight into a community | 1:12:36 | 1:12:38 | |
in Britain that is practically
invisible. | 1:12:38 | 1:12:40 | |
And that is a real issue when it
comes to their health. | 1:12:40 | 1:12:43 | |
This programme has learned that some
in the Chinese community are hiding | 1:12:43 | 1:12:46 | |
or ignoring illnesses
because of their culture - sometimes | 1:12:46 | 1:12:49 | |
putting their lives at risk. | 1:12:49 | 1:12:53 | |
We've heard how women are encouraged
to 'confine' themselves | 1:12:53 | 1:12:55 | |
in their homes for a whole month
after having a baby. | 1:12:55 | 1:12:59 | |
Some mums don't wash their hair
or shower and are discouraged | 1:12:59 | 1:13:03 | |
from crying, or having any visitors,
including health professionals. | 1:13:03 | 1:13:07 | |
With such little awareness
about the tradition, | 1:13:07 | 1:13:10 | |
there's a concern problems in mum
and baby might be being missed. | 1:13:10 | 1:13:13 | |
Our reporter Amber Haque brought
you the full story an hour ago - | 1:13:13 | 1:13:16 | |
here's a short extract. | 1:13:16 | 1:13:24 | |
Sitting month, as in confinement
after childbirth, is a tradition | 1:13:24 | 1:13:28 | |
so ingrained in Chinese culture that
even I did it myself, | 1:13:28 | 1:13:30 | |
some practices. | 1:13:30 | 1:13:31 | |
Some of the very strict rules
are that you shouldn't drink cold | 1:13:31 | 1:13:34 | |
drinks during the month,
you shouldn't really shower, | 1:13:34 | 1:13:36 | |
hair washing is not allowed,
and obviously not going outside | 1:13:36 | 1:13:38 | |
the boundaries of your house. | 1:13:38 | 1:13:48 | |
So, for obvious reasons,
we're not allowed to film | 1:13:51 | 1:13:53 | |
with the mum in her house when she's
doing the confinement period, | 1:13:53 | 1:13:56 | |
but I have found one mum who's
willing to talk to me via Skype. | 1:13:56 | 1:13:59 | |
Her name's Ching, and she actually
hasn't left the house | 1:13:59 | 1:14:01 | |
for nearly 28 days. | 1:14:01 | 1:14:02 | |
Hi, Ching. | 1:14:02 | 1:14:04 | |
Hi there. | 1:14:04 | 1:14:04 | |
I come originally from Singapore
and it's part of our culture | 1:14:04 | 1:14:07 | |
to definitely do confinement,
so it was more about making sure | 1:14:07 | 1:14:11 | |
I can import that over to the UK
since I'm doing it here. | 1:14:11 | 1:14:15 | |
Being confined in your flat actually
is important because, for us, | 1:14:15 | 1:14:17 | |
if you don't practice it,
then you are just disadvantaging | 1:14:17 | 1:14:20 | |
yourself, kind of thing. | 1:14:20 | 1:14:21 | |
My husband didn't really know
what was going when I said, "Oh, | 1:14:21 | 1:14:24 | |
I need to practice confinement." | 1:14:24 | 1:14:25 | |
And his family as well. | 1:14:25 | 1:14:26 | |
So it is quite obvious that there's
a lack of understanding or even | 1:14:26 | 1:14:29 | |
awareness that it even exists. | 1:14:29 | 1:14:31 | |
But I can see why
it can be isolating. | 1:14:31 | 1:14:33 | |
New mums can often be left
in isolation, and that's quite | 1:14:33 | 1:14:35 | |
difficult for them to cope. | 1:14:35 | 1:14:37 | |
When they have medical problems,
they try to solve it | 1:14:37 | 1:14:39 | |
within themselves, and sometimes
that can have detrimental effects | 1:14:39 | 1:14:41 | |
to the health of themselves
and to the baby. | 1:14:41 | 1:14:51 | |
Into adulthood, some Chinese
people aren't seeking help | 1:14:58 | 1:15:00 | |
because they feel they should
endure problems themselves. | 1:15:00 | 1:15:02 | |
They are one of the most dispersed
communities in Britain, | 1:15:02 | 1:15:04 | |
and when language is a barrier it
makes the isolation even harder. | 1:15:04 | 1:15:10 | |
Elly Lee's worked in the catering
trade in rural Worcestershire | 1:15:10 | 1:15:12 | |
since moving from Hong Kong
with a son and daughter in the 90s. | 1:15:12 | 1:15:15 | |
She's got stage four cancer,
meaning it's advanced, | 1:15:15 | 1:15:17 | |
and it's spread round her body. | 1:15:17 | 1:15:18 | |
The Chinese community can have
stigma around cancer, | 1:15:23 | 1:15:25 | |
and some may not even
tell their families. | 1:15:25 | 1:15:29 | |
TRANSLATION: The majority
of the Chinese community here work | 1:15:29 | 1:15:31 | |
predominantly in the catering trade. | 1:15:31 | 1:15:32 | |
They work long hours
where work takes number one, | 1:15:32 | 1:15:34 | |
and health takes a back-seat. | 1:15:34 | 1:15:36 | |
I'm speaking out to help Chinese
people have an awareness of health. | 1:15:36 | 1:15:46 | |
There's a clear lack
of representation of | 1:15:48 | 1:15:50 | |
the British Chinese in the media,
politics and the arts. | 1:15:50 | 1:15:52 | |
But for some in the community,
that silence can deafening. | 1:15:52 | 1:16:02 | |
We're often grouped in a box along
with other ethnicities | 1:16:05 | 1:16:08 | |
on statistical data collection
forms, and that means our specific | 1:16:08 | 1:16:10 | |
needs are not being looked into,
and the fact that we had to set up | 1:16:10 | 1:16:14 | |
an online medical advisory
service off our own back | 1:16:14 | 1:16:16 | |
is a reflection of that. | 1:16:16 | 1:16:17 | |
Just because we are silent
and polite, doesn't mean | 1:16:17 | 1:16:19 | |
we should be ignored. | 1:16:19 | 1:16:20 | |
Let's talk now to Georgine Leung -
she's a mum who did postnatal | 1:16:20 | 1:16:23 | |
confinement and is researching
the tradition for | 1:16:23 | 1:16:25 | |
University College London. | 1:16:25 | 1:16:26 | |
Eddie Chan is a Chinese community
support worker and says many | 1:16:26 | 1:16:29 | |
in the community think illness
is retribution for something they've | 1:16:29 | 1:16:31 | |
done wrong in the past. | 1:16:31 | 1:16:32 | |
Lucinda - that's not her real name,
lost her mum to cervical cancer | 1:16:32 | 1:16:35 | |
when Lucinda was 18. | 1:16:35 | 1:16:38 | |
Her mum didn't get help
until the disease was advanced | 1:16:38 | 1:16:41 | |
and in fact was diagnosed
in A&E after collapsing. | 1:16:41 | 1:16:44 | |
We're protecting Lucinda's identity
as she think her family in Hong Kong | 1:16:44 | 1:16:47 | |
would disown her for speaking out. | 1:16:47 | 1:16:57 | |
Why do you think your family might
shun new if you they thought you | 1:16:58 | 1:17:01 | |
were speaking out like this?
Probably because we don't really | 1:17:01 | 1:17:06 | |
talk about our feelings. We are
quite private people. You know, you | 1:17:06 | 1:17:11 | |
just wouldn't. Is there some kind of
shame involved if you do speak out? | 1:17:11 | 1:17:27 | |
You can. You have a problem, you
don't feel proud any more. You were | 1:17:27 | 1:17:33 | |
18 when your mum find out Peshmerga
found out she had cancer and she | 1:17:33 | 1:17:37 | |
wouldn't go to the doctor. -- when
your mum found out she had cancer. | 1:17:37 | 1:17:46 | |
She always went for a cervical smear
test. I remember I was 12 and | 1:17:46 | 1:17:53 | |
stopped a letter came back saying
that the test came back abnormal. -- | 1:17:53 | 1:17:57 | |
I was 12. She never went back to get
it treated. Three years later | 1:17:57 | 1:18:05 | |
another letter came to the door
urging her to get it treated. I also | 1:18:05 | 1:18:09 | |
urged her to go to the doctors. She
abruptly told me she was fine. I was | 1:18:09 | 1:18:19 | |
18. Three years later I went to
university and then my mum was | 1:18:19 | 1:18:24 | |
getting really short of breath. I
actually thought she had high blood | 1:18:24 | 1:18:30 | |
pressure. I knew she didn't want to
go to the doctors. I kept begging | 1:18:30 | 1:18:33 | |
her to go. She wouldn't. When I was
at uni I went to the Chinese doctor. | 1:18:33 | 1:18:40 | |
I told him that I thought my mum had
high blood pressure, she won't go to | 1:18:40 | 1:18:45 | |
the Doctor, can you provide
something to treat it. She did. I | 1:18:45 | 1:18:49 | |
gave it to my mum. She accepted it.
She thanked me for it. But little | 1:18:49 | 1:18:54 | |
did I know she didn't have high
blood pressure, but in fact quite | 1:18:54 | 1:18:58 | |
the opposite. She had lost that much
blood because the disease had spread | 1:18:58 | 1:19:02 | |
so far into her body that she was
getting out of breath when moving | 1:19:02 | 1:19:07 | |
about. How much pain do you think
she was in if she still wasn't | 1:19:07 | 1:19:11 | |
willing to seek help? A lot. But he
just got on with it. We all do. | 1:19:11 | 1:19:18 | |
That's part of your tradition, that
you endure, you put up with things? | 1:19:18 | 1:19:26 | |
I'm quite emotional because I'm
British-born Chinese. My friends | 1:19:26 | 1:19:30 | |
would say I'm quite emotional. But
over big things like this, you know, | 1:19:30 | 1:19:36 | |
we just keep it ourselves, don't
speak about feelings and fears | 1:19:36 | 1:19:41 | |
because you want to be proud. You
have a personal experience of the | 1:19:41 | 1:19:49 | |
stigma around cancer, Eddie, and not
speaking out, and not informing | 1:19:49 | 1:19:53 | |
family and friends, tell our
audience about your son. This | 1:19:53 | 1:19:57 | |
happened 20 years ago now. When my
second son was five. He was | 1:19:57 | 1:20:03 | |
diagnosed with childhood cancerous
brain tumour. In those days my own | 1:20:03 | 1:20:13 | |
parents, 50% of the time in the UK,
50% of the time in Hong Kong, they | 1:20:13 | 1:20:20 | |
were in Hong Kong when he was
diagnosed with cancer. We told our | 1:20:20 | 1:20:26 | |
parents, my parents, and they didn't
react to it. In fact, they didn't | 1:20:26 | 1:20:32 | |
say anything. They didn't even call
me or send me a letter asking me | 1:20:32 | 1:20:38 | |
what happened to their grandchild.
Why didn't they want to know, why | 1:20:38 | 1:20:47 | |
didn't they want to react? I think
it is a lot to do with the Chinese | 1:20:47 | 1:20:52 | |
traditional thinking of retribution,
stigma, you must have done something | 1:20:52 | 1:20:55 | |
wrong, that's why this has happened.
It is calmer related to the family. | 1:20:55 | 1:21:04 | |
With loss of people, they think the
family has done something wrong. It | 1:21:04 | 1:21:12 | |
could be due to the grandparents,
the parents, they could have done | 1:21:12 | 1:21:17 | |
something wrong, they believe that
would be reflected to the | 1:21:17 | 1:21:21 | |
generations further down the line.
What do you think of that? | 1:21:21 | 1:21:25 | |
Obviously, for myself, I'm a bit
more up-to-date, modern, I think it | 1:21:25 | 1:21:33 | |
is pure luck. Whether you are a good
person, bad person, you can still | 1:21:33 | 1:21:38 | |
get terminal illnesses. I know even
healthy people, really, really | 1:21:38 | 1:21:44 | |
healthy people, can die of coronary
heart disease or heart attack. | 1:21:44 | 1:21:48 | |
People are always encouraged in my
line of work to live a healthy | 1:21:48 | 1:21:58 | |
lifestyle. Of course. The issue from
all of this, Georgie, is about | 1:21:58 | 1:22:05 | |
seeking medical help if you don't
have to put up with the pain. If you | 1:22:05 | 1:22:08 | |
don't have to put up with the
suffering. I want to talk to you | 1:22:08 | 1:22:13 | |
specifically about confinement, this
month that new mothers stay in their | 1:22:13 | 1:22:16 | |
house after giving birth. You are
researching this. I believe there is | 1:22:16 | 1:22:23 | |
a link that if you do confinement in
the wrong way then there will be | 1:22:23 | 1:22:27 | |
repercussions later on in life.
That's right. Not just by doing it, | 1:22:27 | 1:22:33 | |
but there is a certain way of doing
it. By not doing it well there will | 1:22:33 | 1:22:39 | |
be repercussions in later life and
that's why it is so important to do | 1:22:39 | 1:22:42 | |
it well during the month of
confinement. But it's rubbish, isn't | 1:22:42 | 1:22:47 | |
it western green it's hard to say
whether or not any problems in later | 1:22:47 | 1:22:52 | |
life would be directly related to
the practice and confinement. -- but | 1:22:52 | 1:22:57 | |
it's rubbish, isn't it? It isn't
difficult to say. There is no link. | 1:22:57 | 1:23:02 | |
In a parallel universe? Eddie, you
are smiling. I am smiling because I | 1:23:02 | 1:23:08 | |
know it's true. I know that a lot of
Chinese after giving birth they | 1:23:08 | 1:23:14 | |
could easily take their one-week-old
baby to the shops, the supermarket, | 1:23:14 | 1:23:20 | |
and I don't know why it is such a
tradition. Is it offensive if I say | 1:23:20 | 1:23:25 | |
that? If I say it's rubbish, that
there is no link between the way you | 1:23:25 | 1:23:29 | |
do confinement, confinement at all,
something later in life, would that | 1:23:29 | 1:23:33 | |
be fair? It goes back to the set of
traditional beliefs that mothers | 1:23:33 | 1:23:38 | |
would do all sorts of different
things to make sure they recover | 1:23:38 | 1:23:41 | |
very well. To avoid going into a
state of poor health in the future. | 1:23:41 | 1:23:47 | |
Of course we would never be able to
say in 30, 40 years' time if that | 1:23:47 | 1:23:52 | |
illness is to do with confinement.
There wouldn't be any evidence. But | 1:23:52 | 1:23:57 | |
the attention, the awareness, being
focused on the mother's health | 1:23:57 | 1:24:03 | |
during a period of vulnerability,
it's quite important because often | 1:24:03 | 1:24:06 | |
after childbirth the attention goes
on the baby. And very often we | 1:24:06 | 1:24:09 | |
forget about the mother's health.
Many people are agreeing, they say | 1:24:09 | 1:24:15 | |
that might be a really good time to
basically stay in and bond with the | 1:24:15 | 1:24:19 | |
baby. But tell me how not washing
your hair has an impact. That's one | 1:24:19 | 1:24:23 | |
of the police. How is that relevant?
After a woman has given birth her | 1:24:23 | 1:24:30 | |
body is seen to be of a cold state.
All of her joints are open. That's | 1:24:30 | 1:24:35 | |
the belief that a cold wind might
easily go into her body. So by not | 1:24:35 | 1:24:41 | |
doing anything which exacerbates the
coldness goes into the body can help | 1:24:41 | 1:24:45 | |
to protect her. But we live in
Britain. We have central heating. | 1:24:45 | 1:24:51 | |
Gas fires. And stuff. I think that's
the issue between how do you balance | 1:24:51 | 1:25:00 | |
traditional beliefs and modern
health practices. From the women | 1:25:00 | 1:25:03 | |
I've interviewed in the past, they
seem to actually do a bit of both. | 1:25:03 | 1:25:09 | |
They don't necessarily do all of the
restrictions, but they actually | 1:25:09 | 1:25:11 | |
adapt to some of the more modern
health practices. And they would | 1:25:11 | 1:25:18 | |
adapt to their own confinement. In
China some mums don't get out of bed | 1:25:18 | 1:25:25 | |
for two weeks. They eat a diet rich
in calories to get, for what | 1:25:25 | 1:25:32 | |
purpose? Food is important during
the month of confinement. That ties | 1:25:32 | 1:25:37 | |
into the traditional belief that
food is healing and warming foods | 1:25:37 | 1:25:40 | |
are particularly important. Women
are expected to follow a set of | 1:25:40 | 1:25:46 | |
rules. Particularly eating certain
foods, and not eating certain other | 1:25:46 | 1:25:50 | |
foods. For women who are eating
particularly nourishing foods, foods | 1:25:50 | 1:25:55 | |
which are calorie dense, sometimes
having, say, a rice dish at every | 1:25:55 | 1:26:00 | |
meal, three to four times a day, for
example, can be much more than their | 1:26:00 | 1:26:04 | |
typical diet would allow. Which is
quite a difference, for example, to | 1:26:04 | 1:26:12 | |
sometimes the pressure that Western
women feel when they've given birth | 1:26:12 | 1:26:15 | |
to get back to being thin, lose the
baby weight, and all of the rest of | 1:26:15 | 1:26:18 | |
it. Definitely. There does not seem
to be a pressure for them to lose | 1:26:18 | 1:26:23 | |
weight very quickly. The attention
would be for her to recover her body | 1:26:23 | 1:26:28 | |
to get back to normal. And after the
period of 30 days, or up to six | 1:26:28 | 1:26:33 | |
weeks, she can start thinking about
going out and exercising and losing | 1:26:33 | 1:26:37 | |
weight, but that isn't her priority
immediately after birth. OK. A final | 1:26:37 | 1:26:43 | |
thought, from all of you, what would
you say to any members of the | 1:26:43 | 1:26:47 | |
Chinese community watching now who
might be in pain, might think there | 1:26:47 | 1:26:51 | |
is an issue with their health, but
are not going to their GPs, not | 1:26:51 | 1:26:55 | |
seeking help, because of the
traditional beliefs of putting up | 1:26:55 | 1:26:59 | |
with it, enduring, and maintaining
their privacy and dignity? I would | 1:26:59 | 1:27:05 | |
say make an appointment to see your
GP. It's so important to seek help | 1:27:05 | 1:27:12 | |
when you are in pain and you don't
feel comfortable. And you know | 1:27:12 | 1:27:15 | |
something is not quite right with
you. And there is no shame in | 1:27:15 | 1:27:18 | |
seeking help, is there? No. What
would you say Lucinda? Just echoing | 1:27:18 | 1:27:26 | |
Eddie's thoughts, really, go to the
doctors, make that appointment if | 1:27:26 | 1:27:30 | |
you think something isn't right.
Seek medical help. And also listen | 1:27:30 | 1:27:36 | |
to your family, as well, they are
there to support you. OK, thanks | 1:27:36 | 1:27:40 | |
very much, thanks all of you for
coming on the programme. Still to | 1:27:40 | 1:27:45 | |
come before 11 o'clock. 300 people
have been killed and thousands | 1:27:45 | 1:27:49 | |
injured following that earthquake
which measured 7.3. Our Persian | 1:27:49 | 1:27:54 | |
correspondent will bring us the
latest on what happened on the Iran | 1:27:54 | 1:27:59 | |
Iraq border. One in ten of us is
stressed all the time. Is that you? | 1:27:59 | 1:28:04 | |
We will talk about stress and how
you try to manage it. | 1:28:04 | 1:28:12 | |
Time to the latest news.
This is BBC News, our main stories: | 1:28:13 | 1:28:20 | |
A powerful earthquake has killed
more than 300 people in western | 1:28:20 | 1:28:24 | |
Iran.
Thousands more have been injured. | 1:28:24 | 1:28:27 | |
The epicentre of the quake which
measured 7.3 was across-the-board in | 1:28:27 | 1:28:30 | |
Iraq. Electricity has been cut in a
number of towns and villages and | 1:28:30 | 1:28:35 | |
blocked roads are said to be
preventing some rescue teams from | 1:28:35 | 1:28:37 | |
reaching the affected areas. | 1:28:37 | 1:28:43 | |
The husband of Nazanin
Zaghari-Ratcliffe has said Boris | 1:28:43 | 1:28:48 | |
Johnson is now personally engaged in
the case. Richard Ratcliffe said Mr | 1:28:48 | 1:28:52 | |
Johnson told him he was considering
whether his wife would be eligible | 1:28:52 | 1:28:57 | |
for diplomatic protection. Last week
the Foreign Secretary corrected in | 1:28:57 | 1:29:00 | |
earlier remark suggesting Nazanin
Zaghari-Ratcliffe had been training | 1:29:00 | 1:29:06 | |
journalists when she was arrested
last year. | 1:29:06 | 1:29:09 | |
Business leaders from across Europe
will be in Downing Street today | 1:29:09 | 1:29:11 | |
to voice their concerns
about trade after Brexit. | 1:29:11 | 1:29:15 | |
They are pressing for a transitional
deal between Britain and the EU | 1:29:15 | 1:29:21 | |
which maintains trading
relationships. They also want the | 1:29:21 | 1:29:23 | |
future relationship clarified. | 1:29:23 | 1:29:25 | |
Bob Geldof says he is handing back
his Freedom of the City of Dublin, | 1:29:25 | 1:29:29 | |
because the same honour has been
granted to the Burmese political | 1:29:29 | 1:29:31 | |
leader, Aung San Suu Kyi. | 1:29:31 | 1:29:33 | |
He's described the treatment
by Myanmar's military | 1:29:33 | 1:29:35 | |
of the Rohingya muslim minority
community as "mass | 1:29:35 | 1:29:36 | |
ethnic cleansing." | 1:29:36 | 1:29:37 | |
The Live Aid organiser said his home
city had honoured Aung San Suu Kyi, | 1:29:37 | 1:29:41 | |
but now she had appalled and shamed
Dublin. | 1:29:41 | 1:29:45 | |
Jupiter and Venus, the two brightest
planets, have been appearing very | 1:29:45 | 1:29:47 | |
close together in the morning sky. | 1:29:47 | 1:29:49 | |
Both have been visible
to the naked eye across the UK. | 1:29:49 | 1:29:53 | |
The best viewing time was 40
minutes before sunrise. | 1:29:53 | 1:29:55 | |
While the planets are visible
to the naked eye, viewers | 1:29:55 | 1:29:58 | |
with a telescope have also been able
to see Jupiter's | 1:29:58 | 1:30:00 | |
four Galilean moons. | 1:30:00 | 1:30:07 | |
That's the latest. | 1:30:09 | 1:30:14 | |
We have some messages about stress.
Lydia said I was signed off because | 1:30:14 | 1:30:20 | |
of stress. I was watching TV, an
advert for choir came up, I knew | 1:30:20 | 1:30:24 | |
about the benefits of singing on
your health. I remember being | 1:30:24 | 1:30:28 | |
petrified beforehand but I enjoyed
every minute and I left feeling | 1:30:28 | 1:30:30 | |
fantastic. After 90 minutes of
singing all of my stress has left | 1:30:30 | 1:30:35 | |
me. I've been going for two years,
I've never looked back, it's the | 1:30:35 | 1:30:38 | |
best thing I've ever done.
Lisa says he said he wanted to know | 1:30:38 | 1:30:44 | |
how I manage stress. It's something
I have worked hard to deal with from | 1:30:44 | 1:30:50 | |
work to family issues. On one of
these occasions, all being together, | 1:30:50 | 1:30:56 | |
it was disempowering. I managed
stress by going to the gym, walking | 1:30:56 | 1:31:00 | |
every day, and doing yoga. I
wondered when Yoda would come up. -- | 1:31:00 | 1:31:07 | |
yoga. | 1:31:07 | 1:31:12 | |
Time for the sport.
Northern Ireland will not be going | 1:31:12 | 1:31:19 | |
to the World Cup in Russia after
losing 1-0 to Switzerland. | 1:31:19 | 1:31:25 | |
Gold for Great Britain at the track
cycling World Cup in Manchester. | 1:31:25 | 1:31:33 | |
Lewis Hamilton was the driver of the
day at the Brazilian Grand Prix, | 1:31:33 | 1:31:36 | |
although he did not win the race. He
started last that finished fourth at | 1:31:36 | 1:31:40 | |
Sebastian Vettel took the honours.
Roger Federer started with a | 1:31:40 | 1:31:46 | |
straight sets win over Jack Sock at
the ATP tour finals in London, the | 1:31:46 | 1:31:50 | |
end of season event for the world's
top players. At 36, Roger Federer is | 1:31:50 | 1:31:55 | |
playing in this event for the 15th
time. He has quite a year, hasn't | 1:31:55 | 1:31:59 | |
he? Thank you. | 1:31:59 | 1:32:11 | |
Richard Ratcliffe, the husband of
Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, who is | 1:32:13 | 1:32:18 | |
imprisoned in Iran,... He has said
she's on the verge of a nervous | 1:32:18 | 1:32:24 | |
breakdown and has seen doctors about
lumps identified in her breast. In | 1:32:24 | 1:32:28 | |
April 2016, she was while visiting
Iran to see family and for her | 1:32:28 | 1:32:33 | |
daughter to meet her grandparents.
On the 1st of November this year, | 1:32:33 | 1:32:37 | |
Boris Johnson wrongly said she had
been training journalists while out | 1:32:37 | 1:32:41 | |
in Iran. When you look at what
Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was doing, | 1:32:41 | 1:32:45 | |
it's just, you know, she was simply
teaching people journalism, as I | 1:32:45 | 1:32:50 | |
understand it. Four days later, Mrs
Zaghari-Ratcliffe was recalled to | 1:32:50 | 1:32:53 | |
court in Iran and Mr Johnson's
statement was cited against her, | 1:32:53 | 1:33:00 | |
prompting fears that her five-year
jail term could be extended. By the | 1:33:00 | 1:33:05 | |
7th of November, Boris Johnson was
forced to clarify his remarks the | 1:33:05 | 1:33:08 | |
MPs and said he was sorry if the
remarks caused anxiety. The UK | 1:33:08 | 1:33:15 | |
Government has no doubt that she was
on holiday in Iran when she was | 1:33:15 | 1:33:18 | |
arrested last year, and that was the
sole purpose of her visit. I accept | 1:33:18 | 1:33:24 | |
that my remarks could have been
clearer in that respect, and I'm | 1:33:24 | 1:33:29 | |
glad to provide this clarification.
On Saturday, Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe's | 1:33:29 | 1:33:34 | |
family said she was taken to
hospital for an ultrasound because | 1:33:34 | 1:33:38 | |
she had been campaigning of sharp
stabbing pains in her breasts for | 1:33:38 | 1:33:42 | |
more than a year. Yesterday, Michael
Gove came under fire for saying he | 1:33:42 | 1:33:47 | |
didn't know what Mrs
Zaghari-Ratcliffe was doing in Iran | 1:33:47 | 1:33:50 | |
one she was arrested last year.
Richard Ratcliffe told me he felt | 1:33:50 | 1:33:56 | |
compelled to e-mail the foreign
office after the interview Mr Gove | 1:33:56 | 1:34:02 | |
gave, reminding them of UK public
policy towards the detention of his | 1:34:02 | 1:34:06 | |
wife. Following Michael go's
comments, I thought, -- Michael | 1:34:06 | 1:34:14 | |
Gove's comments, I thought, it needs
to be clarified, so I wrote to our | 1:34:14 | 1:34:18 | |
contact that the foreign office and
said, listen, can you please remind | 1:34:18 | 1:34:21 | |
all cabinet members that UK
Government has no doubt that Nazanin | 1:34:21 | 1:34:25 | |
was there on holiday? That is the UK
policy and it is not my job to | 1:34:25 | 1:34:29 | |
police but these things shouldn't...
Lets be honest, it's unlikely that | 1:34:29 | 1:34:36 | |
Michael Gove's comments will
suddenly be appearing in the | 1:34:36 | 1:34:39 | |
Iranians media, but if it goes to
trial, they collect this evidence | 1:34:39 | 1:34:43 | |
and it gets piled up, and obviously
the most important person at this | 1:34:43 | 1:34:47 | |
point is the Foreign Secretary, who
is the voice and presence of the UK. | 1:34:47 | 1:34:52 | |
It is important that he battles for
Nazanin, and that he clarifies the | 1:34:52 | 1:34:58 | |
parliament. If it goes to trial, it
is important that all this stuff is | 1:34:58 | 1:35:02 | |
nipped in the bud. Michael Gove was
asked about your wife's case | 1:35:02 | 1:35:07 | |
yesterday on the Andrew Marr
programme. I want to play the | 1:35:07 | 1:35:09 | |
relevant clip so the audience know
what we are talking about. | 1:35:09 | 1:35:13 | |
What was she doing when she went to
Iran? I don't know, and one of the | 1:35:13 | 1:35:17 | |
things I want to stress is that
there is no reason why Nazanin | 1:35:17 | 1:35:22 | |
Zaghari-Ratcliffe should beat in
prison in Iran, as far as any of us | 1:35:22 | 1:35:27 | |
know. No evidence has been produced
which suggests she should be | 1:35:27 | 1:35:32 | |
retained -- butane. We know that the
uranium regime is capable of harming | 1:35:32 | 1:35:36 | |
the human rights of its own
citizens, and it appears to be | 1:35:36 | 1:35:38 | |
harming the rights of someone whose
plight necessarily moves us all. Her | 1:35:38 | 1:35:43 | |
husband is clear that she was there
on holiday with her child. In that | 1:35:43 | 1:35:49 | |
case, I take exactly her husband's
assurance in that regard. The | 1:35:49 | 1:35:54 | |
problem with that exchanges that Mr
Gove said he didn't know why your | 1:35:54 | 1:35:57 | |
wife was there. You said you didn't
see that interview live, but members | 1:35:57 | 1:36:01 | |
of your family were pretty cross.
And it was picked up on on social | 1:36:01 | 1:36:06 | |
media with other people responding.
What he says is reasonable and | 1:36:06 | 1:36:11 | |
helpful, it's just the emphatic, I
don't know, at the beginning. And | 1:36:11 | 1:36:15 | |
that he says he will | 1:36:15 | 1:36:26 | |
take my assurances. The Foreign
Secretary has said in Parliament | 1:36:27 | 1:36:29 | |
that the UK Government has no doubt.
Were you surprised? Mr Gove is | 1:36:29 | 1:36:31 | |
usually very precise with his words
and well briefed. So much happened | 1:36:31 | 1:36:35 | |
that there were bigger things. I
spoke to the Foreign Secretary for | 1:36:35 | 1:36:37 | |
the first time in a long time. That
is intimidating. And I had a phone | 1:36:37 | 1:36:43 | |
call with Nazanin where I learned
about what she had gone through. It | 1:36:43 | 1:36:46 | |
was the third biggest thing of the
day. In terms of the conversation | 1:36:46 | 1:36:51 | |
you had with the Foreign Secretary,
did he apologise for his inaccurate | 1:36:51 | 1:36:55 | |
comments to the committee a couple
of weeks ago which could potentially | 1:36:55 | 1:36:58 | |
make your wife's situation, her jail
sentence longer? He said he was | 1:36:58 | 1:37:04 | |
sorry for the suffering and that all
the country was behind her. We | 1:37:04 | 1:37:09 | |
talked about meeting soon, talked
about me going to be run with him | 1:37:09 | 1:37:13 | |
and he said he would look at it
seriously. I asked him to look at | 1:37:13 | 1:37:18 | |
him personally offering her
diplomatic protection, which would | 1:37:18 | 1:37:21 | |
mean that there was much more
protection given to her by the | 1:37:21 | 1:37:24 | |
British Government. Are you
surprised that it has taken this | 1:37:24 | 1:37:28 | |
long for the Foreign Secretary to
pick up the phone to you? I had been | 1:37:28 | 1:37:33 | |
complaining on your show and others
that I want the Government to do | 1:37:33 | 1:37:36 | |
more, and publicly, and that the
foreign office, I have been saying I | 1:37:36 | 1:37:40 | |
think it is important that you do,
and they say it is important that | 1:37:40 | 1:37:44 | |
they don't. It took a gaffe for the
Foreign Secretary to eventually pick | 1:37:44 | 1:37:49 | |
up the phone. His words are being
used by the Iranians, and it is | 1:37:49 | 1:37:54 | |
important he stand up for her, that
I stand alongside him, and that | 1:37:54 | 1:37:58 | |
together we get her as soon as
possible. Let's talk now to our | 1:37:58 | 1:38:04 | |
former Iranians diplomat and
Government minister in Iran's | 1:38:04 | 1:38:07 | |
Foreign Ministry. Thank you for
talking to us. If the Foreign | 1:38:07 | 1:38:10 | |
Secretary could achieve diplomatic
protection status for Mrs | 1:38:10 | 1:38:17 | |
Zaghari-Ratcliffe, what difference
might that make? First of all, I | 1:38:17 | 1:38:25 | |
don't know what diplomatic
protection is, because Nazanin has | 1:38:25 | 1:38:32 | |
dual citizenship, and as far as the
Iranians authorities are concerned, | 1:38:32 | 1:38:38 | |
they do not recognise dual
citizenship, so she entered Iran | 1:38:38 | 1:38:42 | |
probably on her Iranians passport,
and she is being charged as an | 1:38:42 | 1:38:46 | |
Iranians citizen, so I don't see how
British diplomatic protection could | 1:38:46 | 1:38:53 | |
be extended to an Iranians citizen
who is being tried. I think that | 1:38:53 | 1:38:56 | |
this avenue, to me, based on what I
understand, is a nonstarter, and it | 1:38:56 | 1:39:03 | |
is just a matter of voicing some
sympathetic consideration is, and | 1:39:03 | 1:39:09 | |
nothing really more than that. OK,
so what would be your advice to the | 1:39:09 | 1:39:15 | |
Foreign Secretary, then, in trying
to bring Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe home? | 1:39:15 | 1:39:22 | |
Well, I think that, obviously, the
Foreign Secretary's visit to Iran, | 1:39:22 | 1:39:26 | |
the forthcoming visit, his
discussions in Private with the | 1:39:26 | 1:39:32 | |
Iranians Foreign Minister, whom I
have to say that I believe has been | 1:39:32 | 1:39:36 | |
sympathetic to the cause of Nazanin,
is going to help. Inadvertently, the | 1:39:36 | 1:39:47 | |
Iranians regime may want some
consist -- concessions or assistance | 1:39:47 | 1:39:51 | |
from the United Kingdom that they do
not discuss openly. These all can be | 1:39:51 | 1:39:57 | |
discussed privately, and some kind
of arrangement may be able to be | 1:39:57 | 1:40:00 | |
made, but you have to bear in mind
that the Iranians Government, the | 1:40:00 | 1:40:06 | |
Iranians Foreign Ministry, with whom
the Foreign Secretary will be | 1:40:06 | 1:40:08 | |
dealing, they are basically not the
people who are in charge of | 1:40:08 | 1:40:15 | |
incarceration. This is the
judiciary, and the judiciary in Iran | 1:40:15 | 1:40:21 | |
is an adversary of the Government
and the Foreign Ministry. So, | 1:40:21 | 1:40:26 | |
domestic uranium politics, I'm
afraid, has played a significant | 1:40:26 | 1:40:30 | |
role in what has been handed out to
Nazanin, and to the suffering she | 1:40:30 | 1:40:35 | |
has had to endure in the course of
these past months. Are you saying | 1:40:35 | 1:40:39 | |
that the Iranians Government can
have no influence over the | 1:40:39 | 1:40:44 | |
judiciary, irrespective of what the
Foreign Secretary concedes or | 1:40:44 | 1:40:49 | |
negotiates in some sort of deal?
Well, literally, the answer to that | 1:40:49 | 1:40:56 | |
is yes. The Government cannot force
the judiciary to change its verdict. | 1:40:56 | 1:41:04 | |
The judiciary may be persuaded to
make certain concessions in terms | 1:41:04 | 1:41:10 | |
of, you might say, dictates that
come from the supreme leader, from | 1:41:10 | 1:41:16 | |
the hardline elements who can
influence it, and that can only come | 1:41:16 | 1:41:21 | |
on the basis of some kind of deal
being struck behind the scenes in | 1:41:21 | 1:41:27 | |
terms of perhaps doing an exchange
of, I don't know if there are some | 1:41:27 | 1:41:33 | |
Iranians prisoners here, that sort
of thing, or bearing in mind that | 1:41:33 | 1:41:37 | |
there is a great deal of commotion
in the Middle East right now, where | 1:41:37 | 1:41:43 | |
Iran needs diplomatic support if
Iranians positions are supported or | 1:41:43 | 1:41:50 | |
Iranians causes are listened to,
there is a whole variation of | 1:41:50 | 1:41:54 | |
factors. But these are things that
have to be discussed, really, behind | 1:41:54 | 1:41:58 | |
and not in public, and I don't
believe that the highlighting of | 1:41:58 | 1:42:04 | |
this issue in the manner that it has
been done necessarily helps Nazanin | 1:42:04 | 1:42:08 | |
and her case for being sort of let
go. OK. Just so that I am clear, | 1:42:08 | 1:42:16 | |
then, you've said that the
judiciary's independent of the | 1:42:16 | 1:42:22 | |
Government, but you've also
suggested that if the Foreign | 1:42:22 | 1:42:25 | |
Secretary goes there and comes up
with some sort of agreement, perhaps | 1:42:25 | 1:42:28 | |
agreeing to demands from the
Iranians Government, for example, | 1:42:28 | 1:42:31 | |
then that might lead to some sort of
big cat to the judiciary to | 1:42:31 | 1:42:36 | |
potentially release her. -- diktat.
How realistic is that scenario? It | 1:42:36 | 1:42:46 | |
can happen. You have to bear in mind
that the judiciary is an adversary | 1:42:46 | 1:42:50 | |
of the Government and tries to sort
of oppose the Government at every | 1:42:50 | 1:42:54 | |
corner. That cannot be resolved
internally, but with the Foreign | 1:42:54 | 1:42:59 | |
Secretary visiting Iran, there is a
host of different issues that are | 1:42:59 | 1:43:04 | |
being discussed, and a whole series
of issues in which Iran wants the | 1:43:04 | 1:43:08 | |
support of the British Government,
especially in its dealings with in | 1:43:08 | 1:43:12 | |
the region, with Saudi Arabia, with
Syria and someone, so in the context | 1:43:12 | 1:43:18 | |
of our broader picture and a broader
understanding that can come about as | 1:43:18 | 1:43:24 | |
a consequence of discussions that
are held between the Foreign | 1:43:24 | 1:43:28 | |
Secretary and the Iranians Foreign
Minister, the Iranians political | 1:43:28 | 1:43:32 | |
system, headed by this imprint
leader, may want to make certain | 1:43:32 | 1:43:35 | |
concessions in order to try to sort
of help that sort of process, but | 1:43:35 | 1:43:41 | |
again, that is the best way, and
hide profiling this. You have to | 1:43:41 | 1:43:48 | |
bear in mind that the sentence that
was handed out to Mrs | 1:43:48 | 1:43:53 | |
Zaghari-Ratcliffe was done way
before this Foreign Secretary made | 1:43:53 | 1:43:56 | |
any comments, so putting everything
into context, I think that the | 1:43:56 | 1:44:05 | |
forthcoming visit to Iran by the
Foreign Secretary is a good thing. | 1:44:05 | 1:44:08 | |
There is every prospect that
something could be worked out there | 1:44:08 | 1:44:13 | |
that can relieve this poor soul who
has had to suffer so much in the | 1:44:13 | 1:44:17 | |
course of the past year. Thank you
very much for your insight. Really | 1:44:17 | 1:44:20 | |
appreciate it. A former Iranians
diplomat and former minister in | 1:44:20 | 1:44:28 | |
Iran's Foreign Ministry. We are
going to talk about stress. I | 1:44:28 | 1:44:35 | |
appreciate, with reference to that
last conversation, that the stress | 1:44:35 | 1:44:37 | |
that most of us might experience
Wheatley is nothing compared to what | 1:44:37 | 1:44:41 | |
is going on in the Zaghari-Ratcliffe
family right now. Anyway, there is a | 1:44:41 | 1:44:46 | |
lot of stress about and new research
suggest that four in five of us feel | 1:44:46 | 1:44:50 | |
stressed at some point in a typical
week. One in ten of us is stressed | 1:44:50 | 1:44:54 | |
all the time. Our health and
finances are pretty common causes, | 1:44:54 | 1:44:59 | |
but it is thought that work is a
common culprit, with many of us | 1:44:59 | 1:45:04 | |
checking e-mails and taking calls
outside of office hours. How | 1:45:04 | 1:45:07 | |
debilitating cancer be a stress B,
and how can we manage it? -- can | 1:45:07 | 1:45:16 | |
severe stress the | 1:45:16 | 1:45:22 | |
Let's talk now to Dr Philippa Kaye,
a GP in London, the fourth most | 1:45:22 | 1:45:25 | |
the fourth most stress
the | 1:45:25 | 1:45:26 | |
stressed city in the UK. | 1:45:26 | 1:45:28 | |
Leah Steele, who left her dream job
as a lawyer because of the stress | 1:45:28 | 1:45:31 | |
six months ago, and Jessica Carmody,
who says she's always | 1:45:31 | 1:45:33 | |
encountered stress but has now
learnt to manage it. | 1:45:33 | 1:45:41 | |
Welcome, all of you. I'd like to
start with you, if I may, as a | 1:45:41 | 1:45:45 | |
former lawyer, about why you left
your job. I had always experienced a | 1:45:45 | 1:45:55 | |
high level of stress in my job. Par
for the course. You expect that. But | 1:45:55 | 1:46:00 | |
over a course of a number of years
I'd been working more and more | 1:46:00 | 1:46:03 | |
hours. It became quite usual for me
to work than the hours. I've | 1:46:03 | 1:46:08 | |
realised how many people around me
were struggling with the same | 1:46:08 | 1:46:11 | |
problems. So I spent a long time
investigating how I could handle it, | 1:46:11 | 1:46:16 | |
how I could build more resilience,
and are actually decided to leave to | 1:46:16 | 1:46:20 | |
help more women with exactly this
problem. In terms of your job, you | 1:46:20 | 1:46:28 | |
would check your e-mails, I think,
six times a day when you were on | 1:46:28 | 1:46:33 | |
holiday. Yes, I went away on one
holiday and it took me until two | 1:46:33 | 1:46:37 | |
days before I left to stop checking
my e-mail is six times a day, asking | 1:46:37 | 1:46:41 | |
if things had been sorted, trying to
keep on top of everything. Philippa, | 1:46:41 | 1:46:50 | |
you are a GP, do you see more people
coming in with complaints about | 1:46:50 | 1:46:55 | |
stressed? All day everyday about
stress. Some may not even realise | 1:46:55 | 1:47:00 | |
that what their physical complaint
is a sign of stress or worsened by | 1:47:00 | 1:47:04 | |
stress. They might come in with
headaches, jaw pain, IBS, a skin | 1:47:04 | 1:47:10 | |
condition, and when I ask about
stress, they are often very | 1:47:10 | 1:47:15 | |
surprised there can be a physical
component to what is normally a more | 1:47:15 | 1:47:20 | |
emotional state. It's all relative.
It's the juxtaposition with our | 1:47:20 | 1:47:25 | |
previous story, isn't it? There are
grades of stress. Yes, but it isn't | 1:47:25 | 1:47:31 | |
helpful for people to compare with
others. Otherwise everybody who is | 1:47:31 | 1:47:35 | |
depressed would say, I'm not hungry,
so I don't deserve to be stressed, | 1:47:35 | 1:47:39 | |
and that's part of the negative
feeling around that. Your body will | 1:47:39 | 1:47:44 | |
be experiencing the rushes of
adrenaline and cortisol making you | 1:47:44 | 1:47:48 | |
feel a typical way. But I feel like
I understand why we might feel like | 1:47:48 | 1:47:55 | |
that. You say you've always been
somebody who is susceptible to | 1:47:55 | 1:47:59 | |
stress. That's right. Even when I
was in my teens, doing exams, having | 1:47:59 | 1:48:07 | |
lots of pressure, lots of things on
my plate, I suddenly realised that a | 1:48:07 | 1:48:12 | |
number of different pressures would
build up and I found it difficult to | 1:48:12 | 1:48:14 | |
cope with, then I started to feel I
was stressed. How have you managed | 1:48:14 | 1:48:19 | |
it? I have to strike a balance
between having a number of things to | 1:48:19 | 1:48:23 | |
do so that I feel challenged to stop
having too little can make me | 1:48:23 | 1:48:28 | |
stressed, as well as having too
much. I try to strike a balance | 1:48:28 | 1:48:33 | |
between the two. It's not always
easy but that is what I tried to do. | 1:48:33 | 1:48:37 | |
You have a to-do list but it isn't
too long? That's the idea. If I have | 1:48:37 | 1:48:42 | |
just about the right amount of
things to do. Enough social time, | 1:48:42 | 1:48:46 | |
enough work, that's good. I like to
be challenged. But if it starts | 1:48:46 | 1:48:52 | |
getting to too many things to do,
too many things on myself, it gets | 1:48:52 | 1:48:57 | |
too much. At one period in your life
it got so bad that you had to take a | 1:48:57 | 1:49:02 | |
year out from university, didn't
you? I did. How would you describe | 1:49:02 | 1:49:06 | |
that period of your life? It was
very difficult. I was frightened. | 1:49:06 | 1:49:10 | |
What Philippa is saying about the
physical things, that was definitely | 1:49:10 | 1:49:18 | |
there. I felt sick, I had a fever, I
couldn't do a simple thing without | 1:49:18 | 1:49:23 | |
finding it incredibly difficult,
like making a cup of tea. It | 1:49:23 | 1:49:25 | |
wouldn't be something I felt I could
do. I could do it but I didn't feel | 1:49:25 | 1:49:32 | |
like I could, so it was a very scary
time. It took me a long time to come | 1:49:32 | 1:49:36 | |
out of that, that's why I needed the
time off. Let me talk to Lydia. Good | 1:49:36 | 1:49:42 | |
morning. Where are you talking to us
from in the country? I am from | 1:49:42 | 1:49:46 | |
Devon. Thank you for joining us on
the programme. You also had a period | 1:49:46 | 1:49:52 | |
of stress in your life, how did you
learn to manage it? There was one | 1:49:52 | 1:49:58 | |
day I was really bad. I was in bed.
I got my computer out to do things | 1:49:58 | 1:50:03 | |
online and I saw an advert for a
choir. I thought this was my chance, | 1:50:03 | 1:50:07 | |
I love to sing. I signed up for a
session online. I went along. And it | 1:50:07 | 1:50:13 | |
was the best 90 minutes of my life.
I was happy, smiling, with people | 1:50:13 | 1:50:17 | |
there for the same reason. They
didn't know my background, they just | 1:50:17 | 1:50:22 | |
knew me for me. I left with a smile
on my face. For the first time in my | 1:50:22 | 1:50:26 | |
life I was really happy. Seriously?
How old are you, if you don't mind? | 1:50:26 | 1:50:33 | |
I've just turned 21. And that was
the happiest you had been in your | 1:50:33 | 1:50:37 | |
life? Yes. Wow, that makes me feel
sad. As a GP, can you understand why | 1:50:37 | 1:50:47 | |
singing might make somebody feel
happy and help manage stress? | 1:50:47 | 1:50:51 | |
Absolutely. Singing makes you happy.
It releases endorphins. And it's | 1:50:51 | 1:50:56 | |
also about doing something yourself,
prioritising yourself, and saying, I | 1:50:56 | 1:51:00 | |
am worth this. You would treat your
pet, your child, your family members | 1:51:00 | 1:51:07 | |
much kinder than you would treat
yourself. It's about having | 1:51:07 | 1:51:10 | |
compassion for yourself. It's about
saying, this is for me, and | 1:51:10 | 1:51:15 | |
prioritising that. We need to do
that. We need to say, it's 6pm, at | 1:51:15 | 1:51:18 | |
8pm, and my phone is turned off. And
if I miss something, that is a | 1:51:18 | 1:51:25 | |
request by somebody, I'm not
obligated to answer it now. I will | 1:51:25 | 1:51:28 | |
do that tomorrow. Taking that time.
Understanding that Instagram is an | 1:51:28 | 1:51:33 | |
unattainable thing, having those
standards isn't necessarily healthy. | 1:51:33 | 1:51:40 | |
And about getting outside in that
natural light. Exercise if you can. | 1:51:40 | 1:51:46 | |
When you get stressed at work, all
of those hormones are sending blood | 1:51:46 | 1:51:50 | |
to the muscles to run away.
Traditionally to run away from the | 1:51:50 | 1:51:53 | |
sabre-tooth tiger coming along to
kill you. We don't have that now, | 1:51:53 | 1:51:58 | |
obviously, but it means there is not
as much blood in your head, so you | 1:51:58 | 1:52:01 | |
can't make decisions. You can't
concentrate. Break the cycle. Get | 1:52:01 | 1:52:06 | |
out. Do something else, something
for yourself, then come back and you | 1:52:06 | 1:52:11 | |
will work smarter and harder.
Joining a choir, Lydia, having that | 1:52:11 | 1:52:16 | |
hump yourself, releasing those
endorphins has helped you get back | 1:52:16 | 1:52:18 | |
on track, would you say? -- having
that time for yourself. It really | 1:52:18 | 1:52:25 | |
has. Really nice to talk to you. We
had somebody contact us earlier, to | 1:52:25 | 1:52:34 | |
de-stress she lies on her back and
she listens to Ocean music, as she | 1:52:34 | 1:52:39 | |
put it, so, something like this.
MUSIC PLAYS | 1:52:39 | 1:52:44 | |
This does not sound like an ocean to
me? It sounds like what you hear on | 1:52:44 | 1:52:51 | |
Blue Planet. Good suggestion. Do you
find that soothing? I don't think I | 1:52:51 | 1:53:01 | |
would if I was having a panic
attack. But it is nice to listen to. | 1:53:01 | 1:53:05 | |
It is about what works for you.
Something different will work for | 1:53:05 | 1:53:09 | |
different people. I like singing,
painting, running, as you say, find | 1:53:09 | 1:53:17 | |
something that works for you. The
thing about this is, you are lying | 1:53:17 | 1:53:21 | |
on your bed, listening to this, and
you are focusing on your breathing, | 1:53:21 | 1:53:24 | |
the moment, and you are getting out
of your head. That's mindfulness, | 1:53:24 | 1:53:30 | |
isn't it? Yes. It is about being
able to turn off those racing | 1:53:30 | 1:53:34 | |
thoughts. Music can allow people to
do that. That was slow-paced. You | 1:53:34 | 1:53:39 | |
will slow your breathing with it.
Then you will feel more relaxed. | 1:53:39 | 1:53:43 | |
That is probably why it works for
her. OK, thank you, thank you for | 1:53:43 | 1:53:48 | |
coming on the programme. And thank
you, Leah, we appreciate your time. | 1:53:48 | 1:53:55 | |
Next: The earthquake in Iran. At
least 320 people have been killed | 1:53:55 | 1:54:03 | |
when an earthquake hit the Iran-Iraq
border overnight. Thousands more | 1:54:03 | 1:54:07 | |
have been injured. Many left without
shelter. It's one of the largest | 1:54:07 | 1:54:11 | |
earthquakes to hit the region this
year with tremors felt as far away | 1:54:11 | 1:54:15 | |
as Lebanon and Turkey. Local
authorities have warned the death | 1:54:15 | 1:54:18 | |
toll is expected to rise. | 1:54:18 | 1:54:23 | |
We're joined now by BBC
Persian Service Correspondent | 1:54:23 | 1:54:25 | |
Siavash Ardalan. | 1:54:25 | 1:54:26 | |
Thank you for talking to us. Tell us
the latest. In terms of casualties, | 1:54:26 | 1:54:33 | |
we've had over 340 deaths. Close to
4000 injured. The numbers of | 1:54:33 | 1:54:39 | |
casualties are rising fast. You can
get different accounts from news | 1:54:39 | 1:54:45 | |
agencies and social media because
many people are uploading videos of | 1:54:45 | 1:54:50 | |
collapsed buildings. Lots of people
asking for help, saying power has | 1:54:50 | 1:54:53 | |
been cut off, water has been cut
off, saying they are not getting | 1:54:53 | 1:54:57 | |
enough aid. Whereas official sources
are saying that help is being sent. | 1:54:57 | 1:55:02 | |
Iran is a very earthquake ridden
country. But in terms of the scale | 1:55:02 | 1:55:07 | |
of the devastation we still don't
know because many of the remote | 1:55:07 | 1:55:10 | |
areas typically are harder to get
to. Also, independent reporters and | 1:55:10 | 1:55:18 | |
foreign correspondents are not
present in the areas yet. People | 1:55:18 | 1:55:21 | |
have been requesting permission, but
they need official authorisation, so | 1:55:21 | 1:55:29 | |
it might take a few days before we
get more information. Many people | 1:55:29 | 1:55:34 | |
are complaining about the lack of
power and lack of water. Those | 1:55:34 | 1:55:37 | |
things might not be restored for
another 48 hours. The majority of | 1:55:37 | 1:55:45 | |
the casualties happened in a city in
the west of the country. The | 1:55:45 | 1:55:51 | |
hospital there collapsed. It buried
all of the hospital staff underneath | 1:55:51 | 1:55:53 | |
it. That was one of the most
heart-wrenching videos which emerged | 1:55:53 | 1:55:57 | |
after the earthquake, which happened
15 hours ago, 9pm local time. What | 1:55:57 | 1:56:03 | |
are the authority saying about the
rescue operation? They've sent the | 1:56:03 | 1:56:07 | |
commander of the regular army and --
regular army there. The president | 1:56:07 | 1:56:15 | |
doesn't want to go there. He is wary
of creating a distraction. They say | 1:56:15 | 1:56:20 | |
they've deployed all of their
resources to the area. We have heard | 1:56:20 | 1:56:24 | |
of sniffer dogs and success stories
of people being pulled from the | 1:56:24 | 1:56:28 | |
rubble still alive. And it's just
the Iranians helping? There isn't | 1:56:28 | 1:56:32 | |
any help from Iraq? Iraq have their
own casualties. So they are not | 1:56:32 | 1:56:41 | |
working together necessarily? Not
necessarily. But both countries have | 1:56:41 | 1:56:46 | |
been affected. On the Iranians eyed
the casualties are higher. Tellers | 1:56:46 | 1:56:51 | |
about the area that was hit. It is
in the western area of Iran, Kurdish | 1:56:51 | 1:56:56 | |
areas, both on the Iranians and Iraq
side. This has affected particularly | 1:56:56 | 1:57:08 | |
the West. It is the nightmare
scenario for Iranians come it's the | 1:57:08 | 1:57:16 | |
big earthquake they are expecting in
the capital. -- for the Iranians, | 1:57:16 | 1:57:21 | |
it's the big earthquake they are
expecting in the capital. There is | 1:57:21 | 1:57:25 | |
already social outcry on social
media about the lack of observance | 1:57:25 | 1:57:34 | |
to engineering practices. Many
social housing has collapsed. Every | 1:57:34 | 1:57:39 | |
time an earthquake happens there is
cause for enforcement of these | 1:57:39 | 1:57:44 | |
standards but it never seems to
happen. -- there are calls for | 1:57:44 | 1:57:50 | |
enforcement of the standards. For
many people their homes have gone. | 1:57:50 | 1:57:54 | |
There were a lot of after-shocks and
tremors. Officials were asking | 1:57:54 | 1:57:58 | |
people to go out on the streets, not
stay at home because of | 1:57:58 | 1:58:03 | |
after-shocks. But this was happening
in the chill overnight. It was very | 1:58:03 | 1:58:06 | |
cold. Many people did not have time
to get blankets. Many people were | 1:58:06 | 1:58:12 | |
creating fires in the streets to
stand near and keep warm. Thanks | 1:58:12 | 1:58:16 | |
very much. | 1:58:16 | 1:58:20 | |
Thank you for your company today. | 1:58:20 | 1:58:21 | |
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